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super Bowl champion. We got Brady Popinga on the line.
Be Pop, how you living?
Speaker 2: Hey?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 2: Now you don't, buddy, I was going to jump on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, how was the how's the weekend? What did
the pepingas do this weekend?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: What did I do?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 2: I think I took it? Man, I'm on Saturday. Oh yeah.
So what we usually do is I take my daughter
to a training session local kid. It's really good as
they smoke as Quinn and something about it's so Cali
once they get trained by the best, like it's point.
Speaker 4: That's my guy.
Speaker 2: And then so that we always go to an in
and outdate. My daughter and I I've pound two three
by one with a big huge diet coke. And then
after the month we went to a play a my
performance of Wizard of Oz and man, I still have
trauma from that wicked witch. Man, it was still kind
of freaking me out, but all.
Speaker 3: Love it.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: So so your go to every time you go to
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Speaker 3: What is it that? Are you going?
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Speaker 3: Onions? No? Onions? You doing double double no?
Speaker 2: Three by one? So three patties one cheez and I
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big Lars and coke very nice like.
Speaker 3: Like it man, Well, uh got it? I love In
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Speaker 4: I took my two kiddos on a little in and
out Burger date on actually Friday night as my wife
was having a little get together shit dig at the house.
Speaker 3: It was awesome. It was fantastic. Pretty.
Speaker 4: So we're getting into bowl season now, and it's also
transfer portal season.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about the bowl game v Y versus Georgia Tech.
Obviously Notre Dame.
Speaker 4: They say they don't want none, they don't want to
find out, they don't want to mess around and find out.
Speaker 3: They decided essentially eternally.
Speaker 4: Is that the reason why they opted out is because
so many of their key players, their star players, were
going to opt out and just leave for the NFL.
They didn't want to see the smoke. They did want
to get that smoke from BYU and the pop Tars Bowl.
I want to get your reaction to the Notre Dame news.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well that it's a folks of the fact
that they're upset that they didn't get in to the
playoffs and then they just quit. It's so anti competitive.
It doesn't make any sense. If you would tell me,
and I could be in high school, I could be
a tech. I could be a fifth grader playing pick
up at the park. Oh you tell me is hey,
we got a game going on, I'm going to be
that Why because I, hey, love to play and then me,
I know it's gonna make me better, Like that's like
what it's about. And then at this stage it's the
same thing. It's like anything you can do to develop
your team is going to be advantageous because what people
need to realize. And I was talking to Sean Null
the other day, by the way with USC about the
number one recruited class in the country that they had
just earned, and he was telling man, Brady, you should
also look at you know how Kelly is a BA.
People look at this guy like that guy and I'm like, wait,
why don't you guys go after him. He's like, we
don't have any more money, man, It's like we should
pend it on them. And so reality is is money
isn't constraint right now. You can you can still get
the number one, you know, nationally raped recruiting class, but
you still have to be able to find other guys
that could come in and you've got to develop them.
How else are you going to develop your ronster if
they're not playing? And it's like to me, it's like,
that's actually the opportunity that you would jump out if
your order name and you're like, wow, heart star guys,
I'm playing. Well, guess what, that's where our depth's going
to come in. Also, we're gonna be able to see
these other kids that are you know, maybe we paid
them a one year deal to recruit them here. Most
deals are like that from understanding them, pay them to
get them in there, and then it's performance based. What
a better way to go out and see if these
guys are worth worrying about and retaining is a bowl game,
and the lead up to the ball game, you're gonna
see I mean it. It just doesn't make There's no
there's no place where that's a good move. Outside of that,
you're crying and you want to kind of prove a point.
And sure they proved their point. And the reality is
they didn't align themselves with envelopment their teams, they didn't
align themselves with the true competitive spirits, and didn't align
themselves of a of a program that just loves the playings.
Let's say you what, b YU football. They love the
point man, don't play anybody anywhere because they love it.
That's what they're about. Now, is this gonna help you
in the future win championships? I think so. I you
can hear it. It sounds doesn't guarantee us anything, But
I would rather be in a situation where I'm operating
more from Hey, I love to play the game. We
want every opportunity to play. Let's find these opportunities. Versus
on the other side, Well, we didn't get our way, Okay,
let's find an opportunity not to play. I just I
don't know what that looks like that. I don't I
don't get it doesn't make sense to me, and so
what they were doing to me doesn't make really a
lot of sense as to why they would do that
outside of just being criers in emotional and maybe you're right,
maybe they did have I mean, I still think they
have their scars two thousand and four because it was
kind of the bag thing. I really knew they came
in they didn't start their start running back was Ryan Garrett,
he Menuly. Ryan Grant mentioned the came my teammate with
the backers. They sat him out, some other guys out
when they came into promo and we kicked their butts. Man,
they didn't, I mean, they had no answer for us.
It was like we're and you know, our blitzing defensive profits,
like we have to do s blitz from everywhere ready,
Quin didn't know what was coming, you know, and uh,
and then his excuse is always, well, we didn't play
our best players and not like, hey, our secondary doesn't
make your top three. You know, no offense to those guys,
but it's like, don't don't talk about talent. You know,
it's not like we're overflowing with talent at those times.
And so I do believe they were scarred, because that's
why they haven't come back to BYU. They haven't wanted
to come back to Provo. The only way that was
possibly have to play about a contral site game in Vegas,
but they sold fifty five percent of the stadium to
Notre Dame fans. So it's just it's the problem is
I think I mentioned this before. Their mortality and vulnerability
as a program is becoming very clear, and then they
have to adapt. They have to figure this out. I
don't next year they have a deal with the College
Football Playoff or they're guarantee the spot at breaks in
the top twelve. But who's to say you know how
you're gonna do once you get there, you know, especially
if you're not playing a lot of good teams, and
who knows that they're going to be matched up in
a way that they're playing it, you know, like they're
worthy to be there, Who knows. I mean, we've seen
them in a couple championship games over the last twenty years.
They've gotten absolutely destroyed. You know, the last tether the
championsh game against Olabama wasn't even a game of disaster.
So yeah, I just I think if like I said,
I think with them, they they there was a like
the Russian is cut moment they realized they were not
invincible whole seat, and they freaked out. And now they're
trying to figure out what the heck and where did
they sit in this world? And also the Independence Thame
players are rolling it. I heard their ad say that's
who we are. Well, if that's who you are and
you don't get other ads cooperating with you, you're just
not going to have opportunities to really play this big
level football that you're promoting and that you're telling your
kids that you're dreading are not that might not work
for you. So it's I think it's a it's a
recognition of mortality and vulnerability from there.
Speaker 3: At more Nay, Yeah, it's Uh.
Speaker 4: It's a unique, unique college football landscape right now. Do
you want to see the college football playoff expanded? If so,
to how many teams? What structure would you build if
you were the chancellor, the emperor of college football?
Speaker 2: Well, I've fit as many games the wee can fit in.
We take out I take out the championship like the
conference championship games. Yeah, and we would I just fit
as many teams from the last week of the season
that is viable to give you know, maybe the top
four teas a game come just a one week by.
I don't think you guarantee them the spots in the
big games. You just give them a one week by
in as many teams playing as you can, and just
speak after week and just whindles down. And then once
you finally get to what in the final eight, Okay,
there's your there's your Big BCS both or whatever those
games are called. Down, you know, there's your Big Bowl
Game participants, and then they you know, playoff. I can't
do another big game to the championship. So yeah, as
many as you can fit. I'm not sure. I'n't really
fought it. Like the little number. I mean, thirty was great,
you know, twenty five well, but more than mary. I
don't know why we we you know, once, because to me,
it's like, if you have something that's really good, it's
gonna be really good at twelve, it's gonna be really
good at twenty four, proctly really good at sixty. But
I think that's just getting a little too crazy at sixty,
you know. But I think somewhere around twenty five thirty
would be really, really fun because the thing that people
have to realize and I think this year is going
to do that. And I feel this way about UIU
in some ways. It's kind of a kind of mixed
on it. But what you want is wanted an understuted
champion at the end of the day. You know, I
don't want to think back in two thousand and four
like I do, because we've played both USC and Utah,
and I think, man, because you talk the USC, because
I really did the good up. But we'll never know,
right And if I think USC went on voted as
national champions, and guess what, that's a disrespect to them
because I don't even look at them as national champions
from that year. I told Matt Leonard that, you know,
on the radio thing a couple of years ago, he
like was a pall that I'd ever said that you
thought it was better, And like, well, guess what, I'm
an opponent of yours, and I think that that's the
problem because you're not undisputed, Like I don't look at
it like, yeah, you absolutely were the best you can
showed us on the sales. No, I don't know. So
whatever we can do to do that, and again it
was bius kind of like the same thing. It's like,
we don't know. You get very healthy again, you get
him back into the playoffs. You just get into tournament.
You just don't know how things are gonna shake out.
But I kind of don't give him the past because
they had, you know, that opportunity and Harling really pushed
the ticket into the playoffs, not any and song and
they didn't do it. But that's what I will out
of these playoffs. Get that number in there to where
there's never a question as to like, Okay, these guys
are under spirit of chance.
Speaker 4: Brady Popinga on the line Cougar Sports one of three
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some BYU Cougar Football. Would you look at the Pop
Starts Bowl the Georgia Tech. What challenges do they do
they post for this? BYU Cougar Football team, Well, they.
Speaker 2: Got a quarterback who's really good at number ten. He's
a legit dual track guy. Their whole offense is based
off of him. I think Jay said it really nice
and he talks like the very It's like Utah's offense
in a lot of ways. West Virginia, but they have
the talent like Utah. Uh, their offensive line, I think
if Utah's offensive line is you know, ten, their offensive
line to nine. I think they're left. I think their
tackles are really good at the right tackles athletic, the
left tackles athletic insurrans for you or bigger, more kind
of mallered kind of guys. They'll they'll move the best,
but they're they're competitive and they try hard. But it's
all about the quarterback, you know. It's and he's a
decent thrower. He's an anxious throw He wants when he's
in the fogging, want to get the ball out, you know.
Or he runs and then when he runs, he's funny
because he's not this quick, twitchy guy. He's a real
patient weaver. So we'll kind of like probe in a
little spot and then all of a sudden the little
gap opens and then he can accelerate fast enough to
exploit those gaps. But uh, but he's a good player, man.
You have to the key is I disciplined with these
kind of guys are because we got to get safety supports.
You don't get safety the support you're gonna get gashed,
you know, especially on those power runs when you're stealing
everything to the siline, and so our safety eyes have
to get so locked in that they're playing crazy downhill
when it's the power h or any of those point
guards or were spilling to the edges. But at the
same time, they can't get sucked up when any playoff
should pass and get beat over the top because they
have good enough athletes. They don't have I would say,
like a receiver like the TCU that number one, he's
a home run hitter. They have more like guys like
U sef that they're capable. They can beat you if
you're not disciplined. But then at the same time, you know,
if if you're just a little off here, they could,
you know, pomp one on him, and so you gotta
be careful. So it's gonna be a really good challenge
for our guys. I'm excited to have him go down
to Orlando and you know, joining those festivities and get
another opportunity. I think it's gonna be huge for you know,
a lot of these young guys that we've seen grow
that will continue to grow, and it's gonna be huge
for better I hope he can come back playing.
Speaker 5: This is huge in his development to continue to stack weeks,
continue to stack games to UH to help him out
to present his highest ability, and so I'm excited for him.
Speaker 4: Brady Butpinga here on ESBA, the fan discussion of college
Folau BYU football and more. Couple things here regarding recruiting.
BYU just signed a top twenty one class in the
twenty twenty sixth class.
Speaker 3: I was looking at twenty twenty.
Speaker 4: Their class was ranked eightieth, and you look at what
was accomplished from that time to present day.
Speaker 3: They went eleven and one. They then they've been ten
and three.
Speaker 4: Eight and five, five and five and seven and then
back to back eleven and two seasons with you know,
you look at BYU's timeline.
Speaker 3: Typically it takes you know, three four five years in
order to.
Speaker 4: I guess, reach a peak with a recruiting class, eightieth
ranked recruiting class, and I was looking at who was
in that class? Body scoonover, Who's trending in a great direction?
John Nelson was another highlight. Soone MOA was like the
lowest ranked player in that class, pretty crazy. Cody Epps
was a part of that class. But then I get
you know, twenty twenty six I'm like, this is the
twenty first ranked class. Ryder Lions, Bot Mulatalo, Brock Harris,
Adam Bywater, Tygetchi, Jeron Pula, Lopetti, Mwala Kennon Pula, Jack's Tanner,
Terrence Seri, and Braxton Lindsay Kawea Conna. I don't know
if you know all these guys Legend, glasger Mace and
Matthew Mason. Anyway, Uh, do you any thoughts on the
twenty twenty sixth class and what this means for BA
football and do you have any favorites in this class?
Speaker 2: Well? I tend to not get too excited about it
because if you come back to my class and wasn't
very highly talented, but I'd say probably ended up being,
you know, the best college and pro player out of
that whole group of guys that recruited ninety eight. But uh,
I don't really get caught up in it.
Speaker 3: But I do know who else is in your class?
Who else was in your class? Do you remember?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Reno Mahey, Dustin Reiker, I think was in
that This is class guys that were just when they signed,
Guys that never showed up. It was kind of fascinating.
I don't think they could ever qualify. So anyway, another
you know, another era where we're trying to figuring things out.
But no, what I love about like this last year especially,
I remember walking into training camp in August, first part there,
and I was really impressed with the talent level. You know,
I just like this is and I saw I've never
seen this much talent on tood even I said on
the radio many times in a BYU uniforms, you know,
And I think what we saw in twenty twenty four
was a typical BYU team where you had some dang
good players sprinkled in there and then you just had
some really good, tough football kids that played a lot
better than their rob The ability now I believe, and
this is I think with Clonnie and Kelly and Jay
and all these guys did really well on the staff
is they can take talent and they can they can
maximize that, they can really magnify it. And so they
and they know also how to continue to work the
same you know foundation of BAU football, which is scrappy,
competitive kids that love to play the game. LOVEDYU and
now if you mixed out with raw talent, you could
beat anybody in the country any give a week. And
I think that's where we're at. Quite frankly, I do
believe that now, can we improve on our skilled position
players and find some more home run hitters. Absolutely, can
we do the same, you know on the defensive front,
you know, find some guys to replace Isaiah and Jack.
I think we can and so and that's that's hard
to do here and in year out, you know, but
I see this as a really exciting time because you're
getting raw talent combined with that scrappy, tough play with passion,
humble yu kid. That's a real, real potent combination and that,
like I said, will always keep them in contention as
long as they have decent and really functional quarterback play
year in and year out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that take.
Speaker 4: And right now, you know, the quarterback room is fantastic.
Like Bert Bockmeyer, you have, you know, some experience with
Trason and McKay Hillstead. I wonder, you know, Emerson Golement's
probably gonna go on a mission. I really liked Emerson Goleman.
By the way, I wish I wish he was a
return missionary, right now, any thoughts on Emerson. Have you
seen him at all in practice, scout team or otherwise?
Speaker 2: Has he been playing? Is he number ten? I don't
know what his number is a scout team. He's probably
number ten this week because we're comparing preparing for during
his deck. But I mean there's I don't know his name,
but there's a dude. He's long, he could run and
he could yet fit that he reminds me Ben Olsen.
Speaker 4: Number sixteen. Yeah, he's six four to two oh seven.
He's the product at a boutiful high school's number sixteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really, yeah, he's been very impressive against our
our defense and yeah, and so I like him a lot.
You know, I think there's as we continue to progress
and guys don't get kicked out, you know, because because
like I said last you know, we played in the
Texas Tech and with Beard rolling up on his ankle,
getting his ankle rolled up, that was the only time
where really the quarterback death threw us, you know, this
whole year, and it wasn't it wasn't about design, right,
It's not like they didn't recruit enough. We had, I
mean we were loaded, you know with Jake and then there.
You couldn't ask for two better start, you know, top
two quarterbacks, and then obviously those situations with Jake, so uh,
I see that happening again, and it's gonna be a
lot of good internal competition. And then as long as
that stays true and you keep that solid quarterback play,
you know, we keep getting offensive linemen and tough runners,
you know, because I think LJ is probably gonna go
to the NFL. I was invising him. I would, so
we're you know, we're gonna be looking for another tough
between the tackles, pile driver basically that you can just
lean on to really physically pound a team and pulverize them.
But uh, and I think we'll find somebody. But yeah,
I mean, this is this is what the Klonie does.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: If you if you remember back to his I think
it was his first press conference, you know, they're kind
of doing the you know what do they call that
dog and pony show, and he kept saying, you know,
I just want to get to recruiting because that's what
I love and that's and I think you approve of that,
Like this is what he does, you know. And then
he's taught his guys to do the same. And you know,
Jay and I keep you on bringing jail because I
think they're cut from the same cloth, you know, Kelly,
they these guys Justin and the whole crew. They they're
extra recruiters, you know. And and then they also have
a really good, uh program to sell. You know, you're
not selling these guys anymore on hopes and dreams. And
you know, playing time like he could you know, used
to be like, hey, you come here at BA and
immediately play. Now it's hey, you're gonna come and you're
gonna play. This is top most football prepared to play
in the other Oh, it's gonna be done in an enjoyable,
exciting way. And then you got this BUYU fan base
that you know what you have, you have some good years,
You're you're gonna become legendary. You know that. That's that's
very very pillic. So anyway, it's exciting.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 2: I think that, like I said, I think that's a
weren't a good place. And I think that draft or
the draft class I called the draft class, that uh,
that recruiting class is an example.
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from Cranonco on the Daily Wire. What's up, Jake, how
thatck are you?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: It's it's an amazing time of year when you look
at the sports calendar. College basketball is heating up. I know,
look BYU. It's funny everybody keeps waiting on the government
to say whether aliens are real. I'm watching one play
for BYU every single time they take the court. But now, man,
we got the NFL coming down to it. Just an
amazing time of year to be a sports fan.
Speaker 4: Hey, what's been keeping you busy this past week? As
it relates to the college football world. What have you
guys been delving into a craning coke?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean it's typically it's my eleven month
old that keeps me busy, But now this, you know,
obviously there's a lot that's been going on. When you
look at on the field, who made the twelfth team playoff?
You look at the craziness of the coaching cycle, not
just you know, Sharon Moore losing his mind. But now
it seems like we've added another layer finding out that
DJ Lagway, Dylan Ryola, even Brendan Soresby from Cincinnati, who
I think is probably going to be sneaky in the portal.
It's college football is just an ever changing drama, and
it seems like it's it's to the tenth degree or
in degree or whatever at this point in time. So
there's no shortage of content, that's for sure.
Speaker 4: How would you have vowed you wait the coaching carousel
and how everything's played out over the last month or so.
Speaker 1: Well, Look, I mean, when you have this many big
time jobs that are open within the same cycle, typically
there isn't enough supply for the demand. But I mean,
I look at some of the hires made across the board,
and starting with John Sumrall at Florida. You know, I'm
from Auburn originally, and he was the number one guy
that I wanted to get once they fired Hugh Freeze.
But I thought the goali Ish hire, just from an
identity and personality standpoint, was really good. But it's hard
to sit here and not think of the absolute transformer
that got built with Lane Kiffen going to LSU, And
if they get Sam Levitt out of the portal, it's
going to be nightmare fuel for everybody else when you
put those two guys together. So Lane going to LSU,
even though Lane doesn't have a championship, and I understand
that it's hard not to look at that marriage and
at least feel like that's probably the best marriage Lane
Kiff has ever been a part of. And we'll see
how long it lasts outside of that, you know, I
think that Eric Mores hired at Oklahoma State, it's going
to end up being a really good when. He's a
guy that really knows how to evaluate quarterbacks. But I
think there's been some pretty good high even Penn State,
who looked like they were lost in the wilderness are like,
you know, a kid wandering around Walmart.
Speaker 3: Trying to find his parents.
Speaker 1: They end up landing on Matt Campbell, who I think
is a little bit overrated, But given the circumstance of
what happened when it happened at Penn State, I think
ending up with Matt Campbell is probably about the best
case scenario. So I think there's been a lot of
really good hires this offseason. Then you've had people that
have decided to stay put. You look at Drinkawa, It's
at Missouri, you look at Kilanie Sataki at Vyu. So
I think it's been a good mix and it's been
a good cycle overall for pretty much everybody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, who do you think has won the coaching carousel
this cycle?
Speaker 4: Is there anybody that you're like, you know what, this
is going to have the best ROI I think low
key the Matt Campbell hire, with the unlimited resources that
Penn State has, is going to be a really good hier.
I think he actually fits the brand, and also the
recruiting base and his tentacles where he's recruited, how he's
recruited over the years, the staff that he's going to
bring along with him. I actually think that's a low key,
probably one of the best rois in college football. Matt
Campbell brought Iowa State back up from the depths. It's
not a Curt Signetti.
Speaker 3: Story, but it's pretty good. It's kind of that lower
tier of that I thought.
Speaker 4: I thought Kansas State, what they did over the years
with Chris Clemban was kind of similar to what Matt
Campbell had been doing as well. But Matt Campbell's young,
vibrant has a lot of pomp and circumstance around, a
lot of vigoran vim in them.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, Yeah, look, I think Matt's going to
do fine at Penn State. The question is is fine
obviously isn't good enough, right, He's gonna have to He's
gonna have to win a championship of some type. I
think probably the first three to forty years to really
feel good about that ROI. But if we're gonna stick
just to ro O I, I don't know how you
don't look at Virginia Tech, Virginia Tech getting James Franklin
and saying, maybe James Franklin's not the best coach that
was in this cycle, but I feel like he's the
best person that Virginia Tech could have possibly gotten, And
only this crazy circumstance could have led to James Franklin
going to Virginia Tech. Because I'm gonna be honest with you,
But when Mike Norvell looked like he was going to
get fired, it looked like James Franklin was holding out
for FIDA state. That doesn't happen, and then all of
a sudden, James Franklin ends up going to Virginia Tech.
And you look at the money that is already pouring
in this Virginia Tech program right now, they are all in.
So I think Virginia Tech, if we're going to look
at who punched above their weight or you know who
brought home the nine when they're at when they're a six,
it feels like Virginia Tech.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a great analysis. We've got Jay Crane,
Crane and co Daily Wire here on esp and the
Fan discussing the college football coaching.
Speaker 3: Carousel and more. B YU was left out.
Speaker 4: Look, if you or you look over the last two
seasons going to eleven and two, eleven and two, they
had a better resume. I think that Miami had a
better resume than Notre Dame had a Betzer resume. Maybe
even then Alabama or Oklahoma. They were ultimately left out
because they just got beat up too badly versus the
number four team in the country. And I think what
they do is they evaluate that They're like, well, they're
not gonna win the college football playoffs.
Speaker 3: We're just gonna leave them out. Right, give me your
analysis on.
Speaker 4: The BYU Cougar football team over the last two years
and why they've been on the outside looking into the
playoffs even though they're in a resume look pretty good.
They have some good cachet built up over the last
fifty years of winning at a high level as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, if you're sitting here saying, well, if b
YU can't win the national championship, why put him in?
And then you put in James Madison in two lane?
Then I could I got some beachfront property in Kansas.
I could sell you for a price that will blow
your mind. Look. BYU fans have a right to be upset.
They have more of a right to be upset this
year than last year. But you know that's obvious. Any
BYU fan listening to this is going to think that
they got, you know, the short end of the state.
Speaker 3: And they did.
Speaker 1: But I think a lot of BYU fans are getting
mad at the wrong people. The people that you should
be mad at is the way that we set up
this system that gives away automatic bids. You can't have
meritocracy and automatic bids at the same time. It just
doesn't work like that. And the fact that we have
two group of five teams in a twelve team playoff
when an eleven and one BYU, A ten and two
Notre Dame, A ten and two Vandy got left out
is an absolute joke and it makes it unseious. What
we should do is it should be a fourteen team
should make the postseason the top ten, and I've got
a formula for how to pick them, and it involves
a much better committee than we have right now. The
top ten are already in the tournament. We need a
play in game between the eleven and fourteen seed and
the twelve and the thirteen. Imagine being able to have
a game where BYU is playing Notre Dame, or BYU
is playing Vandy, and then Texas is playing Miami, or
are just any mix of that, and you do it
the week after the conference championship games are played, because
some teams may have to play both the way it
works out, and by you would have been an example
of that, having to play the conference championship and then
a playing game the next weekend, which I'm sure they
would not have been upset about. And the two teams
that win that become the eleven and twelve seed, and
we run our tournament out the way that we run
it with the twelve. But we don't do that because
we're stupid. And the greatest sport that God has ever
given us, and the greatest way to play that sport,
which is college, the way we pick the teams to
make the most important area of said sport is an
absolute joke and it's a disaster. And until we fix that,
all the other stuff to me is meaningless.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So then on those playing games.
Speaker 4: So we take the Allible Bowl, the Poptarch Bowl, the
Citrus Bowl, I don't know, the Sun Bowl, and those
become the playing games.
Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying to get for the it'd
be two games.
Speaker 1: It would be two games, so you could call them whatever,
while you could call them a blind hippopotamus.
Speaker 3: I don't care, can we?
Speaker 4: I'm saying you want a corporate American involved or to
be able to get there do as well?
Speaker 3: Right, you've got to have some bowl games? Right?
Speaker 1: What do you think whatever gets us whatever? You can
put whatever name on you want, who wants to pay
the most money this that or the other. But what
we also need to do, because the ball system's cooked.
Let's be honest, it's been cooked ever since we started
having these opt outs. What we need to do is
have another twelve team tournament that is set up almost
like an n T For the teams that don't make it.
You can keep all those yeah, but what's the goal?
Speaker 3: Pragmatically, do you think that's gonna happen?
Speaker 4: What's the easiest thing that makes every like most people happy,
because they're still going to be angry people with the
big brands, the presure, big hitters, Like, what's the easiest
thing to do?
Speaker 3: Do you think?
Speaker 1: Well, you attach nil money to it, the nit part
of it, and that incentivizes not only the schools but
the players. We just saw that in college basketball with
the players. There are our new era tournament whatever out
in Vegas where you can win in il money. There's
got to be some incentive nowadays, and you'll still have
guys that opt out that are going to be first
round picks and stuff like that. And to me, I
understand that if you're not playing in the main one.
But we have way too many bowls right now. We
need to have another twelve teen tournament that is a
kind of a consolation tournament with nil incentive and more people.
Can you imagine how much more money you could make
if you did it that way, because that look, it's
a business. Just like college. You think they want to
teach you, No, they want you to give them money
and then they'll teach you. You can pick a stupid
degree and they don't care. It's a business. That's what
this is at the end of the day. But I
think we can have a marriage between common sense, meritocracy,
the bowl system, and a smart business sense, and.
Speaker 3: We just don't do it.
Speaker 1: And it's easy to tell why when you see who
you know. We have this leadership void at the top
of the sport, and then we have a committee full
of people that are literally tied into institutions currently that
are paying them. We saw an NCAA basketball tournament. If
Bubba Cunningham, what in the head of the selection committee
in College of Basketball North Carolina ain't getting in, I
can promise you that. So it's just like everything that's
a business, there's some corruption in it. But I do
feel like we could have a solid marriage if they'll
just listen to people that love the sport and know
what they're talking about and are getting paid by a
certain institution.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Noreadad probably plays in let's say it is the
Pop Tarts Bowl this week.
Speaker 3: If it's a playing game right.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent without a Marcus Freeman then would crawl
up there backwards to play in that game. And then
you get a chance to go approve everybody wrong. And
I think Colonie Sataki would would do the same thing. Heck,
crk Lee from Vanderbilt was trying to schedule a thirteen
game to be able to play. So without a doubt,
those teams would play and it would get really great viewership,
It would make a lot of money, and I just
don't understand why we don't do it.
Speaker 3: How would you?
Speaker 4: I've been kind of I was going through, like how
I would compartmentalize college football this season? Your elite teams,
your great teams, your very good teams, your good teams,
you're above average teams, and then average teams. Right, I
think the top definitely, the top four teams are lead
right one seeds uh, and the jury still out on
whether or not Oregan's an elite team. I give them
the elite stats, so like one through five to me
is elite six through like about sixteen.
Speaker 3: I think they're all pretty compared.
Speaker 4: Those are very good to Those are great teams, right,
I think they're great football teams. You're gonna see a
lot of like, uh, parody between those teams. You see
a lot of two loss maybe even three loss teams
there that can compete there. But they're probably they're more
often than not, they're gonna lose to the elite teams, right,
depending on neutral home away situations. And then I think
you get into like seventeen through maybe thirty that you
can say those are your good teams, very good teams, right,
and then you get into above average and into average,
which are your Bowl eligible teams at like six and six,
five and seven. How would you compartmentalize it and would
you agree with that? Maybe that breakdown that I just gave.
Speaker 1: You, Yeah, I think again it's it's the prison which
through you've you know, you view it through. Do I
think there is an elite eight team just overall that
this team when you look at all three phases is
elite like we used to see the Bama teams and
some of the Georgia teams and some others in the past.
Ohio State, I don't know if we have an elite
full team in all three phases. I think we have
teams that have elite sides of the ball, like Ohio
States defense is an elite side of the ball, and
they're really good on offense. But I don't know if
we have an absolute elite team the way we've had
in the past. Now, when you look at the scope
of who we have this year. Yes, you feel like
Ohio State's roster is as good as anybody's up there.
But I'm gonna tell you the teams that will go
the farthest. And this is always how it is, whether
it's football, basketball, or baseball. When you look at a
sudden death style tournament, it is the teams that can
win the most ways, and it are that it is
the teams that are the closest to balance. That's why
to me, you look at a team like Texas A
and M. Texas A and M can win a game
fifty to forty nine or ten to nine. You look
at a team like Indiana, who may not be elite
on either side of the ball, but they're just pretty
dagnam good on each side and they play complimentary football.
You look at a team like Texas Tech, elite on defense,
questionable on offense. I've got a lot of questions about
Morton when it comes down to playing against an elite defense,
like he's going to run into Oregon. I think is
scary because they basically got a bunch of twelve year
olds that don't realize they're not supposed to be this
good yet, but they're really talented and Dan Lanning can
motivate better than Napoleon or a bunch of people we've
seen in the past. Oklahoma, again, elite defense right offense
has had a lot of problems, So I don't know
if we have a categorically three phase elite team, which
to me makes it more fun. I don't want to
know the end of the movie right when I go
watch the beginning of it. And I feel like we've
had that in college football a lot in the last
ten to fifteen years. But this season we did our
pick them show today, the full college football playoff who
we have win it and stuff like that, and I'm
gonna be honest, it was harder this year than it's
been any year in the past.
Speaker 3: Who'd you pick if you don't? Or is that to
a tease kind of wait, wait and see time?
Speaker 1: Here we go. I won't tell you who I picked.
You can. You can go to Cranting Company. It's out
now on YouTube. But I'll tell you this.
Speaker 3: I've got a.
Speaker 1: Seed above a seven making the National Championship game.
Speaker 2: So I'll leave you with that.
Speaker 3: I like that, very hot, very fiery.
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, Okay, so like, for how
long would you say, how many years now has the
SEC and the Big Ten dominated college football?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: They built up cachet equity, right, NFL production resources, infrastructure,
TV money, all these things, Like how long have they
been the two dominant conferences?
Speaker 3: Would you say in college football?
Speaker 1: Well, if you're going to use both of them and
not just use one of them before.
Speaker 5: Would you?
Speaker 4: Would you just say SEC is and so would you
just would you split those up and say SEC is
different than the Big Ten?
Speaker 3: Are they on each you know?
Speaker 1: I would say I would say this, I think the
Big Ten at the top has a better team overall
than the SEC, but I think from top to bottom
the SEC is better. But you're right, the Big Ten
in the SEC. You know, if you want to put
both of them together compared to the Big twelve in
the ACC, they have been better. And I know a
lot of Big twelve fans will be like, oh, well,
you're just an an elitist. No, I promise you I'm
not the same when it said be why you should
have been in the playoffs. But I'm not going to
cover my eyes and just pretend like everybody's equal because
they're not. I would say, man, I'm gonna be honest
with you, I think for going on almost twenty years,
and you know, I'm thirty six years old, so you know,
some people may want to go further than that, but
I would say the better part of two decades.
Speaker 3: Okay, so two decades.
Speaker 4: Let's say that that's the baseline, and we lean into
these brands and this equity that has been built over
the last two decades and maybe even more than that
twenty five years, to what can we attribute most of
that brand equity to?
Speaker 3: And like this power structure right.
Speaker 4: When we're talking about strength of record, strength to schedule,
and the SEC and Big Ten are like going to
like nine conference games, right, my concern is to.
Speaker 3: What do we give that equity to?
Speaker 4: What were these two conferences cheating circumventing the former NC
double A rules, as coach Ortaron mentioned, in order to
build up that equity, And so you're you're you're giving
them I guess, like, you know, if that is the case,
if it was done through cheating and they're trying to
create this cabal cartel keeping like leverage over the rest
of the world, it's like, wait, no, you cheated your
way into that equity, and now there's parody which you
bring up in your elite to very good great.
Speaker 3: College football rankings. Does that make sense? That's my concern
right now in college football.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I kind of got a special attachment
to this because I coached Division one football for almost
a decade and I was at a group of five
for five years, and you know, we paid guys, so
I you know, I'm not saying everybody paid, but there
is much.
Speaker 3: Of that equity was built through cheating.
Speaker 1: God, I mean, I would say over half, I would think.
Now again, yeah, but you know, at the end of
the day, if everybody pretty much everybody's cheating, if.
Speaker 4: You're that not everyone was allowed to cheat, though not
everyone was allowed to cheat, allow.
Speaker 3: Allowed to cheat.
Speaker 4: Texas and Oklahoma were allowed to cheat sometimes us She
was allowed to cheat. But even they got Reggie Bush
got reprimanded, right, Reggie Bushyama got reprimanded.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well that's what I'm saying is like, when were
they actually reprimanding, castigating and holding them accountable, right, and
more often than not, they looked the other way and
no one was being investigated and everyone was they were
they were built. I mean, what was the last team
to win a National Championship on like the West Coast.
I think it was USC right, Texas can't even win
one year, right, it's always been over the last twenty
thirty years, it's been SEC Big ten. And you wonder,
leaning on what coach O said, right, n Il, He's like, oh,
now they just they go through the front, going around
than the back door. Right when you heard that sound bite,
they're cheating, man, it's ludicrous. And now they're going to
nine conference games and they're like, well, we're the best conference,
we produce the NFL, we have all the resources.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you cheated.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I will say I do think that the
recruiting ground is a lot more fertile when you get
to certain areas of the country. But I'm not going
to hear and pretend like people weren't paying people. I
know again was part of it, but I think it's
a common misconception that it was only a certain amount
of teams and there's other ways to pay people. The
amount of jobs that parents got of players at places
is crazy. So look, at the end of the day,
it's like holding on the offensive line. If you ain't cheating,
you ain't trying. I mean, it's just when everybody else is.
I mean, we can sit here and complain about it,
but I mean again, when you look at viewership, you
look at at stadium size, you look at the money
that's pumped into it, a lot of times people wouldn't
get punished because they make a lot of money for
the sport. And you can like that, you cannot like it.
That's why I love that now everybody can get paid, right,
And to be honest with you, it actually for the
top tier players they lost money because if you took
five official visits and got one hundred thousand from each
school you went to, and you didn't go to their school,
well they couldn't call the NCAA or the cops and
be like, well this guy is one hundred grand. You
just got to pocket it. So yeah, look, I agree
with you. The SEC paid sies, the Big ten paid guys,
A lot of people paid guys. It's just the nature
of the beats. But now we got a little bit
better system. It's not great because they let it out
win no rules, but it is better than what we had.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they don't want those cross conference data points anymore.
That's the thing.
Speaker 4: They don't want those They don't want those, and they're
going to just leverage that brand ad cond you over
the last thirty years they built.
Speaker 1: Through, Right, you think a lot of that has to
do with the playoffs, Like I think a lot of
that has to do with the playoff and the expansion
of the playoff. I mean, look, you had.
Speaker 4: Five teams in the SEC. Five teams in the SEC
this year built off their brands.
Speaker 1: But there's two group of fives. Like again, there's two
group of fives. It's hard to argue on one hand
when you let two of the little guys in last
year Boiseing State was the top four team.
Speaker 3: You gotta buy.
Speaker 1: I watched Cincinnati make a four team playoff, like I'm
sick of the oh the little guy never catches or
break it's a big, bad SEC. I'm watching James Madison
in Tulane make a twelve team playoff in college football.
Speaker 2: So I wont christ here as over that, no doubt.
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Speaker 4: No doubt about it. Hey, appreciate you, Jake. Always a pleasure,
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