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out to the hotline. Welcome in former b YU great

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super Bowl champion. We got Brady Popinga on the line.

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Be Pop, how you living?

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Speaker 2: Hey?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 2: Now you don't, buddy, I was going to jump on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, how was the how's the weekend? What did

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the pepingas do this weekend?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: What did I do?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 2: I think I took it? Man, I'm on Saturday. Oh yeah.

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So what we usually do is I take my daughter

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to a training session local kid. It's really good as

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they smoke as Quinn and something about it's so Cali

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once they get trained by the best, like it's point.

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Speaker 4: That's my guy.

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Speaker 2: And then so that we always go to an in

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and outdate. My daughter and I I've pound two three

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by one with a big huge diet coke. And then

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after the month we went to a play a my

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performance of Wizard of Oz and man, I still have

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trauma from that wicked witch. Man, it was still kind

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of freaking me out, but all.

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Speaker 3: Love it.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 4: So so your go to every time you go to

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In and Out? What's the order again? Give me break

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it down?

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Speaker 3: What is it that? Are you going?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 3: Onions? No? Onions? You doing double double no?

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Speaker 2: Three by one? So three patties one cheez and I

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and I do this and I do the bud on

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that day because I'm car bloating. And then I get

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big Lars and coke very nice like.

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Speaker 3: Like it man, Well, uh got it? I love In

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and Out Burger.

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Speaker 4: I took my two kiddos on a little in and

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out Burger date on actually Friday night as my wife

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was having a little get together shit dig at the house.

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Speaker 3: It was awesome. It was fantastic. Pretty.

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Speaker 4: So we're getting into bowl season now, and it's also

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transfer portal season.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about the bowl game v Y versus Georgia Tech.

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Obviously Notre Dame.

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Speaker 4: They say they don't want none, they don't want to

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find out, they don't want to mess around and find out.

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Speaker 3: They decided essentially eternally.

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Speaker 4: Is that the reason why they opted out is because

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so many of their key players, their star players, were

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going to opt out and just leave for the NFL.

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They didn't want to see the smoke. They did want

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to get that smoke from BYU and the pop Tars Bowl.

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I want to get your reaction to the Notre Dame news.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well that it's a folks of the fact

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that they're upset that they didn't get in to the

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playoffs and then they just quit. It's so anti competitive.

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and I could be in high school, I could be

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a tech. I could be a fifth grader playing pick

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up at the park. Oh you tell me is hey,

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we got a game going on, I'm going to be

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that Why because I, hey, love to play and then me,

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I know it's gonna make me better, Like that's like

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what it's about. And then at this stage it's the

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same thing. It's like anything you can do to develop

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your team is going to be advantageous because what people

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need to realize. And I was talking to Sean Null

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the other day, by the way with USC about the

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number one recruited class in the country that they had

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just earned, and he was telling man, Brady, you should

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also look at you know how Kelly is a BA.

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People look at this guy like that guy and I'm like, wait,

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why don't you guys go after him. He's like, we

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don't have any more money, man, It's like we should

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pend it on them. And so reality is is money

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isn't constraint right now. You can you can still get

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the number one, you know, nationally raped recruiting class, but

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you still have to be able to find other guys

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that could come in and you've got to develop them.

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they're not playing? And it's like to me, it's like,

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that's actually the opportunity that you would jump out if

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your order name and you're like, wow, heart star guys,

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I'm playing. Well, guess what, that's where our depth's going

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to come in. Also, we're gonna be able to see

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these other kids that are you know, maybe we paid

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them a one year deal to recruit them here. Most

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deals are like that from understanding them, pay them to

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get them in there, and then it's performance based. What

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a better way to go out and see if these

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guys are worth worrying about and retaining is a bowl game,

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and the lead up to the ball game, you're gonna

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see I mean it. It just doesn't make There's no

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there's no place where that's a good move. Outside of that,

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you're crying and you want to kind of prove a point.

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And sure they proved their point. And the reality is

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they didn't align themselves with envelopment their teams, they didn't

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align themselves with the true competitive spirits, and didn't align

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themselves of a of a program that just loves the playings.

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Let's say you what, b YU football. They love the

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point man, don't play anybody anywhere because they love it.

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That's what they're about. Now, is this gonna help you

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in the future win championships? I think so. I you

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can hear it. It sounds doesn't guarantee us anything, But

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I would rather be in a situation where I'm operating

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more from Hey, I love to play the game. We

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want every opportunity to play. Let's find these opportunities. Versus

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on the other side, Well, we didn't get our way, Okay,

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let's find an opportunity not to play. I just I

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don't know what that looks like that. I don't I

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don't get it doesn't make sense to me, and so

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what they were doing to me doesn't make really a

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lot of sense as to why they would do that

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outside of just being criers in emotional and maybe you're right,

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maybe they did have I mean, I still think they

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have their scars two thousand and four because it was

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kind of the bag thing. I really knew they came

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in they didn't start their start running back was Ryan Garrett,

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he Menuly. Ryan Grant mentioned the came my teammate with

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the backers. They sat him out, some other guys out

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when they came into promo and we kicked their butts. Man,

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they didn't, I mean, they had no answer for us.

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like we have to do s blitz from everywhere ready,

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Quin didn't know what was coming, you know, and uh,

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and then his excuse is always, well, we didn't play

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our best players and not like, hey, our secondary doesn't

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make your top three. You know, no offense to those guys,

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but it's like, don't don't talk about talent. You know,

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it's not like we're overflowing with talent at those times.

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And so I do believe they were scarred, because that's

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why they haven't come back to BYU. They haven't wanted

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to come back to Provo. The only way that was

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possibly have to play about a contral site game in Vegas,

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but they sold fifty five percent of the stadium to

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Notre Dame fans. So it's just it's the problem is

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I think I mentioned this before. Their mortality and vulnerability

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as a program is becoming very clear, and then they

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have to adapt. They have to figure this out. I

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don't next year they have a deal with the College

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Football Playoff or they're guarantee the spot at breaks in

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the top twelve. But who's to say you know how

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you're gonna do once you get there, you know, especially

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if you're not playing a lot of good teams, and

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who knows that they're going to be matched up in

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a way that they're playing it, you know, like they're

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worthy to be there, Who knows. I mean, we've seen

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them in a couple championship games over the last twenty years.

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They've gotten absolutely destroyed. You know, the last tether the

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championsh game against Olabama wasn't even a game of disaster.

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So yeah, I just I think if like I said,

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I think with them, they they there was a like

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the Russian is cut moment they realized they were not

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invincible whole seat, and they freaked out. And now they're

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trying to figure out what the heck and where did

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they sit in this world? And also the Independence Thame

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players are rolling it. I heard their ad say that's

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who we are. Well, if that's who you are and

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you don't get other ads cooperating with you, you're just

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not going to have opportunities to really play this big

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level football that you're promoting and that you're telling your

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kids that you're dreading are not that might not work

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for you. So it's I think it's a it's a

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recognition of mortality and vulnerability from there.

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Speaker 3: At more Nay, Yeah, it's Uh.

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Speaker 4: It's a unique, unique college football landscape right now. Do

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you want to see the college football playoff expanded? If so,

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to how many teams? What structure would you build if

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you were the chancellor, the emperor of college football?

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Speaker 2: Well, I've fit as many games the wee can fit in.

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We take out I take out the championship like the

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conference championship games. Yeah, and we would I just fit

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as many teams from the last week of the season

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that is viable to give you know, maybe the top

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four teas a game come just a one week by.

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I don't think you guarantee them the spots in the

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big games. You just give them a one week by

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in as many teams playing as you can, and just

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speak after week and just whindles down. And then once

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you finally get to what in the final eight, Okay,

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there's your there's your Big BCS both or whatever those

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games are called. Down, you know, there's your Big Bowl

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Game participants, and then they you know, playoff. I can't

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do another big game to the championship. So yeah, as

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many as you can fit. I'm not sure. I'n't really

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fought it. Like the little number. I mean, thirty was great,

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you know, twenty five well, but more than mary. I

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don't know why we we you know, once, because to me,

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it's like, if you have something that's really good, it's

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gonna be really good at twelve, it's gonna be really

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good at twenty four, proctly really good at sixty. But

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I think that's just getting a little too crazy at sixty,

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you know. But I think somewhere around twenty five thirty

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would be really, really fun because the thing that people

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have to realize and I think this year is going

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to do that. And I feel this way about UIU

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in some ways. It's kind of a kind of mixed

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on it. But what you want is wanted an understuted

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champion at the end of the day. You know, I

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don't want to think back in two thousand and four

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like I do, because we've played both USC and Utah,

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and I think, man, because you talk the USC, because

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I really did the good up. But we'll never know,

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right And if I think USC went on voted as

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national champions, and guess what, that's a disrespect to them

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because I don't even look at them as national champions

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from that year. I told Matt Leonard that, you know,

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on the radio thing a couple of years ago, he

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like was a pall that I'd ever said that you

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thought it was better, And like, well, guess what, I'm

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an opponent of yours, and I think that that's the

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problem because you're not undisputed, Like I don't look at

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it like, yeah, you absolutely were the best you can

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showed us on the sales. No, I don't know. So

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whatever we can do to do that, and again it

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was bius kind of like the same thing. It's like,

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we don't know. You get very healthy again, you get

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him back into the playoffs. You just get into tournament.

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You just don't know how things are gonna shake out.

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But I kind of don't give him the past because

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they had, you know, that opportunity and Harling really pushed

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the ticket into the playoffs, not any and song and

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they didn't do it. But that's what I will out

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of these playoffs. Get that number in there to where

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there's never a question as to like, Okay, these guys

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are under spirit of chance.

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Speaker 4: Brady Popinga on the line Cougar Sports one of three

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nine ninety eight point three ESPN, the Fan Talk and

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some BYU Cougar Football. Would you look at the Pop

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Starts Bowl the Georgia Tech. What challenges do they do

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they post for this? BYU Cougar Football team, Well, they.

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Speaker 2: Got a quarterback who's really good at number ten. He's

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a legit dual track guy. Their whole offense is based

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off of him. I think Jay said it really nice

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and he talks like the very It's like Utah's offense

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in a lot of ways. West Virginia, but they have

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the talent like Utah. Uh, their offensive line, I think

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if Utah's offensive line is you know, ten, their offensive

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line to nine. I think they're left. I think their

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tackles are really good at the right tackles athletic, the

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left tackles athletic insurrans for you or bigger, more kind

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of mallered kind of guys. They'll they'll move the best,

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but they're they're competitive and they try hard. But it's

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all about the quarterback, you know. It's and he's a

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decent thrower. He's an anxious throw He wants when he's

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in the fogging, want to get the ball out, you know.

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Or he runs and then when he runs, he's funny

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because he's not this quick, twitchy guy. He's a real

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patient weaver. So we'll kind of like probe in a

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little spot and then all of a sudden the little

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gap opens and then he can accelerate fast enough to

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exploit those gaps. But uh, but he's a good player, man.

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You have to the key is I disciplined with these

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kind of guys are because we got to get safety supports.

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You don't get safety the support you're gonna get gashed,

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you know, especially on those power runs when you're stealing

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everything to the siline, and so our safety eyes have

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to get so locked in that they're playing crazy downhill

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when it's the power h or any of those point

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guards or were spilling to the edges. But at the

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same time, they can't get sucked up when any playoff

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should pass and get beat over the top because they

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have good enough athletes. They don't have I would say,

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like a receiver like the TCU that number one, he's

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a home run hitter. They have more like guys like

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U sef that they're capable. They can beat you if

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you're not disciplined. But then at the same time, you know,

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if if you're just a little off here, they could,

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you know, pomp one on him, and so you gotta

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be careful. So it's gonna be a really good challenge

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for our guys. I'm excited to have him go down

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to Orlando and you know, joining those festivities and get

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another opportunity. I think it's gonna be huge for you know,

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a lot of these young guys that we've seen grow

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that will continue to grow, and it's gonna be huge

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for better I hope he can come back playing.

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Speaker 5: This is huge in his development to continue to stack weeks,

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continue to stack games to UH to help him out

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to present his highest ability, and so I'm excited for him.

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Speaker 4: Brady Butpinga here on ESBA, the fan discussion of college

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Folau BYU football and more. Couple things here regarding recruiting.

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BYU just signed a top twenty one class in the

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twenty twenty sixth class.

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Speaker 3: I was looking at twenty twenty.

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Speaker 4: Their class was ranked eightieth, and you look at what

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was accomplished from that time to present day.

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Speaker 3: They went eleven and one. They then they've been ten

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and three.

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Speaker 4: Eight and five, five and five and seven and then

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back to back eleven and two seasons with you know,

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you look at BYU's timeline.

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Speaker 3: Typically it takes you know, three four five years in

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order to.

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Speaker 4: I guess, reach a peak with a recruiting class, eightieth

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ranked recruiting class, and I was looking at who was

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in that class? Body scoonover, Who's trending in a great direction?

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John Nelson was another highlight. Soone MOA was like the

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lowest ranked player in that class, pretty crazy. Cody Epps

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was a part of that class. But then I get

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you know, twenty twenty six I'm like, this is the

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twenty first ranked class. Ryder Lions, Bot Mulatalo, Brock Harris,

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Adam Bywater, Tygetchi, Jeron Pula, Lopetti, Mwala Kennon Pula, Jack's Tanner,

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Terrence Seri, and Braxton Lindsay Kawea Conna. I don't know

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if you know all these guys Legend, glasger Mace and

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Matthew Mason. Anyway, Uh, do you any thoughts on the

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twenty twenty sixth class and what this means for BA

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football and do you have any favorites in this class?

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Speaker 2: Well? I tend to not get too excited about it

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because if you come back to my class and wasn't

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very highly talented, but I'd say probably ended up being,

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you know, the best college and pro player out of

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that whole group of guys that recruited ninety eight. But uh,

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I don't really get caught up in it.

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Speaker 3: But I do know who else is in your class?

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Who else was in your class? Do you remember?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like Reno Mahey, Dustin Reiker, I think was in

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that This is class guys that were just when they signed,

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Guys that never showed up. It was kind of fascinating.

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I don't think they could ever qualify. So anyway, another

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you know, another era where we're trying to figuring things out.

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But no, what I love about like this last year especially,

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I remember walking into training camp in August, first part there,

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and I was really impressed with the talent level. You know,

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I just like this is and I saw I've never

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seen this much talent on tood even I said on

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the radio many times in a BYU uniforms, you know,

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And I think what we saw in twenty twenty four

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was a typical BYU team where you had some dang

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good players sprinkled in there and then you just had

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some really good, tough football kids that played a lot

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better than their rob The ability now I believe, and

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this is I think with Clonnie and Kelly and Jay

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and all these guys did really well on the staff

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is they can take talent and they can they can

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maximize that, they can really magnify it. And so they

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and they know also how to continue to work the

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same you know foundation of BAU football, which is scrappy,

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competitive kids that love to play the game. LOVEDYU and

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now if you mixed out with raw talent, you could

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beat anybody in the country any give a week. And

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I think that's where we're at. Quite frankly, I do

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believe that now, can we improve on our skilled position

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players and find some more home run hitters. Absolutely, can

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we do the same, you know on the defensive front,

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you know, find some guys to replace Isaiah and Jack.

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I think we can and so and that's that's hard

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to do here and in year out, you know, but

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I see this as a really exciting time because you're

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getting raw talent combined with that scrappy, tough play with passion,

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humble yu kid. That's a real, real potent combination and that,

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like I said, will always keep them in contention as

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long as they have decent and really functional quarterback play

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year in and year out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that take.

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Speaker 4: And right now, you know, the quarterback room is fantastic.

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Like Bert Bockmeyer, you have, you know, some experience with

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Trason and McKay Hillstead. I wonder, you know, Emerson Golement's

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probably gonna go on a mission. I really liked Emerson Goleman.

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By the way, I wish I wish he was a

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return missionary, right now, any thoughts on Emerson. Have you

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seen him at all in practice, scout team or otherwise?

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Speaker 2: Has he been playing? Is he number ten? I don't

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know what his number is a scout team. He's probably

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number ten this week because we're comparing preparing for during

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his deck. But I mean there's I don't know his name,

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but there's a dude. He's long, he could run and

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he could yet fit that he reminds me Ben Olsen.

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Speaker 4: Number sixteen. Yeah, he's six four to two oh seven.

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He's the product at a boutiful high school's number sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I really, yeah, he's been very impressive against our

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our defense and yeah, and so I like him a lot.

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You know, I think there's as we continue to progress

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and guys don't get kicked out, you know, because because

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like I said last you know, we played in the

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Texas Tech and with Beard rolling up on his ankle,

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getting his ankle rolled up, that was the only time

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where really the quarterback death threw us, you know, this

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whole year, and it wasn't it wasn't about design, right,

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It's not like they didn't recruit enough. We had, I

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mean we were loaded, you know with Jake and then there.

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You couldn't ask for two better start, you know, top

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two quarterbacks, and then obviously those situations with Jake, so uh,

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I see that happening again, and it's gonna be a

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lot of good internal competition. And then as long as

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that stays true and you keep that solid quarterback play,

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you know, we keep getting offensive linemen and tough runners,

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you know, because I think LJ is probably gonna go

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to the NFL. I was invising him. I would, so

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we're you know, we're gonna be looking for another tough

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between the tackles, pile driver basically that you can just

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lean on to really physically pound a team and pulverize them.

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But uh, and I think we'll find somebody. But yeah,

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I mean, this is this is what the Klonie does.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: If you if you remember back to his I think

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it was his first press conference, you know, they're kind

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of doing the you know what do they call that

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dog and pony show, and he kept saying, you know,

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I just want to get to recruiting because that's what

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I love and that's and I think you approve of that,

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Like this is what he does, you know. And then

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he's taught his guys to do the same. And you know,

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Jay and I keep you on bringing jail because I

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think they're cut from the same cloth, you know, Kelly,

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they these guys Justin and the whole crew. They they're

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extra recruiters, you know. And and then they also have

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a really good, uh program to sell. You know, you're

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not selling these guys anymore on hopes and dreams. And

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you know, playing time like he could you know, used

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to be like, hey, you come here at BA and

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immediately play. Now it's hey, you're gonna come and you're

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gonna play. This is top most football prepared to play

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in the other Oh, it's gonna be done in an enjoyable,

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exciting way. And then you got this BUYU fan base

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that you know what you have, you have some good years,

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You're you're gonna become legendary. You know that. That's that's

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very very pillic. So anyway, it's exciting.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 2: I think that, like I said, I think that's a

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weren't a good place. And I think that draft or

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the draft class I called the draft class, that uh,

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that recruiting class is an example.

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We're getting into transfer portal season, bowl season, and obviously

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the coaching carocils still alive and well.

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Speaker 3: With Michigan. That vacancy still there.

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Welcome to college football insider. Jay Crane's on the line

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from Cranonco on the Daily Wire. What's up, Jake, how

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thatck are you?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 1: It's it's an amazing time of year when you look

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at the sports calendar. College basketball is heating up. I know,

542
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look BYU. It's funny everybody keeps waiting on the government

543
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to say whether aliens are real. I'm watching one play

544
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for BYU every single time they take the court. But now, man,

545
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we got the NFL coming down to it. Just an

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amazing time of year to be a sports fan.

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Speaker 4: Hey, what's been keeping you busy this past week? As

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it relates to the college football world. What have you

549
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guys been delving into a craning coke?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean it's typically it's my eleven month

551
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old that keeps me busy, But now this, you know,

552
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obviously there's a lot that's been going on. When you

553
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look at on the field, who made the twelfth team playoff?

554
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You look at the craziness of the coaching cycle, not

555
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just you know, Sharon Moore losing his mind. But now

556
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it seems like we've added another layer finding out that

557
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DJ Lagway, Dylan Ryola, even Brendan Soresby from Cincinnati, who

558
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I think is probably going to be sneaky in the portal.

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It's college football is just an ever changing drama, and

560
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it seems like it's it's to the tenth degree or

561
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in degree or whatever at this point in time. So

562
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there's no shortage of content, that's for sure.

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Speaker 4: How would you have vowed you wait the coaching carousel

564
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and how everything's played out over the last month or so.

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Speaker 1: Well, Look, I mean, when you have this many big

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time jobs that are open within the same cycle, typically

567
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there isn't enough supply for the demand. But I mean,

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I look at some of the hires made across the board,

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and starting with John Sumrall at Florida. You know, I'm

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from Auburn originally, and he was the number one guy

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that I wanted to get once they fired Hugh Freeze.

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But I thought the goali Ish hire, just from an

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identity and personality standpoint, was really good. But it's hard

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to sit here and not think of the absolute transformer

575
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that got built with Lane Kiffen going to LSU, And

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if they get Sam Levitt out of the portal, it's

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going to be nightmare fuel for everybody else when you

578
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put those two guys together. So Lane going to LSU,

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even though Lane doesn't have a championship, and I understand

580
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that it's hard not to look at that marriage and

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at least feel like that's probably the best marriage Lane

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Kiff has ever been a part of. And we'll see

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how long it lasts outside of that, you know, I

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think that Eric Mores hired at Oklahoma State, it's going

585
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to end up being a really good when. He's a

586
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guy that really knows how to evaluate quarterbacks. But I

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think there's been some pretty good high even Penn State,

588
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who looked like they were lost in the wilderness are like,

589
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you know, a kid wandering around Walmart.

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Speaker 3: Trying to find his parents.

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Speaker 1: They end up landing on Matt Campbell, who I think

592
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is a little bit overrated, But given the circumstance of

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what happened when it happened at Penn State, I think

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ending up with Matt Campbell is probably about the best

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case scenario. So I think there's been a lot of

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really good hires this offseason. Then you've had people that

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have decided to stay put. You look at Drinkawa, It's

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at Missouri, you look at Kilanie Sataki at Vyu. So

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I think it's been a good mix and it's been

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a good cycle overall for pretty much everybody.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, who do you think has won the coaching carousel

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this cycle?

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Speaker 4: Is there anybody that you're like, you know what, this

604
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is going to have the best ROI I think low

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key the Matt Campbell hire, with the unlimited resources that

606
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Penn State has, is going to be a really good hier.

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I think he actually fits the brand, and also the

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recruiting base and his tentacles where he's recruited, how he's

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recruited over the years, the staff that he's going to

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bring along with him. I actually think that's a low key,

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probably one of the best rois in college football. Matt

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Campbell brought Iowa State back up from the depths. It's

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not a Curt Signetti.

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Speaker 3: Story, but it's pretty good. It's kind of that lower

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tier of that I thought.

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Speaker 4: I thought Kansas State, what they did over the years

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with Chris Clemban was kind of similar to what Matt

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Campbell had been doing as well. But Matt Campbell's young,

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vibrant has a lot of pomp and circumstance around, a

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lot of vigoran vim in them.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, Yeah, look, I think Matt's going to

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do fine at Penn State. The question is is fine

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obviously isn't good enough, right, He's gonna have to He's

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gonna have to win a championship of some type. I

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think probably the first three to forty years to really

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feel good about that ROI. But if we're gonna stick

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just to ro O I, I don't know how you

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don't look at Virginia Tech, Virginia Tech getting James Franklin

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and saying, maybe James Franklin's not the best coach that

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was in this cycle, but I feel like he's the

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best person that Virginia Tech could have possibly gotten, And

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only this crazy circumstance could have led to James Franklin

633
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going to Virginia Tech. Because I'm gonna be honest with you,

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But when Mike Norvell looked like he was going to

635
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get fired, it looked like James Franklin was holding out

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for FIDA state. That doesn't happen, and then all of

637
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a sudden, James Franklin ends up going to Virginia Tech.

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And you look at the money that is already pouring

639
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in this Virginia Tech program right now, they are all in.

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So I think Virginia Tech, if we're going to look

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at who punched above their weight or you know who

642
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brought home the nine when they're at when they're a six,

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it feels like Virginia Tech.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a great analysis. We've got Jay Crane,

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Crane and co Daily Wire here on esp and the

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Fan discussing the college football coaching.

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Speaker 3: Carousel and more. B YU was left out.

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Speaker 4: Look, if you or you look over the last two

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seasons going to eleven and two, eleven and two, they

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had a better resume. I think that Miami had a

651
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better resume than Notre Dame had a Betzer resume. Maybe

652
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even then Alabama or Oklahoma. They were ultimately left out

653
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because they just got beat up too badly versus the

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number four team in the country. And I think what

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they do is they evaluate that They're like, well, they're

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not gonna win the college football playoffs.

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Speaker 3: We're just gonna leave them out. Right, give me your

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analysis on.

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Speaker 4: The BYU Cougar football team over the last two years

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and why they've been on the outside looking into the

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playoffs even though they're in a resume look pretty good.

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They have some good cachet built up over the last

663
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fifty years of winning at a high level as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, if you're sitting here saying, well, if b

665
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YU can't win the national championship, why put him in?

666
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And then you put in James Madison in two lane?

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Then I could I got some beachfront property in Kansas.

668
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I could sell you for a price that will blow

669
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your mind. Look. BYU fans have a right to be upset.

670
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They have more of a right to be upset this

671
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year than last year. But you know that's obvious. Any

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BYU fan listening to this is going to think that

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they got, you know, the short end of the state.

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Speaker 3: And they did.

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Speaker 1: But I think a lot of BYU fans are getting

676
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mad at the wrong people. The people that you should

677
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be mad at is the way that we set up

678
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this system that gives away automatic bids. You can't have

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meritocracy and automatic bids at the same time. It just

680
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doesn't work like that. And the fact that we have

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two group of five teams in a twelve team playoff

682
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when an eleven and one BYU, A ten and two

683
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Notre Dame, A ten and two Vandy got left out

684
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is an absolute joke and it makes it unseious. What

685
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we should do is it should be a fourteen team

686
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should make the postseason the top ten, and I've got

687
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a formula for how to pick them, and it involves

688
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a much better committee than we have right now. The

689
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top ten are already in the tournament. We need a

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play in game between the eleven and fourteen seed and

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the twelve and the thirteen. Imagine being able to have

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a game where BYU is playing Notre Dame, or BYU

693
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is playing Vandy, and then Texas is playing Miami, or

694
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are just any mix of that, and you do it

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the week after the conference championship games are played, because

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some teams may have to play both the way it

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works out, and by you would have been an example

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of that, having to play the conference championship and then

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a playing game the next weekend, which I'm sure they

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would not have been upset about. And the two teams

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that win that become the eleven and twelve seed, and

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we run our tournament out the way that we run

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it with the twelve. But we don't do that because

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we're stupid. And the greatest sport that God has ever

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given us, and the greatest way to play that sport,

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which is college, the way we pick the teams to

707
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,039
make the most important area of said sport is an

708
00:32:32,079 --> 00:32:35,200
absolute joke and it's a disaster. And until we fix that,

709
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,440
all the other stuff to me is meaningless.

710
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, So then on those playing games.

711
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 4: So we take the Allible Bowl, the Poptarch Bowl, the

712
00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:48,799
Citrus Bowl, I don't know, the Sun Bowl, and those

713
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,079
become the playing games.

714
00:32:50,279 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying to get for the it'd

715
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:54,240
be two games.

716
00:32:54,759 --> 00:32:57,279
Speaker 1: It would be two games, so you could call them whatever,

717
00:32:57,359 --> 00:32:59,119
while you could call them a blind hippopotamus.

718
00:32:59,160 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 3: I don't care, can we?

719
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,759
Speaker 4: I'm saying you want a corporate American involved or to

720
00:33:02,799 --> 00:33:04,279
be able to get there do as well?

721
00:33:04,359 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 3: Right, you've got to have some bowl games? Right?

722
00:33:06,039 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: What do you think whatever gets us whatever? You can

723
00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:10,559
put whatever name on you want, who wants to pay

724
00:33:10,599 --> 00:33:11,960
the most money this that or the other. But what

725
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,240
we also need to do, because the ball system's cooked.

726
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,960
Let's be honest, it's been cooked ever since we started

727
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,559
having these opt outs. What we need to do is

728
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,519
have another twelve team tournament that is set up almost

729
00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:24,880
like an n T For the teams that don't make it.

730
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,759
You can keep all those yeah, but what's the goal?

731
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 3: Pragmatically, do you think that's gonna happen?

732
00:33:29,759 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 4: What's the easiest thing that makes every like most people happy,

733
00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:35,400
because they're still going to be angry people with the

734
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,079
big brands, the presure, big hitters, Like, what's the easiest

735
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:39,559
thing to do?

736
00:33:39,759 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 3: Do you think?

737
00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:44,119
Speaker 1: Well, you attach nil money to it, the nit part

738
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,680
of it, and that incentivizes not only the schools but

739
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:49,240
the players. We just saw that in college basketball with

740
00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:51,759
the players. There are our new era tournament whatever out

741
00:33:51,799 --> 00:33:54,400
in Vegas where you can win in il money. There's

742
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,799
got to be some incentive nowadays, and you'll still have

743
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,200
guys that opt out that are going to be first

744
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,000
round picks and stuff like that. And to me, I

745
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,559
understand that if you're not playing in the main one.

746
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,119
But we have way too many bowls right now. We

747
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,480
need to have another twelve teen tournament that is a

748
00:34:08,599 --> 00:34:12,400
kind of a consolation tournament with nil incentive and more people.

749
00:34:12,519 --> 00:34:16,119
Can you imagine how much more money you could make

750
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,159
if you did it that way, because that look, it's

751
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:20,559
a business. Just like college. You think they want to

752
00:34:20,599 --> 00:34:22,320
teach you, No, they want you to give them money

753
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:23,960
and then they'll teach you. You can pick a stupid

754
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,280
degree and they don't care. It's a business. That's what

755
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:27,880
this is at the end of the day. But I

756
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,599
think we can have a marriage between common sense, meritocracy,

757
00:34:32,119 --> 00:34:35,239
the bowl system, and a smart business sense, and.

758
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 3: We just don't do it.

759
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: And it's easy to tell why when you see who

760
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,320
you know. We have this leadership void at the top

761
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,199
of the sport, and then we have a committee full

762
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:46,800
of people that are literally tied into institutions currently that

763
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,920
are paying them. We saw an NCAA basketball tournament. If

764
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,199
Bubba Cunningham, what in the head of the selection committee

765
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:54,840
in College of Basketball North Carolina ain't getting in, I

766
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,920
can promise you that. So it's just like everything that's

767
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,119
a business, there's some corruption in it. But I do

768
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,280
feel like we could have a solid marriage if they'll

769
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,960
just listen to people that love the sport and know

770
00:35:04,039 --> 00:35:06,199
what they're talking about and are getting paid by a

771
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:07,039
certain institution.

772
00:35:07,519 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, Noreadad probably plays in let's say it is the

773
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:11,960
Pop Tarts Bowl this week.

774
00:35:12,599 --> 00:35:14,039
Speaker 3: If it's a playing game right.

775
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,639
Speaker 1: One hundred percent without a Marcus Freeman then would crawl

776
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,960
up there backwards to play in that game. And then

777
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,880
you get a chance to go approve everybody wrong. And

778
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,280
I think Colonie Sataki would would do the same thing. Heck,

779
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,880
crk Lee from Vanderbilt was trying to schedule a thirteen

780
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,760
game to be able to play. So without a doubt,

781
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,719
those teams would play and it would get really great viewership,

782
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,199
It would make a lot of money, and I just

783
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:37,400
don't understand why we don't do it.

784
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 3: How would you?

785
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 4: I've been kind of I was going through, like how

786
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,400
I would compartmentalize college football this season? Your elite teams,

787
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,639
your great teams, your very good teams, your good teams,

788
00:35:51,639 --> 00:35:56,079
you're above average teams, and then average teams. Right, I

789
00:35:56,199 --> 00:35:59,199
think the top definitely, the top four teams are lead

790
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,559
right one seeds uh, and the jury still out on

791
00:36:02,679 --> 00:36:04,800
whether or not Oregan's an elite team. I give them

792
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,679
the elite stats, so like one through five to me

793
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,320
is elite six through like about sixteen.

794
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,039
Speaker 3: I think they're all pretty compared.

795
00:36:12,119 --> 00:36:14,679
Speaker 4: Those are very good to Those are great teams, right,

796
00:36:14,679 --> 00:36:16,840
I think they're great football teams. You're gonna see a

797
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,440
lot of like, uh, parody between those teams. You see

798
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,039
a lot of two loss maybe even three loss teams

799
00:36:23,079 --> 00:36:26,000
there that can compete there. But they're probably they're more

800
00:36:26,039 --> 00:36:28,480
often than not, they're gonna lose to the elite teams, right,

801
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:34,760
depending on neutral home away situations. And then I think

802
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,280
you get into like seventeen through maybe thirty that you

803
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,280
can say those are your good teams, very good teams, right,

804
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,480
and then you get into above average and into average,

805
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,840
which are your Bowl eligible teams at like six and six,

806
00:36:47,159 --> 00:36:50,320
five and seven. How would you compartmentalize it and would

807
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,800
you agree with that? Maybe that breakdown that I just gave.

808
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,039
Speaker 1: You, Yeah, I think again it's it's the prison which

809
00:36:56,079 --> 00:36:58,800
through you've you know, you view it through. Do I

810
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,760
think there is an elite eight team just overall that

811
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,119
this team when you look at all three phases is

812
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,559
elite like we used to see the Bama teams and

813
00:37:06,679 --> 00:37:09,280
some of the Georgia teams and some others in the past.

814
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,960
Ohio State, I don't know if we have an elite

815
00:37:12,599 --> 00:37:14,840
full team in all three phases. I think we have

816
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,360
teams that have elite sides of the ball, like Ohio

817
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,159
States defense is an elite side of the ball, and

818
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,199
they're really good on offense. But I don't know if

819
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,920
we have an absolute elite team the way we've had

820
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,079
in the past. Now, when you look at the scope

821
00:37:28,119 --> 00:37:30,880
of who we have this year. Yes, you feel like

822
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,719
Ohio State's roster is as good as anybody's up there.

823
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,400
But I'm gonna tell you the teams that will go

824
00:37:35,559 --> 00:37:38,239
the farthest. And this is always how it is, whether

825
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,599
it's football, basketball, or baseball. When you look at a

826
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,800
sudden death style tournament, it is the teams that can

827
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,119
win the most ways, and it are that it is

828
00:37:47,199 --> 00:37:50,039
the teams that are the closest to balance. That's why

829
00:37:50,199 --> 00:37:52,400
to me, you look at a team like Texas A

830
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,639
and M. Texas A and M can win a game

831
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,599
fifty to forty nine or ten to nine. You look

832
00:37:57,599 --> 00:38:00,840
at a team like Indiana, who may not be elite

833
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,199
on either side of the ball, but they're just pretty

834
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,719
dagnam good on each side and they play complimentary football.

835
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,320
You look at a team like Texas Tech, elite on defense,

836
00:38:10,559 --> 00:38:13,039
questionable on offense. I've got a lot of questions about

837
00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:16,440
Morton when it comes down to playing against an elite defense,

838
00:38:16,519 --> 00:38:18,679
like he's going to run into Oregon. I think is

839
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,079
scary because they basically got a bunch of twelve year

840
00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:22,920
olds that don't realize they're not supposed to be this

841
00:38:23,039 --> 00:38:25,960
good yet, but they're really talented and Dan Lanning can

842
00:38:26,119 --> 00:38:29,039
motivate better than Napoleon or a bunch of people we've

843
00:38:29,079 --> 00:38:33,679
seen in the past. Oklahoma, again, elite defense right offense

844
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,840
has had a lot of problems, So I don't know

845
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,400
if we have a categorically three phase elite team, which

846
00:38:39,559 --> 00:38:41,840
to me makes it more fun. I don't want to

847
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,559
know the end of the movie right when I go

848
00:38:43,679 --> 00:38:45,639
watch the beginning of it. And I feel like we've

849
00:38:45,679 --> 00:38:48,079
had that in college football a lot in the last

850
00:38:48,079 --> 00:38:50,559
ten to fifteen years. But this season we did our

851
00:38:50,679 --> 00:38:53,079
pick them show today, the full college football playoff who

852
00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:54,320
we have win it and stuff like that, and I'm

853
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,559
gonna be honest, it was harder this year than it's

854
00:38:56,599 --> 00:38:57,679
been any year in the past.

855
00:38:58,159 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 3: Who'd you pick if you don't? Or is that to

856
00:39:00,639 --> 00:39:02,719
a tease kind of wait, wait and see time?

857
00:39:03,519 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: Here we go. I won't tell you who I picked.

858
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,239
You can. You can go to Cranting Company. It's out

859
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:08,599
now on YouTube. But I'll tell you this.

860
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 3: I've got a.

861
00:39:11,559 --> 00:39:14,519
Speaker 1: Seed above a seven making the National Championship game.

862
00:39:14,639 --> 00:39:15,639
Speaker 2: So I'll leave you with that.

863
00:39:16,159 --> 00:39:18,119
Speaker 3: I like that, very hot, very fiery.

864
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, Okay, so like, for how

865
00:39:22,159 --> 00:39:25,079
long would you say, how many years now has the

866
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:30,960
SEC and the Big Ten dominated college football?

867
00:39:31,079 --> 00:39:31,199
Speaker 3: Right?

868
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 4: They built up cachet equity, right, NFL production resources, infrastructure,

869
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,920
TV money, all these things, Like how long have they

870
00:39:40,039 --> 00:39:42,119
been the two dominant conferences?

871
00:39:42,639 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 3: Would you say in college football?

872
00:39:47,039 --> 00:39:49,079
Speaker 1: Well, if you're going to use both of them and

873
00:39:49,159 --> 00:39:51,159
not just use one of them before.

874
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:51,159
Speaker 5: Would you?

875
00:39:51,559 --> 00:39:53,559
Speaker 4: Would you just say SEC is and so would you

876
00:39:53,679 --> 00:39:55,599
just would you split those up and say SEC is

877
00:39:55,639 --> 00:39:56,480
different than the Big Ten?

878
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 3: Are they on each you know?

879
00:39:58,079 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: I would say I would say this, I think the

880
00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:03,079
Big Ten at the top has a better team overall

881
00:40:03,159 --> 00:40:05,400
than the SEC, but I think from top to bottom

882
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,360
the SEC is better. But you're right, the Big Ten

883
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,639
in the SEC. You know, if you want to put

884
00:40:09,679 --> 00:40:11,519
both of them together compared to the Big twelve in

885
00:40:11,559 --> 00:40:13,480
the ACC, they have been better. And I know a

886
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,039
lot of Big twelve fans will be like, oh, well,

887
00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:18,320
you're just an an elitist. No, I promise you I'm

888
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,000
not the same when it said be why you should

889
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,800
have been in the playoffs. But I'm not going to

890
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,920
cover my eyes and just pretend like everybody's equal because

891
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,360
they're not. I would say, man, I'm gonna be honest

892
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,760
with you, I think for going on almost twenty years,

893
00:40:32,159 --> 00:40:35,039
and you know, I'm thirty six years old, so you know,

894
00:40:35,119 --> 00:40:37,000
some people may want to go further than that, but

895
00:40:37,519 --> 00:40:39,400
I would say the better part of two decades.

896
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 3: Okay, so two decades.

897
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,639
Speaker 4: Let's say that that's the baseline, and we lean into

898
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,559
these brands and this equity that has been built over

899
00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:49,679
the last two decades and maybe even more than that

900
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:54,360
twenty five years, to what can we attribute most of

901
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:55,840
that brand equity to?

902
00:40:56,079 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 3: And like this power structure right.

903
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 4: When we're talking about strength of record, strength to schedule,

904
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,119
and the SEC and Big Ten are like going to

905
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:06,559
like nine conference games, right, my concern is to.

906
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,519
Speaker 3: What do we give that equity to?

907
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 4: What were these two conferences cheating circumventing the former NC

908
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,760
double A rules, as coach Ortaron mentioned, in order to

909
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,719
build up that equity, And so you're you're you're giving

910
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,199
them I guess, like, you know, if that is the case,

911
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,320
if it was done through cheating and they're trying to

912
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,199
create this cabal cartel keeping like leverage over the rest

913
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,039
of the world, it's like, wait, no, you cheated your

914
00:41:34,039 --> 00:41:36,679
way into that equity, and now there's parody which you

915
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,159
bring up in your elite to very good great.

916
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,119
Speaker 3: College football rankings. Does that make sense? That's my concern

917
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:45,599
right now in college football.

918
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I kind of got a special attachment

919
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,440
to this because I coached Division one football for almost

920
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,079
a decade and I was at a group of five

921
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,599
for five years, and you know, we paid guys, so

922
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,440
I you know, I'm not saying everybody paid, but there

923
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:02,760
is much.

924
00:42:02,679 --> 00:42:04,599
Speaker 3: Of that equity was built through cheating.

925
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:11,079
Speaker 1: God, I mean, I would say over half, I would think.

926
00:42:11,159 --> 00:42:15,079
Now again, yeah, but you know, at the end of

927
00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:18,679
the day, if everybody pretty much everybody's cheating, if.

928
00:42:18,559 --> 00:42:21,519
Speaker 4: You're that not everyone was allowed to cheat, though not

929
00:42:21,639 --> 00:42:24,960
everyone was allowed to cheat, allow.

930
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:26,559
Speaker 3: Allowed to cheat.

931
00:42:28,639 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 4: Texas and Oklahoma were allowed to cheat sometimes us She

932
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,719
was allowed to cheat. But even they got Reggie Bush

933
00:42:34,039 --> 00:42:39,239
got reprimanded, right, Reggie Bushyama got reprimanded.

934
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:39,559
Speaker 1: Yeah.

935
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well that's what I'm saying is like, when were

936
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:47,199
they actually reprimanding, castigating and holding them accountable, right, and

937
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,079
more often than not, they looked the other way and

938
00:42:49,119 --> 00:42:51,519
no one was being investigated and everyone was they were

939
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,639
they were built. I mean, what was the last team

940
00:42:54,679 --> 00:42:56,840
to win a National Championship on like the West Coast.

941
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,559
I think it was USC right, Texas can't even win

942
00:42:59,639 --> 00:43:03,000
one year, right, it's always been over the last twenty

943
00:43:03,079 --> 00:43:05,599
thirty years, it's been SEC Big ten. And you wonder,

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leaning on what coach O said, right, n Il, He's like, oh,

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now they just they go through the front, going around

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than the back door. Right when you heard that sound bite,

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they're cheating, man, it's ludicrous. And now they're going to

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nine conference games and they're like, well, we're the best conference,

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we produce the NFL, we have all the resources.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because you cheated.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, I will say I do think that the

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recruiting ground is a lot more fertile when you get

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to certain areas of the country. But I'm not going

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to hear and pretend like people weren't paying people. I

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know again was part of it, but I think it's

956
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a common misconception that it was only a certain amount

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of teams and there's other ways to pay people. The

958
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amount of jobs that parents got of players at places

959
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is crazy. So look, at the end of the day,

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it's like holding on the offensive line. If you ain't cheating,

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you ain't trying. I mean, it's just when everybody else is.

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I mean, we can sit here and complain about it,

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but I mean again, when you look at viewership, you

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look at at stadium size, you look at the money

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that's pumped into it, a lot of times people wouldn't

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get punished because they make a lot of money for

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the sport. And you can like that, you cannot like it.

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That's why I love that now everybody can get paid, right,

969
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And to be honest with you, it actually for the

970
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top tier players they lost money because if you took

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five official visits and got one hundred thousand from each

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school you went to, and you didn't go to their school,

973
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well they couldn't call the NCAA or the cops and

974
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be like, well this guy is one hundred grand. You

975
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just got to pocket it. So yeah, look, I agree

976
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with you. The SEC paid sies, the Big ten paid guys,

977
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A lot of people paid guys. It's just the nature

978
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of the beats. But now we got a little bit

979
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better system. It's not great because they let it out

980
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win no rules, but it is better than what we had.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but they don't want those cross conference data points anymore.

982
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That's the thing.

983
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Speaker 4: They don't want those They don't want those, and they're

984
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going to just leverage that brand ad cond you over

985
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the last thirty years they built.

986
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Speaker 1: Through, Right, you think a lot of that has to

987
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do with the playoffs, Like I think a lot of

988
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that has to do with the playoff and the expansion

989
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of the playoff. I mean, look, you had.

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Speaker 4: Five teams in the SEC. Five teams in the SEC

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this year built off their brands.

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Speaker 1: But there's two group of fives. Like again, there's two

993
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group of fives. It's hard to argue on one hand

994
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when you let two of the little guys in last

995
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year Boiseing State was the top four team.

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Speaker 3: You gotta buy.

997
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Speaker 1: I watched Cincinnati make a four team playoff, like I'm

998
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sick of the oh the little guy never catches or

999
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,960
break it's a big, bad SEC. I'm watching James Madison

1000
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in Tulane make a twelve team playoff in college football.

1001
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Speaker 2: So I wont christ here as over that, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: Best way to support you, Jake, what you do, how

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you do, because I know you got a hard out.

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You got to get out of here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, look, YouTube's the best way.

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Speaker 2: Y'all got the short end of the stick.

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Speaker 1: But I'm telling you you got a great guy leading

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the program and I'm excited for UTAH as well.

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Speaker 2: And what a career by coach winning him.

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Speaker 4: No doubt about it. Hey, appreciate you, Jake. Always a pleasure,

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always a blessing talking ball with you. Man, Have a

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great rest of your day.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, been anytime, buddy. Thank you guys.

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