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Speaker 3: It's the best I think. I think it's the best

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Speaker 2: Yes, there are many great rivalry games that are maybe

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unique and singular rivalry in my opinion, and I think

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Remember BYU in Utah. There meeting for the ninety seven

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time in this long standing rivalry. Uh, and it's been

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great to renew it. As conference foes. BYU trails this

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series all time thirty three and fifty nine, so thirty

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three wins, fifty nine losses and four ties. The Cougars

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won the last two meetings though a twenty six to

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not enmity in violence towards our neighbor. So yeah, we've

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, even the last time.

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Speaker 3: Like people have been.

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Speaker 2: Arrested for years for their actions during rivalry holy warworks.

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Speaker 3: So it gets crazy.

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Speaker 2: And what's crazy is that there is cross pollination between

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Speaker 3: We have so many.

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Speaker 3: So let's get into it, Jay Hill.

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Speaker 2: Some are saying, Jay, this is the biggest matchup in

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Speaker 3: Do you buy into that?

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Speaker 6: At all, this is a huge rivalry game.

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Speaker 7: It means a lot for both programs who it could mean,

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conference championship implications, all that stuff. We're so early in

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the season. I can't say it's the biggest one in

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Speaker 6: Those were pretty big those games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, where would we rank this one? Right?

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Speaker 2: We're looking at the history, the history, the historical elements,

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like how big is this particular game. There's only been

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in which both teams have been ranked, so like to

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a certain degree, the seriousness of this, in the gravity

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of the conference implication, of the national implication of it.

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that could lead to either a conference championship.

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Speaker 3: Or a big Bowl game. Does that make sense?

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Speaker 1: Hammertime Show, Let me ask you this, in the history

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of this rivalry, when was the last time these two

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teams were competing for a conference title?

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Speaker 3: In a P four conference. The answer to that would

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Speaker 1: So then let me ask you this, when has the

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playoffs and the national championship ever been so directly tied

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to you winning your conference? And I would argue never,

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because it has the biggest implications in terms of two

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teams competing for a conference title, in turn competing for

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a playoff spot, and in term competing for the top

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spot in all of college football.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I really think there's an argument to be made

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about this being the biggest, most important Holy War.

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Speaker 3: Kyle Whittingham's legacy can.

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Speaker 2: Be sollied a little bit true with three straight losses

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and him being pushed out and ushered into retirement, like

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the ad, even the the incumbent Morgan Scalley, saying like, hey,

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it may be time to move on new leadership. New vision,

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et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Like and you could

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have fans right that may be like, look like Witch

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he needs to retire. So like, there's a lot on

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Speaker 3: I'm willing to hear it. I'm willing to.

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Speaker 2: Hear at cougardation and Jay Hill says, look, I'm not like,

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I'm not gonna sit here and say yeah.

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Speaker 3: It is or it isn't.

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Speaker 2: But at the end of this end of the season,

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I think we're gonna be able to know pretty gosh

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darn well how big this game was, right, how important

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this game was in relation to the other Holy Wars

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of the past. Now, let's talk Utah Scauting report. How

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does Devin Dampier compared to dual threat quarterbacks you face

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thus far this season.

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Speaker 6: Well, he's obviously a very good player.

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Speaker 7: He can beat you with his arm and his legs

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in many ways. He reminds me of Noah Fafita that

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we just played.

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Speaker 6: They're both.

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Speaker 7: Very good with their pocket presence. They're both very good with,

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you know, keeping their eyes down field. They're both very

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athletic in the pocket. So I think he's very comparable

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to Noah. He does run it more than Noah did.

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Speaker 3: So agree with that assessment. Disagree with that assessment. How

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are they shame?

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Speaker 2: How are they similar Noah Flafita versus Devin Dampierre.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, when I see Noah Fafida, it doesn't

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scream Devin Dampierre to me. However, I'm not the expert.

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Jay Hill absolutely is the expert. I think they're different,

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and he did mention one of the biggest ways, which

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Speaker 3: That's not his mo.

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Speaker 1: It's not that he's not capable of it, that's just

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not his core competency. Devin Dampierre was a guy who

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was Mount West Conference Player of the Year. He only

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threw eleven passing touchdowns. Part of that was because he

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was dangerous with his legs. I don't know that he

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is the same as Noah Fafida in terms of the

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way they play, but in terms of them both being

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threat guys who play at a high level, they're probably

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the closest because Kayden Salters, well we think he's decent, is.

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Speaker 3: Not the quarterback that Devin Deppier or a no Fa

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Speaker 1: And then Khalil Wilkins at West Virginia same deal, like

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very athletic, very explosive, but doesn't really pose that much

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of a threat. So from that standpoint, yeah, I definitely

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think the closest of everybody that he's played in terms

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of talent, in terms of being dangerous, probably no Fafia.

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Speaker 3: I think body type WIH.

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Speaker 2: You can make the argument Noah is a much better

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thrower and passer than Devidier. Now Devin does have a

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strong arm, but he's an over the top thrower. From

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a mechanical standpoint, he you could tell like he didn't

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like grow up with like QB mechanics school where he

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was at, and he's adapted his throw motion to you know,

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his height right, and he's not one that like necessarily

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is is as polished as Noah and know it is

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an extremely polished, accurate passer. Even that final throw on

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the double move, like luckily Evan Johnson kind of tugged.

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It's like a little catch and release tug two three

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inches more that wide receiver of UVA catches that, So

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shout out to Evan Johnson. That was a perfectly thrown

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ball by Noel Fafita. I don't see Devin Dampierre as

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even though he's extremely efficient seventy percent accuracy, it's dissimilar

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to the way that Noah Fafita throws the ball. Devin

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is a much better runner, and he's more dynamic in

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that regard. Kind of reminds me like Noah reminds me

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of like a kind of like a Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 3: But even Kyler wants to run it more than than Noah.

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Speaker 2: But like Kyler can rip, like Kyler's a thrower passer

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that can run. Damn Piers unique Man, He's he's a

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dynamic runner. He's gonna want him pick up first downs

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with his legs. Jason Beck is gonna run Devin Dampierre

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just as much as Kilo Wilkins like that. That's probably

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gonna be from a volumes. You're gonna see more of that,

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gonna go through progression one too. Buckle my shoe and

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he's gonna take off, and he's gonna force Shale, Isaiah

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and Jack to to ultimately make plays in the open field.

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Speaker 1: He's also the leading rusher on this team. Like I know,

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bear Bachmeer runs the ball a lot. Bear Bachmeer is

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not the leading rusher on the football team. Dopafi is

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not the leading rusher on the football team. Devin dam

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Pierre is your leading rusher.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: And that's why I would say like Devin reminds me

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more of like a Kyler Murray in college than than

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maybe like Noah right, just to kind of give some

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idea of about high weight throw ability and running ability

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for those that haven't watched him to appear. Now, let's

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get move on, Jay Hill. What status of Jack Kelly

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and Raider de Moody.

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Speaker 6: So we're expecting Jack to go.

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Speaker 7: He's practiced really good the last two weeks, well especially

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this week.

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Speaker 6: But he even practiced last week.

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Speaker 7: And then Raider right now, it's say is doubtful, just

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depending on how he continues to progress.

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Speaker 3: So big news.

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Speaker 2: Jack Kelly available to play. Been practicing extremely well, probably

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engaging in mostly non contact running drills. Right he's going

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through eleven eleven. He's wearing a green jersey, no contact,

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no blocking. We want to keep him healthy, nothing to

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prove highly involved in his physical therapy, you know, making

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sure that shoulder is going to see a brother, making

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sure that shoulders nice and tight. Right, feeling good and

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ready to go. Raider to Mooney not playing.

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Speaker 3: It is a loss.

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Speaker 2: Took a helmet friendly fire by Sialia Sarah unintentional. It

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just happens to his hip and rib area. So he

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may be out a week or so. Okay, as far

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as the injury report is concerned, though, Tommy Passus is

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gonna be sitting out. He had an ankle injury, and

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it's just it's a high ankle. Heinkel Suck as a

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defensive back eye had a mild highnkle. It took me

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out multiple weeks my senior year. It's hard to get back,

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especially if you're not resting it. So I think they're

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just gonna shit him out. Remember Jojo Phillips shone Moa,

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Marcus McKenzie, that's a surprise that hurts you on the

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punt cover.

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Speaker 3: I hate that.

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Speaker 2: And then shape Bryant Strawther all out Rader de Moony doubtful.

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I don't think he's playing.

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Speaker 3: And then an.

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Speaker 2: Easy Percell probable that's good news that he's just a

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little bit dinged up. Your four D tackles gonna have

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to make their money this week versus an elite offensive line,

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a great offensive line in college football.

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Speaker 3: Settle Tonavasa, you need.

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Speaker 2: His best performance of the season like it was against

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BYU last year. He was dominant versus bou last year.

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Speaker 3: He needs to be the.

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Speaker 2: Best guy on the field this year to disrupt and

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create chaos. And I want to see that. John Tellwaipao,

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and he's a big game. Kirkland needs a good game

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as well as an easy percel.

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Speaker 1: And you know the way that this matchup has been

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set up. You know the Utah offensive line is saying, hey,

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you can beat us with Justin Kirkland. You can beat

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us with Cecilia Kana. You're not beating us with Keiana Zavasa.

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We're triple and double teaming that guy. He's not gonna

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have an effect on this game. So if you want

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to have an effect on the so called number one

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offensive line in college football, you're gonna have to do

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it with somebody else, because it's not gonna be Coan

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of ton of Vasa. That's what they're saying. I don't

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know how that's gonna go. I do think Keana town

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of Vasa. We know has a little extra added motivation

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going into this one. We know he's a fired up,

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passionate guy. That to me is gonna be one of

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the most fun matchups to watch. I know the de

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tackle offensive line matchup is not the sexiest one that

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fans are paying attention to, but that one is gonna

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be a fun chess match to watch on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to Utah pool guys stopping by and getting

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to break. But that initial uh, that initial report the

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injury report for the ute Chructors out, Rabbit AVMs safety

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Nate Richie's out for the season, Dadrian Zipperer, Hunter Andrews,

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Josh Sovereign, Paul Fitzgerald, Grady Moreco, and Isaiah Garcia all

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celebrity that's gonna be showing up from BYU as well?

470
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Speaker 3: Big New Kickoff doesn't do celebrities as much.

471
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Speaker 1: I do think Kalani will be there to do an

472
00:24:21,079 --> 00:24:23,079
interview like he did last time.

473
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Speaker 3: I do.

474
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Speaker 1: I'm almost positive Dave Portnoy and some of the Barstool

475
00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:28,960
people will be there because they have that partnership and

476
00:24:29,279 --> 00:24:31,599
Dave does a lot of their Big New Kickoff coverage.

477
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,759
He's actually been in town doing his pizza reviews, so

478
00:24:34,799 --> 00:24:36,640
he's been hitting a couple of spots up in Salt Lake.

479
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,240
Hasn't hit any spots in provo Or as far as

480
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,799
I'm aware, But as a as a big New York

481
00:24:41,799 --> 00:24:44,400
style pizza guy, I have yet to find a place

482
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,319
in Or. I'm a Provo so that would make sense

483
00:24:46,319 --> 00:24:48,480
why he hasn't been there yet. But yeah, Dave Portnoy

484
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:49,640
and the boys should be there as well.

485
00:24:49,799 --> 00:24:51,599
Speaker 2: All right, so there you have it to come on

486
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,839
by for the big newon kickoff as well.

487
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,079
Speaker 3: All right, let's get back to Jay Hill, your defense coordinator.

488
00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 2: Assistant or you're associate assistant head coach. Your young defensive

489
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,319
backs seem to be progressing very well.

490
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:05,759
Speaker 3: Jay, what do you attribute that to?

491
00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:07,599
Speaker 6: Well, the corners.

492
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 7: I really love the way coach Gilford coaches those guys.

493
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,799
He does a great job with just educating him, obviously

494
00:25:14,839 --> 00:25:16,720
getting him prepared for the games. I think he does

495
00:25:16,759 --> 00:25:18,640
a good job with that. Just the development of the

496
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,799
strength staff. Those guys do a phenomenal job of getting

497
00:25:21,799 --> 00:25:23,279
the younger guys getting better and better.

498
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,079
Speaker 6: And then I think coach Fowler's done a really good.

499
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 7: Job with the safety So there's a process in place

500
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:30,759
that we have that helps with that.

501
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 6: And you've got to give a little credit to the coaches.

502
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 7: And a lot of credit to the players for buying

503
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:36,759
into what we're trying to get him to do.

504
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 2: Look, we tend to just give all the credit to

505
00:25:41,279 --> 00:25:43,640
Jay Hill because he's the defensive coordinator, but there are

506
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,519
guys doing tremendous work in the position groups.

507
00:25:46,559 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 3: Remember Gavin Fawlller. It's a name that you may not

508
00:25:49,319 --> 00:25:51,960
be familiar with. He's the son of.

509
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Speaker 2: Former b YU rate Blaine Fawler, the younger brother of

510
00:25:57,799 --> 00:26:00,720
Kellen who I played with, and so he's got a

511
00:26:00,799 --> 00:26:04,880
legacy of being a football player and being a part

512
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,200
of a football family. But Gavin's been putting in great

513
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,599
work in that safety room, getting guys ready, getting them

514
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,559
prep and making sure that they're executing at high level.

515
00:26:12,599 --> 00:26:15,359
And then coach g also deserves a ton of credit

516
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,359
as the passing defensive coordinator. And I was pulling up

517
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:24,519
PFF stats right because there's a lot of rhetoric surrounding,

518
00:26:25,559 --> 00:26:28,359
you know, comparing contrasting who's got the competitive advantage in

519
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:33,119
each position group. And Utah typically has produced high level

520
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,640
defensive backs, no doubt about it, good football players.

521
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,279
Speaker 3: They ended up in the National Football League.

522
00:26:39,039 --> 00:26:41,839
Speaker 2: The idea that the defensive backs of Utah better than

523
00:26:41,839 --> 00:26:43,160
b layers this year is interesting.

524
00:26:43,599 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 3: I pulled up PFF stats. These are the safety rankings

525
00:26:47,599 --> 00:26:48,359
per PFF.

526
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 2: Jackson Benny is the highest graded out of all the

527
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,839
safeties on either team at seventy six point seven, but

528
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,200
Volatiles Sotawala is at seventy four point one. Tanner wall

529
00:26:58,319 --> 00:27:00,000
is at seventy point six, so you have number two,

530
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,200
number three, tal Johnson's at number four at sixty three

531
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point seven, then Raider de Mooney at number five sixty

532
00:27:06,039 --> 00:27:10,079
three point three. Nate Tillman and Nate Richie are number

533
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,119
six and number seven, so it's actually pretty even in

534
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,559
the safety room per PFF. Do you know who the

535
00:27:15,599 --> 00:27:19,559
three highest graded corners are between these two teams?

536
00:27:20,599 --> 00:27:23,279
Speaker 3: Tall BYU play it. Let's go see you guys. Thanks

537
00:27:23,279 --> 00:27:24,880
for coming by, guys, appreciate you, guys.

538
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:30,279
Speaker 2: Tuning in Evan Johnson seventy four point two, Bomba sixty

539
00:27:30,319 --> 00:27:34,200
eight point eight, Alexander at sixty nine point one, and

540
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,839
then Will Smith Snowden at sixty four point seven. Oh interesting,

541
00:27:40,039 --> 00:27:42,160
Snowden's the fourth best per PFF.

542
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,799
Speaker 3: That's interesting, right, Yeah, I wouldn't have.

543
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,799
Speaker 1: I don't know, just I guess recently based to hear

544
00:27:48,839 --> 00:27:51,519
about Smith Nodan and his recruitment, and obviously there was

545
00:27:51,519 --> 00:27:53,519
all the talk during the offseason about the tambrey and

546
00:27:53,559 --> 00:27:57,039
all that, so I guess you just like, narrative wise

547
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,680
in your head, connotation wise, you're like, oh, Smith nodans

548
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,440
the death the best, but it's it's the.

549
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 2: Low hanging fruit, right, you know, just the supposition that

550
00:28:05,839 --> 00:28:09,200
they automatically put out better talent. Look, we're changing the

551
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,559
game right now, it's go you know, I mean post COVID,

552
00:28:13,279 --> 00:28:16,440
A lot of things have changed. We know that resources

553
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,960
have changed, development has changed, strengthen and additioning has changed,

554
00:28:20,039 --> 00:28:24,160
nutrition has changed. BYU is getting to a point where

555
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:29,960
depth and talent are equivalents to the University of Utah.

556
00:28:30,079 --> 00:28:34,000
But they had a fifteen almost a fifteen year head start, Brett.

557
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,920
And how quickly has BYU caught up to the mighty utes.

558
00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:39,279
Speaker 3: Of the North. Hasn't taken long.

559
00:28:39,519 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 2: Hasn't taken too long, no doubt about it. Let's get

560
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,799
back to the sound Jay Hill. Will we see more

561
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,759
Tao Seelee Akana? Given how well he played against U

562
00:28:49,839 --> 00:28:50,039
of A.

563
00:28:50,839 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 6: I sure hope.

564
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:51,559
Speaker 3: So.

565
00:28:52,079 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 7: You know, he's a dynamic player that we talked a

566
00:28:54,759 --> 00:28:57,559
lot about early in camp, and as he continues to

567
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,720
learn the defense, he should just get more and more.

568
00:29:02,039 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: So what I get sometimes from fans is like, well,

569
00:29:05,279 --> 00:29:09,440
he's the decordinator. He can decide that they're gonna play. Yeah,

570
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,279
within reason, guys, you do delegate to your position. Coaches right,

571
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,559
You They the position coaches on the field will many

572
00:29:18,599 --> 00:29:23,799
times decide who's in and who's out in key situations.

573
00:29:24,039 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 3: Okay, some of that is communicated by by Jay.

574
00:29:28,839 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 2: And sometimes it's executed by the coaching staff that's on

575
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:41,319
the field watching, evaluating fatigue, watching and evaluating performance. And

576
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,440
so I hope so means yeah, like I like seeing

577
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,200
them out there. Yeah, I'd like to see him employed more.

578
00:29:49,039 --> 00:29:52,519
But also like he's got to be better in the

579
00:29:52,599 --> 00:29:56,720
run game. Also, like he's if he wants to be

580
00:29:56,759 --> 00:29:59,839
in every down defensive end, he's gonna have to improve

581
00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:02,960
his ability to stay on the field to earn himself

582
00:30:03,119 --> 00:30:06,359
chances to be on the field, uh, for more opportunities.

583
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,359
So and we'll see what the coaching staff does. The

584
00:30:09,599 --> 00:30:13,400
OE coach defense Vea, says Kelly Popinga. And so if

585
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,480
it's a passing situation and it's obvious, you may see

586
00:30:16,519 --> 00:30:20,240
more Nuci Tamwaypayo as well as tau Celia Khana. Don't

587
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,720
don't sleep on number five Nusi. Nucy is a game changer.

588
00:30:23,799 --> 00:30:27,720
Lucy is a combination of Shilney Taki Taki, Fred Warner.

589
00:30:28,119 --> 00:30:30,599
Speaker 3: That's who he is. He's six three two forty five.

590
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,319
Speaker 2: That due's a beast that does he's a muster, he's

591
00:30:33,319 --> 00:30:35,440
a game changer for the defense. News has got the

592
00:30:35,559 --> 00:30:38,279
juice in my opinion, and tell see Lee.

593
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 3: Is right there with him now.

594
00:30:40,759 --> 00:30:44,759
Speaker 2: Has his biggest challenge in getting more playing time just

595
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:45,920
been learning the scheme.

596
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,279
Speaker 3: We're talking tau Cilia Khana.

597
00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:52,359
Speaker 7: That's everybody's challenge in this defense is just if we

598
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,000
have a flaw of myself, it's probably we get a

599
00:30:55,079 --> 00:30:59,039
little complicated at times, but that's everybody's challenges. It's hard

600
00:30:59,039 --> 00:31:00,400
to put him on the field to the ready to

601
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,559
go with understanding the scheme.

602
00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:12,559
Speaker 2: So yeah, look, he's readily admittedly so taking some some

603
00:31:12,839 --> 00:31:15,160
flak for that. He's saying, look like that we tend

604
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,839
to overcomplicate things, and and yeah, because a creative mind

605
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,720
such as Jay wants to be able to employ creative

606
00:31:22,759 --> 00:31:23,559
scheme and.

607
00:31:23,519 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 3: He wants it to be executed at a high level.

608
00:31:25,759 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 2: And he's alluded to this, guys, like he's alluded to

609
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,359
the fact that at b YU they're able to get

610
00:31:31,359 --> 00:31:35,240
a little bit more creative because of the retention the

611
00:31:35,279 --> 00:31:38,920
information that these young football players are able and capable

612
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,079
of retaining. We may have gotten our first Utah fan

613
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,920
with the red Oh yeah, go you, it's over here.

614
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,960
Shout out to all the you fans showing up as well,

615
00:31:47,359 --> 00:31:51,240
entering in to earn their chance to uh have a

616
00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:54,200
lifetime supply. Well, not a lifetime supply, a year's supply

617
00:31:54,359 --> 00:31:58,000
of Crumble cookies. All right, So let's get back to it.

618
00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:01,680
We know it's a cop Kidd's game. Jay Hill is

619
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,599
going to continue to employ that complicated game. But uh,

620
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,400
these young men at b YU, I think are built

621
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,599
a little bit different and can retain that information. Now,

622
00:32:11,119 --> 00:32:14,839
number seven, what have you seen in Cialia Sera's development?

623
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,559
Speaker 7: Well, again, I think Coachenna's done a really good job

624
00:32:17,599 --> 00:32:19,799
with and I think has done a great job of

625
00:32:19,799 --> 00:32:23,559
buying into what we've asked of him. There's a process

626
00:32:23,599 --> 00:32:25,960
in place, and I see cially just getting better and

627
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,119
better and better and better the.

628
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:27,839
Speaker 6: More he plays.

629
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,559
Speaker 7: And I think last game was a great indication of

630
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,880
where he's head and I think he's still scratching the

631
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,160
service on what he's going to become.

632
00:32:36,519 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really saw he took a big step in

633
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,960
the right direction. I don't think he's been fully healthy either,

634
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,519
like maximizing his.

635
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 3: His athletic ability since his a while.

636
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 2: I remember he was he's been injured, he came off,

637
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,000
he's coming off of a Liz Frank still and so like,

638
00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:58,480
I think this last game we saw the athleticism that

639
00:32:58,519 --> 00:33:01,000
we need to see going forwards. Gonna be good. He's

640
00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:04,279
gonna be great. He had sixteen tackles, he was gassed

641
00:33:04,279 --> 00:33:06,200
by the end of the game. He didn't miss one tackle,

642
00:33:06,359 --> 00:33:07,640
but he had multiple TFLs.

643
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:08,839
Speaker 3: He's getting better.

644
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,319
Speaker 2: He's getting better each and every week, and you're gonna

645
00:33:12,359 --> 00:33:15,400
need him to have a great game versus the Utes.

646
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,480
This is one of the biggest games, if not the

647
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,960
biggest game of his career, along with Jack Kelly and

648
00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:26,000
Isaiah Glasker. Now, what is your relationship, Jay with Kyle Whittingham.

649
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 6: Well, I love I love the guy. That's not a secret.

650
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,079
Speaker 7: He's been so influential in my life and in my

651
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,799
playing career and coaching career.

652
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 6: His family is amazing.

653
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 7: So yeah, I mean, I don't this is a weird

654
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,480
game because we're super competitive. We want to win like crazy,

655
00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:47,920
but we have tons of respect for those coaches up

656
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,319
there in their players.

657
00:33:51,079 --> 00:33:56,039
Speaker 2: Jay Hill, much respect as you know, as Kyle Whodeham

658
00:33:56,079 --> 00:33:58,400
had coached him up and then also brought him into

659
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,000
the fold up at the you as a coach, Right,

660
00:34:02,079 --> 00:34:08,039
there's a reason why Kyle brought in individuals such as

661
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:12,639
Jay and Morgan Scalley. They were tremendous football players, highly competitive,

662
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:17,280
they were leaders on the football field, and so there's

663
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,800
a tremendous amount of synergistic respect, like I still to

664
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:26,320
this day, like this is a competitive environment. He reps

665
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:30,039
the why now he mentioned that in the coordinator's corner.

666
00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:32,360
He's like, look like I you know, I'm on the

667
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:37,400
other side now and he's bought in. But there's also

668
00:34:37,519 --> 00:34:42,880
like this element of like, you know, his upbringing was

669
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,960
was in Salt Lake City, Like he grew up in

670
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,400
Salt Lake City as a ute. And there's a tremendous

671
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,400
amount of love and appreciation and respect because of that.

672
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 3: And I think you experienced that from the YU side.

673
00:34:58,159 --> 00:35:00,679
Speaker 2: There's a tremendous amount of love and a pre from

674
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,840
the BUYU side directed towards the University of Utah, there's

675
00:35:05,079 --> 00:35:06,800
no love and appreciation.

676
00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 3: I don't know, I haven't heard any quotes from.

677
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,519
Speaker 2: Jason back Marky after why because that's not a part

678
00:35:11,519 --> 00:35:13,960
of the culture up there.

679
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,079
Speaker 1: There's part of the When Jay Hill says it's not

680
00:35:16,199 --> 00:35:19,199
a secret that he has that relationship with Kyle whitting Him,

681
00:35:19,199 --> 00:35:21,199
my first thought is, well, he could have fooled me,

682
00:35:21,639 --> 00:35:24,800
because when I listen to the way and I understand, like,

683
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,559
you don't wanna show like you don't want to bring

684
00:35:29,559 --> 00:35:31,239
the stray dog home and name it, like you don't

685
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,000
want to show love if you don't have to.

686
00:35:33,119 --> 00:35:35,639
Speaker 3: I get all of that, but it.

687
00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: Almost just moves to a level where it's like, Hey,

688
00:35:38,039 --> 00:35:40,159
you hate everyone at the school and you hate everything

689
00:35:40,199 --> 00:35:42,199
about it, and then you hear people like Jay hilltalk

690
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,599
It's like, man, I have the best relationship with Kyle Whittingham,

691
00:35:44,639 --> 00:35:46,599
And I'm like, as a guy who's not in the

692
00:35:46,679 --> 00:35:50,000
room and who doesn't see everything, this is news to

693
00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:53,320
me because it seems as though Kyle hates everything and

694
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,400
everyone at that university. So it is cool to get

695
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,400
to peel back to curtin a little bit and learn

696
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,960
things about Kyle and this staff that the rest of

697
00:36:02,039 --> 00:36:03,880
us don't know from not being in the room.

698
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,679
Speaker 3: But I'm with you, Like for a rivalry that has.

699
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: So many, so much interconnectivity, so many families that are

700
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,760
on both sides, so many guys like Jay who went

701
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,320
to school one place now coach at the other place.

702
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,559
It's weird to me that there's so much hate and

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vitrio involved with it, because you see things like Ohio, Staton, Michigan.

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They don't have that, they have a massive rivalry, they

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don't have that much interconnectivity. But I feel like there's

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less hate in that rivalry than there is in this one,

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which I just find a little odd.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, it is interesting.

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Speaker 2: One last thing, Uh, Jay Hill, given that relationship you

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00:36:42,559 --> 00:36:44,840
have with Kyle, are you guys able to chop it

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up as friends after the game.

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Speaker 7: Well, you're gonna have one side super upset and one

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side super related, and so that makes it a little

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difficult after But before the game's absolutely and we meet

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at midfield as friends and colleagues.

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Speaker 6: But incredibly competitive.

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Speaker 3: Too, incredibly competitive. We'll chop it up a little bit

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before the game after the game.

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Speaker 2: Look, I mean, how did Kyle treat Kilani after last

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00:37:14,079 --> 00:37:14,599
year's game?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 3: Was it cordial? It was? Was it forced?

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Speaker 2: Like it's hard in a competitive environment, Yeah, to not

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00:37:24,679 --> 00:37:28,920
be petty. Now, Kilanie's a different human different human being,

725
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,599
like obviously very competitive, but.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I told you this story.

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Speaker 2: Like after the two thousand and seven game when we

728
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,199
beat Utah, I'm celebrated. I did like a round off

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00:37:39,199 --> 00:37:42,079
backflip over in the in the north end zone.

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Speaker 3: If you pull up the old film, you'll see me

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do it.

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Speaker 2: And then like the fans come storm and I'm celebrating

733
00:37:47,199 --> 00:37:49,480
with fans, and then all of a sudden, like I

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00:37:49,519 --> 00:37:52,639
don't know, maybe fifteen twenty seconds into the celebration, I

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00:37:52,679 --> 00:37:56,599
get a big old bear hug from Kilani. Shataki turns around,

736
00:37:56,639 --> 00:37:59,119
he says, I love you. I'm so proud of you, you.

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Speaker 3: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, he doesn't have to do that, Like

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that's Kilani for you, you know what I mean. Like

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00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,199
he did not need to go out there and run

741
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:08,719
up to me and give me a hug.

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Speaker 3: Out of all the people he could have given hudgs to, Like,

743
00:38:10,679 --> 00:38:12,639
he didn't need to do that. He did that. So

744
00:38:12,679 --> 00:38:14,480
it shows you what type of person Kloni is.

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00:38:14,519 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 2: Not everyone's built that way, nor should we expect everyone

746
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to be that way. In a competitive environment, you can

747
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,360
say people are classless, you can say they're petty, they're

748
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,719
petul Yeah, on hundred percent like that happens. You see

749
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,280
it all the time in church ball, you know, you

750
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,559
guys are says something.

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00:38:27,599 --> 00:38:30,039
Speaker 3: Come on, dude, true. You know you see Bishop and

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eldest goorn president and.

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00:38:32,079 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 2: You know, like you know, the the the the these

754
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,840
very spiritual men undercut. You know, they're the their brethren,

755
00:38:42,119 --> 00:38:44,000
you know, all the name of winning because they they

756
00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:45,199
need a competitive outlet.

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00:38:45,199 --> 00:38:48,559
Speaker 3: Anyway, it's hard not to be uh.

758
00:38:48,639 --> 00:38:51,599
Speaker 2: You know, competitive, and it's hard to like be gracious

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00:38:51,639 --> 00:38:52,519
after a loss.

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Speaker 3: So like obviously b YU tends to have.

761
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Speaker 2: Impost on them a higher standard and also internally they

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00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,199
have a higher standard how you're supposed to treat people

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00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,679
after those games. But we'll see what happens after this

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particular guys. Guys, this particular game, guys, We're live from

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and Puula Jared Puula.

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Speaker 3: And many more.

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Speaker 2: ESPN Live Show from Crumble in Pleasant Grove. Two zero

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two five West four fifty south. That's two zero eight

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five West four fifty south, Pleasant Grove, Utah.

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Speaker 3: We'll go to break.

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Speaker 2: Let's get stats on the flip side. This is Gugar Sports.

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One of three, nine ninety eight point three