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Speaker 4: This is the Cults of Conspiracy and my name's Jonathan.
Speaker 4: I'm Jacob god damn. Welcome back to the show. Julia
Speaker 4: from the Cosmic Peach podcast. How are you doing tonight?
Speaker 5: I'm doing great. Thanks so much for having me. I'm
Speaker 5: excited to catch up with you. Guys, it's been a minute.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, look for all the cult members that are wondering
Speaker 4: what the hell is a cult ex cosmic that comes
Speaker 4: out every Saturday if you haven't listened, it is because
Speaker 4: that is Julia holding it down for the Cult of
Speaker 4: Conspiracy on a Saturday. We have this kind of awesome
Speaker 4: plan to turn our podcast into this massive conspiracy network.
Speaker 4: That way, you know, every single day you got something
Speaker 4: new coming out, and you know it's it's it's nice
Speaker 4: also to be able to work with a bunch of
Speaker 4: other people who are doing deeper research, and you know,
Speaker 4: it's a big collaborative and that's kind of the tapestry
Speaker 4: that we're trying to build over here.
Speaker 1: No doubt, and especially because a lot of our listeners,
Speaker 1: a lot of our good cult members out there third
Speaker 1: eyes all the way open as we are.
Speaker 2: We realize that a lot.
Speaker 1: Of y'all drive for a living, and a lot of
Speaker 1: those jobs happen on weekends, they happen at odd hours.
Speaker 1: But for a lot of y'all, y'all are pretty much
Speaker 1: working three sixty five. And while you're on the road,
Speaker 1: you need things to listen to. So I mean, hey,
Speaker 1: we work for you, dear cult members. So we have
Speaker 1: had to have a little bit of a collaborative effort.
Speaker 1: But I think it's been a beautiful, beautiful collab thus
Speaker 1: far on all fronts.
Speaker 4: To be honest with you, Oh yeah, it's been working
Speaker 4: out really well. We've gotten a lot of positive reviews
Speaker 4: on our end about how everybody loves the extra shows,
Speaker 4: especially the Cosmic Peach and you just got done wrapping
Speaker 4: a series of episodes called uh Program to Kill and
Speaker 4: I know that the cult members are loving that.
Speaker 5: Well, thank you. I'm glad that they are. I like
Speaker 5: to basically do a bunch of condensed research on something
Speaker 5: and then put little mini series together, and I feel
Speaker 5: like it makes it more easily digestible for people when
Speaker 5: you don't just try to hammer it all in one
Speaker 5: episode or try to do like a super super long,
Speaker 5: drawn out like sixteen part series. I like to just
Speaker 5: do short, maybe four episode series, try to get as
Speaker 5: much information in there as I can, and then kind
Speaker 5: of like break up what topic that I'm talking about,
Speaker 5: and that keeps it interesting. Like the first series we
Speaker 5: touched on like in the Pedaphocracy, it was a lot
Speaker 5: of research I did on. We kind of talked about
Speaker 5: it last time, but like the mc martin preschool trials
Speaker 5: and pedophilia rings and Michael Lakino and SRA and then
Speaker 5: we kind of took a turn and we started diving
Speaker 5: into serial killers and their connections with the CIA, and
Speaker 5: it's all just weird and crazy. And then I ended
Speaker 5: the last series Program to Kill by tying in the
Speaker 5: occult aspect with a lot of these serial killers in
Speaker 5: the ties going all the way back to like Alistair Crowley,
Speaker 5: the Church of Scientology and all this stuff. So hopefully
Speaker 5: people are learning something and they're entertained, and I don't know,
Speaker 5: you guys are just as busy as I am, so
Speaker 5: sometimes we don't even get to really catch up on
Speaker 5: each other's work. But Program to Kill the series was
Speaker 5: based off of the book Program to Kill by David McGowan,
Speaker 5: and I'm a huge fan of his. I covered a
Speaker 5: lot of stuff about the Laurel Canyon after I read
Speaker 5: one of his books, and so I'm actually gonna take
Speaker 5: a little bit from Program to Kill for the next
Speaker 5: series that's coming up for December. But it's gonna be
Speaker 5: a little bit of that and a little bit of
Speaker 5: my own thing, because, as you know, conspiracies change on
Speaker 5: the daily, like we learn new things all the time
Speaker 5: and then it's not what you thought it was. And
Speaker 5: so David mc yeah, and David McGowan he died like
Speaker 5: in the nineties at some point or early two thousands
Speaker 5: of you know, some weird strange CIA type cancer, so
Speaker 5: he wasn't able to continue his research. But there's a
Speaker 5: lot of good bones for people to base their research
Speaker 5: off of. And you know, breaking if you guys have
Speaker 5: any questions about the series or anything, but so far,
Speaker 5: I'm kind of like trying to show chronological order of
Speaker 5: how things have gotten so fucked up as they are.
Speaker 5: You know, started with like the Franklin scandal and pedophilia
Speaker 5: rings and all this stuff, and it's serial killers and
Speaker 5: it's Laurel Canyon and it's everything. And if people think
Speaker 5: it's changed since the nineties in the two thousands, it
Speaker 5: obviously hasn't. If anything, has just gotten worse and it's
Speaker 5: more blatantly obvious. But that's what these series are kind
Speaker 5: of doing, is like why why are we where we
Speaker 5: are right now? And it's kind of easy to follow
Speaker 5: the breadcrumbs if you look back at it and kind
Speaker 5: of see like, oh, well, this person was involved in
Speaker 5: this in this person and the media lies about everything.
Speaker 5: It wants to terrify you. It sensationalizes certain serial killers,
Speaker 5: and it sensationalizes certain things, and then you know, it
Speaker 5: terrifies people into thinking that there's like Son of Sam's
Speaker 5: running around everywhere. But then you look and it's like, well,
Speaker 5: son of Sam. They have proven time and again that
Speaker 5: he didn't act alone. There was probably multiple assailants with
Speaker 5: the Son of Sam murders. Same actually with Richard Ramirez.
Speaker 5: They have proven time and again that there was multiple
Speaker 5: people involved in the assaults that Richard Ramirez is responsible for.
Speaker 5: But they all put it on him right, like it's
Speaker 5: just him that was doing it, and I don't know's
Speaker 5: it's crazy, And I think it's important for people to
Speaker 5: see that even something as basic as like a serial
Speaker 5: killer could have ties going all the way back to
Speaker 5: these secret military programming Like I don't know if they
Speaker 5: were camps or what they were, but Henry Lee Lucas
Speaker 5: said that he and Otis Toole, who are notorious serial killers,
Speaker 5: were trained by these governments camp weird programming centers to
Speaker 5: become serial killers. And they write about it in their
Speaker 5: biography and it's like people just look right past that. Well,
Speaker 5: they were just crazy people. They were just psycho serial killers.
Speaker 5: We shouldn't pay any attention to anything that they say,
Speaker 5: but they will tell you out of their own mouths, Yeah,
Speaker 5: we were trained to do this.
Speaker 3: It's crazy, dude, that is nuts.
Speaker 4: And like I try and understand the psychology behind why
Speaker 4: the government, the CIA, the FBI, the deep state, whoever
Speaker 4: you want to call them, maybe it's the Illuminati. Who
Speaker 4: knows why on a psychological level would they try to
Speaker 4: train somebody to be a serial killer.
Speaker 3: Is it like a.
Speaker 4: Trained assassin gone wrong or gone rogue? Could it possibly
Speaker 4: be that they're trying to train the serial killer to
Speaker 4: spread fear amongst everybody. Don't let your kids run outside
Speaker 4: without a parent, or you know, you got to make
Speaker 4: sure your kids have a cell phone or some kind
Speaker 4: of tracking device on them, because not only you, like,
Speaker 4: you're not the only one that has a tracking device
Speaker 4: on them.
Speaker 3: So I mean those that that.
Speaker 4: Same information goes right back to, you know, like the
Speaker 4: cell phone companies, which are then being also read by
Speaker 4: the government agencies and everything. And so it's almost like
Speaker 4: they're really trying to keep an eye on everybody, and
Speaker 4: and the way that they do so is by spreading
Speaker 4: that fear. It's it's a lot like and I bring
Speaker 4: this up all the time, but it's a lot like
Speaker 4: The Sound of Freedom.
Speaker 3: You know, like that that was something really fucked up
Speaker 3: that went on.
Speaker 4: But what they promoted at the end of that movie, well,
Speaker 4: I will always look at that movie with a very
Speaker 4: slantid eye because what that gentleman was trying to promote
Speaker 4: was tracking devices in your fucking kids. And I'll be
Speaker 4: damned if my kid has any kind of tracking device
Speaker 4: on them.
Speaker 3: I don't even want my kids.
Speaker 4: Having like a cell phone or a like an iPad.
Speaker 4: Or anything like that, especially I mean, I guess it's
Speaker 4: one thing if it's at home, but like I don't
Speaker 4: want my kid like constantly, you know, having a some
Speaker 4: kind of device to where they can be tracked and
Speaker 4: talked to and all that kind of shit whenever I'm
Speaker 4: not around, like if they're ever at their friend's house
Speaker 4: or something like that.
Speaker 3: And I just think that this.
Speaker 4: Is a deep, deep, like plot by the government to
Speaker 4: have eyes on absolutely everybody so that eventually, like you
Speaker 4: just kind of give up your rights to the government.
Speaker 4: And I think that that is ultimately their plan, all right.
Speaker 1: Me and you have very differing opinions on this one, brother,
Speaker 1: because at one point I thought about chipping my children,
Speaker 1: Like legitimately, I thought about you ever seen spy kids,
Speaker 1: Remember that that part where they found out their molars
Speaker 1: were like actually chips that their parents were using their
Speaker 1: track the when only their parents had that. I legitimately
Speaker 1: looked into that if that was real technology, because this
Speaker 1: is a really fucked up world.
Speaker 2: We live in, bro.
Speaker 1: And that's just me now I understand, because everything is
Speaker 1: hackable and everything has a backdoor, and this is why
Speaker 1: I have never done that.
Speaker 2: But I'm I would be lying to you if I.
Speaker 1: Said that as a parent, I hadn't seriously considered that
Speaker 1: at one point.
Speaker 2: Neither here nor there, Jacob.
Speaker 3: Every every I swear, there's almost every point in every
Speaker 3: episode where I look at you and I think, is
Speaker 3: this motherfucker actually a fed? Like, like am I am? I?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 3: Are you my handle? What is going on? Whatever you say?
Speaker 3: You want to you wanna chip your fucking kids so
Speaker 3: the government can spy on them?
Speaker 1: What the fuck knows so that I can and the government, Well,
Speaker 1: that's why I haven't because I know that there's back
Speaker 1: doors and nothing's ever actually encrypted. So that's why I've
Speaker 1: never chipped them. But what JAB have considered it?
Speaker 5: Where in the body would you be okay with the
Speaker 5: chip to their tooth?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Like where do you draw the line though? Like what
Speaker 5: if they're like, we're gonna put it in their ass,
Speaker 5: We're in their face, their neck, They're just that just
Speaker 5: the tooth.
Speaker 1: That was the only ever consideration that I would ever
Speaker 1: even let go in my mind because I was looking
Speaker 1: to see for like dental surgeries, they have people that
Speaker 1: drill out and put threads so that they can thread
Speaker 1: in vampire teeth and shit. As a just a far
Speaker 1: the fuck of its surgery. So I was just curious
Speaker 1: if it's possible to deaden a nerve in the back
Speaker 1: drill out put a tracker in it, and then you know,
Speaker 1: cement over it.
Speaker 2: And I am the only one that has that. I
Speaker 2: was curious.
Speaker 1: I looked into it, and while that technology does exist,
Speaker 1: a super expensive, b fucking crazy to do that to
Speaker 1: a child, right, and then see and I get balloons
Speaker 1: on that one. So yeah, again it's crazy to do
Speaker 1: this to a child, agreed, which is why it's not done.
Speaker 1: But also because I know the real world and that
Speaker 1: this could be tracked by other people, So I have
Speaker 1: never done it.
Speaker 4: How about the connection between oral healthcare and the brain function?
Speaker 4: So you want to replace a tooth with a tracking
Speaker 4: device that would ultimately just lead back up to the brain.
Speaker 4: Just want to throw that out there.
Speaker 1: Once again, I have not done it. I've said that
Speaker 1: like multiple times. But again, yes, I thought about it
Speaker 1: at one point because yeah, dude, child abductions really happen
Speaker 1: every day, and at that moment, and heaven forbid that
Speaker 1: moment ever happens. Yeah, I wish I had an ability
Speaker 1: to pull up my phone and see exactly where their
Speaker 1: body is at.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's like that.
Speaker 4: That sounds like a calcified pinial gland thought, sir, I'm
Speaker 4: not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 1: No, dude, this is the real world we live in.
Speaker 1: Kids really do get abducted. That's not calcified pineal gland.
Speaker 1: That's being a realist.
Speaker 5: Well. I never want to get in the middle between
Speaker 5: you two, especially when you're you know, at such odds.
Speaker 5: But I will say I see both sides because I mean,
Speaker 5: obviously I don't want to put a tracker and my
Speaker 5: kid is like synonymous with like people who chip their
Speaker 5: dogs and stuff. It's like, oh, you know, let me
Speaker 5: take my kid to the vet and fucking get a
Speaker 5: chip put in their ear.
Speaker 3: Like, I get it.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't want to ship my kid. But at the
Speaker 5: same time, I covered like all this stuff. And I
Speaker 5: can't remember. I think it was Uncle Sam about the
Speaker 5: Finders Club, and they're called that for a reason. I mean,
Speaker 5: that's not just like a cute name that they came
Speaker 5: up with, and like they would go to playgrounds and
Speaker 5: these places and they find these kids and then you know,
Speaker 5: they shove them in the back of a van and
Speaker 5: they take them to Mexico and they sell them like
Speaker 5: your kids, my kids, anybody's kids. If they're alone for
Speaker 5: a millisecond, they they can have this happens to them.
Speaker 1: And I'm alone, not even alone in Baton Rouge right
Speaker 1: near us. As a matter of fact, that a target.
Speaker 1: I personally know a woman whose children have almost been
Speaker 1: taken from her twice while she was with them. Thankfully
Speaker 1: she carries. But like, that's real shit. This isn't like
Speaker 1: the means either. This is Baton Rouge, which, come to
Speaker 1: find out, is the new murder capital of America.
Speaker 2: Neither here or there though, So I.
Speaker 5: Guess if it were me, like if I was let's
Speaker 5: just say, like I took my kids to the Why
Speaker 5: and they got fucking abducted or some shit like that,
Speaker 5: would I want to know exactly where they were and
Speaker 5: how to find them. Yeah, I will, But I also
Speaker 5: feel like, what, at what point do that You chip
Speaker 5: your kid and they're just like, yeah, we're turning your
Speaker 5: chip off, and they fucking electric cute your fucking brain
Speaker 5: or some shit, and they kill you. Anyways, It's such
Speaker 5: a Faustian bargain because you want to be able to
Speaker 5: protect your kids, but at the same time, you don't
Speaker 5: want technology inserted into their body like exactly Terminator Kids
Speaker 5: or some shit like that. But I don't know, guys,
Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's it's crazy.
Speaker 2: I looked into this years ago.
Speaker 1: This is way before Sound of Freedom, way before chipping
Speaker 1: your kids was ever like a talking point. I looked
Speaker 1: into this back in twenty fourteen, just so we're clear,
Speaker 1: because of the Spy Kids movie and because I now
Speaker 1: had a child, I was curious as fuck if this
Speaker 1: was a thing.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I looked into it.
Speaker 4: Don't you think they put out movies like that to
Speaker 4: insert ideas into certain parents' heads.
Speaker 1: Spy Kids, Yeah, I absolutely believe they put out that
Speaker 1: movie to teach parents to train their killers, their children
Speaker 1: to be super secret spies.
Speaker 4: No, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the
Speaker 4: fucking tracking device.
Speaker 2: That was one tidbit.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, sometimes these things are you know, they
Speaker 4: just throw certain things in movie.
Speaker 3: We know that they do that, all right.
Speaker 1: Aside from the chip thing, Aside from the whole chipping
Speaker 1: of kids and stuff. To your other point about what, Jonathan,
Speaker 1: So your the point about why these trained assassin types
Speaker 1: are like why would they mk ult somebody who could
Speaker 1: then go on to be a serial killer or something
Speaker 1: like that. And you're right, there's a couple of different
Speaker 1: ideas that come to mind, Like, okay, and we've seen Zoolander,
Speaker 1: remember when they were training him to kill the.
Speaker 2: Malaysian Prime Minister.
Speaker 1: Yes, that was a comedy movie, ha ha, except on
Speaker 1: the real levels of training somebody who's like a sleeper agent.
Speaker 2: What was that movie? Uh not Ultra Violet? Was it American?
Speaker 1: Yes, something along those lines that there's a sleeper agent
Speaker 1: who's living a whole life somewhere that when said a
Speaker 1: certain phrase, could like enact his training and go do
Speaker 1: a thing he was brainwashed to go do. And then
Speaker 1: whenever he dies, because of course he will. Oh he
Speaker 1: was the fall guy?
Speaker 2: And who was he?
Speaker 1: Some guy that worked at a gas station who just
Speaker 1: lost his mind one day, some kid from Butler, Pennsylvania
Speaker 1: that just like decided to climb on a.
Speaker 2: Roof one day.
Speaker 1: Look, there's possibilities to that, right, But then you see
Speaker 1: the serial killers and these cult leader types, and it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: was that one of these mk ultra types that went
Speaker 1: rogue and it went awry? Or was that the entire
Speaker 1: point of the MK ultra was so that he would
Speaker 1: do serial killers shit, right, it was a push that agenda.
Speaker 1: There's I think there's multiple levels all happening at the
Speaker 1: same time.
Speaker 5: But the thing is absolutely right about that though, because
Speaker 5: they do so. A lot of them say that the
Speaker 5: training programs that they went through to become like trained
Speaker 5: as sounds and serial killers, they're also like ran by
Speaker 5: cults and there they become part of cults. Like Henry
Speaker 5: Lee Lucas said that he was part of that training program.
Speaker 5: They trained him to be a serial killer, but he
Speaker 5: was also in this death cult called the Hand of
Speaker 5: Death Cult. And I don't know if you guys remember this.
Speaker 5: You probably don't because it was so long ago. But
Speaker 5: one of the first episodes that we did together, I
Speaker 5: talked about Adolpho Constanzo. He was like a cult leader
Speaker 5: in Mexico and he had all these people like boiled
Speaker 5: in pots and like buried alive, and there was this
Speaker 5: ranch in Mexico and there's just bodies everywhere, and he
Speaker 5: was making like skeleton necklaces and shit. Well, he was
Speaker 5: also a cult leader but also involved in politics and
Speaker 5: like all this stuff, and like people were murdering for
Speaker 5: him bodies everywhere, and like you come to find out
Speaker 5: he faked his death and they let him run loose
Speaker 5: and like all this stuff. And most of the time
Speaker 5: when you look at some of these serial killers and
Speaker 5: like the sentences they get, or like how they're released
Speaker 5: on parole retardedly early, or they're you know, they get
Speaker 5: like special treatment and shit, they're usually protected from on high,
Speaker 5: either by these cults or by the government or whoever,
Speaker 5: because they're actually under the employer doing the bidding of
Speaker 5: someone other than themselves. They would love for you to
Speaker 5: believe that a lot of serial killers act out of
Speaker 5: their own free will, but most of them don't. It's
Speaker 5: like Jacob says, they're like trained and then they just
Speaker 5: give them like a code word or something, or like
Speaker 5: a trigger phrase, and then they can set these people
Speaker 5: loose and they just do all this shit. And I
Speaker 5: don't know if they have a memory of doing it,
Speaker 5: that's up for debate, but they are literally programmed to kill.
Speaker 5: It's crazy, yeah.
Speaker 3: It seems like it. And you know, the two that
Speaker 3: come to my mind would be, uh, Jim Morrison of
Speaker 3: the Doors, his dad was what was he he was
Speaker 3: a United States Well that's the going thing is that
Speaker 3: a lot of people think that it was CIA.
Speaker 4: Maybe he was, but at least what I'm finding here
Speaker 4: is that his dad, George, was a US Navy rear
Speaker 4: admiral and Navy naval aviator.
Speaker 5: He was responsible for the Gulf of Tonkin incident.
Speaker 1: Right, yes, there, Okay, there's the CIA plug.
Speaker 2: Which, yeah, if.
Speaker 1: You follow the trail of breadcrumbs on that one, how
Speaker 1: many of these Naval Intel officers just happened to be
Speaker 1: high ranking CIA officials like instantaneously upon the retirement.
Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah, dude.
Speaker 4: Well then you get over to fucking Charles Manson, like
Speaker 4: one hundred percent CIA mind controlled shit that was going
Speaker 4: on with him, where he was basically feeding all of
Speaker 4: his cult followers like LSD and everything and getting them
Speaker 4: to carry out all their murders for him. And it's like,
Speaker 4: you know, like obviously this kind of stuff, Obviously, this
Speaker 4: kind of stuff has happened.
Speaker 3: It's not above any kind of three letter agency.
Speaker 4: It's not above you know, anything to do with whoever
Speaker 4: is in power within our government that is instructing these
Speaker 4: programs to carry out said, you know, acts and stuff
Speaker 4: like that. But it's like, yeah, of course, like this
Speaker 4: stuff happens. I don't even think that there's any kind
Speaker 4: of question. My question would be to just kind of
Speaker 4: to reiterate is like, you know, why, what is the
Speaker 4: first question?
Speaker 5: And actually, before I tried to answer that, I guess
Speaker 5: this would be a good time to say that the
Speaker 5: new series that's going to be coming out in December
Speaker 5: and probably into January is about Charles Manson and it's
Speaker 5: so crazy that you brought that up because it is
Speaker 5: going to be more focused on him. I'm still debating
Speaker 5: on what I'm gonna call the new series. I wanted
Speaker 5: to call it like All in the Family, but that
Speaker 5: sounds like a horrible, shitty sitcom. So I'm thinking of
Speaker 5: like The flood Ties or something, I don't know, something
Speaker 5: like that. But he has such an interesting history. He's
Speaker 5: so you know, enmeshed with the Laurel Canyon scene and
Speaker 5: see factory. Dude, It's that's a good one.
Speaker 2: Charlie and the murder Factory.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good one. Actually. But yeah, he has
Speaker 5: his hand in everything, Like he's in multiple gangs, multiple cults.
Speaker 5: He's kind of pops up everywhere and he is like Cia,
Speaker 5: he's you know that. But that's gonna kind of be
Speaker 5: the new series. I'm gonna focus on that and a
Speaker 5: couple of big serial killers that I didn't get to
Speaker 5: spend a lot of time on, like the Jeffrey Dahmers
Speaker 5: and the Ted Bundy's in the Program to Kill series.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna hit a little bit harder in the new
Speaker 5: series because it's all Cia and it's all you know,
Speaker 5: it's all under the same umbrella. But as to answer
Speaker 5: your question as to why they do this, a lot
Speaker 5: of these serial killers they mix a bunch of random
Speaker 5: murders of innocent people who have no there was no
Speaker 5: reason for them to have to have died with a
Speaker 5: bunch of like people they're trying to take out. So
Speaker 5: you know how they mix a bunch of lies with
Speaker 5: a little bit of truth. It's the same thing. They'll
Speaker 5: go and they'll take one of these serial killers quote unquote,
Speaker 5: and they'll kill like a bunch of random innocent people,
Speaker 5: and then they'll kill like two or three people they
Speaker 5: really wanted to get, and so it confuses people, it
Speaker 5: terrifies people, and I think you know, as far as
Speaker 5: like looking at the Zodiac Killer and the Son of Sam,
Speaker 5: there were a few people that were just totally random,
Speaker 5: like the taxi driver or you know, just some random
Speaker 5: shit like this, and then there's like a pocket of
Speaker 5: people who have interesting connections or ties or may have
Speaker 5: known something about like they they shouldn't have known, like
Speaker 5: a kind of like an assassination, but not because you
Speaker 5: wouldn't know that they were a government like spy or
Speaker 5: something like that. But they end up being a Zodiac victim,
Speaker 5: or they end up being a son of Sam victim,
Speaker 5: or you know, and then there's like a bunch of
Speaker 5: random people that die, so they have to almost make
Speaker 5: it look random so you don't pick up on the
Speaker 5: scent that these people are just getting assassinated. And that's
Speaker 5: why there are a lot of people who say the
Speaker 5: set of Sam killings were multiple assailants, not just David Berkowitz.
Speaker 5: And the same thing with Richard Ramirez. There's evidence to
Speaker 5: suggest that there were multiple people doing that and not
Speaker 5: just Richard Dramirez. But you find a crazy enough guy,
Speaker 5: you brainwash him enough, he will happily take credit for
Speaker 5: all of the murders. Because it's like the guy who
Speaker 5: shot John Lennon. It's like they're fifteen minutes of fame.
Speaker 5: They get to be the big serial killer at the
Speaker 5: end of the story that everybody's scared of, and it's like, oh,
Speaker 5: they'll go down in fucking history is being this infamous
Speaker 5: person who fucking murdered John Lennon, you know, But really
Speaker 5: they're just a crazy psychopath person that got programmed. I
Speaker 5: actually think the guy that killed John Lennon may have
Speaker 5: been programmed as well, because I mean.
Speaker 1: Look at is that a jail now, isn't he He
Speaker 1: got out a few years ago.
Speaker 5: I think I saw something about that. Maybe I don't
Speaker 5: remember Google it, Jonathan.
Speaker 1: I forget if it was him or the guy who
Speaker 1: shot Reagan. Also, I think he's out of jail too
Speaker 1: now think about it.
Speaker 7: Huh.
Speaker 4: No, John Lennon's killer, David or Mark David Chapman, is
Speaker 4: not out of jail. It says that Chapman was was
Speaker 4: denied parole for the twelfth time in August of twenty
Speaker 4: twenty two, and his next parole hearing is scheduled for
Speaker 4: February twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: Oh, February twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: That's that's hardy, And maybe that's what I had heard
Speaker 1: about or something that was coming.
Speaker 5: Maybe it came up because his parole came up. I
Speaker 5: don't I wonder if he was if he was denied
Speaker 5: or not.
Speaker 4: Damn hmm, yeah, there's nothing new on that, Like all
Speaker 4: these articles are older, and that's even that was saying
Speaker 4: that his parole wasn't until twenty February twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: But that's already fucking that's past.
Speaker 2: Maybe he's hot.
Speaker 4: Maybe he said no he's not out. It said no,
Speaker 4: he's not out, but that was saying it was saying that, no,
Speaker 4: he's not out. His next parole was February twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: We're that was the Google AI.
Speaker 1: Yeah, was he released? And Google AI is now changing
Speaker 1: the narrative.
Speaker 2: Dog, I have no idea.
Speaker 5: I just mentioned something really quick and then I want
Speaker 5: to mention something else because Thanksgiving is right around the corner,
Speaker 5: and I googled it and Google is fucking a lie
Speaker 5: because do you guys not remember Thanksgiving falling on the
Speaker 5: third Thursday of the month, Like you had to count
Speaker 5: to the third Thursday and be like, that's when Thanksgiving is.
Speaker 6: Going to be.
Speaker 4: I yeah, I always thought that that's when it was.
Speaker 4: It's the fourth now, isn't it.
Speaker 5: Yeah? And I googled it because I was being a
Speaker 5: smart ass, and I was like, no, Thanksgiving's always the
Speaker 5: third Thursday of the month. And then I googled it
Speaker 5: and it's like Thanksgiving falls on the last Thursday of November.
Speaker 5: I'm like, since fucking win, because I remember it always
Speaker 5: being the third.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I assumed too, because we were, you know,
Speaker 4: trying to schedule a bunch of things, you know, in
Speaker 4: advance for the show and everything, and I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: third Thursday is Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3: And then I look and I was like, the twenty eighth.
Speaker 3: That can't be the third one, right.
Speaker 5: And then you google it and it says the last
Speaker 5: fucking Thursday of the month. I was like, since fucking win.
Speaker 5: This is a real life Mandela And I even texted
Speaker 5: my cousin chat and I was like, hey, guys, don't
Speaker 5: you all remember Thanksgiving being the third fucking Thursday of
Speaker 5: the month And they were all like, yeah, the third Thursday.
Speaker 5: I'm like, appairly, not like this is this is just
Speaker 5: for this year, I guess.
Speaker 1: But then they changed Google to say it's always fall
Speaker 1: on the last which is mm hmm. And that's all
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think because I thought it was the
Speaker 1: third Thursday as well, And I'm trying to straw man
Speaker 1: myself here and think, like, I know, I get that
Speaker 1: confused with my August retreat is usually the third weekend
Speaker 1: of August, and like, I'm thinking, am I confusing the two?
Speaker 1: But it's like, no, No, the third Thursday has always
Speaker 1: been Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3: Do you want to see something funny? Look at this?
Speaker 3: What so?
Speaker 4: I just last year, all I typed in was why
Speaker 4: isn't Thanksgiving? And the first option is on the third
Speaker 4: Thursday this year.
Speaker 5: Literally, I'm okay, you guys. I'm telling you guys. Google
Speaker 5: tries to brainwash people. I almost don't like people to
Speaker 5: google stuff anymore because I'll be like, oh, just google it,
Speaker 5: and I'm like, well, maybe not, because they could prove
Speaker 5: me fucking wrong and I could still be right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it says right here, Thanksgiving the third Thursday of
Speaker 3: the month. Question mark. It says.
Speaker 4: My roommate and I were just talking about whether Thanksgiving
Speaker 4: falls on the third or fourth Thursday of November. We
Speaker 4: both distinctly remember it being the third Thursday. I always
Speaker 4: remember this because my old roommate's birthday was the twenty third,
Speaker 4: so it was always rate near Thanksgiving, but everything we
Speaker 4: look up says that it's always been the fourth, and
Speaker 4: there's already Google links for a Mandela effect of this.
Speaker 5: Oh shit, I'm telling you. I'm telling you. You know
Speaker 5: why too, because my birthday is November thirtieth, and I
Speaker 5: always remember Thanksgiving being about a week before my birthday,
Speaker 5: not like a day before my birthday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a few days.
Speaker 4: It says, we are currently mind blown trying to figure
Speaker 4: out which universe we're in.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. So like when I tell people
Speaker 5: I'm filthy on.
Speaker 2: A fucking calendar, there's no way I know.
Speaker 5: I feel like, yeah, I'll be like, oh, you should
Speaker 5: just Google it, and then they'll google it and Google
Speaker 5: say some crazy shit, and I'm like, yeah, you can't
Speaker 5: even trust fucking Google anymore. It's all fucking Mandela, fucking brainwash, bullshit.
Speaker 5: I don't trust it at all.
Speaker 1: Check this out it No, we're correct, we are correct.
Speaker 2: Last year was on the twenty fucking fifth. They had a.
Speaker 1: Whole other week and a whole other Thursday after that
Speaker 1: last November.
Speaker 4: Well, it says right here looking at Britannica, which is
Speaker 4: the encyclopedia site. But it says by federal law. Americans
Speaker 4: have celebrated Thanksgiving on the fourth Thursday in November since
Speaker 4: nineteen forty two.
Speaker 1: My ass, my November. Oh shit, last November had a
Speaker 1: fifth week. No, whoa, I'm looking the year prior. I'm
Speaker 1: looking the year prior. Hold on, give me, give me
Speaker 1: a second here, Okay, No, the twenty four No, it's bullshit. Shit.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, you never know what universe are going
Speaker 5: to be in when you start googling stuff. Because the
Speaker 5: guy who shot John Lennon could have got out six
Speaker 5: years ago for all we fucking know.
Speaker 1: I was saying, like, yo, are we living in another
Speaker 1: Mandela effect? Like happening irl right now? Like, oh, that's happening,
Speaker 1: that's right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, November of twenty twenty three had five thursdays, So
Speaker 4: even though it was on the twenty third, it was
Speaker 4: the fourth Thursday.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at a calendar right now.
Speaker 1: That's bullshit what I'm telling you.
Speaker 5: I don't I've always remembered it being on the third Thursday.
Speaker 5: But I guess I should be wrong.
Speaker 3: But Mandela effects are real. Jacob, All right, explain your
Speaker 3: way out of this one, Jacob, you don't believe in
Speaker 3: Mandela effex.
Speaker 5: Right now, do you not believe in Mandela effects?
Speaker 1: Jacob explanation possible, But I believe that most of them
Speaker 1: can be explained away pretty logically.
Speaker 2: This one is one that I can't explain. You're gonna
Speaker 2: be honest.
Speaker 5: What about the guy that used to give out checks.
Speaker 5: That's a big one that people always bring up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, publisher clearing House.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that he always came with the big check and
Speaker 5: he was like, nah, I never did that.
Speaker 2: Wait he's saying he never did that. Yeah.
Speaker 5: See, that's a big one that people bring up and
Speaker 5: they're like, I always remember watching TV and that guy
Speaker 5: showed up with the big check, and now he's saying
Speaker 5: he never fucking gave a fucking checkout in his life.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I know I was, And dude, I remember
Speaker 4: watching the infomercials on that ship where he was knocking
Speaker 4: at somebody's door.
Speaker 3: I got this big check in and the people were
Speaker 3: all surprised. Oh my god, I can't believe I want.
Speaker 4: And that they're saying that that never happened. That is hilarious.
Speaker 5: It's like a black guy or something. Now that you said,
Speaker 5: what the checks out? I don't I want to remember that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's okay, Wow, that's I don't even think
Speaker 1: that's a Mandela effect. I think your boy is just lying.
Speaker 2: To be honest.
Speaker 5: I don't know. Maybe he's embarrassed of it. He's like,
Speaker 5: I'm not the guy that passed out the big checks.
Speaker 5: Fuck that guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but no.
Speaker 5: This have gone to bigger and better things in his career.
Speaker 5: But anyways, that was a huge size tangent.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I believe in possible Mandela effects. Yes, do
Speaker 1: I believe in multiple dimensions going on at the same time, Yes,
Speaker 1: other timelines possibly.
Speaker 2: I don't put a lot of thought into it.
Speaker 1: But like the Bear Stain versus Behrenstein Bears, right, is
Speaker 1: it possible that a misprint run went out and like
Speaker 1: we're talking thousands, right, and they went to another country
Speaker 1: that's not America, Like wouldn't have mattered. Somehow one of
Speaker 1: those books came back and everybody's losing their shit about this.
Speaker 2: I think that's in the realm of possibility.
Speaker 4: I think that that beresin Berenstein Berenstein Bear is one
Speaker 4: that one's kind at least from my opinion, I do
Speaker 4: remember it being.
Speaker 3: Berenstein Bears personally.
Speaker 4: But I could understand how people would mess that up
Speaker 4: because the way they sing that song is in a
Speaker 4: country accent, so whenever you're listening to it, it's the
Speaker 4: Berenstain Bears right like, so you think that it's saying
Speaker 4: steam because it's country, but it's really just how they're
Speaker 4: saying it.
Speaker 5: I actually have something, and I was surprised because I
Speaker 5: thought it was spelled the one way and it was whatever.
Speaker 5: But my sister sent me this picture of me when
Speaker 5: I was a baby. I think I was like one
Speaker 5: years old and I was wearing a Berenstein Bears overalls
Speaker 5: and it said it spelled it and it had like
Speaker 5: a picture of the family, you know, the Berenstein Bears
Speaker 5: on it and I and I zoomed in on it
Speaker 5: and it was like Baron stay yeah, And I was like,
Speaker 5: I just never remember it being that, but there it was.
Speaker 4: And also and also it was spelled in cursive too,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like it wasn't like so
Speaker 4: obvious because some people would they write their cursive. It's
Speaker 4: you know, it's a little off sometimes.
Speaker 1: And then Mandela himself, Barney Mandela, the guy who they
Speaker 1: said died in the sixties, but then he died in
Speaker 1: the nineties. How that whole story spun into the thing,
Speaker 1: and like, yeah, it makes sense to me that one
Speaker 1: story went out nobody ever checked in on it or
Speaker 1: validated if it was true or not. Next thing, you know,
Speaker 1: a couple decades later, he's like leading the country and
Speaker 1: he dies. It's like, wait, what the hell I thought
Speaker 1: it was? And it was like a miscommunication. I could
Speaker 1: believe that, But there's other ones that I can't really
Speaker 1: easily explain away.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: This Thanksgiving one is a new one for me because
Speaker 1: now I'm really questioning my own sanity.
Speaker 2: And it's like, okay, last Thursday of the month, is
Speaker 2: it the fourth Thursday?
Speaker 1: I sure shit thought it was the third Thursday, because
Speaker 1: like that's a whole.
Speaker 2: Thing because and I'll tell you why else.
Speaker 1: We we look at our day to day, our downloads
Speaker 1: and stuff like that on spreaker and everything, so like
Speaker 1: I know for a fact there was a whole week
Speaker 1: last year, but then I just looked at the calendar
Speaker 1: and I saw that. So that's even got me questioning
Speaker 1: my shit even more. Not gonna lie, not really calm dude.
Speaker 4: So I like my most memorable Thanksgiving that I remember,
Speaker 4: like as a little kid. I just looked up the
Speaker 4: date on it. It's kind of blowing my damn mind
Speaker 4: here now. But my most We always watch football on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 4: It's an American tradition, and so there was one it
Speaker 4: just so happened to me in nineteen ninety eight. I
Speaker 4: didn't know was that that fuck that long ago, but
Speaker 4: it was the Steelers versus the Lions and Jerome Bettis.
Speaker 4: It was like it was going into overtime and Jerome
Speaker 4: Bettis was out on field to call the coin toss
Speaker 4: or whatever, and he said one thing, the referee heard
Speaker 4: another thing, and so whenever it came down, the referee
Speaker 4: like he turned it over and Drumbas was like, yes, yes,
Speaker 4: we won, and the referee is like, no, I heard tales.
Speaker 3: And he was like, no, I said heads. I said heads.
Speaker 4: Anyway, long story short, the fucking Lions ended up kicking
Speaker 4: a field goal and winning the game. That was like
Speaker 4: one of the most historic like Steelers Thanksgivings anyway, and
Speaker 4: even that day was on the fourth fucking Thursday of November.
Speaker 5: Yep, all right, well, I guess I've just been wrong.
Speaker 1: Confirmation that a either A all of us are experiencing a
Speaker 1: Mandela effect right now, or B we now have even
Speaker 1: further confirmation in the NFL has been rigged for quite
Speaker 1: some time.
Speaker 4: And also like think about it, Like I feel like
Speaker 4: if it was truly the fourth Thanksgiving of the of
Speaker 4: the month or the fourth week of the month, right,
Speaker 4: like that would be so easy to remember, Like, all right, well,
Speaker 4: it's gonna be towards the end of the month.
Speaker 3: But no nobody ever thinks of.
Speaker 4: That, Like I always just assume that it's always going
Speaker 4: to be like on the twenty second, the twenty third,
Speaker 4: maybe the twenty fourth, that at the latest, you know.
Speaker 4: But I don't know, dude, I still am of the
Speaker 4: belief that we're living inside of a matrix personally.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying is like, how do we know
Speaker 5: that even though you just googled it and it said
Speaker 5: it was that day? You know, they could just change anything.
Speaker 5: Like our whole our whole perception of reality is based
Speaker 5: on stuff that we can look up online and google
Speaker 5: and shit, And so if they're fucking with us through that,
Speaker 5: then our entire reality is just like we're plugged into
Speaker 5: the matrix essentially.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're essentially just rewriting the history, and you know,
Speaker 4: and history is being lost and it's kind of an enigma.
Speaker 3: But what's really strange too.
Speaker 4: I mean, then they also have the whole dead Internet
Speaker 4: theory where they you know, they delete a bunch of
Speaker 4: pages that everybody remembers being there, but now they're not
Speaker 4: there anymore. Or and it's like, you know, I mean,
Speaker 4: do they need room for their servers that's why you
Speaker 4: got to delete old articles, you know? Or is it
Speaker 4: because you're trying to hide what actually happened so that
Speaker 4: you can tell it in your own way?
Speaker 1: What was that one time we had to look up
Speaker 1: an article and you knew you had just found this article,
Speaker 1: and we couldn't go through Google, we couldn't go through
Speaker 1: Duck Duck Goo. We had to go through a whole
Speaker 1: other website just to find it. And it wasn't because
Speaker 1: of censorship. It's because those search engines were just forced
Speaker 1: not to find this thing that you were searching for
Speaker 1: by fucking name at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: That was uh when we had to use the andex,
Speaker 3: wasn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. We had to go to old the
Speaker 2: old Ruski Internet.
Speaker 4: For the cabinets what's the name of that company, I
Speaker 4: always forget the name of it. Where there was stuff
Speaker 4: in the kids in the cabinets and selling the wayfair
Speaker 4: wayfair Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah yeah. That was hard
Speaker 4: to find that kind of information.
Speaker 1: You really should be using a VPN if you're gonna
Speaker 1: be getting on Russian Internet.
Speaker 3: Brother, I'm just saying, I mean, Russian Internet has shown
Speaker 3: not to lie to me as much as American Internet.
Speaker 3: So that's that's my.
Speaker 2: Point on it. Do it.
Speaker 1: Please get on the Russian Internet all. I'm here for it.
Speaker 1: Fuck censorship. I'm just saying, use a VPN. They just
Speaker 1: don't be tracking your IP to your house. As you
Speaker 1: run a conspiracy show and you're on Russian Internet.
Speaker 2: It just throws up some red flags to a federal agent.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: You kind of talked me into getting a tracking moler, sir,
Speaker 4: so I mean, I'm kind of.
Speaker 2: Damn.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to help you not get found, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, now I'm I see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I'm a fed one way and I'm gonna fed the
Speaker 2: other man. It just be like that.
Speaker 5: I remembered why I brought up the weird Thanksgiving thing.
Speaker 5: The reason I bring that up is because I feel
Speaker 5: like a lot of people are completely dependent upon like
Speaker 5: Google in the Internet for how they accept information and
Speaker 5: how they remember it information, And even someone like me,
Speaker 5: who I feel like I do pretty thorough research and
Speaker 5: not just through the Internet, but I read books and shit,
Speaker 5: I still get tripped up on shit, and so it
Speaker 5: just boggles my mind when I try to explain to
Speaker 5: people that things may not be as you remember them,
Speaker 5: or things may not be exactly how they portray it,
Speaker 5: especially with serial killers, and like a lot of people
Speaker 5: want to think that Charles Manson was solely responsible for
Speaker 5: the Sharon Tate murders and the Lobbyanca murders, and that
Speaker 5: he was just a crazy drag addict weirdo that did
Speaker 5: a lot of LSD and he convinced these people to
Speaker 5: go out and become serial killers. And another one that
Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys ever listen to William
Speaker 5: Ramsey investigates that podcast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have before.
Speaker 5: Okay, so he's done a lot of research looking into
Speaker 5: the West Memphis three murders and how it was like
Speaker 5: a crazy psycho practicing the occult and he and his
Speaker 5: buddies got together murdered three boys out in the middle
Speaker 5: of nowhere. And the more that I get looking into it,
Speaker 5: and the more you start to think about it, I
Speaker 5: don't think Charles Manson was responsible for the Sharon Tate
Speaker 5: murders just as much as I don't think Damien Eccles
Speaker 5: was responsible for the West Memphis three murders. I think
Speaker 5: it's CIA. I think it's like John Benet and they
Speaker 5: fucking sensationalize shit and they cover up who really did it,
Speaker 5: and they give you they you have to have a
Speaker 5: bad guy, and you have to have someone who's willing
Speaker 5: to be a bad guy because they can't tell you
Speaker 5: who's really up to this shit, you know. And Sharon
Speaker 5: Tate's dad CIA, right, and.
Speaker 1: She was by a whole other entity, and they just
Speaker 1: blamed it on the local cult leader.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, essentially. And Charles Wilson was very much willing
Speaker 5: to take the fall for that because he is like
Speaker 5: a CIA, like programmed. They just say, you know, tuna
Speaker 5: fish sandwich, and he fucking turns into another dude and
Speaker 5: he's like, oh wait, fucking he has a trigger word,
Speaker 5: you know what you're saying.
Speaker 1: His trigger word didn't make him an assassin his trigger
Speaker 1: word made him the fall guy, and he would just
Speaker 1: go along with whatever they said next.
Speaker 5: I think his trigger word made it to where he
Speaker 5: had like false memories about doing stuff or who he was,
Speaker 5: or like they had programmed him to think that he
Speaker 5: was this all powerful Jesus type savior cult leader guy
Speaker 5: with all this power, and at the end of the day,
Speaker 5: he was just a fucking nutcase. They had given LSD
Speaker 5: to fifty times, and they had convinced him that he
Speaker 5: was gonna, you know, become the this like the guy
Speaker 5: who shot John Lennon, Like you'll be famous, you know,
Speaker 5: You'll that everybody will always remember your name. He's just
Speaker 5: a CIA guy.
Speaker 4: And he was a magic practitioner though Damien Echoles he
Speaker 4: was in. He was into the magic. And I mean,
Speaker 4: he's still alive, isn't he. Ord he die, He's still alive. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I thought so because I know that him and Johnny
Speaker 4: Depp have like matching tattoos and shit.
Speaker 3: It's strange.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they fucking hang out and shit, and they're.
Speaker 1: Talking in the realm of celebrities with these cult leaders.
Speaker 1: Look no further than your boy, Charles Manson. And the
Speaker 1: further confirmation of the CIA plug as far as like
Speaker 1: an industry plug type of thing goes or industry plant.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, you have look at it, not even with
Speaker 1: the ones we have today like ice spice complete industry plant, right,
Speaker 1: possible CIA plant. We'll see how the next couple of
Speaker 1: decades turn out, you know what I mean. She's an
Speaker 1: up and comer, But same thing with Iggy Azalea's same thing.
Speaker 1: We can go down the rabbit hole and all of
Speaker 1: them individually.
Speaker 3: Talk to a girl, howked well?
Speaker 2: I want to believe that she's.
Speaker 4: Getting a little too fucking famous for you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, Like that's way too famous for just saying
Speaker 4: that you give sloppy block jobs, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: What she has done with the fame leads me to
Speaker 1: believe that maybe there's that kernel of humanity of like
Speaker 1: just your everytown girl gets money and does good things
Speaker 1: with it.
Speaker 2: But still the jury is still out, still early, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: She hasn't had time to let the money really get
Speaker 1: to her head, and like I hope, I have hope,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 1: But that does also prove that the Internet is fucking
Speaker 1: it's the Internet and Hawktua can become an international sensation
Speaker 1: and a multimillionaire and a matter of six months off
Speaker 1: of a random night out with this girl.
Speaker 2: Think of that.
Speaker 1: She's just out with her friends, just bar hopping this
Speaker 1: random dude on TikTok.
Speaker 2: She's drunk, she's talking some wild shit just for the
Speaker 2: fuck of it. Next thing you know, she's got this.
Speaker 1: Whole industry thing, and it's like, okay, what but but
Speaker 1: neither here nor there. Charles Manson, before he was the
Speaker 1: LSD infused cult leader, he was in every recording studio
Speaker 1: of every big name band that you could think of
Speaker 1: from the sixties and seventies.
Speaker 2: Okay, now he wasn't. Now maybe he was a quote
Speaker 2: unquote musician. Maybe he played an instrument.
Speaker 1: I don't know. No one knows this to No one cares.
Speaker 1: Did Albert Einstein know how to throw a ball? No
Speaker 1: one gives a fuck. That's not the point. Okay, Somehow
Speaker 1: he was in the goddamn room at every one of
Speaker 1: these recording studios, like he was the guy.
Speaker 2: He was in the mix.
Speaker 1: He was like in the no we might call a
Speaker 1: socialite or possibly some sort of a figure of a
Speaker 1: New age aristocrat of sorts okay.
Speaker 2: And he was just always in the mix. Everybody knew him,
Speaker 2: everybody loved him. They had him at his parties, they
Speaker 2: had him in the studios.
Speaker 7: He was the guy.
Speaker 2: Why who the fuck was this dude?
Speaker 5: Why Jacob? You know it's crazy about that, And why
Speaker 5: I'm covering him in more detail in the new series
Speaker 5: is because the one beach boy guy, Dennis Wilson, he
Speaker 5: fucking had Charles Manson at his house all the time,
Speaker 5: right in the recording studios, chilling, fucking doing whatever the fuck.
Speaker 5: And then he Dennis Wilson, was like, that's his name,
Speaker 5: isn't it. Yeah, that's his name. And he was like,
Speaker 5: I'm going to write a book one day about who
Speaker 5: Charles Manson really was. I'm gonna put it all out there.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna fucking write this book about it. And then
Speaker 5: he fucking turns up fucking dead, drownded in the in
Speaker 5: the marina where he kept his boat, and they say
Speaker 5: some shit about like oh, he dropped his keys and
Speaker 5: he was just dove in there, like yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 5: what it was.
Speaker 1: Sure, the dude who owns a boat A doesn't know
Speaker 1: how to swim and B would just dive in after
Speaker 1: some keys that unknown distance and just.
Speaker 5: Like yeah, yeah, yeah, nothing to do with the fact
Speaker 5: that he was going to write this book about Charles Manson.
Speaker 5: Nothing to do with any of that. But that's what
Speaker 5: I'm saying is like a lot of people will accept
Speaker 5: the story based on information that they've gathered from what
Speaker 5: the media, fucking Google, fucking whatever the narrative story is.
Speaker 5: And if you try to go back and say, no, actually,
Speaker 5: if you look at the physical evidence, or if you
Speaker 5: look at these connections, if you look at this, it
Speaker 5: would be more likely that either A all these serial killers
Speaker 5: were just a bunch of people working in tandem together,
Speaker 5: or B they weren't even there and they're just like
Speaker 5: taking the fall for this shit.
Speaker 3: Dude, do you want to hear crazy? Do you want
Speaker 3: to hear a one of the craziest quotes to ever quote.
Speaker 3: So this is a quote by.
Speaker 5: Charles You better be fucking crazy too, Oh dude, I'm
Speaker 5: telling you half asset.
Speaker 3: Oh no, there is no half fast in this quote
Speaker 3: right here.
Speaker 4: So this is a quote by Charles Manson talking about
Speaker 4: Dennis Wilson in his death and all that stuff. Right,
Speaker 4: Charles Manson said, Dennis Wilson was killed by my shadow
Speaker 4: because he took my music and changed the words from
Speaker 4: my soul.
Speaker 5: Well fuck him, okay, because what I'm saying to you
Speaker 5: guys is there is a reason why he pops up everywhere,
Speaker 5: and if you look, he was a member of like
Speaker 5: six or seven different gangs. Yeah, and you know, it's
Speaker 5: just it's just too much for one single individual to, oh,
Speaker 5: he's crazy and he fucking in the fucking LaBianca murders,
Speaker 5: and there is so much more to that than meets
Speaker 5: the eye. There's so much more to people popping up
Speaker 5: dead all around him that have nothing to do. You know.
Speaker 5: It's like I said, people don't want to accept that
Speaker 5: because they have it in their mind that these murders
Speaker 5: took place in this way and this is who did it,
Speaker 5: and this is But everything we've ever been told, including
Speaker 5: stuff like this, needs to be thrown up into question
Speaker 5: and people need to look further into it because it's
Speaker 5: usually some fucking conspiracy shit.
Speaker 3: Dude, that is nuts.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I knew that Charles Manson had a
Speaker 4: lot of ties and everything and a lot of connections.
Speaker 4: I mean, I absolutely believe that he was some kind
Speaker 4: of CIA asset, and I do want to say, dude,
Speaker 4: like speaking about like it being him being a CIA
Speaker 4: asset and possibly using him to experiment on cult members
Speaker 4: and stuff, not our cult members with that third eye
Speaker 4: all the way upen dumb cult members. But just think
Speaker 4: about it, Like, you know, whenever this country was founded
Speaker 4: back in seventeen seventy six as the Great United States
Speaker 4: of America, it was understood to be the great American experiment, right,
Speaker 4: And then you look into the CIA, you see all
Speaker 4: the psychological programs, the mk ultra, the remote viewing, and
Speaker 4: all of these weird things that the CIA has been
Speaker 4: involved in and studied deeply. It's like, is it really
Speaker 4: that crazy that they would be using some popular figure
Speaker 4: like Charles Manson to be able to experiment on its
Speaker 4: own people to try and see how they respond psychologically,
Speaker 4: Like if this would be the way to manipulate people
Speaker 4: on mass Like think about like these dudes that are
Speaker 4: the CIA, dudes that are in some kind of fucking
Speaker 4: lab or something, or they're in some kind of conference room,
Speaker 4: and they're just like, how can we like carry out
Speaker 4: the murders that we want, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Or how could we How could we inflict fear among
Speaker 4: people to make them feel not so comfortable, Like I mean,
Speaker 4: I mean, a government is.
Speaker 5: Stout people that we need to get rid of without
Speaker 5: being conspicuous.
Speaker 4: Right well, and on top of that too, it's like
Speaker 4: you know, of course it would be within the CIA's
Speaker 4: interest to instill as much fear as humanly possible. If
Speaker 4: you think about it, they're they're I mean, they're part
Speaker 4: of the government. I don't think anybody denies that. But like,
Speaker 4: look at the word government. It's literally to fucking control
Speaker 4: your mind, dude. Like it's to instill fear on purpose
Speaker 4: psychologically so that you do go out and you know,
Speaker 4: you're like handing over your rights. Yeah, I want food stamps.
Speaker 4: Here's my fucking thumb prints, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, but it's also to like take out specific targets,
Speaker 1: like there's other groups.
Speaker 4: Oh ye yeah, there's multiple levels for sure, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: Like I think it's accomplishing a lot.
Speaker 2: You look at some of the.
Speaker 5: Ones that like gangs and colts.
Speaker 1: Right, you look at some of the victims and who
Speaker 1: their family members were, right, and you look at well,
Speaker 1: it's just very weird that this one chicks that was
Speaker 1: murdered by this group's dad was a part of an
Speaker 1: investigation that was going on here recently, or like oh
Speaker 1: they were it was like a dirty case that was
Speaker 1: going on and they had to swing the jury one
Speaker 1: way or an like there's wild shit gang style murders
Speaker 1: that take place, or coult style mers that take place,
Speaker 1: and there's this whole satanic ritual around it, and it's
Speaker 1: done to your point, Jonathan, in a way to instill fear.
Speaker 1: They want the optics, they want it all over the
Speaker 1: front page, to the papers man. That's the whole point.
Speaker 1: And of course the papers have the ultimate authority to
Speaker 1: be like, whoa, we don't want to show that graphic material,
Speaker 1: we don't or or of course, because it's all government
Speaker 1: funded media will run that bitch on the front page.
Speaker 1: And so there's a whole there's like we're saying, there's
Speaker 1: levels to it on that murdering a U or excuse me,
Speaker 1: assassinating a specific figure, And there's also the fear factor
Speaker 1: and the shock and awe and that goes with that
Speaker 1: as well, you know what I mean. That's it keeps
Speaker 1: it blending, It keeps the people divided, It keeps them
Speaker 1: frantic about one thing or this thing or that thing
Speaker 1: or the murder thing or that it's all a part
Speaker 1: of the scheme, multiple levels.
Speaker 2: It will.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's splintered on purpose kind of deal.
Speaker 4: And so like, whenever you think about fear, I've always
Speaker 4: like I was brought up understand that fear was an
Speaker 4: acronym for false evidence appearing real, right, and so like,
Speaker 4: whenever you look at the CIA doing this kind of
Speaker 4: shit to instill fear, it's based upon false evidence in
Speaker 4: the first place.
Speaker 3: It fucking perfectly aligns.
Speaker 5: I think that the main thing that I try to
Speaker 5: get people to understand too, is that people want to
Speaker 5: put this separation between something being ritualistic and something being
Speaker 5: CIA or government controlled, when those two things are are synonymous,
Speaker 5: because there is a ritual aspect to a lot of
Speaker 5: the stuff that involves the government. And I mean, I
Speaker 5: talked about Michael Achino in one of the series, because
Speaker 5: he was a they called him the Colonel, and he
Speaker 5: worked at Presidio Base, and all these kids said that
Speaker 5: he was making him eat shit and drink piss and
Speaker 5: watch snuff films and decapitate cats and like do all
Speaker 5: that stuff. And he they called him the Colonel and
Speaker 5: he was in the military, and people think that, oh,
Speaker 5: is it ritualistic or is it government? And my argument
Speaker 5: has always been, what's the fucking difference, because a lot
Speaker 5: of those things run in tandem with each other, or
Speaker 5: they are connected, or they're the same thing, because you know,
Speaker 5: and I'm not saying everyone obviously, Jacob, but no.
Speaker 1: No, no, of course, like Castro, for the CIA had
Speaker 1: like five hundred failed attempts of assassinating Castro.
Speaker 2: Some of them were kind of ritualistic in nature, Gonna
Speaker 2: be honest, Some of.
Speaker 1: Them, like the necktie thing that was just gonna keep
Speaker 1: like winching on his neck and suffocate him.
Speaker 2: Not so much, but like there's a mix.
Speaker 3: Well, how about like Saddam Hussein too.
Speaker 4: He I mean, he was basically a fucking United States
Speaker 4: planned if you really look into it.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought him up, Jonathan.
Speaker 1: I was gonna I was gonna go that direction because
Speaker 1: everybody says, oh, well, that was cole war CIA right
Speaker 1: when they were doing Castro shit, when they were Watergate shit, right,
Speaker 1: that was when they were doing the wild stuff, the
Speaker 1: mk ultra, the Charles Manson's, that was when they were
Speaker 1: like there was no morals it was just them versus Communism.
Speaker 1: The post Cold War CIA would never do something like that,
Speaker 1: Oh except for that time we sold massive amounts of
Speaker 1: chemical agents to Iraq knowing that they would use them
Speaker 1: against Iran. So we know, we gave weapons that we
Speaker 1: are not allowed to use under the Geneva Convention because
Speaker 1: there's so atross against mankind our own verbiage, if I'm
Speaker 1: not mistaken, But we could totally sell them to these
Speaker 1: other people who are gonna use them on these other people.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, they're using it on some people that we like.
Speaker 1: But like we kind of have to turn a blind
Speaker 1: eye because we gave them the fucking seren gas and
Speaker 1: now they have nukes and weapons of mass destruction, except
Speaker 1: we never found any, and it's a whole fucking thing.
Speaker 1: So like, yeah, there is the whole pre Cold War
Speaker 1: post Cold war.
Speaker 2: Note no, no, no, no, it's the same. Fuck.
Speaker 3: It's not gotten better, that's for sure. How about your
Speaker 3: boy Tim Osmon.
Speaker 1: How about Tim fucking Osmond aka Osama bin Laden? Yeah,
Speaker 1: who are always like the ritualistic aspect, right, and then
Speaker 1: like what's to follow?
Speaker 5: And one of the best examples that I can come
Speaker 5: up with is pedophilia. We all talk about how they
Speaker 5: use it as blackmail against other politicians, and they do
Speaker 5: all this shit. They're running kids and they're fucking and
Speaker 5: tell me that other shit that we have heard isn't
Speaker 5: ritualistic in nature. What they do to these kids. They
Speaker 5: use children, rape them to blackmail other politicians, And there
Speaker 5: is a ritualistic aspect they get something out of, and
Speaker 5: then there is the government aspect of which they get
Speaker 5: something out of. And if they weren't seeing results by
Speaker 5: doing this shit, they wouldn't continue to do it. So
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, I think like mass murdering shit is
Speaker 5: great fucking juice for rituals and other purposes.
Speaker 4: Well, especially whenever you take one of your own CIA
Speaker 4: operator or one of your own CIA dudes right like,
Speaker 4: and then you paint him as some kind of terrorist.
Speaker 4: That's that's hiding in the mountains and doug digging holes
Speaker 4: so nukes can't land on him, and he's he's just
Speaker 4: somehow surviving and he's sending using technology from the dirt
Speaker 4: and the mountains and maybe a little bit of water
Speaker 4: to make some mud in order to send back videos
Speaker 4: to the United States threatening that he's gonna fucking bomb us, right, like,
Speaker 4: this is crazy.
Speaker 3: Look at these motherfuckers. That is Tim Osmond, That's bin Laden,
Speaker 3: that's the same guy.
Speaker 1: It is uh for anybody just to let it all
Speaker 1: in on the joke on that one. So once upon
Speaker 1: a time, Osama bin Lauden. You have to keep in
Speaker 1: mind the bin Laden family is a very renowned family. Okay,
Speaker 1: Like for real, the dude's dad built the highway across
Speaker 1: the desert. He did engineering impossibility.
Speaker 2: Okay. He's got fifty brothers and sisters. Most of them
Speaker 2: live in America.
Speaker 1: Most of the ben Loons are solid people and like upstanding,
Speaker 1: like CEOs and shit. Right, he happens to be the
Speaker 1: rottenist of the bad apples. There's a few of them
Speaker 1: in the in the fifty children, right, but he is
Speaker 1: by was by far the worst. And once upon a
Speaker 1: time the CIA decided that, hey, we could kind of
Speaker 1: use this guy to fuck up the Kamis because the
Speaker 1: Russians were invading Afghanistan in the nineteen eighties and this
Speaker 1: guy had a group of he called them freedom fighters.
Speaker 1: By any other metrics, these guys were absolute terrorist shit heads.
Speaker 2: They were torching people alive.
Speaker 1: They were like throwing acid in women's faces that these
Speaker 1: people were not good people. But enemy of my enemy
Speaker 1: is my friends type of thing. But we can't be
Speaker 1: sending money to a a known terrorist organization, but we
Speaker 1: could send it to our CIA representative by the name
Speaker 1: of Tim Osman in the local vicinity, who's giving us
Speaker 1: intel into the local movements of militia fighting groups and
Speaker 1: things like that. So one thing leads to another, and
Speaker 1: your boy bin Laden's got a little shinier weapons to
Speaker 1: go play around with. And later on when we kind
Speaker 1: of needed to find a boogeyman, you know, and it's
Speaker 1: an attack happened that he never claimed but did praise.
Speaker 1: He said he was happy that nine to eleven happened,
Speaker 1: but never actually claimed direct you know, nah, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know whatever, But whatever, you know, things happen then
Speaker 1: shake out.
Speaker 4: How about like even they they did such. I don't
Speaker 4: know if this was done on purpose, but if you
Speaker 4: really look at it, like Osama and Osmon.
Speaker 3: That's basically the same.
Speaker 4: That's just rearranged some letters and adding an end at
Speaker 4: the end like that'n.
Speaker 5: I mean, they don't, they don't even That's why I say,
Speaker 5: if you look back this, there's so many examples of
Speaker 5: that where it's almost like, when you really take time
Speaker 5: to look at it so blatantly obvious, it's like a
Speaker 5: big fucking joke almost, And I mean, how ritualistic was
Speaker 5: nine to eleven? You know how? Yeah, So there's this
Speaker 5: ritualistic aspect. And sometimes I think when they try to
Speaker 5: blame a bunch of stuff on serial killers, the more
Speaker 5: ritualistic it looks, and the more occult demon worshippers or
Speaker 5: whatever they and they always like to blame it on
Speaker 5: some cult group or some this or some that. It's
Speaker 5: the more occult it looks, and the more crazy devil
Speaker 5: worship be it looks, you should start looking at the
Speaker 5: government being responsible for it. That's almost like my my
Speaker 5: rule of thumb. Now, the more cult it, the more
Speaker 5: you better start looking somewhere else.
Speaker 1: Start looking at the local politicians, like, start looking at
Speaker 1: the governor, Start looking at your local congressman for that area.
Speaker 1: The same way that once upon a time you could say, oh,
Speaker 1: you had a clan rally in your area, Yo, who's
Speaker 1: your local representative. I'm guaranteeing there's a connection.
Speaker 4: Just throwing it out, dude, do you want to hear
Speaker 4: a funny thing at anytime, Like all right, So I thought,
Speaker 4: all right, so tim osman Osama bin Laden, you know,
Speaker 4: you can see how the last name matches with the
Speaker 4: first name a little bit.
Speaker 3: So then I was like doing a little research. And
Speaker 3: I always like to go to.
Speaker 4: Some people get on me because I say jim Atria,
Speaker 4: but I guess the correct way to say it is
Speaker 4: gum Atria, which kind of sounds stupid, but whatever.
Speaker 2: You have been hung up on that for a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks now, dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just whatever.
Speaker 4: I you know, it's just one of those things that
Speaker 4: just irks me for some reason. But anyway, so I
Speaker 4: looked up Ben Laden on gum gum matrix dot com,
Speaker 4: which is Camatria.
Speaker 3: You know, it's gay matrix.
Speaker 4: It like calculates the Gomatria value for certain words and whatnot.
Speaker 4: It's go matrix dot org. Actually, and I typed in
Speaker 4: Ben Laden and I found, you know what's funny, the
Speaker 4: first name, So the uh, the Jewish value for for
Speaker 4: Ben Lawden is one twenty one. And you know the
Speaker 4: first name that comes up that also equals twenty or
Speaker 4: one twenty one is Mark, which is in my world,
Speaker 4: whenever I see something Mark, like, yeah, there's like a
Speaker 4: check mark or whatever. Right, But like I think of
Speaker 4: a mark in wrestling, right, you know what a mark
Speaker 4: in wrestling is.
Speaker 1: Uh, like a like a heal and a face kind
Speaker 1: of thing. A mark is like somebody in the crowd.
Speaker 4: A mark is somebody in the crowd who like fully
Speaker 4: a full on believes everything that's going on. So like
Speaker 4: they literally think that Damian Priest is actually a bad
Speaker 4: guy in real life, right, like just for example, and
Speaker 4: so think about that, Like if Ben Lauden was that guy,
Speaker 4: he was that mark. Maybe he actually believed it, which
Speaker 4: would lead to the whole MK ultra thing.
Speaker 3: Maybe he was. I don't know, was he brainwashed.
Speaker 4: To do what he did even if I mean, I
Speaker 4: honestly don't even believe that he did anything, to be
Speaker 4: honest with you. I think it was all just come
Speaker 4: some kind of show doing still Fear or whatever. And
Speaker 4: I think that it was probably our people that took
Speaker 4: out the Twin Towers. But that's neither here nor there anyway.
Speaker 5: All right, Actually I got two movies for you. Okay,
Speaker 5: maybe we've talked about this before, maybe we haven't. Men
Speaker 5: in Black Part three okay, where they go back in
Speaker 5: time and Tommy Lee is like a young dude. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that one, and they say that all the supermodels and
Speaker 5: everyone that led the counterculture movement and every celebrity is.
Speaker 2: The Amby Warhol. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 5: They say that they're all aliens. Okay, yes, that's one
Speaker 5: to check out again for people who are getting into this.
Speaker 5: And the second one is god damn, Now it's slipped
Speaker 5: my mind, but I'll remember it in a second. But
Speaker 5: it's essentially like they put in movies, oh, Pineapple Express,
Speaker 5: where you know, the very beginning of that movie, they're
Speaker 5: in this underground bunker and they're testing what It's funny
Speaker 5: because they're testing weed, but there's a reason why they're
Speaker 5: using LSD for mind control and a lot of these
Speaker 5: programs and like Pineapple Express, it's like ha ha ha,
Speaker 5: that's so funny, and they're in underground bunkers and whatever.
Speaker 5: But that's another part of their ritualism behind these programs,
Speaker 5: is what does LSD do to your fucking mind?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 1: No, No, the opening scene of Pineapple Express, yes, the
Speaker 1: rest of the movie with all the hijinks and whatever,
Speaker 1: and you're right, the underground or not even hydra it
Speaker 1: was like a yeah, it was a hydroponic setup to
Speaker 1: where the government was growing just underground indoor acre of wheat.
Speaker 1: Yes to that part, but the opening scene I always
Speaker 1: found extremely interesting, funny as hell, Yes, but also the
Speaker 1: fact that that is a real experiment that took place
Speaker 1: at one point in time. I don't know if there's
Speaker 1: actual record of it or anything like that, but they
Speaker 1: being the government at one point in time, very early
Speaker 1: in the Cold War, right after World War two ended,
Speaker 1: and we had a lot of still able bodied young
Speaker 1: men that wanted to serve, but like we didn't have
Speaker 1: a war to fight, and some of them were really
Speaker 1: dumb and had no better use than to try a
Speaker 1: bunch of shit to see.
Speaker 2: What happens when they go too far.
Speaker 1: And this is before mk ultra, before they started with
Speaker 1: the LSD to the mentally impaired and all that. The
Speaker 1: scene of just a basic army private just getting blitzed
Speaker 1: out of his mind, stoned on this type of cannabinoid,
Speaker 1: and the government really.
Speaker 2: Wanted to see could you ode from.
Speaker 1: That experiment really did take place once upon a time,
Speaker 1: and that experiment took place to all substances I can I'm.
Speaker 5: Just gonna say all substances I'm sure. And the point
Speaker 5: is like they've got this down to a fucking science. Now,
Speaker 5: making a Manchurian candidate, making a programmed killer, my god,
Speaker 5: it's probably like in some kind of handout you get
Speaker 5: on your first fucking day of the fucking secret program.
Speaker 5: So hey, here's your hand out. This is how we
Speaker 5: make a serial killer. This is how we do. Like
Speaker 5: they have it down to an absolute science.
Speaker 2: Oh, they have a department.
Speaker 1: They have a whole like step by step program, like
Speaker 1: the twelve step program, but like opposite and evil kind
Speaker 1: of thing.
Speaker 2: It's like a whole thing.
Speaker 1: You got that one person that's been doing it for
Speaker 1: like thirty years and is just like waiting for their
Speaker 1: fucking government pension and their retirement, and there's like look
Speaker 1: at the screen, click and they just play the video
Speaker 1: and they've already seen it and they're like they're numb to.
Speaker 2: It's like they got their blinders on.
Speaker 1: There's like scrolling TikTok while this person's like an agonizing
Speaker 1: pain getting brainwashed and just like yeah, yeah yeah, and
Speaker 1: they're just counting down the fucking days until they can retire.
Speaker 2: At that thirty year mark. You know, it's like no,
Speaker 2: it's a thing, you.
Speaker 5: Like, you almost have to wonder when they going through
Speaker 5: these programs. It's like, all right, make that a one
Speaker 5: a devil worshiper, make that one a rapist, right, It's
Speaker 5: just I mean, and then they give them cool monikers,
Speaker 5: you know, the Boston Hillside Strangler, Golden State Bridge, like
Speaker 5: I'm just making out, and they give them like a
Speaker 5: cool name like the Zodiac and.
Speaker 3: Shit, like you always gotta make sure.
Speaker 4: You always gotta make sure you're using their middle name, right,
Speaker 4: Like it's always three names all these damn killers?
Speaker 2: Can we can we just real quick?
Speaker 1: Why did Ted Bundy not get the three name moniker?
Speaker 1: Why did Charles Manson not get the three name monikers?
Speaker 2: So many other killers do?
Speaker 1: And I was gonna make that point Jonathan, but I
Speaker 1: even stop myself because I'm like, you gotta make sure
Speaker 1: their name sounds good at three three words and like
Speaker 1: bopappas yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: But then we're all even talking about it. Case, so
Speaker 2: that's not true.
Speaker 1: Why is this?
Speaker 5: Well, the first one that I thought of when when
Speaker 5: Jonathan said that was Lee Harvey Oswald because that was
Speaker 5: a name, and actually there's like multiple Leave Harvey Oswalds
Speaker 5: that they've discovered and like that the guy that they
Speaker 5: they blamed it on, his name wasn't even Lee Harvey Oswald.
Speaker 5: It's like a weird code name to use. Lee Harvey
Speaker 5: was like a fucking code name or some shit. But anyways,
Speaker 5: it's like they do. They give them fucking names, and
Speaker 5: they they make them like celebrities and and people. And
Speaker 5: I've been researching Ted Bundy a little bit. Obviously he
Speaker 5: was like Mormon and shit, which Heidi and I from
Speaker 5: Unfiltered podcast I talked about, but it goes even further
Speaker 5: than that. Like if you look at a couple of
Speaker 5: the murders that he is responsible for, he couldn't even
Speaker 5: been at those two different locations in that timeframe. It
Speaker 5: would be like almost physically impossible to get from from
Speaker 5: Colorado to Florida and that time. Like, it's just it's just,
Speaker 5: you know, when you really look into it, a lot
Speaker 5: of this stuff is like like a movie, Like you're
Speaker 5: watching a movie. These they're characters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the first lie that gets told is typically
Speaker 1: the one that's believed.
Speaker 5: Mm hmmm. I feel like you had an epiphany though.
Speaker 1: Jacob and Heidi, I was trying to remember you you're
Speaker 1: not former Mormon, are you No, that's what.
Speaker 2: I would say.
Speaker 1: Heidi is when you said Heidi, I was I remembered
Speaker 1: for a crazy I was like, oh wait, you're not too.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you what your what your spiritual
Speaker 1: name was? But uh, Ted Bundy, What is Ted Bundy's
Speaker 1: middle name? Because like, if it's like.
Speaker 5: Some shit Theodore Robert Bundy, it's Theodore Robert Bundy.
Speaker 2: But they see Theodore Robert Bundy.
Speaker 1: That's too long. That's too long. So they decided, Okay,
Speaker 1: I get this, but anything like John Wayne Gacy and
Speaker 1: that Derrick Todd Lee Rights, There's so.
Speaker 2: Many, There's so many.
Speaker 1: But then Charles Manson, No, what was Charles Manson's middle name?
Speaker 4: Well, he was already understood to be that guy before
Speaker 4: he got busted for all that shit. Though he was
Speaker 4: already Charles Manson before, like he was famous before he
Speaker 4: was a murderer.
Speaker 5: That's true, he was kind of Yeah, But I mean
Speaker 5: it's just such a rabbit hole. You guys would actually
Speaker 5: probably enjoy the previous series and the one coming up too.
Speaker 5: And I want to keep this it really entertaining and
Speaker 5: interesting for for your listeners, because these are all very
Speaker 5: important topics that I think because they happened a while ago,
Speaker 5: or we don't have a fresh serial killer, we're not
Speaker 5: talking about it, but it's all very important still. And
Speaker 5: one of your listeners actually found me on Instagram sent
Speaker 5: me a message through my link tree, and I thought
Speaker 5: that was really cool because they wanted me to touch
Speaker 5: on the new Netflix series or maybe it's a movie
Speaker 5: about the Menindez Brothers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a series.
Speaker 5: It's a series, okay. And I talk a lot about
Speaker 5: if they can make a documentary about a serial killer,
Speaker 5: even if it happened forever ago, they can re sensationalize it,
Speaker 5: like we discussed before with Jeffrey Dahmer, that's Netflix, Ted
Speaker 5: Bundy with Zach Effron, that's Netflix.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 5: Now they got the Menindez Brothers, and it's almost as
Speaker 5: if it concretes in your mind that this is absolutely
Speaker 5: who did it. He was a monster. He's like he's
Speaker 5: like a celebrity now, you know. And if they can
Speaker 5: get you to believe, and I talked about it even
Speaker 5: in the Marilyn Monroe episode. They love to make documentaries
Speaker 5: about how she had to have killed herself, how she
Speaker 5: was so depressed, and if they can make a movie
Speaker 5: about it. That's it. That's what people believe, that's the story.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well what are the masses going to do? Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, you're gonna have a few people that might
Speaker 4: click on a USA Today article or a you know,
Speaker 4: MSNBC article or something like that, but you're going to
Speaker 4: have hundreds of millions watch, you know, a series on
Speaker 4: the Menendez brothers, and that will be the truth. And
Speaker 4: the thing is is what I was learning is now
Speaker 4: I don't really know a whole lot about the Menandez brothers.
Speaker 4: I just I to be honest, Like, my only reference
Speaker 4: of the Menendez brothers was in Cable Guy. You remember
Speaker 4: they were talking about that in Cable Guy with Jim Carrey,
Speaker 4: and I like, I had heard about it and stuff
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 3: But I started doing a little bit of research. Dude.
Speaker 4: The way that they framed that whole series is like
Speaker 4: they left out a lot, dude.
Speaker 3: And and what it.
Speaker 5: Does is did leave out a lot.
Speaker 4: And what it does is is that it's taking what
Speaker 4: is you know, uh globally or flat earthly under uhh,
Speaker 4: the understanding and it's like saying, well, here's the actual truth,
Speaker 4: and you're going to remember that subconsciously that way. Whenever
Speaker 4: you think about the Menendez brothers, well, they only did
Speaker 4: it because they were being raped whenever they were young.
Speaker 4: And I don't even know is that an understood fact
Speaker 4: because I thought that that was up for conjecture.
Speaker 5: No, it is. And the actually the research that I
Speaker 5: did on it that I included in the uh it
Speaker 5: might have been the pedaphocracies the very first series is
Speaker 5: that there was more physical evidence that those two boys
Speaker 5: were getting John Bene ramseyed by their wealthy elitist parents
Speaker 5: than there was to say that that that they were
Speaker 5: blaming it on that to like make them look crazy.
Speaker 5: You know, there was more physical evidence to prove that
Speaker 5: they were getting like chronically raped by their parents than otherwise.
Speaker 5: But the way that they make it look and they
Speaker 5: make them look like valley girls almost in that series,
Speaker 5: and it's just you know, if those kids were getting
Speaker 5: John Benet ramsayed by their wealthy elitist parents, you almost
Speaker 5: have to think they shot their faces off. Usually victims
Speaker 5: of chronic abuse go for the face every time. There's
Speaker 5: a lot of evidence to support the fact that Lizzie
Speaker 5: Borden was getting fucking raped on by her dad. And
Speaker 5: what did she do. She asked his fucking face off.
Speaker 5: That's usually what they do. And yeah, asked their mom's
Speaker 5: face off too.
Speaker 2: Which like could be because she knew what was going.
Speaker 5: On, and she yes. And so when I saw that
Speaker 5: the parents were wealthy iliitists and they shot their faces off,
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, and then and then all these
Speaker 5: you know, physical aspects of it too, that they could
Speaker 5: prove that these boys were being chronically raped on, and
Speaker 5: you know the way that they framed it. It just
Speaker 5: it sucks that this is the outlet where people absorb
Speaker 5: their information from is Netflix. It was there's just so much,
Speaker 5: so much to it.
Speaker 3: It was a fucked up series to watch. I did
Speaker 3: watch it.
Speaker 4: I actually don't watch a lot of murder documentaries, but
Speaker 4: I just found myself wanting to watch that one. And dude,
Speaker 4: like they go to the therapists and everything, and the
Speaker 4: one the one brother is like, you know, he's talking
Speaker 4: to the therapist and he's you know, having trouble really
Speaker 4: comprehending the uh, like the reasoning for his dad doing
Speaker 4: that to him, And uh, I guess his dad used
Speaker 4: to always say.
Speaker 3: You know, he goes what did he say?
Speaker 4: The one brother he goes, you know, I don't understand
Speaker 4: why he rapes me and then calls me a faggot.
Speaker 4: It was like, damn, dude, that is some serious fucking
Speaker 4: psychological shit that's going on over there, Because you think
Speaker 4: about it, most of those people that are doing that
Speaker 4: kind of shit it is. It's absolutely psychological manipulation that's
Speaker 4: going on with it, Like you're literally trying to change
Speaker 4: their worldview into thinking that this is normal.
Speaker 5: They're getting John Benet ramseyed.
Speaker 1: But like for brothers, if it was like one one
Speaker 1: of the kids of this household that like had a
Speaker 1: history of mental issues, they had to keep the guns
Speaker 1: locked up, and this kid got a hold of one
Speaker 1: one day and just fucking that's one thing. That's a
Speaker 1: completely different kind of conversation for both brothers to be
Speaker 1: in on it to this level. Okay, now you look
Speaker 1: throughout the previous case studies here of kids murdering their
Speaker 1: parents at this type of scale. Not an accidental poisoning,
Speaker 1: not an accidental throwing a toaster in a tub, even
Speaker 1: though that's sounds ridiculous, like accidents do happen, like real shit,
Speaker 1: We're talking about intentional murdering of a child.
Speaker 2: Murdering their parents. I don't know of.
Speaker 1: Many cases that would stand out that didn't account for
Speaker 1: either A the kid was trying to like get the
Speaker 1: inheritance super early and tried murdering the parents because they
Speaker 1: were like they were old but weren't dying quick enough
Speaker 1: type of situation, or B some type of gross abuse
Speaker 1: to this type of level.
Speaker 5: I mean, theymed the clip into their parents' faces.
Speaker 2: And that's my point.
Speaker 1: If they were doing it for inheritance, they fucked themselves
Speaker 1: out of it like that was that they were never
Speaker 1: gonna get that, you know what I mean. So it
Speaker 1: makes more sense to me that their story is real.
Speaker 2: Why else would they want to murder their parents?
Speaker 3: Well there, and I was just looking.
Speaker 4: I just typed in murders shooting victims in the face,
Speaker 4: and the first thing that came up was literally this
Speaker 4: thing just happened six hours ago, and it says it
Speaker 4: says it says an Akron man who shot victim in
Speaker 4: the face over potato chips Akron.
Speaker 5: He was not as climactic as I thought. It was
Speaker 5: the guy with the chips raping him as as a child.
Speaker 3: I hope there's more to it.
Speaker 2: The three am at a liquor store, I guarantee.
Speaker 4: Yeah, look at this shit man sentenced for shooting victim
Speaker 4: and face after refusing to share potato chips.
Speaker 3: You know, crazier things have happened, not even it was like.
Speaker 5: He could have been raping him since he was a child,
Speaker 5: and they're just blaming it on the potato chips.
Speaker 4: Clearly, I guess. I mean, we can look a little
Speaker 4: bit deeper into it.
Speaker 5: I suppose. But that's what hilarious though.
Speaker 2: Yo.
Speaker 1: Have you seen why Baton Rouge is the murder capital
Speaker 1: of America right now?
Speaker 2: Dude?
Speaker 1: The amount of people on it is wild and the
Speaker 1: only time I ever see face murders like to this
Speaker 1: level of like dumping a mag as if it was
Speaker 1: like to send a message or for like revenge of something.
Speaker 1: A lot of gang violence.
Speaker 5: Like that in the face. Yeah, I'm straight bullets.
Speaker 2: That's different. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a different story, dude.
Speaker 4: This is it says when the victim declined to offer
Speaker 4: uh to offer up his chips right reportedly shot him
Speaker 4: in the face. The victim drove himself to the hospital
Speaker 4: and survived after six days of treatment.
Speaker 3: Got shot in the face. Sick. That is crazy. So
Speaker 3: now right, yeah, dude says now right.
Speaker 1: I guess the hospitals like they are not gonna believe
Speaker 1: this fucking story. But like, bro, I was just eating
Speaker 1: my chips, minding my business, being a child of God.
Speaker 2: This fucking crackhead shoots me in the face.
Speaker 1: That won't let him stick his dirty ass at like
Speaker 1: nasty hands in my bag of chips, and he shoots
Speaker 1: me in the fucking face.
Speaker 5: Wow, I'm gonna share my ruffles.
Speaker 3: No, no, not at all. But it actually says that right,
Speaker 3: which was the gunman approached the victim in an Akron
Speaker 3: nightclub and asked for some of the victim's potato chips,
Speaker 3: and whenever he got declined.
Speaker 5: I can't even take this serious, dude, Dude and the
Speaker 5: potato chips at the nightclub anyways.
Speaker 1: Why don't you have security at a nightclub? What the
Speaker 1: fuck is happening here?
Speaker 4: You ain't gonna give me? No, I'm saying, you ain't
Speaker 4: gonna give me some chips? You really about that life?
Speaker 4: You really want to make that decision right now? You
Speaker 4: better be You better wise up and make a business
Speaker 4: decision here.
Speaker 3: It's like, like what labor.
Speaker 5: Do you hope that they were? I hope they were ruffles,
Speaker 5: sour cream and cheddar or something delicious like that. Hope
Speaker 5: it was fucking worthy.
Speaker 4: I don't know if there's a chip that would deem
Speaker 4: this to be worthy, to be honest with you, and
Speaker 4: I'm not even somebody and that's over here barbecue, Oh
Speaker 4: something like give me a make at least hope as
Speaker 4: that was Dorito's, but also kind of feel like it
Speaker 4: was Little Yachti's chips like cherios.
Speaker 5: Is it Nacho Cheese or cool Ranch?
Speaker 2: Oh? Personally, just me, just personal Nacho Cheese.
Speaker 1: I do, in fact love cool Ranch, But I would
Speaker 1: be lying if I said Nacho didn't reign supreme to me.
Speaker 5: I know this is dark humor, but I just have
Speaker 5: to say. Another completely hilarious story that I was sent
Speaker 5: was this meth head lady.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: I don't know how they found this out, but they
Speaker 5: showed up at her house and she had fucking body
Speaker 5: parts hidden in a bunch of pieces of her furniture.
Speaker 5: She had put body parts in her couch and sewed
Speaker 5: it back up, and her mattress and they were all
Speaker 5: just rotting all over her house. And she was just
Speaker 5: crazy crackhead or meth head and you know, just murdered
Speaker 5: a bunch of people and stuffed their parts in her furniture.
Speaker 5: I mean, like, this is the kind of stuff. And
Speaker 5: then you see the picture of her and she's all like.
Speaker 4: Pout and shit, that's that's definitely a methad move for sure.
Speaker 2: I feel like that was a Florida woman. I could
Speaker 2: be wrong on that.
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, yeah, but I also just might
Speaker 1: be throwing Florida man statements onto wild shit at this point,
Speaker 1: which is typically not a wrong thing to do.
Speaker 5: Just the police showed up and this woman had her
Speaker 5: mom in the oven baking her. It's just the most
Speaker 5: craziest shit you ever saw.
Speaker 1: And also, Florida listeners, all of our good Florida cult
Speaker 1: members out there, please don't think we're talking shit. We
Speaker 1: had a blasted Brohemian grove in your glorious States.
Speaker 2: And uh, let's be honest. Europe has a version of you.
Speaker 1: It's called Poland because Polish man has done way wilder
Speaker 1: shit than Florida Man, come to find out, and there's
Speaker 1: news articles for every day of the year exponentially higher
Speaker 1: stakes than Florida Man. Poland is wild. The fact that
Speaker 1: Russia is trying to fuck around with.
Speaker 2: Them right now.
Speaker 1: It is really really fucking hilarious to me, Like America
Speaker 1: probably doesn't need to go to war with Russia. They
Speaker 1: keep doing this. Poland man will fucking handle this, y'all.
Speaker 1: All right, This would be the equivalent of Cuba kicking
Speaker 1: Florida man in the nuts, Like, we don't have to
Speaker 1: actually do anything.
Speaker 2: Florida Man's gonna handle this on his own. Bro.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, that was a Kentucky woman.
Speaker 2: I found it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I found it.
Speaker 4: And actually the quote here is that it says a
Speaker 4: witness told state police that she was reportedly casting spells
Speaker 4: and being confrontational the day prior to the discovery.
Speaker 2: Fucking Narnia dude.
Speaker 5: Wow. But so yeah, I'm really excited about the new
Speaker 5: series because it's it's stuff like this, it's crazy serial Killers,
Speaker 5: it's Cia stuff, It's Charles Manson, and I'm gonna be
Speaker 5: taking it all over the place. I actually think there
Speaker 5: was an episode. I don't know, Jonathan, I texted you
Speaker 5: that might have came out out of order or something.
Speaker 3: That was on me.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, that was on me every time for some reason,
Speaker 4: every time you email me, it goes right to the
Speaker 4: junk mail. I'm like, I don't even think to even
Speaker 4: look in there, but I think you're on a list.
Speaker 4: I think you're on a list, Julia.
Speaker 5: But yeah, so if you go back and you can't
Speaker 5: find I think it's part five, it is out right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, it just I released Part five
Speaker 3: before I released Part six and then Part five.
Speaker 5: I think, okay, either way, something I can find it.
Speaker 5: And I am actually gonna have a co host on
Speaker 5: this new mini series. It lessens the burden on me definitely,
Speaker 5: and it's also a great changeup for the listeners because
Speaker 5: you know, it's just usually me talking for an hour
Speaker 5: and a half, and it's to switch things up and
Speaker 5: look at you two great co hosts. Sometimes you just
Speaker 5: need a partner in crime on some of these bigger topics.
Speaker 5: So but I think it's gonna be great. I think
Speaker 5: the listeners are really going to enjoy it. We'll have to.
Speaker 5: It's Colby from Conspiracy Playtime and he actually has researched
Speaker 5: the Laurel Canyon stuff a lot too, and we had
Speaker 5: initially started working together talking about that. So this with
Speaker 5: the program to Kill and everything, this is going to
Speaker 5: be a great matchup. But he uh has a lot
Speaker 5: of interesting theories like I do about Sharon Tate and
Speaker 5: the West Memphis three, and I think that's gonna be
Speaker 5: a really cool new series coming out. But we'll have
Speaker 5: to meet up again before, not before, we'll have to
Speaker 5: meet up again after the next series is over, and
Speaker 5: we'll rehash everything. We'll do this again.
Speaker 4: We definitely can. Well, Julia, you've been doing great work.
Speaker 4: I know the good cult members love you very much.
Speaker 4: They look forward to the Saturday events. And I mean
Speaker 4: it's murder conspiracies. So if you're into murder crimes and
Speaker 4: murder conspiracies and who did it and why did they
Speaker 4: do it and really getting into all the details, Julia
Speaker 4: is somebody who can absolutely break this down. And in
Speaker 4: my opinion, whenever I listen back to it, it really
Speaker 4: seems like you're going through all of these facts and
Speaker 4: you know little parts of the story just with a
Speaker 4: fine tooth comb. The amount of details that you're going
Speaker 4: into it, I appreciate it whenever you listen, whenever you
Speaker 4: look into it. So if you're looking for somebody who
Speaker 4: actually loves this stuff, like an actual love, there's a
Speaker 4: difference between liking and loving. Whenever you're looking into a topic,
Speaker 4: like you know, the people that love it, it automatically
Speaker 4: is going to be way better.
Speaker 3: And so that's just the way it is.
Speaker 4: That's why you love the Cult of Conspiracy so much,
Speaker 4: because we love what we do, right Jacob.
Speaker 1: Oh, dude, this is still this is still a passion project,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It hasn't really sunk in yet.
Speaker 1: This is our quote unquote full time job. That's I
Speaker 1: still have yet to see it that way. This is
Speaker 1: still this crazy hobby and this like crazy thing that
Speaker 1: we're doing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, but I love it. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's the best job in the world. I wouldn't rather
Speaker 4: be doing anything, to be honest with you, dude, because
Speaker 4: it's like, you know, yeah, we're keeping up with what's
Speaker 4: going on in the world and stuff like that, but
Speaker 4: looking at it with a slanted eye and with that
Speaker 4: third eye all the way open and saying, ah.
Speaker 3: This smells a little stinky.
Speaker 4: So let's get to where that rotting flesh smell is
Speaker 4: is actually coming from. And you know, that's just part
Speaker 4: of the find.
Speaker 5: I really appreciate that you guys thought of me when
Speaker 5: you were thinking about who to feature, because I'm very
Speaker 5: appreciative of it. I'm very grateful for it because I
Speaker 5: have actually reached a lot of new listeners that I
Speaker 5: wouldn't have otherwise. And you know, Saturdays are for the
Speaker 5: sinners and Sundays are for the saints. And I'm sure
Speaker 5: Josh Monday is doing his thing on Sundays too, And
Speaker 5: I just think this is great. I love working with
Speaker 5: you guys.
Speaker 4: Oh yes, well, I mean we love it as well,
Speaker 4: and it's been going really good. I'm happy that that
Speaker 4: it's worked out this way.
Speaker 1: It's really uh. I think it kind of makes us
Speaker 1: more diverse, honestly. Like so within the conspiracy realm, within
Speaker 1: the truth Or realm, there seems to be a few
Speaker 1: key things that stand out above all else, right, and
Speaker 1: flat earth is one of them. And within that camp
Speaker 1: you have the Christian or religious flat earthers and you
Speaker 1: have the questioning science flat earthers. And I'm not throwing
Speaker 1: shade at either or, but there seems to be a
Speaker 1: very Christian flat earth vibe within the truth Or community
Speaker 1: right now. So, like when we thought about who we'd
Speaker 1: bring on for that, clearly Josh Monday is.
Speaker 2: The guy with that same mindset.
Speaker 1: There seems to be a trend of murder mysteries, of
Speaker 1: serial killers, of these types of things within the conspiracy
Speaker 1: and truth or community. And when we decided that we
Speaker 1: needed to do that, of course, there was nobody else
Speaker 1: that we thought of, Like you were literally the only
Speaker 1: person that we even considered same same thing when we're
Speaker 1: talking about cryptids with the strange brew And we do
Speaker 1: in fact have a couple of other things up our.
Speaker 2: Sleeves, dear cult members, that we're not gonna spoil anything on.
Speaker 1: We're not even gonna tease on right now, but just
Speaker 1: know we got a couple more things in the works.
Speaker 1: So uh, the next few months are going to be
Speaker 1: very wild, and I feel like our content is only
Speaker 1: going to get more in depth, more diverse, and cover
Speaker 1: more ground.
Speaker 2: I am excited for the future.
Speaker 5: Bro Man, my phone blows up like every freaking day
Speaker 5: with Cult of Conspiracy new episode. I'm like, damn, I
Speaker 5: am really fucking like I need to step my game up. Hey,
Speaker 5: you guys have new content. It's it's actually really awesome
Speaker 5: that you're able to put out new shows like what
Speaker 5: every day or what?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean hey, look, I'm it is a hobby,
Speaker 4: don't get me wrong, but.
Speaker 3: It's also a way of life.
Speaker 4: And Jacob, I don't know about you, but I feel
Speaker 4: weird if there's ever a day that I'm not behind
Speaker 4: the mic.
Speaker 3: Do you ever feel that way?
Speaker 1: I feel I'm gonna be honest a little bit and
Speaker 1: a little guilty, Like I feel bad. And it's not
Speaker 1: because I'm like that dedicated to the work, but it's
Speaker 1: more like, God, I feel like we could be doing
Speaker 1: something right now, Like I either a could be researching something,
Speaker 1: be we like could be talking with somebody right now, because.
Speaker 2: Like, I fucking love this. This is absolutely best job
Speaker 2: ever had my life.
Speaker 4: Jacob, could you imagine, like, like one day comes and
Speaker 4: you're no longer a podcaster, how boring would your days be?
Speaker 3: Bro Like if it went to that one day.
Speaker 1: I don't I can't see me not on the mic
Speaker 1: unless we get canceled to some level where people and
Speaker 1: I mean all even our cult members fucking hate us
Speaker 1: or some shit.
Speaker 5: I can just see Jacob with his mic sitting in
Speaker 5: front of the TV watching ancient aliens just talking at
Speaker 5: it and be like this that's what happened.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's gonna be that crazy guy no, but I mean,
Speaker 7: this is even like having conversations with people like this
Speaker 7: because like, I don't see this it's weird because we're.
Speaker 1: On this side of it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: the people listening to this, the good cult members out
Speaker 1: there who truly love the content that we put out
Speaker 1: and find good information in the things we do, and
Speaker 1: all that we love you all dearly.
Speaker 2: We could not do this without you.
Speaker 1: All of that being said, we don't see us from
Speaker 1: their angle, you know what I mean. I see this
Speaker 1: as me and my best friend bring on these these
Speaker 1: wild people. Some of them are like off the rockers,
Speaker 1: some of them are like solid and factual and everything
Speaker 1: in between, and we get to just have good deep
Speaker 1: conversations with them and make friends and make connections and
Speaker 1: network and this I see that as like this cool
Speaker 1: thing that me and my best buddy are doing.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: You make me want to throw out a oh babe, No,
Speaker 3: you know what.
Speaker 1: I mean, though, I don't see this as the a
Speaker 1: thing that like.
Speaker 2: This is going out to Oh God, all these people.
Speaker 2: We have to make sure.
Speaker 1: We're like, we don't watch our mouths, we don't like
Speaker 1: skirt around things I've called Kamala Harris a whore for months,
Speaker 1: and I will continue to do so till the day
Speaker 1: I die. Same with Killery, but like Cameltoe, Cameltoe herself.
Speaker 2: But like, I don't you see what I'm saying. I
Speaker 2: don't see this as like, oh, we have to be
Speaker 2: prime and proper. I'm wearing a flannel and PF flyers, Dude,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Hey, I'm rocking the signature tank top for one of
Speaker 4: these shows for once.
Speaker 3: Finally. It's been getting a.
Speaker 4: Little nippy out here, but I said, I got to
Speaker 4: get back to my roots. It's tank talk, tank top
Speaker 4: time over here.
Speaker 5: Dude, seeing the while, Bro, you're wearing p F flyers
Speaker 5: like sant like I am.
Speaker 4: Indeed the jet that is why he bought those.
Speaker 3: Actually I knew it.
Speaker 1: I knew it so and I god, I really need
Speaker 1: to see if we can get PF, the Poster Poster
Speaker 1: Pedic Foundation come to find out. Uh, we need to
Speaker 1: find out if they could sponsor us or something, because
Speaker 1: I will chill for them so hard. I love these shoes,
Speaker 1: and not just because of the movie. I love because
Speaker 1: these are seriously really fucking comfortable and durable.
Speaker 2: But uh, yeah, can.
Speaker 5: You outrun a great No.
Speaker 1: No, I have that breed of dog because of that movie.
Speaker 1: So this is in fact, it's.
Speaker 5: Got the all black ones too, just.
Speaker 2: Like Oh I have the Sandlot addition, the company came.
Speaker 6: Out with it.
Speaker 5: Oh I found these.
Speaker 1: I found a coupon, picked these up for seventy bucks,
Speaker 1: meilut to my door. I was like, oh, there's no
Speaker 1: way I'm not snagging those. Oh my god, every bit
Speaker 1: of my inner child screamed. But yeah, my dog, Harley
Speaker 1: is an English mastiff and English yeah okay. And could
Speaker 1: I outrun her in these yes, but mostly because she's
Speaker 1: like a huge dog. Now, I will say this, if
Speaker 1: that dog ever decided that she wanted somebody, there ain't
Speaker 1: nothing I gonna do to stop her. That that dog
Speaker 1: has is stronger than I am, by all metrics.
Speaker 3: Oh, you were right.
Speaker 4: So the the PF in PF Flyers stands for Posture Foundation.
Speaker 2: Ohone. I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: The only reason I knew that is because when I
Speaker 1: opened up the shoe to look on the inside, the
Speaker 1: insul says that, and it's like their big logo, and
Speaker 1: I'm like.
Speaker 3: Oh, a New Balance. New Balance bought them in two
Speaker 3: thousand and three. Or two thousand and one, two and three,
Speaker 3: I think, you.
Speaker 2: Know, and I'm not mad at it. They brought back
Speaker 2: this show and I'm happy.
Speaker 1: It's like Indian, that motorcycle brand being bought out by Polaris. Yes,
Speaker 1: I wasn't happy about it, but I'm also happy to
Speaker 1: see Indians back on the road.
Speaker 2: So you got to take what you can get, you.
Speaker 3: Know, you got to.
Speaker 4: You know, there's a there's a clip that you mentioned
Speaker 4: earlier from a movie is that is one of my
Speaker 4: favorites of all time that I just absolutely we must
Speaker 4: watch it if we're okay with that, Okay, let me uh,
Speaker 4: let me share this because this is an actual classic.
Speaker 3: And here we go.
Speaker 2: And I will say this too.
Speaker 1: For anybody who has not watched the movie Pineapple Express
Speaker 1: high on marijuana, it's incorrect.
Speaker 2: You're incorrect.
Speaker 5: You simply if you're high, it's.
Speaker 2: A part of it. At least once in your life.
Speaker 1: It's like doing the Wizard of Oz with the pink
Speaker 1: Floyd in the background. You simply must at least once
Speaker 1: in your life. And with that roll of the clip.
Speaker 8: Sir, okay, Private Miller, you've been smoking item nine for
Speaker 8: seven minutes and thirteen seconds We're going to ask you
Speaker 8: several questions.
Speaker 3: How do you feel?
Speaker 7: Well, sir?
Speaker 3: I feel like a like a slice of butter.
Speaker 9: Melton on top of them.
Speaker 3: Big old Pilo flat jacks.
Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, Private, mother, you think of your superiors, what.
Speaker 8: Emotions do you feel?
Speaker 9: Let's say, Private Miller, is this normal? Okay? Private, okay,
Speaker 9: Private Miller, Privy Miller, answer the question.
Speaker 8: This one out, sir, gonna do you torch Met's send.
Speaker 5: Someone in.
Speaker 3: Holy but Jesus.
Speaker 9: Privy Miller answer the question.
Speaker 6: What was the question? Again, sir?
Speaker 9: When you think of your superiors, what emotions do you feel?
Speaker 5: You know a problem I have with your fucking little
Speaker 5: dog and poniac.
Speaker 3: You call the military here? It is one lots of dudes.
Speaker 3: Where are the boobies?
Speaker 6: Two?
Speaker 3: Why are we underground right now?
Speaker 9: Sir?
Speaker 3: Why can't we be out in the open.
Speaker 9: Why aren't we in a square right now?
Speaker 2: Why aren't we talking to people?
Speaker 1: Letting him know?
Speaker 9: Item non exist?
Speaker 3: Get it out, shout out the rooftops.
Speaker 9: This is great.
Speaker 3: This is the bee's knees.
Speaker 5: Item nine.
Speaker 6: Private.
Speaker 2: We need you to be serious.
Speaker 5: I'm serious.
Speaker 3: You're dick my mouth.
Speaker 6: Eh, that's inappropriate. Uh fuck you I've seen enough, shut
Speaker 6: it down, Harry the hatch, sell the land and.
Speaker 2: Just follos of him.
Speaker 6: This never happened, dude, what happened to your on?
Speaker 5: Hey?
Speaker 2: Hello, welk blurt.
Speaker 7: Can you guys understand me?
Speaker 6: And where we're going?
Speaker 2: This is General Bratt.
Speaker 6: We've reached the final conclusion on item nine.
Speaker 3: Such a classic scene.
Speaker 1: And that guy who screamed illegal in the phone that
Speaker 1: the ipadch General guy. His first acting role was in
Speaker 1: The Warriors.
Speaker 2: Seen that movie?
Speaker 3: Oh The Warriors? Yeah, bro, he was, he was.
Speaker 2: One of them. I rewatched that recently. Holy fucking classic, bro.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's it's it's uh stood the test
Speaker 4: through time, which that reminds me. I need to watch
Speaker 4: Terminator for the first time. I need to get on that.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, John, Yeah, I can't say shit.
Speaker 1: I still haven't watched any of the Marvel movies for
Speaker 1: a embarrassingly long amount of time.
Speaker 2: So, like I'm with you, we all got our homework
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 1: I will say, though, Terminator one, because of what we're
Speaker 1: used to with computer animation and like graphics, it's gonna
Speaker 1: kind of suck to get through. I will say, great story,
Speaker 1: great story, just it's gonna suck. It's an eighties movie, hardcore.
Speaker 1: The Terminator two is what I personally call the golden
Speaker 1: standard of cinematography.
Speaker 2: That's just my humble opinion.
Speaker 3: And they upted that much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, T two is is kind.
Speaker 1: Of I would say a masterpiece honestly, Okay, personal opinion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you you be the judge.
Speaker 1: It's almost like the perfect amount of CGI but also
Speaker 1: the perfect amount of actual real world stuntmen being used
Speaker 1: for the crazy shots, and like, that's what I'm saying
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 2: It was almost just perfect.
Speaker 1: T three they kind of leaned hard into the female
Speaker 1: antagonist a bit much, and then the rest of the
Speaker 1: Sarah Kana chronicles. I couldn't tell you they're doing their
Speaker 1: own shit now, but as far as the movies go,
Speaker 1: it's it's worth the watch.
Speaker 2: Brother.
Speaker 3: Okay, I gotta get on that.
Speaker 4: But look, Julia, I know you got things to do
Speaker 4: and stuff to do as well. Could you let all
Speaker 4: of our cult members if maybe this is their first
Speaker 4: ever time listening to you, just out of curiosity, maybe
Speaker 4: they want to know where can I find this cosmic
Speaker 4: p chat?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Thanks, you can find me on the Cult of Conspiracy.
Speaker 5: Every Saturday. But if you want to get more from
Speaker 5: just me and my show, you know, google it if
Speaker 5: it'll allow you to find me. I'm just kidding. I'm
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Speaker 5: I have Patreon, just like the Cult. If you're absolutely
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Speaker 5: it's been great working with you guys on this, on
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Speaker 5: from Cult listeners and uh, it's been it's been really cool.
Speaker 3: Actually, hell yeah.
Speaker 1: Dude, I do love that how active our listeners are.
Speaker 1: Like seriously, the good Cult members like they be hitting
Speaker 1: guests up a lot. I mean, you, Julie, you're not
Speaker 1: just a guest. I mean, hell, you're a part of
Speaker 1: this thing at this point. But I mean I'll say
Speaker 1: that to your point of like people be hitting you
Speaker 1: up on it, like, man, we have had some guests
Speaker 1: come on that like they're like, dude, I had like
Speaker 1: fifty messages the next day, what the hell?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, it'd be like that.
Speaker 4: And do whenever your third eyes all the way open,
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Speaker 3: And why not just go right to the source. I
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