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Speaker 1: Welcome to the best sports betting show on the planet.

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This is Wager Talk Today. I'm your host, Andy Lang.

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It is Thursday, jam packed Lineup. Johnny's back with an

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episode of the Steam Report. We're gonna talk NFL, college football,

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and of course Major League Baseball. We're gonna dive into

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college football. We're gonna break down a Major League Baseball game,

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and of course we're gonna preview Thursday Night Football. Uh Jordanier,

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He's gonna break down the game and I'm gonna give

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you some props here at the end. So if you're

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betting tonight or this weekend, this is the show that

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gets you ready to turn a profit. Thank you so

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much for joining us. Going hit that like button. No

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time to waste. Let's bring in Gianni for the Steam Report. Johnny,

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I hope you had a good couple of days. It's Thursday.

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I know you're busy. We're gonna start off with NFL.

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What do we seeing?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Sorry, just sending this out real quickly. All play tokay

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in so far tonight, believe it or not.

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Speaker 4: Since it's settled.

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Speaker 3: It's good two way action and you usually get that

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on double digit favorites in the NFL, like, no one's

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really in any big rush to go out there lay

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double digits, and if you're getting double digits, no one's.

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Speaker 4: Probably in a rush to go out there and back you.

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Speaker 3: So it's one of those standalone games that it's almost

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like an MMA main event with a heavy favorite, where

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you're kind of forced to get a little creative. And

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that's what you're seeing because everybody that's betting Buffalo tonight,

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they're betting them in different ways, like they're teasing them

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with a bunch of stuff for someday, They're using them

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on moneyline parlays, they're betting them in the first half,

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they're betting them team total over, like they're finding different

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ways to bet Buffalo instead of having to lay that

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heavy chalk. We know that immediately we saw short money

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come in on Buffalo on the look ahead. The look

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ahead was like nine and a half, ten and a half.

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It got its highs like thirteen thirteen and a half,

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and that's where you saw take back on the Miami side,

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which isn't surprising. And that's why we say when you're

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following your odds logic screen or at the very least

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your wager talk on screen, make sure you click that

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matchup and look at where that line was and when

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did it settle, because a lot of times we're seeing

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big movements in the NFL, but it's based on the

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look ahead. Because again this week, while we're watching Week

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three games, there'll be lines for Week four that are

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being bet but the limits are low, and that's why

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you see some of these two to three point line movements.

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But then after everyone opens up, you're not seeing much movement.

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And that's kind of like here now if everyone's eleven

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and a half across the board, and you're seeing pretty

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good two way action again with the risk being on

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the Buffalo side, Like if Miami won this game outright,

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that would probably be the best possible outcome for.

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Speaker 4: The sportsbooks, you know what I mean. It's a long shot,

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but that's pretty much what they're doing. The total. They're

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betting it over. No surprise there.

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Speaker 3: You saw sharp money come in on the over, but

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at forty eight and a half and forty nine. Since then,

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it's in the public betting it over fifty to fifty

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and a half fifty one's so they're going to tie

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it in, tease it with the over in tonight's game.

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Speaker 4: That's pretty much what's going on again.

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Speaker 3: Not the sexiest standalone game, but already getting some action.

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Speaker 1: Let's move to Sunday. Are we seeing anything major in Sunday?

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I know, quarterback injuries have you know, really kind of

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dominated some of these big line moves, But most of

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the numbers seem to be settled in anything jumping off

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the page to you.

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Speaker 4: The Colts.

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Speaker 3: The Colts immediately the look ahead got bet and then

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through that key number got hit as well. Like they

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laid the two look ahead, they laid the three minus

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one twenty and that's why you're looking at three and

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a halfs and fours. It's probably been impossible right now

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to find a three and a half out there. Same

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thing with Atlanta. The look ahead was two and a

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half and three that's what got hit, and then they

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brought out four and a half on Monday and that got.

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Speaker 4: Hit as well.

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Speaker 3: And that's why you're looking at five and a half's

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right now. But at any shop that went the six,

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we saw take back on Carolina, So six or higher

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you're gonna get some aren't money on Carolina, Which for

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the books that's a good sign because now they know

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if they keep getting one sided Atlanta money. If they

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want to limit that risk a little, all they have

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to do is go to six and there'll be some

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takers there.

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Speaker 4: They could write some action on the other side.

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Speaker 3: If you don't see them go to six, especially Sunday,

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then rest as short, they're taking a position.

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Speaker 4: On Carolina, huh, because it's been.

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Speaker 3: One side of Atlanta from the public, and that'll be

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one of the more one sided teased games as well.

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Speaker 4: Vegas, Vegas got a hit. We actually bet Vegas today again,

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I'll share that with you.

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Speaker 3: I bet Vegas for them at the look Ahead at

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six and a half and six, and I figured, okay,

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they just asked me to go and bet that here

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in cash because I figured that line is just not

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going to be available anywhere. So it's just someone that

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wants to take advantage of the number the most. I

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think we got down like fifteen hundred on it. Make

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a long story short. They brought it out at like

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five and a half. That gets hit yesterday, four and

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a half gets hit today.

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Speaker 4: Take the three and a half. Like take the three

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and a half. So the same group that was willing

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to take six and a half on the on Vegas

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came back and also took three and a half. On Vegas.

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Speaker 3: That's rare because almost always you're going to see the

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opposite happen, where they get the six and a half

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and it goes down to three and a half and

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they may buy and if it don't get the three,

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they'll buy back a little bit. Have a small middle working,

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you know what I mean, in a great middle, but

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it ain't the worst middle either. But that did not

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happen here. Also, the under the under, the look at

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it was forty seven and a half the first limit

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that it took, they went right to forty.

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Speaker 5: Four and a half.

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Speaker 4: Since then it hasn't gotten any action.

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Speaker 3: So don't look at it as if it's been steamed

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under because it's a three point move. It's nothing could

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be further from the truth. It took a limit better

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two to move it three full points. SINCINNTI, Minnesota under

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forty seven and a half and forty six and a

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half was to look ahead. They came in and hit

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the under forty three as well. Those are what you

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want to pay attend to what has followed through and

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I'm going long. Finally, Dallas and Chicago over over over

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the look at forty six and a half to forty eight.

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Now they're hitting forty eight, forty nine, forty nine and

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a halfs and fifties over and finally on Monday night

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Detroit plus the six and a half and six, And

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that's why you're looking at five five and a half's

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right now. So busy an NFL already, but it's only

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going to get more action as we approach the weekend.

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Speaker 1: I know where I stand on this. I'm curious where

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you stand and where are some of the groups that

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you work with backup quarterbacks and how much they affect

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the lines and what the books do with them. I

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find that there can be an incredible amount of volume

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or an incredible amount of value if you like one

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of the backup quarterbacks, because I feel like sometimes the

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books are a little vanilla with how they price some

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of these lines. So there's some backup quarterbacks that I

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think are legit. What do some of the groups agree with?

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Speaker 4: Bro?

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Speaker 3: Nothing could be further from the truth. You're one hundred

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on point. You're right. They are so mispriced. See because

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and not everybody, not every quarterback is worth the same.

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And even though like we look at like a Tom

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Brady during his era as a you know, an.

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Speaker 4: Elite level a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Okay, the comparison is the drop off, not how good

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Tom is, but what is the difference between Tom and

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his backup?

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Speaker 4: Like, what's the drop off? And I think that's where.

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Speaker 3: A lot of the mispricing comes because we see these

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stud quarterbacks, we think they're amazing, but maybe the drop

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off between number one number two isn't that great where

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other teams he may be a bad quarterback to begin with,

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but then the drop off is also really steve, So

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we underestimate, thinking, Okay, this guy sucked already, so are

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they really losing anything? But if the back off is

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just three x worse, then that adjustment should be even greater.

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And I think, you know, you could really take advantage

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of that. Marco calls it the injured player theory. You know,

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I've learned a lot working with Mark all those years,

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and because we overreact, we think players are worth more

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to the betting line than they are, especially quarterbacks. And

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if you're not getting ahead of an injury, which almost

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none of us can in today's world with social.

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Speaker 4: Media, you're not getting ahead of the market.

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Speaker 3: I think you take advantage of it that way, like

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you just touched on, wait for the market to overreact

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and think the players work more than he is, because

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then it's the perfect storm for value. Like you touched on,

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not only are you getting more points than you should,

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but now you're getting a motivated team because, bro, we

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got to step up.

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Speaker 4: We got our number two today. You can't lax, you

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know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: We ain't got Brady behind center to pull us through,

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so everybody else levels up their game as well. So

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it's the perfect storm to get value on a team

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with an injured quarterback. I love I love that handicap.

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I look for it all the time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Browning is serviceable. Yes, there's a drop

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off to Burrow to Browning. How big of it, how

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big of a difference? I don't know. I think Mariota

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played good last year for Washington. I know you're on Vegas,

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but I don't know. There's just some of these quarterback now,

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Carson Wentz I'm terrified of, and probably probably Gianni because

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I watched him here in Indianapolis and it was one

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of the most most horrible quarterbacking I've ever seen. So

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you're gonna be hard pressed to get me to bet

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on Carson Wentz, but I'm just mentally scarred from some

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of the throws.

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Speaker 4: That could I touch real quickly.

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Speaker 3: On Sean's question, great question, he said, I know parlays

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are negative EV usually, but he got Colds three and

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a half, Falcons three and a half, and Cardinals two

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and a half.

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Speaker 4: And here's what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 3: Why it's so hard to argue that three leg four

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leg five leg parlays can be profitable because you had

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to place that at that same property at that same time.

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And when I look at my board right now, I

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could get Arizona plus two and a half. So you

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got a bad number on Arizona again. Is that one

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point going to matter? Probably not, But just the fact

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that now I could get a better number than what

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you had to lock it in with defeats the purpose

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of beating the market and placing plus EV bets, because again,

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it just it's so hard to do when you have

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to place them all at the same time. Maybe you

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could argue a two leg parlay, you could beat the

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get a good number at the same problem, but once

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you get into those four leg five leg parlays, it's

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very hard to argue that at that exact moment of time,

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at that exact property, you got the best numbers on

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your parlay.

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Speaker 4: It's tough to do.

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Speaker 1: Let's move to college football. Uh, the one I talked

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about when you were gone is this Army in North

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Texas game that's just like completely flip flopped here. What

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was an Army minus two and a half? Now it's

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North Texas? It was minus two and a half yesterday

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And we talked about it. Money's coming in that. That

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seems like a crazy game. Any other games that you

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see some pretty aggressive moves.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I want to share a nun yet that

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Marco shared on bet on It with that and he said,

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now with the you know, college players getting paid in

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NHIL and all of that, the service academies are going

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to start falling further and further behind. They're just not

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going to be able to pay these guys to like

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except for the Patriots, you know what I mean. That

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happened to be you know, five star recruits. It's going

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to be hard for them to compete and get out

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go out there and get players over the next few

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seasons and see why the market's disagreeing there with the

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Army side now real quickly. Weekday games, Charlotte plus four

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and a half, all the way down to that key

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number of three they took. Then Friday they took Tulsa

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plus thirteen, Tulsa plus twelve.

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Speaker 5: And a half.

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Speaker 3: You touched on North Texas game three on nine, we

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bet them at plus two and a half. That's now,

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I haven't seen any resistance yet, like they're not betting

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the opposite side trying to middle that three twenty Miami,

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Ohio plus three three and a half, three forty Wisconsin

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minus seven and seven and a half.

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Speaker 4: That's opposite the public. I know a lot of money

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opposite Wisconsin.

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Speaker 3: Michigan Michigan minus one and a half and money line

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bet simultaneously as well as over forty four and forty

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four and a half.

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Speaker 4: Duke three thirty two.

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Speaker 3: Minus to two and a half ECU East Carolina plus

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the seven seven and a half. Last game on the

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board Hawaii plus three and a half and three, and

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then today it came in on Central Florida minus six

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and a half, and that one had already moved, so

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they came in again and hit the Central Florida side.

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That's why you're looking at seven and they also went

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under fifty one and fifty and a half in Toledo,

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Western Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Let's move to baseball yesterday, Johnny, there was a very

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there was a strange game. It was the Oakland Boston

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game where like all the money and all the tickets

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were on Boston, the line was going the complete opposite direction.

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We had a chat here. It was like, oh no,

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when all the money's going one way and the lion's

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going the other way, like look out tray to. The

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game went to extra innings. Boston ended up pulling it out,

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But yeah, it was it was an interesting It was

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an interesting game to monitor on on how much money

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was on one side, yet the books were saying lions

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going the other way. So what are we seeing here

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on Major League Baseball Slate today?

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Speaker 3: All right, and real quickly for Michael Mail, I know

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I don't play three team ten point teasers. I used

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to do three team six point teasers. They used to

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pay plus one eighty. There were books that made the mistake.

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So check out your your book. If they're paying you

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three team teasers at six points and you'd get plus

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one eighty, that's like getting the two team six point

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teas are at even money. So if you just want

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it and go through three six seven, you got about

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a five and a half percent edge on every bet.

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So if you can get a three team six point

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teaser at plus one eighty, you got a five and

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a half percent edge. Don't mess that up. Looking at

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baseball today, it's the Uglies Athletics nine sixty three, Athletics

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plus one forty plus one thirty five even New York

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Mets nine fifty two minus one twenty minus one twenty

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five anti Republic on Miami, Colorado.

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Speaker 4: They went under ten and a half.

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Speaker 3: It's now at ten and the public's betting that one

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over like they have tomorrow's paper, Seattle in a in

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a fight for the West laying minus one oh five

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and finally Chalky, but they bet the Yankees nine to

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sixty seven and the over at eight and a half

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even money.

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Speaker 4: So it's a little MLB for you as well today.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, real quick, I gotta have you tell the

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story about Contender series. So on Tuesday I said that

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there was a guy and he was part of our

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five dollars Tuesday play. You better, you better better believe

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we were faith in that guy said, there's a guy

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that has tattoos and social media following. I think that's

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why he's fighting, because he's terrible. And then he went

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out and he laid a complete a can you tell

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everyone the inside story in the top.

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Speaker 3: We were in the production meeting for that fight, and

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you saw that was the one fight. I didn't even

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get to go on and give a pick for it

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because it was like we thought. We thought that by

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the time that the fight goes, it'll be like minus

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seven eight hundred, so you know what I mean, because

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it kept going off and we were just confused, why

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the line's not moving off, like from two hundred three

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hundred four hundred, Why is it not doing that? And

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I think it was the look of the guy because

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even that the fighters that weren't mean, We're like, dude,

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we got to get this dude to contract.

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Speaker 4: We need him on here. His his message was you've

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got to love this.

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Speaker 3: He wanted to be rich and famous, okay, but then

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he realized he don't want to be.

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Speaker 4: Rich, he just wants to be famous. Conclusion, I didn't

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I had enough on that.

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Speaker 1: I didn't bet enough on that fight.

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Speaker 3: Keep your money, bro, keep your money. Bring me my fame.

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That's all I need. You can have your cash.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, that's my guy.

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Speaker 4: We're following him all the way to the PFL.

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Speaker 1: Oh I can't I can't wait to bet against that guy.

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I don't care where he's fighting. Uh and uh. Okay,

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I have I have a very important question for you.

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This has been a topic on the show that you're

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not on. How do I pronounce your first name.

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Speaker 4: Yanni? It's really Yanni, Yannika.

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Speaker 3: My initial birth certificate if you what said Gioannis Ioannis,

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because it's really Leohannis. So they wrote it like Joannis.

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And in school I used to be embarrassed first day

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every day every year, they'd be like Joannis and they

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would think, let's start making fun of me. And then

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I got the like little League, and I begged my

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parents to change my name, like please legally change my name,

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give me an American name. And there the thing was John.

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I was like Saint John. And that's what they put

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on my burst on like redid a birth certificate, but

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it's really Yanni.

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Speaker 1: That's really okay, Yanni. Okay, I got you. People get

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confused because my legal name is Andy, and they just

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automatically think it's Andrew and sometimes I've asked you that

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my well, my insurance company did it once and I

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had a claim and they were like, you're not Andrew Lang.

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We wrote your name down wrong and they tried to

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argue because they wrote my name down wrong. So all right,

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we now have a fit yes blocked. Uh, yes, we

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all We all now have confirmation. Yanni, Yes, Johanni, we

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got you. All right, Yannie, tell her what you have

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up on this Thursday tonight.

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Speaker 3: I know it's not the sexiest game, but I got

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a five percent. Listen if if market, if they match

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up warrants it, I'm going to fire it again. You

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want to wait for the busiest time of the weekend,

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hit them on Saturday and Sunday, but it warrants it again.

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You don't go crazy because it's only one percent more

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than my four percent, and we only bet a quarter

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of that, So that just real lightly, just to put

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in perspective, if I have a ten thousand dollars bank roll,

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I recommend my guys bet one hundred dollars four percent.

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They're bet one twenty five on a five percent, So

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I'm not downplaying it, but I just don't want you

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to go crazy with that said. Currently number one in

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NFL in college football combined for twenty twenty five. I

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got my Saturday package up for college football. I got

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my Sunday package up for the NFL. But we're starting

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tonight with a five percent on the Dolphins and Bill's game.

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So join me and let's do some damage.

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Speaker 4: Let's have a big couple of days. So far, so good.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me, Andy lanth and best the luck

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to you, my brother.

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Speaker 1: You too, Yannie. Let's do this, brother, Let's have it right.

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So that was good. So yes, listen, hey, I've heard

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I've heard his name pronounced a bunch of different ways,

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but now we heard it from him. I feel embarrassed

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that I haven't asked him before this. That's that was

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the big mistake. The big mistake was just not asking

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him before. My god, he's on the show every day.

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What are we doing here? So all right, let's bring on.

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Now I know how to pronounce Joe Nary's name. Joe's

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got an easy name. Is it Joe? Yes, it's it's Joe.

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Let's let's bring on Joe and Eerie Joe. Happy Thursday.

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How are you today?

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Speaker 6: What's happening.

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Speaker 7: Andy, I'm shocked it took it out long to figure

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out VR's real name there and how to pronounce it.

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Speaker 1: I I feel failed. That was really bad on my part.

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I think I just kind of got into the well

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he never corrected me. That was the other thing is

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I just called him that, and you know, just tell

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me however however you want me to pronounce it. It's like, uh,

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how Bijon Robinson? Everyone called him Bijon And after like

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how long in the NFL he was like, by the way,

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everyone's pronouncing my name wrong, Like, well it's up, dude. Yeah,

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you could have chimed in just a little bit sooner.

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Speaker 6: Hey man, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: No names are secondary.

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Speaker 1: Uh so we're gonna talk Thursday night football. Here, we

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got this Bill's and Dolphins game, and then we're gonna

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we're gonna talk Tulsa and uh you're boys boys Oklahoma State.

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Let's start with NFL is king, I know what the

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spread is and we all know the story. Let me

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ask you this, when was the last time a coach

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was on a big time hot seat like this and

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the team just rallied around him and was like Nope,

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we're gonna fight our tails off on the road on

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a short week and we're gonna save this guy's job.

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It kind of feels like it doesn't really happen here.

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What's your breakdown on this game?

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Speaker 7: Well, I can tell you down here in South Florida

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from the guys that I've talked to that cover this team, Andy,

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they've been trying to do everything in their power to

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get rid of him for a while now, and for

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some reason he's still there. But that depending on what

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happens here tonight. Stephen Ross, the owner of the Miami Dolphins,

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there was talk of there being an ultimatum this year

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with not just him, but the GM Greer as well.

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They had a lot of malcontents in that locker room

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eight year ago, and namely one of them was you

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know Ramsey, who's no longer there. He's with Pittsburgh, but

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they still have Tyreek Hill. He was the other guy

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that was the big issue, and they still him. Intua

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can't get on the same page. So yeah, lack of leadership,

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guys showing up late, I mean, you name it.

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Speaker 6: I have heard it here.

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Speaker 7: And judging from the fact that you've allowed not one

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but two teams here, one being led by Drake Mady

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other by Danny Dimes, and this team has allowed them

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to score what wrap up thirty three points in each

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one of those games.

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Speaker 6: What is Josh Allen going to put on them here tonight?

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Speaker 7: This offense of Buffalo short week, they haven't won in

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Buffalo and Orchard Park since twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 6: This is either going to be extremely.

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Speaker 7: Ugly here or Buffalo is going to just go through

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the motions here and just hurry up and try and

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get the win and get a little extra rest before

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next week. Because the injuries are piling up on the

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defensive side of the ball of them.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what to do side told, I mean,

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fifty and a half is monstrous. You know Buffalo is

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going to do their park. Can I even get there?

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And what do you do with double digits? And in

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the past you like, do you like laying points with

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this or you just say, yeah, that's too many points.

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I can't get there short weeks.

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Speaker 7: I never look at anybody but home teams anyway, but

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I would cut this game in half.

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Speaker 6: Andy.

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Speaker 7: I think that what's gonna happen here is the Buffalo

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Bills are going to do what they've done to both

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the Jets right lesser teams. They're going to boat race

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them early at home in Orchard Park. If you've noticed,

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Buffalo is all of a sudden becoming a power running team.

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Now they are going to run the ball down your throat,

478
00:21:46,599 --> 00:21:49,400
and it's not going to be just Josh Allen tucking

479
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,440
it and running it. It is going to be everybody, Davis,

480
00:21:53,599 --> 00:21:56,079
It's going to be cook It's they have done an

481
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,519
amazing job and gone out of their way to make

482
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sure that they can run the with that offensive line

483
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,079
and not have to drop Josh Allen back. So the

484
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,680
number is seven early in here. The idea that Miami

485
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,240
is somehow gonna go toe to toe and try to

486
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go point for point with Buffalo, I just don't see

487
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,759
it happening. They're gonna try, because they can't play keep away.

488
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,160
That's impossible. So I'm gonna take Buffalo to have a

489
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,240
double digit lead in the first half and then use

490
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that running game to milk the clock in the second

491
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half and get out of there without any more injuries.

492
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Speaker 1: I agree with that assessment. I thought Buffalo kind of

493
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,559
showed their cards last year towards the end. Hey we

494
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,480
need to run. We can't get Josh Allen dropping it

495
00:22:39,519 --> 00:22:42,519
back fifty times a game. I drafted James Cook in

496
00:22:42,799 --> 00:22:45,079
Big My Big Fantasy League, so I was a believer

497
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,440
in this. So all right, we're looking at the first

498
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:52,319
half there, Tulsa, Oklahoma State. Listen, good news. I don't

499
00:22:52,319 --> 00:22:55,640
think Oklahoma State has to worry about getting beat by

500
00:22:55,680 --> 00:23:00,559
sixty six points this week. They are the favorite facing

501
00:23:01,039 --> 00:23:04,599
a Tulsa team, and they got this total, big total here,

502
00:23:04,839 --> 00:23:08,000
fifty four and a half. I believe in your team's offense.

503
00:23:08,039 --> 00:23:10,720
I don't know if you believe in Tulsa's offense. What's

504
00:23:10,759 --> 00:23:11,599
your take on this game?

505
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:14,079
Speaker 6: This is awful?

506
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,519
Speaker 7: Find you know, just find anything else to do but

507
00:23:16,599 --> 00:23:20,559
watch this game here. I mean, listen, we're watching the

508
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,599
end of the Mike Gundi era at Oklahoma State.

509
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,279
Speaker 6: Whether we like it or we don't, it's just run

510
00:23:26,319 --> 00:23:29,480
its course. And he's been there forever. He's been there

511
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,640
over twenty some odd years. This whole nil situation has

512
00:23:33,759 --> 00:23:37,799
changed everything. He just doesn't have the players, and not

513
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:38,960
that Tulsa does.

514
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Speaker 7: But this is a huge big brother, little brother situation

515
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,440
where they're only about an hour and twenty minutes apart

516
00:23:46,559 --> 00:23:50,160
these campuses with still Water and Tulsa here. So Tulsa's

517
00:23:50,279 --> 00:23:54,720
actually a pretty decent team. And I mean Oklahoma State's

518
00:23:54,759 --> 00:23:57,559
lost ten of their last eleven games. The only win

519
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,000
they have had in that stretch was you Team Martin

520
00:24:01,559 --> 00:24:04,319
in the opener, a twenty point win, and even that

521
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,599
wasn't put away right away.

522
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Speaker 6: So yeah, I like Tulsi.

523
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,559
Speaker 7: There's no way I can lay this many points with

524
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,000
Oklahoma State, who now is early onto their backup quarterback

525
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,960
who struggled last week. Obviously everybody struggled there against Oregon,

526
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,720
but it's just not the same Gundhy in the same

527
00:24:24,839 --> 00:24:28,480
aura where oh Gundhy at home in this spot against

528
00:24:28,559 --> 00:24:32,200
lesser teams it was it's an automatic cover. Those days

529
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,039
are long gone. It's the beginning of the end for

530
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,759
Gundy and Oklahoma State. There's only one way I would

531
00:24:37,759 --> 00:24:39,920
look and let us take these damn points here and

532
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,759
do not watch the game at all. Plus they got

533
00:24:43,039 --> 00:24:47,559
bail or next week. They're big twelve openers, so yeah,

534
00:24:47,599 --> 00:24:49,920
they might very well look past tuls here, and that

535
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,559
would be unfortunate if they lost.

536
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 1: I was looking at Tulsa over their team total at

537
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,440
twenty one and a half and a man, you couldn't

538
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,799
give me twenty and a half. You had to move

539
00:24:59,839 --> 00:25:02,640
it a half point over there. I have not watched

540
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,640
your guys defense. Trying to play defense against Oregon is

541
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,240
just everybody's gonna struggle, except some of the top teams.

542
00:25:09,519 --> 00:25:11,039
I don't know. Twenty one and a half. Is your

543
00:25:11,079 --> 00:25:12,799
defense good enough to hold him under? Because I lean

544
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,519
under at the twenty one and a half.

545
00:25:15,319 --> 00:25:18,599
Speaker 7: You'd be surprised. I think Tulsa can hang here. I

546
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,720
thought they did a really good job against Navy. As

547
00:25:21,759 --> 00:25:24,079
a matter of fact, that game was close until the

548
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,680
second half where they got a couple of extra touchdowns

549
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,559
in the fourth quarter and pulled it away. But call

550
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,839
me crazy. I mean forty two to twenty three against

551
00:25:34,279 --> 00:25:37,920
Navy last week. They were around that game a lot,

552
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,079
So I would not be shocked if they can put

553
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,640
more than three touchdowns on the board against Oklahoma State.

554
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 1: All right, and Darryl has to jump in. He's no

555
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,720
longer called Danny Dimes the Colts. Now we call him

556
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,039
Indiana Jones. I don't know if you've heard this wow

557
00:25:54,279 --> 00:25:56,839
now or not. It's low hanging fruit, but it is

558
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,559
kind of a fun a fun nickname here. I have

559
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,400
not in b I like it. It's so corny that

560
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,160
I don't even know. I like, can we give him?

561
00:26:05,319 --> 00:26:07,920
Can we give him three games maybe before we start

562
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,599
start annoying him? And just impromptu, we had a question

563
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,440
yesterday and then today, do you have any thoughts on

564
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,400
this Michigan game? What is it? Michigan Nebraska? I have

565
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,920
not researched it, but we had a couple questions on that.

566
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,240
We didn't get to it earlier. I don't know if

567
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,359
you knew anything about this game.

568
00:26:23,759 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, to me, it was a under game. That's where

569
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,799
I looked at it from a total perspective here with

570
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:33,400
these two defenses. Although I mean, listen, Riola has been good.

571
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,279
You've got the problem that I have with college football

572
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,000
right now, Andy and these young quarterbacks, these studs, is

573
00:26:40,039 --> 00:26:42,559
that they're millionaires.

574
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 6: Now.

575
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,599
Speaker 7: Andy, we've got eighteen and nineteen year old college quarterbacks

576
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,559
who are raking in seven figures in nil money here.

577
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,839
And you know, if you win a game, great, If

578
00:26:52,839 --> 00:26:57,519
you lose the game, oh wow, we're still millionaires here.

579
00:26:57,559 --> 00:27:01,279
So it's it's a different dynamic now in college football.

580
00:27:01,319 --> 00:27:04,559
You got two young, good quarterbacks. But I think the

581
00:27:04,599 --> 00:27:06,839
defenses are going to rain true here, man, I like

582
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,039
the under with Nebraska and Michigan.

583
00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: Joe, your show is awesome with pres at Art de Cazar.

584
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Tell us about that and tell everyone what you have

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586
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Speaker 7: Yeah, apparently I drew the short straw there, so I

587
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got to do the show with the pres Thank god

588
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for Art to keep us saying there, my goodness. In fact,

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Art has a lot of information about this Miami Buffalo

592
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best bets up and ready to roll here tonight. We've

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been crushing it in the MLB. Now is the time

598
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of year, these final two weeks, Andy, where the lines

599
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,039
are soft, the books sleeping, and we are cashing a

600
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whole lot of tickets with it.

601
00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: Joe, what's been working for you in MLB? I'm always interesting,

602
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,160
is it sides totals? A certain couple teams just a

603
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,160
little bit of everything.

604
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 7: I was like a lot of situational spots this time

605
00:28:15,319 --> 00:28:19,640
of year. There are clearly teams that have their tickets

606
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,920
booked on cruises and they are ready to go.

607
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 6: They got tea times lined up.

608
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,079
Speaker 7: And there are those that are still battling a lot

609
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,000
of first fives bullpens. As far as I'm concerned, not

610
00:28:30,079 --> 00:28:33,279
to be trusted on any team so far this year.

611
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So if you got an edge starting pitching, take advantage

612
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of it while you can. Here in the final two weeks.

613
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Speaker 1: Joe and Eery two MLB plays up. Go grab those. Joe,

614
00:28:42,799 --> 00:28:44,799
Thank you so much. Always good to hear from you.

615
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Take care, have a great Thursday.

616
00:28:46,559 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 6: Appreciate it.

617
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:47,359
Speaker 2: Man.

618
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Speaker 1: All right, we got Dave Mason coming up real quick.

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a grind. It's a grind. It's a grind week in

630
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I got several things to ask you got to ask

637
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about where we can beat Dave Mason. But Janni brought

638
00:29:44,759 --> 00:29:47,200
up something interesting. Dan, I wanted to ask you about

639
00:29:48,519 --> 00:29:50,680
how you move lines or adjust lines. He was talking

640
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,400
about how Buffalo's probably in a lot of money line parlays.

641
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,079
There's a lot of first tafts, there's a lot of teasers.

642
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,440
When you have a team that's like pile on and

643
00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:03,279
all those different, you know, types of areas. What do

644
00:30:03,319 --> 00:30:05,559
you do with the overall spread for the full game.

645
00:30:06,799 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's a tricky one.

646
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 6: He's right.

647
00:30:10,039 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I was just looking at that action earlier,

648
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,559
and this is a huge you know, I always tweet

649
00:30:15,559 --> 00:30:17,680
out the needs on the spread, but you know, it

650
00:30:18,039 --> 00:30:21,240
gets so more much more granular that when you're granular

651
00:30:21,279 --> 00:30:23,799
than that, when you're talking about the teaser liability and

652
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,079
the money line parlays and all that stuff. I mean,

653
00:30:27,079 --> 00:30:29,559
they're also there's so much money on these teasers and

654
00:30:29,599 --> 00:30:33,440
moneyline parlays that there's more money on that than there

655
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,880
are just straight bets on the spread end or money line,

656
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:42,640
So that that definitely comes in and the play a lot,

657
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,039
especially with a teasers. Sometimes you'll see like a minus nine,

658
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,640
you know, a plus money and stuff like that. That's

659
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,519
kind of combating teasers right there. You're trying to prevent

660
00:30:51,559 --> 00:30:54,279
people to tease in through two two key numbers to

661
00:30:54,319 --> 00:30:58,200
get more value. But you know, a game like tonight,

662
00:30:58,359 --> 00:31:02,759
it's it's only eleven and a half even though everybody's

663
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,519
on the bills, and that's because that not everybody's on

664
00:31:05,519 --> 00:31:08,200
the bills, and the Sharps are taking the Dolphins. I

665
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:13,559
mean they hit the Dolphins at twelve and thirteen, I believe.

666
00:31:13,799 --> 00:31:17,039
So you know, you're you're playing whack a mole.

667
00:31:17,079 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 5: You know you're you're you're trying to.

668
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: Cover your exposure on the the sharps, but you know

669
00:31:23,039 --> 00:31:26,000
you're giving more value on the public and then the

670
00:31:26,079 --> 00:31:29,519
money line parlays and the teasers. So you can't get

671
00:31:29,559 --> 00:31:32,240
too much value on those sharps or I'll say, just

672
00:31:32,319 --> 00:31:35,680
pound you for big money and no key that and parlays.

673
00:31:35,319 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 5: Not not that much.

674
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: But sometimes they're will if you're all off on round

675
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:39,400
robins and whatnot.

676
00:31:39,559 --> 00:31:44,119
Speaker 5: So so yeah, it's it's like whack them all, all right.

677
00:31:44,079 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: So we play beat Dave Mason, Where's where's the vulnerability?

678
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,880
Where's all the bets going? My guess was going to

679
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,240
be a bills and packers teaser. It seems like our

680
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,640
most obvious play that the public will be all over.

681
00:31:57,359 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that, that's that.

682
00:31:59,119 --> 00:32:02,279
Speaker 2: That's the popular tea either bucks are popular teaser Steahawks

683
00:32:02,279 --> 00:32:04,160
are popular teaser packers.

684
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 5: Of course tonight, like I said, well, what will let.

685
00:32:07,599 --> 00:32:10,759
Speaker 2: Me see what the percentage of teaser money's on tonight

686
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,480
n cash on teasers tonight is on the bills.

687
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,799
Speaker 5: Ninety nine percent of moneylawn parlay is on the bill.

688
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,559
So that just tells you, you know.

689
00:32:20,519 --> 00:32:22,599
Speaker 2: And that's that's a lot of volume too, there's so

690
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:27,240
much value on it. So yeah, yeah, those teasers are

691
00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:27,799
something else.

692
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,119
Speaker 5: What else is the sharp?

693
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 2: Let me do what the sharps are on Miami, Like

694
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,400
I said, twelve and thirteen tonight, A little bit of

695
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,119
Browns plus eight Steelers minus one a little bit there

696
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,319
for forty nine Ers minus wanting to have a better

697
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,279
Jags minus one fifteen outright Rams plus one seventy four

698
00:32:43,319 --> 00:32:46,680
outright Falcons over. I think that's forty three and a half,

699
00:32:46,759 --> 00:32:49,680
Raiders under forty seven and a half, Saints under forty two,

700
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,920
and Chiefs over forty four and a half. So that's

701
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,640
the sharp stuff. But yeah, those teasers are huge. I

702
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,359
mean I placed one of those teasers too this weekend, so.

703
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 5: It's get a teasers.

704
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if you saw, but some

705
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,000
books are offering like minus one thirty five on two

706
00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:06,920
teams six point teasers now.

707
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 5: Which is outrageous.

708
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 2: We're still at minus one ten or minus one fifteen,

709
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,000
depending up whether you're crossing key.

710
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 5: Numbers or not. So minus one thirty five is this

711
00:33:16,319 --> 00:33:17,000
It's gross.

712
00:33:18,119 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: Oh, those of us that live in states with with

713
00:33:21,079 --> 00:33:23,079
the DraftKings and the fandles have noticed.

714
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,799
Speaker 2: Dave yes, yeah, but you'll have Yeah, but you know

715
00:33:25,839 --> 00:33:28,599
what if a player gets hurt. If a player gets hurt,

716
00:33:28,599 --> 00:33:31,240
you might get your crops refunded though and.

717
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 5: Been adding a tail fight. Man, it is smoga mirrors,

718
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,720
you know, give me a break.

719
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, let me touch on that. You know why

720
00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:43,319
I can't stand that. I can't stand that rule for

721
00:33:44,319 --> 00:33:46,319
a bunch of reasons, but one of them is it

722
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,359
just gives them the ability to just make stuff up

723
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:50,200
as they go along.

724
00:33:51,039 --> 00:33:53,559
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean, can we have some rules please?

725
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 6: Yeah?

726
00:33:54,519 --> 00:33:57,359
Speaker 2: Well, you know, let's not like I've said a zillion

727
00:33:57,359 --> 00:33:58,680
times on your show here.

728
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,599
Speaker 5: I'm more of a marketing guy, so I get it.

729
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,039
Speaker 2: I mean, we've done kind of pr stuff like that

730
00:34:03,079 --> 00:34:06,519
in the task, but we learned it bites you in

731
00:34:06,599 --> 00:34:09,960
the rear end because you know, the next you know,

732
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,239
you might Okay, we we we're gonna know action unders

733
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,239
to be nice people, and everybody tweets it and all

734
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,719
everybody's happy for one day, But then people want that's

735
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,440
not enough. They want this, well, my under the hurt,

736
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:24,960
the points spread and this, you know what I mean.

737
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,559
To one person's happy, but other people aren't happy that

738
00:34:28,559 --> 00:34:30,519
that that prop had something to do with the big

739
00:34:30,599 --> 00:34:33,599
quarterback goes out and next time something gets hurt, well,

740
00:34:33,599 --> 00:34:34,599
where's my refund?

741
00:34:34,599 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 5: You know there on the So it's better just to finally.

742
00:34:38,119 --> 00:34:41,199
Speaker 2: Years back, like after COVID we're real friendly with stuff,

743
00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:43,360
and after COVID's like, you know what, it's a no

744
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,119
win situation.

745
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,639
Speaker 5: Let's just concentrate on what we do best.

746
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 2: If they want to have those pr big pr things

747
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,239
on Monday night football game, cool, But you know what,

748
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,159
our players are getting a lot better juice. I mean,

749
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,320
that's why they can afford to do stuff like that NonStop.

750
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 5: It's because they're they're kill and you on the juice.

751
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,320
So you know whatever.

752
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: I mean. Listen, Dave, you don't how many unders I've

753
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,840
lost in garbage time. I don't get a refund of

754
00:35:12,599 --> 00:35:13,639
cash under.

755
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,639
Speaker 5: The bigger, more and more bigger things.

756
00:35:17,679 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 2: I mean, we're all we're all victims these days, victims

757
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,400
and talies at an all time high.

758
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 5: We're all.

759
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,639
Speaker 2: You know, it's you know, that's the way the ball bounces,

760
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,920
and those things even out, those things even out.

761
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:30,679
Speaker 5: The end of the year.

762
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 2: Man, you know, you might you might have a bad beat,

763
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,760
but for every bad beat you've had a lucky win

764
00:35:37,039 --> 00:35:40,239
that you shouldn't have won. So all that stuff evens

765
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,159
out the end of the year.

766
00:35:41,199 --> 00:35:43,199
Speaker 5: That's that's why I still have fights.

767
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,199
Speaker 2: I bet in the past that I think you know

768
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,320
what I lucked out there, so the next time I'm

769
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:47,880
not gonna wind.

770
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,599
Speaker 5: I still do a little bit, but I don't play

771
00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:50,440
in the books.

772
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: Oh, I've lost UFC fights where the guy tested positive

773
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,440
for steroids a couple of weeks later, it was like

774
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,159
I knew that guy didn't hit that hard.

775
00:35:59,760 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 2: Uh.

776
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: I want to move to college football. Where's the action

777
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,719
this week? Where some of the sharp money sharp stuff?

778
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 2: Tonight tonight two way Rice minus two, Charlotte plus three,

779
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,360
North Texas the minus seven and a half, EYU minus sixty,

780
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,760
CU plus seven and a half, Arkansas minus seven, Nevada

781
00:36:17,079 --> 00:36:21,559
plus eleven and a half, Sam Houston State plus forty one.

782
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 5: Too many totals to mention. Every other damn told has

783
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,159
some sharp action on it.

784
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,159
Speaker 2: Liabilities USC Louisiana Tech are biggest liabilities at the moment,

785
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,760
highest PC count Oklahoma by far. Then you got Miami, Florida, Illinois,

786
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,039
and Utah.

787
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: Last thing before I let you go here. In NFL,

788
00:36:40,599 --> 00:36:42,880
have there been any teams that you have made some

789
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:47,960
pretty aggressive changes to like power rankings just to start

790
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,760
the season, and hey, even though we're two weeks in,

791
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,280
we're going to just them pretty big. Or you guys

792
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,840
still kind of standing where you were at the beginning

793
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,239
of the season, or you just saying, hey, the markets

794
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,559
dictate where these lines.

795
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:03,199
Speaker 5: Go, and the Bengals count, Yeah they count.

796
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 3: Of course, Yeah they dropped.

797
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 8: Of course, you know what with Joe Burrow, they're plummeted.

798
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 5: To the towering.

799
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 8: I mean, casey, you know, the season is young, but

800
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:19,000
but they're dropping. You know, they're dropping for the beginning

801
00:37:19,039 --> 00:37:23,000
of the season. So there their high profile team that

802
00:37:23,119 --> 00:37:24,920
their their rankings are definitely dropping.

803
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,679
Speaker 5: And there's still up there only two games in. They

804
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,280
still have Mahomes under center.

805
00:37:28,039 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 8: Andy Reid at on the sideline. So but but they're

806
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,599
definitely going south as of now. But of course there's

807
00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:36,960
teams for every team.

808
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,199
Speaker 2: Going south, there's teams going up, like like the Coults,

809
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,159
like the Packers.

810
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 8: A lot of a lot of stock up stock down

811
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:43,840
for sure.

812
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 1: Uh, it's been fun watching the cult. So you gotta

813
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,280
be honest, like, I'm still I'm still I'm so nervous,

814
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,039
I'm waiting for the other shoot to drop. Maybe they

815
00:37:52,039 --> 00:37:56,039
are this good. It's it's been fun, it's been refreshing.

816
00:37:56,079 --> 00:37:58,559
They got their first road game this week. But uh

817
00:37:58,639 --> 00:38:00,480
yeah I would. I'll enjoy it while I can't. I

818
00:38:00,519 --> 00:38:02,599
just need to see a little bit more before I'm

819
00:38:02,639 --> 00:38:03,360
going all in on you.

820
00:38:03,519 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 8: There are biggest there are biggest super Bowl winner at

821
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,679
the moment, so we're rooming for him.

822
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: Really?

823
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 2: Wow?

824
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: People people believed in Daniel Jones.

825
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 2: How about our biggest winner? Did I say loser or winner?

826
00:38:16,679 --> 00:38:19,960
Our biggest winner? So if they won the super Bowl? Yeah,

827
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,320
sorry about that. Maybe I could lose her, but biggest,

828
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,440
I mean the biggest winner. So they won the super

829
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,760
Bowl at this moment. Super Bowl is today and they won,

830
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:29,440
that would be our biggest win.

831
00:38:30,639 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 9: Wow.

832
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, there wasn't a lot of preseason action on the Colts,

833
00:38:35,679 --> 00:38:37,320
so but uh you know.

834
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't doubt that. All right. What's Dave

835
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,559
Mason betting this weekend? What do you like?

836
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 3: Uh?

837
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:44,119
Speaker 6: Why?

838
00:38:44,199 --> 00:38:45,039
Speaker 5: I did a teaser.

839
00:38:45,159 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 2: I did one of those you know, square teasers that

840
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:48,519
everybody does.

841
00:38:48,599 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 5: But hell I can't. You can sometimes you look at it.

842
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,079
Speaker 2: You just can't resist man Bucks Bucks and Seahawks. I'm

843
00:38:54,119 --> 00:38:56,400
teasing them down six point six and a half down

844
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,400
the half, laying on the Bucks and Seahawks laying one

845
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,760
and a half again minus one fifteen at bed online

846
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,239
dot ag as opposed to minus one thirty five elsewhere, Uh,

847
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,760
forty nine ers minus two and a half. I took

848
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,320
the lines plus five or now plus four and a half. So, uh,

849
00:39:12,599 --> 00:39:15,760
that's what I'm on for NFL. Maybe gonna add some more,

850
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,079
probably hop on some more of those teasers.

851
00:39:18,119 --> 00:39:19,159
Speaker 6: I don't know, man, I.

852
00:39:19,159 --> 00:39:21,199
Speaker 2: Used to try to stay away from those, but some of.

853
00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 5: These just looks too damn good.

854
00:39:23,559 --> 00:39:25,559
Speaker 1: I know they've been good through the first two weeks.

855
00:39:25,559 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 2: I guess we're getting killed. We need to win some

856
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,239
NFL money. We got killed the first two Sundays of

857
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:31,719
the season.

858
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: Somehow, I I think you're gonna be okay.

859
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is this is.

860
00:39:37,679 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: Where it turns around for all? Right, Where can we

861
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,199
find you and tell us about bet online?

862
00:39:43,599 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 2: Uh? Dave may at Dave Mason bol on Twitter coming

863
00:39:47,039 --> 00:39:49,320
over to bed online dot ag I mentioned our great

864
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,559
teaser odds. I mean, there's so much action on these

865
00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:54,840
teasers that really really have to pay attention to what

866
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,679
your book is charging you on the juice on those teasers.

867
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,360
We we also open our lines up earlier than just

868
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,719
about every other book, using arms race between us in

869
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,119
a very respective book in Vegas to see who opens

870
00:40:07,199 --> 00:40:10,599
the odds up first for next week and all sorts

871
00:40:10,639 --> 00:40:14,840
of different markets. We just added to this morning, give

872
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,320
me Kimmel's replacement.

873
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 5: We have Greg.

874
00:40:17,639 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 2: Gutfield the plus four hun her favorite three O THEO

875
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,360
Vaughn plus five hundred right behind him.

876
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 5: They're the two favorites.

877
00:40:24,639 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 2: Then down the opposite and Inspectrum the long shots or

878
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,360
Scott Bayo at two fifty to one and Stephen Colbert at.

879
00:40:31,159 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 5: Three hundred to one. So court Stephen.

880
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 2: Colbert can't even Scott Bayo has a better chance to

881
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,920
replaced in Jimmy Kimmill over Stephen Colbert.

882
00:40:38,559 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: Do you have a nun?

883
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 4: No?

884
00:40:41,559 --> 00:40:42,199
Speaker 5: Do we need one?

885
00:40:44,039 --> 00:40:46,159
Speaker 1: Would? I would think that'd be the favorite. I think

886
00:40:46,159 --> 00:40:49,159
this is the That's the thing with these late night shows.

887
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,079
There aren't replacements waiting. This is a tough model these days.

888
00:40:53,079 --> 00:40:55,280
People aren't watching. Who do you know is staying up

889
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:59,280
at eleven o'clock eleven thirty to watch these shows? I

890
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,400
think these are I think these are I think the

891
00:41:01,559 --> 00:41:03,840
networks are getting thrown a lifeboat to get out of

892
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,840
these monster contracts. It's so expensive to me. And that's

893
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,599
the thing. I like, remember way back when it was

894
00:41:09,639 --> 00:41:13,599
exciting who's going to be next, Who's taken over? There's

895
00:41:13,639 --> 00:41:16,039
no there's no excitement to take over these shows. I

896
00:41:16,039 --> 00:41:17,599
think they're disappearing like dust.

897
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,559
Speaker 2: Yeah there's yeah, I mean, yeah, there's just who else

898
00:41:21,559 --> 00:41:24,400
stays up that late to listen to and they're not

899
00:41:24,519 --> 00:41:27,079
just not entertaining him anymore. I was not like old

900
00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:30,119
but you know that Johnny Carson's and Letterman of yesteryear,

901
00:41:30,199 --> 00:41:33,400
they they they they were good, these guys. You know,

902
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,719
it's just and who's staying to way too much competition,

903
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,960
too much on late at night and whatever.

904
00:41:38,119 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: Watch it on YouTube the very next day.

905
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, watched the highlights right there.

906
00:41:44,559 --> 00:41:49,119
Speaker 1: You yeah, yeah, all right, Dave Mason, you can meet

907
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,599
Jimmy's next replacement. I respect it, Dave, I respect it,

908
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,679
appreciate you. The king of the props, Dave Mason bet

909
00:41:56,679 --> 00:41:59,039
online dot ag and he's not joking about the juice

910
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,239
when they were at least those NFL teasers at the

911
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,639
beginning of the season for some of these some of

912
00:42:06,639 --> 00:42:09,719
these legal books. Good Lord, can't believe it. Can't believe it.

913
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,880
So all right, let's do all around the World. And

914
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,360
then we're gonna bring in Dan because we got to

915
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,000
talk a little bit about Survivor on a Thursday, because

916
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,800
the bills are a big time option here. So let's

917
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,800
do a couple. Let's do three free plays here. Oh

918
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,280
and I'm gonna break down some props for Thursday night football.

919
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,480
So let's do free plays. We'll start with the Padres

920
00:42:28,519 --> 00:42:30,760
and the Mets. Padres over four and a half on

921
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,239
the team total this morning, it was a plus money.

922
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,039
There's no way that stays. Our tong is pitching for

923
00:42:35,079 --> 00:42:39,320
the Mets. He's been awful. Eleven point two innings, thirteen hits,

924
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,159
and eleven earned runs. In those eleven point two innings,

925
00:42:42,159 --> 00:42:44,880
Padres have gone over this total three out of last four.

926
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,079
This theory worked for us yesterday. Yeah, it took extra innings,

927
00:42:48,079 --> 00:42:49,800
but we got there. So let's take a look at

928
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,840
that one. We're going right back to Melissa Smith over

929
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,960
eight and a half points. She went under the last game.

930
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:55,880
I said, come back and play it again. I'm gonna

931
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,960
stick to my guns. She's gone over in five out

932
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,719
of the last seven and eleven out of the last

933
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,760
four teen against the Storm. She has never had back

934
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,800
to back games under this total against the Storm. Melissa

935
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,960
Smith over the points, Ralph Michael Special Mariners at Royals

936
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,000
your fee, Yes, have a run on the first inning

937
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,719
Royals ten and oh run your fee Mariners four and

938
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,719
oh run on the er fee six and one away

939
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,360
games your feet. We got a lot of trends saying that, yes,

940
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,559
there's gonna be a run or a run here in

941
00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:26,639
the first inning. So let's do some Thursday night football props.

942
00:43:26,679 --> 00:43:29,519
These are some leans. I'm gonna take a look at

943
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,079
Josh Allen and I'm gonna take an under on Josh Allen.

944
00:43:34,079 --> 00:43:36,360
I'm gonna take his under two seventy one and a

945
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,400
half passing. Last week in a big win, he only

946
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,599
threw for one hundred and forty eight yards and they

947
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,360
rush for two hundred and twenty four yards. The Dolphins

948
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:49,760
have faced more rush attempts this season than any other team.

949
00:43:50,079 --> 00:43:53,719
Short week defense that's faced a ton of rush attempts.

950
00:43:54,079 --> 00:43:56,559
I'm gonna take him to go under his passing yards.

951
00:43:56,599 --> 00:43:59,360
I just don't see a huge passing game. Not a

952
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,360
lot of passestempts. I'm gonna take him under half an interception.

953
00:44:03,559 --> 00:44:07,800
He hasn't thrown an interception this season. Miami no interceptions

954
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,760
this season, so we get an uninterested pass defense taking

955
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,519
the under on that one. To do a same game

956
00:44:13,559 --> 00:44:17,639
parlay plus one forty four James Cook anytime touchdown score

957
00:44:18,039 --> 00:44:20,599
and I'm gonna put that with the Bills over thirty

958
00:44:20,639 --> 00:44:22,960
and a half on their team total. Cook has three

959
00:44:23,039 --> 00:44:25,719
tds this season, Miami has given up thirty three points

960
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,039
in both of their games, and Buffalo has scored forty

961
00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:30,360
one and thirty in the last two games. So what

962
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,119
I wanted to do was try and get the James

963
00:44:32,159 --> 00:44:36,639
Cook anytime touchdown up to a better number because odds

964
00:44:36,639 --> 00:44:38,239
are they're going to be in close and James Cook

965
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,599
is gonna score. So that was at minus one seventy.

966
00:44:40,639 --> 00:44:42,400
But we've put the Bills team total over and we

967
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,079
get that thing up to plus one forty four. I

968
00:44:45,199 --> 00:44:49,840
mentioned yesterday Ray Davis over twenty four and a half.

969
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,079
I do have to mention that again, Dolphins have given

970
00:44:52,119 --> 00:44:54,039
up one hundred and fifty six hundred and twenty two

971
00:44:54,119 --> 00:44:57,519
yards rushing in the first two games. Defense short notice

972
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,880
or a short week, and like I said, they faced

973
00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:02,480
or rush attempts. Short week, when you faced as many

974
00:45:02,559 --> 00:45:04,559
rush attempts as them, I just don't think they're gonna

975
00:45:04,559 --> 00:45:07,119
have the juice in the second half. Ray Davis only

976
00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:09,519
had one carry Week one. Nine carries for twenty four

977
00:45:09,599 --> 00:45:12,480
yards last week. Expect Ray Davis to have a really

978
00:45:12,519 --> 00:45:15,119
nice total. I might look at playing his total live

979
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,079
at halftime. If Buffalo's up a couple scores, see what

980
00:45:18,079 --> 00:45:19,960
the number is on Ray Davis, you might be able

981
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,880
to ladder him up to twenty five thirty forty yards.

982
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,639
So those are your Thursday Night prop plays for tonight.

983
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,239
All right, let's bring it on, Dan, because we got

984
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:34,880
to talk a little bit about we gotta talk survivor.

985
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,880
Because this is the first Thursday game. I think we've

986
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:41,480
had a pretty obvious play. Now, Okay, technically it's a

987
00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:43,519
divisional game on Thursday.

988
00:45:43,679 --> 00:45:45,559
Speaker 10: Yeah, it always worries you a little bit.

989
00:45:45,639 --> 00:45:48,119
Speaker 9: But there is one team in this division that seems

990
00:45:48,199 --> 00:45:52,199
dead dead and they're playing tonight. So yeah, divisional games

991
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:56,360
are worrisome, Andy, but I don't know if the worry

992
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,880
is quite there. The thing is is haro. I'll pull

993
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,559
up the odds logic live screen so we can we

994
00:46:04,599 --> 00:46:05,199
can get a peek.

995
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: Does it just say Miami just like they just says

996
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:10,079
Miami stinks?

997
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 10: Yeah, it doesn't even say it just says Miami is awful?

998
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 3: No.

999
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 10: Eleven and a half.

1000
00:46:16,079 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 2: This thing.

1001
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:17,559
Speaker 10: Actually we have seen.

1002
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 9: A little bit of buyback on Miami. Surprisingly, I don't

1003
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:21,280
get it.

1004
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,199
Speaker 10: But also this is a monster number.

1005
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 9: You're just looking this week like what other ones jump

1006
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:28,159
off the board?

1007
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 10: You for Survivor.

1008
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 9: The number one Survivor play this week is gonna be

1009
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,719
this one right here. It's gonna be New Orleans against Seattle.

1010
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,639
That's that's gonna be the one where everyone's taking Seattle

1011
00:46:38,119 --> 00:46:41,679
a thousand because because when else do you take Seattle.

1012
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,559
It's getting the fade New Orleans. And here's the worry

1013
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,039
for me, is uh yeah, Spencer Rattler on the road,

1014
00:46:48,079 --> 00:46:51,000
is he probably gonna beat the Seahawks. No, but one

1015
00:46:51,039 --> 00:46:55,000
of these weeks the chaos, holy shit, how did they

1016
00:46:55,159 --> 00:46:57,840
beat the game could come and would it be the

1017
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,840
craziest thing in the world for the holy shit, Oh

1018
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:01,000
my god, I can't believe they lost.

1019
00:47:01,079 --> 00:47:03,519
Speaker 10: Game to be a New Orleans Saints game. It's gonna

1020
00:47:03,519 --> 00:47:04,400
be a New Orleans Saints game.

1021
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 9: It's gonna be a Panthers game, or you know, it's

1022
00:47:08,559 --> 00:47:11,320
gonna be a Jaguars game, you know. Okay, And I

1023
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,960
was even mulling around, Andy, like do we just go

1024
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:18,000
and put Buffalo in now and move on with the week,

1025
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,880
or well scroll down further here, Andy, I kind of

1026
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,360
want to use Buffalo next week.

1027
00:47:23,519 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 10: They play New Orleans next week, you know what.

1028
00:47:26,159 --> 00:47:28,519
Speaker 1: That's the things. So we're looking to next week and

1029
00:47:28,639 --> 00:47:31,960
next week it's hard. You got Seahawks, Cardinals. That's tough.

1030
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,800
Viking Steelers that's gonna be tough, unless Wentz looking in Dublin.

1031
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:36,760
That's overseas.

1032
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 9: That's overseas Commanders overseas game.

1033
00:47:40,119 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Commander's Falcons. That one's tough. Now Brown's at Lions. Uh,

1034
00:47:45,079 --> 00:47:49,280
that could be the monumental number one Panthers Patriots, that

1035
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,599
could be tough, Chargers, Giants. Maybe the Chargers but they're

1036
00:47:52,599 --> 00:47:57,519
on the road. Eagles, Bucks, I think that one is tough. Titans, Texans, Colts, Rams, Jags,

1037
00:47:57,519 --> 00:48:01,280
forty nine, Ravens, Chiefs, Bears Race. These are all tough games.

1038
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,280
Next week. I think I want to save my Buffalo

1039
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,360
for next week. I think Buffalo is the obvious pick.

1040
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,320
So let's go through the nominees for this week. I

1041
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:14,159
have Colts at Titans road game, divisional game, but man,

1042
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:15,400
I don't know.

1043
00:48:15,519 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 9: It's also my first road game for this Colt. I

1044
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,840
mean again, you're you're not taking them on the spread,

1045
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,199
But to be honest, if you you know over a

1046
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,400
field goal for Tennessee with the team that has now

1047
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,480
been anointed, I'm sorry, blocked, but you know I'm looking

1048
00:48:31,519 --> 00:48:33,639
to fade the Colts. I'll probably fade the Colts every

1049
00:48:33,679 --> 00:48:35,360
week until I get to say I told you so.

1050
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:40,079
So you know, if they had played a road game already, Andy,

1051
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,320
probably you know what I mean. But the fact that

1052
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:46,119
this is their first road game after being anointed, as

1053
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,880
you know, Daniel Jones has found his landing spot, that

1054
00:48:50,039 --> 00:48:50,559
worries me.

1055
00:48:50,519 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: A little bit.

1056
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:56,199
Speaker 1: I move on to Jets at Buccaneers. Buccaneers facing Tyrod Taylor,

1057
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,800
and then you get this Buccaneers offensive line that they're

1058
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:03,880
down to They're down three. It's tough, It's it's really tough.

1059
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,960
You could get sneaky. Yeah, I go ahead.

1060
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,599
Speaker 10: I was gonna say, maybe you're thinking the same thing,

1061
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,519
like do I.

1062
00:49:11,559 --> 00:49:14,599
Speaker 9: Just risk my entire entry and go Jags, Like, I

1063
00:49:14,639 --> 00:49:18,000
think Houston is really bad. I think their defense has

1064
00:49:18,039 --> 00:49:20,639
been getting by and this whole entire team has been

1065
00:49:20,639 --> 00:49:21,480
getting by on CJ.

1066
00:49:21,559 --> 00:49:25,159
Speaker 10: Stroud's rookie year for two seasons now. Man, so did you.

1067
00:49:25,119 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 1: Watch Jacksonville against Jake Browning?

1068
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 10: I mean that one's gross. It's gross.

1069
00:49:37,159 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: The Raiders could be pretty terrible, but I think Mariota

1070
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,320
is a little bit underrated. So there's that one. I

1071
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,079
gotta be honest, I'm staring at this Falcons Panthers game.

1072
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,639
That Panthers team is horrific. Robinson and Algier could run

1073
00:49:50,679 --> 00:49:53,400
for two hundred and fifty yards. There's there's a chance

1074
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:54,360
that they have.

1075
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 10: Really bad against the run.

1076
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,519
Speaker 1: Thirty eight to thirty nine minutes of possession against that

1077
00:49:59,559 --> 00:50:02,679
Panthers team. Panthers are zero to two, and even though

1078
00:50:02,679 --> 00:50:04,800
that was a one score game last week, they needed

1079
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,840
an on sides kick and a last second score. And

1080
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,519
here's my thing day, I've used the Cardinals and the Cowboys,

1081
00:50:10,559 --> 00:50:12,840
so I've snuck by. Boy, if I could use the

1082
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,800
Falcons and I could go into Week four. No, and

1083
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,519
I've only used the Cardinals, the Cowboys, and the Falcons.

1084
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,960
I'm feeling pretty damn good. I don't trust the Sea.

1085
00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 9: I think I think you've won me over. I think

1086
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,320
I'm gonna hold onto Buffalo. I don't think I'm gonna

1087
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:26,079
burn it tonight.

1088
00:50:26,559 --> 00:50:28,039
Speaker 1: I think you need him next week.

1089
00:50:28,519 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 10: I think you need both finalize.

1090
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 9: We'll finalize our picks tomorrow when we do the official

1091
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,079
I will survive picks.

1092
00:50:34,119 --> 00:50:39,519
Speaker 10: But I'm heavily lean in this Atlanta game. Or I

1093
00:50:39,679 --> 00:50:41,400
just risk it all and go Jacksonville.

1094
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 9: I think Jacksonville wins out right this week one and

1095
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,719
a half point favorite, basically a pick them game right there.

1096
00:50:48,679 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 10: I'm between those two, Andy.

1097
00:50:50,119 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 9: I mean that that would be the Oh my god,

1098
00:50:52,519 --> 00:50:54,960
I have every team that I could possibly want left

1099
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,360
if I get Jacksonville home.

1100
00:50:56,599 --> 00:51:02,039
Speaker 1: So I get could you throw Chiefs at the Giants?

1101
00:51:02,639 --> 00:51:04,239
Are the Chiefs gonna go three?

1102
00:51:04,679 --> 00:51:07,119
Speaker 10: Because I think this is the Chiefs get right, spot.

1103
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 9: But Giants, it's a really if you if you back

1104
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,480
the Giants, even if you take Giants against the spread,

1105
00:51:13,559 --> 00:51:16,119
like you're really buying the Giants as high as you

1106
00:51:16,199 --> 00:51:18,800
possibly could buy him. Coming off a near overtime win

1107
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,599
against the Cowboys.

1108
00:51:20,639 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: Against a horrific defense, Chiefs.

1109
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,639
Speaker 10: Yeah, exactly, and two tough games. Chie this is Chiefs.

1110
00:51:26,639 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 9: Do they win this game or do they go under

1111
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,760
their season win total and maybe not make the playoffs

1112
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:32,719
if they lose this game?

1113
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,559
Speaker 1: And and honestly, I listened to a podcast where making

1114
00:51:36,599 --> 00:51:39,440
the case that Travis Kelcey has literally cost them two

1115
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:44,119
games and a wide receiver he has single handedly like

1116
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,480
cost them, and it's like he's not gonna be this

1117
00:51:46,599 --> 00:51:49,199
bad all season. So I don't know, we'll make our

1118
00:51:49,199 --> 00:51:52,360
final we'll make our final decision. I think we're both

1119
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,280
gonna hang on to the bills.

1120
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna use the bills tonight.

1121
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,280
I'm keeping that bullet in the chamber. Maybe we'll kick ourselves.

1122
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,400
But next week's like a slam dunk easy bills.

1123
00:52:02,599 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, because here here's the thing, Like, let's say we

1124
00:52:05,079 --> 00:52:07,920
use the bills next week, but then we lose next

1125
00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:09,480
Let's say we use the bills this week, but we

1126
00:52:09,519 --> 00:52:12,119
lose next week because we already used them. It doesn't

1127
00:52:12,119 --> 00:52:15,679
matter we lost, Yeah, it doesn't matter. So all right,

1128
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:20,920
all right, Chad says Andy determined apparently to be wrong

1129
00:52:21,039 --> 00:52:24,800
about Seattle for all season. I don't know what my

1130
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:29,320
strong stance was. It's Seattle. But Chad, that is funny.

1131
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:34,159
That is funny. I listen, I just when everybody, how

1132
00:52:34,679 --> 00:52:37,360
you think fifty percent of the tickets are going to

1133
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,199
be on Seattle this week? Could we reach five percent?

1134
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 9: I mean first survivor that's going to be the pick

1135
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:48,320
of the week. That's yeah, spread you know, but but

1136
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:49,880
that's going to be the survivor pick.

1137
00:52:50,679 --> 00:52:53,039
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right, well, thank you so much

1138
00:52:53,039 --> 00:52:55,000
for joining us. Dan and I will get you all

1139
00:52:55,039 --> 00:52:58,679
the survivor pick Tomorrow, guys, Tomorrow's Football Friday. Johnny's coming

1140
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,760
in strong with UH with National Football League and College

1141
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,599
Football Steam right before Teddy Covers is gonna be here,

1142
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,800
Marco is gonna be here, Kelly and Vegas is going

1143
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,840
to be here talking the Westgate Super Contest. Dan and

1144
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,199
I will make our official Survivor picks. We're gonna get

1145
00:53:12,199 --> 00:53:14,559
you locked and loaded. So tomorrow is a huge, huge

1146
00:53:14,559 --> 00:53:17,599
show every Friday. It is the best football show to

1147
00:53:17,639 --> 00:53:19,320
get you ready for the weekend. So make sure you're

1148
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,760
joining us. It's a great show today, guys, thank you

1149
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,480
so much. Live Chat you guys killed it as always.

1150
00:53:24,639 --> 00:53:26,679
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1151
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,719
Helps the algorithm out. We had a little polarizing talk

1152
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:34,199
earlier about the Bengals and the Vikings, posting the comments

1153
00:53:34,199 --> 00:53:36,280
section if you're rolling with the Bengals and the Vikings.

1154
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:41,119
Two teams starting backup quarterbacks already in Week two, so

1155
00:53:41,159 --> 00:53:43,000
we'll talk about that game a little bit tomorrow and

1156
00:53:43,039 --> 00:53:45,400
see where the line ends up. Thank you to everybody,

1157
00:53:45,559 --> 00:53:47,559
have a great day, good luck on your bets. Tonight

1158
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NFL prop pack is up. The first official play for

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on your plays. We'll see you tomorrow. Take care,