Speaker 1: You see something's going to happen. What what's going to happen?
Speaker 2: I'll take.
Speaker 1: What help. Welcome to the Occult Rejects.
Speaker 3: This episode, you got myself, we got the Headless Giant,
Speaker 3: and we got a new guest on the show. Before
Speaker 3: we get to David from down the rebin Hole, we
Speaker 3: gotta have Headless Giant introduce himself.
Speaker 1: What is going on, sir? How are you? And please
Speaker 1: let everybody know what's up with the Headless Giant.
Speaker 4: How you doing? You can find me on x and
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Speaker 4: every Thursday where I take your emails and your occult
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Speaker 4: all also have the Trialogues on Sunday morning with Ethan
Speaker 4: Indigo and Ricardo Calvadio and we just sort of bring
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Speaker 1: Is Aeros going to be chefing it up to or
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Speaker 4: I don't know, She's got to buy her stuff, you know,
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I'm just wondering, like, do we have
Speaker 3: a chance of watching both of you with just one
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Speaker 3: will hopefully by the second week, the second son, the
Speaker 3: second Monday of November, hopefully we should start going through
Speaker 3: Alisa Crowley's seven seven seven, So keep an eye out
Speaker 3: of that. That should be a real interesting one and
Speaker 3: probably a lot.
Speaker 1: Of stuff to talk about.
Speaker 3: So uh yeah, I'm gonna shut up and I'm gonna
Speaker 3: introduce David. David is a first time on the Occult Rejects,
Speaker 3: David from Down the rabbit Hole.
Speaker 1: Why don't you let everybody know.
Speaker 3: What your deal is and like everything that you cover
Speaker 3: and what you're into and where they can find all
Speaker 3: your stuff as well.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I just wanted to say, I'm already following the
Speaker 2: Headless Giant. I just checked right now and I'm following you, sir.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that is awesome, awesome. Yeah, I'm definitely gonna
Speaker 2: check out all your stuff. So hello, Yeah, I'm David
Speaker 2: from down the rabbit Hole. I have a social media page.
Speaker 2: It's all about the paranormal. It's all about haunted houses, ghosts, aliens, UFOs, bigfoot,
Speaker 2: anything that's unexplained, anything that's interesting. I love it and
Speaker 2: I share it. So I'm on Instagram. That's where my
Speaker 2: biggest following is. I just today, not an hour ago, sirs,
Speaker 2: past three hundred and fifty thousand followers. I am just
Speaker 2: shared that out with you know, the close friends on Instagram.
Speaker 2: So I'm just really happy about that. And then you know,
Speaker 2: just yesterday or day po yesterday, I think it was
Speaker 2: a day pre yesterday. I have about one hundred and
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is twenty something thousand followers
Speaker 2: on Facebook, about thirty one thousand followers on threads, and
Speaker 2: then blah blah blah blah. But so it's over half
Speaker 2: a million followers right now. I passed that just the
Speaker 2: other day. I'm very excited about that. You know, the
Speaker 2: page is doing well. I'm very proud and just goes
Speaker 2: a show. When you do it every single day, it builds. Man,
Speaker 2: do not if you're look. A lot of people ask
Speaker 2: me how do you do it? How do you blah
Speaker 2: blah blah. Every morning I get up, I look for videos,
Speaker 2: I find stuff, I research, I put it together. I
Speaker 2: place it every day. I don't miss Saturday. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: take days off on Sunday. I don't rest on Sunday. Man,
Speaker 2: come on, I love the paranormal. It's it excites me.
Speaker 2: I'm interpassionate. It's a passion man. So I just do
Speaker 2: that stuff every single day and holidays even. I had
Speaker 2: a heart attack back in December. Let me just say this.
Speaker 2: I had a heart attack back in December. I went
Speaker 2: three days and I didn't know I had a heart attack.
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, everything's fine. You know, I started
Speaker 2: having trouble breathing right. So I go to a check
Speaker 2: go to like one of those clinics, and they're like, dude,
Speaker 2: go to the hospital. Now. I go to the hospital, Sir,
Speaker 2: you've had a heart attack for the past seventy two hours.
Speaker 2: They rushed me in, put me under all this stuff.
Speaker 2: The very next morning, I was looking for videos man
Speaker 2: in the hospital in intensive care. I was like, hey,
Speaker 2: I'm bored, let me see what I can find out
Speaker 2: there and post right. So I didn't even take a
Speaker 2: day off and then man, so yeah, yeah, that's how.
Speaker 1: You do it. You know, it's crazy how you do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's funny.
Speaker 3: When I had back surgery, I was podcasting at a
Speaker 3: point I had a bar put in my back, and
Speaker 3: before then, I remember we were covering Skinwalker Range and
Speaker 3: it was a bunch of episodes and we knew that
Speaker 3: I was going to be getting like surgery and I
Speaker 3: was probably gonna be out for a few weeks, so we.
Speaker 1: Had them all made.
Speaker 3: But I literally inside the hospital after like the second
Speaker 3: day of like after the surgery, I literally had my
Speaker 3: laptop and I was editing the show and making the intros,
Speaker 3: and I was lit off my ass off of painkills.
Speaker 3: I was fine, I was I just fucking great. I
Speaker 3: was fucking wrecked. And then I go back and listen
Speaker 3: to my intros and I was like, you can obviously
Speaker 3: tell I was high.
Speaker 4: That's the key to editing, though, you gotta be on
Speaker 4: some heavy pain killers.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, definitely helped with this gear down Bruno show.
Speaker 1: I'm doing.
Speaker 2: Oh God, because I'm doing that, you know I'm a well,
Speaker 2: I know you can't tell now, but I'm an introvert, man,
Speaker 2: I'm a.
Speaker 5: I'm very reserved.
Speaker 2: And so I met this person named Amanda Goodwin. She
Speaker 2: did a She's just a podcast call one Nothing, and
Speaker 2: she was working with some other podcasters that were doing uh,
Speaker 2: you mentioned Skinwalker Ranch. Well, she did Stardust Ranch. I
Speaker 2: heard of Stardust. Yes, dude, I love that story. I
Speaker 2: did not know that story, and I didn't like that
Speaker 2: she knew it and I didn't.
Speaker 5: So it was like we we struck up the conversation.
Speaker 2: She says, you know, I don't do paranormal I do
Speaker 2: animal attacks because she's kind of an animal expert. I
Speaker 2: do true crime and I do bizarre deaths. And she
Speaker 2: asked me to join and I was like, already going
Speaker 2: to say no because I don't talk in front of people. Man,
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 5: That's not my gig. You know. The whole for first
Speaker 5: year down the rabbit hole was faceless, you know.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: But then I thought I was siventy five percent going
Speaker 2: to say no. But something in me said do this, man,
Speaker 2: do it, and so I said, yeah, I'll do it.
Speaker 5: And it was a learning curve. You know, you don't.
Speaker 2: I'm a listener, man, So when she's telling the story,
Speaker 2: I was just listening, you know. I didn't jump in
Speaker 2: or say anything. Well, I've learned that's not how you
Speaker 2: do co hosting. So I learned the hard way, but
Speaker 2: I learned and I picked it up pretty good and
Speaker 2: we had a great show. It's been going on forty
Speaker 2: nine episodes or so. It's every other weekend, but she's
Speaker 2: been on a hiatus. So but we hit the top
Speaker 2: two point five percent globally on what is it list
Speaker 2: notes or whatever it is?
Speaker 1: So nice. Yes, that's one. Yeah, that's nothing new to U.
Speaker 1: Sneeze that. I mean, as you do.
Speaker 3: There's people in the conspiracy with the community swinging to
Speaker 3: the deck around think of the tough shit, and they
Speaker 3: actually have a worse number than you. So that's pretty impressive. Wow, okay,
Speaker 3: good for you. I point one point zero.
Speaker 5: Hey man, that's great. Thank you, dude, thank you. That
Speaker 5: is great. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So you know the fact that we got there was
Speaker 2: very shocking and uh, my friend Kevin who is also
Speaker 2: the producer, you.
Speaker 3: Know what though, real quick, I bet you if people
Speaker 3: were to go check on listen notes, most of your
Speaker 3: listens are probably from America, not Great Britain. Correct, because
Speaker 3: you're probably not using bots like other shows as well.
Speaker 5: But we're listening to all over the world.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: When I do so, you had like fifty nine Great Britain,
Speaker 3: I was like, how does that happen when you're in
Speaker 3: the United States.
Speaker 1: Oh, because you're using bots. That's why.
Speaker 5: Dude.
Speaker 2: I was shocked that, you know, people are listening to
Speaker 2: us in China, Like what the hell was Oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, no, I got like one to two percent,
Speaker 3: like all over the country, I mean all over the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty wild. Yeah, it's that weird. I don't know.
Speaker 5: I freaked out.
Speaker 2: Actually it goes out all over the world. It's nuts
Speaker 2: to me. Japan, I was like Australia, I.
Speaker 1: Know, big for me, Australia and Canada is big for me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Canada is a big.
Speaker 1: Australia too, though it's got a couple of percent. I'm
Speaker 1: like Jesus Christ, all.
Speaker 2: Right, it's crazy, man, I'm I was a little freaked
Speaker 2: out by that, but then I to do another show.
Speaker 2: It was kind of It's a live show every Sunday,
Speaker 2: every other Sunday called Weird Job in the Morning, and
Speaker 2: I do it with Kevin Sapield Junior.
Speaker 5: He's the producer of my podcast.
Speaker 2: That one's called David Don't Know, and that's fairly new.
Speaker 2: I have about twelve episodes out tomorrow she'll be thirteen.
Speaker 2: And that one, David Don't Know is all about the paranormal,
Speaker 2: so I get to interview people that have experiences. One
Speaker 2: of my episodes, I interviewed a guy who's a certified
Speaker 2: hypnotherapist to specializes in past lives.
Speaker 3: I think I had I think I saw that up
Speaker 3: on one of your things and I was like, really,
Speaker 3: I have to start stealing some guests from this guy. Dude,
Speaker 3: I've been fortunate I have so Yeah, Gina black On
Speaker 3: too recently. I know that's like a little bit completely
Speaker 3: off topic, but you know, yeah, what's that? Yeah, Gina
Speaker 3: Black on recently too right. Yes, Gina Black, she's a
Speaker 3: friend of the show. When I started the whole thing,
Speaker 3: she was one of my first followers.
Speaker 5: Man, she's cool as hell.
Speaker 1: She was doing She's cool as hell, that lady. I
Speaker 1: like her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's awesome. She's awesome. I have a guy, uh
Speaker 2: named Jonathan Bettis. He is Latinos against Spooky Ship. I
Speaker 2: don't know we've ever seen that guy. Shocked that that
Speaker 2: guy has millions of followers. I asked him and he
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, sure. We did a show. It was
Speaker 2: Chef's Kiss bro. It was He's amazing. He's hilarious and
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is about him, but we
Speaker 2: fed off each other. I think that's one of my
Speaker 2: best shows. I love that show. Johnson's funny, dude, He's funny.
Speaker 2: So yeah, man, we've had we had some some some doozies.
Speaker 2: I had some doozies. Grateful to Amanda Goodwin for one
Speaker 2: nothing for me learning how to do this. You can't
Speaker 2: just jump on and start a podcast.
Speaker 3: You know, especially if you get Yeah, it's just there's
Speaker 3: a lot to Actually.
Speaker 5: Hi, my name's David. I mean you you gotta you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying a lot.
Speaker 1: It's a fuckery behind being a podcast though. Just keep
Speaker 1: it real. You have to mind fuck your own self,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. If you're well, I mean
Speaker 1: with the headless.
Speaker 2: Gian over here, how many shows are you doing right now?
Speaker 4: My friend, Well, it's looking like four, So four days
Speaker 4: out of the week, it's going to be a show, show, show.
Speaker 5: But yeah, that's awesome. I have four shows too, you Besides.
Speaker 4: What, I have zero preparation, So that helps.
Speaker 2: Dude, because it's like I don't want to be caught
Speaker 2: in the wind. But I mean some people have that ability.
Speaker 2: They can just you know, boom boom, boom boom, and
Speaker 2: I'm lucky enough that I can have that, but I
Speaker 2: have to have something prepared just in case. You can.
Speaker 1: Just keep it real.
Speaker 3: And I'm not knocking the guy because it's just the truth.
Speaker 3: Like I'm the host of the show. I should be
Speaker 3: the one who at least knows who the fuck the
Speaker 3: guest is. He's just got to be here to chime
Speaker 3: in or ask questions, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 3: I mean he does kind of have the choice of
Speaker 3: doing that. I'm not knocking him, not saying that that's wrong.
Speaker 3: Just times when I come completely blind with the guests
Speaker 3: because I'm so so sucked up in my solo ship.
Speaker 3: I just book somebody and that was it, you know.
Speaker 3: But uh, yeah, no, I know what you're saying.
Speaker 5: It does.
Speaker 3: It does help to actually like some of the some
Speaker 3: of the bigger guests I have spent time recently.
Speaker 5: It does help, it know, it helps.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've done some Yeah, I've had some people on
Speaker 2: that I thoroughly.
Speaker 5: I have the VET.
Speaker 2: Man. There's a guy I don't know if I should
Speaker 2: say so, there's a guy out there. He wants to
Speaker 2: be on the show. He has he had some you know,
Speaker 2: some abduction experiences and so you know, he's told me
Speaker 2: extensively what that entailed, what he what he you know,
Speaker 2: the things that he went through. I had like a
Speaker 2: check in with him because I wanted to be sure, man,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I don't want to be
Speaker 2: just bring any old guy on there. And we had
Speaker 2: some conversations and the dude looks sounds legitimate. Now there's
Speaker 2: some some questions I asked him, and just to meet,
Speaker 2: meet and greet kind of thing where he was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I should have maybe I should have asked that question.
Speaker 2: I'll ask my brother some you know, I'm like, oh shit,
Speaker 2: maybe this is not good idea.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You gotta be selected, bro, if you want to have
Speaker 2: a good show, you gotta be selective. So gotta look
Speaker 2: at these guys, Gotta you know, fine tooth, calmb and
Speaker 2: maybe get around the edges there.
Speaker 5: Maybe there's something I.
Speaker 3: Even had to do that with myself, you know, kind
Speaker 3: of calm down certain areas of myself to like kind
Speaker 3: of be taken.
Speaker 1: A little bit more serious. So yeah, I totally get that.
Speaker 3: With your show, Like I know you said you go
Speaker 3: into videos like what would be something that's like one
Speaker 3: of your more favorite things that you do kind of
Speaker 3: like like focusing on a showing on your show when
Speaker 3: you're looking for stuff as uh, I guess stuff to cover.
Speaker 2: Well, one of the things I do in the beginning
Speaker 2: of the show before I bring my guest on, I
Speaker 2: have uh so I'm a right share driver.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, that's what I do.
Speaker 2: And I I love to ask my writers if they've
Speaker 2: ever had a paranorle.
Speaker 3: Oh that is great though, that's like free fucking yes,
Speaker 3: it's free. Contact right there and like it's it's like
Speaker 3: it's like kind of line where it's not like, you know,
Speaker 3: it's like not a usual question, but it's not too
Speaker 3: weird to be yes either.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: No, I have perfected this, man, because I have a
Speaker 2: pretty good feel on how to read people.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You have to read people, dude, And I can pick
Speaker 2: up on energies. I have a friend who's a psychic medium.
Speaker 2: She's a white witch. She she's she's the real deal, dude.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you then. I'm a I'm a skeptic when
Speaker 2: it comes to these things. But ever since I started
Speaker 2: doing down the rabbit Hole, I've met a ton of
Speaker 2: psychic mediums and a ton of witches. I didn't believe
Speaker 2: whiches were real. I thought it was just a Halloween thing. Man,
Speaker 2: they're real, man. Okay, let me just say which is
Speaker 2: a real dude, and they do things and it works,
Speaker 2: bro Okay. So she's she's awesome. So she's a real
Speaker 2: good person, and she's taught me how to pick up
Speaker 2: on energies. You know, She's showed me how to open
Speaker 2: your your your mind enough that you can feel you
Speaker 2: can feel the person and you know that you're in
Speaker 2: with right, So I can read these people really well.
Speaker 2: I know when they don't want to talk, I know
Speaker 2: when they do want to talk, and then I know
Speaker 2: when asked the question.
Speaker 5: Because you can't just come out and say.
Speaker 2: Hey, man, hey, have you ever have you ever experienced
Speaker 2: anything paranormal?
Speaker 5: It's you're gonna sound like a freak, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean? So yeah, I'll fins every episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can even be likes get.
Speaker 5: It in my car.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: They don't know what I do, right, so I do.
Speaker 2: I finesh them a little bit. I asked the questions.
Speaker 2: I get some really fascinating stories, bro, fascinating stories, Dude,
Speaker 2: I love it. That's how I start my show. And
Speaker 2: then I bring on the guests and we get started
Speaker 2: on you know, whatever we're talking about that day.
Speaker 5: And man, I love it.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. I like that idea. That is great. Nice, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: so go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 4: It's an interesting thing. I think a lot of the
Speaker 4: most interesting paranormal stories are the ones you have to
Speaker 4: ask people about. Know if they're telling you it may
Speaker 4: have been traumatic for them, but the people you ask
Speaker 4: and kind of prod them a little bit. They're the
Speaker 4: ones that have the real stuff, and that's that puts
Speaker 4: the pieces together. I think there is kind of an
Speaker 4: aspect of this that is the final frontier, you know,
Speaker 4: like the paranormal, psychic powers, magic, alternate dimensions. That's huge.
Speaker 4: You know, that's a whole other frontier of study. So
Speaker 4: you know, in some ways science is catching.
Speaker 1: Up to us.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, yeah. We're making discoveries that quite shocking
Speaker 2: in this day. You know, explain certain things, and then
Speaker 2: there's still, of course a ton of stuff that we
Speaker 2: cannot explain. And that's what I love. I love the
Speaker 2: stuff that is unexplained. You cannot really put your finger on.
Speaker 2: You cannot say it's real, right because how do you
Speaker 2: explain if it's real? Okay, tell me why is it real?
Speaker 2: No one knows really, I mean we're being honest, right.
Speaker 2: So the stories these people tell, I'm pretty like I said,
Speaker 2: I'm a skeptical guy and I can read when someone's
Speaker 2: feeding me alivee right. But some of these people that
Speaker 2: they're traumatized with some of these experiences, man, and it's nuts.
Speaker 2: So I love those stories. I will save those and
Speaker 2: tell them on the show. What I really need to
Speaker 2: do is I need to start a catalog of what
Speaker 2: I've read out, you know, and then whenever I get home,
Speaker 2: write out another catalog of what I just heard. Because
Speaker 2: what I'm finding now, I'm getting older and I'm not
Speaker 2: retaining everything. Man, I'm forgetting the whole thing. It's like,
Speaker 2: it's nuts.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: I'll give you an example. I'll give an example. Picked up
Speaker 2: this girl, she's going to work. It's pretty young, and
Speaker 2: I thought this one's got a story. Usually when I
Speaker 2: pick them up from an older neighborhood, yes, it's going
Speaker 2: to happen. She tells me that when she was younger
Speaker 2: high school and she was with her friend at the
Speaker 2: south side of San Antonio, where it's like an older neighborhood.
Speaker 2: She says that they were in a like a type
Speaker 2: of mother in law suite, like a small little shack
Speaker 2: behind the house. Behind that shack was an alley, right,
Speaker 2: and there there was three girls in there. There were
Speaker 2: just having a good old time. The back door of
Speaker 2: that shack was open to the alley.
Speaker 5: She says.
Speaker 2: They all turned towards the door and they saw a
Speaker 2: woman there floating, and she was in white and she
Speaker 2: was just floating looking directly at them, and they all
Speaker 2: screamed at the same time and ran inside and they
Speaker 2: told the mother, Hey, we just saw some lady in
Speaker 2: white floating out in the back. And the mother said, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: there used to be back in the day and there
Speaker 2: was a serial killer that was killing prostitutes. And I
Speaker 2: think that's probably what she saw, was one of the prostitutes.
Speaker 5: Like, what the hell kind of story? Man, that's nuts.
Speaker 2: I gotta look that up. I gotta see if I
Speaker 2: can find this so called serial killer. You know, interesting stuff, man,
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 5: I'm here for it.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 3: Uh hell, Lis, was there anything else you want to
Speaker 3: ask before I.
Speaker 4: Well, I was. I was gonna say there is a
Speaker 4: huge crossover between the genres between true crime and the paranormal.
Speaker 4: A lot of times you'll find that, you know, they're
Speaker 4: actually psychic solving crimes, and that never gets talked about
Speaker 4: on the news. You know, the police certainly don't want
Speaker 4: to mention it. And there's the Stone tape theory as well,
Speaker 4: where they think that somehow these traumatic incidents will be
Speaker 4: you know, sort of embedded into the energy and area
Speaker 4: and other people can pick up on it, or if
Speaker 4: there's some sort of astrological alignment. I'm not sure exactly
Speaker 4: how that works, but these things will replay over again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like memorys right, So it's like it's an
Speaker 2: unintelligent haunting.
Speaker 5: It's not.
Speaker 2: It's just a replay basically. And uh yeah, science kind
Speaker 2: of leans on that. But I would love for like
Speaker 2: an experiment to see how that really works. If that's true,
Speaker 2: how can we find out? Well, we know the rock, right,
Speaker 2: we know where it's at, we know that something happened here.
Speaker 2: How do we find that? You know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, we're getting to the black phone.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we get there, Steve, Come on, man, is
Speaker 2: that what you help people?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: That was uh so yeah right, yeah, sorry, I didn't
Speaker 3: mean to throw that up to Russia. Actually, yeah, I
Speaker 3: was going to ask you so black phone too. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you've seen it already. You're a fan of the first one,
Speaker 3: I assume, so that's why he went to the second one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was, uh, you know, I really liked the
Speaker 2: first one.
Speaker 5: It was uh so.
Speaker 2: I don't know how old you guys are, but I
Speaker 2: grew up in the seventies, so I was born you're
Speaker 2: born seventy eight, seventy eight. I was like six or
Speaker 2: something like that. Seven, I don't know. But the movie
Speaker 2: The Black Phone, the first movie Ethan Hawk. They did
Speaker 2: that movie so well that I was transported back into
Speaker 2: the seventies man, because they caught that whole era perfectly.
Speaker 2: I was kind of shocked by it because it was like, Wow,
Speaker 2: I actually thought it was the one.
Speaker 5: What's that?
Speaker 1: Actually?
Speaker 3: I haven't been too impressed with too many horror movies
Speaker 3: in the last few years, but the first one.
Speaker 1: Actually thought it was kind of cool. I thought it
Speaker 1: was good.
Speaker 5: It was cool.
Speaker 2: You're talking, well like serial killer, you're talking abduction. It's
Speaker 2: true crime, right, And then it had an element of
Speaker 2: the supernatural and had that It was like encased in
Speaker 2: this whole genre, this whole uh decade, man, and it
Speaker 2: really it filled the room with that decade.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: I was so impressed by that, man was I knew
Speaker 2: exactly what it was like in that decade, and it
Speaker 2: was exactly like that movie, man. So if you want
Speaker 2: to know what the seventies was like, go watch that movie.
Speaker 1: You know what.
Speaker 3: It reminded me of a little bit. It was like
Speaker 3: a paranormal twist on the movie the others. Yeah like that, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know how like they were just yeah it was
Speaker 3: that was actually thought that was.
Speaker 1: A good movie, too true.
Speaker 2: That was a good one. I saw that actually about
Speaker 2: a year ago, maybe maybe a year and a half ago.
Speaker 2: It was one of those movies kind of like The
Speaker 2: Sixth Sense where people ruined it for you before. If
Speaker 2: you haven't seen The Sixth Sense, I don't feel sorry
Speaker 2: for you. But if you hadn't seen The Sixth Sense,
Speaker 2: you already know what happened by now probably yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: but same thing with the others. And I hadn't seen it.
Speaker 2: So I watched that, and I was impressed with the ending.
Speaker 3: That was a good twist on it, that it was
Speaker 3: kind of like just basically like from what I got
Speaker 3: out of it too, which I thought it was just
Speaker 3: like even what twisted, It's like we did this just
Speaker 3: because we can, like yeah, yeah right, yeah, that was
Speaker 3: just like fuck, like all right.
Speaker 5: So cool.
Speaker 2: I had this other page that I'm trying to build up.
Speaker 2: It's called you to r h Cinematic Universe, and that's
Speaker 2: of course down the rabbit Hole Cinematic Universe.
Speaker 5: That page.
Speaker 2: I only have about three thousand plus followers on it,
Speaker 2: but I do review movies and I'm about to record
Speaker 2: that review.
Speaker 5: And post that.
Speaker 2: I also have this is hilarious. My fourth show, Headless.
Speaker 2: It's called The Real Verdict, and it is mainly a
Speaker 2: podcast where we rate movies right, and I am.
Speaker 5: The movie judge.
Speaker 2: I have a robe, you know, I have a gabble, right,
Speaker 2: and we prosecute the shit out of movies. We put
Speaker 2: them to the test man, and at the end, I
Speaker 2: give my final verdict on you know what the deal is,
Speaker 2: and that is the Real Verdict. It's out there now.
Speaker 2: The first two episodes are out, and what we'd like
Speaker 2: to do is we will review a trailer and one
Speaker 2: week like and then the very next week we'll review
Speaker 2: the whole movie. So we'll talk about the trailer and
Speaker 2: let it know to go watch this movie. And then
Speaker 2: the very next week on a Monday, we released the
Speaker 2: episode where we basically either trash it or we build
Speaker 2: it up or whatever. Whoever likes it. I got a
Speaker 2: prosecutor that's gonna prosecute it, doesn't like it.
Speaker 5: We have a defense that.
Speaker 2: Likes the movie, you know, and these people that's Kevin
Speaker 2: is on it, Kevin sat Piel Junior. Usually he is
Speaker 2: the prosecutor. And then we have Alicia Watson. She has
Speaker 2: Twisted an Uncorked podcasts, which is a true crime paranoral thing.
Speaker 5: Also really great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's great, and she also has Truly Twisted, which
Speaker 2: is another podcast she does. She's fantastic and beautiful as
Speaker 2: you can do. I don't know how we looked out
Speaker 2: getting her on the show, but she's usually the defense,
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, I love I love movies, man,
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 5: I don't know how else to put it. I love movies.
Speaker 2: So I will become the movie judge on those episodes
Speaker 2: and will prosecute movies. Black Phone two just recently on that. Hey, man,
Speaker 2: I was worried when I saw the trailer. I'm to
Speaker 2: be all seen the trailer. I was a little worried, man,
Speaker 2: because I was picking up uh you.
Speaker 5: Know, Freddy Krueger vibes. Man.
Speaker 2: I was like, this is that what this is going?
Speaker 2: Are they gonna do like they can't go to sleep
Speaker 2: kind of shit? But no, they they don't do that.
Speaker 2: It's totally different. I believe you have to watch one.
Speaker 2: You know, this is not one of those movies where
Speaker 2: you can just get away from not watching one, you
Speaker 2: go straight to two.
Speaker 5: No, do you have to watch, Do you mind what done?
Speaker 1: Do you mind? After you done saying whatever you're saying it?
Speaker 3: Just because I've even seen people in the chat mentioned it,
Speaker 3: I was gonna ask if you don't mind wasting just
Speaker 3: a few minutes to maybe even give us an idea
Speaker 3: of what Black Phone one was like before we get
Speaker 3: into two.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it's not that I was talking about it before.
Speaker 1: Like no, no, no, you were, Yeah, no you were,
Speaker 1: but like just maybe give a little bit more of
Speaker 1: like I guess.
Speaker 2: Uh So, basically what it entails, it's a this guy
Speaker 2: called the Grabber played by Ethan Hawk. He's basically abducting children, right,
Speaker 2: and that is basically a whole story. He abducts the
Speaker 2: main character, right, and the main character is now caught
Speaker 2: by Ethan Hawk's character, and you get to see there's
Speaker 2: a phone in there. Okay, it's a black phone. Believe
Speaker 2: it or not. It's a black phone in the room
Speaker 2: that the kid is held, and it's not plugged in,
Speaker 2: but it does ring. And when he answers the phone,
Speaker 2: it's the basically the souls of the other boys who
Speaker 2: were in there before him that didn't make it, and
Speaker 2: they help him to try to get out. That's the premise.
Speaker 2: That's the whole premise of the show, of the movie.
Speaker 2: It's very good. It's a very interesting ending. You see
Speaker 2: that movie and you're like, how can they do a
Speaker 2: part two?
Speaker 5: But Part two.
Speaker 2: Goes into depth. They're actually older. Now it's the eighties now, right.
Speaker 2: They do a good job on the eighties. Not as
Speaker 2: good as the seventies, but they do a good job.
Speaker 2: You see the character, he's older, he is troubled by
Speaker 2: what happened to him. The sister, who basically was a
Speaker 2: big part of Part one, she's a larger part in
Speaker 2: part two. She's great. Ethan Hawk was amazing. The only
Speaker 2: thing I have I'm not gonna say against Ethan Hawk.
Speaker 2: The thing about Ethan Hawk in this in part two
Speaker 2: is I can never see him because he's mainly on
Speaker 2: the mask, right, and so you're like, is this really
Speaker 2: him or is this his voice or whatever? It's really him.
Speaker 2: It's really him, and he's fantastic in this movie. And
Speaker 2: you know there are some questions, not really questions, but
Speaker 2: there's some. There's a mystery in one Black Phone one
Speaker 2: that gets resolved and answered in Black Phone two, and
Speaker 2: that was like a it was a off.
Speaker 5: That was beautiful.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 5: I loved it. I loved it.
Speaker 2: It was like, yes, answer these questions. Fantastic, good job,
Speaker 2: very good movie. I would give it like eight and
Speaker 2: a half, you know, White Rabbits, Doug eight and a
Speaker 2: half man, solid, solid movie. Absolutely the last.
Speaker 4: The last horror movie I saw was Smile and Smile Too.
Speaker 4: That was in for me.
Speaker 6: I'm done watching horror movies for a while. It was
Speaker 6: so messed up, really really did uh? What did you
Speaker 6: not like it? Was it not entertaining for you or
Speaker 6: what was it deal?
Speaker 4: It was brutal, like the ending scene and Smile it
Speaker 4: was like, oh man, yep, yep, it's nightmare. But they
Speaker 4: made it so realistic it was, you know, hard to.
Speaker 2: Watch Part two though. The ending of part two insists
Speaker 2: on a part three. Don't you think it's like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, it's gonna be a cataclysmic Part three is
Speaker 2: gonna be apocalyptic.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be if it it does. I think it is.
Speaker 5: They are working on it. I think they are working
Speaker 5: on part three.
Speaker 2: But they like open it up, so yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: I would say, have you seen weapons? You guys haven't
Speaker 2: seen weapons. I'm calling that the best horror movie of
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five right now. I thought was very impressed
Speaker 2: by that movie. I don't remember exactly the I think
Speaker 2: it was like a nine to five. I gave it
Speaker 2: an ninety six. The other horror movie that was really
Speaker 2: really good with Sinners, with Michael B.
Speaker 4: Jordan in it.
Speaker 2: He plays two characters and it's mainly about vampires. I
Speaker 2: was impressed. I'm not a vampire like I love vampire
Speaker 2: now I don't because they're played out, man, they're played out.
Speaker 2: But you know this guy, he took that movie, you know,
Speaker 2: the director who also directed The Black Panther. He took
Speaker 2: that movie and he extended, like the vampire our genre.
Speaker 2: He added more depth to it, and I was very impressed.
Speaker 2: And they're also talking about doing it pretty couel. With
Speaker 2: the very beginning of Sinners, there's a like a Native
Speaker 2: American group that's hunting one of the vampires in the
Speaker 2: very beginning, and like the sun is coming up and
Speaker 2: then they leave and then you never see him again.
Speaker 2: And so they're talking about making a movie about that
Speaker 2: those characters because they were compelling for the short amount
Speaker 2: of time they're on the movie. But I love horror movies. Man,
Speaker 2: I can't get enough.
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of horror movies. What was Weapons about?
Speaker 1: I haven't heard of this?
Speaker 2: So Weapons is a movie about it. Zach Craiger is
Speaker 2: a director and writer of this movie. And that dude
Speaker 2: he did Barbarian. I don't have you ever heard of Barbarian,
Speaker 2: But if you've never seen that and you're a fan
Speaker 2: of body horror, check that shit out because that was
Speaker 2: really good. But Weapons is basically seventeen children from the
Speaker 2: same class at two seventeen in the morning all get
Speaker 2: up and run outside and you can see, like the
Speaker 2: door cams see these kids and they're running in a
Speaker 2: freaky way where their arms are stretched out and they're
Speaker 2: just running and they're never seen again. And that's where
Speaker 2: it picks up. And I think that's a brilliant premise
Speaker 2: because you're talking about missing children, right, you know, it
Speaker 2: hits you right in the dad Jean or whatever, you're like,
Speaker 2: you want these kids. Then you have the teacher who
Speaker 2: is under suspicion because it's her classroom. Only one kid
Speaker 2: is left. The rest are gone, man, And then you
Speaker 2: get oh my god, Thanos, who's the guy plays Danos?
Speaker 2: Josh Brolin, Josh Brolin is one of the dads of
Speaker 2: the one of the kids that ran out, and he's
Speaker 2: trying to find his son any way he can, and
Speaker 2: he's like asking the teeth that like. It's great, man,
Speaker 2: it's a great movie. I don't want to give any
Speaker 2: spoilers away, but it's dark where it turns out you
Speaker 2: find out how these kids are are, like how they
Speaker 2: were controlled. Basically they were treated like weapons, and at
Speaker 2: the end you find out. It's so good man, it's
Speaker 2: so good. Oh my god, it's nuts. You have to
Speaker 2: watch it. If you haven't seen Weapons, go out and
Speaker 2: see it. Best horror movie of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5: You love it.
Speaker 2: If you love horror movies and you like suspense, you
Speaker 2: want to know, you know, want the answer. You're going
Speaker 2: to get an answer here. That's the best part. But
Speaker 2: it is dark. It's dark. So they're already talking about
Speaker 2: a prequel to that movie because there's a character in
Speaker 2: it that is so how can I weird looking? I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna say that, so weird looking and so diabolical
Speaker 2: that it demands a prequel. So that's what they're going
Speaker 2: to work on next. I think is breaking Up. Really
Speaker 2: this is a really interesting comment, he says. Zach Kreeger,
Speaker 2: the director of the twenty twenty five film Weapons, wrote
Speaker 2: the movie as a way to cope with the death
Speaker 2: of his closes with partner Trevor Miss. They were both
Speaker 2: in a comedy trope together and they were close. You know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was that was like all early two thousands
Speaker 4: comedy like that was the cutting edge stuff on the
Speaker 4: internet back then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff. Man, the guy is talented. I'm impressed
Speaker 2: with him. So you're into that kind of stuff, check
Speaker 2: that out. Check out Barbarian. Also the guy who plays
Speaker 2: it in the most.
Speaker 5: Recent Its movie. Somebody helped me out with that name.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: He's part of the famous family of actors that his brother,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, played a crap I can't remember. Anyway,
Speaker 2: this this guy is in Barbarian. That movie goes a
Speaker 2: whole other way you don't expect. Basically, the premise of
Speaker 2: Barbarian is this woman goes to a Airbnb and she
Speaker 2: finds it it's already booked. Someone's already in her Airbnb.
Speaker 2: And the dude is like, hey, you know, this is
Speaker 2: not really a great neighbor. And I don't know if
Speaker 2: you know this, but you're more than welcome to stay here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And she's like, I don't know. I think I'll wait
Speaker 2: out and try to get a you know, an uber
Speaker 2: or whatever. Of course, no uber shows up. She has
Speaker 2: to go in there. He says, I'll sleep out in
Speaker 2: the living room, take the bed, worry. And this is
Speaker 2: the IT character back by the way. This is the
Speaker 2: guy who plays it. He's normal here. He doesn't have
Speaker 2: any clown MAKEUPU But he's like, you're like, dude, nah,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't do that. I far are you. I would
Speaker 2: walk or do something else. But that doesn't go the
Speaker 2: way you think it goes. It's just one of those
Speaker 2: this guy takes you on a journey. You think you
Speaker 2: know where you're going, and then it goes a whole
Speaker 2: other way. Man, And wow, you know, the endings are great.
Speaker 2: He's going to be talked about. He's going to be
Speaker 2: like a I would say, like the guy who directed
Speaker 2: the Shining Name. You know, when you get older, names
Speaker 2: that are here and here go there. They don't stay
Speaker 2: here in this area for some reason. But yeah, he's
Speaker 2: going to be around for a long time. I think
Speaker 2: that guy is great, great writer. Yeah, imagine imagine losing
Speaker 2: a really good friend. And this is how you cope.
Speaker 2: You write an excellent horror movie that just explodes and
Speaker 2: makes a lot of money.
Speaker 4: Well, the interesting part is a little bit of the
Speaker 4: conspiracy around Trevor. Right, A lot of people online were,
Speaker 4: you know, assuming that it was because of his political
Speaker 4: stances and a lot of the uh, really conspiratorial things
Speaker 4: that Trevor was saying. So right after that he died
Speaker 4: suddenly and for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really didn't know that dude too much. I
Speaker 2: didn't know what his stance was or whatever he was doing.
Speaker 2: I just knew he was a friend of Zach and
Speaker 2: that was kind of a that's sad man.
Speaker 5: Listen, the kid was young. I think he was a
Speaker 5: young guy.
Speaker 4: He was my age. How old are you forty two?
Speaker 5: Wow?
Speaker 1: Babies?
Speaker 2: Yea, sweet children. I would take Nick out just to
Speaker 2: be forty two again, for sure. That's that would be easy.
Speaker 1: What about What do you think about Rob Zombie as
Speaker 1: a horror movie?
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't really know, you know, honestly, I have not
Speaker 2: seen any of movies. Yeah, I mean his music's okay,
Speaker 2: it's not my cup of tea.
Speaker 3: But.
Speaker 1: Actually I don't know.
Speaker 2: Man, It's Halloween interesting to me. I've never been drawn
Speaker 2: into like super slasher movies. You know, that's kind of
Speaker 2: what I think he's into, these super slasher type Oh well,
Speaker 2: good for you, man, you're thirty three. Fantastic for you.
Speaker 2: Eat a cookie, man, drink some milk, and go to sleep.
Speaker 1: Look at jewels.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I liked I really liked his remake of Halloween's.
Speaker 3: But I mean, I as an occultist or whatever you
Speaker 3: I want to call myself here, I pretend I particularly
Speaker 3: like his stuff because I think he throws a lot
Speaker 3: of that in there. So yeah, especially with Halloween, I
Speaker 3: think he deeply made it, throw a lot of the
Speaker 3: cult ship in the The guy's got a fucking lady's
Speaker 3: got a white horse next to him.
Speaker 1: These guys lose.
Speaker 5: Tell me you saw that Halloween movie? Recent one?
Speaker 2: Where is it Halloween or which one is the Jason one?
Speaker 2: Is that thirteenth?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Thirteen?
Speaker 2: So Jason that movie where he's back or whatever and
Speaker 2: he gets caught by the neighborhood. You know what I'm
Speaker 2: talking about here. There's a Jason movie. It's a recent one.
Speaker 2: He is, you know, running around. People are tired of
Speaker 2: this shit, and so they all come out after him, right,
Speaker 2: and he's out in the street and then one person
Speaker 2: strikes him. Boom, Another person strikes him. Next thing you know,
Speaker 2: he's on the ground and they're just going to town
Speaker 2: on this dude. And you think this is it, This
Speaker 2: is how they end Jason m m No, man, that's
Speaker 2: not how they do it.
Speaker 5: He don't die. This dude don't die, ends up killing
Speaker 5: everybody that was.
Speaker 1: Trying to kill him.
Speaker 5: Anti fucking climactic.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 5: I was like, really, man, that's how you gotta do this.
Speaker 2: Oh my God, Jesus Christ, Way to God.
Speaker 4: One thing I've noticed is that the the whole you know,
Speaker 4: sort of occult slash witch smile of genre doesn't really
Speaker 4: get a lot of play in the uh in the
Speaker 4: horror movie scene anymore.
Speaker 2: Old go see weapons, Go see weapons, really go see weapons.
Speaker 5: My friend.
Speaker 2: Uh, we're gonna have homework assignments giving out today and
Speaker 2: I'm gonna come back on your show and I'm gonna
Speaker 2: want a report card. I want a book report or
Speaker 2: or whatever you wanted to do, not an report. Don't
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 5: Tell me.
Speaker 2: I want to know what you guys think about that one,
Speaker 2: because it does reach the occult it's freaking awesome. Man,
Speaker 2: it's freaking awesome. I was just thinking about the Blair
Speaker 2: Witch Project. Do you guys ever see that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: How about that one?
Speaker 1: I thought that show was wild when I was younger.
Speaker 4: Fe right, that was right before they introduced the uh,
Speaker 4: the reality TV shows. Right, they sort of went from
Speaker 4: this bakish movie over to reality TV.
Speaker 2: It kind of changed the world absolutely because when we
Speaker 2: saw when I went to go see the movie, they
Speaker 2: made it seem like these people actually were missing like this,
Speaker 2: these were real people and they're still missing. And so
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, well, shit, I gotta go see this.
Speaker 2: People are gone, man, and it's their footage. Let's go
Speaker 2: check that shit out. And then later on haha, we're
Speaker 2: just joking, guys, it's not real. It's a joke. Ha ha,
Speaker 2: joke's on you. Yeah, but you got my money. And
Speaker 2: they got a lot of money on that movie. They
Speaker 2: it costs so little to make, but it made millions
Speaker 2: and millions and millions man, and yeah, it changed basically,
Speaker 2: it changed the world.
Speaker 5: I mean, they do that.
Speaker 2: Would the office be here if it weren't for something
Speaker 2: like this, you know, where all these reality TV shows
Speaker 2: be there.
Speaker 5: For something like this, yeah.
Speaker 3: Trump Trump Trump kind of actually really came out with
Speaker 3: a lot of there you go, yeah Trump elected.
Speaker 2: You can connect it all, right, yeah, all over the place.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: Definitely go down the rabbit hole with that one.
Speaker 5: Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 3: Have you ever had have you ever watched any like
Speaker 3: paranormal movies? I kind of sent you down a rabbit
Speaker 3: hole like looking into it.
Speaker 2: Hmmm, that's a good question. I think, you know. The
Speaker 2: unfortunate thing about being so into the paranormal and it's
Speaker 2: like a passion for me, is that I'm not surprised
Speaker 2: by anything that comes out and it like, like, you know,
Speaker 2: if you are so into movies, man, it's hard to
Speaker 2: sit through a movie and just enjoy it when you're
Speaker 2: like judging every little thing right, and that bothers me sometimes.
Speaker 2: But I try to be as objective as I can.
Speaker 2: But no, I mean, there's there's a lot of bizarre lore.
Speaker 2: Like there's a movie called The Taking of Deborah Row
Speaker 2: I think the name is the name of the movie,
Speaker 2: and it was this old woman basically, it was a
Speaker 2: horror movie. It was an old woman and this film
Speaker 2: crew they were doing their dissertation or doing some sort
Speaker 2: of film and they were going to present it. So
Speaker 2: they're there spending the weekend recording her. But then they
Speaker 2: find that she's freaking possessed in some way, so much
Speaker 2: so that at the end of the movie, she takes
Speaker 2: her I think it's her granddaughter or something. She takes
Speaker 2: it to this cave and you actually see her begin
Speaker 2: to swallow the child. Her mouth opens up wide enough
Speaker 2: and fits the kid's whole head into her mind. So
Speaker 2: creepiest thing I see in a long time. Wow, dude,
Speaker 2: it was nuts to see that. I don't even remember
Speaker 2: they saved that kid. I was just like, what am
Speaker 2: I watching right now? This is insane? Is there is
Speaker 2: there more to this story? Is there?
Speaker 5: Is there a backstory to it? But there was. It
Speaker 5: was just a made up horror movie.
Speaker 4: But yeah, you got to get into foreign horror movies,
Speaker 4: the horror movies, monic shit, all that Southeast Asia, all
Speaker 4: the rest of that stuff. They've got some real.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you.
Speaker 2: One of my favorite videos that I've shared was uh
Speaker 2: I believe it was an in Indonesia. So there are
Speaker 2: these guys who are trying to like record at a cemetery,
Speaker 2: and so they're filming. They're having a good old time
Speaker 2: and one of them gets in. He's got a white
Speaker 2: T shirt on. He gets into an empty it looks
Speaker 2: like a casket. It doesn't look like a grave, Doug.
Speaker 2: It looks like there's a hole and there's a casket
Speaker 2: in it.
Speaker 5: It's empty.
Speaker 2: He lays down in it on his back, right, and
Speaker 2: he's sitting there and he's talking and all this stuff,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden they're they're filming him and
Speaker 2: you see his shirt get pulled like this by nothing,
Speaker 2: but just see it, and it freaks him out. He
Speaker 2: gets out and awesome footage.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 2: A little bit later they're standing and talking and then
Speaker 2: he gets pulled again. But he gets pulled and thrown
Speaker 2: to the ground, which I thought was this is some
Speaker 2: great if it's real, this is some great evidence, man,
Speaker 2: great stuff.
Speaker 4: It's fake. Congratulations he got me.
Speaker 2: I know, dude, cause you know, when I started doing this,
Speaker 2: I only wanted to present real stuff. And through the
Speaker 2: process of this, first of all, it's very difficult to prove,
Speaker 2: and then it's just the further. You know, when I started,
Speaker 2: there was this video of Will Smith eating spaghetti.
Speaker 5: And it looked ridiculous. Have you ever seen this?
Speaker 2: It's just it doesn't look like Will Smith and Spaghetti's dumb. Well,
Speaker 2: they did that recently, I would say about six months
Speaker 2: ago to maybe a year ago. It looks like Will
Speaker 2: Smith actually eating.
Speaker 5: It looks real.
Speaker 2: It is real, man, and it's so good now that
Speaker 2: it's very difficult to tell. Luckily, there are still some
Speaker 2: programs you can run videos through that I'll tell you, yes,
Speaker 2: this is AI. But when is it going to fool that?
Speaker 2: That's when I'm like, oh man, it's gonna be really
Speaker 2: hard to find stuff because it looks so real now.
Speaker 4: Horror movie idea, a guy wakes up and finds that
Speaker 4: he's spotting things in reality that are like glitches in
Speaker 4: the AI. So he's inside of a machine.
Speaker 5: Baby, what if we're AI.
Speaker 2: What if we're the AI of someone else's creation and
Speaker 2: it just got out of control? Man, and reality is
Speaker 2: not really reality? Which I mean science is already saying
Speaker 2: that we are creating reality as we go along, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's so much research on this that it's
Speaker 2: it's really fascinating stuff that you can actually hack your reality.
Speaker 2: You can actually, if you can do this right, create
Speaker 2: they call it manifesting. I don't know about all that
Speaker 2: I do know that if I believe I'm going to
Speaker 2: have a million followers next year, then I'm gonna have
Speaker 2: a million followers next year. If I truly believe that
Speaker 2: in my mind, it's going to happen, It's gonna happen. Okay,
Speaker 2: maybe sooner than later, who knows. But yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean right, But I mean, what if it's real. No,
Speaker 2: you gotta get some Rosemarry. You got to start Rosemary maxing.
Speaker 2: I've heard it's a very lucky herb.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It helps with the like memory too. Also, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of it's really good stuff. Man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I heard that.
Speaker 2: If you eat blueberries with cucumber some weird it's like
Speaker 2: like a super food that can do some I don't
Speaker 2: know what, clear up cobwebs from your brain or whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 5: It's some cool shit.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: They're coming out with all sorts of stuff. It's just
Speaker 2: up to you to try to do your own research
Speaker 2: and figure out, Okay, it's this real or it's just not.
Speaker 2: You got to look into it. You can't just believe
Speaker 2: everything they say because my god, it's not. You know,
Speaker 2: you have a brain, so use it. Try to figure
Speaker 2: out what's real. What's not you know, Creating I found
Speaker 2: is like, for example, I take some Creatine daily, and
Speaker 2: before I started taking Creating, I was forgetting tons of shit. Now,
Speaker 2: mind you, I've forgotten several things during this episode, but
Speaker 2: I haven't taken my creatine in two three days there when.
Speaker 2: But when I'm taking it, I'm sharper. I have all
Speaker 2: the you know, all the stuff I need is right there.
Speaker 2: You know, I can talk about it. It's free. It's
Speaker 2: like really easy.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, when I'm not on it, it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: I have these brain farts where I'm like, Who's Who's
Speaker 2: I Who's that guy?
Speaker 1: Illire?
Speaker 5: Remember you know Josh Brolin.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 5: Takes a second. But I mean, have you heard of
Speaker 5: simulation theory? Guys? Are you into the simulation.
Speaker 1: Kind of?
Speaker 3: I mean that last night, I do think we're I
Speaker 3: don't know from my experience it's something. I just think
Speaker 3: we're in some sort of manipulation of light something like that.
Speaker 2: Which there are two different things I was posting recently.
Speaker 2: One of them is if you take d MT and
Speaker 2: you put a red laser, you can see code. You
Speaker 2: can see code. And then there's another video I posted
Speaker 2: where this scientist was talking to Neil de grass Heysen
Speaker 2: and some other scientists on a stage and he was
Speaker 2: telling Neil that he had discovered that everything has a
Speaker 2: code behind it and it's kind of its computer code.
Speaker 2: And he says that it breaks. Everything breaks down to
Speaker 2: computer code, believe it or not, everything all matter. And
Speaker 2: it was blowing Neil de grasse Tyson's mind. He was like,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, what And he would explain it to
Speaker 2: him and he was like wait what. He was just
Speaker 2: freaked out by this. And the guy showed it. He
Speaker 2: showed his work up on the board and it was
Speaker 2: like pretty amazing. So I think that there's a probably
Speaker 2: one in a billion chances that we aren't in a simulator.
Speaker 2: That we definitely aren't a simulation. This is all a simulation.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 3: Well, I've heard him even say one time he was
Speaker 3: joking around with somebody but they were like, damn that
Speaker 3: what if that's the truth. He had said that maybe
Speaker 3: the reason why we can't go faster than the speed
Speaker 3: of light supposedly is because then we'd be going faster
Speaker 3: than the program could even write what we're doing.
Speaker 5: That's brilliant, that's brilliant.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Fuck yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, think about what the processing power you would
Speaker 2: have to have to run an entire world of eight
Speaker 2: billion people. I think we can go to the speed
Speaker 2: of light. I think we can definitely do that. I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure it won't Maybe it'll be glitches. There's glitches
Speaker 2: all over the place. I post glitches all the time,
Speaker 2: tons of glitches. Right, I've seen I've actually seen one
Speaker 2: where there's a plane in the air not moving. Me
Speaker 2: and my girlfriend were driving and we could see it.
Speaker 2: It was not moving at all. I was like, dude,
Speaker 2: I see this on videos all the time. Why am
Speaker 2: I actually seeing this? This shouldn't be happening. Well, there's
Speaker 2: a scientific explanation, of course, but dude, come on, my
Speaker 2: eyes are not deceiving me. I saw this fucking thing
Speaker 2: just hang there in the air.
Speaker 5: It's not moving. Why is that?
Speaker 2: And don't tell me it's because you know the speed
Speaker 2: X ratio to the chef. Fuck up, man, it's not moving, man,
Speaker 2: it's stick it's up in the air. Bro it's not
Speaker 2: moving at all. Bizarre. I didn't think I'd ever see
Speaker 2: anything like that, but I finally did. I can't explain it,
Speaker 2: and I'm not gonna.
Speaker 4: Try so do you think we're losing processing power? Is
Speaker 4: that why these glitches keep happening?
Speaker 5: Maybe? Maybe?
Speaker 2: Uh, there's too many freaking programs to runner, and we
Speaker 2: keep yes, way too many. We keep creating people. Man,
Speaker 2: you know we're overloading the system, Doug, what's gonna it's
Speaker 2: going to explode, I think eventually, and uh, everything's gonna
Speaker 2: stop and then we're gonna continue.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: That's probably gonna take them one hundred years or so
Speaker 2: to fix it, and then we'll just continue and we
Speaker 2: won't know the difference. It will be like time never stopped.
Speaker 2: But you know, in reality, one hundred years have gone by.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I'm saying all these things and
Speaker 2: just popping into my head, but hey, that's the way
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 4: All these cataclysms with somebody shaking the snow globe. H,
Speaker 4: we're all.
Speaker 1: What We're all in the the eyeball of a blue
Speaker 1: giant or some shit.
Speaker 5: Interesting that there's all these like like this.
Speaker 2: You think about three six nine, right, you think about
Speaker 2: the Golden ratio and those patterns. You see them in
Speaker 2: nature and then you see them in space and they're
Speaker 2: the same patterns. Man, They're everywhere. What does that tell you.
Speaker 2: Is that is that an explanation to something? Is that
Speaker 2: letting us know that this is all just not real?
Speaker 2: It's just I got the simulation.
Speaker 4: So way back in ancient history, all the plants didn't
Speaker 4: go by the fire ratio, right, and so the golden
Speaker 4: ratio or the fire ratio that you see in all
Speaker 4: these leaves and stuff, at one point in our history,
Speaker 4: in ancient history, all the plants didn't go by that formula.
Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden that formula was introduced
Speaker 4: in all the plants now go by the fire ratio.
Speaker 4: They don't have any explanation.
Speaker 5: Was it an upgrade? Did they upgrade in the system?
Speaker 4: Is that good? A bed?
Speaker 3: I mean kind of like seven, if you messed with botany,
Speaker 3: you're still getting into botany. I mean that is kind
Speaker 3: of like almost like looking at like basic math of life.
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, yeah, it's the language of everything. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean I don't know, man, I don't have any answers.
Speaker 2: I just love to talk about this shit and I
Speaker 2: love it. Yeah, what about uh?
Speaker 7: Before we wrap it up, I did want to ask
Speaker 7: you maybe on a and not to put like any
Speaker 7: guests al any topic on the spot but like, uh,
Speaker 7: maybe give us a couple of like maybe like your
Speaker 7: top three, like some of you the guests, or like
Speaker 7: shows you've covered on your show recently or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely only have twelve episodes right now.
Speaker 5: I did have.
Speaker 2: Let's see, one of my favorites was was Jonathan Uh.
Speaker 2: That is Galbon. He is Latinos against spooky shit. He's hilarious.
Speaker 5: This guy.
Speaker 2: He covers the paranormal, but he covers it in a
Speaker 2: funny way. Like he'll show a video and he has
Speaker 2: himself in it, making these scared faces and hiding you know,
Speaker 2: green screen and whatnot. And at the end of the
Speaker 2: video he'll present his recommendations. It's usually like, you know,
Speaker 2: some hispanic thing, gets some vis out, slather it all
Speaker 2: over the ghost or whatever, get some taheen and sprayed
Speaker 2: in its eyes, get the chunk loud.
Speaker 5: He's just he's hilarious. He's a comedian.
Speaker 2: I've already told him he needs to do stand up.
Speaker 2: He's working on his set right now. But that guy,
Speaker 2: You're gonna hear a lot about him later. He's definitely
Speaker 2: my favorite. I have a friend of mine who I've
Speaker 2: been on his show several times.
Speaker 5: His name is Tommy Cullum.
Speaker 2: He has Let's Get Freaky podcasts and he's out of England.
Speaker 2: He was great on the show. That guy is electric.
Speaker 2: He's just he's funny man. He but you want to
Speaker 2: talk about passionate about the paranormal, This dude is passionate
Speaker 2: about this stuff. He loves it. He had a lot
Speaker 2: of great stories to tell. I remember being on the
Speaker 2: show and he was like, yeah, have you ever had
Speaker 2: any other experience with any other experiences? Like, man, I'm
Speaker 2: running out of experiences here, but I don't have that many.
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. But he'll start talking about other stuff.
Speaker 2: He's great. Tommy Collin is fantastic. Definitely check out Let's
Speaker 2: Get Freaky. It's a great shows. He's deep in the
Speaker 2: two hundreds now episode wise and one of my favorites. Now,
Speaker 2: my other favorite guest is one of my closest friends.
Speaker 2: I met her because she was on Tommy show. Her
Speaker 2: name's JJ Rose seven to seven seven, psychic medium, white
Speaker 2: witch has all these abilities. Man, her lineage runs into Salem.
Speaker 2: Oh one of yeah, one of the witches that was
Speaker 2: hung was her ancestor essentially, and oh my god, Elizabeth Howe.
Speaker 2: Elizabeth how she had four children before she was sentenced.
Speaker 4: And so.
Speaker 2: This woman I reached out to her because I you know,
Speaker 2: I listened to the show and she held herself like
Speaker 2: very professional, but the stuff she was saying. She was
Speaker 2: saying things about there are some tree spirits and you know,
Speaker 2: this fairy or whatever. And I was like, what the
Speaker 2: fuck is she talking about? Okay, you know, I don't
Speaker 2: know about all that shit, but let me message her.
Speaker 2: I messaged her and said, listen, I want to tell
Speaker 2: you you were fantastic on the show. I like the
Speaker 2: way you held yourself. It was great stuff. And she says, oh, well,
Speaker 2: thank you. Do you want me to do.
Speaker 5: A check in?
Speaker 2: And I said, what what's the check in? She goes,
Speaker 2: I'm going to go in there and see what's up,
Speaker 2: and I'll tell you what's up. And I was like, okay, yeah, sure,
Speaker 2: and she says, well, I need you to not be driving.
Speaker 2: I need you to be sitting or not walking, but
Speaker 2: have both your feet on the ground and I'll be
Speaker 2: there in a minute. And I thought, what, Yeah, okay, lady,
Speaker 2: I'll see you in a minute.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: I wasn't even in Texas. I was in Virginia. Right,
Speaker 2: She's what she's gonna find me? Where where's she from?
Speaker 2: Turns out she's in California, So I ignore her completely and
Speaker 2: I started talking to my girlfriend. We're at my stepson's
Speaker 2: house and we're having a good old time. About five
Speaker 2: minutes go by and I start to feel a light
Speaker 2: like my body starts to vibrate right, and it was
Speaker 2: like a very light vibration, Like what the hell? And
Speaker 2: then he got more intense and more intense. And this
Speaker 2: is before I had a heart attack, so I didn't
Speaker 2: know what a heart attack was like. It was more
Speaker 2: intense and more intense, and I was legitimately freaked out.
Speaker 2: I was like, what the fuck is happening, Angie, something's wrong.
Speaker 2: I think I'm having a heart attack. What the fuck
Speaker 2: is going on? I don't know what's going on. I'm shaky.
Speaker 2: It feels like my whole body is shaking. And then
Speaker 2: she messaged me and she says, okay, I'm done, and
Speaker 2: it went away slowly. Next thing you know, I'm normal,
Speaker 2: everything's fine. And I get a message from her of
Speaker 2: five things and she was right about every single one
Speaker 2: of them. Man, I was fucking shocked. I was shocked
Speaker 2: later because I didn't I was kind of trying to
Speaker 2: disprove her. I was trying to come up with ways
Speaker 2: because I don't believe in this stuff. This should not happen, right,
Speaker 2: There's got to be a way to disprove this. There wasn't.
Speaker 2: So I asked her, what did you do? How did
Speaker 2: you do that? She said, she passed her projected from
Speaker 2: her body. She found me where I was at. She
Speaker 2: put past my aura with her energy to see inside.
Speaker 2: That's where the vibration came from. And I can't disprove this.
Speaker 2: And then she's right about what she said. So and
Speaker 2: since then she's actually helped us with a few things.
Speaker 2: And she's the real deal. Man. This is this White
Speaker 2: Witch is real. She has abilities that I cannot explain.
Speaker 2: And I've met a lot of clacking mediums. None of
Speaker 2: them could tell me anything relevant to me. They were
Speaker 2: all bunch of bullshit. Basically, Nick, we got to get
Speaker 2: her on the show.
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, you have to get her on the show.
Speaker 1: I already found her on Instagram.
Speaker 2: It was good, I'm telling you, man, I was thoroughly impressed.
Speaker 2: My girlfriend, who's even more skeptic than me, believe her.
Speaker 5: She's proved it to her, which Wow, a friend.
Speaker 4: I mean she.
Speaker 5: Follows her what's that?
Speaker 3: And somebody who's been on the show that's coming back
Speaker 3: on actually follows her too, I noticed, So it's interesting.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she's a real deal, man, She's she's a real deal.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry interrupted you.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say this is like two big whammies
Speaker 4: because we have, you know, kind of an obsession with
Speaker 4: the Society, the Cincinnati and Society members were part of
Speaker 4: the witch burning crew, So there's a big crossover between like,
Speaker 4: you know, one of these ancient societies and what they
Speaker 4: were doing back at the sixteen hundreds. Because you know,
Speaker 4: Joseph Smith's grandfather or great grandfather was one of the
Speaker 4: uh witch burners.
Speaker 5: No way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm familiar with him, his golden tablets.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that he's looking at him.
Speaker 4: Getting that information would be great because you know she's
Speaker 4: a lineage. Yes, that's that's a lot of history that
Speaker 4: I'd like to go over. Absolutely.
Speaker 5: As a matter of fact, we're making a trip out
Speaker 5: to Salem.
Speaker 2: Uh and she has me doing a a she says
Speaker 2: a favor for her when we're out there. I'm sure
Speaker 2: has something to do with her her ancestor. But uh,
Speaker 2: we're actually looking very forward to doing this. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I dude, I never would have believed any of this
Speaker 2: had not had that did not happen to me directly,
Speaker 2: I would not be believing any of this. She's the
Speaker 2: real thing. There's so much out there that's real that
Speaker 2: I'm starting to learn that is changing my mind. It's
Speaker 2: I love it. I love this stuff. Man, can't get
Speaker 2: enough of it. We gotta get this lady on the show. Yes,
Speaker 2: definitely tell her, tell her.
Speaker 3: I said, yes, hit her up, hit her up, and
Speaker 3: be like, yo, they called rejects are gonna hit you up.
Speaker 1: You gotta go on.
Speaker 4: We did We did a remote viewing game show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we did that like covered the Gateway Project kind
Speaker 3: of like at the same time.
Speaker 5: Almost that's kind of cool, man.
Speaker 1: It was fun. It was fun and ship actually wow,
Speaker 1: and you know what.
Speaker 4: Like the way we did it, got a couple of
Speaker 4: good heads.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we did.
Speaker 3: Actually, there was one that I actually drew really well,
Speaker 3: but it wasn't for the right one.
Speaker 1: But like, it's really weird.
Speaker 3: It was like I think like the second one looked
Speaker 3: like the first one almost like great. It was like, wow,
Speaker 3: that's weird. It's hard to explain, but yeah, I love it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: and he got some good stuff on it too. It
Speaker 3: was pretty impressive. And we had people on the chat
Speaker 3: playing too. It was fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, people at home can play. Yeah, it's so simple.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we should start. We should try to. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: gotta do that again.
Speaker 3: You gotta maybe get into a carl On or something
Speaker 3: that was actually like fun and interactive. I know this
Speaker 3: kind of is almost a paranormal story already, but is
Speaker 3: there anything you know it have to take too long
Speaker 3: if you don't want is you have like another paranormal
Speaker 3: experience maybe of your own that you could talk about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a there's something that happened to me back
Speaker 2: at twenty fourteen. Actually there's two things in the same day.
Speaker 2: One was it's kind of hard for me to talk
Speaker 2: about this. One is I think I died in twenty
Speaker 2: fourteen in a fire. I'm pretty sure I died in
Speaker 2: it twenty fourteen, and I've I've been trying to understand
Speaker 2: what this is all about, and I've found something called
Speaker 2: quantum immortality that kind of explains it. But I have
Speaker 2: memories of being asleep at four ish in the afternoon
Speaker 2: on a Sunday in October on twenty fourteen, where a
Speaker 2: fire broke out above my apartment, the apartment above mine.
Speaker 2: And I also know that I didn't take a nap.
Speaker 2: I was awake watching TV with my dog Charlie. And
Speaker 2: you know, some guy saved my life. He actually came.
Speaker 2: He was up the street working on an air condition
Speaker 2: on top of a convenience store. He saw the smoke
Speaker 2: and he ran down, got in his truck, drove all
Speaker 2: the way down and started knocking on all the doors,
Speaker 2: and it went for him. I for sure would have
Speaker 2: died because of the fire department said, if you were
Speaker 2: in there for ten more minutes, he would have died
Speaker 2: from smoke in elation. It's like shit, because I did
Speaker 2: smell smoke, but I thought it was someone barbecuing. Man,
Speaker 2: it's Texas, bro That's all they do on Sunday is barbecue.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: But I also remember being asleep, and there's a lot
Speaker 5: of shit.
Speaker 2: You know. I'm not going to go into too much
Speaker 2: of detail on that, but I think that that was
Speaker 2: one of the because I have a theory that you
Speaker 2: die every second you're alive in an alternate universe in
Speaker 2: an alternate reality.
Speaker 5: So like when you were born, dead, next second after that.
Speaker 2: Dead, all the way up till whatever year you actually
Speaker 2: lived the longest, there's a moment where you're you'll die
Speaker 2: in an alternate reality. So very bizarre. But then later
Speaker 2: that night I didn't have a place to stay. My
Speaker 2: sister invites me to her house, her guest bedroom.
Speaker 5: I sleep there. It's like two or three.
Speaker 4: In the morning.
Speaker 5: I'm on my right side.
Speaker 2: My old dog's with me, and then I feel a
Speaker 2: hand grab and it's like shaking me, and I think
Speaker 2: it's her. I'm like, man, is there another fire? What
Speaker 2: the hell's going on? And it's like a little hand
Speaker 2: and she's a small she's like five feet and she's
Speaker 2: like so I look up and I expect to see her,
Speaker 2: but there's no one there. And I can still feel this,
Speaker 2: and I was awake, completely awake, man. I was like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck is this? And I look in the
Speaker 2: door is locked and closed, and my dog's awake and
Speaker 2: she's aware, but she's not barking, which is very bizarre
Speaker 2: to me. And then I hear shuffling in front of
Speaker 2: the bed or I'm facing, and it walks around behind
Speaker 2: me on the other side of the bed, and that's
Speaker 2: when I hear a little kid's giggle, and that freaked
Speaker 2: the shit out of me. Man, my instinct was to
Speaker 2: cover myself with a blanket. That was the first thing
Speaker 2: I did. But then I started hearing it walk back
Speaker 2: to the front facing me again. I could hear its footsteps,
Speaker 2: and I was like, what the fuck? Always wanted to
Speaker 2: see a ghosts. That's one of my bucket list items.
Speaker 2: So I lifted it and I looked, but I didn't
Speaker 2: see anything. And then I started hearing it tap the
Speaker 2: wall over and over again three times. Had a hard
Speaker 2: time going back to sleep after that shit. Eventually I did,
Speaker 2: because it was like a day of fire and all
Speaker 2: this bullshit. Woke up the next morning and asked my
Speaker 2: sister and she says, oh, so you experienced it. I
Speaker 2: was like, motherfucker, why didn't you tell me something's going on?
Speaker 2: Because mom and dad were here they had a similar
Speaker 2: experience I have. I used that room for crafts and stuff,
Speaker 2: and stuff falls off the shelf. I'll put it back
Speaker 2: and falls back off the shelf. And then her son,
Speaker 2: my nephew, he's like three or fourth time, has a
Speaker 2: like a little what do you call it? Imaginary?
Speaker 5: Friend?
Speaker 2: He called Coco right, and she was telling me about this,
Speaker 2: and she said, I thought it was just an imagine.
Speaker 2: I thought it was normal until it started to scare him.
Speaker 2: He would terrify him. He would run out of the
Speaker 2: room screaming that Coco was scaring him, and so I
Speaker 2: think there was some sort of child. Then he's stuck
Speaker 2: in that house. They didn't live there anymore, they moved out,
Speaker 2: thank god. But crazy was That was the first time
Speaker 2: I ever experienced anything. Like I said before, that didn't
Speaker 2: believe in that stuff, ghosts, whatever, man. But that eventually
Speaker 2: led me to down the rabbit hole. And that's where
Speaker 2: we are today.
Speaker 1: Oh sounds approach you, jeez, look at that. Thank you man.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, but yeah, that was a terrifying experience.
Speaker 2: I definitely do want to go back to that house.
Speaker 2: So I want to now. I want to investigate that house.
Speaker 2: I want to go and ask the people that live
Speaker 2: there if I can just spend the night when you're
Speaker 2: not there. I want to see what's going on. I
Speaker 2: want to see if I could talk to this kid
Speaker 2: they see if he's still there. I wonder if there's
Speaker 2: a way to like help them cross over or something.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe that's what they need, you know, maybe he
Speaker 2: doesn't know how to do that.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Hopefully, hopefully I'm gonna figure out a way to get
Speaker 2: to that place. I know the owner of that house,
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna figure out a certain way. Maybe once
Speaker 2: they're black phone with you, a black belt, a black phone,
Speaker 2: a black phone. Absolutely, man, I'm gonna bring all sorts
Speaker 2: of equipment if I can. I'm gonna wait for whoever
Speaker 2: is renting that place to leave, and I think me
Speaker 2: and my sister are going to do an investigation and
Speaker 2: we're going to have all sorts of equipment. I want
Speaker 2: to see if I can make contact with this thing,
Speaker 2: because I have not been able to. It won't leave
Speaker 2: my mind, you know what I mean. It's I can
Speaker 2: still hear it laughing. It's creepy, man, I think to me,
Speaker 2: having that experience, any childlike video I find, to me,
Speaker 2: is infinitely more creepy than you know, just a regular ghost.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: Look at the cat black eyed children. Man, I love
Speaker 2: those black eyed children. I have a theory they are
Speaker 2: hybrid aliens. That's my theory.
Speaker 4: Yeah, appear and disappear though like there's a Thumberrell nature
Speaker 4: to them, like there's a ship that they go to.
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know. They that's how they get away.
Speaker 2: You know, they want to get in, They want to
Speaker 2: get into your house. They want to get into wherever
Speaker 2: you're at to take you. Maybe they've actually succeeded and
Speaker 2: those people are gone, who knows.
Speaker 5: I love that lore.
Speaker 2: It started here in Texas as a matter of fact,
Speaker 2: and very very strange. The thing is, I haven't heard
Speaker 2: any recent stories of the Black Eye kids, have you, guys?
Speaker 5: I'm not.
Speaker 2: I would love to hear another one or see there's
Speaker 2: another one out there. But maybe they're so good now
Speaker 2: that you won't hear a story because those people are gone.
Speaker 4: It seems like they're associated with bad weather, is that right,
Speaker 4: either really foggy or you know, really snowy, basically in
Speaker 4: times where little children should not be out at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard that story. Yes, I heard that one.
Speaker 2: I think I was asked to do a show. I
Speaker 2: wish I could remember the show, but I did recite
Speaker 2: a few stories, and that was one of them. The
Speaker 2: one in the in Denver or someplace where it was
Speaker 2: super cold and the kid has barefoot outside trying to
Speaker 2: get in so bizarre.
Speaker 4: It's hard to say no. But at the same time,
Speaker 4: it's like they've got black eyes. There couldn't be anything.
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, the hell out of here. Not even man,
Speaker 2: I'm not anyone.
Speaker 5: Sorry.
Speaker 3: Too many sorry, too many stories about you people. None
Speaker 3: of them turned out good. No, no, exactly, I'm not no,
Speaker 3: not happening.
Speaker 4: We have such a survivor bias when it comes to
Speaker 4: the occult too. People are like, ghosts can't hurt you. Well,
Speaker 4: the ones that they did hurt aren't able to talk anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder, like you've heard of the there's a
Speaker 2: whole lot of stories out there of people being attacked,
Speaker 2: like they're scratched or choked.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: I wonder those people like say that I'm never doing
Speaker 2: that shit again, and they're done with that stuff, you know,
Speaker 2: because they've been attacked. Or is there like no quick
Speaker 2: type of thing where I'm gonna go do it again?
Speaker 2: You know, I'm curious.
Speaker 4: I think that's why ghost houses go up in the
Speaker 4: market so quick, you know, I mean, happens to one person,
Speaker 4: they're out.
Speaker 5: Of there, you know, Yeah, oh that can be held liable. Well,
Speaker 5: how can you do that? Right, how can you hold
Speaker 5: some un liable that's not alive? Interesting?
Speaker 4: Man, I wonder ghost of shirts.
Speaker 5: I'm sure they'll find a way.
Speaker 3: So speaking of paranormal before I wrap it up, just
Speaker 3: to let people know too. This weekend in Arkansas, uh
Speaker 3: little Rock there is a paranormal events two days and
Speaker 3: there'll be speakers there and the occult Rejects will have
Speaker 3: a boot there. It's pretty Yeah, it's pretty fucking big,
Speaker 3: like they actually have like food trucks outside and boots outside.
Speaker 1: I looked it up on the internet. I don't know
Speaker 1: why I didn't.
Speaker 3: Think about doing this until like yesterday, but I actually
Speaker 3: like looked it up to see like prior events, and
Speaker 3: I was like, that's a fuck ton of people.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 5: I was just like, my whole how many people? How
Speaker 5: many people?
Speaker 1: I would say the's probably a few hundred.
Speaker 3: I mean I was like, that looks like cosmic summit
Speaker 3: basically just like spread out within like a building.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was pretty nice. Yeah, that's what I was like. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was just like a first kid out there.
Speaker 3: At first, I was just like I'd probably just be
Speaker 3: standing there and fucking nothing going on. And then when
Speaker 3: I saw that, I was like, oh, this is the
Speaker 3: complete opposite. I was like, there's a lot of people,
Speaker 3: and I gotta.
Speaker 1: Like a fuck.
Speaker 2: They wanted me to try and you're gonna find a
Speaker 2: lot of guests for your show.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, for no, that I'm excited for. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna ask if any people will let me
Speaker 3: film them while they're there already and that's already a
Speaker 3: fucking show. But like they wanted me to try to
Speaker 3: live stream or at least podcast from there, which I
Speaker 3: mean I would assume would be considering live streaming. And
Speaker 3: it's just like, you know, I don't know how well
Speaker 3: that will go with one person, but I'm gonna try.
Speaker 1: It's just you know, with that many people. Yeah, just
Speaker 1: sit down and tell me something.
Speaker 5: I'm pretty close, man. I mean when is this happening?
Speaker 5: He said this weekend?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a little rock rocket. So yeah, it's a museum.
Speaker 1: It's two flows and it's like two days.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, good luck, man.
Speaker 5: I hope you have a great show out there.
Speaker 1: It should be fun, should be an experience for sure.
Speaker 1: Definitely meet a lot of people.
Speaker 3: One thing I noticed over there, Well, there's actually people
Speaker 3: that like I just gonna keep it real there's like
Speaker 3: people that like I know, other people are like, oh
Speaker 3: I've heard of that person. You know, some like decent names,
Speaker 3: but totally different line up than things that.
Speaker 1: I've been seeing in certain areas. By me.
Speaker 3: You almost see like a lot of the same names
Speaker 3: that I've complained it, which is like almost like certain
Speaker 3: like repeaters and over there.
Speaker 1: I'm all new for me. So that's pretty cool.
Speaker 5: That's awesome, man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely that's what that's in the that's in
Speaker 2: the future. I definitely want to hit up all these
Speaker 2: places they have.
Speaker 3: I mean, uh, I'll even say when I went to
Speaker 3: Charlie's uh just recently, Charles beyondbelieve it was a decent size.
Speaker 1: I mean I couldn't tell.
Speaker 3: You how many people were that, but I mean it's
Speaker 3: definitely I mean they definitely had the seats.
Speaker 1: Like there was people there.
Speaker 3: Uh but I mean, I'll be totally honest with there
Speaker 3: was so many boots in the boots section.
Speaker 1: I mean, I had a blessed just hanging out back there,
Speaker 1: like bouncing around to talking to other people. Yeah. Man,
Speaker 1: I mean there was people.
Speaker 5: It's great.
Speaker 3: They were like there's a lot of people even like
Speaker 3: witches or like ladies that there's a dude with sacred geometry.
Speaker 1: I got him coming on the show. There was a
Speaker 1: chick that did like that.
Speaker 3: Did cards and like singing bowls, like you had those big, gigantic,
Speaker 3: fucking white ones. It's like she used it the whole
Speaker 3: fucking room herd, and everybody turned around every time she Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: but like so there was like people there there even
Speaker 3: like you know, very borderline the occult. So like I
Speaker 3: had a couple of like I guess familiars around me
Speaker 3: and the para. For some reason, the paranormal people always
Speaker 3: take to me well at these things, so I had
Speaker 3: fun with them. They had paranormal, Oh you're next to
Speaker 3: me that like have a pretty decent show, and they
Speaker 3: were like, yo, we just went to like a police
Speaker 3: that Jack Parson has, you know, we should come on
Speaker 3: your show.
Speaker 1: And I was like, sounds perfect, thank you. Paranormal and
Speaker 1: the occult, Oh that's perfect. Yeah. Jack Parsons was in.
Speaker 3: And there, yeah of course, but marckets, Yeah, it was
Speaker 3: definitely definitely interesting. Yeah, so yeah I got that for
Speaker 3: people already got totally off of it. But yeah, this
Speaker 3: weekend whatever that is. Twenty fifth, twenty six and Little Rock, Arkansas. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Paranormal event. Check it out.
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Speaker 1: wanted to say before we wrap it up?
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Speaker 3: And uh yeah, if anybody's in Arkansas, a little rock Orkansas,
Speaker 3: go check it out.
Speaker 1: We'll be there.
Speaker 3: I think it's like ten bucks a day two so
Speaker 3: oh oh, and you can't you can't forget about this one.
Speaker 1: This is I can't.
Speaker 3: Two o'clock on Saturday, there's Bigfoot callings contest. I gotta
Speaker 3: get this ship on fucking tape.
Speaker 4: I get that Bigfoot Manten call out.
Speaker 3: Yes, so that's where ten bucks in my opinion, just
Speaker 3: to come down and see that on Saturday. So come
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Speaker 3: And until the next everybody be well later