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Speaker 1: the show. All right, Pickfoot Society. You've got the privilege
Speaker 1: of talking to Patrick today. Patrick's an individual that reached
Speaker 1: out to the show after he had heard episode five
Speaker 1: sixty six with Jason who had an interesting encounter out
Speaker 1: there in Idaho, and Patrick is pretty familiar with that
Speaker 1: area that was referred to in that episode. Is I
Speaker 1: got to reach out and share what I've experienced in
Speaker 1: that same area. So Patrick, welcome to the show. How's
Speaker 1: it going, man, It's going pretty good. Thanks for having
Speaker 1: me absolutely. Well, you know, I'm excited to hear what
Speaker 1: you have to share. I always love it when there's
Speaker 1: a person that reaches out to me and they're like,
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, that that one episode you had is
Speaker 1: pretty dead on, because I can I can tell you
Speaker 1: some stuff too about the same area. So you know,
Speaker 1: I'm going to go ahead and hand things right over
Speaker 1: to you, Patrick, and you're You're welcome to you know,
Speaker 1: take us back to what we need to know. And
Speaker 1: when you started to experience some things out there.
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah. I mean, I'm Patrick, I'm thirty four. I've
Speaker 2: lived here in Idaho in the Quarterline area for my
Speaker 2: entire life, and I've spent all of that going hunting
Speaker 2: and fishing and spending all sorts of time in the
Speaker 2: outdoors like hiking and all that stuff. So I've spent
Speaker 2: plenty of time outside doing stuff, and I never really
Speaker 2: experienced anything that always stood out to me as unexplainable,
Speaker 2: like is weird stuff that has happened? But I've always
Speaker 2: just sort of chocked it up as all, it's probably
Speaker 2: this or probably that. But I've always been a believer
Speaker 2: and that bigfoot or a sasquatch er, there's something out there,
Speaker 2: And it's totally possible that there's something out there that
Speaker 2: we just don't know about, because we're learning about new
Speaker 2: stuff all the time, and to think that we know
Speaker 2: everything about everything is kind of a little arrogant. So
Speaker 2: I always love the idea that there's stuff that we
Speaker 2: don't know about. And I haven't had anything in particular
Speaker 2: happen that made me really think about this being in
Speaker 2: my area until July of last year when I was
Speaker 2: up camping. And every every year, it's it's a tradition
Speaker 2: my my mom and I my entire life. We've we've
Speaker 2: always made it a tradition for two weeks in July,
Speaker 2: over like Fourth of July weekend, we'd go up camping
Speaker 2: and and we we live like homeless people for two weeks,
Speaker 2: but it's just to get away from the city, the lights,
Speaker 2: the sounds, the fast move and everything, and it's just
Speaker 2: sort of our our reset every year. And we've always
Speaker 2: taken a family vacation. It used to be my mom
Speaker 2: and my dad and myself and my brother, but my
Speaker 2: dad since passed a couple of years ago, and so
Speaker 2: we just sort of want to continue on the tradition
Speaker 2: and in all of our time up there, we've experienced
Speaker 2: had things, but we've always made up an explanation for it.
Speaker 2: But because we've never really well, I'm a very like
Speaker 2: analytical kind of person, and so I always try to
Speaker 2: just come up with the forty things it would be
Speaker 2: before it's it's Sasquatch, and I always just sort of
Speaker 2: land on something even though I don't really know what
Speaker 2: I'm talking about, but I guess I'll get into what
Speaker 2: actually happened this past year. So we were we were
Speaker 2: up camping and referring to it, and we camp in
Speaker 2: the exact spot that Jason from episode five sixty six
Speaker 2: was talking about. And I so I saw the thumbnail
Speaker 2: for that episode and it said Standpoint, Idaho, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: we we camped there, so I really wanted to listen
Speaker 2: to that episode and hearing him describe like where he
Speaker 2: was at, I'm like, that's our camp site that we
Speaker 2: always camp in. And then after our experience, I was like, Wow,
Speaker 2: so people are experiencing things right where we've been for
Speaker 2: my entire life, So maybe the stuff we've been experiencing
Speaker 2: isn't a moose or a bear or anything like that.
Speaker 2: So my mother and I tried to go up and
Speaker 2: get that spot that he was talking about, but for
Speaker 2: some reason, this year, the woods were absolutely packed full
Speaker 2: of campers and it was a really good year for huckleberry,
Speaker 2: so I would imagine a lot of huckleberry pickers were
Speaker 2: out there. So we were sort of forced to go
Speaker 2: up the mountain another couple of miles and we found
Speaker 2: another campsite up on a ridge. And this campsite doesn't
Speaker 2: get camped in that often because it's way up off
Speaker 2: the river. It's on the opposite side of the mountain
Speaker 2: road that goes there's only one road that goes up
Speaker 2: that mountain on that river, and most of the campsites
Speaker 2: are right on the river, but this one is one
Speaker 2: of those that's not, and so it's always open. But
Speaker 2: it was sort of our last resort and we camped
Speaker 2: there and it was actually a really nice spot. It's
Speaker 2: right on a ridge, like big old ridge coming straight down,
Speaker 2: goes all the way down to the river, and there's
Speaker 2: an abundance of bear grass on this ridge, so I
Speaker 2: called it Beargrass Ridge. And we we set up camp.
Speaker 2: We had a couple of tents and it's it's probably
Speaker 2: I don't know, probably one hundred feet by one hundred
Speaker 2: feet campground like, it's big, it's open, and it's not
Speaker 2: next to anybody, which was really nice because the campsite
Speaker 2: that Jason talked about is right next to a lot
Speaker 2: of people. It's one campsite, and that a little road
Speaker 2: that goes down to another campsite, another little road that
Speaker 2: goes down to another one. Not this one. This one's
Speaker 2: all by itself on this ridge. And so we thought,
Speaker 2: you know what, we maybe we won this time. But
Speaker 2: we were there for a couple of nights and then
Speaker 2: my aunt and her fiance decided to join us for
Speaker 2: about a week, which doesn't usually happen. It was nice to,
Speaker 2: you know, have the campsite be a little bit more
Speaker 2: full than just my mom and myself, and so it
Speaker 2: was probably we get up there on a Thursday, so
Speaker 2: it's probably about it, I would say a Tuesday night
Speaker 2: that all of this happened. We were sitting by the
Speaker 2: fire as as most people do, and my aunt and
Speaker 2: her fiance decide to call it and I probably around
Speaker 2: let's say ten or eleven o'clock, the temperature drops like
Speaker 2: crazy out there. It's ninety during the day, and then
Speaker 2: it drops down to probably forty five or fifty at night,
Speaker 2: and after being so hot, turning to that cold, it
Speaker 2: makes you want to go inside and bundle up pretty
Speaker 2: pretty quick. So they got done with the fire and
Speaker 2: they went straight to bed and they sleep in one
Speaker 2: of those campers that goes up on top of the truck.
Speaker 2: And my mother and I are just sitting in a tent,
Speaker 2: and we were in a little tent where we have
Speaker 2: a little card table set up and we're playing card
Speaker 2: games and stuff. And you know, we don't really have
Speaker 2: a time that we go to bed, Like there's times
Speaker 2: that week sit there and play games until the sun
Speaker 2: came up. And that was one of those nights where
Speaker 2: it was probably one thirty or two in the morning,
Speaker 2: and we're just playing a card game and we have
Speaker 2: some lights in the tent so that we can see everything.
Speaker 2: The lights are powered by a generator, and we have
Speaker 2: the generator we have set up probably about fifty feet away.
Speaker 2: We have put it just outside camp so that it's
Speaker 2: not making too much noise for my aunt and her
Speaker 2: fiance to sleep and stuff like that. But it is
Speaker 2: our generatory. It's it's a cheap little thing, you know,
Speaker 2: It's not quiet, so it rattles and it makes up
Speaker 2: a pretty loud ruckus. And I think that's a fairly
Speaker 2: important thing to note, is this thing is not quiet,
Speaker 2: and we we're not necessarily quiet either. We're laughing, we're hollering,
Speaker 2: we're you know, we're we're having a great time, and
Speaker 2: you know, we're not being rowdy, but but we're not
Speaker 2: being quiet either. And so about one thirty, we're just
Speaker 2: playing cards and all of a sudden, from it. It
Speaker 2: was behind my my mother, and it was sort of
Speaker 2: off to We're sitting across the table from each other,
Speaker 2: and it was slightly off to my right that we
Speaker 2: hear this. I don't want to see it. It was blood curdling,
Speaker 2: but it almost sounded like it was the loudest scream
Speaker 2: I've ever heard in my life. It stopped us both
Speaker 2: in our in our tracks for sure. And what it
Speaker 2: sounded like, the only way I could describe it is
Speaker 2: it sounded like a woman like running down a hill
Speaker 2: into a war cry, running down a hill. And it
Speaker 2: was like a kind of I don't know how to
Speaker 2: describe it, but it was longer than that. It was.
Speaker 2: It's definitely sustained. It was so loud. It could have
Speaker 2: been fifty feet away, it could have been right next
Speaker 2: to our tent, but it certainly wasn't more than one
Speaker 2: hundred feet away, and it was so loud. And the
Speaker 2: crazy thing is my mother and I both got to
Speaker 2: experience this, and I am thrilled because nobody would think
Speaker 2: anything if it was just me that heard this, and
Speaker 2: it was it was one of those things. We immediately
Speaker 2: were like, what the heck was that? Or we didn't
Speaker 2: say heck, but you know, we need some more colorful language.
Speaker 2: But we're like, what is that? And I immediately go
Speaker 2: and grab my pistol, like that's going to do anything.
Speaker 2: But this sounded like a very large person, Like imagine
Speaker 2: that it's a woman, but like pitch it down and
Speaker 2: make it where it sounds a lot bigger than a person.
Speaker 2: And being that I'm super analytical, I'm immediately trying to
Speaker 2: figure out what this could be. I'm going through all
Speaker 2: the animals that we have, and we have an abundance
Speaker 2: of animals in North Idaho that can make odd screams
Speaker 2: and odd noises anywhere from an elk to a bobcat,
Speaker 2: bobcat to an owl, coyotes, they all make some noises,
Speaker 2: but there was a lung capacity on this that I mean, you.
Speaker 3: Would expect from from a person, but it sounded so
Speaker 3: much bigger, and I immediately got the feeling that it
Speaker 3: was really angry at us.
Speaker 2: Like it was like telling us to shut up, like
Speaker 2: an angry neighbor yelling you to turn your music. And
Speaker 2: my mother, on the other hand, talking to her afterwards,
Speaker 2: got a different feeling from this scream. She felt that
Speaker 2: it was sort of a like, hey, do you mind,
Speaker 2: like just sort of letting us know that it was there,
Speaker 2: And I did not feel that way. I felt like
Speaker 2: it was very upset. And so we're sitting there and
Speaker 2: we grab our flashlights and we have a couple of
Speaker 2: pretty high powered flashlights, like six thousand to nine thousand
Speaker 2: lumin flashlights, and we ends up all the windows in
Speaker 2: our tent to like shine out there and look around,
Speaker 2: because you know, I'm expecting this thing to come barreling
Speaker 2: into our camp and you know, attack the tent or
Speaker 2: start wreaking havoc. Like this thing sounded like it was
Speaker 2: about raying, it wanted to like kill us. And we're
Speaker 2: shining the lights around and I've got my big flashlight
Speaker 2: in one hand and my gun in the other, like
Speaker 2: it's going to do something. But there was nothing. There
Speaker 2: was no eye shine. We never heard footprints or footsteps,
Speaker 2: we never heard any rustling in the trees. Nothing. It
Speaker 2: was just a single scream and then nothing. And so
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there just racking my brain. I can't wrap
Speaker 2: my head around it, and I'm trying not to freak
Speaker 2: my mom out. She's already, you know, having a small
Speaker 2: moment to herself of I don't know what that was,
Speaker 2: but I don't feel right anymore. And the whole time
Speaker 2: we're all sitting there trying to think about things, I'm
Speaker 2: wondering how my aunt and her fiance didn't hear anything,
Speaker 2: because it also came from about fifty feet away from
Speaker 2: their truck, but they were dead asleep. They never heard
Speaker 2: a thing. And that's another thing that I'm so glad
Speaker 2: that my mother was there to experience this with me,
Speaker 2: because people would question the fact that, oh, there's two
Speaker 2: other people in camp and they didn't hear anything. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know how they didn't wake up, but they
Speaker 2: were zonked out apparently. But yeah, So that was that experience,
Speaker 2: and that is the only experience in the woods that
Speaker 2: I've never been able to explain away as something, but
Speaker 2: having that experience sort of changes the context around some
Speaker 2: other things that have happened up there, and going back
Speaker 2: and thinking about stuff, like maybe stuff has been happening
Speaker 2: my entire life up there. But we've always been camped
Speaker 2: next to the river up until this point. So the
Speaker 2: river is a it's a really shallow river, so it runs,
Speaker 2: it's pretty loud. Being camped right next to the river,
Speaker 2: it drowns out a lot of sounds. But when I
Speaker 2: was younger, when it was my mom, my dad, and myself,
Speaker 2: we would always hear rocks and stuff moving in the river.
Speaker 2: And my dad was always like, oh, yeah, just you know,
Speaker 2: the current of the river is just moving rocks. But
Speaker 2: it was like boulders that were being moved, and you
Speaker 2: could hear them move like it wasn't just like shifting,
Speaker 2: it was I don't know, it sounded like they were
Speaker 2: being tossed in, but without the splash, like just really
Speaker 2: loud like clunks, like rocks hitting rocks. And every once
Speaker 2: in a while I would think that I would hear
Speaker 2: talking or voices coming from near the river. But I've
Speaker 2: always explained that is the river can make all sorts
Speaker 2: of weird noises, the way that the sound can come
Speaker 2: up and hit you. And I've heard people talk about
Speaker 2: how it can sound like there's talking coming from the river.
Speaker 2: So I'm just always explained it away, but assuming that
Speaker 2: there is something out there, something large that sounds kind
Speaker 2: of like a human, but bigger than a human. And
Speaker 2: I've experienced these weird sounds that sound kind of human,
Speaker 2: but I could never make out the voices or anything
Speaker 2: like maybe that's something I explained it away before, but
Speaker 2: maybe that's something. And there was another time we were
Speaker 2: camped in the same area that Jason was talking about,
Speaker 2: just one camp side over and it was I called
Speaker 2: the Sandpit where we had a big flood a few
Speaker 2: years ago and it washed up a lot of sand
Speaker 2: into this campsite, so it's kind of like you're camping
Speaker 2: on a beach. But we were getting ready to leave
Speaker 2: after our two weeks stay one time, and there was
Speaker 2: no wind. It was the most still day I think
Speaker 2: we experienced uf there not even a breeze, and we're
Speaker 2: getting ready to leave and a mother and her like
Speaker 2: two or three kids came in and wanted to go
Speaker 2: swimming down to the river and asked if it was
Speaker 2: okay if they did that. While we packed up and left,
Speaker 2: and we were just chit chatting, making small talk, and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I hear the loudest cracking of
Speaker 2: a tree going down, just out of site from camp,
Speaker 2: but down by the river, and I see the top
Speaker 2: of a very large asp and start to go down,
Speaker 2: and I was like, that is weird because there's no wind,
Speaker 2: no breeze, and I can tell just by looking at
Speaker 2: the top of this tree it's a pretty healthy tree.
Speaker 2: And so after our heartbeats relaxed a little bit, I
Speaker 2: decided to go and look at what happened and what
Speaker 2: made this aspen go down. And I go over and
Speaker 2: I look at this tree and it's not uprooted, but
Speaker 2: it's split at the base like it was. I mean,
Speaker 2: I know that this can happen, but it just it
Speaker 2: seemed so weird that they would have had to have
Speaker 2: been a force that had pushed this tree over just
Speaker 2: the way that had a diagonal split at the base,
Speaker 2: for the crack might have already been there. But there's
Speaker 2: no way that this tree fell over without something having
Speaker 2: pushed it. This was a large tree. This was the
Speaker 2: biggest aspen in the entire area, and so I initially
Speaker 2: explained it away as there was probably a bear or
Speaker 2: maybe maybe a moose or something that pushed against it,
Speaker 2: like who knows, But considering what we heard this past year,
Speaker 2: maybe it wasn't. And then again this past year, I
Speaker 2: guess I'm all over the place. But going back to
Speaker 2: what happened this past year, as a couple of days
Speaker 2: after this scream happened, I'm getting this. I have this
Speaker 2: terrible feeling up there that we're being watched. I just
Speaker 2: have this this not in my stomach. I was not
Speaker 2: relaxed for or probably five days after this this happened.
Speaker 2: I don't want to venture more than one hundred feet
Speaker 2: away from camp, but I don't feel good about anything.
Speaker 2: I'm ready to pack it in. But there's three other
Speaker 2: people vacationing with me that really don't seem to feel
Speaker 2: the same way that I do about this. Like my
Speaker 2: mother chocked it up as well, I was a weird,
Speaker 2: creepy experience, and my aunt and her fiance were just
Speaker 2: more you know, they didn't experience anything, so they didn't care.
Speaker 2: But like two days after this happened. I decided to venture, well,
Speaker 2: probably a couple hundred feet away from camp, up on
Speaker 2: the little hill that the camp site is nestled up to,
Speaker 2: going up the ridge a little bit. And the way
Speaker 2: this ridge is set up is we're a little bit
Speaker 2: of a plateau and then the ridge drops down, probably
Speaker 2: three hundred feet away from camp on either side. And
Speaker 2: I'm just sort of walking up on the ridge a
Speaker 2: little bit and I hear this sounds like a truck
Speaker 2: and trailer coming down the mountain on the road that's
Speaker 2: off to our right. And I was like, okay, like
Speaker 2: you know, probably people will take their clouds up there
Speaker 2: all the time, but it seemed kind of loud for
Speaker 2: a truck and trailer. It sounded further away, but it
Speaker 2: sounded louder than it should be. And when I say
Speaker 2: it sounds like a truck and trailer, when you hear
Speaker 2: a trailer, you can hear like the metal clanking and
Speaker 2: banging a little bit. That's what I thought I heard.
Speaker 2: And then as I'm listening to it getting louder and louder,
Speaker 2: I noticed that it's not necessarily following the path of
Speaker 2: the road. It's actually coming up the ridge at me,
Speaker 2: and I'm sitting there just intently listening to this to
Speaker 2: make sure that I'm hearing what I'm hearing. And as
Speaker 2: soon as I confirm in my head that oh, this
Speaker 2: isn't following the road, this can't be a truck and trailer.
Speaker 2: But what sounds like the metal clanking and banging turns
Speaker 2: into really heavy, labored breaths, like really deep like like that.
Speaker 2: And I know that moose can do that, and bear
Speaker 2: and stuff like that if they're spooked and trying to
Speaker 2: tear up a ridge can be like that. But I
Speaker 2: immediately had this feeling. And it's only been a day
Speaker 2: and half for two days since that crazy loud scream,
Speaker 2: So that's sitting in the back of my head too,
Speaker 2: to where I'm like, Okay, if I don't move right now,
Speaker 2: something bad is going to happen to me, because it
Speaker 2: sounds like it's coming straight at me, but I can't
Speaker 2: see anything, and I'm sitting there and I said, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna back up, So I back up about
Speaker 2: forty feet and I see my my mother right behind me,
Speaker 2: just leisurely picking huckleberries, and I just turned. I was
Speaker 2: like hey, I was like, we probably should go back
Speaker 2: to camp. I was like, I don't know what that is,
Speaker 2: and she's like what. I was like, do you hear
Speaker 2: that thing going up the ridge right in front of us?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: And she's like no, We like, how do you not
Speaker 2: hear this? It was so loud, and she's like, I
Speaker 2: don't know what you're talking about. And so while that
Speaker 2: could be a moose or a bear or some other
Speaker 2: or an elk, in the context of what had just
Speaker 2: happened up there, that freaked me out pretty good. And
Speaker 2: I guess that was sort of the last of the
Speaker 2: big things that we experienced up there. A couple days
Speaker 2: after that, it was probably the day before we were
Speaker 2: going to leave, we saw something big and black, I
Speaker 2: wouldn't say really big, probably the size of a small
Speaker 2: black bear or a large raccoon or something fall out
Speaker 2: of a tree. It was up near the top of
Speaker 2: a tree, probably one hundred and fifty feet away from camp.
Speaker 2: You ever take, and we hear a twig snap from
Speaker 2: that direction. We turn and we just see the last
Speaker 2: second something black like falling down from the tree out
Speaker 2: of our light of sight. So, like a couple of
Speaker 2: really smart people, we went to go investigate with a
Speaker 2: fly swatter and a pistol, and we we didn't see anything.
Speaker 2: There was no signs of anything having hit the ground
Speaker 2: hard or anything like that. I just choped that up
Speaker 2: as it was a raccoon or a bear or something.
Speaker 2: But it's easy to explain everything away when I'm so analytical.
Speaker 2: I'm always trying to come up with the answers for things.
Speaker 2: I don't like not knowing things, so I kind of
Speaker 2: obsess over things until I have an answer that I'm
Speaker 2: happy with. And when it comes to this screen that happened,
Speaker 2: I still haven't found an answer other than maybe it's
Speaker 2: the thing that I've believed in my whole life and
Speaker 2: just never thought that I would experience, never thought that
Speaker 2: I had been experiencing it. Yeah, it's sort of the
Speaker 2: last thing that I could use to explain it. It's
Speaker 2: the last thing I ever thought I would use. But
Speaker 2: I don't know what else this could be.
Speaker 1: That is wild. Patrick just it must have been such
Speaker 1: a crazy realization after hearing that account and then realizing, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: kind of makes sense now. Was was there ever a
Speaker 1: like a camp post or a ranger in that campground area?
Speaker 2: We never saw a ranger, so we always have a
Speaker 2: ranger come through our camp at least once or twice.
Speaker 2: In the other camp down down the mountain a little bit.
Speaker 2: This year, we never had a ranger come through. We
Speaker 2: never had anyone show up. We definitely would have asked
Speaker 2: if there were any animals in the area that were
Speaker 2: known for making unusual sounds from what they would normally make,
Speaker 2: because that's what we landed on too. Was just trying
Speaker 2: to explain it away and put our minds at ease
Speaker 2: a little bit. Was one. If it's just an animal
Speaker 2: that isn't making its normal noise, you know, like sometimes
Speaker 2: cats try to bark and dogs try to purr, just
Speaker 2: the unusual type of thing. But as loud as this
Speaker 2: thing was. I've heard cougars cry, I've heard or scream,
Speaker 2: I've heard foxes screaming. I've heard just about every sound
Speaker 2: that every animal makes out there. I've even heard deer bark.
Speaker 2: And I don't know any animal that could have made
Speaker 2: the sound that we heard other than a person. But
Speaker 2: a person, it wouldn't make any sense for them to
Speaker 2: scream the way that they did just one time. If
Speaker 2: it's a person that lives up there in one of
Speaker 2: the houses, that's that's a ways away from us. If
Speaker 2: they want us out of there, why wouldn't they do
Speaker 2: more to try to get us out of there? Why
Speaker 2: just scream one time? Why not try to mess with us?
Speaker 2: Why not throw rocks or whatever at us and and
Speaker 2: really try to spook us out of there. It was
Speaker 2: just one of the weirdest things, and we never had
Speaker 2: anyone come up that we could ask about. It was
Speaker 2: we didn't really felt like we were alone on that
Speaker 2: little island. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'm sure you're you're familiar with with all the different,
Speaker 1: uh weird sounding owl noises. I mean, it sounds like
Speaker 1: this was not anything close to an owl at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the only I shouldn't even say the
Speaker 2: only way it could be an owl. There's no way
Speaker 2: this could have been an owl. But we even talked
Speaker 2: about like, well, maybe it was an owl that flew
Speaker 2: right next to our tent and made a weird screech,
Speaker 2: But there's no owls that make that noise. I know
Speaker 2: they have a wide vocal range, but this sounded like
Speaker 2: a woman that is seven or eight feet tall that
Speaker 2: got really mad and screened at us out of frustration
Speaker 2: or anger and then just went away. It doesn't make
Speaker 2: any sense. And there's an owl can't sound like that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I went through every I was freaking my
Speaker 2: mom out for like four hours just going through. It's
Speaker 2: not an owl. Coyotes can sound weird, but nothing like that. Wolves, bobcats, cougars,
Speaker 2: none of it fit the bill. And it had to
Speaker 2: have had a large lung capacity to produce the sound
Speaker 2: that it produced in the like the resonance that it
Speaker 2: produced it in like this was a large animal.
Speaker 1: The next day or the days after it, did you
Speaker 1: notice anything out of the ordinary around the campsite, like
Speaker 1: like broken trees or or anything weird like that, bent
Speaker 1: over trees anything.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I forgot to mention this. We were scowling
Speaker 2: for huckleberries a couple of days after that, and we
Speaker 2: had gone up the ridge and we made sure we
Speaker 2: kept camp in sight. But we'd gone up the ridge
Speaker 2: and there's a large grove of younger I would say,
Speaker 2: probably like tamaracks. They're either tamarack er or some young
Speaker 2: fur of some sort. And we noticed, I should I
Speaker 2: should say I noticed that there was a single tree
Speaker 2: and these are i'd say they're probably eight inches to
Speaker 2: ten inches around, like you know, they're they're probably sixty
Speaker 2: to seventy feet tall, like they're they're trees. They're they're
Speaker 2: not they're not twigs or saplings or anything. But I
Speaker 2: noticed one it was broke off about I don't know
Speaker 2: if it was i'd say about eight feet up in
Speaker 2: the air. It was just like a clean snap, but
Speaker 2: on top of it was balanced. The top of the tree,
Speaker 2: like the other fifty feet of the tree was just
Speaker 2: laid across where it was broken, and it was balanced
Speaker 2: there like right in the middle of it. There's no
Speaker 2: way that it felt like this, and there was no
Speaker 2: other trees around that were broken for you that could
Speaker 2: have just snapped off and landed on this already snapped
Speaker 2: off tree. It looked like it was placed there, but
Speaker 2: it was like ten feet up. And I took some
Speaker 2: pictures and a video of it that I can send
Speaker 2: to you if you want. And it doesn't make any
Speaker 2: sense for that to be that way, And I thought
Speaker 2: that was one of the weirdest things. But that was
Speaker 2: the only thing that looked out of place. Camp.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is extremely weird. Uh. Yeah, if you don't
Speaker 1: mind sending it over, I'd love to take a look
Speaker 1: at it. That sounds just the fact that it's just
Speaker 1: kind of weirdly balanced. It is very strange.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't like the smaller tree breaks,
Speaker 2: you know, the two or three inch trees that always
Speaker 2: bent overly. This thing was. It was. It was a
Speaker 2: full sized tree. It was just snapped clean. And it's
Speaker 2: possible that it snapped during the like snow pack or
Speaker 2: whatever like that. I know that we get some pretty
Speaker 2: heavy winters up in those mountains. Being that it's down
Speaker 2: in a valley, it just accumulates snow to where that
Speaker 2: could have been what snapped the tree. But that's not
Speaker 2: what balanced it on its own stump. That was. That
Speaker 2: was pretty pretty weird.
Speaker 1: That's that's very weird. After that whole experience, did h
Speaker 1: did you at any point start experiencing weird things at
Speaker 1: home or things that didn't really make sense at all? Anything?
Speaker 2: I thought, not really, uh no, not. Nothing really seemed
Speaker 2: to have followed me home. It. I think the only
Speaker 2: weird thing is just the way I keep thinking about things,
Speaker 2: and I just keep trying to convince myself of it
Speaker 2: being other things than it than it probably is. Yeah, nothing,
Speaker 2: nothing really seemed to follow me so.
Speaker 1: When you say you keep thinking about it, it's just
Speaker 1: that you're is it more, You're you're trying to like
Speaker 1: just logically logically explain away what happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want I want the truth to whatever
Speaker 2: it is. There is a truth to to whatever this
Speaker 2: thing is, and it bugs me not knowing what it is.
Speaker 2: And I think I'm slowly starting to accept that I
Speaker 2: probably won't know what this was exactly, and I just
Speaker 2: sort of need to accept that it probably was a
Speaker 2: bigfoot or a sasquatch, and and I need to be
Speaker 2: okay with that, And I just need to keep that
Speaker 2: in mind moving forward. I shouldn't try to find answers
Speaker 2: when our I already have one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that definitely, that does make sense. I I
Speaker 1: asked that because I found that sometimes people in similar
Speaker 1: situations they end up getting drawn back to the area.
Speaker 1: It's just it's a really weird commonality that's that started
Speaker 1: to come out when I talk to people. They end
Speaker 1: up getting drawn back to the same area, almost inexplicably.
Speaker 1: It's just they start having very vivid dreams about the area.
Speaker 1: It's just it's kind of weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I actually I think we're planning on going
Speaker 2: back up there to camp again this year, and I
Speaker 2: don't know if that's a crazy thing or just sort
Speaker 2: of the investigative side of what I want. Like I'm
Speaker 2: playing with fire a little bit because if it screened one, like,
Speaker 2: if this is is again, how how mad is it
Speaker 2: going to be? Well, if it's even still up there.
Speaker 2: But I think we're going to try to go up
Speaker 2: there and camp, either in that spot or in the
Speaker 2: spot that was in Jason's episode. I don't know that
Speaker 2: I want to experience again, but I don't want to
Speaker 2: be afraid of camping either. I'm drawn back there because
Speaker 2: I want an answer, and I think I need to
Speaker 2: be able to investigate it a little bit more. And
Speaker 2: it's hard to investigate a single scream. If it would
Speaker 2: have done it twice, then I could create a pattern,
Speaker 2: but there's no pattern there. I want to find a motive,
Speaker 2: you know. I just I'm super analytical and logical in
Speaker 2: the way that I think, and I want I want
Speaker 2: to know the truth, whatever it may be. And so
Speaker 2: I guess I am drawn to it. But I haven't
Speaker 2: had any dreams or or any I definitely know the
Speaker 2: supernatural side of some people's encounters and I guess I've
Speaker 2: been fortunate enough to not have experienced that up to
Speaker 2: this point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a is an interesting thing. It can it
Speaker 1: can change very quickly. Uh. I do understand the whole
Speaker 1: being drawn to it, wanting to figure out what it is.
Speaker 1: Once once you know that there is a something out
Speaker 1: there and you know the exact area where it's at,
Speaker 1: and then you want to all you can think about
Speaker 1: is going back to it, because now you know where
Speaker 1: it is and I can I can be the one
Speaker 1: that figures figures this out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's so close, I can touch it. Why
Speaker 2: wouldn't I at least make an attempt.
Speaker 1: To do exactly? It's just it is a very very
Speaker 1: strange phenomenon. But I would say, uh, I think you're
Speaker 1: handling it in the right way where it sounds like,
Speaker 1: you know, wouldn't be just you going back out there,
Speaker 1: which is is good, you know, there'd be it sounds like,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe even your mom would be going out
Speaker 1: with you again.
Speaker 2: Perhaps, Yeah if I if I don't go, she's going
Speaker 2: by yourself and I won't what that happened. So I
Speaker 2: was like, you know what, I'll go with you. I'll
Speaker 2: probably take something we'll probably have to take some precautions
Speaker 2: this time around, like if something else screams at us,
Speaker 2: or something something weird happens, like we should probably not
Speaker 2: stay for another week and a half. After that, she'll
Speaker 2: probably just pick up and like, all right, well, I
Speaker 2: have all the stuff I need. I'm gonna go ahead
Speaker 2: and go analyze from the safety of my home. But yeah,
Speaker 2: it's I don't know if I'm crazy for going back
Speaker 2: up there, but I don't want to. It never the
Speaker 2: fact that I took it as a really threatening scream
Speaker 2: or just a really hostile one, then my mother did
Speaker 2: not feel that way. It puts me at ease in
Speaker 2: the sense that my subjective feeling is like a me problem.
Speaker 2: And maybe it really was just a hey, stop making
Speaker 2: so much noise, like we're up here as opposed to
Speaker 2: a threat. But I don't want to if that wasn't
Speaker 2: a threat, I don't want to experience what a threat
Speaker 2: would be. I don't want to hear it growl at
Speaker 2: me like like it did with Jason. I don't want
Speaker 2: to experience any more hostility than I feel that I've
Speaker 2: already experienced, and putting myself out there, I'm opening myself
Speaker 2: up to it. So I don't know how to prepare
Speaker 2: for that to happen, but I's gonna have the car
Speaker 2: in a position that I can get into it and
Speaker 2: leave if I need.
Speaker 1: To, exactly, and I think it would be it would
Speaker 1: be wise to be aware of any sounds that you
Speaker 1: hear hear in that area. I'm thinking back to Jason's
Speaker 1: interview and just how he had heard some some weird
Speaker 1: things in the emergency beacon. Yeah, yeah, the beacon it
Speaker 1: almost seemed to like be drawing him to an area,
Speaker 1: and just always definitely be aware of that. You never
Speaker 1: want to be drawn into the woods by a weird
Speaker 1: sound or something saying your name or you know, anything
Speaker 1: like that can be the beginning to a really bad
Speaker 1: story for sure.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm I'm fairly self self aware out there,
Speaker 2: and I definitely know when I'm the guy that makes
Speaker 2: the bad choices in the horror movie and I'm just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: why am I walking into the middle of the woods
Speaker 2: when I should be going to my car?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but is very interesting, and I would say, you know,
Speaker 1: if you do decide to go back up there, definitely,
Speaker 1: you know, stay in touch. I would love to hear
Speaker 1: you know if something does happen again in that area,
Speaker 1: and it would it would be very interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to invest in some trail cams, and
Speaker 2: I know that it's it's probably more just to put
Speaker 2: us cities, but I know that these things don't ever
Speaker 2: show up on trail cams. But we're gonna probably invest
Speaker 2: in four of them or so and put them up
Speaker 2: in different areas just surrounding camp and whatnot. Just if
Speaker 2: they want to stay away from trail cams, if we
Speaker 2: surround camp with trail cams, then they won't come into camp.
Speaker 2: Well that's that's my mindset. That makes me happy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if anything, that's that's the easiest way
Speaker 1: to get thing to not come in your camp is
Speaker 1: to put up some game camps, because you know, most
Speaker 1: people think it's it's the IR tends to keep them away.
Speaker 1: And you could always you know, audio recorders are pretty
Speaker 1: inexpensive now. I mean, you can get a task cam
Speaker 1: intro one for I want to say less than one
Speaker 1: hundred now, and that's something you could also have, you know,
Speaker 1: in your camp and just recording all night long and
Speaker 1: you know, see if you're able to capture something.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that would be awesome if I could capture
Speaker 2: that screen. I will say, since all this happened, I
Speaker 2: did watch, and I don't. I don't really watch like
Speaker 2: Finding Bigfoot and stuff like that. But there was a
Speaker 2: single episode that aired on TV that took place in
Speaker 2: the same area that we were in. It's just a
Speaker 2: single mountain over from where we were. It's called Jack
Speaker 2: Osborne's Night of car Bigfoot, where he was investigating up
Speaker 2: in the Priest Lake area, which it really is. It's
Speaker 2: only like fifteen miles from where I was camping. And
Speaker 2: towards the end of that episode spoiler for mebody hasn't
Speaker 2: seen it, they do hear a scream way off in
Speaker 2: the distance that doesn't sound unlike what we heard up there,
Speaker 2: So I can't really describe the scream in the capacity
Speaker 2: that we heard it. But on that particular show, they
Speaker 2: did capture something that sounded similar. It wasn't the same,
Speaker 2: very similar, and it's the only thing I've ever heard
Speaker 2: that sounded similar to what we've heard, yea, and it
Speaker 2: was crazy that happened in the same area that we
Speaker 2: were in. So I don't think that goes without.
Speaker 1: Saying, that's that's really interesting. I did not know that
Speaker 1: was the you know, Truth Be Told. I haven't actually
Speaker 1: watched I need to watch that check it out, but
Speaker 1: I've talked to one of the researchers that was involved
Speaker 1: with it, Kevin Llewellen. But yeah, that sounds that's interesting
Speaker 1: that it's it's that close to where you guys were at.
Speaker 1: So definitely have to check that out. I think you
Speaker 1: can listen where you can watch that on like Discovery
Speaker 1: Plus or one of those, you know, type of network
Speaker 1: type deals.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think it's on Discovery Plus.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Patrick, I just want to say, you know,
Speaker 1: thank you for for coming on the show and for
Speaker 1: for sharing what you've experienced so far in this area,
Speaker 1: and it just it seems like such an interesting area.
Speaker 1: There's people listening to this and they've also you know,
Speaker 1: experienced things in the same area.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Definitely encourage people to you know, leave a comment on
Speaker 1: the the video or they can always send me an
Speaker 1: email directly a big Foot Society Gmail dot com. But Swanse,
Speaker 1: thank you for for coming on the the show tonight.
Speaker 1: And no, hopefully we'll we'll stay in touch and you know,
Speaker 1: who knows what what you might not might be able
Speaker 1: to be involved with next.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I'm excited and thank you for for having
Speaker 2: me and allowing me to share my experience. I'm usually
Speaker 2: just a lurker and I watched the podcast and and
Speaker 2: listen to people's stories and just take down the information.
Speaker 2: But as soon as it happened, well I'm always at
Speaker 2: I felt the need to put it out there and
Speaker 2: sort of confirmed that there's something weird happening up there
Speaker 2: all of a sudden in the past couple of years.
Speaker 2: And the more people that come out and talk about it,
Speaker 2: it's it's important all that data, all that information coming out.
Speaker 1: Absolutely get that. I agree everything every little piece of
Speaker 1: data definitely helps in the long run for sure.
Speaker 2: For sure.
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