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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Big for Society. If you have bigfoot activity

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<v Speaker 1>the show. All right, Pickfoot Society. You've got the privilege

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<v Speaker 1>of talking to Patrick today. Patrick's an individual that reached

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<v Speaker 1>out to the show after he had heard episode five

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<v Speaker 1>sixty six with Jason who had an interesting encounter out

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<v Speaker 1>there in Idaho, and Patrick is pretty familiar with that

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<v Speaker 1>area that was referred to in that episode. Is I

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<v Speaker 1>got to reach out and share what I've experienced in

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<v Speaker 1>that same area. So Patrick, welcome to the show. How's

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<v Speaker 1>it going, man, It's going pretty good. Thanks for having

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<v Speaker 1>me absolutely. Well, you know, I'm excited to hear what

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<v Speaker 1>you have to share. I always love it when there's

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<v Speaker 1>a person that reaches out to me and they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, yeah, that that one episode you had is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty dead on, because I can I can tell you

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff too about the same area. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go ahead and hand things right over

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<v Speaker 1>to you, Patrick, and you're You're welcome to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>take us back to what we need to know. And

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<v Speaker 1>when you started to experience some things out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, yeah. I mean, I'm Patrick, I'm thirty four. I've

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<v Speaker 2>lived here in Idaho in the Quarterline area for my

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<v Speaker 2>entire life, and I've spent all of that going hunting

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<v Speaker 2>and fishing and spending all sorts of time in the

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<v Speaker 2>outdoors like hiking and all that stuff. So I've spent

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<v Speaker 2>plenty of time outside doing stuff, and I never really

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<v Speaker 2>experienced anything that always stood out to me as unexplainable,

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<v Speaker 2>like is weird stuff that has happened? But I've always

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<v Speaker 2>just sort of chocked it up as all, it's probably

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<v Speaker 2>this or probably that. But I've always been a believer

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<v Speaker 2>and that bigfoot or a sasquatch er, there's something out there,

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<v Speaker 2>And it's totally possible that there's something out there that

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<v Speaker 2>we just don't know about, because we're learning about new

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<v Speaker 2>stuff all the time, and to think that we know

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<v Speaker 2>everything about everything is kind of a little arrogant. So

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<v Speaker 2>I always love the idea that there's stuff that we

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<v Speaker 2>don't know about. And I haven't had anything in particular

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<v Speaker 2>happen that made me really think about this being in

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<v Speaker 2>my area until July of last year when I was

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<v Speaker 2>up camping. And every every year, it's it's a tradition

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<v Speaker 2>my my mom and I my entire life. We've we've

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<v Speaker 2>always made it a tradition for two weeks in July,

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<v Speaker 2>over like Fourth of July weekend, we'd go up camping

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<v Speaker 2>and and we we live like homeless people for two weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's just to get away from the city, the lights,

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<v Speaker 2>the sounds, the fast move and everything, and it's just

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<v Speaker 2>sort of our our reset every year. And we've always

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<v Speaker 2>taken a family vacation. It used to be my mom

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<v Speaker 2>and my dad and myself and my brother, but my

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<v Speaker 2>dad since passed a couple of years ago, and so

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<v Speaker 2>we just sort of want to continue on the tradition

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<v Speaker 2>and in all of our time up there, we've experienced

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<v Speaker 2>had things, but we've always made up an explanation for it.

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<v Speaker 2>But because we've never really well, I'm a very like

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<v Speaker 2>analytical kind of person, and so I always try to

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<v Speaker 2>just come up with the forty things it would be

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<v Speaker 2>before it's it's Sasquatch, and I always just sort of

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<v Speaker 2>land on something even though I don't really know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about, but I guess I'll get into what

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<v Speaker 2>actually happened this past year. So we were we were

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<v Speaker 2>up camping and referring to it, and we camp in

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<v Speaker 2>the exact spot that Jason from episode five sixty six

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<v Speaker 2>was talking about. And I so I saw the thumbnail

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<v Speaker 2>for that episode and it said Standpoint, Idaho, and I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>we we camped there, so I really wanted to listen

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<v Speaker 2>to that episode and hearing him describe like where he

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<v Speaker 2>was at, I'm like, that's our camp site that we

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<v Speaker 2>always camp in. And then after our experience, I was like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>so people are experiencing things right where we've been for

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<v Speaker 2>my entire life, So maybe the stuff we've been experiencing

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<v Speaker 2>isn't a moose or a bear or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So my mother and I tried to go up and

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<v Speaker 2>get that spot that he was talking about, but for

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<v Speaker 2>some reason, this year, the woods were absolutely packed full

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<v Speaker 2>of campers and it was a really good year for huckleberry,

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<v Speaker 2>so I would imagine a lot of huckleberry pickers were

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<v Speaker 2>out there. So we were sort of forced to go

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<v Speaker 2>up the mountain another couple of miles and we found

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<v Speaker 2>another campsite up on a ridge. And this campsite doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>get camped in that often because it's way up off

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<v Speaker 2>the river. It's on the opposite side of the mountain

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<v Speaker 2>road that goes there's only one road that goes up

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<v Speaker 2>that mountain on that river, and most of the campsites

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<v Speaker 2>are right on the river, but this one is one

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<v Speaker 2>of those that's not, and so it's always open. But

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<v Speaker 2>it was sort of our last resort and we camped

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<v Speaker 2>there and it was actually a really nice spot. It's

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<v Speaker 2>right on a ridge, like big old ridge coming straight down,

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<v Speaker 2>goes all the way down to the river, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>an abundance of bear grass on this ridge, so I

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<v Speaker 2>called it Beargrass Ridge. And we we set up camp.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a couple of tents and it's it's probably

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, probably one hundred feet by one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>feet campground like, it's big, it's open, and it's not

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<v Speaker 2>next to anybody, which was really nice because the campsite

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<v Speaker 2>that Jason talked about is right next to a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people. It's one campsite, and that a little road

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<v Speaker 2>that goes down to another campsite, another little road that

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<v Speaker 2>goes down to another one. Not this one. This one's

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<v Speaker 2>all by itself on this ridge. And so we thought,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, we maybe we won this time. But

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<v Speaker 2>we were there for a couple of nights and then

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<v Speaker 2>my aunt and her fiance decided to join us for

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<v Speaker 2>about a week, which doesn't usually happen. It was nice to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, have the campsite be a little bit more

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<v Speaker 2>full than just my mom and myself, and so it

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<v Speaker 2>was probably we get up there on a Thursday, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's probably about it, I would say a Tuesday night

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<v Speaker 2>that all of this happened. We were sitting by the

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<v Speaker 2>fire as as most people do, and my aunt and

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<v Speaker 2>her fiance decide to call it and I probably around

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<v Speaker 2>let's say ten or eleven o'clock, the temperature drops like

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<v Speaker 2>crazy out there. It's ninety during the day, and then

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<v Speaker 2>it drops down to probably forty five or fifty at night,

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<v Speaker 2>and after being so hot, turning to that cold, it

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<v Speaker 2>makes you want to go inside and bundle up pretty

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<v Speaker 2>pretty quick. So they got done with the fire and

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<v Speaker 2>they went straight to bed and they sleep in one

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<v Speaker 2>of those campers that goes up on top of the truck.

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<v Speaker 2>And my mother and I are just sitting in a tent,

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<v Speaker 2>and we were in a little tent where we have

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<v Speaker 2>a little card table set up and we're playing card

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<v Speaker 2>games and stuff. And you know, we don't really have

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<v Speaker 2>a time that we go to bed, Like there's times

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<v Speaker 2>that week sit there and play games until the sun

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<v Speaker 2>came up. And that was one of those nights where

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<v Speaker 2>it was probably one thirty or two in the morning,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're just playing a card game and we have

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<v Speaker 2>some lights in the tent so that we can see everything.

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<v Speaker 2>The lights are powered by a generator, and we have

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<v Speaker 2>the generator we have set up probably about fifty feet away.

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<v Speaker 2>We have put it just outside camp so that it's

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<v Speaker 2>not making too much noise for my aunt and her

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<v Speaker 2>fiance to sleep and stuff like that. But it is

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<v Speaker 2>our generatory. It's it's a cheap little thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>It's not quiet, so it rattles and it makes up

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty loud ruckus. And I think that's a fairly

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<v Speaker 2>important thing to note, is this thing is not quiet,

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<v Speaker 2>and we we're not necessarily quiet either. We're laughing, we're hollering,

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<v Speaker 2>we're you know, we're we're having a great time, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we're not being rowdy, but but we're not

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<v Speaker 2>being quiet either. And so about one thirty, we're just

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<v Speaker 2>playing cards and all of a sudden, from it. It

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<v Speaker 2>was behind my my mother, and it was sort of

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<v Speaker 2>off to We're sitting across the table from each other,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was slightly off to my right that we

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<v Speaker 2>hear this. I don't want to see it. It was blood curdling,

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<v Speaker 2>but it almost sounded like it was the loudest scream

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever heard in my life. It stopped us both

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<v Speaker 2>in our in our tracks for sure. And what it

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<v Speaker 2>sounded like, the only way I could describe it is

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<v Speaker 2>it sounded like a woman like running down a hill

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<v Speaker 2>into a war cry, running down a hill. And it

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<v Speaker 2>was like a kind of I don't know how to

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<v Speaker 2>describe it, but it was longer than that. It was.

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<v Speaker 2>It's definitely sustained. It was so loud. It could have

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<v Speaker 2>been fifty feet away, it could have been right next

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<v Speaker 2>to our tent, but it certainly wasn't more than one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred feet away, and it was so loud. And the

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<v Speaker 2>crazy thing is my mother and I both got to

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<v Speaker 2>experience this, and I am thrilled because nobody would think

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<v Speaker 2>anything if it was just me that heard this, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was it was one of those things. We immediately

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<v Speaker 2>were like, what the heck was that? Or we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>say heck, but you know, we need some more colorful language.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're like, what is that? And I immediately go

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<v Speaker 2>and grab my pistol, like that's going to do anything.

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<v Speaker 2>But this sounded like a very large person, Like imagine

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<v Speaker 2>that it's a woman, but like pitch it down and

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<v Speaker 2>make it where it sounds a lot bigger than a person.

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<v Speaker 2>And being that I'm super analytical, I'm immediately trying to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out what this could be. I'm going through all

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<v Speaker 2>the animals that we have, and we have an abundance

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<v Speaker 2>of animals in North Idaho that can make odd screams

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<v Speaker 2>and odd noises anywhere from an elk to a bobcat,

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<v Speaker 2>bobcat to an owl, coyotes, they all make some noises,

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<v Speaker 2>but there was a lung capacity on this that I mean, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Would expect from from a person, but it sounded so

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<v Speaker 3>much bigger, and I immediately got the feeling that it

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<v Speaker 3>was really angry at us.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it was like telling us to shut up, like

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<v Speaker 2>an angry neighbor yelling you to turn your music. And

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<v Speaker 2>my mother, on the other hand, talking to her afterwards,

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<v Speaker 2>got a different feeling from this scream. She felt that

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<v Speaker 2>it was sort of a like, hey, do you mind,

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<v Speaker 2>like just sort of letting us know that it was there,

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<v Speaker 2>And I did not feel that way. I felt like

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<v Speaker 2>it was very upset. And so we're sitting there and

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<v Speaker 2>we grab our flashlights and we have a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>pretty high powered flashlights, like six thousand to nine thousand

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<v Speaker 2>lumin flashlights, and we ends up all the windows in

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<v Speaker 2>our tent to like shine out there and look around,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, I'm expecting this thing to come barreling

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<v Speaker 2>into our camp and you know, attack the tent or

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<v Speaker 2>start wreaking havoc. Like this thing sounded like it was

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<v Speaker 2>about raying, it wanted to like kill us. And we're

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<v Speaker 2>shining the lights around and I've got my big flashlight

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to do something. But there was nothing. There

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<v Speaker 2>was no eye shine. We never heard footprints or footsteps,

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<v Speaker 2>we never heard any rustling in the trees. Nothing. It

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<v Speaker 2>was just a single scream and then nothing. And so

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<v Speaker 2>my head around it, and I'm trying not to freak

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<v Speaker 2>my mom out. She's already, you know, having a small

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<v Speaker 2>moment to herself of I don't know what that was,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't feel right anymore. And the whole time

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<v Speaker 2>we're all sitting there trying to think about things, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>wondering how my aunt and her fiance didn't hear anything,

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<v Speaker 2>because it also came from about fifty feet away from

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<v Speaker 2>their truck, but they were dead asleep. They never heard

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<v Speaker 2>a thing. And that's another thing that I'm so glad

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<v Speaker 2>that my mother was there to experience this with me,

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<v Speaker 2>because people would question the fact that, oh, there's two

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<v Speaker 2>other people in camp and they didn't hear anything. It's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how they didn't wake up, but they

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<v Speaker 2>were zonked out apparently. But yeah, So that was that experience,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is the only experience in the woods that

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<v Speaker 2>I've never been able to explain away as something, but

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<v Speaker 2>having that experience sort of changes the context around some

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<v Speaker 2>other things that have happened up there, and going back

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<v Speaker 2>and thinking about stuff, like maybe stuff has been happening

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<v Speaker 2>my entire life up there. But we've always been camped

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<v Speaker 2>next to the river up until this point. So the

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<v Speaker 2>river is a it's a really shallow river, so it runs,

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<v Speaker 2>it's pretty loud. Being camped right next to the river,

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<v Speaker 2>it drowns out a lot of sounds. But when I

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<v Speaker 2>was younger, when it was my mom, my dad, and myself,

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<v Speaker 2>we would always hear rocks and stuff moving in the river.

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<v Speaker 2>And my dad was always like, oh, yeah, just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the current of the river is just moving rocks. But

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<v Speaker 2>it was like boulders that were being moved, and you

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<v Speaker 2>could hear them move like it wasn't just like shifting,

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<v Speaker 2>it was I don't know, it sounded like they were

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<v Speaker 2>being tossed in, but without the splash, like just really

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<v Speaker 2>loud like clunks, like rocks hitting rocks. And every once

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<v Speaker 2>in a while I would think that I would hear

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<v Speaker 2>talking or voices coming from near the river. But I've

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<v Speaker 2>always explained that is the river can make all sorts

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<v Speaker 2>of weird noises, the way that the sound can come

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<v Speaker 2>up and hit you. And I've heard people talk about

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<v Speaker 2>how it can sound like there's talking coming from the river.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm just always explained it away, but assuming that

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<v Speaker 2>there is something out there, something large that sounds kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like a human, but bigger than a human. And

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<v Speaker 2>I've experienced these weird sounds that sound kind of human,

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<v Speaker 2>but I could never make out the voices or anything

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<v Speaker 2>like maybe that's something I explained it away before, but

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<v Speaker 2>maybe that's something. And there was another time we were

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<v Speaker 2>camped in the same area that Jason was talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>just one camp side over and it was I called

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<v Speaker 2>the Sandpit where we had a big flood a few

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<v Speaker 2>years ago and it washed up a lot of sand

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<v Speaker 2>into this campsite, so it's kind of like you're camping

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<v Speaker 2>on a beach. But we were getting ready to leave

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<v Speaker 2>after our two weeks stay one time, and there was

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<v Speaker 2>no wind. It was the most still day I think

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<v Speaker 2>we experienced uf there not even a breeze, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>getting ready to leave and a mother and her like

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<v Speaker 2>two or three kids came in and wanted to go

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<v Speaker 2>swimming down to the river and asked if it was

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<v Speaker 2>okay if they did that. While we packed up and left,

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<v Speaker 2>and we were just chit chatting, making small talk, and

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, I hear the loudest cracking of

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<v Speaker 2>a tree going down, just out of site from camp,

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<v Speaker 2>but down by the river, and I see the top

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<v Speaker 2>of a very large asp and start to go down,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, that is weird because there's no wind,

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<v Speaker 2>no breeze, and I can tell just by looking at

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<v Speaker 2>the top of this tree it's a pretty healthy tree.

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<v Speaker 2>And so after our heartbeats relaxed a little bit, I

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<v Speaker 2>decided to go and look at what happened and what

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<v Speaker 2>made this aspen go down. And I go over and

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<v Speaker 2>I look at this tree and it's not uprooted, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's split at the base like it was. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I know that this can happen, but it just it

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<v Speaker 2>seemed so weird that they would have had to have

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<v Speaker 2>been a force that had pushed this tree over just

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<v Speaker 2>the way that had a diagonal split at the base,

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<v Speaker 2>for the crack might have already been there. But there's

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<v Speaker 2>no way that this tree fell over without something having

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<v Speaker 2>pushed it. This was a large tree. This was the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest aspen in the entire area, and so I initially

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<v Speaker 2>explained it away as there was probably a bear or

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<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe a moose or something that pushed against it,

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<v Speaker 2>like who knows, But considering what we heard this past year,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it wasn't. And then again this past year, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess I'm all over the place. But going back to

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<v Speaker 2>what happened this past year, as a couple of days

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<v Speaker 2>after this scream happened, I'm getting this. I have this

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<v Speaker 2>terrible feeling up there that we're being watched. I just

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<v Speaker 2>have this this not in my stomach. I was not

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<v Speaker 2>relaxed for or probably five days after this this happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to venture more than one hundred feet

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<v Speaker 2>away from camp, but I don't feel good about anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm ready to pack it in. But there's three other

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<v Speaker 2>people vacationing with me that really don't seem to feel

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<v Speaker 2>the same way that I do about this. Like my

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<v Speaker 2>mother chocked it up as well, I was a weird,

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<v Speaker 2>creepy experience, and my aunt and her fiance were just

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<v Speaker 2>more you know, they didn't experience anything, so they didn't care.

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<v Speaker 2>But like two days after this happened. I decided to venture, well,

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<v Speaker 2>probably a couple hundred feet away from camp, up on

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<v Speaker 2>the little hill that the camp site is nestled up to,

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<v Speaker 2>going up the ridge a little bit. And the way

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<v Speaker 2>this ridge is set up is we're a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a plateau and then the ridge drops down, probably

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred feet away from camp on either side. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just sort of walking up on the ridge a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit and I hear this sounds like a truck

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<v Speaker 2>and trailer coming down the mountain on the road that's

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<v Speaker 2>off to our right. And I was like, okay, like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, probably people will take their clouds up there

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<v Speaker 2>all the time, but it seemed kind of loud for

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<v Speaker 2>a truck and trailer. It sounded further away, but it

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<v Speaker 2>sounded louder than it should be. And when I say

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<v Speaker 2>it sounds like a truck and trailer, when you hear

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<v Speaker 2>a trailer, you can hear like the metal clanking and

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<v Speaker 2>banging a little bit. That's what I thought I heard.

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<v Speaker 2>And then as I'm listening to it getting louder and louder,

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<v Speaker 2>I noticed that it's not necessarily following the path of

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<v Speaker 2>the road. It's actually coming up the ridge at me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm sitting there just intently listening to this to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure that I'm hearing what I'm hearing. And as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as I confirm in my head that oh, this

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<v Speaker 2>isn't following the road, this can't be a truck and trailer.

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<v Speaker 2>But what sounds like the metal clanking and banging turns

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<v Speaker 2>into really heavy, labored breaths, like really deep like like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know that moose can do that, and bear

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that if they're spooked and trying to

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<v Speaker 2>tear up a ridge can be like that. But I

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<v Speaker 2>immediately had this feeling. And it's only been a day

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<v Speaker 2>and half for two days since that crazy loud scream,

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<v Speaker 2>So that's sitting in the back of my head too,

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<v Speaker 2>to where I'm like, Okay, if I don't move right now,

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<v Speaker 2>something bad is going to happen to me, because it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds like it's coming straight at me, but I can't

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<v Speaker 2>see anything, and I'm sitting there and I said, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna I'm gonna back up, So I back up about

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<v Speaker 2>forty feet and I see my my mother right behind me,

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<v Speaker 2>just leisurely picking huckleberries, and I just turned. I was

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<v Speaker 2>like hey, I was like, we probably should go back

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<v Speaker 2>to camp. I was like, I don't know what that is,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's like what. I was like, do you hear

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<v Speaker 2>that thing going up the ridge right in front of us?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>And she's like no, We like, how do you not

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<v Speaker 2>hear this? It was so loud, and she's like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what you're talking about. And so while that

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<v Speaker 2>could be a moose or a bear or some other

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<v Speaker 2>or an elk, in the context of what had just

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<v Speaker 2>happened up there, that freaked me out pretty good. And

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that was sort of the last of the

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<v Speaker 2>big things that we experienced up there. A couple days

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<v Speaker 2>after that, it was probably the day before we were

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<v Speaker 2>going to leave, we saw something big and black, I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't say really big, probably the size of a small

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<v Speaker 2>black bear or a large raccoon or something fall out

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<v Speaker 2>of a tree. It was up near the top of

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<v Speaker 2>a tree, probably one hundred and fifty feet away from camp.

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<v Speaker 2>You ever take, and we hear a twig snap from

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<v Speaker 2>that direction. We turn and we just see the last

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<v Speaker 2>second something black like falling down from the tree out

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<v Speaker 2>of our light of sight. So, like a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>really smart people, we went to go investigate with a

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<v Speaker 2>fly swatter and a pistol, and we we didn't see anything.

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<v Speaker 2>There was no signs of anything having hit the ground

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<v Speaker 2>hard or anything like that. I just choped that up

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<v Speaker 2>as it was a raccoon or a bear or something.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's easy to explain everything away when I'm so analytical.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm always trying to come up with the answers for things.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like not knowing things, so I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>obsess over things until I have an answer that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>happy with. And when it comes to this screen that happened,

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<v Speaker 2>I still haven't found an answer other than maybe it's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing that I've believed in my whole life and

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<v Speaker 2>just never thought that I would experience, never thought that

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<v Speaker 2>I had been experiencing it. Yeah, it's sort of the

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<v Speaker 2>last thing that I could use to explain it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the last thing I ever thought I would use. But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what else this could be.

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<v Speaker 1>That is wild. Patrick just it must have been such

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<v Speaker 1>a crazy realization after hearing that account and then realizing, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of makes sense now. Was was there ever a

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<v Speaker 1>like a camp post or a ranger in that campground area?

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<v Speaker 2>We never saw a ranger, so we always have a

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<v Speaker 2>ranger come through our camp at least once or twice.

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<v Speaker 2>In the other camp down down the mountain a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>This year, we never had a ranger come through. We

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<v Speaker 2>never had anyone show up. We definitely would have asked

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<v Speaker 2>if there were any animals in the area that were

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<v Speaker 2>known for making unusual sounds from what they would normally make,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's what we landed on too. Was just trying

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<v Speaker 2>to explain it away and put our minds at ease

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit. Was one. If it's just an animal

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<v Speaker 2>that isn't making its normal noise, you know, like sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>cats try to bark and dogs try to purr, just

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<v Speaker 2>the unusual type of thing. But as loud as this

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<v Speaker 2>thing was. I've heard cougars cry, I've heard or scream,

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard foxes screaming. I've heard just about every sound

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<v Speaker 2>that every animal makes out there. I've even heard deer bark.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know any animal that could have made

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<v Speaker 2>the sound that we heard other than a person. But

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<v Speaker 2>a person, it wouldn't make any sense for them to

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<v Speaker 2>scream the way that they did just one time. If

417
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<v Speaker 2>it's a person that lives up there in one of

418
00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:24.559
<v Speaker 2>the houses, that's that's a ways away from us. If

419
00:30:24.599 --> 00:30:26.240
<v Speaker 2>they want us out of there, why wouldn't they do

420
00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:28.759
<v Speaker 2>more to try to get us out of there? Why

421
00:30:28.920 --> 00:30:32.000
<v Speaker 2>just scream one time? Why not try to mess with us?

422
00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:36.079
<v Speaker 2>Why not throw rocks or whatever at us and and

423
00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:39.599
<v Speaker 2>really try to spook us out of there. It was

424
00:30:39.640 --> 00:30:41.839
<v Speaker 2>just one of the weirdest things, and we never had

425
00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:47.000
<v Speaker 2>anyone come up that we could ask about. It was

426
00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:50.000
<v Speaker 2>we didn't really felt like we were alone on that

427
00:30:50.039 --> 00:30:52.759
<v Speaker 2>little island. Yeah.

428
00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I'm sure you're you're familiar with with all the different,

429
00:30:58.880 --> 00:31:02.759
<v Speaker 1>uh weird sounding owl noises. I mean, it sounds like

430
00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:08.440
<v Speaker 1>this was not anything close to an owl at all.

431
00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:11.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean the only I shouldn't even say the

432
00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:13.880
<v Speaker 2>only way it could be an owl. There's no way

433
00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:16.039
<v Speaker 2>this could have been an owl. But we even talked

434
00:31:16.039 --> 00:31:17.960
<v Speaker 2>about like, well, maybe it was an owl that flew

435
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:21.759
<v Speaker 2>right next to our tent and made a weird screech,

436
00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:25.039
<v Speaker 2>But there's no owls that make that noise. I know

437
00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:28.400
<v Speaker 2>they have a wide vocal range, but this sounded like

438
00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:34.160
<v Speaker 2>a woman that is seven or eight feet tall that

439
00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:38.720
<v Speaker 2>got really mad and screened at us out of frustration

440
00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:43.920
<v Speaker 2>or anger and then just went away. It doesn't make

441
00:31:43.960 --> 00:31:47.440
<v Speaker 2>any sense. And there's an owl can't sound like that.

442
00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:53.279
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I went through every I was freaking my

443
00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:58.559
<v Speaker 2>mom out for like four hours just going through. It's

444
00:31:58.599 --> 00:32:08.599
<v Speaker 2>not an owl. Coyotes can sound weird, but nothing like that. Wolves, bobcats, cougars,

445
00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:12.920
<v Speaker 2>none of it fit the bill. And it had to

446
00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:17.599
<v Speaker 2>have had a large lung capacity to produce the sound

447
00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:21.440
<v Speaker 2>that it produced in the like the resonance that it

448
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:25.680
<v Speaker 2>produced it in like this was a large animal.

449
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:35.720
<v Speaker 1>The next day or the days after it, did you

450
00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:41.680
<v Speaker 1>notice anything out of the ordinary around the campsite, like

451
00:32:41.680 --> 00:32:47.960
<v Speaker 1>like broken trees or or anything weird like that, bent

452
00:32:48.079 --> 00:32:49.759
<v Speaker 1>over trees anything.

453
00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:57.799
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I forgot to mention this. We were scowling

454
00:32:57.839 --> 00:33:01.079
<v Speaker 2>for huckleberries a couple of days after that, and we

455
00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:03.799
<v Speaker 2>had gone up the ridge and we made sure we

456
00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:07.240
<v Speaker 2>kept camp in sight. But we'd gone up the ridge

457
00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:14.559
<v Speaker 2>and there's a large grove of younger I would say,

458
00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:19.680
<v Speaker 2>probably like tamaracks. They're either tamarack er or some young

459
00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:25.880
<v Speaker 2>fur of some sort. And we noticed, I should I

460
00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:31.119
<v Speaker 2>should say I noticed that there was a single tree

461
00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:36.440
<v Speaker 2>and these are i'd say they're probably eight inches to

462
00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:41.079
<v Speaker 2>ten inches around, like you know, they're they're probably sixty

463
00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:44.559
<v Speaker 2>to seventy feet tall, like they're they're trees. They're they're

464
00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:49.279
<v Speaker 2>not they're not twigs or saplings or anything. But I

465
00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:55.240
<v Speaker 2>noticed one it was broke off about I don't know

466
00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:58.839
<v Speaker 2>if it was i'd say about eight feet up in

467
00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:03.480
<v Speaker 2>the air. It was just like a clean snap, but

468
00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:10.320
<v Speaker 2>on top of it was balanced. The top of the tree,

469
00:34:11.719 --> 00:34:15.320
<v Speaker 2>like the other fifty feet of the tree was just

470
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:19.159
<v Speaker 2>laid across where it was broken, and it was balanced

471
00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:23.719
<v Speaker 2>there like right in the middle of it. There's no

472
00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:28.119
<v Speaker 2>way that it felt like this, and there was no

473
00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:34.280
<v Speaker 2>other trees around that were broken for you that could

474
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:37.440
<v Speaker 2>have just snapped off and landed on this already snapped

475
00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:41.760
<v Speaker 2>off tree. It looked like it was placed there, but

476
00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:45.000
<v Speaker 2>it was like ten feet up. And I took some

477
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:49.400
<v Speaker 2>pictures and a video of it that I can send

478
00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:52.159
<v Speaker 2>to you if you want. And it doesn't make any

479
00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:54.440
<v Speaker 2>sense for that to be that way, And I thought

480
00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:57.400
<v Speaker 2>that was one of the weirdest things. But that was

481
00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:00.519
<v Speaker 2>the only thing that looked out of place. Camp.

482
00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is extremely weird. Uh. Yeah, if you don't

483
00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:07.599
<v Speaker 1>mind sending it over, I'd love to take a look

484
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:10.519
<v Speaker 1>at it. That sounds just the fact that it's just

485
00:35:10.599 --> 00:35:17.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of weirdly balanced. It is very strange.

486
00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:21.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't like the smaller tree breaks,

487
00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:23.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, the two or three inch trees that always

488
00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:26.760
<v Speaker 2>bent overly. This thing was. It was. It was a

489
00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:30.320
<v Speaker 2>full sized tree. It was just snapped clean. And it's

490
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:34.480
<v Speaker 2>possible that it snapped during the like snow pack or

491
00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:39.000
<v Speaker 2>whatever like that. I know that we get some pretty

492
00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:41.840
<v Speaker 2>heavy winters up in those mountains. Being that it's down

493
00:35:41.880 --> 00:35:45.400
<v Speaker 2>in a valley, it just accumulates snow to where that

494
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:48.320
<v Speaker 2>could have been what snapped the tree. But that's not

495
00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:51.960
<v Speaker 2>what balanced it on its own stump. That was. That

496
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:53.159
<v Speaker 2>was pretty pretty weird.

497
00:35:54.719 --> 00:36:01.400
<v Speaker 1>That's that's very weird. After that whole experience, did h

498
00:36:03.719 --> 00:36:10.440
<v Speaker 1>did you at any point start experiencing weird things at

499
00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:15.679
<v Speaker 1>home or things that didn't really make sense at all? Anything?

500
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:26.360
<v Speaker 2>I thought, not really, uh no, not. Nothing really seemed

501
00:36:26.360 --> 00:36:30.599
<v Speaker 2>to have followed me home. It. I think the only

502
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:33.360
<v Speaker 2>weird thing is just the way I keep thinking about things,

503
00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:37.440
<v Speaker 2>and I just keep trying to convince myself of it

504
00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:42.639
<v Speaker 2>being other things than it than it probably is. Yeah, nothing,

505
00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:45.719
<v Speaker 2>nothing really seemed to follow me so.

506
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:49.280
<v Speaker 1>When you say you keep thinking about it, it's just

507
00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:51.960
<v Speaker 1>that you're is it more, You're you're trying to like

508
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:58.920
<v Speaker 1>just logically logically explain away what happened.

509
00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:03.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just want I want the truth to whatever

510
00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:06.719
<v Speaker 2>it is. There is a truth to to whatever this

511
00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:10.320
<v Speaker 2>thing is, and it bugs me not knowing what it is.

512
00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:15.079
<v Speaker 2>And I think I'm slowly starting to accept that I

513
00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:20.639
<v Speaker 2>probably won't know what this was exactly, and I just

514
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:25.719
<v Speaker 2>sort of need to accept that it probably was a

515
00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:31.719
<v Speaker 2>bigfoot or a sasquatch, and and I need to be

516
00:37:31.800 --> 00:37:34.960
<v Speaker 2>okay with that, And I just need to keep that

517
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:38.079
<v Speaker 2>in mind moving forward. I shouldn't try to find answers

518
00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:40.079
<v Speaker 2>when our I already have one.

519
00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:46.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that that definitely, that does make sense. I I

520
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:51.920
<v Speaker 1>asked that because I found that sometimes people in similar

521
00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:58.039
<v Speaker 1>situations they end up getting drawn back to the area.

522
00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:05.719
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's a really weird commonality that's that started

523
00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:09.679
<v Speaker 1>to come out when I talk to people. They end

524
00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:15.280
<v Speaker 1>up getting drawn back to the same area, almost inexplicably.

525
00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:19.880
<v Speaker 1>It's just they start having very vivid dreams about the area.

526
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:24.079
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's kind of weird.

527
00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, I actually I think we're planning on going

528
00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:34.320
<v Speaker 2>back up there to camp again this year, and I

529
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:36.559
<v Speaker 2>don't know if that's a crazy thing or just sort

530
00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:39.559
<v Speaker 2>of the investigative side of what I want. Like I'm

531
00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:43.960
<v Speaker 2>playing with fire a little bit because if it screened one, like,

532
00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:46.480
<v Speaker 2>if this is is again, how how mad is it

533
00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:49.760
<v Speaker 2>going to be? Well, if it's even still up there.

534
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:52.480
<v Speaker 2>But I think we're going to try to go up

535
00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:55.480
<v Speaker 2>there and camp, either in that spot or in the

536
00:38:55.519 --> 00:39:00.800
<v Speaker 2>spot that was in Jason's episode. I don't know that

537
00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:05.199
<v Speaker 2>I want to experience again, but I don't want to

538
00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:08.519
<v Speaker 2>be afraid of camping either. I'm drawn back there because

539
00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:12.119
<v Speaker 2>I want an answer, and I think I need to

540
00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:16.199
<v Speaker 2>be able to investigate it a little bit more. And

541
00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:21.039
<v Speaker 2>it's hard to investigate a single scream. If it would

542
00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:25.199
<v Speaker 2>have done it twice, then I could create a pattern,

543
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:28.719
<v Speaker 2>but there's no pattern there. I want to find a motive,

544
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:32.719
<v Speaker 2>you know. I just I'm super analytical and logical in

545
00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:36.440
<v Speaker 2>the way that I think, and I want I want

546
00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:40.639
<v Speaker 2>to know the truth, whatever it may be. And so

547
00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:43.320
<v Speaker 2>I guess I am drawn to it. But I haven't

548
00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:48.840
<v Speaker 2>had any dreams or or any I definitely know the

549
00:39:48.920 --> 00:39:52.920
<v Speaker 2>supernatural side of some people's encounters and I guess I've

550
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:56.639
<v Speaker 2>been fortunate enough to not have experienced that up to

551
00:39:56.679 --> 00:39:57.239
<v Speaker 2>this point.

552
00:39:57.559 --> 00:40:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a is an interesting thing. It can it

553
00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:09.320
<v Speaker 1>can change very quickly. Uh. I do understand the whole

554
00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:14.639
<v Speaker 1>being drawn to it, wanting to figure out what it is.

555
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:19.679
<v Speaker 1>Once once you know that there is a something out

556
00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:23.079
<v Speaker 1>there and you know the exact area where it's at,

557
00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:26.159
<v Speaker 1>and then you want to all you can think about

558
00:40:26.280 --> 00:40:30.280
<v Speaker 1>is going back to it, because now you know where

559
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:32.400
<v Speaker 1>it is and I can I can be the one

560
00:40:32.400 --> 00:40:34.440
<v Speaker 1>that figures figures this out.

561
00:40:35.079 --> 00:40:37.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like it's so close, I can touch it. Why

562
00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:39.440
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't I at least make an attempt.

563
00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:43.440
<v Speaker 1>To do exactly? It's just it is a very very

564
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:48.679
<v Speaker 1>strange phenomenon. But I would say, uh, I think you're

565
00:40:48.800 --> 00:40:51.239
<v Speaker 1>handling it in the right way where it sounds like,

566
00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:54.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, wouldn't be just you going back out there,

567
00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:57.960
<v Speaker 1>which is is good, you know, there'd be it sounds like,

568
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:00.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe even your mom would be going out

569
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:01.880
<v Speaker 1>with you again.

570
00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:05.320
<v Speaker 2>Perhaps, Yeah if I if I don't go, she's going

571
00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:08.960
<v Speaker 2>by yourself and I won't what that happened. So I

572
00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:12.000
<v Speaker 2>was like, you know what, I'll go with you. I'll

573
00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:16.239
<v Speaker 2>probably take something we'll probably have to take some precautions

574
00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:18.960
<v Speaker 2>this time around, like if something else screams at us,

575
00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:24.039
<v Speaker 2>or something something weird happens, like we should probably not

576
00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:27.760
<v Speaker 2>stay for another week and a half. After that, she'll

577
00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:30.920
<v Speaker 2>probably just pick up and like, all right, well, I

578
00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:34.039
<v Speaker 2>have all the stuff I need. I'm gonna go ahead

579
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:39.280
<v Speaker 2>and go analyze from the safety of my home. But yeah,

580
00:41:39.320 --> 00:41:43.480
<v Speaker 2>it's I don't know if I'm crazy for going back

581
00:41:43.559 --> 00:41:49.039
<v Speaker 2>up there, but I don't want to. It never the

582
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:52.920
<v Speaker 2>fact that I took it as a really threatening scream

583
00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:58.280
<v Speaker 2>or just a really hostile one, then my mother did

584
00:41:58.360 --> 00:42:01.760
<v Speaker 2>not feel that way. It puts me at ease in

585
00:42:01.800 --> 00:42:07.440
<v Speaker 2>the sense that my subjective feeling is like a me problem.

586
00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:11.159
<v Speaker 2>And maybe it really was just a hey, stop making

587
00:42:11.199 --> 00:42:15.840
<v Speaker 2>so much noise, like we're up here as opposed to

588
00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:19.239
<v Speaker 2>a threat. But I don't want to if that wasn't

589
00:42:19.239 --> 00:42:22.079
<v Speaker 2>a threat, I don't want to experience what a threat

590
00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:24.840
<v Speaker 2>would be. I don't want to hear it growl at

591
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:30.519
<v Speaker 2>me like like it did with Jason. I don't want

592
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:34.000
<v Speaker 2>to experience any more hostility than I feel that I've

593
00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:38.880
<v Speaker 2>already experienced, and putting myself out there, I'm opening myself

594
00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:41.760
<v Speaker 2>up to it. So I don't know how to prepare

595
00:42:41.920 --> 00:42:46.639
<v Speaker 2>for that to happen, but I's gonna have the car

596
00:42:46.679 --> 00:42:48.719
<v Speaker 2>in a position that I can get into it and

597
00:42:48.840 --> 00:42:49.760
<v Speaker 2>leave if I need.

598
00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:54.760
<v Speaker 1>To, exactly, and I think it would be it would

599
00:42:54.760 --> 00:42:59.000
<v Speaker 1>be wise to be aware of any sounds that you

600
00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:05.719
<v Speaker 1>hear hear in that area. I'm thinking back to Jason's

601
00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:10.760
<v Speaker 1>interview and just how he had heard some some weird

602
00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:16.719
<v Speaker 1>things in the emergency beacon. Yeah, yeah, the beacon it

603
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:20.559
<v Speaker 1>almost seemed to like be drawing him to an area,

604
00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:23.079
<v Speaker 1>and just always definitely be aware of that. You never

605
00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:27.519
<v Speaker 1>want to be drawn into the woods by a weird

606
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:33.440
<v Speaker 1>sound or something saying your name or you know, anything

607
00:43:33.480 --> 00:43:36.800
<v Speaker 1>like that can be the beginning to a really bad

608
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:38.639
<v Speaker 1>story for sure.

609
00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:43.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I'm I'm fairly self self aware out there,

610
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:47.920
<v Speaker 2>and I definitely know when I'm the guy that makes

611
00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:52.119
<v Speaker 2>the bad choices in the horror movie and I'm just like, yeah,

612
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:54.679
<v Speaker 2>why am I walking into the middle of the woods

613
00:43:54.840 --> 00:43:56.400
<v Speaker 2>when I should be going to my car?

614
00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:03.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but is very interesting, and I would say, you know,

615
00:44:03.360 --> 00:44:06.880
<v Speaker 1>if you do decide to go back up there, definitely,

616
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:09.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, stay in touch. I would love to hear

617
00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:14.239
<v Speaker 1>you know if something does happen again in that area,

618
00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:17.760
<v Speaker 1>and it would it would be very interesting.

619
00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:22.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're going to invest in some trail cams, and

620
00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:26.559
<v Speaker 2>I know that it's it's probably more just to put

621
00:44:26.679 --> 00:44:31.760
<v Speaker 2>us cities, but I know that these things don't ever

622
00:44:33.039 --> 00:44:37.519
<v Speaker 2>show up on trail cams. But we're gonna probably invest

623
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:40.519
<v Speaker 2>in four of them or so and put them up

624
00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:47.519
<v Speaker 2>in different areas just surrounding camp and whatnot. Just if

625
00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:49.480
<v Speaker 2>they want to stay away from trail cams, if we

626
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<v Speaker 2>surround camp with trail cams, then they won't come into camp.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's that's my mindset. That makes me happy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, if anything, that's that's the easiest way

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<v Speaker 1>to get thing to not come in your camp is

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<v Speaker 1>to put up some game camps, because you know, most

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<v Speaker 1>people think it's it's the IR tends to keep them away.

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<v Speaker 1>And you could always you know, audio recorders are pretty

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<v Speaker 1>inexpensive now. I mean, you can get a task cam

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<v Speaker 1>intro one for I want to say less than one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred now, and that's something you could also have, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in your camp and just recording all night long and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, see if you're able to capture something.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that would be awesome if I could capture

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<v Speaker 2>that screen. I will say, since all this happened, I

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<v Speaker 2>did watch, and I don't. I don't really watch like

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<v Speaker 2>Finding Bigfoot and stuff like that. But there was a

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<v Speaker 2>single episode that aired on TV that took place in

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<v Speaker 2>the same area that we were in. It's just a

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<v Speaker 2>single mountain over from where we were. It's called Jack

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<v Speaker 2>Osborne's Night of car Bigfoot, where he was investigating up

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<v Speaker 2>in the Priest Lake area, which it really is. It's

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<v Speaker 2>only like fifteen miles from where I was camping. And

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<v Speaker 2>towards the end of that episode spoiler for mebody hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>seen it, they do hear a scream way off in

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<v Speaker 2>the distance that doesn't sound unlike what we heard up there,

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<v Speaker 2>So I can't really describe the scream in the capacity

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<v Speaker 2>that we heard it. But on that particular show, they

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<v Speaker 2>did capture something that sounded similar. It wasn't the same,

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<v Speaker 2>very similar, and it's the only thing I've ever heard

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<v Speaker 2>that sounded similar to what we've heard, yea, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was crazy that happened in the same area that we

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<v Speaker 2>were in. So I don't think that goes without.

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<v Speaker 1>Saying, that's that's really interesting. I did not know that

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<v Speaker 1>was the you know, Truth Be Told. I haven't actually

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<v Speaker 1>watched I need to watch that check it out, but

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked to one of the researchers that was involved

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<v Speaker 1>with it, Kevin Llewellen. But yeah, that sounds that's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>that it's it's that close to where you guys were at.

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<v Speaker 1>So definitely have to check that out. I think you

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<v Speaker 1>can listen where you can watch that on like Discovery

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<v Speaker 1>Plus or one of those, you know, type of network

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<v Speaker 1>type deals.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I think it's on Discovery Plus.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, Patrick, I just want to say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for for coming on the show and for

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<v Speaker 1>for sharing what you've experienced so far in this area,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just it seems like such an interesting area.

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<v Speaker 1>There's people listening to this and they've also you know,

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<v Speaker 1>experienced things in the same area.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely encourage people to you know, leave a comment on

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<v Speaker 1>the the video or they can always send me an

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<v Speaker 1>email directly a big Foot Society Gmail dot com. But Swanse,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for for coming on the the show tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>And no, hopefully we'll we'll stay in touch and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows what what you might not might be able

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<v Speaker 1>to be involved with next.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's I'm excited and thank you for for having

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<v Speaker 2>me and allowing me to share my experience. I'm usually

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<v Speaker 2>just a lurker and I watched the podcast and and

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<v Speaker 2>listen to people's stories and just take down the information.

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<v Speaker 2>But as soon as it happened, well I'm always at

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<v Speaker 2>I felt the need to put it out there and

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<v Speaker 2>sort of confirmed that there's something weird happening up there

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden in the past couple of years.

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<v Speaker 2>And the more people that come out and talk about it,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's important all that data, all that information coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely get that. I agree everything every little piece of

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<v Speaker 1>data definitely helps in the long run for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Just wanted to take a few minutes to say thank

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the list. The Subtle Lake area of Oregon, Rainbow, Oregon,

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