Speaker 1: It's nice eyes with Dan Ray. I'm gugging easy Boston's
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Madison. As we reach the midpoint
Speaker 2: of the week and hopefully the end of the warm
Speaker 2: days or the hot days and the hot nights, good evening, everyone,
Speaker 2: and welcome on into a night side. I promise you.
Speaker 2: As the program goes on for the next four hours,
Speaker 2: the temperature will drop in some form of fashion. So
Speaker 2: maybe maybe by midnight you can turn off the air conditioning,
Speaker 2: you can open up the windows and allow God's good
Speaker 2: cool ear to float through your home. Boy, it's been
Speaker 2: a tough couple of days. We at some point we'll
Speaker 2: talk about that this week for certain, But tonight, in
Speaker 2: the first hour, we have four very interesting guests and
Speaker 2: they really range the spectrum. Going to talk with you
Speaker 2: about a disaster that hit the US Marine Corps back
Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy nine, a much forgotten disaster. We'll explain
Speaker 2: how it correlates with what's going on in a run
Speaker 2: right now. Also, we will talk with Miss Massachusetts and
Speaker 2: we're going to give you some tips on a keep
Speaker 2: how to keep your phone from overheating. At nine o'clock,
Speaker 2: we originally thought would be ten o'clock. At nine o'clock,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk with former United States Senator Scott Brown,
Speaker 2: who announced today that he is running for the United
Speaker 2: States Senate seat being vacated by Jean Shaheen due to
Speaker 2: Hampshire Democrat, who Brown not lost to actually in twenty fourteen,
Speaker 2: so he is now going to basically compete for an
Speaker 2: open seat since Shen announced she will retire from the
Speaker 2: US Senate after she finishes this term, so we have
Speaker 2: lots to do. We're also going to talk about the
Speaker 2: call by the jury foreman of the Karen Reid case
Speaker 2: to open a new investigation into what happened to John O'Keeffe.
Speaker 2: I have some strong thoughts on that. I suspect you
Speaker 2: might as well. But we are first going to start
Speaker 2: off tonight and talk with doctor Kelly Fisherman, a veterinary
Speaker 2: sports medicine rehab expert, founder of the Strut Animal Mobility Specialists.
Speaker 2: And the question, doctor Fishman, is how can we tell
Speaker 2: if our pets are having a midlife midlife crisis? And
Speaker 2: why would that question even arise?
Speaker 3: Good evening, how are you good?
Speaker 4: Eavening? So they haven't stolen your credit card to go
Speaker 4: buy a Corvette. That's not the sign.
Speaker 2: Tell you I appreciate that. I'll tell you my late
Speaker 2: grade dog, Charlie, the Cavalier King Charles Spaniel, who was
Speaker 2: I could describe me as a wonder dog. If any
Speaker 2: dog could have been able to steal my credit card
Speaker 2: to buy a corvette, it would have been Charlie. But
Speaker 2: Charlie has based on a few years ago. So it
Speaker 2: sounds to me like this is this is somehow related
Speaker 2: to what happened with COVID, but not necessarily medically.
Speaker 4: So basically what happened is at all, Hello COVID puppies.
Speaker 4: So that puppy boom that we had and so much
Speaker 4: for ave, you know, cares focused on those puppies. Now
Speaker 4: they're all mid life and what does that mean. They're
Speaker 4: about the human age of fifty years old. Things are
Speaker 4: starting to slow down, aging is starting to set in,
Speaker 4: and they're going to just transition into some of their seeingior.
Speaker 2: Years at five years of age. I've always thought that
Speaker 2: dogs correlated one year to seven years, so I would
Speaker 2: I'm assuming that dogs would be I don't know, thirty
Speaker 2: five years old if they're five years have I been misled?
Speaker 2: My entire life?
Speaker 4: Well, the one to seven years things, unfortunately is a myss.
Speaker 4: And then it also I do have to tell you
Speaker 4: because you had a cavalier, so your dog actually didn't
Speaker 4: reach midlife as young. So a dog under fifty pounds
Speaker 4: or cavaliers are Frenchies, they're reaching their midlife around ten,
Speaker 4: so they reached it a little bit later because of
Speaker 4: the different aging rates between our big dogs and our
Speaker 4: smaller dogs. So I'm talking about when our middle You know,
Speaker 4: our dogs are bigger than fifty pounds, Our labs are
Speaker 4: great gains. Those dogs are starting to reach the human
Speaker 4: efuivalent of fifty at five to seven. And then I
Speaker 4: can't forget it about my cats. They're also really reaching
Speaker 4: mid life about seven years old.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's talk generally then, because my great dog
Speaker 2: Charlie only lived ten years, and because calves have a
Speaker 2: relatively shorter lifespan, they have, as I'm sure you as
Speaker 2: a vetinaria no better than I, they have a number
Speaker 2: of problems that hit them, particularly heart issues impact just
Speaker 2: as you know German shepherds have problems with their hips.
Speaker 2: I mean, all of these dogs they are best friends
Speaker 2: and they don't live long enough. And we know that,
Speaker 2: But what would people see what they is? It simply
Speaker 2: a question of slowing down and as opposed to being
Speaker 2: that puppy that what we call runs around the house
Speaker 2: and does zoomis up and down the stairs and just
Speaker 2: seems to be inexhaustible. Now they kind of move it
Speaker 2: a little bit of a slower pace like some of
Speaker 2: us do as we age gracefully.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. So the big signs are less, you know,
Speaker 4: less playful. Maybe they're gaining a little bit of weight,
Speaker 4: slowing down on walks, sleeping more. Those are some of
Speaker 4: the changes that I see in their behavior. Our cats
Speaker 4: are wanting to jump up less, or maybe they're taking
Speaker 4: doing little modifications to avoid doing those big jumps that
Speaker 4: they did when they're kittens, or maybe they're not playing
Speaker 4: as much. So certainly one of those bigger, biggest signs
Speaker 4: is slowing down. And why I get nervous as a
Speaker 4: rehab that is because dogs lose muscle and as they
Speaker 4: age and as they reach midlife, and losing muscle means
Speaker 4: losing strength. Just like us when we're in our fifties,
Speaker 4: we're losing muscle. It's harder to stay fit and stay strong,
Speaker 4: and that's the same thing with our dogs and cats.
Speaker 4: So huge issue.
Speaker 2: So what is there anything that we can do or
Speaker 2: is this just part of the natural aging process? And
Speaker 2: you just want us to be more aware of what
Speaker 2: our dogs and cats. I'm a dog guy, but what
Speaker 2: our pets? All dogs, all pets, pets, they all go
Speaker 2: to heaven. What they're doing in their later years before
Speaker 2: they head off to heaven.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so first of all, be aware because and again
Speaker 4: that's why I love the midlife crisis, calling a midlife
Speaker 4: crisis because we haven't actually reached senior yet or not
Speaker 4: a frail dog or not a frail kitty. We're not
Speaker 4: so painful. But right now in this midlife period, I
Speaker 4: want people to know, first of all, it happens. Second
Speaker 4: of all, there are things you could do for it.
Speaker 4: You can smart supplement to actually make that easy change
Speaker 4: a little bit better. So I kind of have a
Speaker 4: couple suggestions if you want to hear them for people
Speaker 4: who can, you know, do things.
Speaker 2: I have all ears. I am all ears, as as
Speaker 2: is my audience. You have divided all.
Speaker 4: Right, so you know everybody thinks about joint subblements. You
Speaker 4: go to the dog food aisle, it's packed. You know,
Speaker 4: glucosemine conjoint and fish oil. It's confusing. So the most
Speaker 4: evidence we have for joint subblements is omega three fatty acids,
Speaker 4: fish oils from a marine source. A lot of the
Speaker 4: other stuff we don't have great evidence for, so fit
Speaker 4: something like salmon oil great for the joints. All my
Speaker 4: midlife dogs should be on it. The other thing is
Speaker 4: muscle health. They're losing muscles because they're older, or maybe
Speaker 4: they're slowing down because they have issues like a cavalier.
Speaker 4: Sometimes they get back issues, they start to lose muffle
Speaker 4: because of that. Our cats get kidney disease losing muscle.
Speaker 4: So I suggest somebody called portotropin, which has been proven
Speaker 4: in dogs and cats to maintain muscle loss associated with
Speaker 4: aging and injury. And it's someone you could find in
Speaker 4: a mios pet settlement, but it's called portotropin. That's number two.
Speaker 4: The third one is actually probiotics. I think that our
Speaker 4: aging animals need a little bit of digestive support. So
Speaker 4: you know, when they're young, they got to the trash,
Speaker 4: no problems, you know, stomach of steel. And in these days,
Speaker 4: you know they kind of look at a tree the
Speaker 4: wrong way or it's not their favorite treat, and you
Speaker 4: know it's bad news. So I love doing probiotics. And
Speaker 4: my only tip for the probiotics out there, because there
Speaker 4: are a couple of good brands, is make sure it's
Speaker 4: the one that's made for a dog or a cat.
Speaker 4: So you can't use anything for humans. So just make
Speaker 4: sure it's a dog or cat probiotic and it works
Speaker 4: for your pet.
Speaker 2: Well, those are all great suggestions. I know with my cavalier,
Speaker 2: I used to have him bench press a little bit
Speaker 2: and it worked out. Not heavyweights, to do about fifty pounds,
Speaker 2: you know, and you know, ten reps at a time
Speaker 2: and I'd spot him and it was fine. He enjoyed
Speaker 2: that they only getting only getting bill.
Speaker 4: You listen, you also don't forget the core. That's the
Speaker 4: most important part.
Speaker 2: Oh. Absolutely, the sit ups were terrible anyway. Doctor Kelly Fishman,
Speaker 2: veterinary sports medicine rehab expert. What's your website and folks,
Speaker 2: in case folks want to check in with you, give
Speaker 2: us a website.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Dan, So it's strut. So I always think of
Speaker 4: a happy dog or cat strugging, so st r ut
Speaker 4: animal dot com. I have a couple of recommendations for
Speaker 4: the supplements that I talked about today, fish oil, Forto,
Speaker 4: tropen probiotics, all of them on my website. And yeah,
Speaker 4: that's it.
Speaker 2: Perfect, Doctor Fishman, Thank you very much. I think veterinarians
Speaker 2: are special people because they take care of the most
Speaker 2: special people in our lives. Our pets do become members
Speaker 2: of the family, there's no question about it. Thanks so much,
Speaker 2: doctor Fishman. Appreciate your time.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: All right, good night. When we get back, we're going
Speaker 2: to talk about a horrific event that occurred in nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy nine and it's a fascinating book. I talked with
Speaker 2: the author today and I have him on tonight because
Speaker 2: the book has just come out. It's called The Fuji Fire,
Speaker 2: Sifty Ashes of a Forgotten Newest Marine Corps Tragedy. Where
Speaker 2: do you hear this story? I think many of you
Speaker 2: are going to want to purchase this book or order
Speaker 2: it from Amazon. We'll be back on Nightside right after
Speaker 2: this with Chas Henry, a former marine by the way,
Speaker 2: who wrote this book and has chronicled this tremendous and
Speaker 2: unnecessary loss of young US marines back in nineteen seventy nine.
Speaker 2: And I will connect it to what's going on in Iran,
Speaker 2: in Iraq and all of that in the Middle East.
Speaker 2: Right after this break.
Speaker 1: You're on Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZY, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Forty five years ago is a long time, obviously, it
Speaker 2: was forty five years ago in November that the US
Speaker 2: Embassy was taken captive by followers of the Ayatola Homeni.
Speaker 2: That story dominated the news for four hundred and forty
Speaker 2: four days as our hostages were held in captivity in Tehran.
Speaker 2: There was a tragedy that occurred just a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks before that at a marine base in near Mount Fuji,
Speaker 2: a marine training camp near Mount Fuji on October nineteenth,
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy nine. It was a huge story, took the
Speaker 2: lives of some young marines and badly scarred and burned others.
Speaker 2: And to refresh your recollection, this is what Walter Cronkite
Speaker 2: reported on CBS Evening News October twenty second, nineteen seventy nine.
Speaker 5: Friday, a typhoon toppled a huge fuel storage tank at
Speaker 5: the base of Mount Fuji in Japan. The resulting fire
Speaker 5: swept the US Marines barracks there. One marine died instantly,
Speaker 5: but to day, it turns out the tragedy was greater
Speaker 5: than it first reported. Thirty seven badly burned Marines nineteen
Speaker 5: have less than a fifty to fifty chance of survival.
Speaker 2: Joining me is the author of a book Fuji Fire,
Speaker 2: Sifting Ashes of a Forgotten US Marine Corps Tragedy. Chas Henry,
Speaker 2: an author, also a journalist, but even more importantly, a
Speaker 2: twenty year Marine Corps veteran, and in an article that
Speaker 2: was written by Jim Webb himself a former Marine who
Speaker 2: served in the Vietnam, former US Secretary of the Navy,
Speaker 2: and a US Senator from Virginia, Jim Webb Webb wrote,
Speaker 2: the complexity of this story makes it exceedingly difficult to
Speaker 2: tell till now. It has been little remembered and in
Speaker 2: frequently taught in our military academies. Mister Henry's scholarly rigor
Speaker 2: knowledge of the military and storytelling skill may at last
Speaker 2: change that. Delighted to introduce to all of you, Chas Henry, Chas,
Speaker 2: Welcome to Night Side.
Speaker 3: How are you so, I'm well, Dan, Thanks so much
Speaker 3: for the opportunity to talk about something that may well
Speaker 3: be the US Marine Corps worst ever peacetime tragedy, but
Speaker 3: is largely forgotten.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, of course we often think of the US
Speaker 2: Marines who are killed in the Beirut bomb blast, but
Speaker 2: that was something that was man made. This was finally
Speaker 2: determined to be an act of God. But there may
Speaker 2: have been some judgments that were made by the higher
Speaker 2: ups in the Marine for having these these fuel facilities
Speaker 2: higher than the base camp set the stage for as
Speaker 2: you know more about this story, probably than anyone, So
Speaker 2: I want to listen. And by the way, we will
Speaker 2: probably revisit this in longer form sometime in the next
Speaker 2: a week and a half or so. Go right ahead, Chazz.
Speaker 3: Sure. So this is a lower sloping land. This is
Speaker 3: near the base of Mount Fuji, and they are about
Speaker 3: twelve hundred marines of this training camp. They'd come up
Speaker 3: from units in Okinawa to train big open spaces and ranges.
Speaker 3: Fuel bladders in rubberized fabric bladders were placed uphill of
Speaker 3: where these marines were living in ramshackle quantt huts. And
Speaker 3: a storm here, not just any storm, but this is
Speaker 3: the still standing record the largest most intense typhoon ever,
Speaker 3: Typhoon Tip in nineteen seventy nine if you had taken
Speaker 3: it and places over the continental United States at its height,
Speaker 3: it would have covered between half and two thirds of
Speaker 3: the nation. It goes over the mainland. Japan drops more
Speaker 3: rain in a day than they typically would get in
Speaker 3: a month, and this created a breach in a berm
Speaker 3: that had been built up around these fuel bladders. One
Speaker 3: of the bladders, filled with gasoline flows into the berm.
Speaker 3: Pumps that are still attached by hoses fall in and
Speaker 3: they slice a five foot slice in this bladder. Ballons
Speaker 3: of gasoline flows downhill on top of this flood that's
Speaker 3: already going into the quantu huts that are heated by
Speaker 3: open flame kerosene heaters, and as you might imagine, vapors
Speaker 3: rise and fire breaks out. In the end, seventy three
Speaker 3: people were injured, of whom fifty four were burned, and
Speaker 3: over the next several weeks, thirteen died from those injuries.
Speaker 2: And you've been in touch with a lot of these
Speaker 2: You've dedicated. I believe it was four years of your
Speaker 2: life to writing this book, right.
Speaker 3: I fell into it during the pandemic in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: I was looking for something to do. I just retired
Speaker 3: from daily journalism and I never would have imagined it
Speaker 3: became what it did. But it involved interviewing more than
Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty people with direct firsthand experience of
Speaker 3: the events, and a continuum that included describing the storm,
Speaker 3: the events of the day at the camp, and then
Speaker 3: a long range of heroic and dedicated medical evacuation and
Speaker 3: treatment provided to these marines, and meeting many of these marines,
Speaker 3: and hearing quite a number of really phenomenal, inspiring survivor stories.
Speaker 2: How difficult was it to track these men down? Obviously,
Speaker 2: this is in nineteen seventy nine. You start out on
Speaker 2: your pursuit of this story forty years later, so I
Speaker 2: assume many of them may have passed away. Above and
Speaker 2: beyond those who were killed in this horrific event. Was
Speaker 2: the Marine Corps? Was the Defense Department cooperative with you
Speaker 2: and said, oh, yeah, this is where these folks now live.
Speaker 2: How did you track them down? That's a journalist question
Speaker 2: to another journalist.
Speaker 6: It was.
Speaker 3: A challenge, and that made it kind of exciting. So
Speaker 3: there was a copy of the investigation that was done
Speaker 3: that was sort of floating around. It was highly redacted.
Speaker 3: I got a copy of that early on, but I came.
Speaker 3: Within the first few months of starting the research. I
Speaker 3: realized that a friend of mine in nineteen eighty six
Speaker 3: had filed the freedom of in act request thinking that
Speaker 3: he might write something about this, and he received about
Speaker 3: three quarters of an inch worth of photocopied materials to
Speaker 3: include a mostly non redacted version of the investigation. Well,
Speaker 3: between the two that I had, I was able to
Speaker 3: page by page reconstruct a completely non redacted investigation. What
Speaker 3: that allowed me was names names were not crossed out,
Speaker 3: and fortunately not everybody's name was John Jones or Bob Smith.
Speaker 3: There were some that had sufficiently unique names that using
Speaker 3: search engines now people searches online, I would find perhaps
Speaker 3: five or six people that seemed to have that name,
Speaker 3: maybe were about the right age. And I spent a
Speaker 3: lot of money. My wife complained about all the stamps
Speaker 3: I bought sending out letters probably for the first year,
Speaker 3: and eventually I started to get letters back, and that
Speaker 3: led me to conduct the interviews, and then sometimes people
Speaker 3: would say, well, I'm still in touch with this.
Speaker 2: Other person who was there.
Speaker 3: But it was a slow start, but very encouraging as
Speaker 3: it's sort of you know, the number of recipients to
Speaker 3: those letters grew well.
Speaker 2: I assume that a lot of these men not only
Speaker 2: wanted the story told for themselves and to have a
Speaker 2: record of it, but also in memory of the young
Speaker 2: Marines who died or were severely injured in this this disaster.
Speaker 3: It's true. So this is largely forgotten, and you know,
Speaker 3: the principal reason is because you know, just two weeks
Speaker 3: later the hostage is taken and around the national attention shifts.
Speaker 3: There was also some reticence on the part of the
Speaker 3: Marine Corps to talk about it. So this hasn't appeared
Speaker 3: in you know, many histories of the Marine Corps and such.
Speaker 3: I had an email just the other day from someone
Speaker 3: who was not involved. I didn't interview for the book,
Speaker 3: but I had an email through my website from a
Speaker 3: fellow who said that because we never read about this,
Speaker 3: we feel almost ashamed and asking themselves, you know, did
Speaker 3: we do something wrong? And it was this motivation over
Speaker 3: time that inspired me to keep going with this project.
Speaker 3: These guys were all about my age, the younger guys.
Speaker 3: It was really amazing. There were certainly people who had
Speaker 3: passed on subsequently, but I was able to interview even
Speaker 3: one guy who was a brigadier general in nineteen seventy nine.
Speaker 3: He since passed away, but I was able to interview
Speaker 3: him a couple of years ago and got some very
Speaker 3: interesting useful.
Speaker 2: Was that General Robert Barrow.
Speaker 3: No, General Barrow had passed away some time before. This
Speaker 3: was Joe mcmonagall, who was an assistant division commander in Okinawa,
Speaker 3: who came up the day after the fire to sort
Speaker 3: of see what was happening, and so to get his
Speaker 3: perspective on what he saw was very useful. And his
Speaker 3: observations about the leadership and what marines were asking him
Speaker 3: and such a lot of guys were about my age,
Speaker 3: and so I called it, in fact, my first two
Speaker 3: years of of doing these interviews, my two years of
Speaker 3: crying with other men in their sixties.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I'll tell you the military often what do
Speaker 2: they say, you know, victory has a thousand mothers and
Speaker 2: defeat or disasters an orphan. One of my closest friends
Speaker 2: in the world was the commander of the U. S. S. Pueblo,
Speaker 2: Pete Booker Lloyd Right. And someday when we talk as
Speaker 2: we did earlier today, I will tell you the story
Speaker 2: of they tried to court martial Commander Booker. That was
Speaker 2: prevented by the Secretary of Navy John Chafey, and then
Speaker 2: they tried to prevent giving POW medals to the crew
Speaker 2: of the Preblo. I got involved in that as a
Speaker 2: lawyer back in the nineteen eighties, and the story of
Speaker 2: what happened to the crew of the Preblo for eleven
Speaker 2: months in captivity in North Korea. The Preblo is now
Speaker 2: the only US naval warship in the hands of the enemy,
Speaker 2: is on display in peong Pang, North Korea. But as
Speaker 2: I was reading the materials that you said me, there
Speaker 2: were a lot of similarities to what happened to the
Speaker 2: men of the Pueblo. They were promised air support which
Speaker 2: never came, and they as a results, spent eleven months
Speaker 2: in very tough captivity. So it was also about ten years.
Speaker 2: January twenty third to December twenty third of nineteen sixty
Speaker 2: eight became a big issue in the sixty eighth presidential campaign.
Speaker 2: But there should have been some heads that rolled on
Speaker 2: this one, and I'm looking forward. The book has just
Speaker 2: come out. It's published by Nebraska Press. I believe is
Speaker 2: that the public publisher.
Speaker 3: University of Nebraska Press, it's on their Potomac Books in print.
Speaker 2: Okay, so Amazon easy to get. I assume at this
Speaker 2: point came out just this month, yes, but not mistaken.
Speaker 3: In fact, there's a hard hardcover kindle and an audiobook.
Speaker 2: Really an audiobook as well. Okay, that is fabulous. Give
Speaker 2: us the title one more time. I've read it a
Speaker 2: couple of times. I want to hear it from you.
Speaker 3: Thank you. It's Fujifire Sifting Ashes of a Forgotten US
Speaker 3: Marine Corps Tragedy.
Speaker 2: Boy, that is a perfect, perfect title, Chas. We will
Speaker 2: do a longer interview on this, but I wanted to
Speaker 2: get something on the air, and I appreciate you being
Speaker 2: available tonight in such short notice. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: We're talking the next couple of days.
Speaker 3: I'm so grateful for your time and interesting.
Speaker 2: Thank you all right, Chas Henry the author of Fujifire
Speaker 2: Sifting Ashes of a Forgotten US Marine Corps Tragedy. When
Speaker 2: we get back, we're going to talk. Some of you
Speaker 2: might have experienced this today. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 2: I think Chas actually experienced when I was talking with
Speaker 2: five tips to keep your phone from overheating. We will
Speaker 2: be right back on night's side, Keep with us, Stay
Speaker 2: with us. We've got a very interesting show coming up
Speaker 2: for you tonight. Scott Brown will join us at after
Speaker 2: nine o'clock and then we're going to talk about the
Speaker 2: call and the jury foreman of the Karen Reid trial
Speaker 2: for a complete from from just from the get go
Speaker 2: investigation of the death of the tragic death of John O'Keefe.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that that is doable legally, and I'm
Speaker 2: not even sure that it's wise, but I suspect all
Speaker 2: of you have some different points of vie. Owner. Here
Speaker 2: comes the news at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2: Like to welcome Peter Nixon. He's the director of retail
Speaker 2: sales in the North Northeaster for AT and T, and
Speaker 2: Peter has five tips to keep your phone from overheating. Peter,
Speaker 2: where were you two nights ago? Only kiddy.
Speaker 6: Dan, I know you cover some pretty heavy subjects, So
Speaker 6: this this you gotta pay attention going into this one.
Speaker 2: I will, I promise I pay attention to all the subjects,
Speaker 2: trust me.
Speaker 6: So here's some simple facts to help you with your phone.
Speaker 6: Number one, Like, let let's use common sense and keep
Speaker 6: it out of direct sunlight. So a lot of times
Speaker 6: if we're in the car and we take it, we
Speaker 6: throw our phone on the dashboard, that sun comes in,
Speaker 6: heaps up your phone. Next thing you know, your phone's
Speaker 6: making funny noises and it's telling you that you know
Speaker 6: it's not gonna work. It's gonna shut down because it's
Speaker 6: too hot. So if you have your phone in the car,
Speaker 6: keep it in a shaded spot whenever possible.
Speaker 2: By the way, kids, sunlight and heat like we've experienced
Speaker 2: the last couple of days, could that actually kill a phone.
Speaker 6: It can damage it, meaning it'll shut down, and who
Speaker 6: knows what damage it does to the phone it shuts down. Okay,
Speaker 6: so we always Another thing we say is avoid overuse
Speaker 6: in the heat. And what do I mean by overuse gaming?
Speaker 6: I know you and I are probably very big gamers,
Speaker 6: but our kids are.
Speaker 2: There sadly, sadly, but no, I'm not. Go ahead.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So as the game it heats up the processors,
Speaker 6: it makes it hotter. Video streaming, if you're on there
Speaker 6: checking Facebook video streams, that also makes it hotter. And then,
Speaker 6: believe it or not, if you're in the car using GPS,
Speaker 6: A lot of times can can make the phone hot,
Speaker 6: and we'll limit you know, limit the the way that
Speaker 6: it works. So you got to giff on that and
Speaker 6: watch it. So watch your high temperatures outside.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 6: Then if it does start to heat up and you
Speaker 6: start to see warnings on it, because most phones will
Speaker 6: give you a little warning, some simple things you can do,
Speaker 6: like take it out of the case because the case
Speaker 6: acts like a blanket and it keeps the warmth and
Speaker 6: the phone. So if you take it off, it should
Speaker 6: start to cool down a little bit.
Speaker 2: One thing you should never do is put it in
Speaker 2: ice water. Correct, I just want to make make it
Speaker 2: make it clear on that, right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, don't put it in the freezer, put it in
Speaker 6: a refrigerator, don't put it in nice water.
Speaker 2: Okay, what else?
Speaker 6: Yeah, so we say let it cool naturally. Right, if
Speaker 6: your phone overheats, power it down, let it rest in
Speaker 6: a cool spot. And we always say never put it
Speaker 6: in the fridge or a freezer. Let it return to
Speaker 6: its natural state naturally. So some common sense tips, but
Speaker 6: I think it's happened to all of us that our
Speaker 6: phone is overheated.
Speaker 2: I think also there was some tips to disable Bluetooth,
Speaker 2: Wi Fi and background apps when not in use to
Speaker 2: reduce strain on your device. We have all become so
Speaker 2: dependent upon our phones, and we I I like everyone else.
Speaker 2: Probably you don't. You don't realize the miracle you You
Speaker 2: take it for granted that you can be standing in
Speaker 2: so many different places. I mean, I'm old enough to
Speaker 2: remember pay phones. I'm old enough to remember rotary dial phones.
Speaker 2: And yes, I know you you should look. I should
Speaker 2: look at my phone every day and say, this is
Speaker 2: a miracle that in my hand I have all the
Speaker 2: phone numbers. Remember, I had no idea how old you are, Peter,
Speaker 2: but I suspect that you probably used to be able
Speaker 2: to remember phone numbers. Yeah, that was not uncommon. I
Speaker 2: would have like probably fifty numbers in my head of
Speaker 2: my friends and all of that. I still remember, you know,
Speaker 2: the work numbers, businesses that you're called. Now, I have
Speaker 2: a tough time, right, we've trained ourselves not to remember.
Speaker 2: Or is that just the process of getting older?
Speaker 6: Do you think? Oh? No, I think you're right on
Speaker 6: the money. You remember, you hear the phone number when
Speaker 6: you put it into your memory in your phone, and
Speaker 6: then you never think of it again. You look up
Speaker 6: Dan Ray Nightside and I hit send, and that's how
Speaker 6: I get you. I don't look up I don't look
Speaker 6: up your phone number.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So that's why it's important to have cloud backup because
Speaker 6: we probably all lost phones too, and how devastated we
Speaker 6: are when we lose a phone and all those numbers,
Speaker 6: all those pictures go with it unless you use some
Speaker 6: sort of storage or some sort of backup.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I've had that experience, unfortunately. But what is amazing
Speaker 2: to me is I have been in Europe and have
Speaker 2: called friends of mine in the middle of the country,
Speaker 2: meaning in Kansas, from Europe, and it sounds like they're
Speaker 2: standing next to you.
Speaker 6: It's crazy.
Speaker 2: And I can remember as a as a young television reporter,
Speaker 2: having to find payphones to go through your pocket with
Speaker 2: dimes so you could call the desk and let them
Speaker 2: know that you were, you know, and then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden you had some phones in the in the vans,
Speaker 2: and again we just become so used to it. It's
Speaker 2: almost like refrigeration during the summer. You know, most of
Speaker 2: us are lucky enough to have a refrigerator. So you
Speaker 2: go down and you want to have a hold, can't
Speaker 2: a twelve hours refreshment watching the ball game, and you know,
Speaker 2: you just you know, in the old days when people
Speaker 2: didn't have refrigerators, they had to walk all the way
Speaker 2: down to the corner right.
Speaker 6: It's you think about a lot of times. I've kept
Speaker 6: this in my mind before you even walk out the
Speaker 6: door in the morning. A lot of us don't realize
Speaker 6: how much we depend on our phone. It wakes us
Speaker 6: up as an alarm clock. If you have a home alarm,
Speaker 6: you can shut it off right from your handset. So
Speaker 6: you shut off the home alarm in your house, you
Speaker 6: may go get a cup of coffee and use it
Speaker 6: at your favorite establishment to buy that cup of coffee.
Speaker 6: It's just endless. If you leave your phone at home,
Speaker 6: it's a tough day.
Speaker 2: Oh or if you if you do misplace it and
Speaker 2: and you're and you're in a panic. I'm always trying
Speaker 2: when did when did I last use my phone? Where
Speaker 2: was I? Was I in the car? Was I downstairs?
Speaker 2: Was I down cellarted? I just think that they are
Speaker 2: a modern miracle. There's a lot of things that are miraculous.
Speaker 2: The automobiles a miracle. We used to have horse and buggy,
Speaker 2: but we take phones for granted. And thank you for
Speaker 2: what you guys, do you know keeping keeping those phones
Speaker 2: working for us at AT and T, Verizon or whomever
Speaker 2: your phone service happens to be provided by. Thanks for
Speaker 2: the suggestions I had one other questions. First, was set
Speaker 2: up through a public relations manager named Karen Toomey at
Speaker 2: AT and T Corporate Communications. Is that the same Karen
Speaker 2: to me here?
Speaker 6: It sure is?
Speaker 2: Well. Please give her my best.
Speaker 6: Will Dan. And one funny story when she said started
Speaker 6: working for us. We're in a meeting and I said
Speaker 6: to her, Karen, can you do me one favor before
Speaker 6: we leave the meeting? Can you just say and this
Speaker 6: is Karen Toomey for w b Z And she.
Speaker 2: Did, Dad. Well, she's she's a great reporter, great colleague.
Speaker 2: Our losses as AT and T's gain. And if she's
Speaker 2: not listening, please let her know that she's remembered well
Speaker 2: in the busy newsroom.
Speaker 6: Okay, I sure will, Dan. Thanks your nice talking.
Speaker 2: You, thank you very much, Talk soon, all right, good night?
Speaker 2: All right. We got one more guest coming up, and
Speaker 2: I wish this was television. It's Miss Massachusetts, the newly
Speaker 2: crowned Miss Massachusetts. Will join us on the phone and
Speaker 2: we will talk with her about becoming Miss Massachusetts. Her
Speaker 2: name is Kayla Griffin, and we'll talk with Kayla Griffin
Speaker 2: and some causes that she is working. She works hard
Speaker 2: on behalf of Right after this quick break on Nightside.
Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: All right, I am delighted to introduce to my audience
Speaker 2: the you, Miss Massachusetts, Cayla Griffin, Miss Massachusetts, Kyla Griffin,
Speaker 2: Welcome to Nightside. How are you hi?
Speaker 5: I'm good.
Speaker 7: How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm wonderful. So tell us a little bit about how
Speaker 2: you were. You were named Miss Massachusetts, I believe as
Speaker 2: recently as last weekend.
Speaker 7: Yes, well, firstly, thank you for having me. I'm excited
Speaker 7: to be here, Miss Massachusetts.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 7: Miss Massachusetts was this past weekend and I was crowned
Speaker 7: on Saturday. So it's still very very fresh for me.
Speaker 7: And it was a long week, but it was so
Speaker 7: worth it and I had a great time.
Speaker 2: Now you will serve as Miss Massachusetts for a year.
Speaker 2: And I guess one of the issues that you're very
Speaker 2: concerned about is homelessness here in Massachusetts. How did you
Speaker 2: get interested in that issue in the first place? I said,
Speaker 2: give us an idea about what you hope to do.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So, like you said, I will be serving as
Speaker 7: Miss Massachusetts for an entire year. And in the Miss
Speaker 7: America Opportunity Organization, we have something called a Community Service Initiative,
Speaker 7: and mine is the Purple Blueprint creating solutions for unhoused Americans.
Speaker 7: So I'm currently a healthcare worker and it kind of
Speaker 7: started during covid Era when I was working at the
Speaker 7: hospital and a lot of our unhoused community members would
Speaker 7: come in and I really dawned on me how vulnerable
Speaker 7: this population is and the little platforms that they have,
Speaker 7: and I just figured, you know, if I have a
Speaker 7: voice and I have the means, I should do something
Speaker 7: about this. So that's kind of what got me started.
Speaker 7: And ever since then, I've been trying to figure out
Speaker 7: ways to help our housing crisis and our homelessness crisis.
Speaker 7: And once I was crowned Miss Cambridge first this year,
Speaker 7: I decided I really wanted to start that because there's
Speaker 7: a lot going on in Cambridge and Boston with this,
Speaker 7: and now that I am in Massachusetts, my hope is
Speaker 7: that I can further elevate my platform really work with
Speaker 7: a lot of organizations. When I volunteer with weekly right
Speaker 7: now as horizons for homeless children. They are amazing and
Speaker 7: my goal is to make some change and work with
Speaker 7: policy leaders and local and state officials as well.
Speaker 2: Now you're a graduate of Northeastern University and you said
Speaker 2: you work in the healthcare industry.
Speaker 7: Yes, so, go Huskies. I graduated from Northeastern in twenty
Speaker 7: twenty two and now I work at mass General Hospital
Speaker 7: in downtown, So that's kind of been my shift since
Speaker 7: post graduation.
Speaker 2: And great facility. What do you do there? If I could,
Speaker 2: Are you on the floor, are you work What exactly
Speaker 2: do you do at Mass General?
Speaker 7: Yes? Yeah, so I used to work on the floor
Speaker 7: at Beth Israel as a patient care technician, and now
Speaker 7: I do cardio vascular research through the Cardio Center at
Speaker 7: Mass General. So I do a lot of lab works.
Speaker 7: It's really exciting and interesting, and I've partnered with the
Speaker 7: American Heart Association through both my job and as a
Speaker 7: titleholder now is miss Massachusetts. So I'm an advocate for
Speaker 7: heart health and we do a lot of cool nerdy
Speaker 7: stuff figuring out.
Speaker 6: Ways to you.
Speaker 2: That's greatcation comes helps all of us. And by the way,
Speaker 2: I noticed that you were crowned last Saturday at the
Speaker 2: Hanover Theater, which is a beautiful facility in Worcester. You
Speaker 2: said at one point you would miss Worcester. Did you
Speaker 2: grow up in Worcester?
Speaker 7: No, I didn't, But Worcester was actually the first title
Speaker 7: I've ever had, So sometimes you can go to different
Speaker 7: pageants in the state even if you're not from there,
Speaker 7: as long as you're a resident of Massachusetts. Yeah, but
Speaker 7: Hanover is incredible.
Speaker 3: I love everyone there, so yeah.
Speaker 2: Great facility. I remember being there for a program helping
Speaker 2: kids with autism. Back this is going to be be
Speaker 2: pre pandemic. So tell me a little bit more about yourself.
Speaker 2: Did you grow up obviously in Massachusetts.
Speaker 7: Actually it didn't. I was a military kid, so I
Speaker 7: grew up everywhere. Okay, yeah, my dad was in the
Speaker 7: Air Force, so I grew up all over the place.
Speaker 7: But Massachusetts, I always say, is a state that raised
Speaker 7: me because I came here when I was seventeen, eighteen
Speaker 7: years old, and I've been here ever since. Itce the
Speaker 7: longest place I've ever been consecutively, and it's been home
Speaker 7: for a near a decade now. So I love Massachusetts
Speaker 7: and it's given.
Speaker 3: Me so much.
Speaker 2: Does your dad still active duty?
Speaker 7: No, he retired, so he is a veteran now and
Speaker 7: my parents currently are in Virginia.
Speaker 2: Well, when you talk to you dad, thank him for
Speaker 2: his service to our country. I must tell you that
Speaker 2: I am always so impressed. I know the word is
Speaker 2: military brats, and I know that's not a nice him necessarily,
Speaker 2: but I am so impressed with young people like yourself
Speaker 2: who not only come from families with the military background,
Speaker 2: because I'm sure the dad is still a lot of
Speaker 2: discipline in the home. But in addition to oh yeah,
Speaker 2: you have to when you're a member, your mom and
Speaker 2: your dad is in the military, and you're moving around,
Speaker 2: making new friends, adjusting to new places, new climates, sometimes overseas,
Speaker 2: sometimes back here in the States. It's a great challenge,
Speaker 2: and I think that it's real blessing for someone to
Speaker 2: experience that, because you've already seen large a large swath
Speaker 2: of this country, and you've all probably also seen a
Speaker 2: little bit of the world that most kids who are
Speaker 2: your age, young people who are your age, have yet
Speaker 2: to have a chance to see. Now you're going to
Speaker 2: be competing in the Miss America competition in September. I'm
Speaker 2: in Orlando, Florida. Tell us about that because I know
Speaker 2: that that that's I hope it's still published televised nationally
Speaker 2: and then we'll be able to watch this competition. Tell
Speaker 2: us how how much of what? What do you have
Speaker 2: to do and prep for that other than I guess
Speaker 2: show up and be smart, smart and look sharp.
Speaker 7: Well, yes, I'm so excited. It's going to be in Orlando,
Speaker 7: Florida in September. And yeah, the preparation is just a
Speaker 7: lot of activism in my community because I just want
Speaker 7: to show the country what Massachusetts is made of, Like
Speaker 7: this is who we are. And of course, you know,
Speaker 7: like making sure your mind is right and you've got
Speaker 7: your style down and your dresses and your talent and
Speaker 7: and all of that. So there's interview proportions as well.
Speaker 7: So just being fully prepared and going to have a
Speaker 7: good time and meet a bunch of really incredible women.
Speaker 2: What when you when you talk about you have to
Speaker 2: do some sort of a musical instrument if I'm not correct,
Speaker 2: or sing or dance or something. What?
Speaker 6: Yes, what is that's?
Speaker 2: Is that called the talent? I just don't want to
Speaker 2: misname it. What is that called?
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, you got it? Yeah, that's the talent portion.
Speaker 7: So we have different sections. We have on stage question talent, fitness,
Speaker 7: evening gown, and then we do a private interview. Okay,
Speaker 7: so talent, I play the piano.
Speaker 2: You play it. Oh my god, you do it all,
Speaker 2: you do it all.
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, no, I love piano.
Speaker 2: Miss Massachusetts, twenty twenty five. Congratulations, Kaylae. You sound obviously
Speaker 2: you are a very beautiful young woman, but you also
Speaker 2: seem to exude all the qualities of someone who's both
Speaker 2: beautiful externally but also internally.
Speaker 7: And oh, thank you you you.
Speaker 2: Are bright as a north star. So thank you so
Speaker 2: much for and best of luck. Not to much, no,
Speaker 2: but you have a great time and have fun and
Speaker 2: bring home one more crown.
Speaker 7: Okay, I'll do it all right, Thank you guys so
Speaker 7: much for having me.
Speaker 2: You're very welcome, Kayla Griffin, Miss Massachusetts, with a platform
Speaker 2: focused on solutions for homelessness, or as they are currently called,
Speaker 2: the unhoused. My name's Dan Ray. We're going to be
Speaker 2: back with former Massachusetts senator now Republican candidate for the
Speaker 2: US Senator in New Hampshire, Scott Brown, and he'll be
Speaker 2: taking your phone call, so line up your questions. Coming
Speaker 2: back on night side right after this