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<v Speaker 1>It's nice eyes with Dan Ray. I'm gugging easy Boston's

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<v Speaker 1>News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much, Madison. As we reach the midpoint

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<v Speaker 2>of the week and hopefully the end of the warm

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<v Speaker 2>days or the hot days and the hot nights, good evening, everyone,

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<v Speaker 2>and welcome on into a night side. I promise you.

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<v Speaker 2>As the program goes on for the next four hours,

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<v Speaker 2>the temperature will drop in some form of fashion. So

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<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe by midnight you can turn off the air conditioning,

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<v Speaker 2>you can open up the windows and allow God's good

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<v Speaker 2>cool ear to float through your home. Boy, it's been

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<v Speaker 2>a tough couple of days. We at some point we'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk about that this week for certain, But tonight, in

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<v Speaker 2>the first hour, we have four very interesting guests and

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<v Speaker 2>they really range the spectrum. Going to talk with you

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<v Speaker 2>about a disaster that hit the US Marine Corps back

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen seventy nine, a much forgotten disaster. We'll explain

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<v Speaker 2>how it correlates with what's going on in a run

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<v Speaker 2>right now. Also, we will talk with Miss Massachusetts and

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to give you some tips on a keep

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<v Speaker 2>how to keep your phone from overheating. At nine o'clock,

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<v Speaker 2>we originally thought would be ten o'clock. At nine o'clock,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk with former United States Senator Scott Brown,

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<v Speaker 2>who announced today that he is running for the United

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<v Speaker 2>States Senate seat being vacated by Jean Shaheen due to

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<v Speaker 2>Hampshire Democrat, who Brown not lost to actually in twenty fourteen,

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<v Speaker 2>so he is now going to basically compete for an

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<v Speaker 2>open seat since Shen announced she will retire from the

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<v Speaker 2>US Senate after she finishes this term, so we have

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<v Speaker 2>lots to do. We're also going to talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>call by the jury foreman of the Karen Reid case

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<v Speaker 2>to open a new investigation into what happened to John O'Keeffe.

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<v Speaker 2>I have some strong thoughts on that. I suspect you

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<v Speaker 2>might as well. But we are first going to start

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<v Speaker 2>off tonight and talk with doctor Kelly Fisherman, a veterinary

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<v Speaker 2>sports medicine rehab expert, founder of the Strut Animal Mobility Specialists.

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<v Speaker 2>And the question, doctor Fishman, is how can we tell

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<v Speaker 2>if our pets are having a midlife midlife crisis? And

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<v Speaker 2>why would that question even arise?

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<v Speaker 3>Good evening, how are you good?

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<v Speaker 4>Eavening? So they haven't stolen your credit card to go

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<v Speaker 4>buy a Corvette. That's not the sign.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell you I appreciate that. I'll tell you my late

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<v Speaker 2>grade dog, Charlie, the Cavalier King Charles Spaniel, who was

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<v Speaker 2>I could describe me as a wonder dog. If any

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<v Speaker 2>dog could have been able to steal my credit card

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<v Speaker 2>to buy a corvette, it would have been Charlie. But

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie has based on a few years ago. So it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds to me like this is this is somehow related

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<v Speaker 2>to what happened with COVID, but not necessarily medically.

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<v Speaker 4>So basically what happened is at all, Hello COVID puppies.

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<v Speaker 4>So that puppy boom that we had and so much

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<v Speaker 4>for ave, you know, cares focused on those puppies. Now

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<v Speaker 4>they're all mid life and what does that mean. They're

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<v Speaker 4>about the human age of fifty years old. Things are

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<v Speaker 4>starting to slow down, aging is starting to set in,

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<v Speaker 4>and they're going to just transition into some of their seeingior.

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<v Speaker 2>Years at five years of age. I've always thought that

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<v Speaker 2>dogs correlated one year to seven years, so I would

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<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming that dogs would be I don't know, thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five years old if they're five years have I been misled?

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<v Speaker 2>My entire life?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the one to seven years things, unfortunately is a myss.

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<v Speaker 4>And then it also I do have to tell you

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<v Speaker 4>because you had a cavalier, so your dog actually didn't

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<v Speaker 4>reach midlife as young. So a dog under fifty pounds

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<v Speaker 4>or cavaliers are Frenchies, they're reaching their midlife around ten,

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<v Speaker 4>so they reached it a little bit later because of

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<v Speaker 4>the different aging rates between our big dogs and our

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<v Speaker 4>smaller dogs. So I'm talking about when our middle You know,

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<v Speaker 4>our dogs are bigger than fifty pounds, Our labs are

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<v Speaker 4>great gains. Those dogs are starting to reach the human

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<v Speaker 4>efuivalent of fifty at five to seven. And then I

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<v Speaker 4>can't forget it about my cats. They're also really reaching

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<v Speaker 4>mid life about seven years old.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so let's talk generally then, because my great dog

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie only lived ten years, and because calves have a

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<v Speaker 2>relatively shorter lifespan, they have, as I'm sure you as

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<v Speaker 2>a vetinaria no better than I, they have a number

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<v Speaker 2>of problems that hit them, particularly heart issues impact just

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<v Speaker 2>as you know German shepherds have problems with their hips.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, all of these dogs they are best friends

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<v Speaker 2>and they don't live long enough. And we know that,

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<v Speaker 2>But what would people see what they is? It simply

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<v Speaker 2>a question of slowing down and as opposed to being

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<v Speaker 2>that puppy that what we call runs around the house

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<v Speaker 2>and does zoomis up and down the stairs and just

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<v Speaker 2>seems to be inexhaustible. Now they kind of move it

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a slower pace like some of

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<v Speaker 2>us do as we age gracefully.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's right. So the big signs are less, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>less playful. Maybe they're gaining a little bit of weight,

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<v Speaker 4>slowing down on walks, sleeping more. Those are some of

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<v Speaker 4>the changes that I see in their behavior. Our cats

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<v Speaker 4>are wanting to jump up less, or maybe they're taking

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<v Speaker 4>doing little modifications to avoid doing those big jumps that

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<v Speaker 4>they did when they're kittens, or maybe they're not playing

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<v Speaker 4>as much. So certainly one of those bigger, biggest signs

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<v Speaker 4>is slowing down. And why I get nervous as a

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<v Speaker 4>rehab that is because dogs lose muscle and as they

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<v Speaker 4>age and as they reach midlife, and losing muscle means

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<v Speaker 4>losing strength. Just like us when we're in our fifties,

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<v Speaker 4>we're losing muscle. It's harder to stay fit and stay strong,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's the same thing with our dogs and cats.

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<v Speaker 4>So huge issue.

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<v Speaker 2>So what is there anything that we can do or

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<v Speaker 2>is this just part of the natural aging process? And

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<v Speaker 2>you just want us to be more aware of what

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<v Speaker 2>our dogs and cats. I'm a dog guy, but what

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<v Speaker 2>our pets? All dogs, all pets, pets, they all go

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<v Speaker 2>to heaven. What they're doing in their later years before

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<v Speaker 2>they head off to heaven.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so first of all, be aware because and again

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<v Speaker 4>that's why I love the midlife crisis, calling a midlife

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<v Speaker 4>crisis because we haven't actually reached senior yet or not

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<v Speaker 4>a frail dog or not a frail kitty. We're not

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<v Speaker 4>so painful. But right now in this midlife period, I

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<v Speaker 4>want people to know, first of all, it happens. Second

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<v Speaker 4>of all, there are things you could do for it.

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<v Speaker 4>You can smart supplement to actually make that easy change

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit better. So I kind of have a

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<v Speaker 4>couple suggestions if you want to hear them for people

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<v Speaker 4>who can, you know, do things.

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<v Speaker 2>I have all ears. I am all ears, as as

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<v Speaker 2>is my audience. You have divided all.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, so you know everybody thinks about joint subblements. You

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<v Speaker 4>go to the dog food aisle, it's packed. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>glucosemine conjoint and fish oil. It's confusing. So the most

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<v Speaker 4>evidence we have for joint subblements is omega three fatty acids,

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<v Speaker 4>fish oils from a marine source. A lot of the

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<v Speaker 4>other stuff we don't have great evidence for, so fit

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<v Speaker 4>something like salmon oil great for the joints. All my

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<v Speaker 4>midlife dogs should be on it. The other thing is

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<v Speaker 4>muscle health. They're losing muscles because they're older, or maybe

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<v Speaker 4>they're slowing down because they have issues like a cavalier.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes they get back issues, they start to lose muffle

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<v Speaker 4>because of that. Our cats get kidney disease losing muscle.

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<v Speaker 4>So I suggest somebody called portotropin, which has been proven

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<v Speaker 4>in dogs and cats to maintain muscle loss associated with

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<v Speaker 4>aging and injury. And it's someone you could find in

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<v Speaker 4>a mios pet settlement, but it's called portotropin. That's number two.

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<v Speaker 4>The third one is actually probiotics. I think that our

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<v Speaker 4>aging animals need a little bit of digestive support. So

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<v Speaker 4>you know, when they're young, they got to the trash,

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<v Speaker 4>no problems, you know, stomach of steel. And in these days,

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<v Speaker 4>you know they kind of look at a tree the

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<v Speaker 4>wrong way or it's not their favorite treat, and you

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<v Speaker 4>know it's bad news. So I love doing probiotics. And

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<v Speaker 4>my only tip for the probiotics out there, because there

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<v Speaker 4>are a couple of good brands, is make sure it's

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<v Speaker 4>the one that's made for a dog or a cat.

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<v Speaker 4>So you can't use anything for humans. So just make

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<v Speaker 4>sure it's a dog or cat probiotic and it works

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<v Speaker 4>for your pet.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, those are all great suggestions. I know with my cavalier,

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<v Speaker 2>I used to have him bench press a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>and it worked out. Not heavyweights, to do about fifty pounds,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and you know, ten reps at a time

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<v Speaker 2>and I'd spot him and it was fine. He enjoyed

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<v Speaker 2>that they only getting only getting bill.

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<v Speaker 4>You listen, you also don't forget the core. That's the

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<v Speaker 4>most important part.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh. Absolutely, the sit ups were terrible anyway. Doctor Kelly Fishman,

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<v Speaker 2>veterinary sports medicine rehab expert. What's your website and folks,

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<v Speaker 2>in case folks want to check in with you, give

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<v Speaker 2>us a website.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Dan, So it's strut. So I always think of

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<v Speaker 4>a happy dog or cat strugging, so st r ut

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<v Speaker 4>animal dot com. I have a couple of recommendations for

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<v Speaker 4>the supplements that I talked about today, fish oil, Forto,

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<v Speaker 4>tropen probiotics, all of them on my website. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Perfect, Doctor Fishman, Thank you very much. I think veterinarians

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<v Speaker 2>are special people because they take care of the most

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<v Speaker 2>special people in our lives. Our pets do become members

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<v Speaker 2>of the family, there's no question about it. Thanks so much,

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<v Speaker 2>doctor Fishman. Appreciate your time.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, good night. When we get back, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about a horrific event that occurred in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>seventy nine and it's a fascinating book. I talked with

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<v Speaker 2>the author today and I have him on tonight because

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<v Speaker 2>the book has just come out. It's called The Fuji Fire,

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<v Speaker 2>Sifty Ashes of a Forgotten Newest Marine Corps Tragedy. Where

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<v Speaker 2>do you hear this story? I think many of you

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<v Speaker 2>are going to want to purchase this book or order

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<v Speaker 2>it from Amazon. We'll be back on Nightside right after

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<v Speaker 2>this with Chas Henry, a former marine by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>who wrote this book and has chronicled this tremendous and

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<v Speaker 2>unnecessary loss of young US marines back in nineteen seventy nine.

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<v Speaker 2>And I will connect it to what's going on in Iran,

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<v Speaker 2>in Iraq and all of that in the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 2>Right after this break.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZY, Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Forty five years ago is a long time, obviously, it

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<v Speaker 2>was forty five years ago in November that the US

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<v Speaker 2>Embassy was taken captive by followers of the Ayatola Homeni.

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<v Speaker 2>That story dominated the news for four hundred and forty

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<v Speaker 2>four days as our hostages were held in captivity in Tehran.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a tragedy that occurred just a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>weeks before that at a marine base in near Mount Fuji,

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<v Speaker 2>a marine training camp near Mount Fuji on October nineteenth,

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy nine. It was a huge story, took the

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<v Speaker 2>lives of some young marines and badly scarred and burned others.

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<v Speaker 2>And to refresh your recollection, this is what Walter Cronkite

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<v Speaker 2>reported on CBS Evening News October twenty second, nineteen seventy nine.

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<v Speaker 5>Friday, a typhoon toppled a huge fuel storage tank at

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<v Speaker 5>swept the US Marines barracks there. One marine died instantly,

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<v Speaker 5>but to day, it turns out the tragedy was greater

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<v Speaker 5>than it first reported. Thirty seven badly burned Marines nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>Joining me is the author of a book Fuji Fire,

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<v Speaker 2>Sifting Ashes of a Forgotten US Marine Corps Tragedy. Chas Henry,

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<v Speaker 2>an author, also a journalist, but even more importantly, a

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<v Speaker 2>twenty year Marine Corps veteran, and in an article that

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<v Speaker 2>was written by Jim Webb himself a former Marine who

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<v Speaker 2>served in the Vietnam, former US Secretary of the Navy,

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<v Speaker 2>and a US Senator from Virginia, Jim Webb Webb wrote,

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<v Speaker 2>the complexity of this story makes it exceedingly difficult to

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<v Speaker 2>tell till now. It has been little remembered and in

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<v Speaker 2>frequently taught in our military academies. Mister Henry's scholarly rigor

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<v Speaker 2>change that. Delighted to introduce to all of you, Chas Henry, Chas,

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Night Side.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you so, I'm well, Dan, Thanks so much

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<v Speaker 3>for the opportunity to talk about something that may well

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<v Speaker 3>be the US Marine Corps worst ever peacetime tragedy, but

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<v Speaker 3>is largely forgotten.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, of course we often think of the US

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<v Speaker 2>Marines who are killed in the Beirut bomb blast, but

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<v Speaker 2>that was something that was man made. This was finally

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<v Speaker 2>determined to be an act of God. But there may

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<v Speaker 2>have been some judgments that were made by the higher

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<v Speaker 2>ups in the Marine for having these these fuel facilities

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<v Speaker 2>higher than the base camp set the stage for as

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<v Speaker 2>you know more about this story, probably than anyone, So

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<v Speaker 2>I want to listen. And by the way, we will

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<v Speaker 2>a week and a half or so. Go right ahead, Chazz.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure. So this is a lower sloping land. This is

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<v Speaker 3>near the base of Mount Fuji, and they are about

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<v Speaker 3>twelve hundred marines of this training camp. They'd come up

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<v Speaker 3>from units in Okinawa to train big open spaces and ranges.

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<v Speaker 3>Fuel bladders in rubberized fabric bladders were placed uphill of

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<v Speaker 3>where these marines were living in ramshackle quantt huts. And

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<v Speaker 3>a storm here, not just any storm, but this is

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<v Speaker 3>the still standing record the largest most intense typhoon ever,

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<v Speaker 3>Typhoon Tip in nineteen seventy nine if you had taken

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<v Speaker 3>it and places over the continental United States at its height,

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<v Speaker 3>it would have covered between half and two thirds of

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<v Speaker 3>the nation. It goes over the mainland. Japan drops more

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<v Speaker 3>rain in a day than they typically would get in

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<v Speaker 3>a month, and this created a breach in a berm

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<v Speaker 3>that had been built up around these fuel bladders. One

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<v Speaker 3>Pumps that are still attached by hoses fall in and

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<v Speaker 3>they slice a five foot slice in this bladder. Ballons

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<v Speaker 3>of gasoline flows downhill on top of this flood that's

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<v Speaker 3>already going into the quantu huts that are heated by

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<v Speaker 3>open flame kerosene heaters, and as you might imagine, vapors

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<v Speaker 3>rise and fire breaks out. In the end, seventy three

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<v Speaker 3>people were injured, of whom fifty four were burned, and

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<v Speaker 3>over the next several weeks, thirteen died from those injuries.

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<v Speaker 2>And you've been in touch with a lot of these

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<v Speaker 2>You've dedicated. I believe it was four years of your

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<v Speaker 3>I fell into it during the pandemic in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>I was looking for something to do. I just retired

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<v Speaker 3>from daily journalism and I never would have imagined it

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<v Speaker 3>became what it did. But it involved interviewing more than

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred and thirty people with direct firsthand experience of

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<v Speaker 3>the events, and a continuum that included describing the storm,

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<v Speaker 3>the events of the day at the camp, and then

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<v Speaker 3>a long range of heroic and dedicated medical evacuation and

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<v Speaker 3>treatment provided to these marines, and meeting many of these marines,

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<v Speaker 3>and hearing quite a number of really phenomenal, inspiring survivor stories.

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<v Speaker 2>How difficult was it to track these men down? Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>this is in nineteen seventy nine. You start out on

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<v Speaker 2>your pursuit of this story forty years later, so I

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<v Speaker 2>assume many of them may have passed away. Above and

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<v Speaker 2>beyond those who were killed in this horrific event. Was

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<v Speaker 2>the Marine Corps? Was the Defense Department cooperative with you

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<v Speaker 2>and said, oh, yeah, this is where these folks now live.

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<v Speaker 2>How did you track them down? That's a journalist question

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<v Speaker 2>to another journalist.

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<v Speaker 6>It was.

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<v Speaker 3>A challenge, and that made it kind of exciting. So

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<v Speaker 3>there was a copy of the investigation that was done

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<v Speaker 3>that was sort of floating around. It was highly redacted.

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<v Speaker 3>I got a copy of that early on, but I came.

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<v Speaker 3>Within the first few months of starting the research. I

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<v Speaker 3>realized that a friend of mine in nineteen eighty six

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<v Speaker 3>had filed the freedom of in act request thinking that

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<v Speaker 3>he might write something about this, and he received about

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<v Speaker 3>three quarters of an inch worth of photocopied materials to

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<v Speaker 3>include a mostly non redacted version of the investigation. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>between the two that I had, I was able to

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<v Speaker 3>page by page reconstruct a completely non redacted investigation. What

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<v Speaker 3>that allowed me was names names were not crossed out,

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<v Speaker 3>and fortunately not everybody's name was John Jones or Bob Smith.

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<v Speaker 3>There were some that had sufficiently unique names that using

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<v Speaker 3>search engines now people searches online, I would find perhaps

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<v Speaker 3>five or six people that seemed to have that name,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe were about the right age. And I spent a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of money. My wife complained about all the stamps

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<v Speaker 3>I bought sending out letters probably for the first year,

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<v Speaker 3>and eventually I started to get letters back, and that

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<v Speaker 3>led me to conduct the interviews, and then sometimes people

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<v Speaker 3>would say, well, I'm still in touch with this.

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<v Speaker 2>Other person who was there.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was a slow start, but very encouraging as

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<v Speaker 2>I assume that a lot of these men not only

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<v Speaker 2>wanted the story told for themselves and to have a

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<v Speaker 2>record of it, but also in memory of the young

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<v Speaker 2>Marines who died or were severely injured in this this disaster.

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<v Speaker 3>It's true. So this is largely forgotten, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the principal reason is because you know, just two weeks

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<v Speaker 3>later the hostage is taken and around the national attention shifts.

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<v Speaker 3>There was also some reticence on the part of the

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<v Speaker 3>Marine Corps to talk about it. So this hasn't appeared

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<v Speaker 3>in you know, many histories of the Marine Corps and such.

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<v Speaker 3>I had an email just the other day from someone

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<v Speaker 3>who was not involved. I didn't interview for the book,

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<v Speaker 3>but I had an email through my website from a

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<v Speaker 3>fellow who said that because we never read about this,

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<v Speaker 3>we feel almost ashamed and asking themselves, you know, did

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<v Speaker 3>we do something wrong? And it was this motivation over

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<v Speaker 3>These guys were all about my age, the younger guys.

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<v Speaker 3>It was really amazing. There were certainly people who had

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<v Speaker 3>one guy who was a brigadier general in nineteen seventy nine.

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<v Speaker 3>He since passed away, but I was able to interview

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<v Speaker 3>him a couple of years ago and got some very

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<v Speaker 2>Was that General Robert Barrow.

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<v Speaker 3>No, General Barrow had passed away some time before. This

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<v Speaker 3>was Joe mcmonagall, who was an assistant division commander in Okinawa,

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<v Speaker 3>who came up the day after the fire to sort

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<v Speaker 3>of see what was happening, and so to get his

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<v Speaker 3>perspective on what he saw was very useful. And his

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<v Speaker 3>observations about the leadership and what marines were asking him

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<v Speaker 3>and such a lot of guys were about my age,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I called it, in fact, my first two

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, I'll tell you the military often what do

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<v Speaker 2>they say, you know, victory has a thousand mothers and

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<v Speaker 2>defeat or disasters an orphan. One of my closest friends

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<v Speaker 2>in the world was the commander of the U. S. S. Pueblo,

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<v Speaker 2>Pete Booker Lloyd Right. And someday when we talk as

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<v Speaker 2>of they tried to court martial Commander Booker. That was

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<v Speaker 2>prevented by the Secretary of Navy John Chafey, and then

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<v Speaker 2>they tried to prevent giving POW medals to the crew

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<v Speaker 2>of the Preblo. I got involved in that as a

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<v Speaker 2>lawyer back in the nineteen eighties, and the story of

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<v Speaker 2>what happened to the crew of the Preblo for eleven

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<v Speaker 2>months in captivity in North Korea. The Preblo is now

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<v Speaker 2>the only US naval warship in the hands of the enemy,

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<v Speaker 2>is on display in peong Pang, North Korea. But as

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<v Speaker 2>I was reading the materials that you said me, there

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<v Speaker 2>were a lot of similarities to what happened to the

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<v Speaker 2>men of the Pueblo. They were promised air support which

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<v Speaker 2>never came, and they as a results, spent eleven months

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<v Speaker 2>in very tough captivity. So it was also about ten years.

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<v Speaker 2>January twenty third to December twenty third of nineteen sixty

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<v Speaker 2>eight became a big issue in the sixty eighth presidential campaign.

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<v Speaker 2>But there should have been some heads that rolled on

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<v Speaker 2>this one, and I'm looking forward. The book has just

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<v Speaker 2>come out. It's published by Nebraska Press. I believe is

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<v Speaker 2>that the public publisher.

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<v Speaker 3>University of Nebraska Press, it's on their Potomac Books in print.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so Amazon easy to get. I assume at this

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<v Speaker 2>point came out just this month, yes, but not mistaken.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, there's a hard hardcover kindle and an audiobook.

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<v Speaker 2>Really an audiobook as well. Okay, that is fabulous. Give

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<v Speaker 2>us the title one more time. I've read it a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of times. I want to hear it from you.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you. It's Fujifire Sifting Ashes of a Forgotten US

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<v Speaker 3>Marine Corps Tragedy.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy, that is a perfect, perfect title, Chas. We will

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<v Speaker 2>do a longer interview on this, but I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>get something on the air, and I appreciate you being

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<v Speaker 2>available tonight in such short notice. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking the next couple of days.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so grateful for your time and interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you all right, Chas Henry the author of Fujifire

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<v Speaker 2>Sifting Ashes of a Forgotten US Marine Corps Tragedy. When

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<v Speaker 2>we get back, we're going to talk. Some of you

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<v Speaker 2>might have experienced this today. As a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 2>I think Chas actually experienced when I was talking with

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<v Speaker 2>five tips to keep your phone from overheating. We will

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<v Speaker 2>be right back on night's side, Keep with us, Stay

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<v Speaker 2>with us. We've got a very interesting show coming up

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<v Speaker 2>for you tonight. Scott Brown will join us at after

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<v Speaker 2>nine o'clock and then we're going to talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>call and the jury foreman of the Karen Reid trial

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<v Speaker 2>for a complete from from just from the get go

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<v Speaker 2>investigation of the death of the tragic death of John O'Keefe.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure that that is doable legally, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not even sure that it's wise, but I suspect all

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<v Speaker 2>of you have some different points of vie. Owner. Here

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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Boston's News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Like to welcome Peter Nixon. He's the director of retail

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<v Speaker 2>where were you two nights ago? Only kiddy.

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<v Speaker 6>Dan, I know you cover some pretty heavy subjects, So

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<v Speaker 6>this this you gotta pay attention going into this one.

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<v Speaker 2>I will, I promise I pay attention to all the subjects,

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<v Speaker 6>Number one, Like, let let's use common sense and keep

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<v Speaker 6>it out of direct sunlight. So a lot of times

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<v Speaker 6>if we're in the car and we take it, we

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<v Speaker 6>throw our phone on the dashboard, that sun comes in,

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<v Speaker 6>heaps up your phone. Next thing you know, your phone's

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<v Speaker 6>making funny noises and it's telling you that you know

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<v Speaker 6>it's not gonna work. It's gonna shut down because it's

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<v Speaker 6>too hot. So if you have your phone in the car,

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<v Speaker 6>keep it in a shaded spot whenever possible.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, kids, sunlight and heat like we've experienced

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<v Speaker 2>the last couple of days, could that actually kill a phone.

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<v Speaker 6>It can damage it, meaning it'll shut down, and who

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<v Speaker 6>knows what damage it does to the phone it shuts down. Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>so we always Another thing we say is avoid overuse

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<v Speaker 6>in the heat. And what do I mean by overuse gaming?

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<v Speaker 6>I know you and I are probably very big gamers,

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<v Speaker 6>but our kids are.

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<v Speaker 2>There sadly, sadly, but no, I'm not. Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, So as the game it heats up the processors,

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<v Speaker 6>it makes it hotter. Video streaming, if you're on there

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<v Speaker 6>checking Facebook video streams, that also makes it hotter. And then,

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<v Speaker 6>believe it or not, if you're in the car using GPS,

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<v Speaker 6>A lot of times can can make the phone hot,

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<v Speaker 6>and we'll limit you know, limit the the way that

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<v Speaker 6>it works. So you got to giff on that and

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<v Speaker 6>watch it. So watch your high temperatures outside.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 6>Then if it does start to heat up and you

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<v Speaker 6>start to see warnings on it, because most phones will

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<v Speaker 6>give you a little warning, some simple things you can do,

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<v Speaker 6>like take it out of the case because the case

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<v Speaker 6>acts like a blanket and it keeps the warmth and

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<v Speaker 6>the phone. So if you take it off, it should

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<v Speaker 6>start to cool down a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing you should never do is put it in

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<v Speaker 2>ice water. Correct, I just want to make make it

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<v Speaker 2>make it clear on that, right.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, don't put it in the freezer, put it in

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<v Speaker 6>a refrigerator, don't put it in nice water.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what else?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so we say let it cool naturally. Right, if

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<v Speaker 6>your phone overheats, power it down, let it rest in

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<v Speaker 6>a cool spot. And we always say never put it

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<v Speaker 6>in the fridge or a freezer. Let it return to

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<v Speaker 6>its natural state naturally. So some common sense tips, but

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's happened to all of us that our

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<v Speaker 6>phone is overheated.

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<v Speaker 2>I think also there was some tips to disable Bluetooth,

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<v Speaker 2>Wi Fi and background apps when not in use to

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<v Speaker 2>reduce strain on your device. We have all become so

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<v Speaker 2>dependent upon our phones, and we I I like everyone else.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably you don't. You don't realize the miracle you You

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<v Speaker 2>take it for granted that you can be standing in

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<v Speaker 2>so many different places. I mean, I'm old enough to

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<v Speaker 2>remember pay phones. I'm old enough to remember rotary dial phones.

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<v Speaker 2>And yes, I know you you should look. I should

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<v Speaker 2>look at my phone every day and say, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a miracle that in my hand I have all the

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<v Speaker 2>phone numbers. Remember, I had no idea how old you are, Peter,

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<v Speaker 2>but I suspect that you probably used to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to remember phone numbers. Yeah, that was not uncommon. I

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<v Speaker 2>would have like probably fifty numbers in my head of

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<v Speaker 2>my friends and all of that. I still remember, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the work numbers, businesses that you're called. Now, I have

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<v Speaker 2>a tough time, right, we've trained ourselves not to remember.

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<v Speaker 2>Or is that just the process of getting older?

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<v Speaker 6>Do you think? Oh? No, I think you're right on

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<v Speaker 6>the money. You remember, you hear the phone number when

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<v Speaker 6>you put it into your memory in your phone, and

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<v Speaker 6>then you never think of it again. You look up

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<v Speaker 6>Dan Ray Nightside and I hit send, and that's how

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<v Speaker 6>I get you. I don't look up I don't look

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<v Speaker 6>up your phone number.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>So that's why it's important to have cloud backup because

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<v Speaker 6>we probably all lost phones too, and how devastated we

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<v Speaker 6>are when we lose a phone and all those numbers,

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<v Speaker 6>all those pictures go with it unless you use some

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<v Speaker 6>sort of storage or some sort of backup.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I've had that experience, unfortunately. But what is amazing

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<v Speaker 2>to me is I have been in Europe and have

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<v Speaker 2>called friends of mine in the middle of the country,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning in Kansas, from Europe, and it sounds like they're

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<v Speaker 2>standing next to you.

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<v Speaker 6>It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can remember as a as a young television reporter,

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<v Speaker 2>having to find payphones to go through your pocket with

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<v Speaker 2>dimes so you could call the desk and let them

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<v Speaker 2>know that you were, you know, and then all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden you had some phones in the in the vans,

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<v Speaker 2>and again we just become so used to it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>almost like refrigeration during the summer. You know, most of

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<v Speaker 2>us are lucky enough to have a refrigerator. So you

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<v Speaker 2>go down and you want to have a hold, can't

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<v Speaker 2>a twelve hours refreshment watching the ball game, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you just you know, in the old days when people

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have refrigerators, they had to walk all the way

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<v Speaker 2>down to the corner right.

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<v Speaker 6>It's you think about a lot of times. I've kept

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<v Speaker 6>this in my mind before you even walk out the

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<v Speaker 6>door in the morning. A lot of us don't realize

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<v Speaker 6>how much we depend on our phone. It wakes us

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<v Speaker 6>up as an alarm clock. If you have a home alarm,

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<v Speaker 6>you can shut it off right from your handset. So

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<v Speaker 6>you shut off the home alarm in your house, you

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<v Speaker 6>may go get a cup of coffee and use it

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<v Speaker 6>at your favorite establishment to buy that cup of coffee.

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<v Speaker 6>It's just endless. If you leave your phone at home,

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<v Speaker 6>it's a tough day.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh or if you if you do misplace it and

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<v Speaker 2>and you're and you're in a panic. I'm always trying

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<v Speaker 2>when did when did I last use my phone? Where

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<v Speaker 2>was I? Was I in the car? Was I downstairs?

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<v Speaker 2>Was I down cellarted? I just think that they are

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<v Speaker 2>a modern miracle. There's a lot of things that are miraculous.

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<v Speaker 2>The automobiles a miracle. We used to have horse and buggy,

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<v Speaker 2>but we take phones for granted. And thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>what you guys, do you know keeping keeping those phones

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<v Speaker 2>working for us at AT and T, Verizon or whomever

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<v Speaker 2>your phone service happens to be provided by. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 2>the suggestions I had one other questions. First, was set

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<v Speaker 2>up through a public relations manager named Karen Toomey at

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<v Speaker 2>AT and T Corporate Communications. Is that the same Karen

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<v Speaker 2>to me here?

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<v Speaker 6>It sure is?

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<v Speaker 2>Well. Please give her my best.

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<v Speaker 6>Will Dan. And one funny story when she said started

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<v Speaker 6>working for us. We're in a meeting and I said

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<v Speaker 6>to her, Karen, can you do me one favor before

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<v Speaker 6>we leave the meeting? Can you just say and this

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<v Speaker 6>is Karen Toomey for w b Z And she.

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<v Speaker 2>Did, Dad. Well, she's she's a great reporter, great colleague.

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<v Speaker 2>Our losses as AT and T's gain. And if she's

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<v Speaker 2>not listening, please let her know that she's remembered well

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<v Speaker 2>in the busy newsroom.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, I sure will, Dan. Thanks your nice talking.

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<v Speaker 2>You, thank you very much, Talk soon, all right, good night?

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<v Speaker 2>All right. We got one more guest coming up, and

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<v Speaker 2>I wish this was television. It's Miss Massachusetts, the newly

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<v Speaker 2>crowned Miss Massachusetts. Will join us on the phone and

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<v Speaker 2>we will talk with her about becoming Miss Massachusetts. Her

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<v Speaker 2>name is Kayla Griffin, and we'll talk with Kayla Griffin

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<v Speaker 2>and some causes that she is working. She works hard

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<v Speaker 2>on behalf of Right after this quick break on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Boston's news Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I am delighted to introduce to my audience

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<v Speaker 2>the you, Miss Massachusetts, Cayla Griffin, Miss Massachusetts, Kyla Griffin,

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Nightside. How are you hi?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm good.

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<v Speaker 7>How are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm wonderful. So tell us a little bit about how

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<v Speaker 2>you were. You were named Miss Massachusetts, I believe as

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<v Speaker 2>recently as last weekend.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, well, firstly, thank you for having me. I'm excited

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<v Speaker 7>to be here, Miss Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 7>Miss Massachusetts was this past weekend and I was crowned

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<v Speaker 7>on Saturday. So it's still very very fresh for me.

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<v Speaker 7>And it was a long week, but it was so

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<v Speaker 7>worth it and I had a great time.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you will serve as Miss Massachusetts for a year.

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<v Speaker 2>And I guess one of the issues that you're very

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<v Speaker 2>concerned about is homelessness here in Massachusetts. How did you

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<v Speaker 2>get interested in that issue in the first place? I said,

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<v Speaker 2>give us an idea about what you hope to do.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, So, like you said, I will be serving as

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<v Speaker 7>Miss Massachusetts for an entire year. And in the Miss

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<v Speaker 7>America Opportunity Organization, we have something called a Community Service Initiative,

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<v Speaker 7>and mine is the Purple Blueprint creating solutions for unhoused Americans.

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<v Speaker 7>So I'm currently a healthcare worker and it kind of

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<v Speaker 7>started during covid Era when I was working at the

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<v Speaker 7>hospital and a lot of our unhoused community members would

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<v Speaker 7>come in and I really dawned on me how vulnerable

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<v Speaker 7>this population is and the little platforms that they have,

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<v Speaker 7>and I just figured, you know, if I have a

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<v Speaker 7>voice and I have the means, I should do something

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<v Speaker 7>about this. So that's kind of what got me started.

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<v Speaker 7>And ever since then, I've been trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 7>ways to help our housing crisis and our homelessness crisis.

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<v Speaker 7>And once I was crowned Miss Cambridge first this year,

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<v Speaker 7>I decided I really wanted to start that because there's

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<v Speaker 7>a lot going on in Cambridge and Boston with this,

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<v Speaker 7>and now that I am in Massachusetts, my hope is

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<v Speaker 7>that I can further elevate my platform really work with

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of organizations. When I volunteer with weekly right

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<v Speaker 7>now as horizons for homeless children. They are amazing and

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<v Speaker 7>my goal is to make some change and work with

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<v Speaker 7>policy leaders and local and state officials as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you're a graduate of Northeastern University and you said

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<v Speaker 2>you work in the healthcare industry.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, so, go Huskies. I graduated from Northeastern in twenty

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<v Speaker 7>twenty two and now I work at mass General Hospital

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<v Speaker 7>in downtown, So that's kind of been my shift since

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<v Speaker 7>post graduation.

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<v Speaker 2>And great facility. What do you do there? If I could,

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<v Speaker 2>Are you on the floor, are you work What exactly

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<v Speaker 2>do you do at Mass General?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes? Yeah, so I used to work on the floor

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<v Speaker 7>at Beth Israel as a patient care technician, and now

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<v Speaker 7>I do cardio vascular research through the Cardio Center at

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<v Speaker 7>Mass General. So I do a lot of lab works.

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<v Speaker 7>It's really exciting and interesting, and I've partnered with the

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<v Speaker 7>American Heart Association through both my job and as a

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<v Speaker 7>titleholder now is miss Massachusetts. So I'm an advocate for

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<v Speaker 7>heart health and we do a lot of cool nerdy

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<v Speaker 7>stuff figuring out.

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<v Speaker 6>Ways to you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's greatcation comes helps all of us. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I noticed that you were crowned last Saturday at the

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<v Speaker 2>Hanover Theater, which is a beautiful facility in Worcester. You

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<v Speaker 2>said at one point you would miss Worcester. Did you

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<v Speaker 2>grow up in Worcester?

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<v Speaker 7>No, I didn't, But Worcester was actually the first title

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<v Speaker 7>I've ever had, So sometimes you can go to different

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<v Speaker 7>pageants in the state even if you're not from there,

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<v Speaker 7>as long as you're a resident of Massachusetts. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 7>Hanover is incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>I love everyone there, so yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Great facility. I remember being there for a program helping

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<v Speaker 2>kids with autism. Back this is going to be be

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<v Speaker 2>pre pandemic. So tell me a little bit more about yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you grow up obviously in Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 7>Actually it didn't. I was a military kid, so I

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<v Speaker 7>grew up everywhere. Okay, yeah, my dad was in the

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<v Speaker 7>Air Force, so I grew up all over the place.

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<v Speaker 7>But Massachusetts, I always say, is a state that raised

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<v Speaker 7>me because I came here when I was seventeen, eighteen

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<v Speaker 7>years old, and I've been here ever since. Itce the

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<v Speaker 7>longest place I've ever been consecutively, and it's been home

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<v Speaker 7>for a near a decade now. So I love Massachusetts

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<v Speaker 7>and it's given.

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<v Speaker 3>Me so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Does your dad still active duty?

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<v Speaker 7>No, he retired, so he is a veteran now and

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<v Speaker 7>my parents currently are in Virginia.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, when you talk to you dad, thank him for

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<v Speaker 2>his service to our country. I must tell you that

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<v Speaker 2>I am always so impressed. I know the word is

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<v Speaker 2>military brats, and I know that's not a nice him necessarily,

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<v Speaker 2>but I am so impressed with young people like yourself

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<v Speaker 2>who not only come from families with the military background,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm sure the dad is still a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>discipline in the home. But in addition to oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to when you're a member, your mom and

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<v Speaker 2>your dad is in the military, and you're moving around,

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<v Speaker 2>making new friends, adjusting to new places, new climates, sometimes overseas,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes back here in the States. It's a great challenge,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that it's real blessing for someone to

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<v Speaker 2>experience that, because you've already seen large a large swath

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<v Speaker 2>of this country, and you've all probably also seen a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of the world that most kids who are

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<v Speaker 2>your age, young people who are your age, have yet

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<v Speaker 2>to have a chance to see. Now you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be competing in the Miss America competition in September. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in Orlando, Florida. Tell us about that because I know

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<v Speaker 2>that that that's I hope it's still published televised nationally

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<v Speaker 2>and then we'll be able to watch this competition. Tell

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<v Speaker 2>us how how much of what? What do you have

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<v Speaker 2>to do and prep for that other than I guess

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<v Speaker 2>show up and be smart, smart and look sharp.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, yes, I'm so excited. It's going to be in Orlando,

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<v Speaker 7>Florida in September. And yeah, the preparation is just a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of activism in my community because I just want

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<v Speaker 7>to show the country what Massachusetts is made of, Like

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<v Speaker 7>this is who we are. And of course, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>like making sure your mind is right and you've got

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<v Speaker 7>your style down and your dresses and your talent and

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<v Speaker 7>and all of that. So there's interview proportions as well.

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<v Speaker 7>So just being fully prepared and going to have a

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<v Speaker 7>good time and meet a bunch of really incredible women.

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<v Speaker 2>What when you when you talk about you have to

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<v Speaker 2>do some sort of a musical instrument if I'm not correct,

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<v Speaker 2>or sing or dance or something. What?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, what is that's?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that called the talent? I just don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>misname it. What is that called?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, no, you got it? Yeah, that's the talent portion.

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<v Speaker 7>So we have different sections. We have on stage question talent, fitness,

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<v Speaker 7>evening gown, and then we do a private interview. Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>so talent, I play the piano.

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<v Speaker 2>You play it. Oh my god, you do it all,

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<v Speaker 2>you do it all.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh my gosh, no, I love piano.

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<v Speaker 2>Miss Massachusetts, twenty twenty five. Congratulations, Kaylae. You sound obviously

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<v Speaker 2>you are a very beautiful young woman, but you also

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<v Speaker 2>seem to exude all the qualities of someone who's both

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful externally but also internally.

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<v Speaker 7>And oh, thank you you you.

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<v Speaker 2>Are bright as a north star. So thank you so

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<v Speaker 2>much for and best of luck. Not to much, no,

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<v Speaker 2>but you have a great time and have fun and

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<v Speaker 2>bring home one more crown.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, I'll do it all right, Thank you guys so

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<v Speaker 7>much for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>You're very welcome, Kayla Griffin, Miss Massachusetts, with a platform

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<v Speaker 2>focused on solutions for homelessness, or as they are currently called,

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<v Speaker 2>the unhoused. My name's Dan Ray. We're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>back with former Massachusetts senator now Republican candidate for the

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<v Speaker 2>US Senator in New Hampshire, Scott Brown, and he'll be

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<v Speaker 2>taking your phone call, so line up your questions. Coming

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<v Speaker 2>back on night side right after this
