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Speaker 1: We know what Mexico looks like through our eyes. What's

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going on down there? If you have friends down there,

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you probably feel some things close to what I feel.

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But what does it look like through the eyes of

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a global security professional and former Special Forces operative. Michael

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Rourke joins us courtesy of Bulwark Capital Management, Milliar's podcast

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dot com and God Almighty.

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Speaker 2: But Todd Herman shows disapproved but big pharma technocrats in

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tyrone Cebrian ware from the high Mountains of Free America.

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Here's the Emerald City, Xie Todd Herman.

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Speaker 1: Today is the day the Lord has made and these

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are the time so which God is to estabriaged to live.

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Michael Ark joins me. He is the chief over at

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Advanced Operational Concepts and a retired Special Forces operative. Mike,

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Welcome back to the show. Appreciate you taking the time.

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Speaker 3: Thanks to good being with you again.

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Speaker 1: If you posted a video I'm going to play here,

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you won't be able to see it, but folks watching

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them able to see it, and it is dang It

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is very dramatic footage out of Mexico and shows the

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damage that has been done. We'll talk about loss of

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lives and what the cartels are doing down there, but

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a million views on this on Instagram. And as you

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watch this, what's it look like through your eyes as

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a guy who's seen just about every form of warfare

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there is.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think what you're seeing now is the true

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reach of the cartel. You have all these American tourists

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that go down there, you have all these spring breakers

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that are probably still planning to head down there quite soon,

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and they think nothing ever happens here. Well, all of

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a sudden, it started happening here, and so it kind

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of takes that denial away from people, which is one

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of the key parts of the situational awareness is vanquishing denial,

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and you're really seeing the true reach of the cartel.

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At any point, they can impact pretty much any area

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in the country. Corto Arrita, one of the main tourist area,

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is a place you're familiar with. Yeah, was severely impacted.

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Even over in u could Ten Peninsula. You had roadblocks

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going up, cars being burned, and tourists being told to

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shelter in place. So the reach of the cartel is

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actually a lot more pervasive than people realize.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean they've set up supply chains into our country.

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They run fence and all into our country. They run

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people into our country, they run cash out of our country,

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they run supplies into our country. They're I mean, you

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could call them paramilitary. I've been looking at some of

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their gear. I can't look at it the way you do,

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but I looked at a footage and this is propaganda

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from them. But Mike, it was a half a mile

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of to my eyes up armored trucks looked military grade

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to me, machine guns, I could tell that, turrets on top,

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and a half mile of those trucks filled with ten

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to fifteen guys in each truck. And that was shot

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with an on ground camera and a couple of drones

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doing their reach. I've also seen what they call their

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Delta Force, and I'm going to take a wild guest

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that you would say they don't compare it to the

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actual Delta force. But this is this reach what you're

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talking about vanquishing denial. That's a great point. And as

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you're looking at this in terms of, you know, vanquishing

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our denial, are we going to have to send troops

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down there to clean this up?

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Speaker 3: Well, ideally not, but it certainly it can certainly happen.

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I've heard estimates of cartel numbers as high as north

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of forty thousand people within the cartels in Mexico. That

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doesn't count the cartel members here in the United States.

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Right now, we have seventh Special Forces Group, which specializes

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in Central and South America. There are elements of Seventh

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Group that trains with the Mexican military trying to improve

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their capabilities. To the best of my knowledge, they're not

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going out on targets. We had no boots on the

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ground participating in the raid yesterday that killed the cartel leader.

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In fact, the president of Mexico came out today and

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stated that as a fact that there were no American

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boots on the ground, but we did participate by sharing intelligence.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was rumors that people were putting out that

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Seals did the hit. And before you and I went

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on the show, I went on the air of the day,

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I asked you if you thought the Seals had done

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the hit, and you were pretty quick to say no,

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you didn't think there was a real chance that that

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that happened.

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Speaker 3: I know, not at all. That's a level of involvement

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that were I don't think we're at yet, and if

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it started, If it began happening, it wouldn't be secret

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very long.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, your words constantly echoed my mind when I'm down

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a place like this. I told your story last time

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I was in Porto Arta, that I woke up to

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the sounds of explosions and the oodoloup hit me. Orient

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observe orient or orient observe, decide, act And I was

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at the point of acting, of starting to go over

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to my daughter's room. She was standing next to me

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to say, Okay, here's what we're gonna do, when I

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realized these were fireworks going on to the beach that

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were celebrating a wedding. It wasn't in fact this day,

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but that was about six months ago that I was

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down there. So I had water and food. I always

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go get a couple days worth of water. I always

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pack up a bunch of food in the room. And

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I'm just thinking about Tsunamis. I'm not thinking about the revolution,

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but I want to have that stuff on hand for

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international travelers who have to go to places like Mexico,

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not necessarily for spring Baker talking about or for vacation.

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What do you do if you go into a place

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that can kind of explode this way.

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Speaker 3: You need to start thinking about it before you go,

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you know, decide, you know that, Okay, we're going to

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have a plan. We're going to have ways to communicate

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when we get down there. We're going to set up

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rally points to where if we're off doing different activities

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and all of a sudden, the fe's hiss, the oscillator,

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you know, where, where are we going to link up?

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And then you know, and how are we going to

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get our family back together, our group at together?

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Speaker 2: Yep?

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Speaker 3: And then now then we're going to move on to

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the next part of our plan, which is making sure

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we either stand somewhere safe or we figure out how

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to get to somewhere safe.

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Speaker 1: What defines safety at a point like that, I mean,

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in your pre planning. I guess if you don't have

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that plan, this stuff hits. Safety is isolated, people can't

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see you. You have some form of uh, you know, water

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and food and warmth, you would hope. But prior to

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an event like this, let's say you're consulting some rich

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people whose kids are going down or they're going down

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h for a state and a place that can blow up,

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How do you define a place of safety.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's a in an immediate situation. You think about

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in terms of cover and concealment. Okay, concealment is where

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you can't be seen by bad actors. Cover is where

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bullets can't penetrate. So where uh, concealment may not necessarily

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be covered. So you want you want to get away

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from the areas like the military. You're not going to

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run to the sound of the guns.

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Speaker 1: You know, You're going to go the other way.

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Speaker 3: You don't want windows facing streets, you know, if you're

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getting a hotel or a resort, you know, forget the

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beach view. You want to be facing the courtyard, you know,

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which is away from any potential blast or you know,

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bullets coming through windows. Yeah, put put some obstacles between

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you and any any direct fire, and then safety is

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just gonna You need to have some situational awareness. You

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didn't tune in to uh to local social media, local reports.

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If you don't speak the language, you got to figure

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how to get it translated. Depend on the people who

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work at the resorts. If all of a sudden, everyone

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at your resort hotel is gone, that's a you know

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that works there is gone. That's a very bad sign

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one either they couldn't get to work or they were

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or they say, Okay, this is going to get real

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bad right here, and we're out. So you talked about

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paying attition to your surroundings.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you talked about an escalation scenario here, because I

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want to talk about where we're at. But you mentioned

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Let's go through the numbers. And before we do that,

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let's remember we're talking about dads who didn't make it home,

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likely dads. There might be some others in here. Twenty

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five I'm reading twenty five National guardsmen have been killed.

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I've read that there are three prison guards who have

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been killed that they went and engineered apparently a prison escape,

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and one officer now has been killed. This is the

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numbers I have as if today. We don't know about

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the amount of damage done yet. But you were talking

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about an escalation scenario, talking about the tourist areas that

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you could affect that industry and even affect a tourists

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without necessarily killing them by just cutting off their supply chain.

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Speaker 3: Exactly right. If you look at what happened yesterday. You know,

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the cartels were allegedly retaliating against the government for for

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killing their leader, but they lashed out against everyday businesses.

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They lashed out against convenience stores, pharmacies, the the parking

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lot for a Costco and Porta of Arta was set

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a blaze. I'm not sure if they burned the store

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itself and if they really want and you know, there

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were roadblocks and around tourist areas. Airports were cut off.

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All they have to do if they really want to

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impact the tourist areas is tell the workers you're no

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longer going to work until we tell you can go

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to work again. That that that cuts off, you know,

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the ability to operate the facility. You've cut off the

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food supply. You've impacted the tourists without actually laying a

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hand on a single tourist.

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Speaker 1: There's been a rule for many years now. This is

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this is it was the cartel in in that area

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that has said, look, you don't hit tourists, you don't

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kill them, you don't kidnap them. They didn't want they

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didn't want fetanyl sales in the tourist areas. And this

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was cartel enforced and those were some pretty hardcore rules

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and they did I understand and force that. But that

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also speaks to this level then of knowledge. These guys

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look at the tourist thing as a big business for them.

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They don't want people dying from fetanol gets a bad reputation.

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But then I've also heard people refer to the tourist

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industry as a laundering enterprise, cash laundering enterprise for the

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cartels that have you observed the same thing.

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Speaker 3: I'm not so sure about the money laundering that could

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certainly happen. But the cartels run a lot of the clubs,

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I know, like in the Cancoon area and the Ramaya. Yeah,

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well the clubs they do sell drugs to the tourists,

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and you know so, and there has been some spillover

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where tourists get caught up in the violence, usually as

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you know, wrong place, wrong time, Yeah, you know thing.

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ramping up what we're doing down there, even if it's

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just more in a support role, it's easy enough for

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the cartels to decide they want to retaliate by going

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after Americans down there, and you know, yes, and in

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a lot of ways they haven't been doing that yet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And so the new leader of this cartel, the new generation,

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apparently the air parent we think, is this guy named

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el Yoger Yogurt. He's already put out a video at

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one point talking about he was in Europe. They're in

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the banks in Europe, and he was breaking about that. Hey,

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we're already in the banks over here, so he's breaking

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about taking that territory and mention I listened to this

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audio of Elmentche, and this is going to bridge into

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discussion with the United States here in a sac at Mike.

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But I was listening to audio Elmente. It's in Spanish,

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so there's not a lot of point in playing it.

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It had been translated. He got on the phone with

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a local police chief and Almenche said, you are going

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to back off, You're going to chill out.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: This is me. It's Elmente. And first the chief didn't

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understand he and then he said, shut up and listen

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to me. This is Elmente. And he said, I will

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spell blood at a moment's notice. I will kill your family,

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I will kill your pets, I will kill your friends.

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You are going to back off, And then the officer

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got it, yes sir, yes sir, and he started to

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say I know you, I know where you live, I

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know your family. He said, you're plenty happy to take

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my money. You all take my money. And then the guy,

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the police chief, said, wait, you know me. I'm on

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your side. I'm on your side. I have nothing but

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respect for you. Will you better because you take all

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my money? And it was so weird because then the

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phone call ended up with the office saying, look, I'm sorry,

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I'm already putting messages out. I'm using a different device

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and the men, she said, do not turn your phone off.

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They'll take that as a sign of disrespect, because no,

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I will call you back on this number. And I

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she said, no, you don't call me. I call you

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when I want to. And then Elmanche said, I'm sorry

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for the language, I'm sorry for being angry. With you.

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I'm glad we've got this worked out, and yes, sir, yes, sir,

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we've got this completely worked out. So that level of

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ownership over police chief I have to wonder, Mike, to

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what degree would you be looking internally now within police

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forces the National Guards for people who are taking money

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from the cartel to help go out and set out

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attacks like I sent you this video of what looks

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like maybe an ied truly improvised, But would you be

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looking for internal actors that way that people who are

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spying within their agencies?

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Speaker 3: Well, you have to the decades long phrase in Spanish

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that the cartels have used is plata oplomo silver or lead,

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take our money or take our bullet. And you see,

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when you have a politician or a police chief, they

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try to stand up to the car till they're often

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assassinated within hours of taking office. And that that's been

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happening for decades. So plata or plomo, you know, so

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they don't necessarily have that much of a choice, But yeah,

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you will have to look internally more so and maintain

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an operational security. You have to find those elements within

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the Mexican government and the military that are less corrupt

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I think I think the Mexican Marines have a pretty

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good reputation the So yeah, it's a pervasive problem, you know,

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both politically, militarily and within law enforcement.

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Speaker 1: I'll put this video on the show notes we just

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found this morning, than ascot should pull it. But it

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looks it's shot from a deck and someone who's making

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a video of what looks like a freeway. It looks

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like a pretty rural area. But this, this explosion goes off,

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and I didn't know what to make of it. Just

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to me, hey, something went boom, But you had an

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interesting analysis of the thing that went boom, and the

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angle which was shot looked to me like at least

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the person who was shooting it knew it was going

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to happen, because why would you be shooting video of

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a you know, a remote highway, et cetera. But you

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looked at that and thought that looked like a you know,

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truly improvised explosive device. But tell me what you told

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or tell everybody what you told me about how you

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could tell that's not military grade?

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Speaker 3: Sure? The well, first of all, the video look a

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lot like what you see over in the Middle East,

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like in Iraq and Syria, where someone is set up

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a safe distance away, they know something's going to happen,

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and then sure enough a boom goes off. Yeah, and

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what you saw an explosion was white smoke, which to

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me in the case and improvised explosive device or the like,

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a homemade type explosive, whereas military grade whether artillery shells

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like when we were hit by I D's in Iraq

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using buried artillery shells that were set off by cell

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phones or command wire, those explodes that those explosions resulted

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in black smoke. Okay, and it's one thing like I

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remember back several years during the Boston Marathon bombing and

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I saw those explosions again, white smoke. I knew instantly

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it was some sort of improvised device, not using military

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grade explosives.

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Speaker 1: It is alex Is running this video and yeah, it

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looks like a pretty rural area at least somewhat industrial.

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There's a farm complex, market there, there's the there's the

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thing going boom. That's what Mike saw was the white

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smoke popping off of that.

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Speaker 2: Mike.

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Speaker 1: President Trump had put pressure on the president of Mexico.

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He wanted these cartels shut down he's tired of fetnal

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coming into our country. I'm tired of it. I'm tired

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of watching cartel's own parts of cities. And they do

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own parts of cities. And you are willfully ignorant. If

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you don't notice that there's there's any cop in Seattle,

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will tell you, yeah, this is where the Hon Durans operate.

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This is where the Mexicans operate. Here's where the Russians operate.

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This is a Chinese grow house. They know I've been

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taking to those locations. So he wants this stuff to stop.

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There was a fifteen million dollar bounty on this guy's heads.

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I'm tired of us as world cop mic. That's just me.

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I've never served you guys go do the dangerous stuff.

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I'm just tired of it. But this could spread here.

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If the cartels want to, they can come across our border.

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They can make hits here. This is big business. And

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now the cartels could be fighting for their lives. If

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we have to go down and we have to end this,

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what does that look like from I mean, we've got

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the capabilities to end it, but we've got two thirds

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of our navy outside of Iran. Now, so what does

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that look like if we the United States have to

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say to Mexico, Okay, we're coming, We're going to clean

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this up. But when we end it, we end it

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for real.

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Speaker 3: First, it's going to take a lot of strong army politically,

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Because President Claudia Scheinbaum has come out yesterday and today

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saying she's not going to restart the war against the cartels.

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I think she yeah, we've got that uphill battle.

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Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, does she actually not notice that they

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have perceived this as an active war? Does she fail

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to notice that?

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Speaker 3: Well, all I know is what you know? What is

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what she's saying publicly? Now what cooperations you know is

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happening with us behind the scenes? I don't know. But

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if we decide we have to do something, it's I

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think primarily going to be a special operations fight, which

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will be you know, small teams. We spent a lot

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of time, especially after Trump took office, flying reconstant flights

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along our border. Yeah, and from over Mexico with Mexico's permission.

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And that's you know, intel collection. You're you're mapping out networks,

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You're you're collecting signals, You're you're listening to phone calls

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and you're you're identifying the players, and then it's a

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matter of keeping track where these people are and then

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going and hitting the key players. Yeah, and if you

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go hit your average pipe swinger at your average cicario,

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it's really not going to have much of an impact.

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But it's going to be intel driven and a lot

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of quick, decisive actions trying to go after the leadership

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as high level as possible. Basically, you're breaking into the network,

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you're attacking the network.

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Speaker 1: Okay, then you're destabilizing their network because it might be

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that Al Yogurt now is running the thing, but it

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might not be because last time I checked cartels, they'll

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tell you their businessmen. I mean, I've talked to people

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who lived in Mexico their whole lives. They've met cartel

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bosses who will say, look, we are businessmen, our product

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is illegal. We're forced to act this way. We don't

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want to have to act this way, but this is

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how we do things. But when you're working in that

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world where hey, we'll spill blood at a moment's notice,

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take our money or take our lead, and I imagine

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that if you kill enough of the leadership, now you've

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got you know, third, second, and third and fourth lieutenants

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were they're going to want to battle to own the thing.

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Now they're busy kind of fighting each other, right.

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Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, they're going to battle for what they call

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the plazas, the the areas where things happen. Okay, you've

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got control of you know, border access. I think cartel

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probably makes more money moving people than they do moving drugs.

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Stealing oil in Mexico is a very big business for

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the cartels. So all this, yeah, you're gonna have just

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people trying to fight for new territories, fight for dominance

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and that that's of and that's going to cause a

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lot of spillover violence as well. And that's where you

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could also get more tourist impacts, you know, even if

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it's unintended as far as hurting, uh, you know, actually

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physically harming tourists who were visiting the normally safe areas.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I'll just say this because people everybody

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knows have been to Port of Art like four times,

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maybe five I have to count. I've never experienced any

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fear there. I did at a time when my daughter

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came down. We went to a remote area act we

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meant to go to a resort. We ended up going

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to a town that's the same name. And I've shared this.

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I don't know Mike if I told you this, but

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we walked out into this little town. Our driver, great guy,

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he stayed right on us, and I had a bad

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feeling about the place when we got there and we

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walked a little bit. We walked past a kind of

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pseudo military installation with sandbags and rocks and a couple

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of great, big, huge automatic weapons, and they had a

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homemade sign of a Patriates de Mehicano and the Mexican Patriots.

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And I looked at that and said, that's not military,

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that's not governments. And I realized, my gosh, that's a cartel.

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And they were guarding a dock, and sure enough, there

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were some actual government people out there inspecting boats, but

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they had overwatched from a cartel. And the looks I

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got from the guys as we were walking out there,

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the looks in the eyes. I said to my daughter,

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we're leaving, really, we're leaving. We're done. And we walk

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back and our driver had never really let us out

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of a sight that so one time I've felt afraid.

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So I just want to tell everybody this. I've checked

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in with the team at Renew where I go right now.

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They're safe. No one has been harmed, Praise God. I

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immediately texted Steve and Hector and Caesar and the people

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I know there. So I would just ask you to pray,

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obviously for old, innocent people in Mexico, but for the

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Renew team right now. They've not been impacted and nothing's

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happened near the resorts according to them, and my friends

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are safe down there. It's not lost to me that

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this is a place I go a lot. And instantly

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people are saying, are you gonna stop going? No, I'm

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gonna wait for this to cool down, because Mike, this

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is the thing where I'm at. I'm a little right now.

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I feel a little huffy for some of my fellow

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Americans because a lot of people are saying, Oh, Mexico

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needs to get his garbage together. They can't even control

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their country. They need to learn from the States. And

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I'm thinking, did you watch the Summer of Love? Did

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you see six blocks of downtown Seattle taken over? Did

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you see the shoot and move battles in Lexington, in

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Kentucky and in Saint Louis between domestic terrorists and our cops.

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Have you watched otherwise rational soccer moms becoming people who

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go accost officers as they're trying to make arrests? Do

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you not see that we're not having cartels go blow

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up costcos? But Mike, honestly, goodness, are we that far

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behind given the advance of the Color Revolution in this

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country and the tactics being employed.

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Speaker 3: Not necessarily, I mean, right now, most of the violence

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here in the US is by the most unstable members

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of that side, where you know, they're pretty much going out,

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you know, in mostly as single actors, but occasionally you

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have that small cell like in Texas. Yeah, but the

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calls for violence or within the United States are increasing

474
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from the radical left, and eventually more and more people

475
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are going to take them up on that.

476
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Speaker 1: Okay, because this is what I'm looking at. People are

477
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:07,880
saying to me, well, are you going to stop going

478
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to Portavars? Have I stopped going to Seattle? Am I

479
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not going to go to Portland's?

480
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

481
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Speaker 1: My daughter went to Portland's a few months ago. I said,

482
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please don't go downtown, you know, just just steer away

483
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,480
from downtown. I know you live downtown Portland, but antifas

484
00:25:21,519 --> 00:25:23,960
occupied there, am I going to not, you know, go

485
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,920
to Minneapolis. Probably not, to be honest with you, I

486
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,960
don't have any reason to, but I might like our

487
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,920
country just maybe stop lecturing a little bit. Yes, it's

488
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worse in Mexico, but we don't have a firm control

489
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,720
over cartels operating up here. And this also bothered me.

490
00:25:40,079 --> 00:25:46,519
I'm listening to that conversation between Elmentche and this police chief,

491
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and I'm thinking back to the conversation between Keith Ellison

492
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and the leaders of the small fraud faction, who were saying,

493
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we got you elected, but we're going to need some things.

494
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,640
They weren't threatening to kill people, you know, there's a

495
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,480
difference there. But we were saying to him, we need

496
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you to do some things for us if you're going

497
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to keep our support. And I'm sorry, Mike, I failed

498
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to believe that the cartels haven't taught these techniques to

499
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the Somalians. I fail to believe that cartels aren't in

500
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our country paying off officers and beguilding to build up

501
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,720
the same system. Would they not do that here?

502
00:26:20,279 --> 00:26:23,039
Speaker 3: They certainly would. And some of the stuffs, like folks

503
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from Somalia might have learned this from their own country.

504
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,160
You know where the you know where the level of

505
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,720
corruption is just you know, off the charts. So whether

506
00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:37,759
there's a collusion between the cartels and folks in Minneapolis,

507
00:26:37,799 --> 00:26:41,440
don't know. But there's plenty of cartel activity throughout the country.

508
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,319
Every city now is a border city because of the

509
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,680
drug activity and the impact of the cartels.

510
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 1: So when you talk about situational awareness with people and

511
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,160
you talk about this vanquishing denial, I think we better

512
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have a societal vanquishing of denial.

513
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Speaker 2: Now.

514
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Speaker 1: I look at this mic from a godly perspective, from

515
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a Christian perspective, we're fallen species with a sin issue.

516
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God warned us about time such as these, so I

517
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,480
take my optimism from that. But that doesn't mean that

518
00:27:08,519 --> 00:27:11,559
we shouldn't be prepared. So maybe we need to have

519
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,880
a national baycushing of denial. These cartels operate here, They're

520
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,079
just not ready to take this form of kinetic action

521
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,480
here yet. Is that a rational assumption?

522
00:27:21,599 --> 00:27:26,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're definitely already here. And you have a like

523
00:27:26,079 --> 00:27:28,880
consider kind of a low level insurgency taking place with

524
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,920
a lot of the far left radicals and which are

525
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,759
seeking to stabilize and delegitimize the government of the United States.

526
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I've seen videos where you know, they think they're the

527
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only ones talking amongst themselves calling for the overthrow the

528
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:49,200
United States. They are linked up with the pro Hamas factions,

529
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all calling for the same thing, even though that you know,

530
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if on a level playing field, if they're the only

531
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players left, they would be going against each other.

532
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,599
Speaker 1: Right, And what I'm watching here in our country, and

533
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there's this vanquishing of denial. What I'm asking people to understand,

534
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,279
and there is when this stuff is going on and

535
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,480
we can't stop it or won't stop it, and this

536
00:28:09,519 --> 00:28:12,559
stuff is going on, we had better also begin to

537
00:28:12,599 --> 00:28:16,160
think about situational awareness for families and friends and businesses.

538
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,119
So let's start with this, this this assumption you operate

539
00:28:20,519 --> 00:28:23,799
or live in one of these cities where there's cartel ownership,

540
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And let's start at a business or an organizational level

541
00:28:28,079 --> 00:28:31,480
and work out from there being prepared and being situation

542
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,039
where and protecting yourself. Let's start at an organizational level

543
00:28:35,079 --> 00:28:37,279
in a city like Portland or Seattle, or Los Angeles

544
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or New York, any of these things that are surrounded

545
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by these cartels.

546
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to map out your human terrain, you know,

547
00:28:44,079 --> 00:28:47,559
build your own intelligence networks, you know, within your business,

548
00:28:47,799 --> 00:28:50,720
and it spills over not just with you know, like

549
00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:55,240
fighting insertaencies, fighting cartels. This is even like workplace violence prevention. Now,

550
00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:58,960
if you build a culture within your business where one

551
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,240
of your employees feel safe enough and confident enough to say, hey,

552
00:29:02,279 --> 00:29:06,680
I've got this problem with a relationship outside of work,

553
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,799
but there's a chance they could spill over here. So

554
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:14,359
that's building that trust, building that community within your organization,

555
00:29:14,839 --> 00:29:18,240
and then that will have a cascading effect of making

556
00:29:18,279 --> 00:29:19,079
everyone safer.

557
00:29:19,759 --> 00:29:22,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then once you have that human terrain build,

558
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,880
you know, and you're making everyone feel safe, they can

559
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,680
come and talk to you about things. I want to

560
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,680
talk about some next steps here, because people step back

561
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,200
and they watch what goes on in Mexico and see,

562
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,400
I see that the armshare quarterbacking. Oh, well, you know

563
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,920
the armies better are the cartels a better armed than

564
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,480
the police? Okay, armshare quarterback that's obvious. We see this,

565
00:29:42,319 --> 00:29:43,920
But what are you doing in your backyard? So we'll

566
00:29:44,279 --> 00:29:47,720
talk with Michael Rourke about this. The impact economically is

567
00:29:47,759 --> 00:29:50,240
we're looking at this, there's no doubt that this is

568
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,720
gonna have an impact on tourism. I mean, there's no doubts.

569
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,119
I can't in good conscience tell you to go down

570
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,240
this week to renew. I would be I'd be a fool.

571
00:29:58,519 --> 00:30:01,200
I'd be abusing my position here. Does that mean I'm

572
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,519
not going to go back, No, it doesn't mean that

573
00:30:02,519 --> 00:30:04,119
at all. I'm gonna wait till this cools down and

574
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,960
I'm going to go back. But the economic impact there

575
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,880
can ripple up into here. It's more destabilization. We've got

576
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two thirds of the military at least our navy off

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602
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So you talked about building this human terrain mic. You

603
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,359
talked about that. Next steps wise, if you're an organization

604
00:31:34,599 --> 00:31:36,839
operating these areas around the cartels, are the other things

605
00:31:36,839 --> 00:31:42,440
you should recommend? Physical infrastructure, physical security.

606
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you need like a holistic physical security

607
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,480
survey Okay, find out and find out what your weaknesses are.

608
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,200
You know, if you don't have any policies and procedures

609
00:31:55,279 --> 00:31:58,640
in place, you need to start getting those established. If

610
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,079
you know, if you have folks within the organization that

611
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,880
can handle that, that's great. If not, you probably need

612
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,839
to seek some outside professional guidance. But you need to

613
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,400
look at look at your parameters. Start from the outside

614
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,519
and work your way in. Okay, Now you want to

615
00:32:13,559 --> 00:32:16,640
figure out how to how to harden the place, not

616
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,480
necessarily making it a fortress, but you want to look

617
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at you know, how do you deter bad actors, how

618
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do you deny their access? And then how do you

619
00:32:25,319 --> 00:32:27,519
defend if you have to come down to that.

620
00:32:27,759 --> 00:32:31,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, going back to Mexico, you said you'd heard estimates

621
00:32:31,359 --> 00:32:33,680
of up to forty thousand car TILE members. You mentioned

622
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,599
some of those people are gonna be pike swingers or

623
00:32:35,599 --> 00:32:40,480
just thugs, not necessarily trained operatives. But what you've seen

624
00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:42,599
in some of the some of the weaponry they do have.

625
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,240
You said that they've got rocker prone, rocket propelled grenades,

626
00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:50,039
some other weaponry. So, if it comes down to a

627
00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:53,640
police force action and national guard action based on what

628
00:32:53,759 --> 00:32:57,160
you know, now, if the President of Mexico is pushed

629
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,519
into actually, you know, pushing forward on this, which I

630
00:33:00,519 --> 00:33:03,440
think the cartels are demanding, because they've made some demands.

631
00:33:04,759 --> 00:33:07,680
From what you can tell now, is there a contest

632
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:12,240
between the Mexican military and the cartels in terms of weaponry.

633
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:18,119
Speaker 3: In a larger scale conventional fight, the military will win.

634
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,200
You did things like black and this was yesterday, black

635
00:33:22,519 --> 00:33:26,160
helicopters using mini guns, you know, their door guns, hitting

636
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,359
targets on the ground. You're gonna have a problem with

637
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,240
local police forces that are in the area. They won't

638
00:33:32,319 --> 00:33:35,680
necessarily fight with the cartels, but they probably won't be

639
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,440
helping the government a whole lot. So it'll become more

640
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,720
of a kind of a conventional military fight in a

641
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,279
kind of an urban terrain, and not conventional like tanks

642
00:33:47,279 --> 00:33:50,480
against tanks, but you know, more or less force on force,

643
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,160
and it'll end up devolving into some sort of you know,

644
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,400
probably guerrilla warfare. But and then it's possible to persuade

645
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,559
some of these you know, low level guys. Okay, this

646
00:34:00,599 --> 00:34:03,400
isn't worth it anymore. I'm out of here. But most

647
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,720
of these guys are so dedicated to their cause. They've

648
00:34:05,799 --> 00:34:08,840
killed so many people. You know, these sakarios, these hit men,

649
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,239
they have no qualms about killing their rivals, killing nisent people,

650
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:16,920
so it'll still be violent and quite bloody.

651
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,639
Speaker 1: And right now, my understanding is that the cartels have

652
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,599
not withdrawn I was looking this up. They made a demand.

653
00:34:24,599 --> 00:34:28,159
They want the team that took out Elmanche. And what

654
00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:30,519
they've said to the President of Mexico is, we want

655
00:34:30,559 --> 00:34:32,880
the team. You need to bring the team forward. We

656
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,639
need to know who the team is. And you know

657
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:37,239
what that means. I mean they want their names. Therefore,

658
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:38,880
find out where they live, and they intend to take

659
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:45,280
these guys out. She cannot do that, obviously, But does

660
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,519
she know she can't do that because I'm hearing the

661
00:34:47,559 --> 00:34:50,960
President of Mexico not understand that when you kill Dementche,

662
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,280
you did restart the war, because I think that's how

663
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,920
the cartels look at that. So if they don't meet

664
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that demand, I mean, how do they does a cartel

665
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,599
back off from this? Do they say, oh, never mind?

666
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:05,960
I mean, I know you can't crawl inside their heads.

667
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,000
You've already said that not all of them are rational people.

668
00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:11,440
But I guess I'm wondering how do they actually back

669
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down from this?

670
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Speaker 2: Position.

671
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Speaker 3: Well, if if the government does do that and handle

672
00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:18,599
of these people, then that points to an unprecedented level

673
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of corruption and that probably goes all the way to

674
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:25,199
the very top of the country. Yeah, it remains to

675
00:35:25,199 --> 00:35:27,320
be seeing what the cartel is going to do longer

676
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,719
term if if their demands aren't met. A lot of

677
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,440
the roadblocks I said have been cleared. Yeah, it's still

678
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,239
not safe to travel going to you know, driving across

679
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the border.

680
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

681
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Speaker 3: We had something yesterday where someone asked me for advice.

682
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They had family members that were playing in the travel

683
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,519
tomorrow driving across the border, and I put together product.

684
00:35:46,559 --> 00:35:49,599
I actually sent you that product. Yeah, that persuaded them

685
00:35:49,639 --> 00:35:53,039
to cancel the trip. Yeah, So it still remains to

686
00:35:53,039 --> 00:35:56,079
be seeing what's going to happen longer term. But you know,

687
00:35:56,199 --> 00:36:00,119
can the cartel sustain that level of trying to shut

688
00:36:00,119 --> 00:36:01,599
things down? I'm not sure.

689
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Speaker 1: Okay, there's a long time listener, desh view of our program.

690
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I've ever met in person. I've had her own. She's

691
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an activist. She's down there with sixteen people on a

692
00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:13,400
Christian mission and they were done there doing a vision mission.

693
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And I assume she and her husband they were in

694
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a church. I know there's some groups that do nonprofit

695
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,760
work to get folks out of there, But is this

696
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,639
a thing where people like you, organizations like yours get

697
00:36:25,639 --> 00:36:30,039
contacted by well off people or just desperate people saying

698
00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:33,840
come and get us. And if so, short of having

699
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:38,039
a bunch of former special operators together on a team,

700
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,519
is there any come and get us at this point

701
00:36:40,599 --> 00:36:42,559
right now? Or are these people just stuck?

702
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 3: So the most part, there isn't that much of a

703
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,280
need to go and do any rescues, even though there

704
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,840
is at least one organization that is already a boosts

705
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,760
on the ground ye getting ready to help people. A

706
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,519
lot of the wealthier folks, they'll have insurance that includes

707
00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:06,320
security type rescue. There are organizations that.

708
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Speaker 2: That do that.

709
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Speaker 3: I know when I was working in Afghanistan, we even

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contracted with a with another company for that sort of service.

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So it can definitely happen. I think for the most part,

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we aren't there yet. Maybe some isolated groups might need

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some help getting out through areas that might still be

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cut off. I say, a church group, if they're in

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a more remote area, they might need a security escort

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at least to get back to a larger city. That's

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that's currently safer.

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Speaker 1: Okay. I guess I hear security escorts and I'm looking

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at RPGs and I'm looking at IDs, I'm looking at

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people being captured on the you know, highway, and at

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this point they haven't made a point of killing civilians.

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I mean, and this has to be an order from

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on top, because you've said not all these people are

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rational thus far. When they stop people in their cars,

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they get people out of the cars, they show them away,

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then they like them on fire. I watched a video

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of a gas station guys letting a gas station on fire,

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and they had the employees run and they had this

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lady drive off on her car. Then they let it

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on fire. But I guess I'm looking at security escorts

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and saying, yeah, as long as you have water, you

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can last a long time without food or very very

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limited food. So I guess you're kind of joining with

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the Mexican authorities in our own state department saying stay

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where you're.

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Speaker 3: At, yeah, if it's safe to do so. There are

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a number of companies in Mexico, security companies run by

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Mexicans that will, you know, we'll escort people through areas

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and they might be able to negotiate, you know, their

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way through a got it. I'm not saying that, you know,

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they might not have cartel members among those organizations, but

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they at least beat the local language. Say hey, look

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we've got some foreigners here, we got some missionaries. We

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just want to get them through. You know, they might

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they might have to you know, pay pay a small

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amount of money and say okay, they can get them through,

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but you know that might be a safer way than

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trying to do it on your own.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you'd be wise that you probably have security

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companies saying you're going to want to get some some

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money too, and some cash because we might meet some

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extraordinary tolls. So in terms of situation, awhereenes's keeping everybody safe,

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keeping people safe when they travel. How to business people, churches,

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organizations get in touch with you so you can do

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this this this look into their human resources and their

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policies and then physical preparedness.

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Speaker 3: Sure, they can go to our website at opcon dot com,

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A D O, P, C O N dot com and

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UH and contact us through there. They can email AOC

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dot security at at opcon dot com if they if

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they want to see what we're doing on social media.

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AOC underscore security on both Instagram and uh and on x.

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The company is also up on LinkedIn.

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Speaker 1: Good good and we'll put all that stuff in the

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show notes as well, so to be easy for folks.

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Appreciate you coming on help. Thank you for helping us

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see this through your eyes as far to see through

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yours and mine. And I'm just going to continue to

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pray for my friends down there and all the innocent

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people and good actors trying to bring this thing about

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to a good end. Thank you. I appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: All right, Thanks a lot, Todd.

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Speaker 1: This is the Todd Herman Show. Please go be well,

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be strong, be kind, and please make every effort to

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walk in the light of Christ. And please do pray

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for all the innocent people in the wake of all

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this stuff down there, including my friends. If you would

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please at renew