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<v Speaker 1>You'll be away five seventeen. Do you want to report

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<v Speaker 1>a UFO.

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<v Speaker 2>It?

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<v Speaker 1>We don't want to report every thirty one.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you wish to report a.

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<v Speaker 1>UFO over Hey, we want to one.

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<v Speaker 4>Of those data areas thirty one.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you wish to find a report of any kind

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<v Speaker 3>of it?

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds.

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<v Speaker 1>Time areas thirty one me neither.

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<v Speaker 3>There were seven one golf. If it was anybody as

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<v Speaker 3>above us to pass us, like thirty seconds ago, we

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<v Speaker 3>were sending one of golf negative.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, OFFI the UFO.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's murder ten nine o'clock.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I'll just passed over, I go.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what it was, but it's from at

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<v Speaker 3>least to three thousand feet above us. See, I passed

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<v Speaker 3>out over the top of us.

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<v Speaker 1>Ninety one one.

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<v Speaker 4>You just called up to me before.

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<v Speaker 1>They're after staying the airplanes?

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<v Speaker 4>He is, I towere to God more calm in on

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<v Speaker 4>an unidentified object every liberty four call or calm on

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<v Speaker 4>an unidentified flying object? A right, We'll lock it on.

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<v Speaker 5>Welcome to UFO Chronicles, a place where people share their

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<v Speaker 5>experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had an

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<v Speaker 5>encounter I would like to be on the show. You

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<v Speaker 5>can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello everyone, and welcome to the first episode of twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty six. I hope you all had a great Christmas

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<v Speaker 3>and fully recovered from New Year's Eve, and I wish

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<v Speaker 3>you all the best for the coming year. I'm Nick

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<v Speaker 3>and this is the UFO Chronicles podcast. In this episode, Patricia,

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<v Speaker 3>calling from Canada, walks us through a series of experiences

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<v Speaker 3>that began in early childhood and continued across decades. She

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<v Speaker 3>recalls reoccurring night terrors marked by paralysis and the presence

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<v Speaker 3>of a dark, featureless figure standing in her bedroom doorway.

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<v Speaker 3>Around the same period, she witnessed a UFO, a large

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<v Speaker 3>metallic object moving silently just across the tree line before

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<v Speaker 3>disappearing without a trace. Interwoven in these experiences of vivid dreams,

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<v Speaker 3>episodes of dja vous and the gradual emergence of intuitive

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<v Speaker 3>abilities that Patricia struggles to understand and control. Set against

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<v Speaker 3>the backdrop of workplace trauma, serious illness, and a major

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<v Speaker 3>personal change, she begins to question whether these moments are

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<v Speaker 3>isolated incidents all part of a larger pattern Patricia is

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<v Speaker 3>up next. But first, if you enjoy the show and

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<v Speaker 3>Now on with the show. Hello, Patricia, welcome to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>It is great to have you with us today. And

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<v Speaker 3>you're the first episode of twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, wow.

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<v Speaker 3>To start off the new year. Okay, and you're calling

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<v Speaker 3>from British Columbia, Canada.

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<v Speaker 1>I am, I am, and we are being a wonderful green.

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<v Speaker 3>Winter, wonderful green winter.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we're on the west coast and kind of south

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<v Speaker 1>down the coast, so we don't have to get at

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<v Speaker 1>the snow. We do in the mountains and they can

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<v Speaker 1>stay there that we primarily get the rain. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>okay by.

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<v Speaker 3>Me, that's okay by you. Now, Patricia, you have some

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<v Speaker 3>experiences to share with us. Would you like to start

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<v Speaker 3>the beginning please, ma'am.

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<v Speaker 1>I certainly will. Now I just have to end upon

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<v Speaker 1>your podcast in twenty twenty three, and after listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the wonderful variety of people you've had on on your podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>I started looking back at things that have happened to

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<v Speaker 1>me from a young age to today, and I never

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<v Speaker 1>thought of then possibly being related until I started running

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<v Speaker 1>it all down, and I thought, huh, naty, things are

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<v Speaker 1>all we landed, so hints coming on your show, and

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<v Speaker 1>here we go. I'll start off with my first UFO sighting.

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<v Speaker 1>I was around four years old this nineteen sixty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>figuring it was either early string or lathball because the

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<v Speaker 1>leaves work on the trees. Now, we land out in

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<v Speaker 1>the country only three neighbors, all of which had a

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<v Speaker 1>farm dead end road that dead ends up on the mountains,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's no one around. In the mornings after my

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<v Speaker 1>siblings all went out to school, my mom and I

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<v Speaker 1>were walk across the field and go visit an elderly

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<v Speaker 1>nagger and Mom and her would have coffee in the

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<v Speaker 1>morning and talk about their day, and I'd be in

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<v Speaker 1>the living room watching TV because she actually got the

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<v Speaker 1>cartoon channels run Kenna then't really got one channel that

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<v Speaker 1>she got the good stuff. So I was in the

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<v Speaker 1>living room and there was a big picture window facing southeast,

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<v Speaker 1>and I were talking missus Charmley eight eight thirty in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning, and I was looking at the window and

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<v Speaker 1>there was this huge and then i'd say, thirty feet

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<v Speaker 1>in diameter, a white, kind of unpolescant colored circle, big ball,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was turning clockwise going through the treetops. Almost

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<v Speaker 1>looked like little licks of flames coming off it. That

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<v Speaker 1>really small, like there was no tail, no starts, they

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<v Speaker 1>just this dig rotating circular disk ball going through the treetops.

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<v Speaker 1>And I went past the point where I could see it,

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<v Speaker 1>so I tore out of the living room, ran through

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<v Speaker 1>the kitchen out to the back door, which would be

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<v Speaker 1>now more looking west, and it was gone. And we're talking,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a short distance for me to run, would

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<v Speaker 1>take ten seconds, and it was gone nothing. So I

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<v Speaker 1>came in the house. Course I had run past my

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<v Speaker 1>mom and this Stanley friend and they were like, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you do? What was that all about? I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>say anything because I didn't really know what i'd seen,

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<v Speaker 1>and also didn't think they delete me because it was

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<v Speaker 1>so bizarre different. So yeah, I didn't tell anyone about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually you're the first one, So there you go. World

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<v Speaker 1>next yeah, I actually was thinking about it. Was following

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<v Speaker 1>bad episode between the ages of four and eight, so

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty said, then to seventy one, I started having

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<v Speaker 1>night time paralysis. I don't recall whether i'd still be

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<v Speaker 1>awake or I got woken up, just this huge feeling

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<v Speaker 1>of dread. I can't move, I can move my eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>And I looked towards my door, my which is open,

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<v Speaker 1>and there is a dark shape there. I can't say

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a hand, orange legs, No, it was just this,

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<v Speaker 1>the blowing dark, just a moving black shape. Didn't come

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<v Speaker 1>closer that I'd say, what set and teeth away from

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<v Speaker 1>me and I couldn't move. I felting under, falling asleep.

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<v Speaker 1>After that, I just remember that horrible feeling of dread,

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<v Speaker 1>seeing that black shape, not being able to steak or yell.

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<v Speaker 1>The last time I saw it, I was able to,

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<v Speaker 1>I think in my head, because I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>yelled out loud that in my head, I yelled something like,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't hurt me, gone to text me, go away, Gone,

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<v Speaker 1>will never let you hurt me. And it left. And

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<v Speaker 1>that was the last time that I dealt with that

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<v Speaker 1>night time terror palysis and seeing that black shaped. So

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<v Speaker 1>next with the a paranormal experience, I was around nine

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<v Speaker 1>years old, it would have been a string. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>back to nineteen sixty eight. U sadly, the neighbor that

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<v Speaker 1>we had coffee with, her husband was tragically killed in

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<v Speaker 1>a car accident on the way they worked in the marning.

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<v Speaker 1>We were, actually, my goodness, we were at her house

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning having coffee when she got the phone

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<v Speaker 1>call and I mender her answering the phone and then

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<v Speaker 1>her just falling to the floor, just crying, and month

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<v Speaker 1>took the phone. I heard her talk about the RCND

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<v Speaker 1>and it was later that she told me that he

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<v Speaker 1>had been killed on the way to work, falling Dad.

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<v Speaker 1>Things are kind of fuzzy. Are trying to remember the funeral? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not a whole lot of that. But what I do

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<v Speaker 1>remender was three days after he passed, I'm in Dad,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can hear someone chotting firewood at the nigger's house. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what he did, Aunty Knight. When he got home

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<v Speaker 1>after his shift. He would that was his chore. He'd

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<v Speaker 1>go out, he chot the firewood bringing in and that's

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<v Speaker 1>how Iowings knew that he was home. And this went

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<v Speaker 1>on for like four or five days, where I'd hear

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<v Speaker 1>at night him chotting Thyomon, and so wh I One

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<v Speaker 1>morning I asked my mom, who's helping out the nigger?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I hear someone chotting Thyomon at night? And my

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<v Speaker 1>I's like, no one, and no one's chopping firewood, So

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<v Speaker 1>I was odd. I didn't say anything. I'd say it

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<v Speaker 1>went on or maybe ten days, two weeks, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it stopped, So I don't know. I thought that was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of cool. The other thing again, around the age,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say from quarter or fourteen, I always had dweams

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<v Speaker 1>that ended in me falling through a dark void and

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<v Speaker 1>then physically hitting the nattress. And I mean I felt

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<v Speaker 1>me hit the nattress and I was always falling dackwards.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't feel scared, like you know, scratching or anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that, but it was an odd feeling of just

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<v Speaker 1>falling dackwards to a dark void and then boom, hit

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<v Speaker 1>the mattress. I didn't suddenly gas or air. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I'm again, I'm trying to figure out how

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<v Speaker 1>all these little episodes, how they connect, do they connect?

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<v Speaker 1>I'd see around the age of ten Elendon twelve saw

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of what I think are usos and this

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<v Speaker 1>is myself and the Neigger kids. We actually got some neighbors,

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<v Speaker 1>which was cool, some new people. We play flashlight tag

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, where you know, we all go hide in

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<v Speaker 1>a certain area's pitch dark, and the person who's it

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<v Speaker 1>that's the flashlight, they have to come try and find

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<v Speaker 1>you and under One night in particular, I was hiding

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<v Speaker 1>on top of our dyke shand where we stored our bicycles,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm laying there and looking up at the stars.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this is nineteen seventy door. There were a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of satellites out there, and this star was coming moving

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<v Speaker 1>along and then it stopped and then it went up

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<v Speaker 1>tilly quick, and then down and then dak and then

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<v Speaker 1>it started moving slowly forward again and then it repeated

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<v Speaker 1>that went suddenly uptwilly quick. You know in mind it

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<v Speaker 1>looked like up down is that north south? I can't

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<v Speaker 1>under that? And then it just shot off like no,

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<v Speaker 1>t walk just gone, didn't fad, It just shot off.

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<v Speaker 1>And suddenly two other people in my group they yelled out,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, did you see that? And I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was so cool, and then other people came out

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<v Speaker 1>of hiding that had seen it as well, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>the poor guy that was it with the flashlight. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, what are you doing? You're all coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of hiding. I had thinking that we were all so

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<v Speaker 1>excited because it was weird. It was bigger than Venus,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was a good size, and yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 1>moving romantically, and then it just took off. So glad

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<v Speaker 1>I had witnesses that I had seen that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>in the night sky here, just smaller though that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote would look like Starr and then they start

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<v Speaker 1>moving and then they do radically and then take off.

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<v Speaker 1>So now it's cool. Now that's what. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>January twenty eighth, nineteen eighty six, which once the Stage

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<v Speaker 1>Shuttle disaster, I had a friend over and she was

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<v Speaker 1>they showing these old news clips the subtle disaster, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it now? And why is she shocked? This is old news?

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<v Speaker 1>But when I said it to her, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>This just happened? And I just stood there silently, my

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<v Speaker 1>that this had happened a while ago. Again, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>extent has happened since I hope it doesn't. So, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>little later. The next interesting thing nineteen eighty eight. I

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<v Speaker 1>shop bookstore, really cool, and I my friends are in

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm kind of looking around, kind of going yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And he said, I have the message for you, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>can we move to another location where it's a little

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<v Speaker 1>safe place. So we moved to more qinder corner on

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<v Speaker 1>the big store and he asked if he could take

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<v Speaker 1>where he's called, and that he will be leaving soon,

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<v Speaker 1>that they'll compelled to give them a message before he left.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm kind of looking at and thinking, okay, continue,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was like okay. He said that I am

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<v Speaker 1>a new soul and I'm here on earth to earn

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<v Speaker 1>my wings. And he said, now many tito will be

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<v Speaker 1>drawn to you to me. They canceled my light and

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<v Speaker 1>they he drawn to meet their guidance. That He also

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<v Speaker 1>said that many would be angry at me and attacked

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<v Speaker 1>me because my light would extone what highlight their darkness,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I needed to dig the cared for bannal

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<v Speaker 1>because of their anger towarrant me. Hence I de earning

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<v Speaker 1>my wings. I just looked at him. I mean a

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<v Speaker 1>little of it. They'll kind of right with the being

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<v Speaker 1>a new soul because I don't feel like an old soul.

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<v Speaker 1>But I again didn't know what to say, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just said thank you, and I wished him well on

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<v Speaker 1>his tripped his upcoming tripped and retarded ways. I found

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<v Speaker 1>it again. I found it. I wasn't scared. I really

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<v Speaker 1>didn't feel weird that I was cautious because I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this gentleman, someone who got lesson that you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>wants to feel steciled, so he does this. It's part

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<v Speaker 1>of his I don't know, persona to make himself feel

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that he's got against I don't know, but yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he wasn't causing any harm, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>feel scared, and I just found it really interesting. I

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<v Speaker 1>then went to my friends who were sitting in the

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<v Speaker 1>coffee shop and I shared a little bit. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>Delive and that he said that I was a new

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<v Speaker 1>soul and I'm here earning my wings. That's all I said.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, they were just like, okay, what other anyhow,

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<v Speaker 1>and they kept talking, so I didn't bring it up again.

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<v Speaker 1>I just kind of get that to myself. So I

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to the whole earning my wings and the banners,

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<v Speaker 1>because it actually did happen that I want to cover

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<v Speaker 1>something first before I talk about those banners. Okay, here's

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<v Speaker 1>where it gets done. Nineteen ninety five, I went around

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<v Speaker 1>being study que I had the opportunity to travel with

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<v Speaker 1>the colleague from work to her home, which was Czechoslovakia.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, now it's the Czech repnflict that that then

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<v Speaker 1>it was Czechoslovakia, and I didn't speak a word of

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<v Speaker 1>the Czech language to the court. She was my translator,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. Was a wonderful trip, wonderful experience. That one

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<v Speaker 1>night I went with her and a group of her

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<v Speaker 1>friends were getting together this one lady's apartment, so I

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<v Speaker 1>went along and they were all chatting away and anty down,

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<v Speaker 1>and then my friend went translate what was going on.

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<v Speaker 1>And at one point the lady, the owner of the apartment,

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<v Speaker 1>brought out a dunch of drawings. They were basically like doodles,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of just scriggles and doodles and nothing like, not

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<v Speaker 1>like she's drawing a tree or building. There were more doodles,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's showing her trends and she's got them laid

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<v Speaker 1>out on the table, and my friend translates that this lady,

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<v Speaker 1>while she talks to title on the phone, she just

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<v Speaker 1>gets the urge to doodle. She knows they mean something

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<v Speaker 1>that she doesn't know what. So my friend kid's talking

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<v Speaker 1>to everyone else in check and I'm looking at this

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<v Speaker 1>one drawing and something catches my eye and I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>to my friend, oh, look, well look here. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I see this person and they're standing here, and now

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<v Speaker 1>I see this, and the words just flow. The more

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<v Speaker 1>I talk, the more I saw, And my friend is

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<v Speaker 1>rapidly translating to her friend who's donning her hand, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just keep talking and then it's like that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I see. And then she puts another one in front

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<v Speaker 1>of me and nod onto her hands. So I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So I look at the doodle and again something catches

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<v Speaker 1>my eye and I just start talking about what I see,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's the theme is all people that they're dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with situations, whatever, and they're at an intense they're at

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<v Speaker 1>a point where they need to make a decision and

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<v Speaker 1>that'll take okay, you know what direction they're gonna go.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty significant stuff that that's kind of the thing of

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<v Speaker 1>everything I was seeing and dying the fourth one, I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stopped and looked at my friend. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on? And my friend tells me that I

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<v Speaker 1>am describing exactly what's going on in each of those

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<v Speaker 1>store people's lives, which blew me away. There's no way

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<v Speaker 1>I could have known. And in a different country they're

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of different language. What was this all about. The

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<v Speaker 1>lady then hands me another one, another drying, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>tapping it and smiling and saying please please. So it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm looking at at this and the drawing was

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<v Speaker 1>like a giant X that really wide, and in the

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<v Speaker 1>very center on the X was a small box and

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<v Speaker 1>in the docks what I could see was a little

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<v Speaker 1>stick tigger and one arm was reaching up towards the

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<v Speaker 1>upper right cross of the X. That that makes sense,

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<v Speaker 1>and the other arm was reaching down towards the left

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<v Speaker 1>hand side, the bottom lying on the X. That that

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense. And I looked at it and it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this person is having to make a major decision now

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<v Speaker 1>if you look, if they decide to go and towards

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<v Speaker 1>this upper carniv X, their journey initially isn't going to

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, rocky times, it's going to be really good.

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<v Speaker 1>If they choose this path, it's going to work out

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<v Speaker 1>that it's not going to be easy. Actor it's going

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<v Speaker 1>be smooth sailing. Now, looking down at this and their choice,

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<v Speaker 1>it winds, I said, it's going to look really easy,

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<v Speaker 1>really nice. Really oh yeah, this is what's meant to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I said that it's a rap because if you look

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<v Speaker 1>further down it is so dark. So scriggled in, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>really easy and very welcoming. That then it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>the lady started crying because this was her doodle that

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<v Speaker 1>she felt compelled to draw one night. And again I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know what was going on, so my friend translated.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, she was translating everything I was saying. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the lady told her what was going on, and

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<v Speaker 1>she translated to me like she had been. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a group of self proclaimed witches who wanted her. They

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what you.

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<v Speaker 1>really lovely teetle and they really wanted they were really

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<v Speaker 1>I guess containing her. I can't pick up and take

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<v Speaker 1>a word right now, that really encouraging her to join them.

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<v Speaker 1>She was leary and actually was starting to look into

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<v Speaker 1>joining a church, a non denominational church, and pursuing more

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<v Speaker 1>towards God, and maybe her gifts were more from God

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<v Speaker 1>that she just wasn't sure because she didn't have good

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<v Speaker 1>experiences in the task with churches that this was a

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<v Speaker 1>non denominational one. So she was struggling which way to go,

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<v Speaker 1>and she gazed on what I said She's like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, I'm going to follow the church. I was

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<v Speaker 1>blown away. Nothing like this has been online radar. I

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<v Speaker 1>neither did the Weedy Doors anything like this, So I

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't know what to say. It was at that

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<v Speaker 1>middle of my forehand. It was really uncomfortable, and I

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<v Speaker 1>doing the drawings. She immediately kissed my forehand and it

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<v Speaker 1>went away. So again, at the time, I just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know what to think about it at all. I also

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know anything about chakras or crown chakra, which I'll

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<v Speaker 1>get to later on. So yeah, after that we walked home.

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<v Speaker 1>My trend who I traveled with her and her friends

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<v Speaker 1>are just chattering into kind of like walking and trying

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<v Speaker 1>I just yeah, I didn't know what to say, and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't talk about it at all when we got back.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was three months later when I myself,

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<v Speaker 1>I work in an outreach clinic, so setter from the

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<v Speaker 1>Name center where this friend I traveled with work. So

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<v Speaker 1>From the name Center. Anyhow, I was in the outreach

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<v Speaker 1>clinic and a nether colleague I worked with. She was

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<v Speaker 1>yeah on my trip, And she got all excited. She

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<v Speaker 1>of track dance that had a bleach mark on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently she had she was cleaning her bathroom, knailing on

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<v Speaker 1>the tile, still simply, and this mark got on her

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<v Speaker 1>track pants and it was the exact imprint of an

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<v Speaker 1>intense quote. And of course she's taking there, must see

418
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<v Speaker 1>something do this because she works with intents. So she

419
00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:18.360
<v Speaker 1>was asking me if I could do a reading for her.

420
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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, this isn't a doodle. It's a bleach mark.

421
00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:30.079
<v Speaker 1>Like I can't do, Like it's not the same that

422
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:32.159
<v Speaker 1>you know. She was like, no, no, no, just look

423
00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:35.599
<v Speaker 1>at it and see if there's anything you can see

424
00:37:36.280 --> 00:37:39.800
<v Speaker 1>the other thing. I said, Well, this isn't it. I

425
00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:45.679
<v Speaker 1>do see something. I know you I kind of know

426
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:50.119
<v Speaker 1>what's going on in your world, So that's gonna mess

427
00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:55.559
<v Speaker 1>things out, so and that Nope, she was really insistent.

428
00:37:55.800 --> 00:38:00.320
<v Speaker 1>I thought, okay, So I looked at this bleach mark,

429
00:38:01.360 --> 00:38:08.280
<v Speaker 1>and again I'm drawn to something in the in the

430
00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:12.360
<v Speaker 1>gym scene. I can't tell you what. I'm just drawn

431
00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:18.679
<v Speaker 1>to something. And I said, okay, well, hm, I see

432
00:38:18.960 --> 00:38:24.559
<v Speaker 1>a little face here and it's looking angry. And then

433
00:38:24.599 --> 00:38:30.559
<v Speaker 1>I just started talking again. I was staying on about

434
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:36.639
<v Speaker 1>something that was going on in her world. That I

435
00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:44.559
<v Speaker 1>had no idea, not a clue, that this situation was happening,

436
00:38:44.679 --> 00:38:50.000
<v Speaker 1>and that if she had something to do with her

437
00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:56.880
<v Speaker 1>son and his new girlfriend, and she needed to her

438
00:38:56.920 --> 00:39:03.880
<v Speaker 1>and husband needed to change change how they approached the

439
00:39:04.039 --> 00:39:09.519
<v Speaker 1>girlfriend and dealt with her. If they didn't, it was

440
00:39:09.639 --> 00:39:15.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna push her son away. That if they did things

441
00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:19.800
<v Speaker 1>a little differently, and was really going to bring them

442
00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:27.320
<v Speaker 1>together as a very strong Stanly unit going forward again,

443
00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:32.599
<v Speaker 1>honor the blue. No idea, and I was daying on

444
00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:37.800
<v Speaker 1>and this was a bitch mark, not a doodle.

445
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<v Speaker 1>So now afterwards, I really didn't know what to think

455
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<v Speaker 1>about the soul. Now I do believe in God. I

456
00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:37.000
<v Speaker 1>don't go to any church or anything that I do

457
00:40:38.159 --> 00:40:41.280
<v Speaker 1>to believe in gone. And I'm like praying to Hill

458
00:40:41.440 --> 00:40:46.960
<v Speaker 1>going or he heard them that who knows, saying Okay,

459
00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:52.199
<v Speaker 1>I trust that this is a gift from you because

460
00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:58.960
<v Speaker 1>it's all the stuff I've done. It was sertito. Yeah,

461
00:40:59.079 --> 00:41:04.039
<v Speaker 1>basically we're at a point and in Tats, I keep

462
00:41:04.199 --> 00:41:09.920
<v Speaker 1>using that word. They needed incarnation to help them make

463
00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:16.920
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote the right decision, the death decision. And so

464
00:41:18.599 --> 00:41:22.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm really you know, I paid, I said, listen, if

465
00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:26.639
<v Speaker 1>they get discern you, I want to use it correctly,

466
00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:32.039
<v Speaker 1>use it when it's needed. I'm not gonna approach a

467
00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:35.280
<v Speaker 1>person and say, hey, do you want a doodle something

468
00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:38.639
<v Speaker 1>corney and then I can tell you, you know, no,

469
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:46.000
<v Speaker 1>if someone needs help and I'm the one that can

470
00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:51.719
<v Speaker 1>help them direct computing. I don't feel comfort go going

471
00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:57.719
<v Speaker 1>out there and you know, looking for people and forcing

472
00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:01.880
<v Speaker 1>things on them. If they're not read for the message,

473
00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:06.960
<v Speaker 1>then no, I really feel if it's meant to be,

474
00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:15.079
<v Speaker 1>then they're ready for the message. It'll happen. So that's

475
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:19.599
<v Speaker 1>kind of where I left that that it did. The

476
00:42:19.679 --> 00:42:25.000
<v Speaker 1>whole greeting thing, reading of doodles or just readings does

477
00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:32.280
<v Speaker 1>come back, and it's happening currently that I'll get to that. Okay,

478
00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:37.639
<v Speaker 1>now I think next I'll talk about and this is

479
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<v Speaker 1>again going back to the pre cognition possibility. This ay

480
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:53.079
<v Speaker 1>ages twelve to thirty two. I've always had vivid dreams.

481
00:42:53.599 --> 00:42:57.480
<v Speaker 1>There's junk dreams. I call them junk dreams, which I

482
00:42:57.719 --> 00:43:02.400
<v Speaker 1>just read playing it's in pieces on your day shows

483
00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:06.960
<v Speaker 1>you see thanks to you left sand that. Then there's

484
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:16.320
<v Speaker 1>the real vivid. There's meaning behind this dream and one

485
00:43:16.519 --> 00:43:22.119
<v Speaker 1>that me occurred over I'm older, bring inches twelve to

486
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:31.000
<v Speaker 1>thirty two. When's me trying to walk, I'm not scared.

487
00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not running away that It's like I'm walking to

488
00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:44.840
<v Speaker 1>water that's up to my thighs. So you're trying to

489
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:49.920
<v Speaker 1>move douter that you can't because of the drag of

490
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:55.960
<v Speaker 1>the water. It's really slowing you down and it's exhausting.

491
00:43:56.840 --> 00:44:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Now again, I'm not scared, I'm not trying to run away.

492
00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:13.360
<v Speaker 1>That it's really hard to walk, dastard to two thousand

493
00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:18.719
<v Speaker 1>and four. So we're talking what ten years more than

494
00:44:18.800 --> 00:44:24.039
<v Speaker 1>ten years nineteen seventy five to ninetythis I had these dreams.

495
00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:30.760
<v Speaker 1>In two thousand and four, I got definitively diagnosed with

496
00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:40.519
<v Speaker 1>degenerative neuro muscular disorder that affects it's really rare, of

497
00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:49.159
<v Speaker 1>course it is, and it's called oculothyngeal distal muscular districty

498
00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:54.760
<v Speaker 1>and you can hear it now in my speech being slurred,

499
00:44:55.639 --> 00:45:03.760
<v Speaker 1>that it affects all your voluntary they progressively become weaker

500
00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:11.320
<v Speaker 1>and weaker. It's slow progressing jippy. That no treatment, so

501
00:45:11.559 --> 00:45:16.960
<v Speaker 1>where there's little to no research, and as I started

502
00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:23.039
<v Speaker 1>losing next day, that's exactly what I felt like walking

503
00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:30.039
<v Speaker 1>through thiney water. The horney try, the more exhausted you get,

504
00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:35.320
<v Speaker 1>you can do nothing about it. That's exactly what it

505
00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:42.159
<v Speaker 1>was like. So yay or quick que cognitive dreams. I

506
00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:47.400
<v Speaker 1>knew what was coming. So the dreams are trying to

507
00:45:47.760 --> 00:45:54.079
<v Speaker 1>get to thinety water. Let's start around nineteen ninety five.

508
00:45:54.960 --> 00:46:03.519
<v Speaker 1>And then they changed. Yeah, then started My dreams are

509
00:46:03.559 --> 00:46:10.800
<v Speaker 1>no longer me walking and all that me floating, just

510
00:46:11.360 --> 00:46:19.079
<v Speaker 1>floating about the forests around our farm. Yeah, they really

511
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:28.920
<v Speaker 1>gently floating above fields and task yours and new was well.

512
00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:37.760
<v Speaker 1>What I found was if I, in my dream tried

513
00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:44.079
<v Speaker 1>to direct where I was going, I started to lose altitude.

514
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:49.960
<v Speaker 1>As soon as I stopped thinking, oh, I really want

515
00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:52.519
<v Speaker 1>to go over there, I really want to go over

516
00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:59.239
<v Speaker 1>here and just let myself float, whether I get taken

517
00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:06.639
<v Speaker 1>and just enjoy the ride, I went gain altitude and

518
00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:16.119
<v Speaker 1>continue floating around. That was like really consistent. As soon

519
00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:21.239
<v Speaker 1>as I tried to take control and direct, I'd start

520
00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:29.360
<v Speaker 1>losing altitude. And I really thought about that, and my

521
00:47:29.559 --> 00:47:37.719
<v Speaker 1>interpretation is more spiritual that if I just let God

522
00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:44.639
<v Speaker 1>directly and you know, as opportunities come up though, take

523
00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:47.679
<v Speaker 1>them and if it works, it works, that's where I'm entity.

524
00:47:48.400 --> 00:47:53.800
<v Speaker 1>If something is real struggle then means I'm not supposed

525
00:47:53.840 --> 00:47:59.440
<v Speaker 1>to do this. So that's kind of how I interpreted

526
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:03.960
<v Speaker 1>when my dream started to change that way, that you know,

527
00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:10.679
<v Speaker 1>if I to just trust that I'm doing the right

528
00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:15.800
<v Speaker 1>thing and just keep going the direction you're being directed.

529
00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:24.239
<v Speaker 1>That makes sense then, So that was yeah, during moving on,

530
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:28.239
<v Speaker 1>and this is where it starts getting interesting with the

531
00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:33.079
<v Speaker 1>whole earning my wings. A little bit after sis is

532
00:48:33.159 --> 00:48:39.280
<v Speaker 1>again age study two, I had traveled to the Czech Retuggle,

533
00:48:39.519 --> 00:48:44.239
<v Speaker 1>et cetera. My dream started to change. They were those

534
00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:50.320
<v Speaker 1>nice floating dreams. And then instead of the whole losing

535
00:48:50.360 --> 00:48:54.519
<v Speaker 1>altitude because I was trying to direct where I wanted

536
00:48:54.559 --> 00:49:02.400
<v Speaker 1>to go, I was having struggle loading up de console

537
00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:10.039
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote power lines nine nine three. These were real

538
00:49:11.320 --> 00:49:17.800
<v Speaker 1>high dud electric tower lines. I was either trying to

539
00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:22.280
<v Speaker 1>avoid running in them into them as I floaded up,

540
00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:27.239
<v Speaker 1>or I once about them. This should be trying to

541
00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:36.119
<v Speaker 1>avoid using altitude and kidding these tower lines. Now the

542
00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:46.639
<v Speaker 1>interpretation these tower lines equate to tito in power dang on.

543
00:49:47.480 --> 00:49:51.719
<v Speaker 1>So this was between the ages of twenty nine and

544
00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:56.599
<v Speaker 1>thirty five, so nineteen ninety two to nineteen ninety eight.

545
00:49:57.360 --> 00:50:03.960
<v Speaker 1>What happened. This was the job at the Senate. I again,

546
00:50:04.280 --> 00:50:08.480
<v Speaker 1>I was in the outreach clinic, only went in to

547
00:50:08.599 --> 00:50:13.800
<v Speaker 1>the main center once a week to do administrative take

548
00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:17.880
<v Speaker 1>to work, meet with my supervisor, et cetera, et cetera.

549
00:50:18.440 --> 00:50:25.440
<v Speaker 1>All good, happy, happy, great staff. It was around sending

550
00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:31.440
<v Speaker 1>the title work there, all good, no issues. Then what

551
00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:37.519
<v Speaker 1>happened once the gentleman I worked with off and on

552
00:50:37.719 --> 00:50:44.440
<v Speaker 1>in my outreach center. He was the chief stewart of

553
00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:48.320
<v Speaker 1>our union. We didn't have any issues that I knew

554
00:50:48.320 --> 00:50:52.760
<v Speaker 1>about that. He asked you at one point if I

555
00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:58.119
<v Speaker 1>would be the assistant chief steward so that he wasn't

556
00:50:58.199 --> 00:51:04.679
<v Speaker 1>able to make meetings or et cetera. Languid Dylan, and

557
00:51:04.719 --> 00:51:07.400
<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, I didn't really know what it

558
00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:13.840
<v Speaker 1>all meant. Well, subsequently, a couple months after that, he

559
00:51:14.519 --> 00:51:20.960
<v Speaker 1>went the center, so I immediately became chief stewart. That

560
00:51:21.119 --> 00:51:26.159
<v Speaker 1>big deal. So I when I went into the center

561
00:51:26.199 --> 00:51:30.119
<v Speaker 1>of the one day week name center, I normally do

562
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:37.639
<v Speaker 1>the CEO on the organization and I worked for asked

563
00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:42.400
<v Speaker 1>to meet with me and so no com Now I've

564
00:51:42.440 --> 00:51:49.280
<v Speaker 1>always been until the Pauliana person still kind of am.

565
00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:57.280
<v Speaker 1>I truly believe there's good and everyone and if they

566
00:51:57.280 --> 00:52:02.239
<v Speaker 1>are nasty or something that happens, there's a good reason,

567
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:06.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, because down to the core they're really not

568
00:52:07.599 --> 00:52:10.920
<v Speaker 1>damn people they just you know, they find a dwn

569
00:52:11.079 --> 00:52:14.159
<v Speaker 1>time and that's figure it out and it's all good.

570
00:52:14.320 --> 00:52:21.119
<v Speaker 1>Well braah rah. Well yeah, Unfortunately I that kind of

571
00:52:21.159 --> 00:52:25.559
<v Speaker 1>got shattered because I ended up dealing with people that

572
00:52:25.960 --> 00:52:36.159
<v Speaker 1>just when mean and nasty, dedictive, controlling, love to manipulate

573
00:52:36.519 --> 00:52:42.360
<v Speaker 1>others to do their dirty work kind of people. And

574
00:52:42.800 --> 00:52:47.400
<v Speaker 1>that's what I ended up dealing with. My first dealing

575
00:52:47.519 --> 00:52:53.119
<v Speaker 1>with the CEO, he right away said if any staff

576
00:52:53.239 --> 00:52:58.360
<v Speaker 1>mender coaches me with issues that I'm not to report

577
00:52:58.440 --> 00:53:02.440
<v Speaker 1>to the union to We talked to him and he

578
00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:07.400
<v Speaker 1>would deal with those staff members and I n easy

579
00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:12.400
<v Speaker 1>was like, no, you know, that's not how it works.

580
00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:16.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they talk to me and if it's a

581
00:53:16.360 --> 00:53:21.320
<v Speaker 1>work related to that we can't resolved, then of course

582
00:53:21.400 --> 00:53:24.800
<v Speaker 1>we might have to include the union that you know,

583
00:53:24.920 --> 00:53:30.960
<v Speaker 1>we all work together, happy happy No. I was told

584
00:53:31.039 --> 00:53:35.639
<v Speaker 1>that right that I was never to do that, no

585
00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:42.440
<v Speaker 1>union adulment, keep things under the table, which I didn't

586
00:53:43.039 --> 00:53:49.119
<v Speaker 1>because that's not what to do. Long in short, I

587
00:53:49.199 --> 00:53:58.599
<v Speaker 1>became a target undenounced to me. Apparently the CEO and

588
00:53:59.760 --> 00:54:09.039
<v Speaker 1>the on the six department heads had been doing misappropriating

589
00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:16.440
<v Speaker 1>funds that was meant for the center. And I guess yeah,

590
00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:22.960
<v Speaker 1>doing some illegal things that they thought I knew about,

591
00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:30.320
<v Speaker 1>And so I became the focal point of their attacks.

592
00:54:31.840 --> 00:54:36.800
<v Speaker 1>They were harassing me horridly doing you know, trying to

593
00:54:36.920 --> 00:54:46.280
<v Speaker 1>wound my reputation and studying rumors and convincing other staff

594
00:54:46.360 --> 00:54:52.599
<v Speaker 1>lenders because the department hands were really good putting on

595
00:54:52.840 --> 00:54:57.559
<v Speaker 1>the act and crying during staff meetings, telling all the

596
00:54:57.719 --> 00:55:03.639
<v Speaker 1>staffers that I was this horrible person bringing down the center.

597
00:55:04.480 --> 00:55:07.719
<v Speaker 1>They were at a loss to what to do with me,

598
00:55:08.119 --> 00:55:12.639
<v Speaker 1>and thu blah bah. So I started getting calls at

599
00:55:12.639 --> 00:55:19.280
<v Speaker 1>home from staffers who were really angry, telling me I

600
00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:22.679
<v Speaker 1>needed to quit, that how could I do this to

601
00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:26.920
<v Speaker 1>the center, how could I destroy it? Now? I couldn't

602
00:55:26.960 --> 00:55:32.519
<v Speaker 1>say anything because there was an investigation going on, just

603
00:55:33.039 --> 00:55:35.760
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know about the money that I was told

604
00:55:36.840 --> 00:55:40.559
<v Speaker 1>that I couldn't share any sort of things that are

605
00:55:40.599 --> 00:55:44.280
<v Speaker 1>going on, just to stay quiet that it was deemed

606
00:55:44.400 --> 00:55:49.039
<v Speaker 1>dealt with. So all I can say to the stats was,

607
00:55:50.199 --> 00:55:54.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, when the truth comes out, it's really gonna

608
00:55:54.199 --> 00:55:58.920
<v Speaker 1>hurt hang in there. I can't say much that just

609
00:55:59.360 --> 00:56:02.480
<v Speaker 1>need to take that it's not going to be nice

610
00:56:03.159 --> 00:56:06.920
<v Speaker 1>when the truth comes out, and took a while that

611
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:13.599
<v Speaker 1>it did. All those staff members, the determined heads and

612
00:56:13.760 --> 00:56:17.559
<v Speaker 1>the CEO, they did get tired. They had to deal

613
00:56:18.480 --> 00:56:24.000
<v Speaker 1>with the judicial system. When the anger trade that came

614
00:56:24.119 --> 00:56:27.559
<v Speaker 1>to the Senate, he was really angry because I guess

615
00:56:27.679 --> 00:56:31.119
<v Speaker 1>the enount that he did allowed to go on that

616
00:56:31.400 --> 00:56:36.360
<v Speaker 1>hadn't been a dressed earlier. He was really angry about it. Yeah,

617
00:56:36.440 --> 00:56:42.119
<v Speaker 1>they had to bring in debating counselors because the staff

618
00:56:42.199 --> 00:56:47.440
<v Speaker 1>were understandingly very angry because they didn't like to they've

619
00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:52.159
<v Speaker 1>been used. When you get that mixture of people who

620
00:56:52.159 --> 00:56:55.760
<v Speaker 1>are like, no, no, no, there's no way I there's

621
00:56:55.800 --> 00:56:59.719
<v Speaker 1>no way I could have been hundling. Yeah you were. Yeah,

622
00:57:00.039 --> 00:57:07.000
<v Speaker 1>So my little light to expose their darkness kind of

623
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<v Speaker 1>hearkens back to what that gentleman said in the bookstore.

624
00:57:12.840 --> 00:57:17.639
<v Speaker 1>I won't deny that it totally. It did shadowy. It

625
00:57:17.679 --> 00:57:22.239
<v Speaker 1>was really a hard wake up call that there are

626
00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:28.320
<v Speaker 1>nasty people out there. So, yeah, tough time. Then we

627
00:57:28.440 --> 00:57:33.519
<v Speaker 1>got to it now. During all of that, all the

628
00:57:33.559 --> 00:57:37.800
<v Speaker 1>stuff going on in the center, my original department can

629
00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:42.400
<v Speaker 1>she was really young. She supported me in that she

630
00:57:42.639 --> 00:57:47.360
<v Speaker 1>was up against the wall with all the deader department cans.

631
00:57:47.719 --> 00:57:52.480
<v Speaker 1>She actually ended up quitting. So her new atartment head

632
00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:58.679
<v Speaker 1>was draught on and she was really I mean, obviously

633
00:57:58.840 --> 00:58:03.360
<v Speaker 1>she was told I so congment that she needed to

634
00:58:03.840 --> 00:58:08.639
<v Speaker 1>monitor me really closely, so I had to be getter

635
00:58:09.119 --> 00:58:15.360
<v Speaker 1>than perfect with all my taperwork, et cetera. Now she

636
00:58:15.599 --> 00:58:19.840
<v Speaker 1>had been I hadn't met her yet. It was her

637
00:58:20.119 --> 00:58:24.280
<v Speaker 1>first week at the job. Anyhow, one night I had

638
00:58:24.320 --> 00:58:27.199
<v Speaker 1>a dream and this was one of mine. Did the

639
00:58:27.400 --> 00:58:31.679
<v Speaker 1>dream to precognitive, I guess. So I was seeing this

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00:58:32.920 --> 00:58:37.440
<v Speaker 1>inside this very tall kind of like a tower building,

641
00:58:37.960 --> 00:58:43.920
<v Speaker 1>and I was sloathing floating us to these serious rooms,

642
00:58:44.519 --> 00:58:49.599
<v Speaker 1>and behind me, underneath me, I could hear a very angry,

643
00:58:49.880 --> 00:58:56.760
<v Speaker 1>gnarling dog that's chasing me. Now I feel really comfortable

644
00:58:57.480 --> 00:59:00.719
<v Speaker 1>that I'm I'm gone with the aim to get out

645
00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:06.199
<v Speaker 1>of this tower, this building, and everything's gonna be okay.

646
00:59:06.880 --> 00:59:11.079
<v Speaker 1>Then I feel a tug on my hand and I

647
00:59:11.199 --> 00:59:15.280
<v Speaker 1>look down and I see this woman looking up the

648
00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:20.400
<v Speaker 1>me with this terrified base and I'm telling her, hey,

649
00:59:20.559 --> 00:59:25.599
<v Speaker 1>it's okay, just keep holding my hand. We're gonna get out,

650
00:59:26.039 --> 00:59:29.559
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be safe. The next scene, her and I

651
00:59:29.599 --> 00:59:34.679
<v Speaker 1>are standing outside of this tower and we can still

652
00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:40.679
<v Speaker 1>hear the snarling dog running up the stairs, and she's

653
00:59:40.840 --> 00:59:45.000
<v Speaker 1>hiding behind me on my arms up, protecting her, and

654
00:59:45.079 --> 00:59:50.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, it's okay, You're gonna be okay, it's all safe.

655
00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:58.400
<v Speaker 1>The next scene, the snarling dog is gone and it's

656
00:59:58.519 --> 01:00:04.719
<v Speaker 1>actually was my CEO, and he's walking away from us,

657
01:00:04.960 --> 01:00:10.519
<v Speaker 1>holding the hand of another name, and my thoughts are, oh,

658
01:00:10.559 --> 01:00:17.039
<v Speaker 1>thank goodness, now he's going to be happy. That one's

659
01:00:17.079 --> 01:00:21.719
<v Speaker 1>the dream. I will up to that, going, huh, that's more.

660
01:00:21.800 --> 01:00:27.079
<v Speaker 1>In two days, I'm in the center on my one

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01:00:27.159 --> 01:00:33.239
<v Speaker 1>day and I'm scheduled to meet my new supervisor. I

662
01:00:33.400 --> 01:00:38.719
<v Speaker 1>walk in the office and I nearly throw up. It's

663
01:00:38.800 --> 01:00:41.920
<v Speaker 1>the baby from my dream.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

665
01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:47.840
<v Speaker 1>And that's when I knew, okay, it's all gonna work out.

666
01:00:48.679 --> 01:00:56.639
<v Speaker 1>It's all gonna be okay. Now. Subsequently, this new supervisor, Yeah,

667
01:00:56.840 --> 01:01:01.199
<v Speaker 1>she really wrote me hard. I had to better than perfect.

668
01:01:02.119 --> 01:01:08.519
<v Speaker 1>That she wasn't finding money, godless, this woman, she wasn't

669
01:01:08.599 --> 01:01:15.159
<v Speaker 1>finding any problems. So she really started doing her own investigating.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's when she's like, wait a minute, this is

671
01:01:19.679 --> 01:01:25.119
<v Speaker 1>all lies. So one day, Hanna and the Young Witch

672
01:01:25.239 --> 01:01:30.159
<v Speaker 1>clinic and I get this phone call and it's her

673
01:01:30.960 --> 01:01:36.840
<v Speaker 1>and she is terrified. She's locked in her office. She's

674
01:01:36.960 --> 01:01:41.920
<v Speaker 1>telling me that the tartment hands and the CEO are

675
01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:47.000
<v Speaker 1>walking back and forth in front of her window because

676
01:01:47.280 --> 01:01:53.079
<v Speaker 1>she just confronted them saying that all the accusations against

677
01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:56.639
<v Speaker 1>me are lies, that she's not going to do their

678
01:01:56.639 --> 01:02:01.480
<v Speaker 1>dirty work, that she thinks something various is going on

679
01:02:02.159 --> 01:02:05.519
<v Speaker 1>and she's not going to be part of it. Now

680
01:02:05.559 --> 01:02:10.960
<v Speaker 1>she's in the crosshairs of these twopartment hands. She is

681
01:02:11.199 --> 01:02:15.400
<v Speaker 1>scared and she doesn't know what to do. So I

682
01:02:15.440 --> 01:02:19.239
<v Speaker 1>took her down from the lanch and we got her

683
01:02:19.320 --> 01:02:23.519
<v Speaker 1>out of the office that day with someone safe, because

684
01:02:23.559 --> 01:02:29.480
<v Speaker 1>she was really scared. Anyhow, she was the catalyst that

685
01:02:29.719 --> 01:02:34.239
<v Speaker 1>really brought the whole case together because she had been

686
01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:38.320
<v Speaker 1>part of the group for a short period of time,

687
01:02:39.000 --> 01:02:43.639
<v Speaker 1>so she was an insider. So when the case all

688
01:02:43.760 --> 01:02:49.000
<v Speaker 1>came the door ardituration, et cetera, she was really keyed

689
01:02:49.199 --> 01:02:54.320
<v Speaker 1>to what happened on the you know, getting resolved, et cetera.

690
01:02:55.039 --> 01:02:59.079
<v Speaker 1>So then again on the last part on that dream,

691
01:02:59.440 --> 01:03:05.719
<v Speaker 1>the general then the CEO came from a very strict

692
01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:11.239
<v Speaker 1>religious family, and it was after all this stuff at

693
01:03:11.239 --> 01:03:16.400
<v Speaker 1>the center and him getting fired that he actually came

694
01:03:17.039 --> 01:03:22.239
<v Speaker 1>out of the closet. He moved further west with his

695
01:03:23.280 --> 01:03:30.239
<v Speaker 1>boyfriend and Gayton the business together, and I guess he's

696
01:03:31.039 --> 01:03:35.440
<v Speaker 1>never been happier. Kind of blew everyone out of the

697
01:03:35.559 --> 01:03:41.760
<v Speaker 1>longer I had no clue, and yeah, so there you go.

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01:03:43.320 --> 01:03:45.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah I love James, I really did.

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01:03:54.360 --> 01:03:57.320
<v Speaker 6>You don't always know you're in a cult. Not at first.

700
01:03:57.840 --> 01:04:01.320
<v Speaker 6>It feels like truth, like purpose, like home. Then the

701
01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:05.280
<v Speaker 6>rules change, the world gets smaller, and obedience becomes survival.

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01:04:05.480 --> 01:04:08.159
<v Speaker 6>Hidden Cults is the podcast that takes you inside the

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01:04:08.199 --> 01:04:11.800
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705
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706
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707
01:04:22.519 --> 01:04:26.559
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01:04:26.599 --> 01:04:30.000
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01:04:30.039 --> 01:04:34.400
<v Speaker 6>belief systems. You'll hear real stories from those who escaped,

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<v Speaker 6>and if you've lived through something like this, we want

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<v Speaker 1>Dreams Changing. We're now year two thousand occurring. Yeah, and

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01:04:58.000 --> 01:05:03.480
<v Speaker 1>then dreams are definitely they Yeah, they started changing. I'm

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01:05:03.480 --> 01:05:09.039
<v Speaker 1>no longer dealing with the power lines like I haven't

716
01:05:09.320 --> 01:05:15.039
<v Speaker 1>worked since nineteen ninety seven, no longer with the center,

717
01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:19.400
<v Speaker 1>so I'm away from all. Huh So around two thousand,

718
01:05:20.719 --> 01:05:25.599
<v Speaker 1>my day dreams are no longer dealing with power lines.

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01:05:26.679 --> 01:05:33.400
<v Speaker 1>That I'm still in a building that I'm trying to

720
01:05:33.519 --> 01:05:38.800
<v Speaker 1>get out of. I'm not scared now, I'm hunting or

721
01:05:38.880 --> 01:05:45.239
<v Speaker 1>not walking that I'm hunting around looking for an exit,

722
01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:50.000
<v Speaker 1>a door or a window that I can get out

723
01:05:50.079 --> 01:05:54.800
<v Speaker 1>on so I can be free, I can breathe, i

724
01:05:54.880 --> 01:06:00.199
<v Speaker 1>can be outside. Yeah, I see an exit that it's

725
01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:04.880
<v Speaker 1>just too slow. And then things started to change because

726
01:06:05.199 --> 01:06:11.320
<v Speaker 1>I realized I could actually touch through a window. Like

727
01:06:11.440 --> 01:06:16.400
<v Speaker 1>the window would be like a bumble, I could push

728
01:06:16.480 --> 01:06:21.079
<v Speaker 1>through it. Not good the window that I could with

729
01:06:21.280 --> 01:06:24.960
<v Speaker 1>the little effort, I could get to the window by

730
01:06:25.079 --> 01:06:31.920
<v Speaker 1>touching to it, and then I could be I'm outside,

731
01:06:32.360 --> 01:06:37.599
<v Speaker 1>or I mean a much larger building that I have

732
01:06:37.840 --> 01:06:43.159
<v Speaker 1>a lot more freedom to move around the way I feel.

733
01:06:44.320 --> 01:06:49.199
<v Speaker 1>The meaning behind the dream is that I'm no longer

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01:06:49.400 --> 01:06:58.559
<v Speaker 1>confined to an institution, confined to Yeah, just confined to

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<v Speaker 1>These are the rules you must solve these rules, these

736
01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:08.960
<v Speaker 1>guidelines that I'm a lot, I have a lot more

737
01:07:09.079 --> 01:07:16.320
<v Speaker 1>freedom to d me not d whatever keitle are dictating

738
01:07:16.400 --> 01:07:20.760
<v Speaker 1>I need to be. Now, when I think get outside,

739
01:07:21.920 --> 01:07:27.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm find I'm hungering around. You know those eight chairs

740
01:07:27.360 --> 01:07:30.679
<v Speaker 1>from the sixties, Well, it's like an eight chair that

741
01:07:31.199 --> 01:07:36.320
<v Speaker 1>the deck is only halfway up and it's silverere. I

742
01:07:36.400 --> 01:07:40.239
<v Speaker 1>actually hunt the color, hungering around on this on this

743
01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:44.760
<v Speaker 1>hunter chair. The one I find really interesting now is

744
01:07:45.559 --> 01:07:49.159
<v Speaker 1>when I hovered, when I was like in the task

745
01:07:49.320 --> 01:07:52.679
<v Speaker 1>over the trees and if I try to control it

746
01:07:53.079 --> 01:07:57.000
<v Speaker 1>and lose altitude, and when I was hunding in feather

747
01:07:57.119 --> 01:07:59.960
<v Speaker 1>trees and just let it take you where I want

748
01:08:00.119 --> 01:08:06.079
<v Speaker 1>I do. I was always hidden from people, and I

749
01:08:06.280 --> 01:08:09.960
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be hidden. I didn't want them to see

750
01:08:10.480 --> 01:08:14.000
<v Speaker 1>what I was doing. I didn't want to scare them

751
01:08:14.239 --> 01:08:17.279
<v Speaker 1>or treak them out, like beause this is kind of

752
01:08:17.319 --> 01:08:22.680
<v Speaker 1>an unusual thing that you're able to floaw the down trees,

753
01:08:22.920 --> 01:08:29.640
<v Speaker 1>and so that this time while I'm hunting, people can

754
01:08:29.800 --> 01:08:34.319
<v Speaker 1>see me and they don't care. They're not freaking out,

755
01:08:34.560 --> 01:08:40.079
<v Speaker 1>they're not making a big deal on it or questioning it.

756
01:08:40.880 --> 01:08:47.399
<v Speaker 1>They're just accepting it. Some people are smiling as they

757
01:08:47.479 --> 01:08:53.359
<v Speaker 1>see me do this amazing thing floating around. It's accepted

758
01:08:54.159 --> 01:08:59.960
<v Speaker 1>my interpretation. The gifts meeting me where I was really

759
01:09:00.359 --> 01:09:06.239
<v Speaker 1>hesitant with this whole needing thing because it's really unusual.

760
01:09:07.159 --> 01:09:10.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where it's coming. It's coming from a

761
01:09:10.239 --> 01:09:14.279
<v Speaker 1>higher source. I don't want to draw attention. I don't

762
01:09:14.560 --> 01:09:21.079
<v Speaker 1>like attention. That was when I was originally huddering. Now

763
01:09:21.720 --> 01:09:25.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm a lot more comfortable with it. I don't mind

764
01:09:25.760 --> 01:09:32.720
<v Speaker 1>people knowing about it. Some people are smiling that maybe

765
01:09:32.960 --> 01:09:37.479
<v Speaker 1>they are going to approaching they need help. That's kind

766
01:09:37.520 --> 01:09:42.560
<v Speaker 1>of what my feelings are with that. So this whole

767
01:09:42.880 --> 01:09:49.159
<v Speaker 1>diagnosis that I have the oculotor angeo istal muscular distridy,

768
01:09:50.399 --> 01:09:57.640
<v Speaker 1>what's weird. There's no history in my family. I do

769
01:09:57.800 --> 01:10:04.399
<v Speaker 1>not have the genetic marker. Yet all the symptoms, the

770
01:10:04.600 --> 01:10:10.760
<v Speaker 1>muscle diapsies, they're dang on with this disorder. When I

771
01:10:10.840 --> 01:10:14.039
<v Speaker 1>was going through all the horrible stuff at the center,

772
01:10:14.680 --> 01:10:19.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it destroyed my gut because I was under

773
01:10:19.319 --> 01:10:23.359
<v Speaker 1>a lot of stress, kept on the happy, happy face

774
01:10:24.119 --> 01:10:27.199
<v Speaker 1>because I couldn't see, couldn't let them see they're again

775
01:10:27.319 --> 01:10:32.640
<v Speaker 1>to me, So yeah, it did affect me physically and emostionally.

776
01:10:33.520 --> 01:10:38.840
<v Speaker 1>The gut is the lot of natural tassels, say, is

777
01:10:39.039 --> 01:10:45.000
<v Speaker 1>the your brain actually and it chellnically will tell the

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01:10:45.119 --> 01:10:50.319
<v Speaker 1>drain what the body needs. So it tells Dane, okay,

779
01:10:50.359 --> 01:10:52.159
<v Speaker 1>you need you are this, you need you are that.

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01:10:53.039 --> 01:10:56.880
<v Speaker 1>So then the drains the engine and delivers what needs

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01:10:56.920 --> 01:11:01.079
<v Speaker 1>to go were. It really makes you wonder this whole

782
01:11:01.199 --> 01:11:06.279
<v Speaker 1>wonderful thing I have when it's because it attacks like

783
01:11:07.439 --> 01:11:10.720
<v Speaker 1>so if anyone out there knows how to fix that,

784
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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to hear them. Okay next Living born twenty

785
01:11:17.359 --> 01:11:24.800
<v Speaker 1>twenty two February. To preface this again, is this precognition

786
01:11:25.039 --> 01:11:32.239
<v Speaker 1>and I getting intonation? I am not a reader? Never happened.

787
01:11:32.920 --> 01:11:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Maybe eight years of university killed out that the only

788
01:11:37.800 --> 01:11:44.119
<v Speaker 1>sound reading exhausting, even like a really good dog. I

789
01:11:44.520 --> 01:11:50.079
<v Speaker 1>love it that like one chapter in. Honestly, I don't

790
01:11:50.079 --> 01:11:54.199
<v Speaker 1>know if my imagination gets detor of me and my

791
01:11:54.399 --> 01:12:01.039
<v Speaker 1>drain gets worked too much that reading has never then

792
01:12:01.600 --> 01:12:06.640
<v Speaker 1>pleasurable because it it exhausts me. I can't say really,

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01:12:06.840 --> 01:12:10.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, JR. Token, I've read that the people will

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01:12:10.640 --> 01:12:14.960
<v Speaker 1>talk about their day that authors and I don't have any.

795
01:12:15.079 --> 01:12:19.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, but yeah, they're the way. In twenty twenty two,

796
01:12:19.600 --> 01:12:26.720
<v Speaker 1>I had a really did odd gene for me, one

797
01:12:26.840 --> 01:12:30.560
<v Speaker 1>that actually I felt for the first time other I

798
01:12:30.640 --> 01:12:36.720
<v Speaker 1>felt compelled to immediately write it down. So I gone

799
01:12:36.800 --> 01:12:39.720
<v Speaker 1>up and I wrote down the content of the dream,

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01:12:40.760 --> 01:12:45.119
<v Speaker 1>and the words kept coming, and they kept coming. I

801
01:12:45.239 --> 01:12:51.079
<v Speaker 1>ended up writing a novel in a month, and like,

802
01:12:51.359 --> 01:12:56.760
<v Speaker 1>just all these thoughts came in my head and like

803
01:12:56.840 --> 01:12:59.920
<v Speaker 1>I really up to two in the morning and it's like,

804
01:13:00.199 --> 01:13:03.560
<v Speaker 1>oh no, there's more into Okay, I'll write that down.

805
01:13:04.439 --> 01:13:07.640
<v Speaker 1>And I got it all written down because I needed

806
01:13:07.680 --> 01:13:12.439
<v Speaker 1>it out of my hand, like it was just constantly there.

807
01:13:13.199 --> 01:13:17.359
<v Speaker 1>Got it all went down, thought okay, great, done, I'm done. Yay,

808
01:13:17.920 --> 01:13:22.960
<v Speaker 1>I got it all out right, I'm done, right, dang it.

809
01:13:23.159 --> 01:13:29.199
<v Speaker 1>I get another did dream. Second novel gets written again

810
01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:34.520
<v Speaker 1>because I'm not a writer, I don't like it again.

811
01:13:34.800 --> 01:13:38.359
<v Speaker 1>I get another divided dream, A long and short. I've

812
01:13:38.399 --> 01:13:44.319
<v Speaker 1>written three. They're kind of on the verge of novel novel.

813
01:13:44.680 --> 01:13:48.399
<v Speaker 1>Never in a million years did I either think on

814
01:13:48.439 --> 01:13:54.119
<v Speaker 1>my bucket list I would write a novel, let alone three.

815
01:13:54.880 --> 01:13:59.079
<v Speaker 1>I had a couple of people look at it. One

816
01:13:59.439 --> 01:14:06.159
<v Speaker 1>once that Ian Ferguson, he's the winner on the Mee

817
01:14:06.319 --> 01:14:10.239
<v Speaker 1>Cowk Award. He's written a couple of books and he

818
01:14:10.479 --> 01:14:14.840
<v Speaker 1>read it, read my first novel and he's like, this

819
01:14:15.079 --> 01:14:19.920
<v Speaker 1>is good. You need to work on editing it. And

820
01:14:19.960 --> 01:14:23.439
<v Speaker 1>so where is his coming from? I don't know that.

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01:14:23.560 --> 01:14:32.399
<v Speaker 1>It's like young adult speculatives. I sigh, really positive, encouraging

822
01:14:33.319 --> 01:14:38.359
<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff, not dark that. Yeah, so that's got

823
01:14:38.439 --> 01:14:43.920
<v Speaker 1>my head scratching. The there you go now connecting. And

824
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<v Speaker 1>this is where you come in, Nick, because in one's

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01:14:48.720 --> 01:14:53.600
<v Speaker 1>August twenty twenty three that I was getting money to

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<v Speaker 1>Dan and I was, yes, you know, Google left here

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01:14:58.800 --> 01:15:07.079
<v Speaker 1>play BBC podcast. Well misunderstood me, which it does quite often,

828
01:15:07.720 --> 01:15:14.479
<v Speaker 1>and it said UFO Chronicles podcast playing, and it played

829
01:15:14.880 --> 01:15:22.000
<v Speaker 1>one of your episodes and I was hooked. And anyhow

830
01:15:22.600 --> 01:15:29.800
<v Speaker 1>I listened two a couple on the episodes and one

831
01:15:30.760 --> 01:15:36.720
<v Speaker 1>don't wonder who it was that they indicated that they

832
01:15:37.239 --> 01:15:41.319
<v Speaker 1>reached out too, you know, they said something to get

833
01:15:41.439 --> 01:15:46.000
<v Speaker 1>down to the beings who are out there, who loved

834
01:15:46.079 --> 01:15:50.239
<v Speaker 1>the protecting, you know, they wanted to make a connection.

835
01:15:50.680 --> 01:15:57.119
<v Speaker 1>So I thought, what the heck? Oh sorry, Now I

836
01:15:57.439 --> 01:16:02.960
<v Speaker 1>pray that I've never done in meditation. At this point,

837
01:16:03.039 --> 01:16:07.359
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know about chakras or any of that, so

838
01:16:07.399 --> 01:16:10.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of naive on that side of the world

839
01:16:10.880 --> 01:16:15.039
<v Speaker 1>that I thought i'd try. I said, okay, I'm meeting

840
01:16:15.159 --> 01:16:19.960
<v Speaker 1>out to the things out there who love me, protect me,

841
01:16:20.960 --> 01:16:26.319
<v Speaker 1>and have my dest interests in mind. Immediately I had

842
01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:33.399
<v Speaker 1>burning at the center top of my crown. I don't

843
01:16:33.399 --> 01:16:37.800
<v Speaker 1>get bankings. I rarely get headaches. This is out of

844
01:16:37.840 --> 01:16:40.920
<v Speaker 1>the bay on dying away. Well, I've been talking to

845
01:16:41.000 --> 01:16:45.960
<v Speaker 1>you this whole time. It's been burning real good, so

846
01:16:46.760 --> 01:16:53.399
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of shocking. And I said, okay, if that

847
01:16:53.720 --> 01:16:58.920
<v Speaker 1>is you, can you please stop the burning? And it stopped,

848
01:17:00.039 --> 01:17:03.800
<v Speaker 1>and I'm I'm a logical person. I'm like, okay, am

849
01:17:03.800 --> 01:17:08.199
<v Speaker 1>I leading into this? So I said, okay, if that

850
01:17:08.439 --> 01:17:12.520
<v Speaker 1>is you, I'm going to ask again if it's you,

851
01:17:13.439 --> 01:17:16.319
<v Speaker 1>do the guilt the dirn. I'm feeling a good and

852
01:17:16.520 --> 01:17:20.680
<v Speaker 1>it started durning and Nick, it's not a light dirn,

853
01:17:20.840 --> 01:17:25.319
<v Speaker 1>like it's a dern, and it feels like it goes

854
01:17:26.359 --> 01:17:31.680
<v Speaker 1>from the center of my head down around three inchance

855
01:17:31.960 --> 01:17:37.319
<v Speaker 1>maybe is kind of where it stays. Again, nothing like

856
01:17:37.399 --> 01:17:46.560
<v Speaker 1>this has ever happened, and I still struggle with it,

857
01:17:47.119 --> 01:17:52.880
<v Speaker 1>like it's in two years on. I ask for guidance,

858
01:17:53.079 --> 01:17:57.520
<v Speaker 1>like what does this mean? One of my stolls to

859
01:17:57.680 --> 01:18:03.680
<v Speaker 1>do with this is this energy? Like am I supposed

860
01:18:03.720 --> 01:18:08.520
<v Speaker 1>to direct it somewhere? And so how I mean? I'm

861
01:18:08.560 --> 01:18:16.399
<v Speaker 1>not hearing voices, I can't say anything necessarily in my dreams.

862
01:18:17.640 --> 01:18:23.119
<v Speaker 1>And the journey is four seven like sometimes it's not there.

863
01:18:24.279 --> 01:18:28.800
<v Speaker 1>When it's not there, as soon as I ask to connect, boom,

864
01:18:29.119 --> 01:18:34.239
<v Speaker 1>it's immediately there. I thought. You know, of course we're thinking,

865
01:18:34.319 --> 01:18:38.199
<v Speaker 1>it's like, okay, if this energy you're sending me, can

866
01:18:38.319 --> 01:18:43.560
<v Speaker 1>heal me? Please direct it where it needs to go. Well,

867
01:18:43.640 --> 01:18:47.880
<v Speaker 1>un torch Leeds did two years and I continue to decline.

868
01:18:48.199 --> 01:18:55.279
<v Speaker 1>Dang it. So I continually ask for guidance. What's the turkois?

869
01:18:55.520 --> 01:19:01.479
<v Speaker 1>Because this is really un anomaly and I sometimes so

870
01:19:01.760 --> 01:19:05.039
<v Speaker 1>I say, okay, I can feel the presence the darning.

871
01:19:05.960 --> 01:19:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Then it changes to like a light tingling, cooling tingling

872
01:19:13.119 --> 01:19:19.119
<v Speaker 1>feeling that kind of rolls totally across my thought that

873
01:19:19.239 --> 01:19:24.680
<v Speaker 1>I had down towards my ears. It's doing that right now,

874
01:19:25.319 --> 01:19:30.560
<v Speaker 1>like a cool tingling sensation. Yeah, what it's doore, I

875
01:19:30.680 --> 01:19:36.399
<v Speaker 1>don't know. And then again I have no idea who

876
01:19:36.399 --> 01:19:41.600
<v Speaker 1>to reach out to Tony that he can should. I

877
01:19:42.319 --> 01:19:46.119
<v Speaker 1>more intimation about it because I don't want to just

878
01:19:46.159 --> 01:19:49.439
<v Speaker 1>sit here passively. I'd like to be more active and

879
01:19:50.760 --> 01:19:54.399
<v Speaker 1>what's going on. I want If there's something, I'd like

880
01:19:54.479 --> 01:19:58.760
<v Speaker 1>to use it for good I don't know, like channeling,

881
01:19:59.479 --> 01:20:06.039
<v Speaker 1>and it's for what turpiss like for these doodle things. Now,

882
01:20:06.319 --> 01:20:13.720
<v Speaker 1>with all that something which started early twenty twenty four,

883
01:20:14.039 --> 01:20:19.439
<v Speaker 1>so until the year into when this unknowing you want

884
01:20:19.479 --> 01:20:25.600
<v Speaker 1>to call it connection things happened. It's just before I

885
01:20:25.760 --> 01:20:29.399
<v Speaker 1>wake up, so I'm not quite fully awake that I'm awake,

886
01:20:30.319 --> 01:20:33.479
<v Speaker 1>you know, can't You're in that in between thing, and

887
01:20:34.439 --> 01:20:42.560
<v Speaker 1>I feel really light headed, like I'm floding. That it

888
01:20:42.640 --> 01:20:49.399
<v Speaker 1>feels like I'm floding halfway out of my body. That

889
01:20:49.560 --> 01:20:53.359
<v Speaker 1>sounds really weird when I say it out loud. They Yet,

890
01:20:53.479 --> 01:20:58.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm very aware of my body. I can feel it

891
01:20:58.079 --> 01:21:04.159
<v Speaker 1>on the mattress, can wiggle my toes, I'm touching my fingers.

892
01:21:04.800 --> 01:21:07.680
<v Speaker 1>I can check my breathing because I'm thinking, Okay, you're

893
01:21:07.760 --> 01:21:12.600
<v Speaker 1>life headed. Are you not breathing deeply? No? My breathing

894
01:21:12.840 --> 01:21:19.079
<v Speaker 1>is easy and smooth, So I'm like, okay, is this

895
01:21:20.039 --> 01:21:25.720
<v Speaker 1>astro projection, because I've heard that on your podcast. If

896
01:21:25.720 --> 01:21:29.319
<v Speaker 1>this is you know, the things that are reaching out

897
01:21:29.359 --> 01:21:35.119
<v Speaker 1>that I trust guide me, Let's see where this is going. Like,

898
01:21:35.239 --> 01:21:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm not scared, I'm intrigued. I really want to take

899
01:21:40.000 --> 01:21:47.840
<v Speaker 1>this further. So I'm saying, okay, I'm curious, like you know,

900
01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:52.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you, I trust you guide me. And it'll

901
01:21:52.479 --> 01:21:58.800
<v Speaker 1>last anywhere from two to five minutes and either I

902
01:21:58.920 --> 01:22:04.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's interrupted because my dog's darker cat jumps

903
01:22:04.800 --> 01:22:10.079
<v Speaker 1>on me, or it just stads away again. I'd say

904
01:22:10.159 --> 01:22:15.960
<v Speaker 1>this happens really once every one to two months. That

905
01:22:16.079 --> 01:22:21.800
<v Speaker 1>it's never gone any further than that feeling like you're

906
01:22:21.800 --> 01:22:27.640
<v Speaker 1>halfway on your body, and it's always just before I

907
01:22:27.760 --> 01:22:32.760
<v Speaker 1>wake up. Also, yeah, that's way after these things started happening.

908
01:22:32.880 --> 01:22:38.520
<v Speaker 1>This would be summer on twenty twenty four. I had

909
01:22:40.159 --> 01:22:45.479
<v Speaker 1>never did they dream? Now? Is this wishole? Thinking that

910
01:22:46.279 --> 01:22:52.079
<v Speaker 1>the dream was that there that is something and being

911
01:22:52.439 --> 01:23:00.760
<v Speaker 1>something was touching the bottom of my feet were touching,

912
01:23:01.680 --> 01:23:06.720
<v Speaker 1>putting pressure on various starts of nine feet start down

913
01:23:07.399 --> 01:23:14.039
<v Speaker 1>thirty seconds, and then they covered my feet again with

914
01:23:14.079 --> 01:23:20.680
<v Speaker 1>my banket gently patted nine feet and it like it

915
01:23:20.800 --> 01:23:27.760
<v Speaker 1>felt really comforting, really like like a mom would could

916
01:23:27.800 --> 01:23:31.039
<v Speaker 1>a blanket on the day and then you know, get

917
01:23:31.119 --> 01:23:33.600
<v Speaker 1>the daivy a little rub down their deck and then

918
01:23:34.119 --> 01:23:38.840
<v Speaker 1>walk away. That's exactly how it felt. And then it

919
01:23:39.159 --> 01:23:45.680
<v Speaker 1>was done. I didn't see anything, but it felt so neal.

920
01:23:46.600 --> 01:23:50.119
<v Speaker 1>Now again, wish for thinking on my part, because I

921
01:23:50.199 --> 01:23:53.479
<v Speaker 1>think that'd be really cool. I don't know that I'd

922
01:23:53.520 --> 01:23:58.239
<v Speaker 1>never had a dream like that. That one's really odd,

923
01:23:59.039 --> 01:24:03.359
<v Speaker 1>I guess inside. Nick long and Short, thank you so

924
01:24:03.520 --> 01:24:08.279
<v Speaker 1>much for your podcast because it was because of you

925
01:24:08.399 --> 01:24:13.560
<v Speaker 1>and all the wonderful people that had been on that

926
01:24:14.159 --> 01:24:18.000
<v Speaker 1>it really got me thinking about all the little things

927
01:24:18.520 --> 01:24:22.039
<v Speaker 1>that had happened in my life that I never thought

928
01:24:22.479 --> 01:24:28.520
<v Speaker 1>as one big picture has led me to today I'm

929
01:24:28.600 --> 01:24:33.399
<v Speaker 1>kind of following kind of what all that's gone on,

930
01:24:33.760 --> 01:24:41.039
<v Speaker 1>and I am starting to do reading STU people. I

931
01:24:41.039 --> 01:24:46.079
<v Speaker 1>was also encouraged actually ended up seeing a guy that

932
01:24:46.520 --> 01:24:51.760
<v Speaker 1>was to a friend who was a psychic reader gentleman,

933
01:24:52.560 --> 01:24:59.039
<v Speaker 1>really sweetheart, and he also really encouraged me to start

934
01:24:59.119 --> 01:25:03.279
<v Speaker 1>doing g being to Tito and so what I did,

935
01:25:03.640 --> 01:25:07.600
<v Speaker 1>because I mean I did doodles and a bleach work,

936
01:25:07.960 --> 01:25:11.960
<v Speaker 1>So I thought, okay, so I tried it down on

937
01:25:13.319 --> 01:25:17.359
<v Speaker 1>countle friends just you know, told them on answering. I

938
01:25:17.479 --> 01:25:22.840
<v Speaker 1>sat them to draw a tee and then I sat

939
01:25:22.920 --> 01:25:27.800
<v Speaker 1>down with them and it worked and worked really well,

940
01:25:28.680 --> 01:25:35.760
<v Speaker 1>and the same thing. It's tito. I've done quite a

941
01:25:35.840 --> 01:25:41.319
<v Speaker 1>few of them now and it's all the same. They're

942
01:25:42.039 --> 01:25:46.279
<v Speaker 1>at a point should I did? Should I did? And

943
01:25:46.760 --> 01:25:50.840
<v Speaker 1>the words that I shared with them has given them

944
01:25:51.000 --> 01:25:56.119
<v Speaker 1>a lot of clerity and tasted long. It's so cool.

945
01:25:56.720 --> 01:26:00.560
<v Speaker 1>So my methods are not like other keeps or where

946
01:26:01.039 --> 01:26:04.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, they got to tear a carns or something

947
01:26:04.199 --> 01:26:10.840
<v Speaker 1>like that. This is a drawing and I just tell

948
01:26:11.000 --> 01:26:15.039
<v Speaker 1>the words that come to my mind and it means

949
01:26:15.199 --> 01:26:20.680
<v Speaker 1>something to them because of course I don't know on background. Yeah,

950
01:26:20.880 --> 01:26:22.520
<v Speaker 1>it's been a cool journey.

951
01:26:22.960 --> 01:26:27.000
<v Speaker 3>It's been a cool journey. Wonderful stuff. Patricia, you did

952
01:26:27.239 --> 01:26:27.800
<v Speaker 3>just great.

953
01:26:29.039 --> 01:26:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, no I, and again thank you for the

954
01:26:33.720 --> 01:26:41.039
<v Speaker 1>patience of your audience who with the speech nothing as

955
01:26:41.239 --> 01:26:42.920
<v Speaker 1>clear as I'd like it to be.

956
01:26:43.720 --> 01:26:44.680
<v Speaker 3>You did fine.

957
01:26:44.800 --> 01:26:46.840
<v Speaker 1>I guess I just was on a role.

958
01:26:47.359 --> 01:26:50.960
<v Speaker 3>You were on a roll exactly. You had some help there. Well,

959
01:26:50.960 --> 01:26:53.720
<v Speaker 3>thank you for sharing all that for us. It has

960
01:26:53.840 --> 01:26:56.039
<v Speaker 3>been certainly quite the journey for you.

961
01:26:57.000 --> 01:27:04.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, and again, always been a caretaker kind of person,

962
01:27:05.000 --> 01:27:09.640
<v Speaker 1>and I love it. And if I can give people,

963
01:27:10.399 --> 01:27:14.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, the words that they're supposed to hear from

964
01:27:14.920 --> 01:27:20.279
<v Speaker 1>whatever higher places, is coming from stuff that can help

965
01:27:20.359 --> 01:27:23.720
<v Speaker 1>them only cow I'm in like a dirty sir.

966
01:27:24.399 --> 01:27:26.920
<v Speaker 3>Life can be hard, and we come to some of

967
01:27:26.960 --> 01:27:29.000
<v Speaker 3>these crossroads and we don't know what to do, We

968
01:27:29.039 --> 01:27:31.479
<v Speaker 3>don't know which direction to go. You just kind of

969
01:27:31.520 --> 01:27:34.840
<v Speaker 3>help people along, don't you give them the motivation and

970
01:27:34.960 --> 01:27:37.000
<v Speaker 3>the power to do that exactly?

971
01:27:37.439 --> 01:27:41.159
<v Speaker 1>And I mean at this point in my life I

972
01:27:41.239 --> 01:27:46.760
<v Speaker 1>am permanently in a wheelchair and live rather isolated, which

973
01:27:46.840 --> 01:27:50.039
<v Speaker 1>I do not mind. I love my son.

974
01:27:50.560 --> 01:27:56.159
<v Speaker 2>You know, I still have that dirty desire to help

975
01:27:56.520 --> 01:27:59.760
<v Speaker 2>and to help where I can't. You know, I've done

976
01:28:00.479 --> 01:28:06.359
<v Speaker 2>readings to Zoom and stuff like that, and yeah, it

977
01:28:06.359 --> 01:28:07.520
<v Speaker 2>feels really good.

978
01:28:08.000 --> 01:28:10.079
<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm not going to try and pronounce that

979
01:28:10.119 --> 01:28:13.600
<v Speaker 3>your diagnosis you've had since two thousand and four. It

980
01:28:13.680 --> 01:28:15.319
<v Speaker 3>is indeed very rare, isn't it.

981
01:28:15.680 --> 01:28:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the initials are all tea as in Paul and

982
01:28:23.159 --> 01:28:27.039
<v Speaker 1>and of course I got the extra distal part. So yeah,

983
01:28:27.159 --> 01:28:31.600
<v Speaker 1>and again I totally get why there's little to know

984
01:28:31.840 --> 01:28:37.000
<v Speaker 1>research because there's so few that have this. You really

985
01:28:37.039 --> 01:28:43.319
<v Speaker 1>need those research monies to go to the diseases and

986
01:28:43.439 --> 01:28:46.760
<v Speaker 1>disorders that are affecting a lot more people.

987
01:28:46.960 --> 01:28:50.079
<v Speaker 3>Right, doesn't seem to have really doesn't seem to hold

988
01:28:50.159 --> 01:28:52.279
<v Speaker 3>you back. You know, you still have a lot of drive.

989
01:28:52.680 --> 01:28:57.079
<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, yes, And I'll clean that on the

990
01:28:57.199 --> 01:29:01.800
<v Speaker 1>Dutch hericage. You know, stomping.

991
01:29:03.279 --> 01:29:06.479
<v Speaker 3>That's it, isn't it. It's you know, not giving up.

992
01:29:06.640 --> 01:29:09.439
<v Speaker 3>You know, whatever life froze at you, you just got

993
01:29:09.439 --> 01:29:10.760
<v Speaker 3>to keep on moving.

994
01:29:10.920 --> 01:29:15.319
<v Speaker 1>You really do. And actually speaking on much. When I

995
01:29:15.399 --> 01:29:21.640
<v Speaker 1>was writing the novels and reaching out to editors, I

996
01:29:21.720 --> 01:29:26.840
<v Speaker 1>reached out to a gentleman called Stuart Ross's and he

997
01:29:27.079 --> 01:29:32.199
<v Speaker 1>was asking about my background, and so I told them,

998
01:29:32.239 --> 01:29:34.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, okay, well this is where I came from,

999
01:29:35.239 --> 01:29:38.760
<v Speaker 1>this is my background, this is where I'm at. And

1000
01:29:39.039 --> 01:29:44.399
<v Speaker 1>he said, You've got a really interesting life. And the

1001
01:29:44.520 --> 01:29:49.960
<v Speaker 1>other thought, I'm writing a memoir and it's like, no,

1002
01:29:50.199 --> 01:29:54.479
<v Speaker 1>because why I'm with teeth wanna it's just boring stuff.

1003
01:29:54.600 --> 01:29:59.800
<v Speaker 1>He's like, no, because of the way I've handled grief

1004
01:30:01.560 --> 01:30:05.760
<v Speaker 1>and how I look at things, you know, how you

1005
01:30:05.960 --> 01:30:12.720
<v Speaker 1>deal with loss, And because he talked about how Tito

1006
01:30:12.880 --> 01:30:19.359
<v Speaker 1>weren't allowing him to grieve. Just get overrid or you know,

1007
01:30:19.760 --> 01:30:23.600
<v Speaker 1>come on, move on, rah rah yay, oh, come on, Tito,

1008
01:30:24.359 --> 01:30:30.359
<v Speaker 1>Tito need to gree and we all go through the

1009
01:30:30.680 --> 01:30:35.039
<v Speaker 1>stages of grief at a different rate. You need to

1010
01:30:35.119 --> 01:30:41.640
<v Speaker 1>be respected, your feelings need to be respected on how

1011
01:30:41.720 --> 01:30:45.880
<v Speaker 1>you deal with grief, and so this on and a conversation,

1012
01:30:46.199 --> 01:30:50.640
<v Speaker 1>He's like, you need to write this down because with

1013
01:30:50.880 --> 01:30:57.079
<v Speaker 1>even with all my physical loss, I was constantly okay.

1014
01:30:57.159 --> 01:31:00.239
<v Speaker 1>So I can no longer hold the garden to role.

1015
01:31:00.319 --> 01:31:05.479
<v Speaker 1>And I lived the gardening, so how can I adapt it?

1016
01:31:06.560 --> 01:31:10.079
<v Speaker 1>And I think outside the box and come up with

1017
01:31:10.960 --> 01:31:15.279
<v Speaker 1>a whole new funky way of holding garden tool so

1018
01:31:15.359 --> 01:31:20.439
<v Speaker 1>I can keep reading those dang dandelions out of my fat. Then,

1019
01:31:21.000 --> 01:31:25.800
<v Speaker 1>so thanks on that I did reather meanmoir, And it

1020
01:31:26.000 --> 01:31:32.880
<v Speaker 1>has an associated website where I have I display all

1021
01:31:33.119 --> 01:31:40.359
<v Speaker 1>the adaptations I've done as I've lost my physical strength

1022
01:31:40.920 --> 01:31:46.600
<v Speaker 1>so I can continue living in my home and so

1023
01:31:46.880 --> 01:31:50.800
<v Speaker 1>not you know, waiting for the physio and yot to

1024
01:31:51.199 --> 01:31:54.920
<v Speaker 1>come up with something. I came up with my own

1025
01:31:55.960 --> 01:32:02.600
<v Speaker 1>maguither type adaptations. And so my website is one that

1026
01:32:03.119 --> 01:32:07.920
<v Speaker 1>I encourage teitle to add to it, like if you

1027
01:32:08.079 --> 01:32:13.359
<v Speaker 1>come up with some cool trick that helps you continue

1028
01:32:14.039 --> 01:32:18.800
<v Speaker 1>to say the access your environment, tell me about it.

1029
01:32:18.920 --> 01:32:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Let's put it on the website so title can be

1030
01:32:22.800 --> 01:32:25.840
<v Speaker 1>encouraged and don't give up hope.

1031
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<v Speaker 3>That's what it's all about. Don't give up hope. Grief

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<v Speaker 3>is something we all have to face at some point.

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<v Speaker 3>But your book A Life Worth Grieving, what I'll do is, Patricia,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll put that on the website, okay, And it's available

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<v Speaker 3>on Amazon.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's available on Amazon, and it's a positive read.

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<v Speaker 1>I talk about grief as a child, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>how it's for the greether and the person standing next

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<v Speaker 1>to the greether. I talk about karensus who needs children

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<v Speaker 1>and the complexity of the Greek they go through, and

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<v Speaker 1>also how you can help losing a Karen being a

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<v Speaker 1>single mom, dying choice, and it's amazing all the done

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01:33:19.479 --> 01:33:23.159
<v Speaker 1>stuff that happens when you do that. But yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>covers the whole gamut that it's all. This is what

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<v Speaker 1>you can do to help yourself and your friends to this.

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<v Speaker 3>So, Paulianna, you do also have a website, So if

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<v Speaker 3>there's anyone out there which would like a psychic reading

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<v Speaker 3>from you. They can reach you at a message for

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<v Speaker 3>you dot c.

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<v Speaker 1>A yeah, and if they want to send directly like

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<v Speaker 1>an email and Gmail, it's the same thing on message

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<v Speaker 1>for you now at gmail dot com. So the number

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<v Speaker 1>four the letter you and that's the word now. So

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<v Speaker 1>a message for you now at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>Perfect. I will put all your information below and on

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<v Speaker 3>the website, okay, because there's a lot of people out

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<v Speaker 3>there which are listening and they're driving, or they're they're

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<v Speaker 3>out when they haven't got a pen or a pencil available,

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<v Speaker 3>so I make everything available down below.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, awesome, I'm so excited. This is so cool.

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<v Speaker 3>You've done just great. Was there anything in your in

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<v Speaker 3>your family history possibly relating to any of these gifts?

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<v Speaker 3>Did any family members ever speak of having precognition or

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<v Speaker 3>even had the ability to do readings?

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<v Speaker 1>No? Now, was it something they would talk about. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I mean, oh, my family is in the Netherlands,

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<v Speaker 1>but no, I don't recall. Is it the cousins that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still in touch with?

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<v Speaker 3>No, normally, or to be honest with you, it could

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<v Speaker 3>have skipped several generations and you just maybe never heard

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<v Speaker 3>about it. But there could well be someone and maybe

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<v Speaker 3>just never spoke about it, kind of kept it inside,

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<v Speaker 3>which people won't share what they these feelings and the

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<v Speaker 3>visions maybe that they were seeing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, no, and I totally get it, and also

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<v Speaker 1>you know their personality. Like myself, I don't like attention.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one thing to be standing before a classroom or

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<v Speaker 1>auditorium and weren't teaching, because I did teaching. I taught

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<v Speaker 1>dance classes and did a lot of lectures at university

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<v Speaker 1>and taught underground. Says that's that attention is different than

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<v Speaker 1>the attention of oh, you have this gift and you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do something that can be seen as I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, magical under this world. It's a different type

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<v Speaker 1>of attention.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree, Yeah, yeah, I know exactly what you mean, Patricia.

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<v Speaker 3>I really appreciate you coming on and sharing all that

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<v Speaker 3>for our listeners. It's been interesting, certainly a fascinating journey

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<v Speaker 3>for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it has been, and it continues it continues.

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<v Speaker 3>Indeed, Well we wish you a wonderful year ahead twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, wonderful, Thank you and God bless you all out there. Behave, behave.

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<v Speaker 3>The world needs to behave all right, okay, take care

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<v Speaker 3>of yourself, Patricia, okay, and we will speak soon, ma'am.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you bye for now. Well that's for the first

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<v Speaker 3>episode of Hopefully a Wonderful Year ahead. So keep yourself

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<v Speaker 3>updated and connected with the show on x Facebook and Instagram.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you have an encounter that you'd like to

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<v Speaker 3>share on the podcast, you can email me at UFO

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<v Speaker 3>Chronicles at gmail dot com, or you can reach out

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<v Speaker 3>to me via the contact page on my website UFO

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<v Speaker 3>Chronicles podcast dot com. A big thank you to Patricia

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<v Speaker 3>for sharing tonight, and thank you all for listening. I

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<v Speaker 3>will be back next week. Till then, stay safe and

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<v Speaker 3>keep watching the skies. Goodbye to
