Speaker 1: It's night Side with Dan Ray. I'm telling Easy Boston's.
Speaker 2: We're talking about that horrific attack in Boulder, Colorado. At
Speaker 2: this point, I'm sure most all of you have seen
Speaker 2: the video. There was some horrific video on some of
Speaker 2: the nightly newscast or at least on one nightly newscast
Speaker 2: denign on it that I was watching that showed this
Speaker 2: guy with Molotov cocktails. He actually threw the contents of
Speaker 2: the molotoph cocktail, which lit his own clothes on fire,
Speaker 2: as well as some of the peaceful Jewish demonstrators. Look
Speaker 2: to me, I just don't understand. This just doesn't seem
Speaker 2: to end. We talked with our friend Harvey Silverglate last hour,
Speaker 2: who feels it will never end. I just don't want
Speaker 2: to accept that view that this guy should never see
Speaker 2: the light of day. His family. I would say to
Speaker 2: port the family, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I know that
Speaker 2: you're not supposed to visit the sins of the father
Speaker 2: upon the son and all of that, but I think
Speaker 2: they got to go. In my opinion, there has to
Speaker 2: be a strong statement here that when you do something
Speaker 2: this insane, there's a price to pay, and unfortunately, his
Speaker 2: family will have to pay that price as well. They're
Speaker 2: not here legally they now have He's basically out of
Speaker 2: his own family. But I want to focus not on
Speaker 2: his punishment or his family's punishment. I want to focus
Speaker 2: on how we can stop this madness because it's gone
Speaker 2: on for too long centuries. Anyone who understands. Let me
Speaker 2: go to Jim down at the Cape. Jim, I want
Speaker 2: to get to as many people as possible. Welcome you
Speaker 2: next to a nightside.
Speaker 3: Darn, how are you.
Speaker 2: I'm doing okay under the circumstances. I'm pretty upset about this.
Speaker 2: I hope you are as well.
Speaker 3: We have a problem, Dan. The problem is if you
Speaker 3: are a Christian and you believe in the Declaration of
Speaker 3: Independence and you believe in the Constitution, we are at
Speaker 3: a very loser situation here. We're dealing with religious and
Speaker 3: land war. We're dealing with a group of people who
Speaker 3: are in a generational battle to eliminate the Jews. Generational
Speaker 3: they will outlast all of us because we suffer from
Speaker 3: our own rules, freedom of speech, due process, earn the
Speaker 3: other cheek. These are all enemies to solving this problem.
Speaker 3: It's not going to happen well.
Speaker 2: I understanding by the way, Jim, I think that you're
Speaker 2: reflecting somewhat what Harvey, my friend Harvey Silverglade said. But
Speaker 2: that's a dystopian you that I don't want. I don't
Speaker 2: want to associate with. I believe, I believe in freedom.
Speaker 2: I believe in due process. I believe in all that.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'm not saying takedad. I'm not saying
Speaker 3: take that away. Okay, dealing with a group of people
Speaker 3: of the Muslim faith will take advantage of them, and
Speaker 3: this way you will not conquer them. They will take
Speaker 3: advantage of freedom of speech.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, okay, let me let me, let me come,
Speaker 2: let me come, let me try to counter your argument. Okay,
Speaker 2: we dealt with uh, the German people in World War Two. Now,
Speaker 2: I know that all the German people did not support Hitler,
Speaker 2: but we went to war with Germany. We went to
Speaker 2: war with Japan. I don't think all the the Japanese
Speaker 2: people supported the Rising Sun military of of of the
Speaker 2: Japanese war machine. I don't think we can look at
Speaker 2: it as it's a religious war, because if you accept that,
Speaker 2: then it's onward Christian soldiers and let's see what the
Speaker 2: heck happens, and we'll all blow each other up. I
Speaker 2: just if I embrace your view, then then let's talk
Speaker 2: about something else. Let's let's talk about something less important.
Speaker 4: I want to try to no, no, no, no, this
Speaker 4: is very important to understand that the Muslim thing believes
Speaker 4: in the utter destruction of the Jews, and then they
Speaker 4: will beat us if you listen to them talk.
Speaker 2: It's generation some some some Muslims might believe.
Speaker 3: Okay, so there's a billion dan, and let's say it's
Speaker 3: twenty percent. Take twenty percent of a billion and tell
Speaker 3: me how many that is. It's a lot.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's twenty percent. And again I understand,
Speaker 2: and I understand your argument. I just don't accept it.
Speaker 2: And I think that when we talk about let me
Speaker 2: give you an example. Let me try to put a
Speaker 2: piece of evidence in front of you. We've seen some
Speaker 2: progress with the Abraham Accords. You're familiar with the Abraham Accords.
Speaker 2: I assume absolutely. Okay, Israel, which was totally isolated for decades,
Speaker 2: now is opening up some commercial trade routes, opening up
Speaker 2: some airplane mutual air air flights back and forth between
Speaker 2: Israel and some Muslim countries. And I think that ultimately
Speaker 2: people can be convinced that it's in everyone's interest to
Speaker 2: have have to prosper with peace then than to die
Speaker 2: through ideology. That doesn't mean that we will that we
Speaker 2: will convince them all, but I'm hoping, hoping that at
Speaker 2: the end of the day we can uh persuade enough
Speaker 2: people of whatever religion that uh, you know, I understand
Speaker 2: what you're saying, but I I I can't give up hope.
Speaker 2: If I give up hope, I should surrender this microphone.
Speaker 3: And I don't want you to hope. They want you
Speaker 3: to just hope. Damn hope is not a solution.
Speaker 2: So what's okay, give me the give me the solution.
Speaker 2: Sounds to me like you're so dystopian. You're saying there
Speaker 2: is no solution, I think, is what you're saying.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you Okay, Well that's okay.
Speaker 2: Well then okay, I understand what you're saying. I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna disagree with you. Build a bomb shelter, that's what
Speaker 2: you gotta do.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, This war is not between us. This war
Speaker 3: is between a certain group and another group that is
Speaker 3: never going to be statisfied.
Speaker 2: So what do you think when one of the when
Speaker 2: one of the bad groups gets a nuke and they
Speaker 2: decide to throw it in on Israel. Do you think
Speaker 2: we're gonna sit back and say, well, that's a tough
Speaker 2: break for Israel. I don't think so.
Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think that group is dumb
Speaker 3: enough to do it.
Speaker 2: Oh, let me tell you. Do me a favor. If
Speaker 2: you want to talk about go look at the leadership
Speaker 2: in Iran. Okay, it's not the group, it's the leadership.
Speaker 2: Jim dystopian view. Always appreciate it. I disagree with it,
Speaker 2: but thank you for presenting a different point of view.
Speaker 4: If you shut up and keep praying, I'll keep praying.
Speaker 2: I'll keep working too, Okay, because God helps those who
Speaker 2: help themselves. Thank you, Jim. We'll take a break only
Speaker 2: line six, one, seven nine. Bring it on. We've had
Speaker 2: If you want to agree with Jim, that's fine. I'm
Speaker 2: not going to agree with Jim, and I hope you don't,
Speaker 2: but I'm not gonna prevent you. I'm a First Amendment guy.
Speaker 2: Whatever your viewpoint, bring it on back on Nights Out
Speaker 2: after this.
Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBS Boston's
Speaker 1: news radio.
Speaker 2: Let's keep rolling. Here, I'm gonna try to pick the
Speaker 2: pace up a little bit. Mike and Beverley. Mike next
Speaker 2: on nightside.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, Hey you hand.
Speaker 2: Me, yes, sir, Mike here you perfectly go right ahead.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So wow, girl, bless it, Dan, I get me. Here's
Speaker 5: some of the comments today about the situation. This is
Speaker 5: exactly why this situation is gone like this. You know,
Speaker 5: the left wing party, you know, was shed to leave
Speaker 5: AOC Jasmine Crockett Senator to Shuma, like where are they
Speaker 5: and AOC and all of them are out on the
Speaker 5: left somewhere else. And then you know, you get the
Speaker 5: school situation around with the all the stuff going on
Speaker 5: the college campus is like it's it's off the hook.
Speaker 5: And then Trumps signed to get ready of it all
Speaker 5: and and all this sort of stuff, and the court
Speaker 5: systems and judges are all, you know, up and arms
Speaker 5: about it because oh first man, man, come on.
Speaker 2: But here's the deal, Mike, Mike, we can politicize it
Speaker 2: another night, Okay. I'm not looking to politicize it. What
Speaker 2: I'm trying to find people of both parties, of all
Speaker 2: political persuasions who will join tonight and say we have
Speaker 2: to stamp this out. Now. I have suggested. I have
Speaker 2: suggested that the media has a responsibility to stamp this out.
Speaker 2: That people who are influencers, famous athletes, famous actors and actresses,
Speaker 2: intellectual leaders, political leaders, including some who if you've mentioned,
Speaker 2: need to stand up and say to their constituents, this
Speaker 2: shall not stand. And people who do not want to
Speaker 2: join that chorus need to be outcast need to be castigated.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, this is the moment. This is a
Speaker 2: moment in time where you're either opposed to anti Semitiy
Speaker 2: or you're ambivalent. You you cannot be ambivalent. You cannot
Speaker 2: you can vote present. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I I get it, damn but unfortunate. Damn sorry, but
Speaker 5: it's not going to happen. Unfortunately because you had the
Speaker 5: left wing and know you want to policize it, but
Speaker 5: you know all that sort of stuff, Well they're not.
Speaker 2: No another one that's politicizing it, Mike. What I'm saying
Speaker 2: is I want to chale Mike, listen for me for
Speaker 2: one second, Okay, thank you. I want to challenge everybody. Okay,
Speaker 2: if there are people on the far right who still
Speaker 2: hold anti Semitic viewpoints, I want to isolate them, and
Speaker 2: uh and and and and keep them out of legitimate politics.
Speaker 2: I want to get rid of them. I don't want
Speaker 2: people who might agree with you and me on I
Speaker 2: don't know, let's say, closing the borders, but if if
Speaker 2: they if they harbor in tight Semitic viewpoints, I want
Speaker 2: nothing to do with them. At the same one, I
Speaker 2: want to leave and I want Omar and I want
Speaker 2: everyone on the progressive left to denounce this without question.
Speaker 2: Elon Omer would not denounce the killing of the two
Speaker 2: embassy staff people. A couple of weeks ago, she was
Speaker 2: asked about that, and she said, I have no comment.
Speaker 2: You could have no comment about a lot of stuff,
Speaker 2: but you can't have no comment about that because no
Speaker 2: comment about that is tacit approval.
Speaker 5: Of course, it is definitely is. You know, I don't
Speaker 5: know how else to describe it. Then yeah, I ain't
Speaker 5: to stand your point. You want both sides of it,
Speaker 5: And for me, I think the right is trying to
Speaker 5: clean it up. But you know, I want everyone to
Speaker 5: clean it up, Mike.
Speaker 2: I want everyone to clean it up. And somebody, if
Speaker 2: somebody has a couple of beers with you this weekend
Speaker 2: and tells a funny joke that that is that has
Speaker 2: that that of anti Semitism. I want you to have
Speaker 2: the guts to say to your friend, you know what,
Speaker 2: I don't find that funny. I don't find it funny,
Speaker 2: particularly in view of what happened in Colorado last week.
Speaker 2: That's what I think we need to start to do.
Speaker 2: I think, I think, and I think you have the
Speaker 2: uh ocones as as the Italians would say, to do that.
Speaker 2: I encourage you to do that.
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, thanks to talk to you.
Speaker 2: Let's keep rolling here, gonna go next to Eileen in Waltham.
Speaker 2: I lean you in next on nightsig go.
Speaker 6: Right ahead, something close to the home. Did you read
Speaker 6: anything on them? I T graduation.
Speaker 2: I think that there was some some student president.
Speaker 7: Who gave delivered delivered.
Speaker 2: Remarks which which she had not cleared with the administration,
Speaker 2: and then she was prevented from participating in the graduation.
Speaker 6: Is that what you're talking When she's started those eknocs.
Speaker 6: Why didn't the president of that college, sitting on the
Speaker 6: stage with her, get up and tell her to leave
Speaker 6: take a stand?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I think mit did take a stand. Now
Speaker 2: it could have been I didn't hear the remarks. I
Speaker 2: didn't know how long they went. I didn't know what.
Speaker 2: She could have delivered a speech for ten minutes, and
Speaker 2: the first nine minutes could have been very you know, acceptable, and.
Speaker 6: The Jewish students had time to get up and walk out.
Speaker 6: Most ok, Well, then that's it was inappropriate. It was
Speaker 6: an inappropriate speech. You have Jewish students there. They all
Speaker 6: got up and walked out. So the president, the president
Speaker 6: of the college could have got up at that point
Speaker 6: and said you need to leave too.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Let me ask you this, since I
Speaker 2: read the story in the paper that that she was
Speaker 2: not permitted to participate, I guess to walk across the
Speaker 2: stage or whatever it was. I wish I had the
Speaker 2: capacity to read all the manutia of every everything. What
Speaker 2: was it?
Speaker 6: If you persident, I should have got up and stood.
Speaker 2: Up right in the question for you. I got a question.
Speaker 6: That's that's that's encouraging it.
Speaker 8: Go ahead, Sorry, I.
Speaker 2: Got a question.
Speaker 8: Go ahead.
Speaker 2: What was it exactly that this student said? Because I
Speaker 2: don't know what she's.
Speaker 6: She came out with some claiming that basically Israel was
Speaker 6: committee genocide against the Palestidians, which.
Speaker 7: Is totally from the totally wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well again that might be her opinion.
Speaker 8: If the.
Speaker 6: Israel was committing genocide, they certainly are very very bad
Speaker 6: at itulation.
Speaker 2: I would I would agree with that point, I think,
Speaker 2: and I think that's that's an excellent point. Okay, thank
Speaker 2: you for bringing that to everyone. Have a great night,
Speaker 2: you too, good night. Let me go next to ken
Speaker 2: in Bridgewater. Can you were next time? I said, welcome,
Speaker 2: Go right ahead.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Hi, Dan, how you doing fine? Good good. So
Speaker 9: I'm just going to relay some information that i have
Speaker 9: because it's it's in my in my family. So first
Speaker 9: of all, I'm retired and I've got you know, I've
Speaker 9: got grandkids that are in the military, and and that's fine,
Speaker 9: and we're really proud of them. And I'm a Christian,
Speaker 9: but we love the Jews because you know, my Savior
Speaker 9: is a Jew.
Speaker 2: So you know, I've said something similar, Go right ahead.
Speaker 9: Okay. So that being said, I'll try to keep it
Speaker 9: very general. So someone in my family has a friend
Speaker 9: and this friend has a couple of nieces and nephews.
Speaker 9: I think they're around six and eight years old, and
Speaker 9: they attend a Muslim school. Now the family is it's
Speaker 9: a mixed family, so you have I think Protestant and
Speaker 9: Muslim faith and they're a prominent family in the community.
Speaker 9: Nice people, very nice people, beautiful children, very nice. They
Speaker 9: go to Muslim school locally, not in this area where
Speaker 9: I am established. Yeah, okay. So they come home and
Speaker 9: they've got these these little bags and they're they're asking
Speaker 9: friends and friends of family. They're doing a collection for
Speaker 9: the people of Gaza because it's it's you know, there's
Speaker 9: a war going on, and it's all very nice and
Speaker 9: they want to get you know, maybe some clothing items
Speaker 9: and maybe if you have some money to donate, and
Speaker 9: it's all very nice, and the school is going to
Speaker 9: put it all together. And then the little girl says
Speaker 9: to the mom. She says, but we are not going
Speaker 9: to give anything to the Jews because we hate the Jews.
Speaker 2: Well, someone's planting that in that child's mind.
Speaker 9: Well that's coming from the Muslim school. So my jaw
Speaker 9: drops and when I hear this, and I just add
Speaker 9: this tonight because it just adds to the scope of
Speaker 9: the problem. And this is what's going on over in
Speaker 9: the Mid East too, because it's just in it's just
Speaker 9: drilled into heads of the children that they hate the Jews.
Speaker 2: No, and I've seen that, by the way, I have
Speaker 2: seen reports on that, and I understand that. And obviously
Speaker 2: for people who historically don't know, what happened was there
Speaker 2: was an election in Gaza in two thousand and six
Speaker 2: and the Palestinian people elected a government run by Hamas.
Speaker 2: Hamas has never had a second of follow on election,
Speaker 2: and they elected bad people just like right, we could
Speaker 2: elect the bad president, or we could elect the badness
Speaker 2: or a bad that, and they are now suffering the
Speaker 2: consequences of that choice from two thousand and six, which
Speaker 2: has never stood for reelection. I would hope that if
Speaker 2: there was a reelection today, they were Democrats. You know,
Speaker 2: I must say I will acknowledge Hamas was democratically elected.
Speaker 2: I don't know if we had observers there from the
Speaker 2: United Nations or from the United States to make sure
Speaker 2: the election, but I read nothing to suggest that the
Speaker 2: election in two thousand and six was anything but above board.
Speaker 2: But there's been no greed follow on election, and there
Speaker 2: was a lot of that stuff that goes on there
Speaker 2: where they try to inculcate kids with hatred. My problem
Speaker 2: is that in this country, in this country, we have
Speaker 2: to make our kids in our schools understand that the
Speaker 2: Holocaust did exist, and that the bias and the anti
Speaker 2: Semitism towards Jewish people has existed for centuries, that they
Speaker 2: were as in Eastern Europe for many years, nothing that
Speaker 2: anybody should be proud of. That during World War two
Speaker 2: and leading up to World War two, Catholics in Poland
Speaker 2: turned a blind eye to what was going on in
Speaker 2: the concentration camps. Those are all things that no one
Speaker 2: should be proud of, but they need to be acknowledged
Speaker 2: and accepted, and people understand that those mistakes can never
Speaker 2: again be allowed to occur. That's that's all I'm trying
Speaker 2: to say. And I want to hear from people who
Speaker 2: who we admire. I want to hear from professional athletes
Speaker 2: who we admire, whether it's you know, again David Ortiz
Speaker 2: or Derek Jeter or or or Tom Brady or or
Speaker 2: whatever whomever it is, and in every city in America,
Speaker 2: and from actors and actors is all of those people
Speaker 2: who we hold up on pedicials. I want to hear
Speaker 2: from them denouncing anti Semitism. I want schools to denounce
Speaker 2: anti semitism before it's too late.
Speaker 9: Okay, right, agreed, It's very serious, and I agree with
Speaker 9: you and and your forum here on your show is
Speaker 9: a great platform to get the self. Gives people something
Speaker 9: to think about and then maybe hopefully take some action.
Speaker 2: So well, I'm trying as hard as I I'm trying
Speaker 2: as hard as I can. I wish, I wish they
Speaker 2: were more people who I heard will hear from tonight.
Speaker 2: The phones have been pretty busy, but I like to
Speaker 2: see these phones five lines full and then as soon
Speaker 2: as one line drops, this one line open right now,
Speaker 2: which is which troubles me. Okay, I don't like to
Speaker 2: see lines open. I want to see that line folds
Speaker 2: six seven nine thirty when you drop, I want someone
Speaker 2: to fill six foot seven two five four to ten thirty. Anyway, Okay,
Speaker 2: again you as a listener, again as a caller, thank you,
Speaker 2: be right back on night's side. Got two lines, one
Speaker 2: at six one seven and one at six one seven nine.
Speaker 2: Uh Tammy in Ohio will join us next. I got Matt,
Speaker 2: I got Ramon in Leminster, and I got room for you.
Speaker 2: Please don't be complicit in this. Silence is tacit approval.
Speaker 2: If you want to tell me I'm wrong bring it on. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'd much prefer to hear from as many voices tonight,
Speaker 2: young and old, of all backgrounds, denouncing anti Semitism. It
Speaker 2: is evil. It is an evil that we need to
Speaker 2: get rid of in our society. Back on Nightside, after this.
Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: Back to the phones we go. Let's go to Tammy
Speaker 2: in Ohio. Tammy, appreciate your patience. You're next on night Side.
Speaker 10: You're awesome.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Tom. I appreciate that. That's a good start.
Speaker 2: He's gonna be all downhill from here. Go ahead. Damn.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 10: I just want to make a quick statement.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 10: I work with a guy who is Jewish, and after
Speaker 10: what happened in Israel, he like clammed up. You know,
Speaker 10: he went and talk to anybody. You know, he's on
Speaker 10: his own. He grew up in Man and I don't
Speaker 10: know how he ended up here. Yeahda yeah, Okay. So
Speaker 10: now he's like he's realizing that everyone around him is
Speaker 10: not going to let anybody hurt him.
Speaker 2: Okay, So what you're saying is that he now is fearful,
Speaker 2: is what you're saying to me.
Speaker 10: No, No, he's not, because he's surrounded by the people
Speaker 10: that he's around, you know, you know, all right, Okay.
Speaker 2: Okay, So what you're saying is he has a group
Speaker 2: of people, including you, who will who have his back. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's wonderful, that's wonderful. Whereabouts in Ohio are you? Don't
Speaker 2: tell me what will you work? But what town where
Speaker 2: you located in Ohio?
Speaker 10: I I don't want to give it up.
Speaker 2: That's fine, no problem, that's no problem. Let me ask you.
Speaker 2: Have you called my show before? Is it's your first
Speaker 2: time calling?
Speaker 10: No, this was my first time.
Speaker 2: Well, we got to give you a love.
Speaker 10: I can't ask the baseball games and everything.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to give you round of applause, thank
Speaker 2: you for you're like my uh Paul Revere. Well, I
Speaker 2: kind of some days do feel like a Paul Revere.
Speaker 2: Paul Revere's hometown and he had to warn people about
Speaker 2: the British are coming. I feel some nights I got
Speaker 2: to get on a high horse here and yell at
Speaker 2: people and say, hey, we got too much anti Semitism
Speaker 2: in this country. And it's not up to the Jewish
Speaker 2: people to stop it. It's up to us who are
Speaker 2: non Jewish. And I assume with a name like Tammy.
Speaker 2: You probably are not Jewish. Maybe you are. I don't know,
Speaker 2: but I'm not. And but this really bothers me. It's
Speaker 2: as simple as that.
Speaker 11: Keep up the good work.
Speaker 10: Do you have a good evening?
Speaker 2: You too, Tammy? Do me a favor. I'm looking forward
Speaker 2: to calling back. Okay, thanks, thank you so much. Have
Speaker 2: a great night. Good night. Let me go to Matt.
Speaker 2: Matt a little closer to home. Hey, Matt, next on nights.
Speaker 12: I go ahead, Hey, Dan, how you doing.
Speaker 2: I'm doing fine. I wish we had, you know more,
Speaker 2: last hour was a little slower than I wanted, but
Speaker 2: it's picking up.
Speaker 8: Go ahead, well, I mean, I definitely have been vocal
Speaker 8: on this subject. I think this is important subject, not
Speaker 8: only domestically. It is what's going on when somebody in
Speaker 8: Colorado has a terror attack and decides to throw molotov
Speaker 8: cocktails and attack twelve people after being here told to
Speaker 8: leave and his family needs to leave on one point,
Speaker 8: yelling out free Palestine, playing it on and off as
Speaker 8: which these people are trying to separate the two. We're
Speaker 8: trying to call it.
Speaker 7: No, we don't like this.
Speaker 8: Like Jews, there's anti Zionism. They hate us. They hate me,
Speaker 8: They hate me as a Jew from in America. They
Speaker 8: hate my grandparents who went through the Holocaust, and who
Speaker 8: would have I have so many great friends from Iran
Speaker 8: and from that area. There are good people there. I
Speaker 8: stand for those good people. For the people who don't,
Speaker 8: I don't stand for it. And it's one point eight
Speaker 8: billion buff billion Muslims in the world, and I know
Speaker 8: means are they all bad? There are too many people
Speaker 8: calling in with me misinformation and what I'm saying, okay,
Speaker 8: so they can correct me, but I'm going to call
Speaker 8: it close to the factual and I could base it.
Speaker 8: And it's just it's just angering to me to hear here. Dan,
Speaker 8: you know how I feel. I grew up like this
Speaker 8: and it's just very disappointing to see the diatribe of
Speaker 8: anti Semitism all over. People say that I'm a genocidal maniac,
Speaker 8: and I just i'min a Jew here in America. I
Speaker 8: get that told all the time to me, Well.
Speaker 2: You shouldn't have to put up with that. That's the
Speaker 2: sort of language that you know, we have free speech,
Speaker 2: but also I have free speech and I have a microphone,
Speaker 2: and that's why I'm opening this microphone up tonight and
Speaker 2: I'll do it again. There's just some of these attacks
Speaker 2: have been horrific. What happened in Bolder, Colorado. What happened
Speaker 2: in Washington, DC with the young couple, by the way,
Speaker 2: the young woman who was from Prey Village, Kansas, she's Jewish, Okay.
Speaker 2: The guy who was killed, who grew up in Israel,
Speaker 2: happened to have been Christian. Ironically, so this this guy
Speaker 2: you know, killed an American Jew uh and and a
Speaker 2: Christian Israeli uh and was yelling free Palestine. And when
Speaker 2: these people yelled free Palestine and from the river to
Speaker 2: the sea, uh and uh a Infidada, now Infidada forever.
Speaker 2: You know what that means, Matt, I mean, I know,
Speaker 2: I know, I know what it means that I know
Speaker 2: what it means, and it goes both ways.
Speaker 8: I will not saying that there are people who are
Speaker 8: not of Jewish or Judaic faith, who are not on
Speaker 8: the opposite side. And there were in these campuses growing
Speaker 8: these things. If it's becoming a popular movement, the somebody book,
Speaker 8: no clue what's going on. Want to make some friends
Speaker 8: on campus, want to have a tent set up, and
Speaker 8: I can understand some of it, but I want to
Speaker 8: hear real numbers, and I want to hear your actual
Speaker 8: dialogue where people can come to the table equally discuss
Speaker 8: and solve the problem and not just throw insults at
Speaker 8: each other. It annoys me, but it doesn't get the
Speaker 8: name man.
Speaker 2: I hear all right, fair enough, Matt, I appreciate it's
Speaker 2: always got full lines. Gotta keep rolling. But he talk
Speaker 2: to you soon. Thanks for you. Call Ramone in Leminster. Hi, Ramone,
Speaker 2: Welcome to Night Side.
Speaker 11: How are you hey? Not too bad yourself?
Speaker 2: I'm hanging in there. Have I had the pleasure of
Speaker 2: your company on this show before? Is this your first
Speaker 2: time calling?
Speaker 11: No? I have I have we have talking before?
Speaker 2: Okay, what's up? Let's your take?
Speaker 11: Oh well, I'm not I'm not you wish I'm not Palestinian.
Speaker 11: I mean I have been watching both sides for a while.
Speaker 11: Israel that they can rule all these people that they
Speaker 11: looking for without taking so many he's the war. I mean,
Speaker 11: I have just seen too many women and children that
Speaker 11: being slaughter. And I mean and that i've been Colorado
Speaker 11: shouldn't have had happened as well. But I mean, if
Speaker 11: you put them, if you put both things on the
Speaker 11: scale of the amount of people that are dying. I
Speaker 11: do not agree with the people that are dying. But
Speaker 11: like I said, I'm just looking for and when is
Speaker 11: it gonna stop? When are they gonna stop killing women
Speaker 11: and children?
Speaker 2: I mean, so Ramon, just so I understand here when
Speaker 2: you say when are they going to stop killing women
Speaker 2: and children? Who's the day we're talking about?
Speaker 11: Well, I mean the war that is going on now
Speaker 11: with Israel and the Palestinian I you.
Speaker 2: Know, they But I'm trying to understand. I'm just trying
Speaker 2: to understand, and I'm just looking for some clarity here.
Speaker 2: You said they got to stop. I think I heard
Speaker 2: you say they a pronoun, a plural pronoun. They got
Speaker 2: to stop killing women and children. Who's the day we're
Speaker 2: talking about?
Speaker 11: Well, it's Israel. I mean the war is between Palestine
Speaker 11: and Israel.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think the wars between Palestine and Israel
Speaker 2: the wars between Hamas and Israel. Let me ask you this, correct, Well,
Speaker 2: let me ask you this. If I could, Ramon, if
Speaker 2: if Hamas had not attacked and slaughtered Israelis in October
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty three, beheaded children, killed, grandmothers, and grandfathers,
Speaker 2: you know, and killed parents and rape. Yeah. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: what what should have what should have Israel done at
Speaker 2: that point? Should have they just said, hey, it's been
Speaker 2: it's just a bad day here, or what should have they? No?
Speaker 11: No, I mean if due to the conflict the war
Speaker 11: has stop it, I mean I think with the technology
Speaker 11: capabilities that they have, they should have a more type
Speaker 11: of like who they killing here? I mean, like I said,
Speaker 11: I don't agree we're now to that, but I mean
Speaker 11: I just feel that.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, Ramon if I could, do
Speaker 2: you think that when America bombed Germany and bomb Dresden
Speaker 2: in the enduring World War two? Do you think that
Speaker 2: we killed any innocent German women and children?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 11: Yes, I think that's what it's called casualties.
Speaker 2: Of war exactly exactly. Yea.
Speaker 11: But I mean they might as well just go ahead
Speaker 11: and drop a noop and get it over with over there,
Speaker 11: you know, I mean, the way they're going, Well.
Speaker 2: I hope that doesn't happen. All I'm just saying is
Speaker 2: that when you start a war, when Hamas starts a
Speaker 2: war and they hide in the basements of wre of
Speaker 2: hospitals and schools, I don't know what we would expect
Speaker 2: Israel to do, that's all. But look, you presented a
Speaker 2: different point of view. You presented it rationally, and I
Speaker 2: thank you for calling.
Speaker 11: Oh well, thank you very much. It's just I mean,
Speaker 11: I don't know. I don't know what this world is
Speaker 11: coming to.
Speaker 2: Thank you. I don't think we're headed in a good direction.
Speaker 2: Thanks for mom. We'll talk soon, all right, gon take
Speaker 2: quick break. We got one more segment coming up. I
Speaker 2: try to get everybody in you stay right there, coming
Speaker 2: back on night Side.
Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2: Okay, we got full lines. Let's try to get everybody
Speaker 2: in here. I'm going to ask everybody to tighten it up.
Speaker 2: There's Steve in the truck in New York. Steve, where
Speaker 2: are you headed to?
Speaker 5: I'm heading off.
Speaker 12: I'm going to chick Apee and up to Leiston, Maine.
Speaker 12: But Dan, I feel it having this that you feel
Speaker 12: with October seventh, as a lot of people do a
Speaker 12: frustration with Mario to call of they just those people
Speaker 12: have just bought into an evil ideology. That's just evil,
Speaker 12: that's just wrong. I love Israel because God, that's God's
Speaker 12: chosen people, and I'll tell you when stuff like this
Speaker 12: happens that just oh, you just know who the evil.
Speaker 11: One is, you know.
Speaker 12: And I really have a hard time thinking it's going
Speaker 12: to stop. But education is very important, as you said,
Speaker 12: But I just seeing it intensifying because we don't have
Speaker 12: a lot of time left. I know that sounds more
Speaker 12: of it, but biblically we don't. And that's why you're
Speaker 12: seeing everything intensified. Dan.
Speaker 4: That's all.
Speaker 2: Well, So I hope that that we that we can
Speaker 2: turn this around. And i'd like to start to write
Speaker 2: and this will be a theme of the program. And
Speaker 2: I hope I get professional athletes, you know, football players,
Speaker 2: baseball players, basketball players, hockey players, soccer players who people admire, influencers,
Speaker 2: young people, old people, middle aged people, everybody, just to
Speaker 2: announce this and say this has gone on for too long,
Speaker 2: too many centuries. Steve, be careful, please drive carefully tonight,
Speaker 2: Please drive well.
Speaker 12: Thank you, thanks you please.
Speaker 2: Steve has always talked soon. Michael and Attleborough. Michael next
Speaker 2: on Nisaga right ahead, Yeah, good sir, you tight on time.
Speaker 2: I want to hear from you.
Speaker 4: I don't get this. I don't get it.
Speaker 7: You grew up like me. I believe you're a.
Speaker 2: Writer around my age, and the biggest thing we got
Speaker 2: was you got the Irish, got you Italians.
Speaker 5: You don't know a lot about the Jewish. You were
Speaker 5: just sold they were rich.
Speaker 2: Now, you know, that's really not my experience. My experience.
Speaker 2: I grew up in a little port of Boston called Reedville,
Speaker 2: which is part of High Park. And the people who
Speaker 2: my family taught me to admire with the merchants on
Speaker 2: Blue Hill Avenue, the butcher's and the baker and the
Speaker 2: candlestick makers, and these were not wealthy people. These were
Speaker 2: people who worked hard, right, right. But I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, you know, when you mentioned h different nationalities,
Speaker 2: it was none of this.
Speaker 8: All of the Jewish you're so say hate for them,
Speaker 8: There was none of that.
Speaker 7: And my mother, if I said something bad like that,
Speaker 7: I would have got whacked.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I agree, there was even now the
Speaker 2: world was the word no, well again had a slang
Speaker 2: word for that. Yeah. No. But what I'm saying is,
Speaker 2: when when I was growing up, the idea was that
Speaker 2: by the people who who ran the businesses and the
Speaker 2: stores on Blue Hill Avenue, you know, the GG Delicatessen,
Speaker 2: those those people who were to be admired, you know,
Speaker 2: and and you know, I remember, you know, reading the
Speaker 2: biography of Mo Burgh, the baseball catcher who was a
Speaker 2: spy for the US prior to World War Two while
Speaker 2: he was on a tour of Japan with Major League
Speaker 2: Baseball players. His purpose was to find out about military
Speaker 2: installations over there. We knew we were going to war
Speaker 2: with Japan. And Mo Burg was a was a professional
Speaker 2: baseball player, catch for the Red Sox, and he was
Speaker 2: a soldier spy. So you know, those were heroes. Jesse
Speaker 2: Owens was a hero. Jesse Owens put to lie the
Speaker 2: the Aryan complex that Hitler believed in, and that was
Speaker 2: all predecessor in nineteen thirty six Olympics. So we just
Speaker 2: got to kind of instill that back in people these days.
Speaker 2: I don't know how many kids today know who Mo
Speaker 2: Burg was or know who Jesse Owens was.
Speaker 8: That's all knocking to you can't you can't change it
Speaker 8: because of the internet.
Speaker 2: Well said, we could use the internet. We need to
Speaker 2: use the internet. Michael. I got to run here because
Speaker 2: I got we've done. We've done. Thank you much for
Speaker 2: you call. I appreciate your friend all right, going to
Speaker 2: get everybody in here quickly, Jeff and Whitman. Jeff next
Speaker 2: on nightside. We're getting tight on time. Go ahead, Jeff,
Speaker 2: so Van.
Speaker 7: If there's always a problem that you brought brush people
Speaker 7: based on their nationality, we get it from say like
Speaker 7: the stereotypical French person spitting on the ground when you
Speaker 7: say you're American.
Speaker 11: We do.
Speaker 7: The Arabs do it to us. But and they're doing
Speaker 7: it to the Israelis. They're going after Jewish people because
Speaker 7: of what happened there and what their opinions are. But
Speaker 7: if we do that to the Palestinians, oh, everybody is
Speaker 7: bad for doing that. You got to give them extra room.
Speaker 7: But with that culture, I mean, you have a indoctrination
Speaker 7: at very young of kill the Jews. They even have
Speaker 7: children's books about doing that to get kids indoctrinated. No,
Speaker 7: I know that got.
Speaker 2: Br We you know, we can't go in there and
Speaker 2: by force of military prevent these schools that they teach that.
Speaker 2: But we we can. We can teach that in our schools.
Speaker 2: We can make people understand the history. That's all I'm
Speaker 2: trying to say. And we we we need to have
Speaker 2: PSAs here in America. You know, using professional athletes people.
Speaker 2: Young kids look up to athletes, they look up to actors, actresses,
Speaker 2: Internet people. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm really.
Speaker 2: It's almost like something simple. Let's give piece of chance.
Speaker 2: Let's give education a chance. That's all.
Speaker 7: I'm a child of the eighties. We have PSAs, we
Speaker 7: had Snuffy the fire Engine, we had the Man, we
Speaker 7: had g I Joe, bring it back. I'm with you,
Speaker 7: all right.
Speaker 2: Jeff, thank you much, man, appreciate it. Two we're gonna
Speaker 2: get too. And Christine, I got room for you and
Speaker 2: room for Michael. Go ahead, Christine.
Speaker 11: I think it's so sad. What is happening.
Speaker 6: So it's outright, it's so sad, and.
Speaker 2: We got to somehow tune it. We got to somehow
Speaker 2: tune it around. We can lament it, but let's let's
Speaker 2: fix it. Let's change it.
Speaker 10: How come nobody nobody's saying anything like the politicians or anybody.
Speaker 8: It's it's being like just swept under the run.
Speaker 2: Well, won't be swept out of the rug on nightside,
Speaker 2: and we'll call we'll call politicians out and every one
Speaker 2: of these politicians should be put on on the spot
Speaker 2: and have and have them denounce. If you can't announce
Speaker 2: what happened in Colorado, you shouldn't meet in the in
Speaker 2: the public spotlight.
Speaker 6: In my opinion, right exactly, Thanks for sactly.
Speaker 2: Thank you appreciate it. Uh done for the night everybody.
Speaker 2: To those of you who called and made sense, thank you,
Speaker 2: thank you very much. You did not disappoint. I'll be
Speaker 2: back tomorrownight and I'm going to get on Facebook Live
Speaker 2: Nightside with Dan Ray in just a moment. I want
Speaker 2: to thank Rob, I want to thank Marita, I want
Speaker 2: to thank all the calls. I want to thank all
Speaker 2: of the listeners, and I want to remind you all dogs,
Speaker 2: all cats, all pets go to heaven. That's what Mike
Speaker 2: pal Charlie Rays who passed fifteen years ago in February.
Speaker 2: That's why your pets are who passed. They loved you,
Speaker 2: You loved that. I do believe you'll see them again.
Speaker 2: See again tomorrow night on night Side everyone, Dan Ray
Speaker 2: for Nightside. Have a good Wednesday.