Speaker 1: Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning.
Speaker 2: Hey, how are you come on in? Let's have a
Speaker 2: talk about what's happening lately. You know, I'm kind of
Speaker 2: gonna skip over a little bit because Destiny is the
Speaker 2: little sister for Earth ancients. And I got some news
Speaker 2: that just can't wait. You know, we have been talking
Speaker 2: and reporting on this what we thought was new satellite
Speaker 2: imagery called SARS Synthetic Aperture Radar, and there have been
Speaker 2: all types of claims from it piercing the underground up
Speaker 2: to a couple of miles to show everything and anything,
Speaker 2: and piercing rock and some meant and all types of
Speaker 2: sediment to get underground, to get into the body of
Speaker 2: the Great Pyramids and other structures. And many people, rightly so,
Speaker 2: have questioned this because how does a satellite beam pierce
Speaker 2: the ground and get underground. Well, I have it on
Speaker 2: good authority from a former serviceman Air Force serviceman and
Speaker 2: I can't give out his name, that SARS has been
Speaker 2: part of the satellite arsenal for many years weaponry used
Speaker 2: in armed forces, and they have something similar to SARS.
Speaker 2: I think it's called SAAAR, and I don't know what
Speaker 2: the other A stands for, but apparently they've been using
Speaker 2: it effectively for something like thirty years, and according to him,
Speaker 2: it can pierce the ground and go underground over a mile.
Speaker 2: So now I am completely I mean, I'm excited, but
Speaker 2: I'm a little perplexed because the imagery we got back
Speaker 2: from Beoni.
Speaker 1: And May.
Speaker 2: And the team, the Stars team, the Italian team, you know,
Speaker 2: it shows these images and now we can kind of think, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: these are actually going underground and it's actually showing these
Speaker 2: long tubular protrusions, and it's showing rooms, and it's showing
Speaker 2: walkways and tunnels, and that's just underneath the Cufu and
Speaker 2: Kaffree Pyramid. And two years ago, twenty twenty two, and
Speaker 2: I was I couldn't believe it when those images came out.
Speaker 2: What looks to be rooms, canals and shafts in the
Speaker 2: Cufu and Kaffree Pyramid are actually there, are actually there.
Speaker 2: So this is something that has been kept under wraps
Speaker 2: until very recently. I asked if this gentleman would come
Speaker 2: forth and speak publicly. He is not allowed to, and
Speaker 2: he wouldn't say to me if he had signed an
Speaker 2: NBA or not non disclosure agreement or not. And he
Speaker 2: didn't say if he was still in service or not,
Speaker 2: but he made it very plain to me through email
Speaker 2: that this type of scanning technology was very much in
Speaker 2: play and actively being used by the military. Now, what
Speaker 2: that also tells me is that it's being used for
Speaker 2: placement of bunker bombs. These are these huge bombs, sixty
Speaker 2: ton or bigger bombs that are used to pierce the surface,
Speaker 2: pierce cement, concrete, and attack underground and reinforced buildings, military buildings.
Speaker 2: And that makes sense. You know, if it's a half
Speaker 2: a mile underground or more, how are you going to
Speaker 2: know where to where to drop the bomb? Well, this
Speaker 2: s a ar star like satellite imagery would have to
Speaker 2: be in play. So the other thing, and I don't
Speaker 2: I didn't bring this up until I went back and
Speaker 2: looked at it. The scan gate that was used by
Speaker 2: Carmen Bolter and Klaus Donna was a military scanning technology
Speaker 2: used by the British. And I'm really beginning to wonder
Speaker 2: if it's the same type of scanning tech, very very
Speaker 2: top secret that the Americans have that we use. So
Speaker 2: this is brand new news. I don't know how Bioni.
Speaker 2: Filipo Bioni, the technician on the Star's team, was able
Speaker 2: to get that satellite to scan the pyramid, to scan
Speaker 2: underneath the pyramid or if it was declassified, and this
Speaker 2: must be the way, this must be the story. It's
Speaker 2: declassified data. Just mind blowing, just amazing. Now we're gonna
Speaker 2: be seeing renditions of these underground scans of the Cufun
Speaker 2: Caffree Pyramid real, real soon. I'm hoping within the year.
Speaker 2: We just had Trevor Grassi on talking about Hawara the Labyrinth,
Speaker 2: and I'm wondering if we're gonna get clarification on that
Speaker 2: as well, because what they had to do is they
Speaker 2: had to tune it in a little bit. They had
Speaker 2: to adjust the frequency to have more of a solid image,
Speaker 2: and then we get into three dimensional renderings, and I'd
Speaker 2: love to see a good rendering of what's underneath the
Speaker 2: pyramids in Giza. So anyhow, that's the latest news. It
Speaker 2: is exciting and it is groundbreaking, and it is very
Speaker 2: rare that we understand are giving the a look at
Speaker 2: this top secret technology that is being used in archaeology
Speaker 2: with great success. I might add as well, so SARS tech. Wow, amazing. Hey,
Speaker 2: today's program is on allergies. It's a program that I've
Speaker 2: wanted to have on for a while. Not only allergies asthma,
Speaker 2: and you know, every spring and summer, even in the
Speaker 2: fall and winter, people have allergic reactions to blooming flowers, weed, grasses,
Speaker 2: and we even get into food allergies as well, and
Speaker 2: this is something that we want to address. But the
Speaker 2: beauty of today's program is we're looking at it from
Speaker 2: a holistic perspective. And our guest today is a allopathic
Speaker 2: doctor who got tired of recommending steroids and very powerful
Speaker 2: anahystamines that really damaged the immune system rather than strengthen it.
Speaker 2: And he has come across and is now using a
Speaker 2: whole new holistic system that relieves people of really debilitating allergies.
Speaker 2: And of course, if you have asthma, that's really really debilitying.
Speaker 2: Some people have had childhood asthma and are restricted in
Speaker 2: their activities and are restricted in what they can do
Speaker 2: as young people, and it's just really really a challenge.
Speaker 2: And the typical allopathic remedies are just too much. They're toxic,
Speaker 2: they're powerful immune suppressant drugs. So my program today is
Speaker 2: The program today is called Allergy and Asthma Solution, the
Speaker 2: ultimate program for reversing your symptoms, one drop out a time.
Speaker 2: And my guest is doctor Dean Mitchell, and this is
Speaker 2: a real fun interview from a really inspiring and heads
Speaker 2: up doc. So I hope you enjoy it. You know,
Speaker 2: every so often I do a tour that I consider
Speaker 2: a vision quiz. This is where you start and you
Speaker 2: finish and you have been transformed in some respect from
Speaker 2: the interaction with pyramids, with shaman, with special people. And
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Speaker 2: we're gonna be led through a series of programs initiations,
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Speaker 2: is all about tools for transformation. We have a good
Speaker 2: one for you today. We're into the summer months and
Speaker 2: that means allergies are on the rampage. If you are
Speaker 2: somebody who deals with allergies or asthma, this is a
Speaker 2: good show for you. My guest today is doctor Dean Mitchell.
Speaker 2: He has written a book called Allergy and Asthma Solution,
Speaker 2: The Ultimate program for reversing your symptoms one drop at
Speaker 2: a time. And the reason that we have doctor Mitchell
Speaker 2: on the program is this is a holistic approach to
Speaker 2: treating allergies and asthma. That is I think kind of radical.
Speaker 2: Although the book came out in twenty oh six, I
Speaker 2: think we're going to learn today that there is a
Speaker 2: great solution to your issue. So doctor Mitchell, welcome to Destiny.
Speaker 2: Great to have you on the program.
Speaker 1: Thank you, it's really pleasure.
Speaker 2: Hey, tell us a little bit about your background. You
Speaker 2: are actually you're an allopath. Obviously you went to med school,
Speaker 2: but as an allergist, what was your interest during your education,
Speaker 2: because that's kind of a typical specialty.
Speaker 1: That's a good question, you know. I trained in the
Speaker 1: mid to late nineteen eighties in New York at the
Speaker 1: height of the AIDS epidemic. So coming right out of
Speaker 1: medical school, I came into the hospitals here in New
Speaker 1: York City and immediately as the very young doctor, was
Speaker 1: taking care of twenty AIDS patients and it was a
Speaker 1: really harrowing time because patients were dying every week. We
Speaker 1: didn't really have the medications that we have today that's
Speaker 1: made in a chronic Liverpool condition, and those initial three
Speaker 1: years of internal medicine residency got an amazing amount of unfortunately,
Speaker 1: of exposure to these patients that had all kinds of
Speaker 1: infectious diseases. So it was really it's the kind of
Speaker 1: thing that leaves an imprint on your career. And then
Speaker 1: I did two more years of training at the same
Speaker 1: hospital in allergy, infectious diseases, and I meanology. It was
Speaker 1: a combined type of program. So again I had the contrast.
Speaker 1: I was working at times in the hospital with very
Speaker 1: ill patients. The other times I was going to the
Speaker 1: clinic and seeing children and adults with allergies, asthma. You know,
Speaker 1: the kind of things that are you know, outpatient, you know,
Speaker 1: routine things that you commonly see in practice. And I
Speaker 1: think we'll start to sit with me and we'll kind
Speaker 1: of see the rest of my evolution into holistic medicine.
Speaker 1: I kind of got the feeling, you know. I always
Speaker 1: tell the medical students that I teach. I said, you know,
Speaker 1: youve got to make a really important decision while you're
Speaker 1: in medical school at some point, like where do you
Speaker 1: what field do you think you want to practice? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's so different. If you're obviously a rediologist or
Speaker 1: antesceesiologist you're not really talking to patients very much, you know,
Speaker 1: or a pathologist they're dealing a lot with people who
Speaker 1: have passed I knew I liked dealing with patients. I
Speaker 1: also knew I like dealing with children and adults. I
Speaker 1: think I would have been the classic family practitioner EP. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I like taking care of families. You learned so much.
Speaker 1: But I also always had this strong desire and interest
Speaker 1: in immunology, you know, and really dating back to like
Speaker 1: Louis Pastor and all the great immunology, just like how
Speaker 1: they actually cured diseases through using your own immune system,
Speaker 1: you know, through vaccinations at that time. So I think
Speaker 1: that's where I ended up going into the field that
Speaker 1: I went into. And I guess I said, I really
Speaker 1: enjoyed not being pigeonholed into all you just take care
Speaker 1: of either elderly men like would say in neurology, or
Speaker 1: you're a pediatrician, you just take care of children. I
Speaker 1: like taking care of all ages.
Speaker 2: So you have a private practice where you see all ages.
Speaker 2: And as an allergist, are you are you that's specifically
Speaker 2: what you're seeing patients for or you kind of still
Speaker 2: kind of grab a little bit of everything, and.
Speaker 1: Well, my practice is really evolved. I would say the
Speaker 1: first decade of my practice was strictly aalogy you know,
Speaker 1: seeing kids asthma, allergic eczema and all kinds of sinus
Speaker 1: and stuff interesting, and over time actually accep in practice
Speaker 1: with my wife, who's the smarter in the office. Here,
Speaker 1: I started to gravitate into holistic medicine. I actually did
Speaker 1: very specialized training with somebody Northern California, doctor Dean Ornish. Yeah, programs,
Speaker 1: he's He was a big influence on me about how
Speaker 1: you know, his work, which is fascinating. You know, reversing
Speaker 1: heart disease through diet and lifestyle had a tremendous impact
Speaker 1: on me at you know, early in my career, and
Speaker 1: I kept on following that thread. You know, I did
Speaker 1: some training with John cabot Zim's program on meditation and
Speaker 1: Wow Yoga, So it kept on taking me deeper and
Speaker 1: deeper in And yet I was trying to balance my
Speaker 1: conventional medicine with that because I do think it's important.
Speaker 1: I said, I sew patients. I said, I'm the ven
Speaker 1: diagram between these two worlds. I think that's why a
Speaker 1: lot of patients come to see me. I'm grounded and
Speaker 1: I was trained by really good conventional alopathic doctors because
Speaker 1: I think our diagnostic capabilities are important, and you know,
Speaker 1: but on the other hand, again, when I found that,
Speaker 1: I actually, as I said, I learned from my wife
Speaker 1: there there were times when I felt like, gosh, I
Speaker 1: don't have anything to off to this patient. And she
Speaker 1: had worked with somebody earlier who had done a lot
Speaker 1: of holistic functional medicine, and we were bringing that into
Speaker 1: the practice and I saw more and more there was
Speaker 1: a use for that as well.
Speaker 2: Interesting would you say, usually we're gonna talk about your practice,
Speaker 2: your specific techniques protocol for allergies, but would you say
Speaker 2: you're getting pushed back from the pharmaceuticals because that's that's
Speaker 2: a drug protocol, which is like we want the quick fix, yeah,
Speaker 2: and we're shutting the immunity immune system down.
Speaker 1: Yeah. That's an interesting question because you know what I said.
Speaker 1: For a long time, you know, back in the day,
Speaker 1: it was a little bit uncomfortable and probably in my
Speaker 1: more early years class Clougy the drug companies again, the
Speaker 1: way they used to do it. They had a rep
Speaker 1: coming to your office every week. They were bringing you
Speaker 1: launch and this and that to and I was very
Speaker 1: uncomfortable with that. Not only that too. Where I ended
Speaker 1: up finding out too is they're basically tracking you your descriptions.
Speaker 1: That's why they're coming. They would go to local pharmacies.
Speaker 1: They say, oh, doctor Mitchell's writing for a lot of
Speaker 1: this medicine or that medicine. We got to either get
Speaker 1: him to write more or whatever. And I wanted nothing
Speaker 1: to do with that. So as we move more and
Speaker 1: more into the holistic and functional part of my practice
Speaker 1: and the sublingual drops, which we'll talk about, they stopped
Speaker 1: coming around. I was like out of their sphere, which
Speaker 1: was fired with me. I didn't need them bring in
Speaker 1: me a lunch I could buy. I could buy my
Speaker 1: own lunch.
Speaker 2: That's I mean, that's kind of interesting you say that,
Speaker 2: because I've always had the impression that you're almost required
Speaker 2: to submit prescription drugs to, you know, your patients. But
Speaker 2: I guess if you're not working in a clinic or
Speaker 2: a hospital system like I'm in the Kaiser system here
Speaker 2: in California, perhaps it's different. On your own. You don't
Speaker 2: have to be pressured into that.
Speaker 1: It's not just that too. Again, what was so surprising
Speaker 1: to me because I had no clue about this that
Speaker 1: you know, honestly, like pharmacies made money by selling the
Speaker 1: lists of the doctors that wrote prescriptions, not what patients' names,
Speaker 1: but they were getting data and said, you know, like,
Speaker 1: I was taken back once when a drug rep came
Speaker 1: in and I can't remember it was about an antibiotic
Speaker 1: or something. Go, you're Docticchell, Can you tell us why
Speaker 1: you're not writing for this? It's like, how do you
Speaker 1: know what I'm writing for? That bothered me And I
Speaker 1: might have said, well, I don't write fricks. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's effective, but I think, you know, it's not
Speaker 1: the best choice for my patients. And they wouldn't come back,
Speaker 1: which was fine, and I think it was my first
Speaker 1: taste of like I'd rather be independent than beholden.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good for you. Hey, let's talk about allergies. What
Speaker 2: is an allergy? Why do people are they affected by
Speaker 2: an allergic reaction?
Speaker 1: Yeah? You know, allergies are basically our immune system getting
Speaker 1: inflamed and triggered during a reaction that typically we wouldn't
Speaker 1: think the body has to react against. And there's some
Speaker 1: funny stories I could quickly get in, but you know,
Speaker 1: so again, typically in a bad poling season, whether it's
Speaker 1: in northern California or here on the East coast. You know,
Speaker 1: when the three pounds really hard, patients really suffer. I've
Speaker 1: seen people over the years, they go out, they want
Speaker 1: to go to the park, they like to play golf,
Speaker 1: and they're sneezing and they're trouble breathing and they're just
Speaker 1: really uncomfortable. They're fatigued. So essentially this is where from
Speaker 1: repeated exposure, the body develops an allergy, so that upon
Speaker 1: exposure to that environmental trigger, it releases testamine all the
Speaker 1: things that we are. You know, people hear about that's
Speaker 1: what they take anti the histamines, and they're uncomfortable. And
Speaker 1: the funny thing is, this is the kind of a
Speaker 1: funny story I read once and I think people somebody's like,
Speaker 1: why are people of liters to cats? For example, right
Speaker 1: streams a cat in the who should be allergic to
Speaker 1: a cat?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: I was reading on a very funny story in one
Speaker 1: of my articles that there was a story about a
Speaker 1: zoo keeper, okay, at one of the major zoos, and
Speaker 1: when he used to go in lucky him go in
Speaker 1: and clean the lion's cage. He used to sneeze and
Speaker 1: he used to have trouble breathing, and you know he
Speaker 1: realized he had to take medication. He went to see
Speaker 1: a dot And when you went to see analogy doctor,
Speaker 1: they tested him and lower behold, what was he very
Speaker 1: allergic to? They don't have a lion test. He was
Speaker 1: allergic to cats. You know, it's all along that feline line.
Speaker 1: So what I started where I smiled when I heard
Speaker 1: the story, was I guess it made sense back in evolution.
Speaker 1: You know, if somebody had a really good sniffer and
Speaker 1: start to itch or sneeze, if there was a lion
Speaker 1: or tiger close by, probably had an evolutionary benefit. But
Speaker 1: that benefit has left, and instead of people being miserable,
Speaker 1: like I just had a patient earlier today who's coming
Speaker 1: in to get sublingual drops for catalogy because he can't
Speaker 1: visit any of his friends, he actually liked to get
Speaker 1: a cat and I'll be able to do it by
Speaker 1: treating him.
Speaker 2: So are you saying that somebody who's allergic to say,
Speaker 2: ragweed is, has been overexposed to it and the body's
Speaker 2: just overwhelmed by the immune system cannot normally react. So
Speaker 2: what's going is trying to push it off through mucus
Speaker 2: and sneezing.
Speaker 1: And yes, yes, you know again, one of my really
Speaker 1: good teachers at Columbia really brilliant allogists. Also he was dermatologists.
Speaker 1: He used to say, you never allerged something, usually the
Speaker 1: first time you're exposed, which is a very important thing
Speaker 1: because so many patients are surprised, like even especially with
Speaker 1: food alogy. They're like, I can't understand this. I had
Speaker 1: shrimped a hundred times before. I was in the restaurant
Speaker 1: and I broke out in hives and I couldn't breathe,
Speaker 1: and now they're coming I'm allergic. So it is from
Speaker 1: repeated exposure. That's how the immune system and these things
Speaker 1: called mass cells, they have receptors on them and occasionally
Speaker 1: when you constantly are re exposed to something, it can
Speaker 1: triggor those cells to release histamine and other allergic chemicals.
Speaker 2: That's amazing. Now, the real serious reaction is asthma, and
Speaker 2: that can kill people. And we know childhood asthma is
Speaker 2: preva is apparently growing. What is asthma and why is
Speaker 2: it such a devastating issue.
Speaker 1: Well, asthma can be too many different causes, but the
Speaker 1: main cause probably over seventy eighty percent of the time,
Speaker 1: it is allergic. So what you're exposed to in your
Speaker 1: environment matters. A lot of studies have shown that sometimes
Speaker 1: children that grow up in homes where there's a lot
Speaker 1: of what's called dust might exposure that's an indoor allergen
Speaker 1: or unfortunately, cockroach exposure, which nobody likes to think of.
Speaker 1: And you know, we sometimes called insectology because nobody likes
Speaker 1: to know their cockrop trilogy. But you could also be
Speaker 1: in some of the fanciest buildings in New York that
Speaker 1: are old, and it's in the air duct systems, and
Speaker 1: when these things get ventilated into the air, they are
Speaker 1: very strong causes of an allergic reaction. And the lungs
Speaker 1: is just one area where it could hit, and that
Speaker 1: causes the tissue and the lungs to spasm, and that's
Speaker 1: what gives kids broncospasm or asthma.
Speaker 2: Wow, you know it's funny. I was reading your book
Speaker 2: and you say there's a lot of contributing factors, including
Speaker 2: global warming, air pollution, and I'm just curious, give us
Speaker 2: a definition of how global warming is increasing this.
Speaker 1: Alergyen Yeah, I'll give you two nice examples. I hope
Speaker 1: that okay. So regarding that question, the studies are showing
Speaker 1: that with the increase in global warming, there's more carbon
Speaker 1: dioxide being given off by the plant substances, which is
Speaker 1: increasing the polem counts. So you're just getting more and
Speaker 1: more exposure. The other thing just regarded to pollution, it's
Speaker 1: very interesting, you know. They find that asthma understandably is
Speaker 1: more prevalent in a lot of times in inner cities
Speaker 1: and areas where there's more pollution. And a study that
Speaker 1: I found to be very interesting was there was one
Speaker 1: year that there was the Summer Olympics in Atlanta, and
Speaker 1: I guess somebody in the medical community was doing a
Speaker 1: study and they found that the amount of asthma attacks
Speaker 1: actually went down that summer and it was because of
Speaker 1: the Summer Olympics. They had blocked off the areas there
Speaker 1: was much less traffic, oh, right, was less. It's really
Speaker 1: interesting how it really is hard sometimes to escape your environment.
Speaker 2: We're going to take a short commercial break to allow
Speaker 2: our sponsors to identify themselves, and will return short with
Speaker 2: my guest today, doctor Dean Mitchell, discussing his book on
Speaker 2: allergies called Allergy and Asthma Solution. Will be right back.
Speaker 2: My guest today is Dean Mitchell. He is a alogist
Speaker 2: and specializes in chronic allergies and asthma. He's written a
Speaker 2: book called Allergy and Asthma Solutions. This is a new
Speaker 2: remedy that is less invasive and much easier on the
Speaker 2: immune system than drugs. I want you to talk a
Speaker 2: little bit about heredity, which I was curious about and
Speaker 2: just was thinking it does make sense if your previous
Speaker 2: generations were in fields of poppies or in out in
Speaker 2: the environment, you could maybe hand an allergy conditioned down right?
Speaker 2: Is that what you're suggesting by give some specifics on that,
Speaker 2: would you?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Sure, I mean, look, they basically say this is interesting.
Speaker 1: If one parent is allergic, their child is a twenty
Speaker 1: five percent chance of being. Really, if two parents are allergic,
Speaker 1: it goes up to forty or fifty percent. So genetics
Speaker 1: play a role. I always tell my patience, and I
Speaker 1: know from personal experience, actually a story that you can't
Speaker 1: really run away from your genetics. You can change your environment,
Speaker 1: but you can't run away from your genetics. So honestly,
Speaker 1: they'll come up with all these future DNA testing of
Speaker 1: your body and everything too. But you know, just talk
Speaker 1: to your parents, like for example, my mom, I have
Speaker 1: a lot of things that she developed over time. So
Speaker 1: whenever I'm starting to get something, Mom, did you get that?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I had that. Don't worry, you know, do
Speaker 1: this and then'll take care of itself. So if you
Speaker 1: can know your family history, it's very helpful. And I
Speaker 1: do see this, of course, and that's why I think
Speaker 1: I was telling you earlier. I like the field that
Speaker 1: I do because I tend to take care of families.
Speaker 1: It's not just And what's the funniest thing though, to me,
Speaker 1: is that over the years, what I've noticed that a
Speaker 1: lot of times a parent will bring into the child's
Speaker 1: got really bad allergies, and I treat them and they
Speaker 1: get better, and then the parents come to me as patients.
Speaker 1: I said, oh, you had your children as the guinea pig.
Speaker 1: You want to see if they got better first before
Speaker 1: you take care of yourself.
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen or is there a documented cases
Speaker 2: where somebody, a grandparent or perhaps a known relative, had
Speaker 2: asthma and handed that down. Is that because that seems
Speaker 2: like a really Oh absolutely, that's an extreme reaction though,
Speaker 2: I mean, that's like, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Mean again, you know again, having in the genetic susceptibility
Speaker 1: puts you at a little risk, but against somebody's environment.
Speaker 1: You know, if you know Grandpa worked in a dusty,
Speaker 1: moldy building, you know he's going to have more likely
Speaker 1: And if he was a smoker, he was more likely
Speaker 1: he was going to have chronic asthma. Right, if his
Speaker 1: granddaughter or grandson has the genetic susceptibility. But maybe he
Speaker 1: lives in a really clean environment. He gets a lot
Speaker 1: of fresh air, he's not playing ball a lot, didn't
Speaker 1: have to work with the coal mines. He might have
Speaker 1: a better chance of not having much of an issue.
Speaker 2: Interesting, all right, so you have a reaction, you're sneezing
Speaker 2: your coffee, you're having trouble breathing. You visit your doctor
Speaker 2: and he takes a blood test. What does the blood
Speaker 2: test reveal regarding the causation?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I like to think of myself as a
Speaker 1: medical detective. You know, That's why I went into the
Speaker 1: field of allergy, and I want to know the cause because,
Speaker 1: as you are alluding to, you know, you could go
Speaker 1: to any doctor, general doctor, you're pediatrician, and when you're
Speaker 1: having an asthm attack, they're going to give you a
Speaker 1: prescription for ourn Hailer's if you have an analogy attacked
Speaker 1: just in the nose, they may give you antihistamines or
Speaker 1: nasal sprays, but that's not going to cure the problem.
Speaker 1: That's a little bit of a band aid. So what
Speaker 1: I try to find out is what is the underlying trigger.
Speaker 1: If I find out that somebody has a petted home,
Speaker 1: a cata dog, and even though they love them, that
Speaker 1: they're allergic, we'll deal with it, but we got to
Speaker 1: treat them. You know the same thing too, if a
Speaker 1: person is allergic to mold or dust min it's another
Speaker 1: indoor fairly hard to avoid allergen. Then we need to
Speaker 1: know because otherwise, if you keep on exposing yourself over
Speaker 1: and over again, it's like swimming against the time.
Speaker 2: Right right now, in your book, you have what I
Speaker 2: found is called an allergy score, and talk a little
Speaker 2: bit about that, because that can go from very mild
Speaker 2: reactions to very severe, and that's an important gauge on
Speaker 2: just how problematic your your allergy is. So talk a
Speaker 2: bit about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that actually refers to to the asthma score.
Speaker 1: There was actually it was come up by the academicians
Speaker 1: to give people with asthma, a better idea of the
Speaker 1: severity of their asthma, because there are different levels of
Speaker 1: treatments that people require. You know, not everybody needs to
Speaker 1: take medication every day, you know, depending on how frequent
Speaker 1: their symptoms are. Other people that have chronic symptoms do
Speaker 1: need to. So the score was basically to try to
Speaker 1: help people get an idea where they fall on their
Speaker 1: level of asthma.
Speaker 2: Okay, and yeah, so that's important to have. Okay, So
Speaker 2: the typical allopathic reaction, and we're going to get into
Speaker 2: the unique holistic approach that you take when you go
Speaker 2: to a doctor or even an allergist in a corporate
Speaker 2: medical environment or anybody typically what are they going to
Speaker 2: do in terms of a treatment. I'm talking about antihistamines
Speaker 2: and also in the worst case, steroids.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So yes, so you go to your conventional allopathic doctor,
Speaker 1: as I said, pediatrician GP, to go to Urging Caroll,
Speaker 1: like a lot of people do today. They're going to
Speaker 1: try to understandably control the situation. They want to give
Speaker 1: you some relief. They're not really I think looking at
Speaker 1: the long term view of this, that's not maybe there
Speaker 1: some cases, their job or what they see is their job.
Speaker 1: So they're going to prescribe well mostly anti history is
Speaker 1: there overly counted now, but they'll probably recommend that, I mean,
Speaker 1: you might have been on them already. They may recommend
Speaker 1: nasal steroids, which tend to be safe, but again I
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to use it long term. That's not really
Speaker 1: a solution. And for as when they're going to prescribe inhalers,
Speaker 1: you know, things that open up the lungs called broncho
Speaker 1: dilators and possibly included in that inhaled steroids again, which
Speaker 1: are safer than oral steroids, but again not totally safe
Speaker 1: if you're going to be using them ongoing. So I
Speaker 1: try to make the example they're kind of like the
Speaker 1: stop gap or it's the band aid therapy, which is
Speaker 1: in the acute situation. But any patient that's having recurrent symptoms
Speaker 1: I think should really take the long view approach and
Speaker 1: find out what is causing the issue, how do they
Speaker 1: prevent it and reduce their need for medications?
Speaker 2: And why are medications a problem? Why are they and
Speaker 2: how does the body react to continual use of say steroids,
Speaker 2: I mean, because just give us the fundamentals.
Speaker 1: On it, well, medications as we all know. I mean
Speaker 1: they do one beneficial thing, but sometimes they do another
Speaker 1: negative thing. And antihistamy is tend to be one of
Speaker 1: the safer medications, but like anything used long term, you know,
Speaker 1: they tries out the bodies, you know, hydration status. I
Speaker 1: always warn patients that take antisamis please, especially if you're
Speaker 1: in a hot weather area. You have to drink more
Speaker 1: than you would think. Oh, there are some concerns about
Speaker 1: how it affects cognition because some of them do our sedating.
Speaker 1: I also am very careful to one patient not to
Speaker 1: use those combination antihistamy decongestants. Those cause a lot of problems.
Speaker 1: And those are also over the counter, like the well
Speaker 1: I hear to use the names, but like loluraditine D
Speaker 1: or you know, promote Beneffectsadine D the D is decongestant
Speaker 1: and that's a stimulant and that can keep you awake,
Speaker 1: it can give insomnia. I've seen a lot of young
Speaker 1: patients that blood pressure will go up with the heart
Speaker 1: will go up because they're using it continuously because they think, oh,
Speaker 1: you know it works today, why should I take it
Speaker 1: every day? And you know, medicines have side effects. And
Speaker 1: of course quotic a steroids have side effects. I mean
Speaker 1: again most doctors, if the patients are aware, you don't
Speaker 1: want to be on those long term. I mean, it
Speaker 1: affects your blood sugar, your blood pressure, your weight, mood.
Speaker 1: And the way the pharmaceutical companies just try to get
Speaker 1: around it is by making it topical, by inhaling it
Speaker 1: or using a nasal spray, which is causes less of
Speaker 1: the side effects. But honestly, if you look carefully over
Speaker 1: time cumulatively, it can cause problems like people that use
Speaker 1: like nasal steroids can get increased eye pressure or glacoma. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you got it. I mean I always take the view.
Speaker 1: I mean that's the holistic side. I mean like, yes,
Speaker 1: I'll do with the stop gap whatever I need to do,
Speaker 1: but what is the long range plan to keep my
Speaker 1: patient healthy?
Speaker 2: Yeah, before we get into this unique therapy that you
Speaker 2: prescribe and have been recommending, is there a way holistically
Speaker 2: to reduce your reactionary symptoms of allergies prior to any
Speaker 2: medication or is that just the way it is? You
Speaker 2: just because you're you know you're you're predisposed to allergetic reactions.
Speaker 1: The solution which I think most people don't like is avoidance,
Speaker 1: and sometimes that's not even a practical solution. Like you know, again,
Speaker 1: I have people that are lernt the dust mites, and
Speaker 1: I tell them, okay, do do the home environmental control
Speaker 1: in case your mattresses, your pil cases, that's where a
Speaker 1: lot of dust mites are. But it doesn't help when
Speaker 1: you go to a friend's house that houses really dusty.
Speaker 1: It doesn't help when you get in an airplane. Those
Speaker 1: places are you know, where it has the wall to
Speaker 1: wall carpeting and stuff that those are full of dust smites.
Speaker 1: When you go sometimes even a fancy hotel, it's full
Speaker 1: of dust smites. So my patients again are coming to
Speaker 1: me because they're also a little bit trapped and they
Speaker 1: have unavoidable exposure to the alergians. And they don't want
Speaker 1: to live in a bubble. They don't want to be
Speaker 1: restricted to their home, and you know, they need to
Speaker 1: be able to move around freely.
Speaker 2: Wow, all right, let's talk about the revolution sublingual allergy
Speaker 2: IMUO therapy or otherwise known as allergy drops. Talk about
Speaker 2: how you found it, yeah, and how you began incorporating
Speaker 2: and it is funny. Okay, go ahead because you don't
Speaker 2: describe it with great detail in the book what it
Speaker 2: actually is. But I want to, okay, I want to
Speaker 2: hear about it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to incorporate a lot of things because
Speaker 1: it is a lot of things. You know. It's funny.
Speaker 1: When I went into allergy again back in the early
Speaker 1: nineteen nineties, the treatment I was doing in the clinic
Speaker 1: where I trained was giving alergie shots every week. Now. Yeah, now,
Speaker 1: but what's interesting is that allergy shots have been around
Speaker 1: for about one hundred years.
Speaker 2: One hundred years.
Speaker 1: That's a long time. And what I always laugh about
Speaker 1: when I present to new doctors and to patients about
Speaker 1: the drops, because a lot of the most people used
Speaker 1: to always say to me, especially back when I published
Speaker 1: the book, like I never heard of this. How come
Speaker 1: I never heard of this? Why are you the only
Speaker 1: one doing it? And I said, you know, we're up
Speaker 1: against a lot of factors. I said, On one hand,
Speaker 1: the famous line by Max Plank is that medicine advances
Speaker 1: one funeral at a time. That's funny. I threw this
Speaker 1: out to the to my medical students, and they said,
Speaker 1: they said something really funny. I laughed. They said, oh,
Speaker 1: you mean like doctors learning when somebody died, it's like
Speaker 1: what to do? I said, no, No, What it means
Speaker 1: is that things don't change in medicine until the older
Speaker 1: generation dies out because they hold on to what they
Speaker 1: did forever. It's something new and maybe better. And so
Speaker 1: I was always perplexed why algae had not changed in
Speaker 1: a hundred years. I mean every other field of medicine.
Speaker 1: If you took a doctor from the nineteen thirties or
Speaker 1: forties and compare them to a doctor too and twenties,
Speaker 1: their practice would look very different. But not analogy. I
Speaker 1: mean again, seriously, they could an analogist in nineteen forty
Speaker 1: could go to sleep like Van Winkle, wake up in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty and he would miss a beat. You know,
Speaker 1: he'd be back to by what he said. That doesn't
Speaker 1: seem right. So I was, you know, one of again
Speaker 1: the people in the forefront thing doing blood testing for allergies,
Speaker 1: which is very accurate. And then again I found out
Speaker 1: about the sublingual drops. I thought it was the perfect
Speaker 1: solution to rebalancing the immune system naturally and safely. Because
Speaker 1: we're doing in the in the medication, in the treatment
Speaker 1: that we use. It's a basically taking the natural allergens
Speaker 1: in the environment, the red weed, the treatpollen, diluting it
Speaker 1: down to very safe levels, and then slowly giving to
Speaker 1: the patient with drops under the tongue to build up
Speaker 1: their own protective antibodies.
Speaker 2: Okay, stop you for a minute. It sounds it sounds
Speaker 2: just like homeopathy to me.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, this is the thing. I am not
Speaker 1: by any means and expert in homeopathy. But the one
Speaker 1: thing I do, you know and holdmeopaty, which finds very fascinating,
Speaker 1: is like treating like well.
Speaker 2: It's little bits of poison. You give a little bit
Speaker 2: of No, we're not giving.
Speaker 1: A poison though. But the thing you're right about that,
Speaker 1: and I think that's you know, there's other areas of
Speaker 1: medicine they're looking at this. It's fascinating that if you
Speaker 1: get and the other analogy I like to use with patients,
Speaker 1: it's different, but it helps them comprehend it. I try
Speaker 1: to tell them. In doing the allergy drops, the immune therapy,
Speaker 1: it's a little bit like working out. It's like working
Speaker 1: out your immune system. And if I was your trainer
Speaker 1: and you came to me, I wouldn't give you a
Speaker 1: two hundred pound weight and say okay and bench press it.
Speaker 1: You know, I would start you with the five and
Speaker 1: the ten pound weights and get you stronger and stronger
Speaker 1: to you are ready for that heavier weight. Well, that's
Speaker 1: what we do with the drops. We start out very
Speaker 1: light doses, small doses. You do it every day, but
Speaker 1: it's simple, and then you eventually get to very high
Speaker 1: doses so that when you're exposed to the pollen, you're
Speaker 1: exposed to that cat or you're exposed to that food,
Speaker 1: and you don't have a bad reaction.
Speaker 2: So you you do it as a preventative. Every day
Speaker 2: you have a drop or two and before you go
Speaker 2: out in the in the environment.
Speaker 1: Well, you just do it every day regularly. It's like
Speaker 1: brushing your teeth. It's a couple of drops. I tell people,
Speaker 1: leave it by your toothbrush, do your few drops under
Speaker 1: your tongue. And again this is the beauty of it.
Speaker 1: You know, this is another funny story, but you know
Speaker 1: with allergy injections, it's usually given once a week, right
Speaker 1: to truly desensitize somebody. It's like working out. It's good
Speaker 1: to do it every day. And I was once at
Speaker 1: a meeting once and this this is too funny. The
Speaker 1: one of the doctors went up there who knew the
Speaker 1: history of allergy, and he says, do you know why
Speaker 1: alergae shots are given once a week? And all the
Speaker 1: doctors in the audience, the alogies like turn through each other. Well,
Speaker 1: we don't know why because the original clinic in England
Speaker 1: that gave allergie shots was only open once a week.
Speaker 1: So there, so those the only reason. People, you know,
Speaker 1: like I said, if things don't change, they just somebody
Speaker 1: did it this way, it keeps on going.
Speaker 2: We're going to take a short commercial break to a
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Speaker 2: shortly with my guests today, Doctor Dean Mitchell, discussing his
Speaker 2: research and work with allergies and asthma, will be right back.
Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but I used to have
Speaker 2: horrible hay fever as a kid, and I did what
Speaker 2: most people do is just to use an a histamines
Speaker 2: nose sprays, and I don't know. They weren't great, they
Speaker 2: didn't feel great, but they worked, but it's not really
Speaker 2: a great solution. And doctor Mitchell's remedies today are much
Speaker 2: easier on the immune system. And appear to have better
Speaker 2: long term effects. Okay, so continue on with the allergy drops.
Speaker 2: So obviously you're seeing individuals you're not. I mean it's
Speaker 2: not you don't pull a medicine off the shelf.
Speaker 1: Correct. Each is mixed specifically for that individual. That's one
Speaker 1: hundred percent correct. That's why it's so special and targeted.
Speaker 1: If somebody comes to me and there's allergic to tree
Speaker 1: grass and ragweed and maybe cats, that can get the
Speaker 1: whole mixture in the bottle, But I'm not giving them dustmites, moles,
Speaker 1: whatever to there's no point to that. You're targeting based
Speaker 1: on the testing, what the person is allergic to.
Speaker 2: Who is who is mixing the formula.
Speaker 1: That's a good question too. So in some places there
Speaker 1: are specialized pharmacies that are doing it. I have my
Speaker 1: own laboratory in my office where you know, we make
Speaker 1: up the drops. Again, it's really nice. It's really like
Speaker 1: a soup to nuts thing. Like I've interviewed the patient,
Speaker 1: I know their history, I have their test results, I
Speaker 1: match up everything, and then we make up the drops
Speaker 1: for them.
Speaker 2: Okay, are they Is it in an alcohol solution?
Speaker 1: No, it's in glycerin, which substerine. So it it Actually
Speaker 1: I tell patients all the time because they get concerned
Speaker 1: to go what does it taste like? It actually tastes
Speaker 1: a little sweet, because glitcierin actually has a little bit
Speaker 1: of a sweet taste. But it's not sugar. It's actually
Speaker 1: a pat But it doesn't make you bad.
Speaker 2: I have to just think about this. If I had
Speaker 2: a child who has severe bronchi or not broadcast but asthma. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and they are being triggered by just walking and you
Speaker 2: know in the big city or whatever because of the pollution.
Speaker 2: You're suggesting to the parents that they take increased drops
Speaker 2: like one a day, two a day, three a day.
Speaker 2: Talk about the protocol.
Speaker 1: That's actually a really important thing that you brought up.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even thought to mention it today. You know.
Speaker 1: One of the things that we've learned a lot in
Speaker 1: allergy to is something called the allergic march. And what
Speaker 1: that means is that a lot of times young infants
Speaker 1: and young children can present with different kind of allergies.
Speaker 1: You know, for example, food allergies, or they have exama
Speaker 1: of the allergic skin reactions and some pollen allergies, and
Speaker 1: if they are not treated at a young age, they
Speaker 1: can go on to develop more chronic allergic symptoms in
Speaker 1: their twenties, thirties and later in life, like with sinuses
Speaker 1: and asthma. So that's one of the indications and reasons
Speaker 1: to treat. When we get sometimes the children early, we're
Speaker 1: trying to again rebalance their immune system so it's not
Speaker 1: tilting toward the allergic inflammation sign.
Speaker 2: Okay, how are the drops helping the immune system reduce
Speaker 2: the reaction.
Speaker 1: To the Now we're getting to something some very intense immunology.
Speaker 1: So to try to make it simple, the cells in
Speaker 1: the body are the way the cells activate as usually
Speaker 1: what they call two states. There's the cells in the
Speaker 1: body that react to infections. There's the cells in the
Speaker 1: body that whatever reason react to toxins and in grouped
Speaker 1: in that are allergens, even though obviously allergens are not toxins,
Speaker 1: but our bodies system, which is can remembery, it's based
Speaker 1: on a primitive immune system. You know. Again, I'm doing
Speaker 1: another book after the one that's coming out in October,
Speaker 1: where i've'll be talking about how why some of the
Speaker 1: cells are our body called mass cells. Were are you
Speaker 1: have them? Because they not only help us heal when
Speaker 1: we get cuts. They have different kinds of enzymes to
Speaker 1: protect us against like snake toxins and venoms and wasps things,
Speaker 1: you know, things that again we don't worry about too
Speaker 1: much anymore. But our immune system was built that way, right,
Speaker 1: so you know again it's so if you think about
Speaker 1: our immune system again in the simplistic terms, it's got
Speaker 1: those two states. We have our mute system that gets
Speaker 1: ready to fight infections like covid and other viruses, and
Speaker 1: we have o immune system that's ready for allergies and
Speaker 1: you know, toxins. And what happens is when the infection part,
Speaker 1: believe that is quiescent the in certain patients, again, depending
Speaker 1: on a little bit of genetic predisposition, the allergic component
Speaker 1: is ready to pounce and sometimes you.
Speaker 2: Know more than it should. Wow, I hope. I'm not
Speaker 2: going to throw a curve at you. And you have
Speaker 2: two great case studies in the back of your book
Speaker 2: of patients who are introduced to the product. The solution.
Speaker 2: One is a guy named a kid named Josh who's fourteen,
Speaker 2: who's a soccer player. Could you remember that case or.
Speaker 1: Oh, you're gonna have to have to pick my memory.
Speaker 1: I've had so many cases. Okay, tell me, I'll I'll
Speaker 1: paly come back to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. How about Jeff the forty three year
Speaker 2: old pharma pharmacists who had asthma.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh yeah, so that okay, that was a I'll
Speaker 1: try to do this quickly. That was a good story.
Speaker 1: I knew, actually knew Jeff personally. He was a pharmacist
Speaker 1: in our area. Really athletic, healthy guy, right yeah, very
Speaker 1: you know, love tennis and sports and and everything. And
Speaker 1: he came to me, you know, I remember coming in
Speaker 1: and making an appointment, coming see my office. He looked
Speaker 1: very downtrodden. He was getting asthma all the time, which
Speaker 1: he hadn't had since his early teens. He was just fatigued.
Speaker 1: He you know, he went to a couple of the
Speaker 1: other internets and specialists in the town and they just
Speaker 1: gave him more more medicine. He was actually on a
Speaker 1: lot of courtizone. He actually gained like fifteen or twenty pounds.
Speaker 1: And this is guys, they said, very athletic, you know,
Speaker 1: great basketball player even in his forties. And so I
Speaker 1: was getting my history on him, and it turns out
Speaker 1: what was the new thing was a cat in their home.
Speaker 1: Apparently his wife loved this kitten and brought her into
Speaker 1: the house and now in the house, into his bedroom.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, he started to realize because I think it's
Speaker 1: the cat. But she doesn't believe me. She thinks I'm
Speaker 1: making this up. This is not an unusual story. I
Speaker 1: have a lot of these stories. But there's a lot
Speaker 1: of tension in families and marriages because of the pet.
Speaker 1: And I tested him and sure enough, he was highly
Speaker 1: allergic to cat dander. Though this is again this is
Speaker 1: the other I don't know if very included this in
Speaker 1: the bay dead. So he comes back. We discussed the
Speaker 1: the test results, but he doesn't come alone. His wife
Speaker 1: comes also and she wanted to hear it firsthand. So
Speaker 1: I'm explaining to him. I showed him the results, and
Speaker 1: so I said, look, your decisions are and obviously maybe
Speaker 1: the best decision is to get rid of the cat
Speaker 1: or we have to do the you know, nere therapy.
Speaker 1: And so they're looking at him and the husband, you know,
Speaker 1: Jeff doesn't really you don't want to do the therapy.
Speaker 1: He wants to get rid of the cat. The wife
Speaker 1: looks at him and like, no cat stays. So Jeff
Speaker 1: got the therapy and he got better, and then we
Speaker 1: were able to get most medications he did.
Speaker 2: Really Well, that's a good story off the top of
Speaker 2: your head. Do you have a pediatric h you know,
Speaker 2: story that you can provide us that is kind of
Speaker 2: a a hint of before and after the allergy drops.
Speaker 1: Well, if I can, I want to just bring up
Speaker 1: because I think it's so important. I'm so excited about
Speaker 1: the work that I'm doing now with the allergy drops
Speaker 1: for the food allergies, which as I mentioned, is probably
Speaker 1: the most dangerous type of biology that we face.
Speaker 2: Well, that's fantastic. That's a good transition because that's what
Speaker 2: my next question was, is it doesn't look like there's
Speaker 2: a cure for food allergies at all, and people are
Speaker 2: reacting poorly to like shellfish or like you said, peanut
Speaker 2: it was another one. Yeah, talk about that.
Speaker 1: So there have been some really big changes in food
Speaker 1: allergy treatment, which for decades it was nothing. What we
Speaker 1: told patients was to avoid the food you're larger to.
Speaker 1: But good luck, you know, it's again most of these
Speaker 1: patients that had bad reactions, it was all accidental exposures.
Speaker 1: So there are three new treatments now for food alergies,
Speaker 1: I just I'll just mention them quirkly. Some of them
Speaker 1: might do something I don't do. The first one at
Speaker 1: which I don't do, is called oral algaemotherapy, which is
Speaker 1: essentially like powders, which some doctors that are specialized in
Speaker 1: this make up these powders, whether it's peanut or milk,
Speaker 1: whatever the patients allergic to, and they desensitize them. It's
Speaker 1: a very intense process. Those patients have to be in
Speaker 1: the office for some of these hours. It's typically done
Speaker 1: with very young children. But the goal is to enable
Speaker 1: the children to eat those foods, which is a big win,
Speaker 1: and I know some specialists that are doing it. But again,
Speaker 1: as I really have to caution it, it's not the
Speaker 1: safest procedure, but it does work. The next thing which
Speaker 1: I do is called the sublingual drops. With these food allergies,
Speaker 1: my goal is a little bit different. Desensitize the patient
Speaker 1: with these drops. It's at a lower level, but it's
Speaker 1: very safe. The patients can do it at home, and
Speaker 1: the goal in my case working with these patients is
Speaker 1: to decedence ties them enough so that an accidental exposure
Speaker 1: won't put them in harm's way, so they have to
Speaker 1: end up in the emergency room will god phibility or reaction.
Speaker 1: The third thing that's available, which has its also pros
Speaker 1: and cons is an injection called Zolair, which is usually
Speaker 1: given once a month. It's one of these new monoclonal antibodies.
Speaker 1: It's been shown to again raise the threshold for having
Speaker 1: a bad allergic reaction. But again it's not a definitive
Speaker 1: treatment as the drops or the oral therapy is, because
Speaker 1: once you stop them, the benefit goes away. Last thing
Speaker 1: I just got to throw in two, which is so
Speaker 1: important I want it to be under underacknowledged, is that
Speaker 1: what's really exciting is that there's a new type of
Speaker 1: epiceph bring that children and adults can have now. It's
Speaker 1: called the Nephie. It's a spray. So all these kids
Speaker 1: have walked around with EpiPens to treat an alert reaction
Speaker 1: can now use a nasal spray that does the same thing.
Speaker 1: And I think this is going to be a game
Speaker 1: changer because so many kids are afraid to give themselves
Speaker 1: a shot. They always they find out they're having a
Speaker 1: load reaction. They don't have it on them because I
Speaker 1: think there's that subconscious they don't want to be carrying
Speaker 1: around this you know, automatic needle.
Speaker 2: So that's that's a solution over an EpiPen.
Speaker 1: I guess correct, right, This is been a cute reaction
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, amazing, amazing, amazing, amazing. So what would you say
Speaker 2: the number of clinicians in the United States who are
Speaker 2: using the allergy drops? Is it a few people? Is
Speaker 2: it a growing number?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So two categories. The I am fortunate to be
Speaker 1: the medical consultant for a comany called MRS Allergy and
Speaker 1: they have are connected with four to five hundred clinics
Speaker 1: around the Knights that operate allergy testing and treatment. And
Speaker 1: one of those treatments is the sublingual drops, which I
Speaker 1: help consult on. So wherever you are in the country,
Speaker 1: hopefully you can find a practitioner. So they go to
Speaker 1: is it mrs dot com to find that mrs dot
Speaker 1: com to find a physician in your area who is
Speaker 1: providing allergy drops? Okay, excellent, right, And that's one source.
Speaker 1: Is there any other sources that might be available, say
Speaker 1: at a Google search? I think so. I think that
Speaker 1: if you go into Google or check at CVTINA, which
Speaker 1: is very good, and you put in I would like
Speaker 1: a sublingual allergy specialist for environmental allergens or foods. I
Speaker 1: think the searches aren't quite good at coming up with
Speaker 1: people that have experience in doing this kind of work.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I wanted to ask you real quickly,
Speaker 2: how successful is this new therapy for food allergies?
Speaker 1: A good question. I've been very excited myself, you know.
Speaker 1: I the patients I've been treating knock Wood, not one
Speaker 1: has had a dangerous food algae reaction, and I know
Speaker 1: some of them have had accidental, you know, ingestions. And
Speaker 1: I'm actually doing now with very sophisticated blood tests called
Speaker 1: the basic palactivation test, which is giving us some better
Speaker 1: insight into how protected these patients are. So and the
Speaker 1: studies done by your doctor Edwin Kimmitt, who's now in
Speaker 1: North Carolina. He's probably one of the leading researchers in
Speaker 1: this field. I mean, he has shown in his studies
Speaker 1: that you know, kids, for example, young children with peanut allergy,
Speaker 1: after they did like the three years of of the
Speaker 1: peanut allergy drops, they could tolerate in some cases up
Speaker 1: to seven or nine peanuts.
Speaker 2: What is the most lethal reaction? Obviously you could throw
Speaker 2: closes up and.
Speaker 1: Pull that apalaxus, right, and when you're unfortunately, the whole
Speaker 1: body is discharging this histamine. And besides getting what we
Speaker 1: call erdicarria their hives, you can get the ringo spasm
Speaker 1: you know, where your you know, your airways shuts down,
Speaker 1: and also hypotension where your blood pressure drops to dangerous levels.
Speaker 2: Those and that's where you've got to have an EPI pin.
Speaker 1: Right. Oh, yeah, you know you got to really moved quickly.
Speaker 2: But what what are some of the I mean I've
Speaker 2: heard of. I think it's shellfish is one that's really
Speaker 2: really bad. But what are some of the ones that
Speaker 2: are very very probabil.
Speaker 1: We tend to think it depends on the person because
Speaker 1: that's your algae and that's the bad one. But yeah,
Speaker 1: always tend to be high protein because the immune system. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because protein really can trigger an immune response. So that's
Speaker 1: why the tree nuts, peanuts, they're very you know, strong
Speaker 1: proteins in those foods as well as shellfish.
Speaker 2: Right, Amazing, Doctor Dean Mitchell, the books called Allergy and
Speaker 2: Asthma Solution, The Ultimate Program for Reversing or symptoms one
Speaker 2: drop of the time. Fantastic interview. Uh, give us your
Speaker 2: website if you have one.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, two things. Uh my website is www. Mitchell
Speaker 1: Medical Group dot com and you can hope they get
Speaker 1: a lot of information. And I'd like to just throw
Speaker 1: in one plug if I also like you. I'm a podcaster.
Speaker 1: I do a podcast the smartest Doctor in the Room.
Speaker 1: Not me.
Speaker 2: I thought it was gonna be not me.
Speaker 1: I'm not that. I'm not that. Uh well, it's really
Speaker 1: all that I've been doing the last five years. It's
Speaker 1: all these top experts that I get to interview on
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Speaker 2: So that sounds fantastic.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun. I really I do. I
Speaker 1: do get if I was gonna write my book would
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Speaker 2: Great, I think we should let people know that your
Speaker 2: next book is on candida, which is a real problem
Speaker 2: for people, and it's misdiagnosed so often. When do you
Speaker 2: think that's going to be available?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're hoping for mid October. I do think this
Speaker 1: year one the most important. Yeah, we're getting it out.
Speaker 1: I kind of pushed hard and I just because I
Speaker 1: see every week this is this is probably one of
Speaker 1: my biggest specialties now and we're helping people from all
Speaker 1: over the country. We do I also do some informational
Speaker 1: telehealth meetings by Zoom because there are people that are
Speaker 1: really suffering out there and they're really finding it hard
Speaker 1: to find sometimes their doctors familiar with this to guide them,
Speaker 1: and so I try to even work with their local
Speaker 1: doctors so that they can get help.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is one of these strange conditions that
Speaker 2: some doctors think that people are faking. In fact they're
Speaker 2: well in ordinary symptoms.
Speaker 1: You know, yes, you know, just to go back to
Speaker 1: as I know, we're finishing up that again, going back
Speaker 1: to my career. When I started in the AIDS epidemic,
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of patients with AIDS that had
Speaker 1: oral thrush and it on their tongue and rashes. And
Speaker 1: that's how a lot of us conventional doctors are trained
Speaker 1: you can't have this unless you're immune deficient. But that's
Speaker 1: not true. And what the book is really going to
Speaker 1: bring out is that unfortunately from antibiotics, common acid blockers
Speaker 1: that people take, you know, for reflux, corticosteroids, even if
Speaker 1: it's inhaled like for asthma, can change your microbiome. And
Speaker 1: this presents as candida overgrowth, which I call the most
Speaker 1: classic microbiomeing balance. We'll find a lot more, I'm sure,
Speaker 1: but these patients present with digestive issues, chronic fatigue, chronic sinus,
Speaker 1: so many things that are just not getting treated properly.
Speaker 2: Fantastic, Hey, Deane, really a pleasure having you on the program.
Speaker 2: We'll see you next time. Okay, take care, Thank you
Speaker 2: for having me on. Dean has a book coming out
Speaker 2: in the fall that we will feature on candida, which
Speaker 2: is a string change autoimmunity issue that is considered like
Speaker 2: a flu, but it's chronic and some people have it
Speaker 2: for years, and it's misdiagnosed, one of the most misdiagnosed
Speaker 2: problems that people have. In fact, a lot of doctors
Speaker 2: consider it. They think it's you know, an imaginary or
Speaker 2: it's all in the patient's mind. And I don't know
Speaker 2: why they would say that, I thought I had chronic
Speaker 2: I had candida years ago, but we didn't know, you know,
Speaker 2: so Anyhow, we're going to talk about Candida in probably
Speaker 2: October when the book comes out, and he's got some
Speaker 2: amazing results. And you know, a lot of this remedies,
Speaker 2: these holistic remedies are things that you can do yourself,
Speaker 2: and this is where you're beginning to take back your health.
Speaker 2: And this is really important. You don't want to give
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Speaker 2: pretty much do every want. You want to have not
Speaker 2: only some say, but also some direction that you can
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Speaker 2: it for this program. I want to think my guest today,
Speaker 2: doctor Dean Mitchell, in his book Allergy and Asthma Solution.
Speaker 2: As always the team of Gelteur, Mark Foster, Faisal ParvE.
Speaker 2: You guys rock all right, take care of me well
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