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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, how are you come on in? Let's have a

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<v Speaker 2>talk about what's happening lately. You know, I'm kind of

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<v Speaker 2>gonna skip over a little bit because Destiny is the

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<v Speaker 2>little sister for Earth ancients. And I got some news

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<v Speaker 2>that just can't wait. You know, we have been talking

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<v Speaker 2>and reporting on this what we thought was new satellite

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<v Speaker 2>imagery called SARS Synthetic Aperture Radar, and there have been

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<v Speaker 2>all types of claims from it piercing the underground up

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<v Speaker 2>to a couple of miles to show everything and anything,

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<v Speaker 2>and piercing rock and some meant and all types of

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<v Speaker 2>sediment to get underground, to get into the body of

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<v Speaker 2>the Great Pyramids and other structures. And many people, rightly so,

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<v Speaker 2>have questioned this because how does a satellite beam pierce

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<v Speaker 2>the ground and get underground. Well, I have it on

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<v Speaker 2>good authority from a former serviceman Air Force serviceman and

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<v Speaker 2>I can't give out his name, that SARS has been

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<v Speaker 2>part of the satellite arsenal for many years weaponry used

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<v Speaker 2>in armed forces, and they have something similar to SARS.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's called SAAAR, and I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>the other A stands for, but apparently they've been using

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<v Speaker 2>it effectively for something like thirty years, and according to him,

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<v Speaker 2>it can pierce the ground and go underground over a mile.

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<v Speaker 2>So now I am completely I mean, I'm excited, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a little perplexed because the imagery we got back

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<v Speaker 2>from Beoni.

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<v Speaker 1>And May.

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<v Speaker 2>And the team, the Stars team, the Italian team, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it shows these images and now we can kind of think, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>these are actually going underground and it's actually showing these

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<v Speaker 2>long tubular protrusions, and it's showing rooms, and it's showing

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<v Speaker 2>walkways and tunnels, and that's just underneath the Cufu and

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<v Speaker 2>Kaffree Pyramid. And two years ago, twenty twenty two, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was I couldn't believe it when those images came out.

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<v Speaker 2>What looks to be rooms, canals and shafts in the

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<v Speaker 2>Cufu and Kaffree Pyramid are actually there, are actually there.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is something that has been kept under wraps

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<v Speaker 2>until very recently. I asked if this gentleman would come

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<v Speaker 2>forth and speak publicly. He is not allowed to, and

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<v Speaker 2>he wouldn't say to me if he had signed an

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<v Speaker 2>NBA or not non disclosure agreement or not. And he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't say if he was still in service or not,

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<v Speaker 2>but he made it very plain to me through email

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<v Speaker 2>that this type of scanning technology was very much in

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<v Speaker 2>play and actively being used by the military. Now, what

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<v Speaker 2>that also tells me is that it's being used for

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<v Speaker 2>placement of bunker bombs. These are these huge bombs, sixty

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<v Speaker 2>ton or bigger bombs that are used to pierce the surface,

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<v Speaker 2>pierce cement, concrete, and attack underground and reinforced buildings, military buildings.

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<v Speaker 2>And that makes sense. You know, if it's a half

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<v Speaker 2>a mile underground or more, how are you going to

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<v Speaker 2>know where to where to drop the bomb? Well, this

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<v Speaker 2>s a ar star like satellite imagery would have to

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<v Speaker 2>be in play. So the other thing, and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't bring this up until I went back and

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<v Speaker 2>looked at it. The scan gate that was used by

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<v Speaker 2>Carmen Bolter and Klaus Donna was a military scanning technology

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<v Speaker 2>used by the British. And I'm really beginning to wonder

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<v Speaker 2>if it's the same type of scanning tech, very very

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<v Speaker 2>top secret that the Americans have that we use. So

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<v Speaker 2>this is brand new news. I don't know how Bioni.

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<v Speaker 2>Filipo Bioni, the technician on the Star's team, was able

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<v Speaker 2>to get that satellite to scan the pyramid, to scan

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<v Speaker 2>underneath the pyramid or if it was declassified, and this

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<v Speaker 2>must be the way, this must be the story. It's

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<v Speaker 2>declassified data. Just mind blowing, just amazing. Now we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be seeing renditions of these underground scans of the Cufun

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<v Speaker 2>Caffree Pyramid real, real soon. I'm hoping within the year.

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<v Speaker 2>We just had Trevor Grassi on talking about Hawara the Labyrinth,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm wondering if we're gonna get clarification on that

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<v Speaker 2>as well, because what they had to do is they

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<v Speaker 2>had to tune it in a little bit. They had

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<v Speaker 2>to adjust the frequency to have more of a solid image,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we get into three dimensional renderings, and I'd

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<v Speaker 2>love to see a good rendering of what's underneath the

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<v Speaker 2>pyramids in Giza. So anyhow, that's the latest news. It

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<v Speaker 2>is exciting and it is groundbreaking, and it is very

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<v Speaker 2>rare that we understand are giving the a look at

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<v Speaker 2>this top secret technology that is being used in archaeology

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<v Speaker 2>with great success. I might add as well, so SARS tech. Wow, amazing. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>today's program is on allergies. It's a program that I've

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to have on for a while. Not only allergies asthma,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, every spring and summer, even in the

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<v Speaker 2>fall and winter, people have allergic reactions to blooming flowers, weed, grasses,

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<v Speaker 2>and we even get into food allergies as well, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is something that we want to address. But the

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<v Speaker 2>beauty of today's program is we're looking at it from

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<v Speaker 2>a holistic perspective. And our guest today is a allopathic

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<v Speaker 2>doctor who got tired of recommending steroids and very powerful

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<v Speaker 2>anahystamines that really damaged the immune system rather than strengthen it.

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<v Speaker 2>And he has come across and is now using a

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<v Speaker 2>whole new holistic system that relieves people of really debilitating allergies.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course, if you have asthma, that's really really debilitying.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people have had childhood asthma and are restricted in

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<v Speaker 2>their activities and are restricted in what they can do

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<v Speaker 2>as young people, and it's just really really a challenge.

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<v Speaker 2>And the typical allopathic remedies are just too much. They're toxic,

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<v Speaker 2>they're powerful immune suppressant drugs. So my program today is

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<v Speaker 2>The program today is called Allergy and Asthma Solution, the

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<v Speaker 2>ultimate program for reversing your symptoms, one drop out a time.

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<v Speaker 2>And my guest is doctor Dean Mitchell, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>a real fun interview from a really inspiring and heads

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<v Speaker 2>up doc. So I hope you enjoy it. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>every so often I do a tour that I consider

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<v Speaker 2>a vision quiz. This is where you start and you

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<v Speaker 2>finish and you have been transformed in some respect from

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<v Speaker 2>the interaction with pyramids, with shaman, with special people. And

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<v Speaker 2>we have one coming up this December called Sacred Temple

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<v Speaker 2>Tour of Guatemala. It's going to be December first to

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<v Speaker 2>the twelfth of the month. This is the chance to

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<v Speaker 2>meet with shaman and archaeologists and people who understand energy,

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<v Speaker 2>ancient energy, all in one area. You may have heard

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<v Speaker 2>one of the hosts of the program. That's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be doctor Lydia de Leong and her partner Arturo and

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna be led through a series of programs initiations,

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<v Speaker 2>but the majority of this tour is interacting with buildings,

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<v Speaker 2>ancient temples, pyramids that we don't sit and look at,

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<v Speaker 2>we actually interact with through ceremony, through meditation and through connecting.

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<v Speaker 2>To join this tour, go to Earth Ancients dot com

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<v Speaker 2>forward slash tours. Check it out and the itinerary is fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be in Guatemala, which is the heart of Ticall,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the largest May cities in the world, and

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<v Speaker 2>we will go to many other places as well. For

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<v Speaker 2>all the details, again go to Earth Ancients dot com,

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<v Speaker 2>forward slash tours. If you have any questions whatsoever, send

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<v Speaker 2>me an email. Send it to Earth Agents the number

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<v Speaker 2>four of the letter you at gmail dot com. Come out,

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<v Speaker 2>do this vision, quest and heal, invigorate and transform. Destiny

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<v Speaker 2>is all about tools for transformation. We have a good

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<v Speaker 2>one for you today. We're into the summer months and

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<v Speaker 2>that means allergies are on the rampage. If you are

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who deals with allergies or asthma, this is a

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<v Speaker 2>good show for you. My guest today is doctor Dean Mitchell.

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<v Speaker 2>He has written a book called Allergy and Asthma Solution,

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<v Speaker 2>The Ultimate program for reversing your symptoms one drop at

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<v Speaker 2>a time. And the reason that we have doctor Mitchell

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<v Speaker 2>on the program is this is a holistic approach to

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<v Speaker 2>treating allergies and asthma. That is I think kind of radical.

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<v Speaker 2>Although the book came out in twenty oh six, I

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<v Speaker 2>think we're going to learn today that there is a

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<v Speaker 2>great solution to your issue. So doctor Mitchell, welcome to Destiny.

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<v Speaker 2>Great to have you on the program.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, it's really pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, tell us a little bit about your background. You

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<v Speaker 2>are actually you're an allopath. Obviously you went to med school,

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<v Speaker 2>but as an allergist, what was your interest during your education,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's kind of a typical specialty.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good question, you know. I trained in the

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<v Speaker 1>mid to late nineteen eighties in New York at the

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<v Speaker 1>height of the AIDS epidemic. So coming right out of

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<v Speaker 1>medical school, I came into the hospitals here in New

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<v Speaker 1>York City and immediately as the very young doctor, was

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<v Speaker 1>really harrowing time because patients were dying every week. We

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really have the medications that we have today that's

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<v Speaker 1>made in a chronic Liverpool condition, and those initial three

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<v Speaker 1>years of internal medicine residency got an amazing amount of unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>of exposure to these patients that had all kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>infectious diseases. So it was really it's the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thing that leaves an imprint on your career. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I did two more years of training at the same

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<v Speaker 1>hospital in allergy, infectious diseases, and I meanology. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a combined type of program. So again I had the contrast.

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<v Speaker 1>I was working at times in the hospital with very

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<v Speaker 1>ill patients. The other times I was going to the

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<v Speaker 1>clinic and seeing children and adults with allergies, asthma. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of things that are you know, outpatient, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>routine things that you commonly see in practice. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think we'll start to sit with me and we'll kind

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<v Speaker 1>of see the rest of my evolution into holistic medicine.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of got the feeling, you know. I always

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<v Speaker 1>tell the medical students that I teach. I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>youve got to make a really important decision while you're

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<v Speaker 1>in medical school at some point, like where do you

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<v Speaker 1>what field do you think you want to practice? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's so different. If you're obviously a rediologist or

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<v Speaker 1>antesceesiologist you're not really talking to patients very much, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>or a pathologist they're dealing a lot with people who

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<v Speaker 1>have passed I knew I liked dealing with patients. I

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<v Speaker 1>also knew I like dealing with children and adults. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I would have been the classic family practitioner EP. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because I like taking care of families. You learned so much.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also always had this strong desire and interest

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<v Speaker 1>in immunology, you know, and really dating back to like

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<v Speaker 1>Louis Pastor and all the great immunology, just like how

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<v Speaker 1>they actually cured diseases through using your own immune system,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, through vaccinations at that time. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's where I ended up going into the field that

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<v Speaker 1>I went into. And I guess I said, I really

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed not being pigeonholed into all you just take care

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<v Speaker 1>of either elderly men like would say in neurology, or

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<v Speaker 1>you're a pediatrician, you just take care of children. I

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<v Speaker 1>like taking care of all ages.

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<v Speaker 2>So you have a private practice where you see all ages.

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<v Speaker 2>And as an allergist, are you are you that's specifically

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<v Speaker 2>what you're seeing patients for or you kind of still

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<v Speaker 2>kind of grab a little bit of everything, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, my practice is really evolved. I would say the

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<v Speaker 1>first decade of my practice was strictly aalogy you know,

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<v Speaker 1>seeing kids asthma, allergic eczema and all kinds of sinus

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff interesting, and over time actually accep in practice

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<v Speaker 1>with my wife, who's the smarter in the office. Here,

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<v Speaker 1>I started to gravitate into holistic medicine. I actually did

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<v Speaker 1>very specialized training with somebody Northern California, doctor Dean Ornish. Yeah, programs,

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<v Speaker 1>he's He was a big influence on me about how

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<v Speaker 1>you know, his work, which is fascinating. You know, reversing

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<v Speaker 2>your specific techniques protocol for allergies, but would you say

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<v Speaker 2>a drug protocol, which is like we want the quick fix, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>That's why they're coming. They would go to local pharmacies.

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<v Speaker 1>They say, oh, doctor Mitchell's writing for a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>and the sublingual drops, which we'll talk about, they stopped

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<v Speaker 2>That's I mean, that's kind of interesting you say that,

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<v Speaker 2>because I've always had the impression that you're almost required

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<v Speaker 2>to submit prescription drugs to, you know, your patients. But

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<v Speaker 2>in California, perhaps it's different. On your own. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just that too. Again, what was so surprising

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<v Speaker 1>you know, honestly, like pharmacies made money by selling the

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<v Speaker 1>lists of the doctors that wrote prescriptions, not what patients' names,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were getting data and said, you know, like,

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<v Speaker 1>or something. Go, you're Docticchell, Can you tell us why

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<v Speaker 1>you're not writing for this? It's like, how do you

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<v Speaker 1>might have said, well, I don't write fricks. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it's effective, but I think, you know, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>the best choice for my patients. And they wouldn't come back,

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<v Speaker 1>which was fine, and I think it was my first

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<v Speaker 1>taste of like I'd rather be independent than beholden.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good for you. Hey, let's talk about allergies. What

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? You know, allergies are basically our immune system getting

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<v Speaker 1>funny stories I could quickly get in, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so again, typically in a bad poling season, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>and they're sneezing and they're trouble breathing and they're just

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<v Speaker 1>repeated exposure, the body develops an allergy, so that upon

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<v Speaker 1>exposure to that environmental trigger, it releases testamine all the

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<v Speaker 1>things that we are. You know, people hear about that's

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<v Speaker 1>the funny thing is, this is the kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>they tested him and lower behold, what was he very

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<v Speaker 1>allergic to? They don't have a lion test. He was

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<v Speaker 1>allergic to cats. You know, it's all along that feline line.

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<v Speaker 1>the story, was I guess it made sense back in evolution.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if somebody had a really good sniffer and

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<v Speaker 1>or tiger close by, probably had an evolutionary benefit. But

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<v Speaker 1>like I just had a patient earlier today who's coming

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<v Speaker 1>visit any of his friends, he actually liked to get

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<v Speaker 2>So are you saying that somebody who's allergic to say,

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<v Speaker 2>ragweed is, has been overexposed to it and the body's

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<v Speaker 2>just overwhelmed by the immune system cannot normally react. So

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<v Speaker 2>what's going is trying to push it off through mucus

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, yes, you know again, one of my really

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<v Speaker 1>good teachers at Columbia really brilliant allogists. Also he was dermatologists.

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<v Speaker 1>He used to say, you never allerged something, usually the

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<v Speaker 1>first time you're exposed, which is a very important thing

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<v Speaker 1>because so many patients are surprised, like even especially with

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<v Speaker 1>and I broke out in hives and I couldn't breathe,

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<v Speaker 1>and now they're coming I'm allergic. So it is from

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<v Speaker 1>repeated exposure. That's how the immune system and these things

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<v Speaker 1>called mass cells, they have receptors on them and occasionally

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<v Speaker 1>when you constantly are re exposed to something, it can

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<v Speaker 2>That's amazing. Now, the real serious reaction is asthma, and

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<v Speaker 2>that can kill people. And we know childhood asthma is

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<v Speaker 2>preva is apparently growing. What is asthma and why is

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<v Speaker 1>Well, asthma can be too many different causes, but the

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<v Speaker 1>main cause probably over seventy eighty percent of the time,

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<v Speaker 1>it is allergic. So what you're exposed to in your

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<v Speaker 1>children that grow up in homes where there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of what's called dust might exposure that's an indoor allergen

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<v Speaker 1>or unfortunately, cockroach exposure, which nobody likes to think of.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, we sometimes called insectology because nobody likes

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<v Speaker 1>to know their cockrop trilogy. But you could also be

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<v Speaker 1>in some of the fanciest buildings in New York that

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<v Speaker 1>are old, and it's in the air duct systems, and

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<v Speaker 1>when these things get ventilated into the air, they are

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<v Speaker 1>very strong causes of an allergic reaction. And the lungs

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<v Speaker 1>causes the tissue and the lungs to spasm, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what gives kids broncospasm or asthma.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, you know it's funny. I was reading your book

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<v Speaker 2>and you say there's a lot of contributing factors, including

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<v Speaker 2>global warming, air pollution, and I'm just curious, give us

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<v Speaker 2>a definition of how global warming is increasing this.

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<v Speaker 1>Alergyen Yeah, I'll give you two nice examples. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>that okay. So regarding that question, the studies are showing

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<v Speaker 1>that with the increase in global warming, there's more carbon

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<v Speaker 1>dioxide being given off by the plant substances, which is

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<v Speaker 1>increasing the polem counts. So you're just getting more and

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<v Speaker 1>more exposure. The other thing just regarded to pollution, it's

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<v Speaker 1>very interesting, you know. They find that asthma understandably is

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<v Speaker 1>more prevalent in a lot of times in inner cities

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<v Speaker 1>and areas where there's more pollution. And a study that

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<v Speaker 1>I found to be very interesting was there was one

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<v Speaker 1>year that there was the Summer Olympics in Atlanta, and

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<v Speaker 1>actually went down that summer and it was because of

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<v Speaker 1>was much less traffic, oh, right, was less. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting how it really is hard sometimes to escape your environment.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to take a short commercial break to allow

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<v Speaker 2>our sponsors to identify themselves, and will return short with

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<v Speaker 2>my guest today, doctor Dean Mitchell, discussing his book on

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<v Speaker 2>allergies called Allergy and Asthma Solution. Will be right back.

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<v Speaker 2>My guest today is Dean Mitchell. He is a alogist

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<v Speaker 2>and specializes in chronic allergies and asthma. He's written a

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<v Speaker 2>book called Allergy and Asthma Solutions. This is a new

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<v Speaker 2>remedy that is less invasive and much easier on the

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<v Speaker 2>immune system than drugs. I want you to talk a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit about heredity, which I was curious about and

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<v Speaker 2>just was thinking it does make sense if your previous

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<v Speaker 2>generations were in fields of poppies or in out in

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<v Speaker 2>the environment, you could maybe hand an allergy conditioned down right?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that what you're suggesting by give some specifics on that,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Sure, I mean, look, they basically say this is interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>If one parent is allergic, their child is a twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five percent chance of being. Really, if two parents are allergic,

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<v Speaker 1>it goes up to forty or fifty percent. So genetics

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<v Speaker 1>play a role. I always tell my patience, and I

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<v Speaker 1>really run away from your genetics. You can change your environment,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can't run away from your genetics. So honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>your body and everything too. But you know, just talk

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<v Speaker 1>to your parents, like for example, my mom, I have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things that she developed over time. So

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<v Speaker 1>whenever I'm starting to get something, Mom, did you get that?

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<v Speaker 1>this and then'll take care of itself. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>can know your family history, it's very helpful. And I

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<v Speaker 1>do see this, of course, and that's why I think

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<v Speaker 1>I was telling you earlier. I like the field that

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just And what's the funniest thing though, to me,

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times a parent will bring into the child's

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<v Speaker 1>got really bad allergies, and I treat them and they

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<v Speaker 1>get better, and then the parents come to me as patients.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, oh, you had your children as the guinea pig.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to see if they got better first before

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<v Speaker 1>you take care of yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever seen or is there a documented cases

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<v Speaker 2>where somebody, a grandparent or perhaps a known relative, had

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<v Speaker 2>asthma and handed that down. Is that because that seems

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<v Speaker 2>like a really Oh absolutely, that's an extreme reaction though,

425
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's like, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean again, you know again, having in the genetic susceptibility

427
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<v Speaker 1>puts you at a little risk, but against somebody's environment.

428
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<v Speaker 1>You know, if you know Grandpa worked in a dusty,

429
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<v Speaker 1>moldy building, you know he's going to have more likely

430
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<v Speaker 1>And if he was a smoker, he was more likely

431
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<v Speaker 1>he was going to have chronic asthma. Right, if his

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<v Speaker 1>granddaughter or grandson has the genetic susceptibility. But maybe he

433
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<v Speaker 1>lives in a really clean environment. He gets a lot

434
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<v Speaker 1>of fresh air, he's not playing ball a lot, didn't

435
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<v Speaker 1>have to work with the coal mines. He might have

436
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<v Speaker 1>a better chance of not having much of an issue.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, all right, so you have a reaction, you're sneezing

438
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<v Speaker 2>your coffee, you're having trouble breathing. You visit your doctor

439
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<v Speaker 2>and he takes a blood test. What does the blood

440
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<v Speaker 2>test reveal regarding the causation?

441
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I like to think of myself as a

442
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<v Speaker 1>medical detective. You know, That's why I went into the

443
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<v Speaker 1>field of allergy, and I want to know the cause because,

444
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<v Speaker 1>as you are alluding to, you know, you could go

445
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<v Speaker 1>to any doctor, general doctor, you're pediatrician, and when you're

446
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<v Speaker 1>having an asthm attack, they're going to give you a

447
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<v Speaker 1>prescription for ourn Hailer's if you have an analogy attacked

448
00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:27.200
<v Speaker 1>just in the nose, they may give you antihistamines or

449
00:29:27.240 --> 00:29:30.119
<v Speaker 1>nasal sprays, but that's not going to cure the problem.

450
00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:32.640
<v Speaker 1>That's a little bit of a band aid. So what

451
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<v Speaker 1>I try to find out is what is the underlying trigger.

452
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<v Speaker 1>If I find out that somebody has a petted home,

453
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<v Speaker 1>a cata dog, and even though they love them, that

454
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<v Speaker 1>they're allergic, we'll deal with it, but we got to

455
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<v Speaker 1>treat them. You know the same thing too, if a

456
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<v Speaker 1>person is allergic to mold or dust min it's another

457
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<v Speaker 1>indoor fairly hard to avoid allergen. Then we need to

458
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<v Speaker 1>know because otherwise, if you keep on exposing yourself over

459
00:29:58.599 --> 00:30:01.039
<v Speaker 1>and over again, it's like swimming against the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right now, in your book, you have what I

461
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<v Speaker 2>found is called an allergy score, and talk a little

462
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<v Speaker 2>bit about that, because that can go from very mild

463
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<v Speaker 2>reactions to very severe, and that's an important gauge on

464
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<v Speaker 2>just how problematic your your allergy is. So talk a

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<v Speaker 2>bit about that.

466
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that actually refers to to the asthma score.

467
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<v Speaker 1>There was actually it was come up by the academicians

468
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<v Speaker 1>to give people with asthma, a better idea of the

469
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<v Speaker 1>severity of their asthma, because there are different levels of

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<v Speaker 1>treatments that people require. You know, not everybody needs to

471
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<v Speaker 1>take medication every day, you know, depending on how frequent

472
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<v Speaker 1>their symptoms are. Other people that have chronic symptoms do

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<v Speaker 1>need to. So the score was basically to try to

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<v Speaker 1>help people get an idea where they fall on their

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<v Speaker 1>level of asthma.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and yeah, so that's important to have. Okay, So

477
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<v Speaker 2>the typical allopathic reaction, and we're going to get into

478
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<v Speaker 2>the unique holistic approach that you take when you go

479
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<v Speaker 2>to a doctor or even an allergist in a corporate

480
00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:20.240
<v Speaker 2>medical environment or anybody typically what are they going to

481
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<v Speaker 2>do in terms of a treatment. I'm talking about antihistamines

482
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<v Speaker 2>and also in the worst case, steroids.

483
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So yes, so you go to your conventional allopathic doctor,

484
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<v Speaker 1>as I said, pediatrician GP, to go to Urging Caroll,

485
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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of people do today. They're going to

486
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<v Speaker 1>try to understandably control the situation. They want to give

487
00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:47.720
<v Speaker 1>you some relief. They're not really I think looking at

488
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<v Speaker 1>the long term view of this, that's not maybe there

489
00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:52.839
<v Speaker 1>some cases, their job or what they see is their job.

490
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<v Speaker 1>So they're going to prescribe well mostly anti history is

491
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<v Speaker 1>there overly counted now, but they'll probably recommend that, I mean,

492
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<v Speaker 1>you might have been on them already. They may recommend

493
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<v Speaker 1>nasal steroids, which tend to be safe, but again I

494
00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:07.079
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't want to use it long term. That's not really

495
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:10.640
<v Speaker 1>a solution. And for as when they're going to prescribe inhalers,

496
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<v Speaker 1>you know, things that open up the lungs called broncho

497
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<v Speaker 1>dilators and possibly included in that inhaled steroids again, which

498
00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:21.240
<v Speaker 1>are safer than oral steroids, but again not totally safe

499
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:24.759
<v Speaker 1>if you're going to be using them ongoing. So I

500
00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:26.440
<v Speaker 1>try to make the example they're kind of like the

501
00:32:26.480 --> 00:32:30.079
<v Speaker 1>stop gap or it's the band aid therapy, which is

502
00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:34.880
<v Speaker 1>in the acute situation. But any patient that's having recurrent symptoms

503
00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:38.759
<v Speaker 1>I think should really take the long view approach and

504
00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:41.839
<v Speaker 1>find out what is causing the issue, how do they

505
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<v Speaker 1>prevent it and reduce their need for medications?

506
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<v Speaker 2>And why are medications a problem? Why are they and

507
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<v Speaker 2>how does the body react to continual use of say steroids,

508
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, because just give us the fundamentals.

509
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<v Speaker 1>On it, well, medications as we all know. I mean

510
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<v Speaker 1>they do one beneficial thing, but sometimes they do another

511
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<v Speaker 1>negative thing. And antihistamy is tend to be one of

512
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<v Speaker 1>the safer medications, but like anything used long term, you know,

513
00:33:14.200 --> 00:33:17.960
<v Speaker 1>they tries out the bodies, you know, hydration status. I

514
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<v Speaker 1>always warn patients that take antisamis please, especially if you're

515
00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:23.160
<v Speaker 1>in a hot weather area. You have to drink more

516
00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:26.960
<v Speaker 1>than you would think. Oh, there are some concerns about

517
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<v Speaker 1>how it affects cognition because some of them do our sedating.

518
00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I also am very careful to one patient not to

519
00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:40.400
<v Speaker 1>use those combination antihistamy decongestants. Those cause a lot of problems.

520
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<v Speaker 1>And those are also over the counter, like the well

521
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<v Speaker 1>I hear to use the names, but like loluraditine D

522
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<v Speaker 1>or you know, promote Beneffectsadine D the D is decongestant

523
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<v Speaker 1>and that's a stimulant and that can keep you awake,

524
00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:56.920
<v Speaker 1>it can give insomnia. I've seen a lot of young

525
00:33:56.960 --> 00:33:59.920
<v Speaker 1>patients that blood pressure will go up with the heart

526
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:03.279
<v Speaker 1>will go up because they're using it continuously because they think, oh,

527
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<v Speaker 1>you know it works today, why should I take it

528
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:08.079
<v Speaker 1>every day? And you know, medicines have side effects. And

529
00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:10.639
<v Speaker 1>of course quotic a steroids have side effects. I mean

530
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<v Speaker 1>again most doctors, if the patients are aware, you don't

531
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:14.960
<v Speaker 1>want to be on those long term. I mean, it

532
00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:18.840
<v Speaker 1>affects your blood sugar, your blood pressure, your weight, mood.

533
00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:22.440
<v Speaker 1>And the way the pharmaceutical companies just try to get

534
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:25.480
<v Speaker 1>around it is by making it topical, by inhaling it

535
00:34:26.599 --> 00:34:30.400
<v Speaker 1>or using a nasal spray, which is causes less of

536
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:34.000
<v Speaker 1>the side effects. But honestly, if you look carefully over

537
00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:37.320
<v Speaker 1>time cumulatively, it can cause problems like people that use

538
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:41.920
<v Speaker 1>like nasal steroids can get increased eye pressure or glacoma. Yeah,

539
00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:44.519
<v Speaker 1>so you got it. I mean I always take the view.

540
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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's the holistic side. I mean like, yes,

541
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<v Speaker 1>I'll do with the stop gap whatever I need to do,

542
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:51.960
<v Speaker 1>but what is the long range plan to keep my

543
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:52.760
<v Speaker 1>patient healthy?

544
00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:56.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, before we get into this unique therapy that you

545
00:34:57.199 --> 00:35:03.800
<v Speaker 2>prescribe and have been recommending, is there a way holistically

546
00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:09.840
<v Speaker 2>to reduce your reactionary symptoms of allergies prior to any

547
00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:12.840
<v Speaker 2>medication or is that just the way it is? You

548
00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:21.280
<v Speaker 2>just because you're you know you're you're predisposed to allergetic reactions.

549
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:26.760
<v Speaker 1>The solution which I think most people don't like is avoidance,

550
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:30.719
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes that's not even a practical solution. Like you know, again,

551
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<v Speaker 1>I have people that are lernt the dust mites, and

552
00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:36.239
<v Speaker 1>I tell them, okay, do do the home environmental control

553
00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:38.239
<v Speaker 1>in case your mattresses, your pil cases, that's where a

554
00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:40.199
<v Speaker 1>lot of dust mites are. But it doesn't help when

555
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:42.159
<v Speaker 1>you go to a friend's house that houses really dusty.

556
00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:44.480
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't help when you get in an airplane. Those

557
00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:46.159
<v Speaker 1>places are you know, where it has the wall to

558
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:49.079
<v Speaker 1>wall carpeting and stuff that those are full of dust smites.

559
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:52.280
<v Speaker 1>When you go sometimes even a fancy hotel, it's full

560
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:55.679
<v Speaker 1>of dust smites. So my patients again are coming to

561
00:35:55.719 --> 00:35:58.480
<v Speaker 1>me because they're also a little bit trapped and they

562
00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:01.840
<v Speaker 1>have unavoidable exposure to the alergians. And they don't want

563
00:36:01.880 --> 00:36:03.079
<v Speaker 1>to live in a bubble. They don't want to be

564
00:36:03.119 --> 00:36:05.760
<v Speaker 1>restricted to their home, and you know, they need to

565
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:07.639
<v Speaker 1>be able to move around freely.

566
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<v Speaker 2>Wow, all right, let's talk about the revolution sublingual allergy

567
00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:19.199
<v Speaker 2>IMUO therapy or otherwise known as allergy drops. Talk about

568
00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:24.360
<v Speaker 2>how you found it, yeah, and how you began incorporating

569
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:27.039
<v Speaker 2>and it is funny. Okay, go ahead because you don't

570
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<v Speaker 2>describe it with great detail in the book what it

571
00:36:29.039 --> 00:36:31.960
<v Speaker 2>actually is. But I want to, okay, I want to

572
00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:32.519
<v Speaker 2>hear about it.

573
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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna try to incorporate a lot of things because

574
00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:38.800
<v Speaker 1>it is a lot of things. You know. It's funny.

575
00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:43.360
<v Speaker 1>When I went into allergy again back in the early

576
00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:47.000
<v Speaker 1>nineteen nineties, the treatment I was doing in the clinic

577
00:36:47.079 --> 00:36:52.199
<v Speaker 1>where I trained was giving alergie shots every week. Now. Yeah, now,

578
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:55.480
<v Speaker 1>but what's interesting is that allergy shots have been around

579
00:36:55.559 --> 00:36:56.679
<v Speaker 1>for about one hundred years.

580
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<v Speaker 2>One hundred years.

581
00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:01.840
<v Speaker 1>That's a long time. And what I always laugh about

582
00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:05.119
<v Speaker 1>when I present to new doctors and to patients about

583
00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:06.719
<v Speaker 1>the drops, because a lot of the most people used

584
00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:08.480
<v Speaker 1>to always say to me, especially back when I published

585
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:10.119
<v Speaker 1>the book, like I never heard of this. How come

586
00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I never heard of this? Why are you the only

587
00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:15.039
<v Speaker 1>one doing it? And I said, you know, we're up

588
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:19.280
<v Speaker 1>against a lot of factors. I said, On one hand,

589
00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:23.840
<v Speaker 1>the famous line by Max Plank is that medicine advances

590
00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:26.760
<v Speaker 1>one funeral at a time. That's funny. I threw this

591
00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:28.960
<v Speaker 1>out to the to my medical students, and they said,

592
00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:31.280
<v Speaker 1>they said something really funny. I laughed. They said, oh,

593
00:37:31.639 --> 00:37:34.000
<v Speaker 1>you mean like doctors learning when somebody died, it's like

594
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:35.960
<v Speaker 1>what to do? I said, no, No, What it means

595
00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:38.719
<v Speaker 1>is that things don't change in medicine until the older

596
00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:41.599
<v Speaker 1>generation dies out because they hold on to what they

597
00:37:41.599 --> 00:37:47.599
<v Speaker 1>did forever. It's something new and maybe better. And so

598
00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:52.599
<v Speaker 1>I was always perplexed why algae had not changed in

599
00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:55.159
<v Speaker 1>a hundred years. I mean every other field of medicine.

600
00:37:55.159 --> 00:37:57.320
<v Speaker 1>If you took a doctor from the nineteen thirties or

601
00:37:57.320 --> 00:38:01.320
<v Speaker 1>forties and compare them to a doctor too and twenties,

602
00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:05.280
<v Speaker 1>their practice would look very different. But not analogy. I

603
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:08.119
<v Speaker 1>mean again, seriously, they could an analogist in nineteen forty

604
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:10.239
<v Speaker 1>could go to sleep like Van Winkle, wake up in

605
00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:12.760
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty and he would miss a beat. You know,

606
00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:14.559
<v Speaker 1>he'd be back to by what he said. That doesn't

607
00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:17.519
<v Speaker 1>seem right. So I was, you know, one of again

608
00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:20.519
<v Speaker 1>the people in the forefront thing doing blood testing for allergies,

609
00:38:20.559 --> 00:38:23.639
<v Speaker 1>which is very accurate. And then again I found out

610
00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:25.800
<v Speaker 1>about the sublingual drops. I thought it was the perfect

611
00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:30.880
<v Speaker 1>solution to rebalancing the immune system naturally and safely. Because

612
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:34.400
<v Speaker 1>we're doing in the in the medication, in the treatment

613
00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:37.599
<v Speaker 1>that we use. It's a basically taking the natural allergens

614
00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:40.760
<v Speaker 1>in the environment, the red weed, the treatpollen, diluting it

615
00:38:40.840 --> 00:38:44.159
<v Speaker 1>down to very safe levels, and then slowly giving to

616
00:38:44.199 --> 00:38:47.639
<v Speaker 1>the patient with drops under the tongue to build up

617
00:38:47.679 --> 00:38:49.840
<v Speaker 1>their own protective antibodies.

618
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, stop you for a minute. It sounds it sounds

619
00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:54.199
<v Speaker 2>just like homeopathy to me.

620
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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, this is the thing. I am not

621
00:38:56.960 --> 00:38:59.320
<v Speaker 1>by any means and expert in homeopathy. But the one

622
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:02.480
<v Speaker 1>thing I do, you know and holdmeopaty, which finds very fascinating,

623
00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:04.840
<v Speaker 1>is like treating like well.

624
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<v Speaker 2>It's little bits of poison. You give a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of No, we're not giving.

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<v Speaker 1>A poison though. But the thing you're right about that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's you know, there's other areas of

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<v Speaker 1>medicine they're looking at this. It's fascinating that if you

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<v Speaker 1>get and the other analogy I like to use with patients,

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<v Speaker 1>it's different, but it helps them comprehend it. I try

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<v Speaker 1>to tell them. In doing the allergy drops, the immune therapy,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little bit like working out. It's like working

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<v Speaker 1>out your immune system. And if I was your trainer

634
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<v Speaker 1>and you came to me, I wouldn't give you a

635
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<v Speaker 1>two hundred pound weight and say okay and bench press it.

636
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<v Speaker 1>You know, I would start you with the five and

637
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<v Speaker 1>the ten pound weights and get you stronger and stronger

638
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<v Speaker 1>to you are ready for that heavier weight. Well, that's

639
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<v Speaker 1>what we do with the drops. We start out very

640
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<v Speaker 1>light doses, small doses. You do it every day, but

641
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<v Speaker 1>it's simple, and then you eventually get to very high

642
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<v Speaker 1>doses so that when you're exposed to the pollen, you're

643
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<v Speaker 1>exposed to that cat or you're exposed to that food,

644
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<v Speaker 1>and you don't have a bad reaction.

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<v Speaker 2>So you you do it as a preventative. Every day

646
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<v Speaker 2>you have a drop or two and before you go

647
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<v Speaker 2>out in the in the environment.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you just do it every day regularly. It's like

649
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<v Speaker 1>brushing your teeth. It's a couple of drops. I tell people,

650
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<v Speaker 1>leave it by your toothbrush, do your few drops under

651
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<v Speaker 1>your tongue. And again this is the beauty of it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this is another funny story, but you know

653
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<v Speaker 1>with allergy injections, it's usually given once a week, right

654
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<v Speaker 1>to truly desensitize somebody. It's like working out. It's good

655
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<v Speaker 1>to do it every day. And I was once at

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<v Speaker 1>a meeting once and this this is too funny. The

657
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<v Speaker 1>one of the doctors went up there who knew the

658
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<v Speaker 1>history of allergy, and he says, do you know why

659
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<v Speaker 1>alergae shots are given once a week? And all the

660
00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:39.880
<v Speaker 1>doctors in the audience, the alogies like turn through each other. Well,

661
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<v Speaker 1>we don't know why because the original clinic in England

662
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<v Speaker 1>that gave allergie shots was only open once a week.

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<v Speaker 1>So there, so those the only reason. People, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, if things don't change, they just somebody

665
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<v Speaker 1>did it this way, it keeps on going.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to take a short commercial break to a

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<v Speaker 2>lot our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return

668
00:41:03.679 --> 00:41:08.239
<v Speaker 2>shortly with my guests today, Doctor Dean Mitchell, discussing his

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<v Speaker 2>research and work with allergies and asthma, will be right back.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about you, but I used to have

671
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:04.960
<v Speaker 2>horrible hay fever as a kid, and I did what

672
00:42:05.079 --> 00:42:07.960
<v Speaker 2>most people do is just to use an a histamines

673
00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:12.039
<v Speaker 2>nose sprays, and I don't know. They weren't great, they

674
00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:14.800
<v Speaker 2>didn't feel great, but they worked, but it's not really

675
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:19.320
<v Speaker 2>a great solution. And doctor Mitchell's remedies today are much

676
00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:22.719
<v Speaker 2>easier on the immune system. And appear to have better

677
00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:31.800
<v Speaker 2>long term effects. Okay, so continue on with the allergy drops.

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<v Speaker 2>So obviously you're seeing individuals you're not. I mean it's

679
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<v Speaker 2>not you don't pull a medicine off the shelf.

680
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<v Speaker 1>Correct. Each is mixed specifically for that individual. That's one

681
00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:48.239
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent correct. That's why it's so special and targeted.

682
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<v Speaker 1>If somebody comes to me and there's allergic to tree

683
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<v Speaker 1>grass and ragweed and maybe cats, that can get the

684
00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:59.960
<v Speaker 1>whole mixture in the bottle, But I'm not giving them dustmites, moles,

685
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:03.039
<v Speaker 1>whatever to there's no point to that. You're targeting based

686
00:43:03.079 --> 00:43:05.280
<v Speaker 1>on the testing, what the person is allergic to.

687
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<v Speaker 2>Who is who is mixing the formula.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good question too. So in some places there

689
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<v Speaker 1>are specialized pharmacies that are doing it. I have my

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<v Speaker 1>own laboratory in my office where you know, we make

691
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<v Speaker 1>up the drops. Again, it's really nice. It's really like

692
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<v Speaker 1>a soup to nuts thing. Like I've interviewed the patient,

693
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<v Speaker 1>I know their history, I have their test results, I

694
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<v Speaker 1>match up everything, and then we make up the drops

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<v Speaker 1>for them.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, are they Is it in an alcohol solution?

697
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<v Speaker 1>No, it's in glycerin, which substerine. So it it Actually

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<v Speaker 1>I tell patients all the time because they get concerned

699
00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:41.360
<v Speaker 1>to go what does it taste like? It actually tastes

700
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<v Speaker 1>a little sweet, because glitcierin actually has a little bit

701
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<v Speaker 1>of a sweet taste. But it's not sugar. It's actually

702
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<v Speaker 1>a pat But it doesn't make you bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to just think about this. If I had

704
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<v Speaker 2>a child who has severe bronchi or not broadcast but asthma. Yeah,

705
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<v Speaker 2>and they are being triggered by just walking and you

706
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<v Speaker 2>know in the big city or whatever because of the pollution.

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<v Speaker 2>You're suggesting to the parents that they take increased drops

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<v Speaker 2>like one a day, two a day, three a day.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about the protocol.

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<v Speaker 1>That's actually a really important thing that you brought up.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't even thought to mention it today. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that we've learned a lot in

713
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<v Speaker 1>allergy to is something called the allergic march. And what

714
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<v Speaker 1>that means is that a lot of times young infants

715
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<v Speaker 1>and young children can present with different kind of allergies.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, for example, food allergies, or they have exama

717
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<v Speaker 1>of the allergic skin reactions and some pollen allergies, and

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<v Speaker 1>if they are not treated at a young age, they

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<v Speaker 1>can go on to develop more chronic allergic symptoms in

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<v Speaker 1>their twenties, thirties and later in life, like with sinuses

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<v Speaker 1>and asthma. So that's one of the indications and reasons

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<v Speaker 1>to treat. When we get sometimes the children early, we're

723
00:44:57.880 --> 00:45:01.199
<v Speaker 1>trying to again rebalance their immune system so it's not

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<v Speaker 1>tilting toward the allergic inflammation sign.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, how are the drops helping the immune system reduce

726
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<v Speaker 2>the reaction.

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<v Speaker 1>To the Now we're getting to something some very intense immunology.

728
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<v Speaker 1>So to try to make it simple, the cells in

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<v Speaker 1>the body are the way the cells activate as usually

730
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<v Speaker 1>what they call two states. There's the cells in the

731
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<v Speaker 1>body that react to infections. There's the cells in the

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<v Speaker 1>body that whatever reason react to toxins and in grouped

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<v Speaker 1>in that are allergens, even though obviously allergens are not toxins,

734
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<v Speaker 1>but our bodies system, which is can remembery, it's based

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<v Speaker 1>on a primitive immune system. You know. Again, I'm doing

736
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<v Speaker 1>another book after the one that's coming out in October,

737
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<v Speaker 1>where i've'll be talking about how why some of the

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<v Speaker 1>cells are our body called mass cells. Were are you

739
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<v Speaker 1>have them? Because they not only help us heal when

740
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<v Speaker 1>we get cuts. They have different kinds of enzymes to

741
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<v Speaker 1>protect us against like snake toxins and venoms and wasps things,

742
00:46:10.679 --> 00:46:12.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, things that again we don't worry about too

743
00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:16.280
<v Speaker 1>much anymore. But our immune system was built that way, right,

744
00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:20.480
<v Speaker 1>so you know again it's so if you think about

745
00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:23.159
<v Speaker 1>our immune system again in the simplistic terms, it's got

746
00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:25.079
<v Speaker 1>those two states. We have our mute system that gets

747
00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:28.800
<v Speaker 1>ready to fight infections like covid and other viruses, and

748
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<v Speaker 1>we have o immune system that's ready for allergies and

749
00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:38.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, toxins. And what happens is when the infection part,

750
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<v Speaker 1>believe that is quiescent the in certain patients, again, depending

751
00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:44.960
<v Speaker 1>on a little bit of genetic predisposition, the allergic component

752
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:47.760
<v Speaker 1>is ready to pounce and sometimes you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know more than it should. Wow, I hope. I'm not

754
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<v Speaker 2>going to throw a curve at you. And you have

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<v Speaker 2>two great case studies in the back of your book

756
00:46:55.760 --> 00:47:04.719
<v Speaker 2>of patients who are introduced to the product. The solution.

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<v Speaker 2>One is a guy named a kid named Josh who's fourteen,

758
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<v Speaker 2>who's a soccer player. Could you remember that case or.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, you're gonna have to have to pick my memory.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had so many cases. Okay, tell me, I'll I'll

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<v Speaker 1>paly come back to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't. How about Jeff the forty three year

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<v Speaker 2>old pharma pharmacists who had asthma.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, oh yeah, so that okay, that was a I'll

765
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<v Speaker 1>try to do this quickly. That was a good story.

766
00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:37.079
<v Speaker 1>I knew, actually knew Jeff personally. He was a pharmacist

767
00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:42.079
<v Speaker 1>in our area. Really athletic, healthy guy, right yeah, very

768
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<v Speaker 1>you know, love tennis and sports and and everything. And

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<v Speaker 1>he came to me, you know, I remember coming in

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<v Speaker 1>and making an appointment, coming see my office. He looked

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<v Speaker 1>very downtrodden. He was getting asthma all the time, which

772
00:47:56.719 --> 00:48:01.360
<v Speaker 1>he hadn't had since his early teens. He was just fatigued.

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00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:04.159
<v Speaker 1>He you know, he went to a couple of the

774
00:48:04.199 --> 00:48:07.920
<v Speaker 1>other internets and specialists in the town and they just

775
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<v Speaker 1>gave him more more medicine. He was actually on a

776
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<v Speaker 1>lot of courtizone. He actually gained like fifteen or twenty pounds.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is guys, they said, very athletic, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>great basketball player even in his forties. And so I

779
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<v Speaker 1>was getting my history on him, and it turns out

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<v Speaker 1>what was the new thing was a cat in their home.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently his wife loved this kitten and brought her into

782
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<v Speaker 1>the house and now in the house, into his bedroom.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, he started to realize because I think it's

784
00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:40.119
<v Speaker 1>the cat. But she doesn't believe me. She thinks I'm

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<v Speaker 1>making this up. This is not an unusual story. I

786
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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of these stories. But there's a lot

787
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<v Speaker 1>of tension in families and marriages because of the pet.

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<v Speaker 1>And I tested him and sure enough, he was highly

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<v Speaker 1>allergic to cat dander. Though this is again this is

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<v Speaker 1>the other I don't know if very included this in

791
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<v Speaker 1>the bay dead. So he comes back. We discussed the

792
00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:07.440
<v Speaker 1>the test results, but he doesn't come alone. His wife

793
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<v Speaker 1>comes also and she wanted to hear it firsthand. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm explaining to him. I showed him the results, and

795
00:49:16.719 --> 00:49:21.079
<v Speaker 1>so I said, look, your decisions are and obviously maybe

796
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<v Speaker 1>the best decision is to get rid of the cat

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<v Speaker 1>or we have to do the you know, nere therapy.

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<v Speaker 1>And so they're looking at him and the husband, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff doesn't really you don't want to do the therapy.

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<v Speaker 1>He wants to get rid of the cat. The wife

801
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<v Speaker 1>looks at him and like, no cat stays. So Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>got the therapy and he got better, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>were able to get most medications he did.

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<v Speaker 2>Really Well, that's a good story off the top of

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<v Speaker 2>your head. Do you have a pediatric h you know,

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<v Speaker 2>story that you can provide us that is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a a hint of before and after the allergy drops.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if I can, I want to just bring up

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<v Speaker 1>because I think it's so important. I'm so excited about

810
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<v Speaker 1>the work that I'm doing now with the allergy drops

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<v Speaker 1>for the food allergies, which as I mentioned, is probably

812
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<v Speaker 1>the most dangerous type of biology that we face.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's fantastic. That's a good transition because that's what

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<v Speaker 2>my next question was, is it doesn't look like there's

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<v Speaker 2>a cure for food allergies at all, and people are

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<v Speaker 2>reacting poorly to like shellfish or like you said, peanut

817
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<v Speaker 2>it was another one. Yeah, talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>So there have been some really big changes in food

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<v Speaker 1>allergy treatment, which for decades it was nothing. What we

820
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<v Speaker 1>told patients was to avoid the food you're larger to.

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<v Speaker 1>But good luck, you know, it's again most of these

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<v Speaker 1>patients that had bad reactions, it was all accidental exposures.

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<v Speaker 1>So there are three new treatments now for food alergies,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I'll just mention them quirkly. Some of them

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<v Speaker 1>might do something I don't do. The first one at

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<v Speaker 1>which I don't do, is called oral algaemotherapy, which is

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<v Speaker 1>essentially like powders, which some doctors that are specialized in

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<v Speaker 1>this make up these powders, whether it's peanut or milk,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever the patients allergic to, and they desensitize them. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a very intense process. Those patients have to be in

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<v Speaker 1>the office for some of these hours. It's typically done

832
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<v Speaker 1>with very young children. But the goal is to enable

833
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<v Speaker 1>the children to eat those foods, which is a big win,

834
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<v Speaker 1>and I know some specialists that are doing it. But again,

835
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<v Speaker 1>as I really have to caution it, it's not the

836
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<v Speaker 1>safest procedure, but it does work. The next thing which

837
00:51:39.719 --> 00:51:42.599
<v Speaker 1>I do is called the sublingual drops. With these food allergies,

838
00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:45.719
<v Speaker 1>my goal is a little bit different. Desensitize the patient

839
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<v Speaker 1>with these drops. It's at a lower level, but it's

840
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<v Speaker 1>very safe. The patients can do it at home, and

841
00:51:55.360 --> 00:51:58.559
<v Speaker 1>the goal in my case working with these patients is

842
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<v Speaker 1>to decedence ties them enough so that an accidental exposure

843
00:52:04.239 --> 00:52:07.199
<v Speaker 1>won't put them in harm's way, so they have to

844
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<v Speaker 1>end up in the emergency room will god phibility or reaction.

845
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<v Speaker 1>The third thing that's available, which has its also pros

846
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<v Speaker 1>and cons is an injection called Zolair, which is usually

847
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<v Speaker 1>given once a month. It's one of these new monoclonal antibodies.

848
00:52:20.239 --> 00:52:25.920
<v Speaker 1>It's been shown to again raise the threshold for having

849
00:52:26.119 --> 00:52:29.800
<v Speaker 1>a bad allergic reaction. But again it's not a definitive

850
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<v Speaker 1>treatment as the drops or the oral therapy is, because

851
00:52:32.719 --> 00:52:36.719
<v Speaker 1>once you stop them, the benefit goes away. Last thing

852
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<v Speaker 1>I just got to throw in two, which is so

853
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<v Speaker 1>important I want it to be under underacknowledged, is that

854
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<v Speaker 1>what's really exciting is that there's a new type of

855
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<v Speaker 1>epiceph bring that children and adults can have now. It's

856
00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:57.679
<v Speaker 1>called the Nephie. It's a spray. So all these kids

857
00:52:57.679 --> 00:53:00.599
<v Speaker 1>have walked around with EpiPens to treat an alert reaction

858
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<v Speaker 1>can now use a nasal spray that does the same thing.

859
00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:06.159
<v Speaker 1>And I think this is going to be a game

860
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<v Speaker 1>changer because so many kids are afraid to give themselves

861
00:53:08.239 --> 00:53:10.760
<v Speaker 1>a shot. They always they find out they're having a

862
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<v Speaker 1>load reaction. They don't have it on them because I

863
00:53:12.519 --> 00:53:14.920
<v Speaker 1>think there's that subconscious they don't want to be carrying

864
00:53:14.960 --> 00:53:18.119
<v Speaker 1>around this you know, automatic needle.

865
00:53:18.679 --> 00:53:24.039
<v Speaker 2>So that's that's a solution over an EpiPen.

866
00:53:24.159 --> 00:53:26.440
<v Speaker 1>I guess correct, right, This is been a cute reaction

867
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<v Speaker 1>right now.

868
00:53:28.719 --> 00:53:33.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, amazing, amazing, amazing, amazing. So what would you say

869
00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:39.800
<v Speaker 2>the number of clinicians in the United States who are

870
00:53:39.880 --> 00:53:43.559
<v Speaker 2>using the allergy drops? Is it a few people? Is

871
00:53:43.559 --> 00:53:44.559
<v Speaker 2>it a growing number?

872
00:53:44.880 --> 00:53:50.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? So two categories. The I am fortunate to be

873
00:53:50.760 --> 00:53:54.199
<v Speaker 1>the medical consultant for a comany called MRS Allergy and

874
00:53:54.320 --> 00:53:58.960
<v Speaker 1>they have are connected with four to five hundred clinics

875
00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:04.320
<v Speaker 1>around the Knights that operate allergy testing and treatment. And

876
00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:06.519
<v Speaker 1>one of those treatments is the sublingual drops, which I

877
00:54:06.599 --> 00:54:09.480
<v Speaker 1>help consult on. So wherever you are in the country,

878
00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:12.039
<v Speaker 1>hopefully you can find a practitioner. So they go to

879
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<v Speaker 1>is it mrs dot com to find that mrs dot

880
00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:20.239
<v Speaker 1>com to find a physician in your area who is

881
00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:26.079
<v Speaker 1>providing allergy drops? Okay, excellent, right, And that's one source.

882
00:54:26.159 --> 00:54:32.119
<v Speaker 1>Is there any other sources that might be available, say

883
00:54:32.199 --> 00:54:34.679
<v Speaker 1>at a Google search? I think so. I think that

884
00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:37.400
<v Speaker 1>if you go into Google or check at CVTINA, which

885
00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:39.679
<v Speaker 1>is very good, and you put in I would like

886
00:54:39.719 --> 00:54:46.519
<v Speaker 1>a sublingual allergy specialist for environmental allergens or foods. I

887
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<v Speaker 1>think the searches aren't quite good at coming up with

888
00:54:49.559 --> 00:54:52.679
<v Speaker 1>people that have experience in doing this kind of work.

889
00:54:53.960 --> 00:54:55.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, I wanted to ask you real quickly,

890
00:54:55.960 --> 00:54:59.320
<v Speaker 2>how successful is this new therapy for food allergies?

891
00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:02.440
<v Speaker 1>A good question. I've been very excited myself, you know.

892
00:55:04.960 --> 00:55:09.719
<v Speaker 1>I the patients I've been treating knock Wood, not one

893
00:55:09.760 --> 00:55:12.159
<v Speaker 1>has had a dangerous food algae reaction, and I know

894
00:55:12.199 --> 00:55:16.639
<v Speaker 1>some of them have had accidental, you know, ingestions. And

895
00:55:16.719 --> 00:55:20.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm actually doing now with very sophisticated blood tests called

896
00:55:20.639 --> 00:55:24.000
<v Speaker 1>the basic palactivation test, which is giving us some better

897
00:55:24.039 --> 00:55:29.039
<v Speaker 1>insight into how protected these patients are. So and the

898
00:55:29.039 --> 00:55:31.719
<v Speaker 1>studies done by your doctor Edwin Kimmitt, who's now in

899
00:55:31.719 --> 00:55:34.599
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina. He's probably one of the leading researchers in

900
00:55:34.599 --> 00:55:37.679
<v Speaker 1>this field. I mean, he has shown in his studies

901
00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:41.239
<v Speaker 1>that you know, kids, for example, young children with peanut allergy,

902
00:55:41.400 --> 00:55:45.320
<v Speaker 1>after they did like the three years of of the

903
00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:48.280
<v Speaker 1>peanut allergy drops, they could tolerate in some cases up

904
00:55:48.280 --> 00:55:49.719
<v Speaker 1>to seven or nine peanuts.

905
00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:53.199
<v Speaker 2>What is the most lethal reaction? Obviously you could throw

906
00:55:53.320 --> 00:55:54.159
<v Speaker 2>closes up and.

907
00:55:54.239 --> 00:55:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Pull that apalaxus, right, and when you're unfortunately, the whole

908
00:55:58.880 --> 00:56:03.239
<v Speaker 1>body is discharging this histamine. And besides getting what we

909
00:56:03.280 --> 00:56:07.000
<v Speaker 1>call erdicarria their hives, you can get the ringo spasm

910
00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:09.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, where your you know, your airways shuts down,

911
00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:13.480
<v Speaker 1>and also hypotension where your blood pressure drops to dangerous levels.

912
00:56:13.480 --> 00:56:15.199
<v Speaker 2>Those and that's where you've got to have an EPI pin.

913
00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:18.119
<v Speaker 1>Right. Oh, yeah, you know you got to really moved quickly.

914
00:56:18.320 --> 00:56:21.239
<v Speaker 2>But what what are some of the I mean I've

915
00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:25.519
<v Speaker 2>heard of. I think it's shellfish is one that's really

916
00:56:25.519 --> 00:56:27.000
<v Speaker 2>really bad. But what are some of the ones that

917
00:56:27.039 --> 00:56:29.360
<v Speaker 2>are very very probabil.

918
00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:31.800
<v Speaker 1>We tend to think it depends on the person because

919
00:56:32.239 --> 00:56:34.519
<v Speaker 1>that's your algae and that's the bad one. But yeah,

920
00:56:34.679 --> 00:56:38.719
<v Speaker 1>always tend to be high protein because the immune system. Yeah,

921
00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:41.880
<v Speaker 1>because protein really can trigger an immune response. So that's

922
00:56:41.920 --> 00:56:46.480
<v Speaker 1>why the tree nuts, peanuts, they're very you know, strong

923
00:56:46.519 --> 00:56:50.119
<v Speaker 1>proteins in those foods as well as shellfish.

924
00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:56.239
<v Speaker 2>Right, Amazing, Doctor Dean Mitchell, the books called Allergy and

925
00:56:56.400 --> 00:57:01.599
<v Speaker 2>Asthma Solution, The Ultimate Program for Reversing or symptoms one

926
00:57:01.679 --> 00:57:04.880
<v Speaker 2>drop of the time. Fantastic interview. Uh, give us your

927
00:57:04.920 --> 00:57:06.000
<v Speaker 2>website if you have one.

928
00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:11.159
<v Speaker 1>Sure, yeah, two things. Uh my website is www. Mitchell

929
00:57:11.519 --> 00:57:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Medical Group dot com and you can hope they get

930
00:57:16.440 --> 00:57:18.039
<v Speaker 1>a lot of information. And I'd like to just throw

931
00:57:18.079 --> 00:57:20.639
<v Speaker 1>in one plug if I also like you. I'm a podcaster.

932
00:57:20.760 --> 00:57:23.400
<v Speaker 1>I do a podcast the smartest Doctor in the Room.

933
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<v Speaker 1>Not me.

934
00:57:26.679 --> 00:57:28.199
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was gonna be not me.

935
00:57:28.280 --> 00:57:32.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm not that. I'm not that. Uh well, it's really

936
00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:34.239
<v Speaker 1>all that I've been doing the last five years. It's

937
00:57:34.320 --> 00:57:36.760
<v Speaker 1>all these top experts that I get to interview on

938
00:57:36.800 --> 00:57:40.360
<v Speaker 1>a variety of medical topics that interest me and I'm

939
00:57:40.400 --> 00:57:41.320
<v Speaker 1>hopefully my listeners.

940
00:57:41.480 --> 00:57:43.000
<v Speaker 2>So that sounds fantastic.

941
00:57:43.239 --> 00:57:45.280
<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of fun. I really I do. I

942
00:57:45.320 --> 00:57:47.440
<v Speaker 1>do get if I was gonna write my book would

943
00:57:47.480 --> 00:57:49.440
<v Speaker 1>be becoming the smartest doctor in the room because after

944
00:57:49.519 --> 00:57:53.000
<v Speaker 1>doing all these podcasts, I've gotten a little bit smarter. Wow.

945
00:57:53.199 --> 00:57:55.679
<v Speaker 2>Great, I think we should let people know that your

946
00:57:55.880 --> 00:58:00.360
<v Speaker 2>next book is on candida, which is a real problem

947
00:58:00.440 --> 00:58:05.400
<v Speaker 2>for people, and it's misdiagnosed so often. When do you

948
00:58:05.440 --> 00:58:06.800
<v Speaker 2>think that's going to be available?

949
00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're hoping for mid October. I do think this

950
00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:12.760
<v Speaker 1>year one the most important. Yeah, we're getting it out.

951
00:58:12.840 --> 00:58:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I kind of pushed hard and I just because I

952
00:58:15.360 --> 00:58:17.280
<v Speaker 1>see every week this is this is probably one of

953
00:58:17.320 --> 00:58:20.599
<v Speaker 1>my biggest specialties now and we're helping people from all

954
00:58:20.599 --> 00:58:23.000
<v Speaker 1>over the country. We do I also do some informational

955
00:58:23.079 --> 00:58:26.559
<v Speaker 1>telehealth meetings by Zoom because there are people that are

956
00:58:26.559 --> 00:58:29.000
<v Speaker 1>really suffering out there and they're really finding it hard

957
00:58:29.360 --> 00:58:34.400
<v Speaker 1>to find sometimes their doctors familiar with this to guide them,

958
00:58:34.440 --> 00:58:36.159
<v Speaker 1>and so I try to even work with their local

959
00:58:36.199 --> 00:58:39.440
<v Speaker 1>doctors so that they can get help.

960
00:58:39.960 --> 00:58:43.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is one of these strange conditions that

961
00:58:43.760 --> 00:58:46.519
<v Speaker 2>some doctors think that people are faking. In fact they're

962
00:58:47.079 --> 00:58:49.239
<v Speaker 2>well in ordinary symptoms.

963
00:58:48.760 --> 00:58:50.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, yes, you know, just to go back to

964
00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:53.599
<v Speaker 1>as I know, we're finishing up that again, going back

965
00:58:53.599 --> 00:58:55.960
<v Speaker 1>to my career. When I started in the AIDS epidemic,

966
00:58:56.000 --> 00:58:58.639
<v Speaker 1>I saw a lot of patients with AIDS that had

967
00:58:59.159 --> 00:59:02.440
<v Speaker 1>oral thrush and it on their tongue and rashes. And

968
00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:04.920
<v Speaker 1>that's how a lot of us conventional doctors are trained

969
00:59:05.159 --> 00:59:08.440
<v Speaker 1>you can't have this unless you're immune deficient. But that's

970
00:59:08.480 --> 00:59:10.760
<v Speaker 1>not true. And what the book is really going to

971
00:59:10.800 --> 00:59:15.360
<v Speaker 1>bring out is that unfortunately from antibiotics, common acid blockers

972
00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:19.840
<v Speaker 1>that people take, you know, for reflux, corticosteroids, even if

973
00:59:19.880 --> 00:59:23.719
<v Speaker 1>it's inhaled like for asthma, can change your microbiome. And

974
00:59:23.760 --> 00:59:28.239
<v Speaker 1>this presents as candida overgrowth, which I call the most

975
00:59:28.239 --> 00:59:32.280
<v Speaker 1>classic microbiomeing balance. We'll find a lot more, I'm sure,

976
00:59:32.760 --> 00:59:39.320
<v Speaker 1>but these patients present with digestive issues, chronic fatigue, chronic sinus,

977
00:59:39.400 --> 00:59:43.639
<v Speaker 1>so many things that are just not getting treated properly.

978
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<v Speaker 2>Fantastic, Hey, Deane, really a pleasure having you on the program.

979
00:59:48.039 --> 00:59:50.440
<v Speaker 2>We'll see you next time. Okay, take care, Thank you

980
00:59:50.480 --> 00:59:54.800
<v Speaker 2>for having me on. Dean has a book coming out

981
00:59:54.840 --> 00:59:59.400
<v Speaker 2>in the fall that we will feature on candida, which

982
00:59:59.440 --> 01:00:04.920
<v Speaker 2>is a string change autoimmunity issue that is considered like

983
01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:09.760
<v Speaker 2>a flu, but it's chronic and some people have it

984
01:00:09.840 --> 01:00:14.119
<v Speaker 2>for years, and it's misdiagnosed, one of the most misdiagnosed

985
01:00:14.559 --> 01:00:18.320
<v Speaker 2>problems that people have. In fact, a lot of doctors

986
01:00:18.400 --> 01:00:21.599
<v Speaker 2>consider it. They think it's you know, an imaginary or

987
01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:25.079
<v Speaker 2>it's all in the patient's mind. And I don't know

988
01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:27.199
<v Speaker 2>why they would say that, I thought I had chronic

989
01:00:27.920 --> 01:00:33.840
<v Speaker 2>I had candida years ago, but we didn't know, you know,

990
01:00:34.119 --> 01:00:38.679
<v Speaker 2>so Anyhow, we're going to talk about Candida in probably

991
01:00:38.719 --> 01:00:42.760
<v Speaker 2>October when the book comes out, and he's got some

992
01:00:42.840 --> 01:00:47.719
<v Speaker 2>amazing results. And you know, a lot of this remedies,

993
01:00:47.920 --> 01:00:50.719
<v Speaker 2>these holistic remedies are things that you can do yourself,

994
01:00:51.280 --> 01:00:53.519
<v Speaker 2>and this is where you're beginning to take back your health.

995
01:00:53.559 --> 01:00:55.960
<v Speaker 2>And this is really important. You don't want to give

996
01:00:56.039 --> 01:00:59.119
<v Speaker 2>up everything to a doc and let him, you know,

997
01:00:59.119 --> 01:01:01.760
<v Speaker 2>pretty much do every want. You want to have not

998
01:01:01.840 --> 01:01:04.880
<v Speaker 2>only some say, but also some direction that you can

999
01:01:04.920 --> 01:01:10.960
<v Speaker 2>take on your own. And these holistic remedies are fabulous

1000
01:01:10.960 --> 01:01:13.559
<v Speaker 2>for that. And this is really really where you have

1001
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<v Speaker 2>pronounced healing and that's what we're all about. Tools for

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<v Speaker 2>and I mentioned this last week. We have a new

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<v Speaker 2>few months right now, but we will eventually have a

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<v Speaker 2>It's just been launched recently. It's called The Destiny Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the website for the for the podcast, so check

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<v Speaker 2>that out. Hey, And again, we're gonna have a channel

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<v Speaker 2>coming up real soon so you can see a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of these people and that'll be a probably I think

1019
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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna have it up by the end of September,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe even sooner. I'll let you know. Hey, we got

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<v Speaker 2>tours coming up. If you're a fan of touring ancient sites,

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1024
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<v Speaker 2>We're only taking a few people. We have a few

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<v Speaker 2>May tenth. This is a brand new tour with our

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<v Speaker 2>friend Muhammad Ebraheem Wow. Twelve days of beautiful sites, amazing megalists,

1033
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<v Speaker 2>and one of my favorite topics, which is the megalithic sculptures.

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<v Speaker 2>These are multi ton monsters. They just don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>they were built, you know. I mean people are saying,

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<v Speaker 2>well they are carved by hand. There's no evidence of

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<v Speaker 2>hand carving. This some kind of technology that got involved

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<v Speaker 2>that carved these statutes. Again for all the details and information,

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<v Speaker 2>go to earth asients dot com, Forward slash too. We

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<v Speaker 2>have a blast. I think you will too. Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 2>it for this program. I want to think my guest today,

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<v Speaker 2>doctor Dean Mitchell, in his book Allergy and Asthma Solution.

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<v Speaker 2>As always the team of Gelteur, Mark Foster, Faisal ParvE.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys rock all right, take care of me well

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<v Speaker 2>and we will talk to you next time. Stilling itself

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<v Speaker 2>Persians standard sence

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<v Speaker 1>Still s