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Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, off of a weekend that has seen Ji

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Opataia win his title fight.

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Speaker 2: Notice how I praised it that.

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Speaker 1: Way on the Fight Freaks United recap Because he went

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into the weekend as the IBF champion. We knew he

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was the ring magazine champion. Dan Rayfield always says he's

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the lineal champion. They have created the ZUFA Boxing cruiserweight champion.

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So he wins all of that, wins easily. But that's

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not the whole story. We're here for that. We've got

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some fight news. We've got more welcome in. It is

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the Fight Freaks United Recap podcast. I am the somewhat

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capable host, TJ. Reeves, Hello, Big Dan Rayphiel.

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Speaker 2: Good to be with you.

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Speaker 1: Am I wrong to say that there may be as

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much interest in what we're about to do about what

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went on outside of the ring with the IBF and

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the stripping of the title as what went on inside

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the ring?

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Speaker 2: Fair right? Yes?

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Speaker 3: For first of all, I'll say to all of our listeners,

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happy birthday to the somewhat capable host.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: On Sunday night after Opataia's fight with Lanton. But to

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answer that question, you know I've been saying we've been

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how long we're doing this podcast TG, like three years

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or something like that.

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Speaker 2: We're going to we're going on four now.

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Speaker 3: Four years, and they said it wouldn't last.

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Speaker 2: That's correct.

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Speaker 3: I've been saying on almost a weekly basis, practically the

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IBF does IBF things, and this is exactly one of them.

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And if they think that this is somehow going to

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help their business, and I'm not taking size in this

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whole zoofa versus the sanctioning bodies. I understand where both

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sides are coming from. But the IBF, when they do

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the shit that they did, they're just digging their own

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fucking grapes, all right.

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Speaker 2: So that's one way obviously to look at it.

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Speaker 1: I'll have opinions on what I think, but we'll get

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into the fight as well.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for finding us on Apple, Spreakers, Spotify, all

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the podcast outlets we come your way going into the

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weekend in the preview mode, recap coming off the weekend,

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find the Big Fight Weekend YouTube page as we well,

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uh and you'll get extra content there, interviews, nostalgias. Sometimes

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we're live there differently separately on the YouTube page. So

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like and subscribe on there, so, uh, we'll get into

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the fight again. The fight did not have a lot

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of drama. Opataiah successfully wins again. The IBF had already

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announced they're not sanctioning the fight and the and the

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belief is they're stripping him.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into that part first.

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Speaker 1: That since you and I talked, that was the backdrop

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going in. Interestingly that on Friday night, Opa Tiah is

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doing the press conference for Zufa Boxing and he's got

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the IBF belt sitting there right in front of him,

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talking about defending the IBF title.

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Speaker 2: But that was not the whole story.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, the IBF decided we're not gonna be part of this,

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We're not gonna sanction this, and we're gonna we're gonna

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go ahead and strip him for it being an unsanctioned fight.

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That's what you're referring to, So pick it up from there.

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We knew this obviously for the last day and a half.

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Speaker 3: Well, they sanctioned. They did sanction the fight. According to

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Zupa Boxing, all of their sanctioned fees were paid on Thursday.

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Levi Martinez, who has been a former judge, was the supervisor.

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He flew in from where he lives in New Mexico.

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ready to do the fight. And as you said, ji

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Obtaiah came to the press conference. He had the belt

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and the ring belt sitting on the on the dance

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right in front of him. You had somebody else from

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the promotion holding the ZUFA title, which was vacant because

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this was the first one they've created, and the IBF

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depends on who you believe in the So after the

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press conference was over, this was like Friday night. You know,

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in the news business, we call taking out the trash

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when you announced something late Friday night exactly. They announced

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that they were that this was going to be an

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unsanctioned fight, and the reasons they gave were because when

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they first decided to sanction the fight, it was impressed

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upon them that the fact that the ZUFA belt was

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going to be at stake was merely going to be

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a trinket of appreciation, a trophy type title whatever, which obviously,

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and I say this from a technical perspective, no matter

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what you think of the zoofa belt, it is a

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trophy title at the moment because technically the legislation that's

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belt under the UBO. You can go google all this shit.

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We're not going to get into a dissertation about what's

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going on in the Congress right now. At that point

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they might have a case to make, but presently there

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is nothing more than this was a trophy belt, because

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it's really not an official belt from the standpoint of

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the Muhammad Ali reformat that has certain elements that involve

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what you can do as an organization from a promoter

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in terms of having a belt, having rankings, combining those

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duties with being a manager, etc. Anyway, they decided that

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for some reason they weren't going to sanction the fight

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because that which is a lot of horseshit. That was gobbledego.

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The real deal is this Darryl Peoples, who's the president

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of the IBF, who's a good guy. I like there.

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I've known Daryl twenty something years. I've never had a

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crossworder than my entire life, nothing but respect. But in

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this particular cases, I was told who he was not present,

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but that he saw the way that the title was

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presented in the press cards and he thought it wasn't

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displayed prominently enough that it was an embarrassment to the IBF,

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that it was sort of taking second seat to the

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ZUFA title and all that nonsense. And as I joked

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with one of the Zufah public relations people, I said,

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from the photo link that they that they dispense to

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the press, and I was like, I can't find a

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picture of Obatai or the fight without the fucking IBF

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title in it. So how could you say it's not

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prominent displayed. It was sitting on the day, is right

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in front of him, like it was in every picture.

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He was holding it at the press cards, he held

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it at the way in strap, he was even holding

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it over his shoulder in the post fight interview. Now,

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once he got into the fring and they you know,

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he made he fought at the weight, so if he

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had been over the weight, maybe there'd be a different outcome.

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and once that happened, uh, he will he is stripped

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of the title. So I mean, that's the that's the

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end of the story. The title is vacant. And all

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at some point knowing the IBF, the next couple of days,

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I'll send out their letters ordering you know whoever their

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next two top contenders are to fight for the for

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the vacant title. My perspective on it is very simple.

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and be done with it. If you don't want to

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sanction the title fight, say the reason why and pull it.

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But don't wait till the fucking you know, the Friday

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Speaker 1: So you again have been digging around all weekend. We

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you know, we went into the weekend just like everybody

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else that does this saying are they going to get

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it resolved? You just lay it right right, You just

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laid out they had a representative there that ZUFA Boxing

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had paid the fees. So and by the way, it

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just doesn't it doesn't seem to add up that they're

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just insulted by how it was positioned. That seems that

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it seems to be there has to be something.

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Speaker 3: Else, Daryl. People sent an email expressing those emotions too,

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or some people involved in the event. I don't have

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a copy of that email, but I was read the

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email over the telephone when I was reporting on this story, right,

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and he's got his balls in a bunch as the

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bottom line, it seems to me. And he just wasn't

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having it. He took his ball and went home, and uh,

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you know that's the.

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Speaker 2: Way that's there, that's their prerogative.

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Speaker 3: Well, yes, and no way to do. But you don't

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sand bag a promotion by doing it on the friday.

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Speaker 1: Right, so you've said it, You've said a lot on

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that point of view. Let's just say a couple of

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other things then we'll get into the the part of

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the fight. You've got a promoter and a promotion that

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has said we're we're basically going to put the boxing

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organizations out of business.

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Speaker 3: Then don't thank it in the first place.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I got you for that part of the answer.

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and it's now come into fruition, you can't have every

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Speaker 2: Why do you care? Why do you care about the IBF?

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Why do you care about any of them?

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Speaker 3: Do I care?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about if you're zoofa boxing why do

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Speaker 3: Well, here's the reason.

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Speaker 1: It's very I understand that you're going to give me

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a reason. But you can't have all sides of the

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argument either. If you can't hold on either you care

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about it, either it is significant or you're saying to

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Jai Opataiah, don't worry about that anymore. We'll pay you enough,

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we'll get you enough big fights. You don't need that title.

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because he said, so, you can be the IBF champion

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if you are with us, even though they're saying on.

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Speaker 2: The other hand, no, we don't, we don't.

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Speaker 1: Want to do business with them, we want to put

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them out of business, blah blah blah blah blah. But

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when the rubber meets the road, the phrase that's out there.

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up with the agreement for whatever reasons. And to them,

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to zoof of Boxing, it doesn't matter to them ultimately.

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Speaker 2: Now to the.

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Speaker 3: Fighters, it does matter. I'm gonna tell you why, because

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they hold on, hold on. No, I'm not gonna hold on,

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hold on, hold.

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Speaker 1: Please let me complete the point to them, it ultimately

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doesn't matter to the fighter. It absolutely matters in this

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case because he's the IBF World Champion and that's his leverage,

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that's his dollars, and so if if ZUFE isn't going

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to be able to make up that money get him

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bigger fights, it matters to the fighter more than it

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Speaker 3: In that instance, the money is obviously important. However, Jai Obataya,

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long before he signed with ZUFA Boxing, has dreamed of

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being an undisputed champion. You cannot deny. I mean, money

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interview wait I did with him that we played on

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the pod the other day, if I'm undisputed, the money's

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going to be there. It's not only about the money.

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He has a burning desire, as do thousands of boxers

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whoever put on the gloves to be a champion, to

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win the belts, to achieve their goal. His particular goal

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is to win all the belts. If you want to

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be the undisputed champion in today's present boxing, you got

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to have the four titles. Now, maybe that will change

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at some point. It used to be three. Used to

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be two. Maybe the IBF will be gone someday. Who

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the fuck knows. All I know is this, the ZUFA

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even though they didn't want to do that, but they

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did it because they made a promise to the athlete

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that they signed, and they delivered. On their perspective, they

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trying to piss on the IBF. That doesn't mean it

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was going to continue like that for eternity, but for

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in the end it was the IBF that fuck it.

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I'm not super boxing, and I'm gonna say this again.

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and the IBF did the right thing. Blah blah blah

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blah blah. Everybody fucking forgets these are not about holding

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hands and singing fucking songs. Okay, this is about you're

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in a business and the bottom line is he's the

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IBF champion that the IBF doesn't like it, so fucking

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be it. I dealt with PBC ten years ago when

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they wouldn't do the same shit with the WBC or

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the WBA or the WBO or the IBF, and they

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wouldn't put the titles in the graphics, they wouldn't let

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the fucking supervisor in the ring. They took to physically

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remove the belt from the ring apron to not show

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it on television. So this ain't my first fucking road

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Speaker 2: So understood there.

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Speaker 3: If they've got if they're so fucking like emotional about

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the fact that, oh, we're not being treated at our

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belt is lower on the dais than the zoofa belt

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is in there, then fuck damn.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's that's why I'm saying. To me, it doesn't

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all add up. There has to be something else that

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Speaker 3: To me, I think they just tried to say, you know,

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Didn't work.

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Speaker 1: Uh. The end result in this is Opa Tiah wins

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and I'm gonna have a couple more thoughts. So the

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fight was a fairly one sided fight. A lot of

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holding throughout the fight, target practice at times for Opataiah.

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Sunday night, that the ref was too involved with taking

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points away. Blanton did land a couple of blatant low blows.

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that after he had landed one significant low blow and

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then landed another one.

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Speaker 2: But there was no real drama in this Dan.

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just became as is Glanton gonna last the distance?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So there we go. So any any more on the

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if it was not it was like a bad fight.

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I mean for a fight that ended one nineteen to

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one oh six on three score cards, it was, you know,

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entertaining to watch. Uh, the referee was overly officious. It

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was Alan Hudg Huggins. Uh, he did take a point

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for holding against Glenn. He took another one on the

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low blow. I thought the low blow one was legit.

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think it was the eleventh or and he took a

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point from Opatai for holding, which was ridiculous. In the end,

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it didn't matter because Oba Tai won every single round.

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Glanton as tough at NOWS. He didn't get knocked out.

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I'll get more work out of that. They were making

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the point on the broadcast, and I happened to agree

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that if Glannon was fighting some other top ten type

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cruiser weights tonight, he probably would have won or certainly

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been competitive or had a heck of a chance to win.

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Opataia didn't get the knockout. It's the first, uh, you

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know time he You know, he's had a couple of

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spectacular knocks. But I'll tell you one thing, he keeps

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his streak alive of making his go to the hospital.

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massive hematoma in the middle of his forehead that was

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from a punch, not from a head butt. Yeah, blood

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coming out of his mouth and Dana White said at

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the post fight news commerce they made him go to

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the hospital just to get checked out. They should have

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I agree with.

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Speaker 2: That target practice.

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Speaker 1: He was bleeding, he was swollen, they said right away

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on the broadcast. And they did a good job with

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the endswell that it reminded you of that ugly Hassim

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Speaker 2: Not on the middle of the head. That was grotesque.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I was at that fight. And yeah,

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after the fight, I was talking to Rockman. We were

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joking around and I touched that hematoma.

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Speaker 2: Uh only you. But anyway, one sided fight.

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Speaker 1: Opataiah didn't ultimately get the knockout, but he wins.

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Speaker 2: He gets his hands hand raised.

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Speaker 3: And that is that is his eighth lineal title defense.

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Speaker 1: And so and the bigger issue now is what is

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next if you're him and what happens here And so

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let me say two other important things. This whole thing

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with the ALI Act, it is in it because Opataian

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needs to have separate representation, a separate management that looked

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at his deal in the first place and understands, Okay,

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if this is not good for us, we got to

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have a way to get out of the deal. And

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if he didn't do that, that's on him. Well first

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of all, Ultimately, ultimately, if he wants to be an

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undisputed champion, it does not appear they're gonna play nice

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and work well with others to help him be that,

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and so.

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Speaker 3: Boxer the fight and after the fight, they will still

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help him do that. Dana was talking about that in

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the press covers. He's still with Nick Francis and the

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folks at Tasman Fighters. They're experienced boxing people. Uh, they

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would not have done this if they didn't have that

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assurance that they could pursue that. Now, whether they can

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make the fights or not, I don't know now. In

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the in the post fight, they talked about perhaps he

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fights the winner of the May second fight between Zerdo

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who's got two of the belts and David Benavitez, who

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is challenging. That fight takes place May too, that the

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that the winner perhaps might fight Opatai in the latter quarter.

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Speaker 1: Here and here I laughably laughably say, of course they're

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going to suggest that that would be the fight. Well,

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I'll put it like David Benavitez at Zerto Ramirez would

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be crazy right now to go get involved with anything

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with this for fear that their organizations are going to

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do the same thing the IVF did and take the time.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'll put this out there. Uh, there's rumblings

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if O. But I mean, if if Benavitez wins against

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against against Zerto come May two, the rumblings are maybe

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his contract is coming up with his people and that

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perhaps they'll will make a big offer to sign him

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at at ZUFA. That would obviously be a big feather

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in their cap to sign one of the top American

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stars and one of the best fighters in the boxing

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to their stable. That would make it easily doable. My

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point is there's a long way between now and the

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end of the year. Now. I think if Opataia, depending

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on how his health is, he seemed to come out

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of this fight with no problems, he wants to stay active.

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He talked to me about it in the pre fight

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interview that we did about in for him, he has

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this fight now that just took place. To let the

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other guys do their big business in May. He would

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like to come back in the summer and then fight

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the winner in the fall. If he did fight in

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the summertime, you have the WBC champion and Noel McKellan,

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who is out there is available to make fights. He

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came to a ZUFA card when they introduced Opataiah in

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terms of his signing, they posed them for photos. That's

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the fight he would like to have. I think ZUFA

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could probably make that if they wanted to. There's gonna

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be options. They say they will continue to support his

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pursuit of winning the belts. Whether they'll actually do that

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or not. It does take two to tango. We'll see.

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You know, Listen, I'm sick and tired of people saying

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you can't just because you don't like somebody doesn't mean

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you can't do business with somebody as long as it's

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right for you and for your client and for the

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other side. So I think that in the proper circumstance,

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ZUFA in this business, there's gonna have no choice but

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at some times occasionally to work or at least deal

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with the organizations and what they showed they were willing,

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ready and able to do so. With the IBA, it

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may not have been let's hug it out, but they

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agreed and that deal was done. They paid the fees

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and the guy was you know, the supervisor was there

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and by the way, let me add also just to

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add to gi Opataie's case. And I'm not I'm not

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sure what will happen, but maybe there'll be a lawsuit

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of subtype, but just to make it official from from

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their perspective, even though the supervisor left and they didn't

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have to do this once the once the IBF took

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it its ball and went home, they conducted the Sunday

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morning weight check as the IBF would normally have done,

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and both Opatai and Lanton came in within the prescribed limit.

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They could only go as heavy as two hundred and

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fourteen pounds. Opatai and Glanton were you know, under that weight,

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So they followed all those IBF rules to a t.

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Speaker 2: All right, stay tuned.

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Speaker 1: There will be more you'll be reporting on this as well,

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but for now, the IBF says we were going to

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trip him and they are going to follow through from Yeah,

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from what it appears, stay tuned statute, because more than

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one person has said, well, wait a minute, they could

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relent down the road because they did this before and

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put him in a vacant title fight against somebody else

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at the IBF. We're talking about they did that before

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with him, so stay tuned on what they actually But.

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Speaker 3: Even if they did that, then then what do they

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have to do. They have to like give zoofa like

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measurements of where they have to place the belt and

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all the bullshit. I mean, it's you know, I feel

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like that ship has held for the moment. I mean,

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I don't see them necessarily doing that. But what they

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should have done is just fucking sucked it up and

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let the guy fucking fight for the title. They didn't

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break any roles. The statement that they put out was bullshit.

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And by the way they talk about how in that

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statement they only recognize the WBO, the WBA and on

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the WBC. I can tell you chapter and verse of

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the number of boxing matches that have been involved with

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IBF titles that also have included non big other organizational belts,

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the legendary WBF title, the IBO title, the Any of

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our listeners who think I don't know what I'm talking

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about with that, go just do yourself a favorite. Take

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five seconds and go on box wreck and look up

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Vladimir Klitschko's record and see the number of IBF championship

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fights and he was involved with it also included the IBO. Okay,

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do the same thing with Roy Jones, who was an

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undisputed champion who had the WBO, the WBA, the IBF,

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the WBC at various times in his career. And look

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and see how many times he had fights involving the

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ib or the IBO.

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Speaker 1: Last chapter not written on all of this. That is uh,

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that's for sure.

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Speaker 3: I'm fired up at twenty to one an.

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Speaker 2: Okay, believe or not.

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Speaker 1: There was another fight as well, and this is the

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former WBA featherweight champion Mauricio Bronco. Laura was in action

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and actually scored a quick knockout, and Dan is all

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about this.

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Speaker 2: This is why we love you.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I say that.

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Speaker 1: Well, because you had to see it in Spanish? Am

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I not mistaken through ESPN Knockout? Yeah, and our and

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our boy Chava Rodriguez and and the call of the

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fight through ESPN Knockout. So tell me more about Mauricio

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Laura getting a main event KO on Saturday night.

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Speaker 3: I mean, by the way, that's one of the good

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things I guess in the post ESPN Top Rank World

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is that now they put these most weeks the ESPN

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knockout cards, which are for South America, Central America, Mexico.

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They put them on in America via the ES Well,

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it depends, but either ESPN deport Days or ESPN Plus.

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Sometimes it's both. It's always ESPN plus I guess anyway, it's.

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Speaker 1: Also now one of the new ESPN Unlimited. If you're

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actually describing twenty nine to ninety five a month, you

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get it all English or even in another language.

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Speaker 3: If this was one of those cards. But as far

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as it being in Spanish, TJ. I've spent thirty years

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watching Spanish language boxing. I don't necessarily understand every word

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that they say, but I understand boxing. You don't need to,

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you know, what's the old thing you talk boxing? So yes, anyway, I've.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're easy Kiada from your derret show that

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you're left from your right by the way in Espanol,

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you do know that?

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Speaker 2: Go ahead going out on Laura and the ko.

474
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, so like look, Laura, you know he was for

475
00:21:07,799 --> 00:21:09,319
a minute and a half there was like he was

476
00:21:09,319 --> 00:21:11,160
sort of on top of the world. He kind of

477
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,279
came out of nowhere, had traveled to England, had scored

478
00:21:15,279 --> 00:21:17,119
a huge you know, this was one of those things

479
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,799
where if you talk about it now, people like to

480
00:21:19,839 --> 00:21:22,519
bust on matching because of the number of times they've

481
00:21:22,559 --> 00:21:26,400
brought some sort of obscure Mexican fighter to the UK

482
00:21:26,519 --> 00:21:30,160
to fight one of their guys and suddenly the Mexican

483
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,960
fighter pulls the upset. This was exactly what happened if

484
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,559
you go back in twenty twenty three, the very Unknown,

485
00:21:37,079 --> 00:21:39,799
or even before that, actually when he fought Josh Warrington

486
00:21:39,799 --> 00:21:43,039
back in twenty twenty one, that's when Laura again out

487
00:21:43,039 --> 00:21:47,640
of complete obscurity defeat of Josh Warrington, won that title,

488
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,680
got a technical draw in the rematch, and then eventually

489
00:21:51,759 --> 00:21:55,400
ended up fighting Lee Wood and beating him somewhat. You know,

490
00:21:55,839 --> 00:21:58,160
there was some dispute over the stoppage whatever, and then

491
00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:59,799
he lost in the rematch. So that was over the

492
00:21:59,799 --> 00:22:01,720
space of like two years, and then he kind of

493
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,640
has disappeared since then, but he's still doing his thing

494
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,640
in Mexico. He has now won four fights in a

495
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,960
row since then, and Saturday Night on this card we

496
00:22:10,079 --> 00:22:11,799
just mentioned, he did the job again. Now, he was

497
00:22:11,839 --> 00:22:14,480
not matched with a particularly top opponent. It was actually

498
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,920
a horrible opponent, but he looked good. He stopped him

499
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,880
in the second round. It was a one sided ass

500
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,279
kicking and he put his punches together very well against

501
00:22:22,319 --> 00:22:25,240
the opponent his Mexican country and Rafael Rosas in the

502
00:22:25,279 --> 00:22:27,279
second round, and the ref had kind of you know,

503
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,400
it didn't put him down to end the fight, but

504
00:22:29,559 --> 00:22:32,880
was just hammering him on his feet, and the referee

505
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,519
stopped the fight. And your boy Rosas now, who is

506
00:22:35,559 --> 00:22:41,359
now twenty eleven and two, has now lost ten of

507
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,960
his last eleven fights, So this was a sort of

508
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,680
a preordained kind of outcome. But for Laura, you just

509
00:22:47,759 --> 00:22:50,319
keep the train roll until something comes your way, because

510
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,519
I mean, listen, the featherweight division has a lot of

511
00:22:52,519 --> 00:22:54,599
talent in it right now. Guys are always looking for challengers,

512
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,559
looking for good fighters, looking for opponents, and maybe Mauricio

513
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,200
lar who's still, by the way, only like two eight

514
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,559
years old. He's by no means in my opinion, is

515
00:23:02,559 --> 00:23:04,519
he like a shot fighter. As long as he comes

516
00:23:04,559 --> 00:23:06,880
in shape, he can make the weight. He could still

517
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,200
probably do some damage here in that.

518
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 1: That was the problem in the second fight with Lee

519
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,960
Wood was that he had a weight problem with that

520
00:23:13,079 --> 00:23:14,880
as well. But he's got a name and he's a

521
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,680
former world champion, that's what you're saying.

522
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 3: But in terms of that second league would fight. Yeah,

523
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,400
technically that's correct. He ended up getting stripped to the title,

524
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,400
but that was because the when they did the weight

525
00:23:24,519 --> 00:23:27,559
check that the British Boxing Board of Control felt he

526
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,880
was a little bit too heavy to continue to try

527
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,279
to make the weight and he complained like, look, this

528
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,119
is how I do it, and they didn't let him

529
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,079
make the weight or even he got stripped. So anyway,

530
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,079
here's the main point is this, Laura is still a decent,

531
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,720
good featherweight contender. He went in the ring against you know,

532
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,400
a lesser opponent, obviously beat him up for two rounds,

533
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,680
got the work in and uh should be on standby

534
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:51,400
for anybody that.

535
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,839
Speaker 1: Needs a He's a former world champion with a name,

536
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:54,720
so let's see.

537
00:23:54,759 --> 00:23:56,799
Speaker 3: And he's exciting by the way. That's also he's got

538
00:23:56,799 --> 00:24:00,200
some you know, some uh he's got he's got some

539
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:06,359
some fun style of things he does always fun to watch.

540
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,640
Put it like that, so maybe I'll get another opportunity

541
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:09,279
somewhere on.

542
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 1: We strive to cover it all, including that main event

543
00:24:12,839 --> 00:24:14,200
that was in Mexicans.

544
00:24:13,839 --> 00:24:16,519
Speaker 3: Because of boy Rafael's DVR show.

545
00:24:16,599 --> 00:24:18,880
Speaker 1: Of course you're I expect you to be on it,

546
00:24:19,039 --> 00:24:20,720
just like just like we're going to talk about in

547
00:24:20,759 --> 00:24:22,599
a minute with the inn away press conference, which I'm

548
00:24:22,599 --> 00:24:24,559
sure was all in Japanese and you were all about

549
00:24:24,599 --> 00:24:28,160
it before we get to that though. Next up, Devin

550
00:24:28,319 --> 00:24:32,680
Haney in deep conversation apparently with Rolando Romero for a

551
00:24:32,799 --> 00:24:36,720
unified welterweight title fight. This is not exactly what we

552
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,799
were looking for with either Ryan Garcia or remember Connor

553
00:24:39,839 --> 00:24:43,880
Benn was even calling out Devin Haney, Uh, what are

554
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,200
you hearing on how realistic this is? And when it

555
00:24:47,279 --> 00:24:49,960
is for Hani Romero if it comes off.

556
00:24:50,079 --> 00:24:52,279
Speaker 3: Well, it's very realistic and they're very close to having

557
00:24:52,319 --> 00:24:55,599
a deal. Uh. My boy Lance pug Meyer from Boxing

558
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,599
seen or broke this story. I followed up and have

559
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,240
confirmed what he reported. It is in deep negotiations, if

560
00:25:02,279 --> 00:25:04,559
you will. Roly Romero not making a secret of that.

561
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,359
He has posted to his social media that he has signed, sealed,

562
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,799
and delivered right now and so he's a PBC fighter.

563
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,079
If this all comes about, it will headline a PBC

564
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,680
on Prime Video pay per view at Barclay Center in Brooklyn,

565
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,240
New York, and it will take place on May thirtieth.

566
00:25:19,599 --> 00:25:22,519
So that's the particulars as far as win and where

567
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,839
and how you can see it. Romero again, he said

568
00:25:25,839 --> 00:25:30,319
his part is done. Devin Haney is a free agent promotionally,

569
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,680
and if you take a look at his career, he's

570
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,880
kept himself in his short term deals and has moved around.

571
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,279
He's fought with Eddie Hearn for a while, he was

572
00:25:40,279 --> 00:25:42,519
on his own for a while, he fought with top

573
00:25:42,599 --> 00:25:45,200
Rank for a while. He's done some fights with Turkey,

574
00:25:45,759 --> 00:25:48,119
and now he's a free agent. He just come off.

575
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,920
You know, we don't have to relitigate what happened with

576
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,839
Ryan Garcia the no contest, but since that he has

577
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,279
fought on two Turkey cards. He gave him a Turkey

578
00:25:56,279 --> 00:25:58,640
gave him the fight with Jose Ramirez that was a

579
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,920
part of that Times Square that unfortunately turned out to

580
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,880
be a terrible fight with Jose Ramirez. He won the

581
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,920
decision easily but did not look good. And then, of course,

582
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,680
on that same card, Ryan Garcia loss to Romero in

583
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,680
the regular WBA title fight. It became the only welterweight

584
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,880
title when when NS vacated and decided to move up

585
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:21,200
and wait, so it's so after that performance, it brought

586
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,359
Devin Haney back to challenge Brian Norman for the WBO

587
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,279
belt in November. That was on the card that was

588
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,000
in Saudi Arabia, and he won that fight in very

589
00:26:30,039 --> 00:26:32,839
impressive fashion, scored a knockdown and won that belt. So

590
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,559
now Romero has got the only WBA title. Devon's back

591
00:26:36,599 --> 00:26:39,839
with another title now having won a titlelight welterweight, so

592
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,480
making him a three division champ because he was on

593
00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:46,200
disputed that lightweight. Won the WBC title very impressively against

594
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,119
Regis Progra at one hundred and forty pounds, ended up

595
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,440
vacating it after the Garcia fight. Anyway, it becomes a

596
00:26:51,519 --> 00:26:54,160
unification fight, So you're right though, I mean it may

597
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,039
not be what was in the immediate mind of anybody

598
00:26:57,039 --> 00:26:59,039
that was thinking about how these different matchups in the

599
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,880
division might stack up, But you can't really argue with

600
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,119
the match. I mean, anytime you get a chance to

601
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,599
see two guys who are still really good and you know,

602
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,920
at the top of their games in a unification, what's

603
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,559
wrong with that? So they're gonna they're gonna get that done.

604
00:27:11,559 --> 00:27:14,119
So right now it's down to Hainy and his father,

605
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,960
Bill Haney, who is his manager and his trainer and

606
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,359
obviously his dad trying to finish up the deal with

607
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,559
with the PBC folks. But I suspect that we'll get done.

608
00:27:21,599 --> 00:27:23,880
One thing about Devin. You can complain all you want.

609
00:27:24,319 --> 00:27:25,960
Just look at the track work. The guy fights the

610
00:27:26,039 --> 00:27:28,599
real fights. I mean. So it may not be sign

611
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,960
stealed been delivered on his end yet, but I suspect

612
00:27:31,039 --> 00:27:33,119
it will be. Knowing the way that they do their

613
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,400
business and and the way they lock down their fights.

614
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: And he was much more impressive in getting the WBO

615
00:27:37,799 --> 00:27:40,960
title on that Saudi card against Brian Norman, knock him

616
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,839
down early and it was a better fight for him.

617
00:27:44,319 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 2: So now stay tuned.

618
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,799
Speaker 1: Does this lead to a bigger thing if it comes

619
00:27:47,839 --> 00:27:50,799
off by the one You're being very kind to Roly

620
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,960
Romero on talking about him being, you know, something noteworthy

621
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,599
and all of that. He was just better in the

622
00:27:56,599 --> 00:27:58,519
stink bomb fight with Ryan Garca.

623
00:27:58,599 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 3: I mean, but whatever you think about him, he's got

624
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,839
the belt, he can punch and uh and you want

625
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,200
to see unification fights in the sports, and he did,

626
00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:09,000
and he did beat Ryan Garcia as bad as the

627
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,599
fight was, and he did score a knockdown, so I can,

628
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,640
and he hasn't thought since then, so he's had a

629
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,680
bit of a layoff, whereas Hainey did fight at the

630
00:28:14,759 --> 00:28:17,079
end of last year. The one thing that I'm still

631
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,559
not clear about is I had reported and it wasn't

632
00:28:19,559 --> 00:28:22,359
like anything secret of GILBERTA. Mendoza from the WBA, the

633
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,039
president of the WBA, had told me specifically on a

634
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,640
on a messaging chain that we have that they were

635
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,279
going to order the Romero Geosof mandatory fight, which the

636
00:28:31,319 --> 00:28:34,359
Geosof team has been complaining about because it's so massively overdue.

637
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,039
They want their opportunity. Giosov's the Olympic silver medalists, He's undefeated,

638
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,279
he's fought two eliminators. I mean, what are we doing here?

639
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:41,119
Speaker 2: Uh?

640
00:28:41,359 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 3: He said we're going to order that fight. Two weeks

641
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,720
ago he said, I'm ordering the fight next week. And

642
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,279
there was a bunch of things they were supposed to do.

643
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,960
The week went and came and went, and they never

644
00:28:50,039 --> 00:28:52,359
ordered the fight, or I shouldn't say ordered the fight,

645
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,319
order the purspit, schedule the perspit. So something happened in

646
00:28:56,359 --> 00:28:58,799
there where they were abody to get this fight, probably

647
00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:01,279
approved by the w Ba who would probably approve you

648
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,240
to fight Devin Haney or Roly Romero in any event.

649
00:29:05,559 --> 00:29:06,880
You know, I feel bad for Giosov.

650
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,599
Speaker 2: Well, he either is what it is. It's one of

651
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:10,160
two things.

652
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: Either he got some step aside money or we're going

653
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,480
back to court again and he's gonna appeal and do

654
00:29:14,519 --> 00:29:16,960
whatever and say you passed me over again after you

655
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,680
told me I was getting a shot at this title.

656
00:29:18,839 --> 00:29:21,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, the fighter was ordered. I mean, that's the thing. Listen.

657
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,680
Ginosov's manager is is Vadim Cornelov. Vdeem has a tremendous

658
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,519
stable of fighters, mostly from the former Soviet countries. He's

659
00:29:28,519 --> 00:29:31,400
the manager, for example, of Dmitri Bbl. He's managed, you know,

660
00:29:31,519 --> 00:29:35,720
plenty of top quality fighters through the years. He and

661
00:29:35,759 --> 00:29:38,799
he's a pretty chill kind of guy. Known Vadim ever

662
00:29:38,799 --> 00:29:41,160
since he's been involved in boxing, and I can tell

663
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,400
when I spoke to him the last time about this situation,

664
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,359
he's starting to get a little more irritated than I've

665
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,079
heard him in a long time. So we'll see what

666
00:29:49,119 --> 00:29:52,039
happened with the upshot here is that we're probably gonna

667
00:29:52,079 --> 00:29:55,240
see at the end of May a unification between Hani

668
00:29:55,279 --> 00:29:56,119
and Romero.

669
00:29:55,839 --> 00:29:58,359
Speaker 1: Stay tuned on it getting done. As you like to say,

670
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,200
it is not done at the moment. Only Lamei can

671
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,079
say that his side is done. And again that's the

672
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,680
May thirtieth, at the end of the month. That's all

673
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,079
ways away from us right now at the moment. Let's

674
00:30:09,079 --> 00:30:10,920
see what happens.

675
00:30:10,599 --> 00:30:11,359
Speaker 2: With that, okay.

676
00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: So I mentioned that in a way, and Nakatani had

677
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,400
a press conference, and so backing up in the month

678
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,680
of May, they are slated to fight May the second

679
00:30:19,759 --> 00:30:20,759
in the Tokyo Dome.

680
00:30:20,839 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 2: You're amped about this.

681
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: So Friday, middle of the night, actually Thursday night US time,

682
00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:30,960
Friday midday in Tokyo, they had this press conference.

683
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:31,839
Speaker 2: So tell me more.

684
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: As you watched them talking about this undisputed and one

685
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,079
of the best and one of the best Japanese fights

686
00:30:40,119 --> 00:30:44,039
maybe ever in terms of magnitude and champions.

687
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,359
Speaker 3: Contrary to your assumption, I did not watch this press

688
00:30:47,359 --> 00:30:48,400
carvers in Japanese.

689
00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: You did not watch it. Did you watch it in

690
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,759
the middle of the night live or did you watch

691
00:30:51,799 --> 00:30:52,079
it back?

692
00:30:52,119 --> 00:30:54,359
Speaker 3: I didn't watch the press cards, so I don't understand Japanese,

693
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,839
and they weren't doing real time translations. So what's got

694
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,160
I'll watch boxing matches in any lifeguage. But drus coounbrace

695
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:01,799
as I draw.

696
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,599
Speaker 2: The line, right, I understand.

697
00:31:03,799 --> 00:31:05,799
Speaker 3: But the bottom line on this fight is it's first

698
00:31:05,839 --> 00:31:07,279
of all, the fact that they're doing it on May

699
00:31:07,359 --> 00:31:09,680
second at the Tokyo Dome has been the biggest open

700
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,559
secret in boxing for months. I mean even if you

701
00:31:12,599 --> 00:31:14,920
go back, you know, a year and a half ago.

702
00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:17,000
I mean, obviously they still had fights to do. This

703
00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:18,920
has been sort of on the drawing board for the

704
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,160
better part of like I think, almost two years, frankly,

705
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,720
as they mapped out the possibilities, and it actually has

706
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,920
turned out that they were able to get through everything.

707
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,079
And it almost got up ended at the end of

708
00:31:28,119 --> 00:31:30,720
last year in December when the two fighters run the

709
00:31:30,759 --> 00:31:32,640
same cart in Saudi Arabian in a way, you know,

710
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,200
easily defeated Picasso, but Nakatani had life and death in

711
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,640
his fight, so he had a big swollen eye and

712
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,119
a lot of people thought he didn't to get the victory,

713
00:31:44,119 --> 00:31:46,400
but he did get the win and on they go

714
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,599
to this big title fight. But they had teased it

715
00:31:48,599 --> 00:31:51,319
for a while. They had for example, about a year

716
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,000
or so ago, they had both appeared at the annual

717
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,079
Japanese Boxing Commissions Awards gala, where in a way was

718
00:31:58,119 --> 00:32:01,079
getting his seventh consecutive Fighter of the Year award, and

719
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,440
during his remarks he challenged Knakatani to fight him in

720
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,759
twenty twenty six. Ka Katani was there, He got up,

721
00:32:07,079 --> 00:32:09,039
shook his hand, said let's get you know, let's do

722
00:32:09,079 --> 00:32:11,240
it basically, and you know, just took a little time.

723
00:32:11,279 --> 00:32:12,839
But I think the real reason why it took maybe

724
00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:14,960
a little bit longer than some people may have thought,

725
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,279
wasn't because of any issues between the teams. It's hard, apparently,

726
00:32:18,279 --> 00:32:20,599
from what I've heard from people that were involved, to

727
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,720
get a date at the Tokyo Dome to schedule the fight.

728
00:32:23,759 --> 00:32:25,559
So they had to match up the timing of when

729
00:32:25,559 --> 00:32:29,359
they want to do the fight with an available time

730
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,680
at that big stadium which will have for this fight,

731
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,079
you know, probably around fifty five or so a thousand people.

732
00:32:34,119 --> 00:32:35,839
That's the type of attendance that they can bring in

733
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,880
for that that fight. If this is the same building

734
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,440
where famously Mike Tyson fought against August with the biggest

735
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,519
upset ever knock in a way fought Luis neary there.

736
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,319
You know what a year and a half ago or

737
00:32:47,359 --> 00:32:50,519
so two years ago. That's also where Mike Tyson fought

738
00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:52,559
Tony Tubbs and his first time fighting in Japan. So

739
00:32:52,839 --> 00:32:54,599
it hasn't had a huge amount of boxing, but when

740
00:32:54,599 --> 00:32:56,759
they do it, they're big time fights. You know, undisputed

741
00:32:56,799 --> 00:33:01,039
heavyweight title. Na Katani against Away is a massive fight.

742
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,559
Many people would view it as the biggest fight in

743
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:08,880
all Japanese fighting in the country's history. You have, in

744
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,119
a way pound for pound number one to some people

745
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,240
at worst like two or three undefeated, twenty seven and

746
00:33:14,359 --> 00:33:17,000
zero in world title fights in a row over four

747
00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:20,720
weight classes in undisputed TJ as you know, in two

748
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,079
way classes bandam weight.

749
00:33:22,119 --> 00:33:24,839
Speaker 2: An unanimous first ballot Hall of Famer.

750
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,039
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, you know, you can. I think

751
00:33:28,039 --> 00:33:30,160
a lot of folks would say, you know already he's

752
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,319
the best Japanese fighter of all time. I'm not willing

753
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,559
to say yet he's the best Asian fighter of all time.

754
00:33:35,599 --> 00:33:38,759
I still think that is Manny Pacio's domain, given that

755
00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:41,160
he is Filipino. But the point is he's in rare

756
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,559
air in terms of the all time grace and in

757
00:33:43,599 --> 00:33:46,640
terms of Nakatani, he may not have that level of accomplishment,

758
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,480
but he is a badass. Also also undefeated as one

759
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,039
titles in three weight classes, as unified at bandam weight

760
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,599
two of the titles. Has scored a ton of knockouts.

761
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,319
Really exciting fighter. This is like a can't missfight. I mean,

762
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,039
you know, it's a pay per view in Japan on

763
00:34:00,119 --> 00:34:02,920
their service called Lomino. It will be I am sure

764
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,160
in some capacity available here in the United States. They

765
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,119
did not announce those plans just yet, but it will happen,

766
00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:11,280
I am sure. And this is this is the only

767
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,119
if there's and there I mean, there's no negative about

768
00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:16,920
the fight actually happening. What's what's unfortunate is that it's

769
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,519
gonna be on the same day as when Benavite's and

770
00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:23,119
Zerdo Vermeraz fight may second in Las Vegas, and so

771
00:34:24,039 --> 00:34:26,199
you're gonna have to probably wake up super early in

772
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,920
the morning American time to watch it if you care

773
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,679
to do it lives after maybe you have watched that

774
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,800
really excellent fight between Xerto and and being Venas. It's

775
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,920
like a It's like it couldn't spread it out over

776
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,079
like two big, big fights on the same weekend. I'd

777
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:41,480
rather have it spread out a little bit but that's

778
00:34:41,559 --> 00:34:43,400
me just quibling. I understand the fact that they're having

779
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,760
this fight is tremendous. This is a real big.

780
00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 2: Time within or within sixty days of it happening.

781
00:34:48,119 --> 00:34:50,119
Speaker 1: Just one more joke. I saw this from the press

782
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:53,199
conference video, et cetera. In a way had the five

783
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,679
belts that he was holding up over the two arms,

784
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,199
and I got to thinking, he's got another set of

785
00:34:58,199 --> 00:35:01,039
those five belts as well. When he four belt undisputed,

786
00:35:01,119 --> 00:35:03,159
would he ever bring out like all ten of them

787
00:35:03,159 --> 00:35:04,679
at the same time he did?

788
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 2: He did not do that at this time.

789
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 3: He has those ten belts, but he also has a

790
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,280
belt from the other two weightless. He was a champion.

791
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,920
He remember he was a champion. His first world title

792
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,360
was what at one hundred and eight pounds? He was

793
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,679
a fiveweight champion for uh, you know, for a quick minute,

794
00:35:17,679 --> 00:35:20,000
there's uh, there's any one a time.

795
00:35:20,119 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: What's thes You gotta remember, I got nothing but women

796
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,960
in my house and the estrogen flows and all the

797
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,360
shows they watch and they call it accessorizing. There's access

798
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,440
arizing with the jewelry, the bracelet that matches, maybe a watch, whatever,

799
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,440
and then you've got ten championship belts that you could

800
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,079
hold up from when you were on disputed.

801
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,519
Speaker 3: You only got two hands, though, I don't know that's right.

802
00:35:39,559 --> 00:35:41,039
Speaker 1: You got to you gotta have a lot of fore arms.

803
00:35:41,079 --> 00:35:43,480
You gotta have a lot of the big a lot

804
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,239
of them around the chest. You gotta have the entourage

805
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:49,159
holding them up. You gotta have plenty of uh of

806
00:35:49,159 --> 00:35:52,239
of your posse that's around. So yeah, all right, So

807
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:53,480
we look forward to in a way and.

808
00:35:55,039 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean it's just gonna be. Oh and by

809
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,519
the way, adding to the depth of the card is

810
00:36:00,559 --> 00:36:03,159
you have his brother Takuma in a way, who is

811
00:36:03,199 --> 00:36:06,559
currently the WBC bantamweight champion. This is a title that

812
00:36:06,599 --> 00:36:09,159
his brother used to have and when he vacated eventually

813
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,480
his brother ended up winning it was He's a two

814
00:36:11,519 --> 00:36:13,480
time DANDAM WAIT title holder. He's going to be in

815
00:36:13,519 --> 00:36:16,800
the co feature against your boy Kazuto Ioka, who is

816
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,599
going to be looking for his own history. I mean,

817
00:36:18,639 --> 00:36:20,599
he has moved up through the weight classes as well,

818
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,079
and he's looking to become the first ever five division

819
00:36:24,159 --> 00:36:26,519
champion among men from Japan, which would be a big

820
00:36:27,039 --> 00:36:29,400
for him. As I have said that in the times,

821
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,679
we have discussed Ioka in some of his fights. He's

822
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,559
he's probably a Hall of Famer at this point. I

823
00:36:34,559 --> 00:36:36,920
mean he's he's won the titles, he's being a lot

824
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,920
of good opponents if you follow Japanese boxing or the

825
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,480
best fighters that come out of Asia in those smaller

826
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,719
weight classes. I mean, he has the resume, he has

827
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,880
the accomplishment, and now he's got another chance. I mean,

828
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,719
if he wins that fight and wins that, you know,

829
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,000
makes that history of the fifth title, or rather the

830
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,519
fifth division anyway. I mean that's a pretty big deal.

831
00:36:54,559 --> 00:36:56,360
And it's not like he you know, you can cherry

832
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,400
pick titles in boxing at times. I don't consider Takum

833
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,800
in a way to be an opponent that you're cherry

834
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,280
picking against. He's a really good fighter. He's probably, you know,

835
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,000
at worst, like the second best band of way in

836
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,800
the world right now, maybe the third at worst. So

837
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,440
that's another really good fight for the card. And the

838
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,119
thing about is over if you look at the recent

839
00:37:13,199 --> 00:37:16,159
years since they've both been at championship level, the two

840
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,760
brothers have not typically fought on the same show together.

841
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,880
It's going to keep their dad, Shingo, who's their trainer,

842
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:21,800
awfully busy that night.

843
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: There you go for May second. Okay, a couple of

844
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,880
other news items. We did talk leading into the weekend

845
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,800
about the upcoming press conference that was to be had

846
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,760
in New York on Friday with Most Valuable Promotions in

847
00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:38,800
ESPN striking a deal. We knew about Alicia Bombgardner being

848
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,159
involved with a title defense, but it turns out they

849
00:37:41,199 --> 00:37:43,960
have rolled out a full fledged announcement of a long

850
00:37:44,079 --> 00:37:50,840
term relationship with ESPN, MVP and Women's Boxing. So elaborate

851
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,639
on what was announced, including the two cards that will

852
00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:56,159
be coming up in April and May, and heavily featured.

853
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,639
Speaker 3: So when I wrote about this the other day and

854
00:37:59,159 --> 00:38:01,159
posted on social medie, I knew that they were doing

855
00:38:01,159 --> 00:38:03,039
a deal with ESPN. It was sort of being it

856
00:38:03,039 --> 00:38:04,679
was actually a very well kept secret of doing know

857
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,760
the truth. I did break that story that bomb Gardner's

858
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:13,679
fight against the Korean fighter bo Me Ray Shin, who

859
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,679
gave Caroline Dubois a really good fight, challenging her for

860
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,360
the lightweight title a couple of fights ago, that that

861
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:20,800
would be her opponent. It would take place at the

862
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,760
Madison Square Garden Theater, and it was part of a

863
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:28,159
deal between MVP and ESPN that would cover multiple fights.

864
00:38:28,159 --> 00:38:30,039
I didn't know the exact length of the term, how

865
00:38:30,079 --> 00:38:32,519
many events. As it turned out, it's a three year

866
00:38:32,559 --> 00:38:36,440
deal to feature these events. It will start with well,

867
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,639
actually it doesn't start with the Bomb Gardner fight. What

868
00:38:38,679 --> 00:38:40,519
it will do is it will start with their MVP

869
00:38:40,639 --> 00:38:43,239
has a cart on April fifth that was already announced

870
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,960
that's taking place in London that is headlined by Caroline

871
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,639
Dubi defending her lightweight title, which they made a thing

872
00:38:48,679 --> 00:38:51,280
about how it's going to be on Sky Sports in

873
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,239
the UK, but it will also be on the ESPN

874
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:55,880
platforms here in the United States. I believe that is

875
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,400
an ESPN Plus only cart, but the other events that

876
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,280
they are announcing are going to be also on main

877
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,119
ESPN network as well as ESPN Plus, So they'll be back.

878
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,920
They'll be live boxing back on linear television. How about

879
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:11,039
that linear English television which doesn't exist at the moment

880
00:39:11,559 --> 00:39:13,599
since the Top Rank deal ended. And if you take

881
00:39:13,599 --> 00:39:16,239
a look at Mattrum and Golden Boy and anybody else

882
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,559
that's goott boxing in America, they're all on streaming services.

883
00:39:18,559 --> 00:39:20,800
Top Rank doesn't have a deal presently, and everything else

884
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,800
is pretty much on the z own er on Prime Video,

885
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,639
which is also streaming anyway. So this is part of

886
00:39:26,679 --> 00:39:30,920
the ESPN the launching of this new window of doing

887
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,920
focusing on female sports, female athletics, not just boxing, but

888
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,320
they'll do basketball Sunday.

889
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: Sunday nights now have a void because for thirty six years,

890
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,039
yes baseball, they did baseball. They don't have it anymore

891
00:39:44,119 --> 00:39:47,119
Major League Baseball. So they have said they're going to

892
00:39:47,199 --> 00:39:51,039
have various things like the WNBA provided they play a

893
00:39:51,079 --> 00:39:54,679
season because they're having a labor dispute. But like college

894
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,360
women's softball is very prominent when they get into their postseason,

895
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,599
that's going to be featured on Sunday night. This boxing,

896
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:06,320
other sports, the women's NCAA tournament as well has Sunday

897
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,480
night games. So they're gonna do different things with different

898
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,960
women's sports. So, I mean, again it's worth emphasizing they're

899
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,679
talking about not on ESPN Plus. They're talking about ESPN

900
00:40:18,079 --> 00:40:21,320
or these fight cards the regular linear network.

901
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 3: The same way you would watch Coop Ranks cards on

902
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,000
regular So the first one is only on the ESPN

903
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,000
Unlimited or ESPN Plus.

904
00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:30,199
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, right, So that's that's.

905
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 3: The main event for that one. That's Duboi against Terry Harper.

906
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,559
That's a good fight if you follow Women's Box and

907
00:40:34,559 --> 00:40:36,599
he got Ellie Scott and he also on that show,

908
00:40:36,639 --> 00:40:39,760
So that's on. That's the first show, that's in early April,

909
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,360
and then you have the second one, which is on

910
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,400
the seventeenth. That's the card that we were talking about

911
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,079
the other night. That's Bomb Garner again Shin and also

912
00:40:46,119 --> 00:40:50,079
they'll have the Unified Super mid Away title their shadez

913
00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:52,840
Agreen who's also with MVP. She's defending her title against

914
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,440
Lanny Daniels, who recently lost to Claressa Shields. And then

915
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,119
the third fight, this will also be on both ESPN

916
00:40:59,159 --> 00:41:02,679
and ESPN Plus. This is going to take place in Albuquerque,

917
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,880
New Mexico. It is the rematch between Stephanie Han and

918
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,599
Holly Holm for the WBA Lightweight Women's title. They fought,

919
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,159
you know, back you know, I don't know, a couple

920
00:41:11,199 --> 00:41:13,320
of months ago, and that's just the beginning of what

921
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:14,840
we'll like, I don't know if they didn't really save

922
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,159
it's going to be every month or whatever, but it's

923
00:41:17,199 --> 00:41:19,679
going to be a lot of cards from the start

924
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,400
in April through the end of twenty twenty eight. So

925
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,880
it's a three years deal twenty six, twenty seven to

926
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,679
twenty eight. And look, you have to give credit to

927
00:41:27,679 --> 00:41:31,360
the MVP folks. I mean, they saw an area where

928
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,320
they could basically dominate because nobody else had really taken

929
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,159
the bowl by the horn, so to speak, to try

930
00:41:37,159 --> 00:41:39,960
to you know, round up, if you will, a lot

931
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,599
of the top female athletes and the top female champions and.

932
00:41:43,639 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 1: Pay them substantially, by the way, substantially more than they've

933
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,760
been making elsewhere. That's how they've been able to round

934
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:49,599
them up exactly right.

935
00:41:49,679 --> 00:41:53,079
Speaker 3: So because of Jake Paul's popularity and his his juice

936
00:41:53,079 --> 00:41:55,280
if you will, and his fights that he did, he

937
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,920
was able to bring a lot of attention to the

938
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,559
women's fights that he chose to be involved with. Obviously,

939
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,639
the main one that everybody knows and loves, of course,

940
00:42:04,679 --> 00:42:07,960
were the fights between a man the Serrano and Katie Taylor,

941
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,519
and that led to Netflix doing an entire women's only card.

942
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,840
It led to them having two you know the uh well,

943
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,559
the second card of Serrano and Taylor was on the

944
00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:22,239
Mike Tyson Jake undercard, correct like the other one headlined

945
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,079
its own show for the first time ever, having women

946
00:42:24,159 --> 00:42:26,480
headline at the Garden. The third one also was the

947
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,239
main event at the Garden that was the Netflix All

948
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,960
Women's Cards, So and as they were going along doing that,

949
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,519
they were signing other talent. And they've done and been

950
00:42:33,519 --> 00:42:36,920
involved with a number of top women's fights, and they have.

951
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,079
Speaker 1: She was on the she was on the Anthony Joshua

952
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,880
Jake Paul undercard, and I'm trying to remember it wasn't

953
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,159
Caroline Dubois also a late ad on that.

954
00:42:47,159 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 2: They were both on that card.

955
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: So here again there was method to the madness all

956
00:42:52,199 --> 00:42:54,920
along of give them a lot of attention on the

957
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,639
Netflix show and then.

958
00:42:58,079 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 3: You can give them all the attention they want, but

959
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,960
the women have to deliver, correct and when women like

960
00:43:02,039 --> 00:43:04,320
Katie Taylor and Toronto deliver the way they did in

961
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,320
the first couple of fights, and we've seen some other

962
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,719
like for example, when Shadeza Green fought uh and that

963
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,159
was also one of the undercard fights she fought Savannah Marshall.

964
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,000
Myself and a lot of other people picked it as

965
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,239
a twenty twenty five Women's Fight of the Year. So

966
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,079
you know, if they don't deliver, then nobody's gonna be

967
00:43:20,119 --> 00:43:22,519
a shit or want to watch them. But fortunately the

968
00:43:22,599 --> 00:43:26,079
women have in many respects delivered good action. What's interesting

969
00:43:26,079 --> 00:43:28,280
about Bombgarner if you mentioned the fights she had on

970
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:32,400
that card recently, that was a an unusual scenario where

971
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,559
they didn't just h She didn't just opt for the

972
00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:38,159
three minute rounds for women under which is the men's rule.

973
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,679
They also did twelve rounds. I didn't think that was

974
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,159
necessarily given the calimber of her opponent. Not to say

975
00:43:43,159 --> 00:43:45,559
that Bombgarner can't do that. This fight that she's going

976
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:49,000
to have coming up headlining the show against Shin, that

977
00:43:49,039 --> 00:43:52,719
will be a ten round normal Women's Championship gotcha length,

978
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,119
but it will be three minute rounds.

979
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, Okay, so two minute rounds will still be

980
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:57,960
three minute rounds.

981
00:43:57,679 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 3: But it won't be twelve rounds exactly.

982
00:43:59,360 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: It won't be twelve.

983
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 3: So she like she followed Katie Taylor Man of Serrano

984
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,719
by giving up her WBC title. Bomb Gunner did because

985
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,960
she was undisputed. Now she's got the three belts, but

986
00:44:11,039 --> 00:44:13,519
she gave up the BC title because the WBC has

987
00:44:13,559 --> 00:44:16,239
its policy that they're not gonna approve.

988
00:44:16,639 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 1: They got to get over themselves if the fighters want this,

989
00:44:19,519 --> 00:44:21,519
and the fighters are demonstrating that they can handle it.

990
00:44:21,519 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 2: Then they got to get over themselves. Are the only

991
00:44:23,159 --> 00:44:24,760
ones the WBC.

992
00:44:25,039 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 3: You know, you can agree or disagree. They say that

993
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,360
they're medical people and they take this. I know this

994
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,159
because I've had numerous conversations on a personal level with

995
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,599
Mercier solmuch. They take it very seriously, and uh, it

996
00:44:35,679 --> 00:44:38,199
is their medical people's opinion that it should not be

997
00:44:38,599 --> 00:44:41,480
the longer distance or the longer rounds for female fighters,

998
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:45,480
and so they respectfully decided not to approve those fights.

999
00:44:45,519 --> 00:44:47,960
The boxers who've given up those titles, in particular Serrano

1000
00:44:48,159 --> 00:44:50,199
and bomb Garner, have said thank you for the opportunity,

1001
00:44:50,199 --> 00:44:51,719
but I'm going to go my own way, and they

1002
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,519
gave up the belts, so she's gonna fend her other

1003
00:44:53,519 --> 00:44:55,840
three titles. I mean, she obviously is established herself as

1004
00:44:56,199 --> 00:44:58,559
number one in that weight class. And hopefully they can

1005
00:44:58,639 --> 00:45:01,199
deliver the goods and seventeenth.

1006
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,079
Speaker 1: Again April and then May, and then we'll see what

1007
00:45:03,119 --> 00:45:05,960
they announced in the in the coming months and for

1008
00:45:06,039 --> 00:45:10,840
later on in the year with MVP in that new relationship. Okay,

1009
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,159
because we've been here a bit, a couple more quick items.

1010
00:45:13,159 --> 00:45:18,320
The WBC says that junior welterweight champion Dalton Smith needs

1011
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:22,480
to fight mandatory challenger Albert POEO. Okay, so give me

1012
00:45:22,599 --> 00:45:24,599
give me the latest on the timeline of when this

1013
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,840
fight has a purse bid and what we look forward

1014
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,800
to happening and how soon we can possibly see it

1015
00:45:30,039 --> 00:45:30,559
in that regarding.

1016
00:45:30,639 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 3: So they ordered a few days ago. They ordered on

1017
00:45:32,559 --> 00:45:36,440
this past Wednesday. Dalton Smith came to America a few

1018
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,159
months ago and had a very spectacular victory and a great,

1019
00:45:39,199 --> 00:45:42,800
great fight against Surbril Mattias at Barclay Center. He won

1020
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,360
the WBC one hundred and forty pound title. Really good fight,

1021
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,679
like I said, and I think that he knew that

1022
00:45:49,679 --> 00:45:51,239
he would probably have to make the manager. I didn't

1023
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:52,199
know if they were going to try to get an

1024
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,280
exception or not. I guess they did or I'm not

1025
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,480
sure if they tried. But any event, the fight was ordered.

1026
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,320
They have thirty d eight. This is this is standard.

1027
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,679
They have thirty to negotiate the deal. If they don't

1028
00:46:01,679 --> 00:46:03,360
make a deal, there will be a purse fit on

1029
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,119
April third, and he'll be taken on Toyo, who is

1030
00:46:07,159 --> 00:46:11,480
the former titlelder. He's the guy who lost the belt.

1031
00:46:11,519 --> 00:46:13,039
In the first. You know, he when the first time

1032
00:46:13,039 --> 00:46:15,800
he had the belt he lost it to Mattias. That

1033
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,639
was a fight that took place last July on one

1034
00:46:18,679 --> 00:46:20,960
of Turkey's cards, that took place in New York City.

1035
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,239
That was on the card that had sha Cour Stevens

1036
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,400
and Williams of Paida as well as just Shiraz against Berlanga.

1037
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,039
The only thing that bugs me about it, and you know,

1038
00:46:29,159 --> 00:46:31,360
Toyo was a good fighter. He's twenty four and one. Obviously,

1039
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,079
he's been fighting at the top level for the last

1040
00:46:33,119 --> 00:46:37,760
several years. He lost that fight. It wasn't controversial when

1041
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,599
he lost. The title was close, but it wasn't like

1042
00:46:39,639 --> 00:46:42,599
a disputed type of thing. He hasn't fought since then,

1043
00:46:43,079 --> 00:46:45,199
and now he's still number one and getting the mandatory.

1044
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,480
That's the kind of thing that drives me all bad.

1045
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,800
He about boxing. The guy can come off a loss

1046
00:46:50,159 --> 00:46:53,199
of the title without real controversy. It wasn't like the

1047
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,360
kind of fight where fans were demanding a rematch or

1048
00:46:55,599 --> 00:46:57,039
it was such a great fight you wanted to see

1049
00:46:57,039 --> 00:47:00,719
the guy right back immediately. Meanwhile, Dalton Smith is you know,

1050
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,880
a big time victory, very exciting, a big a knockout

1051
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:04,800
an upset.

1052
00:47:04,519 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 2: For their career defining moment, no exaggeration.

1053
00:47:08,559 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 3: Instead of letting him do something else or having a better,

1054
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,280
better deserving mandatory in place, you're basically sticking this fight

1055
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,000
down his throat. He doesn't have a choice, and now

1056
00:47:17,039 --> 00:47:19,360
he's not the type of fighter I mean his whole

1057
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:20,920
I mean, if you watched the first when when he

1058
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,800
won the title, you know the fact that he won

1059
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,119
this WB's title was like a crowning moment of his life.

1060
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,159
You know, that's what he dreamed about since he's a kid.

1061
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,400
I concerningly appreciate. I've talked to with a thousand fighters

1062
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,840
where that's their dream, specifically to win the Green and

1063
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:35,039
Gold belt. But it's just you know, again, I'm not

1064
00:47:35,079 --> 00:47:36,880
I'm not saying poo is not good and it's not

1065
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,559
like if it was an optional defense, fine, I guess,

1066
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,599
but to make it that, it has to be this

1067
00:47:41,679 --> 00:47:43,239
guy or you're not gonna have your belt. I got

1068
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:44,440
a problem with that, you know what I mean.

1069
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,119
Speaker 1: They do whatever they want, They do whatever they want,

1070
00:47:47,119 --> 00:47:49,039
So stay tuned on that. I know you'll be on

1071
00:47:49,119 --> 00:47:51,239
top of whenever that per s bid happens or not,

1072
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:52,840
or do they do a deal beforehand. You can do

1073
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,840
a deal, and more than likely it's going to be

1074
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,880
a Matchroom deal for Dalton Smith to fight Playo in England.

1075
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,760
That's where the commercial viability of that thing probably comes in.

1076
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,039
Speaker 2: Tatooed with PBC. I mean, if it comes in.

1077
00:48:04,159 --> 00:48:05,559
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't I think. I mean, look, if

1078
00:48:05,559 --> 00:48:09,800
they Mattroom would have the much larger percentage of the

1079
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,000
per spit if it went that. If it went that way,

1080
00:48:12,199 --> 00:48:14,559
and certainly they know that they can for a homecoming

1081
00:48:15,159 --> 00:48:17,239
before his first defense, can do a big gate there.

1082
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,440
So it would you never know for sure, but it

1083
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,360
would seem likely that that whether a ghost to a

1084
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,320
person or they make a deal, then it will wind

1085
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,360
up in the UK and Dalton Smith will have the homecoming.

1086
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 2: There you go. One more note.

1087
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: Mario Barrio's fresh off of being whitewashed by Ryan Garcia,

1088
00:48:33,159 --> 00:48:35,719
says he's done at welter weight and is going to

1089
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:36,360
move up.

1090
00:48:38,119 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 2: A lot's going on at.

1091
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,519
Speaker 1: Junior middleweight at one fifty four, and he's got a name.

1092
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,000
But again we keep coming back to this. I'm just

1093
00:48:46,039 --> 00:48:49,000
teeing this up for you that every big fight he's

1094
00:48:49,039 --> 00:48:52,199
been in he's not had his hand raised basically.

1095
00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 3: So his hand raised and his opponents hand.

1096
00:48:55,039 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 1: Right, that's true simultaneously in a draw like with Avl

1097
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,320
ramos On that undercart of and.

1098
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 2: Many pack if and Manny Pakia. So anyway, Mario's moving

1099
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:04,559
up shoup on that.

1100
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,159
Speaker 3: Yeah. So Mario had one of the guys that he

1101
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,119
was that he's buddies with, who was one of his

1102
00:49:09,119 --> 00:49:12,639
sparring partners, to help him prepare for the Ryan Garcia fight,

1103
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,519
like a club fighter kid named osmel Avala, a welterweight.

1104
00:49:16,559 --> 00:49:19,320
So he was appearing on the Country Box club card.

1105
00:49:19,639 --> 00:49:22,440
That's a regular so they do in Nashville. They're free

1106
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,840
to watch on Triller Plus. And so he was a

1107
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,960
guest there and they did a brief interview with Mario

1108
00:49:27,039 --> 00:49:29,360
between the fights right before his guy was to do

1109
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,840
his fight, which his guy won by the way, a

1110
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,400
four rounder, and was asked by the ring announcer when

1111
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:35,760
they were doing this short interview, you know, what are

1112
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,079
your plans? You know obviously you know they already knows

1113
00:49:38,079 --> 00:49:41,039
he lost that fight so badly to Ryan. Last month

1114
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:42,800
he said he was moving up to one fifty four,

1115
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,400
which I can't say is a surprise. He's kind of

1116
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,639
run his course at welterweight didn't really seem like there's

1117
00:49:46,639 --> 00:49:48,360
some other big fight out there for him. He's fought

1118
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,400
a lot of good fighters in the welterweight division, and

1119
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,760
you made the point, probably one of the lawyers of

1120
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,639
going to one fifty four is it's such a good

1121
00:49:54,639 --> 00:49:57,320
division right now that even if he doesn't get like

1122
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,760
an immediate title shot, which he probably won't or anything

1123
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,679
like that, there's the ability to be involved in fights

1124
00:50:02,679 --> 00:50:04,719
because you do have a name. If you're Mario Barris,

1125
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,519
you are a former champion, you have fought a lot

1126
00:50:07,519 --> 00:50:10,800
of good fighters. People will think you are vulnerable and beatable,

1127
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,840
so you'll be attractive as an opponent. And he can

1128
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,280
probably continue on to make money in ava cern, you know,

1129
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,079
maybe pull off the upset here or there, because, like

1130
00:50:17,079 --> 00:50:20,400
I said, it is a talent rich division in terms

1131
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,679
of the fighters that are present, whether it's John Ennis

1132
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:27,119
or Virgil Ortiz or Sebastian Vandora or Tim Zu or

1133
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:32,000
now Keith Thurman or or Xander Zaias who's unified Josh Kelly. Anyway,

1134
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,320
he's gonna try to try his hand in that way

1135
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:35,719
and see what he can do.

1136
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 1: All right, So we began at the beginning here with

1137
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,559
Jaio Pataia and this whole situation with him winning but

1138
00:50:44,679 --> 00:50:48,920
no longer having the IBF belt, and that leads us

1139
00:50:49,159 --> 00:50:50,559
now into this week.

1140
00:50:50,639 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 2: We give you plenty of fight news, etc.

1141
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,519
Speaker 1: I will say to you, coming off the birthday here,

1142
00:50:55,559 --> 00:50:58,480
I'm headed to Indianapolis, the heartland of America, to do

1143
00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:02,119
college basketball midweek. You and I will reconvene and do

1144
00:51:02,199 --> 00:51:06,199
a preview pod. I'll come home briefly in the middle

1145
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,639
of the week, back to my home in West central Florida,

1146
00:51:08,679 --> 00:51:11,079
Big Dan, and then head to Las Vegas. Not for

1147
00:51:11,159 --> 00:51:14,639
boxing like where ji Opataiah was fighting this title fight

1148
00:51:14,679 --> 00:51:16,960
in air quotes, but I got more college basketball on

1149
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,920
the weekend. So I got basketball, I got Rayfael and

1150
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:20,679
the boxing.

1151
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 2: In the middle.

1152
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 3: Why is it a quotes?

1153
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,679
Speaker 1: And then and then I'm back doing more boxing on

1154
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,760
the weekend air quotes.

1155
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 2: What do you mean?

1156
00:51:28,079 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 3: He's the lineal champ. He's the man who beat the man.

1157
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 2: I don't understand that. But he's no longer the IBF champ.

1158
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: I get my boxing in the middle with you later

1159
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,559
on in the week. So I got some hoops in Indianapolis,

1160
00:51:38,559 --> 00:51:42,599
some boxing with you, and then more basketball in Las

1161
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,480
Vegas as this as this weekend unfold. It's a busy,

1162
00:51:45,519 --> 00:51:48,239
busy week for me. They need to stay locked in

1163
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,400
on your substack, the Fight Freaks Unit substack, the newsletter

1164
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,880
for the latest, your social media and other than that.

1165
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:56,199
Speaker 2: In the middle of the night Sunday night.

1166
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: It was a little later tonight, but we put the

1167
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,000
pod to bed after the Opataia win and all controversy,

1168
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,159
Big Dan, thank you, have a good week.

1169
00:52:03,559 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 3: All right, birthday bood?

1170
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 2: All right, I'm merely TJ Reeves.

1171
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:11,039
Speaker 1: Birthday or not, We press on here on this edition

1172
00:52:11,079 --> 00:52:13,079
of the Fight Freaks Unit Recap podcast