Speaker 1: Well, God and Jesus and Satan have just been replaced
Speaker 1: with extraterrestrials. Do you do you agree with that statement?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, And you know, we from the Christian perspective
Speaker 2: or Judeo Christianity, we can pull back into the Old
Speaker 2: Testament and read what those people were seeing, which you know,
Speaker 2: they weren't exactly the most technological in one aspect, and
Speaker 2: so they're seeing technology that they didn't understand, and so
Speaker 2: they described it what they've seen. And I know at
Speaker 2: least five different references in the Old Testament, particularly that
Speaker 2: gives direct references to spaceships beings in them.
Speaker 1: There's an article that came out the other day that
Speaker 1: I sent to you from the Daily Star that reads
Speaker 1: that the Pentagon halted research into UFOs over fears that
Speaker 1: UFOs were demons. And when I saw this, I immediately sent
Speaker 1: it to you and I was blown away. And here
Speaker 1: in a second, here, let me pull up this article.
Speaker 1: If the computer and the AI gods will let me
Speaker 1: bring up these freaking articles and do things properly. Here, okay,
Speaker 1: Bible reading Pentagon commanders halted UFO researcher research over fears
Speaker 1: aliens were demons. A major figure in the Pentagon's UFO
Speaker 1: Research agency, claims that fundamentalists Christians within the establishment blocked
Speaker 1: him because they thought UFOs come from Hell. What a statement.
Speaker 1: That is wayane. Pentagon commanders have clamped down on research
Speaker 1: into extraterrestrials because the religious beliefs, It's claimed leading UFO
Speaker 1: researcher Ron James, major senior figures in the US government,
Speaker 1: fear aliens are in fact demons. Ron, who was the
Speaker 1: director of media relations for UFO Research Group Moufon, claims
Speaker 1: that there is a very large amount of people within
Speaker 1: the Pentagon who opposed the work of Advanced Aerospace Threat
Speaker 1: At Identification Program a TIP because they think UAP is
Speaker 1: regularly reported by the United States sources. US military sources
Speaker 1: are piloted by creatures from how yep, So that's the
Speaker 1: that's basically the article there. You know, how far back
Speaker 1: in time? Can we go with this whole thing? Wayne,
Speaker 1: give me a break. Demons? What even is a demon? Right?
Speaker 1: Can anyone define what a demon is and how they
Speaker 1: operate in what they are or if and why they
Speaker 1: even exist?
Speaker 2: Well, if you're mixing you know theologies here. But in
Speaker 2: Revelation it says and states that you know, the the
Speaker 2: demons are the fallen angels that were the result of
Speaker 2: that unholy birth or sexual intercourse between these aliens. These
Speaker 2: these angels that they mated with women, they produced an
Speaker 2: offspring known as the Nephelin, the giants. These according to
Speaker 2: the Book of Enoch, God said I had nothing to
Speaker 2: do with them. I did not create them. Therefore I
Speaker 2: have no responsibility over them, and it basically cursed them
Speaker 2: to earth. And if you go further into the occult,
Speaker 2: it is that group, that special class of beings that
Speaker 2: are forever damned walking the face of the earth, and
Speaker 2: then that's how you get into these are in fact
Speaker 2: the demons, which were initially the angels. One third of
Speaker 2: the heavens fell followed Satan and that was called the
Speaker 2: first Revolt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really interesting. But I think that this article
Speaker 1: just proves that the Pentagon doesn't believe in extra tresturials either,
Speaker 1: because they're labeling this something from mythology that has no
Speaker 1: proof of existing, and the easiest explanation is to lump
Speaker 1: it into the lump extra trestrials and UFOs into the
Speaker 1: spiritual category or the consciousness category, just like demons, angels,
Speaker 1: Jesus and God are in right, and that explains a
Speaker 1: way why no one ever sees them, because it's a
Speaker 1: spiritual phenomenon and a consciousness phenomenon, not a physical one.
Speaker 1: But they're there wayane right, they're there. Just trust me.
Speaker 1: They're there, but you can't see them because they're on
Speaker 1: a higher vibratory rate.
Speaker 2: How can they say that, writer, when they're saying that,
Speaker 2: you know, it's these mythological beings that the book of Zachariah,
Speaker 2: chapter twelve. I believe he's standing there with his angel.
Speaker 2: They're on this cliff, and as he looked in the
Speaker 2: direction of Sumer. That's what it says that the flying
Speaker 2: carpet scroll came and was hovering right with them. There
Speaker 2: were two pilots. They were females, and there was an
Speaker 2: individual in the center, and the Zachariah the prophet asked
Speaker 2: the angel who and what is this? And he said,
Speaker 2: these are the people from Sumer. So it's very and listen,
Speaker 2: let's go back all the way into the Vedic the
Speaker 2: Hindu beliefs. The vashrams are the flying craft that they had.
Speaker 2: We know that there were phramas, excuse me, three different
Speaker 2: classes of those, one that moved material, one that moved royalty,
Speaker 2: and one that moved people. So where did these people go?
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, and and and if you study demonology, well, really,
Speaker 2: what you're talking about is that these are the masters
Speaker 2: of technology. I mean, if you think six thousand years
Speaker 2: ago when these prophets were writing this stuff on these accounters, well,
Speaker 2: are you telling me that they didn't understand about aerodynamics
Speaker 2: and understand about magnetism, gravitational forces.
Speaker 3: And what have you.
Speaker 2: Apparently they did. We didn't. But that's why we are
Speaker 2: so mesmerized. Can I get back to that article about
Speaker 2: the Pentagon? What I find frightening about this is.
Speaker 3: That if that is the mindset of these cats that
Speaker 3: are supposedly defenders, we hope of the United States, right,
Speaker 3: they're supposed to be the defenders of us, And what
Speaker 3: they're saying is that they don't want to pursue a
Speaker 3: research of science.
Speaker 2: Because they think that this is already demonic Wright Or
Speaker 2: maybe it's just me. I mean, I'm sixty eight and
Speaker 2: you know, still feel very young. But I look at
Speaker 2: this and I go, how regressed are we? I mean,
Speaker 2: you're talking about concepts of what you and I were
Speaker 2: talking about what they found on the pictographs, apparently as
Speaker 2: the children of Israel were making it through the desert.
Speaker 2: This is really what we're saying, is that that's what
Speaker 2: we really think is going on here. That's frightening.
Speaker 1: It is really frightening. And let's just say, hypothetically, what
Speaker 1: would you think a demon would be? Just mentioned that
Speaker 1: they're technologically advanced. Now, before you answer, we need to
Speaker 1: take away all of the religious programming and all the
Speaker 1: thoughts and ideas others have placed through TV and movies
Speaker 1: and possession horror films, and take away the Hollywood interpretation
Speaker 1: of being possessed by demons. What are they? If they exist? Mean,
Speaker 1: by my.
Speaker 2: Definition, they're multi dimensional beings. They have the ability to
Speaker 2: coexist in multiple dimensions, having the ability to and this
Speaker 2: just sounds a little strange. If their energy, which has
Speaker 2: a non physical form, well that's kind of proving wrong
Speaker 2: because then it shows that these beings are probably mortal.
Speaker 2: Most likely they can die just like we can. They
Speaker 2: have the ability to be longer lived. I happen to
Speaker 2: think they've been here for a very long long time.
Speaker 2: And this is where we get the stories of the reptilians.
Speaker 2: We get the story of the snake in the garden
Speaker 2: of eating the whole idea, because if you believe that,
Speaker 2: then you have to also believe that there were talking
Speaker 2: animals back then.
Speaker 1: I think I take a little more fundamentalist aspect toward
Speaker 1: what I think demons are. I think the demons are
Speaker 1: a thought form.
Speaker 2: A nigger gore.
Speaker 1: Well. I think the demons are the voice that's inside
Speaker 1: your head, whispering negativity in your ear, telling you that
Speaker 1: you aren't good enough, telling you that you can never
Speaker 1: make anything of your life, constantly berating you with failure, right,
Speaker 1: telling you that you're stupid, that you shouldn't believe in yourself.
Speaker 1: That's what I think demons are. And I think that
Speaker 1: when some people believe that negative voice, they never take chances,
Speaker 1: They don't speak their mind, they don't stand up for themselves.
Speaker 1: They get stuck in a rut that they can't seem
Speaker 1: to get out of, no matter how hard they try.
Speaker 1: But that voice inside your head is wrong. Right, You
Speaker 1: have the power to overcome those negative thoughts. But not
Speaker 1: only do they battle. Not only do you battle with
Speaker 1: your own negativity, but you also have to battle other
Speaker 1: people's negativity. Right, because other people try and insert those
Speaker 1: negative thought forms into your head as well, that try
Speaker 1: and break down that door of positivity and put those
Speaker 1: demons into your head through negativity, right, and you ponder
Speaker 1: on it and you start to believe in that negativity.
Speaker 1: That's the back door that I think demons use. If
Speaker 1: they can't get to you directly, they will use others
Speaker 1: to try and break down that barrier inside of your mind.
Speaker 1: And these negative thoughts can get so bad and so
Speaker 1: in such extreme forms that it looks like that it's
Speaker 1: demonic possession, but in reality it takes on the form
Speaker 1: of extreme mental illness.