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<v Speaker 1>Well, God and Jesus and Satan have just been replaced

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<v Speaker 1>with extraterrestrials. Do you do you agree with that statement?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Absolutely, And you know, we from the Christian perspective

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<v Speaker 2>or Judeo Christianity, we can pull back into the Old

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<v Speaker 2>Testament and read what those people were seeing, which you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they weren't exactly the most technological in one aspect, and

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<v Speaker 2>so they're seeing technology that they didn't understand, and so

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<v Speaker 2>they described it what they've seen. And I know at

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<v Speaker 2>least five different references in the Old Testament, particularly that

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<v Speaker 2>gives direct references to spaceships beings in them.

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<v Speaker 1>There's an article that came out the other day that

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<v Speaker 1>I sent to you from the Daily Star that reads

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<v Speaker 1>that the Pentagon halted research into UFOs over fears that

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<v Speaker 1>UFOs were demons. And when I saw this, I immediately sent

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<v Speaker 1>it to you and I was blown away. And here

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<v Speaker 1>in a second, here, let me pull up this article.

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<v Speaker 1>If the computer and the AI gods will let me

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<v Speaker 1>bring up these freaking articles and do things properly. Here, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Bible reading Pentagon commanders halted UFO researcher research over fears

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<v Speaker 1>aliens were demons. A major figure in the Pentagon's UFO

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<v Speaker 1>Research agency, claims that fundamentalists Christians within the establishment blocked

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<v Speaker 1>him because they thought UFOs come from Hell. What a statement.

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<v Speaker 1>That is wayane. Pentagon commanders have clamped down on research

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<v Speaker 1>into extraterrestrials because the religious beliefs, It's claimed leading UFO

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<v Speaker 1>researcher Ron James, major senior figures in the US government,

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<v Speaker 1>fear aliens are in fact demons. Ron, who was the

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<v Speaker 1>director of media relations for UFO Research Group Moufon, claims

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<v Speaker 1>that there is a very large amount of people within

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<v Speaker 1>the Pentagon who opposed the work of Advanced Aerospace Threat

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<v Speaker 1>At Identification Program a TIP because they think UAP is

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<v Speaker 1>regularly reported by the United States sources. US military sources

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<v Speaker 1>are piloted by creatures from how yep, So that's the

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<v Speaker 1>that's basically the article there. You know, how far back

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<v Speaker 1>in time? Can we go with this whole thing? Wayne,

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<v Speaker 1>give me a break. Demons? What even is a demon? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Can anyone define what a demon is and how they

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<v Speaker 1>operate in what they are or if and why they

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<v Speaker 1>even exist?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you're mixing you know theologies here. But in

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<v Speaker 2>Revelation it says and states that you know, the the

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<v Speaker 2>demons are the fallen angels that were the result of

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<v Speaker 2>that unholy birth or sexual intercourse between these aliens. These

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<v Speaker 2>these angels that they mated with women, they produced an

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<v Speaker 2>offspring known as the Nephelin, the giants. These according to

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<v Speaker 2>the Book of Enoch, God said I had nothing to

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<v Speaker 2>do with them. I did not create them. Therefore I

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<v Speaker 2>have no responsibility over them, and it basically cursed them

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<v Speaker 2>to earth. And if you go further into the occult,

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<v Speaker 2>it is that group, that special class of beings that

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<v Speaker 2>are forever damned walking the face of the earth, and

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<v Speaker 2>then that's how you get into these are in fact

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<v Speaker 2>the demons, which were initially the angels. One third of

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<v Speaker 2>the heavens fell followed Satan and that was called the

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<v Speaker 2>first Revolt.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's really interesting. But I think that this article

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<v Speaker 1>just proves that the Pentagon doesn't believe in extra tresturials either,

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<v Speaker 1>because they're labeling this something from mythology that has no

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<v Speaker 1>proof of existing, and the easiest explanation is to lump

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<v Speaker 1>it into the lump extra trestrials and UFOs into the

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<v Speaker 1>spiritual category or the consciousness category, just like demons, angels,

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus and God are in right, and that explains a

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<v Speaker 1>way why no one ever sees them, because it's a

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<v Speaker 1>spiritual phenomenon and a consciousness phenomenon, not a physical one.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're there wayane right, they're there. Just trust me.

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<v Speaker 1>They're there, but you can't see them because they're on

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<v Speaker 1>a higher vibratory rate.

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<v Speaker 2>How can they say that, writer, when they're saying that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's these mythological beings that the book of Zachariah,

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<v Speaker 2>chapter twelve. I believe he's standing there with his angel.

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<v Speaker 2>They're on this cliff, and as he looked in the

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<v Speaker 2>direction of Sumer. That's what it says that the flying

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<v Speaker 2>carpet scroll came and was hovering right with them. There

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<v Speaker 2>were two pilots. They were females, and there was an

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<v Speaker 2>individual in the center, and the Zachariah the prophet asked

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<v Speaker 2>the angel who and what is this? And he said,

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<v Speaker 2>these are the people from Sumer. So it's very and listen,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go back all the way into the Vedic the

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<v Speaker 2>Hindu beliefs. The vashrams are the flying craft that they had.

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<v Speaker 2>We know that there were phramas, excuse me, three different

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<v Speaker 2>classes of those, one that moved material, one that moved royalty,

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<v Speaker 2>and one that moved people. So where did these people go?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, and and and if you study demonology, well, really,

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<v Speaker 2>what you're talking about is that these are the masters

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<v Speaker 2>of technology. I mean, if you think six thousand years

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<v Speaker 2>ago when these prophets were writing this stuff on these accounters, well,

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<v Speaker 2>are you telling me that they didn't understand about aerodynamics

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<v Speaker 2>and understand about magnetism, gravitational forces.

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<v Speaker 3>And what have you.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently they did. We didn't. But that's why we are

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<v Speaker 2>so mesmerized. Can I get back to that article about

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<v Speaker 2>the Pentagon? What I find frightening about this is.

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<v Speaker 3>That if that is the mindset of these cats that

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<v Speaker 3>are supposedly defenders, we hope of the United States, right,

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<v Speaker 3>they're supposed to be the defenders of us, And what

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<v Speaker 3>they're saying is that they don't want to pursue a

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<v Speaker 3>research of science.

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<v Speaker 2>Because they think that this is already demonic Wright Or

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's just me. I mean, I'm sixty eight and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, still feel very young. But I look at

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<v Speaker 2>this and I go, how regressed are we? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking about concepts of what you and I were

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<v Speaker 2>talking about what they found on the pictographs, apparently as

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<v Speaker 2>the children of Israel were making it through the desert.

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<v Speaker 2>This is really what we're saying, is that that's what

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<v Speaker 2>we really think is going on here. That's frightening.

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<v Speaker 1>It is really frightening. And let's just say, hypothetically, what

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<v Speaker 1>would you think a demon would be? Just mentioned that

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<v Speaker 1>they're technologically advanced. Now, before you answer, we need to

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<v Speaker 1>take away all of the religious programming and all the

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts and ideas others have placed through TV and movies

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<v Speaker 1>and possession horror films, and take away the Hollywood interpretation

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<v Speaker 1>of being possessed by demons. What are they? If they exist? Mean,

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<v Speaker 1>by my.

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<v Speaker 2>Definition, they're multi dimensional beings. They have the ability to

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<v Speaker 2>coexist in multiple dimensions, having the ability to and this

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<v Speaker 2>just sounds a little strange. If their energy, which has

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<v Speaker 2>a non physical form, well that's kind of proving wrong

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<v Speaker 2>because then it shows that these beings are probably mortal.

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<v Speaker 2>Most likely they can die just like we can. They

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<v Speaker 2>have the ability to be longer lived. I happen to

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<v Speaker 2>think they've been here for a very long long time.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is where we get the stories of the reptilians.

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<v Speaker 2>We get the story of the snake in the garden

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<v Speaker 2>of eating the whole idea, because if you believe that,

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<v Speaker 2>then you have to also believe that there were talking

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<v Speaker 2>animals back then.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I take a little more fundamentalist aspect toward

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<v Speaker 1>what I think demons are. I think the demons are

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<v Speaker 1>a thought form.

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<v Speaker 2>A nigger gore.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. I think the demons are the voice that's inside

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<v Speaker 1>your head, whispering negativity in your ear, telling you that

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<v Speaker 1>you aren't good enough, telling you that you can never

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<v Speaker 1>make anything of your life, constantly berating you with failure, right,

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<v Speaker 1>telling you that you're stupid, that you shouldn't believe in yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I think demons are. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>when some people believe that negative voice, they never take chances,

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<v Speaker 1>They don't speak their mind, they don't stand up for themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>They get stuck in a rut that they can't seem

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<v Speaker 1>to get out of, no matter how hard they try.

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<v Speaker 1>But that voice inside your head is wrong. Right, You

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<v Speaker 1>have the power to overcome those negative thoughts. But not

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<v Speaker 1>only do they battle. Not only do you battle with

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<v Speaker 1>your own negativity, but you also have to battle other

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<v Speaker 1>people's negativity. Right, because other people try and insert those

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<v Speaker 1>negative thought forms into your head as well, that try

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<v Speaker 1>and break down that door of positivity and put those

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<v Speaker 1>demons into your head through negativity, right, and you ponder

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<v Speaker 1>on it and you start to believe in that negativity.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the back door that I think demons use. If

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<v Speaker 1>they can't get to you directly, they will use others

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<v Speaker 1>to try and break down that barrier inside of your mind.

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<v Speaker 1>And these negative thoughts can get so bad and so

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<v Speaker 1>in such extreme forms that it looks like that it's

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<v Speaker 1>demonic possession, but in reality it takes on the form

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<v Speaker 1>of extreme mental illness.