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some sound. I want to talk about Darren Peterson with you.
Darren Peterson's gonna make some money, There's no doubt about it.
But I don't know if it's first round, first pick,
overall money. We'll talk about it here momentary blaining. How
thatck are you, buddy?
Speaker 4: I'm doing great, happy to be here. Always a pleasure
to see you guys.
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed so last night, by the way, Darren Peterson,
he hits a three and immediately turns to Bill self
and subs himself out. Now, Darren Peterson was in Fuego
last night. Okay, he was hot. He was in minimal minutes.
I think it was like eighteen minutes of play. He
got twenty three points. He was six of ten, He
was six to ten from the three point line, seven
to twelve from the field, he was three or four
from the charity stripe, and he had two rebounds, one block,
one steal. Now, interesting fact that was where Oklahoma State
they got to win eighty one sixty nine. DNP as
we call him here on Cougar Sports, did not play
much after those eighteen minutes, did play any minutes after that?
Pretty crazy, pretty controversial. And here's a function that Darren
Peterson has one assist over his last eighty four minutes play,
so he never had. He's a black hole, by the way,
but he's the best score per minute played in college basketball.
Speaker 3: The question is, though, is something going to take him first? Overall?
Speaker 2: Right, now, Bill self, can we get to the Bill
selfs down first? Let's do the bill selves down first?
Speaker 3: Post game?
Speaker 2: Okay, this is what Bill Self had to say about
Darren Peterson in the post game.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I thought we were offensive.
Speaker 5: We were great early and the moen we did school,
we got great looks, and of course Darren was trify early.
But I thought everybody played well early. Uh, and then
we didn't finish the half grade and and then the
second half we just kind of mised it together. But
but uh, I thought overall is we were we were
good enough early to kind of you know, uh keep
them at arms.
Speaker 3: Uh for the remainder of the game.
Speaker 6: You guys have you guys have kind of had this
a couple of times now where Darren is really strong
first half and then isn't able to go to the
rest of the game. Just how you sort of navigated
that and and what challenges does that maybe RESI.
Speaker 5: Well, we've had it more than a couple of times,
and and uh uh I didn't anticipate that tonight at all.
Speaker 3: I thought he was good to go. Uh but obviously
we only got eighteen minutes.
Speaker 1: Out of him.
Speaker 4: Uh uh.
Speaker 5: You know that's disappointing because.
Speaker 3: He could have had a really big night.
Speaker 5: Uh But but uh, you know, one thing about it
is we we we It's happened often enough that our
guys have learned to play without him, even though that's
not the way we want to play. But that's certainly
something that we're not unaccustomed to, right, you know, right now.
Speaker 2: So everyone's shimming in on this obviously, this whole load
management thing. I mean, look, you're a competitor, you know,
you love sport, and you're watching this as as a
fan of the game. Blaine's train Blaine Anderson, NFLPA sort
a FI financial planner and wealth management advisor tax more
wealth advisor.
Speaker 3: What do you make of this when you're watching Darren.
Speaker 2: Peterson DNP all the time and pull himself out and
kind of own he's the coach. It seems like, at
least for himself, he's autonomous. He gets to do whatever
he wants. They're in at Kansas.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I can tell you this is certainly not
a kind of guy I want to rely on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not someone that you want to like have
as you're the star of your your team or the
culture builder of your team.
Speaker 4: Yeah, totally. I mean, I get it, he's a good player.
I love the nickname too, by the way, that's awesome,
But gush when you're talking about building a team around
a player, especially if you're talking a top draft pick.
I don't want to build the team around a guy
like this that's pulled himself out of a game. And
it certainly doesn't seem like the old when the going
gets tough, the tough get going on. I don't sense
up from him at all.
Speaker 2: No, thank you, Jay Williams and Steven A. Smith theF
John did on this particular issue with Darren Peterson. The
questions are swirling around whether or not NBA general managers, coaches,
owners are actually going to take a flyer.
Speaker 3: It's not a flyer.
Speaker 2: Take him as the number one overall pick, and how
far could he drop with this type of behavior in
the NBA draft. This is what Jay Williams had to
say on Get Up earlier this morning.
Speaker 7: If I were a general manager, I would be extremely
concerned about Darren Peterson. I don't question his talent at all.
His talent is the number one pick in the draft,
but I would take aj De Bonsa because I'm not
sure about the availability of Darren Peterson. Darren Peterson has
played twelve of twenty four games this year in college basketball,
and it's when everything from an injury, a hamstring injury,
cramping with the thorough gun on the sideline every single possession,
having the flu, not playing through the flu, and also
just checking himself out of second half of games. I've
done college game Day where all of a sudden, he got
eighteen the first half. You're like, damn, this kid is
so elite, and all of a sudden, the second half
is he playing?
Speaker 8: What happened?
Speaker 7: Nobody knows, Nobody wants to talk about it. His talent
is unquestionable, It's elite, but I don't it don't feel
like he really wants to be there. It doesn't feel
and maybe this is a byproduct KP of when kids
get paid nil and they get money up front, right,
if that's the way it goes, It's like, well, if
I don't want to be here, I get my money
up front, then I can check out when I want
to check out. That's what this feels like. I don't
know if it is that, but damn she here on
paper it looks like that.
Speaker 8: But well, I'm gonna tell you this bill itself better
than me because I would have been got on his
ass like back pockets. We would have been moving so furniture.
There's no way in hell I go and recruit you.
I pay you the dollars that i'm paying you, and
you come and you act the way that you're acting,
meaning like not showing up, thinking that we're doing things
on your terms. Again, this is not I don't look
at this as college basketball anymore. Once you start getting paid,
this is your job. And so I'm starting to think,
you know, I want to get to the root of
the problem. Who is in this corner telling him what
he needs to hear, Who is representing him right, who's
telling him to do these things because I can't blame
an eighteen nineteen year old kid, a young man, should
I say, for acting this way?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 8: What he did last night was disturbing. You could see
it all on Bill self face. I mean, you know
what I'm saying. It was frustration all over it. And
the last part I'm a harp on, is it's gods
like this that don't fulfill their obligations and ruin it
for everybody else. We wasn't having this conversation last year
about no, we were not goople. Flag was showing up
and showing out every single time, and he probably got
paid twenty plus million dollars in due.
Speaker 7: To your point, came pampub came from you? Yeah, no,
it didn't come from me, But I know the collective
which it didn't come from. But I will say this,
so here's what we need to stop doing nationally for everybody.
Speaker 3: Yo.
Speaker 7: There are eighteen nineteen year olds, you know, twenty year
olds in the NBA right, Like it's not they aren't
kids like we are talking about professional basketball players.
Speaker 3: Now, yep, this is no more.
Speaker 7: Well, you know he's just trying to fik kids are
coming to You're talking about young adults coming to programs
with agents, with accountants, with managers. They are getting paid handsomely.
Speaker 3: They are pros.
Speaker 7: It's time to treat them like if I were a
general man.
Speaker 2: All right, So a lot of good stuff there for
both Jay Williams and Kendrick Perkins on get up earlier
this morning.
Speaker 3: Uh, both are right.
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed Jay Williams, you know, you know, his
elaborated on his perspective on Darren Peterson and how he's
just flabbergasted. Kendrick Perkins is also extremely entertaining. I just
don't think that there is any sort of accountability. If
I'm Bill self, this is how I feel. I'm perfectly fine.
We got a good team. If I'm trying to put
myself in billsp. We got a really good team. We
can win a lot of basketball games, and we can
go into we can get into the Big Twelve Tournament
and possibly even win the Big Twelve Tournament with the
team that we have, even if Darren Peterson is playing
eighteen minutes a game.
Speaker 3: Quite honestly, I can get on board with load management.
Speaker 2: If you're communicating with me, if you're like, look like
you're gonna play first hast. We're gonna get a big lead,
and then we're gonna sit you. Yeah, I understand, there's
only so much tread on your tires. You want to
be healthy, you want to be strong. You don't want
to get into like these extremely competitive situations where you
can get injured. I don't know Darren Peterson's injury history
in high school, Okay, I don't. It may have gotten
to the point he's felt though, like he is skinny.
It's not like he's like a thick dude that can
take body blows. Okay, Like, and when you get into
competitive environments and it gets sticky towards the end of games, yeah,
you can get injured. There's no doubt about it. So
I just want to be on board with it. So
it's like, and it feels like he's in the dark.
It feels like the power brokers have kind of been
overseeing Darren Peterson's DMPs in the second half and saying, hey,
once we get to lead you out, you pull yourself out,
because I can hear like I am willing if I'm
Bill's self, Like, look, we're win enough games, we're gonna
get into the big t tot Turim we're gonna get
the NCAA tournament. I just need you to be your
best self in the nc DOUBLEA Tournament because that's when
it matters most. Let's continue to low manage you, pull yourself.
Whenever you feel like you're tweaked or you know you're
not ready to go, that's fine, but we gotta get wins.
Speaker 3: Obviously, we got a good team.
Speaker 2: We can win without you too, but we need you
when it counts, when we really need you.
Speaker 3: We need you in the NCAA tour.
Speaker 2: Just communicate with me, let me know, and then I'll
all run the PR game. Because honestly, this is the
first time that Bill self has openly and outrightly admitted
I didn't anticipate that tonight at all. I thought he
was good to go. We only got eighteen minutes out
of him. That's disappointing because he could have had a
really big night. That's the first negative public relations commentary
from Bill's soelth the head coach. Up to this point,
I thought he was in on the bamboozling, the load
management ing right of all of this.
Speaker 3: I thought that he was in on the take.
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, Darren Peterson, I'm just thinking about it
as a recruiter.
Speaker 3: I recruit you, Darren.
Speaker 2: Look, we're gonna we're gonna utilize you, but we're gonna
load manage you. You can play the first half and
you can sit out the second half. We just want
you here, we need you here, we love you here.
We're gonna take care of you.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 2: You're gonna be the first overall pick. You're gonna help me,
you know, propel myself into the next level of coach,
coaching them in all those things, and.
Speaker 3: YadA, YadA, YadA. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2: Just let me be in on it. Up to this point,
I thought he was in on it. I don't think
he's in on it anymore. I think he's just trying
to He's just riding it out. Maybe the collective is
running things there in Kansas. Maybe the the agents are running.
Maybe there's an ad. Remember there was an ad that
dropped that that stepped down or like a chancellor from
the UH from the stands and talk to Darren Pearson
during a time out, Ronnie, do you remember that. I've
never seen that, Like, can you imagine like I could
actually see Brian Santiago coming down to the court, like
getting it. I can actually see me he's ontoing that,
but like, rarely do you see that? And I'm like, okay,
maybe the power brokers are puppeteering this a little bit.
My theory on this though, I'll give it to you
here on the flip side. But Stephen A. Smith went
off to let let's let's listen to Steven A. Smith
on first take and see it goes off on Darren
Peterson DNP and uh possibly uh. The NBA team that
could grab grab him at number number one.
Speaker 9: Overall despite the sitting out issues. ESPN's Jeremy Wu is
Darren Peterson going first overall in the twenty twenty six
NBA draft. Peterson is averaging twenty points per game, but
has missed eleven games for the Jayhawks this season.
Speaker 7: What in the world is going on here?
Speaker 3: What I got Jeremy Wu number you know what I
call Joe? Let me, let me let me. I heard y'all.
Speaker 10: The only reason I want to go first on this
because I heard y'all.
Speaker 3: Don't get up. Let me say this.
Speaker 10: There is no team in hell that should grab Darren
Peterson number one. You cannot do it. The first ability
is availability and my brother Darren Peterson. I hope you
watch it because I'm talking directly to him. And whoever
his family members is in a cirt whatever, who that,
whoever they are, What the hell is going on? You
are a college player. This twenty four to twenty five games.
He's already missed about twelve eleven or twelve games. You
pull yourself out, pull it down. You made it, Jay,
and then look at the coach. I want to get
out of here. And it ain't the first time he's
done it, and these games and he's missing cramps, flew,
what what? I can't believe what I'm seeing.
Speaker 3: From this guy.
Speaker 10: This guy is a sensational player, talent wise. I'm an
aj Debonza fan. Talent wise, Joe, I understand why everybody's
looking at Darren Peterson and saying that brother is something special.
He could be number one. This is business. I can't
trust him. I cannot. I'm looking at him on the camera.
You cannot be trusted. You can't. The NBA is a business.
It's eighty two regular season games. If you already a professional,
you invoking your own load management.
Speaker 3: Think about that.
Speaker 10: You are a freshman in college and you already engage
in a load management.
Speaker 11: It don't get better. How can I trust you? How
can I.
Speaker 3: Invest in you? When you get paid?
Speaker 10: Ladies and gentlemen, it's not just because of what you do.
It's not just because of your ability. It's because you're
also trusted to produce into the future.
Speaker 3: How can you trust him? Look at Bill self. This
is a national champion, one of.
Speaker 10: The greatest coaches in the history of college basketball, who
has been around for decades, is sitting there shaking his head.
Speaker 3: I thought we were best. I don't know what to do.
He don't know. If he don't know how an NBA.
Speaker 10: Team gonna know how to evaluators gonna know how a
team is. Could you imagine if he's on an NBA
squad and you drop twenty points in the first half
and you hit a jay right in front of your
in the and then turn around.
Speaker 11: And look at your coach.
Speaker 10: They pulled me, give me out, why cramp? And this
ain't the first time I'm gonna tell you it's a problem.
He can't he can't listen. Boy's talent is big time.
I wish him nothing but the best. I ain't rooting
against him. I'm saying, damn this is some flagrantly obvious
stuff that's going on where there's a dereliction of duty,
a lack of commitment, something it ain't just help. Come on, now,
you ain't taking care of yourself.
Speaker 3: How many cramps can you ask? Look?
Speaker 2: All right, I give you my theory. Now this is
all on point. This is fantastic stuff from Steven A. Smith,
Kendrick Perkinson, and Jay Williams. Okay, love and appreciate their perspective.
If I would have been there in that studio with them,
I'm like, you guys are getting rope adoped. Darren Peterson
is going to go off in the NCAA tournament when
it actually matters most I grew up in the Robber
Or era. Robert Orriy has more NBA championship. Now, granted,
Robert ori is not Darren Peterson. Dan Peterson not Robert Orriy.
This is this is but the philosophy is sound, Okay,
Robert ORRII did not play minutes in the regular season.
Speaker 3: He just didn't. That dude was big shot Bob.
Speaker 2: He get into the NBA playoffs and he helped.
Speaker 3: His team win NBA championships.
Speaker 2: Whether it's the Houston Rockets, or you know, or the
San Antonio Spurs.
Speaker 3: Big Shot Bob, That's who he was. Darren Peterson.
Speaker 2: My theory is like, when it comes down to the
NCAA tournament, he's gonna make everyone shut up.
Speaker 3: He already knows he's the best.
Speaker 2: He's the best scorer in the in the nc Double A,
and quite honestly, he would drop twenty a night in
the NBA. Now now, I don't think I'm wondering. I'm
wondering how bad the injuries are with him, like in
like how how severe they are or how severe they've
been in the past that would lead him into a
looad management situation. I think he's going to go off
in the NCAA tournament, though it still will will will
drop his stock leading up to the nc that this
is dropping his stock in GMS and coaches and organizations
are like, he's not Is he a competitor, He's not
even competitor. Why would I want to bring in a
guy that's not competitor. I think he's going to show
that he's competitor in the NCUBA when it actually matters
and be big shot Bob be big shot DNP. Does
that make sense because he can't. He is wielding the
power right now. It is crazy to see. And I
know that a lot of old heads, the youngs listening
right now, they hate it because you know, players have
more power and are making sometimes just as much money
as coaches. Right now, they have more power than the coaches.
They have more power than ads. The pendulum has swung
so far in player advocacy, player power world that you
are two degree held by the the testes.
Speaker 3: You're held.
Speaker 2: You're like they own you, bro. They can pull you
anyway they want. Tapping out, I'm done, DMP out peace,
I'm done. I got twenty I got twenty three and
eighteen minutes, I was six to ten from the three
point line.
Speaker 3: I'm done.
Speaker 2: I'll come back next game maybe if I want to,
and I'll play in the NC DOA. I'll get you
that natty. I'll get you to the Natty. That's what
I think is. I think they're gonna get ropidoped. I
think they're gonna gt ropodope. My opinion, your thoughts playing
trained man, Well, it's.
Speaker 4: Hard to argue with what you're saying, especially with that
pendulum shifting, because for so long it was all about grit.
It was about toughness, and I agree, I think that
the dynamic has changed, and so it's kind of sad
from a fan standpoint and a perspective, But it's hard
to argue what you're saying, and you right, it is
a reality of sports today. And so I mean, looking
at him as a as an owner or as a GM,
I still would have my doubts. And of course he can.
He can silence us critics in the tournament, like you said,
But for me, he'd still be a hard pass right
now with what's happening. But hey, if they go out
and win the tournament, get deep in the tournament and
he lights it up, then then you're right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think all sins are forgiven.
Speaker 2: I think, and he could go over at number one
overall anyway because of the talent. And uh so markets change, right,
you know that better than anybody been in the financial world.
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Speaker 12: Today on the hardwood where number twenty three BYU men
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held by Danny Ayane, and off the night Ubonca set
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Previewing the action for today, there are a total of
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all you Cougar fans in Cougar Country. We have not
discussed discussed BYU football today. And you know how I live.
I'm always talking football. But it is basketball season. I
understand that springball is right around the corner. And I'm excited,
I'm getting amped, I'm getting I'm getting emotional about it.
I put out a little tweet yesterday about the RB
two competition. Now that has been a topic of conversation
amongst cougarnation, probably leading up to like the final game
of the season when LJ. Martin was out, Like, all right, well,
who's RB two, who's gonna be RB three, Who's RB four?
What's our depth chart look like? Within the running back room?
Speaker 3: I put out a tweet.
Speaker 2: I said, look, I've been hearing some good things about
TOO players, in particular in the offseason workouts. Now, offseason
workouts are based on a couple of different things. Okay,
Typically it's about strength and conditioning. It's about max force output.
It's about how fast, how quick, how high you can jump? Right,
how fast you are, how quick you are, how high
you can jump, how how you move how healthy you are,
getting bigger, faster, stronger, more efficient in your movements.
Speaker 3: So front take that baseline. It's not necessarily.
Speaker 2: Football football football like blocking people, running routes and catching
the ball. This is the raw baseline athleticism that typically
launches a football player into a position that you know
that that allows them to thrive on the football field. Okay,
but you still need football like you you need the
kind of these more refined football skill sets. I've met
plenty of guys that can run fast, jump high, and
are quick, but you get them on the football field.
They have low visual acuity, they have low anticipatory skills.
They just can't red react and go make plays. They
may not like contact. They may just they look like
Tarzan and play like something not Tarzan. The old thing
used to be looking like Tarzan, played like Jane. But
I don't want to be canceled like a certain UFC
fighter is probably gonna get canceled here shortly.
Speaker 3: At any rate.
Speaker 2: I gave you two guys that I've been hearing great
things about, Devon Ekka and Logan Pain.
Speaker 3: Now, don't get a twisted LJ.
Speaker 2: Martin also has tested out extremely well in the off season.
But per reports that I received Devon Eka Logan pain
testing out very well in the strength and conditioning, speed, agility, quickness,
round with the force output. Okay, Now when I say
RB two, I'm intrigued by the RB two battle. Many
people think, Look, it's only Moe is RB two, Joe
Vessa Demuni's RB three?
Speaker 3: Is this the RB four battle? Ben?
Speaker 2: Is what they say is how they respond? Is there
a world Ronald a three man weaver that uh, you
could see Devonaka or Logan paint surpassing Sooni Boa or
Joe Vessa de Moody as an RB two or RB
three in twenty twenty six?
Speaker 11: Your thoughts, I think RB two, Ben, it's all open.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 13: In my opinion, I think right now for debate, there's
no said RB two. There's been too many health issues, right,
you know, I know I'm thrown in the name obviously
Press and Rex. This is anybody's this is anybody's spot, Ben.
I'm not trying to come for anybody, but this, the
talks of money is more.
Speaker 11: If he's healthy, that's been too much of a thing.
No one has RB two locked down.
Speaker 13: It's anybody's job, anybody's task, and any of these guys
been out of Logan Pain and Davon Eka can get
that spot.
Speaker 11: That is a very realistic thing.
Speaker 13: Now it's harder for a guy like Devonak could get
it because he's a freshman.
Speaker 11: He's gonna have to go earn it. Logan Pain has
been in the program.
Speaker 13: But look, all of these guys, whether they've been limited,
whether they be due to health or not knowing the
playbook or whatever it is. The only person has their
spot locked is LJ.
Speaker 11: Martin. So Yes, Devon Ecka, Logan Pain.
Speaker 13: They are very much in the mix for RB two,
along with Joe Vessa, Demoni, along with Pressrecx and anybody
in that room. RB two is wide open. In my
opinion right.
Speaker 3: Now, I'm in accord.
Speaker 2: Look, Choni Maall has not been healthy consistently for two years.
How many games has Chioni Mal played in over the
last two years?
Speaker 3: How many think that is off the top of your head.
Speaker 2: How many games has Sioni Moa played in the last
two years? Not as many as you think, right, six
games in twenty twenty four and four games in twenty
twenty five. In two seasons he's played in ten games.
He's got a total forty seven carries and two hundred
and thirty six yards five yards per carrying four touchdowns.
Speaker 3: Not bad, But I don't know if you can.
Speaker 5: Be the.
Speaker 2: The the un uh like inarguably z yeah, in disputed
inarguably the best RB two prospect and you're You're there,
You're the guy, and it's not even a question, right Like,
I just don't see that being the case.
Speaker 3: I can't, I can't.
Speaker 2: I'm with you, Ronnie. This is an open competition. It's
hunting season, and they're looking okay for an RB two,
and that RB two is gonna rise to the top,
is gonna the cream is gonna rise to the top
in spring and fallball. And don't be surprised if it's
somebody no name Cionema or Joves of the Mooney I do.
I'm right there with you. Michael Bestead is coming in too.
He's like, hey, I I want a chance, I want
an opportunity, I want to shot. I want a title
shot at that RB two s But no one's taken
over for L J.
Speaker 3: Martin.
Speaker 2: All right, that's why we're talking RB two here, and
everybody's in the court in that in that particular situation.
But what other running backs could step up? I mean, look,
Devon Eica and Logan Pain to me are very athletic, big,
strong fast. I like Press and Rex Press and Rex
could be the guy. Don't still sleep on. Preston was
getting reps in in in fall camp at RB two
behind l J. Martin, so he very well could step
into that role. Okay, I I think those are your
your guys that are gonna be in that conversation.
Speaker 3: Charlie Miska, I don't. I don't think so.
Speaker 2: You have Lucky Fenw as well. I don't think so
those are your running backs right now. RB two is
still up for grabs, and don't sleep Shoney Mo and
James and Whey may be the favorites, but don't sleep
on Devon, Ekka, Logan Pain and even Preston Rex. Open season,
open competition. Let's see who rises to the top, and
don't be surprised if it's one of those two that
I just mentioned because athletically and force output wise, the
agility of these guys top notch.
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