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Speaker 1: What is going on? Clippers fans, Welcome to a clips

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Adam Oslin. William Updyke is unavoidably detained. We are not

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telling you his location. Adam, I have a question that

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I put in these notes that I made. What's better

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a close loss versus the Spurs or last night's blowout

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lost versus.

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Speaker 2: Spurs close loss easily.

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Speaker 1: Even without Wemby being part of the game.

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Speaker 2: Versus being blown Now, yeah, that's a part of the

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good process logic, Like I want to see them play

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well because I know the Spurs are still good even

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without Wemby. They're eleven and five. Now, I would have

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rather seen a Clippers team that looked like they had

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more pop and energy out there, and yeah, at least

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made it close. I know you can think of that

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as well. It's more painful because we should have won

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then instead of we just got blown out, so it

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doesn't really count.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, from that gamete without Webby, you know, like, does

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that game count?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: That was there were sixty six points in the paint

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by the Spurs last night. Did you see Tyler's quote

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about it. That's an interesting quote.

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Speaker 2: I listened to a post game.

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Speaker 1: Remind me they were physical going to the basket. We

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couldn't stand going to the basket and getting to the hole.

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They were living in the paint. We could control their penetration.

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He's absolutely right.

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Speaker 2: When I read read that post game, I didn't say pause.

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I just paused, and that's said coming back on the

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other side.

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Speaker 1: But it was like, that's the thing, right, like this

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team isn't We only made five threes.

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Speaker 2: Kawhiet four of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Garland didn't hit one or hit one.

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Speaker 2: Yeh was he like one of eight or something one

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of seven?

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just like the rebounds are and the

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point that the paint is just so frustrating right now

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for the Clippers. Be it a rebound, be it defensively,

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it's just not confidence inducing.

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Speaker 2: They won't a great rebounding team even with a Visa Zubos.

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I don't know why people thought they were gonna get

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better without him. Oh wait, there's like half of the

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people in here who said brook Lopez was better than

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a Beata zoo bots. I remember those days the Brook.

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Speaker 1: This is the I think third time in the last

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four games that Brook Lopez has taken the second or

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third most field goal attempts in a game for the Clippers,

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and I think that is enjoyed by our opponents.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I talked about that a lot postgame and said,

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this is indicative of your offense not working. If Brooke

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is taking that many shots. It would be one thing

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if he was just taking like five or six open

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three pointers. Sure, but him taking that many shots, their

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offense looked a little broken in the second quarter, and

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that's where it really started to get away from them,

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and nobody else was taking the initiative, and brook Lopez

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just felt like, somebody's got to take a shot here.

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That's not the plan, that's not the game plan, but

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that's what they had to resort to.

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Speaker 1: I like how you said that. No, it felt like

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everyone was like in this weird defer, we're back into

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watching the gears turn. When guys are out there, things

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seem a little more difficult than they should be.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think partly it's just Spurs are standing in

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front of our guys and playing one on one good defense,

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and so give it to the seven to two guy

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that at least should have an advantage of getting a

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shot off versus guys that are getting clamped out there.

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That the Spurs defense looked amazing last time. I mean,

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they won twenty seven of twenty nine games. It's ridiculous

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z having in a row now.

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Speaker 1: I like this tweet from Justin on just I'm sure

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everyone watching this falls out like the Clippers film, but

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you should. But he notices this. He was like, look,

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this is brook Lopez actually rolling to the basket be

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dealing with and then to make sure that he is

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ready and right for the postseason, there's a Clipper.

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Speaker 2: On the Yeah that was the start of the game. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So like that is when people say when if

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you hear like we need brook Lopez to do like

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normal center stuff, it's that stuff because he's capable of

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doing it. He's a huge dude. He sets pretty good

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screens like that helps so much. That helps the offense

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so much more than the pick and pops. But he

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also needs other guys to like do their job better.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know. Brook Lopez is thirty eight now,

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Guys to expect him to become a different player all

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of a sudden and be a better rebounder or to

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do more of this stuff than what we have seen

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over the last seven to eight years, I think is ridiculous.

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Like as a player, or.

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Speaker 1: When Zoo left, it was nice because it felt like

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we were getting a little more of it. Not be

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great at it, obviously, but it also it takes the

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other guys doing what they're supposed to do too, right,

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Like he shouldn't have to show the initiative.

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Speaker 2: But part of what made him great was he was

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hot from three. The Clippers were hot from three, and

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everybody's like, oh, it's the spacing is this and that?

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As if him making nine threes like he did against

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Portland during that stretch is sustainable. Like what he was.

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He wasn't becoming an elite rebounder all of a sudden.

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He wasn't rolling to the basket and dunking on everyone

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all of a sudden. He wasn't a rim runner, Like

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that's not who he is. He's thirty eight, like he's

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been more than serviceable in his role, especially when you

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account for his age. But I think people are asking

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him to do stuff that he's just not adept at.

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Speaker 1: And what it makes the yanis think so much more disappointing. Alex, Yeah,

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who met you? Alex Webb said he met you.

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Speaker 2: He was there in the pregame presser.

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Speaker 1: He said you. He said you shoved him down. He said, hey,

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Adam and.

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Speaker 2: Had a bad take on Brooke.

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Speaker 1: Hi, Alex, it is sad that Yanick is down. It's difficult.

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I mean, Jackson is down to.

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Speaker 2: Janick was a ceiling lower for this team the time,

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Like the way Yanick was playing and not having an

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athlete like that with Darius Garland to throw lobs to

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that was a huge loss, ceiling heightener. Him getting hurt

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was a low.

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Speaker 1: Got it yet, No, I totally agree.

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Speaker 2: Like my hope against san Antonio, a lot of it

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came from Yonick.

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Speaker 1: Well, and to your point on the rim running thing,

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Darius Garland. Thrott needs a big who can do that.

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That unlocks Darius Garland evenmore. That's why we've seen. You know,

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he hasn't spoken to the media the last two games.

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He's had some rough games. I think he hasn't spoken

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to the media because he's just really frustrated.

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Speaker 2: I don't like that. I gotta be honest, Like James

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Harden did that at times when he had bad games,

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and I said the same thing. I'm gonna be consistent

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with it. I know he doesn't want to get fined

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by the rest right now, and he's been very frustrated.

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Speaker 1: But he got that tech the other day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been frustrated with the physicality and they're losing,

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so it happens.

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Speaker 1: But you know, part of me, he's like, you're kind

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of new.

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Speaker 2: Like that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, you know what I mean, Like.

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Speaker 2: I do what do you mean exactly?

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Speaker 1: Like the passion is nice, but like you're kind of

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new here. I feel like doc to the media.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And when I see all the media members saying

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it at once, like second straight game he's missed now,

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it's just it's not a great look. I would love

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for Darius Garland because there's gonna be games like this.

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You know, James Carden at after Game seven against Denver

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didn't didn't take any questions, like he wasn't there, and

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that's just not a great look.

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Speaker 1: And he had a good game, like.

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Speaker 2: Twelve games he put.

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Speaker 1: Up thirty and like it was like it wasn't that. Yes,

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these are important games, but like, yeah, man, like this

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shit's gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: And they just won five in a row, and like

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you kind of gotta you know, you gotta stay even keel,

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you win five in a row, you kind of gotta

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be as measured as Kawhi is. What or not you

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lose the next two. It's just this is the NBA.

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And like Darius Garland, he's still relatively young at twenty six,

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and I love what he's brought to this team. You know,

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it was just a little bit disappointing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope he talks with the media after the game.

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Speaker 2: Maybe there was something else going on.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about Jimmy Williams bringing up a point

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how Kobe Sanders gets so little playing time is infuriating. Hey,

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he got more time against the Spurs. Nico only played

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five minutes.

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Speaker 2: They gave him Nico's stint in the second half, So

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Nico shovel in the first half. It looked like that

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was coach who's kind of breaking point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that it feels like that transition is happening.

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Speaker 2: But coach who was asked postgame about it and he

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just said, we'll see, right.

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Speaker 1: That's what I mean. It's not it's never a it's

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never a snap of the finger. Yeah, it's And I

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feel like we've talked about this a lot, but I

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am bringing it up again. It shows how thing the

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margins were with the roster, just kind of losses like this, right,

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Like Isaiah Jackson's out. Isaiah Jackson was good against the

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Kings the last time we played, Like I think we're

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probably gonna beat the Kings, but like it just we

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got to deal with the small ball five minutes. Now

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we're like learning how to play that as a squad. Tough,

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tough road right now.

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Speaker 2: Well, they also just need bodies to soak up minutes

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because somebody guys are tired out there. And Isaiah Jackson

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is somebody who's young and has a ton of energy,

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and he has been I talk about as serviceable as

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Brook Lopez has been going back into the starting role.

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I think Isaiah Jackson has been equally as good in

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his role. Expanding scenic went down.

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Speaker 1: Oscar Hamanez is asking any update on Jackson. No, he's

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gonna be real. All we know is that a couple

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days ago, they said he's gonna be reevaluated.

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Speaker 2: No, yesterday pregame it came out he's been he's out

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for the next week, so he's going to be reevaluated.

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After that they said high ankle sprain. That was the

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reevaluation they got back, So now they have to wait

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another week to see how he's feeling.

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Speaker 1: And hik brain high ankle sprain is like it is

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the most boring name for a very annoying you know

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what I mean, like for a very annoyed injury. I

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like this from Bonesaw. He's asking if can someone keep

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Joseph quiet about rest until after the game. We'll do

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our best. He does have the link for the show,

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so we'll do our best. But so here's my thing

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about the King's game. I was looking at some stats

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from when we lost to them, and here are two

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things that I hope don't happen again. They shot forty

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four percent from three in that game that we lost,

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which is ten percent higher than their average on the season.

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And they shot fifty eight percent from the floor in general,

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which is twelve percent higher than their season average. I

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hope that those two things don't that those trends don't

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maybe continue.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that was was that the last last

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gasp of the Kings. Have they won any major games

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since then? Have they won any game since then? You're

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gonna because that was still They played Russ and DeMar

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DeRozan late in that game. Russ obviously hit a big

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three pointer. Damar was hitting ridiculous mid range shots that

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were well defended, and so they did just beat the

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Raptors the other day. I want to see the minutes

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district though, you know.

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Speaker 1: What I mean?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was so Damar played thirty five minutes. Russ

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didn't play. Has Russ been out for some time now?

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But Damar was playing real minutes Precus jew was playing

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real minutes. You played thirty eight? You know good?

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Speaker 1: You know it really grinds my gears. I typed in

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Westbrook injury into Google and the stupid AI over you

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comes up and it's just giving me like a hist

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of his injuries, and I'm like, in what world would

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I want that?

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Speaker 2: What if it's recent Russ injury?

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Speaker 1: Get a toe thing mm hmm with soreness.

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Speaker 2: It's been going around, What is the deal with that?

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In the air?

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Speaker 1: Get in souls there's so many NBA players who legitimately

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just like buy buy shoes, off stock acts, get in souls.

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I do not. I don't think I ever really critique

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anything professional athletes do in any sport, but get in souls.

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That is my one note to anyone who plays any

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sport is get special, get insults.

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Speaker 2: Maybe this is just their excuse to not have to

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play him if he has anything, no matter how minor

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it is, that's somewhat legitimate. They can just say, hey,

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he has a toe issue.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't played their last seven and six games.

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Speaker 2: So they've won three games since beating the Clippers. They

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beat the Nets, They'd just beat the Raptors. They beat

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the Jazz the next day after being the Clippers.

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Speaker 1: And you know what's crazy about all those wins. Who

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wasn't playing in all those wins except for the Clippers game,

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Russ Russell Westbrook. Yeah, there's three guys that I'm looking

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at to get right in this game. Garland Mathern, Derek

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Jones Junior. Garland and Mathrin have heavier lifts obviously than

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Derek Jones Junior, but math has seemed frustrated.

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Speaker 2: And I thought he had Here's the thing last night

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was so indicative of who he is as a player

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with the double edged sword, because the end of the

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third quarter was the best of bennickmathern, and he was

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the reason the last three and a half four minutes

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of that third quarter they cut it to nine. He

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was a huge part of that. He hit that crazy

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and one going left where he got it to go,

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and he was energized, he was playing good defense. He

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had another crazy and one he hit going right. The

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wall was going nuts, and he had ten points on

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the third and it was gained to the line and

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it looked like classic Ben mcmatherin for what we've known

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over the last month. And then he has a bad

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turnover to end the third quarter. Really bad turnover. Yeah,

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and then the fourth definitely did not go his way,

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and he had that breakaway that could have cut it

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to five. He went one on one Kobe Sanders Is

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on his left instead of going to him. He tried

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to get the layup to go. He couldn't get it.

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And it's just it's it's similar to Russell Westbrook at

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times with the volatility.

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Speaker 1: I compared him to I said that Jonathan Kamingo was

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a poor man's Ben Maathrone when I did the stream

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with Joseph when you think of the contract situation in.

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Speaker 2: Everything thing, I think I said that a month ago

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when they picked him up. Like he's high level. Jonathan Kaminga,

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he's more established.

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Speaker 1: X Bongo Project says, missed the game yesterday. Should I

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watch the replay? No, learn a new recipe or something?

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Do not watch the replay? Well, and the Matherin start

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was rough to the game last night. He came in.

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He is one of the epitomes of the bull in

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the China Shop, saying like he comes in and he's

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just like running into shit and trying to get the layer.

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Speaker 2: Out of control.

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Speaker 1: He's he's a little out of control. Sometimes he can

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get right against the Kings though, right like this is

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this is a get right game for the Clippers, which

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I mean every game is a must win obviously, but

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like they gotta play the map. They have a MAVs

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Thunder back to back after this, and then they have

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the two most important games of the season. STEP's back now,

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so they last two games are great, Like this is

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a get right game and Derek Jones Junior can just

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get into some kind of groove there's kind of two

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rough ones from him, and then like again Garland, like

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let's let's get some traction here.

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Speaker 2: I'm not too worried about DJ because his defense is

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still looked good. I know he had a nice like

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three weeks where he was really turning a corner offensively,

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but like we just did this with John Collins recently,

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and now he's had like three or four really good.

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Speaker 1: He was great, he was great yesterday.

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Speaker 2: It's yeah, Uh, Mattherin, you wondered because things were coming

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so easy for him with hitting everything from the outside way.

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I said, like, it's not gonna look as pretty when

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those twenty eight footers are not falling off the balance.

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And that's what we've kind of seen the last three games.

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And maybe he's in his own head a little bit

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because of it, because I'm sure he had all the

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confidence in the world when he was knocking down everything.

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Now we get to see him go through a funk,

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and how's he coming out of it?

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Speaker 1: How is he coming out of it? And I just

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kind of had a thing paying in my brain of

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what does his game look like in the playoffs with

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a different whistle. Remember some of the playoff games last

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year the ref when the refs were like, all right,

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you guys can just play now, Like.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's totally different thing. Yeah, Norm was affected

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by that. Harden gets affected by that. Yes, we have

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some pretty good examples in the past, just something to watch.

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Part of the whistle, though, has gone against him defensively.

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He has gotten a pretty ticky tack whistle at times

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where he's deeing up somebody pretty hard and he's getting

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called for a foul and it's like, I'm not getting

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this on the other end. So maybe that could at

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least equal out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good call. But in ski, hello, but

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in ski saying Matherin should be prioritized over Collins this

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offseason since I lost faith and what Colin's ceiling is

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the Defensively, Colin still has struggled at times on d

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even if his offense is good. I mean, I think

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the Clippers are probably going to prioritize the youth of Matherin.

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Speaker 2: But you know what, I think they can get him

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both back for forty annually. That's a that's a good deal.

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Speaker 1: Shock that up. Hell, yes, I agree percent on that.

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Matherine isn't exactly a defensive stalwart though, right, Like, it's

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not like Collins was a little rough defensively recently, but

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like it's not like Mathern is a giant upgrade from Collins.

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Speaker 2: Right before he had that one that got him going.

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In the third Mathrom played a really good defensive uh

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possession against Dylan Harper trying to drive on him left

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and they ended up getting the rebound out of it,

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and he he stuck with him. I thought that also

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helped him. He's he's very young players like the you know,

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emotional roller coaster. He's still twenty three.

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Speaker 1: He got to recognize that he's twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when I say he has some Russell Westbrook to

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his game, it's like, well, Russ is thirty seven now

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he still plays like that. That doesn't mean that Bennick

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Mathern is going to play like that. When they first

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got him, I said the goal would be to see

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if you can trim some of the fat that you

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can make him a better player. It's really hard to

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do in twenty twenty five games at the end of

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the season on a new team that they feel like, yeah,

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that needs to win and there's pressure. So does this

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coaching staff believe I would guess when it comes to

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valuating Benedick Matherin if they can, you know, trim the

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fat and get rid of some of the weaknesses and

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turn him into a better player and a guy who

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makes the right decision more often than not.

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Speaker 1: And I feel optimistic about that. I think him and

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Kawi's the thing is awesome. Like we've seen him had

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six assists the other day and it looked natural. Right,

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he wasn't like forcing them. He's twenty three. Like, there

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is something there. What what is money wise? Well, just

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it's that's just what I'm I'm interested to see how

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that goes.

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Speaker 2: That's a good point. Like he could be a guy

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that only gets a non tax payer mid level exception money,

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which is about fifteen million per year. It's going to

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be this year.

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Speaker 1: That would be awesome. I don't know great.

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Speaker 2: How many teams are going to be like, oh, we're

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throwing twenty five million per year at you on a

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long term contract because I don't know how many teams

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have money.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is we've talked about this, Like our ideal

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situation is like a two year contract with an option.

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It's probably Benedict Mathern's ideal situation too. Yeah, get you

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get there, you get the exception to prove right, and

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then you can signed a huge contract. When you're like

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it's still there, everyone can still win. I guess between

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Benedict mather and the Clippers.

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Speaker 2: His problem is, I think because he lives on like

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two extremes. When he makes mistakes, they're really loud and

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they stand out heavily, and like that two on one

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situation last night where he could have cut it to

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five and I didn't, you know, watching it back, yeah,

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you should have gave it up to Kobe Sanders. I

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also I trust him much more in transition than Russell

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Westbrook than I ever trusted him. Like. He has made

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some spectacular layups and he's made him with ease at

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times Bendict mather and off balance that are to and

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once he got yeah, and he can get the whistle, so.

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Speaker 1: Is the other part. He is also, thankfully a good

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just like normal was a good free thure.

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Speaker 2: He may have been trying too much to draw the foul,

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knowing that he could get that whistle, get the add

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one as he had just gotten two of them, and

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that might have been his thinking there. But some of

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his stuff definitely does look you can see it's predetermined

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a little bit what play he's going to make down

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the court, and that has to change. He has to

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just get better at reading the game, you know, in

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real time, and not making a decision of what he's

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going to do before he comes into the half court

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and he's got to react to the defense.

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Speaker 1: But Nski said, fair, but they're concerned what the center

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position will be if we don't have enough cap space

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to get a decent center over Brook. Janick might be back.

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Speaker 2: In time, I don't think.

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Speaker 1: So we went through the timeline, Okay, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Chid like six months that's what it was. That's like

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best case, and then they were out of it and tanking,

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so he didn't come back anyways, but he was like

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playing five on five at that point.

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Speaker 1: That's true. We'll still have his age. I mean, it

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might just be the same center rotation. Yeah, it could be,

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which is a little frustrating.

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Speaker 2: Like if if it's that for the first month and

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a half of the season before y on it comes back.

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I don't know, that's not the end of the world.

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To me.

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Speaker 1: The roster theoretically could still figure it. Yeah, that's not

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It's not the end of the world. But it's also

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like when they periodically when that doomsday clock moves, you know,

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that weird doomsday clock that like means nothing, but like

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people freak out when they're like the doomsday clock got

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one hour closer to midnight. Er, you know what I'm

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talking about? I think, So that is how I feel.

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That's how I would feel about.

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Speaker 2: Is the Hudsucker proxy.

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Speaker 1: Let me look this up. This is a real thing.

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Speaker 2: Yes, doctor Love, No.

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Speaker 1: It's an actual thing. Doomsday clock two months ago, doomsday

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clock set it eighty five seconds to midnight amid nuclear threats.

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Like anyway, that is how I would feel about having

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the same center rotation going into next season. The doomsday

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clock once it gets to midnight, it signals the threat

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of a global catastrophe.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's like the fear greed index in the stock market,

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Like where is everybody exactly?

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Speaker 1: It's basically a vibes Yeah, but it makes sense. That's

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how I would feel about the center rotation. But we

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do need like this is a weird game against the

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Kings because like we have to do small ball, which

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we have not been good at.

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Speaker 2: If they can't be good at small ball against Sacramento,

474
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like they haven't been good at against good teams recently

475
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,319
as they haven't had much time to practice. But they

476
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,119
also it's not like they were great with a big

477
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,519
on the floor either. Like they made a little bit

478
00:26:03,559 --> 00:26:06,400
of a run when they went small last night and

479
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,400
then san Antonio called a time out and adjusted and

480
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:10,440
they made a run back.

481
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Speaker 1: You get when you're a team that's not good at

482
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,599
small ball, you get that like two minute stretch where

483
00:26:17,599 --> 00:26:21,400
you just where like right in the beginning, where it's like, oh,

484
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,039
maybe it's all right, it's working, and then exactly what

485
00:26:25,079 --> 00:26:28,039
you said happens. The team calls a timeout, the other

486
00:26:28,079 --> 00:26:29,519
team calls the time and says, okay, now we have

487
00:26:29,559 --> 00:26:33,079
this figured out. The Clippers don't have enough shooting really

488
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,319
for the small ball to like be as effective as

489
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:36,599
it should be.

490
00:26:38,559 --> 00:26:42,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely not as ideal. But it's like if

491
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,079
John Collins is playing the five, John Hollen is a

492
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,279
forty three point shooter on the season, Like, yeah, it's

493
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,599
not terrible, it just hasn't clicked in yet. And that

494
00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:57,640
was coach who has talked about just some of the

495
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,920
stagnant offense that we've been seeing as of late.

496
00:27:00,079 --> 00:27:04,599
Speaker 1: At times, Yeah, it's frustrating. It's like the like stagnant

497
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,119
offense was hardened. I don't know this it is. It's

498
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:13,759
just frustrating, like we saw it click in terms of

499
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:15,680
you know, I don't think they're gonna win five games

500
00:27:15,799 --> 00:27:18,519
end of the season. We just played eighteen games in March, like,

501
00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:22,160
but we saw them clicking and figuring it out during March,

502
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,480
even when they would lose.

503
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,519
Speaker 2: I think a lot of this. One of my themes

504
00:27:26,599 --> 00:27:30,359
last night was this is the March tax, like you're

505
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:35,000
paying for it now in April. Mm hmm. And I

506
00:27:36,079 --> 00:27:38,640
have seen some real tired legs the last two games,

507
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,440
and some guys have acknowledged it. Others don't want to.

508
00:27:42,559 --> 00:27:46,200
Coach Lou didn't want to post game last night. Kawhi

509
00:27:46,279 --> 00:27:48,799
Leonard after the first like four minutes of the third

510
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,039
quarter looked so gassed and they were doubling him in

511
00:27:52,079 --> 00:27:55,759
the back court and he still played the entire third quarter.

512
00:27:57,319 --> 00:27:58,599
Speaker 1: He's got the wrist thing too.

513
00:27:58,799 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 2: Yeah too. I think guys like, maybe you're hitting the

514
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,480
wall a little bit because they went so hard in

515
00:28:05,559 --> 00:28:08,000
March to go twelve and six, and you're paying for

516
00:28:08,039 --> 00:28:10,559
it now and you're playing a couple better teams. Now

517
00:28:10,599 --> 00:28:14,279
and hopefully with two days off of the first time

518
00:28:14,319 --> 00:28:16,960
in a month, you'll make all the difference in the world.

519
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 1: It's just, yeah, it's tough. They had to win ten

520
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,920
out of eleven last year, which they obviously look gassed

521
00:28:24,079 --> 00:28:26,240
in that playoff series, and they're they're just having to

522
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:31,759
play playoff basketball before the playoffs intensity wise, Like and

523
00:28:31,799 --> 00:28:34,039
then I mean, you add on, even if even if

524
00:28:34,039 --> 00:28:37,640
they only had call me crazy, call me optimistic, even

525
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:43,799
if they only had fifteen games in March, whoa, whoa,

526
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,920
They'd still have to play very high level basketball, you

527
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,400
know what I mean? Like, yeah, the pressure of the margins.

528
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do feel like this is a little bit

529
00:28:53,839 --> 00:28:56,359
of fan byas like, oh, we gotta we gotta push

530
00:28:56,359 --> 00:28:57,960
at the end of the season. I wish we were

531
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,240
in a better spot. It's like, how many teams are

532
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,920
not pushing right now in the Western Conference?

533
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: That's a fair point.

534
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,839
Speaker 2: How many teams are so secure and they're positioning right now.

535
00:29:07,519 --> 00:29:09,400
OKAC isn't secure.

536
00:29:10,039 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: That's true. Speaking of teams that are gonna push, we

537
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,000
have the Blazers game on four to ten, and then

538
00:29:18,359 --> 00:29:20,279
Steph Curry is now back for the Dubs. Who the

539
00:29:20,319 --> 00:29:24,319
Clippers play on April twelve. Those are gonna be some

540
00:29:24,359 --> 00:29:29,480
stressful games. I don't feel incredibly good the war I

541
00:29:29,559 --> 00:29:31,519
feel better about the Warriors game than I do about

542
00:29:31,519 --> 00:29:34,720
the Blazers game because the Blazers just have a roster

543
00:29:34,839 --> 00:29:40,400
that's like built, not built specifically, but for the Clippers deficiencies.

544
00:29:40,519 --> 00:29:43,279
The Blazers are good at all of those things.

545
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty likely Golden State has nowhere to go.

546
00:29:47,839 --> 00:29:50,200
They might be the one team that are because they're

547
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,480
tenth and they can't be eleventh, and they can't be ninth.

548
00:29:52,519 --> 00:29:56,599
They're three games back at the Clippers, so I don't

549
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,720
know how hard they're gonna be playing when they're gonna

550
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,920
know that. Maybe the only thing could be do they

551
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,839
want to play the Clippers or Portland in that nine

552
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:06,680
ten matchup?

553
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:12,519
Speaker 1: They probably want to play the Clippers. Adam's leaving he

554
00:30:12,599 --> 00:30:15,680
hated that take. If you're not if you're listening to

555
00:30:15,759 --> 00:30:17,799
this later and you're not watching a YouTube dot comp

556
00:30:17,799 --> 00:30:23,799
Stack Clippers podcast, you miss Adam Oustlin's storming out. I'm

557
00:30:23,799 --> 00:30:25,640
gonna say this to Adam too, but I think if

558
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,720
you're the Warriors, you would rather play the Clippers, because

559
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,720
I think all right, he's back. What happened to your cats?

560
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,799
Steal something from you?

561
00:30:32,839 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: No door dash? Okay?

562
00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:35,079
Speaker 1: What'd you get?

563
00:30:36,319 --> 00:30:38,559
Speaker 2: Uh? Will go gie bowl?

564
00:30:38,839 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm throw with that. There's not a cave barbecue

565
00:30:42,519 --> 00:30:43,079
place up there.

566
00:30:45,559 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I ordered from this like Asian fusion place.

567
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm just giving you. If you're the Warriors, though, you

568
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:59,319
would probably rather play the Clippers than the Blazers. Blazers

569
00:30:59,319 --> 00:30:59,759
are young.

570
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,799
Speaker 2: I would not rather play Kawhi and Darry Scarland. I

571
00:31:04,839 --> 00:31:05,480
gotta be honest.

572
00:31:06,599 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: No, that's a good point.

573
00:31:07,839 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they just lost to him last year. I know

574
00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:14,880
that was hardened to reply. But they have not had

575
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,000
good success against the Clippers last two years record wise

576
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:19,160
at all.

577
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: It's so weird, man. It feels like these games are

578
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,759
gonna take forever. You know what I'm saying, Like just

579
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:31,759
every single game for the Clippers have what five These

580
00:31:31,799 --> 00:31:35,960
are gonna take forever? Just like mentally, this is.

581
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 2: The life we have chosen. Everybody, Why is it gonna

582
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,880
be like this? This is Sparta.

583
00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say. Why is it gotta be like this?

584
00:31:43,279 --> 00:31:44,720
It's just gonna be a lot.

585
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: I know, but a lot of people are lamenting the fact.

586
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,440
Why can't we just like ease our way into the

587
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,880
playoffs and this and that they're in the playing situation,

588
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,160
so there's already like uncertainty.

589
00:31:56,559 --> 00:31:59,759
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, it's like I don't know. Yeah, if you

590
00:31:59,839 --> 00:32:03,119
be game a Clippers fan after the Kawhi Paul George trade, no,

591
00:32:03,359 --> 00:32:05,440
I have no problem with that. That makes total sense.

592
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,400
I get that we need more fans, but it's it's

593
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:13,960
a stressful existence. It's not you didn't join a team anyway.

594
00:32:16,599 --> 00:32:20,240
It's not easy. Chris ware is saying we're gonna go

595
00:32:20,279 --> 00:32:22,519
one and four the rest of the way. I don't

596
00:32:22,519 --> 00:32:25,759
believe that doomor I think they might.

597
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,759
Speaker 2: It's just doomsday clock at.

598
00:32:27,759 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: Yeah the Dunes. The clock is so funny.

599
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,759
Speaker 2: So I believe that. It's like every everybody just reacts

600
00:32:37,759 --> 00:32:39,680
to whatever happened the last game of the last two

601
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,559
games when they won five in a row. We're never

602
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,440
losing again. We're gonna go, you know, five and one

603
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:45,960
the rest of the way. When they lose two in

604
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,400
a row, now it's all over. It's like they're still

605
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,599
the same team they were when they won five in

606
00:32:50,599 --> 00:32:54,400
a row. They still have pretty much the same guys. Uh,

607
00:32:54,599 --> 00:32:56,920
they're gonna be Okay, this is this is the journey

608
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,240
of an NBA season, and.

609
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Speaker 1: Maybe Darius Garland is going through that right now. Maybe

610
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,599
he's he's going through the roller coaster of a game

611
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,920
by game situation that that might be what happened. So

612
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,440
I think the Clippers, I think they beat the Kings.

613
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:17,359
I think they beat the MAVs. They honestly might split

614
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:23,519
between Blazers Warriors. Yeah, so that's that's three and two,

615
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,200
which I'll take it.

616
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Speaker 2: With a win against Portland, you're likely to be eight.

617
00:33:33,079 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: But Inski is asking, what's the Blazers schedule?

618
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,839
Speaker 2: They have tough games here they have They have Denver, they.

619
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Speaker 1: Have four games left those bastards. They play Denver on Monday,

620
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:52,160
the Spurs on Wednesday, Clippers Friday. They end their season

621
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,519
against the Kings. So they have.

622
00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 2: This horse what is this horse?

623
00:33:57,279 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: Aess?

624
00:33:57,599 --> 00:34:03,359
Speaker 2: They get three days off, they got today, Saturday is

625
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:08,800
Sunday off. What was their bars, Like, I don't know,

626
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,239
sixteen games, fifteen and eight.

627
00:34:17,079 --> 00:34:19,039
Speaker 1: But they have a difficult schedule. So like they have

628
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:25,079
let's call it three difficult games in between between the Nuggets, Spurs,

629
00:34:25,079 --> 00:34:28,400
and Clippers, like and that's every other they play every

630
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,400
other day once the Nuggets. It goes Nuggets day off,

631
00:34:31,559 --> 00:34:34,840
Spurs day off, Clippers. Not that we have we have

632
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,960
a fucking back to we have a three and four.

633
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:46,199
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't like that. But they're not going

634
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,199
better than one on one against Nburn San Antonio and

635
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,280
they may go on two.

636
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they're gonna split. Yeah, best case scenario

637
00:34:56,159 --> 00:34:56,719
they split that.

638
00:34:57,039 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

639
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 1: Interesting. I'm going to be at Disneyland for the Clippers

640
00:35:03,079 --> 00:35:04,760
uh Blazers.

641
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 2: Game, the happiest place on Earth.

642
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 1: Hey, if the Clippers lose, man, I'm gonna burn that

643
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,599
fucking place down.

644
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,599
Speaker 2: Go to get some drinks of ESPN Zone.

645
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm going to ruin my nephew's vacation. Is what's gonna happen.

646
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,920
I'm going to rip the head off a mask. I'm

647
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,159
just getting Disney. I know your security is crazy. I

648
00:35:26,199 --> 00:35:29,559
would never do that. If you're watching, I know they

649
00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:32,440
got eyes. Anything else you want to say before we

650
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,920
get out of here, I'm just kind of tense and

651
00:35:35,079 --> 00:35:40,079
nervous for the rest of this whole saga. I don't

652
00:35:40,119 --> 00:35:42,360
We've got a lot of questions about seating and stuff,

653
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,079
but I don't even want to answer them because they

654
00:35:44,119 --> 00:35:45,559
can just change.

655
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 2: We're tense and nervous because these games matter. That's that's

656
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,639
what we want in sports, the games to have stakes.

657
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,880
This is good. They were gonna matter at some point.

658
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: Anyways, this is good.

659
00:35:58,519 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 2: Have you got the cruise into being a top four seed.

660
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:07,599
You still are gonna be stressed out eventually, get it.

661
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,760
Get it out of the way. Like hopefully this makes

662
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,840
some more battle tested. You know, they should win the

663
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,159
next two games. Period. Yeah, if they're serious, they should

664
00:36:18,199 --> 00:36:19,079
win the next two games.

665
00:36:20,519 --> 00:36:23,119
Speaker 1: That's it. I could not agree more. Thank you for

666
00:36:23,199 --> 00:36:25,800
hanging out everybody in the chat. If you miss this

667
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:30,079
and you're listening to the audio, thank you also. But

668
00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:32,119
you can find us at YouTube dot com Slash at

669
00:36:32,119 --> 00:36:35,400
Clippers podcast. We're gonna have a full crew episode, I

670
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,960
believe on Monday. Here's to winning the next two games

671
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,960
because we are a serious team. It's a great way

672
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,199
to put it, all right. That's it. Have a good

673
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,079
rest of your weekend, everybody, And if you see me

674
00:36:48,119 --> 00:36:51,280
at Disneyland during the Blazers game, come say hey. Unless

675
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,639
the Clippers are losing. Bye, everybody, let's go Clip