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Speaker 1: Well, we have a great show for you today and

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right now for the first hour, someone who has not

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been with us for Yeah, it's been at least a year.

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I think a year. Gracie Gatto is here. Welcome, Hello, welcome.

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You gotta just pull that pull that up a little bit. Yeah,

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you're right.

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Speaker 2: Right to your face, I feel like, the only face

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that makes you feel weird.

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Speaker 3: Then you got it in the right place.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 4: There you got the boner here.

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Speaker 1: Well that that reminds me. Today's show is audio only. So, Gracie,

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what have you What have you been up to? It's

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it's kind of a general question, but it has been

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over a year since since we've seen you, and uh,

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and you do have a very interesting project we're going

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to talk about. But uh, what's been going on?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's been grim the past year. So I've been

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I kind of disappeared. I was my mother's caregiver for

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a year.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, that so yeah, so you mentioned so sorry

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to hear about your mom.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she passed away and it was it was rough,

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but it took me out of you know, making whatever,

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you know, my projects. Yeah, so eventually I'm working on

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something called Adam's world, and it is a television a

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child a children's television show celebrating your diversity. Okay, so

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did you know that one out of thirty six children

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in the United States has autism or a form of

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or on the spectrum.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know it was that many.

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But but I'm not surprised in a sense because I

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do know, uh, and you know, I only know a

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little bit about the subject, but I do know that

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they've gotten much better at identifying autism than they used

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to be.

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Speaker 2: Certainly right, and yeah, I'm definitely on a spectrum myself.

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So there's not really good representation out there. I've seen

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the television shows and uh, they all seem a little robotic,

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are just sort of like an android type character. They

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weren't really like charismatic, and you know, having to deal

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with you know, working with children who have autism, you

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got them all over the place. You got some really

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charismatic kids who are just obsessed with one thing, you know.

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Speaker 4: So I made that a part of the show.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So we have Adam, who's my son, and he

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is autistic, nonverbal, and there is absolutely zero representation. And

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I'm noticing that a lot of other mothers have come

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up to me saying, hey, my kid's autistic nonverbal. I

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thought I was the only one. Oh okay, and oh

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I thought I was the only one. And wait a minute,

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you're gonna make a TV show with a kid who can't.

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Speaker 1: Talk, and just and just so, just so we're clear.

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So when you say nonverbal, no, no speech at all,

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no speech at all, okay, wow.

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Speaker 2: But he understands everything and he uses the talking device. Okay,

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So I made that?

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Speaker 4: What was that?

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Speaker 1: Jen?

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Speaker 4: M Oh, yeah, that face, like, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: Jen?

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Speaker 5: Oh no, no, I'm doing other things. Oh well, you

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guys are Yeah, don't look at my face.

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Speaker 4: It looked like some really bad news over there.

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Speaker 2: So so yeah, it just I came up with three

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characters and it kind of sets up the whole show,

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and it's you know, Adam doesn't speak, but he can

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touch things and upload information directly to his brain and

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a lot of internal dialogue. Ok So that's how I

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get around the whole not talking thing, because the audience

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and the kids are in on a secret, and that

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is they are super geniuses, only they got to play

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dumb for the adults. Interesting, so you know, everybody's in

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on it, but the teachers, you know, so it's it's

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really cute. And you know, we got one character who's Sam,

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who is obsessed with numbers, and I've seen that before

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where it's like everything is numerical. The girl Zoe, some

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little blonde pigtails, you know, she runs really fast, and

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she can run so fast she can travel through time.

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So it sets up the premise for many adventures. Okay, yeah, okay,

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So I pitched.

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Speaker 4: This already to PBS kids.

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Speaker 2: I'm waiting to hear back for somebody soon, and I'm

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doing the Kickstarter too.

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Speaker 4: I'm getting a lot of the you.

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Speaker 2: Know, people involved in the autism community as well, So

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you know, LA, and I'm getting the LA side and

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really interesting and really really exciting.

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Speaker 1: That's great. Yeah, that's great. Yeah. I saw on your

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website the clip that you had posted, and how like,

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what is the process in terms of so basically you're

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pitching this to say to PBS and others.

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Speaker 3: What is that?

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Speaker 1: What is that process? Like, what is the process of

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pitching a series?

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Speaker 2: Essentially, basically, it's just what I'm doing right now. I'm

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this is sort of like a pitch, you know, you

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talk about who it's for, why it needs to exist,

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and and just kind of go from there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like it's a lot to take on.

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you know, just like going out into the marketplace and

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pitching it. That almost sounds like more challenging than making

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the actual content. Yeah it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but luckily there's a hole in media that hasn't

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been filled yet. Yeah, so hopefully I'll get a bunch

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of copycats and we can help autistic children feel more

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together and less uh you know, ostracized.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, is this an idea that you've had for a

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while to do this?

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Speaker 2: I've had it for a while, I just haven't really

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done anything with it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So at first, it was like, you know, something I

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him on his tablet and make little cartoons and stuff,

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and he would love it, loved it. And then and

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the whole like, you know, the political stuff, Like I

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just pulled the plug on that for now.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I want to go back to that.

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a lost cause.

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Speaker 2: And children, you know, you can help them question reality,

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question where they come from and why things are the

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way they are.

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Speaker 4: There's still hope for the kids, so to speak. Yeah,

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you know, I don't do that.

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Speaker 1: The political side, Yeah, they're gone, they're gone.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but the children are great.

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Speaker 2: I love working with children, and especially you know after

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a major death, you know, it really helps heal the hearts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. Have you done anything like that before involving

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a cartoon project or I know you've done you know

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you're from LA and yeah, you've done a lot of things.

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Speaker 4: Well, I dated a lot of animators. That helps. And

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England area, and they seem really excited.

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Speaker 4: So that's another thing I'm pitching too.

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Speaker 2: The story takes place in New England, in you know,

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Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah that makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense.

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Is the idea that every uh so, will every episode

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be a full length thirty minute episode or twenty two minutes.

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curious about dinosaurs they will see them for themselves.

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characters can go so fast she time travels. Yeah, now

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that's uh, yeah, there is. I can't think of anything

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I've ever seen quite like what you're what you're doing.

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the market for that, right.

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Excuse me, readjust myself here. Yeah, they have something close.

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And I think there's a show called Attorney Wu Okay

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that's on Netflix. Yeah, I was doing my market research.

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I was watching it, and it's like, you know, she

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is basically unable to live her life normally, but she

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the law is kind of like her superhuman power. Yeah,

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you know, she can recite things really fast, and that's

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the way the autism world works.

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Speaker 4: But it just wasn't as fun.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's like a legal drama, but God as

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solve everything like Matt Locke.

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Speaker 1: Right, and.

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Speaker 4: It just disconjoined.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Yeah. It's nice too though, that we live

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the possibilities in terms of where you could go with it,

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because of streaming, you know, I mean Netflix has a

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million different shows, and you know, you've got all these

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streaming services. You could even you know, put it, you

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imagine it's kind of like, well, you know, something will

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work out, you know what I mean, Eventually something will

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real children, and that's something I want to do eventually,

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where we could do sweepstakes to get written in to

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the show, like someone who did something awesome and neuro divergent.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's it just makes you fall into the spectrum. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Just you know, you're just neuro diversion. You're you can't

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you have sensory overload.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it happens.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I think I have that too, and

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you know I don't and a lot of people do

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when they go into crowds all of a sudden, they

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just feel like overwhelmed, right, Yeah, you know I can

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well, you know, as you mentioned earlier, there's

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a spectrum obviously, and you know the ways that autism,

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the ways that they're able to identify autism, they've gotten

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much better at it, which I I often will point

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out to people. You know, there's people with their weird

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conspiracy theories about it all.

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Speaker 4: And vaccines cause autism. That's the big one. That's the

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big one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, we don't know all that. We don't know

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when when my son got diagnosed as a mother. I

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took it hard because I thought it was something I did.

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Speaker 1: Maybe.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's just something a mother does.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, that makes sense.

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Speaker 4: But no, he is a brilliant, smart kid and he

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loves his song Adam's World.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so he's like, that's mine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, But I want to bring it to

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other children who need that, you know, Like I want

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Speaker 4: Guys really involved in this.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, whoever's left, you know, And it's great because

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and they're like, oh my god, I could do something

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a smile on my face versus what I was doing before,

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which was turning me into a monster too unplugged, unsubscribe. Yeah,

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so this is so much more fun.

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do politics on the show, and we stopped that, and

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now we keep that separate from what we do here

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I do think it benefited me.

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it's it's not a good look, and I think that

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we need to get back to humanity and less of this.

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this enough of that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Enough? Yeah? Absolutely, absolutely, I agree. Do you find

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that in terms of well, how old is Adam?

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happy birthday at him.

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still a lot to learn about autism? Is there still

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a lot that they don't know?

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Speaker 4: Or I had to tell you the truth? We're learning

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with the kids.

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a shout out to Nottingham West Elementary School because they

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go above and beyond for my kid that. I mean,

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it's the state pace ward, it's not a private school.

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Speaker 2: So but they go above and beyond help children. So

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Speaker 4: You know, he's a different kid really.

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his top little goose, you know. Yeah, now he gets dirty,

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you know, because public schools get a bad rap.

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but now totally blown away.

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it's you know, it's a challenge. You know, I mean

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an autistic is Adam your only child?

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Speaker 4: My only child?

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, so I wanted uh well it was

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really crazy. So I was missing for a year and

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a half and I have I was caregiving to my mother,

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taking care of my autistic kid, so I had like

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zero time to myself. Yeah, and you know, when she

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I would do these little animation things. Yeah, and it

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Speaker 1: Okay, like you know I.

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Speaker 1: You done anything like that before. On your you know

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you mentioned you had dated some animators.

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of that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: This is my first time ever doing children's television, so

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I don't know. I mean I'm spiling a lot more

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so that goes to show you I'm doing something right.

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help help, so I need to do one polished pilot

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and that's gonna be our vehicle to you know, shoot

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to the top. I'm actually I got in touch with

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the CEO of New Balance because I was thinking about

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doing product titans and since Zoe's sneakers light up, which

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she's about the time travel, I thought that might be

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something that we can kind of team up on. I

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is and it's you know, everybody knows someone with autism,

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so I just styled it could be a good tie

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in and for Autism Awareness months, you know, we'll have

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a special brand sneakers that happened to look just like

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Zoe's in the show Excellent.

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Speaker 1: When is When is Autism Awareness Month? June June? Okay? Okay, yeah,

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I didn't even know there was. Well, no, it makes

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sense that actually, I think I do remember hearing that

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there was an autism awareness month.

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Speaker 2: There's hope there's an awareness month for everything. I think

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there's a peanut butter holiday too, and.

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Speaker 1: Well as as there should be. When was how soon

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was Adam diagnosed after he was born? Because obviously you

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don't you don't know right away, right he was three

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three okay.

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Speaker 4: The heat was in babbling okay, And.

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the first indicators where you really kind of figure out

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that there's there's something here as if they're not.

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Speaker 2: And he would have like these attacks, like panic attacks.

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and he started pulling his hair up.

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Speaker 4: So that's when we got.

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just being aggressive to him, like he like almost like

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I hate myself. Oh yeah, you know, or I don't

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want to say I hate myself.

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Speaker 2: So when we got him help, yeah, they we got

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him diagnosed, and sure enough, he was a textbook So

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he's got ADHD and you know autism. Yeah, but he's

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shocked his attack that he could see the wheel spinning.

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you know, little things like that, and it breaks your heart.

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Speaker 1: Does does he learn very fast? Yeah? Yeah, I don't

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know if you know doctor Kevin. He's a Nashua doctor

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Kevin ross Emory. He's been on the show and he

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he's done a lot of work in add and ADHD

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and he's written some books about it. And actually one

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of the books he's written it's called Managing the Gift,

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and it's about how he calls it a gift because

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you know a d D or ADHD. It's like, uh,

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have that or they're on the spectrum. Yeah, you know,

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so there are ways to.

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Speaker 4: Talking to the to the expert. So yeah, leave me

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his name, that'll be great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of I talked to someone who's his

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name is Ellen Armie and he is the head of

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an organization for autistic children. He put me in touch

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with someone named Elaine Hall, who was a a list

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acting coach and she eventually had a kid with autism

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and she started using those methods acting methods. Yeah, and

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it started to work and he got out of a

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shell using you know, the ad L stuff, and you know,

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it really worked out. So now she's kind of like

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a big deal now in the autism community. And you know,

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she just happened to have an autistic kid and who knew, right.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: So I am been emailing back and forth and a

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lot of people are you know, just they're excited about

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the projects because we need something positive in this world.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so like at least.

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Speaker 2: I do as a creator, you know, like you want to,

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you know, go home and say, you know what, I

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did my job.

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Speaker 4: And I actually went as far.

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one of the head animators of the of Ductails.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: However, I was.

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Speaker 2: Like googling him like a weird fan, you know, like

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who the hell looks for old animators from back in

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the day, right right, And I was like, okay, I

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got his name, I got his number. Cool, and the

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link next to him right after on Google it was

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a goalfund me and I click on it and he's

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in hospice and I'm like, ah, it's terrible. So uh yeah,

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but I've been talking to the old guys though. Yeah,

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it makes it more fun because once I get them excited,

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I could see their wheels turning, like, oh.

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Speaker 4: I've done this and that and this and that. So

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it's just really great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Sometimes you know, all it takes is one person

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to give you just a little bit of information or

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an idea and you just never know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it really is like being a showrunner really

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is like being in a band. You need your guitar player,

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you neat your drummer, you need your bass, do you

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need your lead singer? Get together and make music. And

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if one of you guys is off, the whole band

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is off. Right, So I am putting together a band

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right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, excellent, excellent. What have you been doing anything

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else in terms of creative stuff or have you been

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solely focused on on the series.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was doing another kind of puppet show, but

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we can't talk about that. Oh that was just for

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fun though, I was testing.

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Speaker 1: The Yeah, that's for Matt Connor to unsheathed. That's a

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very different show.

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Speaker 4: That's a very different show.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and it's it's not available on FM radio.

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Speaker 4: But but yes, let's stick to the kids.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I was curious because you've done a lot,

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you know, a lot of radio, a lot of radio

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back in La especially, and right, and and what else.

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It seems like you've done You've done a lot of

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voiceover work too, right.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so I turn them out, just turn them out,

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like whenever comes my way.

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Speaker 4: I need this, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I've been surviving on that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well you've got a lot of experience. And uh,

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how how long have you been in New Hamptire? How

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has it been ten years? No, it's been six, it's

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been six.

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Speaker 2: I'm acclimated, you know, Like no, before I used to

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be such a wuss and like now it's like I'm

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walking around with T shirt and shorts and checking my

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mail and snowing outside, you know, like I've come a

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long way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. John Hopwood is who introduced us, right, yes, all right?

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Speaker 4: Whatever happened to Hoppy?

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Speaker 1: I think he's around. Uh, Jenny, didn't the Hammers say

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that John?

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Speaker 3: They recently had had that he was with him.

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Speaker 1: He was back in Manchester?

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Speaker 4: I thought so.

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Speaker 3: I thought I heard that, But he hasn't reached out

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to us yet.

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Speaker 1: He's very mysterious, that John Hopwood. He's a mysterious character.

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But that's right, that's how we met.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we met John.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah, so you've you've grown too, You've grown

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to like it here.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And I enjoy driving again thanks to me, I'm sure,

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because in La it's stopping stop.

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Speaker 4: Literally.

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Speaker 2: I had like these these big thighs of muscle in

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my abs because it will stop it stop it go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh yeah, and.

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Speaker 4: The gear you could just kind of like put put

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it and you're cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think I'm spoiled. I don't want to

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drive in California.

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here too, have gotten easier, so that probably helps climate

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change because I grew up here, and uh, the winters

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are definitely easier than when I was a kid.

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Speaker 4: I keep hearing that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, oh it's yeah, there's no getting It's

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not subtle. No, it's not as subtle as some people

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pretend it is. It's it's very obvious. And and I

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00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,920
remember my dad's telling me that the winters are easier

477
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,480
here than when he was a kid, Like he noticed

478
00:21:46,519 --> 00:21:48,440
in the in the eighties. Yeah, he said, Oh, the

479
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,039
winter's here seemed to be easier than when I was

480
00:21:50,079 --> 00:21:50,480
a kid.

481
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,640
Speaker 2: So no, but there's still a real possibility if you

482
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:54,640
don't have the right gear, you.

483
00:21:54,599 --> 00:21:55,400
Speaker 4: Could freeze to death.

484
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 1: Oh sure, Oh yeah.

485
00:21:56,519 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 4: We don't want to give off like we're like the

486
00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,599
New Florida, right.

487
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 1: No, no, no, We're a long way from that. And

488
00:22:02,519 --> 00:22:04,400
I don't want to get to that because I know

489
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,720
what that means, because I am concerned. But in the moment,

490
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:08,319
I enjoy it.

491
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 4: Geez.

492
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,079
Speaker 1: We had one winter here, was it, I think twenty

493
00:22:11,079 --> 00:22:13,599
seventeen where winter just didn't show up at all, and

494
00:22:13,759 --> 00:22:15,519
like it barely snowed and it never got cold. It

495
00:22:15,559 --> 00:22:16,160
was incredible.

496
00:22:16,319 --> 00:22:19,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it created a lot of sleet. I didn't

497
00:22:19,079 --> 00:22:19,720
appreciate that.

498
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Sleet's not good. Sleet's not good.

499
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 4: I found a new use for kitty litter because it's sleet.

500
00:22:25,519 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, what to just put the floor?

501
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, to get traction with your wheels. Okay, yeah, yeah, no,

502
00:22:33,319 --> 00:22:34,599
I didn't know that until I moved here.

503
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,839
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, does anyone from the West Coast come out

504
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:38,359
to visit you?

505
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 4: Yes? I recently had my both my sisters come.

506
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,319
Speaker 1: Oh excellent, excellent. Do they do when they get here?

507
00:22:44,319 --> 00:22:45,759
Are they like, it's cold here? What do you do?

508
00:22:45,839 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 2: The first thing my sister said was, we're all the

509
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,160
homeless people? Oh really, Well they're in La from LA

510
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,960
and it's like mad Max over there by comparison.

511
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they were like, where are the homeless people?

512
00:22:57,279 --> 00:22:58,480
I'm like Manchester. U.

513
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's definitely a problem here, but probably

514
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,480
nothing like La. Right. I mean you see the.

515
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,839
Speaker 2: Picture looks flag posts apocalyptic now, yeah, it's it's pretty sad.

516
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,599
Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you get back out there to visit?

517
00:23:11,279 --> 00:23:11,759
Speaker 4: Not really?

518
00:23:11,839 --> 00:23:11,880
Speaker 1: No.

519
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, the mom's thing was pretty rough, and I don't

520
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,839
think I'm gonna be going back for what Yeah.

521
00:23:17,799 --> 00:23:23,079
Speaker 1: No, that makes sense, that makes sense. Have you been

522
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,079
Uh so you've been working on the h on the cartoon.

523
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,519
Are you doing that by yourself? And I mean obviously

524
00:23:31,519 --> 00:23:33,279
you're you know, you're trying to get other people involved,

525
00:23:33,279 --> 00:23:35,680
but so far as anyone like fully involved in the

526
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,839
animation or anything, or are you literally doing this all?

527
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,319
Speaker 2: I'm doing this all on my own as of now.

528
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,160
But they tell me be patient because after the holidays.

529
00:23:45,039 --> 00:23:48,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna work. Yeah, we'll work, We'll work it out.

530
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I I mean, the the stuff I have

531
00:23:51,279 --> 00:23:54,519
on my website, you know, on grasigotto dot com is

532
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,039
basically just like what I would give to the networks

533
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,240
is basically it's okay, kind of like a it's like

534
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,160
a visual thing that it's not the solid end product.

535
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 1: Okay. So no, it looks really good though, And you know,

536
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,519
as someone who so I have no I've always been

537
00:24:10,559 --> 00:24:13,119
fascinated by animation in the sense that I'm kind of

538
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,440
fascinated by anything that I know that I can't do,

539
00:24:16,279 --> 00:24:20,319
Like I have no visual artistic ability whatsoever. I can't draw,

540
00:24:20,599 --> 00:24:22,039
Like if you ask me to draw a person, I

541
00:24:22,039 --> 00:24:23,759
could draw you a stick figure. That's the best I

542
00:24:23,759 --> 00:24:26,200
could do. I look at Jenny's artwork and I'm amazed

543
00:24:26,279 --> 00:24:29,000
or the macromea that she does, cause it's amazing to

544
00:24:29,039 --> 00:24:31,200
me because my brain, I always say this, my brain

545
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,920
can't do the math, like with the macroma that's geometry.

546
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,880
My brain can't do the geometry. So I'm always, you know,

547
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,119
really interested when I look at things that I can't do,

548
00:24:41,279 --> 00:24:43,640
like animation, Like like I look at you know, I

549
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,759
watched the clip on your website and it's like, how

550
00:24:45,799 --> 00:24:47,960
do you even how do you even draw that? Like,

551
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,799
because my brain wouldn't be able to figure it out,

552
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:51,440
you know what I mean?

553
00:24:51,519 --> 00:24:53,079
Speaker 4: Well, the the kids.

554
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 2: I used my son's face as a model, Okay, so

555
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,759
I got a picture of him when he was seven, Okay,

556
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,480
and you know, so I didn't mock up there, kind

557
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,559
of change it up a bit and yeah, and then

558
00:25:04,599 --> 00:25:07,839
I got uh, I'd lost so much time playing with

559
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,200
animation tools, you know, like the actual like drawing, because

560
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,279
I used to doodle a lot.

561
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 4: I'm an oil painter.

562
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,279
Speaker 2: Okay, So that was just like the natural progression. And

563
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,440
there's some magic that happens when you get the lip

564
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,759
sync going, and then you get the voice, and then

565
00:25:24,799 --> 00:25:27,519
you get the background music and when that you get

566
00:25:27,519 --> 00:25:28,680
that that trifecta.

567
00:25:29,599 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 4: They're alive. It's they're alive.

568
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, do you I mean, do you do you

569
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,720
use software? To forgive my ignorance? But no, just very curious,

570
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,640
like do you use software to help you create the

571
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,720
scenes or are you are you doing it like old school?

572
00:25:47,759 --> 00:25:49,240
Like are you actually hand drawing everything?

573
00:25:49,279 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 2: No, I'm not hand drawing anything. I actually I've been

574
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,480
using AI kind of help out. And you know, people

575
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,720
go boo, but it's it's the cats out of the bag.

576
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,519
Speaker 4: It's here, yes, and they're snow avoiding it right right.

577
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 2: I think a friend of mine pointed out a car

578
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,799
commercial was like blatantly easing Aire.

579
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,039
Speaker 4: So basically AI has enabled me become ten people instead

580
00:26:10,039 --> 00:26:10,400
of one.

581
00:26:10,559 --> 00:26:10,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

582
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:15,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, So the scripts are mine though, the ideas are mine,

583
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:20,960
but they're simply it's like having an assistant that's on speed. Right,

584
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,000
So like the second I want something, I got it. Okay, cool,

585
00:26:24,079 --> 00:26:26,839
and I'll just incorporate that. So it's like mixing. It's

586
00:26:26,839 --> 00:26:29,640
like mixing a stew. You get all the ingredients from

587
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,240
you know, television shows, I could say Ducktails where they

588
00:26:32,599 --> 00:26:35,720
time travel and they teach kids how to think, you know,

589
00:26:36,039 --> 00:26:37,720
get it, Get a little bit of that, you get

590
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,599
a little bit of this, a little bit of that. Yeah,

591
00:26:39,599 --> 00:26:42,039
and you just kind of make a stew and it's

592
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:43,599
something completely brand new.

593
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 4: That's something that's really awesome. I even wrote the theme song.

594
00:26:47,759 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: Did okay?

595
00:26:49,079 --> 00:26:49,559
Speaker 3: Very cool?

596
00:26:49,839 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: That's awesome. That's awesome. The other characters, because there's there's

597
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,160
two other characters that I saw on the website. Yes,

598
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,640
are those based on real kids or those completely?

599
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,039
Speaker 4: So I did?

600
00:27:04,279 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 2: I did know I do know, so a kid who's

601
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,680
obsessed with numbers, obsessed you know, like how many like

602
00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:12,559
things that you wouldn't even think about, like how many

603
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,400
teeth are in a mouth or you know, just Okay,

604
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,279
that's kind of quirky, but that could work for the

605
00:27:18,319 --> 00:27:23,000
show because they need to calculate speed time to get

606
00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:24,680
and you know, how to get from point A to

607
00:27:24,759 --> 00:27:27,200
point b. You know, so they're going to need math

608
00:27:27,279 --> 00:27:33,799
to learn numbers. Adam's internal dialogue is he upslolds everything,

609
00:27:34,599 --> 00:27:38,759
but you know he has a super dome that kind

610
00:27:38,799 --> 00:27:43,079
of teaches you what everything means. Yeah, so it's like

611
00:27:43,079 --> 00:27:45,079
a super dome kind of like a third eye kind

612
00:27:45,079 --> 00:27:48,480
of situation happening where he's projecting, you know, what he's

613
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,559
getting and you know, so it's great.

614
00:27:51,559 --> 00:27:53,079
Speaker 4: So I got the trio so far.

615
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,319
Speaker 2: And you know, they're going to get into adventures and

616
00:27:55,519 --> 00:27:58,319
you know, we're even talking about like possibly having them

617
00:27:58,319 --> 00:27:59,279
grow up eventually.

618
00:27:59,599 --> 00:28:00,559
Speaker 4: They're in a fourth grade.

619
00:28:00,599 --> 00:28:04,279
Speaker 2: Now, hey, my powers are getting stronger, you know, and

620
00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:07,039
maybe it could lead up to something different.

621
00:28:06,759 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: Like e that's a cool concept too, because I'm trying

622
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,839
to think. I'm trying to think, is there another cartoon

623
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,359
or another animated show where where the characters actually do

624
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,960
grow up, and I feel like there must be something

625
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,440
Self Park did it? Oh did they?

626
00:28:23,599 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 4: And The Simpsons did they?

627
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: I haven't watched either of those and so long.

628
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a couple of episodes where you know they're

629
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:31,759
all grown up.

630
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,519
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, but not but not over a span

631
00:28:34,559 --> 00:28:36,200
of time where they got older.

632
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:40,519
Speaker 2: And right, yeah, yeah, or maybe I mean things are open.

633
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,920
I mean, maybe they can get out of their animation

634
00:28:43,039 --> 00:28:47,319
bodies and become full right, you know, action motion you

635
00:28:47,319 --> 00:28:48,599
know characters.

636
00:28:48,319 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: Right right, But I like that. I like that idea though. Yeah,

637
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,480
you know, they go from one grade to the next

638
00:28:54,519 --> 00:28:55,799
and and.

639
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: What to expect, and you know, teachers are new, teachers

640
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,440
are scary, Substitute teachers are kind of cool. But I

641
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,480
don't really know, right you know, yeah, you know we're

642
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,160
going to get into that. And all those little things

643
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,920
matter when you're autistic. Yeah, any little change is like,

644
00:29:10,039 --> 00:29:10,960
you know, detrimentally.

645
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,039
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean even for you know, for anybody. Yeah,

646
00:29:14,119 --> 00:29:16,200
those things matter. So yeah, so I would imagine for

647
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,759
an autistic child, I can see where that would really

648
00:29:18,759 --> 00:29:20,000
be some heavy stuff to deal with.

649
00:29:20,119 --> 00:29:22,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it was an honest question to myself, like,

650
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,960
you know, am I gonna continue one with the division

651
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:26,519
of people?

652
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,519
Speaker 4: Or am I going to make something that's going to

653
00:29:28,599 --> 00:29:29,599
help of course?

654
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think that's uh. I think that's fantastic. Yeah,

655
00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:38,039
so in the new year, you expect things will really

656
00:29:38,079 --> 00:29:40,759
start moving with it. Yeah, what's kind of your what's

657
00:29:40,759 --> 00:29:43,599
what's kind of your dream? Uh? Like where would you

658
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,559
most like to see it? Like Netflix or where would

659
00:29:46,599 --> 00:29:47,640
you most like to see.

660
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 2: This, lamb, I would love to see it anywhere. Really,

661
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,559
it's just long as uh. You know, it gives children

662
00:29:53,559 --> 00:29:54,200
and identity.

663
00:29:54,359 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you mentioned PBS, which seems like a

664
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,039
perfect fit.

665
00:29:57,119 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 4: It is a perfect fit.

666
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 2: There's always Netflix or Hulu. I have an agent working

667
00:30:01,039 --> 00:30:04,680
on it. So basically we're trying to create like some

668
00:30:04,759 --> 00:30:09,119
kind of a bidding situation in January to where it lands.

669
00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:12,720
It's as soon as January.

670
00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: Oh that's exciting.

671
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is exciting, except for Hanka got in the way.

672
00:30:17,319 --> 00:30:21,720
So so my Jewish animaters are the Alfred the Count

673
00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:26,920
and you know, my Christian friends are like, we're not

674
00:30:27,079 --> 00:30:28,839
working until January second.

675
00:30:29,359 --> 00:30:30,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's.

676
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 2: Like, okay, I lost you both. Great, So it's just

677
00:30:33,559 --> 00:30:37,440
me for now I there are the holidays. I get it,

678
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,799
and you know, I'm a showrunner, so I'm just constantly working, working,

679
00:30:40,799 --> 00:30:41,759
working through the holidays.

680
00:30:41,839 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: By the way, for people who don't know what's a

681
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:43,960
show runner.

682
00:30:44,279 --> 00:30:48,119
Speaker 2: A showrunner is someone who is creating a show and

683
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,079
the person who has the actual vision, the overall vision.

684
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,200
So it's basically like being the CEO of a company,

685
00:30:56,799 --> 00:31:00,839
you know, so, but we're all moving working vital parts

686
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:01,400
to the show.

687
00:31:01,799 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: It's a very it's it's kind of a literal term

688
00:31:03,759 --> 00:31:07,000
show runner. You literally are running a show. I feel like,

689
00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:12,200
and you would know, having with with your experience and

690
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,799
having been in la I feel like I didn't always

691
00:31:14,839 --> 00:31:17,000
hear that term. I feel like I started hearing the

692
00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:19,480
term showrunner like twenty years ago and then and then

693
00:31:19,559 --> 00:31:22,759
before that, it was always producer or something. But I

694
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,480
feel like the am I right about that? Or is

695
00:31:25,519 --> 00:31:26,720
that just my weird perception?

696
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: No, I don't know, I think because you know everybody's

697
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,559
I don't know, I honestly can't answer that.

698
00:31:32,799 --> 00:31:34,119
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a newer term.

699
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,359
Speaker 2: It's I've always heard showrunner because it was kind of

700
00:31:37,359 --> 00:31:40,920
like going back to the circus, you know, like you're

701
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,119
the showrunner of the Circus. Yeah, I think I think

702
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,039
it was kind of being facetious and it just kind

703
00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:45,720
of stuck.

704
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

705
00:31:47,319 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 4: Or I'm the you know, the I'm the person in

706
00:31:49,359 --> 00:31:51,160
charge of this, you know show.

707
00:31:53,319 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: What? Uh so you've got Do you have other projects

708
00:31:56,519 --> 00:31:58,519
that you're thinking about doing in addition to this or

709
00:31:58,559 --> 00:31:59,839
you're completely focused.

710
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 2: On completely hyper focused on this one. Yeah, that's the

711
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,319
way it has to be for each project. Otherwise you're

712
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spread on teeth in and people see right through it,

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especially the audience when you're half asking anything, you know, like,

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you know, they're pretty intelligent enough to pick that up.

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Speaker 1: Right of course, of course, Well, very cool, very cool.

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Now we should mention too though. Like you said, you know,

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you take things that come your way. So you are

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available for voiceover work and things like oh absolutely, yeah yeah,

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And how how can people find you for that?

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Speaker 2: Go to Grasiegatto dot com, send me an email and

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we will talk consultation.

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Speaker 4: Hum what you want? You know, I'm pretty affordable.

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Speaker 1: What's the strangest one you've had? Oh?

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Speaker 2: God, the first one is the one that traumatized me

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was uh.

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Speaker 4: Moan my IP?

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Speaker 1: Is that something we can I'm very curious. Now is

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that something we can explain on a Saturday morning? Okay,

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but it was something.

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Speaker 2: Sort of moaned MYIP dot com. Okay, I did some

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voiceover for that.

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Speaker 4: Haven't admitted to that.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, ever does that? Does that still exist?

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I haven't checked. It's been years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna check here at

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the station's computer.

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Speaker 2: And I did the voiceover of this clown killer thriller.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so basically I am, uh, screaming for my life, yeah,

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as this clown is undressing me.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so that was probably the grossest voiceover.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, I don't even.

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Speaker 4: Know if that was used. Yeah, but I got paid

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for it.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's cool. Yeah yeah, but.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean voiceovers can go from anything from like

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jingles to you know radio stations like three, you know

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FL So it really depends. And I noticed that when

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they cast, they like people who have broadcasting experience because

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actors can't fake that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So it's like that's why they go.

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Speaker 2: With the newscasters in film, you know, the newscasters whoever's available.

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Speaker 1: Right right, No, it makes sense, that makes sense. Have

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you done any that I would have heard, like any

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that are like really like like mainstream commercials or anything.

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Speaker 4: That I can think of that's still around.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's just funny to think about it.

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I may have heard your voice somewhere before I probably

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before we met you.

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Speaker 4: Probably, I don't know. There is a lot.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot if you ever had to say no

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to something like somebody comes to you with a voiceover

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project and it's just too weird.

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Speaker 2: No, it's all about making copy work. But the only

766
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time I've said no is when they're too demanding and

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they want me.

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Speaker 4: To charge less.

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Speaker 2: So it's like practically like you know, fifty cents an

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hour kind of thing. Oh yeah, it's like no, dude, No.

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Speaker 4: They're like, well, we're to go somewhere else.

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Speaker 1: Thank bye.

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Speaker 4: Yeah right exactly. Yeah yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's wild.

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Speaker 2: So please, please, please, whoever's listening, go to Graciecotto dot com,

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or please donate some money to Kickstarter so we can

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get that episode going.

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Speaker 5: So we now is g r a c I e

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g a t o dot com?

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Speaker 1: You got it?

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Speaker 5: I want to make sure people know how to spell it.

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G A c I e g a t o dot com?

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Speaker 4: Got it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Well, and Marriam actually was just asking about spelling it.

786
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One of our listeners who's actually a paraprofessional herself and

787
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very active in the autism community.

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Speaker 4: Oh, send me an email. Let's talk.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, you hear that, Miriam, she'd like to talk. We'll

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make sure that. I will make sure.

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Speaker 2: Actually, I'm just trying to get everybody involved, parents to UH, educators,

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entertainment industry. It's amazing how many high ranking entertainment industry

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executives have children with autism.

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Speaker 5: True, so it touches many families. Yeah, many, many families.

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Speaker 1: And it's interesting too to think about how many people

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don't realize.

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Speaker 2: It, right, you know, and you know, why not make

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a Saturday morning cartoon to make them feel better?

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think that's awesome.

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Speaker 4: I really do.

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Speaker 1: I think that's No, I think that's fantastic. Well, Gracie,

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I'm really glad you came in today. It's wonderful to

804
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see you.

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Speaker 4: Good to see you, and Jen, good to see you.

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Speaker 1: We might won't hold you to it.

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Speaker 3: I don't have to wait for over a year the

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next time to come back.

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Speaker 4: No, that was a crazy circumstance.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's understandable.

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Speaker 3: But we love to have you. We love to see you,

812
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and I know our listeners love you.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully next month I'm going to get the I'm gonna

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get the call and I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 4: Guess what, guys, I got green lit.

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Speaker 3: I got green lit.

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Speaker 1: You know, we definitely have to have you back and

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then definitely.

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Speaker 2: You know, I do want to promote New Hampshire in

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New England, and I mean the whole story takes place there,

821
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they go to school, and the backdrop. I made sure

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that it was like typical New England.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, look it looks like that and what I watched, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of what I'm presenting to is a little

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bit of a New Hampshire pride so to speak.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I think that's I think that's awesome.

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And Gracie Gato, thank you so much, thank you for

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having me