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Speaker 2: When your old career gives you lemons, throwing some ice

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mix in some vodkas. Colored a podcast from the Mac

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of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by Victor

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Chrysler Dots Jeep Ram. It's Billified the Bill Moran Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on. Thank

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you for telling a friend. That's how we spread the

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word about the pirate ship. Oh, the future Billy Buffalo

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is in the studio.

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Speaker 1: His name is Dan. Do you see they're auditioning for

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Billy Buffalo. Oh no, they are, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,

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they're auditioning for a new Billy Buffalo.

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Speaker 4: Why would happened to the old one?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: There's only thirty two of those jobs to the NFL.

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I think should Should I get out of here and

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drive the Buffalo?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 4: I'd be a great Billy Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: I know this.

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Speaker 4: This Billy Buffalo's been pretty bland and boring. I already

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loses like two pounds a day of training camp. I'm

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not joking.

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Speaker 1: Really.

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Speaker 4: When I was a Bill's intern, they said he averaged

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losing because it was so hot and that. But back

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then training camp was a month long. They had double

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sessions and he lost about two pounds a day.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 4: So I mean, if you want to lose weight and

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get paid, yeah, Billy Buffalo might be the way to go.

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Speaker 1: Getting down for summer baby bus Hbo hard knocks, Doe

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shit kevalev Christier.

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Speaker 4: Billy Buffalo has been the Buffalo Bill's lexicon since nineteen

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ninety nine.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. I saw that and I go, oh, Damny,

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that would be a cool joke. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I

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think Matt Reese tagged Mark Killman. Yeah, he'd be a

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great he'd be a great Billy Buffalo. I don't know.

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I think I think he.

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Speaker 4: Beate, like flipping off McDermott in the game. You'd take

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off his hell butt start throwing it.

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Speaker 1: That's funny, Come on, that's funny. I don't know how

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long we'll go tonight. I apologize. I have not been

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a feeling well and I normally don't really get run

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down or sick, and but I moved.

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Speaker 4: It. And so, wow, have you taken the glutamine like

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I told you? No, it helps, It builds back your mico.

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I believe that, but I've been I've been taking a

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lot of it because I've been to so many funerals

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now everybody's like, I'm sorry, the coffee breath in your face,

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Eventually you're gonna get sick. So I've been taking it.

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I've been fine.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know what happened. I got run down.

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Place is still a mess. Things are not away. I

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went right, you know, I've had other things I needed

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to do, and today even I went home and took

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a nap. I think I still have BedHead. I was

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just like burned out, just like kind of cooked. And

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it's one of these things with the move that I

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almost feel bad saying this, But my son Jordan came

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over to help me, and it was more at that

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point just cleaning out, like cleaning the oven, that sort

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of thing. And Jordan's like, Dad, you got a lot

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of grease on that door. He goes, I'll take care

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of it. And he goes. He takes takes out some

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baking soda, takes out some vinegar, and he really scrubbed it.

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place and just take the shower curtain and put it

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in this in the master bathroom, just put it in there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh that's cool.

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Speaker 1: Well that was part of the thing. I cannot share anymore.

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I can't, So I said, just go over there and

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and hang this. I go this, I said, you'll be

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able to tell just by looking at it. One side's

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the outside curtain. One side is the inside shower liner.

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It's not a plastic liner. It's one that I can

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wash and stuff and I do that once a month.

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I walk into the bathroom. The shower liner is on

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the outside, is on the outside.

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Speaker 4: And I know these guys not accustomed to having shower liners.

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Speaker 1: Is that? What? Well? Fuck they of course they are. Well,

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I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I would just Phil Sherman once when remember that time

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that me, Phil and Lumpy went to uh and Pat

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went to Toronto for the World Baseball Classic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Phil Sherman had never been accustomed to showering with a

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shower lining, so he let the shower lining outside the

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tub and all the water flooded the floor.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know you could do that. That's what

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it was. It was supposed to be out.

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Speaker 4: No, it's supposed to catch the water and go drain

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into the tub. Right, that's a mistake I made when

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I was twelve, so I I not thirty.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, so then I go in there and I said, buddy,

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he goes, I'll fix it. Fix it. He goes back.

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Now on the top, the goats on the rod, the

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clips that I have have small ball bearings. Okay, so

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it can roll back and forth nice and easily. Right,

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they're still upside down and all twists, And I go,

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how does this intelligent person?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 1: I go, how in the FD? I was shocked? I was.

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I actually got to know, and I shouldn't say anything,

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but I'm like that, just do it.

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Speaker 4: Like, so, have you ever heard of the hot crazy

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index when it comes to women. Yes, okay, there's the

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same thing with it. There's a common sense index when

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it comes to smart people. The smarter you are, the

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less common sense you have.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but this guy's got common sense. I think it

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was just like rushing not caring. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I have no idea because my wife tells me that,

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you know, for a smart person, I don't know about

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you sometimes and then she'll show the common sense where

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I've screwed up, like, oh, oh, that makes more sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was.

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Speaker 4: I was kind of like like a liner outside the

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shower type.

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Speaker 1: I was, well, this was the shower curtain on the inside,

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lining the tub and the shower liner. And I go, he,

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I couldn't tell what was what. I'm like, you can't

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tell what's what. It's not plastic, it's a cloth one,

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but it it's a whatever, Yeah, just a nicer. And

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I'm like, I'm looking at this stuff. And those were

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the things that are frustrating me. And then I've been

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battling like this summer cold. And I think I earlier

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and maybe last night I was running a fever. I

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could not get I could not get cool enough. This

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morning I took I felt like I was sweating all morning,

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took a shower, everything in sweating, a lot of that

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going around. I loaded up on vitamin C, garlic, ginger, lemon,

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crushed it all up, put it in there to cayenne pepper.

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Then I took decongested. Then I took advil, then I

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took tail and all and I felt great, and off

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I went. And then I started to doze off. So

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I took a red Bull dumb and then I wait

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and went again. Danny that's it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I could see that. I can totally see

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like they like we've talked before the show, like moving

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is one of the five most stressful moments of your life.

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And you said after I went through them that you've

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been through all of them.

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Speaker 1: Well it's funny because you ever see those lists of

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how many points did you score? Like you ever shoplift whatever?

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They have this list of things throughout your life, traveled here,

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been there? And I usually score fairly low on the.

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Speaker 4: Me too, broken a bone?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I don't think I have broken a bone.

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Speaker 4: I've never broken a bone.

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Speaker 1: So I might have like a low score. But when

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Dan's listening to that's what I was thinking of it. Oh,

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I've hit all those. Yeah, I've hit all those divorce.

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Speaker 4: Like divorce, moving, switching jobs, or getting fired, death of

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a family.

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Speaker 1: Member and not really yet what was what was the

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other one?

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Speaker 4: But I mean those are most of them. I mentioned divorce, right, Yeah,

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that's almost like two. So I mean, you know, gar

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getting married.

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Speaker 1: So I called Danny the other day having a kid.

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Did I say that? No, No you didn't, Okay, so

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having a kid, yeah I did. I called Danny the

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other day and I did not know.

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Speaker 4: How did I not know because you've been distracted? Yeah,

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but I was at my grandmother's funeral reception.

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Speaker 1: I go, I caught your I go.

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Speaker 4: This gotta be important. Billies. Billie gotta pretty stressed out.

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Speaker 1: What day was this?

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Speaker 4: Monday?

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Speaker 1: Monday?

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Speaker 4: It was poor and at least it wasn't in Silver Creek.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it rained on and off here, but I had

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movers come. They were done moving the furniture by eleven.

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We were done. It wasn't that dirty, so you were

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able to clean it pretty easily and just get everything out.

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So I think I was done to.

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Speaker 4: Who you talk to, Billy? Okay, what happened?

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Speaker 1: Well, I didn't know that that was I don't know how. Yeah,

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but I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't publicize this stuff.

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Speaker 1: I wish you had sent me a text.

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Speaker 4: No, that's okay, I did, I'll call you back.

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Speaker 1: I no, But then you call me back. Hey, Hey,

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we're just cleaning up from my grandmother's funeral, and I'm like, whoa,

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what was I calling to see if you could come

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in on a Tuesday? Yeah? Yeah, I was going to

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not do something I know you'll never like. And then

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I bailed. Yeah, but I would not have called you.

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That is not an important thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you call me what I'm up there reading like

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Paul's Letter to the Corinthians. Not just joking. That was really.

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This was at the reception. This was at the reception afterwards.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I felt terrible. But how how was the family?

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Everybody all right? Not all right, but I mean as

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best you can be.

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Speaker 4: I think death took it worse than anybody. And she

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only met my grandmother once, I think, because her father

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passed away. So now this is the first funeral that

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she's at since. So funny story. So we're at the

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funeral and my sister and I were asked to do reading.

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So she did a reading from the Book of Isaiah.

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I did a reading from First Corinthids. So my sister

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and I are sitting at the end, and there's my wife.

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Then there's my brother in law, my sister's husband, with

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the two kids, and one is I think seven or eight,

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and the other one is about to turn four. And

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the four year old is talking and acting up and

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being what a four year not bad? But so after

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we get done reading, I look at my sister, Hey

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says that you want you want to move down to

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your husband, he wants next to it. She looks down

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the aisle and sees my nephew with his feet up,

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laying on the pew with.

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Speaker 4: No, no, on my brother in law's shoulders. My niece

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Speaker 1: This point, and my sister leans Backay, no, I'm good.

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Speaker 1: You know he can handle it for now.

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Speaker 4: I have enough stress in my life.

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Speaker 1: I saw an article today called Mom's Libido. I guess

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this woman has gone viral on TikTok because she does

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a how'd she do it? Okay, so many husbands say

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their wife has a non existent libido. So take that

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story you just told, hold that in your head, and

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then this one goes hours of sleep plus number of

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real meals eaten while seated, multiply that by partner support,

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by the number one minus the number of times touched

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by children equals mom's libido. And I just think your

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sister feed up. The other one's picking her nose talking.

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It's already a stressed.

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Speaker 4: And the kid and her son goes, I'm gonna take

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a nap. That's the Catholic Church. You're in the right place.

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Speaker 1: That's very, very funny.

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Speaker 4: Like they pulled up the things the kneelon. I don't

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even know what those are called. I'm a Baptist. I

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don't know what those are. But those neil pew those

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things your kneel on. Ye bye bye. Nephew goes to

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stand on, like, no, check, you can't do that. You

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can't stand what it's a matter. He's like, I want

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Speaker 1: I think kids stand there somewhat. Yeah, that's uh, that's funny. Well,

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I I know you guys have had a lot, you

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and Beth recently, Yeah, she said a lot.

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Speaker 4: And then somebody at the funeral, like my father in

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law's funeral recently died his memorial services, like, well, you're

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gonna be hearing this on the Thursday is today. I mean,

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she's just like been just it's one after anoe. It

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works been stressful for both of us. I mean, it's

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it's been tough. It's been tough. I'm not gonna lie, man,

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it's it's been tough, and it takes a lot out

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of you and you try to stay exercising and you stay,

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you know, you know, spent a lot of time praying

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and everything, but it could be stressful.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: It takes and you won't admit it, but it takes

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its toll on you. It takes this toll. And I

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don't think I've even grieved yet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean she lived ninety eight years, but because

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of a certain fraction in the family that happened in

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the late or the early two thousands, like about a

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month before nine to eleven, you know, yeah, we had

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our own nine to eleven, she had like lost certain

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grandkids that she never saw again, you know. And it's like,

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holy cow, and we're coming up on like eighteen years

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since we lost my dad.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's been a lot, Yeah, it has, you know.

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Speaker 4: So, I mean it's just been I mean, I'm okay

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like my father, you know, I've gotten used to the

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fact that he's been gone, But it's just been a

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ton you know, Like the month of June, Like there's

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three months in the of the year. If we could

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avoid these three months, we're good. March, June, in October

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that's when everybody dies in our family.

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Speaker 1: It's one of those three months.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, so, but I mean, it's just you know,

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getting over the probably I spoke about my grandmother.

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Speaker 1: She didn't want a eulogy. She didn't want a eulogy

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at all. She didn't want she wanted she was ninety eight, right,

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that's true.

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Speaker 4: But she made her funeral plans when she was sixty.

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We have a picture of her standing next to her

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monument at the cemetery taking a picture, like smiling, like

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I got my funeral plot. I'm good.

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Speaker 1: She paid for everything ahead of time. But this was

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like twenty years ago. She was ready to go a

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long time ago. Well, if it was if she was sixty,

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it's almost forty years ago. Oh yeah, oh yeah, ninety eight.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I because well she didn't get the

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monument until about two thousand and two thousand and five,

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something like that.

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Speaker 1: Twenty years.

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Speaker 4: But she's like taking a picture next to her monument.

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She had a sense of human She was Irish, one

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hundred percent Irish.

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Speaker 1: So here's something. As you look at all this, right,

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you've been to two memorial services pretty much back to back. Yes, right.

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If you look at life and the average lifespan is

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seventy eight years, you ain't got They're not a lot

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of time, no left, I left.

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Speaker 4: My father would have been seventy eight this year, yeah,

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or seventy s it would have been seventy six. But

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the point is is that like he was gone eighteen

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years ago, and my grandfather lived to be seventy six.

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Speaker 1: Brian Wilson just died at eighty two. Eighty two. I mean,

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so you're in that range and that range. So yeah,

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and I'm thinking like if I had if I lived

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to seventy eight, that means I have twenty four more years, right. Well,

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I was thinking that too, and that's as old. That's

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how old my oldest son is.

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Speaker 4: I have like thirty something years left. Yeah, you know

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that's it right, right?

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Speaker 1: So what are you doing?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: What are you doing?

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Speaker 4: And I know that are you living your life in

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fear or are you doing what you said out to

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doing things?

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Speaker 1: It's like the only thing I am starting to believe

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is you got to put things on the calendar and

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make them happen. Yes, make them happen commitment. Then you're

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gonna do something and actually go and do it.

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Speaker 4: But Tony Robbins calls them outcomes, not goals, because this

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is not a to do list. Outcomes I am by

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this day going to do this. Yeah, that's how you

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live your life.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you man, it's it's uh when you

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think of it that way. And I just thought of

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it even with Brian Wilson, right some people, Kevin said,

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I only know that I thought.

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Speaker 4: I have always argued that's the best Beach Boy song.

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Speaker 1: No, that that may be one of the most the

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most beautiful song ever written.

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Speaker 4: Oh gosh, it's gorgeous.

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Speaker 1: And I say that because or maybe the best song

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ever written, because it was always imagined by John Lennon

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would get the thing, and I go, I'll argue it'll

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be this. I mean that was Brian Wilson.

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Speaker 4: That was that was pet Sounds. Pet Sounds influenced Sergeant Pepper. Yes,

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it's not the other way around. They started the Beach Boys.

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I don't want to get into like musical terms, but

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like the Beach Boys started experimenting with chords that the

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Beatles never touched, and then started doing like layering of

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tracks that the that the Beatles never did and alsodd well,

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maybe we should try that.

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Speaker 1: Did the Beach Boys play on Sargeant Pepper?

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Speaker 4: I don't know, that's a kno question. I don't know

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if they did or not.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, uh, yeah, Brian Wilson, I think Kevin sent

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me something, saying in two thousand and one, Tom Petty

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said an argument could be made that Brian Wilson is

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as talented or influential on music as Beethoven. Okay, I'm

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paraphrasing because that I did. I didn't see that. I

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don't know that, Tom Petty, I don't remember that, but

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it would make sense. Yeah, I mean he was nuts enough.

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, I mean yeah, Beethove was deaf when he

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was running symphonies. Yeah, I mean, you know he did

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hear me like the store. I've seen the movie where

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it was a fictional, fictionalized version of his life where

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he would walk around like forget what day of the

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week it was, he hear the music bump. People thought

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he was a madman the way, but he was hearing

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music in his head. And Brian Wilson, you know, I

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mean it drove him to like what was he in

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bed for years? Didn't you have what you know? I mean, like,

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didn't he like I deal with depression before they really

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knew what it was. It was. The Bernick Ladies wrote

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a song called line in bed like Brian Brian Wilson,

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but it talked about how he used to lie in bed, Yeah,

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because he.

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Speaker 1: Was just so you know, well, here here's the other

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part depressed. I don't know if yes, I always had

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read those things too, And then I read something today.

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I don't even know where I found the time to

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read these things. More skim these articles and this one

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was about you know, how we talk about human connection

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and that's what how people live so long usually is

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to you know, you can die of loneliness and stuff,

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but the need for stillness, the need to lie in

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bed like Brian Wilson, the need to do that. And

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I think the I don't know, but I think the

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more creative somebody is, the more withdrawn. At times they

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become not all the time, but they can become very withdrawn.

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And I think Brian Wilson was that way.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, a lot of artists, I'm sorry, musicians are.

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I don't like calling them artists, but like I mean,

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it's an art form. But I think when you give

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the artists type wow, would he take it a little

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too seriously?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? But there are someone I would argue are artists

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because they can play in any genre and have a hit.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, like McCartney could do that. A lot of

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the guys we just mentioned could do that. But yeah,

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I think that like Noel Gallagher from Oasis used to

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like go away to a castle and write. Yeah for Oasis,

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he had to. He was the sole songwriter, like the

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rest of the guys just wanted to party and do

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drugs and this was his you know. He joined the

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band under the caveat that he wrote all the songs

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and his brother Liam's like, yeah, I just want to

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make money.

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Speaker 1: Okay, great.

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Speaker 4: A lot of bands did that. Like anytime you have

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a band where like there's like one sole songwriter, usually

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that's how it works.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: They are very reclusive, like Chris Cornell. The reason Sougarden

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broke up in the nineties because he didn't talk to

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the guys in the band. He never talked. Yeah, he

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would just go off on his own right sing before

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and then he'd go back in his hole and he

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didn't talk to anybody.

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Speaker 1: But not even trying to be rude or anything. This

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just them and and it does make you win.

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Speaker 4: After a while. It wears on the other people around you.

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Speaker 1: Right, This is where it does make you argue, now

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where we have so much awareness of autism and spectrum

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disorder and trying to help and socialize people and do

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this sort of thing, if there wasn't all of this

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all the time, and maybe the evolution really is as

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my friend doctor Reich will say that you that the

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evolution autism is just evolution, just evolution in humanity. I

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don't know, meaning that they're they're higher level thinking, in

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higher level sometimes speaking, even the nonverbal. There's those that

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believe that nonverbal people communicate telepathically. It could be I

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don't know, I'm too dumb to figure that out, but

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but it's possible. But my point is that could Beethoven

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have been that way? Could Chris Cornell been a little

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bit that way? Brian Wilson a little bit that way?

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And we just call them weird and creative instead of autistic. Right.

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Speaker 4: So my uh, when I was I think was Bridge

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my band, our drummer ian who could play any Rush song.

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He's like a savant when it comes to music. He

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grew up in Hawaii. He moved to Sam Bernardino when

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he was like eighteen or something like that, and he

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played in cover bands in the LA area, like, the

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joke is that he missed to turn somewhere because he

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should probably be drumming for a band that we have

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a poster of in the nineties. He's that good. And

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his wife was a bartender and ran a bar in

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sam Bernardino and acts like Soundgarden and food Fighters and

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others would come and play there. So you got to

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get the Ryan already, right, So they said Dave Grohl

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was the type of guy who, after he's done playing,

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is out drinking with the fans, talk with the fans.

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He's on the bars. Yeah, oh yeah, he's good time.

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Charlie right, he's shot Cornell, Hey, right, my kind of guy.

472
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,400
Chris Cornell was the opposite. Chris Cornell is like, as

473
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,839
soon as he's done, okay, where's my where's my bodyguard?

474
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,759
He put his arms on the bodyguard's shoulders, put his

475
00:22:01,839 --> 00:22:03,599
head down, and then the bodyguard there'd be one in

476
00:22:03,599 --> 00:22:05,720
front of him, one behind him, to make sure nobody

477
00:22:05,759 --> 00:22:06,359
interfered with him.

478
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:06,599
Speaker 1: Nobody.

479
00:22:06,839 --> 00:22:08,799
Speaker 4: He didn't want to be bothered at all. And it

480
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,759
wasn't because he was a jerk. No, he have been shyness,

481
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,839
I don't know. He was just fair And it ended

482
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,799
up believing the sound gardens breakup in a lot of

483
00:22:16,839 --> 00:22:19,039
ways because they couldn't all communicate with him.

484
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,039
Speaker 1: No, I understand, and I'm not saying that the therapeutic

485
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:26,759
things we do are bad. I I'm at a point

486
00:22:26,839 --> 00:22:30,359
in my life and we'll take a moment here where

487
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:34,599
I'm starting to think that we all argue for our limitations,

488
00:22:34,759 --> 00:22:37,920
and that had those guys at some point been told, hey,

489
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,559
you're on the autism spectrum, would that have prevented them

490
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,319
from doing things? I don't know the answer to that.

491
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,559
We'll never know, but I do know that there's a

492
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,119
story out there, and I don't know where I read it.

493
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,400
I'm pretty sure I read it that a guy, uh,

494
00:22:53,759 --> 00:22:56,519
not a great student, didn't think he was going to

495
00:22:56,599 --> 00:23:01,480
go to college, did whatever took the SATs reluctantly. Sat

496
00:23:01,599 --> 00:23:05,640
scores come back and he got a thirteen ten, pretty

497
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:06,039
good score.

498
00:23:06,799 --> 00:23:08,599
Speaker 4: Is this in the air of sixteen.

499
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 1: Sixteen hundred there? And so he goes so once he

500
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,400
saw that, he's like, I gotta start applying myself. So

501
00:23:17,519 --> 00:23:19,920
he goes to college and college was a little rough

502
00:23:20,039 --> 00:23:22,599
and he gets but he, you know, he struggles through

503
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,559
and does it. It's college level work and he gets

504
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,559
he's getting grades that are in the like low a's

505
00:23:27,759 --> 00:23:34,440
and whatever, and gets through Suckerberg no, finishes everything. And

506
00:23:34,519 --> 00:23:36,759
then I don't know if he went to law school

507
00:23:36,839 --> 00:23:39,240
after that or and then one day it's revealed that

508
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,759
his SAT score was a nine ten. They got mixed

509
00:23:42,799 --> 00:23:45,079
up with somebody else. He did not score to thirteen ten.

510
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:49,559
He believed it. There it is, and that's where I went, Oh,

511
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,720
my gosh. We argue for our limitations when someone tells

512
00:23:52,799 --> 00:23:56,400
you and they don't mean it badly, but I think, like, yeah,

513
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,319
we see things with kids. Okay, let's get him you

514
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,359
can tell some he has his speech impediment. Let's get

515
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,920
him some speech therapy. Work through that, no problem. But

516
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,880
sometimes they start to think, like you do wonder like, oh,

517
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,359
come on, man, you're autistic and a little crazy. You gotta,

518
00:24:10,599 --> 00:24:13,119
you know, take a take a break, take a walk.

519
00:24:13,279 --> 00:24:15,039
Don't what don't mean you're gonna write a song. You're

520
00:24:15,079 --> 00:24:16,960
not gonna write you know what I'm saying. Right, I

521
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,680
don't know that that's really the message that's being said,

522
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,200
but sometimes it feels like it may be. And I

523
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,559
just wonder if if we go too far with things.

524
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's this famous episode of The Cosby Show. I

525
00:24:28,559 --> 00:24:31,279
think in the final season where now, if you know

526
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,039
Bill Cosby's son Ennis, who was killed, he was he

527
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:40,240
had dyslexia. So Theo's character, Theo Huxtable, his character was

528
00:24:40,279 --> 00:24:43,119
based on Enis and so for years they kept he

529
00:24:43,319 --> 00:24:47,000
kept telling Theo, Doctor Huckball kept telling his son that

530
00:24:47,079 --> 00:24:49,240
you don't apply yourself, you don't apply yourself. Then they

531
00:24:49,319 --> 00:24:51,160
find they get to the last season to find out

532
00:24:51,759 --> 00:24:55,000
they're celebrating the fact that he's dyslexic well being.

533
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 1: You know, he's not stupid. No, I I uh.

534
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 4: In the in the world the Daughters comes in, he goes,

535
00:25:01,319 --> 00:25:05,559
you're celebrating this. But the idea was that, like, okay,

536
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,960
there's a reason behind this. At the same time, it

537
00:25:09,039 --> 00:25:10,960
sounds like it's arguing for limitation, doesn't he No.

538
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 1: It does. But maybe that's an explanation as to what

539
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,200
we're seeing these behaviors where it seems like he's not

540
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,279
applying himself. It's funny. Get bring that up. People go

541
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,279
back and watch Sopranos over again.

542
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 4: Eighteen years ago today the show ended.

543
00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 1: Really yes, people, uh, look at you. People go back

544
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,200
and watch all kinds of different you know series, they'll

545
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,039
watch him again. I went back and I've been watching

546
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,720
Ballers again. Oh the Rock, Yeah, yeah, I love it.

547
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,920
Rob Codre yep, yeah, yep. And in it they have

548
00:25:43,039 --> 00:25:45,960
a player who's this cocky kid coming out of college,

549
00:25:46,079 --> 00:25:49,880
great linebacker, and they're trying to raise his strap, but

550
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,839
he won't go to the combine. He won't go here,

551
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,000
he won't go there. So then he winds up on

552
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,400
Jake Laser's show and Jay starts writing all this stuff

553
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:58,960
and the kid walks out on the board. He goes,

554
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,519
come up to the whiteboard, tell me what you do?

555
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,920
Bill Belichick? Your up against him. He's trying to disguise things.

556
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,599
What do you do? And the kid walks out and

557
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:11,680
he turns around and in the parking lot, the rock goes, what,

558
00:26:12,079 --> 00:26:15,160
what's what's going on? The guy goes dyslexic. He goes,

559
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,279
why did you tell me this? Sooner? He goes, I

560
00:26:17,319 --> 00:26:19,640
don't want anybody to know him dyslexic. I got And

561
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,720
then he's like, all right, well listen, I'll get you

562
00:26:21,839 --> 00:26:23,880
all tuned up. We'll do we'll figure this out. And

563
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,680
then you go in and you'll you'll blow the doors

564
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,599
off it. And the kid goes no, and he goes

565
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,039
back into Jay Glazer and he tells him exactly. He goes,

566
00:26:30,079 --> 00:26:32,839
it just takes me a little bit longer to process.

567
00:26:33,319 --> 00:26:36,200
But when you're not getting it and everybody else around

568
00:26:36,279 --> 00:26:38,960
you is getting it, well, you just feel like, what's

569
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:39,640
the Fuck's the point?

570
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:40,039
Speaker 6: Right?

571
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,519
Speaker 4: And it's it's it's it's an endless psycho.

572
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. And so I'm not saying again when I say

573
00:26:45,799 --> 00:26:48,920
argue for limitations, I don't mean that there aren't things

574
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,039
that we can do to help someone be better. I

575
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,200
know what you mean, but I think sometimes when you

576
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:59,519
know too much, like I have depression, Well, everybody goes

577
00:26:59,559 --> 00:27:02,880
through things. It's part of the human condition. Take a walk,

578
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,039
point out I'm not And again, if you think you

579
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,680
need I don't even call a medicine. I called a

580
00:27:07,799 --> 00:27:11,160
tool to feel better. Fine, that's great, but then feel

581
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,880
better and stop focusing on the fact that you have depression.

582
00:27:14,039 --> 00:27:17,920
Stop focusing on that and move forward. I think, all right, Uh,

583
00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:21,279
we're living in a great time, Dan. We will get

584
00:27:21,279 --> 00:27:23,079
to why we were living in such a great time.

585
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,519
Speaker 4: Not in Southern California necessarily, no no.

586
00:27:25,599 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, not necessarily, but we will get

587
00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:33,039
to Uh, we will get to why. I think we're

588
00:27:33,079 --> 00:27:37,319
living in an interesting possibly a great time, possibly if

589
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,359
I only have twenty four more years, possibly the greatest

590
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,440
quarter century of my life. All right, great, I don't know,

591
00:27:42,519 --> 00:27:46,240
we'll get to that. Break good to come out. I

592
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:46,759
like to do that.

593
00:27:46,839 --> 00:27:49,559
Speaker 7: At bTB would fire pizza and grill and all the grease.

594
00:27:49,799 --> 00:27:51,279
It was just their Sunday for brunch.

595
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,279
Speaker 1: You went for brunch, yes, son of a good.

596
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:54,519
Speaker 4: I ate the whole thing.

597
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 1: What did you what?

598
00:27:55,599 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 4: The whole burrito? I had a deep you got them

599
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,200
deep fro the bre Yeah right, that has cinnamon, so

600
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,759
it gave me a migraine. But other than that, it

601
00:28:02,839 --> 00:28:06,920
was fantastic. Does yeah occasionally, so that's not anybody's fault.

602
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,240
But the point is it was excellent.

603
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,839
Speaker 1: Yeah. The food is is unbelievable. My wife had the.

604
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,599
Speaker 4: Bowl with the with the the big bowl with the

605
00:28:14,839 --> 00:28:17,559
barbecue sauce. Yeah yeah, my mother in law had something.

606
00:28:17,599 --> 00:28:18,039
Speaker 1: It was great.

607
00:28:18,039 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 4: We loved it.

608
00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:22,319
Speaker 1: Okay, go back the how is it? How was the

609
00:28:22,519 --> 00:28:24,880
uh able to get in? Oh? Yeah, they have like

610
00:28:25,079 --> 00:28:25,799
sometimes a line.

611
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well they're doing trivia. I should have played

612
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,920
it because knew every song that they played and the

613
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,920
artist and everything. Oh so you were there for the

614
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:36,279
music trip was not therefore were there during Yeah yeah yeah,

615
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,440
so what a good time. But they like people get

616
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,920
really like competitive doing that. Yeah, but it was a

617
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,839
great brunch weight after church. Yeah, it's fantastic. They treated

618
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:46,559
us really well.

619
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: Well. I think we are going to do the brunch

620
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,039
cast over the summer. Oh wow, okay, cool, that was

621
00:28:51,079 --> 00:28:55,680
your idea. Yeah, that was my idea. Your idea, thanks, No, seriously, thanks,

622
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:56,880
it is a great idea.

623
00:28:57,359 --> 00:28:58,319
Speaker 4: I'm good for one everyone.

624
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,559
Speaker 1: So the food is great, you know my limitations of

625
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,200
the atmosphere is like just perfect, right, Yeah, the one

626
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,720
there is just perfect. And be sure to check out

627
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,599
their summer menu. You can find it on their Facebook

628
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,400
page or bTB roc dot com. They've got great cocktails,

629
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:19,279
summer cocktails for you, great spear specials, and the food

630
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,160
no matter what you get, I am telling you, it's delicious.

631
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,839
And a lot of people unlike me, maybe I'm like

632
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,680
Dan could bring it home. In other words, eat half

633
00:29:29,759 --> 00:29:32,119
the breeder they're bringing home, then throw it in your

634
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:32,799
air fryer.

635
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,039
Speaker 4: That yeah, yeah, yeah, you have to eat it all

636
00:29:35,119 --> 00:29:38,519
once taking it home. This isn't like one of those

637
00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:39,279
restaurants where.

638
00:29:39,119 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: You got to eat it all here, No, so you

639
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,559
can take it home and uh and there you go. Yeah,

640
00:29:45,039 --> 00:29:48,359
very nice. bTB would fire Pizza and grill. Uh yeah,

641
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,400
because what was the one I had? It was so

642
00:29:50,599 --> 00:29:52,839
good and I put it in the air fryer the

643
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,240
next day and then I h was it the Paisano?

644
00:29:56,279 --> 00:29:58,799
I think yeah, I think it was the pisono.

645
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 4: So I it literally took me twenty minutes to read

646
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,319
the menu because I wasn't sure what I wanted.

647
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: Good. Yeah, isn't that all?

648
00:30:05,279 --> 00:30:08,279
Speaker 4: It just comes back three? All right times up? Bro,

649
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,599
you gotta or so I told my wife and my mother,

650
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,759
like you order this, you order this, I'll order this.

651
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,519
Will nibble off each others.

652
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:15,839
Speaker 1: Yeah.

653
00:30:16,119 --> 00:30:17,599
Speaker 4: By the time that they got to me, like you

654
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,480
just inhale that I'm.

655
00:30:19,279 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: Starver and so good. BTV would fire piece and Grill

656
00:30:22,759 --> 00:30:25,279
and the mall in grease. Rich Connors and Ferris handles

657
00:30:25,319 --> 00:30:29,720
workers' comp social security, disability and personal injury cases. Listen,

658
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,000
I get it. Workers comp claims can be a real pain,

659
00:30:33,559 --> 00:30:36,559
but Connors and Ferris are here to fight for you

660
00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:41,079
and get you the compensation you deserve. Whether you threw

661
00:30:41,119 --> 00:30:43,079
out your back on the job, slipped when you should

662
00:30:43,119 --> 00:30:46,759
a grip, or your boss thinks overtime means free labor. Spoiler,

663
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,039
it doesn't. They've got your back At Connors and Ferris,

664
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,759
with offices in New York City, Syracuse, Rochester, and Buffalo.

665
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:58,680
They're the go to team for getting the compensation you deserve.

666
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:03,160
No gimmicks, no nonsense, just real results. Call Connors and

667
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,200
Ferris two six two comp. That's two six two comp

668
00:31:07,519 --> 00:31:09,000
for Connors and Ferris.

669
00:31:26,079 --> 00:31:30,799
Speaker 8: I may not always love you, but long is there

670
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:38,279
are stars love you. You never need you, daddy, Oh,

671
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,640
thank you, said Shid.

672
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: I always thought this is one of the prettiest songs.

673
00:31:44,519 --> 00:31:46,599
I shouldn't have paused there. I should just talk over it.

674
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,079
I alway thought it was some of the pretty songs.

675
00:31:48,119 --> 00:31:51,000
But the lyrics in the beginning is like, I don't

676
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,000
know that I'll always love you, but as long as

677
00:31:53,039 --> 00:31:57,200
there are stars above you. So it's like a contradictory

678
00:31:57,279 --> 00:32:00,799
of I will always love right, he's just being I

679
00:32:00,839 --> 00:32:02,559
don't know how long it would be funny. Yeah, I

680
00:32:02,599 --> 00:32:04,359
don't know how long it'll be, but as long as there's.

681
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 4: Charge of bumps, it's I wonder the Beach Boys if

682
00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:12,519
they had broken up like the Beatles broke up, if

683
00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:14,920
we would hold them in a higher ESTEEME or higher

684
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,559
with card or if Brian or Mike Love or Al

685
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:23,039
Jardine had passed away, because Carl and Dennis did die,

686
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,680
but they weren't really the Yeah, they were, but they

687
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,359
weren't like it was Brian Wilson's group. And so I

688
00:32:30,519 --> 00:32:33,319
wonder if we would because there's still touring the Beach Boys,

689
00:32:33,359 --> 00:32:35,640
but it's not the Beach Boys. It's a bunch of

690
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,519
guys really pretending to be the Beach Boys. You know,

691
00:32:39,079 --> 00:32:41,039
a lot of old bands to do that be Like

692
00:32:41,119 --> 00:32:44,119
look at Skinnered. There's no original members in Skinnered. Foreigner,

693
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,279
there's no original members in Foreigner anymore. Like I don't

694
00:32:47,319 --> 00:32:49,759
think that Jones can't play anymore at.

695
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: I think Lou is going out with Yeah for a

696
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:55,119
couple of dates.

697
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, yeah, But Kelly Hanson like acts like he's

698
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,000
been in the band since day one, you know, I

699
00:33:02,039 --> 00:33:04,359
mean he sounds like Lou used to. That's not a

700
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,880
shot at Lou, it's just it's hard, like Freddie Mercury,

701
00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:08,960
Like that's why Robert Plant and Led Zeppel won't go

702
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,720
on tour. Robert can't hit those notes anymore. If Freddy

703
00:33:11,799 --> 00:33:13,519
Murcury was still alive, he wouldn't be able to hit

704
00:33:13,559 --> 00:33:14,440
those notes anymore.

705
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,839
Speaker 9: No, Steve Perry, Steve Perry, Yeah, he had leave journey

706
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,000
because of the song I just heard was Steve Perry

707
00:33:22,039 --> 00:33:24,519
Willie Nelson. We played it on this show and it

708
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:25,440
was it was awful.

709
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 4: But I think, I think that we don't hold the

710
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,039
Beach Boys in the same esteem as the Beatles, and

711
00:33:30,119 --> 00:33:34,039
we should, but we don't because one Brian Wilson was

712
00:33:34,119 --> 00:33:36,680
still alive until today, and too, they didn't break up.

713
00:33:37,039 --> 00:33:39,240
The Beatles broke up, and then they all went their

714
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:41,119
separate ways, and we all wonder what would.

715
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: Have happened out of the band.

716
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,519
Speaker 4: For a while, he was but they still continued on

717
00:33:45,799 --> 00:33:47,400
as the Beach Boys. So it was like it's like

718
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,240
Neil Young said, it's better to burn out and fade away.

719
00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:50,440
I wonder if that's part of it.

720
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,519
Speaker 1: Was it the Beach Boys that did a couple of

721
00:33:53,680 --> 00:34:01,759
songs with Charles Manson, Yes, like he became friends with Brian.

722
00:34:01,839 --> 00:34:04,000
Didn't he let me see.

723
00:34:03,839 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 4: Either Brian or Dennis. Uh, maybe he was Brian. Yeah,

724
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,400
he was he was pals with those, Okay.

725
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,599
Speaker 1: Charles Manson and I Charles Manson and the and it

726
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:19,000
pops up being Beach Boys. Charles Manson.

727
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

728
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: He collaborated with the Beach Boys in nineteen sixty eight

729
00:34:22,519 --> 00:34:28,360
briefly Uh. The band recorded Manson's song Ceased to Exist,

730
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,800
which they remain renamed Never Learned Not To Love, and

731
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,639
released it as a B side. Manson was uncredited on

732
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:43,440
the release Okay You're Right. Reign particularly Dennis Wilson took

733
00:34:43,519 --> 00:34:48,519
the song and reworked it significantly, adding instruments and changing leers. Mason.

734
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,519
Manson was reportedly paid cash and a motorcycle in exchange

735
00:34:52,559 --> 00:34:57,159
for dropping his writing credit. According to Dennis Okay, Manson

736
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,400
was admitted from the credit so omitted. Yeah yeah, yeah,

737
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:01,920
what did I say?

738
00:35:02,119 --> 00:35:02,559
Speaker 4: Admitted?

739
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: Oh? I did?

740
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 4: He probably admitted afterwards.

741
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: And omitted it right from the credits. But had he

742
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,960
committed the crimes, I don't know when that happened.

743
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,199
Speaker 4: That six before the crimes. This is before the crimes.

744
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,320
He committed the crimes after the Beach when the Beach

745
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,679
Boys things went sideways. That's when he started to really

746
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,079
become the guy that we now know historically as Charles Manson.

747
00:35:28,159 --> 00:35:30,280
Let's see, like the whole Healter.

748
00:35:30,199 --> 00:35:33,519
Speaker 1: Stock, so the summer of nineteen sixty nine, August ninth,

749
00:35:33,639 --> 00:35:38,360
nineteen sixty nine, and okay, the Beach Boys collaborated with

750
00:35:38,559 --> 00:35:41,960
him in nineteen sixty eight. Okay, so they must have

751
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:48,719
known he was fucking nuts. Yeah, motorcycle a fucking insane Yeah.

752
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,599
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, well we all know why. It's funny. You know,

753
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,599
Fidel Castro was a Washington Senator and a New York Yankee,

754
00:35:57,079 --> 00:35:59,239
but he couldn't throw a curveball, so ends up going

755
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:00,519
back to cube becoming dictator.

756
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny like.

757
00:36:01,519 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 4: If we if we just let the guy in our band,

758
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,159
maybe he won't become a killer, he won't become a nut,

759
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:07,840
maybe he won't become a dictator.

760
00:36:08,159 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: Wow, that's so I'd love now, I'd love to hear

761
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,199
like Mike Love, who I always get mad at because

762
00:36:17,199 --> 00:36:19,159
he still wears a hat that says beats boys on it.

763
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:20,119
You're in the fucking band.

764
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, because he doesn't have any hair, like Edie.

765
00:36:23,199 --> 00:36:24,480
Eddie Veder's been doing the same thing, Like.

766
00:36:24,639 --> 00:36:26,679
Speaker 1: Wear a hat, you don't have to wear one that

767
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:27,920
says beats boys.

768
00:36:28,039 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, or his US Navy.

769
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:35,199
Speaker 1: So but I'd love to talk to him about the

770
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,039
manson time.

771
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that'll be.

772
00:36:37,039 --> 00:36:40,039
Speaker 1: There had to be some creepy shit that went on, so, you.

773
00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 4: Know, like Rochester loved like Klaman to anybody who spent

774
00:36:42,519 --> 00:36:46,480
ten minutes here. Al Jardine is in the Rochester Music

775
00:36:46,559 --> 00:36:48,920
Hall of Fame. I don't think he was here that

776
00:36:49,039 --> 00:36:54,519
love what what when you speak facts, you.

777
00:36:54,519 --> 00:36:58,599
Speaker 1: Could say, what about hey man? Well, it's it's like the.

778
00:36:58,599 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 4: Other night there was an episode of Family Guy with

779
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,719
Ryan Lockey at it. Ryan Lockedy was born in Canadiguall.

780
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,239
He has no other ties to Canadaigua or local area,

781
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,119
but Man. When he was in the Olympics, Channel thirteen

782
00:37:08,159 --> 00:37:11,760
would lead off with Ryan Lockney highlights. What are we saying?

783
00:37:12,199 --> 00:37:15,920
We're reaching? We're reaching right now. Have you ever seen

784
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,920
Love and Mercy, the movie it's supposed to be about

785
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,599
Brian Wilson. No, I'd love to see that. No, I

786
00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:21,960
have not seen I don't know if you'd seen that.

787
00:37:22,519 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 1: I have not seen that. But God only knows. What

788
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,719
I always thought, I always argued was one of the

789
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,480
best songs ever written. Oh gosh, it's really beautiful.

790
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 4: And it was the theme song to the show Big

791
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:33,199
Love on HBO.

792
00:37:33,679 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: Oh it was. Yeah, I didn't watch Big Love.

793
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:36,079
Speaker 5: It was.

794
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 4: It was a show about this Mormon family who had

795
00:37:39,639 --> 00:37:42,760
this dude had three wives, the guy from Twister, I

796
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,639
forgot his name, the actor. He ended up dying like

797
00:37:44,679 --> 00:37:48,519
about ten years ago. He had three wives and they

798
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,239
all lived in three houses that he owned.

799
00:37:51,519 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: Oh, I did see a little bit of that. Yes,

800
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,159
I did see a little bit of that show. I

801
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,239
remember that a little bit. We are living in a time, Dan,

802
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:05,239
where the age sixty is not what it was when

803
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,360
your grandmother, who passed in ninety eight turned sixty.

804
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, like Tom Cruise at sixty.

805
00:38:11,039 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 1: Now Tom Cruise at sixty.

806
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 4: Now, imagine Archie Bunker at sixty. That's the difference.

807
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so funny that you bring that, because I'm

808
00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:23,039
really excited to see the f one movie with Brad Pitt.

809
00:38:23,639 --> 00:38:24,639
Have you seen this? Yeah?

810
00:38:24,639 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 4: I see the commercials for it. I thought of you immediately.

811
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: Oh God, I want to see that so badly because

812
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,320
it looks insane to me.

813
00:38:30,599 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 4: Is he eating through the whole movie? I wonder what

814
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,079
do you mean? Because Brad Pitt like eats through every movie.

815
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,880
You ever noticed that. No, he like eats at every scene.

816
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,440
He's always eating something, or at least in every movie

817
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:42,480
he makes a point to eat.

818
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: So it was done by the same people who did

819
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,920
Top Gun Maverick Maverick. Yeah, and they didn't want Tom

820
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,159
oh really, because he's too intense. Oh yes, they think

821
00:38:57,199 --> 00:38:59,760
he would have gone Like I think Brad did a

822
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,599
lot of the driving and stuff in there. I think

823
00:39:01,679 --> 00:39:06,320
that probably also, But I mean this, I am hearing

824
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,320
that the Mission Impossible movie is his opus.

825
00:39:11,119 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, his gooddy.

826
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: Well, the greatest thing that. I don't think Tom Cruise

827
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,360
is going anywhere. I think he's going to continue to act,

828
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,320
but it is like the greatest thing he's ever done.

829
00:39:20,599 --> 00:39:23,599
With the stunts, where they went where they went, and

830
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,719
they refilmed different things, like they would shut down production

831
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,199
for two or three days. Everybody begann that everybody come

832
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,079
back to the set and they had reshot stuff with

833
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,119
Tom hanging off the side of the like he.

834
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,559
Speaker 4: Did all the stuts like like here's a story about

835
00:39:36,639 --> 00:39:39,039
like like nobody want to do the helicopter stunt right

836
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,920
in the previous Mission Impossible, So he just learned how

837
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:42,800
to fly a helicopter.

838
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:47,159
Speaker 1: In him himself. Yeah, and and like he's I mean,

839
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,199
he's slightly goofy himself, I guess to a certain degree.

840
00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:56,079
But he kept the movie industry going during COVID because

841
00:39:56,079 --> 00:39:57,760
I don't know who he works for. He would call

842
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,719
two different he said, hey, you guys, you guys doing movies.

843
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,280
You're over there because we're doing movies.

844
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,159
Speaker 4: And then so they start doing Then he calls his

845
00:40:05,199 --> 00:40:07,719
own coupan because hey, they're doing movies. And it got

846
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,320
it both like in a race, though, we got to

847
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,039
figure out way to do this. We're Hollywood, damn it.

848
00:40:12,159 --> 00:40:13,239
We could do whatever we want.

849
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: But is it funny? But he did that, that shit

850
00:40:15,559 --> 00:40:16,079
still goes on.

851
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,079
Speaker 4: And then Steven Spielberg's like, congratually, you saved Hollywood, man,

852
00:40:19,159 --> 00:40:20,119
you saved Hollywood.

853
00:40:21,079 --> 00:40:24,079
Speaker 1: But the F One movie, I really want to see this,

854
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,800
but it was Uh. They said that Tom Cruise would

855
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,239
have pushed it too hard. I believe though, and and

856
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,039
maybe possibly died. I don't know. I don't know, because

857
00:40:34,199 --> 00:40:37,239
you're if I mean F one, we know that there

858
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,199
you're traveling around two hundred miles an hour.

859
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,079
Speaker 4: But maybe he would have tried to do it all.

860
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 1: Yes, I think so, But going back to sixty. Elizabeth Hurley, Oh, yeah,

861
00:40:49,079 --> 00:40:52,840
turned sixty. She looks fantastic, and she did a nude

862
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,639
photo shoot and she did yes, and she's like, uh, well,

863
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,639
you know, very tastefully done, but naked. But that woman

864
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,840
does not. I mean, sixty isn't sixty. And I guess

865
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,199
on some people it is still sixty. I mean, look around,

866
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,320
let's be honest. But there's more of that than there is.

867
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,079
I don't know what that is. And I'm finding more

868
00:41:16,079 --> 00:41:20,519
and more people are are going like twenty twenty five

869
00:41:20,599 --> 00:41:23,599
years in a marriage and then out, and it's almost

870
00:41:23,639 --> 00:41:26,480
like they reinvent themselves and now they hear they come, yeah,

871
00:41:26,679 --> 00:41:29,480
you know what I mean, And sixty is not. It's

872
00:41:29,519 --> 00:41:32,559
not the same mentality. Maybe no, maybe that's it. They

873
00:41:32,599 --> 00:41:35,320
don't feel old. I don't think they. I can't imagine

874
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,559
you ever felt old. Like everybody always locks in at

875
00:41:38,559 --> 00:41:40,760
a certain age, so that had to be for past

876
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:41,679
generations as well.

877
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 4: I don't think you and I look at ourselves as

878
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,239
old in the mirror. I still think like there's a

879
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,159
certain age in your mind that you settle line. For me,

880
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,599
I think it's like twenty two. I still think I'm

881
00:41:50,679 --> 00:41:51,719
like twenty two years old.

882
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I always think I'm not.

883
00:41:54,639 --> 00:41:57,599
Speaker 4: I'm double that. Somebody posted a picture because AI now

884
00:41:57,639 --> 00:41:59,639
you can do this. Somebody posted a picture. It's a

885
00:41:59,679 --> 00:42:01,920
viral picture and some of you listening to this podcast

886
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,800
have probably seen it. It's a picture of what Jennifer

887
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,199
Aniston and Brad Pitt would have looked like if they

888
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,280
weren't in Hollywood by now, at their current ages, and

889
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,119
they would look like you know, any other couple that

890
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:19,000
from Mondoid, right or Wayne County. That's what they look

891
00:42:19,079 --> 00:42:19,840
I gotta pull it up.

892
00:42:20,039 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 1: You gotta pull it up.

893
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:21,519
Speaker 4: I gotta pull it up.

894
00:42:21,559 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 7: But here's it without all the advancements. But I know

895
00:42:25,039 --> 00:42:28,320
people and so do you, Yes, that are of this age, and.

896
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 4: They know they look Molly Flaherty yes, perfect, Yes, looks

897
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,679
like she's twenty yeah yeah.

898
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: Clothes yeah, yeah, No, that's true. I don't know. I

899
00:42:41,679 --> 00:42:46,159
in the move I found my sister or somebody had

900
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,559
made something for my twenty first birthday with a bunch

901
00:42:48,599 --> 00:42:50,679
of pictures on it. They must have mailed it to me.

902
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,400
I wasn't living at home, and so it's one of

903
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:57,000
the few pictures or one of the few things that

904
00:42:57,079 --> 00:43:01,639
has pictures of me growing up, like there are baby

905
00:43:01,679 --> 00:43:05,039
pictures on there and toddler and elementary school and all

906
00:43:05,079 --> 00:43:09,280
this stuff. And because my parents' house burned down years later,

907
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,519
but my sister has sent that to me for my

908
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,800
twenty first birthday. I'm pretty sure, and I'm showing it

909
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,039
to Jamison, and Jameson's like, dude, you always look like

910
00:43:18,119 --> 00:43:24,079
you were about forty. I go, I'm your age in

911
00:43:24,119 --> 00:43:25,960
this picture. He goes, I know, but your face hasn't

912
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,920
really changed. So I'm like, oh, I don't know if

913
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:33,599
that's good or bad. But sticking with that sixty isn't

914
00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:39,159
the same thing. Teachers are. I think. I gotta think

915
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,639
teachers and student relationships that are inappropriate of an inappropriate nature.

916
00:43:44,039 --> 00:43:46,719
I have probably been around for many, many, many years,

917
00:43:47,639 --> 00:43:51,159
but I haven't heard of one where the teacher, the

918
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:55,360
person in authority, says, you know what, I fucked up?

919
00:43:57,119 --> 00:43:58,519
I did this, I did do it?

920
00:43:59,039 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 4: Did Mary kill eturnal admit it?

921
00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: I think she had to because she was pregnant.

922
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's I forget.

923
00:44:09,519 --> 00:44:11,039
Speaker 1: But a lot of times it's like, what are you

924
00:44:11,119 --> 00:44:15,039
talking about? What are you talking about? And but listen

925
00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:22,079
to this story out of Xavier Jesuit school in Cincinnati, Ohio.

926
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:28,639
Not the college, but a prestigious boys school. This will start.

927
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,840
I picked up the news at this. Let me give

928
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,960
you a little background. The woman's name is Emily Nutley. Okay,

929
00:44:36,039 --> 00:44:39,960
great last name, forty two years old. She was hired

930
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,840
as a supervisor for struggling students. And this is academically

931
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,559
struggling sites. Not kids that are struggling, but hards. So

932
00:44:48,679 --> 00:44:50,800
this should be like a McQuaid.

933
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 4: Are like a little help.

934
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,199
Speaker 1: They probably get you in there and go, hey, listen,

935
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,039
your grades are slipping a little bit. Go see missus

936
00:44:57,119 --> 00:44:58,119
mcnutley or Nutley.

937
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Speaker 4: And she used motivational tactics again. Oh you get an

938
00:45:04,639 --> 00:45:06,000
a you see a T.

939
00:45:07,639 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: This extra credit. This extra credit comes with the court date.

940
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:16,880
She uh yeah, So this woman is forty two, Emily Nutley.

941
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,960
If you told me Emily Nutley was fifty two, I

942
00:45:20,039 --> 00:45:21,960
could believe that. Hard to pin an age on her.

943
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,039
Not an unattractive woman, not an unattractive one. But I

944
00:45:26,119 --> 00:45:30,320
am speaking as a fifty something year old man. Uh,

945
00:45:31,519 --> 00:45:34,599
she's fake. She Now what we're going to hear is

946
00:45:34,679 --> 00:45:37,199
her sentence because this has been going on for over

947
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:41,599
a year. But she had an alleged sexual relationship with

948
00:45:41,639 --> 00:45:44,360
a seventeen year old. They call him an at risk student.

949
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,800
I don't know that he was at risk other than academically.

950
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,920
A lot of times, if you're going If Xavier or

951
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,880
Saint Xavier High School or Saint Xavier High School is

952
00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:00,280
like a McQuaid, it's you're paying money. So yeah, you know,

953
00:46:00,679 --> 00:46:04,400
I remember expect results. Well, I remember when my son

954
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,679
went there. They would always be reminded, how just know

955
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,840
how much your parents love you that they want to

956
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,639
invest this in you. Oh yeah, which was an interesting

957
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:13,239
thing to hear.

958
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 4: Well, did you ever hear the story about the Emmanuel brothers,

959
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,519
Ari and Ron Emmanuel. Their parents used to send them

960
00:46:19,519 --> 00:46:21,679
to private school and then when they got their report cards,

961
00:46:22,039 --> 00:46:24,280
they would post them on the refrigerator, no matter what

962
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,280
grades they got, so anybody who came in the house

963
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,320
and see how they did as a motivational tactic.

964
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: Okay, Authordy saying the inappropriate relationship relationship began in the

965
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:41,119
fall of twenty twenty three and included multiple sexual encounters

966
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,280
on and off campus, even after the student tried to

967
00:46:44,599 --> 00:46:44,840
end it.

968
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 4: Not Lee, he tried to missus Nutlee. I don't think

969
00:46:49,039 --> 00:46:49,719
this is working.

970
00:46:49,559 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 1: Out well, wait to hear I spread my wings not

971
00:46:54,599 --> 00:46:57,679
allegedly continued contacting him via text. The school discovered the

972
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:01,880
situation during an internal investigation, learned police she was fired

973
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:02,679
in October.

974
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:03,519
Speaker 4: Hey, you up.

975
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 1: Prosecutors are calling her actions reprehensible and if convicted, Nutley

976
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,840
could serve up to fifteen years and must register as

977
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:16,119
a sex offender. Okay, here is the Nutley story. This

978
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,280
is her getting sentenced by the judge. You will hear

979
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:19,159
the judge sla.

980
00:47:19,559 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 6: I believe the proper sense is three years in prison

981
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,880
on how one? Three years on how five to be

982
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,440
served at the same time for an aggregated sentence of

983
00:47:32,599 --> 00:47:33,920
three years in prison.

984
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,679
Speaker 1: So she gets three years in prison for this. Here's

985
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,920
the rest of the story, just to give you a

986
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:40,559
little background.

987
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 6: And Emily Nutley seemed a bit surprised by that sentenced.

988
00:47:44,639 --> 00:47:48,599
She was immediately placing handcuffs and escorted out of the courtroom.

989
00:47:49,039 --> 00:47:52,360
In April, she pleaded guilty to two counts of sexual battery.

990
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,800
She admitted while she was the director of academic services

991
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,039
at Sinex High School, she had a sexual relationship with

992
00:47:59,119 --> 00:48:02,199
a seventeen year old student. Prosecutors say she was the

993
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,360
aggressor all along, sent him nude photos, paid for his

994
00:48:05,559 --> 00:48:06,639
Pick a Ball membership.

995
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:12,599
Speaker 4: Geek, you want to play pick a Ball sometimes? That's

996
00:48:12,679 --> 00:48:13,639
her way of confession.

997
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 6: Gave him her Netflix passport and one hundred dollars a

998
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:17,599
month allowance.

999
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,679
Speaker 1: He was a pill. I was just gonna say, I

1000
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,599
know he was a kep. He was a kept boy. Right,

1001
00:48:27,519 --> 00:48:32,280
you're seventeen, get one hundred dollars allowance, pick a ball? Netflix,

1002
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,639
the fucking seventeen year olds to sign up for that,

1003
00:48:35,199 --> 00:48:38,800
and he gets your dick sucked. Hey, hey, this is amazing.

1004
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 6: Before learning her sentence, Nutley spoke in court. Assistant prosecutor

1005
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,360
Elised Eaters also read a letter from the victim who

1006
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,920
was sitting in the courtroom gallery today with his parents.

1007
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: Okay, now that is right where I went the most

1008
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,840
uncomfortable moment, And I don't know. I would love to

1009
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,159
check in with this kid in twenty years, if I'm

1010
00:48:59,159 --> 00:49:03,559
still here, I'd love to do meaning alive. I'd like

1011
00:49:03,639 --> 00:49:07,280
to check in because I want to go. Do you

1012
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,360
relive that much? You're sitting with your mom and your dad,

1013
00:49:11,519 --> 00:49:17,280
who are furious and mad at you and probably had

1014
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:21,840
sex themselves with people who were their peers at about

1015
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,159
the same age, maybe a little bit older, maybe a

1016
00:49:24,199 --> 00:49:27,639
little bit younger as possible, but probably did. You're of

1017
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,280
the age where these things can happen. I get it,

1018
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,719
but not with a forty two year old woman, unless

1019
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,599
although I told you my buddy did it fell in

1020
00:49:37,639 --> 00:49:39,519
love with that chick. Forty two year old woman from

1021
00:49:39,519 --> 00:49:42,519
New York City hooked up with her at a graduation party.

1022
00:49:44,039 --> 00:49:47,039
We're at a graduation party for kids. We were juniors.

1023
00:49:47,079 --> 00:49:49,639
We went to this graduation party. We all got high,

1024
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:54,079
and then she yeah, she took advantage of them. Yeah wow, Yeah, how.

1025
00:49:54,039 --> 00:49:55,039
Speaker 4: Much money she put in the card?

1026
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,559
Speaker 1: One hundred dollars a month for what I did, and

1027
00:49:59,639 --> 00:50:00,880
I won just the one.

1028
00:50:02,119 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 6: I crossed a boundary that never should have been crossed,

1029
00:50:04,519 --> 00:50:06,519
and I violated the trust of someone who needed to

1030
00:50:06,599 --> 00:50:08,280
be protected and respected.

1031
00:50:08,519 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 4: She sounds fifty.

1032
00:50:09,519 --> 00:50:11,159
Speaker 6: I live her every day with the heavy burden of

1033
00:50:11,199 --> 00:50:11,559
knowing them.

1034
00:50:11,679 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, the stress of this shit

1035
00:50:15,039 --> 00:50:18,639
has rumed. Because she says in another article, and I

1036
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:24,199
was thinking about this today, this woman must almost feel

1037
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,039
relieved that she's going to prison. And I know that

1038
00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:29,880
that sounds bad. But she lost her husband, she lost

1039
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,320
her house, she lost many of her friends. I can't

1040
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,960
tell you the number of people. Like when you talk

1041
00:50:37,079 --> 00:50:39,519
to people and somebody finds out someone's having an affair,

1042
00:50:40,199 --> 00:50:43,119
especially if it's the woman that's having the affair in

1043
00:50:43,199 --> 00:50:47,400
a Mayerica, the comments that people say and other women.

1044
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:52,519
So I am sure she lost everything. That almost going

1045
00:50:52,599 --> 00:50:56,760
to prison gives you a chance to just you're not

1046
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,840
gonna think about surviving. I'm sure that's a scary experience.

1047
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,920
I'm going to deny that. But out here, what do

1048
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,679
you have? You lost your job, you lost your friends,

1049
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,119
you lost your house, you lost your husband, you lost

1050
00:51:09,199 --> 00:51:12,519
family members, his family, who knows you could have been

1051
00:51:12,559 --> 00:51:14,679
close with his sister in law who I have no idea.

1052
00:51:15,079 --> 00:51:19,159
The dog gone all gone because you had to be

1053
00:51:19,559 --> 00:51:21,719
a duty hot teacher.

1054
00:51:22,039 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 4: Wow, yeah, that's amazing.

1055
00:51:23,559 --> 00:51:29,039
Speaker 1: Like what power that you're penis has? Yeah? Well sex,

1056
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,320
sex has, yes? And I also don't you want to

1057
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,119
see this seventeen year old ago? This has got to

1058
00:51:34,159 --> 00:51:35,119
be some rico suave.

1059
00:51:36,599 --> 00:51:39,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like you know if he looks like Napoleon Dynamite,

1060
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,440
That's what I was thinking, the same thing, Like how funny.

1061
00:51:42,199 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: Would he lost that harm.

1062
00:51:46,159 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 4: Lafonda is the best thing.

1063
00:51:48,159 --> 00:51:50,760
Speaker 1: This is the uh the reading the letter, and it

1064
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,960
started out with I really didn't want to have sex

1065
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,280
with her. This is what the kid says in his letter,

1066
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,679
read by somebody else in the courtroom while he's sitting

1067
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,559
next to his parents. Now, whatever statement I keep calling

1068
00:52:01,559 --> 00:52:05,000
her mc Nutley Nutley read, I think is written by

1069
00:52:05,039 --> 00:52:07,559
her lawyer. This I think was written by the kid's mom.

1070
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,639
Speaker 4: But she insisted she.

1071
00:52:10,639 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: Would not let me alone. She told me she would

1072
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,719
kill herself. When I tried to end, I didn't know

1073
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,079
how to get out of the situation.

1074
00:52:20,039 --> 00:52:22,519
Speaker 4: I finally decided that I didn't want her to do

1075
00:52:22,639 --> 00:52:23,639
this to anyone else.

1076
00:52:24,079 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 6: I told the truth, and the victim said this changed

1077
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,599
his entire high school experience, has left him depressed and

1078
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,800
lacking self worth. Now, in addition to the three years

1079
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,280
in prison, Nutley will have to register as a sex

1080
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,119
offender every ninety days for the rest of her life.

1081
00:52:42,079 --> 00:52:43,119
Speaker 1: Every ninety days.

1082
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 4: It's like, like, you can't just do that once.

1083
00:52:45,119 --> 00:52:47,199
Speaker 1: Well, this is Ohio, so I don't know what Ohio's

1084
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:47,760
rules are.

1085
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 4: It's a lot right, everything stated that puts the O

1086
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,239
in ow I were like, what was it like?

1087
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's not dww I it's operating while in

1088
00:52:59,079 --> 00:53:04,760
toxic Yeah, to make sure the oh in Ohio. Yeah,

1089
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,519
I mean this is weird. And then you think, on

1090
00:53:06,639 --> 00:53:10,000
top of that betrayal under the cross in a way,

1091
00:53:10,519 --> 00:53:13,519
this is a jesuit school. Yeah, you know that that

1092
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,239
would not fly. I mean, and I'm this this is.

1093
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,519
Speaker 4: The kind of like the subject of every eighties rock video.

1094
00:53:21,039 --> 00:53:23,880
The teacher comes in, she's got plaid skirts. It's a

1095
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,800
Catholic school. Kids are dressed up. It's very suggestive, billy.

1096
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, yeah, I just this is a uh what.

1097
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:32,639
Speaker 4: The teacher's gonna look like this year?

1098
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:37,039
Speaker 1: You got a video? You gotta look up Nutley, Emily

1099
00:53:37,159 --> 00:53:41,280
Nutley and tell me what you think of her. Emily Nutley,

1100
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,679
Emily Nutley, because I'm telling you like Emily Nutley does

1101
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:49,000
not look bad. Oh wow, there's like already like sixty

1102
00:53:49,079 --> 00:53:52,880
like pictures. Yeah. Of course, because she admitted it. She's

1103
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,920
one of the few I've ever heard that admitted it

1104
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:56,559
and said yes, I did it.

1105
00:53:56,679 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 4: It's got one of those first day of school pictures.

1106
00:53:58,519 --> 00:54:02,599
Speaker 1: Let me see. Oh yeah, can I see that? Wow?

1107
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if it's a first day

1108
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,239
like like you know, someone took the picture for her,

1109
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:09,800
like you know.

1110
00:54:10,679 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Emily Nutley. I mean this would probably be

1111
00:54:15,639 --> 00:54:19,599
a term that maybe bothersome to some women. She's cute.

1112
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:21,199
She is, she's a cute.

1113
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:26,039
Speaker 4: She's an attractive woman there here, Okay, yes, all like yeah,

1114
00:54:27,079 --> 00:54:30,000
oh my gosh. So like the picture from where she's taking,

1115
00:54:30,159 --> 00:54:32,559
like you know, for first day of school pictures or whatever,

1116
00:54:33,079 --> 00:54:35,719
and the very next picture that you scroll is her

1117
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,679
like like being read her sentence, and she looks like

1118
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,400
she's aged twenty freaking years.

1119
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,559
Speaker 1: Okay, So that's what I'm saying, Like, and I'm sure

1120
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,599
the stress of this and just not.

1121
00:54:46,679 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 4: Look at somebody my age.

1122
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,639
Speaker 1: By the way, nobody is gonna feel bad for this woman,

1123
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,639
No nobody, and you and you shouldn't. But all I'm

1124
00:54:54,679 --> 00:54:58,079
saying is everybody, at some point in their life has

1125
00:54:58,159 --> 00:55:06,719
done something that would be deemed socially not acceptable, socially

1126
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:11,039
not acceptable, and but they haven't had to go through this.

1127
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,159
This is the scarlet letter. Yeah, in a way.

1128
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 4: It is.

1129
00:55:14,639 --> 00:55:17,119
Speaker 1: In a way, I mean, she should fucking know better.

1130
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:21,320
And I think it's somewhere argued about either neglect from

1131
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:26,719
her husband or something. But I mean, clearly you're not

1132
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,840
doing that. If you're happy at home, you're just not right.

1133
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,079
So she wasn't getting the attention that she wanted or whatever.

1134
00:55:33,639 --> 00:55:35,800
Here's a nice way to get laid, get feel like

1135
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,079
you got some self worth. Yourself made me feel like

1136
00:55:39,199 --> 00:55:41,599
I mattered well. And I'll tell you what. You and

1137
00:55:41,679 --> 00:55:43,719
I just talked about it. You said you think of

1138
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:44,719
yourself at what age?

1139
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 4: Twenty two? She probably did too. Yeah, and she's forty. Yeah,

1140
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:52,039
I got'ta remember about my generation. You're a gen xer. Yes,

1141
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,599
I'm not a millennial. Like so we're called senils anyone

1142
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,639
more from seventy seven to eighty three. They're called senils, right,

1143
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,639
they're not quite millennials, but they're not a generation either.

1144
00:56:01,199 --> 00:56:04,000
I call it the Toys r us MTV generation. Okay,

1145
00:56:04,519 --> 00:56:06,800
I don't want to grow up. I'm a toys rsqu

1146
00:56:07,079 --> 00:56:10,360
You had that drained into your brain every afternoon you

1147
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,960
came home from school and every Saturday morning when you're

1148
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,480
watching those damn cartoons, when you were like with a

1149
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,280
big bowl of cereal. Ever, righty talking about remember the

1150
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:18,800
good old days? And we I don't even think it

1151
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,239
show cartoons on Saturday mornings anymore. But the point is

1152
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,039
that we were told we were never gonna have to

1153
00:56:23,119 --> 00:56:25,119
grow up, and I think that that has played into

1154
00:56:25,199 --> 00:56:27,719
our psyche. And when we got to college, I was like,

1155
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,920
whoa parties, Like college was just a given. It was

1156
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:32,800
just a rite of passage that we were just gonna

1157
00:56:33,039 --> 00:56:35,039
go through life and it was gonna be awesome once

1158
00:56:35,119 --> 00:56:37,400
you got your degree, because like our parents grew up

1159
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,440
in the Cold War era, like hey man, we gotta

1160
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,000
fight the comedies and then before you know it, hey,

1161
00:56:41,039 --> 00:56:42,960
you go to college, get a degree, and you'll be

1162
00:56:43,039 --> 00:56:48,800
set for life. There were never any real consequences. Nobody

1163
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:52,719
ever foresaw consequences. We just saw pleasure and joy. And

1164
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,800
then came this woman who wrote a book called Adulting,

1165
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,320
and she regrets writing the books. She's a psychologist, look

1166
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,079
it up. Regrets writing the book because it became a

1167
00:57:02,199 --> 00:57:06,599
label and an excuse for kids, for millennials and Xaniels

1168
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,880
to not grow up, to not take responsibility, to say,

1169
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,119
oh man, this sucks, I gotta go to work today.

1170
00:57:13,119 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: You know, it's weird.

1171
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 4: And I wonder if we just were indoctrinated in the

1172
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,079
idea that we don't have to grow up. Yeah, Mommy

1173
00:57:19,079 --> 00:57:20,639
and Daddy will take care of us. I mean there's

1174
00:57:20,679 --> 00:57:22,519
people my age who still live with their parents.

1175
00:57:22,679 --> 00:57:27,039
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't I'm not familiar with adulting

1176
00:57:27,119 --> 00:57:30,679
or anything, but I I feel like there's a lot

1177
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:34,119
of people who in every generation, Like I don't know,

1178
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,760
I think it's just proportionally worse. And you know how

1179
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,199
we hear about no work ethic know this, know that

1180
00:57:39,239 --> 00:57:42,360
at least say that about every generation. Yeah, but I'm like,

1181
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,719
when I look the kids that my older boys were with,

1182
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,320
they all work. Like Jordan didn't like a job he had,

1183
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:54,760
but he's working on his masters, okay, and he so

1184
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:58,119
he quit, but immediately is working for a friend of

1185
00:57:58,199 --> 00:58:04,000
his mom who a second maybe no, no, no, but

1186
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,639
who does organic farming. And he was helping her hang

1187
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,800
drywall and do some mudding and stuff like that.

1188
00:58:10,159 --> 00:58:12,159
Speaker 4: And you're not helping the description.

1189
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,119
Speaker 1: No, I understand that, but do you see it? But

1190
00:58:14,239 --> 00:58:16,880
like that guy's always working. Yes, Jackson is in New

1191
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,360
York City. He's trying to become a nine one one dispatcher.

1192
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,639
It's probably gonna happen, but right now he's working three jobs.

1193
00:58:22,679 --> 00:58:24,159
I talked to him the other day He's like, I'm

1194
00:58:24,239 --> 00:58:26,719
dragging ass, I go why, he said, I was bar

1195
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:28,880
backing till three am and then I had to go

1196
00:58:29,039 --> 00:58:31,880
be at the banquet hall by seven thirty in the morning.

1197
00:58:32,159 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 4: So he took a nap and then went to work

1198
00:58:33,559 --> 00:58:34,199
and then went to work.

1199
00:58:34,519 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: And I'm like, good, I go good Because I always

1200
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,480
said and argued when my boys were little, because college,

1201
00:58:43,679 --> 00:58:48,440
to your point of college, college was an absolute given

1202
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,039
you were going. It was never a question in my

1203
00:58:51,159 --> 00:58:52,719
house growing up. It was just it.

1204
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,199
Speaker 4: If you were white growing up, college was a given.

1205
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,159
Speaker 1: Well for the most part, yes, but I mean my

1206
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,679
parents went to college, yeah, and so the education was

1207
00:59:00,719 --> 00:59:02,639
a big deal and they were educators. My dad was

1208
00:59:02,679 --> 00:59:05,039
working on his doctorate, and so there was all the

1209
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,760
It was always there, and it was talked about like, ah,

1210
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,000
that's a dorm room style belt you let out there,

1211
00:59:12,079 --> 00:59:14,280
bunny boy, They're gonna love you in the dorm. You

1212
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,519
know that kind of shit. So it was always an expectation.

1213
00:59:17,719 --> 00:59:20,840
And then I knew with some like Jackson, I wasn't

1214
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:25,320
sure because he was uh, you know, on the autisive spectrum,

1215
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,239
a little bit uh or lower end. I think they

1216
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:32,239
called it Asperger's They don't identify that anymore. But I

1217
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:33,880
always said, as long as he had a motor to

1218
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,199
do something, I didn't really care. I wasn't going to

1219
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,800
force you to to do something that wasn't gonna make

1220
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:43,840
your life beneficial. And he's pushed himself hard, hard, and

1221
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,880
then Jordan just as Jordan just he's always gonna be

1222
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:47,360
doing something.

1223
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, Ian jameson Scott it, I mean, I see it.

1224
00:59:49,719 --> 00:59:56,159
I see it in him too. He'll be fine. But yeah, yeah,

1225
00:59:56,519 --> 00:59:59,480
you're you're right. I just I mean, I I see it,

1226
00:59:59,559 --> 01:00:01,639
though more more each generation there's more and more of

1227
01:00:01,679 --> 01:00:05,079
a I guess still a college hangover or a rested

1228
01:00:05,079 --> 01:00:08,440
a state of arrested development that could be sure, that

1229
01:00:08,519 --> 01:00:10,239
could because it was always allowed.

1230
01:00:11,079 --> 01:00:12,079
Speaker 1: Well I think that.

1231
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 4: Think about it. You're you're insured on your parents' insurance

1232
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:16,559
until you're twenty six years old.

1233
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 1: Does that not seem old? You can be?

1234
01:00:19,599 --> 01:00:21,119
Speaker 4: You can be, but you mean you can be.

1235
01:00:21,239 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I hear you. But I often think, like.

1236
01:00:25,639 --> 01:00:28,159
Speaker 4: My father, you graduate from high school eighteen, you get

1237
01:00:28,239 --> 01:00:30,679
married at nineteen, you have a kid, you get a house. Yeah,

1238
01:00:30,719 --> 01:00:34,039
you know, that's that's your life, right, that's my father's generation.

1239
01:00:34,159 --> 01:00:38,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, graduating and here's the thing that Okay, so now

1240
01:00:38,239 --> 01:00:40,960
this is interesting that you say this. We're going a

1241
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:41,960
little long good.

1242
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:43,639
Speaker 4: I think we're all that a segment two.

1243
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.

1244
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:46,719
Speaker 4: I like to talk Bill.

1245
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:53,239
Speaker 1: No, I well, I have been pushing, not pushing, but

1246
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:59,239
I would say where you're going the delay of what

1247
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,719
do you call it, not the delay of adulthood necessary,

1248
01:01:01,719 --> 01:01:06,440
the rest of development, or I would say this, there's

1249
01:01:06,559 --> 01:01:10,360
a window in life where you get to explore and

1250
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:14,400
do as much different things as you can with no

1251
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:19,039
real responsibilities other than taking care of yourself. And that's

1252
01:01:19,079 --> 01:01:22,440
called your twenties. In my opinion. Yes, doesn't mean I'm right,

1253
01:01:23,079 --> 01:01:25,159
but I look at certain things, and I have been

1254
01:01:25,239 --> 01:01:28,639
trying to encourage Jordan, who is twenty three. I'm like, buddy,

1255
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,760
I don't care what you do. You know, you're bitching

1256
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,880
and complaining about a job that's paying it eighteen seventeen

1257
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:39,000
to fifty an hour, and they're going to give you

1258
01:01:39,039 --> 01:01:41,840
a dollar more to be the general manager. So now

1259
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:43,440
it's eighteen fifty an hour.

1260
01:01:43,719 --> 01:01:46,639
Speaker 4: Really, I had thirty seven thousand dollars a year.

1261
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,519
Speaker 1: That's nice, that's fine, I got it. Hey, look you're young.

1262
01:01:49,639 --> 01:01:52,320
You're starting out, I go, But for all this frustration,

1263
01:01:52,719 --> 01:01:56,920
why not, why not go? You're in phenomenal shape. You're

1264
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,079
never going to look as good as you look today.

1265
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:05,960
Right ever, again, kids in great shape, handsome guy, go,

1266
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,400
I said, go, go, go live in Martha's vineyard for

1267
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:11,880
the summer and go out to Park City for the winter,

1268
01:02:12,199 --> 01:02:14,320
and do that for two years and who cares? And

1269
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,440
then you're twenty five and then go get a job,

1270
01:02:16,639 --> 01:02:19,760
because to tie yourself to the corporate grind, like I don't,

1271
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,920
I worry that college used to be and it was

1272
01:02:23,719 --> 01:02:27,800
college was the college to me was like, you know,

1273
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,599
knowledge for the sake of knowledge. It really can't be anymore.

1274
01:02:30,679 --> 01:02:34,719
It's so gosh, aren't expensive that you can't You've got

1275
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,199
to go and get the job immediately. It's almost become

1276
01:02:37,199 --> 01:02:40,800
a luxury. Yes it is, it is. But everybody's going

1277
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,800
and they're getting trained, they're getting specialized or whatever, and

1278
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:45,719
then they got to go and work immediately. And my

1279
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,480
thing is, go live, go explore. My brother did it

1280
01:02:48,599 --> 01:02:51,599
right where he was, you know, overseas and backpacked through

1281
01:02:51,639 --> 01:02:53,639
Europe and then had a job and quit the job

1282
01:02:53,719 --> 01:02:56,760
and bought a bike and bicycled from Seattle to Virginia

1283
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,599
and read all these books and oh yeah, yeah, he

1284
01:02:59,679 --> 01:03:04,519
did all all that shit. Kevin. He wound up being

1285
01:03:04,519 --> 01:03:07,280
a labor negotiator. Kevin was in flight school. He had

1286
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,960
been flying planes my brother since he was fourteen, and

1287
01:03:10,039 --> 01:03:12,199
my father used suiting to me, I love these flying

1288
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:16,599
planes because if he gets one mark on his driver's license,

1289
01:03:16,639 --> 01:03:19,199
he loses his pilot's license. And he had been flying

1290
01:03:19,239 --> 01:03:23,440
it prior to having his driver's license. Because the reason

1291
01:03:23,519 --> 01:03:26,119
that was said to me was I had many, many,

1292
01:03:26,159 --> 01:03:29,840
many many tickets as a young man, lots of feeding tickets.

1293
01:03:30,199 --> 01:03:33,800
So but then he went out to flight school in Indiana,

1294
01:03:34,239 --> 01:03:36,239
hit a wind sheer, had an engine stall goes this

1295
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:40,320
isn't for me. Came back, wasn't sure what he was

1296
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,199
going to do, so he was substitute teaching and going

1297
01:03:43,239 --> 01:03:46,840
to the community college. Hated living with my parents. Then

1298
01:03:47,079 --> 01:03:50,079
through the community college, found out that he could study abroad,

1299
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:54,400
so he for the second semester of community college went

1300
01:03:54,480 --> 01:04:01,280
to England and studied in Cambridge and then backpacked through

1301
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,519
Europe that summer, came back and then went to Cornell,

1302
01:04:05,199 --> 01:04:09,440
finished up, transferred into Cornell, finished there and got a

1303
01:04:09,559 --> 01:04:12,320
job being a labor negotiator living down in Manhattan. I

1304
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,559
think there was like the Upper East Side of Manhattan,

1305
01:04:16,519 --> 01:04:18,480
but there was like six or seven guys in an apartment,

1306
01:04:18,559 --> 01:04:20,920
but they all weren't there once. They all had weird hours,

1307
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,519
so some guys would be sleeping some guys. Yeah, and

1308
01:04:24,039 --> 01:04:26,840
a hostel partied, partied, had a great time. But he

1309
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,239
worked as a labor negotiator where he had to do

1310
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,800
the contracts between the city and the fire department, sitting

1311
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:33,639
in the police department. And he goes, it was a

1312
01:04:33,679 --> 01:04:38,639
cubical job basically, And he walked in one day and

1313
01:04:38,719 --> 01:04:41,119
I think they were having somebody celebrating thirty years. And

1314
01:04:41,159 --> 01:04:43,480
my brother goes, I can't do this. I can't do this.

1315
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:47,440
So he quit, bought a bicycle, flew out, had trained

1316
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,480
a little bit, decided he was going to bike from

1317
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,159
the West coast to the East coast. And there are

1318
01:04:52,519 --> 01:04:54,800
books written about it and paths you can take and

1319
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,880
people who open up their home to cyclists to come through.

1320
01:04:58,239 --> 01:04:59,920
And he flew out to Seattle, stayed with a friend

1321
01:05:00,079 --> 01:05:02,719
for a week and then bike back. Yeah.

1322
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 7: No, right, and you go that's what you need to

1323
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:11,880
be doing. I'm not saying that's adulting in a different way.

1324
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:15,079
You're taking responsibility, but you're living your life. You've got

1325
01:05:15,199 --> 01:05:19,119
great life experience. You got an education on that fucking

1326
01:05:19,199 --> 01:05:20,559
bicycle that I'll never have.

1327
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You met, you know how

1328
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,880
to survive. You were probably scared out of your mind

1329
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:31,119
for a while, lonely as shit for days, whatever weather, sucky,

1330
01:05:31,239 --> 01:05:33,960
whatever's happened, and you made it. You made it through.

1331
01:05:34,079 --> 01:05:36,880
That had to be probably, I think one of the

1332
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:38,639
great and he's gonna do it with his kid someday.

1333
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,159
That's what I'm saying when I say that. So I

1334
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,039
say that to young people all the time. This girl

1335
01:05:45,079 --> 01:05:46,360
the other day was saying something to me, I go

1336
01:05:47,679 --> 01:05:51,159
to go right into a career. It's gonna be there. Yes,

1337
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,360
you're gonna have a time where you're gonna be married

1338
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,960
and have the mortgage and then go do this now,

1339
01:05:56,519 --> 01:05:59,119
go to France, live there for a while, bank Pierre,

1340
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:01,119
and then come back. You know what I mean.

1341
01:06:02,239 --> 01:06:04,239
Speaker 4: But I say that as a no I get that

1342
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:06,360
I and I would looking back, I wish I had

1343
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:09,079
the same type of gumption and ambition has said. I decided,

1344
01:06:09,159 --> 01:06:11,400
like right out of college to get you know, my

1345
01:06:11,559 --> 01:06:14,159
radio career started right me too. I was nineteen doing

1346
01:06:14,199 --> 01:06:16,840
it and without a real like roadmap of how to

1347
01:06:17,039 --> 01:06:19,719
even do that. H it don't work out eventually, but

1348
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,440
from now, just to give you the counter argue, which

1349
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,840
is not even nearly as romantic or as sexy. All

1350
01:06:25,119 --> 01:06:27,559
it's not, I just feel obligated to as a software

1351
01:06:27,599 --> 01:06:31,920
sales recruiter. They software companies frown on people who do

1352
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:35,119
stuff like that. It sucks. I mean like it sucks

1353
01:06:35,159 --> 01:06:37,159
that they frown on it. The reason is because they

1354
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,119
want you to hit the ground running before your senior

1355
01:06:40,199 --> 01:06:42,000
year at college, ready to train and sell and go.

1356
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,199
They don't want that romantic story. They hate stories of

1357
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,679
taking time off or whatever. No, I need you to

1358
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,199
sell now. So it really depends on what type of

1359
01:06:50,239 --> 01:06:52,800
career path you wanted to do that. And I think

1360
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:54,639
the fact that your brother like was able to make

1361
01:06:54,679 --> 01:06:57,280
those quick decisions enabled him to live that type of life.

1362
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 1: I also think that people who are in tell legend

1363
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,840
are and self aware and realize most of their self

1364
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,800
worth comes from withinside is not going to be persuaded

1365
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:08,320
one way.

1366
01:07:08,199 --> 01:07:08,519
Speaker 4: Or the other.

1367
01:07:09,039 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 1: And they can see these things. And I said to

1368
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,440
somebody the other day, I'm like, look, there are certain

1369
01:07:15,519 --> 01:07:17,559
jobs that AIRE is never.

1370
01:07:17,519 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 4: Going to be able to take over, right, And they're

1371
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,039
just not and they're not gonna be able to argue

1372
01:07:22,039 --> 01:07:22,719
in a court of law.

1373
01:07:22,719 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 1: And they're not gonna be able to argue in corner law.

1374
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,280
They're not gonna be able to teach a class necessarily,

1375
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:30,840
So you're gonna need human right so that job will

1376
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,039
be there, and it'll be there today, it'll be there

1377
01:07:33,119 --> 01:07:36,239
five years from now when you're ready whatever. So if

1378
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:39,199
you get the opportunity, because I will tell you you

1379
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:43,760
go to these really ritzy places where people to be rich.

1380
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,280
He had to be successful, somebody had a work ethic.

1381
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:48,760
You wi'll mean interesting people. That's how my brother got

1382
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,440
into find My brother had a job lined up with

1383
01:07:51,639 --> 01:07:55,519
FedEx as a pilot before he graduated because he was

1384
01:07:55,599 --> 01:07:59,119
working in a fancy restaurant in Millbrook, New York, and

1385
01:07:59,239 --> 01:08:01,280
the head of FEDS would come in, the guy who

1386
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,800
was the president of FedEx, and he started talking to

1387
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,920
my brother, like because that's my brother. It starts talking

1388
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:12,000
and finds out that he's a pilot and going to

1389
01:08:12,039 --> 01:08:14,679
flight school and the guy's like, hey man, here's my card.

1390
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,600
When you're done, call me. We're always looking for pilots.

1391
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:19,279
We'll get you in if you need to do an

1392
01:08:19,319 --> 01:08:23,640
internship flight whatever, let me know. So the connections were,

1393
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:25,520
you know what I'm saying, Like, but my point is

1394
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:28,560
it's always gonna be there. But if you went and

1395
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:30,840
you went to park City, where there's lots of money,

1396
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:34,479
you may meet somebody who changes your life and not

1397
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:37,760
necessarily negatively, may impact. May have just given you a

1398
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:41,520
sentence that when you were like, holy shit, okay, yeah, man,

1399
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:44,159
I get that or whatever it is. Or you see

1400
01:08:44,199 --> 01:08:46,560
somebody and go, that's the life I want. That's the

1401
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,520
motivation I want. That's all I'm saying. Instead of this,

1402
01:08:50,119 --> 01:08:52,199
you know, tunnel vision, we got to you gotta do

1403
01:08:52,239 --> 01:08:53,800
it this way, you gotta watch this way. You gonna

1404
01:08:54,079 --> 01:08:56,159
you know, have a ticki techy little house and move on.

1405
01:08:56,319 --> 01:08:59,720
And yeah, all right, we've gone too long. One last segment, Danning,

1406
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:03,479
We'll do this back to Ohio. They want to bring

1407
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:06,720
back city was gone. They want to bring back something.

1408
01:09:07,199 --> 01:09:10,479
They want to bring something back to Ohio. Well, yeah,

1409
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,880
and I think if it goes to Ohio, I wonder

1410
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:16,479
if it'll all come back for us. I think you

1411
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:18,560
and I were not far from I think I had

1412
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:22,880
to do this. I'm not sure if you did. Well, No,

1413
01:09:23,079 --> 01:09:26,479
you probably did too, because I don't think I don't

1414
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:30,520
think this changed until twenty twelve under Obama. But I

1415
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,760
don't think the way Obama envisioned it is the way

1416
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,640
it came out. I don't think his intention was fully

1417
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:40,399
carried out. Nope, Okay, nope, we will get to that

1418
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,159
right after this. You know what's coming up, his graduation.

1419
01:09:43,279 --> 01:09:45,279
For a lot of people, Leo's my friends. You know what,

1420
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,159
you know what makes a nice gift. Honestly, if you're

1421
01:09:48,239 --> 01:09:51,640
going even to a picnic or something, you never want

1422
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:53,680
to show up empty handed. Why don't you come with

1423
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:56,039
some Leo's cookies? I would I Why don't you go

1424
01:09:56,119 --> 01:09:59,680
over there and get some Leo's Cannoli's the Canoli Station, Yes,

1425
01:10:00,119 --> 01:10:02,640
fill it right up for you. They can be fresh, fresh,

1426
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,800
and you can get like chocolate chip filled. You can

1427
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:09,039
get it's it's delicious. And then I like things like

1428
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:12,000
Boar's Head was something I grew up with in cold

1429
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,960
cuts and things. They're delicious. They have a grabbing go

1430
01:10:15,159 --> 01:10:16,880
case so you don't have to wait in line. If

1431
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,079
you just know that I want a quarter pound of cheat.

1432
01:10:19,079 --> 01:10:21,600
They got it all right there. They make it so convenient,

1433
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:26,159
so easy, and don't forget two dollars fresh bread. Yeah right, brilliant,

1434
01:10:26,279 --> 01:10:29,359
yeah right there, all perfect. They got the stuff, breads,

1435
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:33,000
they got everything, everything. Yeah, because what's the best thing

1436
01:10:33,039 --> 01:10:33,880
about Leo's Yeah?

1437
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:34,399
Speaker 4: Everything.

1438
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:37,560
Speaker 1: All right, we'll take a moment. Do we get into

1439
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:39,920
a little bit of Bill's talk or do you want

1440
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:46,920
to talk about people putting their hands on sports casters?

1441
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 4: Huh?

1442
01:10:48,199 --> 01:10:52,640
Speaker 1: Putting their hands on sportscasters. That might be more interesting. Okay,

1443
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:53,319
do you want to do that.

1444
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 4: Let's do that one.

1445
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,119
Speaker 1: All right, we'll do the hands. There's been a lot

1446
01:10:56,159 --> 01:11:01,199
of hands lately. Hands, hands like physically putting hands like

1447
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:04,640
almost in a threatening manner on somebody. And we'll get

1448
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:08,079
to all that right after this. Got a home improvement conundrum.

1449
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:12,079
Time to call in the superheroes. Mack of all Trades.

1450
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1451
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kitchen looking like it's stuck in the nineties. Mac of

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1459
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Speaker 9: You get that.

1460
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:13,600
Speaker 1: Brian Wilson passed at eighty two. I think this is

1461
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:17,520
from sixty six. Is that when pet sounds going on?

1462
01:12:19,039 --> 01:12:20,000
I don't know it.

1463
01:12:20,119 --> 01:12:22,319
Speaker 4: Mand it had to be because it came out before

1464
01:12:22,359 --> 01:12:26,239
Sergeant Pepper Beatles broke up in sixty eight or sixty nine.

1465
01:12:28,039 --> 01:12:29,800
I think the Beatles broke up around the time that

1466
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:33,520
the Apollo thirteen got lost again. I didn't live through this.

1467
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:35,119
Speaker 1: This is just what I sixty six.

1468
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 4: It sounds influenced so many other records.

1469
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 1: When you hear this, it's like the lament of young people.

1470
01:12:49,279 --> 01:12:51,520
We can't live together. We you know, we can't have

1471
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:54,680
sex when we want, we can't make out, we get whatever.

1472
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:58,800
Now it's w a P. Why come on, that's a

1473
01:12:59,039 --> 01:13:02,279
moment empowerment song. Yeah. I always argue that it is

1474
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:05,319
only in that they're talking about their wet ass puts

1475
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:08,119
that they're gonna throw around. I mean it's a little graphic.

1476
01:13:08,199 --> 01:13:10,079
I'll give you that, but I kind of like it.

1477
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:14,560
It's okay, I know, until you get knocked up a

1478
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:20,079
hundred percent, I will give you that. Yes you're or

1479
01:13:20,119 --> 01:13:21,720
you get the herbs. I don't know, but this is

1480
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,800
like it wouldn't it be nice? Like they're wishing for

1481
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:29,399
the future and hoping, and my god, what a beautiful

1482
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:31,079
way he players this.

1483
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:39,199
Speaker 4: There's no band like the Beach Boys. Yeah, Jan and

1484
01:13:39,279 --> 01:13:43,840
Deane were like the closest, but man, the harmonies just fit.

1485
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:47,479
I mean, just wonderful and it's always happy, like everybody

1486
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:49,560
says like that. The joking ways were was like lud

1487
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:52,319
Zippeltin' right tunes. Everybody like they lifted to the beaches.

1488
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,760
But before that it was the Beach Boys. The Beach Boys, like,

1489
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:57,560
can you find a Beach Boys song that you hate?

1490
01:13:58,319 --> 01:13:59,560
You don't have to like them all, but is there

1491
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:01,159
a Beach Boy song that he actually hates?

1492
01:14:01,279 --> 01:14:03,239
Speaker 1: Beach Boys song that I hate?

1493
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:05,600
Speaker 4: Is there anybody who hates a Beach Boys song?

1494
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:08,359
Speaker 1: No? I don't. I don't think there is.

1495
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 4: My first exposure to the Beach Boys was nineteen eighty eight.

1496
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:13,399
They were on an episode of Full House and Cocomo

1497
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:15,560
was a big hit. The movie Cocktail had come out.

1498
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:18,319
Speaker 1: That's the song I hate. That's the Beach Boy song

1499
01:14:18,399 --> 01:14:20,640
I Hate Pokemon. But that was like twenty years after

1500
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:22,439
their fucking map it is.

1501
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:26,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, well yeah, but it inspired our song Limo Joe

1502
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:29,760
Yes that we did on the Breakthrough It. So yeah,

1503
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,560
So the Beach Boys influenced me in our show. But

1504
01:14:33,039 --> 01:14:36,119
I mean I remember like a surfing Safari or something,

1505
01:14:36,239 --> 01:14:37,960
or like Summer Sounds of Summer. It was like a

1506
01:14:38,239 --> 01:14:40,560
record they had. My father bought that for me, and

1507
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:42,840
my mother bought that for me for my ninth birthday.

1508
01:14:43,159 --> 01:14:46,279
I played the crap out of that cassette. I loved

1509
01:14:46,319 --> 01:14:48,600
it just I just loved the Beach Boys songs. They

1510
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:52,520
were just fantastic. There wasn't one song that I didn't like. Yeah,

1511
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:54,319
I can see that and Cocomo sounds like a song

1512
01:14:54,319 --> 01:14:57,680
it could have been produced yesterday. It was so well produced.

1513
01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,359
I know you don't like it, but man johnst playing

1514
01:15:00,359 --> 01:15:01,119
the drums.

1515
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:02,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play it now. I'm gonna find it.

1516
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:08,359
Speaker 4: Of the Florida Keeper, there's a place called There's a

1517
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:14,159
guy named Joke. I'm about all over Florida, Miami, Las Vegas,

1518
01:15:15,039 --> 01:15:18,840
Kansas City, apples and all over the carina.

1519
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:23,119
Speaker 1: I gotta go find those this summer. A thumb drive

1520
01:15:23,199 --> 01:15:25,560
that Dave gave us this summer. I'm not gonna be

1521
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:28,960
around much. Okay, I'm gonna be working. Okay, I'm telling

1522
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,880
you that right now. All right. See, it's like like

1523
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:34,880
a fucking they took a dark dude, but.

1524
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,039
Speaker 4: Man, they got a huge shit, like twenty years after

1525
01:15:37,079 --> 01:15:37,600
their prime.

1526
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:41,119
Speaker 1: They did just like a piece of piles thing ship

1527
01:15:41,199 --> 01:15:45,000
that people like. This isn't pet sounds. This is not

1528
01:15:45,199 --> 01:15:45,920
pet sounds.

1529
01:15:46,239 --> 01:15:47,039
Speaker 4: No, it's not no.

1530
01:15:47,279 --> 01:15:50,520
Speaker 1: But when you're like nine and they're whole house, it's

1531
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:51,079
pretty cool.

1532
01:15:53,039 --> 01:15:56,039
Speaker 4: That's This is probably Wilson's. Is al Jardine singing lead.

1533
01:15:56,880 --> 01:16:00,359
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know. I think it's al Jardine actually, but

1534
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:00,800
I don't know.

1535
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:05,159
Speaker 4: Because I don't know fullest closure. I never know who's

1536
01:16:05,159 --> 01:16:06,600
singing with the Beach Boys lead.

1537
01:16:07,119 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 1: I'm assuming it's Brian mostly, but I don't know.

1538
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:11,199
Speaker 4: I couldn't tell you.

1539
01:16:13,079 --> 01:16:14,279
Speaker 1: I thought Mike Love singing.

1540
01:16:14,399 --> 01:16:16,159
Speaker 4: Maybe what I think this is Mike Love now you

1541
01:16:16,239 --> 01:16:19,359
think about him. I think it's Michael isn't either, cousin,

1542
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:31,680
I don't know, let.

1543
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 1: Me see you. But this is real quick. This is

1544
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:38,079
Brian Wilson coming out on a Letterman and he's sitting

1545
01:16:38,119 --> 01:16:41,239
down at the piano. Listen to people scream for him. Yeah,

1546
01:16:44,399 --> 01:16:46,800
we'll see who plays here. This is from the old

1547
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:47,479
Letterman show.

1548
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:04,520
Speaker 4: This NBC or CBS version.

1549
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:20,560
Speaker 1: See now I'd like this.

1550
01:17:24,039 --> 01:17:25,279
Speaker 4: He sounds like Jimmy Buffett.

1551
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:30,199
Speaker 1: Well that's why. By the way, okay, Cocomo is is

1552
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:32,239
all right, I'm gonna give you him one.

1553
01:17:32,399 --> 01:17:35,159
Speaker 4: Okay, South America Jimmy Buffett and uh and.

1554
01:17:35,279 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 1: And hang on, this is Cocomo.

1555
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 4: Brian Wilson collaborated once a song called South America. I

1556
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:41,199
think they did.

1557
01:17:41,359 --> 01:17:43,039
Speaker 1: Yes, I love Jimmy.

1558
01:17:43,079 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 4: I heard it on the way here.

1559
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:47,239
Speaker 1: That's how I know that I love Jimmy Buffett. Uh.

1560
01:17:49,079 --> 01:17:52,720
Now this is so This to me is what Cocomo is.

1561
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,199
And I like this song so much better because it

1562
01:17:55,279 --> 01:17:58,000
was Jimmy and it was sort of underground in its

1563
01:17:58,039 --> 01:18:03,359
own little weird way. I see, you're gonna get through

1564
01:18:03,399 --> 01:18:06,000
whatever this ad is, and then we will play this

1565
01:18:06,119 --> 01:18:07,960
for you. See if you agree with me, and we

1566
01:18:08,039 --> 01:18:10,880
can even go back to Cocomo just for the same thing.

1567
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:14,199
But this one was a more fun song. It was

1568
01:18:14,199 --> 01:18:14,720
a little more.

1569
01:18:22,359 --> 01:18:24,520
Speaker 4: Oh, okay, I can see that.

1570
01:18:36,399 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 5: Now, don't know, don't right, I don't know, but I'm

1571
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:48,680
going to go in the ballad tell the start of

1572
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:49,039
the map.

1573
01:18:50,399 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it was more fun. I don't know. Yeah,

1574
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:57,760
you're right, Cokemo is well produced.

1575
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:11,680
Speaker 4: Round season mean sum must look in God.

1576
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 8: We learned to.

1577
01:19:19,079 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 4: Let me now?

1578
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:20,680
Speaker 8: No?

1579
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 1: Wait is this girl? Quick?

1580
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 4: No?

1581
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 1: I know it is you. Now? Where's the songs? Left them? Where?

1582
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:42,920
I not where? There's another song where he sings like

1583
01:19:43,039 --> 01:19:45,920
I won't go to wherever? I thought it was volcano

1584
01:19:46,239 --> 01:19:48,520
and he names all these cities and things, and I go,

1585
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:51,319
that's like cocoe to me. I screwed up my own analogy.

1586
01:19:53,159 --> 01:19:56,119
Speaker 4: You think about it, and is SA volcanoes anywhere? Really?

1587
01:19:56,159 --> 01:19:58,640
Mount Helen's was a was a mountain until it became

1588
01:19:58,640 --> 01:19:59,199
a volcano.

1589
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 1: Did you have to take the Presidential Physical Fitness Test?

1590
01:20:03,199 --> 01:20:03,239
Speaker 5: No?

1591
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:05,279
Speaker 4: In fact, when I saw it in an episode of

1592
01:20:05,399 --> 01:20:07,960
Wonder Years, I'm like, you guys used to have to

1593
01:20:08,039 --> 01:20:08,239
do this?

1594
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:08,600
Speaker 5: Yes?

1595
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:11,359
Speaker 4: My mother's like, oh, yeah, you had the President's Challenge?

1596
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:14,039
Speaker 1: Did you have to You didn't have to do that? No,

1597
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:16,439
we didn't have to climb. We had to do the

1598
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:18,640
New York State Fitness Test. Okay, but we didn't have

1599
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:24,119
to do the physical physical Eisenhower came up with this, Yes,

1600
01:20:24,359 --> 01:20:26,479
but did you have to climb the ropes in the gym?

1601
01:20:27,159 --> 01:20:27,319
Speaker 4: Uh?

1602
01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:29,560
Speaker 1: Yeah? I was terrible at it. Right, How did it

1603
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:30,079
make you feel?

1604
01:20:30,399 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 4: It gave you a boner? What you're rubbing against the

1605
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:37,439
rope leber Wayne's world. I hate the references twice. It

1606
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:39,319
makes me feel kind of funny, like we used to

1607
01:20:39,359 --> 01:20:41,600
climb the ropes gym class garth.

1608
01:20:42,319 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 1: No, I mean no.

1609
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 4: They said, don't when you climb, when you go, when

1610
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:49,680
you when you let go, don't let the rope fall

1611
01:20:50,079 --> 01:20:53,239
because it'll burn your hands. You got slippers, yes, but

1612
01:20:53,319 --> 01:20:55,840
I never even got like two inches off the ground.

1613
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 1: I was so bad. And then people make funny or anything.

1614
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,159
Speaker 4: Gosh, yeah, okay, they're only like a handful of guys

1615
01:21:02,159 --> 01:21:03,039
that could actually climb.

1616
01:21:03,239 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 1: So apparently they're trying to bring back the Presidential Physical

1617
01:21:06,039 --> 01:21:11,000
Physical Fitness Test, and we're.

1618
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:13,640
Speaker 4: Gonna have the fittest, we're gonna have the best athletes

1619
01:21:14,159 --> 01:21:15,239
under my presidency.

1620
01:21:16,079 --> 01:21:20,319
Speaker 1: The original program was under Eisenhower. It retired in twenty twelve.

1621
01:21:20,399 --> 01:21:22,079
That's why I thought maybe you did it. I'm pretty

1622
01:21:22,119 --> 01:21:24,319
sure I had to do the Presidential Physical Fitness.

1623
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 4: We live in a blue state, Billy, so maybe like

1624
01:21:27,039 --> 01:21:28,720
our rules supersede the president's rules.

1625
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:31,039
Speaker 1: We had to do the New York State Physical Fitness Test. Yeah,

1626
01:21:31,039 --> 01:21:33,079
but I thought I had to do it at some point,

1627
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:36,920
the Presidential Physical Fit. Maybe I'm wrong, But in twenty twelve,

1628
01:21:37,039 --> 01:21:42,840
Obama changed it and ranked students by percentage was I

1629
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:46,399
think Obama? I don't think he there was something else

1630
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:50,159
he tried to do that that would make it more equal,

1631
01:21:50,239 --> 01:21:51,600
so kids wouldn't be dannaed.

1632
01:21:53,359 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 4: But that defeats the entire purpose, not to kill our president.

1633
01:21:56,840 --> 01:22:00,159
I'm just saying, no, the Americans at this time, we're

1634
01:22:00,159 --> 01:22:03,560
going to have almost athletic country on the planet. But

1635
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:06,039
if you're not as athletic, if I say you're like Nanny,

1636
01:22:06,399 --> 01:22:09,079
well we have a special scoring system just for you.

1637
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 1: This is where equity started. Yeah, the new proposal. Okay,

1638
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:18,720
students below the fifteen percent, I'll get a participation award.

1639
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:24,119
This is a problem, hang on, while those above fifty

1640
01:22:24,359 --> 01:22:28,760
or eighty five percent get performance recognition. The goal is

1641
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:32,279
to fight sedentary lifestyle. I'll say this, I.

1642
01:22:32,359 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 4: Think you don't want to end up like jam McCain

1643
01:22:34,039 --> 01:22:34,840
in a prison.

1644
01:22:35,199 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 1: I think even in my son's lives and and there's

1645
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:42,079
a decade close to a decade between Jordan and Jameson,

1646
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:47,319
I think that there is a much more sedentary, sedentary

1647
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:51,720
sident have iary sedentary lifestyle because I think the new

1648
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:54,479
smoking well, I think there's a lot of a lot

1649
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:57,960
of on my phone on my phone, looking, watching, seeing

1650
01:22:58,399 --> 01:23:01,199
and not doing, yes and not out and doing, and

1651
01:23:01,279 --> 01:23:04,880
then seeing people who are doing and going I want

1652
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,279
to do that? What do I really? Because it's more fun.

1653
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:10,640
It's easier to sit here and not do anything. But

1654
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:13,159
they had like I mean, you had a sixty year

1655
01:23:13,159 --> 01:23:18,560
old gym teacher yelling at yours your ham strings set right, streets,

1656
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:19,159
it's sit.

1657
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:22,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, it sucked. Yeah, I remember by the way they

1658
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:26,399
say that psychological what is the hamstring stretch? That like

1659
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:29,760
if if you if Peter Atia, doctor Peter Atia was

1660
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:31,840
saying this that if they if they put you out

1661
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:35,640
in a hospital bed for surgery, right, they can literally

1662
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:38,159
take your leg and move it all the way back

1663
01:23:38,239 --> 01:23:41,079
to your head. It's psychologically you're afraid you're gonna tear

1664
01:23:41,159 --> 01:23:44,319
something in your head when you're when you're reaching down, like, oh,

1665
01:23:44,359 --> 01:23:46,000
I can only go so far. You're afraid you're gonna

1666
01:23:46,039 --> 01:23:48,800
hurt yourself. You're gonna yeah, you're gonna put but if

1667
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:51,199
you knock somebody out, they can stretch your your legs

1668
01:23:51,239 --> 01:23:52,279
all the way back to your ears.

1669
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:56,720
Speaker 1: Really, yes, it's psycho psychosomatic or psychic. To go home

1670
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:59,319
and tell that to Beth. Seriously, we can get the

1671
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:04,520
back there, am I not? Yeah? What Danny didn't think

1672
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:05,159
I was gonna go there?

1673
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:10,560
Speaker 4: No, I just had a you know, boom, next thing,

1674
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:11,880
I know, I woke up on the floor.

1675
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:17,199
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not sure how I feel about this thing,

1676
01:24:18,239 --> 01:24:20,159
because there wasn't a gym class Shane.

1677
01:24:20,199 --> 01:24:22,640
Speaker 4: You know trial look behind, Well, here's the here's the problem.

1678
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 1: Like and I'll say in two ways, when you like

1679
01:24:29,079 --> 01:24:33,560
the example earlier of dyslexia, you don't want to participate

1680
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,000
because it's frustrating and you don't want to look stupid.

1681
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:39,279
And it's the same thing in gym class. What what

1682
01:24:39,359 --> 01:24:40,039
are you laughing at?

1683
01:24:40,399 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 4: You know, I was the only kid in the history

1684
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:46,319
of my school who couldn't swim. What missus Glenn, God

1685
01:24:46,399 --> 01:24:50,359
bless her. She would put like floaties on me, life jacket,

1686
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:51,920
whatever she could to try to get me to That

1687
01:24:52,039 --> 01:24:54,039
poor woman did everything she could to try to get

1688
01:24:54,079 --> 01:24:55,520
me to swim. I just couldn't do it.

1689
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 1: Can you still not swim?

1690
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 4: I can kind of swim, but like I like, if

1691
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:01,920
I had to, if I had to, Yeah, but I

1692
01:25:02,079 --> 01:25:02,600
was awful.

1693
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:04,199
Speaker 1: I was awful.

1694
01:25:04,239 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 4: I'm the only I'm the only student in the history

1695
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:08,479
of the school where the actual gym teacher got into

1696
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:11,960
the water with me. That's how bad a swimmer I was.

1697
01:25:12,079 --> 01:25:15,039
That's how awful I was okay at it when all

1698
01:25:15,079 --> 01:25:16,920
my other kids, all my other friends were taking swim

1699
01:25:17,039 --> 01:25:20,239
lessons in school. My father, you don't need that crap. Oh,

1700
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:24,119
and so I never learned to swim. And besides, he

1701
01:25:24,159 --> 01:25:26,039
has tubes in his ears. You can't get water his ears.

1702
01:25:26,119 --> 01:25:28,000
We can't have take him swimming if I just don't

1703
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:30,479
want to pay for it. And I never learned to

1704
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:33,359
swim ever, live by a lake my entire life. Never

1705
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:33,960
learned to swim.

1706
01:25:36,039 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 1: Well, listen, Nike and foil math and a push up

1707
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:43,880
test in the same week. I I my thing is

1708
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:47,039
to that, yes, right you. What I think the whole

1709
01:25:47,159 --> 01:25:50,680
goal should be is to not have a sedentary lifestyle,

1710
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:53,960
and we should encourage people at whatever level you are

1711
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:57,520
is good enough. Try If you're at the I can't

1712
01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:00,960
swim level and I need swimmings, let's go for Let's

1713
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:03,640
get you to where you don't need swimmings, right, and

1714
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:06,479
that that sort of thing, instead of the humiliation where

1715
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:08,079
you got to climb the rope and you can't and

1716
01:26:08,199 --> 01:26:08,560
fuck it.

1717
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:12,399
Speaker 4: And here's president can't even get off the ground. Yeah,

1718
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:14,920
class president clearly didn't bother you.

1719
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:18,920
Speaker 1: It didn't until we got done with class. But like,

1720
01:26:19,039 --> 01:26:22,560
it didn't ruin your confidence in yourself because you had

1721
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:24,560
to have confidence to run for class presidents.

1722
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 4: Now my dad made me do that, but I won.

1723
01:26:29,119 --> 01:26:31,720
I won, and the reason I was because nobody wanted

1724
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:35,680
to organize the class reunion. But but yeah, no, I

1725
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:38,319
didn't really ruin the cop But as an athletic, it

1726
01:26:38,399 --> 01:26:40,000
really did bother me that I was always in the

1727
01:26:40,039 --> 01:26:41,880
shallow end and that I didn't swim.

1728
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:46,039
Speaker 1: Well, well, yes, and you always wanted to participate. Like

1729
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:50,279
I think there was a time in my life as

1730
01:26:50,319 --> 01:26:53,319
an adult, maybe not that long ago, where I may

1731
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:56,600
may or may not have had a gummy and recounted

1732
01:26:57,279 --> 01:27:02,199
a dodgeball game from Jim when he used to be

1733
01:27:02,239 --> 01:27:06,479
able to really whip dodgeballs, and how it was me

1734
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:09,359
and this kid one year ahead of me. And I'm

1735
01:27:09,399 --> 01:27:12,079
telling this story until it sort of hit me and go,

1736
01:27:12,239 --> 01:27:16,880
oh my god, I'm trying to brag about a dodgeball

1737
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:20,760
game from thirty forty years ago. But yeah, like that

1738
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:23,960
was like my crowning achievement in school that day that

1739
01:27:24,239 --> 01:27:28,079
that year, tenth grade, Like I beat the eleventh grade class.

1740
01:27:28,359 --> 01:27:30,239
It was just me and this one other kid and

1741
01:27:30,399 --> 01:27:33,159
he I remember him being so confident that he was

1742
01:27:33,199 --> 01:27:34,880
going to get me, and he threw this ball. I

1743
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:36,920
caught it and he was out and I won.

1744
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:40,600
Speaker 4: Maasing where your mind will go.

1745
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:46,119
Speaker 1: Well, it's just stupid because like those games could become humiliating, yes, right,

1746
01:27:46,399 --> 01:27:48,760
And I'm not sure if we should do away with

1747
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:52,119
it or not if it's really but see, I'm I

1748
01:27:52,159 --> 01:27:55,800
don't I guess. I I hate to save the word

1749
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:58,159
abuse because it sounds like you were you know, but

1750
01:27:58,399 --> 01:28:01,079
you had so many people yelling at and saying things

1751
01:28:01,119 --> 01:28:04,119
that were like I'll tell you what, I speak a

1752
01:28:04,199 --> 01:28:06,600
certain way. At times. I think I've gotten a little

1753
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:09,319
better at it, but I can be very quick, and

1754
01:28:09,359 --> 01:28:11,239
I've been told I can be cold, I can be this.

1755
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:18,680
And I said something to Jamison about Jordan and the

1756
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:21,960
other day, like I probably the shower curtain thing, right,

1757
01:28:22,359 --> 01:28:24,880
And he says to me, he goes, you didn't say

1758
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:26,560
that that way to him because he could be a

1759
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:31,279
little nicer. And I'm like, Oh, that didn't happen in

1760
01:28:31,319 --> 01:28:33,960
the world I grew up in. No, it just was said,

1761
01:28:34,119 --> 01:28:38,479
and I didn't take it as anything. Yeah, it was

1762
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:40,960
just like that was it. And I don't know if

1763
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:44,399
I think we're better, but I don't know. I still

1764
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:46,079
talk the way I talk. I can't help it.

1765
01:28:46,279 --> 01:28:47,039
Speaker 8: So well.

1766
01:28:47,079 --> 01:28:49,680
Speaker 4: My father used to yell a lot, like a Jurassic

1767
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:50,840
Park I used to We used to joke there was

1768
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:52,119
like a Jurassic Park dinosaur.

1769
01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:54,199
Speaker 1: Okay, but I mean but he had a.

1770
01:28:54,239 --> 01:28:56,279
Speaker 4: Soft side too, Like when he was coaching, he did

1771
01:28:56,359 --> 01:28:58,520
not yell at the kids. He didn't like that at all.

1772
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:00,359
He would just yell at us because as we were

1773
01:29:00,399 --> 01:29:02,359
his kids and he wanted the best for us, and

1774
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:03,840
that's the only way he knew how to parent. But

1775
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:07,760
when he saw coaches act like Mike Ditko or Bob Knight,

1776
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:10,640
he wanted to strangle him because he didn't think at

1777
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:13,199
that age group that you should talk to kids like that.

1778
01:29:13,399 --> 01:29:15,880
You're trying to be constructive, you're not like winning.

1779
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:18,520
Speaker 1: Well, okay, so that's that's my point. And that's my

1780
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:21,479
point even with the gym clash, Like I don't know

1781
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:24,079
that Obama's idea was to take away the present but

1782
01:29:24,279 --> 01:29:28,720
more to go. You know, fat Bobby in the corner,

1783
01:29:29,119 --> 01:29:31,920
who can't climb the rope. We want him to not

1784
01:29:32,039 --> 01:29:34,680
be fat Bobby his entire life. We don't want to

1785
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:37,359
see him on diabetic medicine. Yeah, we don't want to

1786
01:29:37,359 --> 01:29:40,279
see him to pay for it slowly. You know, first

1787
01:29:40,319 --> 01:29:42,399
it's the big toe, then it's half the foot, and

1788
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:44,520
now it's up to his knee. We don't need that.

1789
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:47,600
If we could get Bobby, but have Bob. And I'm

1790
01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:50,239
not saying that this will change it, but maybe maybe

1791
01:29:50,319 --> 01:29:52,600
Bobby will go, Hey Bobby, you know you can really

1792
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:55,000
start to see self improvement. Hey man, I want you

1793
01:29:55,039 --> 01:29:58,319
to go out and run three laps machine. Next time,

1794
01:29:58,359 --> 01:30:01,359
we'll do four, next time we'll do And it's if

1795
01:30:01,399 --> 01:30:02,920
you could do that, and it's happens.

1796
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:04,399
Speaker 4: Trump trying to put this back into play. Is that

1797
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:06,000
is that the idea is No, this is.

1798
01:30:06,039 --> 01:30:09,000
Speaker 1: Ohio, the state Ohio is doing this, just the state

1799
01:30:09,039 --> 01:30:09,840
of all I'll tell you what.

1800
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:12,479
Speaker 4: It's the home of the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

1801
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:16,199
It's the home of maybe some of the best football players, yes,

1802
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:18,920
in America. And by the way, it's a northern state

1803
01:30:19,119 --> 01:30:21,520
where they can't play football year round like in the South,

1804
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:24,239
like California and Florida and all those states. Texas, they're

1805
01:30:24,239 --> 01:30:27,760
playing football year round, not like you know, like for scores,

1806
01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:29,960
but I mean like they're they're working on. Ohio man

1807
01:30:30,479 --> 01:30:33,920
is its own little identity. Football is their sport. And

1808
01:30:34,199 --> 01:30:35,960
I mean, I don't blame them for trying to do

1809
01:30:36,079 --> 01:30:39,560
this because we need to. We we our testosterone as

1810
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:41,279
a country has dropped through the floor.

1811
01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:43,720
Speaker 1: Well, it'd be good if you could just get out

1812
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:47,439
and exercise more. You know. There. We used to ride.

1813
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:50,359
I rode my bike everywhere as a kid, right, But

1814
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:53,800
I lived in a very rural area and that was

1815
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:55,479
the thing. I'd be on my bike and you were

1816
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:59,399
just gone, gone, god. And but I didn't live like

1817
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:02,840
in a suburban area where because my grandma is saying

1818
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:06,680
you need to put some meat on your bound I'm like, yeah,

1819
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:10,479
but I wasn't. I was wiry, and you run in

1820
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:13,119
and doing stuff and buying and doing, and I just

1821
01:31:13,199 --> 01:31:15,359
don't think that that's our lifestyle anymore. So, yeah, I

1822
01:31:15,399 --> 01:31:17,840
could climb the ropes and get to the rafter because

1823
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:19,680
I remember there was so much dust up there. I

1824
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:21,520
left my fingerprints and I was very proud of that.

1825
01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:22,079
Speaker 4: I'm still there.

1826
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:25,239
Speaker 1: It could be. I don't know, because I don't think

1827
01:31:25,279 --> 01:31:27,159
anbody's climbing the ropes anymore. I don't even know if

1828
01:31:27,159 --> 01:31:27,760
they have the rope.

1829
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:29,479
Speaker 4: So when I got the high school, theydn't even use

1830
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:31,600
the ropes. They even pulled the ropes down. They've been

1831
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:34,640
left up tied and they never moved them. Elementary school

1832
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:37,840
we did the ropes, but in high school now we're

1833
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:38,399
not even gonna do it.

1834
01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:42,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, but here's one I always told you this humiliation,

1835
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:44,640
and I will never forget it. I think we were

1836
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:47,239
in seventh or eighth grade and they were doing they

1837
01:31:47,279 --> 01:31:50,840
were doing the calipers for your uh fat body mask.

1838
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:57,800
And I remember the girl her family owned the ice

1839
01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:00,600
cream parlor were used to all go to after baseball

1840
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:03,880
games and stuff, and she got on the scale and

1841
01:32:04,159 --> 01:32:07,920
we had a gym teacher in Pine Plains, New York.

1842
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:10,159
If anybody remembers, I don't know if he's still alive

1843
01:32:10,239 --> 01:32:14,359
or not, mister Stevenson. Mister Stevenson was from Dallas, Texas.

1844
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:16,119
How he ended up in Pine Plaines, I don't know.

1845
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:18,800
I'm pretty sure what his wife was, but he had

1846
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:20,680
a bit of a Southern accent, and he would always say,

1847
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:23,439
you know, be things like maryan and he would yell

1848
01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:25,600
it out your weight. So we'd call it out to

1849
01:32:26,039 --> 01:32:28,920
the woman who I think was missus Kennedy who was

1850
01:32:29,079 --> 01:32:32,720
taking the she's writing it down, and I remember Danielle

1851
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:38,399
Campanella Campanella one fifty eight, and I think, oh god,

1852
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:41,279
and she was crying. Right, do you see what I'm saying?

1853
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:44,359
Like this is what when we talk about, like, wow,

1854
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:46,479
it's the pusification of America. We should put that back,

1855
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:49,439
should we? Because you just took a girl, but they

1856
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:51,039
gave her an eating disorders?

1857
01:32:51,359 --> 01:32:53,319
Speaker 4: Does it have to be nothing proposition.

1858
01:32:54,279 --> 01:32:57,199
Speaker 1: Yes, one hundred percent. Yes, there's gotta do it with

1859
01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:01,840
There's gotta be a middle ground one hundred percent, like

1860
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:04,159
we don't need the same harshness. But I mean, he

1861
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:06,960
he was the gym teacher that what They always had

1862
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:10,800
those nihil They were like, I don't even know, polyester shorts.

1863
01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:13,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, like the coaches shorts, the tights in the front.

1864
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:16,000
Speaker 1: And he was bull legged and he walked around with.

1865
01:33:16,079 --> 01:33:18,720
Speaker 4: The with the knee leg socks. Yeah, tube socks.

1866
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:20,439
Speaker 1: And he would walk around and he'd be like and

1867
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:23,319
he was like the girls softball coach and stuff.

1868
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:26,239
Speaker 4: He was it's stuffed their pants.

1869
01:33:26,159 --> 01:33:29,760
Speaker 1: Seems, man, get over here, stop playing grab ass over

1870
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:32,800
in the corner and get over here. Compression shorts, No,

1871
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:36,039
they weren't even compression shorts. They're the tight tight short. Yeah,

1872
01:33:36,039 --> 01:33:38,880
but they were tight. They looked like they were compressing something.

1873
01:33:39,119 --> 01:33:40,359
Speaker 4: Yeah. Uh yeah.

1874
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:42,520
Speaker 1: Grab Ass was always a term they use.

1875
01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1876
01:33:43,039 --> 01:33:45,680
Speaker 1: Right, you can do cry over a hangnail. Yeah, I

1877
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:46,840
used to get that all the time.

1878
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:48,439
Speaker 4: I come back in two thirty two. You could play

1879
01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:48,920
grab ass.

1880
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:51,239
Speaker 1: Then I don't want to hear about your hangnails. I

1881
01:33:51,279 --> 01:33:53,640
didn't even know what a fucking hangnail was. Yeah, like,

1882
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:58,720
what's the hangnail? Sounds painful? Right, yes? And these were

1883
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:01,279
that was all the ship. But I will I am

1884
01:34:01,399 --> 01:34:04,279
now fifty three years old, and I remember, and I'm

1885
01:34:04,319 --> 01:34:07,319
going to say her name and I'm maybe it's humiliating.

1886
01:34:07,359 --> 01:34:10,279
Maybe someone will tell me Danielle Campanella. I don't know

1887
01:34:10,319 --> 01:34:14,840
where Danielle Campanella is on the planet anymore. Watchers her family.

1888
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:18,159
Her family had Campies ice cream.

1889
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:20,359
Speaker 4: You had a Campies ice cream.

1890
01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:23,880
Speaker 1: They were Campanella's. They were Campies. So they owned it.

1891
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:25,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, Duck or Newark they have a Campy's ice cream

1892
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:26,920
and Campy's pizza.

1893
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:30,600
Speaker 1: And so Campies was Campanella. And we used to go

1894
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:33,239
there after or after games and stuff, and we could

1895
01:34:33,239 --> 01:34:36,399
get ice cream. And Danielle's family owned it, and she

1896
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:39,199
liked ice cream. I didn't even think of her as fat.

1897
01:34:40,159 --> 01:34:42,640
I didn't she was taller. She was tall. She was

1898
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:45,000
probably I mean we were seventh or eight, seventh or

1899
01:34:45,039 --> 01:34:47,479
eighth grade, boned, about one hundred and fifty eight pounds,

1900
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:52,239
pretty good size at that age, but very bone. And

1901
01:34:52,359 --> 01:34:55,960
by the way, the guy had fucking daughters himself, like

1902
01:34:56,079 --> 01:34:58,840
you go, where are your brains? Yells it out across

1903
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:01,840
the gym. Camp Ella one fifty eight.

1904
01:35:02,159 --> 01:35:05,800
Speaker 4: At what point did we as men in America get

1905
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:09,079
in touch with our feelings? I don't care about this stuff. Well,

1906
01:35:09,239 --> 01:35:11,640
it had to be like maybe Tony soprano going to

1907
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:12,079
the shrink.

1908
01:35:12,319 --> 01:35:15,479
Speaker 1: No, I I hear what you're saying. I mean that

1909
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:19,039
was a turning point. People say a lot culturally, but

1910
01:35:19,199 --> 01:35:24,640
I I wonder if if it wasn't. Well, I don't

1911
01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:25,159
know because I.

1912
01:35:25,359 --> 01:35:27,319
Speaker 4: Was a Clinton in the in the in the women

1913
01:35:27,399 --> 01:35:28,840
that came forward, I think it.

1914
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:31,840
Speaker 1: Was somewhere along the line some woman went, you're beating

1915
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:36,760
an asshole. Stop. Oh, it was Clarence Thomas with the coke.

1916
01:35:37,319 --> 01:35:41,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, because like sexual harassment or harassment, yeah, was a

1917
01:35:41,399 --> 01:35:43,279
term that we never heard before. And all of a sudden,

1918
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:49,720
Anita Anita Hill testified that that Clarence Thomas left a

1919
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:51,039
pubic hair on her coke.

1920
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:53,720
Speaker 1: He or she left? Who left? He let?

1921
01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:57,239
Speaker 4: Yeah? Who left this pubic hair my coke? He asked her.

1922
01:35:57,439 --> 01:35:58,279
Speaker 1: That was the question.

1923
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 4: That was the It was nineteen ninety one. I remember

1924
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:06,920
this because the Cowboys and the Redskins were gonna play

1925
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:09,800
that weekend, and it was a Friday when they had

1926
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:12,359
the hearing, and like November of ninety one. That's how

1927
01:36:12,399 --> 01:36:15,359
I remember stuff because of sports and everything. Well, anyway,

1928
01:36:16,399 --> 01:36:18,439
I don't know, and we'll then Fresh Prints made a

1929
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:20,520
joke about it afterward.

1930
01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:25,000
Speaker 1: I think everybody when you had I think there were

1931
01:36:25,399 --> 01:36:29,479
people who were just a little more i'm gonna say

1932
01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:34,880
emotionally intelligent. That kind of went, well, this made me

1933
01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:36,399
feel like shit, So why am I going to make

1934
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:38,720
you feel like shit? We used to point it out,

1935
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:41,520
but then things sometimes go too far.

1936
01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:43,800
Speaker 4: The other way, and may those after school specials in

1937
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:47,520
the eyes, maybe those like those John Hughes films like

1938
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:48,399
The Breakfast Club.

1939
01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:51,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Breakfast Club is great. It is. I sat

1940
01:36:51,319 --> 01:36:53,880
down and watched it again on the AMC a little

1941
01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:56,039
pieces of it that were running, and my boy, that

1942
01:36:56,199 --> 01:36:59,800
was a really great because it broke down the stereotypes. Yes,

1943
01:37:00,119 --> 01:37:03,079
the point where we're all one was kind of the thing.

1944
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:06,720
And when Ali sheety goes on about how she's an

1945
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:10,600
informaniac and she even banged her shrink and like, and

1946
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:14,520
you're and you're watching what's your name? Get all uncomfortable? Yeah,

1947
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:17,680
all uncomfortable in it. It was Molly Ringwall. It was

1948
01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:21,039
Molly Ringwald. It's getting all uncomfortable and she's like, I'm

1949
01:37:21,079 --> 01:37:23,159
not an informaniac. I'm not that at all. I just

1950
01:37:23,239 --> 01:37:25,359
made it all up because it got me attention. And

1951
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:28,640
you realize that everybody was going through the same thing,

1952
01:37:29,119 --> 01:37:33,359
or like I was gonna say, sheen, but that wasn't

1953
01:37:33,479 --> 01:37:39,960
huge as Yeah, he saysh and he goes, you know,

1954
01:37:40,319 --> 01:37:43,840
I gave somebody a wedgie so badly, or I duct

1955
01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:45,520
taped them to the bench, or maybe that was me

1956
01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:47,640
the duck taped somebody to the bench in the locker room.

1957
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:51,680
But there, Yeah, but you got to see everybody was

1958
01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:54,840
one and I and maybe that is maybe those were

1959
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:58,079
the points where we went. Oh, because as I was

1960
01:37:58,079 --> 01:37:59,640
thinking about it, I go, well, hang on a second.

1961
01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:06,319
My parents generation, my parents were of Vietnam War. It

1962
01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:09,000
was cold and ugly. It was a cold and ugly thing.

1963
01:38:09,359 --> 01:38:11,600
And even there we started to see people were dying

1964
01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:14,039
for no reason. People started speaking out going what the

1965
01:38:14,079 --> 01:38:16,159
fuck are we doing over there? Why are we there?

1966
01:38:16,439 --> 01:38:19,319
What is the point to stop the spread of communism? Well,

1967
01:38:19,399 --> 01:38:21,119
why are we doing this? We tried to get the

1968
01:38:21,159 --> 01:38:23,800
French to do it. They failed, and then we decided

1969
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:24,439
we had to go in.

1970
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:28,199
Speaker 4: Yeah for what DuPont? Yeah, so that's why.

1971
01:38:28,399 --> 01:38:30,600
Speaker 1: But but the thing was that I think then people

1972
01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:31,439
started to say.

1973
01:38:31,239 --> 01:38:33,960
Speaker 4: They started waking up. Yeah, when when Walter Kronkite's flying

1974
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:34,960
in over it, when the helicopter.

1975
01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:36,279
Speaker 1: Our government lied to us.

1976
01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:40,359
Speaker 4: Then people are like, what, yeah, our government, Yeah, the

1977
01:38:40,439 --> 01:38:42,680
same one that killed our president a few years ago. No,

1978
01:38:44,359 --> 01:38:48,239
and then people started paying attention. It's been a gradual shift.

1979
01:38:48,319 --> 01:38:53,640
I believe that we've learned a lot about ourselves, like significantly,

1980
01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:56,279
like eons in the last fifty years that we did

1981
01:38:56,319 --> 01:39:00,800
in the previous Oh yeah, oh gosh yeah before christ Probably,

1982
01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:03,880
I really think that probably now they I who knows

1983
01:39:03,920 --> 01:39:06,840
what's he's going to aerate, So.

1984
01:39:07,239 --> 01:39:10,479
Speaker 1: All right, we'll wrap it up. Then. It's always fun.

1985
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:12,399
We always get off on these tangents.

1986
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:16,399
Speaker 4: That's why I'm here. Tangent Dan No, I like it.

1987
01:39:16,479 --> 01:39:18,520
Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's thinking and I know I

1988
01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:19,720
can bring these things up. We'll go.

1989
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:21,720
Speaker 4: So, can you say one thing real quick? No, Stitch

1990
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:23,640
Metcalf ship, I'm sorry, do you want to go?

1991
01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:23,960
Speaker 5: No?

1992
01:39:26,119 --> 01:39:29,479
Speaker 4: So, I I didn't get to watch Scott Metcalf play

1993
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:31,479
hockey for the Amorks. I I I didn't grow up

1994
01:39:31,479 --> 01:39:33,960
around here. I do remember when he played for the Sabers. Briefly.

1995
01:39:34,359 --> 01:39:36,239
I got to meet him with the late Tony d

1996
01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:39,239
when I was doing sports trivia back when I was

1997
01:39:39,359 --> 01:39:41,760
my first radio career at w H a m at

1998
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:43,920
a bar and he was for I didn't know that

1999
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:45,800
he was a hockey player. He was just a dude

2000
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:48,720
from who sold for La Bat and he and Tony goes,

2001
01:39:49,079 --> 01:39:51,680
you know, we start telling stories and I go, wait

2002
01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:54,720
a minute, did you play hockey? He goes, yeah, I

2003
01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:56,840
don't have to talk about it, and Tony goes, bro

2004
01:39:57,199 --> 01:39:59,600
tell him. He goes, used to play for the Amborks.

2005
01:40:00,279 --> 01:40:02,640
Get out here, really And then I put two and

2006
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:05,199
two together realized who he was. He And the thing

2007
01:40:05,239 --> 01:40:07,840
about Scott Metcalf, he never talked about his hockey career

2008
01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:12,560
ever ever, Like toes, there's a story about how he's

2009
01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:17,079
walking down the tunnel at Blue Cross Arena and his

2010
01:40:17,159 --> 01:40:19,199
little boy was with him at the time, and people

2011
01:40:19,239 --> 01:40:21,399
are going, that's got Metcalf, that's got Metcalf, and his

2012
01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:23,800
little son goes, he dad, how do they know? Your

2013
01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:24,279
name was? Oh?

2014
01:40:24,279 --> 01:40:25,479
Speaker 1: I used to play hockey in this town.

2015
01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:28,079
Speaker 4: And that's all he told him. He never bragged about

2016
01:40:28,119 --> 01:40:31,000
his career ever, never talked about unless there people were

2017
01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:32,880
like egging amount to tell stories, but he never. He

2018
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:34,920
was very humble and he never talked about it.

2019
01:40:35,199 --> 01:40:35,399
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2020
01:40:35,399 --> 01:40:37,279
Speaker 4: I just thought that was awesome.

2021
01:40:37,359 --> 01:40:40,319
Speaker 1: I loved hanging out with better and he was a

2022
01:40:40,359 --> 01:40:41,920
lot of funny. He was fun to have on the radio.

2023
01:40:42,079 --> 01:40:46,239
He had a huge personality. Somewhere, I have lost tapes

2024
01:40:46,319 --> 01:40:50,760
of metcalf on different radio shows. Probably moved in a

2025
01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:55,960
box this past weekend. Yeah, no, I enjoyed all that.

2026
01:40:56,079 --> 01:40:59,079
I was around for the Calder Cup when they won.

2027
01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:01,920
It was nice six he was on that team. I

2028
01:41:02,039 --> 01:41:05,520
remember the party after party after party. That was when

2029
01:41:07,359 --> 01:41:09,159
I was on the radio and they were playing a

2030
01:41:09,199 --> 01:41:13,520
team called the Pirates. And I had Kevin dressed up

2031
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:15,279
as a pirate, and I got a tow truck to

2032
01:41:15,359 --> 01:41:19,199
come down and we suspended Kevin. He and we made

2033
01:41:19,239 --> 01:41:21,920
him a human pinana. He had to beat a CD

2034
01:41:22,119 --> 01:41:24,960
off him. Like they were taped. They were taped to

2035
01:41:25,079 --> 01:41:27,640
his uh his pants or something. Yeah, they were like

2036
01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:28,399
taped all.

2037
01:41:31,119 --> 01:41:33,159
Speaker 4: Kevin the Pirates, Kevin the Pirate.

2038
01:41:34,079 --> 01:41:36,319
Speaker 1: Yeah no, yeah, But the thing.

2039
01:41:36,199 --> 01:41:38,359
Speaker 4: About it, we're talking about like your brother earlier and

2040
01:41:38,439 --> 01:41:41,359
like in like going out experiencing life. He reached the height.

2041
01:41:41,439 --> 01:41:43,600
He played in the NHL briefly for the Sabers. He

2042
01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:48,840
reached the height of of anybody's dreams. He played professional

2043
01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:51,399
hockey at the highest level and he never talked about it.

2044
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:55,880
Speaker 1: We had a uh he never bragged nothing. Coached youth

2045
01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:59,239
hockey too. When we talked to coach Fisher earlier this week,

2046
01:42:00,359 --> 01:42:07,239
who he was his assistant, not coach Fisher wasn't Metcalf's assistant. Metcalf,

2047
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:10,680
who played professional hockey, was his assistant. And he goes,

2048
01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:13,159
it was great. He's like, he, I said, that would

2049
01:42:13,159 --> 01:42:15,279
be intimidating to me, and he goes, yeah, it would be,

2050
01:42:15,560 --> 01:42:17,880
he goes, But Meta was like, man, that's not what

2051
01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:19,439
I want to do. And he just wanted to be

2052
01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:21,319
around his kids and show him the love of the

2053
01:42:21,359 --> 01:42:23,760
game that he loved, and that's what he did. And

2054
01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:27,760
Scott Metcalf was a huge personality, a lot of fun,

2055
01:42:28,039 --> 01:42:32,600
loved to party, you know, and uh it was, and

2056
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:35,880
a big family guy like you know, because I remember

2057
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:38,600
we were talking about our kids and different things. I

2058
01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:40,800
hadn't seen him in two years, two or three years,

2059
01:42:41,119 --> 01:42:44,000
so very sad, and it sounds like it was sudden.

2060
01:42:44,079 --> 01:42:46,520
I only saw a post on his page by his son,

2061
01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:47,159
so I don't know.

2062
01:42:47,319 --> 01:42:48,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just found out about it this week, So.

2063
01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:51,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was last Friday, was a week go Friday.

2064
01:42:51,640 --> 01:42:52,960
He just broke on the news.

2065
01:42:53,039 --> 01:42:55,600
Speaker 4: The humility that he had, you know, I think that's awesome.

2066
01:42:55,840 --> 01:43:01,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just always saw him as a I said

2067
01:43:01,960 --> 01:43:06,399
this the other night, so I'm repeating myself. All we

2068
01:43:06,640 --> 01:43:10,640
have all our memories and things are based on feelings,

2069
01:43:11,359 --> 01:43:16,079
and you remember how a person made you feel. And

2070
01:43:16,760 --> 01:43:21,800
he always made you feel like I mean, I said, well,

2071
01:43:22,079 --> 01:43:24,159
like you were the only person in the room that

2072
01:43:24,239 --> 01:43:26,840
he was talking to. And he had just a huge

2073
01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:31,239
personality and was just a fun guy and I mean

2074
01:43:31,479 --> 01:43:34,640
played hard, was a brawler with getting fights to do

2075
01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:38,920
all this stuff, you know, big part of that ninety

2076
01:43:38,920 --> 01:43:42,960
six Calder Cup team, and uh yeah, but made you

2077
01:43:43,079 --> 01:43:45,960
feel good. You knew when Meta was around it was exciting,

2078
01:43:46,039 --> 01:43:47,720
Like when he was coming on a show, it was

2079
01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:49,560
gonna be a good show, you know what I mean.

2080
01:43:49,680 --> 01:43:52,319
It just was azz and she kind of knew that.

2081
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:54,640
And it was how he made you feel. And I

2082
01:43:55,000 --> 01:43:58,640
often think that's you know, when you're no longer here,

2083
01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:00,720
when people think of you, all the thinking about is

2084
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:03,880
how you made them feel. No one's gonna say it

2085
01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:07,119
that way, but that's really what it is. And you know,

2086
01:44:07,199 --> 01:44:10,399
why do we like certain songs, what Brian Wilson's songs.

2087
01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:12,960
It reminds us of a time in our life and

2088
01:44:13,119 --> 01:44:16,239
how we felt. Right, that's what it is. And I

2089
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think that when you're when you look at that, you know,

2090
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Scott Metcalf was was great at making you feel.

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Speaker 4: Good, yeah, and having fun. Like when I finally figured

2092
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love that who he was.

2093
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Speaker 1: I love that that Canadian accent.

2094
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah. We were watching a Sabers game once in

2095
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one of those nights and he's pointing and I'm a

2096
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:33,520
big hockey guy and he's pointing to the to Ryan

2097
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:35,119
Miller on the screen and he goes, you know what

2098
01:44:35,199 --> 01:44:38,039
his problem is. I go, No, his blocker side. There's

2099
01:44:38,079 --> 01:44:39,920
a hole there. He's gonna let up goals. He's got

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to close that blocker side. Like he's like educating me,

2101
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and like it was just just a good dude.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very good and very interesting guy and a whole

2103
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lot of fun. For Dan Brillo, Physical Fitness Champion of

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dun S.

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Speaker 4: That's the opposite of a champion, belief.

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01:44:59,359 --> 01:45:04,199
Speaker 1: B only ran for president of this class because his

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dad made him. That's awesome. I Bill Moran will see

2108
01:45:07,760 --> 01:45:10,800
you tomorrow. Hotel didn't know what to do.

2109
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Speaker 4: I turn a TV on to rule.

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Speaker 1: A letter to you and you stop in by the

2111
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dagnant upon the unter state see. They were looking for

2112
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a kind of light with Tenni see.

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Speaker 5: Please