Speaker 1: Not five miles an hour riding to his head. You
Speaker 1: hop it down first with the lump bonius face, and
Speaker 1: on the very next pitch he up and stole second face.
Speaker 2: With gretest speed. He wasn't born, he had yes uniforn.
Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Prospect B Sides Podcast. I'm Nate
Speaker 3: Handy joining me as always is. He's still going by
Speaker 3: the rook even though he's kicking off his sophomore season
Speaker 3: here as champion.
Speaker 4: I'll add of our of our Prospect B Side Draft.
Speaker 4: What's up, Nate? How's it going? I'm I'm forever the
Speaker 4: rook in this so need to need to break anything
Speaker 4: that's not broken, right, it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm kind of banking on a little sophomore slump
Speaker 3: from you this year. I might need it to.
Speaker 4: Overtake you know that that's not a real thing.
Speaker 3: I don't want to hurt your feelings or embarrass you
Speaker 3: or anything like that. But I got to say, after
Speaker 3: our like last like wrap up show, our fan mail
Speaker 3: bag just got loaded with comments in different I don't
Speaker 3: how do I say suggestions? Wondering if maybe there's a
Speaker 3: little asterisk next to your title last year.
Speaker 4: Oh interesting. Yeah, I don't tell me. Why what? What
Speaker 4: did I do wrong?
Speaker 3: I mean, I can't I can't speak for the people.
Speaker 3: I can't say that I agree with the flooding. But
Speaker 3: I think it was like stuff along the lines of,
Speaker 3: you know, level of difficulty. Maybe, I don't know. I
Speaker 3: don't know. I thought you did I thought you did great.
Speaker 3: I thought it was fantastic. I learned a lot from
Speaker 3: you last year and picked out some dangers. So those
Speaker 3: are my words.
Speaker 4: Those are not your words. But some unnamed fan of
Speaker 4: the show. You know, we do have so many so
Speaker 4: it's hard to hard to know. Yeah that that tracks.
Speaker 3: It was vocal.
Speaker 4: Damn it vocal. I thought you were on my side.
Speaker 3: But anyway, we're officially into the off season now. The
Speaker 3: Dodgers just won the World Series Game five that just
Speaker 3: ended literally minutes ago, and so we're getting into our
Speaker 3: off season episodes where Matt and I have perused all
Speaker 3: of the mud and all of the unpopular and unwonted
Speaker 3: prospects of every organization and picked out a hitter and
Speaker 3: a pitcher that we are going to I don't know,
Speaker 3: keep an eye on, wondering if maybe they're due for
Speaker 3: a rise in popularity. Two. I don't know, Matt. I
Speaker 3: think like this World Series, the Dodgers were so much
Speaker 3: better at the little things than the Yankees, and that
Speaker 3: made all the difference, right. And sure, the guys that
Speaker 3: we talk about probably aren't going to be any foundational
Speaker 3: piece of your dynasty squads, your thirty teamers, your only leagues,
Speaker 3: but it is the margins and maybe you can win
Speaker 3: on some of these margins and turn not much into something.
Speaker 3: And so we've spent a lot of time months doing
Speaker 3: our dives here, doing our digs video numbers, and we're
Speaker 3: going to start sharing and a series of episodes will
Speaker 3: go division by division and share our picture here selections
Speaker 3: for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's a good segue. You know, the season
Speaker 4: just ended and now our real B siding season begins.
Speaker 4: But the Dodgers are a good case study in getting
Speaker 4: the most out of their entire roster. They don't waste
Speaker 4: any of their roster spots, and they're pitching injuries this
Speaker 4: year showed that they had to go deep. Like who
Speaker 4: was on Ben Casparius coming into this year? You know
Speaker 4: the Dodgers, Wow, such great pitching prospects. Land and Knack
Speaker 4: and Gavin Stone and River Ryan, all these guys that
Speaker 4: people loved is pitching prospects, Like none of those guys
Speaker 4: did anything. I mean, Knack through some important innings, I guess,
Speaker 4: but Ben Casparius is the one that started Game four. Sure,
Speaker 4: that's the game that the Yankees won, but I still
Speaker 4: think that that's indicative of you never know where those
Speaker 4: important innings are going to come from. Guys like Ben Casparius.
Speaker 4: Those are our B siders that do that kind of contribution.
Speaker 4: We're not here unearthing any sho Heo Tanis. Although he
Speaker 4: didn't have the best World Series, maybe we're gonna find
Speaker 4: and highlight some Freddy Freeman's. You know, he was a
Speaker 4: well regarded prospect, but nobody pegged him as a Hall
Speaker 4: of Famer even when he came up. I think he
Speaker 4: was overshadowed by Jason Hayward, and even years into his
Speaker 4: steady Freddy contributions, folks are still underrating him and he's
Speaker 4: now World Series MVP.
Speaker 3: So our last show of last season talked about how
Speaker 3: maybe we weren't so I'm happy with some of our
Speaker 3: bat picks, and how maybe we felt we could have
Speaker 3: done better there but you know, the AFL season's going on,
Speaker 3: and now some of those guys who didn't gain a
Speaker 3: bunch of popularity this summer are starting to get noticed
Speaker 3: a little bit in the AFL. So never know, maybe
Speaker 3: it won't be next year, maybe it'd be a couple
Speaker 3: of years, maybe it will be never. But nonetheless, some
Speaker 3: guys that I have found interesting. I was actually pretty pleased, Matt.
Speaker 3: I was a little nervous doing this dig this year
Speaker 3: because of the way the minor league season went and
Speaker 3: how the opinion is about prospects these days. But I
Speaker 3: was pretty pleased. I found some guys I'm kind of
Speaker 3: excited about to see the future here.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm glad you're excited. I go into this exercise
Speaker 4: the last couple of years like really not knowing what
Speaker 4: to think. You know, I follow the minor leagues pretty closely,
Speaker 4: but I also, you know, have kids and like a
Speaker 4: busy at work, and so I feel like I didn't
Speaker 4: have as much time to keep up during the season,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, with the goings on and
Speaker 4: watch as many games and have guys pop up to
Speaker 4: me that way. So I don't know, this year, I
Speaker 4: felt like I maybe was on the back foot a
Speaker 4: bit with my selections, and Nate's already coming in feeling
Speaker 4: confident He's got all his guys. He's like, he's going
Speaker 4: to crush me. I'm nervous, everybody, I'm nervous. I don't
Speaker 4: know if I'm going to be able to live up
Speaker 4: to my dominating performance of last year.
Speaker 3: Dominating. You pushed me like I didn't like. I didn't
Speaker 3: like the way things ended. I can unequivocally say this
Speaker 3: is the most extensive, deciding selection process I've ever put
Speaker 3: myself through.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm glad to make you step your game up.
Speaker 4: At least hopefully our twelve listeners can benefit from your research.
Speaker 4: And I, as usual, am half assing it and just
Speaker 4: doing my work the night before. So I hope everyone's
Speaker 4: ready for that.
Speaker 3: So we're gonna start with the NL East and I
Speaker 3: think we're going to start with the pitchers.
Speaker 4: That sounds right to me.
Speaker 3: Well, who you got what you're thinking? I'm super anxious
Speaker 3: as always when we do these, to see who you're
Speaker 3: going to throw out there.
Speaker 4: My Braves didn't win the World Series this year. They
Speaker 4: had a super disappointing campaign. From the fact that they're like,
Speaker 4: I don't know eight of their best twelve players missed
Speaker 4: significant chunks of the year, including arguably their two best players.
Speaker 4: So let's start with the Braves. The offseason begins anew.
Speaker 4: They're going to be a dominant force again next year
Speaker 4: when everyone's healthy, and I could see this B side
Speaker 4: arm making some starts for them next year. He is
Speaker 4: a guy that we did mention this last year. He
Speaker 4: wasn't my B side pick, but I liked him coming
Speaker 4: out of the twenty twenty three draft as a guy
Speaker 4: who hit the ground running and just performed right away.
Speaker 4: And if you'll remember Nate, that was Lucas Braun. When
Speaker 4: I looked, he was zero percent. And again, some of
Speaker 4: my roster percentages might end up being a little different
Speaker 4: to Nate's because when I pulled it down, all of
Speaker 4: the data Fantracks had done their update and so there
Speaker 4: was a bunch of wonky numbers, and so I've basically
Speaker 4: only got guys that are zero percenters in my list,
Speaker 4: but I know some of them are going to be well.
Speaker 3: I can say I checked twice on him on September
Speaker 3: second and September twenty second, and he was two percent owned.
Speaker 4: Two percent. Yeah, that sounds a little more like it
Speaker 4: to me, But when I was pulling the list in
Speaker 4: early October, I guess it was he was zero percent
Speaker 4: and even at two percent, like, I think this is
Speaker 4: a great buy for me. Lucas Braun. He made it
Speaker 4: up to double a this year, and a lot of
Speaker 4: the things that I liked about his kind of pro
Speaker 4: debut performance from last year killed true this year. He
Speaker 4: walks guys at a better than average clip. He strikes
Speaker 4: out twenty seven ish percent of batters. He had over
Speaker 4: twenty percent K minus BB when you combined his levels
Speaker 4: this year. He threw a lot of innings, which is
Speaker 4: low key one of my favorite things about him. Through
Speaker 4: one hundred and forty three innings, like against twenty four
Speaker 4: games started. That's a starter's workload. Like that's something that
Speaker 4: you can look at and say, if the Braves have
Speaker 4: a couple of injuries Morton retires, say god forbid Chris
Speaker 4: Sale and Strider I missed some significant time last year,
Speaker 4: the Braves are really going to need some pitching. Max
Speaker 4: Fried's going to walk. He's almost certainly not going to
Speaker 4: resign with the Braves. There's going to be some innings
Speaker 4: to be had in that starting rotation and no offense
Speaker 4: to a J. Smith Shaver and Herson Waldrip, but I
Speaker 4: think Lucas Braun looks more likely as a guy who
Speaker 4: can just step right in and take some innings. So
Speaker 4: Braun for me, is really well rounded in his arsenal.
Speaker 4: He's got solid command. It's not just strike throwing control,
Speaker 4: although he does that well, and I think that he
Speaker 4: executes his off speed pitches exceptionally well. It's one of
Speaker 4: my favorite things about him in that he kind of
Speaker 4: reminds me a little bit of a former B sider
Speaker 4: of yours, elder Bryce Elder. You really see out of
Speaker 4: his hand like the slider, the curve, the change. He
Speaker 4: could throw any of them at any given time, and
Speaker 4: he commands them all pretty well to the different parts
Speaker 4: of the bottom of the zone, which I really really
Speaker 4: liked in my looks. So Lucas Brown for me, he
Speaker 4: was a name to follow out of the draft for
Speaker 4: me last year, and I'm making it my Braves B
Speaker 4: side arm this year.
Speaker 3: Nice. I kind of figured that you were going to
Speaker 3: go with Braun, so I'd like totally skipped him on
Speaker 3: my homework, So thank you for saving me some time there. Nice. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the Braves. I mean there, they have a lot of
Speaker 3: popular arms. I'd say to find a B sider you
Speaker 3: kind of got to go pretty deep. You mentioned Smith, Shover,
Speaker 3: the waldrop O, Murphy Hackenberg, Richie Laura Cueler, Camanitty, even Fines,
Speaker 3: Garrett Bauman, Adam Mayer. Those guys are all two percent
Speaker 3: or above. Admittedly not my favorite guy that I'm going
Speaker 3: to talk about this offseason. Probably in the bottom third
Speaker 3: of B side arms for me. But I'm gonna go
Speaker 3: with young Davis Polo. I don't know if you've watched
Speaker 3: him at all. Polo is nineteen during the season. I
Speaker 3: think he might may have turned twenty now, righty six
Speaker 3: to one listed six to one anyways, from Colombia. He
Speaker 3: threw fifteen games twelve starts at Augusta this year. Maybe know,
Speaker 3: not crazy good surface numbers. I don't think I struck
Speaker 3: out twenty and a half percent, walked five percent, just decent.
Speaker 3: But what I liked about him, he's a little bit
Speaker 3: of a I think maybe a Budding like kind of
Speaker 3: spin spin guy. He throws his slider a lot. I
Speaker 3: don't know, I don't know necessarily how great that would
Speaker 3: grade out on stuff. Plus metrics and things like that.
Speaker 3: No idea probably can't pitch the way that he does
Speaker 3: when he moves ahead here moves up. I mean he's
Speaker 3: liable to throw his slider just like six seven times
Speaker 3: in a row. T but it works at the A
Speaker 3: ball level because he probably sits about ninety two ninety three,
Speaker 3: I'm guessing something like that. I don't think it's a
Speaker 3: totally dud ninety two or ninety three. I think he
Speaker 3: mixes in a little bit of a change up too.
Speaker 3: But a young guy who's getting an opportunity in the
Speaker 3: brave Zord, you know, having some success. Yeah, I figured
Speaker 3: i'd take it, give it a watch and see how
Speaker 3: he may or may not progress here solid.
Speaker 4: I don't recall watching much of what would you say?
Speaker 4: His name is Yolo?
Speaker 3: Davis Polo?
Speaker 4: Yolo a bad joke there, but Davis Polo. I watched
Speaker 4: a little bit of a video and you shared your
Speaker 4: video as well, And I see what you mean about
Speaker 4: the slider first nature, And even if things maybe don't
Speaker 4: all come together for him to stick as a starter,
Speaker 4: there's some interesting reliever potential there. Like just the way
Speaker 4: it looks it almost it actually reminds me a little
Speaker 4: bit delivery wise of Ryseolo glcias obviously stuff wise and
Speaker 4: repertoire wise, it's a little bit different. But the kind
Speaker 4: of the Whippi way that he comes at you, the
Speaker 4: arm angle and then the good slider, I think those
Speaker 4: are all traits that he shares with Iglesias.
Speaker 3: A guy this young at this level, I don't know,
Speaker 3: you know, and difference between inconsistencies in breaking ball shape
Speaker 3: or if there's any intention behind some of it. But
Speaker 3: he does seem to throw a couple different shapes from
Speaker 3: time to time. But yeah, I don't know. I thought
Speaker 3: you could do a lot worse than Davis Polo here
Speaker 3: for the Braves.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and as far as the high prout names go.
Speaker 4: Just while we're hearing the Braves, who do you got
Speaker 4: in that at the top of this system? Because I
Speaker 4: think there's a big four in this Brave system at
Speaker 4: the top, and I'm curious where you're riding.
Speaker 3: I am a big jare Richie hopeful.
Speaker 4: I thought that's what you were going to say.
Speaker 3: I mean, at least the glimpses that we've gotten of
Speaker 3: his whole arsenal and his ability to use it and
Speaker 3: execute it. I know he's coming back from injury this
Speaker 3: year probably wasn't quite as good as I was hoping overall,
Speaker 3: but again, I'll maybe give him a little bit of
Speaker 3: a mulligan as he was coming back from injury. But
Speaker 3: long term, if there was a guy that I like
Speaker 3: had to marry and stick with, I'd go with Ritchie
Speaker 3: m m Okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't think that. I think he would
Speaker 4: be my second choice, I'll say that, and I'm super
Speaker 4: interested to see what he's going to do another year
Speaker 4: removed from injury next year. So he's one that I
Speaker 4: can't wait to see more of. For me, it's Murphy
Speaker 4: Owen Murphy. I think he's my favorite of the arms
Speaker 4: in that system. Will drip. I was excited about coming
Speaker 4: out of last year's draft, but I think the command
Speaker 4: concerns remain and the Braves just haven't magically fixed that.
Speaker 4: But maybe maybe that takes another small step forward. But
Speaker 4: he worries me in that from a reference. And then
Speaker 4: with Smith Shov like, he seems like he's got one
Speaker 4: good pitch and if that pitch isn't on in his fastball, like,
Speaker 4: if it's not U upper nineties, it seems like he
Speaker 4: gets hit and he doesn't have good command of the
Speaker 4: other pitches. So I'm nervous about either of those two
Speaker 4: kind of big horses working out. But Murphy, Murphy and Richie,
Speaker 4: to me, both I think have ye a lot.
Speaker 3: Oh, I kind of forgot about Murphy. I'd maybe go
Speaker 3: Murphy over.
Speaker 4: Richie again injured, so we'll see how he comes back.
Speaker 4: But he was absolutely electric in his opening to this year,
Speaker 4: and I was, I was pretty smitten.
Speaker 3: But I will say that I probably value both those
Speaker 3: guys pretty closely.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm, yeah, yeah, And I think they're they're in
Speaker 4: a tier.
Speaker 3: I'll drop on Twitter at pitching specs videos of my
Speaker 3: selections here. I took some time and cut some of
Speaker 3: those up to just add a little supplement to the
Speaker 3: show here, all right, Miami Marlins. So you know they're
Speaker 3: they're pretty boys. They're more popular looking at like Robbie Snelling,
Speaker 3: Noble Meyer, Thomas White Maser, wusuck Go is rostered at
Speaker 3: eleven percent, tax Fulton still like seven percent, Monte Verdes
Speaker 3: four percent, Jacob Miller mill Brandt were both in at
Speaker 3: two percent. But I got a guy that I like
Speaker 3: a lot, a lot more than most of those arms.
Speaker 3: And I'm going with young kinder Benitez. I don't know
Speaker 3: if you've watched him at all, Matt.
Speaker 4: I haven't.
Speaker 3: But at the same time Eliezer, dish May and Benitez
Speaker 3: both got called up to a ball about the same time,
Speaker 3: and I dish May was kind of a buzzy name,
Speaker 3: but I was finding myself a little bit more smitten
Speaker 3: with Benitez here. And I know Clegg too just recently
Speaker 3: is touting him a little bit. But we're talking about
Speaker 3: another teenager. I think he was what eighteen this season. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he got in thirteen games at a ball. He threw
Speaker 3: fifty seven and two thirds innings there to a three
Speaker 3: point one two ERA one point two whip. He struck
Speaker 3: out twenty four point four percent, walked almost eleven percent.
Speaker 3: You know, lots of decent video of him being down
Speaker 3: in the newly like well covered Florida State League. I
Speaker 3: don't know if there's anything like super loud in the arsenal.
Speaker 3: He's a lefty. He probably throws I don't know, ninety
Speaker 3: three ish, but he's got like the full kit. There's
Speaker 3: a slider, there's a curveball, there's a change up. If
Speaker 3: Clegg was was has been touting him a little bit.
Speaker 3: I imagine there's probably something underneath the hood that he's into.
Speaker 3: But I just think that this is potentially a really solid,
Speaker 3: like some of all parts, very young prospect here, and
Speaker 3: what I mean we're talking he could he could maybe
Speaker 3: be nineteen years old and in Hi, right, I mean,
Speaker 3: that's that's pretty nice. I know there's there's some walks
Speaker 3: and stuff like that, obviously, but a younger guy. He's
Speaker 3: far from from wild to me and out of control.
Speaker 3: I think he, for a teenager, is trying to execute
Speaker 3: a pretty sophisticated plan mixing his offerings. So yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go with beneath us, and he's probably like right
Speaker 3: in the middle of my thirty arms, maybe a little
Speaker 3: bit to the back half. As far as how i'd
Speaker 3: line them all up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that kind of tracks. This Miami system,
Speaker 4: as you said, is a bit top heavy. I think
Speaker 4: a couple of those top end arms you and I
Speaker 4: both really like. I mean, I know Thomas White is
Speaker 4: one that we both are are big fans of, and
Speaker 4: Snelling and Maser both we've had some positive things to
Speaker 4: say about in the past. I don't think we're alone
Speaker 4: in that those guys are all good. Going further down
Speaker 4: the ownership in this system, I was pretty I struggled
Speaker 4: a bit and ended up with a guy that I
Speaker 4: would say is in the bottom ten, maybe bottom third definitely,
Speaker 4: i'd say of the of the arms that I came
Speaker 4: up with with a couple of guys in the system,
Speaker 4: and it's worth noting Austin Roberts. He's a Rule five
Speaker 4: draftee from I think Pittsburgh, maybe originally that Miami grab
Speaker 4: and Roberts. He's a reliever only, but kind of like
Speaker 4: my arm from the system last year, Anthony Maldonado, I
Speaker 4: think he's got the chance to be a pretty high
Speaker 4: leverage reliever. The stuff is, you know, fastballs like mid nineties,
Speaker 4: but it's a nasty changeup, a decent slider, and it
Speaker 4: just looks like this is a kind of nasty back
Speaker 4: of the bullpen guy. Maybe as soon as next year.
Speaker 4: So again, Austin Roberts, someone to peep for your reliever
Speaker 4: specking in those deep leagues. I also really considered Will Schomberg,
Speaker 4: who was a Mariner's arm. He was really good with
Speaker 4: the Mariners and I was pretty interested in him, But
Speaker 4: I forget which trade that was that he got sent
Speaker 4: to the Marlins for anyway. I can't remember who that
Speaker 4: was for, but he was like atrocious after he went
Speaker 4: to the Marlins swing and miss still was there, but
Speaker 4: he was walking everybody. And it's a small sample, so
Speaker 4: maybe it was just like new regime having him work
Speaker 4: on something. I'm not sure he's one to watch because
Speaker 4: I was pretty interested in what he was putting up
Speaker 4: in Seattle and then it just backed up so much
Speaker 4: in Miami in a way that I hate personally, like
Speaker 4: the high walk guys, so I stepped away from Schomberg.
Speaker 4: He might have the most upside of these these three
Speaker 4: guys that I honed in on. But the guy that
Speaker 4: I'm going to go with, and again I'm not super
Speaker 4: excited about it, is Jake Brooks. He's a college righty
Speaker 4: out of UCLA who I saw a little bit in
Speaker 4: when he was there. Kind of feels Johnny right handery
Speaker 4: to me, like it's good strike throwing ability. He walked
Speaker 4: fewer than five percent of guys this year, didn't miss
Speaker 4: a ton of bats for a college guy in mostly
Speaker 4: low A. He was still only missing like I think
Speaker 4: ten and a half percent, And as far as swinging
Speaker 4: strike rate goes which is pretty low, and it was
Speaker 4: didn't come with like a super high ground ball rate
Speaker 4: or pop up rate or anything. You know, He's pretty
Speaker 4: standard johnny right hander. I did like that he will
Speaker 4: attack with a solid three pitch mix, goes to his
Speaker 4: change up a lot, and it's a decent pitch. The
Speaker 4: fastball just isn't explosive. I don't think it has great shape,
Speaker 4: so I can't recommend him a ton, but I liked
Speaker 4: that he still managed to get pretty solid results even
Speaker 4: with like a kind of I don't know, subpar, putrid,
Speaker 4: borderline unplayable strikeout rate. I expect that all to rise
Speaker 4: a bit unless something significant changes about his pitch mix,
Speaker 4: and maybe with the new organ there in Miami, they
Speaker 4: can mold him into something a bit more in the offseason. Yeah,
Speaker 4: there's a decent starters foundation, and in terms of the
Speaker 4: pitch mix here, it's a simple delivery, and he had
Speaker 4: a couple of pretty nice outings to end the year.
Speaker 4: There's something there that's like, you know, maybe a sixth
Speaker 4: or seventh depth starter up and down guy in a
Speaker 4: year or two, but not a glowing endorsement, but still
Speaker 4: my guy for Miami this year is Jake Brooks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, once you got as kind of their more popular arms. Like,
Speaker 3: I'm just looking at my short list and I was
Speaker 3: down to a bunch of nineteen year olds in Schomberg.
Speaker 3: Not much in the uppers that got me too excited
Speaker 3: from the unpopular guys. Benitas was one percent rostered in September,
Speaker 3: Brooks was zero percent. Matt the New York Mets. I
Speaker 3: won't lie. I'm kind of excited about this pick. Probably
Speaker 3: my top ten B side arms. I'm going with young
Speaker 3: Wellington Arisania just how you say it, And man, I
Speaker 3: know this guy is like so up your ally because
Speaker 3: he rocked a twenty three percent walk rate and a
Speaker 3: ball yep. Now mind you that was six outings thirteen
Speaker 3: and one third innings. But he does have a history
Speaker 3: and rookie ball of the high walk rates. But Arisenia
Speaker 3: is six ' three, big righty from the Dominican. He
Speaker 3: was just nineteen years old this season. You're talking a
Speaker 3: fastball that can touch triple digits. I wonder a lot
Speaker 3: about what his secondary game might end up looking like
Speaker 3: or being don't think he really has a natural feel
Speaker 3: for spinning one. I think they gave him a cutter
Speaker 3: to try to work with. And of course the walk rates, right,
Speaker 3: that's a big thing. But I was really impressed with
Speaker 3: a few of his outings that were televised, the video
Speaker 3: that I'll share that one doesn't look like a guy
Speaker 3: who walks twenty four percent of guys or whatever. And
Speaker 3: if you look at his game logs, it's kind of
Speaker 3: like walk zero, walk zero, walk zero, walk six, walk six,
Speaker 3: walk five, walk zero, walk zero. Make of that what
Speaker 3: you might? I don't know, but you know, I think
Speaker 3: there's a lot of kind of a big boom here.
Speaker 3: I watching him, I think of watching like Justin Martinez
Speaker 3: back in like twenty twenty one. I think there's some
Speaker 3: similar similarities there, and very curious if there's a similarity
Speaker 3: in like the actual shape of fastball. I think there's
Speaker 3: like some natural cut there. But this is guy and Matt.
Speaker 3: You know that, I don't like guys who walk a
Speaker 3: bazillion dudes. I think there might be some hope here.
Speaker 3: I'm wondering if a lot of the wildness can't just
Speaker 3: be I don't know, maybe cleaned up with some more
Speaker 3: consistent mechanics or something like that. I don't know, but
Speaker 3: like I said. A couple of the looks that I saw,
Speaker 3: I was, I was pretty blown away. They have him relieving,
Speaker 3: you know, some extended three inning outings and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: We'll see what they do with him. But I got
Speaker 3: to imagine you got to arm this lively down in
Speaker 3: a ball. I would think that you would want to
Speaker 3: give him a shot at starting and see how that
Speaker 3: might go. So my hope is that that's the plan
Speaker 3: and he gets some more extended looks a ball and
Speaker 3: he harnesses in a pretty nasty powerful fastball and develop
Speaker 3: some of that cutter or slider, and I think he
Speaker 3: could he could put up some big time numbers in
Speaker 3: a ball if that all happens.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, not on my radar at all, and
Speaker 4: you're likely right that walk rate sounds sounds probably why
Speaker 4: I didn't prioritize watching any of Arisania. Yeah, Mike, I
Speaker 4: again couldn't be more different. Again, this is like both
Speaker 4: of our approaches to this particular exercise. I definitely tend
Speaker 4: lean towards more like college arms that maybe they've got
Speaker 4: something there and they could be quick moving. And that's
Speaker 4: definitely the fish that I tend to shop shop for.
Speaker 3: I have brought up three teenagers, so funny you have,
Speaker 3: I know, but it's more coincidental. My next two are
Speaker 3: not teenagers.
Speaker 4: And again like the guy that I'm going to talk
Speaker 4: about next for the Mets is recent college right handed
Speaker 4: starting pitcher Jack Weininger. Weninger. Yeah, he's a writy I
Speaker 4: think at an Illinois if I recall correctly, decent in college,
Speaker 4: but not like a big prospect. I think he even
Speaker 4: got like lower than slot. Deal didn't pop on my
Speaker 4: college arms to watch lists from last year, but I
Speaker 4: really liked what I saw out of him. This is
Speaker 4: like a top half arm for me, with a chance
Speaker 4: for more. As far as the B sides go. Is
Speaker 4: the look of a kind of standard righty in that
Speaker 4: it's mostly a three pitch mix. Think that there's a
Speaker 4: chance for a little bit more stuff, like like the
Speaker 4: stuff is more.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: He has some like Johnny right hander traits, which I
Speaker 4: used more as a pejorative at times. It's you know,
Speaker 4: a ninety two to four mile an hour fastball. The
Speaker 4: slot is like upper three quarters, so it looks like
Speaker 4: it has okay ride without being elite. It's you know,
Speaker 4: not like Jonahtong right over the top with a ton
Speaker 4: of ride, kind of arm angle, good slider that the movement,
Speaker 4: the shape of it varies a little bit, but is
Speaker 4: a useful pitch. And then I think his go to
Speaker 4: is a changeup that he'll throw to either righty's or lefties.
Speaker 4: But he knows how to deploy that arsenal pretty well.
Speaker 4: And he ended in High A this year, had like
Speaker 4: kind of split his year half at A ball half
Speaker 4: at High A, and had a really pretty nice run
Speaker 4: to end the year there in Brooklyn. His last start
Speaker 4: in particular, I would suggest people get out and watch.
Speaker 4: It was six innings of one run ball, ten punch outs,
Speaker 4: and he was like he was earning these punch outs too.
Speaker 4: It wasn't a lot of like called strikes or crap competition.
Speaker 4: Like he had been promoted into HIGA and National's lineup
Speaker 4: was okay there at the end of the year, so
Speaker 4: I thought he looked really solid.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: He put up one hundred and fifteen or so innings
Speaker 4: across the year, so there's like a solid platform for
Speaker 4: him to start the year again at High A, maybe
Speaker 4: end the year in Double A or Triple A if
Speaker 4: things continue to coalesce for him. I could see this
Speaker 4: as a kind of four or five arm at peak
Speaker 4: in the major leagues.
Speaker 3: Like it.
Speaker 4: He just looks a lot like a major league right
Speaker 4: hander that's going to have some He's gonna have a
Speaker 4: season or two that looks really good. There will definitely
Speaker 4: be some bumps in the road because I said, nothing
Speaker 4: is outstanding, but of it put together, he's a real pitcher.
Speaker 4: And I was impressed with a number of my looks
Speaker 4: at him.
Speaker 3: Right huh. And you're not alone there. In September, Weninger
Speaker 3: was one percent rostered. So there's a few fans now
Speaker 3: during the season Weninger and Austin I think Trosser is
Speaker 3: how you say it. We're both putting up like some
Speaker 3: some good looking lines in a ball. So I turned
Speaker 3: them both on. They're both they're both righties, and I
Speaker 3: get them confused, So help me out here. I remember
Speaker 3: one of them I really liked, I really liked the
Speaker 3: spin game, did not like the fastball game. And then
Speaker 3: the other one was the opposite. So Weninger what his fastball?
Speaker 3: It's which one is? Ta? I get them confused in
Speaker 3: my in my ead.
Speaker 4: I don't know if i'd classify him as either. I mean,
Speaker 4: like I said, his fastball isn't overpowering. Reminds me a
Speaker 4: little bit of He reminds me a little bit of
Speaker 4: a guy that has the three direction movement profile right,
Speaker 4: Like the change up really dives, the fastball stays fly,
Speaker 4: and the slider really breaks glove side like that. It's
Speaker 4: got that movement profile where all of the pitches separate
Speaker 4: pretty well. I guess maybe the fastball isn't quite as good.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: He he doesn't have a great curveball, and he's more
Speaker 4: of a changeup first. I think the change up is
Speaker 4: a little bit better. So maybe he's like the guy
Speaker 4: that he liked his fastball a bit.
Speaker 3: And and yes, I think maybe I think maybe Wininger
Speaker 3: was the guy in my few looks that I wasn't
Speaker 3: super impressed with the breaking.
Speaker 4: Stuff Weeninger for me, yeah, like his his slider is
Speaker 4: definitely his third best pitch, I think. And I love
Speaker 4: that he goes right on right change up, Like he'll
Speaker 4: throw that change up inside to righty's and they think
Speaker 4: they gotta be quick to the fastball and swing over
Speaker 4: this kind of diving change up. And I've been kind
Speaker 4: of a bit of a thing for righties with plus
Speaker 4: change ups in this exercise in the past with you know,
Speaker 4: Logan Henderson among among others.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, after you get past the more popular arms
Speaker 3: in the system. Christian Scott wrote, Tom, Well, the seal
Speaker 3: Hammel of still five percent, hanging on to Matt Allen,
Speaker 3: Kelvin Ziggler and then your boy you wander was that
Speaker 3: two percent? But after that, I gotta say I wasn't like,
Speaker 3: I wasn't super into a bunch of guys. They got
Speaker 3: a couple first year player arms that I turned on,
Speaker 3: but it was such a small sample size. You know
Speaker 3: that Arisenia was pretty much an easy call for me,
Speaker 3: despite how poorly it could maybe go. So if there's
Speaker 3: like a big boom guy in the thirty arms that
Speaker 3: I bring up like he might be it if you
Speaker 3: want to live on that wild side.
Speaker 4: All right, all right, that's a bold call. But some
Speaker 4: of your bold calls have worked out before, so I'm
Speaker 4: not gonna pooh pooh it too much. Although I doubt
Speaker 4: I'm going to roster that guy anytime soon, I'm not
Speaker 4: gonna bet against him either.
Speaker 3: I didn't look at like rankings and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: That's not true. I did look at Pipeline's thirties a
Speaker 3: little bit, just to see if any of my guys
Speaker 3: were showing up on there. But I did notice maybe
Speaker 3: I was looking at some Rule five stuff. Regardless, I
Speaker 3: think your boy long and hang and has Arisenia pretty
Speaker 3: high on his mets list. Really, for whatever that's worse.
Speaker 4: Let's go to the Phillies next, and I'll lead it off.
Speaker 4: Of the five arms that we're talking about here, I
Speaker 4: think this guy's my favorite. It's not maybe the profile
Speaker 4: that I'm usually really wowed by in the I think
Speaker 4: he's got some issues with control, like he walks a
Speaker 4: little more than I would like. But I kind of
Speaker 4: loved his kitchen sink mix. So I'm going with Luke Russo.
Speaker 4: Did you watch a bunch of Luke Russo?
Speaker 3: Definitely turned him on, But I did not make any
Speaker 3: notes nat So he did not strike me as noteworthy
Speaker 3: enlighten me.
Speaker 4: I think that's interesting because he does some things that
Speaker 4: I feel like you really like. And the lead for
Speaker 4: him is I think his breaking ball is a hammer,
Speaker 4: like he was just throwing this to Riety's to Lefty.
Speaker 4: He's a right handed pitcher, twenty three years old and
Speaker 4: ended the season in High A he dominated dudes with
Speaker 4: this curveball, and it didn't matter the count, the location,
Speaker 4: Like he would get a called strike at the top
Speaker 4: of the zone, he'd throw it and it looked like
Speaker 4: it was a middle middle fastball, and then these high
Speaker 4: hitters are just whiffing right over it. The curveball was
Speaker 4: the most impressive pitch, but I think he showed five,
Speaker 4: maybe six pitches, depending on how the slider is classified,
Speaker 4: Like maybe it's a slider, maybe it's a slider and
Speaker 4: a cutter. He looks like he had a fastball, a
Speaker 4: four seam, but also maybe a two seam and then
Speaker 4: a changeup mixed in there as well. So had a
Speaker 4: lot of pitches and punched out twenty nine percent of batters.
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I was pretty excited about the
Speaker 4: breadth of the approach, Like the fastball even looked like
Speaker 4: it had some life, like a little bit of east
Speaker 4: west movement. But he stayed under it too, so I
Speaker 4: wouldn't be surprised if its shape is like slightly above average.
Speaker 4: Maybe you know, he wasn't getting a ton of whiffs
Speaker 4: on it or anything, but it looked like it was
Speaker 4: a hard pitch to square up, and like I said,
Speaker 4: he was a fun pitcher to watch, like he would
Speaker 4: approach each hitter kind of differently, and it definitely looked
Speaker 4: like he was a guy that I threw on a
Speaker 4: few outings in a row, and it was interesting to
Speaker 4: see that he was very unpredictable. A lot of these
Speaker 4: guys you just kind of watch them for a little
Speaker 4: bit and you know, oh, this is how they're going
Speaker 4: to approach this guy. This is how they're going to
Speaker 4: approach that guy. And Russo was not like that at all.
Speaker 4: He the first time threw might throw a guy only curveballs,
Speaker 4: and then the next at bat he doesn't show the
Speaker 4: curveball at all, and then the third at bat he's,
Speaker 4: you know, coming in with the cutter, away, with the changeup,
Speaker 4: up with the fastball, and then curveball middle strike three
Speaker 4: looking because they hadn't seen it in two at bats.
Speaker 4: That kind of depth of arsenal and none of them
Speaker 4: seemed bad to me, has me as excited as really
Speaker 4: any arm in that system side of Painter. So, he's
Speaker 4: one that I actually he was my favorite of the
Speaker 4: five here in the National League East. The drawback for
Speaker 4: him is the command he walks a little more than
Speaker 4: I would like. And that's on the control side, you know,
Speaker 4: nine point five walk percentage this year against the again
Speaker 4: the twenty nine percent strikeout rate. But it's also the
Speaker 4: some of these pitches are all over the place, Like
Speaker 4: he had outings where I think multiple outings that I
Speaker 4: watched where he struck out the third batter but it
Speaker 4: was a wild pitch and they got to first and
Speaker 4: then he struck out the next batter again, you know.
Speaker 4: So he did that a couple of times at least
Speaker 4: that I saw. And his fastball command isn't very good.
Speaker 4: So even though shape wise it seems all right and
Speaker 4: he doesn't give up a ton of hard contact on it,
Speaker 4: at least that I saw, he also throws it for
Speaker 4: a ball a lot, and so I think he's a
Speaker 4: little bit inefficient as well. So definitely still some work
Speaker 4: to be done there for Luke Russo. But I really
Speaker 4: liked him. I just thought there was a lot of fun,
Speaker 4: fun breakers in there, and a diverse mix and a
Speaker 4: diverse attack, which is just interesting.
Speaker 3: But maybe Russ did that buy me there have to
Speaker 3: go back and watch.
Speaker 4: I know who you're going to go for.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in my Philly's arm I think is probably right,
Speaker 3: but I'm going he's still too I liked him a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm going with I mean, we talked about him this
Speaker 3: season several times, but I'm going with Ibsen Castillano. He
Speaker 3: was two percent rostered in September, and this is the
Speaker 3: most rostered arm that I that I will pick this offseason.
Speaker 3: But just had to. Man, just felt too right. Nobody
Speaker 3: else really kind of blew me away or got me
Speaker 3: nearly as interested. I mean, but to Philly's arms, you're talking.
Speaker 3: This is after Painter Abel Tyler, Phillips, Seth Johnson, McCarry, Moise's,
Speaker 3: Chase Nade, his Graves, Jean Cabrera. But yeah, Castiania, I mean,
Speaker 3: he's got a really good fast ball. He's got can
Speaker 3: be at times just a devastating breaking ball to both sides.
Speaker 3: Showed some lengthy through some fqos. I didn't notice though,
Speaker 3: and something that I didn't think about this season. Kind
Speaker 3: of wonder about his effectiveness versus lefties, especially you know,
Speaker 3: a major league caliber lefty.
Speaker 4: I wonder with how much he relies on that sweeper.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, he may be a weapon short
Speaker 3: of really getting to that next level. So you know
Speaker 3: what's that give him a cutter. So that's something that
Speaker 3: I kind of want to keep an eye on. But
Speaker 3: if you're not familiar cast On, you, I think really
Speaker 3: had a breakout year. He's Venezuelan, He's twenty three years old.
Speaker 3: He ended in double A. He got a little roughed up,
Speaker 3: I think his second to last outing, but he had
Speaker 3: some really dominant performances execution wise. Would I say that
Speaker 3: he is like the greatest I've ever seen, No, he's
Speaker 3: still he could still tighten tighten execution, I think with
Speaker 3: all of his offerings. But I think with that slider
Speaker 3: being so good at times that you know, he doesn't
Speaker 3: have to be the most precise guy. But I also
Speaker 3: kind of think that this is He's the reason why
Speaker 3: the Phillies had no problem letting Aldegari go. You know,
Speaker 3: so we shall see. I'm hoping maybe he gets a
Speaker 3: chance in the Biggs this year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a big co sign for me, and
Speaker 4: I would have picked Ca too, but I knew that
Speaker 4: this is Nate's guy. He really was harping on how
Speaker 4: good Iverson was really early in the year before anybody,
Speaker 4: before I saw anybody else talk about him. So this was.
Speaker 4: This was a Nate call through and through, and yeah,
Speaker 4: I like Cassiano a lot. The strikeouts are there, the
Speaker 4: execution like it can get a little bit variable at times,
Speaker 4: but he's a very good pitcher and I think he
Speaker 4: does have a great shot to contribute to the major
Speaker 4: leagues and soon. So I think you probably got me
Speaker 4: beat on this one, but it's I just gave it
Speaker 4: to you because I knew that he was your guy.
Speaker 3: His eight double A starts, forty and one third innings,
Speaker 3: three point seventy nine ERA, a point nine to nine whip.
Speaker 3: He struck out almost thirty one percent, walking five point
Speaker 3: six percent. That's not too shabby.
Speaker 4: Very good, Very good. All right, Who on earth did
Speaker 4: you pull for the Nationals? Cause I gotta say this
Speaker 4: was tough.
Speaker 3: It always is, man, it always is. Last year, I
Speaker 3: just went with like a repeat and he didn't even
Speaker 3: pitch all year because he was coming back from Tommy John.
Speaker 3: But you know, it's so hard with minor league injuries.
Speaker 3: We don't get a lot of information, but I'm gonna
Speaker 3: go with who it might be the same story. I
Speaker 3: don't even know if we're gonna see my guy this year.
Speaker 4: If it's the same one that I picked. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: laugh so hard.
Speaker 3: He was the first year college arm last year and
Speaker 3: I was gonna pick him, but I was like, man,
Speaker 3: I didn't really love it, you know, But now I
Speaker 3: guess I do. And part of the reason why I'm
Speaker 3: going with with Liam Sullivan it is it is who
Speaker 3: had two starts this year and.
Speaker 4: It starts I know.
Speaker 3: And I think he went down with John I think. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But dude, okay, so William Sullivan, you're talking. He's listed
Speaker 3: at six to six. I don't know how many pounds
Speaker 3: a lot here. Yeah, he was a thirteenth round pick
Speaker 3: from Georgia in the twenty twenty three draft. But now
Speaker 3: when you watch him, tell me if you think I'm
Speaker 3: way off base here. But in the in the like
Speaker 3: pitching evolution tree, he's like a I feel like he's
Speaker 3: like a cousin of like a like a maybe a
Speaker 3: distant cousin, but a cousin of like a Herder and
Speaker 3: Mitchell Parker kind of mix.
Speaker 4: Hmmm.
Speaker 3: He's got I see some overlap. He's got a big
Speaker 3: like sort of curveball from the left side, like uh,
Speaker 3: like Parker, and he was like built kind of like Herder.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Although although I don't know if I don't know if
Speaker 3: you watched him last year at all, one of the
Speaker 3: reasons why I got kind of excited. I mean I
Speaker 3: use that very loosely, but wanted to pick him. Here
Speaker 3: is our guy here lost a ship ton of weight
Speaker 3: this last offseason. Dude.
Speaker 4: Interesting.
Speaker 3: He was way bigger after the draft, and I turned
Speaker 3: him on at the beginning here I was like, damn, dude,
Speaker 3: they putting in the work getting fit. But I think
Speaker 3: he a ball. I don't think he was going to
Speaker 3: be there for very long this year. I mean he is.
Speaker 3: He came out and dominated his first two outings, and
Speaker 3: he's just he's too good for a ball. I think
Speaker 3: there's some funkiness watching some of his releases and release points.
Speaker 3: They're just like his hand just like looks weird to me. Boy,
Speaker 3: we're talking like us off toss and lefty right nine
Speaker 3: ninety two, ninety three on the fastball, maybe ninety three.
Speaker 3: But he's got I think a pretty good change up.
Speaker 3: I think he's got two good breakers. I feel like
Speaker 3: Sullivan kind of fits us that at least the guys
Speaker 3: that we went with last year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I he was my pick for a lot
Speaker 4: of the same reasons. I think the thing that I
Speaker 4: saw in the brief little looks of last year and
Speaker 4: this year for Sullivan was that he really had a
Speaker 4: solid plan of attack for righties and for lefties. And
Speaker 4: the curveball's probably the best pitch there, like the Mitchell
Speaker 4: Parker that when he leans on that, he was stealing
Speaker 4: strikes all over the place with that is a big breaker.
Speaker 4: But I also think he gets pretty good extension. So
Speaker 4: his fastball played up pretty much when he was throwing
Speaker 4: that in the zone, like guys weren't hitting it or
Speaker 4: they were popping it up. It looked like that combo
Speaker 4: was really tricky for both sides of the plate. But
Speaker 4: then the slider that he would feature against lefties, like
Speaker 4: they looked awful against that pitch, I thought, yeah, And
Speaker 4: then the change up, I agree with you. I think
Speaker 4: it comes out looking kind of funky.
Speaker 3: Because we don't get a good angle of him. That's true,
Speaker 3: and there's and there's such a small size. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: even last year, but yeah, yeah, I don't know, you
Speaker 3: watch enough like I'd be willing to bet that this
Speaker 3: stuff is pretty decent.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I tend to agree with you. I again, This
Speaker 4: isn't some like warning signal like oh my god, when
Speaker 4: he comes back in June or July, you must pick
Speaker 4: him up or whatever. This is more like remember the
Speaker 4: name Liam Sullivan for when he does come back, because
Speaker 4: if it looks like he did right before he went down,
Speaker 4: he's going to be a fast mover and might be
Speaker 4: the best arm in the NATS minor leagues like immediately,
Speaker 4: because the only other guys that are worth a shit
Speaker 4: are high up in that system and are going to
Speaker 4: be major league contributors really soon. Everyone else that is
Speaker 4: like low ownership and in the NATS system is poop.
Speaker 4: Like it's so bad.
Speaker 3: You're talking Cavali Secora, Susannah Rutledge, Klemmy Brad Lord was
Speaker 3: maybe their big like B side breakout.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you you noted him out of the draft
Speaker 4: last year, right, like that was one that you had
Speaker 4: sound like might be interesting. I don't know if I did,
Speaker 4: but one of us did, like we I remember talking
Speaker 4: about him a bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then like then like you're saying, even there
Speaker 3: guys that are like six percent down Cole Henry head
Speaker 3: whack and Cole Henry no, thank you. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: part of taking Sullivan is like, I actually am legitimately
Speaker 3: interested in him and seeing what he does when he
Speaker 3: comes back. The rest of the guys, I'm like, I
Speaker 3: don't really care. Although I think you did pick a
Speaker 3: I thought you picked a pretty decent NAT's B side
Speaker 3: last year. Though Andrew Alvarez had a really good year,
Speaker 3: he's still rasted at zero percent in September. I'd take
Speaker 3: I'd take him over half those those other guys we
Speaker 3: just listed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, and I considered going back to that well,
Speaker 4: but it's just like the strikeouts are not going to
Speaker 4: be a thing for him, and the walk rate ticked
Speaker 4: up a little bit this year. I think he's really
Speaker 4: going to struggle to be a useful Yeah, big leaguere
Speaker 4: not that he won't maybe make it and get some starts,
Speaker 4: and in a super deep league, maybe that plays for you.
Speaker 3: But yeah, Sullivan, he felt like, you're kind of guy too. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I wondered when I was going deep in this and
Speaker 4: I was going to take somebody that had like very
Speaker 4: few innings on under them, I was like, I wonder
Speaker 4: if Nate's going to take this guy too, because there's
Speaker 4: not a lot else to lie.
Speaker 3: And I was real close to taking them away. I
Speaker 3: actually had like his video last year, like cut up
Speaker 3: that I was, but yeah, I don't know. I checked
Speaker 3: out at the end.
Speaker 4: Because well our first shared pick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there we go, and those have done well, Matt,
Speaker 3: when we come together, they.
Speaker 4: We both like a guy that that has generally gone
Speaker 4: pretty well.
Speaker 3: But with Sullivan here, he might not. Even if he
Speaker 3: does take off or do well, that might be well passed.
Speaker 3: Like pop up season really might be the bat J.
Speaker 4: He got TJ in April, so that's early in the
Speaker 4: season at least, so you know, call it fourteen months.
Speaker 3: But I do like the man. I think the potential
Speaker 3: of him like moving quick to get him like caught
Speaker 3: up like I think, is very much there. So who knows,
Speaker 3: Maybe we see him in double A at the end
Speaker 3: of the last of next year. Yeah, all right, So
Speaker 3: those are our NL East B side arms for twenty
Speaker 3: twenty five, Matt.
Speaker 4: Now guys in there, Yeah, I think.
Speaker 3: So this's when we talk about those loser hitters.
Speaker 4: There's some good ones in here. You can't say there's
Speaker 4: losers in this in this bunch.
Speaker 3: They're losing.
Speaker 4: I know we've got I know we've got at least
Speaker 4: one overlap here.
Speaker 3: All right, the Atlanta Braves. Matt, you're is it what
Speaker 3: your second team?
Speaker 4: They're my They're my original, my first team. Can't you
Speaker 4: tell by my Southern accent.
Speaker 3: I actually was kind of surprised. I found a young
Speaker 3: bat that I really liked quite a bit in John
Speaker 3: heel Gil Healing. I think I was calling him one
Speaker 3: because on the broadcast they call him. I think like
Speaker 3: it's like a it's like a but but John Gill
Speaker 3: Jan Heel g Al Yeah, but a young Dominican who
Speaker 3: got in thirty nine games at a ball. I know
Speaker 3: there's a couple of Discord members that I think are
Speaker 3: interested here, but I might be. I mean, I don't
Speaker 3: want to give away my my draft stuff, but this
Speaker 3: is one of my more favorite B side selections this year.
Speaker 3: It's a shortstop listed at six ' one. I think
Speaker 3: that's probably about right. He's kind of interesting because I
Speaker 3: think he's way more athletic than the build. Might you know,
Speaker 3: aesthetically he might look. Now, I time this on video,
Speaker 3: so you know, take that for what it's worth. But
Speaker 3: he had well it's on the video. It's on the
Speaker 3: video that I'll share. But from out of the box
Speaker 3: to first or no from from contact to first he
Speaker 3: had like a four. I think, yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: It was super fast. And that was just from the
Speaker 3: video the video editing timer, So I think he's super fast.
Speaker 3: I really tried to make an effort more this year
Speaker 3: Matt to watch defense on guys. I tediously went through.
Speaker 3: I can't say there was really a lot to see
Speaker 3: from him a shortstop. You know, some of his games
Speaker 3: weren't broadcast. There was a lot of like charging a
Speaker 3: ground ball, making a nice throw. I didn't find any
Speaker 3: like diving stops or anything like that. And he didn't
Speaker 3: hit a home run in a ball. But I did
Speaker 3: catch a complex game where he hit a home run
Speaker 3: and there was some like game day stat cast stuff
Speaker 3: or whatever, and he hit a ball one hundred and
Speaker 3: five point one four hundred and eleven feet, So you know,
Speaker 3: maybe there's a little pop in the swing. But I
Speaker 3: like the look of him. I like the look of
Speaker 3: him at the plate. Thought he had some pretty nice
Speaker 3: at bats, seemed very much in controlled and you know,
Speaker 3: eighteen year old kid didn't seem like out of his element.
Speaker 3: In one hundred and fifty nine played appearances, like he
Speaker 3: only hit two oh four slug two fifty five. You know,
Speaker 3: nothing out standing there. He struck out twenty three point
Speaker 3: three percent of the time, he walked twelve percent of
Speaker 3: the time. But I think Clegg had noted some some
Speaker 3: metrics and stuff that he was interested in. But yeah,
Speaker 3: a young shortstop here that I kind of like the
Speaker 3: look of, and you know, maybe he can he can
Speaker 3: pop like some of the young arms did last year.
Speaker 3: For me, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like heel a bit too. The speed and
Speaker 4: athleticism are definitely his calling cards, and he's got a
Speaker 4: solid plate approach. I would say, I wonder how much
Speaker 4: that's going to hold up, considering I don't think there's
Speaker 4: gonna be a ton of impact in the bat, at
Speaker 4: least that hasn't really been a part of his game
Speaker 4: so far.
Speaker 3: He had three complex home runs this year, for whatever
Speaker 3: it's worth.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and to be fair, the lower miners for the
Speaker 4: Braves aren't great places to hit in general, So that's
Speaker 4: something to note that even if the power doesn't really
Speaker 4: show up next year, he's he's young enough that even
Speaker 4: hater aide me with the whole projecting power thing, I
Speaker 4: still think there is some time for him to grow
Speaker 4: into a bit of power and the speed seems real
Speaker 4: and he does have a decent idea of the strike
Speaker 4: zone and he's an up the middle defender, so all
Speaker 4: those things are positives for heel and I like him
Speaker 4: quite a bit too. He's a solid B side pick
Speaker 4: in this org.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and part of it also too is I probably
Speaker 3: just wasn't really super in love with a lot of
Speaker 3: bats in this system at this raster percentage.
Speaker 4: Yeah, though the Braves have been a fruitful B side
Speaker 4: and ground for us. Joe had another really solid year
Speaker 4: and Drake Baldwin was maybe my biggest success last year,
Speaker 4: and Grisom in the past and Grissom in the past,
Speaker 4: so this is another one. And I kind of considered
Speaker 4: going for the guy that looked a little bit like
Speaker 4: that archetype this year in ej Xposito, Like I really
Speaker 4: flirted with him because he does have that well rounded
Speaker 4: profile that we like and has some similarities with some
Speaker 4: of the other guys, like not elite power, but a
Speaker 4: solid glove, good speed, And I did consider it because
Speaker 4: I liked quite a bit about Exposito, but I went
Speaker 4: a different direction, and you know, I'm not in love
Speaker 4: with this pick, Like, I don't think he's going to
Speaker 4: be in my top half and not in consideration for
Speaker 4: my draft for the bats. Just to tip my hand
Speaker 4: a little bit, but I'm going with Ethan Werkinger this year.
Speaker 3: That was my runner up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's an outfielder. They slotted him in all
Speaker 4: three slots. I think he can play a decent center
Speaker 4: field and would be maybe a hair above average in
Speaker 4: left or right defensively speaking, just from the looks that
Speaker 4: I got, I think he's pretty fast too. He's a
Speaker 4: right handed hitter. But I got a sub four second
Speaker 4: time on when he beat out and infield single to
Speaker 4: second base. It was like a two hopper did the
Speaker 4: second basement field of like just just to the shortstop
Speaker 4: side of second base bag. But he beat the throw
Speaker 4: like pretty easily, and I got like a three seven
Speaker 4: time on that run. But I think there was something
Speaker 4: weird with how the broadcast cut the video, like it
Speaker 4: definitely wasn't actually a three point seven second time, but
Speaker 4: it looked plus, which made me sort of surprise. That
Speaker 4: he only swiped nine bags in a full season. That
Speaker 4: was a bit weird to me. So I caught six
Speaker 4: times and got caught six times, so like maybe he
Speaker 4: just is a crappy bass stealer. I don't know, but
Speaker 4: he seems fast to me so and ran a decent
Speaker 4: babip too. There's not a ton of power here. He
Speaker 4: popped twelve homers over five hundred and forty five played appearances,
Speaker 4: but he spent a lot of time in hya and
Speaker 4: double A, which for the Braves are horrible parks to
Speaker 4: hit home runs. We noted that with Drake Baldwin last year,
Speaker 4: so I think there might be a little bit more
Speaker 4: power in in the bat. There nuked a homer off
Speaker 4: of Casey Hunt that I saw, who was really really good.
Speaker 4: You know, we didn't talk about him a ton this year,
Speaker 4: but he's somebody that I threw on.
Speaker 3: Was it off his fastball today? Yeah, highly skeptical.
Speaker 4: Of Yeah, it was off the fastball and he missed
Speaker 4: the spot, but it was still nuked.
Speaker 3: Like.
Speaker 4: He put that one out by a lot. So I
Speaker 4: say that just as like hitting well off good pitchers,
Speaker 4: it's not something that is necessarily indicative of anything in
Speaker 4: the future. And his Nate said that Hunt's fastball is
Speaker 4: definitely his weakest pitch, but it was just a nice
Speaker 4: a nice signal that working your he might be a
Speaker 4: little bit better than he He seems from the surface
Speaker 4: line stats and has the look of a fourth outfielder
Speaker 4: to me, like if things break right for him. So
Speaker 4: I again, this isn't a stud for me. This isn't
Speaker 4: a sound the alarm kind of thing. But I liked
Speaker 4: the well rounded of the approach and think there might
Speaker 4: be a little bit more under the hood.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think he's in the AFL right now.
Speaker 3: I think I don't think he's getting a lot of
Speaker 3: run though I don't think I done anything too remarkable.
Speaker 3: He is Rule five eligible this year, but I doubt
Speaker 3: anyone would would snag him.
Speaker 4: I doubt it as well.
Speaker 3: It kind of checks out. I kind of feel like
Speaker 3: he's got a bat ball profile that kind of fits
Speaker 3: you a little bit.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and both heel and working dur both zero percent
Speaker 3: on September twenty seventh, zero percent rostered.
Speaker 4: Let's go to Miami because I think this is my
Speaker 4: favorite guy.
Speaker 3: Oh really, I'm interested?
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, really like this cat by far my favorite
Speaker 4: in Miami's system and is Yeah, I'm pretty excited about him.
Speaker 4: His name is Ryan Ignofo. Wouldn't be surprised if people
Speaker 4: haven't heard of him. He's a converted catcher, so he
Speaker 4: is a is a catcher for but didn't catch in college.
Speaker 4: And they were just like, we think you're a good
Speaker 4: player and athletic, go behind the dish, and I'm usually
Speaker 4: super skeptical of that. Like catching is the hardest defensive
Speaker 4: position in the game, it is rare that this kind
Speaker 4: of conversion works out swimmingly. But I didn't watch a
Speaker 4: ton of his defense. I still think it's a bit
Speaker 4: of a work in progress. But that's not why we're here.
Speaker 4: We're here because I think this guy can low key
Speaker 4: rake and his swing is kind of hilarious. I wish
Speaker 4: we had some of the batted ball like attack angle
Speaker 4: stuff that they've teased in the major leagues and they
Speaker 4: have some of that in stat cast, because this guy
Speaker 4: might have the flattest swing in minor league baseball, and
Speaker 4: it's super short. He's a short dude. He's like five
Speaker 4: to nine. I think he's listed on Fangrafts super short levers.
Speaker 4: He is really athletic, looking like almost looks like he
Speaker 4: should be a running back somewhere, really like deceptively fast
Speaker 4: and strong and bowling ball. Ass has some in common
Speaker 4: in that with like Gustavo Campero, because he swipes bags
Speaker 4: a lot, like he's I think he stole twenty one
Speaker 4: bags this year, struck out eleven percent of the time
Speaker 4: across the low A and high A. This year, only
Speaker 4: hit six homers, so again, like power isn't a big
Speaker 4: thing for him, but he again swipes bags and he
Speaker 4: hit thirty four doubles. That is a lot of doubles
Speaker 4: in four hundred plate appearances. Yeah, like he is a
Speaker 4: doubles machine. Because this this motherfucker just like line drive,
Speaker 4: line drive, line drive and corner to corner. I watched
Speaker 4: one game. I forget who they are playing, but his
Speaker 4: first step out of the game was like a two
Speaker 4: strike slider off the plate and he just hits a
Speaker 4: laser opposite field past the first baseman like liner, easy
Speaker 4: stand up double. Later in the game it was like
Speaker 4: an off the plate away change up. I think that
Speaker 4: fooled him and he kept his hands like super short
Speaker 4: and just still line drive over the third baseman's head
Speaker 4: and hustle around to for a double. Uh, the exact
Speaker 4: opposite way. But like line drives, either direction and same result.
Speaker 4: So dude just like hits tons of doubles and steals bags.
Speaker 4: Seems like maybe they are gonna let him stick at
Speaker 4: catcher because he only caught this year. Yeah, I think
Speaker 4: it was my favorite guy of this bunch, just because,
Speaker 4: like I had no he was not on my radar
Speaker 4: at all before this exercise and has like some ty France,
Speaker 4: light ty France, but athletic kind of thing to him,
Speaker 4: Like he's never gonna hit a ton of homers, I
Speaker 4: don't think, but he doesn't swing a miss. He's pretty
Speaker 4: aggressive in the zone and just hits line, drives all
Speaker 4: over the place. So yeah, kind of a fun guy.
Speaker 3: Ryan Ignofo, Yeah, he was a twentieth round pick out
Speaker 3: of Eastern Illinois in the twenty twenty three drafts, so.
Speaker 4: This last last rounder.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I like that. He was definitely on my
Speaker 3: short list here. I kind of himmed in had There
Speaker 3: are several guys that I thought could make for a
Speaker 3: great B side call in this organization. That wise, I
Speaker 3: was surprised to see Andrew Pintawer was only one percent
Speaker 3: roster back to September, So that was kind of like,
Speaker 3: I'll go with him for sure, that's a no brainer.
Speaker 3: But that felt a little I don't know, I didn't
Speaker 3: really feel b siding to me, like, I think he's
Speaker 3: a you know, he's probably gonna be roster more than
Speaker 3: one percent once the new season kicks off and people
Speaker 3: start catching on, especially now. He's having a pretty pretty
Speaker 3: hot little run in the AFL right now too. So
Speaker 3: there's that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a good he's a good little player.
Speaker 3: He'd be yeah, for sure. Came over from the Diamondbacks
Speaker 3: and whatever trade it was. I still am interested in
Speaker 3: Wilfredo Laura pick from last year. Ye. And I think
Speaker 3: Jared Cerno was is kind of interesting to me as well.
Speaker 3: He was in September. He was at zero percent interesting
Speaker 3: I know. And he's like top ten guy on according
Speaker 3: to a pipelines list.
Speaker 4: For them, And yeah, I amount still too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so it was HInM in hard a lot,
Speaker 3: but and I went with a guy who esthetically I hate,
Speaker 3: But I'm going with Johnny Olmsted.
Speaker 4: I don't interesting.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've seen any of him, yeah,
Speaker 3: a little bit at the plate, Matt, he looks like
Speaker 3: he belongs on the Carolina Mudcats, right. He's got like
Speaker 3: this horribly awkward big leg kick I don't care for.
Speaker 3: But I can't really argue with the results that he got.
Speaker 3: I don't think he started an a ball. He end
Speaker 3: up in Double A twenty three years old. He was
Speaker 3: their nineteenth round pick in the twenty twenty three draft.
Speaker 3: From USC five hundred and fourteen plate appearances, he hit
Speaker 3: fourteen home runs, stole thirteen bases, walked eight percent of
Speaker 3: the time, struck out eighteen and a half percent of
Speaker 3: the time two point fifty one three twenty two, four
Speaker 3: h nine slug a. Playing shortstop again, I tried to
Speaker 3: pay some attention to defense. I think he's pretty decent
Speaker 3: at short He's got a bad ball profile that I
Speaker 3: don't think looks too shabby. I don't know if I
Speaker 3: included this in the video or now, but I feel
Speaker 3: like when he was an able, I got something that
Speaker 3: he hit pretty hard or fairly hard, but you know,
Speaker 3: maybe a good balance approach, a little bit of hit,
Speaker 3: a little bit of pop can play up the middle.
Speaker 3: Thought I could do much worse. Just maybe close your
Speaker 3: eyes when you watch him bat. There's I liked.
Speaker 4: I liked Olmstead too. He was on my short list
Speaker 4: as well. I kind of dig the kind of goofy
Speaker 4: leg kick and oddly flat swing. That's the thing for
Speaker 4: him too that I thought was funny in watching him.
Speaker 4: But no, I like him too, and he does seem
Speaker 4: like that kind of well rounded player that is worth
Speaker 4: keeping an eye on. Yeah, I agree with you though.
Speaker 4: I like a lot of the guys in Miami system
Speaker 4: and the guys at the top.
Speaker 3: I think when Cleig was righting them up, he's like, man,
Speaker 3: they got a lot of guys. He doesn't know, like,
Speaker 3: you know, they got a lot of sexy guys, but
Speaker 3: they just got a lot of solid prospects. I think
Speaker 3: after their trading and recent drafts and every like that.
Speaker 3: But both Olmstead and Ignafo zero percent rostered cool. And
Speaker 3: you know, I imagine if those guys are Holm said
Speaker 3: will probably start in double A. They started putting up
Speaker 3: some decent numbers. Of course, that's going to get some
Speaker 3: more attention.
Speaker 4: We got for the Mutts.
Speaker 3: Ooh, the Mets, So the New York Mets. Matt this
Speaker 3: is my first dip into this year's first year player pool,
Speaker 3: so of course that's a little tricky. You know, we
Speaker 3: don't know necessarily what the roster percentage will be after
Speaker 3: first year player drafts are over and everything like that,
Speaker 3: but I figured he was a fourth round pick out
Speaker 3: of North Carolina State. I feel like fourth round picks
Speaker 3: don't get too popular, right Kapis was a third round pick.
Speaker 3: He didn't get too popular right after first year player drafts,
Speaker 3: so I thought it was safe enough. But I'm going
Speaker 3: with Eli Serrano the third Matt. I gotta say, once
Speaker 3: you'll start to notice a little trend here, once we
Speaker 3: start getting through some bats that is kind of an
Speaker 3: opposite of a big trend of ours from last year.
Speaker 3: I won't spoil it for you. Let's see if you
Speaker 3: start to catch on a little. But Serrano right field
Speaker 3: center field this year year. You know, post draft he's
Speaker 3: a lefty six ' five taller leader guy. He only
Speaker 3: got more tongue and small sample here. Seventeen games, seventy
Speaker 3: two played appearances, not totally new to me. A name
Speaker 3: that's totally new to me. I think he was fairly
Speaker 3: highly ranked by Perfect Game coming out of high school.
Speaker 3: Got I don't even know if NC State was the
Speaker 3: first school that he went to. I think he might
Speaker 3: have went somewhere else, but don't quote me on that,
Speaker 3: but I think, just like Power didn't really show up
Speaker 3: as much for a bigger guy like this. I don't
Speaker 3: think he hit a lot of home runs in college,
Speaker 3: but he did hit two in his short stint here.
Speaker 3: I think I shared some of the ex of velocities
Speaker 3: and stuff like that on the video. He can run
Speaker 3: a little bit. He's athletic. Well, his walk percentage was
Speaker 3: about ten percent, struck out twenty two percent of the time.
Speaker 3: But just like sort of just in game stuff that
Speaker 3: I liked to Like he slugged four forty four at
Speaker 3: ISO over zero point two. Just like the look of
Speaker 3: his swing. It's almost me like I'm taking another shot
Speaker 3: at like the Gavin Conticello hope, kind of similar, similar
Speaker 3: to but probably but probably more athletic than Constell. Like
Speaker 3: he may legitimately be able to play center field. We
Speaker 3: shall see. I saw I I on the video. Mat
Speaker 3: I shared a kind of a fun play. He hits
Speaker 3: this ball. It's I think it's like the bottom of
Speaker 3: the ninth or whatever, right or maybe even extra innings,
Speaker 3: And he hits this ball off the center field wall
Speaker 3: low and it takes this like really weird bounce. Evidently
Speaker 3: the camera doesn't get it. I think they were down
Speaker 3: by one. They send them and he's going around third
Speaker 3: trying and inside the parker. They call him out at
Speaker 3: home but I slowed down the replay and showed it
Speaker 3: and everything, and I don't think Homeboy was out.
Speaker 4: Oh that would have been a fun one.
Speaker 3: But he can he can move a little bit like
Speaker 3: the stroke. Hopefully it doesn't go the route of Contacello
Speaker 3: this year and the power doesn't really show up. But
Speaker 3: I think there's some some punch in there, so I
Speaker 3: don't we'll see maybe a later round, first year player,
Speaker 3: draft flyer and some deeply.
Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of a smooth looking swing. He's not been
Speaker 4: on my radar, so.
Speaker 3: I'll do third, all right. And I think I think
Speaker 3: Clegg gave him a fairly decent placement on his Mets
Speaker 3: list that he just came out with the other day.
Speaker 3: I know he was I know he was on there,
Speaker 3: which wasn't the case hasn't been the case with some
Speaker 3: of my other picks. I don't know how I feel
Speaker 3: about that.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I have not been keeping up with Cleggs lists,
Speaker 4: partly because I wanted to come into this exercise pretty
Speaker 4: pretty fresh, and partly just I haven't had as much
Speaker 4: time got to prioritize. Yeah, I ended up really liking
Speaker 4: the cyclones for the Mets this year, and maybe it
Speaker 4: was just like towards the end of the year that
Speaker 4: a few of these guys kind of surfaced for me.
Speaker 4: But I wanted to give a nod to Jesus Bias,
Speaker 4: who I think we've talked about before. He ended up
Speaker 4: in Brooklyn and still like a lot about what he's doing.
Speaker 4: I think there's still some significant upside there as a
Speaker 4: fairly exciting youngster. I also wanted to highlight Boston Borrow,
Speaker 4: who I think for the prospect heads out there, he's
Speaker 4: fairly well known. He was a relatively high dollar signing.
Speaker 4: I think he was committed to UCLA USC something like
Speaker 4: one of the LA schools. Ended up getting enticed into
Speaker 4: the draft with a pretty big overslot offer from the Mets,
Speaker 4: and I liked a lot about him and he was
Speaker 4: pretty close to being my pick. The thing with him
Speaker 4: that I'm a little worried the power isn't going to
Speaker 4: show up in any significant way ever. Like his swing,
Speaker 4: He's a left handed, kind of smooth swinging, pretty athletic
Speaker 4: looking third baseman, maybe played some second two. Fairly athletic
Speaker 4: looking guy. Swing reminds me a little bit of Christian Yelich,
Speaker 4: but I don't think he hits it nearly as hard
Speaker 4: as Yelich does, which holds him back a bit. If
Speaker 4: the power does show up and he remains still pretty young,
Speaker 4: I think he was nineteen this full year. If the
Speaker 4: power shows up, like he could be a pretty good
Speaker 4: second bateman, I think maybe maybe third baseman. But the power,
Speaker 4: it just had me questioning whether it's it's gonna show up.
Speaker 4: Just he's still really skinny. He's really just doesn't seem
Speaker 4: a ton of impact. But I like the swing, like
Speaker 4: the swing path, I like kind of the line drive approach.
Speaker 4: So he's one that I was pretty interested in but
Speaker 4: ended up shying away from due to the power. But
Speaker 4: the one of his teammates in h a I ended
Speaker 4: up really liking, and stop me if you've heard this before,
Speaker 4: because it's similar to another guy we talked about. He's
Speaker 4: sort of an really athletic for the position catcher in
Speaker 4: Christopher Swaow. He's got strong contact skills, swiped twenty bags
Speaker 4: this year, but also popped nine homers, threw in quite
Speaker 4: a few doubles, a few triples. Like he's a legit
Speaker 4: athletic catcher. There was one game that I watched where
Speaker 4: he got plunked in the dome, like just right straight
Speaker 4: to the helmet, like first pitch, fastball, right to the helmet.
Speaker 4: They like paused the game like hey, are you okay?
Speaker 4: He's like yeah, fine, still second base on the next pitch,
Speaker 4: which I love that kind of stuff, like screw you pitch,
Speaker 4: like you dumped me up and I'm next pitch steals
Speaker 4: the bag easy. I don't think it even got to
Speaker 4: throw off at because he had such a good, good read. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, he's still young, he's twenty. He made it
Speaker 4: up to high A. He's done nothing but hit in
Speaker 4: pro ball so far. So Christopher Squearrow, I'm pretty interested.
Speaker 4: There was one at Bad in particular, where somebody left
Speaker 4: a slider that caught too much of the plate. Like
Speaker 4: it wasn't, you know, hung or anything. It was just
Speaker 4: maybe a little bit caught a little too much of
Speaker 4: the plate on the outer half and a little bit
Speaker 4: too high, and swear Ow nuked this thing to left field,
Speaker 4: like showed some real power. I wish we'd had EV
Speaker 4: on that because it got way way out in Brooklyn,
Speaker 4: And that one was really kind of over my eyes. Like,
Speaker 4: I think there might be a bit more power there.
Speaker 3: That's not an easy place to hit either, right.
Speaker 4: It's not. So he hit well there and had a
Speaker 4: solid overall. Again, if the power were like a half
Speaker 4: grade better, I'd be way in Unswear just because the
Speaker 4: rest of it, Like he's got a really good plate approach,
Speaker 4: solid contact skills, and I'd be I'd be like hammering
Speaker 4: the go get this guy kind of thing. But the
Speaker 4: power is probably below average, so you're really looking at
Speaker 4: like maybe this is a multi category producing catcher. And
Speaker 4: I didn't see enough of his defense to really have
Speaker 4: an opinion about whether he's going to stick there. But
Speaker 4: but yeah, Christopher Swerrow I liked. I liked a lot
Speaker 4: about him. And there were quite a few of these
Speaker 4: guys in Brooklyn in particular and in the Mets system
Speaker 4: overall that there's something interesting about them. Yeah, but Swear
Speaker 4: is my B side guy this year.
Speaker 3: I like it. I don't know if I got anywhere
Speaker 3: with this, but I was looking around because he's I
Speaker 3: think he's from the US, but he was an international
Speaker 3: free agent.
Speaker 4: Saw this when I was doing some research on him.
Speaker 4: But he was like a pretty big prospect in the Northeast,
Speaker 4: like did some Tmusa stuff. I think maybe that's where
Speaker 4: I first saw him, and then he went to the
Speaker 4: Dominican or something to reclassify as or maybe Puerto Rico.
Speaker 4: I forget, but he yeah, he reclassified and signed internationally.
Speaker 3: I think they had him playing a little bit of
Speaker 3: left field in some first base as well. Ye, yeah, no,
Speaker 3: I like that. I think I was just trying to
Speaker 3: stay away from taking catchers this year. I was really
Speaker 3: challenging myself, so I think that was the main reason
Speaker 3: why I kind of stayed away from swear. But I
Speaker 3: dig that, all right, Matt, my Phillies bat again. Probably
Speaker 3: not very shocking or surprising with my Phillies calls this year,
Speaker 3: But I'm going with Otto Kemp naturally.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean we've been we were talking about him this
Speaker 3: season a little bit. Yeah, he's making some noise in
Speaker 3: the AFL. Has been pretty hot. Most interesting to me,
Speaker 3: as Clegg and I have been pointing out in the
Speaker 3: discord of latest he's hitting some hard hit balls in
Speaker 3: the air, which was something I was wondering about and
Speaker 3: skeptical that he would do much. Now, of course, this
Speaker 3: is just Arizona. A couple of weeks, so I'm not
Speaker 3: going to make too big of a deal about it.
Speaker 3: So he started off in a ball made it all
Speaker 3: the way up to Triple A. He hit sixteen home
Speaker 3: runs over the course of that season. The majority of
Speaker 3: them were while in Double A. If I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 3: and reading is a very hitter friendly home run friend
Speaker 3: that it is. So that gets me a little bit
Speaker 3: skeptical about his home run potential here. But he'll steal
Speaker 3: some bases. He had twenty bags over that, like we've
Speaker 3: talked about. I think he's perhaps potentially kind of like
Speaker 3: the demographic profile that you like of a guy who
Speaker 3: could do a little bit of everything. He can play
Speaker 3: in the dirt, he can play in a couple spots,
Speaker 3: hit for average, perhaps hit for a little bit of power,
Speaker 3: steal some bases. Undrafted free agent twenty twenty two. Undrafted
Speaker 3: free agent out of a D two school in California.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think he's definitely turned some heads and
Speaker 3: I think he's a bona fide potential big leaguer who
Speaker 3: was rostered at zero percent in September.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is a co sign for me as well.
Speaker 4: I figured it would be. There were a couple other
Speaker 4: guys in the system that we can touch on, but
Speaker 4: just to give my two cents on Auto Camp, I
Speaker 4: think he's got a shot to be a big league
Speaker 4: regular second baseman. I question whether he's going to get
Speaker 4: to the power that you might need out of a
Speaker 4: third baseman, like a first division regular third baseman, but
Speaker 4: he could play as a fifteen homer fifteen steel guy
Speaker 4: at second base with solid contact skills. I really like
Speaker 4: his swing. I think that he's super balanced from the
Speaker 4: right hand side. He's another guy that gets to a
Speaker 4: lot of doubles power but has athletic enough to kind
Speaker 4: of beat out some infield hits and hits line drives.
Speaker 4: I actually really like his battleball profile. And I know
Speaker 4: that you and Clegg have been kind of going back
Speaker 4: and forth about he needs to hit more flyballs, and
Speaker 4: I'm not sure that that's his game.
Speaker 3: But to me, it wasn't so much like volume wise,
Speaker 3: just because we got a little bit of like stack
Speaker 3: cast stuff with him in Triple A and a ball.
Speaker 3: You know, Son, stackass as hard as hit balls, and
Speaker 3: I went back and would watch the video album more.
Speaker 3: It also just gives you the description it was like
Speaker 3: his up there ninety percent of most of that stuff
Speaker 3: was in in the ground. Yeah, and you know, he
Speaker 3: hit one hundred and two mile per hour home run
Speaker 3: or whatever, which is fine. But what I think has
Speaker 3: been a little bit noteworthy noteworthy of this AFL is
Speaker 3: he's hit some home runs one hundred and ten and
Speaker 3: he hadn't done that. He had done that all year.
Speaker 4: So I do think that that's an area where if
Speaker 4: his ground ball rate ticks up like it did at
Speaker 4: Triple A in the kind of small sample, that could
Speaker 4: get him in trouble because he doesn't do enough of
Speaker 4: the other things, like really really well to kind of
Speaker 4: cement a spot. One thing I did note he was
Speaker 4: one triple shy of hitting ten triples this year to
Speaker 4: go along with twenty some doubles, what was it, sixteen
Speaker 4: homers and twenty swiping twenty bags Like that's that is
Speaker 4: super rare that you get double digits across all of
Speaker 4: those hit types and he was just one triple shy
Speaker 4: of doing that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I like Auto Kemp a lot. I think he's going
Speaker 4: to be a big league regular for a few years
Speaker 4: at least, which is a great outcome for this kind
Speaker 4: of a pop up guy who nobody was on out
Speaker 4: of a Division two school, so and he big thumbs
Speaker 4: up on Autokemp.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was kind of he was doing some
Speaker 3: loud things in a ball like obviously earlier this year,
Speaker 3: I wanted to watch, you know, TJ and uh, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm like, who's this Kemp guy hitting some home runs
Speaker 3: and doing whatever? And you know, you gotta be careful
Speaker 3: sometimes you're like, oh, he's twenty three, twenty four in
Speaker 3: a ball like well, by the end of the year
Speaker 3: he was totally age appropriate, you know, all that stuff.
Speaker 3: And I like his splits. We're pretty decent this year.
Speaker 3: I'm nothing too concerning there, man, I think and we could,
Speaker 3: like I think Clegg mentioned we could see him in
Speaker 3: the big relatively soon, I think. And this seems like
Speaker 3: a great B side sort of free pick up in
Speaker 3: a thirty two in like points league or even rot
Speaker 3: oh or whatever an only league like now, keep an
Speaker 3: eye out or shoot take him in your in your
Speaker 3: supplemental draft if you if you want a little infield depth,
Speaker 3: and shuffle him back and forth if need be in
Speaker 3: your league allows that, Like, yeah, I think I think
Speaker 3: Kemp is super interesting, dirty muddy potential fantasy asset.
Speaker 4: Here, yep, I agreed. I think there's a couple of
Speaker 4: other interesting guys and this is some worth shutting out
Speaker 4: the season that Carson Taylor had. I'm not like on
Speaker 4: Carson Taylor as a big league regular. I don't think
Speaker 4: he's gonna catch or break through as a first baseman
Speaker 4: that way. But he had a really good year and
Speaker 4: walking a ton, hitting for decent power, not striking out much.
Speaker 4: So I just want to give a hat tip to him.
Speaker 4: That was a super impressive year. And even Keaton Anthony
Speaker 4: I liked a lot of what I saw from him too.
Speaker 4: It wasn't flashy again, not a lot of power, and
Speaker 4: I think he basically only played first base. But every
Speaker 4: time I watch that team of fair amount and every
Speaker 4: time where was he in? Reading a bit and the
Speaker 4: fight and fills what's their hi? A film?
Speaker 3: It's oh, hia is a Jersey Shore?
Speaker 4: Jersey Shore?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Blue Claws, Yeah yeah. So I watched him
Speaker 4: a bit there too, and he I don't know, he
Speaker 4: had a really smooth approach I always thought at the
Speaker 4: plate and didn't strike out a lot, which I am
Speaker 4: biased a bit towards that. I wonder if maybe it's
Speaker 4: worth it for him to trade a bit of that
Speaker 4: contact skills for a little bit more power. Like he's
Speaker 4: a guy that maybe if he does some off season
Speaker 4: training with the tread or getting the bat speed up,
Speaker 4: that might He's the kind of guy that if you
Speaker 4: see some reports around that, like, I might be really
Speaker 4: interested and watch his first couple of weeks pretty closely,
Speaker 4: just because he does the rest of the hitting part
Speaker 4: really really well. If he strikes out like twenty two
Speaker 4: percent of the time, but now a ISO was like
Speaker 4: two hundred, that could be a big league first baseman.
Speaker 4: But as is, he's in interesting contact oriented first baseman,
Speaker 4: which tough path to walk to the bigs. But maybe
Speaker 4: there's more in there, Like he's got a good frame
Speaker 4: and everything too.
Speaker 3: Undrafted free agent out of Iowa in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's at first base, right right handed first
Speaker 3: base sort of yeah thing, But yeah, I mean, can
Speaker 3: he can swing at some for sure? They got a
Speaker 3: couple of former b side Marcus Lee saying is doing
Speaker 3: some things in Triple A, playing some center field. He
Speaker 3: was a little interesting.
Speaker 4: I got Buddy Kennedy. I can't quit him. I love
Speaker 4: that guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but yeah, the Phillies are always interesting, man,
Speaker 3: in my opinion these days, on both sides, arms and bats,
Speaker 3: they always got some guys, all right, Matt, we're always
Speaker 3: saving the best for last year. Huh.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The Washington Nationals, they've got plenty of good young prospects.
Speaker 3: It's just when you get get to these levels. I
Speaker 3: don't know, man. I think my least favorite bat that
Speaker 3: I picked, I don't even really have any good reasons
Speaker 3: other than he was very young and playing in full season.
Speaker 3: He's got his dad was a major leaguer, and like,
Speaker 3: it's not like reasons to love a prospect, but you go,
Speaker 3: that's where I'm at with this organization, and there they're
Speaker 3: zero to like one percenters. But I was gonna go
Speaker 3: with Rafael Ramirez Junior. His dad was shortstop for the
Speaker 3: Braves for quite a while. And then I don't know
Speaker 3: if you were playing fantasy back when he was a shortstop,
Speaker 3: but that just reminds me of like how horrible shortstop
Speaker 3: was for fantasy. When I first started playing, it was
Speaker 3: like one or two guys, and then after that it
Speaker 3: was like Rafael Ramirez, yeah, whatever else. But Ramirez came
Speaker 3: over from a trade in Cleveland. I don't even remember.
Speaker 3: I think I put in the video or something, but
Speaker 3: I don't remember what the trade was he. I mean,
Speaker 3: his numbers were awful. Combined his two A ball stops
Speaker 3: with both teams hit like one eighty three, two ninety nine,
Speaker 3: three oh six. I think two of his three home
Speaker 3: runs were broad broadcast. One was awful. One I got
Speaker 3: a good look at. I don't think he's a shortstop.
Speaker 3: I think he's maybe a second basement and I think
Speaker 3: it's because I think he's got like a noodle arm.
Speaker 3: Honestly saw him have to make some throws from deep
Speaker 3: shortstop and stuff, and it was I mean it was rough.
Speaker 3: But he's very young. Maybe he's got a chance. I
Speaker 3: can't say that he's totally done for or anything like that,
Speaker 3: and I don't know. It's interesting to me that the
Speaker 3: Guardians had him like starting off the season and playing
Speaker 3: in a ball They got a lot of good young
Speaker 3: guys that could be playing up the middle for them,
Speaker 3: So I thought that was a little bit interesting. And
Speaker 3: who knows the way that the Nats roll because of
Speaker 3: his name. Maybe you see him in the futures game
Speaker 3: and he really probably doesn't deserve to be there. But
Speaker 3: maybe that gilds popularity, but that's it. That's all I
Speaker 3: gotta say. I didn't have I didn't have any any
Speaker 3: guys I really liked here, So throw him out there.
Speaker 4: Surprised we weren't gonna go for is he pineda again
Speaker 4: after his sixteen WRSC plus this year, you weren't going
Speaker 4: to go back to that well for a third time.
Speaker 3: No, No, the man he made the big leagues like that,
Speaker 3: he did. I didn't pay much attention to him this year.
Speaker 3: The Hope boy. They had to have been like hurt
Speaker 3: or something like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he only got like half a year.
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, something right there. Plus man catchers man
Speaker 3: so so volatile.
Speaker 4: Yeah for sure. Yeah, I mean, I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 4: Rafael Ramirez Junior. I owned him when he was with
Speaker 4: Cleveland on a couple of teams, I think, And I think,
Speaker 4: oh really, I think Cleig even had had shouted him
Speaker 4: out as a potentially exciting full season guy either coming
Speaker 4: into this year or something, and so I was like
Speaker 4: holding on in a couple of places and hadn't watched
Speaker 4: him much. But then I watched some of them this
Speaker 4: year because the stats weren't ticking up and I was like,
Speaker 4: I think, you know, roster crunches whatever. I think I
Speaker 4: ended up cutting him loose in a couple of places
Speaker 4: I had him.
Speaker 3: I brik out the time. Well, let's not talk about
Speaker 3: him anymore. This is not worth it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and my my b side pick here isn't great either,
Speaker 4: Like my notes on this guy are. I don't think
Speaker 4: he's going to make it as a regular, but there's
Speaker 4: something here in the uppers that maybe he carves out
Speaker 4: as a below average fringy guy. Philip Glasser is my guy.
Speaker 4: You know, he played some second, some third, little bit
Speaker 4: of outfield too, you know, so so some utility almost
Speaker 4: in three hundreds.
Speaker 3: A little bit about him. Yeah, and he just got added.
Speaker 3: He just started playing a little bit in the AFL.
Speaker 3: Just oh I didn't see that, Okay, Yeah, he just
Speaker 3: got like added to whatever team. Nice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he almost hit three hundred. He was honestly pretty
Speaker 4: close to having a four hundred on base. I like
Speaker 4: his plate discipline skills, definitely good contact, but I think
Speaker 4: he makes pretty good swing decisions too. Has a bit
Speaker 4: of a hand rock, you know, he kind of starts
Speaker 4: his hands like almost in front of his face, not
Speaker 4: quite Luis Kempensano in San Diego, not quite like, but
Speaker 4: has some resemblance to that from the left side, and
Speaker 4: you know, he gets some back, but I feel like
Speaker 4: there might be some more impact in there if he
Speaker 4: got rid of that like weird rock thing. But his
Speaker 4: contact skills, like I said, are quite good. You know,
Speaker 4: he only struck out fourteen percent of the time this
Speaker 4: year made it up to double a. Yeah, only eight homers,
Speaker 4: but he did pop twenty three doubles, so it's like
Speaker 4: more gap to gap power Again. He looks to me
Speaker 4: more like a light hitting utility guy who maybe he
Speaker 4: plays decent enough defense that he'll accumulate a little bit
Speaker 4: of PA's and the bigs. But I wasn't blown away
Speaker 4: by this. He's in the bottom ten percent probably of
Speaker 4: B side hitter selections. For me, I just think, like,
Speaker 4: maybe he makes it, but if he does, there's not
Speaker 4: going to be a calling card. You know, he's swiped
Speaker 4: twenty three bags, but I didn't think that he was
Speaker 4: like particularly good at it. So anyway, I'm not super
Speaker 4: sold on him. This NAT's B side system has been
Speaker 4: tough for us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, And I kind of had a feeling
Speaker 3: that you would go with Glasser, So that's kind of
Speaker 3: why I crossed him off, because I didn't want Glasser
Speaker 3: to be a guy that we both Yeah, fair Go
Speaker 3: signed down because I didn't think it was that good.
Speaker 4: I agree with that, I love, I didn't love a
Speaker 4: lot of other options in our range, and Frankly at
Speaker 4: the high end too. You know, I'm a little bit
Speaker 4: of a stinker about some of their bats, but yeah,
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 3: I did almost go with Sam Peterson, yeah, my eighth round,
Speaker 3: and I'm a little bit familiar with him from college.
Speaker 3: But there, well, there was like seven games he didn't
Speaker 3: really do anything, and I was just like.
Speaker 4: Some bags showed the speed, which I watched a couple
Speaker 4: of those. But no, he was. He was on my
Speaker 4: short list, and I think Frankly probably is a better
Speaker 4: upside pick than Glasser, but we just got to see more.
Speaker 4: So he was more of a like, let's keep an
Speaker 4: eye on Peterson.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there wasn't even like anything to like make a
Speaker 3: good video with with Peterson highlight. But yeah, the Nats
Speaker 3: not really our most exciting place to mud the last
Speaker 3: couple of years. Matt. Yeah, but Glassroom a mirror as
Speaker 3: both zero percent as they probably should be although I
Speaker 3: think classer maybe falling more into that potential thirty team
Speaker 3: or like guy, it might get you some AB's relatively soon. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm Matt, is that did we run through twenty guys?
Speaker 3: Do we do it?
Speaker 4: I think we did? First off season B side pod
Speaker 4: in the books? Is this like season two for us?
Speaker 4: We're gonna do seasons?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're kicking off season two. What else are we
Speaker 3: going to do in the off season? Man, talk about
Speaker 3: some potential losers potentially now losers.
Speaker 4: Maybe get some sleep at some point.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you hanging out with us, came through some
Speaker 3: of this. Some of these guys are gonna are gonna
Speaker 3: get more popular, Like that's just gonna happen. Some of
Speaker 3: them we may never speak of again. Who knows?
Speaker 4: We'll always speak of them again? Will if only to
Speaker 4: throw it in each other's face that we made such
Speaker 4: terrible picks.
Speaker 3: That's true, but I will. I think last year, even
Speaker 3: though it wasn't the most maybe the most fruitful or
Speaker 3: as fruitful on the bat side that we wanted. I
Speaker 3: think at least the guys that were total stinkers, we
Speaker 3: kind of knew that they were probably going to be
Speaker 3: total stinkers. But nonetheless I like to go through every organization.
Speaker 3: It makes me really do my homework and pick one
Speaker 3: guy I guess throw it out there. All this kind
Speaker 3: of really stems from the question of like, hey, which
Speaker 3: guy from this org this list that you made made
Speaker 3: do you think might pop up this year? And these
Speaker 3: are my best stabs at it, These are our best
Speaker 3: stabs at it, I.
Speaker 4: Think so indeed, indeed.
Speaker 3: Maybe some of that will help you out. Maybe not,
Speaker 3: I don't know, but you can follow me on Twitter
Speaker 3: at pitching Specs. I'll be dropping videos of these ten guys,
Speaker 3: and then if I have some time, maybe I'll make
Speaker 3: video of some of that's guys and just give you
Speaker 3: a little visual to go along with that next time around.
Speaker 3: I don't think we've decided what division we're going to
Speaker 3: do next, but we'll do another one and do this
Speaker 3: five more times, maybe have a little bit of a
Speaker 3: draft sort of thing, and then we'll maybe get into
Speaker 3: some first year player stuff this offseason. That sound good?
Speaker 3: Love it?
Speaker 4: Love it?
Speaker 3: Right on? Well, thank you and be well. We'll talk
Speaker 3: to you next time.
Speaker 4: See you later.
Speaker 1: Five miles an hour riding to his head, he hopped
Speaker 1: down the first with the lump on his face, and
Speaker 1: on the very next pitch he up and stole second face.
Speaker 2: With gretest speed. He wasn't born. He had the dirty
Speaker 2: yes uniforn