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<v Speaker 1>Weary.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait being gangsters, war lords, monstrous, They're coming for us.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you scared? You should be.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now.

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<v Speaker 2>The Mandalorian and Grogu.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everyone, and welcome to the Culture Cast and the

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<v Speaker 1>Projection Booth. Another crossover. It's a new movie crossover. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the only time Mike and I ever talked outside of

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<v Speaker 1>Mike White. May I am one of your hosts. Christashue

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<v Speaker 1>of the Culture Cast.

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<v Speaker 2>Check out these abs, Chris. I've been working out for eons,

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<v Speaker 2>me and my big slug body.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the role of Rota the Hut. Mike White

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<v Speaker 1>of the Projection.

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<v Speaker 2>Both glad to be here. Chris. Thank you for agreeing

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<v Speaker 2>to do this so I can actually talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>Mandalorian Grogu with someone who's not a nerd.

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<v Speaker 1>I was about to say, I think yeah, No, I

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<v Speaker 1>was to say, what are you thanking me for?

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<v Speaker 3>This was your idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I was not gonna watch this movie. I had checked

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<v Speaker 1>out of The Mandalorian and Grogu. Frankly, I had checked

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<v Speaker 1>out of Star Wars about the same time Mandalorian in

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<v Speaker 1>the Mandalorian the TV show came in, So this would

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<v Speaker 1>have been like one of the few Star Wars things

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<v Speaker 1>that would still get me to the theaters as it

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<v Speaker 1>were to watch it. But on this episode of the

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<v Speaker 1>Projection Booth Slash the Culture cast we are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be talking about. Twenty twenty six is John Favreau directed

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<v Speaker 1>feature length film question Mark, The Mandalorian and grogu. So

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<v Speaker 1>the film is written and well, it's written by Jon Favreau,

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Filonian, Noah Klore and it's directed by John Favreau

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Stars Pedro Pascal as the Mandalorian. Well Latif

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<v Speaker 1>Crowder probably more importantly as the Mandalorian. Pedro Pascal does

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<v Speaker 1>the voice. Jeremy Allen White's also in the film as

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<v Speaker 1>a giant slug. We also have Brendan Wayn and like

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned, Latif Crowder playing the Mandalorian in the suit anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny quaint Any.

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<v Speaker 2>Pleased during the stunts. There's also Brendan Wayne who also

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<v Speaker 2>is in the suit.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we have Martin Scorsese, who you know they

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what they did to get him in this,

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<v Speaker 1>and Sigourney Weaver's there. Because everything comes to full circle

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<v Speaker 1>of the world of sci fi, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so curious because you wanted to talk about this film,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm never going to say no to an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about films with you. Why why the Mandalorian

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<v Speaker 1>and Grogu? Why why did we spend our hardened Republic

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<v Speaker 1>credits to go see The Mandalorian and Grogu?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, because I think The Mandalorian is probably one of

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<v Speaker 2>the least offensive of the Star Wars properties that they've

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<v Speaker 2>had over the last five six years. I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>remember when it first came out. Was that twenty nineteen, right.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a little pre pandemic, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and I really enjoyed it. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 2>very well done, at least the first two seasons. I

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<v Speaker 2>really enjoyed third season definitely the Law of Diminishing Returns.

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<v Speaker 2>And also there was a couple episodes hidden within Book

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<v Speaker 2>of Boba Fet. Those were the best episodes of the

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<v Speaker 2>Book of Boba Fet. I like this idea of this

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<v Speaker 2>kind of western in space, which the original Star Wars

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<v Speaker 2>seemed to really play with. I mean, westerns and Samurai

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<v Speaker 2>film are very similar. I mean, look at fistful of

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<v Speaker 2>Dollars in Yo Jimbo. But really that whole idea of

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<v Speaker 2>the stranger coming to town kind of thing is just yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a trope, but it really plays out well in

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<v Speaker 2>both of those genres, and this kind of sci fi

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<v Speaker 2>version of that that was very well done. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the whole idea of the Mandalorian and his ward Grogu.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Lone Wolf and Cub. So I love Lone Wolf

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<v Speaker 2>and Cub and all of the adventures that Ogami Eto

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<v Speaker 2>and Daggo get into. This was somewhat similar. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I just enjoyed the TV show and then yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>figured why not. And plus I was definitely going to

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<v Speaker 2>go see The Mandalorian and Grogu because I would watch

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<v Speaker 2>The Mandalorian sometimes with my oldest granddaughter. She was very

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<v Speaker 2>into Grogu, and so when the movie was coming out,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, let's go see it. So it was the

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<v Speaker 2>to the theater and see, because I don't think she

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<v Speaker 2>saw any of the sequels, prequels, Rogue One Solo, any

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<v Speaker 2>of that stuff, so this was her first exposure. Thought

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<v Speaker 2>it was a nice, non offensive way to get into

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<v Speaker 2>Star Wars. But I'm curious, Chris, what did you think

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<v Speaker 2>of the Mandalorian then grow good?

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<v Speaker 1>So I watched the first and second season The Mandalorian

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<v Speaker 1>I checked out when it was like and now Luke

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh, man, like that was rough. I'm good.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was the end of the second season, so

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, I'm good. I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>need to continue on with this story anymore of this

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<v Speaker 1>is where we're headed. And then never watched Book a

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<v Speaker 1>Boba fet kind of again, have not watched a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the animated stuff either, where I know one of

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<v Speaker 1>the characters in this film comes from Several of the

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<v Speaker 1>characters in this film come from from the animated source material.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess Clone Wars and Rebels, I'm assuming, and I

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<v Speaker 2>Cards on the table. I never watched any of those either.

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<v Speaker 1>I've done like base amount of Wookie PDIA research, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for me, a lot of these characters are coming

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<v Speaker 2>out of the Ralph mcquarie drawings. So there's the I

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<v Speaker 2>guess he's blue and looks like a werewolf. And I

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<v Speaker 2>know that was the original draft of Chewbacca all those

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, right, I know he was probably in one

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<v Speaker 1>He's the one from rep He's the one from Rebels. Okay, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>zeb Is from Rebels.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, and then I think he showed up in

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<v Speaker 2>one episode of The Mandalorian and don't ask me which season,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're right as well, which I mean again

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<v Speaker 1>like it's fun to tie those things in, because for me,

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<v Speaker 1>Mandalorian and Grogu, I think is the perfect film that

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<v Speaker 1>you talked about just now, A perfect film for an

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<v Speaker 1>adult my age or your age to take a child

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen or younger. I think it's a perfect film for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Beyond beyond that, I think there's a lot of questions

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<v Speaker 1>that we have about the reason to make Star Wars

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<v Speaker 1>movies anymore. There's an interesting discussion to be had there

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm sure we'll talk about that has more or

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<v Speaker 1>less not very little to do with the film, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's part of this discussion I think about Star Wars

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<v Speaker 1>in general, and it always comes up whenever we talk

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<v Speaker 1>that much. I'm not that big of a fan of

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<v Speaker 1>Star Wars anymore. I was when I was a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved Star Wars. I was there with everybody else

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<v Speaker 1>my age seeing those remastered films. I went completely ape

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<v Speaker 1>shit for Phantom Menace. I am one of those people

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<v Speaker 1>that will actually go out on a limb and say

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<v Speaker 1>that I think the prequels are slightly better than those

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<v Speaker 1>sequel film because again, I at least they were made

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<v Speaker 1>by George Lucas for good and for bad, and they

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<v Speaker 1>weren't made by a committee of people who don't know

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<v Speaker 1>just those other days. Again, we go back to the George.

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<v Speaker 1>George Lucas never would have had Palpatine come back to life,

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<v Speaker 1>and especially not in Fortnite of it All. So I've

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fallen out with Star Wars. But for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the thing that I will say about this

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<v Speaker 1>movie specifically, it's perfectly fine as an episode of the

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<v Speaker 1>Mandalorian and Grogu the show. Like it's just a it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a feature length episode. They literally do nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>make it anything less than that. And you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>if you go looking for a film about the Mandalorian

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<v Speaker 1>and Grogu and their continued adventures, this more or less

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<v Speaker 1>checks all the boxes. So I'm not upset. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if this needed to be a movie.

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<v Speaker 1>That's more my takeaway. I enjoyed it, I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how much I needed this to be a movie,

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<v Speaker 1>because it does just feel like I'm not saying you

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<v Speaker 1>could have put it on Disney Plus much. You could

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<v Speaker 3>Like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed it though. It's fine. It's perfectly serviceable as

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<v Speaker 1>a Star Wars movie, and frankly, in a lot of ways,

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<v Speaker 1>it's better than some of the other Star Wars movies

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<v Speaker 1>that aren't Skywalker movies that we've gotten. Namely, I would

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<v Speaker 1>say that this is better than Solo. I would say

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<v Speaker 1>that this has more charm than Rogue One.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it doesn't take much to have more charm than

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<v Speaker 2>Rogue one, just not at least there's no reanimated corpses

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<v Speaker 2>in this one, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Far as or Luke Skywalker cameos. Of these, I'm CGI cameos.

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<v Speaker 1>There are no CGI cameos.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that Princess Leah one in Rogue One is rough.

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<v Speaker 2>Grandma f Tarken is really rough. I know some people

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<v Speaker 2>hold that up as this amazing thing, and I'm like, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>it looks awful. It looks like someone walked out of

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<v Speaker 2>a video game and is there with all of these

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<v Speaker 2>live action actors. It was really rough. Yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 2>so I remember going to see the I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was like the maybe it was like the seventh, eighth, ninth, tenth,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe Star Trek films, like not First Contact, but like

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<v Speaker 2>all of the other ones, especially something like Insurrection, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like the f Marie Abraham Well, and I'm just like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>well this was it wasn't good, but it was. It

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<v Speaker 2>was decent, and I was like, this is basically a

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<v Speaker 2>couple episodes of the show. It actually wasn't it. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was Insurrection was not that Insurrection, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>the one where they're watching people from Afar.

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<v Speaker 3>That insurrection yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, with that f free Abraham with the stretched

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<v Speaker 1>back face and they're like hiding behind like the camouflage

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<v Speaker 1>like towers and stuff. Yeah, has three different things going

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<v Speaker 1>out because remember then they have like the thing out

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<v Speaker 1>in space that they fight on as well, because yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but a mess, I mean everything other than First

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<v Speaker 2>Contact for me, all of those ones, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't like the one with young with the young young,

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<v Speaker 1>young young young Tom Hardy pretending to be Patrick Stewart.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I thought that was the one with f.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's Nemesis, that's the one that starts with like,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like it's just another day at Starfleet, and

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<v Speaker 1>then by the end of it spoilers, data is dead.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, geez, all those films.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what they say, Mike, We've got nothing

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<v Speaker 1>but time, and we could just rewatch all those Star

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<v Speaker 1>Trek movies because man, okay, no, what's the Avengers?

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<v Speaker 3>Though, Well, you look at.

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<v Speaker 2>Something like that, and then you look at something like,

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<v Speaker 2>for me, Serenity the Firefly movie, and I'm not a

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<v Speaker 2>big fan. Yes I'm not a big fan of Firefly

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<v Speaker 2>the show, but I really like Serenity the movie, and

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<v Speaker 2>that takes the material and kind of elevates it. It

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the storylines. That also leaves room for more

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<v Speaker 2>if they ever come back, or if Nathan Fillion just

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<v Speaker 2>wants to tease us about other shit that isn't that

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, Okay, yeah, this was really good. Mandalorian and

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<v Speaker 2>it than the Serenity of it, and just saying like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this is good. This is a couple episodes worth of

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<v Speaker 2>the Mandalorian and Grogu. Maybe this is your season finale.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's the way that you start off the season

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<v Speaker 2>two episodes, two bangers, just coming out here, bing bang,

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<v Speaker 2>hours and thirteen minutes or whatever and said, Okay, here

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, yeah, it's like, okay, well, you know, here's

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<v Speaker 2>all this stuff. Here's this other assignment, and you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>things got a little complicated. I mean, it's it's very

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<v Speaker 2>He could have let rot a rot all these kind

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<v Speaker 2>characters that I'm not familiar with, brought back characters that

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<v Speaker 2>apparently other people are familiar with, brought back characters that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm familiar with from the TV show I was very

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<v Speaker 2>surprised at certain people like an Amy s Darris wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, Carl Weathers isn't coming back unless they do

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<v Speaker 2>a horrible post life resurrection of Carl Weathers for his character.

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<v Speaker 2>I was actually kind of surprised that Ted Baane wasn't back.

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<v Speaker 2>He might have died in the show. I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 2>But there was one guy who, I mean, he's probably

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<v Speaker 2>who had the big disc hat very the three brothers

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<v Speaker 2>from Lone Wolf and Cub two. Like, I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure he's somebody, just someone. Someone loves him, someone

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<v Speaker 2>when he was sick. And now he's the bad guy

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<v Speaker 2>in this episode and does a pretty good job, better

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<v Speaker 2>than the two Huts who are just kind of there

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<v Speaker 1>I do believe cad Bane was killed in the Book

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, you could. You could tell me anything about

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<v Speaker 2>the Book of Bulb of Fat and as long as

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<v Speaker 2>you said. And then he goes back to the back

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<v Speaker 2>to tank, I would believe you.

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<v Speaker 3>I still haven't seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I remember that was one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that happened in the show that didn't help because people

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<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, and again I don't know where he's from,

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<v Speaker 2>like he showed up or people are just like yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they're like people are losing their mind, and I'm like, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>To be fair, I just assume if you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what it's from, it's from the cartoon, essentially, because none

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<v Speaker 1>of the video game stuff has ever really made it screen. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, like, nothing is really every Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not really. Now, dash Rendar was ever in anything, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was the one that was in Shadows of the Empire. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>she's or no, none of those characters, like Thron is

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<v Speaker 1>a book character more than he is anything else. I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and you know, you put an athlete like

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<v Speaker 1>it is a episode of the show, or a season

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<v Speaker 1>of the show, or maybe like a half season arc

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<v Speaker 1>of the show boiled.

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<v Speaker 3>Down into a movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, if that's the way we're gonna do it from

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<v Speaker 1>now on, all right, I guess, I guess. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what what is more unnecessary than any more TV

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<v Speaker 1>or any more movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they that's the question. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>feels like the movies are kind of superfluous at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean because the TV show with the and I

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<v Speaker 2>will say the third season, I was just not a

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<v Speaker 2>fan of the whole thing, the whole and I forget

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<v Speaker 2>her name, Boctan, maybe the Katie Sackoff character. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>give a shit about any of the things that she

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't give a shit about Lizzo's character or Jack Black,

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<v Speaker 2>Like none of those stories really compelled me.

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<v Speaker 3>What I forgot about that Mike Oh yeah, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Just it wasn't gripping me at all. And it really

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<v Speaker 2>felt like it kind of became the Boca Tan Show.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, no, I signed up for Mandalorin and Grogu.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't sign up for Boc Tan. It was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like when they sprung Luke Skywalker on us for

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<v Speaker 2>the end of one of the seasons. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need Skywalker in this. I just want the

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<v Speaker 2>Mandalorian and Grogu and their adventures. Maybe occasionally we can

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<v Speaker 2>go off and meet some other people, and yeah, Bok

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<v Speaker 2>Tank can show up and do her thing and whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't need a whole fucking season of that, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just done with that. I just want these two

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<v Speaker 2>characters and their adventures, please.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess for me, that's the thing about the

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<v Speaker 1>movie that it succeeds at the most is that it's

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<v Speaker 1>a Mandalorian in Grogu Store, yes, more or less all

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<v Speaker 1>the way through. Like, I didn't watch the third season

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<v Speaker 1>of The Mandalorian, so maybe you can fill me in

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<v Speaker 1>on this how much agency Grogu now has as a character, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>Grogu has a fair amount of agency as a character.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not just a little baby anymore. He's running around

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<v Speaker 1>doing things. You know, he saves Rod of the Hut

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the movie. You know, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a This is a character with a lot more agency

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<v Speaker 1>than the last time I saw him, I think, correct

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<v Speaker 1>me if I'm wrong. The end of the first season

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<v Speaker 1>him kind of having that agency a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>where he stops the laser bolts with Carl Weathers, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's I enjoyed that this movie is as advertised.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe a little too much, maybe a little too cutesy

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<v Speaker 1>and for kids, but at the same time, like Mandalorian

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<v Speaker 1>and Grogu.

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<v Speaker 3>Is for kids.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the it is I think the ultimate bridge to

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<v Speaker 1>Star Wars. It is like the Settlers of Katan of

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<v Speaker 1>movies for Star Wars. Like, this is what you would

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<v Speaker 1>show your kids if you had kids, or if I

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<v Speaker 1>had kids. You have grandkids, so there you go, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's a part like you wouldn't show them the prequels anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>You would show them this. You would show them because

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<v Speaker 1>Grogu is just they wouldn't care what the Mandalorian is

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<v Speaker 1>doing as long as Grogu is in every scene or

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<v Speaker 1>every other scene, because duh, it's Grogu and he's adorable.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing. It's like they they're still getting

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of mileage out of Grogu, even with someone

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<v Speaker 1>who's as cynical as I am. And we joked about it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know when this when Grogu first came a thing,

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<v Speaker 1>like I love Grogu just as much as anybody. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of again, like anything else, it's like almost like Mindians. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like Grogu was minionized in a way, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I've kind of fallen off on Grogu, but I found

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<v Speaker 1>myself reacting the way they wanted me to during the

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<v Speaker 1>movie when Grogu was doing things, so like even someone

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<v Speaker 1>who's the Cynicals meet can come back around on Grogu,

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<v Speaker 1>like I see the value. I see what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's obvious, it's very obvious.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's work.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if this movie's been imminently as financially

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<v Speaker 1>successful for them as they would like. But also looking

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<v Speaker 1>at the budget of this movie, I'm surprised it costs

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<v Speaker 1>that much because the CGI in this movie is not good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Disney movie.

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<v Speaker 2>My god, Yeah, what did you not like about the CGI?

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<v Speaker 1>I was not a fan of the way that the

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<v Speaker 1>huts look okay, which I think is fair right, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well they're not using puppets anymore. Really seemed to

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<v Speaker 2>take me to when George was throwing Jaba into Star

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<v Speaker 2>Wars a new hope and just again completely unnecessary, especially

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<v Speaker 2>since all of their dialogue is basically repeeded in another scene,

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<v Speaker 2>and that kind of reminded me of this film. There

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<v Speaker 2>are two early scenes with Rod of the Hut and

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<v Speaker 2>like we have Mando come in and Grogu's there and

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<v Speaker 2>he's talking with Ratta and Rather's just like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good. I you know, I'm always under the shadow

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<v Speaker 2>of my father and and this is really giving me

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<v Speaker 2>agency and you know, I'm really happy here, and you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, I'm gonna win my next fight and then

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be a free man. And then maybe like

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<v Speaker 2>three four scenes later, they come back and they're talking

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<v Speaker 2>with Rada and he says, you know what, I have

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<v Speaker 2>always lived under the shadow of my father, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is kind of letting me be my own man, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna win that fight tomorrow and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>be free. And I'm like, hello, did you guys forget

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<v Speaker 2>like did you do a copy of paste? And absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>forget that you did that. There was just it was

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<v Speaker 2>so similar. I was like, Oh, we did not need

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<v Speaker 2>two scenes of this, We just needed one. We needed that,

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<v Speaker 2>or we needed two scenes that we needed scenes. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>we needed scenes to be a little different. So give

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<v Speaker 2>me something more about Rod of the Hut. There really

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't that much of his characterization, but the fight that

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<v Speaker 2>they have I absolutely love that, especially when Rada comes

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<v Speaker 2>in and Mando gets kind of tricked into being in

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<v Speaker 2>this fight, and he just screams he's super happy, and

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<v Speaker 2>he goes, I know him from work.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah? Boy?

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<v Speaker 1>They really just cop from their own stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>What I actually did like about that ladatorial scene and

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<v Speaker 2>was when they pulled back and I saw the markings

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<v Speaker 2>on the floor and the shape of the area that

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<v Speaker 2>they're in, and then when the other creatures got brought in,

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<v Speaker 2>I was just like, motherfucker, this is the chess game

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<v Speaker 2>from the Millennium Falcon. Like two or three of those

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<v Speaker 2>creatures are all from if not all of them, because

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<v Speaker 2>you're all.

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<v Speaker 3>From the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's crazy, because like you know, I mostly remember,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, the guy who picks up the little guy

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<v Speaker 2>with no head but his face is down between his

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<v Speaker 2>shoulders and he throws him down and does that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of thing. And I was just so happy, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was just like, oh, this is so great. Here's me

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<v Speaker 2>as a five year old seeing Star Wars for the

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<v Speaker 2>first time, and I'm so happy about these creatures are

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was okay, And I did like that they

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<v Speaker 2>all eventually escaped and went out and caused havoc. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, okay, good. I like when you know, people

420
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<v Speaker 2>that are running gladiatorial games get hoisted on their own

421
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<v Speaker 2>petart well.

422
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<v Speaker 1>And I like, I mean, obviously, I like that they're

423
00:21:40.599 --> 00:21:44.839
<v Speaker 1>paying homage to the original series, you know, the original film,

424
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<v Speaker 1>And I guess, you know, again we come back to

425
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<v Speaker 1>the idea of how much fan service do you need

426
00:21:50.039 --> 00:21:51.480
<v Speaker 1>to do in a film like this, and I think

427
00:21:51.480 --> 00:21:54.680
<v Speaker 1>that that's probably the right level of fan service for

428
00:21:54.799 --> 00:21:56.720
<v Speaker 1>me as a fan, Like I don't need you to

429
00:21:56.720 --> 00:21:58.759
<v Speaker 1>beat me over the head with him, No, really, I

430
00:21:58.799 --> 00:22:00.599
<v Speaker 1>really don't. I think that for me is like when

431
00:22:00.599 --> 00:22:03.839
<v Speaker 1>you've hit kind of like that perfect note of what

432
00:22:03.960 --> 00:22:06.680
<v Speaker 1>fan service can be, what fan service needs to be,

433
00:22:06.799 --> 00:22:09.279
<v Speaker 1>and what fan service should be. And I just don't

434
00:22:09.279 --> 00:22:10.799
<v Speaker 1>think it needs to get in the way. I don't

435
00:22:10.799 --> 00:22:12.480
<v Speaker 1>think they need to draw attention to it. But if

436
00:22:12.519 --> 00:22:15.160
<v Speaker 1>you're a fan of the series, or if you understand

437
00:22:15.160 --> 00:22:17.839
<v Speaker 1>the franchise and have seen the franchise before, it will

438
00:22:18.039 --> 00:22:20.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I guess it'll increase your enjoyment by

439
00:22:20.200 --> 00:22:22.240
<v Speaker 1>maybe one percent, you know what I mean. It's not

440
00:22:22.319 --> 00:22:25.519
<v Speaker 1>anything like of substantial value, but to your point, it's like,

441
00:22:25.559 --> 00:22:27.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you've been a fan of this franchise

442
00:22:27.720 --> 00:22:30.079
<v Speaker 1>for a long time, then you are going to appreciate

443
00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:32.279
<v Speaker 1>some of the things that the film does, including you

444
00:22:32.319 --> 00:22:34.640
<v Speaker 1>know that that fight scene. For sure, I do like

445
00:22:34.680 --> 00:22:37.160
<v Speaker 1>that we get to see like where Java's from. Never

446
00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:39.960
<v Speaker 1>got to see that before in any capacity as a

447
00:22:40.039 --> 00:22:43.640
<v Speaker 1>fan of the shows, I'm sure they've gone there before,

448
00:22:43.759 --> 00:22:45.759
<v Speaker 1>given that Rot of the Hut is like a character

449
00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:49.039
<v Speaker 1>that's shown up and the animated series effectively went everywhere.

450
00:22:49.279 --> 00:22:52.119
<v Speaker 1>But as someone who's only ever watched the movies, I'm

451
00:22:52.160 --> 00:22:54.279
<v Speaker 1>glad that that's now somewhere that we've gotten to see

452
00:22:54.319 --> 00:22:56.440
<v Speaker 1>in the movies as well. Like that's I don't know,

453
00:22:56.480 --> 00:22:59.400
<v Speaker 1>I like when they start expanding the universe because, like

454
00:22:59.440 --> 00:23:01.960
<v Speaker 1>you said, i'd I don't want any more Skywalker stuff.

455
00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:03.119
<v Speaker 3>I really don't care.

456
00:23:03.319 --> 00:23:06.119
<v Speaker 1>We talk about the Lord of the Rings TV show

457
00:23:06.160 --> 00:23:10.119
<v Speaker 1>on another podcast, and this series Star Wars has the

458
00:23:10.119 --> 00:23:12.559
<v Speaker 1>problem that that Lord of the Rings TV show does not,

459
00:23:12.640 --> 00:23:15.359
<v Speaker 1>which is they can't get out of like one hundred years.

460
00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:17.279
<v Speaker 1>There's like one hundred years that they're like stuck in

461
00:23:17.519 --> 00:23:20.160
<v Speaker 1>as if there's not all this time before and after

462
00:23:20.240 --> 00:23:22.519
<v Speaker 1>all of this. It's just they don't want to get

463
00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:24.799
<v Speaker 1>away from the things that they perceive to make the money,

464
00:23:24.839 --> 00:23:27.839
<v Speaker 1>which is the Skywalkers, I guess question mark.

465
00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah no, and a'll ties back to you know, either

466
00:23:30.519 --> 00:23:35.519
<v Speaker 2>Darth Vader or Luke Skywalker, so a version of a Skywalker.

467
00:23:35.559 --> 00:23:37.799
<v Speaker 2>I mean even when it came to though, I will

468
00:23:37.839 --> 00:23:41.559
<v Speaker 2>say maybe the only thing I liked about that, Oh gosh,

469
00:23:41.599 --> 00:23:44.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna scrip for a Noora was that her name,

470
00:23:45.039 --> 00:23:47.559
<v Speaker 2>the Brosario Dawson character.

471
00:23:47.680 --> 00:23:49.720
<v Speaker 3>She had a real Shoka Tana.

472
00:23:49.599 --> 00:23:53.559
<v Speaker 2>Ashoka, thank you, And I'm like, okay, yeah, Nora was

473
00:23:53.599 --> 00:23:57.599
<v Speaker 2>the movie that won the Oscar right, yeah, okay, yeah yeah.

474
00:23:57.680 --> 00:24:02.039
<v Speaker 2>But it's like when Annika Skywalker showed up in that show,

475
00:24:02.119 --> 00:24:04.240
<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, this is actually kind of enjoyable

476
00:24:04.279 --> 00:24:07.039
<v Speaker 2>and it's nice to see Hayden Christensen come back. But

477
00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:09.799
<v Speaker 2>that was about it, because that whole show was just

478
00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:14.319
<v Speaker 2>so fucking boring. And did you didn't part taking that one?

479
00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:14.839
<v Speaker 2>Did you? No?

480
00:24:15.599 --> 00:24:19.400
<v Speaker 1>I legitimately have not watched any Star Wars TV shows

481
00:24:19.440 --> 00:24:22.599
<v Speaker 1>other than Mandalorian season one and two. I have not

482
00:24:22.720 --> 00:24:25.119
<v Speaker 1>watched and or, much to the chagrin of some people

483
00:24:25.160 --> 00:24:27.240
<v Speaker 1>I know who keep telling me to watch it and

484
00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Ahsoka and stuff like that, Like I didn't watch the

485
00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:33.319
<v Speaker 1>Clone Wars, so it's just not something. I didn't watch

486
00:24:33.359 --> 00:24:35.359
<v Speaker 1>the Obi Wan Kenobi show either, which was something that

487
00:24:35.640 --> 00:24:38.359
<v Speaker 1>seemed like it would be right up my alley, and

488
00:24:38.400 --> 00:24:40.799
<v Speaker 1>then I heard it was just okay, and it was like,

489
00:24:41.039 --> 00:24:42.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't need to watch just okay.

490
00:24:42.359 --> 00:24:45.160
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, as the kids would say, it was mid. It

491
00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:46.200
<v Speaker 2>was very mid.

492
00:24:46.480 --> 00:24:49.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah it was us adults still say just okay. That

493
00:24:49.640 --> 00:24:52.119
<v Speaker 3>still means the same thing, right, Yeah.

494
00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:56.799
<v Speaker 2>Ahsoka was really bad. I mean the whole series is

495
00:24:57.200 --> 00:24:59.079
<v Speaker 2>we need to get to the other side of this

496
00:24:59.240 --> 00:25:02.559
<v Speaker 2>galaxy where Thron is. And then they get to the

497
00:25:02.640 --> 00:25:04.839
<v Speaker 2>other side of the galaxy and then they go, h

498
00:25:05.000 --> 00:25:05.559
<v Speaker 2>we need to.

499
00:25:05.480 --> 00:25:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Get back your Thron is in another castle.

500
00:25:08.440 --> 00:25:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well Thron was there, but yeah, it was bad.

501
00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:13.960
<v Speaker 2>And then you know, I'm never going to watch the

502
00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:16.039
<v Speaker 2>second season of it. And then Obi Wan.

503
00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:17.759
<v Speaker 3>Came over the second season of it.

504
00:25:18.039 --> 00:25:20.559
<v Speaker 2>No, I imagine they're going to do a second season

505
00:25:22.079 --> 00:25:24.480
<v Speaker 2>because it was a cliffhanger basically is how it ends.

506
00:25:24.559 --> 00:25:29.240
<v Speaker 2>Because after they take the space Whales to the other

507
00:25:29.319 --> 00:25:33.119
<v Speaker 2>side of the galaxy and no, you did not hear

508
00:25:33.200 --> 00:25:37.920
<v Speaker 2>me incorrectly, the space Whales take them there. After that, yeah,

509
00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:40.960
<v Speaker 2>they kind of end on the cliffhanger, and yeah, it

510
00:25:41.079 --> 00:25:45.559
<v Speaker 2>was man and then Ben Kenobi. I have no fucking idea.

511
00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:47.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't even remember what happened on that show. I

512
00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:51.000
<v Speaker 2>remember a lot of Sith that were trying to track

513
00:25:51.079 --> 00:25:55.160
<v Speaker 2>him down, including one guy who looked a lot like that,

514
00:25:55.960 --> 00:25:58.640
<v Speaker 2>the guy who they called a dildo. I think it

515
00:25:58.720 --> 00:26:01.319
<v Speaker 2>was in Mortal Kombat too. I think the character designs

516
00:26:01.359 --> 00:26:03.559
<v Speaker 2>on those the guy with the white face and the

517
00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:08.400
<v Speaker 2>big black eyebrows. Yeah, like that basically was the character

518
00:26:08.519 --> 00:26:11.319
<v Speaker 2>design of one of these Sith boards. Oh so hard

519
00:26:11.359 --> 00:26:12.359
<v Speaker 2>to take him seriously.

520
00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:15.839
<v Speaker 1>Oh the Grand Inquisitor, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, played by

521
00:26:15.880 --> 00:26:17.519
<v Speaker 1>the guy who played the hit Man in one of

522
00:26:17.559 --> 00:26:20.160
<v Speaker 1>those in the second hit Man movie. Uh, the one

523
00:26:20.160 --> 00:26:23.240
<v Speaker 1>that's not Timothy ola font. So there's been the Mandalorian,

524
00:26:23.319 --> 00:26:27.880
<v Speaker 1>the Book of Boba, fett Obi Wan Kenobi, and or Ahsoka.

525
00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:30.160
<v Speaker 1>There are two more. Do you remember those two? Did

526
00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:32.400
<v Speaker 1>you watch those two? Because those are the last two years.

527
00:26:32.559 --> 00:26:35.720
<v Speaker 2>So I didn't watch the one with the guy from

528
00:26:35.839 --> 00:26:40.880
<v Speaker 2>Squid Games Sins of the Empire, that's not what it's.

529
00:26:40.759 --> 00:26:44.359
<v Speaker 3>Called Skeleton Crew, Oh skeleton crew? Or no? Are you

530
00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:45.480
<v Speaker 3>talking about the Acolyte.

531
00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:48.039
<v Speaker 2>I was talking about the Acolyte. That's the one guy.

532
00:26:47.880 --> 00:26:50.480
<v Speaker 3>Has Darth Reeven or whatever.

533
00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:52.839
<v Speaker 1>It has, one of the people that they talked about

534
00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:55.319
<v Speaker 1>a million times in all the prequel stuff, and he

535
00:26:55.839 --> 00:26:57.599
<v Speaker 1>shows up for like two seconds in one.

536
00:26:57.480 --> 00:27:01.039
<v Speaker 3>Of the episodes. Sure, sure, right, exactly.

537
00:27:01.799 --> 00:27:05.119
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I didn't watch that, and I didn't watch

538
00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:08.039
<v Speaker 2>Skeleton Crew. But even though I thought that I might

539
00:27:08.119 --> 00:27:10.920
<v Speaker 2>want to watch Skeleton Crew. But again, it's you know,

540
00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:13.839
<v Speaker 2>another Star Wars for babies, which is absolutely fine. I

541
00:27:13.839 --> 00:27:16.720
<v Speaker 2>mean Star Wars. I won't say it's always been for babies,

542
00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:19.200
<v Speaker 2>but like you know, after the third movie, when they

543
00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:23.119
<v Speaker 2>started doing all of the Ewok movies, it's just like, okay, yeah,

544
00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:25.759
<v Speaker 2>they know their audience, they know that little kids are

545
00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:28.799
<v Speaker 2>going to enjoy this, so yeah, let's just give them,

546
00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:30.400
<v Speaker 2>give them more of that stuff.

547
00:27:30.599 --> 00:27:31.960
<v Speaker 3>Is Skeleton Crew for kids?

548
00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:34.759
<v Speaker 2>That's what I've heard? Or are you just asking chat GPT?

549
00:27:35.079 --> 00:27:39.200
<v Speaker 1>No, I was asking you. I'm asking AI Mike White.

550
00:27:39.480 --> 00:27:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, is it well, I don't know. I

551
00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:44.680
<v Speaker 1>had not to my sources. Yeah, I had not heard

552
00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:46.799
<v Speaker 1>that it was for kid but I guess I'm not

553
00:27:46.839 --> 00:27:50.759
<v Speaker 1>surprised because this movie is for children, right, It really.

554
00:27:50.519 --> 00:27:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Is though it scared my granddaughter a little bit.

555
00:27:53.319 --> 00:27:57.839
<v Speaker 1>Uh sandworm thing or the water worm that a little bit,

556
00:27:57.960 --> 00:28:00.720
<v Speaker 1>which again I think as a Drew Strew not true

557
00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:04.720
<v Speaker 1>struson Ralph McQuary thing, Yeah, I believe so I've seen

558
00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:09.039
<v Speaker 1>it before. Another in yes images, yeah, on him, which is.

559
00:28:09.039 --> 00:28:11.319
<v Speaker 2>Weird, Yeah, because it feels like it feels a little

560
00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:14.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, like disconcerting. I guess sometimes when you

561
00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:16.960
<v Speaker 2>see these images and you're just like, where have I

562
00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:19.480
<v Speaker 2>seen this before? Like this is so familiar to me,

563
00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:21.039
<v Speaker 2>and then it's like, Okay, it's got to be one

564
00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:24.240
<v Speaker 2>of those McQuary drawings. Like in one of the seasons

565
00:28:24.359 --> 00:28:27.400
<v Speaker 2>of The Mandalorian might have been season two, there's a

566
00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:31.359
<v Speaker 2>giant ice spider and I was like, oh, I've seen

567
00:28:31.400 --> 00:28:33.400
<v Speaker 2>this before, and then I had to go back and

568
00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:37.720
<v Speaker 2>see that it was the McQuary drawing. But the a

569
00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:42.240
<v Speaker 2>mana or Amani I guess they're called, which again goes

570
00:28:42.279 --> 00:28:45.720
<v Speaker 2>back to my childhood because a man of Man was

571
00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:49.079
<v Speaker 2>a figure you could buy. I never bought a Man

572
00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:52.880
<v Speaker 2>of Man. He kind of reminds me of the David

573
00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:56.559
<v Speaker 2>Patrick Kelly character when he turns into a snake in Dreamscape.

574
00:28:57.039 --> 00:29:01.599
<v Speaker 2>They're the ones that look like the yeah, like a lizard,

575
00:29:01.640 --> 00:29:03.599
<v Speaker 2>but their faces there. And they're the ones that were

576
00:29:03.599 --> 00:29:07.000
<v Speaker 2>hanging out in the water where that big white snake

577
00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:10.440
<v Speaker 2>was the white snake, you know, the ones that gave

578
00:29:10.519 --> 00:29:14.279
<v Speaker 2>us all the hit songs like those things creepy. Yeah,

579
00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:16.880
<v Speaker 2>I think those scared my granddaughter.

580
00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:21.960
<v Speaker 3>And the pack of like Java's Throne Room is, Yeah.

581
00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:24.160
<v Speaker 2>They hang out in the Throne room. Yeah, there's like

582
00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:26.759
<v Speaker 2>one of them hanging out there. Yeah, and they were

583
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:30.920
<v Speaker 2>selling every single person that was on that skiff and

584
00:29:31.160 --> 00:29:33.680
<v Speaker 2>in the Throne room, like there were figures for all

585
00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:35.759
<v Speaker 2>of them. And after a while, I was just like,

586
00:29:35.920 --> 00:29:38.559
<v Speaker 2>where the hell is this kid? Where's Yakface? I don't

587
00:29:38.599 --> 00:29:39.920
<v Speaker 2>know this character, you know.

588
00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:44.359
<v Speaker 3>I mean Yakface one of the greats really.

589
00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:47.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh of course, of course, yeah, we all remember Yakface.

590
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean I remember Yakface. I know exactly what yak

591
00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:51.240
<v Speaker 1>Face looks like.

592
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:54.720
<v Speaker 2>And it has a face like a yak.

593
00:29:54.720 --> 00:29:55.240
<v Speaker 3>Like a yak.

594
00:29:55.480 --> 00:29:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

595
00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:58.200
<v Speaker 1>It is nice that they do have some of those

596
00:29:58.319 --> 00:30:02.640
<v Speaker 1>throwback things to original Star Wars or other Star Wars properties,

597
00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:05.359
<v Speaker 1>because and I know, you know, if you know anything

598
00:30:05.359 --> 00:30:07.880
<v Speaker 1>about Dave Filoni, which I'm sure you Mike know at

599
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:09.720
<v Speaker 1>least some about Dave Filoni. A lot of that comes

600
00:30:09.759 --> 00:30:13.160
<v Speaker 1>from him, Like he's just the Star Wars guy, Like

601
00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:15.839
<v Speaker 1>he's the one who's you know, I don't know, he's

602
00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:18.880
<v Speaker 1>like George Lucas at this point, Like I don't know,

603
00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:22.839
<v Speaker 1>he probably knows the Star Wars universe better than anybody else,

604
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:25.279
<v Speaker 1>and having him involved, I think, I don't know, how

605
00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:28.119
<v Speaker 1>do you feel about that? Because I have my own thoughts,

606
00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:31.839
<v Speaker 1>and I think i'm our thoughts may be similar, But

607
00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:34.279
<v Speaker 1>what do you think about someone like that being directly

608
00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:36.720
<v Speaker 1>involved in like Star Wars project.

609
00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:39.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the guy's living his best life, right, you know,

610
00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:45.440
<v Speaker 2>to get in here. The the cameo slash potentially two

611
00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:46.519
<v Speaker 2>cameos that he.

612
00:30:46.519 --> 00:30:49.279
<v Speaker 3>Makes in this movie, or it's two, Yeah, it's two.

613
00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:52.720
<v Speaker 2>It's distracting if you know what he looks like.

614
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:54.559
<v Speaker 3>All of a sudden, there's just a guy with a cowboy

615
00:30:54.920 --> 00:30:55.559
<v Speaker 3>to do with.

616
00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:56.319
<v Speaker 2>The cowboy hat.

617
00:30:56.400 --> 00:30:59.160
<v Speaker 3>Hay out first cowboy hat.

618
00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:03.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's the space cowboy. So some people call him Maurice,

619
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:06.880
<v Speaker 2>but I call him Dave Filoni. And yeah, I've never

620
00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:10.079
<v Speaker 2>actually heard the guy speak or anything. I just know

621
00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:13.759
<v Speaker 2>so many of the fucking nerds, because obviously, over the

622
00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:18.200
<v Speaker 2>years the fan base for Star Wars has just become

623
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:22.359
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of fucking chuds man and just all of

624
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:29.160
<v Speaker 2>the Folony worship and then also Catherine Kennedy hatred. I'm like, Okay,

625
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:32.440
<v Speaker 2>is it because he's a dude and she's a lady? Like,

626
00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:34.880
<v Speaker 2>is that why you're so pissy about this stuff? Is

627
00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:40.440
<v Speaker 2>this really who all her fault? So yeah, so for me,

628
00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:45.680
<v Speaker 2>just seeing the hero worship of Felony has been a

629
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:50.440
<v Speaker 2>little much. So I don't know, he could be a

630
00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:54.440
<v Speaker 2>very nice guy. I like what he's doing with pulling

631
00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:58.400
<v Speaker 2>some of those things from the older drawings and you know,

632
00:31:58.519 --> 00:32:02.240
<v Speaker 2>kind of combining a lot of the storylines because apparently

633
00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:04.599
<v Speaker 2>that's gonna make some people happy. And I also appreciate

634
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:08.240
<v Speaker 2>that I don't have to necessarily know everything about these stories,

635
00:32:08.279 --> 00:32:10.799
<v Speaker 2>like they actually gave me a little bit of Well,

636
00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:13.400
<v Speaker 2>here's Rod of the Hut when he was just a

637
00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:16.160
<v Speaker 2>little kid, and it's like, Okay, I'm pretty sure I

638
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:20.119
<v Speaker 2>recognize that just from absorbing things from pop culture.

639
00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:23.279
<v Speaker 3>We talk about Rad of the Hut for a second, Yes, sure,

640
00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:24.160
<v Speaker 3>what a choice.

641
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Huh, Yeah, yeah, I've never seen a buff hut.

642
00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:31.720
<v Speaker 1>Before Ladies and Gentlemen now coming to the ring Buff Hut.

643
00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:35.680
<v Speaker 1>It's a choice. I I'm Jeremy Allen White.

644
00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:39.160
<v Speaker 2>Huh yeah, And again I know you watch The Bear.

645
00:32:39.519 --> 00:32:40.559
<v Speaker 3>I am a very huge fan.

646
00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:44.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm you know, I'm more of a cub than a bear.

647
00:32:44.839 --> 00:32:48.200
<v Speaker 2>I really don't know that much about Jeremy Allen White.

648
00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:51.160
<v Speaker 1>He's just a really good actor. It's a weird choice

649
00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:53.759
<v Speaker 1>for him to be in this movie. It's just I

650
00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:55.920
<v Speaker 1>thought it was a joke when they were like, he's

651
00:32:55.960 --> 00:32:58.519
<v Speaker 1>gonna play a buff son of job of the Hut.

652
00:32:58.519 --> 00:32:59.799
<v Speaker 3>I was like, what now?

653
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Is in real life? He's actually very buff?

654
00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:02.640
<v Speaker 3>Right?

655
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:02.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

656
00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:04.200
<v Speaker 3>He's a very good looking gentleman.

657
00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:04.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

658
00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well Jeremy so for that nos, other than the

659
00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:11.079
<v Speaker 1>fact that he kind of looks like Bruce Springsteen, I

660
00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:13.160
<v Speaker 1>mean he doesn't. But you know, I've heard he plays

661
00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:14.920
<v Speaker 1>him in movies and tell.

662
00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Vide That's what I've heard as well. But I kind

663
00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:19.359
<v Speaker 2>of forgot that movie even existed, kind of like the

664
00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Timothy Shallow may Bob Dylan film.

665
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:25.119
<v Speaker 3>Amen, do you forget? Wouldn't it be?

666
00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:26.519
<v Speaker 1>Would it have been better if it had been? Timothy

667
00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Shallomey is a buff son of Daba the Hut.

668
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:31.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean Timothy Shallamy can do anything.

669
00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:36.079
<v Speaker 1>Including go fuck himself. More most important, I.

670
00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:37.000
<v Speaker 3>Think Jeremy Allen White.

671
00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:39.680
<v Speaker 1>It's an interesting choice because the Rod of a Hut

672
00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:43.200
<v Speaker 1>character is such a bizarre choice because you already have

673
00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:48.799
<v Speaker 1>a CGI mequette creature for Pedro Pascalen his various stunt

674
00:33:48.799 --> 00:33:51.599
<v Speaker 1>men to act opposite, and now you have a lot

675
00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:54.839
<v Speaker 1>of the movie spent acting opposite a giant buff slug.

676
00:33:55.880 --> 00:33:58.359
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's a lot of doubling down in the CGI.

677
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:01.799
<v Speaker 1>I think that the Hut CGI is the least interesting

678
00:34:01.880 --> 00:34:05.440
<v Speaker 1>looking of the movie, and it almost it looks cartoony,

679
00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:09.000
<v Speaker 1>and I the Zeb character looks cartoony as well, so

680
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:12.280
<v Speaker 1>I can't tell if it's like intentional, it almost seems

681
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:15.239
<v Speaker 1>like it is, and if it is, okay, like I

682
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:17.800
<v Speaker 1>ain't got no problem. But then you have a character

683
00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:21.760
<v Speaker 1>like the Fisherman played by Stephen McKinley Henderson or voiced

684
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:24.679
<v Speaker 1>by him, who's more realistic looking. So it's weird that

685
00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:27.719
<v Speaker 1>there's like stylized choices being made, But then you have

686
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:32.079
<v Speaker 1>realistic looking things as well, because Zeb and Rod of

687
00:34:32.119 --> 00:34:34.599
<v Speaker 1>the Hutt almost look like they are from that cartoon

688
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:38.280
<v Speaker 1>like from Rebels or Clone Wars, like they're still stylized

689
00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:41.199
<v Speaker 1>in that way. And it's weird because Jaba never looked

690
00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:44.000
<v Speaker 1>that way. Jaba looked that way, I guess that one

691
00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:47.199
<v Speaker 1>time in Return or in New Hope, and then he

692
00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:51.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of looked like that in Phantom Menace kind of

693
00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:55.320
<v Speaker 1>the one shot of him you see, I don't starts. Yeah,

694
00:34:55.360 --> 00:34:58.239
<v Speaker 1>it's just strange. I mean, Jeremy Allen White's a strange choice,

695
00:34:58.320 --> 00:35:00.199
<v Speaker 1>not a bad one. He's a great actor. It's could

696
00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:02.079
<v Speaker 1>have had anybody doing that role really well.

697
00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:06.199
<v Speaker 2>I actually liked that character. And you know, like even

698
00:35:06.239 --> 00:35:08.840
<v Speaker 2>though he had to say what his motivation was a

699
00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:12.360
<v Speaker 2>few times, I was like, Okay, yeah, I'm down with

700
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:15.000
<v Speaker 2>this guy. Seems to have a good reason for doing

701
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:18.880
<v Speaker 2>what he's doing. And you know, after he gets you know,

702
00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:23.480
<v Speaker 2>captured by his aunt and uncle, I was like, okay, yeah, no,

703
00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:26.039
<v Speaker 2>you have to save him. And I was glad, Like

704
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:29.639
<v Speaker 2>I almost wish that there had been a little bit

705
00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:35.199
<v Speaker 2>of him trying to leave him being the Mandalorian, like, oh,

706
00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:37.440
<v Speaker 2>we got to get out of here. But there was

707
00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:40.760
<v Speaker 2>there was no doubt ever that he was going to

708
00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:42.039
<v Speaker 2>go back and save him.

709
00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:43.800
<v Speaker 3>Right yeah, the Mandalorian.

710
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Can we can we also say maybe the thing for

711
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:49.280
<v Speaker 1>me that the Mandalorian I think just at this point

712
00:35:49.320 --> 00:35:53.960
<v Speaker 1>as a character, he's lost any sense of subtlety or

713
00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:55.480
<v Speaker 1>complexity as a character.

714
00:35:55.719 --> 00:35:56.679
<v Speaker 3>He's Grogu's dad.

715
00:35:56.920 --> 00:35:58.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they even call him that a few times.

716
00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:01.559
<v Speaker 1>That's it, right, Like I remember when the show started,

717
00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:03.920
<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh, it is like this Clint Eastwood man

718
00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:06.599
<v Speaker 1>with no name character, and now it is just like

719
00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:09.559
<v Speaker 1>he's just Grogu's dad, and he can't do any wrong

720
00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:12.679
<v Speaker 1>and he'll protect Grogu all the way until the end

721
00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:15.599
<v Speaker 1>whenever that is, if there ever is an end for

722
00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:18.440
<v Speaker 1>any of this. Like I don't know, right, but it's

723
00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:21.519
<v Speaker 1>very like the character is very much like second, this

724
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:24.840
<v Speaker 1>should call this movie Grogu and the Mandalorian because it

725
00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:28.880
<v Speaker 1>is ultimately like become clearly Grogu's show and Grogu's kind

726
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:31.880
<v Speaker 1>of whole thing, and Mandalorian is just kind of there.

727
00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And I was very surprised that there wasn't more

728
00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:42.119
<v Speaker 2>advancement of the Grogu character, just because it's like we've

729
00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:45.239
<v Speaker 2>seen him start to learn how to use the force

730
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:49.760
<v Speaker 2>and he you know, he's what fifty years old, now,

731
00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:53.400
<v Speaker 2>and I know Yoda was at least eight hundred years old,

732
00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:55.920
<v Speaker 2>so it's like, okay, well, when do these guys learn

733
00:36:55.960 --> 00:36:59.440
<v Speaker 2>how to talk? Like when does that race learn, you know,

734
00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:02.519
<v Speaker 2>to not just make the cooing noises and stuff, Which

735
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:05.639
<v Speaker 2>is fine, I mean, this is fucking adorable, But at

736
00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:10.159
<v Speaker 2>the same time, it's like, maybe he could use his

737
00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:13.719
<v Speaker 2>powers a little bit more or actually start to say

738
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:16.960
<v Speaker 2>a word or something like. I don't know, maybe I'm

739
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:17.920
<v Speaker 2>asking for too much.

740
00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:20.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. I like I said, I'm kind

741
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:24.280
<v Speaker 1>of surprised that the character isn't further along. It further

742
00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:26.280
<v Speaker 1>along than where I saw the character at the end

743
00:37:26.280 --> 00:37:30.039
<v Speaker 1>of the second season, but not much further along in

744
00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:32.679
<v Speaker 1>terms of being a character that has a lot of

745
00:37:32.760 --> 00:37:35.480
<v Speaker 1>agency and is able to communicate more. And that's why

746
00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:38.119
<v Speaker 1>I think like again goes back to the cute seness

747
00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:41.239
<v Speaker 1>of this whole thing, right, like the whole like you said,

748
00:37:41.400 --> 00:37:44.880
<v Speaker 1>taking your you know, kids in your life to this

749
00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:47.400
<v Speaker 1>film like it's for kids. I don't know if you

750
00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:49.039
<v Speaker 1>would have taken to the last Star Wars film if

751
00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:51.400
<v Speaker 1>it had been coming out today, but this, for sure

752
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:54.599
<v Speaker 1>it has that entry point of Grogu. Grogu if Grogu

753
00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:57.559
<v Speaker 1>grown up is not something anybody cares about. I genuinely

754
00:37:57.599 --> 00:37:59.840
<v Speaker 1>don't think that that's a thing anybody has any interest in,

755
00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:02.199
<v Speaker 1>just like they don't have any interest in seeing The

756
00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:03.519
<v Speaker 1>Mandalorian without.

757
00:38:03.239 --> 00:38:04.360
<v Speaker 3>Grogu at this point.

758
00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:07.360
<v Speaker 1>Clearly so, because I'm not sure the Mandalorian is much

759
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:11.280
<v Speaker 1>of a character without Grogu anymore. And that's unfortunate because

760
00:38:11.320 --> 00:38:13.880
<v Speaker 1>there again, early on in the show it felt like

761
00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:17.000
<v Speaker 1>a Western, there was some shades of gray to his character.

762
00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:19.400
<v Speaker 1>And now he's just a good guy working for the

763
00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:22.719
<v Speaker 1>good guy. Even Sigourney Weaver's like, yeah, well, are you

764
00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:25.639
<v Speaker 1>really just a bounty hunter? Are you really just an

765
00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:28.400
<v Speaker 1>independent contractor? It's like, no, he's one of the good

766
00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:31.320
<v Speaker 1>guys now. Sigourney Weaver is also in this movie.

767
00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:35.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and I was glad to see her, glad

768
00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:37.239
<v Speaker 2>to see her show up. I mean it kind of

769
00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:40.480
<v Speaker 2>plays with the same thing that they've been doing for

770
00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:43.239
<v Speaker 2>well since the beginning. I mean, the person that wanted

771
00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:47.360
<v Speaker 2>the baby was Vernda Herzog. So it's like having these

772
00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:54.239
<v Speaker 2>cameos from like Hertzog or John Carlo Esposito or yeah,

773
00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:57.199
<v Speaker 2>Sigourney Weaver, It's like, Okay, yeah, this kind of works,

774
00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:00.559
<v Speaker 2>and it was nice seeing her. I love Ornie Weaver,

775
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:03.280
<v Speaker 2>so having her in this movie was great. I don't

776
00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:07.800
<v Speaker 2>know if I bought her actually leading the rescue mission.

777
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:10.039
<v Speaker 2>I was glad to see Oh God, I'm not going

778
00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:13.079
<v Speaker 2>to know his character's name, but the guy from was

779
00:39:13.079 --> 00:39:18.000
<v Speaker 2>it Fresh off the Boat, the grandpa, the balding, older

780
00:39:18.079 --> 00:39:21.079
<v Speaker 2>Korean gentleman, because he showed up in the show a

781
00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:23.400
<v Speaker 2>couple of times. I liked him a lot in the show,

782
00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:26.360
<v Speaker 2>and so I was really glad to see him back

783
00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:30.320
<v Speaker 2>in this. And then yeah, a bunch of other people

784
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:32.360
<v Speaker 2>that I didn't know, but they probably all have their

785
00:39:33.119 --> 00:39:38.079
<v Speaker 2>entries on Wikipedia. They probably all at some point somehow

786
00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:41.039
<v Speaker 2>met a Skywalker. Because that's the thing about the extended

787
00:39:41.159 --> 00:39:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Universe I can't stand, is how, no matter what, all

788
00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:49.079
<v Speaker 2>of them meet the main characters from the Star Wars series.

789
00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:52.440
<v Speaker 2>So like, even, like I remember den Gar, one of

790
00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:58.239
<v Speaker 2>the guys that gets hired to hunt down Han Solo

791
00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:02.239
<v Speaker 2>right in Empire Strikes. It's like I read his Wikipedia

792
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:04.320
<v Speaker 2>entry and it's like, oh yeah, and then he had

793
00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:06.880
<v Speaker 2>beef with Han Solo from all these years ago, and

794
00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:09.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, why, why couldn't you just be a fucking

795
00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:12.000
<v Speaker 2>bounty hunter, Like, does everybody have to know everybody?

796
00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:14.599
<v Speaker 3>This is like the smallest time, Yes.

797
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the smallest universe for sorry Galaxy You're ever going

798
00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:21.239
<v Speaker 2>to meet is this one. And they just keep making

799
00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:25.039
<v Speaker 2>it smaller because everybody has to track to somebody else.

800
00:40:25.079 --> 00:40:28.239
<v Speaker 2>It's like fucking deuteronomy sometimes.

801
00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:32.920
<v Speaker 1>And I don't understand why. I guess I don't understand

802
00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:35.639
<v Speaker 1>what the point is because again, like you have this

803
00:40:35.719 --> 00:40:37.599
<v Speaker 1>huge sandbox and you don't want to play in it,

804
00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:40.599
<v Speaker 1>you just want to just yeah, fucking just sit in

805
00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:42.079
<v Speaker 1>this one corner like that's it.

806
00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:44.719
<v Speaker 2>And then this guy knows this guy because this guy

807
00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:47.039
<v Speaker 2>did this thing over here, and it's like, oh, this

808
00:40:47.079 --> 00:40:50.679
<v Speaker 2>is if it was Kevin Bacon starring in The Mandalorian,

809
00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:53.159
<v Speaker 2>then I could understand it. And of course I knew

810
00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:55.119
<v Speaker 2>at some point they're going to have to take Pedro

811
00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:58.840
<v Speaker 2>Pascal's mask off. I kind of wish they didn't. I

812
00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:02.280
<v Speaker 2>kind of wish they did, like the Carl Urban Judge

813
00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:05.559
<v Speaker 2>Dread where we just never see his face that I

814
00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:08.519
<v Speaker 2>would have been absolutely fine with that. If The Mandalorian

815
00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:10.679
<v Speaker 2>had never taken off his mask was.

816
00:41:10.599 --> 00:41:12.559
<v Speaker 1>That The whole thing with banning a Mandalorian as you're

817
00:41:12.599 --> 00:41:14.239
<v Speaker 1>not supposed to take your mask off?

818
00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:17.039
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, and then they shame him and he's like, well,

819
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:19.039
<v Speaker 2>now I'm gonna have to kill you. And I'm like, okay, good,

820
00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:21.079
<v Speaker 2>And I was glad there weren't a lot of other

821
00:41:21.159 --> 00:41:23.239
<v Speaker 2>people in that room, because I was like, oh, and

822
00:41:23.239 --> 00:41:25.000
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna have to kill that guy. And that

823
00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:26.159
<v Speaker 2>guy and that the.

824
00:41:26.039 --> 00:41:28.360
<v Speaker 3>Pacha delivery man walks in. You gotta shoot him too.

825
00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:31.719
<v Speaker 2>Did somebody order a twelve inch sausage? Hey?

826
00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:36.320
<v Speaker 3>Yo, Hey, I'm Marty Scorsese. I'm a space Italian alien.

827
00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:39.079
<v Speaker 2>Look at me. I'm cooking with four hands.

828
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:43.320
<v Speaker 1>What in God's name, Marty? What happened? They were just like, Marty,

829
00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:46.239
<v Speaker 1>we want to extend Laurel and a hearty handshake to

830
00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:49.320
<v Speaker 1>you and an olive branch because you hate our other

831
00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:53.119
<v Speaker 1>movies we make, so please, let's pay you SAG minimum

832
00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:55.360
<v Speaker 1>for one day's worth of work to pretend to be

833
00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:59.400
<v Speaker 1>a fore armed shopkeeper slash cook and Star Wars not

834
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:01.039
<v Speaker 1>MC you Star Wars.

835
00:42:01.079 --> 00:42:04.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, it was kind of a it's not the same character,

836
00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:07.320
<v Speaker 2>but it's the same race as the guy from Solo, right,

837
00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:11.440
<v Speaker 2>And didn't Favreau do the voice of that character in Solo.

838
00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:16.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, did he I'm pretty sure he did, but

839
00:42:16.840 --> 00:42:21.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Yes, he was Rio Durant, and the

840
00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:26.760
<v Speaker 2>character in this movie, Hugo is Hugo Durant. So I

841
00:42:26.840 --> 00:42:29.760
<v Speaker 2>bet you if we look him up on Wikipedia one

842
00:42:29.880 --> 00:42:31.039
<v Speaker 2>it's father and son.

843
00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:35.639
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, please the unknown Durant family line. Yeah,

844
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:40.719
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, this is this is completely unnecessary Star Wars.

845
00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:41.599
<v Speaker 3>You do know that.

846
00:42:41.800 --> 00:42:44.400
<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't it be cool if that was this guy and

847
00:42:44.440 --> 00:42:46.599
<v Speaker 2>then he could do this? And then he makes a

848
00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:49.760
<v Speaker 2>reference and yeah, that'd be cool. Okay, cool?

849
00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:53.199
<v Speaker 3>He shares the name with Rio Durant. They're not related, but.

850
00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh just a lot of durance in the of those

851
00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:01.679
<v Speaker 2>fore armed huge fan of dark Man? Yes, yes?

852
00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:03.280
<v Speaker 3>What what? What did you think of.

853
00:43:03.239 --> 00:43:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Scorsese related to him Kevin to a four armed monster

854
00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:10.480
<v Speaker 1>from Star Wars?

855
00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:11.440
<v Speaker 3>Hopefully? Yeah?

856
00:43:11.480 --> 00:43:12.199
<v Speaker 2>I hope so too.

857
00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:13.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean he is French Canadian?

858
00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Right right? Sorry? What was your question?

859
00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:19.960
<v Speaker 3>My question was? Did you find Martin Scorsese is distracting

860
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:20.519
<v Speaker 3>his I did?

861
00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:21.840
<v Speaker 2>I did? I did?

862
00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay, good because I was like, it's just it's you

863
00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:28.039
<v Speaker 1>know how Martin Scorsese's mom and Goodfellas is not distracting,

864
00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:30.079
<v Speaker 1>even when you know it's his mom in this movie.

865
00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:31.440
<v Speaker 1>It's like, I don't care if it's if I know

866
00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:34.039
<v Speaker 1>it's Scorsese or not. It's very distracted.

867
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:36.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, it doesn't help that he kind of looks like him,

868
00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:39.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, with the gray and everything.

869
00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:42.400
<v Speaker 3>Looks like insults.

870
00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:46.000
<v Speaker 2>That is not no and we I mean, you've never

871
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:48.800
<v Speaker 2>seen Scorsese with the shirt of he has four arms,

872
00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:51.159
<v Speaker 2>so that's how he makes all.

873
00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:53.119
<v Speaker 3>His fall out of the chair.

874
00:43:53.239 --> 00:43:55.840
<v Speaker 1>That character looks like an old Asian man.

875
00:43:56.679 --> 00:43:59.559
<v Speaker 2>Well, he's got the gray going on, so kind of

876
00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:02.559
<v Speaker 2>reminded me. And then you know it sounds exactly like

877
00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:04.079
<v Speaker 2>Martin Scorsese, so.

878
00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:06.760
<v Speaker 3>Like, well, I mean, yeah, that's intentional.

879
00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:08.119
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of wild.

880
00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:09.960
<v Speaker 3>Do you think he actually had twelve kids.

881
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:14.719
<v Speaker 2>I think he had five kids, just like Benny from

882
00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:19.199
<v Speaker 2>Total Recall. Man, I've got five kids to feed.

883
00:44:20.320 --> 00:44:24.400
<v Speaker 3>Don't kill me. Oh my god. I love that Scorsese

884
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:24.760
<v Speaker 3>is in this.

885
00:44:24.920 --> 00:44:27.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like you. It was. I was so shocked

886
00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:30.039
<v Speaker 2>when his name came up in the credits. I was

887
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:33.119
<v Speaker 2>like what, and then I forgot that he was in it.

888
00:44:33.360 --> 00:44:37.480
<v Speaker 2>And then when Dnjarren goes to find some information and

889
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:41.880
<v Speaker 2>that guy starts talking. I was like, oh shit, That'schssse's voice.

890
00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:46.079
<v Speaker 1>You know, he looks less like Scorsese, and you know

891
00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:48.400
<v Speaker 1>who he actually looks like if you were to put

892
00:44:48.440 --> 00:44:51.440
<v Speaker 1>glasses on him, he looks like Coppola. He looks like

893
00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:55.119
<v Speaker 1>old Coppola, with like the hair and the facial hair,

894
00:44:55.800 --> 00:45:00.440
<v Speaker 1>all right, and the turban that the turbine urban or

895
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:03.000
<v Speaker 1>a head covering, and it looks it looks like a turbine.

896
00:45:03.039 --> 00:45:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Maybe, yeah, you never know.

897
00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:07.079
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

898
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:09.599
<v Speaker 1>I don't know the religions of Star Wars. All I

899
00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:12.719
<v Speaker 1>know is that apparently if Rata the Hut does enough crunches,

900
00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:16.559
<v Speaker 1>he can become what I'm assuming some people will probably

901
00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:19.119
<v Speaker 1>find sexy, which is mean God is.

902
00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:21.760
<v Speaker 3>The other really awful thing to think about?

903
00:45:21.800 --> 00:45:25.599
<v Speaker 2>Really, I can't even imagine the fiction that's being written

904
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:26.119
<v Speaker 2>right now.

905
00:45:26.400 --> 00:45:29.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, probably I would love to imagine it, frankly.

906
00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:35.159
<v Speaker 2>Lots of AI videos and things now. So yeah, what

907
00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:37.480
<v Speaker 2>would it be like if you were in a Rat

908
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:41.320
<v Speaker 2>of the Hut sandwich with thin jarn Ooh.

909
00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, with with Hugo Durant filming with his fore arms, yes,

910
00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:47.400
<v Speaker 1>four different angles?

911
00:45:47.480 --> 00:45:50.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, get over there, over there, yeah, exactly. You see

912
00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:52.679
<v Speaker 2>that window up there. You see that window, that's my

913
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:55.360
<v Speaker 2>wife up there. Yeah, that's what I would have liked

914
00:45:55.360 --> 00:45:57.760
<v Speaker 2>if he started doing that whole speech from taxi driver.

915
00:45:57.920 --> 00:46:00.719
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. Yeah, it's just what did we have?

916
00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:02.320
<v Speaker 3>We had Simon pegg in.

917
00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:05.679
<v Speaker 2>Oh that was so weird, and Daniel Craig.

918
00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:09.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then we had this This is another one,

919
00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:11.800
<v Speaker 1>and then Werner Herzog is the other big one obviously,

920
00:46:12.199 --> 00:46:14.880
<v Speaker 1>like so brandom. Jon Favreau is just like, hey, you

921
00:46:14.920 --> 00:46:16.360
<v Speaker 1>want to be in Star Wars.

922
00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:18.719
<v Speaker 2>But that's the thing I really like, you know, like

923
00:46:18.760 --> 00:46:22.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't know Fuloni, but I know Favreau. Oh yeah,

924
00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:26.519
<v Speaker 2>And I like Favreau and I've always liked him, like

925
00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:29.559
<v Speaker 2>since ash did I ever? Did I see him in

926
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:33.559
<v Speaker 2>things before Swingers? I know for sure Swingers? And I

927
00:46:33.599 --> 00:46:37.440
<v Speaker 2>really liked him in Swingers. Yeah, I guess he was

928
00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:40.159
<v Speaker 2>in Oh yeah, that's right, he was in PCU. I

929
00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:43.400
<v Speaker 2>forgot about that one. He's so good in that. Yes,

930
00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:46.079
<v Speaker 2>don't be the guy who wears the T shirt to

931
00:46:46.119 --> 00:46:47.280
<v Speaker 2>the band are going to see?

932
00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:50.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, literally taking that shit to heart, by the way.

933
00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh same same, and then the replacements yeah, oh man,

934
00:46:55.840 --> 00:47:00.480
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I really like him and I like a

935
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:03.360
<v Speaker 2>lot of the stuff that he's directed, and of course

936
00:47:03.440 --> 00:47:06.079
<v Speaker 2>Iron Man. You know, you could you could lay a

937
00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:09.119
<v Speaker 2>lot of blame at the feet of Jon Favreau, but

938
00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:12.800
<v Speaker 2>I I don't. I think he has done a really

939
00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:15.679
<v Speaker 2>great thing with his career over the years, and I

940
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:20.559
<v Speaker 2>love that he does acting, producing, directing, writing, and yeah,

941
00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:24.599
<v Speaker 2>I like what he's done with the Star Wars properties

942
00:47:24.599 --> 00:47:27.760
<v Speaker 2>that he's been involved with, way better than like a

943
00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:33.599
<v Speaker 2>Robert Rodriguez, who directed probably the most awful book of

944
00:47:33.639 --> 00:47:36.400
<v Speaker 2>Bubba Fette that there was, which is saying something that's

945
00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:38.239
<v Speaker 2>like a race to the bottom, I would.

946
00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:40.559
<v Speaker 1>Say John Favreau, I don't know what what is there

947
00:47:40.599 --> 00:47:43.559
<v Speaker 1>to blame him for other than having an abundance of

948
00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:46.719
<v Speaker 1>these things in our lives more because Star Wars was

949
00:47:46.719 --> 00:47:50.320
<v Speaker 1>on the decline when he took over and did The

950
00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:52.519
<v Speaker 1>Mandalorian as a show and it took over. I mean

951
00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:54.880
<v Speaker 1>he just took over because he created The Mandalorian as

952
00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:58.400
<v Speaker 1>a show and that ended up becoming like the overwhelming

953
00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:01.199
<v Speaker 1>conversation about Star Wars for like five years.

954
00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:02.280
<v Speaker 3>Is just the man warri.

955
00:48:02.440 --> 00:48:04.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying him as director of Iron.

956
00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Man, well saying with Marvel, like Marvel wasn't a thing

957
00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:09.159
<v Speaker 1>the way it is then the way it is now,

958
00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:10.679
<v Speaker 1>and he's part of the reason.

959
00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:13.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if iron Man hadn't been the hit that it was,

960
00:48:13.880 --> 00:48:16.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't think we I don't think Martin says he

961
00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:17.639
<v Speaker 2>would have been pissed off about.

962
00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:20.119
<v Speaker 1>It, right, Martin Scorsese would not. This is all John

963
00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:23.039
<v Speaker 1>Favreau's fault. That Martin Scorsese is a forearmed ape and

964
00:48:23.239 --> 00:48:27.079
<v Speaker 1>star Wars. It all comes back to John Favreau in

965
00:48:27.119 --> 00:48:29.239
<v Speaker 1>the end. He was in an episode of The Sopranos,

966
00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Mike playing himself.

967
00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:33.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I remember that Alicia Wit.

968
00:48:33.440 --> 00:48:36.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Yeah, he's it's crazy Favreau.

969
00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:38.320
<v Speaker 1>I think Fabreau is a good arbiter of the pop

970
00:48:38.360 --> 00:48:42.159
<v Speaker 1>culture world the way a JJ Abrams is not.

971
00:48:42.639 --> 00:48:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, it's funny, Like you know, he definitely has

972
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:51.000
<v Speaker 2>taken some missteps as a director. Iron Man two. Uh,

973
00:48:51.159 --> 00:48:54.800
<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen since Thora. You saw Jamonti, right, I

974
00:48:54.840 --> 00:49:00.239
<v Speaker 2>saw Jamantu, so I basically saw Thora. Right. Yeah, it's

975
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:04.800
<v Speaker 2>funny because one of his other missteps is Cowboys and Aliens,

976
00:49:05.239 --> 00:49:08.400
<v Speaker 2>which kind of is the Mandalorian if you think of it,

977
00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:11.320
<v Speaker 2>because it's basically a cowboys show with aliens.

978
00:49:11.679 --> 00:49:14.719
<v Speaker 1>Man that's a movie, you know. Is it bad that

979
00:49:14.760 --> 00:49:17.119
<v Speaker 1>I would like to rewatch that movie? Or if I

980
00:49:17.159 --> 00:49:20.440
<v Speaker 1>rewatch it, is it as bad as is it as

981
00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:22.599
<v Speaker 1>not much of anything as I remember, because I don't

982
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:24.519
<v Speaker 1>even remember it being bad. I just remember watching in

983
00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:27.400
<v Speaker 1>theaters being like, huh, I also had I was one

984
00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:28.840
<v Speaker 1>of the few people at the time that I had

985
00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:32.639
<v Speaker 1>actually bought the graphic novel and read it long before

986
00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:35.280
<v Speaker 1>the movie ever came out, And I remember thinking to myself,

987
00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:37.559
<v Speaker 1>do we really need this being adapted anyways?

988
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Like was it a good graphic novel?

989
00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:44.960
<v Speaker 1>No, because it wasn't great. It was just a novel concept,

990
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:48.360
<v Speaker 1>but like not clearly not novel enough.

991
00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:51.639
<v Speaker 2>Right, what's funny? When I saw it, I was really

992
00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:56.280
<v Speaker 2>reminded a lot of John Carter parentheses of Mars and parentheses.

993
00:49:57.639 --> 00:50:00.599
<v Speaker 2>But I like John Carter better than I liked Cowboys

994
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:02.519
<v Speaker 2>Versus Aliens or Cowboys and Aliens.

995
00:50:02.760 --> 00:50:04.880
<v Speaker 1>I've heard that John Carter movie is not as bad

996
00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:06.480
<v Speaker 1>as it was being played out to be.

997
00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:09.239
<v Speaker 2>No, No, it's not terrible. I mean, some of the

998
00:50:09.239 --> 00:50:12.239
<v Speaker 2>special effects are a little rough, but it's really not

999
00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:14.840
<v Speaker 2>that bad, you know, I mean, and I do like

1000
00:50:14.920 --> 00:50:18.079
<v Speaker 2>that Fabreau really kind of goes above and beyond when

1001
00:50:18.119 --> 00:50:20.920
<v Speaker 2>it comes to special effects, and a lot of his stuff,

1002
00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:24.519
<v Speaker 2>like the Jungle Book, the effects in that, which again,

1003
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:27.360
<v Speaker 2>did we really need a live action Jungle Book? No,

1004
00:50:27.639 --> 00:50:30.880
<v Speaker 2>his was decent and I really like the special effects

1005
00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:31.199
<v Speaker 2>on it.

1006
00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:34.079
<v Speaker 1>Well, I would say that this is this is redemptive

1007
00:50:34.119 --> 00:50:37.519
<v Speaker 1>of him as a director, more so than The Lion King, Like,

1008
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:40.360
<v Speaker 1>oh boy, yeah, was a misstep. I mean that is

1009
00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:44.519
<v Speaker 1>just talk about unnecessary in a way that's I don't know,

1010
00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:49.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't I can think of few things less unnecessary

1011
00:50:49.320 --> 00:50:51.760
<v Speaker 1>than that Lion King movie. And you know what's true?

1012
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:54.079
<v Speaker 1>What the fuck was even the point? The original one

1013
00:50:54.159 --> 00:50:57.360
<v Speaker 1>is hand drawn and this one's just animated effectively, what

1014
00:50:57.400 --> 00:50:58.880
<v Speaker 1>are we what are we doing here, folks?

1015
00:50:59.079 --> 00:51:02.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? And the lack of of facial expressions.

1016
00:51:01.639 --> 00:51:05.800
<v Speaker 1>On the animals, the real animals, Like what that was

1017
00:51:05.840 --> 00:51:09.519
<v Speaker 1>the strangest fucking choice. The year of animals making strange

1018
00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:13.079
<v Speaker 1>choices was twenty nineteen. We had asshole list cats played

1019
00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:18.199
<v Speaker 1>by humans and then human beings playing real life animals

1020
00:51:18.239 --> 00:51:21.920
<v Speaker 1>in what's effectively a David Attenborough documentary but turned into

1021
00:51:21.960 --> 00:51:22.639
<v Speaker 1>Lion King, Like.

1022
00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:23.320
<v Speaker 3>What was the point?

1023
00:51:23.559 --> 00:51:26.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it's so fucking bizarre and and you

1024
00:51:26.559 --> 00:51:29.000
<v Speaker 1>know we didn't mention it, but I honestly think John

1025
00:51:29.039 --> 00:51:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Fabra is one of the few people who's created a

1026
00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:33.840
<v Speaker 1>modern day Christmas classic with ELF. I mean, you know,

1027
00:51:33.960 --> 00:51:36.599
<v Speaker 1>Elf is. I think ELF's amazing. Yeah, I think we

1028
00:51:36.639 --> 00:51:41.119
<v Speaker 1>would both agree, like it's pretty phenomenal Christmas film, like

1029
00:51:41.159 --> 00:51:43.400
<v Speaker 1>one of the few ones that has been released in

1030
00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:45.960
<v Speaker 1>the last twenty plus years or twenty twenty five years

1031
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:48.599
<v Speaker 1>that actually is as good as the other ones that

1032
00:51:48.639 --> 00:51:51.119
<v Speaker 1>are remembered as Christmas classics. And that's hard to do,

1033
00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:52.239
<v Speaker 1>especially organic.

1034
00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:54.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, and of course I love the nods to rink

1035
00:51:54.320 --> 00:51:55.880
<v Speaker 2>and a bass in that one too, right.

1036
00:51:55.960 --> 00:51:56.679
<v Speaker 3>Right, right, Yeah.

1037
00:51:57.159 --> 00:51:59.360
<v Speaker 1>I feel like if we could get Jon Favreau on

1038
00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:01.920
<v Speaker 1>a podcast to talk to us the same, we'd all

1039
00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:03.760
<v Speaker 1>be able to have the same language. We share the

1040
00:52:03.760 --> 00:52:06.840
<v Speaker 1>same language with someone like John Favre. I think it

1041
00:52:06.920 --> 00:52:10.719
<v Speaker 1>comes through with what is successful about this movie. I

1042
00:52:10.760 --> 00:52:13.480
<v Speaker 1>think the things that are successful about this movie are

1043
00:52:13.519 --> 00:52:16.039
<v Speaker 1>the things that someone who's genuinely a fan of Star

1044
00:52:16.119 --> 00:52:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Wars would want to see and nods back to the

1045
00:52:19.880 --> 00:52:24.000
<v Speaker 1>old stuff, nods to things that have never happened, new stuff, fun,

1046
00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:27.920
<v Speaker 1>new creatures, and other things and expounding upon creatures we've

1047
00:52:27.960 --> 00:52:30.239
<v Speaker 1>seen before in a fun way. Like those all seem

1048
00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:32.639
<v Speaker 1>like a thing that someone who actually likes Star Wars

1049
00:52:32.679 --> 00:52:35.039
<v Speaker 1>would want in their movie, and that's what this movie is.

1050
00:52:35.079 --> 00:52:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Maybe sometimes a little too much, but I can't foresee

1051
00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:40.400
<v Speaker 1>them not making another one. I don't know if they'll

1052
00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:43.400
<v Speaker 1>make another Grogu season of TV, but I think we'll

1053
00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:45.880
<v Speaker 1>get probably another one of these at least.

1054
00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:52.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I mean, basically, you know, I love Pitch

1055
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:56.840
<v Speaker 2>many things, right, the Ryan George series that's on YouTube right,

1056
00:52:56.920 --> 00:53:00.239
<v Speaker 2>and I just can hear in his voice, you know,

1057
00:53:00.360 --> 00:53:03.760
<v Speaker 2>oh what an adorable little marketing opportunity. When it comes

1058
00:53:03.840 --> 00:53:06.920
<v Speaker 2>to Grogu, it's like, yeah, that's what he's built to

1059
00:53:06.960 --> 00:53:11.079
<v Speaker 2>sell toys, you know. And he's cuterer than fucking ewoks,

1060
00:53:11.519 --> 00:53:14.400
<v Speaker 2>and he has a lot of potential, and he's got

1061
00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:17.360
<v Speaker 2>some power, he's got some agency. I really like when

1062
00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:22.519
<v Speaker 2>those little guys take him with him to go rescue Mando.

1063
00:53:22.719 --> 00:53:24.480
<v Speaker 2>I was like, Okay, this is good. I'm glad that

1064
00:53:24.519 --> 00:53:28.119
<v Speaker 2>it's actually him doing this, you know, it's not somebody

1065
00:53:28.159 --> 00:53:33.239
<v Speaker 2>else rescuing Mando. And I also liked the pretty direct

1066
00:53:33.320 --> 00:53:35.960
<v Speaker 2>nod I think to want to say to it's either

1067
00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:38.199
<v Speaker 2>Lone Wolf and Cub two or Lone Wolf and Cub three.

1068
00:53:38.880 --> 00:53:44.119
<v Speaker 2>When Ogami Eto you know, is injured and Diggaro has

1069
00:53:44.199 --> 00:53:47.400
<v Speaker 2>to take care of him, and there's a great scene

1070
00:53:47.480 --> 00:53:49.920
<v Speaker 2>where Daggero was trying to bring him water and he

1071
00:53:49.960 --> 00:53:51.920
<v Speaker 2>can't figure out how to do it, so he finally

1072
00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:53.840
<v Speaker 2>puts the water in his mouth because he can't hold

1073
00:53:53.880 --> 00:53:56.559
<v Speaker 2>it into his hands and walk that far. I was

1074
00:53:56.599 --> 00:53:58.719
<v Speaker 2>expecting Grogu to do the same thing, but luckily he

1075
00:53:58.760 --> 00:54:00.719
<v Speaker 2>had that little vial that he could at the water in.

1076
00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:02.800
<v Speaker 2>But I was like, this is cool, and I also

1077
00:54:02.960 --> 00:54:06.199
<v Speaker 2>like the kind of I'm guessing it's an instinctual thing

1078
00:54:06.280 --> 00:54:09.599
<v Speaker 2>for their race to make houses that look like that

1079
00:54:10.079 --> 00:54:13.760
<v Speaker 2>house that he puts uh Dingjarn in because it's exactly

1080
00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:16.280
<v Speaker 2>the same as Yoga's house on Dagabah.

1081
00:54:16.400 --> 00:54:17.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I love that.

1082
00:54:17.480 --> 00:54:20.360
<v Speaker 2>I love that was nice. Yes, And then using the

1083
00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:22.599
<v Speaker 2>force to push him in there and that clanked when

1084
00:54:22.599 --> 00:54:25.119
<v Speaker 2>his head keeps hitting the wall. I was like, that's

1085
00:54:25.159 --> 00:54:28.199
<v Speaker 2>pretty cute. I like this this movie is cute.

1086
00:54:28.079 --> 00:54:31.159
<v Speaker 1>Right, Like we have the and Zelens, the little I mean,

1087
00:54:31.360 --> 00:54:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what they are like, I don't know

1088
00:54:32.880 --> 00:54:36.960
<v Speaker 1>how cute those little things are the little old manserting.

1089
00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they kind of remind me of the I think

1090
00:54:39.960 --> 00:54:42.280
<v Speaker 2>there's a shrimp character from the Muppets.

1091
00:54:42.320 --> 00:54:46.679
<v Speaker 1>They kind of remind you, oh yeah, god, yeah, yeah,

1092
00:54:46.760 --> 00:54:51.280
<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah, Pepe yesrrect. Yeah, he's also like Puerto Rican.

1093
00:54:51.760 --> 00:54:54.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure.

1094
00:54:54.480 --> 00:54:57.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Pepe the King frown, yes exactly, yea, yeah.

1095
00:54:57.960 --> 00:54:59.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he does. They do kind of look like that.

1096
00:54:59.400 --> 00:55:02.079
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there was Babu Frick was in what the

1097
00:55:02.199 --> 00:55:05.039
<v Speaker 1>Last Star Wars sequel. I think so he was the

1098
00:55:05.079 --> 00:55:07.840
<v Speaker 1>one that wiped C three po and I don't know.

1099
00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:10.639
<v Speaker 1>They remind me of like Hairy or Neon nubs.

1100
00:55:10.960 --> 00:55:12.320
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, I can see that.

1101
00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:14.360
<v Speaker 3>But it's a cute see movie. There's like all you know,

1102
00:55:14.360 --> 00:55:16.159
<v Speaker 3>there's all these like cute things in the movie.

1103
00:55:16.199 --> 00:55:18.239
<v Speaker 1>Like I think to your point, like it is a

1104
00:55:18.280 --> 00:55:22.199
<v Speaker 1>marketing opportunity, but Grogu, I think, for if you, if

1105
00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:25.000
<v Speaker 1>you were any company making products in the last ten years,

1106
00:55:25.039 --> 00:55:29.119
<v Speaker 1>like Grogu has been a godsend if you're children facing

1107
00:55:29.199 --> 00:55:30.039
<v Speaker 1>like my god.

1108
00:55:30.440 --> 00:55:33.440
<v Speaker 2>Do you know what else? They reminded me of those

1109
00:55:33.599 --> 00:55:37.760
<v Speaker 2>worm aliens in Men in Black, the ones that like

1110
00:55:37.880 --> 00:55:41.400
<v Speaker 2>are hang out in the coffee room, like, yeah, those

1111
00:55:41.480 --> 00:55:42.079
<v Speaker 2>kind of things.

1112
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:45.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you want some coffee? Yeah, the right, yeah, yeah.

1113
00:55:45.880 --> 00:55:48.280
<v Speaker 2>The worm guys, I guess they're called Yeah.

1114
00:55:48.360 --> 00:55:50.719
<v Speaker 3>I like Pep. I like the comparison of Pepe the Muppet,

1115
00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:54.199
<v Speaker 3>Thank you, thank you, Pepe the King brin Jesus Christ.

1116
00:55:54.400 --> 00:55:55.360
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I would.

1117
00:55:55.519 --> 00:55:55.679
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

1118
00:55:55.920 --> 00:55:57.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, if you're into Star Wars, especially if you're

1119
00:55:57.920 --> 00:56:00.679
<v Speaker 2>into The Mandalorian, there's no reason not to go see

1120
00:56:00.719 --> 00:56:05.559
<v Speaker 2>this movie. Yeah. You know, it's very to me, inoffensive

1121
00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:08.679
<v Speaker 2>to the to the point where some people might be like, well,

1122
00:56:08.679 --> 00:56:11.400
<v Speaker 2>it's not taking risks, it's not doing anything new, We're.

1123
00:56:11.199 --> 00:56:13.360
<v Speaker 3>Not as I saw said that.

1124
00:56:13.360 --> 00:56:15.159
<v Speaker 1>They were like, it's kind of boring, and you know,

1125
00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:17.800
<v Speaker 1>it is kind of boring. But I think it's also

1126
00:56:17.960 --> 00:56:20.239
<v Speaker 1>like that's if you look at it solely as that's

1127
00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:23.159
<v Speaker 1>the intention. I don't know how you can't say it

1128
00:56:23.159 --> 00:56:27.360
<v Speaker 1>doesn't succeed. Is it charming or is it like it's

1129
00:56:27.360 --> 00:56:29.360
<v Speaker 1>a charming movie. It doesn't need to be any more

1130
00:56:29.400 --> 00:56:33.639
<v Speaker 1>than that. Like The Mandalorian is pretty frothy television entertainment,

1131
00:56:33.719 --> 00:56:34.039
<v Speaker 1>is it not.

1132
00:56:35.239 --> 00:56:38.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I want to say it's a little bit more grounded.

1133
00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:42.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Yah, and Laurian's fun. This is finol

1134
00:56:42.840 --> 00:56:45.679
<v Speaker 1>supposed to sit down with your kids or your family

1135
00:56:45.719 --> 00:56:49.039
<v Speaker 1>and you watch Mandalorian. Like the movie is the same.

1136
00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:53.400
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't like the original. This this recaptures a feeling

1137
00:56:53.480 --> 00:56:58.519
<v Speaker 1>of kind of fun that the Star Wars sequels really didn't.

1138
00:56:58.679 --> 00:57:01.960
<v Speaker 1>The Star Wars prequels really didn't. This is like kind

1139
00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:05.960
<v Speaker 1>of taking what makes the Mandalorian fun, that like charmingness

1140
00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:08.960
<v Speaker 1>between Pedro Pascal and the little Grogu puppet, and it

1141
00:57:09.039 --> 00:57:11.639
<v Speaker 1>amplified it, Like that's that's all this is. Like if

1142
00:57:11.679 --> 00:57:13.639
<v Speaker 1>you were expecting this, if you're expecting to go into

1143
00:57:13.639 --> 00:57:16.559
<v Speaker 1>this this to be something other than that, Like that's

1144
00:57:16.639 --> 00:57:19.239
<v Speaker 1>on you. Yeah, more than I think the filmmakers really

1145
00:57:19.400 --> 00:57:20.960
<v Speaker 1>not trying to give them a pass, but I think

1146
00:57:21.039 --> 00:57:24.760
<v Speaker 1>like they're successful and they're successful in achieving what I

1147
00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:26.559
<v Speaker 1>would be setting out to do with the movie like this,

1148
00:57:26.639 --> 00:57:29.079
<v Speaker 1>which is make something cute for the whole family, because

1149
00:57:29.079 --> 00:57:32.039
<v Speaker 1>that's what the Mandalorian was and is, And if they

1150
00:57:32.079 --> 00:57:34.440
<v Speaker 1>do another one of these movies, that's what it's going

1151
00:57:34.480 --> 00:57:36.360
<v Speaker 1>to be. It's just going to be more of this,

1152
00:57:36.480 --> 00:57:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Like it might be a little bit edgier because the

1153
00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:42.079
<v Speaker 1>people that grew up with Mandalorian are getting older, but

1154
00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:46.199
<v Speaker 1>I like, Grogu's never gonna die. Mandalorian's never gonna die. Like,

1155
00:57:46.440 --> 00:57:49.079
<v Speaker 1>get that shit out of your head now, Like there's

1156
00:57:49.239 --> 00:57:51.519
<v Speaker 1>the most danger any one of them is either ever

1157
00:57:51.559 --> 00:57:53.039
<v Speaker 1>going to be in is going to be something that

1158
00:57:53.079 --> 00:57:56.119
<v Speaker 1>can be easily solved by the end of the episode, season,

1159
00:57:56.280 --> 00:57:59.400
<v Speaker 1>or movie like it, It's it's kind of past that

1160
00:57:59.480 --> 00:58:02.119
<v Speaker 1>point at point. It's like Stranger Things. It's just kind

1161
00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:05.519
<v Speaker 1>of become unto itself, its own thing. And I don't know.

1162
00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:08.079
<v Speaker 1>If this is the end of the Mandalorian story, I

1163
00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:09.480
<v Speaker 1>think it was a good way to end it. If

1164
00:58:09.519 --> 00:58:12.440
<v Speaker 1>it was the beginning of another Mandalorian thing, I think

1165
00:58:12.440 --> 00:58:14.559
<v Speaker 1>it's a pretty decent jumping off point as well.

1166
00:58:14.679 --> 00:58:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the only thing that surprised me about the Mandalorian

1167
00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:21.000
<v Speaker 2>and Grogu was that it didn't end with production drawings,

1168
00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:24.199
<v Speaker 2>because that's how all the TV episodes end, And I

1169
00:58:24.280 --> 00:58:26.119
<v Speaker 2>was like, well, kind of would have been appropriate to

1170
00:58:26.239 --> 00:58:28.599
<v Speaker 2>just end it the same damn way, because this is

1171
00:58:28.679 --> 00:58:32.239
<v Speaker 2>just a big old TV episode that I paid paid

1172
00:58:32.239 --> 00:58:34.719
<v Speaker 2>top dollar to see, and that might make people butt

1173
00:58:34.800 --> 00:58:37.039
<v Speaker 2>hurt as well, just like, oh, I could have just

1174
00:58:37.079 --> 00:58:39.280
<v Speaker 2>watched this on TV. It's like, well you could, and

1175
00:58:39.360 --> 00:58:43.519
<v Speaker 2>you can wait like what three months? Maybe not if that.

1176
00:58:43.639 --> 00:58:45.920
<v Speaker 3>Long, yeah, month and a half probably at.

1177
00:58:45.800 --> 00:58:49.199
<v Speaker 2>The yes, and then it'll be on Disney Plus and

1178
00:58:49.239 --> 00:58:51.199
<v Speaker 2>you can just watch it there, so if you don't

1179
00:58:51.199 --> 00:58:53.000
<v Speaker 2>want to go to this show, you know, I think

1180
00:58:53.039 --> 00:58:56.800
<v Speaker 2>I finally knocked Michael off of the Pedestal of the

1181
00:58:57.280 --> 00:58:59.559
<v Speaker 2>Top Earners. Maybe I don't even.

1182
00:58:59.360 --> 00:59:01.880
<v Speaker 3>Know that movie. He he heat all the way to

1183
00:59:01.960 --> 00:59:02.800
<v Speaker 3>the Top Baby.

1184
00:59:03.400 --> 00:59:07.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, America was talking about it. I guess America

1185
00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:08.480
<v Speaker 2>loves its pedophiles.

1186
00:59:08.480 --> 00:59:13.519
<v Speaker 1>Man loves its little things too, little grogu dancing around

1187
00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:17.960
<v Speaker 1>making its cute noises. Mike, we just have very over

1188
00:59:18.000 --> 00:59:19.800
<v Speaker 1>exaggerate how much cuteness sells.

1189
00:59:19.840 --> 00:59:20.280
<v Speaker 3>Baby.

1190
00:59:20.679 --> 00:59:24.159
<v Speaker 2>There are a few moments in the movie that I

1191
00:59:24.239 --> 00:59:28.800
<v Speaker 2>kept thinking of Baby Groot, and especially in the I

1192
00:59:28.840 --> 00:59:31.280
<v Speaker 2>think it was the Second Guardians of the Galaxy when

1193
00:59:31.800 --> 00:59:34.400
<v Speaker 2>Rockets trying to explain to him like don't push you know,

1194
00:59:34.440 --> 00:59:37.559
<v Speaker 2>push this button, don't push this button, YadA, YadA, YadA,

1195
00:59:37.639 --> 00:59:40.840
<v Speaker 2>And at one point den Jarren gives them some instructions like,

1196
00:59:40.920 --> 00:59:42.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, don't touch those buttons, or I know what

1197
00:59:42.840 --> 00:59:45.360
<v Speaker 2>it is, it's you know, remember those buttons. I told

1198
00:59:45.400 --> 00:59:47.719
<v Speaker 2>you not to touch, like touch those buttons down. I

1199
00:59:47.800 --> 00:59:49.840
<v Speaker 2>need you to help me with this stuff, right, And

1200
00:59:49.880 --> 00:59:52.159
<v Speaker 2>he just keeps firing rockets on all this stuff, and

1201
00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:54.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, oh, this is the this is the

1202
00:59:54.039 --> 00:59:57.519
<v Speaker 2>baby Groot moment. Okay, all right, but at least Grogu

1203
00:59:57.639 --> 01:00:02.159
<v Speaker 2>seems like smarter. But at same time, you know, I'm

1204
01:00:02.239 --> 01:00:05.280
<v Speaker 2>curious when he will start talking backwards.

1205
01:00:05.599 --> 01:00:06.800
<v Speaker 3>Oh oh oh like Yoda.

1206
01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:07.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah exactly.

1207
01:00:08.039 --> 01:00:11.000
<v Speaker 1>I well, that's the thing, like I think, I think

1208
01:00:11.039 --> 01:00:12.880
<v Speaker 1>the last you know, kind of the question I have

1209
01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:15.199
<v Speaker 1>for you is where where does Star Wars go for

1210
01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:17.519
<v Speaker 1>heat from here? As a franchise? Do they keep doing

1211
01:00:17.559 --> 01:00:19.760
<v Speaker 1>stuff like this? Do they make movies out of their

1212
01:00:19.760 --> 01:00:22.320
<v Speaker 1>TV shows? Like I just I haven't gotten the sinse

1213
01:00:22.880 --> 01:00:25.079
<v Speaker 1>people care about Star Wars the way that they used to.

1214
01:00:25.199 --> 01:00:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Like this, This was successful, but it wasn't as successful

1215
01:00:28.480 --> 01:00:30.960
<v Speaker 1>as I think they wanted it to be, like financially,

1216
01:00:31.039 --> 01:00:35.079
<v Speaker 1>and you know, critically, it's like literally more or less

1217
01:00:35.119 --> 01:00:38.400
<v Speaker 1>down the middle, like it's like sixty percent the reviews

1218
01:00:38.440 --> 01:00:41.800
<v Speaker 1>are positive. So I don't know, I'm curious what your

1219
01:00:41.800 --> 01:00:43.360
<v Speaker 1>thoughts are, because you know, you might be coming at

1220
01:00:43.360 --> 01:00:45.199
<v Speaker 1>this from a different direction because you're just a little

1221
01:00:45.199 --> 01:00:46.599
<v Speaker 1>bit older than I am. I have a little bit

1222
01:00:46.599 --> 01:00:48.519
<v Speaker 1>different feelings about Star Wars than I know you do

1223
01:00:48.599 --> 01:00:50.960
<v Speaker 1>because I grew up with it in a different way

1224
01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:51.360
<v Speaker 1>than you do.

1225
01:00:51.559 --> 01:00:53.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know if they're going to go. I

1226
01:00:53.679 --> 01:00:56.639
<v Speaker 2>don't know how many more television shows are going to make.

1227
01:00:56.920 --> 01:01:00.280
<v Speaker 2>I imagine they will continue to make television shows because

1228
01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:04.559
<v Speaker 2>I don't see them as costing that much, especially now

1229
01:01:04.599 --> 01:01:09.280
<v Speaker 2>that they've got that kind of valumetric the volume system, right.

1230
01:01:10.239 --> 01:01:12.639
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I have to say, you know, other than

1231
01:01:12.840 --> 01:01:16.440
<v Speaker 2>what you pointed out with the huts looking a little questionable,

1232
01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:18.840
<v Speaker 2>most of the movie looks really good.

1233
01:01:19.199 --> 01:01:19.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1234
01:01:19.639 --> 01:01:21.360
<v Speaker 1>For the Yeah, I think it looks better than that

1235
01:01:21.719 --> 01:01:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Punisher thing that they threw out there.

1236
01:01:23.599 --> 01:01:25.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh Jesus, Jesus.

1237
01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:28.079
<v Speaker 1>Christy, that's not John Burnhal falling off a roof, clearly,

1238
01:01:28.360 --> 01:01:29.079
<v Speaker 1>Oh Jesus.

1239
01:01:29.400 --> 01:01:31.559
<v Speaker 2>But you know, I know coming up they're going to

1240
01:01:31.639 --> 01:01:34.679
<v Speaker 2>do well. I can't say I know they're going to

1241
01:01:34.679 --> 01:01:36.760
<v Speaker 2>do because they've been now so many things over the

1242
01:01:36.800 --> 01:01:40.159
<v Speaker 2>years that they just are not doing anymore, you know,

1243
01:01:40.360 --> 01:01:42.760
<v Speaker 2>like there this was supposed to be the fourth season

1244
01:01:42.840 --> 01:01:46.519
<v Speaker 2>of The Mandalorian, but they're not doing it. I don't

1245
01:01:46.639 --> 01:01:50.440
<v Speaker 2>think they're going to do a Lando TV show. I

1246
01:01:50.559 --> 01:01:53.280
<v Speaker 2>don't think they're gonna do what was that There was

1247
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<v Speaker 2>like a oh, there's another title they kept, like the

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<v Speaker 2>Something of the New Republic or something thing. But apparently

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<v Speaker 2>they're supposed to do one called Starfighter.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's coming out, okay, Yeah, that's the one with

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Gossling that that that has been I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're done filming.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and then yeah, I guess there's also supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be one called New Jedi Order that goes back to

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<v Speaker 2>Ray so Ray Skywalker, so fuck me right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, then James Mangold is supposed to direct one as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Dave Filoni is supposed to get his own thing,

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<v Speaker 1>so all right, I'm you know, I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>I unfortunately think Star Wars has kind of just jumped

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<v Speaker 1>the shark. I think those those sequels were really bad,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think they've only gotten worse in retrospect looking

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<v Speaker 1>back on them, because I think the things that have

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<v Speaker 1>been good since, like Mandalorian even it kind of soured

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<v Speaker 1>itself because you know, the first season of that show

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<v Speaker 1>fucking amazing. Second season, like immediately it starts being diminishing, returns,

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<v Speaker 1>and then by the end of that season it's just like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to.

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<v Speaker 3>Get Luke Skywalker involved.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think Star Wars is best suited kind of

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<v Speaker 1>trying a couple different things, seeing what works, but always

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<v Speaker 1>leading with the same foot, which always seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>cutesy shit like, pair something exciting with something cutesy, and

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<v Speaker 1>that seems to be Star Wars nowadays. They even had

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<v Speaker 1>Porgs and Babu Frick in the new movies What was

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<v Speaker 1>own BB eight? Do? What was the thing in the

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<v Speaker 1>first Star Wars seane ABBA's BB eight Porgs and then

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<v Speaker 1>Babu Frick in that order, and then you know, Baby

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<v Speaker 1>Yoda is kind of like there there will be nothing

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<v Speaker 1>as cute for a while as Baby Yoda. Nobody's figured

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<v Speaker 1>out what that next thing is. Baby Yoda is still

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<v Speaker 1>kind of that cutesy pop culter thing that you can

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<v Speaker 1>go back to.

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<v Speaker 2>A please don't dead name Grogu.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh sorry, dead naming Grogu.

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<v Speaker 1>Does anybody call him Grogu other than Mandalorian.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good question. I imagine some of them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think he introduces him as Grogu and that baby Yoda,

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't think Mando knows who Yoda is.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yoda is a term that we as people outside

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<v Speaker 3>of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Universe, right, I would recommend. Now, I haven't seen the

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<v Speaker 2>second season of and Or, but I really enjoyed the

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01:04:16.480 --> 01:04:21.159
<v Speaker 2>first season that might eventually start to suffer from the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing we were talking about with Rings of Power,

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<v Speaker 2>where it's like, Okay, I know where this is going.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's that's what I like about Rings of Power,

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<v Speaker 2>is that we know where things are going in a

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<v Speaker 2>few thousand years, as opposed to and Or at some

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<v Speaker 2>point is going to tie right up to Rogue One.

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<v Speaker 2>But that first season is definitely pre you know, very

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<v Speaker 2>pre Rogue one, since everybody fucking dies in Rogue one.

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<v Speaker 2>Really cheerful movie. I sever mon, Matha, I guess, But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen the second season yet. I'm curious if

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<v Speaker 2>that's good. And then yeah, all the other Star Wars properties, Like, again,

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen The Acolyte. Is that what you mentioned?

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<v Speaker 1>It's not coming back. It's canceled after one.

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<v Speaker 2>Season because people couldn't stand it. And I'm just like, again,

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<v Speaker 2>I think there were probably too many women and people

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<v Speaker 2>of color in there. Oh my god. And I did

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<v Speaker 2>like that when it comes to Mandalorian and grogu, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>you could say that Mando is a human and Sigourney

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01:05:23.880 --> 01:05:28.280
<v Speaker 2>Weavers a human, but otherwise it's all creatures or other

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01:05:28.559 --> 01:05:31.880
<v Speaker 2>races that are the main characters. And I was absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>fine with that same say.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, like Zeb, you know, Zeb is not is

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01:05:35.559 --> 01:05:38.800
<v Speaker 3>not remotely human. So no, no, lots of robots.

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<v Speaker 1>Was there a shot of R two D two at

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<v Speaker 1>one point in the movie, Maybe there's droid being put

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<v Speaker 1>into an X wing it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it was like, I wasn't sure if that was

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<v Speaker 2>R two, if that was just another R two unit.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think R five D four might have been

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<v Speaker 2>in this one. I don't know, but I didn't look

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<v Speaker 2>up the I'm sure there's a ton of trivia about

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01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:03.519
<v Speaker 2>this movie and people just flip it out trying to

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01:06:03.519 --> 01:06:06.480
<v Speaker 2>make all the connections. But it's like, yeah, no, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good with what I saw on screen, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't need to dig dig dig deeper in this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm with you. I think it's very interesting. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you remember what the last standalone Star Wars movie that

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01:06:18.719 --> 01:06:19.880
<v Speaker 1>came out was?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it Solo?

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<v Speaker 3>It was solo? Okay twenty eight?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Rogue One, Solo and Mandalorian and grogu are the

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<v Speaker 1>three singular films so far that have been Star Wars

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<v Speaker 1>standalone films. I would put this above those two, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>you definitely, yes. I think Solo is still the one that,

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<v Speaker 1>like probably in the long run, has the most like

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<v Speaker 1>return viability because Alden aren Reich is such a good

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<v Speaker 1>actor and I think that, like I think he's actually

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<v Speaker 1>really good in that movie. I just think that movie

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<v Speaker 1>is just, I think, a fucking mess because of other things,

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01:06:52.800 --> 01:06:55.679
<v Speaker 1>like so many other things, namely like the Ron Howard

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01:06:55.719 --> 01:06:57.559
<v Speaker 1>of it all will never make sense to me why

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<v Speaker 1>they just didn't let Lord Miller do their thing. But

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<v Speaker 1>it least like Rope One is Gareth Edwards movie, but

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<v Speaker 1>it also had the acts taken to it, Like we

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01:07:05.760 --> 01:07:08.159
<v Speaker 1>know that about that movie, like when we did that

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01:07:08.239 --> 01:07:11.320
<v Speaker 1>episode about it, or at least I did. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>talking about there's shots from the trailer that are not

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<v Speaker 1>in the movie, and there's a lot of shots in

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<v Speaker 1>the trailer that are not from the movie, like they

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01:07:19.119 --> 01:07:21.960
<v Speaker 1>edited the whole movie, don't. Yeah, this is the first

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<v Speaker 1>one of these three that feels like this is one,

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<v Speaker 1>if not two or three people's singular vision and it's

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<v Speaker 1>executed the way that they want it. Is it as

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<v Speaker 1>much of a big swing as it needs to be? No,

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01:07:33.239 --> 01:07:35.440
<v Speaker 1>but not everything needs to be a swing for the fences,

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01:07:35.480 --> 01:07:38.639
<v Speaker 1>home runs sometimes and in the park single get somebody

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01:07:38.639 --> 01:07:40.400
<v Speaker 1>home from third base and you score the run and

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01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:43.039
<v Speaker 1>you win. Anyways, it doesn't always have to be this

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<v Speaker 1>big swing. And Star Wars, i think right now for me,

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<v Speaker 1>is in a position of like, you can't take big

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<v Speaker 1>swings because I'm not sure the public sentiment with Star

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<v Speaker 1>Wars is not where it used to be at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I think people have soured on Star Wars and just

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01:07:55.519 --> 01:07:57.960
<v Speaker 1>don't really care anymore. And Star Wars is gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to lot to do a lot to make up a

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01:07:59.800 --> 01:08:03.079
<v Speaker 1>lot that it's lost as a franchise because of people

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<v Speaker 1>that did a poor job with it and thought, let's

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<v Speaker 1>just give them a bunch of Star Wars all the

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01:08:07.000 --> 01:08:09.000
<v Speaker 1>time and the quality of it doesn't matter, and they'll

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<v Speaker 1>just eat it up. And it's like, no, they won't. Actually,

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01:08:11.800 --> 01:08:14.159
<v Speaker 1>they will not just eat it up. And they did

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<v Speaker 1>not just eat it up. And I'm glad to see

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01:08:16.920 --> 01:08:19.720
<v Speaker 1>that something like this is successful. Is it the most

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01:08:19.720 --> 01:08:22.359
<v Speaker 1>exciting thing I've ever seen. No, But if that's what

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01:08:22.399 --> 01:08:25.319
<v Speaker 1>people wanted, I'm sorry. That was never what this was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Chris, when you're not talking about Star Wars and

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01:08:28.640 --> 01:08:32.800
<v Speaker 2>scouring the Wikipedia for connections between all of these different characters,

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01:08:32.800 --> 01:08:34.000
<v Speaker 2>what keeps you busy? Sir?

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<v Speaker 1>You know that there's someone out there who's immensely offended

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01:08:36.920 --> 01:08:39.359
<v Speaker 1>that you're making fun of what they do every day.

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01:08:39.239 --> 01:08:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't care any more than you do. That's fine.

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01:08:43.520 --> 01:08:47.039
<v Speaker 1>I am scouring Wikipedia for all of the connections. I

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01:08:47.079 --> 01:08:51.520
<v Speaker 1>want to know if the salacious be Crumb character somehow

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01:08:51.600 --> 01:08:54.359
<v Speaker 1>ran into Hans Solo before he was in a job

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01:08:54.359 --> 01:08:55.319
<v Speaker 1>of the huts thrown room.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to know. I have to know.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you want to hear the things that I'm

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01:08:59.760 --> 01:09:01.720
<v Speaker 1>doing out in the public that aren't done in the

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01:09:01.880 --> 01:09:04.039
<v Speaker 1>secrecy and privacy of my own home, you can add

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01:09:04.039 --> 01:09:06.319
<v Speaker 1>on over to weirdingwaymedia dot com, where this show and

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01:09:06.399 --> 01:09:08.680
<v Speaker 1>all the shows I work on can be found, But

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<v Speaker 1>most importantly, the ones that I don't work on can

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01:09:10.720 --> 01:09:13.680
<v Speaker 1>be found there as well, like midnight Viewing, eighties TV ladies.

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<v Speaker 1>Whole host of things can be found over there, Mike Show,

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<v Speaker 1>the Projection Booth as well, so yeah, what about you, Mike,

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01:09:19.279 --> 01:09:20.479
<v Speaker 1>Where can people find you?

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01:09:20.720 --> 01:09:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, pretty much the same darn thing all the way

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01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:25.520
<v Speaker 2>down the line, other than the Patreon, which is patreon

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01:09:25.600 --> 01:09:28.479
<v Speaker 2>dot com slash projection booth where you can get early

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01:09:28.520 --> 01:09:31.960
<v Speaker 2>access to pretty much everything and all the shows that

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01:09:32.039 --> 01:09:34.560
<v Speaker 2>I work on and stuff. I try to post those

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01:09:34.560 --> 01:09:36.880
<v Speaker 2>out there as much as possible. So now we've got

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<v Speaker 2>a brand new show that we will be announcing probably

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<v Speaker 2>a few months from now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely towards the end of the year. You'll know

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<v Speaker 1>more about it if you're a fan of what we

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01:09:47.680 --> 01:09:49.520
<v Speaker 1>do with Rank and on Bond. It won't be a

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01:09:49.560 --> 01:09:52.359
<v Speaker 1>Patreon exclusive, like Mike said, but just do'll be able

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01:09:52.399 --> 01:09:53.800
<v Speaker 1>to get it ad free, so.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, a month early.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you so much for joining us and listening

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<v Speaker 1>to this episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks, thank you for pushing me to go see this movie,

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01:10:01.960 --> 01:10:03.720
<v Speaker 1>getting me out of the house to go enjoy the

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01:10:03.720 --> 01:10:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Mandalorian Wink wink, and yeah, we'll catch you on the

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<v Speaker 1>next next episode.