WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.799 --> 00:00:07.360 Well with the coming pain, my pain, the money, my ray. 2 00:00:07.799 --> 00:00:12.240 Oh why think alone when you can drink it all 3 00:00:12.279 --> 00:00:16.399 in with Ricochet's three Whiskey Happy Hour, join your bartenders 4 00:00:16.600 --> 00:00:22.120 Steve Hayward, John Yu and the International Woman of Mystery Lucretia. 5 00:00:25.480 --> 00:00:27.359 Where it stopped it up and David A. 6 00:00:27.960 --> 00:00:31.120 Beb on the show tap out a giv. 7 00:00:32.039 --> 00:00:36.520 Welcome everybody to the new and approved three Whiskey Happy Hour, 8 00:00:37.119 --> 00:00:40.560 now sponsored by the Civitas Institute of the University of 9 00:00:40.600 --> 00:00:46.200 Texas at Austin. Henceforth, we'll be adding Texas barbecue to 10 00:00:46.240 --> 00:00:49.880 our list of culinary obsessions along with the new mcarch 11 00:00:50.679 --> 00:00:55.240 this super Gumonga st Hamber. I actually think that we 12 00:00:55.320 --> 00:00:58.359 get McDonald's advertising because I was listening to the podcast 13 00:00:58.399 --> 00:01:01.520 and there was a McDonald's aad. Really then I noticed 14 00:01:01.560 --> 00:01:03.719 that was an ad for all the podcasts. 15 00:01:03.159 --> 00:01:04.719 I was listening to, So maybe. 16 00:01:08.959 --> 00:01:11.680 N Yeah, I think you have the wrong microphones selected 17 00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:15.519 to Oh yeah, I'm too loud. 18 00:01:15.959 --> 00:01:19.200 Well yeah, wrong microphone. 19 00:01:19.400 --> 00:01:19.840 There we go. 20 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:21.599 How's that that's way better? 21 00:01:21.840 --> 00:01:24.400 You know what actually against thee lesson so liter thing 22 00:01:24.480 --> 00:01:26.319 is uh you want me to redo it? 23 00:01:26.480 --> 00:01:28.200 Yeah, because you did a crap job of reading a 24 00:01:28.239 --> 00:01:35.480 script I gave you. What do you think? 25 00:01:35.680 --> 00:01:40.239 I know what. I'm sorry everyone, Jesus, you. 26 00:01:40.159 --> 00:01:42.480 Know again, the actor is only as good as the writing. 27 00:01:42.719 --> 00:01:46.040 Come on, go ahead and over again, John, what do 28 00:01:46.079 --> 00:01:48.560 you want to leave? Maybe you know what? I take 29 00:01:48.599 --> 00:01:50.400 it all back. He was your wrong microphone. That's why 30 00:01:50.400 --> 00:01:50.920 I thought that. 31 00:01:51.519 --> 00:01:54.840 Oh man, go ahead, Okay, ready, Okay, here we go again. 32 00:01:55.000 --> 00:02:00.480 Pretend you didn't hear anything. Okay. Welcome every buddy to 33 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:04.000 the new and improved three Whiskey Happy Hour, now sponsored 34 00:02:04.040 --> 00:02:08.800 by the Civitas Institute of the University of Texas at Austin. 35 00:02:09.560 --> 00:02:12.479 Because of our new sponsors, henceforth, we will be adding 36 00:02:12.759 --> 00:02:17.400 Texas Barbecue to our list of kulinary obsessions, with new 37 00:02:17.520 --> 00:02:21.319 libations to come depending on whether the advertisers send Steve 38 00:02:21.360 --> 00:02:24.759 Hayward more money like McDonald's and the big new mccarth. 39 00:02:25.879 --> 00:02:29.240 How's that? That was pretty good? I tell you I 40 00:02:29.319 --> 00:02:32.840 was going, I was. I'm really excited about this new Uh. 41 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:35.360 You know this is me Robert F. Kennedy agree on 42 00:02:35.439 --> 00:02:38.080 something at last, which is more meat patties and less 43 00:02:38.120 --> 00:02:40.759 bread and our burgers. It only came out this week 44 00:02:40.800 --> 00:02:42.680 and I haven't been able to get to McDonald's to 45 00:02:42.680 --> 00:02:45.199 get one because I've been eating too much Texas barbecue 46 00:02:45.360 --> 00:02:47.000 here in Austin, Texas. 47 00:02:47.319 --> 00:02:50.960 We but you also again, Yeah, but also John, you 48 00:02:51.080 --> 00:02:53.479 lost your BUCkies virginity this week, right, You went to 49 00:02:53.520 --> 00:02:56.960 your first BUCkies in all my great that was crazy. 50 00:02:57.120 --> 00:02:57.319 Yeah. 51 00:02:57.360 --> 00:02:59.919 I went to my first BUCkies, and I have to 52 00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:04.240 now confess that I think that they do beat Wahlah. 53 00:03:04.280 --> 00:03:07.960 I think i'd ever lived in this wow, but I got it. 54 00:03:08.520 --> 00:03:10.759 An apology, John, I gotta. 55 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:11.240 Tell you this. 56 00:03:11.240 --> 00:03:14.080 This beef jerky bar, I mean, have you I can't 57 00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:16.639 believe such a thing exins I was soap fee. There's 58 00:03:16.960 --> 00:03:20.919 twenty five thirty different flavors of beef jerky, and it's 59 00:03:20.919 --> 00:03:24.240 almost like they combined Wlahlah with Costco. I could go 60 00:03:24.280 --> 00:03:27.280 and ask for free sample tastes of any of the barbecue, 61 00:03:27.439 --> 00:03:29.400 any of the beef tokey. It was amazing. 62 00:03:29.879 --> 00:03:31.680 I'm surprised we even got you back from the place 63 00:03:31.719 --> 00:03:33.039 I thought you would just like camp out. 64 00:03:33.960 --> 00:03:36.120 Now. The weird thing is this is very Texas too. 65 00:03:36.120 --> 00:03:39.199 I suppose you guys explain this to me. There's so 66 00:03:39.319 --> 00:03:43.120 much food, drink, and as you guys predicted, the cleanest 67 00:03:43.360 --> 00:03:46.599 bathrooms of any rest stop I've ever seen, but no 68 00:03:46.759 --> 00:03:48.919 place to sit and eat. What's the deal with that? 69 00:03:49.520 --> 00:03:52.080 They just want you out? I'm not sure. 70 00:03:52.120 --> 00:03:54.919 That's an interesting question. I think I think they want 71 00:03:54.960 --> 00:03:56.439 people to take stuff to go and you know, eat 72 00:03:56.479 --> 00:03:58.599 in their cars and their rbs, or go someplace else. 73 00:03:58.719 --> 00:04:00.960 And I'll bet there's a theory on that. 74 00:04:02.520 --> 00:04:04.879 It's one of the I was just gonna say. One 75 00:04:04.879 --> 00:04:08.879 of the things that differentiated our time in Europe from 76 00:04:09.360 --> 00:04:14.560 what we experience in America the conveniences of paper cups 77 00:04:14.639 --> 00:04:17.360 and uh get get you on the road. You can 78 00:04:17.720 --> 00:04:22.160 have uh tablecloths for your lap, sort of things you 79 00:04:22.160 --> 00:04:26.199 can eat while with both hands while you're driving. In 80 00:04:26.279 --> 00:04:30.519 almost no place at least in Germany or Switzerland or 81 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:33.160 Italy that I visited, ever even had so much as 82 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:36.399 a paper coffee coffee cup or a disposable coffee cup. 83 00:04:36.480 --> 00:04:42.519 You you stop at roadside gas station and you sit 84 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:46.639 and you drink your coffee out of porcelain. And that's 85 00:04:46.839 --> 00:04:47.399 and so. 86 00:04:48.839 --> 00:04:51.480 They don't understand. They don't understand. 87 00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:53.720 The rest stops and and a lot of they may 88 00:04:53.759 --> 00:04:57.759 be different now, but the German cars don't have cup. 89 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:02.920 That's Mercedes and BMW we're very late in adding couple. 90 00:05:02.720 --> 00:05:05.240 Holders in the United States. Huh. 91 00:05:05.439 --> 00:05:07.199 Interesting because of because I didn't think you. 92 00:05:07.160 --> 00:05:08.720 Should get a bit different attitude. 93 00:05:09.439 --> 00:05:11.639 Yeah yeah, Or I. 94 00:05:11.519 --> 00:05:13.879 Just think you should sit there and take some time 95 00:05:14.079 --> 00:05:17.160 part of your thirty hour work week. The other ten 96 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:20.439 hours you can spend in a gas station drinking coffee 97 00:05:20.439 --> 00:05:21.439 out of course and cups. 98 00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:22.759 Yeah. Right. 99 00:05:23.319 --> 00:05:26.120 So my good friend, our good friend Phil Munos, who 100 00:05:26.279 --> 00:05:28.959 was I was talking to on the phone. He wants 101 00:05:29.000 --> 00:05:32.720 to join and the live chat, but he says, I 102 00:05:32.800 --> 00:05:35.680 refuse to pay Steve Hayward forty dollars a year. He doesn't. 103 00:05:36.279 --> 00:05:36.959 He doesn't happen. 104 00:05:37.319 --> 00:05:40.160 He's not paying any attention, right, Yeah, he's not paying 105 00:05:40.160 --> 00:05:40.879 any attention at all. 106 00:05:40.920 --> 00:05:43.480 I don't and he can pay me, but he doesn't 107 00:05:43.480 --> 00:05:44.160 need to pay Steve. 108 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:48.040 Look, if all it takes fifty bucks for us to 109 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:50.279 get philled to shut up, I'm happy to put the 110 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:51.279 whole barrier up there. 111 00:05:53.360 --> 00:05:56.040 Very nice. Our friend John Sound also joined. 112 00:05:56.560 --> 00:05:59.720 Oh right, So John Fund and I have a secret 113 00:05:59.720 --> 00:06:03.199 of side together, which is we are huge fans of 114 00:06:03.240 --> 00:06:07.160 The Prisoner, the English show of course TV show, which 115 00:06:07.199 --> 00:06:11.240 is amazing. And uh I sat there with him for 116 00:06:11.319 --> 00:06:15.079 an hour to conference where he explained all these secrets 117 00:06:15.079 --> 00:06:17.160 to the show I had, which I had seen many times. 118 00:06:17.160 --> 00:06:19.839 I had no idea. It was amazing. He is like, 119 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:23.240 well this is He's like a wizard guru of the prisoner. 120 00:06:23.279 --> 00:06:25.319 It was astounding. I learned so many things about the 121 00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:27.560 show from him. And for those of you who know, 122 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:30.720 it is about a spy who's kidnapped, but he doesn't 123 00:06:30.759 --> 00:06:33.399 know which side kidnapped him, and he's put in this 124 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:36.839 little village, which I think is called Port Marion. Is 125 00:06:36.839 --> 00:06:39.879 that what's called in England? Which is like this strange 126 00:06:40.800 --> 00:06:43.319 it looks like a Disneyland. It's like an Englishman's version 127 00:06:43.319 --> 00:06:47.040 of Disneyland. It's like fake city, fake things. But now 128 00:06:47.079 --> 00:06:48.920 after talking to him, I actually want to go visit 129 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:51.040 this town which exists, which you can go visit and 130 00:06:51.120 --> 00:06:52.360 hang out in, so I want to. 131 00:06:52.560 --> 00:06:54.439 I think it's uh, I think it's down on Cornwall 132 00:06:54.519 --> 00:06:56.399 or Devonshire. But John, I mean, this is obvious. You 133 00:06:56.399 --> 00:06:58.959 wouldn't know this. And why John fun does is that 134 00:06:59.040 --> 00:07:03.120 that was that was an early, very big hit with libertarians. 135 00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:05.480 I mean, that's it's part of the libertarian it's part 136 00:07:05.480 --> 00:07:07.560 of libertarian it's part of the libertarian canon. 137 00:07:07.680 --> 00:07:10.519 John, so oh, I didn't know that. Of course you don't, 138 00:07:10.560 --> 00:07:15.720 so I know nothing about it. It all up, Phil 139 00:07:16.199 --> 00:07:19.600 is this joint which means he cought for No, we didn't. 140 00:07:19.720 --> 00:07:25.920 Anybody quit giving disinformation, John, Okay. 141 00:07:26.439 --> 00:07:30.439 First issue of that, of course, is the Iran War. 142 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:33.920 And I want to defend Steve and I because we 143 00:07:34.040 --> 00:07:36.839 made a prediction at the end of the last podcast 144 00:07:37.160 --> 00:07:40.000 when we were asked by Lucretian whether we thought that 145 00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:43.319 there were the nicest to attack Iran, and we were criticized, 146 00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:45.439 I'm told because I don't read the comments, but people 147 00:07:45.480 --> 00:07:48.600 say my co host said we were criticized for getting 148 00:07:48.639 --> 00:07:51.240 it wrong. We did not get it wrong. Steve and 149 00:07:51.240 --> 00:07:56.079 I said that we would attack Iran within the next week. Well, 150 00:07:56.079 --> 00:07:59.079 I thought I attack Iran within the next week. 151 00:07:59.560 --> 00:08:00.920 But I. 152 00:08:00.480 --> 00:08:02.040 Thought I was pretty far out on the limbs saying 153 00:08:02.040 --> 00:08:03.439 I don't think it's gonna happen imminently. 154 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:05.600 I think it's got another few weeks to play out. 155 00:08:05.639 --> 00:08:07.399 But I did say that wasn't it. 156 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:11.600 Actually happening as we were actually giving time. Yeah, you know, 157 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:13.879 like in the morning. 158 00:08:14.480 --> 00:08:17.040 In the air from the era we were talking, so that, 159 00:08:17.079 --> 00:08:18.480 by the way, that's why I thought this week we 160 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:20.160 should offer our stock market picks. 161 00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:22.680 Since we were so lusty. 162 00:08:22.319 --> 00:08:27.839 We will run. Jesus, I know they're so lack confidence. Well, 163 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:29.000 we're totally right. 164 00:08:30.720 --> 00:08:33.679 And you guys didn't even respond to when you started 165 00:08:33.720 --> 00:08:37.440 in on your South Korean stock market nonsense, and I said, 166 00:08:37.759 --> 00:08:43.879 you can't even even come close to the Lucretia investment strategy. 167 00:08:44.320 --> 00:08:49.039 I kept telling mister Lucretia, I want my own gold bar, 168 00:08:49.639 --> 00:08:51.159 and I wouldn't do it. He wouldn't do it. He 169 00:08:51.159 --> 00:08:52.960 wouldn't do it, so I wouldn't bought my own at 170 00:08:53.080 --> 00:08:57.080 twenty one twenty one hundred dollars an ounce about a 171 00:08:57.200 --> 00:09:00.919 year ago. And guess how much money I have now 172 00:09:00.960 --> 00:09:04.679 in that nice little gold bar. So I'm very happy. 173 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:09.879 One fifty three sixty announced the last I saw. 174 00:09:10.279 --> 00:09:11.600 Yeah, it's actually down this week. 175 00:09:11.639 --> 00:09:14.720 I'm not sure howth which is kind of a surm No, 176 00:09:14.799 --> 00:09:16.080 but you would have thought it would have gone up 177 00:09:16.080 --> 00:09:17.039 along with oil prices. 178 00:09:17.200 --> 00:09:18.440 I still made a lot of money. 179 00:09:18.879 --> 00:09:24.120 Look, investments are going to be gold bars, ammunition and 180 00:09:24.279 --> 00:09:26.799 like that one years worth of freeze dried food. 181 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:32.720 Now again, I'm like you. The one thing I've ever 182 00:09:32.759 --> 00:09:34.799 agreed with you about John is I'm not too worried 183 00:09:34.799 --> 00:09:38.120 about having more than a month's supply of food because 184 00:09:38.159 --> 00:09:40.039 one way or the other, I'll get it because I 185 00:09:40.039 --> 00:09:44.440 have it. 186 00:09:46.200 --> 00:09:51.279 Okay, So the war, Oh yeah, Lucretia, do you think 187 00:09:51.279 --> 00:09:54.600 this is a big mistake? Aren't you the most mega 188 00:09:54.679 --> 00:09:57.960 person on the podcast? And isn't Mega up in arms 189 00:09:58.000 --> 00:10:03.240 about this neo comperson president who's achieving everything Tick Cheney 190 00:10:03.320 --> 00:10:06.120 wished we could have done in the first the second 191 00:10:06.159 --> 00:10:09.960 Persian administrations. Christian, what do you think about the Iran War? 192 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:16.799 I do think that Iran is It's certainly an existential 193 00:10:16.799 --> 00:10:21.159 threat to Israel. We have been at war technically, I 194 00:10:21.200 --> 00:10:24.200 think you could say, at least from Iran the writing 195 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:27.799 point of view, since nineteen seventy nine. I'm old enough 196 00:10:27.840 --> 00:10:31.879 to remember watching our hostages, watching the United States be 197 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:37.519 humiliated by those Muslim islam skum people in Iran, and 198 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:40.559 I'm very glad to see them go. And the fact 199 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:43.440 I don't see a lot of people commenting about this, 200 00:10:43.559 --> 00:10:49.519 but the fact that they are that Iran is attacking 201 00:10:49.639 --> 00:10:53.679 all of those other Middle Eastern states seems to me 202 00:10:53.759 --> 00:10:56.519 to be really stupid on their part. I don't really 203 00:10:56.639 --> 00:10:59.720 quite follow what the idea behind that is. Do they 204 00:10:59.720 --> 00:11:02.120 expe fact that they'll just cower and say, oh, we're 205 00:11:02.120 --> 00:11:04.799 going to join back up with you or something. Maybe 206 00:11:04.799 --> 00:11:06.320 you guys can explain that one to me. But I 207 00:11:06.360 --> 00:11:09.559 am I am one hundred percent behind Trump and hag 208 00:11:09.679 --> 00:11:12.440 Seth on this, and I do not believe that this 209 00:11:12.600 --> 00:11:16.639 is a Neocon attack. I hope it doesn't last a 210 00:11:16.639 --> 00:11:19.720 long time. I don't think it's a forever war. I 211 00:11:19.759 --> 00:11:24.200 do believe many of you saw my ex posts that 212 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:26.799 this is that forever wars are a choice. Choice is 213 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:30.919 made by by corrupt politicians to make sure that they 214 00:11:30.919 --> 00:11:35.039 can the funnel millions and probably billions of dollars to 215 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:37.039 their friends. This is not one of those. 216 00:11:40.840 --> 00:11:43.960 You might have seen today that the President demanded the 217 00:11:44.159 --> 00:11:50.440 unconditional surrender, which he qualified a good IDEA big mistake. 218 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:53.159 Well, I mean you mean he qualified in the sense 219 00:11:53.200 --> 00:11:55.080 of saying I want to have a say in it. 220 00:11:56.080 --> 00:12:00.240 He qualified by saying he qualified by saying that an 221 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:03.759 unconditional surrender did not necessarily mean that a non existent 222 00:12:04.679 --> 00:12:07.960 current leadership would come down and raise a white flag. 223 00:12:08.320 --> 00:12:12.159 It meant that their military capabilities would be completely destroyed. 224 00:12:12.440 --> 00:12:16.080 It will not he qualified it by saying it would 225 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:22.360 not require someone whoever, whomever that might be, to come 226 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:25.440 out and say we unconditionally surrender. 227 00:12:25.840 --> 00:12:28.360 Plus yeah, well he said something in the same treat 228 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:31.600 about wanting to pick the next leadership of Iran in 229 00:12:31.639 --> 00:12:34.879 there too, which is kind of like unconditional surrender. 230 00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:37.120 Yeah, I mean, I think if yeah, I mean, I 231 00:12:37.120 --> 00:12:39.960 think that qualification means it's not really unconditional surrender, or 232 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:41.879 certainly not the way it was meant in World War Two, 233 00:12:42.200 --> 00:12:44.639 which there's a live argument now about whether it was 234 00:12:44.720 --> 00:12:47.039 a mistake to do that back then. Now, I do 235 00:12:47.120 --> 00:12:49.080 think it should be said two things. One is, there's 236 00:12:49.279 --> 00:12:52.600 several surveys out showing overwhelming Republican support for Trump on this. 237 00:12:53.679 --> 00:12:56.159 But I think beyond that, if you go back ten 238 00:12:56.240 --> 00:12:59.559 years now, Trump was of course a great critic of 239 00:12:59.639 --> 00:13:02.480 the you know, Iran and Iraq war, stupid wars overseas, 240 00:13:02.799 --> 00:13:05.919 but he's never been a total non interventionist. He never 241 00:13:06.240 --> 00:13:10.039 joined with the hardcore MAGA people about being down on Ukraine. 242 00:13:10.039 --> 00:13:14.039 He was always conditional about that right, and of course 243 00:13:14.039 --> 00:13:15.919 we sawt in the first term, especially with the killing 244 00:13:15.960 --> 00:13:18.320 with Solo money. He says, a man not averse to 245 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:21.879 using some force in the matter. So I think we 246 00:13:21.879 --> 00:13:24.399 shouldn't be surprised. And I don't think the Iranian should 247 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:26.679 have thought that they could have bluff Trump through by 248 00:13:26.679 --> 00:13:29.519 stringing him out as long as they did, even although 249 00:13:29.559 --> 00:13:31.639 I think now what we know is it took time 250 00:13:31.679 --> 00:13:35.519 to prepare this operation. It's really quite impressive. And I'll say, 251 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:38.759 to me, the most significant thing of the week, and 252 00:13:38.759 --> 00:13:42.559 I'm trying to pick on things that what won't be 253 00:13:42.639 --> 00:13:45.240 rendered obsolete by events in the next twenty four hours 254 00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:47.159 or so. But to me, the most significant thing of 255 00:13:47.200 --> 00:13:51.080 the week was the sinking of the Iranian destroyer out 256 00:13:51.120 --> 00:13:54.320 in the open ocean. What a couple thousand miles away 257 00:13:54.360 --> 00:13:55.559 from the battle for right? 258 00:13:55.759 --> 00:13:57.279 Why is that important to me? 259 00:13:57.320 --> 00:13:57.360 That? 260 00:13:57.440 --> 00:13:58.399 Why is that significant? 261 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:00.720 Game? That's just because I can see in your bookshelves 262 00:14:00.759 --> 00:14:05.200 you have the game Battleship back there you put the 263 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:10.919 little things? Yeah, too far you hit my battleship. Heyward's 264 00:14:10.919 --> 00:14:12.840 a big fan of that game. Yeah. 265 00:14:12.960 --> 00:14:14.679 No, I think why you're thinking about. 266 00:14:14.480 --> 00:14:17.240 An Iranian destroyer out near Sri Lanka important? 267 00:14:17.720 --> 00:14:19.240 Well, I think it's important for this reason. 268 00:14:19.279 --> 00:14:21.720 I mean, look, they we easily could have said, and 269 00:14:21.799 --> 00:14:24.200 I think by the way any other administration would have 270 00:14:24.279 --> 00:14:27.039 sent some message through the Indians or somebody, you can't 271 00:14:27.039 --> 00:14:29.159 sail that ship back to your country. You need to 272 00:14:29.159 --> 00:14:32.200 be quarantined in uh, in India or straight Lanka for 273 00:14:32.200 --> 00:14:34.559 the duration of whatever, of however long this goes on. 274 00:14:34.799 --> 00:14:37.000 We did that kind of sort of with a couple 275 00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:38.720 of German ships in World War Two. You know, they 276 00:14:38.759 --> 00:14:42.720 steamed Harguay and stayed there for the whole war. Uh Instead, 277 00:14:42.799 --> 00:14:45.200 the signal it sends is we really do mean it. 278 00:14:45.279 --> 00:14:47.279 We're not gonna We're not pussy footing around here. We're 279 00:14:47.279 --> 00:14:51.200 gonna do absolutely everything to degrade your military, and if 280 00:14:51.200 --> 00:14:56.200 that means shooting your your your top line brand new ships, practically, 281 00:14:56.279 --> 00:14:59.240 I understand that we're gonna do all that. It reminded 282 00:14:59.279 --> 00:15:01.679 me I've been you know, I thought to myself, I 283 00:15:01.759 --> 00:15:04.720 haven't had a good analogy for a while to annoy Lucretia. 284 00:15:05.200 --> 00:15:08.240 But it reminds me. It's not identical, but it does 285 00:15:08.320 --> 00:15:11.039 remind me, and I dusted off my old Churchill old 286 00:15:11.080 --> 00:15:13.480 books to look it up. You know. 287 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:16.519 In July of nineteen forty till only three weeks after 288 00:15:16.559 --> 00:15:20.679 France had capitulated the Germans and The terms included the 289 00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:23.519 French fleet was supposed to be surrendered to the Germans 290 00:15:23.559 --> 00:15:27.039 or Italians, and a lot of the French navy said, 291 00:15:27.080 --> 00:15:28.679 we won't do it, We'll defect to the British. We 292 00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:31.080 don't want to do that. But some stayed loyal to 293 00:15:31.200 --> 00:15:33.879 Vischi and said they were going to submit. So what 294 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:37.200 did Churchill do? He told them, you either submit to 295 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:39.759 us or we sink your fleet. He didn't want to 296 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:42.320 do that. In fact, even though Churchill was cheered for 297 00:15:42.519 --> 00:15:44.360 he did that, he did sink the fleet in Iran. 298 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:48.759 Many hundreds of French sailors who weeks before were Allies 299 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:52.159 were killed in that raid, and Churchill was cheered in 300 00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:55.279 the House of Commons. He was personally very upset and 301 00:15:55.320 --> 00:15:57.120 depressed about it because he really didn't want to do 302 00:15:57.159 --> 00:15:58.120 it but thought he had to. 303 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:01.080 But most important was what he called later the moral 304 00:16:01.120 --> 00:16:02.080 effect of it. 305 00:16:02.519 --> 00:16:06.399 And it emerged later that Franklin Roosevelt took note of 306 00:16:06.440 --> 00:16:09.600 that and said, ah, that was the moment we know 307 00:16:09.679 --> 00:16:12.440 that Churchill meant it about winning, and that was the moment. 308 00:16:12.480 --> 00:16:15.639 By the way, Roosevelt turned on his ambassador to Great Britain, 309 00:16:15.879 --> 00:16:18.639 one Joseph Kennedy, you remember who kept saying anyone's finished, 310 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:19.600 We shouldn't try and. 311 00:16:19.600 --> 00:16:20.080 Help these guys. 312 00:16:20.120 --> 00:16:23.080 It's hopeless, right, And that's when Roosevelt said, no, these 313 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:24.679 guys are actually going to win, and they just showed 314 00:16:24.679 --> 00:16:25.120 me why. 315 00:16:25.720 --> 00:16:27.200 And so I think there's something like that. 316 00:16:27.279 --> 00:16:30.639 I think the moral effect of thinking that ship is 317 00:16:30.759 --> 00:16:32.919 quite dramatic, and you got to be. 318 00:16:32.840 --> 00:16:35.879 A signal to everybody that we really mean business. 319 00:16:36.159 --> 00:16:38.919 Well, I think the more important thing that happened this 320 00:16:39.000 --> 00:16:43.399 week is it proved what an absolute moron, idiot, incompetent 321 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:49.559 white lily lily livered boob what Barack Obama was. 322 00:16:51.960 --> 00:16:52.679 Evidence of that. 323 00:16:53.440 --> 00:16:57.720 So now, yeah, now, not only has his signature domestic 324 00:16:58.960 --> 00:17:02.600 supposed a chief been proven to be an unmitigated disaster 325 00:17:03.399 --> 00:17:08.279 Obamacare if you're not following that, one his supposed great 326 00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:15.559 uh international Florid affairs achievement, you know, dropping literally hallets 327 00:17:15.599 --> 00:17:18.599 of cash, millions and millions of dollars on the Iranians 328 00:17:18.599 --> 00:17:21.960 in order to keep them from pursuing their nuclear weapons, which, 329 00:17:21.960 --> 00:17:24.519 of course you know he was just what a patsy 330 00:17:24.599 --> 00:17:29.000 he is? What everything about that man is despicable, including 331 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:30.400 his choice of wives. 332 00:17:30.880 --> 00:17:36.039 Oh no, no, I'll be done so Okaya. You know 333 00:17:36.079 --> 00:17:40.359 when when you remember Missus Obama said something like when 334 00:17:40.400 --> 00:17:43.279 they go low, we go high, but then dragged them. 335 00:17:43.279 --> 00:17:48.599 That is high. That's the highest phrase I can think 336 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:50.599 of for either one of them. I'm done. 337 00:17:50.920 --> 00:17:53.240 So, Lucretia, let me ask you this about what's going 338 00:17:53.279 --> 00:17:55.759 on in Iran because it ties back to your question 339 00:17:55.839 --> 00:17:58.559 of what does Iran do? They start buying off missiles 340 00:17:58.559 --> 00:18:02.480 at everybody, even people trying to help them. Is it 341 00:18:02.519 --> 00:18:06.400 the Iranian strategy just to try to destabilize the Middle 342 00:18:06.440 --> 00:18:09.920 East as badly as possible and the hope this will 343 00:18:10.079 --> 00:18:12.720 put pressure on the Trump administration to end the war 344 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:15.960 earlier than at once. And is it that a worry 345 00:18:16.079 --> 00:18:19.240 that the Mega Wing that you used to be a 346 00:18:19.279 --> 00:18:21.920 member of what seemed to be no longer was mostly 347 00:18:21.960 --> 00:18:24.680 worried about, was that this would just drag the United 348 00:18:24.720 --> 00:18:28.559 States into, you know, another quagmire in the Middle East. 349 00:18:28.640 --> 00:18:31.000 Is this not going to be another Iraq that We're 350 00:18:31.039 --> 00:18:34.480 going to have to come in and clean everything up 351 00:18:34.599 --> 00:18:37.759 and in all these destabilized countries and as a result, 352 00:18:37.799 --> 00:18:39.880 we're going to get stuck again. 353 00:18:40.599 --> 00:18:43.359 No, I don't believe that's going to happen. Number One, 354 00:18:43.680 --> 00:18:46.640 Number one. I refuse to be put in dumb categories. 355 00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:49.559 I am not going to be put into a neocon 356 00:18:49.720 --> 00:18:52.440 or non neocon or any of those dumb categories. I 357 00:18:52.480 --> 00:18:56.319 don't know about Mega. I do believe in making America great, 358 00:18:56.400 --> 00:18:59.440 and I do believe in America first. I believe that 359 00:18:59.559 --> 00:19:04.240 our actual in Iran are America first. I also believe 360 00:19:04.559 --> 00:19:09.160 that if how do I say this differently, if you 361 00:19:09.240 --> 00:19:15.720 think about the culture, the religion, the societal situation, environment 362 00:19:15.799 --> 00:19:20.799 atmosphere in Iran and compare that to Afghanistan for instance, 363 00:19:21.359 --> 00:19:26.720 or even Iraq, I mean, there's possibilities for the Persian 364 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:30.559 people that were probably never possibilities. Let me give you 365 00:19:30.599 --> 00:19:34.200 this example. Trump didn't go in there saying, oh. 366 00:19:34.079 --> 00:19:37.839 Whatever we do, we can't have people be islamaphobes, and 367 00:19:38.119 --> 00:19:40.559 Islam is a religion of peace, and whatever you do, 368 00:19:40.559 --> 00:19:45.519 don't go around these prejudicial against Islam and Muslims. 369 00:19:45.640 --> 00:19:47.839 You know he knows better than that. That was George 370 00:19:47.880 --> 00:19:53.240 Bush's stupid, moronic Oh I think even But anyway, no, 371 00:19:53.359 --> 00:19:55.480 I don't think it's that. I think I do think 372 00:19:55.599 --> 00:20:02.319 America's security will be enhanced by regime toppling. I don't 373 00:20:02.400 --> 00:20:05.359 know that we have to do that all ourselves. I 374 00:20:05.440 --> 00:20:08.319 think the Persian people are and I'm gonna call them 375 00:20:08.319 --> 00:20:12.079 the Persian people, Steve, are going to take that on themselves. 376 00:20:12.599 --> 00:20:19.039 And you know they're they're closer to Western people than 377 00:20:19.279 --> 00:20:22.680 or were than probably anybody in the Middle East other 378 00:20:22.759 --> 00:20:27.279 than the Israelis. Anyway, I think I'm gonna support Trump 379 00:20:27.319 --> 00:20:29.799 throughout this. I know you're gonna go on to the 380 00:20:29.799 --> 00:20:32.640 next question, so I won't. I won't preempt you about it. 381 00:20:32.680 --> 00:20:36.640 But I think the Democrats' responses to this are not 382 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:45.079 just disingenuous, lying and all of that, but but I 383 00:20:45.079 --> 00:20:48.440 think they're harmful. I think that they're an American and 384 00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:51.599 that I can't believe that they hate Trump so much 385 00:20:51.640 --> 00:20:54.279 that they're doing what they're doing. But I'll but Steve 386 00:20:54.400 --> 00:20:55.960 made a couple of faces at me, So. 387 00:20:56.200 --> 00:20:57.240 Let me Steve. 388 00:20:57.279 --> 00:21:01.000 One question, maybe to prompt more from you, is does 389 00:21:01.079 --> 00:21:05.160 the Trump administration really have an endgame here that's achievable? 390 00:21:05.640 --> 00:21:08.319 President Trump seems to think that there will be an 391 00:21:08.400 --> 00:21:12.519 uprising by the Iranian people to overthrow any government. We 392 00:21:12.559 --> 00:21:15.240 don't really, but was that really going to happen when 393 00:21:15.319 --> 00:21:17.680 all the guns are in the hands of the regime 394 00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:20.480 and you have. Of course, millions of people clearly would 395 00:21:20.559 --> 00:21:22.240 like to be free of this regime, but they have 396 00:21:22.359 --> 00:21:25.720 no means to carry it out. And if they can't, 397 00:21:25.960 --> 00:21:29.200 then what's the What is the endgame without any kind 398 00:21:29.200 --> 00:21:31.559 of rebellion? Are we just going to keep bombing them 399 00:21:31.720 --> 00:21:35.640 and bombing them until what happens? That's the question? What 400 00:21:35.799 --> 00:21:38.279 is the end game here? Steve? 401 00:21:38.440 --> 00:21:40.359