WEBVTT 1 00:00:13.599 --> 00:00:16.199 Welcome to dorky Out. My name is Sonia Mansfield and 2 00:00:16.239 --> 00:00:20.719 you're overcooking my grits coach. Joining me is my podcasting 3 00:00:20.800 --> 00:00:23.559 sister from another Mister and the coast of dorking Out, 4 00:00:23.559 --> 00:00:25.280 Margot d Hello, my friend. 5 00:00:26.120 --> 00:00:27.239 Does the terms. 6 00:00:27.399 --> 00:00:29.960 Unusual punishment have any meaning to you? 7 00:00:30.879 --> 00:00:35.320 None at all? None at all. It's Super Bowl weekend, 8 00:00:36.079 --> 00:00:38.840 so we've decided to talk about a football movie. We 9 00:00:38.880 --> 00:00:42.799 are dorking out about two thousands, remember the Titans. This 10 00:00:42.920 --> 00:00:45.479 is a Margo pick. Margo loves the same. 11 00:00:46.280 --> 00:00:48.799 Hi. Yeah, you can blame me if you're upset. 12 00:00:49.240 --> 00:00:52.840 No, no, no, nobody should be upset because there's there's 13 00:00:52.880 --> 00:00:54.759 nothing to be upset about with this movie. 14 00:00:55.119 --> 00:00:57.719 It delivers what it's supposed to exactly. 15 00:00:57.960 --> 00:01:01.399 It's directed here you go, boz Yankin, I think is 16 00:01:01.399 --> 00:01:04.599 how you pronounce it. Written by Gregory Alan Howard, it 17 00:01:04.640 --> 00:01:10.239 stars Denzil Washington, Will patten Wood Harris, who I apparently 18 00:01:10.319 --> 00:01:13.959 he was a professional football player at some point, but 19 00:01:14.079 --> 00:01:16.799 I always know him as Avon Barksdale from the Wire. 20 00:01:17.359 --> 00:01:18.359 That's what I know him from. 21 00:01:18.439 --> 00:01:20.439 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I haven't seen The Wire. 22 00:01:20.439 --> 00:01:24.760 In ages and Ryan Hurst, Donald Faison in the Donald 23 00:01:24.799 --> 00:01:25.640 Faison role. 24 00:01:25.879 --> 00:01:30.120 Who does Donald better than Donald Nobody. 25 00:01:31.359 --> 00:01:33.200 He's fucking got it figured out. 26 00:01:33.319 --> 00:01:35.680 He really does. And he's got like he's got that 27 00:01:35.799 --> 00:01:39.959 goofy smile and he doesn't age. No, he looks exactly 28 00:01:40.040 --> 00:01:44.599 the same, same he and our Cinio Hall and Peggy Lipped. 29 00:01:44.599 --> 00:01:47.280 It looks for people like it's Christy Brinkley, Like they 30 00:01:47.280 --> 00:01:49.719 don't age, they're the same. Weird. 31 00:01:50.439 --> 00:01:50.959 Yeah. 32 00:01:51.239 --> 00:01:58.359 Uh, Ethan Soulfly, so play you play. He's really I 33 00:01:58.359 --> 00:02:00.000 think he's really good in this too. 34 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:02.079 He's so good he makes me cry. 35 00:02:02.439 --> 00:02:06.439 Yeah. And then Hayden a little baby Hayden Panetary. 36 00:02:07.239 --> 00:02:12.439 Yes, she's She's just a little we wandered adorable. 37 00:02:12.599 --> 00:02:14.159 Everybody drank, everybody drink. 38 00:02:14.479 --> 00:02:19.800 Also, little baby Ryan Gosling so good, so cute. 39 00:02:20.919 --> 00:02:22.199 Yep, what a cutie. 40 00:02:22.280 --> 00:02:28.240 And then Kit Pardue as Ronnie Sunshine, who would. 41 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:31.919 Have been totally my type. Oh my god the seventies 42 00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:32.879 I went to high school. 43 00:02:32.879 --> 00:02:34.840 I would be following him around, Oh my. 44 00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:37.840 God, every like all the girls like looking at him. 45 00:02:37.879 --> 00:02:40.960 Oh yeah, and they're like he's from California and they're like, 46 00:02:41.199 --> 00:02:42.080 who cares? 47 00:02:42.360 --> 00:02:45.360 Who cares? I get it. I'm like totally like. 48 00:02:45.960 --> 00:02:47.560 He would have, He could have had all of this, 49 00:02:47.759 --> 00:02:50.680 He could have had all of this love. If you 50 00:02:50.879 --> 00:02:54.800 haven't seen Remember the Titans, which I hadn't. I thought 51 00:02:54.800 --> 00:02:57.120 I had and watched this and was like, I have 52 00:02:57.280 --> 00:03:02.360 not seen this. You should you probably we're gonna spoil it, 53 00:03:02.400 --> 00:03:04.479 but you probably know where it's going because it's based 54 00:03:04.520 --> 00:03:06.680 on a true story and it's pretty obvious where it's going. 55 00:03:07.039 --> 00:03:12.120 It's said in nineteen seventy one in Alexandria, Virginia, the 56 00:03:12.159 --> 00:03:15.919 schools are integrating. Guess what people have thoughts and feelings 57 00:03:15.960 --> 00:03:18.719 about that, and that includes the football team. So they 58 00:03:19.199 --> 00:03:23.520 Denzel Washington was the coach at the black school, Will 59 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:26.199 Patton was the coach at the white school. They integrate, 60 00:03:26.840 --> 00:03:29.919 they make Denzel Washington the head coach over Will Patton, 61 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:35.159 which he is not pleased about it first, but you know, 62 00:03:35.560 --> 00:03:39.960 joins the team anyway, and racial tensions run high, to 63 00:03:40.000 --> 00:03:44.639 say the least. But if they want to win, they 64 00:03:44.680 --> 00:03:46.520 have to work as a team. They have to work 65 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:52.439 as a team. And this movie is you could put 66 00:03:52.479 --> 00:03:55.199 it in a block with something like Friday Night Lights 67 00:03:55.280 --> 00:04:01.240 that really capture how big high school football is. Some communities, 68 00:04:01.479 --> 00:04:06.000 like the whole community is obsessed with the high school 69 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:10.199 football team and they root for them. They everyone goes 70 00:04:10.240 --> 00:04:12.400 to all the games, whether you have kids in the 71 00:04:12.439 --> 00:04:15.879 school or not. They you know, all the restaurants have 72 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:18.199 their signs like that they can like eat and drink 73 00:04:18.240 --> 00:04:20.800 for free or whatever until they eat them out of. 74 00:04:20.959 --> 00:04:23.319 Until exactly that. I crack up every live. 75 00:04:24.720 --> 00:04:28.800 But like, I think this really captures that sort of vibe. 76 00:04:30.600 --> 00:04:32.800 And this movie's really good, Margot, I'm glad. 77 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:34.160 Oh good, thank god. 78 00:04:34.199 --> 00:04:35.600 I was worried you would be like, no. 79 00:04:35.439 --> 00:04:40.120 No, no, like it it. You know exactly where it's going. 80 00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:44.879 It's they're no surprises really with it. Yeah, but at 81 00:04:44.879 --> 00:04:48.839 the same time they do stick. You know, it's formulate storytelling. 82 00:04:49.079 --> 00:04:52.879 It's about people becoming nicer people, but some people don't. 83 00:04:52.879 --> 00:04:54.160 Some people stay assholes. 84 00:04:54.920 --> 00:04:56.800 There is that party is like, oh my god, it 85 00:04:56.839 --> 00:04:59.839 was so different back then fifty years ago, Like is 86 00:04:59.879 --> 00:05:05.839 it though, yeah's happening happening right now right now. It's whatever. 87 00:05:06.279 --> 00:05:08.399 I don't I just find it a very I mean, 88 00:05:08.439 --> 00:05:10.839 I do like sports stories because of that, because it's 89 00:05:10.879 --> 00:05:14.600 usually about overcoming stuff, and it's overcoming the mental and 90 00:05:14.600 --> 00:05:19.079 the physical. And that's why I enjoy about sports and 91 00:05:19.160 --> 00:05:20.839 I it's like I was saying to you yesterday, like 92 00:05:20.879 --> 00:05:23.199 it's a lot of cute boys, it's got really good music. 93 00:05:23.600 --> 00:05:27.759 It's you know, it's a really good message that they're sending. Yeah, 94 00:05:27.800 --> 00:05:30.120 I don't think it's too sweet either. It could be 95 00:05:30.199 --> 00:05:34.000 a lot more syrupy, you know, in the wrong hands. 96 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:35.839 I think it's like I think there's sometimes where it's 97 00:05:35.839 --> 00:05:39.879 almost like jarring, how really it is, like how the 98 00:05:40.720 --> 00:05:41.560 racism and stuff. 99 00:05:41.600 --> 00:05:42.800 But that's a good thing, I think. 100 00:05:43.040 --> 00:05:48.839 Yeah, And Denzel Washington's character is not the most likable exactly, 101 00:05:48.920 --> 00:05:52.480 Like they don't they don't sugarcoat him. I'm not sure 102 00:05:52.519 --> 00:05:56.360 he ever particularly like he's really really hard on this team. 103 00:05:56.439 --> 00:05:59.920 He takes over and he really busts their ass, like 104 00:06:00.199 --> 00:06:03.079 he does try like a boot camp. Like there is 105 00:06:03.079 --> 00:06:05.720 a point where like one of the players asks for 106 00:06:05.800 --> 00:06:08.720 water and he's like waters for cowards or some shit, 107 00:06:08.800 --> 00:06:11.079 and like makes them all fucking run until they puke. 108 00:06:11.360 --> 00:06:12.920 And it's like, well, that's not cool. 109 00:06:13.720 --> 00:06:16.199 But it's also the seventies for sure. And I know 110 00:06:16.399 --> 00:06:20.800 when I was a kid, our schools were like because 111 00:06:20.800 --> 00:06:22.600 I grew up in the East Coast, It's like it 112 00:06:22.639 --> 00:06:24.079 was either too hot or too cold. 113 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:26.079 Yeah, it was like you had a fucking deal with it. 114 00:06:26.399 --> 00:06:28.480 And I knew a lot of guys that were into 115 00:06:28.519 --> 00:06:31.120 sports in football that Yeah, they would pass out on 116 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:35.759 the sidelines when they had to start practicing in August. Yeah, 117 00:06:35.920 --> 00:06:39.839 it's humid. They do two a days, which are brutal. 118 00:06:40.639 --> 00:06:43.480 It still happens, by the way, every year around the 119 00:06:43.560 --> 00:06:46.199 end of summer, you'll hear about unfortunately, you'll hear about 120 00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:49.360 football camps in this country, football camps around the country 121 00:06:49.399 --> 00:06:53.040 where kids are passing out, killing over, if not dying, yes, 122 00:06:53.240 --> 00:06:55.279 because actually, yeah. 123 00:06:55.560 --> 00:06:59.959 They they gloss over that pretty cool, Like he doesn't 124 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:01.240 learn to be nicer. 125 00:07:02.240 --> 00:07:03.720 No, that's not his journey. 126 00:07:03.959 --> 00:07:10.399 No, that's not his journey. It's not with the movies about. 127 00:07:07.560 --> 00:07:11.600 Right, and appears the guy was a real asshole in 128 00:07:11.600 --> 00:07:14.480 real life, Like he's not very likable like that, like 129 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:16.240 kind of a bad coach. 130 00:07:16.319 --> 00:07:17.560 Really, I mean it was abusive. 131 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:21.199 Yeah, but that's not the story we're telling here exactly. 132 00:07:21.279 --> 00:07:24.160 And there's no arc for him, Like he's right, he's 133 00:07:24.199 --> 00:07:27.480 the same from the beginning to the end. Will Patton. 134 00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:31.720 He has a little bit of an arc, like, yeah, 135 00:07:32.439 --> 00:07:34.120 a little bit of way. It's really more for the 136 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:37.920 it's the students that go through a change, like they're 137 00:07:37.920 --> 00:07:41.759 the ones that there A lot of the white kids 138 00:07:41.759 --> 00:07:45.720 are really they're fucking racist because they were they grew 139 00:07:45.800 --> 00:07:46.839 up that way there. 140 00:07:46.879 --> 00:07:50.160 If you meet the parents there and the community, it 141 00:07:50.279 --> 00:07:56.120 is a very segregated community. Yeah, and Virginia is considered 142 00:07:56.199 --> 00:07:58.839 the South in America if you're not familiar, even though 143 00:07:58.839 --> 00:08:03.000 it's on the East Coast. And uh, yeah, like we said, 144 00:08:03.160 --> 00:08:05.920 it's like in the sixties. You know, in the seventies 145 00:08:06.040 --> 00:08:08.439 there was a lot of bussing that was happening, so 146 00:08:08.639 --> 00:08:11.800 kids were being bussed to different schools and the interest 147 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:16.279 of quality or trying to level things out. So in 148 00:08:16.319 --> 00:08:18.720 this school they're having it's like they had a black 149 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:20.199 high school in a white high school and now they're 150 00:08:20.240 --> 00:08:23.800 mixing them both together. And uh, people are freaked out. 151 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:26.720 And they did, and we need to understand that. And 152 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:27.680 they still do, by the. 153 00:08:27.600 --> 00:08:30.519 Way, Yeah, they still people still freak out about this. 154 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:33.000 I know mine, I'm in Brooklyn, like where I go 155 00:08:33.080 --> 00:08:35.120 to you know, where I don't. I don't have kids, 156 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:37.120 but where people have kids in schools, it's a big 157 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:39.639 deal to get them in a local like within a 158 00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:42.600 few block radius the school's there, because if you don't, 159 00:08:42.639 --> 00:08:45.039 then you're on your your kids on a subway. 160 00:08:44.720 --> 00:08:45.200 Half the day. 161 00:08:45.919 --> 00:08:50.320 Yeah, you know. San Francisco has a lottery system here. Yeah, 162 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:55.000 my kid, I mean my kids in a social program. 163 00:08:55.120 --> 00:08:57.919 So like there's only like four schools maybe that have 164 00:08:58.039 --> 00:09:00.639 what Calvin needs, but like in general, like there's an 165 00:09:00.679 --> 00:09:03.960 elementary school down just like a block from me, and 166 00:09:04.039 --> 00:09:06.600 Calvin couldn't go to that school and he may not 167 00:09:06.679 --> 00:09:08.399 have been able to go to that school even if 168 00:09:08.440 --> 00:09:11.440 he wasn't in a special program. They everyone is bussed 169 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:14.120 around here in the right let's go it's and it's 170 00:09:14.200 --> 00:09:18.320 to keep it like, to keep it integrated, you know, 171 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:18.960 and so that. 172 00:09:19.240 --> 00:09:21.840 Kids do better integrated schools. By the way, that's been 173 00:09:21.919 --> 00:09:25.159 like that's been proven, absolutely proven over and over again. 174 00:09:25.200 --> 00:09:27.759 The best thing that happened with education in America was 175 00:09:27.919 --> 00:09:32.519 integrated kids forced forcing the integration. But it's the forcing 176 00:09:32.600 --> 00:09:34.919 part that gets everybody their nickers in a twist. And 177 00:09:34.960 --> 00:09:37.120 people don't like to be told what to do and 178 00:09:37.159 --> 00:09:39.080 it's childish, but what are you going to do? 179 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:42.360 Yeah, And it's really interesting is in the movie they 180 00:09:43.639 --> 00:09:46.519 are bringing They're gonna now they're going to integrate this team, 181 00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:50.360 and you know, they have all these white kids who've 182 00:09:50.399 --> 00:09:53.320 always played all these positions and now they're and then 183 00:09:53.399 --> 00:09:56.799 this all these black players who also played these positions, 184 00:09:56.799 --> 00:09:58.960 and it's like the best you know, the best man 185 00:09:59.000 --> 00:10:02.480 for the job kind of thing, right, And the white 186 00:10:02.480 --> 00:10:08.120 people are like, no, no, I've been here since i 187 00:10:08.200 --> 00:10:08.639 was a kid. 188 00:10:08.799 --> 00:10:11.399 No, my brother played here, my dad played here. I've 189 00:10:11.399 --> 00:10:13.279 been on this team. I've been on JV. And now 190 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:15.919 I'm a senior. I've always been cornerback. I'm gonna be 191 00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:18.000 the cornerback, and I'm not giving it up for this 192 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:20.159 other kid who just swoops in out of nowhere. But 193 00:10:20.159 --> 00:10:22.600 if the kid swoops out of nowhere is awesome, of 194 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:23.440 course you used him. 195 00:10:23.639 --> 00:10:24.639 That's just life too. 196 00:10:25.120 --> 00:10:27.679 Yeah. So there's like two things going on here. There's 197 00:10:27.720 --> 00:10:31.120 the people in the movie who would rather shoot themselves 198 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:35.399 in the foot then not be racist. Basically, they're like, 199 00:10:35.600 --> 00:10:40.720 I would rather not play football. I'd rather not support 200 00:10:40.759 --> 00:10:45.120 the team, like whatever they hurt themselves rather than let 201 00:10:45.360 --> 00:10:48.399 than not be racist. And then there's the people that 202 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:51.840 are so competitive and so into sports that they're like, 203 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:59.080 once the team starts winning, they're like, yeah, fuck racism, 204 00:10:56.840 --> 00:11:03.720 and definitely like two different groups going on, but all 205 00:11:03.799 --> 00:11:08.440 the stuff where he merges the two teams, like makes 206 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:12.480 them like integrate on the bus and that's who their 207 00:11:12.559 --> 00:11:16.399 roommate is and watch and kind of letting the kids 208 00:11:16.480 --> 00:11:20.000 figure it out themselves of how to relate with each other. 209 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:21.679 And they do it a lot through music, which is 210 00:11:21.679 --> 00:11:24.080 why we get so many needle drops in this movie. 211 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:28.639 And the music is so good. It really is, And 212 00:11:29.480 --> 00:11:31.480 I don't know that's the stuff in the movie I 213 00:11:31.600 --> 00:11:36.000 like the most is when they're starting to click with 214 00:11:36.159 --> 00:11:41.960 each other, when they start bonding over music or Ethan 215 00:11:42.080 --> 00:11:46.759 playing this character Louie who has just come in and 216 00:11:46.799 --> 00:11:49.000 he's like, oh, I heard there was football and I 217 00:11:49.159 --> 00:11:53.360 like to hit people. So he doesn't care about black 218 00:11:53.440 --> 00:11:58.320 or white. I think they established that he's poor, so 219 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:01.440 he he's just like, hey, I'm just happy to be 220 00:12:01.519 --> 00:12:02.279 here kind of thing. 221 00:12:02.320 --> 00:12:04.159 And he right, he seems like. 222 00:12:04.080 --> 00:12:10.399 The gateway to merging the whole bringing the whole team together. Yeah, 223 00:12:10.519 --> 00:12:15.279 he plays such a lovable person that everyone starts to 224 00:12:15.480 --> 00:12:18.080 like him. There's that, but also there's the two leaders, 225 00:12:18.159 --> 00:12:20.879 and that's I'm going to look up their name. What Harris, 226 00:12:21.039 --> 00:12:25.039 who plays Julius Campbell that's Avon Barksdale everybody. And then 227 00:12:25.159 --> 00:12:32.200 Ryan Hurst who plays Jerry berd Berdiyer. I guess who 228 00:12:32.320 --> 00:12:34.799 apparently was on Sons of Anarchy. I didn't watch Sons 229 00:12:34.799 --> 00:12:36.399 of Anarchy, so no. 230 00:12:36.559 --> 00:12:39.639 He was also a show called Taken. I think he 231 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:42.440 was in Taken, and that was not the leam Neeson Taken, 232 00:12:42.600 --> 00:12:46.080 like I'm under the Bed and that's not that that Taken. 233 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:49.440 There's another Taken that was a sci fi series on 234 00:12:49.480 --> 00:12:53.159 a sci fi network and I'm Steven Spielberg produced, Oh 235 00:12:53.759 --> 00:12:58.440 and d Coodea Fanning Coda Fanning was it? I loved, 236 00:12:59.120 --> 00:12:59.919 loved that show. 237 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:02.360 It was so good. It was so good. 238 00:13:02.399 --> 00:13:04.639 But the budget, I know somebody like was a part 239 00:13:04.679 --> 00:13:06.879 of it, and they said it was the sound the 240 00:13:06.919 --> 00:13:09.960 soundtrack for that. It was like five episodes or something. 241 00:13:10.039 --> 00:13:12.519 It was like because it whenever it was a very American. 242 00:13:12.559 --> 00:13:15.440 It was different decades in America, and like the budget 243 00:13:15.480 --> 00:13:17.320 for that and the and the songwrites for that made 244 00:13:17.360 --> 00:13:19.480 it almost impossible, like they I don't even know if 245 00:13:19.480 --> 00:13:25.360 it's been on DVD, but anyway, forgot unless it was 246 00:13:25.639 --> 00:13:27.120 so good, so good. 247 00:13:27.840 --> 00:13:31.600 But these two they are both like running backs. I 248 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:32.759 think I'm not sure. 249 00:13:32.759 --> 00:13:34.720 Ones on offense and ones on defense. 250 00:13:34.879 --> 00:13:37.480 Yeah, but they are in they are roommates and right, 251 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:42.639 they definitely don't get along at first, and then there's 252 00:13:42.679 --> 00:13:50.600 like this unlikely respect and friendship starts to merge or emerge. Sorry, 253 00:13:50.639 --> 00:13:54.399 and I don't. It's like the best part, it's the 254 00:13:54.399 --> 00:13:56.559 best part of the whole movie is their little is 255 00:13:56.600 --> 00:14:01.480 their friendship and how yeah he tried, like and I'm 256 00:14:01.480 --> 00:14:04.759 sorry his character's name is Ryan, or sorry, his character's 257 00:14:04.799 --> 00:14:09.399 name is Jerry. Jerry like tries to introduce him, tries 258 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:13.039 to introduce Julius to his girlfriend played by Kate Bosworth, 259 00:14:13.039 --> 00:14:16.879 who's also adorable, but she's so racist she won't even 260 00:14:16.919 --> 00:14:22.679 fucking shake his hand, Like, and he just doesn't let 261 00:14:23.120 --> 00:14:27.399 anybody tell him that they can't be friends, Like I like. 262 00:14:27.440 --> 00:14:29.879 This stuff where their when they start off their own 263 00:14:29.919 --> 00:14:34.360 training camp and they immediately and Denzel Washington's like, you 264 00:14:34.399 --> 00:14:36.000 will be at a suit and tie when you show 265 00:14:36.039 --> 00:14:39.240 up at the bus at seven twenty nine, not seven thirty. 266 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:41.159 He's a hard ass, like right off. 267 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:44.000 Such a hard ass, I mean, but that's what they need, 268 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:47.159 Like it's what everybody needs kind of like just because 269 00:14:47.200 --> 00:14:49.000 they have to follow orders that's the whole thing. And 270 00:14:49.080 --> 00:14:53.679 so he separates offense and defense, so it doesn't matter 271 00:14:53.679 --> 00:14:55.960 if you're black or white. Like if you're you play 272 00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:58.320 for the offense, you go on one bus. Defense you 273 00:14:58.399 --> 00:14:59.720 go on the other bus. And then he makes them 274 00:14:59.720 --> 00:15:02.759 be mats with each other. And that's when he breaks 275 00:15:02.799 --> 00:15:07.159 down those barriers, which I love from Miracle where herb 276 00:15:07.559 --> 00:15:09.799 you know, the hockey thing. They're they're like, we broke 277 00:15:09.840 --> 00:15:12.360 down the barriers between the guys from the white guys 278 00:15:12.360 --> 00:15:14.399 from the Midwest and the white guys from Boston. 279 00:15:14.720 --> 00:15:18.960 Isn't that amazing? And I love that story, But it 280 00:15:19.000 --> 00:15:20.840 always makes me laugh when they go, we broke down. 281 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:22.679 All their barriers, Like really, were there a lot of 282 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:23.720 barriers between them? 283 00:15:24.120 --> 00:15:26.480 I mean, here, you've got some real barriers. 284 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:32.600 You've got a sociological experiment basically that they're they're going 285 00:15:32.639 --> 00:15:35.639 through because they're the first generation that's doing that, that's integrated, 286 00:15:36.200 --> 00:15:36.799 and they've. 287 00:15:36.600 --> 00:15:38.240 Always it's always been something else. 288 00:15:38.799 --> 00:15:41.120 So I like it when they're because they're near Valley 289 00:15:41.159 --> 00:15:44.159 Forge and it's one of those cases where they're using 290 00:15:44.159 --> 00:15:46.279 the Civil War correctly. I hate it when people use 291 00:15:46.279 --> 00:15:49.759 the Civil War to bring the Dixie people. You know, 292 00:15:49.960 --> 00:15:53.799 to fetishize that whole fucked up shit. Yeah, I'm viewing 293 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:57.159 for the Union, by the way, that's my big hot take. 294 00:15:57.519 --> 00:15:59.679 That's my hot take is I for the Union and 295 00:15:59.720 --> 00:16:04.399 all that we should all be sikes. I know that's 296 00:16:04.399 --> 00:16:06.440 t twin peaks and made me crazy, that whole thing 297 00:16:06.480 --> 00:16:10.159 where they were acting out about civil war and maybe 298 00:16:10.240 --> 00:16:13.840 nuts anyway, So they're they're at that battle, and he's 299 00:16:13.879 --> 00:16:16.559 making the case of like these guys fought in battle. 300 00:16:16.639 --> 00:16:18.360 They didn't care who was next to them. 301 00:16:18.360 --> 00:16:20.600 They just wanted somebody to be you know, they just 302 00:16:20.639 --> 00:16:22.679 had each other's back, and that's what's important. 303 00:16:22.840 --> 00:16:24.600 You need to have each other's back. So by the 304 00:16:24.679 --> 00:16:25.440 end that I liked it. 305 00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:27.320 By the end of their trip there, they are bonding 306 00:16:27.360 --> 00:16:30.519 with one another like through music and their families and 307 00:16:30.600 --> 00:16:32.279 dance and other things that they're into. 308 00:16:32.399 --> 00:16:34.799 But by the time they're done, most. 309 00:16:34.519 --> 00:16:38.279 Of them, most of the kids are like bonded like tight. 310 00:16:39.120 --> 00:16:41.679 But there's a few racist white guys that are like 311 00:16:42.639 --> 00:16:44.799 you know, and you know, these guys, they're the ones 312 00:16:44.799 --> 00:16:47.039 that are pissed off about de Ei nowadays, like they 313 00:16:47.080 --> 00:16:47.639 will scream and. 314 00:16:47.679 --> 00:16:48.320 Yell about that. 315 00:16:48.559 --> 00:16:50.320 These are guys, like I've always been on the team. 316 00:16:50.320 --> 00:16:51.720 How come I'm not on the team anymore? Why is 317 00:16:51.720 --> 00:16:54.360 it that guy? Well, that's not fair. And it's like, well, 318 00:16:54.600 --> 00:16:56.960 he's better than you. You had sports is ever better 319 00:16:57.000 --> 00:16:58.279 than you? It's that's who wins. 320 00:16:58.320 --> 00:17:03.960 Yeah, Yeah, And there's Ryan Goslin's character. Ryan Gosling has 321 00:17:04.000 --> 00:17:07.680 a small role in this. He's and he's he's so 322 00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:12.160 little and young, and his whole thing about like put 323 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:17.119 in Donald Faison like he's better than me. Right for 324 00:17:17.240 --> 00:17:19.759 him to admit that is a is a big deal. 325 00:17:19.920 --> 00:17:21.640 And like a lot of the people on the team, 326 00:17:22.680 --> 00:17:24.759 they have to trust each other or you're going to 327 00:17:24.839 --> 00:17:27.519 get a concussion out there. You're gonna get hurt, right, 328 00:17:27.799 --> 00:17:32.279 really really hurt. And like Jerry at a certain point realizes, 329 00:17:32.400 --> 00:17:36.519 like one of his best friends is still so racist 330 00:17:36.559 --> 00:17:40.519 and shitty that he's letting some of the other players 331 00:17:40.640 --> 00:17:43.799 get sacked and get hurt because he would rather. 332 00:17:44.440 --> 00:17:46.640 Them get hurt than him to protect a black man. 333 00:17:46.960 --> 00:17:50.240 Yes exactly, which is which is messed up, but yeah, 334 00:17:50.400 --> 00:17:53.279 messed up, but that's what was happening. So that's like 335 00:17:53.319 --> 00:17:56.799 that's the story, Like, and so doesn't Yeah, I always 336 00:17:56.839 --> 00:17:59.519 I find that always find that really and I also 337 00:17:59.599 --> 00:18:03.279 love this where Jerry's on the phone with Kate Bosworth 338 00:18:03.839 --> 00:18:06.319 and she she wants him to say he loves her. Yeah, 339 00:18:06.359 --> 00:18:08.799 he's like, And all these guys are on line and 340 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:11.160 they're like, no, no, I can't, I can't, and think goes, 341 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:13.119 I love you baby. 342 00:18:13.519 --> 00:18:18.640 They're ah. So they're in their camp and then Kit 343 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:21.480 Pardue shows up and I guess he was a quarterback 344 00:18:21.759 --> 00:18:25.119 on his team and his dad wants him to be 345 00:18:25.160 --> 00:18:28.519 a part of like a black and white team. His 346 00:18:28.599 --> 00:18:31.119 whole thing is like, if these men can serve because 347 00:18:31.119 --> 00:18:34.119 he's like in he's in the army or something. He's like, 348 00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:37.519 if these men can serve together in a war, they 349 00:18:37.519 --> 00:18:40.519 can play football together. This is and he doesn't want 350 00:18:40.559 --> 00:18:43.160 him going to an all white school, right, and so 351 00:18:43.440 --> 00:18:45.599 he joins the team and he's got this long hair, 352 00:18:46.039 --> 00:18:47.319 so handsome. 353 00:18:47.279 --> 00:18:50.839 He's so cute, I mean, so seventies, like the bukaells 354 00:18:51.079 --> 00:18:55.599 totally so calif yep, and it would have been exotic 355 00:18:55.640 --> 00:18:58.440 to all those girls. Oh my god, he's Coloria, what 356 00:18:59.400 --> 00:19:02.799 my god. And he's not a racist shit bag, Like, no, 357 00:19:03.200 --> 00:19:04.079 he's totally cool. 358 00:19:04.079 --> 00:19:05.359 You're like, yeah, no, I want to play on the 359 00:19:05.359 --> 00:19:06.160 best team. 360 00:19:06.359 --> 00:19:08.839 Yeah. He doesn't care. There's a whole thing where like 361 00:19:08.880 --> 00:19:11.559 he gets a haircut and then for some reason he 362 00:19:11.680 --> 00:19:14.519 kisses Jerry. I don't understand what that was about. 363 00:19:14.680 --> 00:19:17.559 But they kind of are making the case of like 364 00:19:17.599 --> 00:19:19.759 he's from California, his long hair, he must be gay, 365 00:19:20.359 --> 00:19:23.640 which is another thing that they're all But he's like, 366 00:19:23.839 --> 00:19:26.160 I don't care, call me gay. I don't give Yeah, 367 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:27.440 he's really progressive. 368 00:19:27.559 --> 00:19:29.480 He's super very progressive. 369 00:19:29.720 --> 00:19:32.319 Right, He's very comfortable in his own skin. I mean 370 00:19:32.359 --> 00:19:36.440 he's got handsome skin, so whatever. But he's but yeah, 371 00:19:36.480 --> 00:19:39.039 he's but and then there's a whole thing Donald fays On. 372 00:19:39.119 --> 00:19:41.680 He's like, starts talking to the girls. I have a 373 00:19:41.720 --> 00:19:44.119 crush in Sunshine. He's like, he's from California, don't you 374 00:19:44.119 --> 00:19:45.960 know that? And then these other guys are giving him 375 00:19:45.960 --> 00:19:47.559 a hard time for talking to the white girls. 376 00:19:47.559 --> 00:19:48.880 So there's always this tension. 377 00:19:49.480 --> 00:19:52.680 Always they can't win. Yeah, there's also a whole segment 378 00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:57.480 where they all learn the power of yo mama jokes. Yes, 379 00:19:57.799 --> 00:19:59.920 I'm a fan. I love your mama. 380 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:06.480 Your mama jokes, my back hurts. Some care of your mama. 381 00:20:06.599 --> 00:20:07.519 That always makes me. 382 00:20:07.799 --> 00:20:12.200 Well, it was so funny. Is one of the black 383 00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:16.240 students makes the joke about someone about a white guy's 384 00:20:16.319 --> 00:20:19.799 mom and white guys don't. He's like get it. Yeah, 385 00:20:19.839 --> 00:20:21.680 he's like, what did you say about my mother? And 386 00:20:21.720 --> 00:20:25.880 then like Julius is like hang back a minute, Like 387 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:28.559 he's like, give it a minute so you can see 388 00:20:28.559 --> 00:20:31.640 where this is going. And it's all like your mama jokes, 389 00:20:31.680 --> 00:20:34.039 which I used to have a whole book of your 390 00:20:34.039 --> 00:20:34.759 mama jokes. 391 00:20:34.880 --> 00:20:36.640 Oh I've got some good ones. Yeah. 392 00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:38.559 I gave it to my niece Laura La and then 393 00:20:38.559 --> 00:20:40.880 she was obsessed with your mama jokes for a while. 394 00:20:41.039 --> 00:20:42.839 It's it's real good. 395 00:20:44.200 --> 00:20:45.119 It's the dozens. 396 00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:46.680 That was what it was called when my dad was 397 00:20:46.720 --> 00:20:49.480 a kid, which is he grew up in far Rockaway 398 00:20:49.559 --> 00:20:52.519 and the dozens is like the dozen insults you could 399 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:56.039 throw at someboddy. Basically, it's just it's like insult comics 400 00:20:56.039 --> 00:20:59.039 like Don Rickles or something, but it's just insulting each other. 401 00:20:59.079 --> 00:21:01.920