Speaker 1: Welcome to dorky Out. My name is Sonia Mansfield and
Speaker 1: you're overcooking my grits coach. Joining me is my podcasting
Speaker 1: sister from another Mister and the coast of dorking Out,
Speaker 1: Margot d Hello, my friend.
Speaker 2: Does the terms.
Speaker 3: Unusual punishment have any meaning to you?
Speaker 1: None at all? None at all. It's Super Bowl weekend,
Speaker 1: so we've decided to talk about a football movie. We
Speaker 1: are dorking out about two thousands, remember the Titans. This
Speaker 1: is a Margo pick. Margo loves the same.
Speaker 3: Hi. Yeah, you can blame me if you're upset.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, nobody should be upset because there's there's
Speaker 1: nothing to be upset about with this movie.
Speaker 3: It delivers what it's supposed to exactly.
Speaker 1: It's directed here you go, boz Yankin, I think is
Speaker 1: how you pronounce it. Written by Gregory Alan Howard, it
Speaker 1: stars Denzil Washington, Will patten Wood Harris, who I apparently
Speaker 1: he was a professional football player at some point, but
Speaker 1: I always know him as Avon Barksdale from the Wire.
Speaker 1: That's what I know him from.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I haven't seen The Wire.
Speaker 1: In ages and Ryan Hurst, Donald Faison in the Donald
Speaker 1: Faison role.
Speaker 3: Who does Donald better than Donald Nobody.
Speaker 2: He's fucking got it figured out.
Speaker 1: He really does. And he's got like he's got that
Speaker 1: goofy smile and he doesn't age. No, he looks exactly
Speaker 1: the same, same he and our Cinio Hall and Peggy Lipped.
Speaker 3: It looks for people like it's Christy Brinkley, Like they
Speaker 3: don't age, they're the same. Weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh, Ethan Soulfly, so play you play. He's really I
Speaker 1: think he's really good in this too.
Speaker 2: He's so good he makes me cry.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then Hayden a little baby Hayden Panetary.
Speaker 3: Yes, she's She's just a little we wandered adorable.
Speaker 2: Everybody drank, everybody drink.
Speaker 1: Also, little baby Ryan Gosling so good, so cute.
Speaker 3: Yep, what a cutie.
Speaker 1: And then Kit Pardue as Ronnie Sunshine, who would.
Speaker 3: Have been totally my type. Oh my god the seventies
Speaker 3: I went to high school.
Speaker 2: I would be following him around, Oh my.
Speaker 1: God, every like all the girls like looking at him.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and they're like he's from California and they're like,
Speaker 1: who cares?
Speaker 2: Who cares? I get it. I'm like totally like.
Speaker 1: He would have, He could have had all of this,
Speaker 1: He could have had all of this love. If you
Speaker 1: haven't seen Remember the Titans, which I hadn't. I thought
Speaker 1: I had and watched this and was like, I have
Speaker 1: not seen this. You should you probably we're gonna spoil it,
Speaker 1: but you probably know where it's going because it's based
Speaker 1: on a true story and it's pretty obvious where it's going.
Speaker 1: It's said in nineteen seventy one in Alexandria, Virginia, the
Speaker 1: schools are integrating. Guess what people have thoughts and feelings
Speaker 1: about that, and that includes the football team. So they
Speaker 1: Denzel Washington was the coach at the black school, Will
Speaker 1: Patton was the coach at the white school. They integrate,
Speaker 1: they make Denzel Washington the head coach over Will Patton,
Speaker 1: which he is not pleased about it first, but you know,
Speaker 1: joins the team anyway, and racial tensions run high, to
Speaker 1: say the least. But if they want to win, they
Speaker 1: have to work as a team. They have to work
Speaker 1: as a team. And this movie is you could put
Speaker 1: it in a block with something like Friday Night Lights
Speaker 1: that really capture how big high school football is. Some communities,
Speaker 1: like the whole community is obsessed with the high school
Speaker 1: football team and they root for them. They everyone goes
Speaker 1: to all the games, whether you have kids in the
Speaker 1: school or not. They you know, all the restaurants have
Speaker 1: their signs like that they can like eat and drink
Speaker 1: for free or whatever until they eat them out of.
Speaker 2: Until exactly that. I crack up every live.
Speaker 1: But like, I think this really captures that sort of vibe.
Speaker 1: And this movie's really good, Margot, I'm glad.
Speaker 3: Oh good, thank god.
Speaker 2: I was worried you would be like, no.
Speaker 1: No, no, like it it. You know exactly where it's going.
Speaker 3: It's they're no surprises really with it. Yeah, but at
Speaker 3: the same time they do stick. You know, it's formulate storytelling.
Speaker 3: It's about people becoming nicer people, but some people don't.
Speaker 2: Some people stay assholes.
Speaker 3: There is that party is like, oh my god, it
Speaker 3: was so different back then fifty years ago, Like is
Speaker 3: it though, yeah's happening happening right now right now. It's whatever.
Speaker 3: I don't I just find it a very I mean,
Speaker 3: I do like sports stories because of that, because it's
Speaker 3: usually about overcoming stuff, and it's overcoming the mental and
Speaker 3: the physical. And that's why I enjoy about sports and
Speaker 3: I it's like I was saying to you yesterday, like
Speaker 3: it's a lot of cute boys, it's got really good music.
Speaker 3: It's you know, it's a really good message that they're sending. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't think it's too sweet either. It could be
Speaker 3: a lot more syrupy, you know, in the wrong hands.
Speaker 3: I think it's like I think there's sometimes where it's
Speaker 3: almost like jarring, how really it is, like how the
Speaker 3: racism and stuff.
Speaker 2: But that's a good thing, I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And Denzel Washington's character is not the most likable exactly,
Speaker 1: Like they don't they don't sugarcoat him. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: he ever particularly like he's really really hard on this team.
Speaker 1: He takes over and he really busts their ass, like
Speaker 1: he does try like a boot camp. Like there is
Speaker 1: a point where like one of the players asks for
Speaker 1: water and he's like waters for cowards or some shit,
Speaker 1: and like makes them all fucking run until they puke.
Speaker 1: And it's like, well, that's not cool.
Speaker 3: But it's also the seventies for sure. And I know
Speaker 3: when I was a kid, our schools were like because
Speaker 3: I grew up in the East Coast, It's like it
Speaker 3: was either too hot or too cold.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like you had a fucking deal with it.
Speaker 3: And I knew a lot of guys that were into
Speaker 3: sports in football that Yeah, they would pass out on
Speaker 3: the sidelines when they had to start practicing in August. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's humid. They do two a days, which are brutal.
Speaker 3: It still happens, by the way, every year around the
Speaker 3: end of summer, you'll hear about unfortunately, you'll hear about
Speaker 3: football camps in this country, football camps around the country
Speaker 3: where kids are passing out, killing over, if not dying, yes,
Speaker 3: because actually, yeah.
Speaker 1: They they gloss over that pretty cool, Like he doesn't
Speaker 1: learn to be nicer.
Speaker 2: No, that's not his journey.
Speaker 1: No, that's not his journey. It's not with the movies about.
Speaker 3: Right, and appears the guy was a real asshole in
Speaker 3: real life, Like he's not very likable like that, like
Speaker 3: kind of a bad coach.
Speaker 2: Really, I mean it was abusive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's not the story we're telling here exactly.
Speaker 1: And there's no arc for him, Like he's right, he's
Speaker 1: the same from the beginning to the end. Will Patton.
Speaker 1: He has a little bit of an arc, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: a little bit of way. It's really more for the
Speaker 1: it's the students that go through a change, like they're
Speaker 1: the ones that there A lot of the white kids
Speaker 1: are really they're fucking racist because they were they grew
Speaker 1: up that way there.
Speaker 3: If you meet the parents there and the community, it
Speaker 3: is a very segregated community. Yeah, and Virginia is considered
Speaker 3: the South in America if you're not familiar, even though
Speaker 3: it's on the East Coast. And uh, yeah, like we said,
Speaker 3: it's like in the sixties. You know, in the seventies
Speaker 3: there was a lot of bussing that was happening, so
Speaker 3: kids were being bussed to different schools and the interest
Speaker 3: of quality or trying to level things out. So in
Speaker 3: this school they're having it's like they had a black
Speaker 3: high school in a white high school and now they're
Speaker 3: mixing them both together. And uh, people are freaked out.
Speaker 3: And they did, and we need to understand that. And
Speaker 3: they still do, by the.
Speaker 1: Way, Yeah, they still people still freak out about this.
Speaker 3: I know mine, I'm in Brooklyn, like where I go
Speaker 3: to you know, where I don't. I don't have kids,
Speaker 3: but where people have kids in schools, it's a big
Speaker 3: deal to get them in a local like within a
Speaker 3: few block radius the school's there, because if you don't,
Speaker 3: then you're on your your kids on a subway.
Speaker 2: Half the day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. San Francisco has a lottery system here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my kid, I mean my kids in a social program.
Speaker 1: So like there's only like four schools maybe that have
Speaker 1: what Calvin needs, but like in general, like there's an
Speaker 1: elementary school down just like a block from me, and
Speaker 1: Calvin couldn't go to that school and he may not
Speaker 1: have been able to go to that school even if
Speaker 1: he wasn't in a special program. They everyone is bussed
Speaker 1: around here in the right let's go it's and it's
Speaker 1: to keep it like, to keep it integrated, you know,
Speaker 1: and so that.
Speaker 3: Kids do better integrated schools. By the way, that's been
Speaker 3: like that's been proven, absolutely proven over and over again.
Speaker 3: The best thing that happened with education in America was
Speaker 3: integrated kids forced forcing the integration. But it's the forcing
Speaker 3: part that gets everybody their nickers in a twist. And
Speaker 3: people don't like to be told what to do and
Speaker 3: it's childish, but what are you going to do?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's really interesting is in the movie they
Speaker 1: are bringing They're gonna now they're going to integrate this team,
Speaker 1: and you know, they have all these white kids who've
Speaker 1: always played all these positions and now they're and then
Speaker 1: this all these black players who also played these positions,
Speaker 1: and it's like the best you know, the best man
Speaker 1: for the job kind of thing, right, And the white
Speaker 1: people are like, no, no, I've been here since i
Speaker 1: was a kid.
Speaker 3: No, my brother played here, my dad played here. I've
Speaker 3: been on this team. I've been on JV. And now
Speaker 3: I'm a senior. I've always been cornerback. I'm gonna be
Speaker 3: the cornerback, and I'm not giving it up for this
Speaker 3: other kid who just swoops in out of nowhere. But
Speaker 3: if the kid swoops out of nowhere is awesome, of
Speaker 3: course you used him.
Speaker 2: That's just life too.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So there's like two things going on here. There's
Speaker 1: the people in the movie who would rather shoot themselves
Speaker 1: in the foot then not be racist. Basically, they're like,
Speaker 1: I would rather not play football. I'd rather not support
Speaker 1: the team, like whatever they hurt themselves rather than let
Speaker 1: than not be racist. And then there's the people that
Speaker 1: are so competitive and so into sports that they're like,
Speaker 1: once the team starts winning, they're like, yeah, fuck racism,
Speaker 1: and definitely like two different groups going on, but all
Speaker 1: the stuff where he merges the two teams, like makes
Speaker 1: them like integrate on the bus and that's who their
Speaker 1: roommate is and watch and kind of letting the kids
Speaker 1: figure it out themselves of how to relate with each other.
Speaker 1: And they do it a lot through music, which is
Speaker 1: why we get so many needle drops in this movie.
Speaker 1: And the music is so good. It really is, And
Speaker 1: I don't know that's the stuff in the movie I
Speaker 1: like the most is when they're starting to click with
Speaker 1: each other, when they start bonding over music or Ethan
Speaker 1: playing this character Louie who has just come in and
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, I heard there was football and I
Speaker 1: like to hit people. So he doesn't care about black
Speaker 1: or white. I think they established that he's poor, so
Speaker 1: he he's just like, hey, I'm just happy to be
Speaker 1: here kind of thing.
Speaker 2: And he right, he seems like.
Speaker 1: The gateway to merging the whole bringing the whole team together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he plays such a lovable person that everyone starts to
Speaker 1: like him. There's that, but also there's the two leaders,
Speaker 1: and that's I'm going to look up their name. What Harris,
Speaker 1: who plays Julius Campbell that's Avon Barksdale everybody. And then
Speaker 1: Ryan Hurst who plays Jerry berd Berdiyer. I guess who
Speaker 1: apparently was on Sons of Anarchy. I didn't watch Sons
Speaker 1: of Anarchy, so no.
Speaker 3: He was also a show called Taken. I think he
Speaker 3: was in Taken, and that was not the leam Neeson Taken,
Speaker 3: like I'm under the Bed and that's not that that Taken.
Speaker 3: There's another Taken that was a sci fi series on
Speaker 3: a sci fi network and I'm Steven Spielberg produced, Oh
Speaker 3: and d Coodea Fanning Coda Fanning was it? I loved,
Speaker 3: loved that show.
Speaker 2: It was so good. It was so good.
Speaker 3: But the budget, I know somebody like was a part
Speaker 3: of it, and they said it was the sound the
Speaker 3: soundtrack for that. It was like five episodes or something.
Speaker 3: It was like because it whenever it was a very American.
Speaker 3: It was different decades in America, and like the budget
Speaker 3: for that and the and the songwrites for that made
Speaker 3: it almost impossible, like they I don't even know if
Speaker 3: it's been on DVD, but anyway, forgot unless it was
Speaker 3: so good, so good.
Speaker 1: But these two they are both like running backs. I
Speaker 1: think I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: Ones on offense and ones on defense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they are in they are roommates and right,
Speaker 1: they definitely don't get along at first, and then there's
Speaker 1: like this unlikely respect and friendship starts to merge or emerge. Sorry,
Speaker 1: and I don't. It's like the best part, it's the
Speaker 1: best part of the whole movie is their little is
Speaker 1: their friendship and how yeah he tried, like and I'm
Speaker 1: sorry his character's name is Ryan, or sorry, his character's
Speaker 1: name is Jerry. Jerry like tries to introduce him, tries
Speaker 1: to introduce Julius to his girlfriend played by Kate Bosworth,
Speaker 1: who's also adorable, but she's so racist she won't even
Speaker 1: fucking shake his hand, Like, and he just doesn't let
Speaker 1: anybody tell him that they can't be friends, Like I like.
Speaker 3: This stuff where their when they start off their own
Speaker 3: training camp and they immediately and Denzel Washington's like, you
Speaker 3: will be at a suit and tie when you show
Speaker 3: up at the bus at seven twenty nine, not seven thirty.
Speaker 2: He's a hard ass, like right off.
Speaker 3: Such a hard ass, I mean, but that's what they need,
Speaker 3: Like it's what everybody needs kind of like just because
Speaker 3: they have to follow orders that's the whole thing. And
Speaker 3: so he separates offense and defense, so it doesn't matter
Speaker 3: if you're black or white. Like if you're you play
Speaker 3: for the offense, you go on one bus. Defense you
Speaker 3: go on the other bus. And then he makes them
Speaker 3: be mats with each other. And that's when he breaks
Speaker 3: down those barriers, which I love from Miracle where herb
Speaker 3: you know, the hockey thing. They're they're like, we broke
Speaker 3: down the barriers between the guys from the white guys
Speaker 3: from the Midwest and the white guys from Boston.
Speaker 2: Isn't that amazing? And I love that story, But it
Speaker 2: always makes me laugh when they go, we broke down.
Speaker 3: All their barriers, Like really, were there a lot of
Speaker 3: barriers between them?
Speaker 2: I mean, here, you've got some real barriers.
Speaker 3: You've got a sociological experiment basically that they're they're going
Speaker 3: through because they're the first generation that's doing that, that's integrated,
Speaker 3: and they've.
Speaker 2: Always it's always been something else.
Speaker 3: So I like it when they're because they're near Valley
Speaker 3: Forge and it's one of those cases where they're using
Speaker 3: the Civil War correctly. I hate it when people use
Speaker 3: the Civil War to bring the Dixie people. You know,
Speaker 3: to fetishize that whole fucked up shit. Yeah, I'm viewing
Speaker 3: for the Union, by the way, that's my big hot take.
Speaker 3: That's my hot take is I for the Union and
Speaker 3: all that we should all be sikes. I know that's
Speaker 3: t twin peaks and made me crazy, that whole thing
Speaker 3: where they were acting out about civil war and maybe
Speaker 3: nuts anyway, So they're they're at that battle, and he's
Speaker 3: making the case of like these guys fought in battle.
Speaker 2: They didn't care who was next to them.
Speaker 3: They just wanted somebody to be you know, they just
Speaker 3: had each other's back, and that's what's important.
Speaker 2: You need to have each other's back. So by the
Speaker 2: end that I liked it.
Speaker 3: By the end of their trip there, they are bonding
Speaker 3: with one another like through music and their families and
Speaker 3: dance and other things that they're into.
Speaker 2: But by the time they're done, most.
Speaker 3: Of them, most of the kids are like bonded like tight.
Speaker 3: But there's a few racist white guys that are like
Speaker 3: you know, and you know, these guys, they're the ones
Speaker 3: that are pissed off about de Ei nowadays, like they
Speaker 3: will scream and.
Speaker 2: Yell about that.
Speaker 3: These are guys, like I've always been on the team.
Speaker 3: How come I'm not on the team anymore? Why is
Speaker 3: it that guy? Well, that's not fair. And it's like, well,
Speaker 3: he's better than you. You had sports is ever better
Speaker 3: than you? It's that's who wins.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, And there's Ryan Goslin's character. Ryan Gosling has
Speaker 1: a small role in this. He's and he's he's so
Speaker 1: little and young, and his whole thing about like put
Speaker 1: in Donald Faison like he's better than me. Right for
Speaker 1: him to admit that is a is a big deal.
Speaker 1: And like a lot of the people on the team,
Speaker 1: they have to trust each other or you're going to
Speaker 1: get a concussion out there. You're gonna get hurt, right,
Speaker 1: really really hurt. And like Jerry at a certain point realizes,
Speaker 1: like one of his best friends is still so racist
Speaker 1: and shitty that he's letting some of the other players
Speaker 1: get sacked and get hurt because he would rather.
Speaker 2: Them get hurt than him to protect a black man.
Speaker 3: Yes exactly, which is which is messed up, but yeah,
Speaker 3: messed up, but that's what was happening. So that's like
Speaker 3: that's the story, Like, and so doesn't Yeah, I always
Speaker 3: I find that always find that really and I also
Speaker 3: love this where Jerry's on the phone with Kate Bosworth
Speaker 3: and she she wants him to say he loves her. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's like, And all these guys are on line and
Speaker 3: they're like, no, no, I can't, I can't, and think goes,
Speaker 3: I love you baby.
Speaker 1: They're ah. So they're in their camp and then Kit
Speaker 1: Pardue shows up and I guess he was a quarterback
Speaker 1: on his team and his dad wants him to be
Speaker 1: a part of like a black and white team. His
Speaker 1: whole thing is like, if these men can serve because
Speaker 1: he's like in he's in the army or something. He's like,
Speaker 1: if these men can serve together in a war, they
Speaker 1: can play football together. This is and he doesn't want
Speaker 1: him going to an all white school, right, and so
Speaker 1: he joins the team and he's got this long hair,
Speaker 1: so handsome.
Speaker 3: He's so cute, I mean, so seventies, like the bukaells
Speaker 3: totally so calif yep, and it would have been exotic
Speaker 3: to all those girls. Oh my god, he's Coloria, what
Speaker 3: my god. And he's not a racist shit bag, Like, no,
Speaker 3: he's totally cool.
Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, no, I want to play on the
Speaker 2: best team.
Speaker 1: Yeah. He doesn't care. There's a whole thing where like
Speaker 1: he gets a haircut and then for some reason he
Speaker 1: kisses Jerry. I don't understand what that was about.
Speaker 3: But they kind of are making the case of like
Speaker 3: he's from California, his long hair, he must be gay,
Speaker 3: which is another thing that they're all But he's like,
Speaker 3: I don't care, call me gay. I don't give Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's really progressive.
Speaker 1: He's super very progressive.
Speaker 3: Right, He's very comfortable in his own skin. I mean
Speaker 3: he's got handsome skin, so whatever. But he's but yeah,
Speaker 3: he's but and then there's a whole thing Donald fays On.
Speaker 3: He's like, starts talking to the girls. I have a
Speaker 3: crush in Sunshine. He's like, he's from California, don't you
Speaker 3: know that? And then these other guys are giving him
Speaker 3: a hard time for talking to the white girls.
Speaker 2: So there's always this tension.
Speaker 1: Always they can't win. Yeah, there's also a whole segment
Speaker 1: where they all learn the power of yo mama jokes. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm a fan. I love your mama.
Speaker 3: Your mama jokes, my back hurts. Some care of your mama.
Speaker 2: That always makes me.
Speaker 1: Well, it was so funny. Is one of the black
Speaker 1: students makes the joke about someone about a white guy's
Speaker 1: mom and white guys don't. He's like get it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's like, what did you say about my mother? And
Speaker 1: then like Julius is like hang back a minute, Like
Speaker 1: he's like, give it a minute so you can see
Speaker 1: where this is going. And it's all like your mama jokes,
Speaker 1: which I used to have a whole book of your
Speaker 1: mama jokes.
Speaker 3: Oh I've got some good ones. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I gave it to my niece Laura La and then
Speaker 1: she was obsessed with your mama jokes for a while.
Speaker 1: It's it's real good.
Speaker 2: It's the dozens.
Speaker 3: That was what it was called when my dad was
Speaker 3: a kid, which is he grew up in far Rockaway
Speaker 3: and the dozens is like the dozen insults you could
Speaker 3: throw at someboddy. Basically, it's just it's like insult comics
Speaker 3: like Don Rickles or something, but it's just insulting each other.
Speaker 3: The shoes and your haircut and you're this and you're that.
Speaker 3: It's just it's a form of love. But it's like
Speaker 3: hard for tea, Yeah it is. Yeah, Yeah that part
Speaker 3: really cracked me out.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what else do we get?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: We get told that. So Denzel Washington's character, you know,
Speaker 1: he becomes the head coach, but of course you have
Speaker 1: to be perfect if you want to keep your job,
Speaker 1: so they can't. He can't lose a single game. If
Speaker 1: if they lose a game, they are going to they're
Speaker 1: going to fire him. But he doesn't seem to ever
Speaker 1: tell anybody that. But they go on to surprise, they
Speaker 1: win every game.
Speaker 2: The Titans do really well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost like, you know, it was a benefit
Speaker 1: to integrate the team, and they they absolutely win. There's
Speaker 1: a whole thing where like a bunch of the white
Speaker 1: parents are like, we're not going to let my kids play,
Speaker 1: or there's a whole thing where they're going to make
Speaker 1: the refs are gonna not side with the Titan right,
Speaker 1: So that Will Patten's character can be head coach again.
Speaker 1: And he's just like this is fucked up. Don't like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell everybody what you're doing, because he he
Speaker 1: just wants to coach football, and he wants the team
Speaker 1: to win, and he.
Speaker 3: Wants it to be fair. The best person I'll get
Speaker 3: the job. If I'm second best, then I should have
Speaker 3: the second best job. Like he's totally fine with it,
Speaker 3: Like he understands, like the merit is actually what you
Speaker 3: can do, and when you're in a town where there's
Speaker 3: more competition.
Speaker 2: You have to be better. That's just how it is. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and so the best best people get picked.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think he finally he acknowledges at some
Speaker 1: point will Patten's character that he wasn't the right person
Speaker 1: to bring the team together. It needed to be Denzel
Speaker 1: Washington to integrate this team. They needed a tyrant basically basically,
Speaker 1: and he's not a tyrant, and he well, no.
Speaker 3: But he was like, I mean I would say, he's
Speaker 3: what's the word I'm thinking of. I mean, it's the
Speaker 3: benevolent dictator, Like he he has a decent Yeah, he's
Speaker 3: there for the decency, but he's also there to win games.
Speaker 3: And he's also there like it's my way in the highway.
Speaker 2: So yeah, but he's not wrong.
Speaker 1: I also love the relationship between the coaches daughters. I
Speaker 1: think it's pretty cute.
Speaker 3: It's cute. Hayden Panit here is like obsessed with football
Speaker 3: and I guess the dad's a widower and so it's
Speaker 3: just the two of them. And in real life, the
Speaker 3: coach had four daughters. Yeah, and it was, but he
Speaker 3: based it on they based it on one dog because
Speaker 3: that you know, it's a show business. They have to
Speaker 3: like take the stories. And I love Denzel's wife is
Speaker 3: so beautiful, like beautiful, and his daughter is like a
Speaker 3: total press and like hates football and doesn't give a shit.
Speaker 1: But it's so funny because the Hayden keeps talking about
Speaker 1: football and Denzel Washington's daughters like, I don't care.
Speaker 3: I literally don't care.
Speaker 2: You're poor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they they do sit together and they're excited
Speaker 1: watching the game too. It's very cute. It's Yeah, their
Speaker 1: dads are friends. Yeah, their dad's are friends. Sometimes you
Speaker 1: got to make it work with sometimes the parents are friends,
Speaker 1: and you got to make it work. We got to
Speaker 1: make it where I would normally hang out with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's life.
Speaker 1: It is life. Oh. So they they win their they
Speaker 1: win their game or a game, I should say. And
Speaker 1: then there's a whole thing where I didn't know about
Speaker 1: any of this. This was a surprise to me. They
Speaker 1: are gonna celebrate and Jerry's out driving his car aw
Speaker 1: and he gets hit by there's an accident and he
Speaker 1: is paralyzed. I did not know that that's why this
Speaker 1: movie was going.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's a gut punch, But I remember the
Speaker 3: first time I saw it, it was like a gut
Speaker 3: punch to me because I was I was sort of like,
Speaker 3: where's the story going?
Speaker 2: Because they still have some more time to go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they had a whole thing where Jerry's mother
Speaker 3: like really didn't wasn't into her son having a black friend,
Speaker 3: much less a best friend that was gonna come over
Speaker 3: all the time and hug her, and.
Speaker 1: I do I love that? Like how Julius basically just yeah,
Speaker 1: he just shows up and hugs her and like kind
Speaker 1: of breaks her down, like you're gonna like me, You're
Speaker 1: gonna like me. There's nothing you can do about it.
Speaker 3: But your son and I are BFFs. You're gonna have
Speaker 3: to get used to this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so he's they they kind of gloss over
Speaker 1: Jerry's acceptance of what has happened to him, like he
Speaker 1: seems he handles it like a real champ in this movie.
Speaker 2: He really does.
Speaker 1: Yeah he does. But you know the whole thing about
Speaker 1: like Julius comes in and the nurse's like only family,
Speaker 1: and he says, you need your eyes checked. That's my brother,
Speaker 1: and I was like.
Speaker 3: Oh, I know, I know me too.
Speaker 2: I'm a sucker for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like pretty quickly like Jerry's like, I'm paralyzed,
Speaker 1: but I've heard of this thing called the Paralympic and
Speaker 1: like I was like, wow, that was record time, Jerry.
Speaker 1: But it's a movie and they got to move things along,
Speaker 1: so it's pretty fast before Jerry's like what are you
Speaker 1: gonna do? Like, which you know, he's based on a
Speaker 1: this is all based on a real story.
Speaker 2: It's all based on a real story that really did happen.
Speaker 3: And unfortunately, he spoiler, he passes away due to the
Speaker 3: injuries like later on in his life.
Speaker 1: So they say that I he So he did win
Speaker 1: a gold medal for the shock put in the Paralympic Games,
Speaker 1: but then he was in another car accident for he
Speaker 1: was hit by a drunk driver.
Speaker 3: Oh, and I was like, Jesus, how much could one
Speaker 3: person tell? You know, I was like poor Jerry, right.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 3: And that's how they open the movie and you don't
Speaker 3: realize that until later.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know they're all together for a funeral and
Speaker 1: you don't know whose funeral it.
Speaker 3: Is, right, you assume it's the father or somebody older,
Speaker 3: but it's Jerry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, spoiler spoiler. It is really sad and so but
Speaker 1: there is still like one more big game and Jerry
Speaker 1: is watching it from his hospital room and they keep
Speaker 1: cutting back to him, and you know, they win. They
Speaker 1: win the big game. Everybody yeah, yeah, which you know
Speaker 1: they would like, Yeah, they do a big comeback in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Everyone plays as the team they win.
Speaker 1: The other coach actually shakes Denzel Washington's hand, which seemed
Speaker 1: to not be a thing at any of the other games,
Speaker 1: because again, everybody's so fucking racist. And then it goes
Speaker 1: back to the it cuts back to the funeral and
Speaker 1: it's again I was like, poor poor Jerry, and Julius
Speaker 1: is there with Jerry's mother and they're like holding hands
Speaker 1: and like they sing like a really sad version of
Speaker 1: that like hey, hey kiss him good. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, like the saddest version of that song.
Speaker 1: It's so sad, you know, And then they give us
Speaker 1: a little like and then this happened, and this happened,
Speaker 1: and it's you know, Denzel Washington's character coaches for a
Speaker 1: while before retiring, and I was like, but did he retire?
Speaker 1: Because I think he.
Speaker 3: Might have been.
Speaker 2: He was fired.
Speaker 1: It was for yeah, yeah he was not.
Speaker 2: He had some issues, you know.
Speaker 1: Apparently Will Patten's character coached with him for like a
Speaker 1: few more years. They were actually really good friends. Jerry
Speaker 1: and Julius were actually really good friends in real life,
Speaker 1: like and everyone else like basically goes to college and
Speaker 1: stays in the city and works and whatnot. But the
Speaker 1: Jerry stuff, I was like, what the fuck? All the Titans.
Speaker 3: And Hayden kind of tear her character in real life
Speaker 3: that it's based on the daughter that she's playing.
Speaker 2: She died.
Speaker 1: She died at like thirty four.
Speaker 3: Right from a heart issue, from a heart condition, I know.
Speaker 3: So yeah, you never know when it's your turn. That's
Speaker 3: my point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's really like tell I think, no, you go.
Speaker 2: I just really enjoy this movie.
Speaker 3: I know it's predictable in some pieces, like it's you know,
Speaker 3: it is following stuff you've heard before other films, especially
Speaker 3: films about sports and race and that kind of thing.
Speaker 3: But I think it does it really well. I think
Speaker 3: it's got kind of an edge to it. I think
Speaker 3: it also has really good performances. I think the music
Speaker 3: is really cool and interesting, like it just feels like
Speaker 3: it's a part of that time. It gives you a
Speaker 3: sense of time of place, and you're really absorbed in it,
Speaker 3: and you really do care about these people. And they're not.
Speaker 3: No one's perfect. I mean, people have their bad days.
Speaker 3: People get mad for dumb reasons or not dumb reasons.
Speaker 3: I also appreciate the scene where you know, Hayden Panita
Speaker 3: staying over at their house, you know, hanging out with
Speaker 3: a daughter, and then somebody threw a rock in the window,
Speaker 3: which is what really happened to that coach, and of
Speaker 3: course her father's upset.
Speaker 2: About her being a part of this.
Speaker 3: And and Denzel Washington because you know, he was a
Speaker 3: tough guy. He's like, I'm glad she saw it because
Speaker 3: she needs to know, like this is you know, this
Speaker 3: is what my daughter puts up with. Anything that makes
Speaker 3: me feel And it's right, you know, it's okay for
Speaker 3: your daughter to experience it, but not you know, for
Speaker 3: his daughter experienced it but not yours.
Speaker 2: Like it's terrible that both of them go through.
Speaker 1: That exactly, and well, and it it addresses those things,
Speaker 1: but it addresses it pretty quickly. Yeah, And I feel
Speaker 1: like mostly honestly, and I just I really like this movie.
Speaker 1: I was really good that you suggested it, Like it
Speaker 1: is it other than the stuff with Jerry, which again
Speaker 1: I didn't know was coming. Like this movie's pretty much
Speaker 1: exactly what you think it's going to be, right, I'm
Speaker 1: okay with that, Like, yeah, it's okay, Like this is
Speaker 1: a good movie for I think I think more younger
Speaker 1: people should probably see this movie.
Speaker 2: Like I think so too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, we can be like, well, let's really train
Speaker 1: it's predictable or whatever. Yeah, but there's a reason it.
Speaker 3: Like it works and it's a lesson. We still need
Speaker 3: to talk about that. That's why you keep repeating it.
Speaker 3: It's not like we're all okay, we don't need to
Speaker 3: hear these stories anymore, Like, no, it needs to be
Speaker 3: and you need to feel it like.
Speaker 2: You're a part of it, Yeah, in order to understand it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good one. And I think all the
Speaker 1: young actors do a really good job of making us
Speaker 1: care about them, making them, making us understand where they're
Speaker 1: coming from, with the accept with the exception of someone
Speaker 1: who plays a real dick and he's just a dick
Speaker 1: till the end. I forget that character's name, but he's
Speaker 1: the front player. Yeah, that gets kicked off the team.
Speaker 1: I'm like, he's kind of a dick.
Speaker 3: Oh, but you know who that guy is. He's just
Speaker 3: an angry white man. Like his whole life, He's gonna
Speaker 3: be a pissed off dude, like always gotta.
Speaker 2: Feel grievances from this guy.
Speaker 1: Right, Nobody understands the trouble he's seen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it put up. Yeah, I'm really suffering.
Speaker 1: There's no opportunities for guys like me. Yeah, yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: sure chance. Would you like to hear some of the
Speaker 1: other movies that came out in two thousands? Yes, please,
Speaker 1: or I should say two thousand. In the year two thousand,
Speaker 1: these movies came out Scream three. Oh wow, it was
Speaker 1: already three then, and we're already up to three by
Speaker 1: the year two thousand. I'll try not to keep saying
Speaker 1: it that way.
Speaker 2: That's a good movie.
Speaker 1: That's Leonardo DiCaprio.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I people, it's definitely a book versus movie kind of argument.
Speaker 2: People get.
Speaker 3: I personally like the movie better, but it's sad because
Speaker 3: it was filmed in Thailand. I believe it was a
Speaker 3: very It was this not a resort. It was an
Speaker 3: island that they found that was the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 3: And then ever since this movie came out just twenty
Speaker 3: five years ago, now like it's all been decimated, like
Speaker 3: that ecosystem is gone.
Speaker 1: That's really sad. Yeah, they well they've been hit with
Speaker 1: multiple tsunamis.
Speaker 3: And what yes too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the first Final Destination came out.
Speaker 2: What's Final Destination?
Speaker 1: Oh, that's the movie where like people get a glimpse
Speaker 1: of their death and then it happens.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know this movie.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's like one of those like you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I hope I don't slip in the shaft and die,
Speaker 1: and then they do or the person in it. Oh,
Speaker 1: good question. Let me look it up. I'm trying to remember.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's in this first one. It's in
Speaker 1: maybe the second or third one. But there's this whole
Speaker 1: thing where like a person is driving behind a truck
Speaker 1: that has like logs sticking out in the back, and
Speaker 1: you'll never guess what happens. The truck stops suddenly and
Speaker 1: the person like rear ends and like log like knocks
Speaker 1: their head off basically. And every time I see one
Speaker 1: of those log trucks, I'm like fuck that getting another lane.
Speaker 1: The cast includes Ali Larder, Tony Todd, Devon Swa. I
Speaker 1: think is how you pronounce it. It's so early two thousand, Sean,
Speaker 1: Sean William Scott, Oh Stiffler, Yeah, Kurse Smith from Dawson's Creek.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. All of these people are so early
Speaker 1: two thousands. But there's a whole series of them. There's like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, how many one, two, three, four, five?
Speaker 1: There's like six of them?
Speaker 3: Jesus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're those first couple are pretty entertaining if you
Speaker 1: you like the horror movies, which I know you do.
Speaker 1: Twenty eight Days.
Speaker 2: Yes, good movie.
Speaker 1: That's the one with Sandra Bullock and she's in Oh.
Speaker 3: Is she she's going to rehab? Yeah, rehab movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not to be confused with twenty eight days Later.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm taking it tweight days later. Yeah, twenty eight
Speaker 3: days is. Yeah, there's it's It's fine. I rather Adam
Speaker 3: Risky likes the rehab movies.
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not as fond of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Shanghai Noon.
Speaker 2: Who's that? That is?
Speaker 1: Owen Wilson and Jackie Chan Oh yeah, uh, it's it's
Speaker 1: very light and entertaining. I love Jackie Chan, like, especially
Speaker 1: like early Jackie Chan movies. This one was like their
Speaker 1: attempt to do like a rush Hour, but instead of
Speaker 1: Chris Tucker, we get so it's it's the opposite, like
Speaker 1: Motormouth versus like Owen Wilson's so laid back, like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm like laconic and I'm just a cowboy trying to
Speaker 1: do my cowboy things like it's entertaining me myself and Irene.
Speaker 3: I never really liked that one. It's Jim Carrey and
Speaker 3: is that with Renee Sallwigger.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were like dating at the time too.
Speaker 2: I think, yes, that's right.
Speaker 1: I don't recall particularly liking that one.
Speaker 3: The Patriot, that's Mel Gibson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he.
Speaker 2: I mean, I remember being a good movie. I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's still if it holds up, but.
Speaker 1: It's it's okay to still hate Mel Gibson, but you
Speaker 1: might the movie might be good. I had never seen it, actually,
Speaker 1: the tow of the Tao of Steve.
Speaker 2: I've never seen it.
Speaker 1: I saw it back in the day, and remember it's
Speaker 1: like definitely about like a certain type of man. It's funny.
Speaker 1: It came out in two thousand because it's I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's very nineties to me, like that kind of man
Speaker 1: that I don't know, he just like he sleeps with everybody,
Speaker 1: and there was something about him that rubbed me the
Speaker 1: wrong way in the movie. But it's supposed to. It's
Speaker 1: supposed to. And then there's like one girl that he
Speaker 1: thinks is really cool and you know whatever, it's fine.
Speaker 1: It's Donald log Is the Star's I know.
Speaker 3: Somebody worked on that and they said he was really great.
Speaker 3: Oh good, I'm really good guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He was on a TV show on FX called Terriers
Speaker 1: that I loved, loved, and I think they only did
Speaker 1: like one or two seasons and it ended in a
Speaker 1: place where I was like, we needed like another.
Speaker 3: I think he was also in a he was in
Speaker 3: a sitcom, I think, and I think my friend worked
Speaker 3: on that and she was and she said that he
Speaker 3: was amazing, like I'm so yeah, yeah, he was great.
Speaker 1: Another football movie, The Replacements.
Speaker 2: Which I haven't seen in a long time.
Speaker 1: I have. I don't think i've seen it since the
Speaker 1: theater because I would see anything with Keanu Reeves, and
Speaker 1: I wonder I bet I might like it more now,
Speaker 1: to be honest and then the last one is Girl Fight.
Speaker 3: Filmed in Brooklyn. Gleason's Jim. Yeah, that's a that's a
Speaker 3: real fun movie to sit through, so fun. It's a riot.
Speaker 1: Michelle Rodriguez was really yes movie, but yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: it could be a bit of a tough watch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what your This came out in two thousand,
Speaker 3: It was in June.
Speaker 1: It was Oh, I didn't write down the date, but
Speaker 1: I believe you. Okay, I look it up right now
Speaker 1: if you like remember that time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just trying to get We're going to talk
Speaker 3: about the top ten songs from that year. September September
Speaker 3: of Okay, so the year, the week in the year.
Speaker 3: This came out in two thousand, September fifth or something.
Speaker 3: Number ten Creed with Warm Arms Wide Open. I had
Speaker 3: a freend that would play this over and over again.
Speaker 1: Creed was not my thing.
Speaker 3: Creed was not my thing either, and she would play
Speaker 3: can Take You, Oh My God. Number nine Christina Aguilera,
Speaker 3: Come On.
Speaker 1: Over, loved that first album.
Speaker 3: Number eight Nelly Hot Shit Country Grammar.
Speaker 1: Boo Nelly thumbs down.
Speaker 2: Thumbs down.
Speaker 3: Number seven Cisco with Incomplete even know the song listen
Speaker 3: here's a great song. Number six Matchbox twenty all in
Speaker 3: small case, small lowercase letters, bent because of the Barbie movie. Yes, Yes,
Speaker 3: Number five three Doors Down, Cryptonite.
Speaker 1: I'm going to push you around.
Speaker 3: And wow wow, I'll be your super borrow crypt at
Speaker 3: number four. So they do sound the same, they all
Speaker 3: melded together. Number four Destiny's Child, jump and jump in.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: I like that one. Love that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Number three Janet doesn't really it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 1: Jennet Jackson.
Speaker 2: I assume Miss nat Yeah, Miss Jackson, nasty.
Speaker 1: I'm nasty.
Speaker 2: Number two ninety eight degrees, give me just one night.
Speaker 1: I don't know that one.
Speaker 3: I don't know that one either. I wasn't a fan
Speaker 3: of number one, but I love the song. This is
Speaker 3: not everybody likes it, but I love it. Number one
Speaker 3: Madonna Music.
Speaker 1: Oh No, I love that song.
Speaker 3: I love that song.
Speaker 1: I loved the whole album. I went to the music
Speaker 1: tour to see like I spent.
Speaker 2: Me. Oh, such a good album I spent.
Speaker 1: I was working at the newspaper then and I made
Speaker 1: no money, and I spent all my money to get
Speaker 1: a ticket to see Madonna.
Speaker 3: I'm so poor, but she's a good show. I have to.
Speaker 1: She did put on a really good show and it
Speaker 1: was totally worth it. And it just meant that I
Speaker 1: kept showing up at my friend's house around dinner time
Speaker 1: and I was like, Hey, what are you guys doing?
Speaker 1: They're like eating dinner? Oh really, what are you having?
Speaker 1: What a coincidence that I would just show up?
Speaker 2: Beat me for?
Speaker 3: I mean, how many parties like cocktail parties to go
Speaker 3: to for things you didn't give a out like book
Speaker 3: launches and other time all the fucking time. Because all
Speaker 3: my friends are PR people, So I was always going
Speaker 3: to parties and that's how you eat sometimes, Yeah, eat
Speaker 3: my weight in or dirs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're looking to get a reporter or a
Speaker 1: PR person to come to your thing, promise them food
Speaker 1: and booze.
Speaker 2: That's how are you gonna do.
Speaker 1: I went to so many like community meetings, neighborhood meetings,
Speaker 1: just so.
Speaker 4: I could eat because I was so like, yeah, on
Speaker 4: the real estate shows too, they always show that when
Speaker 4: they're doing a house and they have like the food
Speaker 4: and the like just have food and yeah, people will.
Speaker 1: Show up yeah yeah, and we'll be like can I
Speaker 1: bring up plus one? Yeah exactly, and bring someone else
Speaker 1: from the office who also wants to eat, Like, yeah
Speaker 1: all the time. What else are you dorkying out about?
Speaker 3: My friend I am working out about Scamanda recovered Scamanda
Speaker 3: on our show and we had the woman that's the
Speaker 3: producer for this one, Charlie Webster, I think that's her name. Yeah,
Speaker 3: she was on our show for What a Creep? And
Speaker 3: so this is the documentary based on her podcast. And
Speaker 3: it's the second episode and it's on ABC, Slash, Hulu,
Speaker 3: Sash Disney if you have any of those, you should
Speaker 3: be able to see it. And it's the second part
Speaker 3: and just somebody faking cancer. And also, like I forgot
Speaker 3: about this part of the story is that she was
Speaker 3: a stepmother. She started as a babysitter for this woman
Speaker 3: and her husband and they had two daughters and one
Speaker 3: of them had leukemia. And then Amanda became close to
Speaker 3: the daughters and the husband then winds up having an
Speaker 3: affair with the husband and then they gross and then
Speaker 3: they got custody of the girls, and they made the
Speaker 3: mother look like a whore like whatever that they were
Speaker 3: saying about her, yeah, she's a messed up person, Like
Speaker 3: this is somebody like they were showing pictures of her
Speaker 3: with a shaved head. She like, I got cancer and
Speaker 3: she looked fresh as a daisy, Like she just looked
Speaker 3: just happened to have really really short hair basically, and
Speaker 3: it's just really I mean, it's also takes place in
Speaker 3: the Bay Area, and yeah, yeah, the blogging world, which
Speaker 3: is interesting, but I don't like, for somebody like you
Speaker 3: who's been through cancer twice, these stories much must infuriate you.
Speaker 1: When this happened, absolutely, and I've had cancer twice and
Speaker 1: I blogged through the whole thing. I was blogging anyway,
Speaker 1: and so it was just a continuation of what I
Speaker 1: was doing. But to hear that like somebody, it's just
Speaker 1: fucking making it up and doing like why do you
Speaker 1: want that kind of attention? I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 3: And she was at a church and at her church
Speaker 3: she was like the star of the church, and uh,
Speaker 3: it just like gets really messed up. So part is
Speaker 3: about that's part of the story which a lot of
Speaker 3: people ignore. And then it's like, what is up with
Speaker 3: that woman's husband marrying the babysitter who was only like
Speaker 3: twenty four as she had like a nine year old
Speaker 3: stepdaughter that she and I'm not saying that that doesn't
Speaker 3: happen her people can't fall in love and that they
Speaker 3: you know, my step parent can be an amazing parent,
Speaker 3: and it's like two moms for a kid.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's a great thing.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't look at it as necessarily a
Speaker 3: negative on its own, but I do sit back and
Speaker 3: I'm like, what is going on with that guy?
Speaker 1: Well? And you know, who knows? She's the kind of
Speaker 1: person who is clearly like not right in the head
Speaker 1: and very manipulative. Right, who knows what she did in that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Not that he isn't responsible for his action. He's one.
Speaker 3: He's one hundred percent. Yeah, you never hear from him
Speaker 3: in anything. So that's why I always wonder, like what
Speaker 3: was his deal? Anyway?
Speaker 2: So that's on that on Netflix.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've been watching it just I
Speaker 3: think it only dropped yesterday, the day before, but it's Apple's.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you if you started it. I
Speaker 1: haven't started it yet, but it's got a similar thing.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, So you and I also talked about
Speaker 3: this one creep. Belle Gibson is her name, and she
Speaker 3: was an Australian woman that was a food healthy lifestyle
Speaker 3: influencer slash blogger. And she's another one who said that
Speaker 3: she had brain cancer and stage four and that she
Speaker 3: was curing herself not by medicine but more of products
Speaker 3: like Apple's. And I used to be a fitness blogger
Speaker 3: and I knew people who would promote stuff like this,
Speaker 3: and it was so to see like the message of
Speaker 3: like there's there's haga, I guess they call it or MAHA,
Speaker 3: which is make America Healthy Again, and it's all this
Speaker 3: like everything is against science. Everything has to be natural,
Speaker 3: and it's like, y'all, batulism is natural, Okay, you don't
Speaker 3: want it. Just because something is natural doesn't mean it's
Speaker 3: good for you, and just because something is synthetic means
Speaker 3: it's bad for you.
Speaker 2: Like you do have to make informed choices.
Speaker 3: But she's someone who once again attached herself to a cause,
Speaker 3: and it turns out, spoiler, she didn't have cancer. But
Speaker 3: she was a part of a movement of people that
Speaker 3: were like, don't get chemotherapy, don't get this or that.
Speaker 2: Do you understand what you're geting chemo therapy? They're killing you.
Speaker 3: Well, they're killing the cancer, and like, yeah, that's the
Speaker 3: whole fucking point not to kill you, but it is
Speaker 3: to kill the cancer. So unfortunately, but they don't just
Speaker 3: kill you with it. I mean there's a whole steps
Speaker 3: and that they have to go through. I mean these
Speaker 3: under to think that all everybody in medicine is just
Speaker 3: in it for the money and they don't give a
Speaker 3: shit about people is really ridiculous because they deal with
Speaker 3: people all day every day, and they do become attached
Speaker 3: to people, and they do like want them to live,
Speaker 3: and they want to be, you know, strong, and they
Speaker 3: want to be a so worse of information and comfort.
Speaker 3: And people have different skills and some people don't have
Speaker 3: great bedside matter, but doesn't mean they're not a good doctor,
Speaker 3: and it doesn't mean don't listen to them.
Speaker 2: Yes, and just because.
Speaker 3: Somebody's lovey dubby, it seems so approachable and they put
Speaker 3: things in ways that you can understand, doesn't mean they're correct.
Speaker 3: It just means of putting a pretty bow on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, and they wanted people want things to be easier,
Speaker 1: and it's like, I'm sorry, having cancer is not easy.
Speaker 2: There isn't no, there isn't.
Speaker 1: A BuzzFeed list for you where it's like, here do
Speaker 1: these five things and you two can beat cancer. Like
Speaker 1: it's that's not gonna work. Modern medicine is amazing.
Speaker 2: It's a miracle.
Speaker 1: And the fact that there's this very vocal and I'm
Speaker 1: a minority of people that want to convince us otherwise, right,
Speaker 1: can kick rocks with open toad shoes, like this is
Speaker 1: not a medicine is amazing. And yes, chemo fucking sucks
Speaker 1: and they are like, kind of you're fucking up your
Speaker 1: body to kill it. It's yeah, and it's really hard.
Speaker 2: What does that without thinking about it first?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but drinking apple seizer vinegar is not the
Speaker 1: same thing and it's not gonna work. And the fact
Speaker 1: that we also got a documentary last year about that
Speaker 1: woman on Grey's Anatomy and made me have lies who
Speaker 1: also faked cancer. And it's like the idea that people
Speaker 1: would fake something like this to get sympathy, to grow
Speaker 1: their careers, to get the attention. It's so gross.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, h yuck, just.
Speaker 1: The I gotta watch these things.
Speaker 2: So it's based on a true story.
Speaker 3: But then they have a character that's sort of a
Speaker 3: algamum of several lifestyle bloggers, let's just say, and it's
Speaker 3: a woman that's refusing all treatment for cancer and then shock,
Speaker 3: all shocks, she gets cancer and then dies. So it's
Speaker 3: but it's also like you have to be really careful
Speaker 3: the messages you send out to people, and especially when
Speaker 3: it comes to medicine. And I used to have friends
Speaker 3: and people that would just be like raw foods.
Speaker 2: It's all raw foods.
Speaker 3: It's got it.
Speaker 2: You all.
Speaker 3: You can't cook it, can't cook it, it's bad for
Speaker 3: you to cook it. I'm like, you've got to be
Speaker 3: fucking kidding me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've watched countless documentaries when I was diagnosed with cancer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: one was, and one of them was called like it
Speaker 1: was like crazy Sexy cancer or something like that.
Speaker 2: Those women are fucked up.
Speaker 1: And her whole thing was like I think it was
Speaker 1: like rough food. No, not her scene and like all
Speaker 1: of that, and she had these she has these little
Speaker 1: spots of cancer in her brain and like they are
Speaker 1: not growing anymore since she took on this diet. Now
Speaker 1: is it the diet? It could be, but maybe not,
Speaker 1: like maybe it's just not related to that, but it's
Speaker 1: still fascinating and she's not hurting anyone. But people watch
Speaker 1: those things and they're like, well, maybe I can just
Speaker 1: stop my cancer with juicing and eating raw food, and
Speaker 1: it's not going to work for them. And it's like
Speaker 1: they could have been doing the medical maybe they could
Speaker 1: have cut this off earlier, right, and now it's farther along,
Speaker 1: Like it's just it's not a fucking game. It's just
Speaker 1: it's not a game.
Speaker 3: It's not And people, like you said, they're always looking
Speaker 3: for the easier answer, and it's so easy to demon
Speaker 3: on and it's for a good reason, you know, big
Speaker 3: pharma and insurance companies and the.
Speaker 2: Food industry and all that stuff.
Speaker 3: Like it's easy to make villains of people and then
Speaker 3: decide that everything they say is wrong or incorrect. But
Speaker 3: it's there are so many people that act. They go
Speaker 3: into the profession to actually take care of people and
Speaker 3: help people and be healthy, and it all gets mixed up.
Speaker 3: And this is why I say, you know, RFK Junior
Speaker 3: is a danger because he takes he's taking all kinds
Speaker 3: of thing. He's saying all these dyes and food are
Speaker 3: actually giving you the cancer when it's not the dyes
Speaker 3: and the food, or it could be a part of it,
Speaker 3: but heat or seed oils. You know, it's all these
Speaker 3: things that he and that he's going to that are
Speaker 3: like it's another snake oil thing of just like you know,
Speaker 3: and it's it's hurting progress and it's hurting scientific progress.
Speaker 3: There's a one character where the father of this woman
Speaker 3: who has cancer is saying, look, if you had a
Speaker 3: house and you had plumbing issues, you wouldn't call an electrician,
Speaker 3: you know, you wouldn't call a decorator, you would call
Speaker 3: a plumber because well, my body is not like plumbing.
Speaker 3: I'm like, it kind of is like you have a
Speaker 3: circulatory system, you have a respiratory system, you have your brain,
Speaker 3: you have skin, you have blood.
Speaker 2: Like there's all these different things. You get the expert
Speaker 2: to do it. No, I like this chick on Instagram,
Speaker 2: I vibe with her.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I would rather take the advice of someone
Speaker 1: who like went to medical school, is trained in this,
Speaker 1: like it's literally their job to keep you alive, as
Speaker 1: opposed to a woman on Instagram who knows how to
Speaker 1: google things like that's it's it's fucked up. They're praying
Speaker 1: Like people when someone tells you you have cancer, right,
Speaker 1: it's really fucking scary. Surprise, It's really really scary, and
Speaker 1: like some people will do anything to get rid of
Speaker 1: that fear. And you have to trust, you have to
Speaker 1: like put your faith in the medical system and do
Speaker 1: the right things, and you have to advocate for yourself
Speaker 1: with doctors and and all of those things. And it's
Speaker 1: really hard. And again, like a woman on Instagram is
Speaker 1: not going to be your answer, or man on Instagram who's.
Speaker 3: Or anyone on Instagram.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you need to go to the doctor. And
Speaker 1: if adults want to make those decisions for themselves, whatever
Speaker 1: you do. You But it's when kids get involved that
Speaker 1: it's like those kids are fucked.
Speaker 3: Like but some of these people are doing that, It's
Speaker 3: like they have kids themselves and they're not doing the
Speaker 3: thing that could absolutely you know, extend their lifespan.
Speaker 2: I don't understand that.
Speaker 1: I understand the fear and wanting to try everything you
Speaker 1: can to ye live, but absolutely but also y'all listen
Speaker 1: to your doctors, get vaccines. Yeah, do what you need
Speaker 1: to do, and just be careful with this holistic stuff,
Speaker 1: like there's a reason why we have science. I'm just saying, like, and.
Speaker 3: Cook your food please, you know, people got really sick
Speaker 3: from like undercooked meats and things, sir, or.
Speaker 1: Just discussed anyway, back when I ate meat, I was
Speaker 1: one of those people that always overcooked my chicken. Yeah
Speaker 1: it was so Yeah, I don't need meat anymore, so
Speaker 1: it's not a problem. But like, yeah, I was always
Speaker 1: afraid that I was not cooking my meat, locking up.
Speaker 1: Everything was overcooked. I was the worst, the worst, the worst.
Speaker 1: It else.
Speaker 3: Also on Max at HBO Max there's the fear of Ditty.
Speaker 3: It's another p ditty.
Speaker 2: What a fucking tool this guy.
Speaker 3: I mean also talk about going back to the early
Speaker 3: two thousands and just the kind of fame he had
Speaker 3: and what he got away with for so long.
Speaker 2: Yeah, is just he's like a few.
Speaker 3: Miles away from me by the Costco by the way,
Speaker 3: oh Brooklyn, right by the big costcoself.
Speaker 1: A dollar fifty dollar and go wave outside his cell.
Speaker 3: It's suck one of the busiest costcos in the Tri
Speaker 3: State area. And it's like anytime I've gone there, you
Speaker 3: can't get parking. It's just like but anyway, Yeah, there's
Speaker 3: a big gym there. So it was the guy from
Speaker 3: Nexium was there. Luigi's there, the guy that killed the studio,
Speaker 3: So we have a very famous prison. Anyway, that's Max.
Speaker 3: The p Diddy one. I was starting to watch that,
Speaker 3: and then of course Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and
Speaker 3: Real Housewives Assault.
Speaker 2: Lake City City.
Speaker 1: Oh so good.
Speaker 2: So Lake City just had their final reunion.
Speaker 1: Specials them gonna miss them while.
Speaker 3: Their break they're filming in a couple of weeks. Angie
Speaker 3: was on a podcast the other day. Oh bah, and
Speaker 3: she's excited. She became a star. She started the season.
Speaker 3: On the first episode, she went up to one of
Speaker 3: the cast members, Meredith, and she actually literally took out
Speaker 3: a scroll and said, I have a problem from you
Speaker 3: from last year, and these are all my grievances and
Speaker 3: started reading them out loud. She became the star of
Speaker 3: the show. That's how amazing this show is. Yes, you
Speaker 3: have no idea what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: She decided to bring it and she brought Mary along
Speaker 1: for yep, she got married to like actually participate and join,
Speaker 1: which turned out to be like such a delight of
Speaker 1: the season. Like Mary's very hard conversation with her son
Speaker 1: in front of camera that she didn't have to have
Speaker 1: and did it anyway. And also just Mary is like
Speaker 1: so naturally funny, like.
Speaker 3: One of the funniest people, and talk about people like
Speaker 3: who are saying the things you're thinking, and they just
Speaker 3: do it and you it just makes you feel like
Speaker 3: the cast is insane. They're in these bananas situations, but
Speaker 3: sometimes things happen on there that are so real that
Speaker 3: I've fried watching this show this season. Twice I was crying, crying, crying.
Speaker 3: I I don't know if I like these people, but
Speaker 3: I find them all very watchable. And it's like the
Speaker 3: best television, honest to God, like.
Speaker 2: It really is.
Speaker 3: It really is the best. It's like a perfect season.
Speaker 3: It's it's been a great show these last few years.
Speaker 3: This season, I think everybody thought they can't out do
Speaker 3: what they did last season because that was iconic, and
Speaker 3: then boom and yeah, they have a woman on there
Speaker 3: who's dating in Osmond and she says that she's Mormon,
Speaker 3: but she has sex that she drinks but you're not
Speaker 3: supposed to say that, and and he's a pig that
Speaker 3: like dms the other cast members, and he's the most awful,
Speaker 3: awful things and she's crazy, and it's Britney great.
Speaker 1: Brittany is the thirstiest YEP housewife I've ever seen. Now
Speaker 1: I'm not as steeped in the housewife lore as you are.
Speaker 1: But from what I've seen, I was like, she's so
Speaker 1: fucking thirsty, so desperate. Like she shows up, she just says, shit,
Speaker 1: that's not true, Like bron Win's responsible for my daughters
Speaker 1: not talking to me. That's not a thing that No,
Speaker 1: they were already not talking to you before you even
Speaker 1: met Brnwin. But sure, go off girl, Like she is like,
Speaker 1: I'm never getting back together. Jared Osmond and the editors
Speaker 1: are already like they're back together.
Speaker 3: Put a chiron on the screen that just says, yes,
Speaker 3: they can't. They got back together. There their Instagram official.
Speaker 1: Again again because they break up and they hate her,
Speaker 1: like they hate her because she sucks, like everything she said,
Speaker 1: like Andy's like, well, actually like because she just lies
Speaker 1: all the time. She the fact that they didn't let
Speaker 1: her stay on the couch for the ending thing, and
Speaker 1: she's like still with the like back there going, I
Speaker 1: want to still be on there? How come no one's
Speaker 1: saying nice things about me? You because everyone hates you.
Speaker 1: You suck. Brittany just suck, and everyone should take notes.
Speaker 1: Mary doesn't fuck with her because Mary knows that she's
Speaker 1: a disingenuous piece right and everyone else has more. Everyone
Speaker 1: else on that couch has more empathy for her than
Speaker 1: Mary's like nah nah.
Speaker 3: And then they bring up Jenshaw, who's like a character
Speaker 3: from the first few seasons. She's a woman that hair
Speaker 3: trigger temper, like a really bad temper, like she would
Speaker 3: freak out, and she had some business that nobody could
Speaker 3: say what it was like. But it turns out because
Speaker 3: it was all scams. Talking about scams again. She was
Speaker 3: scamming elderly people. She was scamming people, selling them like
Speaker 3: you know, computer programs and website designs and all kinds
Speaker 3: of things and selling them people thinks that they couldn't afford,
Speaker 3: you know, and it was terrible and she lied about
Speaker 3: it for years. Like they had the FBI show up
Speaker 3: on the show to her can't to her van a
Speaker 3: sprinter van that was in a parking lot for the
Speaker 3: remember this, and yeah, they surrounded the pan. So but anyway,
Speaker 3: so Mary, it's like, oh, I talked to Genshaw again.
Speaker 3: Shouldn't we have forgiveness? I'm like, wait a second, didn't
Speaker 3: you in the last episode open up your phone and
Speaker 3: describe all the times that people all your grievances for
Speaker 3: every little thing you've ever heard you know, that's okay,
Speaker 3: but like they're terrible because they're.
Speaker 2: Not like a but that's this show.
Speaker 3: Like the delusions, the delusions that people have are I
Speaker 3: mean the personality disorders. I mean it should be studied
Speaker 3: in psychology classes.
Speaker 2: It's it's some of that.
Speaker 3: And then they're on Beverly Hills. There's a woman who
Speaker 3: for years, she and her husband were like Disney villains.
Speaker 3: They were just very weird accents, weird clothes. They pretended
Speaker 3: they were super rich and you could never figure out
Speaker 3: what they did for a living. And then he is
Speaker 3: now leaving her and she's like a shell of herself,
Speaker 3: and there's somebody on the camera that's just like, you
Speaker 3: got to get out now. And this happened to me,
Speaker 3: and it happened to her on camera like two years before,
Speaker 3: and this is why you need a lawyer, This is
Speaker 3: why you need to do this. And she actually at
Speaker 3: one point says, but don't I have to think about
Speaker 3: whether or not we're going to get back together? He
Speaker 3: and she just the other one looks at her just
Speaker 3: as he doesn't want.
Speaker 2: You, which is the truth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's also between the eyes and it's like
Speaker 3: I sweared out, like dramas today don't write this well.
Speaker 3: I mean it's so like on the money and it's
Speaker 3: just like women in their fifties like talking. Yeah. Just
Speaker 3: it's really great.
Speaker 1: It's so good. I have not watched Traders.
Speaker 2: No, I think that's I might try that tonight.
Speaker 1: Yeah. A friend of mine was telling me, she's like,
Speaker 1: I feel like you would like Traders and you should
Speaker 1: watch it. And she doesn't watch Real Housewives and she's like,
Speaker 1: when the Real Housewives are on Traders, she's like, they
Speaker 1: bring a totally different vibe. Yeah, She's like, this is
Speaker 1: why it's fascinating because you get like people who are
Speaker 1: on like Survivor right behaving, Yeah, and they're like more
Speaker 1: competitive and strategic about like they want to win Traders,
Speaker 1: right or whatever. And the housewives just show up and
Speaker 1: drink and say.
Speaker 3: Shit, they have their own thing. And then there's people
Speaker 3: that are on the bat I don't watch The Bachelor
Speaker 3: or the Bachelorette, but there's people like from.
Speaker 2: That world, yeah, that they have their own thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's also if if you watch Real Housewives. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna recommend an Instagram to follow, and her name is
Speaker 1: Her account is ether Underscore Ople, So it's like e
Speaker 1: T h e er underscore Ople. And she is the
Speaker 1: one who recreates scenes with dolls.
Speaker 2: With Barbie dolls.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's the fucking funniest thing. It's so funny.
Speaker 1: And she's doing she has one out right now for
Speaker 1: the reunion for SS for Salt Lake City. And one
Speaker 1: of the running jokes is that all of them are
Speaker 1: these different barbies, but Whitney is like a little baby
Speaker 1: doll and like it's so girl, little girl, and like
Speaker 1: she is the the Bronwyn doll is wearing this massive.
Speaker 3: Like the little.
Speaker 1: Whitney doll is like like basically behind the trust. She's
Speaker 1: like I want to Barnes Lisa fucking Barlow and she's
Speaker 1: behind the It's so fun every Seriously, if you watch
Speaker 1: Real Housewives, you need to follow because and the and
Speaker 1: the housewives will comment on the videos and they're like,
Speaker 1: this is even better than the original. Yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 2: It's so good.
Speaker 3: And every once in a while at drag shows, it's
Speaker 3: become a thing where they'll just take a Real Housewives
Speaker 3: scene from any city, any season. Yes, the people, you
Speaker 3: you start to know them after a while, and then
Speaker 3: they act it out and it's the strangest, funniest thing
Speaker 3: you've seen it in your life because they're wackos.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's so good. I can never thank you and
Speaker 1: my friend Kate enough for bringing me into the real
Speaker 1: to the Real Housewives world. It has brought me so
Speaker 1: much joy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh, is there anything else on your list?
Speaker 2: Nope, that's it.
Speaker 1: I have one more thing, because I haven't watched a
Speaker 1: ton of stuff. I've been hiding from the world and
Speaker 1: playing video games. But I did go to the movies
Speaker 1: and I saw Companion, which is I don't want to
Speaker 1: because if you haven't seen a preview for it, if
Speaker 1: you can watch it without seeing a preview for it,
Speaker 1: I highly recommend it. Because I had seen a preview
Speaker 1: for it, so I kind of I knew the what
Speaker 1: is really a twist? I was like, this shouldn't be
Speaker 1: in the preview. And I saw it with my friend Fred,
Speaker 1: who had not seen a preview, and he got to
Speaker 1: enjoy the movie on a totally different level. But it
Speaker 1: stars Sophie Thatcher, who was most recently inhertic and she's
Speaker 1: on Yellow Jackets. I watched some of the first season
Speaker 1: of Yellow Jackets. She's very good she plays the younger
Speaker 1: Juliette Lewis in Yellow Jacket. Yes, and then it also
Speaker 1: stars Jack Quaid, So that's Meg Ryan and Dennis Quaid's son.
Speaker 1: And he's got his dad's smile, y'all. Just saying like.
Speaker 2: He's super funny too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like hopefully, like he's not like a dad in
Speaker 1: other ways, but like.
Speaker 3: I don't think he is.
Speaker 1: He he is very good. It's basically like they're in
Speaker 1: a remote cabin. It's like two like three couples all
Speaker 1: in a romance remote cabin. I don't want to spoil
Speaker 1: things for any.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't tell you too much about it is streaming.
Speaker 1: It is not. It's in the theater, but I'm sure
Speaker 1: it'll be streaming soon. And it's it's just it's got
Speaker 1: a lot to say about like toxic masculinity for sure,
Speaker 1: and that's all I'm gonna say about that. But it's
Speaker 1: it's super good. It's one hundred percent my jam. And
Speaker 1: when it was over, I said, I think I've seen
Speaker 1: my favorite movie of the year and it's only February.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Like I was really into it, like it
Speaker 1: it checks a lot of boxes for me. So when
Speaker 1: it's streaming definitely.
Speaker 2: She was great and heretic.
Speaker 1: She was really great. I really like her. I think
Speaker 1: I don't know she she's given star to me, Like
Speaker 1: I was, like, I feel like she's a star. She's
Speaker 1: going to be a big star. And Jack Quaid could
Speaker 1: absolutely be a big star because again he's got that
Speaker 1: dad smile, his dad's smile. Dennis Quaid was so cute
Speaker 1: back in the day, y'all.
Speaker 3: He was hot, hot stuff and good. But yeah, well
Speaker 3: he sucks, but yeah.
Speaker 1: But Companion is really really good, y'all. So check it out.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to spoil. Yeah, my list is really short,
Speaker 1: sorry everybody, But I did watch Remember the Titans, so.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you liked it.
Speaker 1: I was afraid, no, no, no, And I I all
Speaker 1: the doc the documentaries Marco's talking about, they're all on
Speaker 1: my list and I am going to I am going
Speaker 1: to be watching them. I've just been hiding from the world.
Speaker 3: Apple Cider Vinegar is actually it's like a it's a
Speaker 3: it's a they're doing a fictionalized version of it, but
Speaker 3: it's so it's not a documentary. It's like a six
Speaker 3: part series. So I'm only like halfway through, but it's
Speaker 3: very Australian. So I mean I watch a lot of
Speaker 3: below decks, so I'm used to the accident.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, below Deck down understarted. That's another I did
Speaker 1: watch that one. I'm I'm I'm all in uh surprise.
Speaker 1: I love me some Captain Jason. Margo bought me a
Speaker 1: cameo from Captain Jason for my birthday. It's one of
Speaker 1: my prize possessions. Uh, it's it's very entertaining. I'm very
Speaker 1: that's a huge.
Speaker 2: Is so fucking big.
Speaker 3: And they're in the Sacials, which is in Africa, the
Speaker 3: coast of South Africa, and they and Zarena is back
Speaker 3: and she's the chef and now they brought her to
Speaker 3: chef and he immediately.
Speaker 2: Addict to her, like he was so freaked out.
Speaker 1: But also I'm like understand where I'm like, well, she
Speaker 1: should put him to good use other than washing dishes.
Speaker 1: But like yes, so like he came off day, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he came off really shitty to her. So no wonder
Speaker 1: she doesn't trust him, right, And I'm happy to see
Speaker 1: Harry back.
Speaker 2: I loved Harry. He's such a sweetie.
Speaker 1: Someone on one of the women on here said like
Speaker 1: he's giving golden Retriever vibes and I'm like, yes, I
Speaker 1: love a Golden Retriever.
Speaker 3: Man, they're great, that's why they're a great dog. He's yeah,
Speaker 3: he's great. And then there's a guy named Johnny who's Greek,
Speaker 3: and he he comes on and he's older than everybody
Speaker 3: has the most experienced and he goes to the deck
Speaker 3: team and he's like, yeah, I'm the lead deckhand. They're like,
Speaker 3: oh okay.
Speaker 2: So then the three there's three.
Speaker 3: Guys at the bow and he has to bring in
Speaker 3: the jet skis and instead he doesn't check the jet
Speaker 3: skis for keys, and he also takes off his radio,
Speaker 3: so he starts drifting off to the seats and.
Speaker 2: The two other guys are just bullshitting in the back
Speaker 2: of the boat.
Speaker 3: He's like, hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, I have no kids.
Speaker 3: Captain Jason's like he's gonna just take off for arts unknown.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like Harry's like, ooh, mister lead decade decade
Speaker 1: he got his keys.
Speaker 3: And then it turns out he's like has a total
Speaker 3: he's like a rage aholic. So he'll probably get fired
Speaker 3: at some point. It's hard to figure o who's going
Speaker 3: to get fired? And I think, uh, the the the
Speaker 3: Chief stew Laura. Yeah, I'm interested, like how she turns
Speaker 3: out her in Sarena.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm missing uh Aisha. Yeah, I really miss her,
Speaker 1: like she's she love her great Chief Stew Yeah, I
Speaker 1: love her, her vibe with Captain Jason, like they are
Speaker 1: such a dynamic duo. But girl's got to live her life.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm happy for her to like have a
Speaker 1: season off. But I'm also like, man, I miss you.
Speaker 3: She's always great, but so great. I think they got
Speaker 3: some great people. I mean, but the ship is so
Speaker 3: huge that they actually have an elevator, and they're also
Speaker 3: the real got the steps that they were talking about,
Speaker 3: like to take the platters, Oh my god, up and
Speaker 3: down for dinner and stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I used to work in movie theaters where we had
Speaker 1: to go up like two flights of stairs to do
Speaker 1: the projectors. I used to have amazing legs, y'all, because, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm up and down those stairs a gazillion times a day.
Speaker 1: Like that's hard work, hard work. Yeah, it's such a
Speaker 1: good show.
Speaker 2: But it's a great show.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was gonna say something else about the show.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. Oh, I was gonna say something about
Speaker 1: the guests. All right, you're gonna pack all your sex
Speaker 1: toys on your vacation. Are you really gonna ask the
Speaker 1: staff to unpack your bag for you?
Speaker 2: I don't want.
Speaker 3: Oh this is another thing, like because it's it's it's just.
Speaker 2: Why did she offer it?
Speaker 3: You never offer it because it could be everybody that
Speaker 3: wants it, not just the primary right And would you
Speaker 3: want anybody going through your ship? Like I don't know nobody, No,
Speaker 3: And I don't pack anything crazy either, but I don't
Speaker 3: want to be going through I mean, I have nothing
Speaker 3: so fancy that they have to put it on nice
Speaker 3: hangers or anything. But they have the anal pets that
Speaker 3: they at and loop and this girl was like what
Speaker 3: is this for?
Speaker 2: Like she goes, where do I put this? And they're like,
Speaker 2: I guess the drawer over there because she's.
Speaker 1: Like put in the nightstand and she's not wrong. That's
Speaker 1: exactly where that should go.
Speaker 3: That's where that goes. But like yeah, they were like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you can unpack our bags, so they're in on it.
Speaker 1: They must be right, yeah, I I I wouldn't want
Speaker 1: someone to unpack my bag because again I don't want
Speaker 1: I don't want people's hands and my stuff. No, oh wait,
Speaker 1: that came out wrong.
Speaker 3: No, but it's especially like.
Speaker 2: I don't know. The people that ask for.
Speaker 3: That are always come across is very you know, they're
Speaker 3: not tethered to reality. They kind of And my favorites
Speaker 3: when they get someone to unpack and then the person
Speaker 3: just sits on the bed, gets drunk and talks to
Speaker 3: the person I'm packing for them for.
Speaker 2: Like an hour. That's become a thing which always makes
Speaker 2: me laugh.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh boy, people people, yes, they just want
Speaker 1: that level of service. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't get that. But I'm not rich. No, my friend,
Speaker 1: where can people find you on the internet.
Speaker 3: You can find me at Brooklynfitchick dot com. I'm at
Speaker 3: Brooklynfitchick for threads and Instagram. I'm still trying to make
Speaker 3: those work. I'm on blue Sky and TikTok at Brooklyn
Speaker 3: Margo and my YouTube is at my name Marco Donahue
Speaker 3: and please sign up for my YouTube. I've got a
Speaker 3: book coming out later this year, and I'm putting out
Speaker 3: groovy like a trailer for my book.
Speaker 2: I just created and all kinds of stuff so it's
Speaker 2: so can do that. It turned out great.
Speaker 1: It turned out so good. Y'all follow her. She shares
Speaker 1: clips from the movies We're gonna talk about and from
Speaker 1: her other podcast, book versus Movie. She shares stuff for
Speaker 1: What a Creep, which is our other podcast, And if
Speaker 1: you like the sound of our voices from this, you
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