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Speaker 1: start with mister Musk because obviously he'l dead one, not
Speaker 1: not your cup of tea per se. Now, obviously this
Speaker 1: is very similar. You got Bruce Campbell in a cabin
Speaker 1: Dead Knights, you got other people and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: but a bit of a toll shift. So did this
Speaker 1: total shift work for you or the full more line
Speaker 1: with the first one in your feelings?
Speaker 5: Overall, it worked for me, and that I liked this
Speaker 5: movie more. I had more fun with it. It definitely
Speaker 5: hammed up the zaniness, the silliness of it, and just
Speaker 5: Bruce Campbell just going ham doing stuff. And I like,
Speaker 5: you know, there's like less actors in this movie, or
Speaker 5: at least it feels like it, so you're just getting
Speaker 5: more of just him on screen doing crazy stuff. And
Speaker 5: you can definitely tell that there is a greater budget
Speaker 5: in this Things look better and they can just do more,
Speaker 5: I think as well, like they made what they had
Speaker 5: to work for that first one, but you can definitely
Speaker 5: tell that there's a bit an upgrade here.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I guess I don't really necessarily have a problem with
Speaker 5: them just using the same setting again, but I think
Speaker 5: it's almost hard for me to separate it. In my mind,
Speaker 5: it just feels like a bit more of the same.
Speaker 5: And then I think for me, when it comes down
Speaker 5: to it, like a lot of this movie is just
Speaker 5: kind of annoying in terms of like screaming and noises
Speaker 5: and stuff. I think that the story kind of it's
Speaker 5: almost non existent, like it's just not really there. I
Speaker 5: think the pacing's really bad in this. So, like, I
Speaker 5: don't think this is every movie I'll rewatch again in
Speaker 5: my life, but I did have a at least a
Speaker 5: better time with it than I did with the first movie.
Speaker 6: So yeah, mister.
Speaker 2: Patzer, Yeah, so I hadn't revisited this one in a
Speaker 2: hot minute. I feel like there's aspects of the first
Speaker 2: movie that I thought were in this movie, and there's
Speaker 2: aspects of the second movie that I thought were in
Speaker 2: the first movie. And looking back on it, I completely
Speaker 2: understand why I thought they were like one and the same,
Speaker 2: because it very much there is crossover. I was surprised,
Speaker 2: like I thought i'd rewatched this, like not within the
Speaker 2: last few years, but at least like within I don't know,
Speaker 2: five or six maybe, but I feel like it's been
Speaker 2: like a long time since I've actually seen this one,
Speaker 2: And yeah, it definitely hams it up it gives Bruce
Speaker 2: Campbell just more time to just just go off and
Speaker 2: just just be zany and crazy, and I think, I
Speaker 2: think like that aspect is very enjoyable. It's it's fun
Speaker 2: to just see him interact with some some monsters on
Speaker 2: on screen and pretty much just him acting with himself.
Speaker 2: It's like, damn, like he's he's really bringing his A
Speaker 2: game to this performance. But yeah, I'm I'm kind of
Speaker 2: torn on like whe whether I would rate this higher
Speaker 2: or lower than the first one as well, because I
Speaker 2: feel like the overall just like trying to be like
Speaker 2: a horror movie of what the first one is, I
Speaker 2: feel like I appreciate that more than what this one
Speaker 2: is of just being kind of a little bit goofier.
Speaker 2: But there is also elements like the basement and like
Speaker 2: the old lady in the basement that is just so
Speaker 2: iconic to me, like that that has been like some
Speaker 2: of my most favorite Evil Dead moments of just like
Speaker 2: the possessed granny in the basement. It's such like an
Speaker 2: inside or like a running inside joke in my family
Speaker 2: as well of just like you're just hearing these poundings
Speaker 2: from the basement of swall your soul, your soul, so
Speaker 2: like that has really just I feel like that that'll
Speaker 2: just stick with me like my whole life of just
Speaker 2: like growing up and just just laughing about that sequence
Speaker 2: like with my with my parents and my sister and whatnot.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think I was kind of surprised on
Speaker 2: where we went in some aspects of this one, because
Speaker 2: I don't know, I I just really thought that maybe
Speaker 2: some sequences in this movie took place in like another movie,
Speaker 2: but going for where we're going after this movie, it
Speaker 2: definitely doesn't fit in that one. So yeah, I was
Speaker 2: a little bit surprised on this view and just like
Speaker 2: where some sequences and scenes were. But overall I had
Speaker 2: a good time. Yeah, I I was gonna say, I
Speaker 2: feel like this one might be more rewatchable than what
Speaker 2: the first one is, just because like to Dylan's point,
Speaker 2: like the budget is a little bit uh like, well,
Speaker 2: it's it's a lot more than what the first one is,
Speaker 2: because what was the first movie's budget, if.
Speaker 1: You remember under it's under a million or so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this one I think is like five million or
Speaker 2: like three million, like it like it's in the multiple
Speaker 2: millions now. And just the way that certain scenes were
Speaker 2: shot or maybe like the prosthetics, like they just look
Speaker 2: a lot nicer.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, pros text pict Yeah. Budget the first one's
Speaker 1: three and seventy five thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like something that really stays the same other
Speaker 2: than like the setting is like the unique camera shots
Speaker 2: that that they chose for the first one and the
Speaker 2: second one, and even in like the next movie, the
Speaker 2: third one coming up. I feel like that's a reoccurring
Speaker 2: theme and I really really appreciate those, like those moments
Speaker 2: of just the way that they have the camera following
Speaker 2: someone or maybe it'll be like someone opening a door
Speaker 2: and it's just from like their perspective. There is moments
Speaker 2: that get a little too shaky cam and like you're
Speaker 2: really following and it just gets a little bit nauseating.
Speaker 2: But for the most part, I really really appreciate just
Speaker 2: like the film making aspect of what these movies are.
Speaker 1: So ye, and then the second one had a budget
Speaker 1: of three point five million, so theyig jump up literally
Speaker 1: pretty much three million dollars more, three million dollars in change.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this uh this film. I we missed the first
Speaker 4: one and I didn't actually watch it again.
Speaker 3: I think I said this during the retro.
Speaker 4: I didn't watch that until we did the retro, so
Speaker 4: this is my first interpretation of Evil Dead in this universe,
Speaker 4: and then obviously started watching the rest after this, but
Speaker 4: never went back to that first one. This to me
Speaker 4: was just an interesting, like a good starting point, and
Speaker 4: I feel like it could work as a weird dystopian
Speaker 4: sequel to that first one somehow, like if you want,
Speaker 4: depends how you head canone.
Speaker 3: But this one has a lot of things that I
Speaker 3: don't know why.
Speaker 4: I just it pulls me in and I feel like
Speaker 4: I could just PLoP it on every now and again
Speaker 4: and just watch it, and it's just got stuff that
Speaker 4: really works for me.
Speaker 3: It's just in the way that it is like done.
Speaker 4: It's that threshold of being like very freaky and horroresque
Speaker 4: and seeing like a whole variety of these different monster
Speaker 4: like demons possessing and stuff like that, and then getting
Speaker 4: just a bunch of other different things, and it throws
Speaker 4: in that little bit of comedy too, which is I
Speaker 4: think being younger it kind of helps when you watch
Speaker 4: this super scary shit and then it has that degree
Speaker 4: of humor that is sprinkled in and you can kind
Speaker 4: of bounce back and as like being a younger person
Speaker 4: watching this and kind of be like, Okay, it's it's
Speaker 4: not super super scary, but yeah, there's some sequences that
Speaker 4: are visually just like what the fuck?
Speaker 3: And the sound effects too are super crazy.
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure there's chimpanzees noises in this movie. I
Speaker 4: feel like, you know what I'm talking about, Kirkland just
Speaker 4: some wild things. But uh yeah, overall, I think it's
Speaker 4: it's definitely my favorite out of all of them.
Speaker 3: I would I would say so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh bold revealing that early on too, you know
Speaker 1: you got rankings, got a fifth one to see still too,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah for me, So that's what I want
Speaker 1: to talk with the first of my experience I have
Speaker 1: similar to this is the first one I had seen,
Speaker 1: and I'd see it two different times where very young.
Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone remembers. In Canada, there used
Speaker 1: to be a channel called the Scream Channel, and it
Speaker 1: was just it was like on like a digital dish,
Speaker 1: like that sort of thing where it's not cable. It's
Speaker 1: like what is a satellite TV or whatever it might be,
Speaker 1: And so they would always just like twenty four seven
Speaker 1: just scary movies TV shows stuff like that, and it
Speaker 1: was like a one two AM where I had woke
Speaker 1: and I was flipping through and I don't even think
Speaker 1: I was knew what it was. And it was the
Speaker 1: part where Ash at the very beginning, it's taken over
Speaker 1: and his head is in the puddle and he pops
Speaker 1: up and he has that face, and that was like
Speaker 1: the scariest thing in my life I had ever seen
Speaker 1: at that point, and I stopped watching a couple of
Speaker 1: minus because I just thought, and it's so funny, like
Speaker 1: what would happen throughout the movie and'd be a bit
Speaker 1: more comedic, but I'm probably like six or seven here,
Speaker 1: and like that to me was like I was frightened,
Speaker 1: Like just like the like we talked about, the perthetic
Speaker 1: system look a lot better and I think when he
Speaker 1: is that demon wise at that age, like, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: And then sometime again I saw it later on just
Speaker 1: for the first time. I don't know how, so that
Speaker 1: was my experience. Then I kind of worked my way
Speaker 1: backwards and stuff. So I like this one a lot
Speaker 1: because for me, it is the fun thing with the
Speaker 1: Evil Dead franchise is you have like your section of
Speaker 1: fans and what Evil Dead they like, and obviously with
Speaker 1: the new one and the remake, which we're gonna retro
Speaker 1: as well too or whatever. I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: a remake, whatever it is Evil Dead twenty thirteen. There's
Speaker 1: ones that lean more into the very dark, very brutal
Speaker 1: kind of you could say torture porn discussing elements, and
Speaker 1: that's definitely the ones I prefer to be Like Taylor,
Speaker 1: like a spoiler, I definitely prefer the first one because
Speaker 1: I like that there's zaniness in it, but I like
Speaker 1: that it is a bit more straight and it's a
Speaker 1: bit more scary, where this one has very comedic elements,
Speaker 1: students any elements, but I still like those. I still
Speaker 1: enjoy them. It's just like a preference. And then also
Speaker 1: when we get Army Darkness, that's like a whole other section.
Speaker 1: So like each like it's kind of cool, it's each film.
Speaker 1: I can see people liking one more for the other reason.
Speaker 1: But I think it's like what you guys said. For me,
Speaker 1: it's Bruce Campbell. I think it's just kind of I
Speaker 1: guess I get it because I look at the box
Speaker 1: office and only made five million dollars. This movie was
Speaker 1: like an X ray and movie where it's just like
Speaker 1: they So it didn't get played much places and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. So I get it, and not many people
Speaker 1: saw it. But between this and also we're gonna retro
Speaker 1: Army of the Darkness, I just don't know how Bruce
Speaker 1: Campbell's not like a lead more things. And I'm not
Speaker 1: saying like would have been like the May like a
Speaker 1: Brad picture, Like I'm not saying like the biggest start
Speaker 1: in the world. But it's just kind of sad that
Speaker 1: Army Darkness was the only studio film he like led
Speaker 1: after this and that was it. You know, he's always
Speaker 1: in stuff, but he's just he reminds me of the
Speaker 1: facial expressions he does. He feels like a Pixar character
Speaker 1: where you actually couldn't make that facial expression in real life,
Speaker 1: but he finds a way, just like to curl his
Speaker 1: eyebrows in his mouth at like a certain time where
Speaker 1: it's just he's such a talented dude, and I don't
Speaker 1: think he gets enough credit for that, especially in this
Speaker 1: where I'd say seventy percent of the movie it's just
Speaker 1: him alone having to react to whether it's his own
Speaker 1: hand or stuff on the wall that's not there, or
Speaker 1: it's a guy with the fucking puppet and he's doing
Speaker 1: a good job of he shows being scared, but the
Speaker 1: truly insanity of it all. I do like that. I
Speaker 1: feel like it is very similar to the first one
Speaker 1: as far as yeah, it's just in the cabin, but
Speaker 1: you feel how it's gone up, especially the third act.
Speaker 1: You see like the money and the budget where it
Speaker 1: goes into. So I like it a lot for Bruce
Speaker 1: Campbell's performance and the other stuff. There's good horror stuff.
Speaker 1: There's fun things. Yeah, there's your classic screaming involved. There's
Speaker 1: you know, some moments where you got certain monsters look
Speaker 1: at a certain way where okay, nowadays you can tell they're
Speaker 1: not there, and it's one of those things. But I
Speaker 1: think that's why I like the first one a bit
Speaker 1: more because there's less of the bigger monsters. But no, overall,
Speaker 1: I really like this. It's a good addition, and I
Speaker 1: know many people love this. Many people have this as
Speaker 1: like their favorite horror film. That's one of those where
Speaker 1: I look like, Okay, I could understand it's not personally
Speaker 1: mine and it's not even my favorite the franchise, but
Speaker 1: I get why because it's and I imagine too, I'd
Speaker 1: have to go back and look at all this stuff.
Speaker 1: But with most horror stuff, like this type of zany,
Speaker 1: horror wasn't a big thing, you know, like nowadays we
Speaker 1: so many different genres, but like it was, usually horror
Speaker 1: is paid pretty straight. So I think that's why it
Speaker 1: was such a cult following is because it's like, look
Speaker 1: at this movie and look at what they're doing. It's
Speaker 1: like has some comedic elements to it, where before it
Speaker 1: was there would be comedy, but it would be like
Speaker 1: the campers that are having sex and they're like pulling
Speaker 1: pranks on people. You know. This was, Hey, we're gonna
Speaker 1: use the demons and be a little zany with them
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So and if I'm wrong, please
Speaker 1: let me know some examples. But there wasn't two many
Speaker 1: of them. So yeah, no, enjoyed it. I like, as usual,
Speaker 1: I'd recommend only if you like this type of stuff.
Speaker 1: I don't think this is definitely everyone's cup of tea,
Speaker 1: Like when my mother would hate this, you know, like
Speaker 1: I know many people that this would not be their jam,
Speaker 1: this type of movie and stuff like that. So yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: so I want to start with the beginning, because that
Speaker 1: so this is the eternal debate, right if, like some
Speaker 1: people call this a sequel, some people call this a remake.
Speaker 1: So the reason why the way it is that way
Speaker 1: is because they couldn't show any footage from the original
Speaker 1: Evil Dead because of right, So that's why they wanted
Speaker 1: to do like this kind of recap remake to show
Speaker 1: you why he's in the cabin, even though I feel
Speaker 1: like if it's called Evil Dead too, you don't necessarily
Speaker 1: need that because you could go watch the first one.
Speaker 1: But again, I guess this is in a day and
Speaker 1: age where we can just go watch a movie easily, right,
Speaker 1: This first Evil Dead made like two point whatever million,
Speaker 1: probably not seen by tons of people, so I get
Speaker 1: the idea. And even then, in a way it's not
Speaker 1: technically it is like a weird remake thing because you
Speaker 1: don't see the other friends, you know, like it's a
Speaker 1: very But to me, it's almost just like a character
Speaker 1: just quickly telling you the story of what happened, and
Speaker 1: then you get to like literally the end of the
Speaker 1: movie is them going through the cabin, and that hits Bruce, right,
Speaker 1: and then we kind of pick up from that point
Speaker 1: where he's possessed and everything, and he's through the air.
Speaker 1: So what do you guys think about that kind of
Speaker 1: the the pseudo retelling of the story to get us
Speaker 1: to the sequel.
Speaker 4: Well, it's I find interesting how you can get away
Speaker 4: with if he doesn't have any of the rights, but
Speaker 4: he can like recreate this, because like, does that mean
Speaker 4: we could recreate our own Avengers endgame and get away.
Speaker 1: With Well, No, I think that's a bit. I think
Speaker 1: it's a difference when it's not so much the rights,
Speaker 1: it's just the rights to show the footage in another
Speaker 1: film perhaps, And I don't know because that's in the eighties,
Speaker 1: so I'm not sure how film walls work back then.
Speaker 1: There could be a whole bunch of different stuff now.
Speaker 1: But that's just the reason that was listed that they
Speaker 1: couldn't show footage from the first one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I didn't mind. I like, I didn't mind
Speaker 4: them redoing it at all, because again I think, is
Speaker 4: it like kind of like a more higher quality upscale
Speaker 4: from whom we saw on that first one?
Speaker 5: But how do you take it, like, is it is
Speaker 5: it the remake or is it a sequel? To you,
Speaker 5: I'm I'm curious as that Evil Dead fans, how you
Speaker 5: guys look at this thing?
Speaker 4: I take it kind of like a sequel. But it's
Speaker 4: funny because as the film starts, you get that sequel.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: It starts off where you get to get the first
Speaker 4: film and that in that like first like ten to
Speaker 4: twenty minutes of the movie, and then I feel like
Speaker 4: it it picks up and continues on right after where
Speaker 4: we left off on that first one. Because that first
Speaker 4: one where it's him outside and then it cuts out
Speaker 4: when he gets obviously attacked by the demons. That picks
Speaker 4: up now here we get to see him when he
Speaker 4: wakes up in the water, like you said, Travis with
Speaker 4: his face comes up, it's all morphed up.
Speaker 3: So now we get to see the continuation of that.
Speaker 4: So I feel like they crash course that first movie
Speaker 4: and the beginning crossover.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is a like an ultimate cut that fans
Speaker 1: have done where they edit out the beginning of this movie,
Speaker 1: like the recap and it just goes from the cabin
Speaker 1: and they put this seal Dad to an army darkness
Speaker 1: that just take out certain things and just make it
Speaker 1: one long movie and stuff like that, because even then,
Speaker 1: like this isn't that long of a movie. Armory Darkness
Speaker 1: is only like an hour twenty Like it would be
Speaker 1: like a it would be like one Return of the
Speaker 1: King if you were to put them all together, pretty much.
Speaker 1: If you're an Evil Dead fan, I would love to.
Speaker 1: I hope there's like a the next time I watch these,
Speaker 1: I hope there's like a version somewhere that's already pre
Speaker 1: edited for me to watch. I'm not gonna take the
Speaker 1: time to make that myself, but I saw them in
Speaker 1: the trim, Like, that's really cool. That'd be fun, just
Speaker 1: because it does literally from cabin to cabin to the
Speaker 1: other world.
Speaker 2: So a lot of screaming in that, a lot of screaming.
Speaker 1: A lot of four hours.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, I kind of look at
Speaker 2: it as like that pseudo sequel, because yeah, I really
Speaker 2: think that there is some crossover there things that for
Speaker 2: I mean, since I just watched the first one, like
Speaker 2: I didn't need to have some of those sequences in
Speaker 2: the in the beginning portions, but I still understand why
Speaker 2: they're in there. It's almost like a like an alternate
Speaker 2: universe sort of situation though, because it's like, how does
Speaker 2: it go from like being possessed like in this situation
Speaker 2: where he's just fine with being in the exact same
Speaker 2: situation not know what's going on. So uh, and that's
Speaker 2: something that coming into it because it's been so long
Speaker 2: since I've seen this one. I didn't remember that like
Speaker 2: that's how we started it or if it even like
Speaker 2: referenced the first one at all. And like, other than
Speaker 2: like obviously the necronomicon and the tape and like the
Speaker 2: things that keep it evil dead, there's not too much
Speaker 2: that is really like the like like from Ash's perspective,
Speaker 2: like something that would tie him to the first movie
Speaker 2: other than like that locket, like the magnifying glass thing
Speaker 2: that he has. Uh, and like when he had that
Speaker 2: that because the delivery of it was like difference. In
Speaker 2: the first one, he had it like as a present,
Speaker 2: but here he just already had it out or was
Speaker 2: I can't even remember now, was she already wearing it
Speaker 2: the Yeah, So because it was like done a little
Speaker 2: bit differently there, that's where my mind was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: this is like an alternate universe now where it's it's
Speaker 2: like the same path that he's going down, just done
Speaker 2: a little bit different. It's I feel like it doesn't
Speaker 2: have major consequence at the end of the day of
Speaker 2: like if it is attached or if it's not, because
Speaker 2: I'm just in it for the crazi zaniness and the
Speaker 2: wild undead that the Dead Heights as they're labeled in
Speaker 2: the later movie. So yeah, and that was something that
Speaker 2: I was very interested coming into it because the first
Speaker 2: movie ends, I like it's kind of up for interpretation,
Speaker 2: like what exactly happens, but it's not really leading you
Speaker 2: off for a sequel. So I was kind of surprised
Speaker 2: actually with how this one opened up there.
Speaker 5: It kind of gave me just whiplash because it's super fast,
Speaker 5: Like I even wrote down the time stamp of like
Speaker 5: by the time he's decapitating Linda, that's like six minutes
Speaker 5: into the movie, Like yeah, all of that stuff occurs
Speaker 5: so quickly, And I think that's what was confusing me too,
Speaker 5: is like this this girl's name is Linda. Someone's name
Speaker 5: from the first one was also Linda. I can't remember
Speaker 5: if that's his girlfriend in that one or if it's
Speaker 5: one of the other I think.
Speaker 1: It is supposed to be the girlfriend. It's not the
Speaker 1: same actress, but I think it's supposed to.
Speaker 5: So that's yeah, what confused me because like everyone in
Speaker 5: that first one dies right except for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then at the end it's assumed that he's
Speaker 1: dying because the thing gets them, Like that's the last shot,
Speaker 1: is this creep the camera.
Speaker 6: So I guess it's hard for me to headcan in
Speaker 6: this as a sequel.
Speaker 5: And anyway, I just I don't see, like what is
Speaker 5: the argument from people on that side of the argument.
Speaker 1: I think it's just like for me, it's almost just
Speaker 1: because he's like a little loopy. All he remembers is
Speaker 1: like him and Linda together. He doesn't really remember that.
Speaker 1: It's all. It's all purely like a headcanon. Hey, this
Speaker 1: is the way I interpret it. I just take it
Speaker 1: as like almost the way you would tell a story
Speaker 1: to somebody. But you're gonna, like, if I tell a
Speaker 1: story of how me and Emily got together, I'm probably
Speaker 1: gonna leave out details of the people that were around
Speaker 1: at that time, maybe for like unless I was set
Speaker 1: up by someone like that. That's the why I kind
Speaker 1: of take it as just a quick recap. Okay, I
Speaker 1: was in love with this girl into the cabin and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. I remember watching for the first Sunday,
Speaker 1: What the fuck am I watching because it was like,
Speaker 1: even when they're reading the book, it's just like, this
Speaker 1: is just super weird. And at first I thought, when
Speaker 1: I watched Shit again going back, like, oh, is this
Speaker 1: gonna be like a oh the happy version, But really
Speaker 1: he's gonna stap out of it, and it's not like
Speaker 1: is this what he wanted to happen? But then Nolan
Speaker 1: gets her head chopped off and it's ash blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: So that's so I kind of think it it's like
Speaker 1: a traumatic retelling of the experience in his own mind.
Speaker 6: Interesting. Yeah, yeah, that kind of makes sense.
Speaker 5: I think if I had to pick one, i'd say
Speaker 5: this is a remake, which, yeah, is very interesting choice.
Speaker 5: And I feel like the fact that they couldn't show
Speaker 5: scenes from the first one is a weird limitation for
Speaker 5: them to do that, and maybe it was the thing
Speaker 5: and there's like, Okay, this first movie wasn't super popular,
Speaker 5: so we can get away with doing this and people
Speaker 5: won't really care. But it it is a very bizarre
Speaker 5: choice that they decided to go down that road at all,
Speaker 5: and I guess maybe it'd be hard to justify if
Speaker 5: it is a sequel and ashes like why would be
Speaker 5: his reason to come back to this cabin like voluntarily? Right,
Speaker 5: So it is I guess said maybe they'd fall into
Speaker 5: a bit of a trap that way. But once again,
Speaker 5: so many different ways they could have gone with the
Speaker 5: sequel that it is bizarre that they chose this direction.
Speaker 1: And it's funny too, like like you have like the
Speaker 1: movie still technically evil dead too. Yeah, but you can
Speaker 1: literally just make well it's a second part of that
Speaker 1: and I have it in the trivia. But he originally
Speaker 1: wanted the plot of this one to be the third one.
Speaker 1: That was the pitch. But I don't know how they
Speaker 1: ended up deciding on this, but that was his initial
Speaker 1: idea that he wanted it. Probably probably because this one,
Speaker 1: this one was a success at least it was like
Speaker 1: a three and he made a five million. This is
Speaker 1: in the eighties, so that's like still good enough and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. An army gets a big push. But
Speaker 1: then armies looked at as like a failure from the
Speaker 1: studio and stuff like that. But that was his initial idea,
Speaker 1: was just to do that. So I just wonder if
Speaker 1: this was almost like a hey, the first one as
Speaker 1: a cult following, I can't do that third one. Yet
Speaker 1: what a way I kind of like reintroduce this again.
Speaker 1: It's weird for the audience because like if they're gonna
Speaker 1: see the two, I wonder what eighty audience has thought
Speaker 1: back then, like can I go see a movie without
Speaker 1: seeing the first one? So maybe that was an idea
Speaker 1: of while we can recap it at a little bit
Speaker 1: for the people. But yeah, maybe it's just kind of
Speaker 1: like a testing ground too, to just show okay, you
Speaker 1: can do it, or almost. Like the other argument for
Speaker 1: the remake stature is that it's because he gets a
Speaker 1: bigger budget, you can kind of make like the like
Speaker 1: the deamn knights and the creatures and like the trees
Speaker 1: look better, right, Like everything looks better, everything looks better
Speaker 1: lin and stuff like that. This movie actually takes place
Speaker 1: in a gymnasium this time, not an actual just cabin
Speaker 1: where they're just getting sick and they're sleeping outside. They yeah,
Speaker 1: they recreated it in a gym they rented out and
Speaker 1: just did everything the cab and the green, the trees
Speaker 1: and stuff. So that's probably better too, because I guarantee
Speaker 1: Bruce Campbell maybe not have given this type of performance
Speaker 1: if it was in the set of the first one,
Speaker 1: where these people were like getting sick while filming this movie.
Speaker 1: At least this is like, hey, you're in a warm
Speaker 1: gym where you literally go to the bathroom at any point.
Speaker 1: You sleep in a hotel. So that's almost the remake
Speaker 1: argument too, is that like they got time to run
Speaker 1: it back and more money, better care for the crew
Speaker 1: and everything like that, and plus you get to do
Speaker 1: things differently this go around.
Speaker 2: You know, stuff that you probably like thought of as
Speaker 2: an afterthought, Like in the first movie it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: this world have been sweet if he did that, yeah,
Speaker 2: basement scene, Yeah.
Speaker 1: The base and it's no offense to the other actors.
Speaker 1: I think it's also the same thing too, And you
Speaker 1: watch You Feel Dead, you're kind of like, this might
Speaker 1: be better if it's mostly just Bruce Campbell, And I
Speaker 1: think that happens here too, where like it is like
Speaker 1: and I think you could tell the first one again
Speaker 1: with better actors, but also the same time, I think
Speaker 1: they just were like, Okay, you have something here with Campbell,
Speaker 1: like let's let him go a bit. And even then
Speaker 1: in the first one he doesn't even act that zany
Speaker 1: there's time. So the fact that unluckily him and sam
Speaker 1: our friends, so he must have knew Bruce could do
Speaker 1: this type of stuff. But like even the scene, like
Speaker 1: for me, it's like a miracle of how well it
Speaker 1: works because this is not cgi, it's not effects him
Speaker 1: versus his hand. That how well he pulls off that
Speaker 1: entire scene, That to me, and that is always like
Speaker 1: the set piece of this movie. When I think of
Speaker 1: this movie, I think of him versus the hand, from
Speaker 1: everything to the movements to when he steps on he
Speaker 1: has that saw and he's making these faces and he
Speaker 1: looks up the camera and everything like that whole thing
Speaker 1: is like you gotta find someone really talented to do that.
Speaker 1: And even then, like I mean, that's good that he
Speaker 1: has some comedic charm and talent him too, because you
Speaker 1: need that. And that to me is always a set
Speaker 1: piece when I think of Evil Dead, even in honestly
Speaker 1: the genre, even though I like the first and better,
Speaker 1: I still just think of Bruce's hair like Ash's hand,
Speaker 1: you know, because it's just such a big way and
Speaker 1: it keeps coming back throughout the movie and it's just
Speaker 1: like such a great little gag and stuff.
Speaker 5: I mean, to your point earlier, like I had that
Speaker 5: same feeling when I was watching I mean I mentioned
Speaker 5: it in the first one that I felt like, wow,
Speaker 5: this guy has a lot of star power. Come, I
Speaker 5: didn't even know who he was because remember when we
Speaker 5: were doing our Doctor Strange review, and like that post
Speaker 5: credit comes up and I'm like, yeah, who who is
Speaker 5: kind of like why should I know who this guy is?
Speaker 5: And like I am very surprised that he did not.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Maybe he's done a lot of great movies and I
Speaker 5: just have never heard of any of them. But the
Speaker 5: fact that I didn't even.
Speaker 1: Know something big though.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 5: Weird, but like the thought I had watching this one
Speaker 5: was like, man, I've never thought that anyone else could
Speaker 5: be a good mar from Home alone, but holy yeah, Campbell,
Speaker 5: yeah would have been a fucking great MARB. Not to
Speaker 5: you know, put down. I always forget his name. What's
Speaker 5: the actor's name?
Speaker 1: Who does Oh it's Daniel something. I'll Gettern, right, Dan Stern? Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like he's a he's amazing. I know I don't
Speaker 6: want that.
Speaker 5: I don't want this reverse universe, but like, man, he
Speaker 5: would have been a great at that. And then not
Speaker 5: to jump ahead to Army, but like there's a scene
Speaker 5: in that that like confirms to me that part of
Speaker 5: that performance in that character and stuff was like inspired
Speaker 5: by this this movie in particular, and maybe even some
Speaker 5: of the character choices and stuff. I feel like, I
Speaker 5: don't know, it's it's weird because these movies still aren't
Speaker 5: huge at the box office, But I don't know. I
Speaker 5: guess I see that they seem to be pretty influential.
Speaker 5: Like I just get little like glimmers of like other
Speaker 5: movies I've seen in my life that seem to be
Speaker 5: calling back to those because this was quite a while
Speaker 5: ago when these things came out.
Speaker 1: Obviously, well, and I think too, this is the eighties
Speaker 1: where even if it makes money, I think unfortunately for him.
Speaker 1: And that's why it was such a big deal that
Speaker 1: Jamie Lee broke away. Eighties horror was looked at like
Speaker 1: the bottom tier filmmaking. It was looked at like the
Speaker 1: lowest of the low, like it was like porn and
Speaker 1: then horror movies, And there's tons of things that people
Speaker 1: would compare it to that of like it's low filmmaking.
Speaker 1: Anyone can do it. There's no passion, it's just blood
Speaker 1: and sex and stuff. So that's probably what hurt him
Speaker 1: as being like it hurt and helped him because he's
Speaker 1: had a huge career in a cult following, and they
Speaker 1: even make the show. We're not retroing the TV show.
Speaker 1: There was a show that went on for three seasons,
Speaker 1: Ash Rous the Evil Dead, and he got to lead that.
Speaker 1: But I think that's why he just got kind of
Speaker 1: type cast into Ash and no one wanted Ash the
Speaker 1: same way like Mark Hamill. No one wanted Luke Skywalker
Speaker 1: like you're Luke Skywalker, You're And I don't think Mark
Speaker 1: Hamill is doing as good as Bruce Campbell, not trying
Speaker 1: to be mean, but I think that's what happened because
Speaker 1: if you look at the eighties and Fry Thirteenth Nightmare,
Speaker 1: other than Jamie Lee, none of those actors like Kevin
Speaker 1: Bacon did But Kevin Bacon was a guy that just
Speaker 1: got randomly killed and Fried Thirteenth, he wasn't a lead guy, right,
Speaker 1: So it was I think horror. You got pigeonholed back
Speaker 1: then as you're the horror guy, you know.
Speaker 6: To what extent is Sam Raimi involved in that TV show?
Speaker 1: By the way, he directed a few episodes and he
Speaker 1: produced it. Okay, So I think he directed the pilot
Speaker 1: and a few and he might have he probably has
Speaker 1: like a story by credit, like maybe he gave a
Speaker 1: pitch for it, but it and But because the thing
Speaker 1: is with this and the other two, Bruce Campbell obviously
Speaker 1: he's there for the whole thing and he produced it
Speaker 1: because he took a big on like we talked about
Speaker 1: last movie where he did a lot of that and
Speaker 1: same thing like this. There's multiple times where he's doing
Speaker 1: scriptwrits and whatnot. And even with this new or the
Speaker 1: new sequel, he's still a producer on that. So he
Speaker 1: always like him and Sam are really like they're good friends.
Speaker 1: But I think they really both have ownership over this
Speaker 1: as far as like I don't know if it's even
Speaker 1: legally they might even legitally have legal ramfoications of hey,
Speaker 1: you own this percentage Evil Dead and I own this.
Speaker 1: But he's always involved. But yeah, Sam directed the pilot
Speaker 1: at least right now, and he kind of gave his
Speaker 1: blessing to Hey, this is good. It's a fun I
Speaker 1: will say if you ever, if you just watched me
Speaker 1: for the first time, that show is definitely more army
Speaker 1: of the darkness type of style. It's very comedic, and
Speaker 1: that's why I liked it but didn't love it. But
Speaker 1: if you love that type of the funny evil dead,
Speaker 1: that one's totally your bad because it's humor from the
Speaker 1: get go. It's very fourth wall breaking too, so.
Speaker 6: Nice Where I want to go?
Speaker 1: Yeah, where we want to go? Or do you guys
Speaker 1: have anything in the hand or anything? With Bruce Campiell
Speaker 1: the middle there.
Speaker 5: The hand scene is fantastic And I don't know what
Speaker 5: they am sure that's like just prop cutlery and dishes
Speaker 5: and stuff that he's smashing on his head. I assume
Speaker 5: I would. I would hope so for his sake, I
Speaker 5: feel like he's so dedicated. I could see him taking
Speaker 5: a couple of nasty hits. But yeah, just like I
Speaker 5: don't know, it was amazing just watch him crash all
Speaker 5: these things into his head, smack smacking into walls and
Speaker 5: mirrors and all this stuff.
Speaker 6: It's just so fun.
Speaker 1: I love.
Speaker 5: I think I'm liking more of the comedy than the
Speaker 5: horror of these things. On the opposite point of view, Travis,
Speaker 5: so that hand scene is is fantastic and you're right
Speaker 5: like his acting and it is really great as well.
Speaker 5: He's having to do two roles there is that would
Speaker 5: be decent in the hand and regular old self.
Speaker 6: So he's fantastic.
Speaker 2: That was like an aspect that I just remember, like
Speaker 2: the first time I had seen it of like the
Speaker 2: evil like the evil hand. It's just like I never
Speaker 2: could have thought of, like your one portion of your
Speaker 2: body is just like only one of it gets possessed.
Speaker 2: It's just like your hand, it just stops there. It's
Speaker 2: just a really funny aspect. And then yeah, you throw,
Speaker 2: you throw on top of Bruce Campbell's fantastic acting to it,
Speaker 2: like it really feels like it's a different entity. They're
Speaker 2: like fighting him, it's not just him versus his hand.
Speaker 2: Uh So, yeah, that that was. It's not my most
Speaker 2: memorable moment from this movie for me, it's definitely the Basement,
Speaker 2: but definitely, yeah, it's the hand goes hand in hand
Speaker 2: with evil Dead.
Speaker 1: It must have been a fun down set too. I
Speaker 1: feel like that, like them planning out those shots like
Speaker 1: what to do and just like that, and they probably
Speaker 1: like obviously, like I agreed to it's probably fake cutler
Speaker 1: and everything, but but you know in the script before
Speaker 1: they're like, probably okay, what can we use here? I
Speaker 1: just like that would have been fun to see just Bruce.
Speaker 1: And there's tons of stuff that was in this movie,
Speaker 1: like improvise and Sam Ray, which is that Edward just
Speaker 1: using that cut like they wouldn't even film like the
Speaker 1: scripted cut. They're like, yeah, this one's better than what
Speaker 1: we had planned. So I could see tons of this
Speaker 1: stuff being like just even little face movements or body
Speaker 1: movements like yeah, just just go with that, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The the whole hand thing was just super wild.
Speaker 4: I think it's it's funny just how it's cool like
Speaker 4: zombie like I guess to a sense where he gets
Speaker 4: bit on the hand by these things and if you
Speaker 4: do get bit or like cut or something, I just
Speaker 4: feel and associate that with you being fucked, like this
Speaker 4: thing will get into you now and possess you and
Speaker 4: all that stuff.
Speaker 3: So when he got multiple times like his initial.
Speaker 4: First possession, and then it came down to just his
Speaker 4: hand and he cut his hand off, and this is
Speaker 4: where it gets kind of like me, mem I guess
Speaker 4: you could say, because the chainsaw wasn't in the first one,
Speaker 4: Well no it was, but like he pulled the thing
Speaker 4: back but it was missing. So they like they hinted
Speaker 4: at this, and you wouldn't know it's a hint until
Speaker 4: you get to these later ones, when here it's like boom, chainsaw.
Speaker 4: He builds his like mechanical like attachment thing and mounts
Speaker 4: it and stuff like that, so it just gets crazy
Speaker 4: off the rails.
Speaker 3: But everything with his hand was really really well done.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 1: It's just so funny to say. I imagine if you
Speaker 1: watch the first Eel Dead and it has that type
Speaker 1: of tone, if you're say, hey, and the second one,
Speaker 1: this character is gonna have like a chainsaw for a hand.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's like such a leap, and then
Speaker 1: even more so when we get to the third one.
Speaker 1: But it's a fun like that's another just that the
Speaker 1: chainsawn arms is an iconic thing. That's just something that
Speaker 1: is and many movies allude to the chainsaw and use
Speaker 1: that as a joke and stuff like that, and that's
Speaker 1: because of this movie, because it one of those. I'm
Speaker 1: sure there's many, but this is one of those first
Speaker 1: ones that was like defined. It's like, hey, it has
Speaker 1: a cult following. It's one of these I would get
Speaker 1: passed around and stuff like that, and I had my
Speaker 1: trivia to like they they even changed the blood color
Speaker 1: because they didn't want to get Next rating. They wanted
Speaker 1: again our rating, so they changed it and it didn't matter.
Speaker 1: They still got Next anyways, Like well, we just give
Speaker 1: up like it's it is what it is because it
Speaker 1: was just deemed too violent, which I think makes sense
Speaker 1: for back then in this type of movie and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. Right, So, Kirk, I was gonna say, you're
Speaker 1: talking about the Witch. Did you know that that Witch
Speaker 1: is actually played by Sam Raimi's brother, ted Ramie.
Speaker 2: No, I didn't until I pulled up the IMDb. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's funny.
Speaker 1: And he has lots of cameras, like he's in Spider Man.
Speaker 1: He's the guy you got j Jo Jameson you got
Speaker 1: like his a little helper there. He's like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: like what should we call him? And they always go
Speaker 1: back and forth, like what about doctor Stranger? You know
Speaker 1: it was taken Like he's so ted Ramy makes a
Speaker 1: lot of cameons. But yeah, so he plays he plays
Speaker 1: the Witch down there.
Speaker 6: He gets a writing credit in the third movie.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah he does. Yeah. So yeah, and I
Speaker 1: agree with you non they're really good sequence as far
Speaker 1: as like I think the movie does a good job
Speaker 1: of it's it's just escalation. It starts with okay the
Speaker 1: first like Eviel Dead's just people being possessed, and it's okay,
Speaker 1: your hands being possessed. And then it's like there's something
Speaker 1: down there, and then obviously it just gets fucking wild
Speaker 1: at the end with like the big monster and tree.
Speaker 1: But the Witch is just like another like I kind
Speaker 1: of don't forget it, but I'm like, oh, write this
Speaker 1: thing not a bad way. I'm like, right, there's this
Speaker 1: like actual thing down there that they gotta like try
Speaker 1: and take out.
Speaker 3: Henrietta.
Speaker 1: Fucking Henrietta when.
Speaker 4: She first is like unveiled because Bruce is down there
Speaker 4: and you you don't know. And then they're just they're
Speaker 4: like listening to the passage like I buried I buried
Speaker 4: her in the basement and he freaks out with his
Speaker 4: expression and then she comes out and like, yeah, come
Speaker 4: to Henrietta, Like it's so freaking He's trying to get
Speaker 4: out and this this fucker is trying to let him out,
Speaker 4: drops the keys and just fucks up.
Speaker 3: That's Sarah. I like those moments.
Speaker 2: Fantastic facial acting there from Bruce Campbell. It just I
Speaker 2: feel like I would have reacted the exact same way
Speaker 2: if I was in that situation, just just so terrifying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you guys feel about the inclusion of
Speaker 1: the uh, like the little I don't know group of
Speaker 1: I don't know, what would you do? What was the
Speaker 1: scientific term you would call them as like the people
Speaker 1: that show up, they're like not scientists, but they're like.
Speaker 4: Like investigators or well the woman is the daughter of
Speaker 4: the sciences.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then you got those other people that are like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is the Book of Barbara, And then you got
Speaker 1: one there's always one guy who doesn't give a shit,
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to be there. They had that the
Speaker 1: friend the last maybe, and of course it's a good thing.
Speaker 1: He dies in a terrible way. But yeah, did you
Speaker 1: like any of these people?
Speaker 2: I liked like the dynamic of them coming to the
Speaker 2: cabin with Ash already there. I thought that's fun, especially
Speaker 2: just like he is fighting for his life, fighting demons,
Speaker 2: fighting his own hand, and then just like these regular
Speaker 2: joes just show up. I feel like that's a fun
Speaker 2: dynamic them. Like the reasoning for why they're there, I
Speaker 2: feel like, is it's passable. I guess for like the
Speaker 2: majority of them, but like there's this Bobby Joe character
Speaker 2: who's just like, I don't know, she's she's portrayed this
Speaker 2: like badass, like chewing gum and just like has this
Speaker 2: like bad as bad ass toned to her.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I feel like we didn't really need that, but it
Speaker 2: also just gave us another casualty to have on screen,
Speaker 2: so I totally get it. But like, out of all
Speaker 2: of them, I feel like the one I like the
Speaker 2: most was would be the one that had the family
Speaker 2: tie to Henrietta and forget the father's name. But yeah,
Speaker 2: like it's it's not it's not the most perfect like
Speaker 2: writing of like why they're there, but it works enough
Speaker 2: to just get some more players.
Speaker 1: You just need to kill count, you know. I feel
Speaker 1: like that's we need some people to die here, and
Speaker 1: it can't be Ash, so.
Speaker 6: Need some cannon fodder for sure.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I think any I think that's the daughter's
Speaker 5: name is the is the best of the bunch, but
Speaker 5: she doesn't really get to do much. He's more just
Speaker 5: like the person that Ash can kiss so that he
Speaker 5: looks badass and cool right at the end, which is
Speaker 5: totally fine, But I gotta say I was like kind of.
Speaker 5: I don't know if she says her dad's name at
Speaker 5: some point, but this whole time, I thought that she
Speaker 5: was Ash's daughter, uh, And that's why she was going
Speaker 5: to the cabin, was to go see her dad, which
Speaker 5: once again I was.
Speaker 6: Like, what the logic of all this? How would she
Speaker 6: know he's there? Like, I don't know. I wasn't really
Speaker 6: worrying about that too much.
Speaker 1: So when the kiss, you were really concerned there for
Speaker 1: a second.
Speaker 2: Eh.
Speaker 5: And that's why it was even more confused when they
Speaker 5: get to the cabin and they like knock Bruce Campbell
Speaker 5: out because I'm like, what do you what do you
Speaker 5: guys doing? Weren't you coming to look for this guy?
Speaker 5: But they're like, oh no, this is not who we're
Speaker 5: looking for. And I'm like, Okay, I guess her father
Speaker 5: was the guy in the basement. But even just the
Speaker 5: way those scenes are done, of the tapes and whatnot,
Speaker 5: I just I guess. I it's a tape, so it's
Speaker 5: probably not that old of tech. But for some reason,
Speaker 5: I just feel like that thing with the dad recording
Speaker 5: the tapes is like, you know, one hundred years ago.
Speaker 6: Or something, which once again, the tech does not make sense.
Speaker 5: For that, but it just it feels like it's some
Speaker 5: old thing that's happening the way they're uncovering it in
Speaker 5: this dusty old basement and all that.
Speaker 6: So I think that was fine.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean as for the rest of them,
Speaker 5: like you, I think each of them gets a funny
Speaker 5: scene or a cool death or some memorable moment, so
Speaker 5: they're fine their boat as good as like the people
Speaker 5: in the first movie, I guess in terms of quality
Speaker 5: for the rest of them, they're not giving too much
Speaker 5: in terms of story and acting chops and whatnot. But
Speaker 5: they have some notes here for just individual scenes from
Speaker 5: each of them that I thought was funny.
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, when that group shows up, I really
Speaker 4: did enjoy them. When I showed up and Ash just
Speaker 4: shoots that door off with a shotgun, totally could have
Speaker 4: fucking killed the guy, but then he runs through and
Speaker 4: tackles him. I don't know how he survived that, because, like,
Speaker 4: if I'm opening a door to a cabin, which I
Speaker 4: think is fine, like I would have been blown to
Speaker 4: smitherians by this double barrel.
Speaker 3: But I digress.
Speaker 2: Nick one of them, though, because wasn't the one Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: the truck guy with like on the I thought it
Speaker 2: was the year, but you probably right. The arm. I
Speaker 2: thought it was the girl like his girls with the
Speaker 2: girl Joe, she like she comes in, she's like holding
Speaker 2: his arm.
Speaker 6: Maybe she like fell over.
Speaker 4: Yeah maybe yeah, but yeah, I like the group. I
Speaker 4: like the two scientists people comeing in. I like the
Speaker 4: two like backcountry kind of folks that were just like
Speaker 4: all the bridges out and his teeth. Yeah, so they
Speaker 4: helped show them like another road to get in there.
Speaker 3: I don't get me wrong.
Speaker 4: Bruce Campbell did a great job being on his own here,
Speaker 4: but I like seeing the cannon fodder come in and
Speaker 4: just get a few more people infected and demons and
Speaker 4: stuff like.
Speaker 3: That, and it's great.
Speaker 4: There's that one scene where the guy, the scientist guy,
Speaker 4: he hits such a quick cut scene, but he immediately
Speaker 4: turns to the girl and the scene maybe it's Bobby Joe,
Speaker 4: and he's got the possessed face and he's like and
Speaker 4: then he like floats over to one of the girls
Speaker 4: and starts gnawing on her hair and then he's like
Speaker 4: coughing on It's so fucked up, it's terrifying. Yeah, creepy shit.
Speaker 4: He's like floating and Henrietta's talking in the fucking basement.
Speaker 4: It's like, man, this is just you're getting it from
Speaker 4: both ends here.
Speaker 1: A lot of floating in this one. That's something they
Speaker 1: couldn't do in the first one, really, you know, lots
Speaker 1: of floating, lots of wirework and stuff like that. So
Speaker 1: you mentioned that at the beginning where I like, not
Speaker 1: that it's like a big difference, but there's just something
Speaker 1: about like the like the first person camera, like the
Speaker 1: evil camera, demon camera that I really enjoyed, and this
Speaker 1: one I like it for the first one, but just
Speaker 1: feels like there was just it's also the budget where
Speaker 1: I love where they're going through trees, like these trees
Speaker 1: are breaking and stuff like that, and just the wishing
Speaker 1: of it I liked a lot. And the other thing
Speaker 1: I kind of like, is this not so much a
Speaker 1: camera trick, but I like in the first half where Okay,
Speaker 1: he hit the recap, he's possessed, and he gets back
Speaker 1: out there or gets back in there, he's kind of
Speaker 1: looking around stuff like that. I mean, they kind of
Speaker 1: do like multiple fake outs for the first five to
Speaker 1: ten minutes where he looks like he'll see something and
Speaker 1: something crazy will happen, and then the camera will do
Speaker 1: something cool where it kind of like zooms out the
Speaker 1: crazy stuff happening, zooms back in on him. Then when
Speaker 1: it zooms out, the stuff's like gone, and it's like
Speaker 1: is it in his mind? Or is it seen this stuff?
Speaker 1: The things with the mirror at one point where he's
Speaker 1: looking in the mirror and then like another ash comes
Speaker 1: out and strangles him, and then when he can strangle
Speaker 1: it like goes away. So I like that thing of like, kay,
Speaker 1: is he crazy because he's been in this bad experience?
Speaker 1: Is this like what the demon's messing with him? Or
Speaker 1: are these actually happening? And they're changing back so obviously
Speaker 1: eventually I think once the hand pops off, it's like
Speaker 1: the review of Okay, yeah this is we already know
Speaker 1: what's going that route. But I like the beginning where
Speaker 1: it's like is he just crazy and is it just
Speaker 1: going on in his mind? And I think they do
Speaker 1: multiple fun fake out stuff. I know it's not like
Speaker 1: I know it's real, but it's it's a fun trick
Speaker 1: to go with.
Speaker 5: What I just feel like even the name Evil Dead,
Speaker 5: like you would I going into this not knowing anything
Speaker 5: about these movies I would assume they're pretty straight ahead
Speaker 5: horror and didn't really have comedy elements to them, but
Speaker 5: like a more app name would be like Goofy Dead
Speaker 5: or like there's just a lot of like these these
Speaker 5: demons are mostly just silly, like yeah, they're doing fucked
Speaker 5: up things, but there are also just like pulling pranks
Speaker 5: essentially almost like yeah, just doing things that would make
Speaker 5: you laugh and messing with your mind in that way, right,
Speaker 5: which kind of throws the characters in the movie off,
Speaker 5: but also me as a viewer, I was like, what's
Speaker 5: going on here? So I don't know, I guess just
Speaker 5: in terms of that tonal shift and how it affects
Speaker 5: some of those comedic elements, I think it kind of
Speaker 5: worked for me.
Speaker 2: So I love I love just like the mind games overall,
Speaker 2: for like whether it's whether it's us the viewers trying
Speaker 2: to figure out if it's all just in Ash's head,
Speaker 2: but also just like the way that the like the
Speaker 2: Dead heightes just fuck with with the other people, like
Speaker 2: when they switch back to like just their human form. Uh,
Speaker 2: Like the like Henrietta like singing that song for them,
Speaker 2: Like that's for me, that's just such an iconic scene
Speaker 2: because it's like this demon thing and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: she's just like looking dead in your eyes, like it
Speaker 2: is your mom like singing this song, and uh, the
Speaker 2: lady there just completely freaks out like you're not by
Speaker 2: fucking mom or like whatever the line was, she wasn't
Speaker 2: buying it by any means, but just the way that
Speaker 2: the uh, and it's like a it's I feel like
Speaker 2: it's a thing for the entire series. Maybe not so
Speaker 2: much Army of Darkness, but the first movie had had
Speaker 2: that when Ash decapitated Linda, like her like she went
Speaker 2: human form again, just the decapitated head. So I just
Speaker 2: it's just really trippy because it's just with your mind
Speaker 2: when it's it's this thing that's so obviously evil and
Speaker 2: it is like my target. I can kill it. But
Speaker 2: then it just switches to like now I'm looking at tailor.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh no, I can't kill you now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they kind of do it again where when he
Speaker 1: has like the head and like the what is that?
Speaker 1: What's the vice? The advice? Yeah, and then it turns
Speaker 1: back to being good. It's like you would have no
Speaker 1: reason think like, oh, yeah, I could save it. Obviously
Speaker 1: he does Yeah, it's just like it's his head and
Speaker 1: advice and it's still gonna try and do that. Oh no,
Speaker 1: hash like we can get out of here, live trust
Speaker 1: me and everything like that.
Speaker 5: So yeah, one moment, I I forget what exactly it is,
Speaker 5: but I think it's actually when yeah, the character's coming
Speaker 5: up from the cellar and maybe they've locked it or
Speaker 5: something and they're just like freaking out.
Speaker 6: Uh and and.
Speaker 5: She's like, babe, you're holding my hand too tight and
Speaker 5: then it just like zooms down.
Speaker 6: And a demon hand holding her head. That was a
Speaker 6: great moment. Yeah, got a good live.
Speaker 2: It was like almost parody because I feel like I've
Speaker 2: seen that so many times. It's like I'm not holding
Speaker 2: you your hand. It goes to like this severed it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and then what was the other scene I
Speaker 1: was gonna show? Well, still the ending. But I love
Speaker 1: in any movie when they just cake a character and blood,
Speaker 1: and they did that with the first movie, but like
Speaker 1: again because the budget, they're like, well we just got
Speaker 1: a lot more blood. And they did this similar things
Speaker 1: like they did with Nightmare and Elm Street where they
Speaker 1: flipped the house so the blood could come down on them.
Speaker 1: But that kind of blood Wall see just a big
Speaker 1: fan of that. I'm a big fan of any time
Speaker 1: you're Cake and these guys and the same thing like
Speaker 1: later on when you get the big I because I
Speaker 1: don't take it as like that, so that creature, Like
Speaker 1: I love the fake where the whole first movie and
Speaker 1: second movie we get the camera right and it's moving
Speaker 1: through and everything like that. And they do that again
Speaker 1: at the very end with the big creature demon head
Speaker 1: coming through, so like you're not really expecting that, Like
Speaker 1: so far, anytime the things crashed into something, it made
Speaker 1: something smaller or just hit spruce and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So this time you have this thing coming to the
Speaker 1: cabin like okay, it's just the demon and then when
Speaker 1: a bus through door, it's just this monsters eyes head.
Speaker 1: Campbell sells it great and I love like the kill
Speaker 1: is just they wrap them up. This tree hand comes
Speaker 1: up and again it's kind of like fun alluding to
Speaker 1: that happened in the first wee in this movie where
Speaker 1: the trees come alive. Campbell got he got like covered
Speaker 1: in the trees. But I love that this is like
Speaker 1: a massive oncoming alive. But the kill is him just
Speaker 1: taking the chance on putting in its eye and it's
Speaker 1: just like just pouring like and I know there's some
Speaker 1: guys behind this machine, like they're just fucking like putting
Speaker 1: like buckets of water in this thing. But like I
Speaker 1: just I love that entire how like the whole movie escalates,
Speaker 1: but even I kind of forget like how big it
Speaker 1: actually gets. And when I was watching it, like man
Speaker 1: like between the tree, this monster head, the blood, the
Speaker 1: portal opening up. Like I feel like when you talk about, hey,
Speaker 1: if you have like a not this is an action movie,
Speaker 1: but something that has action or horror, if you talk
Speaker 1: about you want to kill your third act, I feel
Speaker 1: like it does a good job of it delivers as
Speaker 1: far as unpredictabildiness and just okay, you can see loss
Speaker 1: of the budget, wouldn't hear? And they made it worth it,
Speaker 1: you know it was. It was a fun finalem.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like I feel like that's something that I
Speaker 2: kind of I kind of get torn on on like
Speaker 2: whether I like the first one or the second one
Speaker 2: more because the scale of it. I do like how
Speaker 2: it is a little bit more contained in the first one.
Speaker 2: How it's just they read this like demon book and
Speaker 2: then they just start getting possessed, whereas in this one
Speaker 2: you get opened up to like a portal that he
Speaker 2: just gets taken to a whole nother realm and it's
Speaker 2: just a little bit too ridiculous for me, but it
Speaker 2: also fits the movie because it has just been so
Speaker 2: ridiculous up to this point and super zany, So I
Speaker 2: feel like, yeah, I personally, I probably like just the
Speaker 2: more contained aspect, just because it's a lot more simple,
Speaker 2: like on paper of just yeah, just a group of
Speaker 2: friends they go to this location. They just happen to
Speaker 2: find this like creepy book and they play the recording
Speaker 2: and then things ensue, whereas in this one, it's like
Speaker 2: six minutes in, like Dylan mentioned, and he just already
Speaker 2: decaptinates his girlfriend and you got the recording and now
Speaker 2: it's just it's fucking it's it's like a video game. Now,
Speaker 2: like it's it's just wild. We're getting crazy, and I
Speaker 2: feel like.
Speaker 1: It's like the best ri comparison is like if you
Speaker 1: guys at Hollowe never on through like the haunted mansions,
Speaker 1: or like people that make like little things and they
Speaker 1: go through and you're getting scared and jump stuff, Like
Speaker 1: that's what this whole movie feels like where the beginning
Speaker 1: sets you up and then after that just thing after
Speaker 1: thing after a thing of it's like at like it's
Speaker 1: a very fun gimmicky jumps and not it's not. They're
Speaker 1: not really jump scares, but for Bruce Campbell's character is
Speaker 1: a jump scare because you just see him reacting all
Speaker 1: the time. So it feels like a fun haunted mansion
Speaker 1: movie even though it's a haunted cabin. I guess.
Speaker 5: So I wanted to go back to that scene you
Speaker 5: mentioned Travis of when the blood is like just flying
Speaker 5: through the walls and the ground stuff. To me, that
Speaker 5: was just so funny seeing that, I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: they had money for this movie, because like doing something
Speaker 5: like that, they're like, Okay, we have the budget. Let's
Speaker 5: just what is like the most.
Speaker 6: Insane we can make this scene? Possibly? How much money?
Speaker 5: How can we spend like fifteen thousand dollars on this
Speaker 5: one shot? And they just decided to go for it.
Speaker 5: But I also I just love the way that whole
Speaker 5: scene is done where he's like just trying to get
Speaker 5: his hand and so you expect, like, yeah, there's like
Speaker 5: when he gets it, there's probably not gonna be a
Speaker 5: huge reaction and then there's like that little bit of blood,
Speaker 5: but then it's just why is this hand is spilling
Speaker 5: out just an entire lake's worth of blood, Like it's
Speaker 5: just so ridiculous.
Speaker 6: And I love that scene.
Speaker 5: And I mean, once again, like Bruce Campbell, he gets
Speaker 5: dirty for these movies. Man, he gets dirty. So I
Speaker 5: really give him props for that. There's no there's no
Speaker 5: fake in it in that scene. I feel like that's,
Speaker 5: uh feels very authentic.
Speaker 2: Just piggybacking on the the abundance of blood when if
Speaker 2: youn't even which character it is, but he gets pulled
Speaker 2: down into Henrietta's layer. It's like same thing where like
Speaker 2: just his top half is like in the uh the
Speaker 2: redneck guy with the cover off, and.
Speaker 6: Like same thing.
Speaker 2: It's like fucking splash mountain is just erupting there with
Speaker 2: just like the blood going apps Like it's it's so
Speaker 2: much more than like he probably even has like in
Speaker 2: his body of just spewing everywhere, and like the color
Speaker 2: is a little bit different. But it's just like that
Speaker 2: shock factor that they totally like they go well above
Speaker 2: and beyond the amount of liquid that they need in
Speaker 2: those sequences. But I appreciate the effort.
Speaker 1: You think they're done, and then they keep going more
Speaker 1: and then the kidding must be done, and then they
Speaker 1: keep going. You're like, oh geez, like it's just and
Speaker 1: that's where that that comedy does come in, because it
Speaker 1: comes to point like it's like gross and horrific. But
Speaker 1: then I also like you don't say, it's just like, okay,
Speaker 1: how's this humanly possible? But then you go, okay, they're
Speaker 1: demons that are like connected to hell, right, so like
Speaker 1: of course they could do these things, but when you're
Speaker 1: watching it just is just so over the top. But eventually,
Speaker 1: because the whole movie starts to go like that, you
Speaker 1: go with that, where in the first one you almost
Speaker 1: couldn't go with that, right, you could go again some
Speaker 1: like of course gets covered in blood, but like it's
Speaker 1: a very different way because he chainsaw as a person, right,
Speaker 1: and it comes at him in that first moe with
Speaker 1: that tone I don't think you could do. Okay, he
Speaker 1: gets a cut in his hand and then pooh, sure,
Speaker 1: like the base of this happens like it fits, and
Speaker 1: again they kind of a I woant to just love
Speaker 1: the I guess, but I got some notes about just
Speaker 1: like how producers would have thought about this, like seeing
Speaker 1: the first and then to this, and I wonder what
Speaker 1: they thought about seeing army darkness that. But I can
Speaker 1: just say okay, like yeah, okay, like I see, I
Speaker 1: think you're going there. And even some of the creatures
Speaker 1: pop up when they're like deformed, like squirrels and stuff,
Speaker 1: they just look kind of funny, like in a way
Speaker 1: that's on purpose, but they just look just like comedic cheesey,
Speaker 1: almost a parody, you know.
Speaker 5: I love when the house starts laughing at him and
Speaker 5: like all the different pieces of the furniture just like
Speaker 5: chuckoling and stuff like that.
Speaker 6: That was great.
Speaker 2: Like the Deerhead, right mm hm oh yeah, the deer
Speaker 2: Head is so.
Speaker 6: And he's just going crazy.
Speaker 5: Oh man, little little thing I thought was funny. This
Speaker 5: was like this whole movie. I was like starting to
Speaker 5: get more and more the Marv vibes from Home Alone.
Speaker 5: But for me, when he like sits down in that
Speaker 5: chair and then it just like crumbles under him. He
Speaker 5: just like just a very ragged all kind of way
Speaker 5: just smashes into the wall and all that.
Speaker 6: That was great.
Speaker 5: I think the movie like pretty immediately told me like
Speaker 5: what what I was in for here and then it
Speaker 5: stuck to it, which was we talked about like yeah,
Speaker 5: six minutes, he's decaptaining and he's burying her, but then
Speaker 5: like right after that, she's like out of the grave
Speaker 5: and she like wants to dance and she's like rolling
Speaker 5: the head around and kind of that weird like stop
Speaker 5: motiony sort of way that the first movie had, or
Speaker 5: like a lacking budget, but they did it.
Speaker 6: In a way that felt like a bit of a callback.
Speaker 5: Maybe still limitations of not you know, they didn't have
Speaker 5: infinite money, but it it just really worked for me.
Speaker 1: I like the whole sequence, well not I think it's
Speaker 1: right around that or right after, like there's the skeleton
Speaker 1: that's just like dancing in the yard. It's like it's
Speaker 1: like almost trying to be like seductive to him, and
Speaker 1: it's just like it's not working all because it's just
Speaker 1: like blood and bones and stuff like that. But even then,
Speaker 1: like obviously that was the beginning, but at the end
Speaker 1: when he fights like that one creature and it starts
Speaker 1: as like normal and then the head just like rows,
Speaker 1: it looks like something out of Beetlejuice. But I do
Speaker 1: think they do a good job early on. I even
Speaker 1: feel like the recap feels like a little like tongue
Speaker 1: in cheeky because just like if they make Bruce Cambell
Speaker 1: look like just so happy, he's always like they're just
Speaker 1: overly happy. And that's why I always think it like
Speaker 1: it's a way of him imagining of what it was like,
Speaker 1: but really it's not, because it's just it's crazy. So
Speaker 1: I think even the recap is a little Okay, we're
Speaker 1: we're doing a little bit something different here. Buckle up.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: One another kind of callback thing that I enjoyed is
Speaker 5: when I think this is when things are starting to
Speaker 5: get ramped up in terms of the weirdness of the
Speaker 5: house is the piano starts playing. And I think it's
Speaker 5: in that same shot when they do like that kind
Speaker 5: of panoramic thing, or like the camera just does like
Speaker 5: almost that.
Speaker 6: I think it just does a one to eighty here.
Speaker 5: But in the first movie, it's like he goes in
Speaker 5: the basement, it's like that full three sixty shot of
Speaker 5: him just looking around.
Speaker 2: It's another three sixty as well on this one when
Speaker 2: he first gets to the cabin but he's just outside.
Speaker 2: They do it like the same three sixty shot.
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, so I like that little uh callback there.
Speaker 6: The eyeball in the mouth is kind of gross.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, say mean big eyeball fan, big eyeball fan,
Speaker 1: anything else?
Speaker 6: Like h yeah, the.
Speaker 5: Henrietta is I guess the name, yeah, of that creep.
Speaker 5: I love how just I mean, it's already pretty grotesque
Speaker 5: when you first see that character, but when that when
Speaker 5: that pops out of the cellar and just moving around,
Speaker 5: like they did a really good job with the effects there.
Speaker 5: But then when the neck just like it's growing like
Speaker 5: the snake and like spinning around.
Speaker 6: Oh it was. It was great. I love that scene
Speaker 6: as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that, like I mentioned, that is the most iconic
Speaker 2: scene for me from this movie. And it's really just
Speaker 2: stuck with me that I feel like this this just
Speaker 2: like fear of like an elderly person in that setting
Speaker 2: has just totally stuck with me my entire life. Of
Speaker 2: like whether it's that that Angel's movie where you got
Speaker 2: like the granny like climbing on climbing on the like
Speaker 2: like those like they that has an effect on me. Now,
Speaker 2: if there's like a little granny that just is acting
Speaker 2: like a demonic way, it it it it gets me,
Speaker 2: and I feel like it really just derives from this movie.
Speaker 2: I probably just saw way too young.
Speaker 3: Grandma.
Speaker 6: I love my grandma, yeah absolutely, but my grandma camp no.
Speaker 1: Not camping. If you bring her to a cat she's
Speaker 1: not allowed to come on these trips.
Speaker 3: She can come stay in the basement.
Speaker 1: You're in the attic though this time.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just that I don't know what, Like,
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm not alone. I mean, they they
Speaker 2: use that like they've used that individual in like in
Speaker 2: movies in the past of like this really demonic or
Speaker 2: like def like even it chapter two and had like
Speaker 2: like like Granny that was just just wild, like wild
Speaker 2: in there, and uh yeah, it's just man, Thank thanks
Speaker 2: to this movie. I just never never look at an
Speaker 2: old lady the same, at least in that setting.
Speaker 4: It's a good twist because like I mean, I I
Speaker 4: we all love our grandma's like you know, comfort safe everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd beheaded her years ago. I saw this be like, no,
Speaker 1: we're not letting this happen. It's not. No, I agree.
Speaker 1: I think that's why, because they it's a sweet old
Speaker 1: granny complex and it works. But then there's just something
Speaker 1: always off putting about they can do because they're supposed
Speaker 1: to be loving and caring, and then when they're not,
Speaker 1: it's a it's it's it's the worst twist of fate.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: She makes like and this is what I was looking
Speaker 4: to earlier, Kirk like chimpanzee sounds, which like it's like
Speaker 4: the squeaks or the chimp noises. It's just it gets
Speaker 4: very sideways, very sideways.
Speaker 6: I H yeah.
Speaker 5: I think my last point here was is at the top,
Speaker 5: I said, I think this movie has pretty bad pace,
Speaker 5: and I think for me, it's just I don't think
Speaker 5: this movie successfully found the tone that I don't know
Speaker 5: if it was it was trying to do something specific.
Speaker 5: I think the mix of horror and comedy, like I
Speaker 5: like I said, I had a fun time with this movie,
Speaker 5: but I think I think I all these things I'm
Speaker 5: bringing up are the craziness of the zaniness, are the
Speaker 5: funny things. But for me, it's like, I don't think
Speaker 5: it ever really worked as a horror movie. I don't
Speaker 5: think I there's really no points when I was particularly scared,
Speaker 5: And I think it's just for me, it was like
Speaker 5: the it was the it was the pacing of it
Speaker 5: and the way they like built up tension and stuff
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 6: I don't think it.
Speaker 5: I don't think they ever really tried to do that,
Speaker 5: because you'd be going from something that's like goofy or
Speaker 5: silly and then like immediately into something horror wise, and
Speaker 5: it never really it just always felt like it was
Speaker 5: going at a thousand miles per second, and I feel
Speaker 5: like it never took that time that you need in
Speaker 5: a horror movie to build up something slowly alluding to
Speaker 5: what you're gonna see but you don't know what it is,
Speaker 5: probably some like music that's helping to establish that mood,
Speaker 5: and then you have whatever is a jump scare or not.
Speaker 5: I don't feel like this movie was even really trying
Speaker 5: to do that at many points. So yeah, I found
Speaker 5: I think Tonally and then like pacing wise just didn't
Speaker 5: really know what its identity was yet.
Speaker 6: And I think by the.
Speaker 5: Third one, it's totally takes a one to eighty on
Speaker 5: what the tone is trying or like what kind of
Speaker 5: movie it's trying to be. But yeah, it's I guess
Speaker 5: I'm slightly sad in a way that I almost wanted
Speaker 5: to see him Sam Raimi that is iterate on some
Speaker 5: of the ideas here more and not that I want
Speaker 5: a third movie of just the Cabin and stuff like that,
Speaker 5: but I think, you know, we go to Army of
Speaker 5: Dark is something very different, and then that's kind of it,
Speaker 5: Like obviously there's other evil dead things. But yeah, I
Speaker 5: almost would have wanted them to see some other stuff.
Speaker 5: Maybe I should just watch other movies of his from
Speaker 5: pre Spider Man days and maybe there is something else there.
Speaker 1: That I stark Man, yeah, to.
Speaker 5: See some of these weird stuff he was doing. But yeah,
Speaker 5: I still don't feel like he succeeded here, And I
Speaker 5: don't know. Maybe he succeeded what he was trying to do,
Speaker 5: but for me, it just comes across as like still
Speaker 5: something that is iterating and wasn't quite to its finished
Speaker 5: state yet, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm I'm in half with you because I
Speaker 1: think I agreed with the pacing. I think it's like
Speaker 1: a break neck pace if like they just go when
Speaker 1: they they could take time to maybe cool down for
Speaker 1: a bit. But then I also think that's almost the
Speaker 1: design he wanted. Like I said, that's why I always
Speaker 1: comparison fake It's like you're on a roller coaster even
Speaker 1: shrapped it, and then they're gonna pull the lever and
Speaker 1: you're just gonna go, and it's gonna be over in
Speaker 1: like two minutes, and it's gonna feel like, oh, I
Speaker 1: wish we could do that again, or be it could
Speaker 1: have been longer, but it's like a roller coaster, effac.
Speaker 1: That's what he's trying to do. But it is just
Speaker 1: boom boom boom, And I guess that probably I wonder
Speaker 1: if that's again by design, if he wanted that to be,
Speaker 1: if he wanted to make it feel like you're a
Speaker 1: light speed, because if you add some more scenes and
Speaker 1: the run time gets longer, I don't know if they
Speaker 1: wanted that, so I don't know if they want And
Speaker 1: that's why I guess I feel like the only cool
Speaker 1: down period is the first fifteen minutes of that cabin.
Speaker 1: That's why I guess I do like those scenes of
Speaker 1: him getting faked out and everything, because I think that's
Speaker 1: a bit slower. But I can't say you're wrong, but
Speaker 1: I think that's almost like what I think that's what
Speaker 1: he's going for, and I think for me it works
Speaker 1: the I think he did. I don't know. I guess
Speaker 1: it is to me, it is more comedic. I'm not
Speaker 1: as scared as this one is the first one, or
Speaker 1: we'll talk about the twenty thirteen version. And again I've
Speaker 1: even said this, I don't know how I'm gonna prepare
Speaker 1: for this fucking this new one. This this trailer, that trailer,
Speaker 1: it just scares the shit out of me already. I'm
Speaker 1: not prepared. And that's the one where it's like the
Speaker 1: plau is the mom getting taken over and her kids,
Speaker 1: and it's like you got little kids interacting with these things,
Speaker 1: like that's gonna be fucking crazy. So I think that
Speaker 1: it's I don't know. I'd love to say, like I
Speaker 1: don't know what he was he trying to get the
Speaker 1: middle point or was he just trying to get to
Speaker 1: more of the third one? And like, I agree with
Speaker 1: you the third one, he definitely gets there, like that's
Speaker 1: where he wants to go. So I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know what he would view, but I think I
Speaker 1: I agree as far as like pacing wise, it's yeah,
Speaker 1: you're you're you're on fast forward a little bit. But
Speaker 1: maybe that's what we won. The insanity right of just
Speaker 1: all this stuff is happening to ash very quickly and
Speaker 1: he's just losing his goddamn mind and watch.
Speaker 3: It, you know.
Speaker 2: And that's a good point there, because I feel like,
Speaker 2: for me, I I don't mind the pace for that reason,
Speaker 2: like I kind of know what I'm getting into. But
Speaker 2: if I would have seen this for the first time
Speaker 2: like this like today, you know, like to Dylan's point,
Speaker 2: like I especially looking at it as like a horror movie,
Speaker 2: I would have just been like, what is going on here?
Speaker 2: The like the the fast pace of the movie and
Speaker 2: the zany scenes like it just it like disorients to
Speaker 2: you and maybe a way that they intended because it
Speaker 2: is just so wacky and chaotic at moments. But yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's definitely a fair point. I The fact that
Speaker 2: it is just an hour twenty I think definitely like helps.
Speaker 2: If they were trying to go a lot longer with
Speaker 2: even more chaotic scenes, it might have just been too much.
Speaker 2: But because like, there is a lot of crazy stuff
Speaker 2: that happens in here, but I think a lot of
Speaker 2: it maybe just gets forgotten because of like some bigger moments,
Speaker 2: at least for myself.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is our twenty four to two. Both
Speaker 1: this an army darkness or our twenty both well.
Speaker 6: Even have a call if there was something to extend it.
Speaker 5: Like the way we're talking about this, like they had
Speaker 5: what feels like infinitely more money than they did the
Speaker 5: first time around, but they still did not have like
Speaker 5: as no, there is limitations and each minute I'm sure
Speaker 5: there's some calculator rut there. Each minute of film time,
Speaker 5: you know, has like whatever cost is going to be
Speaker 5: with editing and shooting and all this kind of stuff
Speaker 5: as well.
Speaker 1: So oh yeah, just like stage right, you go over,
Speaker 1: you gotta rent that gym one more day, right, and
Speaker 1: then that's more money and stuff like that. So yep,
Speaker 1: anything else I got trivia, but anything else to show
Speaker 1: scene wise, I've hit online.
Speaker 2: I really like I think it started in this movie.
Speaker 2: I don't remember it happened in the last movie. But
Speaker 2: he he has these like moments where he's just suiting
Speaker 2: up or like getting geared up, and just like the
Speaker 2: way the camera just like zooms in on like whatever
Speaker 2: he's like, whether it's like a glove, he's like Lynch
Speaker 2: like sinching up. Maybe I'm thinking of the next movie there,
Speaker 2: but like specifically when he's like yeah, he's getting like
Speaker 2: the change, Yeah, groovy and he's got that that one
Speaker 2: line that again spoiler, it carries on to the next project.
Speaker 2: But I thought it was definitely a fun moment because
Speaker 2: by by this area of the movie, like I'm just
Speaker 2: all all Zany, all action, all Zany, all crazy.
Speaker 1: Well, and to me, that's like that's what like obviously
Speaker 1: now everybody that walks with a Samarrai at audio like
Speaker 1: a signing, it's like say groovy, like that's his, Like
Speaker 1: that's what he's known for now, And like I think
Speaker 1: that word right there, even like that's not even what
Speaker 1: I would expect for an act like a hero, a
Speaker 1: horror hero to say in the middle like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go fight the back like Jason Freddy and Michael No
Speaker 1: one's been like groovy and then I'm gonna go. But
Speaker 1: like that to me is like it again, it's all
Speaker 1: Bruce that pulls that off, like it fits in that moment,
Speaker 1: and yeah, that's that's his. That's what he's known for now,
Speaker 1: is groovy.
Speaker 2: And like that one liner of groovy, like I feel
Speaker 2: like in this movie too, it even birth like the
Speaker 2: more just like what's the best word to describe it,
Speaker 2: just like a cliche line that like like Bace Campbell
Speaker 2: would drop whether it's like hey baby and like like
Speaker 2: just like say it in like a really weird way
Speaker 2: and Army in.
Speaker 1: Darkness, Yeah, that's it becomes an action hero.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he gets a multiplier on the amount of times
Speaker 2: that he says that stuff. But in this one, it's
Speaker 2: pretty early on, like with him and Linda. I forget
Speaker 2: specifically what they're saying, but it's something along those lines
Speaker 2: where it's like, oh, baby, come come lay it on
Speaker 2: me or whatever the hell it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's just it's just so funny because he
Speaker 1: talk and I'll say more of that for Army, but
Speaker 1: he just he just feels like it's still ash, but
Speaker 1: he just feels like such a different Like in the
Speaker 1: first movie, he's just like this like innocent guy, nice guy,
Speaker 1: trying to keep his friends together. Oh we should go
Speaker 1: on the woods. We'll drive you back to town. But
Speaker 1: this when he has like this like this little like
Speaker 1: like a little cockiness to him. Yeah, like but I
Speaker 1: almost try to headcan thats like it's just because the
Speaker 1: shit he's been through. But then when we get the Army,
Speaker 1: it's like, no, I guess this guy's always been that
Speaker 1: way and that's that. There's line. There's levels of that
Speaker 1: for me as far as how far they go with
Speaker 1: ash But.
Speaker 3: Well, he says, give me some sugar, and like, hail
Speaker 3: to the King. Baby, that's that's.
Speaker 1: The next movie.
Speaker 4: Those are I thought he said something like that in here.
Speaker 4: I think he's saying hail to the king in Uh.
Speaker 1: No, he didn't say that. Check out the next Red Show.
Speaker 1: Tell you anything specifically an add before trivia.
Speaker 3: No, I think we pretty much touched upon it. Like
Speaker 3: I just read it again.
Speaker 4: That basement stuff was great and it goes for like
Speaker 4: an exceptionally long trek down there where they're trying to.
Speaker 3: Get the pages for the book.
Speaker 4: Like the basement goes on for miles down there, Holy
Speaker 4: Shitarian basement.
Speaker 1: They connect Actually it's in one of the.
Speaker 3: Rooms, gets his tape measure out.
Speaker 4: But I do really like actually how uh they just
Speaker 4: they make you think that something's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: It's terrifying. But he gets all the way to the end.
Speaker 4: Henrietta hasn't come at him yet. Uh yeah, he's just
Speaker 4: then slowly trying to like ease out, and then it
Speaker 4: all just goes to ship.
Speaker 3: When he get chips on the stairs and ship, so yeah.
Speaker 1: All goes to ship trips in the shit some trivia here.
Speaker 1: We talked about this last time, how Stephen King was
Speaker 1: a big deal because he dropped like the review and
Speaker 1: that's on the poster stuff like that. But he was
Speaker 1: such a big fan. He convinced producer Dina Dino di
Speaker 1: lower Nidas over dinner, who was producing King's movies at
Speaker 1: the time, to have his production company Digit or it
Speaker 1: was just whatever it is finance Evil Dead two. Steve
Speaker 1: Samurai credits Stephen King for making the sequel as well
Speaker 1: as the popularity of the original possible. He couldn't acquire
Speaker 1: enough money to fund the film, so step King made
Speaker 1: a few calls, which I just talked about. So really
Speaker 1: like it looked like Evil Dead two was not gonna
Speaker 1: happen until Stephen King got involved. And it kind of
Speaker 1: sounds like it's just because Stephen King wanted to see
Speaker 1: more Evil Dead And this is like eighties, this is high,
Speaker 1: like Stephen King had his highest powers where all these
Speaker 1: books are coming out there making all these movies like
Speaker 1: Christine and It and pet Cemetery and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So I kind of liked that that he just wanted
Speaker 1: to see a second one, so he just like start
Speaker 1: talk producers, like, hey, you should produce this movie. And
Speaker 1: that's why it's funny. Because the guy some about Dino.
Speaker 1: He had to create a company called Rosebud, a supposed
Speaker 1: film production company. It was not a real institution though.
Speaker 1: He was forbidden for releasing an unrated movie on his
Speaker 1: own company, so he created this specifically just to release
Speaker 1: Evil Dead too, so he couldn't have it attached to
Speaker 1: his own production company. So he created Rosebud and that
Speaker 1: was just for this movie, and that's how they got
Speaker 1: it out there. I talked about the gymnasium. Shout out
Speaker 1: to Jerr Frasian High School in Woodsboro, North Carolina Borough. No,
Speaker 1: it's Wadesboro. Sorry, wait, it's way so it's North Carolina's
Speaker 1: scream that's that. The fictional town is Woodsboro. So uh.
Speaker 1: The large demonic head that Ash battles of the climax
Speaker 1: of film was nicknamed the Raw and Apple Head. It
Speaker 1: was too large and cumbersome for the crew to carry
Speaker 1: back to California, California, so it was left in North
Speaker 1: Carolina and soon disappeared. It's whereabout was unknown for a
Speaker 1: number of years. Until it was found in a Halloween
Speaker 1: Haunted House attractions just outside North Carolina. So somebody fucking
Speaker 1: found it brought to a haunt mansion and that's and
Speaker 1: I love It's not like they're like give it back,
Speaker 1: like there wasn't some fucking like that sort of movie
Speaker 1: like it just it got left in this like Haunted house.
Speaker 1: And I hope it's still running. I doubt it is,
Speaker 1: but yeah, tu about the rights to about Yeah, the
Speaker 1: original idea was this to Henry tossed through time in
Speaker 1: the Middle Ages, that all became darkness.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: They even made a mock up poster of Ash holding
Speaker 1: a chainsaw in medieval times and it was called Evil
Speaker 1: Dead to Evil Dead and the Army of Darkness. So
Speaker 1: there was even a poster made for that idea of
Speaker 1: him being in the medieval times. Bruce, Yeah, Bruce Campbell
Speaker 1: completely improvised the scene where he fights his hand in
Speaker 1: the kitchen samurai praise the Wornce and used the first
Speaker 1: take for the movie, so they didn't even do a
Speaker 1: second take. He just looked at it and oh, that's good.
Speaker 1: I talked about that already. The actors when they were
Speaker 1: the dead Ightes were completely blind as they had to wear.
Speaker 1: They all paque contacts lenses and they only did the
Speaker 1: scenes because they remembered through Rigger's rehearsals what to do,
Speaker 1: so that's the only way they did. Yeah, they're just
Speaker 1: having to go through. And then a glove belonging to
Speaker 1: Freddy Couger can be seen hanging in the door of
Speaker 1: the pool shit when Ash carves his girlfriend's head open
Speaker 1: with the chainsaw and when he's looking for the pages.
Speaker 1: This was done in response because the Evil Dead film
Speaker 1: is shown on television and Nightmare and Elm Street, so
Speaker 1: that was a fun like kind of you had Evil
Speaker 1: Dead the Nightmare in between, and then this for a
Speaker 1: fun thing. If everyone ever cares, one day, we'll get
Speaker 1: to Jason and Freddie. Uh, there's Freddy versus Jason Ouseley.
Speaker 1: At one point they were going to be doing a
Speaker 1: Freddie versus Jason versus Ash movie. There was a treatment
Speaker 1: ridden it didn't end up happening. But there is a
Speaker 1: comic book series of two. There's twelve issues together. It's
Speaker 1: Freddie Versus Jason Versus Ash, and then Freddie versus Jason
Speaker 1: versus Ash The Nightmare Warriors. They're very fun. The Nightmare
Speaker 1: Warriors is the kidnap. The government kidnaps Freddy and Jason.
Speaker 1: They're doing experiments on them to find out how they
Speaker 1: get these powers and stuff like that. So it's kind
Speaker 1: of cool that they wrote a movie didn't happen. They
Speaker 1: turned it into a comic book series. And I wish
Speaker 1: I would have loved to see I would have loved
Speaker 1: to see Ash fight Jason and fight Freddy, like I
Speaker 1: would have love seeing Bruce Campbell with those iconic characters
Speaker 1: and just and it's funny like at one point was
Speaker 1: being produced and I think a lot of it had
Speaker 1: to do with rights and stuff. It couldn't like the
Speaker 1: film production companies because at one point they were trying
Speaker 1: to do like Jamie Lee and that didn't happen. So
Speaker 1: different companies, you know, it's not like it is now
Speaker 1: where Marvel was working with Sony and like, oh spier
Speaker 1: Man stuff. But you know me one day.
Speaker 3: So there's a whole thing about Jason being a dead
Speaker 3: eite too and all that.
Speaker 1: Well, that was the thing where the Book of the
Speaker 1: Dead was like tied to Freddy and Jason. It's this
Speaker 1: whole like and it's fun, it's cheesy, it's a good
Speaker 1: Romp in the Nightmare Warriors. It's kind of feels like
Speaker 1: it's like some Avengers where they're bringing in like multiple characters.
Speaker 1: So if you're a fan of stuff, if you've never
Speaker 1: read them, go find them. They're they're fun. Sou dyl
Speaker 1: muss Any final thoughts.
Speaker 5: H not really, I guess, uh, it's a bit weird
Speaker 5: because we're recording this after we've watched Army and I
Speaker 5: watched that for the first time. But I loved the
Speaker 5: ending of this Before I had watched Army, I was like.
Speaker 6: That is fucking wild.
Speaker 5: I never would have expected that, And the fact that
Speaker 5: the third movie is just like doing that movie like
Speaker 5: that was a really interesting prospect.
Speaker 6: I like, I had seen the poster, but it.
Speaker 5: Was very small for Army of Darkness just yeah my
Speaker 5: streaming service, so I hadn't like zoomed in and seen
Speaker 5: like all this medieval imagery and stuff. So just doing
Speaker 5: that was insane for me. And I love that as
Speaker 5: an ending, even like the end of the first one.
Speaker 5: It's a pretty classic cliffhanger. But they really like to
Speaker 5: do those with these movies. Is like not necessarily just
Speaker 5: not necessarily setting up like a next movie, but just
Speaker 5: ending in.
Speaker 6: Some crazy way that you would not have expected, I guess.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, yeah, I guess. I did even talk about
Speaker 1: the ending, and it's it's tough for me because I'd
Speaker 1: watched it knowing kind of ide Okay, there's are any
Speaker 1: darkness and that happens, but I imagine what I would
Speaker 1: want to imagine or I am imagining whatever it may be.
Speaker 1: What like what it must have been like if you
Speaker 1: watched this movie for the first of note, like in
Speaker 1: the eighties, no idea army darkness is coming and Ashes
Speaker 1: ends up in like medieval times with these people praising him,
Speaker 1: and you have like the Dead eight flying Like it's
Speaker 1: such a wild ass ending. And there's so many movies
Speaker 1: that end in like crazy ways, but this is such
Speaker 1: like a out of the box like it's it's so weird.
Speaker 1: But I appreciate it because obviously it worked out. But
Speaker 1: I like that all of them kind of ending this
Speaker 1: type of cliffhangary way in a sense. So I guess
Speaker 1: I'll go I was gonna say, I was already talking.
Speaker 1: I like, I don't know what I say here. Nine
Speaker 1: point five out of ten, I'll go with that. I
Speaker 1: can't give it the full ten and I think a
Speaker 1: lot of this, and I've said this before as some advice.
Speaker 1: I just love the filmmaking behind. It's one of these
Speaker 1: films that I almost more and I actually do like
Speaker 1: it a lot, but I appreciate it more than like
Speaker 1: it just of just the stories of them. And I
Speaker 1: didn't feel that way with Army Darkness. But I just
Speaker 1: can't get the full ten. So I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: like a nine point five nine somewhere in there. I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to drop it, just like that's where I
Speaker 1: feel I can't give it the full ten. But I
Speaker 1: enjoyed every time I kind of I usually watch a
Speaker 1: trilloy together. That's where I said where there's many times
Speaker 1: where I will just go watch Evil Dead one by
Speaker 1: itself or the remake, but when this one I watch,
Speaker 1: I usually watch them all together, maybe sometimes just one
Speaker 1: and two and everything. But yeah, that's where I am.
Speaker 1: I still really really enjoy the film quite a bit.
Speaker 1: All after all these years.
Speaker 2: All right, I'm the next I Yeah, I, as I
Speaker 2: was saying earlier on, I was kind of conflicted on
Speaker 2: just like where I was feeling amongst the two. But
Speaker 2: I think now I definitely feel that I still like
Speaker 2: the first one more than this one, just because of
Speaker 2: the simplicity of it compared to this one. I don't know,
Speaker 2: just like on paper, it just sounds like the more
Speaker 2: horror centric storyline, which it very much is, because this
Speaker 2: one gets a lot more comedic, but at least for me,
Speaker 2: it doesn't bring down like the entertainment factor too much.
Speaker 2: But when I think of Evil Dead, I think of
Speaker 2: like that initial more serious horror of just these the
Speaker 2: necronomicon just possessing Ash Campbell's friends and yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: the Granny sequence like it helps me so much for
Speaker 2: this one because as I already mentioned multiple times, that's
Speaker 2: just such an iconic sequence for me in my life,
Speaker 2: very nostalgic. But overall, I still think this is a
Speaker 2: fun watch. Bruce Campbell just in his elm and he's
Speaker 2: just absolutely killing it. So for rating, I think I'll
Speaker 2: give it an eight point seventy five, not quite a nine.
Speaker 2: Seven five, yeah, very rare point seven five. I just
Speaker 2: think that there's there's certain moments that get a little
Speaker 2: bit too goofy that maybe take me out of it
Speaker 2: a little bit. Whereas I think the first one, well,
Speaker 2: in this one, there is moments of building upon anticipation,
Speaker 2: but I just think it's executed so much more or
Speaker 2: so much cleaner and better and more everlasting feeling. So yeah,
Speaker 2: from that first movie. So eight point seven five is
Speaker 2: still still really really great movie in my opinion. And yeah,
Speaker 2: wild ending, Wild ending as well. I did not remember
Speaker 2: the ending at all for this one. Yeah, so I'll
Speaker 2: leave it at that.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, this this movie again, out of all of them,
Speaker 4: this is one that I go back to quite often,
Speaker 4: and it's it's not one like I'll be finished watching
Speaker 4: I'll leave the house, like you know, I feel good
Speaker 4: about my time, Like I feel good like anything like that.
Speaker 3: Like I just I say that in the.
Speaker 1: Sense it's a native remarks to the movie. But I
Speaker 1: get what you're starting to say.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like it's just it's not something that'll leave a
Speaker 4: good feeling in you after watching it. No, No, But
Speaker 4: that being said, like if you if you're in the
Speaker 4: mood for some cheesy comedy horror like stuff like this
Speaker 4: is this is definitely a movie that can fill that
Speaker 4: void for you. But like if you just if you're
Speaker 4: putting it on during the day or something like that,
Speaker 4: like it can be a little a little heavy, So
Speaker 4: pick your time to watch it. And I think if
Speaker 4: if you pick a good time, like you will have
Speaker 4: a good time. Because this when I was younger, like
Speaker 4: it did it for me.
Speaker 3: I was curious.
Speaker 1: I watched it.
Speaker 4: I enjoyed it so many things now like when I
Speaker 4: do go back and watch it every now and again,
Speaker 4: like it definitely satisfies that certain horror craving that I'm
Speaker 4: looking to have pleased. Satisfied warship. I don't know, so
Speaker 4: I think worshiped warship. Bruce Campbell does a great job
Speaker 4: in this. My wish to, Like, I think Travis, like
Speaker 4: he said, like he should be in more things and
Speaker 4: that more of a leading role because I think there
Speaker 4: is now well yeah it.
Speaker 1: Is unfortunately not damn. But I just mean like there's
Speaker 1: that point of like, you know, he's he's he's just
Speaker 1: this guy. But he does lots of I think, like
Speaker 1: lower tier fun horror stuff he did.
Speaker 4: There was one where I watched called Alien Apocalypse and
Speaker 4: he was in that and it's literally like Plant of
Speaker 4: the Apes, but it's it's really bad.
Speaker 1: He should not be in those movies. He's better than that.
Speaker 1: I hate that. I hate that he's.
Speaker 3: There, but he should be in those bigger ones.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: I would give this probably an eight point five out
Speaker 4: of ten.
Speaker 1: I will say there was a show to a kimra
Speaker 1: what it was on USA that he was on that
Speaker 1: he was a supporting character for many years. I think
Speaker 1: it was called Vice or something, and apparently he was
Speaker 1: great in that and it was like a really good, serious,
Speaker 1: like TV role. Though when I'm for years, so he's
Speaker 1: doing fine, He's he's just wanted more. But yeah, and
Speaker 1: I agree with everybody back in the day, everyone he
Speaker 1: was Samurai was gonna cat aske him as mysterial for
Speaker 1: Spider Man four, and I wish we would have saw that,
Speaker 1: because man, sam Raimon's mysterial, that would have been that
Speaker 1: would have been tons of fun. But the rumor also
Speaker 1: was he was just like a bank robber that Spiderman
Speaker 1: beat pretty easily. But still I would have liked to
Speaker 1: see sam Raimi with the fish bowl and stuff. So well,
Speaker 1: there you go. We will be just like Ash going
Speaker 1: to Portal. We're gonna be portaling next to army darkness
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, when we're back, won't be worn yep.
Speaker 2: Peace