WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.760 --> 00:00:03.919 Ellie Lakers try to stave off elimination tonight, as do 2 00:00:04.000 --> 00:00:08.279 the Houston Rockets. The NBA playoffs roll along with two 3 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:10.839 really good games tonight after a bunch of great action 4 00:00:11.000 --> 00:00:13.960 last night. I was on television last night at ten 5 00:00:14.080 --> 00:00:18.440 thirty five on KMYU, also streaming on kutv dot com. 6 00:00:18.480 --> 00:00:20.640 We call it five Questions with Spence, even though last 7 00:00:20.719 --> 00:00:22.120 night was eight Questions with Spence. 8 00:00:22.480 --> 00:00:24.120 I needed more time to be filled. 9 00:00:24.199 --> 00:00:26.960 And Dave Fox joins US live and studio after ditching 10 00:00:27.039 --> 00:00:27.719 us yesterday. 11 00:00:27.760 --> 00:00:28.320 Hello Dave. 12 00:00:28.440 --> 00:00:31.359 Oh sorry, we had a little station sports meeting yesterday. 13 00:00:31.359 --> 00:00:33.719 But thank you for pivoting and allowing me to come 14 00:00:33.759 --> 00:00:35.759 into This is rare because normally I'm here and then 15 00:00:35.799 --> 00:00:38.399 you come there and right he's just the opposite, So 16 00:00:38.439 --> 00:00:39.799 now I can steal all your material. 17 00:00:39.920 --> 00:00:41.840 No, all good, But last night was fun. Thanks for 18 00:00:41.840 --> 00:00:44.359 having me. Of course, my guy Timmy writing the questions 19 00:00:44.399 --> 00:00:45.000 as he does. 20 00:00:44.880 --> 00:00:46.640 All the time. He is just great. 21 00:00:46.679 --> 00:00:48.880 He is the best. He is the best. All right, 22 00:00:49.679 --> 00:00:51.640 Where to start? Where to start? Where to start? 23 00:00:51.640 --> 00:00:51.960 Today? 24 00:00:52.799 --> 00:00:55.679 NBA playoffs, I've been fun, But for the third straight 25 00:00:55.759 --> 00:00:59.679 year there's no playoff basketball in Salt Lake City, Utah. 26 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:03.000 You know, I was thinking about this because they referenced 27 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:05.519 the Detroit Pistons have not won a home playoff game 28 00:01:05.560 --> 00:01:06.959 in seventeen years. 29 00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:08.799 Ultimately, we're pretty spoiled. 30 00:01:08.959 --> 00:01:14.079 Yeah, how many you know, how many spring basketball exciting 31 00:01:14.319 --> 00:01:16.159 events that we've had over the years, even though it's 32 00:01:16.159 --> 00:01:18.640 been three years. You know, it's it's important to remind 33 00:01:18.719 --> 00:01:20.640 jazz fans that markets go through this. 34 00:01:20.719 --> 00:01:22.280 We just don't go through it very often. 35 00:01:22.359 --> 00:01:24.840 Well, and if you talk about the grand history, Detroit 36 00:01:24.920 --> 00:01:26.159 has had some pretty good years too. 37 00:01:26.319 --> 00:01:27.359 That's just for a long time. 38 00:01:27.519 --> 00:01:29.760 Yeah, It's has been a really really long time. And 39 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:33.079 I mean I can go all the way back to 40 00:01:33.159 --> 00:01:35.120 ninety seven, ninety eight. How much fun was that. It 41 00:01:35.159 --> 00:01:37.159 was just phenomenal to be a part of that. But 42 00:01:37.200 --> 00:01:39.920 you're right just to be involved, to say you're a 43 00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:43.000 playoff team, to not be stuck in the lottery in 44 00:01:43.040 --> 00:01:47.560 a bad position, it means a lot. It just granted, 45 00:01:47.599 --> 00:01:49.599 a lot of teams go to the playoffs. I get it, 46 00:01:49.879 --> 00:01:52.280 but still, if you're a playoff team, you're a playoff team, 47 00:01:52.280 --> 00:01:53.959 and that says something. It's funny because I was looking 48 00:01:53.959 --> 00:01:57.200 at the NHL lotteries, is I think it's been announced 49 00:01:57.200 --> 00:02:01.239 as Monday, and the odds on Utah getting a number 50 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:05.000 packer zero. They can't happen because they're so far down 51 00:02:05.040 --> 00:02:07.439 the lottery. So that's when you're kind of stuck in purgatory. 52 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:09.599 That's not really where you want to be. So at 53 00:02:09.680 --> 00:02:13.120 least this year, Spence, the Jazz are in the best 54 00:02:13.280 --> 00:02:16.000 position they've been in in quite some time in terms 55 00:02:16.039 --> 00:02:18.719 of the hope for getting a lottery a number one pick. 56 00:02:18.800 --> 00:02:20.280 Yeah, fourteen percent chance. 57 00:02:20.759 --> 00:02:23.879 Unfortunately, speaking of Detroit and knock on Wood, last year, 58 00:02:23.919 --> 00:02:26.479 the Pistons had the worst record in Pro basketball easy, 59 00:02:26.759 --> 00:02:29.159 and they fell to five, which is the Jazz floor. 60 00:02:29.199 --> 00:02:31.879 They cannot fall past five. We have recent precedent though 61 00:02:31.879 --> 00:02:34.919 of it happening. So unfortunately that is not the play. 62 00:02:34.960 --> 00:02:38.319 Because if Cooper Flag is Jazz Man next year, a 63 00:02:38.319 --> 00:02:40.759 couple of things. First of all, then we can start 64 00:02:40.840 --> 00:02:43.599 understanding exactly the direction the Jazz are going to take, 65 00:02:43.599 --> 00:02:44.960 because people ask me all the time what are they 66 00:02:44.960 --> 00:02:47.599 gonna do, and I'm like, well, I don't know, and 67 00:02:47.919 --> 00:02:50.360 I probably will not even have an idea until after 68 00:02:50.400 --> 00:02:52.639 we know where they're drafting. But if they draft one, 69 00:02:53.159 --> 00:02:55.360 and if they get Cooper Flag, then we have more 70 00:02:55.360 --> 00:02:57.919 of an idea of what they're going to do coming up. 71 00:02:57.960 --> 00:03:00.919 And also we will no longer be in a purgatory 72 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:03.520 like NBA National. People will start paying attention to the 73 00:03:03.599 --> 00:03:06.159 Jazz again because nobody has done that at all this year. 74 00:03:06.240 --> 00:03:08.360 Well, and they get Flag and then they add Jannis 75 00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:10.520 and then you're talking about ten. 76 00:03:10.599 --> 00:03:12.360 Look at you. 77 00:03:12.759 --> 00:03:16.680 So it's on now. I have to believe that. First 78 00:03:16.680 --> 00:03:20.319 of all, Milwaukee will not trade him. The only way 79 00:03:20.319 --> 00:03:23.639 it happens is if Yannis says that's enough, Okay, he 80 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:24.719 would have to ask for it. 81 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:26.280 I read this this morning. It blew me away. 82 00:03:26.319 --> 00:03:29.520 So the past ten playoff games for Milwaukee, Jannis is 83 00:03:29.560 --> 00:03:34.280 averaging thirty two points, sixteen rebounds, and six assists, and 84 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:37.439 they're one and nine in those ten games. And it's 85 00:03:37.439 --> 00:03:39.599 their third straight year they've lost in the first round. 86 00:03:40.199 --> 00:03:43.639 So it's it's a little bit like so when Lebron 87 00:03:43.759 --> 00:03:47.360 left Cleveland the first time for Miami, they burned his jersey. 88 00:03:48.360 --> 00:03:51.879 He came back to Cleveland, won a championship, left for 89 00:03:51.960 --> 00:03:54.919 Los Angeles and they celebrated it because he got them 90 00:03:54.960 --> 00:03:58.560 their championship. Yannis won a title in Milwaukee's right, so 91 00:03:58.599 --> 00:04:00.400 he can kind of do the thing where it's like, look, 92 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:02.759 I gave you everything I had, won your title, but 93 00:04:02.800 --> 00:04:04.840 now it's time for me to move on. The question 94 00:04:05.039 --> 00:04:07.240 is how much of that will be his decision as 95 00:04:07.280 --> 00:04:09.680 far as where the landing spot is, because Milwaukee's not 96 00:04:09.719 --> 00:04:11.680 going to trade him, and I'm sorry, Giannie is not 97 00:04:11.719 --> 00:04:13.319 gonna be like, hey, they've got great snow in. 98 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:17.279 Utah, so my guess he is not a hockey guy. 99 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:20.600 Got hockey time up there. So uh that that's a 100 00:04:20.639 --> 00:04:24.279 really good point. And it's getting back to what you 101 00:04:24.319 --> 00:04:28.000 said about uh Lebron Jannest. Like you said, he has 102 00:04:28.079 --> 00:04:30.879 the title. I think that changes your mindset to a degree. 103 00:04:30.920 --> 00:04:33.639 You never stop the pursuit of getting titles, but at 104 00:04:33.759 --> 00:04:36.680 least he has one. You look over the careers have 105 00:04:36.680 --> 00:04:39.439 stocked on them alone. They were fantastic. Never got a title, 106 00:04:39.879 --> 00:04:42.560 but they wanted it. In that granted, free agency and 107 00:04:42.839 --> 00:04:45.439 demanding trades wasn't quite as prevalent as it was back then. 108 00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:49.279 But uh, it went bad quickly when and when I 109 00:04:49.319 --> 00:04:51.319 don't mean bad, but I mean once though they had 110 00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:54.319 those two runs, then it was like off off the cliff. 111 00:04:54.319 --> 00:04:57.680 Few years later, Carl's in l a and and John 112 00:04:57.759 --> 00:05:02.360 retires I don't know how uh Joannis will continue to be. 113 00:05:02.519 --> 00:05:05.519 Maybe he really loves Milwaukee. He's got his title, and 114 00:05:05.560 --> 00:05:07.399 he says, well, I'll just I'll ride this out. But 115 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:10.199 that team, that team does not and I think you'll 116 00:05:10.199 --> 00:05:13.800 agree with me here, that organization isn't even close to 117 00:05:13.839 --> 00:05:16.279 being title connectors, especially with the problems now that they 118 00:05:16.319 --> 00:05:18.160 have with Damian Loward. I think they put a lot 119 00:05:18.199 --> 00:05:21.199 into that basket. And who knows what his situation is 120 00:05:21.240 --> 00:05:23.360 going to be. That's tough injury to come back from 121 00:05:23.480 --> 00:05:25.560 at his age. So yeah, well we'll see what kind 122 00:05:25.560 --> 00:05:28.959 of patients Jannis has. But we would welcome him here 123 00:05:29.000 --> 00:05:32.120 with open arms in our wonderful community. Take him up 124 00:05:32.279 --> 00:05:35.360 do some snowboarding if he would prefer. I'm happy to 125 00:05:35.399 --> 00:05:37.720 take him up to Alta and put the boards on 126 00:05:37.800 --> 00:05:41.240 and you know, do some surfing in the summer whatever. 127 00:05:41.399 --> 00:05:43.360 NBA players are not allowed to do that, well they 128 00:05:43.360 --> 00:05:46.399 can are not allowed to do that. And yet Malone 129 00:05:46.399 --> 00:05:48.399 who got to drive around on Harley all the time, 130 00:05:48.519 --> 00:05:49.360 Well he wasn't. 131 00:05:49.199 --> 00:05:50.439 Supposed to, but he did, but he did. 132 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:52.920 You know, I was call him alone, but no, I mean, look, 133 00:05:53.360 --> 00:05:55.800 even with Dame, we saw where their ceiling is, and 134 00:05:55.839 --> 00:05:57.639 at times it looks pretty good, but they're not close 135 00:05:57.680 --> 00:06:00.839 to competing with Dames, so they're mile away without him. 136 00:06:01.240 --> 00:06:03.839 Game won't be on the floor next year until probably 137 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:05.959 the spring f at all. But he's under contract for 138 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:07.879 two more years at about one hundred and twenty million, 139 00:06:07.920 --> 00:06:11.040 a lot of money. So Milwaukee's in trouble and Phoenix 140 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:13.480 is in trouble. There will be teams that will be 141 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:16.439 moving on from star players. Kevin Durant will be traded, 142 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:19.240 Giannis will be traded. I just think the Jazz have 143 00:06:19.560 --> 00:06:22.360 probably three years too late, but they finally have accepted 144 00:06:22.360 --> 00:06:24.879 their fate and they're gonna play this long game thing. 145 00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:27.639 I don't think, like I don't know that Danny Ainge 146 00:06:27.959 --> 00:06:31.920 will ever utter the phrase big game hunting again. I 147 00:06:31.959 --> 00:06:34.240 just think they've leaned into this long term play and 148 00:06:34.240 --> 00:06:35.720 we'll see if they get Cooper and then they go 149 00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:36.160 from there. 150 00:06:36.240 --> 00:06:39.120 If I can circle back to yesterday's show, and I 151 00:06:39.199 --> 00:06:42.399 listened to your show every day, so your NBA guess not. 152 00:06:42.519 --> 00:06:46.439 Dave mcmanimum Tim McMahon, and he brought up an interesting 153 00:06:46.439 --> 00:06:49.959 point in the same subject in that no, there's no 154 00:06:50.079 --> 00:06:53.240 chance Kevin Durant's coming here but the Jazz could be 155 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:57.199 a facilitator in a deal that involves Durant somewhere. They 156 00:06:57.240 --> 00:07:02.360 already have been with Phoenix once before, right, and you 157 00:07:02.360 --> 00:07:04.079 know you kind of got into the whole, you know, 158 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:06.000 is there another year of tanking? And I think you 159 00:07:06.120 --> 00:07:10.959 both kind of agreed that if you get Cooper Flag, 160 00:07:11.319 --> 00:07:14.000 you don't necessarily have to go into a full year 161 00:07:14.040 --> 00:07:16.839 of tanking, if I if I heard that correctly. But 162 00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:22.600 the temptation to try to add debansa is great. But 163 00:07:22.720 --> 00:07:25.839 Spence one are the odds on getting the number one 164 00:07:25.879 --> 00:07:27.879 pick two years in a RUW. 165 00:07:28.319 --> 00:07:32.680 It doesn't happen much. And you know, I do, I 166 00:07:32.720 --> 00:07:33.319 do think. 167 00:07:33.120 --> 00:07:35.720 There is a chance that if Cooper Flag is here 168 00:07:35.720 --> 00:07:39.000 in Salt Lake City, the Jazz decide, and may have 169 00:07:39.040 --> 00:07:42.160 already decided that their timeline starts now, That's what I think, 170 00:07:42.199 --> 00:07:45.079 and their timelines to get to the Cooper flag. And look, 171 00:07:45.120 --> 00:07:48.720 the draft class next year, and you know, people analyze 172 00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:51.160 the draft day to day for a living in a 173 00:07:51.199 --> 00:07:53.160 way that I don't. But the draft class next year 174 00:07:53.240 --> 00:07:54.920 is thought to be every bit as good as the 175 00:07:55.000 --> 00:07:58.720 draft class this year. And so we love you, Lowry, 176 00:07:58.759 --> 00:08:01.000 but you're about to turn twenty and even a guy 177 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:03.800 like Walker Kessler's agent a little bit, which sounds hilarious 178 00:08:03.800 --> 00:08:06.399 to say, but if you get Cooper Flagg at eighteen, 179 00:08:06.439 --> 00:08:08.800 and I remind everybody every time I bring up Cooper Flag, 180 00:08:08.800 --> 00:08:11.000 he turned eighteen three and a half months ago. He 181 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:13.600 reclassified and should have been a senior in high school. 182 00:08:13.959 --> 00:08:16.480 So it's like Trevin Nell's what twenty seven like, you know, 183 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:20.279 so he is not some season college basketball player. He 184 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:22.399 should have been a senior in high school this year. 185 00:08:22.439 --> 00:08:25.279 He's a young eighteen. So there is part of me 186 00:08:25.319 --> 00:08:27.399 to believes the Jazz have already done their calculation and 187 00:08:27.399 --> 00:08:30.160 they're saying, if we get Cooper, our project starts now 188 00:08:30.199 --> 00:08:30.600 with him. 189 00:08:30.759 --> 00:08:33.600 But I don't know about dismissing Kessler yet, He's not 190 00:08:33.639 --> 00:08:34.240 that much older. 191 00:08:34.360 --> 00:08:37.039 I'm saying, I don't think anybody would be safe if 192 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:38.679 they get Cooper Flagg probably. 193 00:08:38.840 --> 00:08:41.320 And Lowry right is even more. And then you go 194 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:44.519 down the line guys like Jordan Clarkson, done, John Collins. 195 00:08:44.600 --> 00:08:46.840 You know, maybe they would have traded Jordan if they 196 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:48.519 could by now. Yeah, well, no, I don't know, may 197 00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:50.799 not be, it may be part of the facilitation of 198 00:08:50.879 --> 00:08:52.720 Kevin Durant we'll see where that all goes. 199 00:08:52.840 --> 00:08:55.120 I'll tell you what's beneficial now with both Clarks and 200 00:08:55.200 --> 00:08:57.120 Collins is now that we enter the final year of 201 00:08:57.120 --> 00:08:59.679 their contracts. So if another general manager you say, okay, 202 00:08:59.679 --> 00:09:03.240 that money does expire. Instead of trading for John Collins. 203 00:09:03.360 --> 00:09:06.000 Last year, gms are saying I don't want to trade 204 00:09:06.000 --> 00:09:08.159 for John Collins because I'm paying him twenty six million 205 00:09:08.200 --> 00:09:10.840 dollars next year. But now this year you're saying, okay, 206 00:09:10.879 --> 00:09:13.120 that comes off the books. It's expiring, so we'll make 207 00:09:13.120 --> 00:09:13.480 that deal. 208 00:09:13.559 --> 00:09:16.200 So forget about big game hunting and think more about 209 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:19.759 the we use the word again, the facilitating things that could, 210 00:09:19.799 --> 00:09:22.679 in a roundabout way benefit the Jazzy because they have 211 00:09:22.720 --> 00:09:24.720 a lot of other assets to deal with. Hey, did 212 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:27.519 you call any of Jackson darts high school football games? Several? 213 00:09:27.679 --> 00:09:30.320 So he turns out to be QB two in the 214 00:09:30.440 --> 00:09:33.000 NFL draft process, which I think is pretty interesting. 215 00:09:33.919 --> 00:09:37.159 You know, starts at USC, goes goes to miss. 216 00:09:37.320 --> 00:09:40.519 Brian Dayball, who was Josh Allen's offensive coordinator in Buffalo, 217 00:09:40.679 --> 00:09:42.639 trades back into the first round to take Jackson. 218 00:09:42.679 --> 00:09:44.200 What sort of NFL player do you think he's gonna be? 219 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:46.879 I think he's gonna be a really good one when 220 00:09:46.919 --> 00:09:49.240 I the games. I still remember his first game. I 221 00:09:49.279 --> 00:09:51.639 think we called one of his first games at Corner Canyon. 222 00:09:51.639 --> 00:09:53.559 And remember he played three years at Roy and we 223 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:55.600 actually called a few of his games there. But he 224 00:09:55.720 --> 00:09:58.039 wasn't showcase there the way he was at Corner Canyon. 225 00:09:58.120 --> 00:10:00.559 You know, Eric Kerra just turns out the quarter there. 226 00:10:00.960 --> 00:10:02.600 And the two things that caught me. One he was 227 00:10:02.679 --> 00:10:05.840 incredibly accurate with his passing. But when he took off 228 00:10:05.840 --> 00:10:07.960 and ran, I mean he ran like a running back. 229 00:10:08.279 --> 00:10:09.919 A kid that's built really well too, that. 230 00:10:10.120 --> 00:10:14.240 Big, strong kid, and just a great kid. Beyond that, 231 00:10:14.440 --> 00:10:16.879 it's just a lot of fun to watch. I love 232 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:19.919 him in the NFL, and I think you talk about 233 00:10:19.960 --> 00:10:23.679 the Giants, sorry about the Jets. You mean to bring what. 234 00:10:23.639 --> 00:10:30.159 Are you Doing's asking you about the Jets's talking across town? Uh? 235 00:10:30.919 --> 00:10:35.440 They added Skataboo, So I'm thinking four or five. And 236 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:37.080 I'm not a Jet, you know, me and my Cowboys. 237 00:10:37.320 --> 00:10:39.080 I don't like the Giants. I don't like anyone else 238 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:41.440 in the NFCS, but I think there might be a 239 00:10:41.600 --> 00:10:46.000 nice little foundation there, and that's a team that traditionally 240 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:49.480 loves those fans will eat up a running back like Scataboo, 241 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:53.240 you know, a strong kid and Dart. I just think 242 00:10:53.279 --> 00:10:54.799 four or five years from now, that's going to be 243 00:10:54.840 --> 00:10:56.720 a heck of a tandem in that in that city. 244 00:10:56.840 --> 00:10:59.879 Do you think Jackson in fact Porter get on the microphone, Oh, 245 00:11:00.559 --> 00:11:03.639 Jackson Dart NFL prospect juxtaposed to Zach Wilson. 246 00:11:04.639 --> 00:11:07.399 Good question, And it's interesting you mentioned the corner Canyon thing. 247 00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:10.000 They've now put out two first round quarterbacks in a 248 00:11:10.080 --> 00:11:12.679 time span that I'm not sure many colleges around the 249 00:11:12.720 --> 00:11:18.639 country have. Yeah, I think that Jackson is he has 250 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:21.799 a lot more of like the refined stuff that Zach had. 251 00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:25.440 Clearly a great arm, he could sling it. But Jackson 252 00:11:25.440 --> 00:11:27.840 seems to really know playbooks well. He seems to know 253 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:30.360 pre snap stuff really well, a lot of the stuff 254 00:11:30.399 --> 00:11:32.799 that I actually think Zach struggled with and with the 255 00:11:32.879 --> 00:11:35.519 reason although he was great at BYU was not a 256 00:11:35.559 --> 00:11:39.399 great prospect. Jackson seems to have a little bit more 257 00:11:40.240 --> 00:11:42.919 of that pocket presence pre snap stuff. 258 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:46.799 I think more experienced too, played for Lane Tiffin. But 259 00:11:47.120 --> 00:11:49.200 I'll circle back to what you said too about the coaching. 260 00:11:49.279 --> 00:11:51.200 That's a big part of it. So Zach goes into 261 00:11:51.240 --> 00:11:53.559 a coaching situation where you got a head coach who's 262 00:11:53.639 --> 00:11:56.159 the defensive guy. In fact, he's back with the Niners, right, 263 00:11:56.240 --> 00:11:59.080 he's the defensive coach. Again. I just think it was 264 00:11:59.120 --> 00:12:01.919 a bad situation. And again, I don't mean to fall 265 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:03.480 back on the Jets, but they're terrible. 266 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:05.559 Yes they are, and I can census. 267 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:08.039 And they brought him in and he had to play. Well, 268 00:12:08.159 --> 00:12:10.559 that's not the case with Jackson dark because they have uh, 269 00:12:11.440 --> 00:12:15.399 mister unlimited, don't play it, don't play it, Russell Wilson, 270 00:12:15.440 --> 00:12:16.159 Mister unlimited. 271 00:12:16.320 --> 00:12:17.960 Right, have you ever heard have you ever heard the 272 00:12:18.039 --> 00:12:20.840 Russell Wilson mister unlimited? You don't want to It'll ruin 273 00:12:20.879 --> 00:12:22.440 your day, don't but don't play that. 274 00:12:22.919 --> 00:12:26.120 Jameis Winston. They have both of them, so theoretically, who 275 00:12:26.200 --> 00:12:27.559 knows what they're going to do with him, But he's 276 00:12:27.559 --> 00:12:29.240 gonna have plenty of time to learn if they so 277 00:12:29.440 --> 00:12:31.720 choose to do that. And I just think it's a 278 00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:34.759 great situation for him. And may I have a hard 279 00:12:34.799 --> 00:12:36.960 time saying all this because I'm not a Giants fan 280 00:12:37.039 --> 00:12:39.480 in any way, but I'm probably going to become one. 281 00:12:39.440 --> 00:12:42.159 Just because of Jackson Dart. Help me understand what they've 282 00:12:42.200 --> 00:12:44.240 got cooking at Corner Canyon. Why have they been able 283 00:12:44.279 --> 00:12:46.080 to turn these kids out like that? Well, Eric, first 284 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:48.399 of all, has a great system. Now this isn't just 285 00:12:48.639 --> 00:12:51.240 sticking a quarterback behind the center, right. The one thing 286 00:12:51.320 --> 00:12:54.039 that people don't talk that much about. He always has 287 00:12:54.080 --> 00:12:58.360 a great line, great offensive line. Jackson powers or powers 288 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:02.519 Jackson is another great kid who's with the Raiders right now. Yeah, 289 00:13:02.799 --> 00:13:05.360 uh Fee now coming up, he's going to be a 290 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:11.080 sensational well in some respects, he's not directly, but their yeah, 291 00:13:11.159 --> 00:13:11.720 their family. 292 00:13:12.320 --> 00:13:12.399 Uh. 293 00:13:12.559 --> 00:13:15.200 He always builds a great line and he has a 294 00:13:15.320 --> 00:13:17.440 decent defense to go along with it. And you know 295 00:13:17.559 --> 00:13:19.559 how much that can mean to a quarterback if you're 296 00:13:19.600 --> 00:13:22.360 not on the field the whole time. So Eric's just 297 00:13:22.399 --> 00:13:24.320 built a machine out there. They're gonna be good. They've 298 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:26.480 got a quarterback this year. Helam and Kasuga, who's going 299 00:13:26.559 --> 00:13:28.240 to be a senior. Watch out for him. He's going 300 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:30.759 to be really he committed to a college. Uh, he's 301 00:13:30.799 --> 00:13:33.360 still out there. Cool, but he's only going into his 302 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:37.840 senior year. So heavily recruited. Uh. And it's it's funny 303 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:40.919 because what Eric has built this Corner Canyon at Corner 304 00:13:40.960 --> 00:13:43.039 Canyon has forced the other teams in that region, and 305 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:45.480 I'm talking about like Lehigh and Skyridge and Loan Peak 306 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:49.000 to up their game. And now you've got this. It's 307 00:13:49.080 --> 00:13:51.200 we always me and a lemon. Frank always called the 308 00:13:51.759 --> 00:13:53.799 sec of high school football in Utah. 309 00:13:54.200 --> 00:13:56.080 Do not say Frank Stam on this radio show. You 310 00:13:56.159 --> 00:13:58.480 and Alemma and the other you can say that adultce 311 00:13:58.840 --> 00:14:01.919 no no, and the bald weird dude. How you can 312 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:03.399 put that the bald weird dudeh thank you. 313 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:05.759 Uh. And in fact, this year, I've already got our 314 00:14:05.759 --> 00:14:07.440 schedule done. We're going to do a lot of games 315 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:09.879 out of that involved those four teams because they're just 316 00:14:10.000 --> 00:14:12.559 so good. But that's what Eric has built there and 317 00:14:12.679 --> 00:14:15.080 it's it's just going to continue. They're really good. He's 318 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:17.240 got a quarterback you probably don't even remember, Devin Brown. 319 00:14:17.320 --> 00:14:19.559 He's on Ohio State's roster right now from a couple 320 00:14:19.559 --> 00:14:20.039 of years ago. 321 00:14:20.240 --> 00:14:22.879 So good. He's got he's got it going on there. Yeah, 322 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:24.679 I mean, it's just, uh, it's impressive. 323 00:14:24.759 --> 00:14:27.399 Let me ask you this, did uh did Jackson transfer 324 00:14:27.480 --> 00:14:29.440 from Roy to Corner Canyon to play for Eric was 325 00:14:29.519 --> 00:14:30.519 likely exactly right. 326 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:33.720 He played three years at Roy, going into his senior year, 327 00:14:33.879 --> 00:14:36.279 and he had the blessing of the Roy coaches. Fred 328 00:14:36.320 --> 00:14:38.799 Fernandas was the head coach and and he knew he 329 00:14:38.960 --> 00:14:42.480 had something special, but he didn't really have the offense 330 00:14:42.600 --> 00:14:45.440 or the team to really exploit that. And he goes 331 00:14:45.480 --> 00:14:50.399 to Corner Canyon and Spence. Within weeks he's getting offers 332 00:14:50.440 --> 00:14:52.480 from all over the place, and of course he landed 333 00:14:53.039 --> 00:14:56.320 at USC and if they had not had a coaching change, actually, 334 00:14:56.360 --> 00:14:59.919 I mean, what do you expect that that's gonna have? 335 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:02.039 But when new coach comes in, he brings his quarterback 336 00:15:02.080 --> 00:15:03.440 with him. He was pretty good and he's with the 337 00:15:03.480 --> 00:15:07.799 Bears now. But he he uh, he instantly was being 338 00:15:07.840 --> 00:15:10.960 recruited everywhere. Best move he ever made. I'm not sure 339 00:15:11.039 --> 00:15:12.639 where he'd be at now if he had not made 340 00:15:12.679 --> 00:15:13.679 that move to Corner Canyon. 341 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:14.039 Was there? 342 00:15:14.120 --> 00:15:15.960 I mean, this is a silly question. 343 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:19.840 I'm sure Utah would have liked Jackson Dart to play 344 00:15:19.879 --> 00:15:21.960 for them, Like, what was there any conflict? 345 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:23.320 Did he just simply want to go to s C. 346 00:15:24.600 --> 00:15:27.039 I couldn't tell you this inner workings other than Cam 347 00:15:27.159 --> 00:15:31.200 Rising was there at the time and made it a 348 00:15:31.240 --> 00:15:33.120 little bit of a he was young that the title 349 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:35.399 kid too Well, well, he came and went in a hurry. 350 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:36.039 I mean, was there. 351 00:15:36.279 --> 00:15:37.279 He's still playing somewhere. 352 00:15:37.320 --> 00:15:39.679 I think he truly was there, not much of a need. 353 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:42.519 I think that the issue because the same issue with 354 00:15:42.600 --> 00:15:44.679 Zach Wilson if you go all the way back, remember 355 00:15:44.799 --> 00:15:47.559 Zach originally committed to Boise State and then made the 356 00:15:47.600 --> 00:15:49.720 move to BYU, which turned out great for him, but 357 00:15:49.840 --> 00:15:52.559 they end up with Isaac Wilson, and you know, we'll 358 00:15:52.600 --> 00:15:54.879 see where that goes. But I've you know, you look, 359 00:15:55.080 --> 00:15:57.559 I mean, hindsight's twenty twenty o cold look at Obviously, 360 00:15:57.639 --> 00:15:59.039 if the youths could do it over again, they would 361 00:15:59.039 --> 00:16:01.639 have loved to have Jack. He was great in Mississippi 362 00:16:01.679 --> 00:16:04.840 and that's and the rest is history. Now he's off 363 00:16:04.879 --> 00:16:06.440 to the NFL and we'll see how that goes. 364 00:16:06.679 --> 00:16:11.240 Is it any sort of an indictment or concern that 365 00:16:11.559 --> 00:16:14.679 Caleb Loner was the only ute drafted and there were 366 00:16:14.879 --> 00:16:19.080 zero BYU players drafted. Yeah, BYU teams had a really 367 00:16:19.120 --> 00:16:20.480 good season in the Big twelve. 368 00:16:20.639 --> 00:16:23.679 No NFL guys and no other ute NFL guys. That's 369 00:16:23.679 --> 00:16:25.039 what I'm saying, and that was one of my five 370 00:16:25.159 --> 00:16:27.440 questions for us yesterday because I thought the same one 371 00:16:27.480 --> 00:16:29.559 of your eight questions, sorry, one of my eight questions. 372 00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:31.759 Eight questions. Suspension just doesn't have the same rings, so 373 00:16:31.840 --> 00:16:33.960 I just hide him in there. But I thought the 374 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:36.159 exact same thing. In fact, I had to read over 375 00:16:36.240 --> 00:16:38.960 the draft and draft by school two or three times 376 00:16:39.320 --> 00:16:41.879 Saturday afternoon to make sure I was reading this correctly, 377 00:16:41.960 --> 00:16:44.720 because in a way, there's a there's a bit of 378 00:16:44.799 --> 00:16:46.799 comedy to it. But on the other side of it, 379 00:16:47.279 --> 00:16:50.080 good for Caleb, and you've mentioned some of the other 380 00:16:50.600 --> 00:16:53.360 tight ends that have gone through this. It's it's a 381 00:16:53.440 --> 00:16:57.159 great story for him. He didn't get overly used on 382 00:16:57.399 --> 00:16:59.679 Utah's offense last year, but he had a couple. He 383 00:16:59.679 --> 00:17:02.159 had the touchdown at Utah State and a few other 384 00:17:02.200 --> 00:17:04.920 big catches, and you will see what he can do 385 00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:07.920 in the NFL. I don't know what his blocking acumen is, 386 00:17:08.119 --> 00:17:11.359 but uh, for a pass catching tight end, I think 387 00:17:11.400 --> 00:17:14.119 it's great. But yeah, when you when you look back 388 00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:17.160 at the draft, and boy, the NFL draft is eternity. 389 00:17:17.240 --> 00:17:21.400 We know that. And that's the only kid that was 390 00:17:21.519 --> 00:17:24.400 drafted between BYU and Utah Jalen Royals course for Utah State. 391 00:17:24.480 --> 00:17:26.599 Good for him, goes to a great situation with the Chiefs. 392 00:17:27.039 --> 00:17:28.920 But that's the only kid out of those two schools. 393 00:17:29.039 --> 00:17:31.920 Is it's I think it's less an indictment on Caleb. 394 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:34.200 I have no issue with that, good for him, and 395 00:17:34.359 --> 00:17:37.079 more of what where are all these other, you know, 396 00:17:37.240 --> 00:17:38.640 kids that we thought were going to get drafted? But 397 00:17:38.640 --> 00:17:40.160 you brought up a great point yesterday when we were 398 00:17:40.160 --> 00:17:44.559 talking about Shadur Sanders. The media's perspective of draft projections 399 00:17:44.599 --> 00:17:48.079 in the NFL's perspective of draft projections are two completely 400 00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:49.920 different things. And we learned that, didn't we. 401 00:17:50.119 --> 00:17:50.319