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Speaker 1: Live from the Mercedes Benz Baton Rouge Studio. Here's Jacob
Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 2: Yo Yo, Welcome in No.
Speaker 3: TV one oh four five ESPN Baton Rouge. Here on
this Tuesday morning, Jake Flynn, Olandra Tate. The gang is
all back here together for game week as we continue
to get ready for LSU and Clemson coming up in
Clemson South Carolina Memorial Stadium this weekend.
Speaker 5: How we living?
Speaker 2: How are we feeling?
Speaker 5: Doing great? One day closer, one day more excited.
Speaker 6: Taylor did give me the unfortunate news that the forecast
for to Mars three degrees higher.
Speaker 5: Than it was as of yesterday. I'm sorry there, so huh.
Speaker 2: Here here, okay, right here, And if you're talking about
like the game day.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yep.
Speaker 6: When I woke up yesterday and stepped out to my car,
it was actually no humidity in the morning. Gave me
a false sense of security. Called that a scoon of
fall bo Yeah, and then it was hotter than hell yesterday,
so and it's going to be the end today. So
excited for the game though, one day closer, like I said, so,
just getting ready, man, getting ready. A lot of excitement
in the NFL, A lot of people getting fired, getting cut,
moving around.
Speaker 5: A lot of excitement.
Speaker 6: Exciting to wow, it's like the dramatic part of reality
TV shows. They're kind of exciting. I mean, you feel
bad for him. I've been there, been cut many times.
That's why I kind of gives me the permission to
talk about it.
Speaker 3: I guess worst experience when you got cut, worst experience
when I am.
Speaker 2: The one that you're like.
Speaker 3: I didn't like that very much because Green Bay never
cut you right, no, either like a free agent. Let's see,
I got cut with a little bit.
Speaker 2: Because Mama was Broncaz. I told the story last.
Speaker 5: Week, my first cut one.
Speaker 6: I mean it was awesome because I got a cutle
of Raiders. Yes, it was a little bit of a shot,
So it was a little bit like emotional, got like
a little bit like a little dust in my eye
just because like I'd never been cut before. Yeah, but
I was also excited at the opportunity to leave Oakland
because a lot of it's like it's it's the black hole,
like like a lot of times people don't people don't go,
people don't get out of there. Right, It's like where
a lot of careers go to die. Let's see, I
got cut from Buffalo, but I knew that was coming
because they told me once ej Manuel got healthy, I
was gonna, you know, be cheapped.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I was.
Speaker 6: But the one that stings the most, and I've talked
about it, is the one where I got cut from
the Jets in twenty fifteen when they had pretty they
verbally guaranteed me a spot on the team for three weeks.
Just three weeks is what you need for a vested season. Yeah.
And and my wife was nine months pregnant with our
first child, and I left her to go be on
said team because of the guarantees.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And uh, they cut me after the night before I
threw for two tutters and two hundred in the first half.
Speaker 5: Then they cut me like a bunch of losers.
Speaker 6: And guess what, Yeah, the organization has been cursed ever
since I have.
Speaker 5: You know, they have your reap.
Speaker 2: What you sow and you ended up in Green.
Speaker 5: Bay that year, no with the Saints.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, and then you just faded off into
the sunset.
Speaker 6: I got cut from New England as well. I was
pretty fired up about that.
Speaker 3: One too, a Landra Tate. Have you ever been released
cut from a team?
Speaker 7: Not that I can think.
Speaker 2: I made the varsity team.
Speaker 7: M hmm, Wait why you didn't like New New England
or what?
Speaker 6: At that At that point in my career, I wasn't ready.
I don't know if I was real ready to be
coached that hard in New England. Yeah, I mean it
was year eight. I didn't love football at the time,
like I'd lost kind of like my love for it
by that point. It was one of those things like
I didn't know I was gonna play. I didn't think
I was gonna play, and I was. We were on
a trip, me and my wife were overseas. We were
in Italy, like drinking winey pasta, and I got a call,
like day six of our vacation from an agent like, hey,
Patriots want you to work out. Tom Brady just got
suspended for deflate Gate. He's gonna be out four so,
like they need a quarterback.
Speaker 5: They got all.
Speaker 6: They got to Garoppolo, who's a rookie, and I'm like,
all right, well, like I'm I'm kind of like two
or three bottles in right now and about six days
of pastave be in my gut and my gut like
I guess. But they got to like, I'm not done,
like I'm leaving in two days. I'll be back in
two days. Like all right, that'll wait, that's fine. But anyway,
like at that point, I didn't really know if I
was gonna play, and I was what's the what's uh
Belichick's philosophy was on their documentary they have I don't know,
some slogan that they had. I just wasn't ready for it.
Patriot way, the Patriot way. I wasn't ready for the Patriotway.
Speaker 2: Understand.
Speaker 5: I wasn't.
Speaker 2: Oh, I wasn't real ready to be coached that hard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if we're gonna be real, somebody that somebody that
played for Sabing and Jimbo, I think you could have
handled it.
Speaker 5: Oh, I definitely could have handled it. Like I did
you want to just like I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 6: I didn't want it. I didn't want it bad enough,
but I did. I pop my hamstring, like I'm leading
up to. Like two weeks before training camp started, I
was training at LSU, getting warmed up because they have
a conditioning test in New England. Oh yeah, we didn't.
I never had a conditioning test anywhere else.
Speaker 2: It would like a run last year in Sand I.
Speaker 5: Think it was fifties.
Speaker 2: You had to run like twenty fifty, so we were
we were twenty fifties.
Speaker 6: And I was training for that and I pop my hamstring,
which is kind of I think you're fast enough to
do that.
Speaker 5: That's pretty tight. Okay, yeah, all right, a launder? How
was you? It was real hump.
Speaker 7: My trip was good, quick but nice, little refresh before
all season. I flew. Yeah, it's just so much quicker
and uh yeah, it was good. But I'm very excited
for week one. I feel it. It's in the air,
so I'm excited.
Speaker 2: Did y'all watch week zero at the bar?
Speaker 7: We did watch some Week zero, It wasn't at the
bar because it was a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, that's a step two. Not open yet, but
well you don't have to be open when you Yeah, but.
Speaker 7: No, we did take it in but not at the bar.
But had a good weekend yeah.
Speaker 3: It was great, awesome, And now we're here to December.
How are we doing the grass yesterday?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 5: No, tomorrow.
Speaker 8: I got it all scheduled ready to go.
Speaker 7: This weekend today working in the yard.
Speaker 5: I thought you did this past.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it wasn't. We had a company coming over on Sunday.
I had to like.
Speaker 2: We had.
Speaker 9: We did, and Victoria was like, well it was also
my side of the family. And Victoria's like, all right,
you volunteered the host who cleaned the outside.
Speaker 8: I was like, yes, ma'am, let me get right too.
Speaker 5: So went out there.
Speaker 9: It was more like blowing off the driveway like crap
like that were cutting on Wednesday.
Speaker 6: So is that you're when when y'all have to clean
up the house? Okay, that's fair, and I prefer it
that way. Inside stuff, I get distracted. There might be
something cool on the TV. And yeah, outside I can
really just lock in.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I got a pretty hard and fast rule that, like
I like to be outside and work and do yard
work and like do that stuff. I got a pretty
hard rule like I don't do it during the summer.
I ain't going outside not doing it. Sorry, it's outside,
it's gonna look like crud. Not gonna go pick up sticks,
not gonna pressure wash. I'll do that when when fall
hits though, it's gonna be looking beautiful out there.
Speaker 3: One thing we forgot to cover yesterday and do apologize.
Nichols beat Carnate Word all right, twenty to six.
Speaker 8: Cardf Word was like fourth in the country.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they were, Yeah, and they were a pretty
big dog if I'm not mistaken in this game as well.
So a big win for Nickels. Shout out to them.
O Southern didn't have the same fortune. They lost two
North Carolina Central thirty one to fourteen. Trey Holly did
have an eighty yard touchdown run, now, all right, that
was certainly a highlight in that game. So a couple
of local schools I did play in week zero that
I forgot to recap on yesterday, that's all.
Speaker 5: Hey, that's right here, just.
Speaker 2: I mean I was.
Speaker 6: Are they hydrated a little bit?
Speaker 3: Hydrated a little bit? They dabble, They dabble and hydrated.
Speaker 6: We kind of need to get the boosters and stuff
up a little bit more over there, right all right.
Speaker 2: Bo a bear, where are we at? Bruh, let's go
both man.
Speaker 7: That's a big win though, so also, yeah, that's awesome.
Real quick, y'all were here last week when Bunny Cannon
and y'alle came in. Yeah, okay, so they are doing
a podcast called Blitzen Bling but hear me out, it's
actually not very blitzy minus the blinged out football. Is
that Bunny brought in? They're awesome. Yeah, she said she
was gonna bring us out a helmet, but the first
episode dropped yesterday and they're just gonna be interviewing a
bunch of people from behind the scenes of LSU football.
They've been around the program for forty years and it's
gonna be awesome. Like they they even the first episode
was really good and it was just the two of them,
and then there's gonna be another one that drops on Thursday.
But we already have them in the can, like Eddie
Kennison came in, Michael Bonnett, Sam Nator came into, so
it's gonna be great.
Speaker 2: We got Vinner in Chad a Hoche Room nine o'clock
Curfew love Sam.
Speaker 7: Nator, So yeah, it's gonna be awesome. If y'all want
to check it out for LSU football history of people,
what are you laughing at Are.
Speaker 2: You laughing at the rebos retired?
Speaker 6: Ye, that's all. Maybe when that happened, it wasn't that
long ago. To make sure, yeah, it wasn't that long ago.
Couldn't have been.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Blake Miller said.
Speaker 3: He showed his son some highlights of us in the
car line, and his seven year old said, Dad, I
don't want to play flag football anymore.
Speaker 2: That's right, baby, that's right, yeah, dad? Why is it
so blurry?
Speaker 5: Whoa?
Speaker 3: We're just talking about the content, like what happened in it,
not the quality of its. Shout out now, I keep
playing flag it's great. Yeah, but when you lower your
head and you can truck somebody.
Speaker 5: It's better.
Speaker 6: When you get to wear red jersey practice.
Speaker 3: All right, we will take our first break up the show,
and when we come back there was some as Flynn
put it, he was excited about it.
Speaker 2: Some cuts in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Will tell you what that means for the New Orleans
Saints when we come back here on OTV.
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Speaker 1: From Players to Legends, Hester and Flynn breakdown l s
U football.
Speaker 4: Like only champions can.
Speaker 8: In a few weeks, I will get time realize.
Speaker 4: It's right before mine and I can take it. It
fits well to.
Speaker 3: Do, all right, Welcome back to gh O TV one,
O four five, ESPN, Baton Rouge, shout out to Andrew
and something about you four chat. I don't think I've
ever come on this show and they are talking about sports.
Speaker 2: Chances are you probably never will, but I will say.
Speaker 3: Segment the first segment for rous for us, it was
real sportsy.
Speaker 7: For the first second, I say, we literally talked about
Nichols and Southern.
Speaker 3: And we talked about Flynn getting released and me getting released. Yeah,
sports related, it.
Speaker 8: Was more different sports topics.
Speaker 3: Yes, it was from NFL teams zero like.
Speaker 6: I got released from the Patriots, who famously play a sport.
Speaker 9: I think FUS NFL teams were brought up in one
Sea college team.
Speaker 5: Some might tell us to show out a little bit.
Speaker 3: He talked about Tom Brady and deflating his balls and
getting suspended.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
Speaker 6: By the way, I think everybody, let's a little layer
out right.
Speaker 9: If they don't win that game forty five to seven,
nobody cares that's right.
Speaker 2: In this show is less sports than when T Bob
was here. To be honest, I.
Speaker 7: Just don't think that's true.
Speaker 5: Jim the sports sports.
Speaker 3: All right, all right, here we go, fine, here, we're
about to talk Saints, rob about to start.
Speaker 5: We are right.
Speaker 2: Really only one move that moved the needle.
Speaker 3: I think only one that was going to be something
that we discuss here. But as Tata has pointed out,
Louisiansports dot Net did a great job of kind of
keeping you up to date with all the latest and
the greatest with the New Orleans Saints, Tata, including the
roster decisions made by the Saints.
Speaker 9: Yeah, so they released cam Acres and that's, of course
the one you're saying, you know, that'll move the need alwa,
He's a veteran. He's been in a lot of big
time games. The one I'm looking at though, is actually
punter James burn Up. Now, normally that wouldn't sound like
a big deal. The Saints have now decided on their
starting punter because he was in a punter battle, So
ky Kroger apparently has won that job since they have
waved James Burnup. Then there's a couple receivers, Mouchie Dixon
got waved, Roderick Daniels, handful of d linemen got waived.
Outside of that, I mean, you know it's a couple
UDFA tight ends and stuff like that. But James burn
Up and Cam Acres those are big for me because
you needed to cut down on that running back room.
You had a lot of talent, a lot of bodies,
and now your special teams has figured out a little
bit as well.
Speaker 3: I think the camp Makers news is big because early
in the preseason, like it was Kendre Miller, then it
was Cam Akers, and then you started to see a
shift and then Clyde Edwards Lair had a good game
in the second preseason game and then he moved ahead
of camp Makers on the depth chart there.
Speaker 2: So I do think that is Look, it's good news
for Clyde.
Speaker 3: I think now nothing's guaranteed, but with it being ak,
Kendre Miller, Clyde, and then you start, okay, is Devin
Neil going.
Speaker 2: To make this team?
Speaker 3: It was a sixth round pick. Certainly nothing's guaranteed with
a sixth round pick. Jones is going to be the
Jones guy, Like he's going to make the team as
a special teamer, right ta Tammy. We all assumed like
that's gonna be his role.
Speaker 9: I would imagine him or Marcus Jarns, like Yarns has
a shot at special teams as well.
Speaker 3: Well, I say Jones because when you look at Okay,
so Ak's not playing special teams. I hadn't seen Kendre
Miller play special teams, and Clyde doesn't play special teams.
The running back position and Flynn you know this, like
it's gonna be one where typically your second and third
running back or like core special teams guys.
Speaker 6: And so if you hear that, guys, yeah, it's where
that ken Dre doesn't play. Yeah, it doesn't play anything
at all. I mean you obviously you don't want him
doing anything. But yeah, I don't know if I was
ever on a team that didn't have the second and
third running back like yeah four yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah uh Now you know you could have a returner
like when we were with Sprolls, like he was a
second running back, but he was the main return punt
returner returner. So yeah, but like me and Mike Tolbert,
like we were a core.
Speaker 6: Four outside of a quarterback, there's not many twos and
threes that aren't making the team at least a little
bit because of special teams as well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I.
Speaker 6: Guess, I guess running back, you're you're kind of a
little bit of a specialist, but you're there's there's some
position that you can help with, which so it's a
little surprising that you got you're talking about it up
three right there.
Speaker 5: I don't really have a big role, that's so.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because I mean, right now, there are a lot
of cuts being made today and a lot of decisions
being made, and you know who's going to have the
final say on a lot of these decisions is a
special teams coordinator.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 6: He's like, nope, that's the guy I need right there.
Wide receiver coach says, hey, special teams coordinator, who do
you want?
Speaker 3: I got two guys right here. Pick your guys what
you want? Which one can help you on Sundays on teams?
Speaker 6: Yep, because I got I got, I got, I got
two bubble guys right here. And same with the linebacker,
same with the safety, same with the corners, every position
group right now, there is a decision of fifty to
fifty coin flip decision being made on guys, and the
special teams coordinator is the deciding factor on a lot
of these things.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 2: How many receivers do we think the Saints keep?
Speaker 8: I think they keep five. For six, I'll say six.
Speaker 2: Okay, you think six?
Speaker 5: Six?
Speaker 2: Who's it going to be?
Speaker 8: Kevin Austin Junior's probably out?
Speaker 3: I would imagine is Cedric Wilson the other one gives
you returnability?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Wilson or Pettison? Yeah, Pettison.
Speaker 3: I don't look, I don't think you want Rashid Shaheed
back there as your returner, Like he's been injured too much.
He's dynamic at it, he's great at it, but I
don't think you want him back there.
Speaker 2: So is Pettis going to be your returner?
Speaker 3: Because I think we all agreed that Mason Tipton is
going to make this team, right.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you just traded for vele He's on the team,
didn't getting cut? Yeah? And then your top three Olave
Cooks and Shaheed.
Speaker 5: Brand Brandon didn't play that great in the preseason. But
I mean who else?
Speaker 8: I mean, you paid another option?
Speaker 3: Right, you don't go trade for a receiver and give
a fourth round pick though, if like you felt great
about where Brandon Cooks is.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he got he had a tiny route thrown in
this past week. It was a really bad route and
it was incomplete. Yeah, it was like a you know,
throw before he breaks type of route, didn't protect the ball.
Then it wasn't great, But I didn't see all his reps.
I just remember that stuck out because the ball went
to him and it was it was just a very
It was a poorly run route but not a lot
of depth.
Speaker 5: So of course you're keeping them.
Speaker 2: Well sign yeah, yeah, you sign him to a deal.
Speaker 3: But again, can we get back to the same conversation too,
Like you got to have some guys that can do
multiple things, and so if we're trying to figure out
who's going to be that last receiver on the roster,
like Cedric Wilson and Kevin Austin Junior don't have the
return ability that Dante Pettis has, and Dante Pettis can
even be a gunner on special teams. So like to
our point, that's what these conversations are, Like, Hey, we're
gonna keep four running backs, all right, We've got five
that we feel good about. Hey, Rich Bassachia special teams coordinator,
which one do you want? And he gets to the
final say, and so like when you look at the
Samet's receiver room, like that's gonna be a conversation, the
running back room, that's gonna be a conversation. The tight
end room right now because you've got you know, Falster
Morrow is going to be out for a couple more
weeks you would assume, and then the Taysom Hills situation,
you don't really know which way that's going to go.
Like the tight end room, like which one of those
players do you keep? Because actually when you go back
and you watch the tape and you grade the game,
this tight end group doesn't have a lot of names,
but they've actually played pretty well, especially the last preseason game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they have.
Speaker 6: Like I've I've been out pretty Johnson's probably been the
worst of the group, right, I've been impressed with a
tight end group. You know, they had the big catch
when when Schuck was starting in the game two.
Speaker 4: I.
Speaker 6: There was we didn't talk about the tight ends a lot,
which is a good thing at that position. Like you
especially in a game that you're on a three games
where you're not scored a touchdown in the first half.
So they didn't flash like in the end zone or anything.
Of course as tight ends, but like we didn't talk
about them a lot, so they didn't have many miss blocks,
missed assignments, they didn't anything do anything that looked inherently bad.
I thought that the tight end group actually played pretty good.
But like you said, there's a lot of decisions coming
down today, and there's going to be a final roster
that is that is announce but then there's going to
be the real final roster a couple of days after that,
after decisions starts to be made, when other teams start
making their cuts. This is when the scouts all of
their preparation and binders that they have. I mean every
scouting department and every team has a binder on every
single player college and pros.
Speaker 5: And this is when network starts to come and play.
Speaker 6: When you get guys wide receivers, running backs, defensive tackles,
especially how about offensive linemen. They are going to be
watching the waiver wire hard this week for offensive lineman
and every position as well, just to see is there
upgrades that we can make. Okay, we got this guy,
we got this number four outside linebacker, good player, but
is there an upgrade that we can make based on
our scouting of all the other players in the NFL.
Speaker 5: So there's gonna be a.
Speaker 3: Final a candidate to pick up like four or five
a lot players from that situation.
Speaker 6: They have to be active, yeah, I mean, especially with
all the injuries they sustain at the offensive line, they
have to go out and get some offensive linemen. I mean,
notably Lyle Collins.
Speaker 5: Is just released. Yeah, so I mean, I know there's
a little experience there. I think he played with Kellen Moore.
I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, yeah, he played with kell Moore in Dallas,
so you know Kellen's watched these ruiz for three games. Now. Yeah,
there's it can't be worse, no, I mean, I mean
that's not that is not trying to be funny. That
is just much in the tape put on the tape situation.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's an NFL football player who's performed very poorly.
You have other NFL football players that are getting released
as well, So at that point, it is a I'm
going to compare that tape that they had with the
team that they just got released from to your tape
on my team and see what can happen and see
which one we're gonna wave these out. And look, and
you've been victim of this too. You make the final
roster and then two or three days later you don't
make the fun on a roster. You see it every year,
there's guys, there's three, four or five guys that feel
really comfortable and they're excited. They go pop the champagne
when they've made that final cut, and a couple couple
of days later, there's some roster moves because of numbers.
Somebody gets injured, suspended, suspended.
Speaker 3: You're right, and I think the Saints will have the
whatever the highest number is. I bet the Saints are
a top that list.
Speaker 5: They have to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. They need a lot and
some key positions, even if it's just for depth.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So today is going to be a big, big day
to watch the waiver wire, watch the news coming out
of different teams and kind of the live tracker throughout
the league on what what people are going to become available,
because there's gonna be some surprise cuts everywhere. Oh yeah,
there's gonna be guys like, oh he's available, all right,
Well let's go, let's go throw a hat in the
ring for that guy. So it'll be interesting to see.
This is this is where football is super interesting when
it starts getting to cuts and resigns and free agency
and negotiating.
Speaker 2: Trades, a lot of trades.
Speaker 3: All right, we will take a break and we'll get
to the LSU Tigers as they travel to Clemson, South
Carolina to take on the other Tigers. When we come back, Daniel,
great post here. You think Ruiz forgot you were supposed
to get in their way?
Speaker 5: Hmmm?
Speaker 6: I think, uh, you see, see, like there's these other
guys across the ball. They got a different color helmet.
Now they're going to try to tackle your quarterback or
you're running back. You got to stop them. He forgot.
That's like the basics. I think that's day one of
training camp. I don't know why it has a country.
They played a Michigan.
Speaker 3: Probably not Well that was a coach speaking to Oh, okay,
all right, yeah, so you want me to kick slide
and use the technique I've learned my whole life instead
of just shuffling up here and looking the wrong way. O.
Speaker 5: Wait, what if it doesn't make any ain't doing that?
Can you do?
Speaker 7: It?
Speaker 5: Won't do it.
Speaker 6: Wait, you know you want me to block the two
undred and twenty pound guy instead of this three d
and twenty pound guy in front of me.
Speaker 5: I'll do it. Yep.
Speaker 2: I'll take these and I'll do it every time.
Speaker 5: All right, we'll take you almost block them.
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Speaker 3: All Right, The LSU Tigers, as we all know, heading
to Clemson South Carolina this weekend to take on the
other Tigers, and Brian Kelly said he expects everyone available
for the matchup, the primetime on the marquee matchup on
the road, and so that is a very good thing.
Matthew held up, who is all stitched back and ready
to go. But I mean, very few times do you
have a team that comes out of training camp fully healthy.
So this is a big deal. Like, and you've got
a lot of positions that have death, but you have
some that don't have depth. And so the fact that
you are right now fully healthy, ready to like running
back comes to mind, Like because right now JT. Lindsay
not with the team because you've you know, you've only
got what three scholarship running backs and you got Juwan
Johnson who can kind of play it a little bit.
It's kind of a wild card is going to play
some wildcat quarterback and kind of line up all over
the place. But I'm just sitting here thinking, like, what
if one of those backs would have got hurt you,
you would be incredibly thin at that position. I mean
you are not deep. You've got Caden Durham, You've got
Caleb Jackson, and you've got Barry as a true freshman.
Right now, it's true running backs on this team. And
so like if you would have gone into camp and
all of a sudden, you know, Caleb Jackson pulls a hamstring,
you would have had two scholarship running backs. And so
this is good news for LSU that they are going
to go on this road trip fully healthy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean anytime you can. I mean week one
is the healthiest your team's going to be all season.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 6: And it's not like back back in the olden days
where you after the season, you'd get a month off
before a bowl game like then that's and at that
point you'd help you were healthy again. Yeah, so to
start off with no serious injuries in training camp is
a big deal.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 6: Fran Kelly ran a training camp that was very conducive
to keeping bodies fresh and keeping bodies healthy, and it
has proven to work. Now we now we just got
to make sure that are the are they as calloused,
are they as in shape as they need to be,
and things like that, because we know that they ran
more of an NFL type training camp, which is great
because again, like we're going in a week one completely healthy. Right,
there's this fine balance that coach has to juggle of, like, hey,
I want to keep my guys healthy.
Speaker 5: Uh, we don't need to be bear Brian out here.
It's not the junction boys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I wanted to go through a little suck.
Speaker 6: But yeah, you got to go through some suck. You
got to go through that, that mental exhaustion, that mental toughness,
that mental grind. That's where you kind of like gel
as a team and become a team and whole. So
you know, we we hope because we didn't see every practice.
I know the media got to go to a lot
of things, but you didn't get to see everything. I know,
the prices we went to, we were like, wo that
was it? Like sober, they're calling it up. They're one, two,
three tigers. So you just hope that that they struck
that balance right of keeping everybody healthy. But you know what,
we're also in incredible shape. We're calloused, we're ready to hit,
and we're ready to roll. So but like health, you know,
you can't make the club in the tub, certainly as
a as a player. And can't win a lot of games,
especially big games on the road, with a lot of injuries. Yeah,
so we don't have that problem. So let's just say
we're ready to pun somebody in.
Speaker 3: So one of the things that certainly grabbed headlines from
Brian Kelly yesterday was talking about that they anticipate playing
more than just five offensive linemen. He said, you'll see
at least six or seven, could be as many as
eight offensive linemen playing for US. Now Clemson is in
kind of the same situation. You're not going to just
see five offensive linemen for Clemson. They're going to rotate
multiple It could be six or seven for them as well.
Speaker 2: So it's a little bit out of the norm.
Speaker 3: Like every other position you rotate, like offensive line typically
like obviously quarterback you don't really want to rotate, But
every other position group you'll see typically your five guys
are your five guys.
Speaker 2: But LSU is going to roll multiple players through.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, there's probably not a lot of games
where only five offensive linemen play. I don't know if
I could ever recall the game in college or NFL
where it's just file like something happens, a chin strap breaks,
a guy has to get his ankle retaped, or you
got to get this knee brace a judge, like something
happens where guys where they're out. And there's of course
there's a lot of a lot of injuries, a lot
of knicks and bruises and things like that that for
offensive linemen during a game, they got to go things happen.
Now to go in with the plan of playing eight
is different because you know now that there is Yeah,
you got your start in five, but you also got
guys that that are positions maybe not be up, may
not be up in the air, but you still want
to rotate guys in. I don't see this being a
situation of like we just want to keep fresh bodies.
That's not like a defensive line, because you want that
continuity from an offensive line. It's a lot different than
the defensive line. So I don't really know what the
strategy is here by saying they're going to play eight,
I don't know how you do that rotation because, like
you said, it's not it's not a wide receiver room.
We're not keeping likes fresh, we're not keeping bodies fresh.
Speaker 3: And it is you're going against two All American defensive
linemen as well, it's going to be the matchup that
decides the game.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it seems to me by saying that going into
a game that the offensive line isn't completely solidified at
who that final five is going to be for the
entirety of the season if they had their if they
had their pick now, I might be completely wrong on that.
They might just be looking at the stats and be like, hey,
on an average, for the last three years, we play
about seven or eight lineman a game. Just by that
many people get in the game at some point because
of those things I just discussed, Because of a guy
I hadn't sit out a drive, just randomly, that's the
average amount of offensive line in that play.
Speaker 5: I don't know, but they're all healthy. I know that.
Speaker 2: Look, I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 3: I would love to go into the game and Brian
Kelly say, hey, here's our five guys. He's gonna be
the five that we go with, and if we've got
a swing player that we want to get in there
as a six offensive lineman, can even be okay with that.
Speaker 2: But look, six, seven, eight offensive linemen.
Speaker 3: It tells me that right now you don't maybe know
who the best five are Now that could be because
there's great competition. That can be because you're looking for
somebody to step up and look, it is going to
be the story of the game. How does whoever's in
there at offensive line for LSU handle the Clemson defensive front.
Now you can flip that as well, like, don't don't
think Clemson doesn't have issues on the offensive line either. Right,
the offensive lines in this game both are a lot
of new and Clemson they've got some guys that have played,
but some are dealing with injury, some just haven't been
consistent in their career. And now you've got to revamped
LSU defensive line. Whoever wins that battle, I truly believe
is gonna win the game. Battle in the trenches, huh
I really, I mean as much talent as we have
at receiver I'm talking about in this game. I'm not
just talk about LS I'm talking about in this game.
You've got two of the best receiver rooms in the country.
You have, in my opinion, the two best quarterbacks in
the country in this game. But it's still all going
to come back to who wins the line of scrimmage,
who can protect their quarterback, Who can create those running lanes.
Clemson's moving a receiver to the running back, Like they're
starting running back is going to be a former receiver.
This is going to be his first ever game to
start a running back, and so like who wins that battle,
it's going to be the person and the team that's victorious.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I can see that. I just don't
see a either one of these teams. I know there's new,
there's new at the offensive line positions with both teams,
but it's college football.
Speaker 5: There's always new.
Speaker 6: Like, we have talented guys, we have guys that are
very capable, and I'm sure Clemson does too as well.
On the on their first eight in offensive line, I
don't see a situation where one defensive line dominated an
offensive line. I just don't see that situation. Now, which
offensive line can avoid the catastrophic play? Yeah, I missed assignment, blindside,
sat fumble, scoop and score situation. Which offensive line is
gonna make a play enough to like where we avoid
that catastrophic play, and which quarterback's gonna avoid that catastrophic play.
Then on the flip side, which defense is gonna make
that play? So I just don't see a situation where
it's gonna be clear and obvious that an offensive line
is dominating the game or being dominated in the game.
I think it's gonna look good. I think I think
each team's gonna make their plays. I think this is
a very intriguing, amazing matchup for Week one because I
think it's two very similar teams. I just think LSU's
got a little few more pieces.
Speaker 3: How much do you think Clemson is going to have
design quarterback runs for k Clubnen because it has been
something that he has done in his career ten ten
Because now some of it might be like a.
Speaker 6: Pre snap reed or post snap read, like a pool
situation or an RPO that turns into a scramble something
like that. But they're gonna run quarterback counter, They're gonna
run quarterback power, they're gonna run draw.
Speaker 3: They're gonna do I say, at least double digit called
quarterback runs the option. I was watching tape last night
and I was watching the pit game. He's pitt had
pretty good defense, I got an All American linebacker he's
back this year as well.
Speaker 2: And Kay Klubnick hit a big draw, like fifty yards toughter.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I got well on the quarterback report
I did of him. I think he if you don't
count the sacks, he had nearly seven hundred yards rushing
last year. Yeah, so he ran a lot. Now, a
lot of it was against Appalastian State. Yeah, they had
about seven seventy five touchdowns against him. I think, so
he's a little stat padding.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 3: Look, I mean LSU did struggle last year against running quarterbacks.
They struggle when you had designed quarterback run. And so
it's you know, going to have to be the point
of emphasis I think in this game plan. And look,
you've got a couple of guys, certainly at the linebacker
position that you feel good about in their individual one
on one matchup with really any quarterback in the country.
Speaker 2: But like, how are you going to adjust? What are
you going to expect?
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that Kay Clebnick is Jaylen Millroe as
far as athletic ability, but Flynn just said it. You
take away the sack yards he ran for like seven
hundred yards a year ago. He's got dual threat ability.
Speaker 6: A true true dual threat ability, good straight line speak,
can move around in the pocket, extremely accurate passer, but
makes mistakes reading coverages every now and then, so you
have to take advantage of those opportunities. You cannot drop interceptions.
You have to take Yeah, I think you'll you will
have the opportunity to take a ball the other way,
maybe not for a touchdown, but you'll have an opportunity
to have an interception or two this game.
Speaker 5: You have to make those opportunities.
Speaker 6: There was an old like we had this old adage
in Green Bay when we were playing like every time
our defense dropped an interception, they scored a touchdown. The
other team scored a touchdown. Like, you have to take
advantage of the opportunities.
Speaker 5: And we've said it.
Speaker 6: Just to stop cade club Nick, he's gonna get his
right he's gonna make his yards, he's gonna he's gonna
make a good throw, he's gonna complete some third downs,
he's gonna score a touchdown or two, whatever it is.
He's going to make some runs. But to stop him,
consistently stop him throughout the entirety of the game, we
have to have great safety play. I know we're gonna
have good linebacker play.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 6: I think our interior defensive lineman, I know they're well coached.
I know They're going to be disciplined. It's our safety play.
And I know we got our new guys and we
a lot of positivity coming out of training camp with
that play. But they have to play discipline. They got
to play downhill and they got to take advantage because
kay Kublic struggles reading safeties in coverage. So if they
can take advantage, yeah, get them, get them fooled a
little bit. Intercept the saame route, intercept, the dig over
the middle, whatever. He struggles reading the leverage, the depth
of safeties and what their what their body language is showing,
and ultra important in coming downhill and stopping him from
scrambling and from these called quarterback runs. So safety play
is what I'm watching the Saturday.
Speaker 2: I know we got to take a break but also.
Speaker 3: Aggressive safety play because I remember one thing on your
breakdown you talked about safeties being in a position to
make the play.
Speaker 2: They just wouldn't go make it.
Speaker 3: They would sit there and allow the receiver to catch
it then try to tackle him instead of being aggressive
and trying to go.
Speaker 5: Make a play. So you got let it be aggressive
and you win.
Speaker 2: Got you win and got some veteran safeties out of
the portal to go make play.
Speaker 6: I'll tell you there's three four or five touchdowns that
k had last year throwing the ball that should have
been interceptions by safeties. They just didn't make the play.
So it goes down a sixty yard seventy yard touchdown
by Kate Club. Yes, great quarterback. Awesome, he's got flaws.
So we have to take advantage. And the person to
take advantage would be those two safeties. Well let's go.
Speaker 5: What about the star, Oh yeah, for sure the star.
Let's get two or three.
Speaker 6: Let's just get three stars. Yeah, no linebackers, right, three stars.
I like two stars myself, but a big two star guy.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back in OTV one O four five ESPN Baton
Rouge Elandre Tata. We kind of took over that last segment,
so I want to make sure I throw it back
your way. I think in the Trenches is going to
be the storyline of the game. I know Matt has
kind of harped on the safety play for LSU, kind of.
Speaker 2: Being one of his main themes of the game. What
about for y'all, Where are y'all going to be eye
hustling in the matchup?
Speaker 9: Kind of kind of related to the trenches. I'm going
the running game in general like this. This is something
that I think has been pretty overlooked by a lot
of Adam Randall's going to be the starting running back
for Clemson. He has four career college carries because he's
been a wide receiver for his first three years. They
are decimated with injury. They got him two freshmen behind him.
That's what they got right now. Like Caid club Nick's
ability in the running game, that's the big thing for
me because LSU sucked and stopping running quarterbacks last year.
Brian kellyed his press conference yesterday said Caid Clubnick is
our central focus in the Clemson running game because they
don't have any running backs. So like that, that's what
I'm watching. I think LSU could have the advantage with
Caden Durham, but also how are they stopping club Nick?
Speaker 7: So I was gonna go there too, so I'll go different.
And last season, I feel like one of our biggest
issues was the big plays and we could never find
like that big play, the explosive play. And you know,
Chris Hilton coming back, that's going to be a big, going,
a big addition to the team because he was out
basically all last season and Joe Sloan always talks about
how he's a very a player. So I think that
can we because I feel like that was our biggest
issue and why we couldn't get over the hump in
some of these games is we were missing a lot
of those big explosive plays. So hopefully with Chris Hilton,
Cayden Durham and even Harlan Barry, I'm excited to see him.
So that's what I'm going to be looking out for too.
Speaker 2: That's the big playability for LSU.
Speaker 3: It's a good one because last year the fact that
Garrett Nessmyer threw for over four thousand yards and they
were missing that all year long, and then when they
got it and it started to hit, it completely changed
the dynamic and it went up even another level. Well,
now you have not only do you have Chris Hilton healthy,
but you have other players that have that ability as well. Like,
that's what I like about this receiver room is it's
got depth, but everybody's different as well, Like you can
have a receiver room it's got a lot of really
good players. We talked about the Saints, they had three
of the same guy. It felt like, well, this one
has certainly different bodies with different kind of skill sets.
Speaker 6: And it plays comes to everything comes out. That's why
it's such a great team sport. It comes down to
what Taylor said too, like you have to be able
to run the ball to create explosive opportunities. Like I
would look at if you broke down stats, most explosive
pass plays come off play action, come off safety is
coming up and getting those one on one matchups of corners.
If you're straight dropping back with three four wide every time,
there's not like opportunities for huge explosive plays. They happen,
but more so in the play action.
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