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Speaker 1: Hi, This is Christina and Carmen and this is a

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Spooky Tells, a podcast for all things at Spooky True

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Crime Hunts, Polis Smiths Legends in Latin America. And today

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is not a normal episode because well, I don't know. Oh,

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I think we're a little behind because we did recently

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have a vacation together. Yes we did, and it wasn't

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a vacation vacation like we did things, but we also

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had like events that way right right right, Yeah, The

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point being it took time away from time to research,

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time to write notes, time to record, and so we

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are behind. Yes, So we have a little gift for

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you today. I a while back recorded an episode with

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Aiden from Susto that was for Patreon only originally, and

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we yapped about the movie Weapons and it was a

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lot of fun. I almost was like, let's start a

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movie podcast. And you know what, I think I said

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it in the episode. You'll hear me say that, but RDC,

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I didn't. I didn't because I don't need to start

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another part. I don't have time for another pod. I

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don't know, I don't. But what we do occasionally do

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over on Patreon is yap about movies recap them, rehash,

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discuss it's so fun. And we just did one for Patreon.

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We watched the Mexican horror movie Kilt. You know, it

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was a time, very fun time was had. Yes, and

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we have plans for other movies. We're gonna do an

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episode about Frankenstein with MJ. I'm gonna watch that time recording.

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I'm gonna watch it tonight. Sorry, and before we start

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this actual episode that you'll be hearing. Have you heard

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that you have to watch Frankenstein with your Mexican eyes?

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You have to mexicanly watch it to fully enjoy it.

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I was there because I honestly think I watch everything

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Mexican le. I do everything mexicanly sometimes Salve Doorian Lee, yes, yeah,

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next to Salvey Dorian Lye exactly. And I was feeling

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the vibes. Okay, the Catholicism. I spotted it immediately. I

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am so excited. That reminds me another I think, I

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don't know when, but I want to do a series

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of episodes on all the not all the Saints, but

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like the spooky of Saints, or like Catholic legends in Mexico,

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because there's so many of them. Yeah, and that's honestly

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about we all love horror so much because that is

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the original spookiness, sirvitualness, that gothic look. It is embedded

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in Catholicism. Yes, yes, so that's gonna come up for

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the actual podcast. And then yeah, over on Patren, we're

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gonna be talking about movies a ton. So enjoy this

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episode as like a little bonus thing. And if you

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like what you hear, there's more of that over on Patreon.

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Patreon members, I have to make and send stickers, and

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there's a couple of people that I have to send

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keychains to because they just joined the highest tier. You're welcome, yes, welcome, welcome,

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And I will do that this week, I promise, well

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the next week because this is gonna come on Friday.

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I'm not doing it on the weekend, right right right, right,

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right right right right. So yeah, other than that, enjoy

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and you'll catch a normal episode next week. Bye bye, Hi.

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This is Christina and Aiden and this is a Patroon episode.

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Speaker 2: Your other half, yeah, she's gone.

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Speaker 1: And also she hasn't seen the movie, so I was like,

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I know who saw it?

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Speaker 2: Again, I'm like, listen if I'm not at work, home

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or working at Swistol, I'm at the movies.

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Speaker 1: Probably I love this. I love this same now that

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my husband and I are in the same place then

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and like a twenty minute bus ride from the really

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nice movie theater, and so I'll just be like, all right,

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I'll be back and then I come back. And that's

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when how I saw weapons. He dropped me off and

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then I rode the bus back because we don't have childcare.

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But I'm like, this is nice. Like I love enjoying

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a movie BYuT myself, just sitting there with my popcorn.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the last time I went to a

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movie by myself was it was A Terror Tuesday here

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at Almo draft House. And we live really close to

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the theater that we go to, but we do have

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to drive there. Like I could walk it, but it

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would be really intense because it's really super hilly. Yeah. Oh,

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it's like this really steep hill that I'm like, I'm

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not gonna do that. But the last time I went alone,

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A Terror Tuesday and I had seen it before, but

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it had been years, and so I was like, yeah,

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by myself. I was so scared to sleep that night.

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Speaker 1: Oh I really, I have been meaning to watch it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's very creepy. It's kind of like mockumentary slash

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Speaker 1: I love a mockumentary.

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scare me with the movie. And so yeah, I saw

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that one and I forgot how creepy it was. So

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Speaker 1: No, no, yeah, no. Another. My husband is so annoying

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about horror movies. He's so logical, too logical. He brew

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in The Walking Dead for me for years and then

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Speaker 2: Keep watching it.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, he's just too logical, and so I hate

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going to horror movies with him. So I'd really rather

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Speaker 2: But that's all like, that's all movies are, is like

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any movie plot, it's gonna go against logic. That's how

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you always hear his ass during Lord of the Rings,

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and I'm like, bitch, you're not gonna say anything about.

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Speaker 2: Lord of the Rings. Really no, literally, just don't put

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the ring on. It's that simple and it won't mess

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with you. Easy, done, done. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, weapons, that's what we're here to yap about.

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The's s knopsis and okay, let me just read this,

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and then I have to say, like, okay, okay. When

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when all but one child from the same class miss

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seriously vanished on the same night at exactly the same time,

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a community is left questioning who or what is behind

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their disappearance, and I feel like that tells you nothing

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but everything at the same.

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Speaker 2: Time, which I loved that about this, Like the rollout

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for this movie, I feel like a lot of the

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advertising and the trailers for it, it didn't give too

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much away, if anything, because what I thought I was

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going to walk into and what I ended up watching

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were very different. And I loved that because it's so

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common now that the trailer is you watch it and

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you're like, well, like.

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Speaker 1: It gives everything away? Yes, yeah, And.

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or whatever that they're like, we need to let people

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know what they're going to experience that they can buy

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into it. But I don't know. I like the mystery.

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reviews before watching a movie because I don't I don't

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want any expectation put on it. I just want to

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go in like unaware of what's going to happen. And

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this movie.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it was intentional because once we start

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like seeing or once I started reading interviews because I

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think you might be the same as me. But after

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can about it, director interviews, actor interviews, people talking about it.

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like all we saw from the trailer was like footage

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that appeared to be reen camera footage with kids like

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running anime style.

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Speaker 2: Yeah run, yeah, oh my god, and that's it, Like

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that's all I Like.

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Speaker 1: I went in knowing nothing except really the name of

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the movie, and I was like, kids are gonna run

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anime style. That's all I knew. And I I it

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blew my. I mean, I had no expectations. So I

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loved it. I loved it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it seemed even like I think it's very obviously like,

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oh this is this is a paranormal like supernatural kind

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of thing, but I also felt like it could have

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very well like based on just that trailer, along with

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the kids sneaking out, I was thinking this could also

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you know, yes, And so that's I liked that it

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kind of walked that edge during their during the trailer.

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Speaker 1: You know what was surprising to me, I saw people

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a lot of people say that they thought it was

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going to be about aliens, and I was like, oh,

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I never thought that, but I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I didn't think that either, but I mean

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it was I could have I think it could have

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gone in many different directions.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I did write down a little trivia

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here as of a few days ago. Sorry, I can't

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read big numbers, so type out, but let me send

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it to you in the chat.

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Speaker 2: Put in the chat. I want to I want to

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take a whalk at it. I want to see.

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Speaker 1: Okay, here we can try and say at the same time,

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I'm just kidding. Where's the little chat? I never all here,

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we go at the bottomy.

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Speaker 2: Wait, not that this one. Okay, this is gonna be fine.

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I hope I can read it. I can't. Okay, Oh

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one hundred nineteen million, four hundred four thousand, four hundred

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ninety eight girl mathematician. But do not ask me to

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leave a tip, because all I do is I signed

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the receipt and I give it to Jeff and I say, here,

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figure it out. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I'm the worst because if it doesn't say like ten percent,

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twenty percent, then I'm guessing. And I always guess five.

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I guess I have. I have no shame. I will

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dot com, dot net, whatever it is, and I'll go,

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what is twenty percent of this? And it tells me,

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you know what, Actually, my other calculator, Jeff, is there,

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and so I literally I'll just sign it and hand

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Speaker 1: Yes, my husband is also my calculator. So because yeah,

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I don't know, I have. Me and Carman have figured

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where you flip numbers. You can't read a map. I'll

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flip it. I will flip the map. I sailed land

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navigation so many times I got lost.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what that is. So it wasn't

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the army.

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Speaker 1: We had to navigate with the fucking map and a compass.

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Speaker 2: I have no sense of direction. I would I would

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I can't read numbers. So that

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number that Aiden just said, one hundred and nineteen million,

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four hundred four thousand, Oh my god, four.

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Speaker 2: Hundred and eighty eight y math?

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Speaker 1: Wow, I would pass algebra when oh my god, dumb. Okay,

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that's what it made. Nationally, I wrote this down.

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Speaker 2: Wrong.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's what it has made in the US since

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it opened as of like a few days ago, I

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from August twenty six and then eighty eight million. Then

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this has to be there's six zeros. That's million always

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this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Wow do you do you do you have what the

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I was going to write that down.

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It has surpassed by far surpassed its budget because we

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, it has surpassed that.

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it's just doing numbers, and it's it's going to keep

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doing numbers. Like what is even coming out this weekend?

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in the top five.

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Speaker 2: Wow. I literally So I went to get my hair

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cut yesterday and my my hairstylist, who is also my friend,

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is also a really big horror movie Lover High. Christopher,

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you seen this? Have you seen this? Have you seen this?

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talk about it, right, And so he brought up Weapons

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and I told him, I said, you need to go.

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I truly I think it is the horror movie of

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the year. I think so me. It's right up there

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with Substance. With the Substance, I think those two are

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like those are my top two this year, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I still need to see Substance.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen it.

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it in the movie theater, watching it at home after

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it is very hard for me because I keep binging

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the same shows again and again. When I have some

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time and I'm finally like I'm finally again. I think

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I've I told Carmen this a while ago, but like

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I finally feel like a person again, Like I'm like

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out of the trenches of motherhood. Both my children are

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like older now and I can like I feel like

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I can do things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Plus again, my spots and I were in the same

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place now because he for like the past six months.

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He was in Seattle and I was in Vancouver. But

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we're finding the same place. So now I can finally

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go and yeah, go watch a movie about myself. But

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what if you do that for the longest time and

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then at home, I'm just like dead at the end

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of the night, and I'm just gonna put on like

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fucking the office or Parks and rec or Brooklyn nine nine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, something that doesn't need a lot of attention, or like, yeah, okay,

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well now that you have your your spouse in the

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same place with you and your kids are a little

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bit older, put the substance on the list. I am.

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Speaker 1: I am.

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Speaker 2: You know what? Make it? Make it content that always

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gets me to do stuff. You know what? This is content.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have to come back to talk about it

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with me.

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Speaker 2: I gladly will do that.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I wish I had so much time

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for a movie rewatch recap like podcasts like I love

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it and I'm like, man, I wish I.

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Speaker 2: Had like like I love them, oh my god, and

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the way that they do that, like I like, I

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love listening to their show. For some reason, you all

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do not know what a already. We've both been on it,

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so yeah, yeah, and they've been on both of our

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shows too, Like I love them. Yes, there's the best,

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They're the best. Really.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, I was talking about the numbers. It's doing numbers.

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Ratings okay, almost unprecedented for a horror movie. Historically, they

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have terrible ratings, even though for horror movie fans they

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might be good. For everyone else, it's like sixty percent

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but ninety four percent on Rotten Tomatoes. Wow, that's that's

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that's insane for horror.

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Speaker 2: Awesome. That's so awesome, and it makes sense. There's there's

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so many horror movies, but like, yeah, you're right, it's

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like historically they are like underappreciated for whatever reason. I

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think people like put their noses up at horror movies. Yeah,

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and again not to be the substance core and to

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keep bringing it up. But I feel like that was

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a really big turning point for horror movies. Is like

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I feel like people were kind of changing their minds

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about it, and so that's kind of like allowed weapons

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to I don't think it needed the substance for that,

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but I think it's kind of like allowed it to

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be more appreciated. I agree, like, whoa, this is like

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they're like getting it. Now.

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Speaker 1: When did the somethings come out?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I said this year by I think

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it was twenty twenty four. I feel yeah it was

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twenty twenty four. Okay, okay, there you go. The weapons

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gets twenty Weapons gets twenty twenty five, gets twenty four.

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Speaker 1: I feel like substance though, and then followed like by

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Sinners and then weapons.

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Speaker 2: Like God, yes, Sinner as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it has been like it has been such a

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good time for horror movie and that they've been all

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these all three of these have had like top of

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the run on the like the month they're run on

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movie theaters has been like selling out movie theaters consistently,

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like they have done I don't know, wonders for the

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genre and for like not independent because obviously these are

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big names behind them, but like what don't we try

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to say that's not part of a franchise, like a

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single creative movie, that's not part of oh, part of

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an ip That's what I was thinking, Yes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it doesn't have like a universe, you know,

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like the Conjuring, right, it has all these other films

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to like stand up with Yeah, no, I take it

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back what I said earlier, Weapons and Sinners movies of

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this year since twenty four? Yeah, how could I forget Sinners?

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That one so so good? Okay, Okay, we'll focus on

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this movie for now.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I already yeah, like for two or three

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hours about Sinners with Carmen.

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Speaker 2: It was. It was great.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So speaking of let's see, they're oh seven point

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eight out of ten on IMDb, which for IMDb that

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might as well be a ten out of ten because

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like IMDb's the probably one of the harshest when it

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comes to like rings.

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Speaker 2: Really again, I'm so like removed from looking at the ratings.

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I'm hearing these numbers and I'm like, wow, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Looking at ratings for no because it doesn't like it

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doesn't change how I feel about something. But I just

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love seeing like the number for some reason. I don't know,

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even books, and I'm like, I like the book. Then

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I look at it and it was like a two

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out of five, and I'm.

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Speaker 2: Like, what, excuse me?

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Speaker 1: Do I have a bad taste?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think so I love it. So yeah,

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that was Those are like both amazing readings. Also, I

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read this later. There was a bidding war for.

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Speaker 2: The movie.

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Speaker 1: You would get it? Yes, and who a bunch of

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like big names. But Jordan Peele was in that group

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and he lost the bidding war and apparently he fired

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someone from his team first for having it.

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Speaker 2: Apparently like he I mean, he knew right. He has

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also been making amazing thumbs. I'm so excited for him.

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What's his studio is not? Is it? Monkey Pom?

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Speaker 1: Is that? I don't know?

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Speaker 2: Let me see.

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Speaker 1: It has a name, and I feel like monkeys in it,

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but maybe not.

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Speaker 2: The first thing that comes out is Jordan Peel weapons.

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That's so funny. Oh that wow, it's like a new

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Oh it is yeah, monkey Pop Productions. Yeah wow? How

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do im in twenty twelve? Your brain?

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Speaker 1: I can't read numbers, but I can't remember these nonsense theme.

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Wow, yeah I did. I heard about that that

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he lost the bidding war for it and he was

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so like disappointed that he fired I heard like a

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whole group of people. You're probably just one person.

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Speaker 1: I don't know one of the two for sure.

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Speaker 2: We're making no, no occurred. He killed someone. Somebody killed somebody,

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you guys, Yeah, no, Yeah, there was a fire ring

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for sure.

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Speaker 1: For sure.

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Speaker 2: I mean after watching the movie, I get it. I

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would have done it too. I would have done it

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to and then after it came out, I would have

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fired another person like you see, I was right in

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the movie theater. As soon as the credits roll, You're

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fucking fired. Guess what vacation forever for you? Yes? Yes, exactly.

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Speaker 1: And this is director Zach Craiger's second movie following Barbarian.

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Did you watch Barbarian?

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Speaker 2: I did. I loved Barbarian and I loved it. I

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loved all the memes that came out of it. Yes.

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My favorite was when they were is it what's the

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show with what's her? Uh? Natalie Nunn? The show that

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she has it? Baddies made? Yeah, someone made a clip

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where they were like the Mama talking and Barbarians and

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she was like boo boo boo boop because they were

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talking about fighting. Okay, I'm gonna send it to you.

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You have to like edit it in here. Why was

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I drinking water? Drink boo? That was mama hands down?

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Oh wow, yes, that's why. Which Also that movie also

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like took me for a loop. I didn't like I

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was not expecting anything that happened, and so he's so

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good at that at like, yes, pulling the rug out

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from under you in a really good way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because man, that was unexpected, like what I thought

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was going to happen. No, not at all.

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Speaker 2: No, it was like, hey, it's worse, yes, and it

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got worse and worse. Yes, from worse and worser. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: One scene that straight up traumatized me in that movie,

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the Justin Long breastfeeding.

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Speaker 2: Monster Jesus moment of silence. It really was truly, Like

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I remember watching it. We watched it at home, and

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it was like like this, Like I was truly you know,

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it's it's hard to make podcasters speechless, right, but yeah, ye,

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but yeah, truly I was like, uh, like gagging literally,

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oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Justin Long just went through it in that movie.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 1: Side note, this is another comedian turn horror movie director

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who puts in elements of comedy.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it was so good. I think the funniest part

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for me, like I was starting to laugh out loud,

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was when what's his name? Is it his name? The

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actor's name is Austin. He plays the character the addict.

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I hate to say that oh, yes, this is terrible.

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But I know him as Ron from The Walking Dead,

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and so I kept calling him wrong. Okay, but I

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know who.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about. Again, I'm obsessed with The Walking Dead,

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like everyone knows this. Yeah, but yeah he was wrong.

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When I saw him, I was like, okay, Ron, I

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didn't know you could do this, but I'm here for it.

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But yeah, when he kept is it he kept getting

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punched then getting back up and like punching.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he kept throwing him. Yeah, you would throw him

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and like it was like like it was like that timing,

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And that's how you really know it was a comedian

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doing this, because that like that comedic timing is it's

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a real thing and it is not something something that

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everybody understands. And so either I don't know if it

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was the actor who also has this really great comedic

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timing the way that they choreographed it, or like the

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I don't know. I'm sure it was a team effort,

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but that timing was so funny because it just like

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it kept happening and then it was like, Okay, this

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is ridiculous, Like there's no way he's going to do

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it again. And he did it again and it was

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so good.

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Speaker 1: It never got old. It was perfect. It didn't feel

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forced like some other like you can tell when it's

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being forced. This was so natural even though it just

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kept happening. It was so funny that and there was

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another Oh the very end with Gladys running. You think

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she's gonna stop at some point, and.

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Speaker 2: She keeps running, and that's that's a lot of like

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my favorite comedy is like you you're taking it to

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a point where it's uncomfortable, and then you pushed past

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that and you keep going and then it's funny all

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over again. Oh my god, it's so so funny, I

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think even in the parts that were also scary or

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like creepy. So the kids running like that, that's kind

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00:24:14,599 --> 00:24:16,759
of silly because it does bring that image to mine,

473
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,920
but it worked. It was still creepy. The other part

474
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,319
that really creeps me out, but seeing people do it

475
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:27,720
online is hilarious is when the Alex's mom walks out

476
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,960
of the house when the teacher I forgot her name,

477
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,799
when she's waiting in the car outside and his mom

478
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:38,039
is walking she's like, yes, It's like, it's so funny

479
00:24:38,039 --> 00:24:39,319
to see people do it online.

480
00:24:39,319 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: But out of the context of the movie is funny.

481
00:24:41,839 --> 00:24:43,720
Put it in the movie horror fine.

482
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, like the physicality itself, but.

483
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yes, yes, so yeah. I don't know what

484
00:24:49,799 --> 00:24:53,119
it is. I feel like, yeah, comedians turning into horror

485
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,400
movie directors. It's never going to be a miss because

486
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,599
we have Jordan Peel who's in the same situation and

487
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,319
his movie's the same thing where it's like a little

488
00:25:02,319 --> 00:25:06,559
comedy inserted into something horrible, and it is funny. It

489
00:25:06,599 --> 00:25:09,039
doesn't miss. So more of this, please.

490
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,319
Speaker 2: I think what it is also is people will say

491
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:18,039
that comedian comedians are like they're bit like they're fucked

492
00:25:18,079 --> 00:25:20,680
up people, like they're messed up, they've been through stuff,

493
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,680
and so that's kind of like they get the humor

494
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,799
of life and they're able to make things funny because

495
00:25:24,799 --> 00:25:27,880
they've been through things. And then on the other side,

496
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,799
people will also say that horror is a good vehicle

497
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,519
for a lot of different things, but especially like really

498
00:25:34,559 --> 00:25:37,839
tragic things, so like grief, loss, And so I think

499
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,880
that combination of like a comedian, who typically is a

500
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,880
person who like gets life in a really dark sense,

501
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,799
a twisted sense, mixing that with horror, which also like

502
00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:52,240
brings those dark things forward. Yeah, it's like a really

503
00:25:52,319 --> 00:25:53,519
good combination.

504
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:58,079
Speaker 1: Yes, a formula for success sure, truly and for me

505
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:04,599
to be seated yes, yes. And the director he has

506
00:26:04,599 --> 00:26:06,920
said in interviews that he basically wrote the movie and

507
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,759
when sitting, which is crazy, and then there's not a

508
00:26:09,759 --> 00:26:12,599
lot of changes from his original script to what made

509
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:13,200
it in the movie.

510
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 2: Wow. God, imagine just being like.

511
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: That good, right, I can't I wish, I can only wish.

512
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I'm excited. That makes me really excited to

513
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,519
see what he's going to come up with next, because

514
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:35,480
Barbarian and weapons they are completely different things, like seemingly

515
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,359
not even in the same universe. They might be. They

516
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,359
might find a way to connect them later, who knows,

517
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,920
but you wouldn't be able to tell. So yeah, I'm like,

518
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,640
I'm like, what is what is he going to do next? Like,

519
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:46,920
I'm excited for that next thing.

520
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 1: I'm very curious about his next project because it is

521
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,240
Resident Evil and that is part of an idea that's

522
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,319
not its own like story. But I mean I feel

523
00:26:56,319 --> 00:26:58,319
like if he has signed onto it, it has to

524
00:26:58,359 --> 00:26:58,720
be good.

525
00:26:59,319 --> 00:27:02,519
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it could be. I think it

526
00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:04,680
could be really good because if he's able to do

527
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,839
these two things like on his own, of his own imagination,

528
00:27:10,079 --> 00:27:12,480
and then now he's given like you said, this ip

529
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,359
and this whole like world, like all of this lore,

530
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,799
Like it's like they're really good building blocks, Like what

531
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,359
is he going to make with them? That's true. I

532
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,759
totally forgot about that. I'm also the hopeful fingers crossed

533
00:27:25,799 --> 00:27:30,799
for a Gladys prequel. Oh yeah, I would love that.

534
00:27:30,839 --> 00:27:33,960
I would love to see more from her and about

535
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,519
her and her she was a queen, yeah, truly truly,

536
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,000
Like so she was a little evil, Like.

537
00:27:39,039 --> 00:27:41,799
Speaker 1: I don't even necessarily want an answer to who she is.

538
00:27:41,839 --> 00:27:43,319
I don't care about that. I just want her to

539
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:44,039
be doing something.

540
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,799
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, I was saying also when I was

541
00:27:47,799 --> 00:27:52,160
talking to my friend that I feel like I keep

542
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,200
like comparing to other things, but uh, it kind of

543
00:27:55,319 --> 00:27:59,880
gave me that sense of mystery. But like just enough

544
00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:03,599
that And I'm only bringing it up because I literally

545
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,359
was talking about it yesterday. So when you texted me,

546
00:28:07,559 --> 00:28:11,119
I was like, oh, yeah, I'm ready. Was that? H

547
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:13,599
Did you see Bring Her Back?

548
00:28:14,319 --> 00:28:16,039
Speaker 1: Oh my god, No, that's been on my list to

549
00:28:16,079 --> 00:28:18,440
watch and it's finally streaming somewhere. I forgot where I

550
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:19,839
saw it, and I was like, oh, I got to

551
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:20,279
watch it.

552
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 2: I think you should watch. For sure. I enjoyed it.

553
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,960
I'm going to preface it with I enjoyed it.

554
00:28:26,279 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 1: But what Sammy, I love you go over there, just

555
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:41,279
not to say that you're like annoying. No, it's it's Sammy.

556
00:28:41,359 --> 00:28:42,960
And he does this to me every time.

557
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,279
Speaker 2: Oh my god, He's like, put me on the pod girl.

558
00:28:46,839 --> 00:28:47,759
Oh Matteo.

559
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: My almost seven year old is like all the time,

560
00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:52,599
like I want a podcast, and I'm like, well, you

561
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,200
write your script and I'll edit it for you.

562
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 2: But I'm not ready, right, That's so cute, was it

563
00:29:00,039 --> 00:29:01,680
saying oh, yeah, bring her back? So Like, I did

564
00:29:01,759 --> 00:29:06,440
enjoy it, but I feel like there were too many

565
00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:10,480
for me. There were too many unanswered things that I

566
00:29:10,519 --> 00:29:13,640
felt like with weapons like it did a very good

567
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,359
job of leaving mysteries, especially in terms of Gladys and

568
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,240
her story, but still giving us enough so that we

569
00:29:21,359 --> 00:29:23,519
do want more, that we want those answers, and it's

570
00:29:23,519 --> 00:29:27,359
not just like, well like what was this even about? Really? Ye,

571
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,839
it explained I think enough about.

572
00:29:29,559 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: Her, yes, like there was no plot hole, but we

573
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,759
yet have questions like who wishy And that's I think

574
00:29:35,799 --> 00:29:40,960
that the like true, like art here where he Yeah,

575
00:29:41,079 --> 00:29:44,960
he left us questioning, wanting more, but there was nothing

576
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,119
necessary to the movie that was unanswered, which happens in

577
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,119
a lot of other movies.

578
00:29:51,559 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, I think I swear I just heard Margaret.

579
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: I heard something, Yes.

580
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 2: She might, Okay, I hope right.

581
00:30:05,079 --> 00:30:08,279
Speaker 1: Oh another thing. He also wrote it first again like

582
00:30:08,319 --> 00:30:11,519
I said in one sitting, but in full grief, because

583
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,559
I don't know if you know, but he was part

584
00:30:13,599 --> 00:30:17,079
of a group of three called the Whitest Kids, you know,

585
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,319
and I freage it's a terrible but I don't remember

586
00:30:20,319 --> 00:30:24,960
which of the three passed away suddenly. And it was

587
00:30:25,079 --> 00:30:28,160
from that like that happening, he just sat down and

588
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,799
wrote the movie what.

589
00:30:30,839 --> 00:30:33,359
Speaker 2: Yes, I had no idea that one of them had

590
00:30:33,359 --> 00:30:34,039
passed away.

591
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,039
Speaker 1: Yes, you know what, let me check because I don't

592
00:30:37,039 --> 00:30:38,920
want to be wrong on who it was.

593
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 2: Let's see the one Trevor Moore.

594
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: Yes, there we go.

595
00:30:43,839 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you passed away in twenty twenty one.

596
00:30:46,559 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. And that's he. After that happened, he sat

597
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:49,759
down and wrote.

598
00:30:49,519 --> 00:30:52,519
Speaker 2: The movie, Wow, I had no idea.

599
00:30:53,759 --> 00:30:56,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And they were like how you.

600
00:30:56,039 --> 00:31:00,599
Speaker 2: Find out right? Like real life besties. Right. Oh yeah, yeah,

601
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,240
I mean yeah, I can only imagine, Oh my god. Yeah,

602
00:31:03,359 --> 00:31:06,880
what did I say again that grief yet touched it

603
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,119
to horror and with the comedian.

604
00:31:08,839 --> 00:31:12,359
Speaker 1: Wow, yes, and like and so many different instances in

605
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,119
your like book, like when you talked about Monstlio or

606
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,480
in other things, and I don't remember what other things

607
00:31:18,519 --> 00:31:22,000
we talked about, but like grief and horror. It's they're

608
00:31:22,079 --> 00:31:24,920
like Hannah and Hanna. Yeah, it really is the best

609
00:31:25,319 --> 00:31:30,680
like vehicle to express so much some of the darkest

610
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,720
things that other other I don't know things can't like

611
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,240
touch in the same way. So, yeah, it makes so

612
00:31:38,279 --> 00:31:41,200
much sense to me that he wrote down and wrote

613
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,400
all of this after that happened. And in the movie,

614
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,240
the movie is like about grief. Yeah, so I'm like, wow,

615
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,440
that makes sense. We can see that message in the movie,

616
00:31:51,599 --> 00:32:00,680
especially in Archer played by Josh Brolin Brolin Berlin Archer. No, No,

617
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:05,400
the dad oh yes, yeah, the dad of the one

618
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,200
who first is like attacking Justine but then teams up

619
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,359
with her and then they go to the house him

620
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,480
who was supposed to be Pedro Pascal.

621
00:32:14,359 --> 00:32:18,759
Speaker 2: Yeah in the original casting. Yeah, well they they recasted

622
00:32:18,839 --> 00:32:23,519
everybody except for the guy from The Walking Dad. Yes, yes,

623
00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:26,720
and she's also going to be in Resident Evil allegedly.

624
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm so I'm so excited. I'm even

625
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,920
more excited for this. He maybe he'll be redeemed in

626
00:32:34,119 --> 00:32:36,279
a zombie universe because his ending.

627
00:32:36,039 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 2: And The Walking Dead was, can I tell you something?

628
00:32:39,279 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: You haven't seen it?

629
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,559
Speaker 2: I know I've never seen The Walking Dead.

630
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, every time, like.

631
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,279
Speaker 2: The first episode or not for the first season, or

632
00:32:46,279 --> 00:32:49,000
like half of the first season, and I just I

633
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,799
don't know, I like it. It never stuck for me.

634
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, every time someone interrupts me when I'm when I'm

635
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,240
talking about The Walking Dead and like, can I tell

636
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,920
you something? I expect nothing else. That's why I was like,

637
00:32:58,960 --> 00:32:59,839
you haven't seen it?

638
00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: The call ins No, no, no.

639
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: The first three four seasons five really amazing, especially the

640
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:15,039
first season after that, and then I just kind of

641
00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:18,799
and then back up a little bit, and then the

642
00:33:19,119 --> 00:33:22,319
last season with what they had it was not bad.

643
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,599
But yeah, nothing touches those first three seasons.

644
00:33:25,799 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe I'll I'll watch the first three seasons and

645
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:28,720
then I'll call it.

646
00:33:29,319 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Ron in The Walking Dead, Yeah, if you

647
00:33:35,119 --> 00:33:37,880
see it, You'll see his h his feet.

648
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

649
00:33:40,839 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: Okay, and let's talk about the characters in the movie.

650
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,279
I'm just gonna go through who was what?

651
00:33:46,599 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 2: So.

652
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:50,319
Speaker 1: The movie stars Josh Berlin as Archer Graph, a construction

653
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,960
contractor and the father of Matthew, one of the missing children.

654
00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:58,759
Then we have Julia Garner as Justine Gandhi, the teacher.

655
00:34:00,279 --> 00:34:03,359
And I hadn't seen her in much before this.

656
00:34:04,279 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. I know she was in Ozarks or oh Ozark,

657
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,599
which I've never seen. Same, but it's on my list

658
00:34:11,599 --> 00:34:13,559
to watch because I know it's supposed to be really good.

659
00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:17,559
I've heard yeah, and I feel like but like and

660
00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:21,000
she's the silver Surfer in the New Fantastic Four movie.

661
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't realize that was right.

662
00:34:24,119 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 2: Wow, the range on this woman, like she from that

663
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,679
her very famous line that's everywhere. If you want to

664
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,760
stop me, here are you? I have to fucking gm

665
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:39,599
which is that's how I feel every morning when I

666
00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:43,559
wake up. That's my mantra to get going. And then that, Yeah,

667
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,360
but to go from that to the I herald your

668
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,920
beginning or his beginning, whatever it is, I'm like, man,

669
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,079
good for her, and to this like she was sorry.

670
00:34:54,079 --> 00:34:57,280
I feel like we glazed over mister Brolin, who was amazing.

671
00:34:57,559 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 1: He was, he was, he.

672
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,079
Speaker 2: Was, he was really good again, like you said, you

673
00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:07,559
mentioned yeah section of grief and how he like on

674
00:35:07,639 --> 00:35:11,119
the construction site. Apparently I can't remember if this was

675
00:35:11,199 --> 00:35:13,719
his call as like as an actor or who made

676
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,920
the decision, but originally I heard that. So when he's

677
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,320
at the construction sites and like things keep messing up,

678
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,559
like things are wrong the color of the paint and

679
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,000
things weren't installed that it was supposed to be that

680
00:35:27,159 --> 00:35:30,159
other people were messing up and he was like like

681
00:35:30,199 --> 00:35:33,920
snapping at them and exploding, but that they changed it

682
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,239
to he was the one that was fucking up. Basically,

683
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,920
that is a really really good, I think choice. I

684
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:45,760
think it's the more accurate choice because and a lot

685
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,639
of depictions and a lot of people that I've seen

686
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,039
go through grief, that's kind of what happens is it's

687
00:35:50,039 --> 00:35:53,800
almost like you're you have no other choice but to

688
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,840
just kind of like keep going through the motions. Some

689
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,679
people feel like and when they do that, like of

690
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,679
course you're going so preoccupied. Yeah, yeah, that's that kind

691
00:36:02,679 --> 00:36:06,280
of grief. It changes your brain and so yeah, you're

692
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,880
gonna mess up, like you're gonna overlook things and it's

693
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,880
at no fault to that person. So I thought that

694
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,400
was a really great choice for them to change that

695
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,679
from that like outward explosion and like hurting other people

696
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:23,119
to like, no, I am so hurt because of my loss. Wow,

697
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:27,679
these things are like slipping and I'm the boss right, Yes, yeah,

698
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,119
he again everyone had knockout performances. But yeah, I wanted

699
00:36:31,159 --> 00:36:32,840
to bring that part up because.

700
00:36:32,639 --> 00:36:35,159
Speaker 1: I think that's fascinating. I didn't know that. And you

701
00:36:35,199 --> 00:36:37,039
know what, another thing on that is that how many

702
00:36:37,079 --> 00:36:40,360
times in media have we seen the angry Man, which

703
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,840
is it is a response that happens, that's why it exists.

704
00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:48,039
But to have instead what happened in the movie mm hmm,

705
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,159
that's insane. Wow, I didn't know that. Good to know,

706
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,440
and we know that Bear Bascott would have been amazing

707
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,920
in this world too, But honestly, he Josh Brolin was

708
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,920
I think the right the right choice in the end.

709
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,679
Speaker 2: I think so too. I think so too. Yeah he was.

710
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,119
Speaker 1: And then where where we just Slipgarner Justine Candy, Yeah,

711
00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:12,199
I'm fascinating.

712
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 2: Performance, so good her. Like I saw this clip of

713
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,679
how they did when she's being chased by the principal

714
00:37:20,159 --> 00:37:22,239
and it's in the gas station and that shot where

715
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,320
it's chasing her down the aisle and they turn, so

716
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,239
I saw like the behind the scenes where it's the

717
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,039
camera operator is on skates and skating behind her. Yeah,

718
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:33,320
and like they're showing the rig and they it's like

719
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,760
a really quick just like a clip, and they show

720
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,239
at the end where she gets to the door and

721
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,559
she's like panicked, and they cut and you can see

722
00:37:43,639 --> 00:37:47,000
she like drops like she's acting and she's like she's like, okay,

723
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,159
we're cut, and she like drops whatever she was doing.

724
00:37:49,199 --> 00:37:52,320
And I was like, god, she's so good that, like

725
00:37:52,559 --> 00:37:55,360
sheer panic, like she just acted her ass.

726
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 1: Off in this and like so so good that scene

727
00:37:59,199 --> 00:38:03,599
that was crazy. The oh my god, the moment god,

728
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,480
well okay, we're gonna get to that too.

729
00:38:05,599 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 2: But the moment.

730
00:38:08,559 --> 00:38:11,559
Speaker 1: Well, no, no, we'll get to that in a bit. Yes, yes, okay, characters,

731
00:38:11,559 --> 00:38:16,360
we're on the characters, okay. Al Din, Aaron Aaron Reich,

732
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,079
Paul Morgan. The corrupt police officer just seems ex boyfriend,

733
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,639
So just a police officer, yeah, just a normal regular.

734
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:27,679
Speaker 2: Oops.

735
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:33,519
Speaker 1: No, but yes, absolutely not at all surprised when he

736
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:38,800
punched Austin Abrams at all, Like I expected nothing else,

737
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,920
but what first with a baby, It's just a needle.

738
00:38:43,039 --> 00:38:48,199
I'm just kidding. It's later, Okay, fine.

739
00:38:48,199 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 2: I know I will that that first moment or that

740
00:38:53,679 --> 00:38:56,599
like that that segment of the movie, which also I

741
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,280
loved that, like fragmented storytelling where like all differ.

742
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: O, yes, a non linear storytelling.

743
00:39:04,199 --> 00:39:07,559
Speaker 2: I love it in books and I love it in movies. Same. So,

744
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,320
but that part where where that happens and he punches

745
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,280
him and then it like comes back to it where

746
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,000
he's like cleaning him up after. It was very much

747
00:39:16,199 --> 00:39:19,840
like the like any like I'm sure you and uh

748
00:39:20,119 --> 00:39:22,679
and Carmen have been through it where like this the

749
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:28,760
one sibling hurts the other and they're like, yeah, don't here,

750
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:33,239
you want you want something? You want a candy? Yeah no,

751
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,840
it's like don't don't, don't, don't tal mom, don't tell mom.

752
00:39:36,039 --> 00:39:39,000
It was very very It was kind of funny too,

753
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,559
from like obviously in real life, I'm sure this happens

754
00:39:42,599 --> 00:39:45,360
and it's not funny, but in the movie, like it

755
00:39:45,519 --> 00:39:47,760
was just kind of so silly. It was.

756
00:39:48,119 --> 00:39:55,119
Speaker 1: It was speaking of Austin Abrams. He was James, a

757
00:39:55,199 --> 00:40:00,760
homeless drug addict and a thief. I we already talked

758
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,920
about it, but I wrote in my notes side note,

759
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,000
but as many of you know, I'm obsessed with it

760
00:40:05,079 --> 00:40:07,920
walking down and immediately I was like, okay, ron son

761
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:13,320
of Jesse who almost gets with Rick. Yes, I see you.

762
00:40:14,039 --> 00:40:17,199
Speaker 2: That's what I wrote there. So good. Yeah, no, he yeah,

763
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,719
obviously great. And again that like he did the stunts,

764
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,639
so in that scene that was so funny. Yeah that

765
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:28,440
apparently I'm saying I keep forgetting his first hand. But

766
00:40:28,519 --> 00:40:31,840
Brolin and I saw an interview where he's talking about

767
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,320
it and he was saying he was like, yeah, he

768
00:40:33,679 --> 00:40:35,360
was a trooper and like he wanted to do it

769
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,719
and I throw him and he'd get back up and like,

770
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,840
oh my god him. Yeah.

771
00:40:42,599 --> 00:40:45,679
Speaker 1: Also he's just like so skinny, and Josh Brolin is

772
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,719
so strong, so I could just already picture this.

773
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:53,199
Speaker 2: He's just like throwing him around kind of like you. Yes,

774
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:54,880
I love that. Yeah.

775
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: Carrie Christopher was Alex Lily, the only child from Justine

776
00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:05,000
class who did not disappear. And my heart for Alex. Also,

777
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,119
I is this his first role?

778
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think he's like a theater kid.

779
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:16,159
Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense because wow, he killed it. Let

780
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,559
me look up his Carrie. I later saw a TikTok

781
00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:21,679
of him talking about something and I was like, oh

782
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,800
my god, yes, like he's just so cute.

783
00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 2: Look I him. Oh my god, he's a horrible.

784
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,199
Speaker 1: No, no, he's got let me see, he's got some

785
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,960
stuff and almost Christmas story mister mom like small things.

786
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, great like.

787
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: Days of our lives.

788
00:41:46,039 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, my mom probably knows who he is.

789
00:41:50,639 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, so's he's been in some things.

790
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 2: Yes, wow, yeah, no, he it's it's you never you

791
00:41:57,119 --> 00:42:01,199
never know with kids, you know, like how well they're

792
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,320
gonna do, like because they're they're young. You know, it's

793
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,840
like how much experience can they really have? But I mean,

794
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,079
I feel like all the kids were great, no matter

795
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,000
the size of their parts. But this kid who played

796
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,679
Alex was it was so good and yeah, just like

797
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,239
it broke my heart. At the end of the movie.

798
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,679
I was like, oh my god, this kid's gonna be

799
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:29,559
fucked up forever, like, oh yeah, there's no fixing that. No.

800
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: He had like such a normal, like you know, set

801
00:42:33,039 --> 00:42:35,800
of parents. Things were normal he's getting picked on a

802
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,360
little bit at school, but then Gladys Gladys comes into

803
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,360
his life and just fucking destroys it.

804
00:42:42,639 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 2: Jesus, the Gladys, not the thea.

805
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:50,039
Speaker 1: That you want for sure, and then just like seeing

806
00:42:50,159 --> 00:42:54,360
him go from like already a quiet kid to even quieter,

807
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,239
and then just you know, obviously worried about his parents

808
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,679
having to eat each other because he doesn't follow his

809
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,320
aunt's rules, and then like feeding them, and then this

810
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,280
like dependency, like child parent child dependency flips. He's now

811
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,159
feeding his like I don't know, fucking zombie like parents

812
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,920
or they're just like mindless, so sad.

813
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: He's parentified, Yeah, which I want to say. I saw

814
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:27,159
an interview with Zach saying that he that that was

815
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:31,760
kind of like because there were like all these theories

816
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:36,159
about what it meant, like what the movie meant, And

817
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,639
I saw an interview where he was saying that it

818
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:45,679
was more like introspective than it was about anybody else

819
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,280
or the world, that it was more about like his

820
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,599
own childhood with alcoholic parents and like having to take

821
00:43:51,679 --> 00:43:54,360
care of them. And you can see that in the movie, yes,

822
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,239
and yeah, like you could feel it, like you could

823
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,280
see it. And then I saw that interview or that

824
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,360
clip of that after watching the movie, and I was like,

825
00:44:02,639 --> 00:44:05,400
oh my god, it broke my heart even more. I

826
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,719
was like, that is oh really really really really really heavy.

827
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, which then kind of ties into what you were

828
00:44:13,199 --> 00:44:17,320
seeing earlier about comedians, and they're like, having been through

829
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,639
so much that then they're like the best to have

830
00:44:21,519 --> 00:44:24,119
to be the ones putting this into action via a

831
00:44:24,199 --> 00:44:28,480
movie or whatever. So wow, wow, that makes so much sense.

832
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,440
Beneedic Dwong as Marcus Miller, the school principal who is

833
00:44:33,599 --> 00:44:37,199
sympathetic to just seeing really her ally and all this,

834
00:44:37,679 --> 00:44:39,760
and I loved him.

835
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 2: I loved him. Yeah, he apparently I don't think.

836
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: He had that many horror movie shows or movies in

837
00:44:48,559 --> 00:44:51,079
his past, and so he was like traumatized with the

838
00:44:51,119 --> 00:44:53,440
blood scene, with the chasing just see.

839
00:44:53,559 --> 00:44:55,679
Speaker 2: He was like, I don't want to do this again.

840
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,280
He was like, I was so scary. I was so

841
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:04,039
bloody for a baby. I mean, it was brilliant. If

842
00:45:04,079 --> 00:45:05,800
you don't have a lot of experience with it and

843
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,679
like this is your big foray into it, I can

844
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,360
imagine that it's overwhelming. Oh yes, that was a really

845
00:45:12,519 --> 00:45:14,440
intense scene. Oh my god.

846
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,599
Speaker 1: Okay, since we're talking about him right now. He when

847
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:23,559
and Gladys goes to his house and he's like, he

848
00:45:23,639 --> 00:45:26,719
doesn't want to let her in, but his very kind

849
00:45:27,679 --> 00:45:31,039
partner is like, no, let her in, help her, she's thirsty.

850
00:45:31,159 --> 00:45:34,480
I'm like, what a mistake. You know what sinners and

851
00:45:34,679 --> 00:45:37,440
weapons is, just not to let people into your house.

852
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 2: Truly, no ever, I was like, you, stupid little gay man.

853
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,920
Just because she's got a fierce ass bob and some

854
00:45:45,079 --> 00:45:48,159
brighte ass what is it the county Bob, that county

855
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,559
bob her and that bob what's the name bob? So

856
00:45:51,639 --> 00:45:54,360
you're calling her bob? I was like, no, do not

857
00:45:54,599 --> 00:45:57,400
let it. Also, I had half a mind to show

858
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:02,440
up in full and Gladys caught played tonight, but by

859
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,119
the time I thought of it to order the wig,

860
00:46:04,199 --> 00:46:05,920
I was like, I don't have time and I'm on

861
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,360
a very tight budget right now. I was like, I

862
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,920
cannot spend money to overnight a wig.

863
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but just imagin just both show up dress as

864
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:20,480
her damn would have been hilarious based opportunity, But yeah,

865
00:46:20,519 --> 00:46:22,280
I was like, sir, do not let.

866
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:26,639
Speaker 2: This random woman into your home? Like, who looks creepy.

867
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,760
She doesn't look like normal. Sit back down, eat your

868
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,960
seven hot dogs and four and watch your show. What

869
00:46:35,039 --> 00:46:41,599
are you doing? Oh my god? No, I told Jeff.

870
00:46:41,599 --> 00:46:43,960
I was like, no, there's no, there's no fucking way

871
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,760
that whatever happened at our house? Are you kidding me?

872
00:46:47,039 --> 00:46:47,079
Speaker 1: No?

873
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: No.

874
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,679
Speaker 1: Immediately, first I wouldn't have answered the door. No, It's

875
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,559
like phone calls. I don't answer them unless I know

876
00:46:53,679 --> 00:46:56,280
who's calleen. I've had a scheduled call M.

877
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 2: And also it's work related. No, no, not here, baby,

878
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:02,159
I'm off the lock.

879
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, immediately I would have looked through like, ooh, not home.

880
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 2: Nobody the Jehovah's witness, don't answer hide. No. Literally the

881
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,480
way my family it is not even so many people

882
00:47:13,559 --> 00:47:15,559
I know. Really, we literally get on the floor.

883
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: Okay, let me tell you really quick. So one time,

884
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,880
because my mom did not believe in to rain on

885
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,519
the ac even though we had one, and so we

886
00:47:23,599 --> 00:47:26,119
would have like in Modestoka's hot as fuck. It's like

887
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,480
the Central Valley, we're you know, mountains here, we're down

888
00:47:29,519 --> 00:47:33,119
here and there's no water near us nothing. So it

889
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,920
was like one hundred degree summers, and so we'd have

890
00:47:36,039 --> 00:47:38,679
the door open, fans going and there you could see

891
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,920
them walking up in their little fucking suits or whatever,

892
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,960
their little tracks, their little outfits, and then you know,

893
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,559
one of us would be like, oh my god, they're coming.

894
00:47:45,679 --> 00:47:49,719
The Jehovah Winses are coming. Yes, and then it'd be like,

895
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,840
oh my god, hide, but like they could see us

896
00:47:52,119 --> 00:47:54,079
saying all this as they were, and then we were

897
00:47:54,159 --> 00:47:56,679
like hide and then we like got up, ran behind

898
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,400
the couch, got on the floor. But they saw all

899
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,599
of this happen and they're ringing the doorbell and we're like,

900
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:02,559
no one's here.

901
00:48:03,599 --> 00:48:07,639
Speaker 2: No. Literally, same we would have the like the windows open,

902
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,000
so it was the screen and with like the and

903
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,920
they're like the sheer like lace curtains that don't really

904
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,199
hide anything. So they would get up to the like

905
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,239
the front of the house and they couldn't see inside,

906
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:23,119
and we're swearing that we're.

907
00:48:23,039 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: Not there, and that is what Marcus should have done,

908
00:48:27,599 --> 00:48:27,880
but no.

909
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and then his husband, but it just lay

910
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,480
down the floor with their hot dogs.

911
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: And yeah, eat and watch the documentary, but hide. The

912
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,880
whole scene of her going, like the tension is building

913
00:48:41,119 --> 00:48:43,079
and I'm like I'm already like watching the movie, like

914
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,079
you know, you already know that it's a horror movie.

915
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,639
And I wasn't thinking when a thing's going to happen.

916
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,239
I was seated enjoying everything already. And the moment she

917
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,960
brings out the the stick, snaps it and then he starts,

918
00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:58,719
what is it?

919
00:48:58,920 --> 00:48:59,079
Speaker 2: Is it?

920
00:48:59,159 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 1: The he starts being his partner?

921
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,119
Speaker 2: Right? Is that what happened?

922
00:49:03,159 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: First, my jaw hit the floor.

923
00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:08,599
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god.

924
00:49:08,679 --> 00:49:10,679
Speaker 1: And then like everyone silently turned to each other, and

925
00:49:10,679 --> 00:49:11,840
I'm like, is everyone seen this?

926
00:49:12,079 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 2: Like yeah, like is this really happening right now? It

927
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:19,400
was so hard to Again, very few movies that elicit

928
00:49:19,519 --> 00:49:21,639
these kinds of reactions for me, but I was literally

929
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:26,039
like the seats in Alamo, thank god they're so comfortable,

930
00:49:26,039 --> 00:49:29,079
because I literally had my knees to my chest. So

931
00:49:29,199 --> 00:49:32,280
it was like this, like I barely watching and I

932
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,679
was like looking at Jeff, Oh my god.

933
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: It was so so hard to watch visceral visceral feeling.

934
00:49:39,079 --> 00:49:43,119
I was like the whole time and my pop porm

935
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:43,800
was gone.

936
00:49:46,159 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: Ing it in the bag.

937
00:49:48,079 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: It was crazy. And that was like the first real

938
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,519
violent moment in the movie. Yeah, and it just kind

939
00:49:53,559 --> 00:49:56,320
of it fucking hit you in the face like true.

940
00:49:56,519 --> 00:50:04,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt, oh my god, that's terrible. Oh yeah,

941
00:50:06,119 --> 00:50:09,360
you know it was like you said. The way that

942
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,880
the tension was built in that scene I think was

943
00:50:12,039 --> 00:50:16,760
so effective because you knew, oh my god, some ship

944
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,880
is about to go. You didn't know what Yeah, oh

945
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:20,400
my god.

946
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:23,280
Speaker 1: I was not expecting that.

947
00:50:23,679 --> 00:50:25,559
Speaker 2: She asked for the bowl and I was like, oh,

948
00:50:25,639 --> 00:50:28,559
this bitch is a witch. Yeah, and then she pulled

949
00:50:28,559 --> 00:50:32,880
out the twig and I was like, yes, we gotta go.

950
00:50:33,559 --> 00:50:37,079
Speaker 1: Yes, yes immediately, And I think we know from just

951
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:42,760
our background in both podcasts that like we know, water, nature,

952
00:50:43,039 --> 00:50:47,079
trees very witchy. So immediately I'm like, something is bad

953
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,559
is going to happen. Did I think she was going

954
00:50:49,599 --> 00:50:51,199
to like start drinking the water like a dog?

955
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 2: Yes. As soon as she said bowl, I was like, no,

956
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,039
she's doing something. Yes. I was like she's going to

957
00:50:59,159 --> 00:51:00,599
drink in And I was like, no, that doesn't make

958
00:51:00,639 --> 00:51:09,000
sense imagines that's what I thought, right, No, No.

959
00:51:10,039 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 1: And speaking of Gladys, uh, Amy Madigan was Gladys and

960
00:51:14,559 --> 00:51:18,239
I had not seen her in anything, and I was like, okay, Amy,

961
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,960
I see I see you, Now, I see you.

962
00:51:30,559 --> 00:51:36,679
Speaker 2: I was like, where is this going? Yes, yes, standing ovation.

963
00:51:36,519 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: For her, like I can't even I can't, like, oh

964
00:51:42,039 --> 00:51:45,760
my god, no, what the what a performance?

965
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 2: What a performance? Break out star? Truly like yes, yes.

966
00:51:53,679 --> 00:51:59,760
Speaker 1: And then randomly just in long note him, I.

967
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,639
Speaker 2: Know, literally he showed up and I felt like everybody

968
00:52:02,679 --> 00:52:03,400
in the theater was like.

969
00:52:04,159 --> 00:52:08,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, because he's not listed in the cast. He no,

970
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,960
he's just there, and of course he is because barbarian,

971
00:52:12,119 --> 00:52:17,199
you know, scream king. Really truly, yeah, he's the father

972
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:21,320
of Bailey, one of the missing children, and so yeah,

973
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:22,559
that's pretty much all the people.

974
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 2: That was also a really good comedy moment. Is that

975
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:32,440
at first the the Alex's or now Alex Josh, Yeah,

976
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:37,519
Matthew Matthews, Matthew's dad, Yeah, Josh Brolin. He asked the

977
00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:41,079
mother first, can I see the ring footage? And she's

978
00:52:41,119 --> 00:52:42,840
like no, I'm not comfortable with that. He's like okay,

979
00:52:43,559 --> 00:52:48,199
and then cut to him sitting with just He's showing

980
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:52,599
him the footage and she's like me, I guess. Truly,

981
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,800
I was like that that was a good also really

982
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,800
good comedy moment. Now yeah, he'd be like okay, are

983
00:52:59,039 --> 00:53:02,880
But honestly, though, when they were on the screen together,

984
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,480
I was like, what if they just gave a little

985
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:06,320
smooch really quick?

986
00:53:06,519 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: Oh, I would like to see that right right?

987
00:53:08,679 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 2: And they were boys. I love it, I would love it.

988
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,599
Speaker 1: I mentioned this earlier, but I apparently people wanted the

989
00:53:16,639 --> 00:53:19,239
movie thinking it had to do with aliens, And at

990
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,280
first I was like, that's so why, But then I

991
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:22,880
was you know what, it makes sense a bunch of

992
00:53:23,039 --> 00:53:26,199
kids go missing and you don't know, nothing's explained. I

993
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,320
guess you could think alien abduction, but my mind went

994
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,360
to true crime, like you mentioned, I thought it was

995
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,039
going to be like some crazy deranged serial killer. I know,

996
00:53:34,159 --> 00:53:35,880
we get to range Grandma insteady.

997
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean in a sense, it was kind

998
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,639
of all those things, like these these kids were in

999
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,760
a sense abducted, like they were taken from their homes

1000
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:50,199
against their wills. And it was a true crime sort

1001
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,199
of thing because the things that Goddess were doing were

1002
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:58,039
definitely not within the confines of the law. She broke

1003
00:53:58,079 --> 00:54:02,119
a couple of laws. Feel yeah, and aliens, I don't know.

1004
00:54:02,199 --> 00:54:05,400
You know a lot of times people say that, I

1005
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:10,559
mean a lot of what's it called, like paranormal stuff

1006
00:54:10,679 --> 00:54:15,920
is also like it's supernatural, it's interdimensional, it's connected, right, alien.

1007
00:54:16,039 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: Right, so yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, all right, and

1008
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:26,440
the platform Wikipedia. A child narrator explains that on a

1009
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:31,159
Wednesday two years prior, in the town of Maybrook, Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania. Yes,

1010
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,519
not Pennsylvania. Okay, I never say that.

1011
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,159
Speaker 2: That state, so it doesn't exist. It was made up

1012
00:54:38,199 --> 00:54:38,639
for the movie.

1013
00:54:39,119 --> 00:54:41,119
Speaker 1: Only California, Washington, and Texas.

1014
00:54:41,199 --> 00:54:42,039
Speaker 2: Really that's for me.

1015
00:54:44,199 --> 00:54:49,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. Anyway, seventeen children from elementary school teacher Justine

1016
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,960
Gandhi's third grade class suddenly ran out from their homes

1017
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:56,000
at two seventeen am and disappeared. Only one student, Alex Lilly,

1018
00:54:56,239 --> 00:55:00,400
remained almost a month after the incident. Principal Marcus Miller

1019
00:55:00,519 --> 00:55:03,280
places just Seen on leave a mid community suspicion of

1020
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:07,719
her involvement in the children's disappearance. Depressed and ostracized, she

1021
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,039
relapses into alcoholism and seeks comfort in her ex boyfriend,

1022
00:55:11,119 --> 00:55:13,079
Piece of Ship Paul, police officer.

1023
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 2: Paul Morgan, Piece of Ship Paul Ye.

1024
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: Concerned about Alex's well being, Justine follows him home, where

1025
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:25,679
she observes the windows covered with newspaper and Alex's parents

1026
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:30,400
sitting motionless in the dark. She urges Marcus to perform

1027
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:34,400
a wellness check. Just seen, revisits Alex's house, but follows

1028
00:55:34,559 --> 00:55:36,239
Leep in her car, and this is where we see

1029
00:55:36,599 --> 00:55:40,360
Alex's mom stagger out of the house, get inside, cut

1030
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:41,079
the lock of hair.

1031
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,039
Speaker 2: Yes, just like that. You know what? It was? Sorry,

1032
00:55:44,079 --> 00:55:47,280
really quick. I wanted I'm gonna post maybe I'll post

1033
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:47,800
it on TI talk.

1034
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 1: It is.

1035
00:55:49,159 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 2: When I saw her doing that, it reminded me of

1036
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,360
the courage the Cowardly Dog the music.

1037
00:55:55,800 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, what a moment though. I thought something

1038
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,280
worse was gonna happen. I thought she was gonna kill her,

1039
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:05,679
and then she cuts a piece of her her and I.

1040
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 2: Was like, when the car door opened, it was There's

1041
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,480
I can name on one hand the number of times

1042
00:56:14,559 --> 00:56:18,400
this has happened in movies. But when the car door

1043
00:56:18,519 --> 00:56:26,559
opened and everybody in the theater did the pure panic,

1044
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,440
Oh my god, that happened, and I was like, what's

1045
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,239
gonna happen, It's gonna have what's gonna what'snna happen? It

1046
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,840
was terrifying. Something as simple as just a little a

1047
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,880
car door opening was yeah, your terror.

1048
00:56:38,599 --> 00:56:41,119
Speaker 1: The tension built in that scene where it's like the house,

1049
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,760
the car, the house, walking the.

1050
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 2: Door, and then she got a haircut. Yeah great clips.

1051
00:56:52,199 --> 00:56:54,400
No no, Also, I'm reading it in this order.

1052
00:56:54,559 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 1: But like all of these scenes, we don't see the

1053
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,280
full picture until the end of the movie because we're

1054
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,119
getting bits and pieces of everyone. Until you connect everything,

1055
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,599
everything comes together. And again my favorite style of like storytelling.

1056
00:57:06,199 --> 00:57:10,760
Don't give me that linear bullshit, give it to me pieces. Yeah, next,

1057
00:57:11,199 --> 00:57:12,400
let me let me figure it out.

1058
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:16,239
Speaker 2: Okay.

1059
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: So then archer Graph, father of missing child Matthew, begins

1060
00:57:20,079 --> 00:57:23,679
his own investigation out of frustration with the police slow progress.

1061
00:57:24,239 --> 00:57:27,280
At the reviewing security camera footage of Matthew and another child.

1062
00:57:27,599 --> 00:57:31,480
This is justin Long's Child where he forces them to show,

1063
00:57:31,719 --> 00:57:33,880
not even forces them, but just alongs like sure.

1064
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they may or may not have kissed who knows.

1065
00:57:37,119 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: Nobody knows, and they probably did. Yeah, that's how we

1066
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:40,880
thanked him.

1067
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,719
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, just like that.

1068
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:49,559
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, was there tongue? I don't know,

1069
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:51,599
and then I was like, no, I shouldn't say that,

1070
00:57:52,039 --> 00:57:52,599
and I said it.

1071
00:57:55,079 --> 00:57:57,719
Speaker 2: A full on affair is happening somewhere in the background

1072
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,400
of this storyline.

1073
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:02,679
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And you know, when he gets the footage,

1074
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,119
he sees both of them. He notices that the kids

1075
00:58:05,159 --> 00:58:09,119
are running first the same with their hands like behind them,

1076
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,599
but in the same path, because he's already got a map,

1077
00:58:11,679 --> 00:58:14,960
he's already mapped out in what direction his son went.

1078
00:58:15,039 --> 00:58:17,239
Then he sees this, they map it out and he's like,

1079
00:58:17,239 --> 00:58:19,519
all right, well it's isn't It's in this general area,

1080
00:58:19,639 --> 00:58:25,199
but they don't know where yet. And then separately, Justine

1081
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,920
and Archer have creepy ass dreams with a woman in

1082
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:29,760
clown like makeup gladys.

1083
00:58:30,079 --> 00:58:37,159
Speaker 2: Yes, so creepy. That shot of hers is that? Yeah? No,

1084
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,440
that's what Jeff sees when he wakes up every morning,

1085
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:40,440
and it's me.

1086
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1087
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:44,679
Speaker 2: Yes.

1088
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: Then while on patrol, Paul Piece of ship Paul arrest James,

1089
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,639
who we love a vagrant drug addict. That's what we

1090
00:58:54,719 --> 00:58:56,800
could to call them, Not me, I would have called

1091
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,400
him the qutie with a little bit of problems, you know.

1092
00:59:00,559 --> 00:59:07,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to edit a picture of James with

1093
00:59:07,199 --> 00:59:10,920
like the little like anime blush and like sparkles and hearts, yes,

1094
00:59:11,039 --> 00:59:11,400
and then.

1095
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: Put yourself in the corner like that.

1096
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 2: Right.

1097
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,119
Speaker 1: So, yeah, he's arrested for attempted burglary. I can't say

1098
00:59:20,119 --> 00:59:21,199
that word is I have to say it like that.

1099
00:59:21,719 --> 00:59:25,760
I'm like that cam. Okay, So he releases him because

1100
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,719
then he punches him and he assaults him. When he's

1101
00:59:27,719 --> 00:59:30,280
accidentally poked, he reaches into his pocket, and you know what, like,

1102
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,199
I understand that you have to search it, but if

1103
00:59:32,239 --> 00:59:34,519
you're afraid that you're going, if you're so dearely afraid

1104
00:59:34,559 --> 00:59:36,800
that you're going to get poked, make him empty out

1105
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,480
his pockets. Yeah, tell him, give him the order to

1106
00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:43,639
empty them out, or go back to the station, book him,

1107
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,519
process him, empty his shit out when he's at the station.

1108
00:59:47,039 --> 00:59:50,920
And then you don't risk poking yourself. And who hasn't

1109
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,280
gotten a little poke from a mysterious vaccine, who has

1110
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:54,880
not been there?

1111
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:59,679
Speaker 2: It's not that they're about to be not free, Okay, grateful, right,

1112
01:00:00,239 --> 01:00:01,599
I say it as a healthcare worker.

1113
01:00:01,639 --> 01:00:04,199
Speaker 1: I haven't poked, and I've had to do all the

1114
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:08,239
labs like it happens. But police, they are so scared

1115
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,639
of everything, and so of course he reacted this way.

1116
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 2: But that's why there's post exposure profil access. You can Yeah,

1117
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,880
you just got on that PEP within twenty four hours,

1118
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:18,519
forty eight hours, and you're good yeah.

1119
01:00:18,719 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: So to me, as a healthcare worker, I was like,

1120
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:21,639
he's just being a little bitch.

1121
01:00:22,079 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a process for this.

1122
01:00:23,719 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, like we're good, you're good, Paul, but no, Paul

1123
01:00:27,159 --> 01:00:29,320
beats the shit out of No. He punches James once

1124
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,320
in the head and James falls over, and then that

1125
01:00:31,519 --> 01:00:32,360
was caught on camera.

1126
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:35,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he's like shit, shit.

1127
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: Because he's stupid, and so yeah, that happens. Later, James

1128
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,000
is like looking for cash because he needs it right

1129
01:00:46,119 --> 01:00:50,400
for you know, as good ease. Yeah, it's just as

1130
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,360
good ease. The little tree, little tree, Yeah, just his

1131
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:52,920
little tree.

1132
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:54,639
Speaker 2: He really want diet coke. Yeah.

1133
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. And so he breaks into Alex Lily's house and

1134
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:02,920
the craziest thing to me is like he's walking around

1135
01:01:03,039 --> 01:01:05,039
right and he's like putting things in the pow case.

1136
01:01:05,599 --> 01:01:08,960
He sees Alex's parents sitting there and he's like freaked

1137
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,239
the fuck out. He falls over, but then he turns

1138
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,400
and there's like that gaming system and he's like, oh sweet,

1139
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,000
and he just gives He's like, oh yeah.

1140
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 2: That's right. I was breaking and entering and ceiling was

1141
01:01:18,079 --> 01:01:19,840
a shit. Okay, back on track, focus.

1142
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, get focus, focus And then he goes down

1143
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,480
to the basement and he sees all the kids, and

1144
01:01:26,559 --> 01:01:29,239
he's like, what the fuck. And it's so funny because, like,

1145
01:01:30,559 --> 01:01:34,440
you know, as a person like who's not in the

1146
01:01:34,599 --> 01:01:37,239
midst of an addiction, I don't like, dude, get out

1147
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:38,280
of there and call the police.

1148
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,239
Speaker 2: But no, he needs the money so he can get

1149
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:45,599
more of, you know whatever. He was doing a heroine

1150
01:01:45,639 --> 01:01:47,440
maybe math. I don't know which one it was. I'm

1151
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,360
assuming something that could be shot. The one with the spoon.

1152
01:01:50,519 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I guess when I saw him with the

1153
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,599
spoon and the lighter though, or did I imagine that,

1154
01:01:55,559 --> 01:01:55,800
you know what?

1155
01:01:55,880 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 2: Probably? Yeah, because he had needles too, more than once. Yeah,

1156
01:02:00,079 --> 01:02:01,519
could be more than one thing. Yeah.

1157
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,199
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm done. So you have the spoon, you

1158
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,440
melt the things, you put that into the needle.

1159
01:02:06,679 --> 01:02:09,679
Speaker 2: Hey, everybody take notes, yeah, and that's what you're ingesting

1160
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:10,519
into yourself.

1161
01:02:10,679 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's why he had the needles. Okay, anyway,

1162
01:02:14,239 --> 01:02:15,159
I hope he took your notes.

1163
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:21,239
Speaker 2: Okay, so Edorial later clip this and put it up

1164
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:22,599
up without.

1165
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:27,079
Speaker 1: Context and kids, that's how you do drugs. No, No,

1166
01:02:27,199 --> 01:02:27,960
I've never done them.

1167
01:02:29,079 --> 01:02:31,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, me either, not those kinds. I don't know where to.

1168
01:02:31,199 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: Get them, Okay, like I just don't anyway.

1169
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he he this.

1170
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:41,599
Speaker 1: Sure, it scares him a little bit, but it doesn't

1171
01:02:41,639 --> 01:02:43,000
at the end of the day, it doesn't matter. He

1172
01:02:43,079 --> 01:02:46,039
needs to steal so he can get more money. But

1173
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,000
when he sees the poster of the kids all missing

1174
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,360
and that reward of money later, he's like, wait, I

1175
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:52,360
saw those kids.

1176
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:56,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, wait a minute, minute, I can get that money.

1177
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,039
Speaker 1: And so he tries to call and be like, hey,

1178
01:02:59,159 --> 01:03:01,280
can I knock go to the police station, like how

1179
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:02,119
do I get my money?

1180
01:03:02,199 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 2: I know where they are?

1181
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 1: But then like he has to go there, and that's

1182
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,239
when Paul sees him, piece of shit Paul, and he

1183
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:12,280
chases him. James flees into the woods where he sees

1184
01:03:13,039 --> 01:03:17,000
something lurking. It's it looks like a clown woman right

1185
01:03:17,119 --> 01:03:22,199
Lea is Oh my god, Ronald McDonald. Yeah, scary Ronald

1186
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,559
scarier Ronald McDonald. And he gets in his tent because

1187
01:03:25,559 --> 01:03:27,519
it's like a jump scary you straight up see her.

1188
01:03:27,559 --> 01:03:29,920
And so naturally he's scared. Something is chasing him in

1189
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,719
the woods. That's not Paul, something else is out there.

1190
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:37,360
But then Paul comes chasing him, zips open that tent

1191
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,280
and James and I don't blame him. I would have

1192
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,840
done the same thing. Thinks he's being chased. He's defended

1193
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,880
himself with the bunch of needles and bam stabs Paul,

1194
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:50,599
who did deserve it. And it's just funny because he

1195
01:03:50,719 --> 01:03:53,400
was so freaked out about the one tiny prick in

1196
01:03:53,519 --> 01:03:56,159
his hand and now he's just bam.

1197
01:03:57,079 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 2: Just full of needles. Yeah, oh my god, did this No?

1198
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:07,559
Speaker 1: I think before this he had already like cheated on

1199
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:13,559
his girlfriend and his father is the her father is

1200
01:04:13,639 --> 01:04:16,440
the chief police, and he already had to tell him

1201
01:04:16,519 --> 01:04:19,800
about the camera incident on the first needle prick, and

1202
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,599
now he's got a full bunch of needles.

1203
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 2: Oh my god. He's not sometimes no, nor does he

1204
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:30,639
deserve a good time. Of course.

1205
01:04:36,559 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 1: I think this is where he tries to grab James

1206
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:40,599
to take him, I don't know, arrest him or something,

1207
01:04:40,639 --> 01:04:42,199
and James is like, no, no, no, I know where

1208
01:04:42,199 --> 01:04:45,880
those kids are. So together they drive to Alex Lilly's house.

1209
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,760
He leaves James handcuffed in the car while he investigates,

1210
01:04:50,559 --> 01:04:54,239
and he's gone for hours. James is like, what the fuck,

1211
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:56,880
I need to get out of here. Then he re emerges,

1212
01:04:57,679 --> 01:05:00,920
drags James back in the house. We don't know what

1213
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:05,559
happens to them until later. At the same time, glad

1214
01:05:05,639 --> 01:05:09,519
or Justine, Justine has been like bothering Alex Lilly like

1215
01:05:09,599 --> 01:05:12,320
and I understand she's grieving too, She's being attacked by

1216
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,280
her community. She wants answers to but she's been total

1217
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:19,000
time and time again to leave Alex Lily alone. Girl,

1218
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,840
And oh my girl, just leave him alone. Just keep drinking,

1219
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:27,679
just keep go, get into the bottle and mind your business. Yeah,

1220
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:29,719
but no, she doesn't do that. That's why her her

1221
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:30,719
hair gets cut.

1222
01:05:33,039 --> 01:05:37,239
Speaker 2: She gets a free superclip. Yes, so, and you know she.

1223
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 1: Tells Marcus about all of this, and she that poor

1224
01:05:41,079 --> 01:05:43,440
man is like, please, Justine, stay home.

1225
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 2: Fuck no truly, He's like, girl, I am tired of

1226
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:49,599
your ship. Leave it alone.

1227
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 1: Yes so, No, she doesn't leave it alone. If she

1228
01:05:53,559 --> 01:05:55,599
had not done this, like, none of this would have

1229
01:05:55,599 --> 01:05:59,519
happened to him. But because of her insistence, Marcus is

1230
01:05:59,599 --> 01:06:04,719
visited the school by Gladys because he needs to check

1231
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:08,119
on her, a wellness check on Alex and so, but

1232
01:06:08,239 --> 01:06:12,840
because his parents are all fucked up, she's the one

1233
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:16,960
who goes Gladys and he insists on beating his parents

1234
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:18,840
because he has to. He has to to make sure

1235
01:06:19,039 --> 01:06:24,039
that Alex Lily is okay. And later Gladys shows up

1236
01:06:24,079 --> 01:06:27,760
at their house with Marcus and Terry and this is

1237
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,239
where we were talking about earlier, where they shouldn't have

1238
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,199
let her in, but they do, and this is where

1239
01:06:33,239 --> 01:06:36,800
she does her little witchy ritual. She has a ribbon

1240
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:41,400
she took from Marcus, hair from Terry and Justine. This

1241
01:06:41,679 --> 01:06:47,679
enchance Marcus, he fucking attacks Terry, insane. After he brutally

1242
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,519
attacks Terry, It's so horrifying, and it just keeps going

1243
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:52,519
until his his head is like.

1244
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 2: Not there, Hamburger Helper, Yes, it was. It was.

1245
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:02,039
Speaker 1: Then he was after Justine and we see him running

1246
01:07:02,039 --> 01:07:06,280
across town with his hands you know. Then there you

1247
01:07:06,559 --> 01:07:09,000
have my room. I'm in a tiny apartment now, so

1248
01:07:09,039 --> 01:07:10,320
I can't even put my hands behind me.

1249
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 2: The wall is right there.

1250
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:14,079
Speaker 1: This is the Seattle life for you.

1251
01:07:14,199 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 2: But you know what, I love it, the Seattle live

1252
01:07:18,039 --> 01:07:21,639
we're in. Everything's bigger in Texas, you know what. No,

1253
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:28,280
I's to hear, no truly speaking of weapons. Uh. Also

1254
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:34,400
the sorry the detail in when they were under Gladyses

1255
01:07:34,519 --> 01:07:38,159
spell for some reason. They like their eyes were all yes,

1256
01:07:38,639 --> 01:07:43,199
messed up, and his were like bulging out of his head.

1257
01:07:43,719 --> 01:07:45,440
They looked so wild.

1258
01:07:46,119 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 1: Oh I forgot. He also like vomits onto Terry.

1259
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:51,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, that part I was like a.

1260
01:07:55,679 --> 01:07:56,199
Speaker 1: Disgust.

1261
01:07:57,199 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I.

1262
01:07:59,679 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 1: Again, I had no more popcorn and that was great

1263
01:08:01,519 --> 01:08:07,480
because I would have no That was insane. Yeah. He

1264
01:08:07,599 --> 01:08:10,800
runs across town or Ruto style and attacks Justine at

1265
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:13,880
the gas station where she happens to be fucking arguing

1266
01:08:14,159 --> 01:08:18,640
with Archer because he he wants answers to he's grieving.

1267
01:08:19,119 --> 01:08:22,319
He's barking up the wrong tree, though, and so he's

1268
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,159
like they're arguing. She's like, I don't I don't know

1269
01:08:25,239 --> 01:08:27,039
what happened either, and he's like, no, you have to

1270
01:08:27,119 --> 01:08:27,560
know something.

1271
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 2: She really doesn't. Yeah, She's like, please tell me what

1272
01:08:31,119 --> 01:08:31,359
you know.

1273
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 1: Yes, And so that's where Marcus arrives and starts running

1274
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:38,800
after her and our fers.

1275
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:40,640
Speaker 2: I was like, who's gonna help someone? Help her?

1276
01:08:41,239 --> 01:08:44,560
Speaker 1: Like she runs in the gas station, she's like the please.

1277
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah, god, what does she say? What

1278
01:08:47,119 --> 01:08:50,000
was that? She was like? Didn't she say? She's like yes,

1279
01:08:50,079 --> 01:08:52,800
She's like, fucking help me. And the guys like the store.

1280
01:08:53,520 --> 01:09:03,720
Oh my god, nobody got help. Help nobody, yeah except Archer.

1281
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:08,520
Speaker 1: Archer helps and so he's like fighting for his life

1282
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,239
trying to get Marcus to calm down, and he doesn't.

1283
01:09:11,319 --> 01:09:13,640
And then eventually Marcus runs in the street and is

1284
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:18,039
hit by a car and also dies. Yeah, insane. Later

1285
01:09:18,119 --> 01:09:21,319
in the hospital, Archer's like, okay, I first they thank

1286
01:09:21,359 --> 01:09:23,600
each other. She thinks him for helping her because nobody

1287
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,880
else was coming to her rescue at all. And then

1288
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:28,800
he's like, but you know what I noticed is that

1289
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:32,640
he's running just like the kids were running. And he says, like,

1290
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:35,319
if their weapons, and I was like, they said it,

1291
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:36,479
they said the title.

1292
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:40,359
Speaker 2: There's a title, yes, and.

1293
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 1: Then he brings out the map. He shows her like

1294
01:09:43,039 --> 01:09:45,199
they're running in this direction, but I don't know what's there.

1295
01:09:45,239 --> 01:09:48,439
And she's like, oh my god, Alex Lily, his house

1296
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:53,680
is there and bam. And so this is where we

1297
01:09:54,319 --> 01:09:56,319
learn a little bit more about Gladys because then we

1298
01:09:56,359 --> 01:09:58,439
cut to her Glattice and we learn she's a witch.

1299
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:02,680
She can enchant victim during their energy so that she

1300
01:10:03,079 --> 01:10:07,239
looks better. I mean, she was looking like death when

1301
01:10:07,239 --> 01:10:09,439
she first showed up. And then she's Yeah, she's looking

1302
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:10,399
better and better as.

1303
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 2: She got for a girl have a skincare regimen. You

1304
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:13,479
know what? Right?

1305
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:14,159
Speaker 1: Right?

1306
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:20,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know which I did see somebody. Oh no,

1307
01:10:20,159 --> 01:10:24,279
Jeff was telling me actually that he there, she is there.

1308
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:28,199
Speaker 1: We heard Margaret get well, get in here if you're gonna.

1309
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:33,520
Speaker 2: Make no noise anyway. That allegedly, so I'm sorry. What

1310
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:36,159
is her name again? The actress who played Gladys.

1311
01:10:37,319 --> 01:10:42,159
Speaker 1: Oh, Adam, no one, Adam, Amy something Madigan, Yes, Madigan.

1312
01:10:44,199 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 2: Amy, Madigan, Adam. It's close as cluss, but so apparently.

1313
01:10:48,199 --> 01:10:50,880
I think it was Zach Craigor that gave her the

1314
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:55,479
options for playing this. Okay, I'll wait wait, yes, we're

1315
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:57,520
going to talk about that. Yes, yes, circle back to

1316
01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:57,880
it later.

1317
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, put a pen in, it'll come back.

1318
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, put a theigned branch with hair and ribbons on it. Yes.

1319
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:11,359
Speaker 1: So yeah, where was I let's see during their victims rejuvenate,

1320
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:15,159
Yes for juvening. Okay. So after enchanting Alex's parents and

1321
01:11:15,319 --> 01:11:17,800
threatening their lives and poor Alex has to feed them,

1322
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:22,039
she orders Alex to keep her secret and then to

1323
01:11:22,119 --> 01:11:25,079
bring personal items from his classmates because she needs more

1324
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:31,159
for her skincare routine. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. And these

1325
01:11:31,279 --> 01:11:36,960
items that he takes, he uses she uses to make

1326
01:11:37,039 --> 01:11:41,359
the spell that draws them all to their house at

1327
01:11:41,399 --> 01:11:44,479
two seventeen am, all on the same day and time.

1328
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:47,199
They all run out and that's why because of her spell.

1329
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,399
And then they are kept in the basement and poor

1330
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,600
Alex has to carry more and more soups.

1331
01:11:53,119 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 2: It was like a Chef Boyard commercial.

1332
01:11:55,319 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, propaganda for soup.

1333
01:11:57,479 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, big soup. Soup paid for this, they really did.

1334
01:12:02,039 --> 01:12:04,079
They sponsored this movie and they wanted to go out

1335
01:12:04,119 --> 01:12:07,199
and buy Campbell's. Speaking of this, patron episode is brought

1336
01:12:07,199 --> 01:12:07,520
to you by.

1337
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:11,239
Speaker 1: Campbell's Let Me Go get my can I hate can't suit?

1338
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:16,640
I mean, especially after this movie Jesus, Yeah, especially I

1339
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:18,000
will make a quick while the.

1340
01:12:20,319 --> 01:12:22,600
Speaker 2: No I won't. I won't put my mom to me

1341
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,039
and she'll make it but I can't.

1342
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:28,239
Speaker 1: I should, but I don't.

1343
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 2: I'm the worst. Okay.

1344
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:35,119
Speaker 1: So then Justine and Archer together enter Alex Silly's house

1345
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:39,079
and they're immediately attacked by Paul and James, and of

1346
01:12:39,159 --> 01:12:41,399
course Justine's like, what the fuck Paul, Like, what are

1347
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:42,039
you doing here?

1348
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 2: Paul? Why are you attacking me?

1349
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:44,239
Speaker 1: Paul?

1350
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 2: You know She's like, oh my god.

1351
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:55,079
Speaker 1: She's like Paul, Paul, Why my god, Yeah, Paul, Yeah,

1352
01:12:55,159 --> 01:12:57,520
he's there in this enchantment. So they you know, this

1353
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:02,439
is where we get the hilarious scene of archer James

1354
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,800
again and again. That was amazing. And then I mean

1355
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:09,960
they eventually just seen has to take Paul's gun and

1356
01:13:10,079 --> 01:13:13,439
shoot him. That's the only way I'm devastating for her really,

1357
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,960
because that was her boo, even though he was in

1358
01:13:16,039 --> 01:13:17,039
another relationship, that.

1359
01:13:17,119 --> 01:13:21,399
Speaker 2: Was her boo. Yeah, that was her stinky link. Yes,

1360
01:13:22,039 --> 01:13:24,800
well it was. And when she tried to kill him,

1361
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:28,199
she shot his neck first, right.

1362
01:13:28,279 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 1: Yes, and he kept going again.

1363
01:13:30,399 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was like, that is before all that though.

1364
01:13:34,039 --> 01:13:37,600
Speaker 1: The peeler to the face, Oh my god, I forgot

1365
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:38,640
about that part.

1366
01:13:40,039 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 2: Oh that was crazy. That was another part where I

1367
01:13:44,039 --> 01:13:47,479
was like, yeah, and I knew it was coming as

1368
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,199
soon as I saw them. Oh yeah, show it, I said,

1369
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:52,920
I'm out. So what you want to do is you

1370
01:13:53,319 --> 01:13:56,399
you you peel your garnish, you twist it over the

1371
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,279
rim of your martini and then you lay it on

1372
01:13:58,399 --> 01:14:02,159
top and it's a beautiful garnish for your Campbell's human

1373
01:14:02,279 --> 01:14:06,479
soup martini. Yes, skin from this guy's face.

1374
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:09,159
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's the Paul Campbell soup.

1375
01:14:09,279 --> 01:14:20,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Paul tiny yes, beef jerky flavored yeah, And.

1376
01:14:20,119 --> 01:14:24,119
Speaker 1: Then I forget why Justine also, I mean James also

1377
01:14:24,199 --> 01:14:27,600
won't stop attacking Archer, and she does end up shooting

1378
01:14:28,039 --> 01:14:35,279
or James too, I think, right. Yeah, then she stays

1379
01:14:35,359 --> 01:14:37,760
up there like grieving because she literally just killed Paul.

1380
01:14:39,319 --> 01:14:42,279
While that's happening, Archer goes down into the basement and

1381
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:46,840
he finds I think he sees Matt like his son too.

1382
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:49,239
But then Gladys is down there and she's.

1383
01:14:49,159 --> 01:14:52,199
Speaker 2: Like she's in the corners.

1384
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:58,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was scary, and so then Gladys enchants him

1385
01:14:58,319 --> 01:15:01,279
and he attacks Justine. She he's not expecting it at first,

1386
01:15:01,319 --> 01:15:02,520
like they don't know what's going on.

1387
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:07,239
Speaker 2: We do, but they don't. Yeah, they really don't. No. No.

1388
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:11,720
Speaker 1: At the same time that this is happening, Alex was

1389
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:15,520
warned not to cross this boundary of salt that is

1390
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:18,760
in front of his parents, and then Gladys disappears into

1391
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:21,960
the basement, but Alex is already like, now something is up,

1392
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:26,079
and so he does he breaks that boundary and then

1393
01:15:26,119 --> 01:15:29,239
his parents attack him. But he I was like, why

1394
01:15:29,359 --> 01:15:30,920
is he doing this, but he had a plan. He

1395
01:15:31,319 --> 01:15:35,520
had this plan all along. He runs into Gladys's room, grabs,

1396
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,359
you know, a hairstrand from her wig the stick.

1397
01:15:40,239 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 2: He snaps it.

1398
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 1: When he snaps it, immediately she's like fuck.

1399
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:46,640
Speaker 2: She senses it. She knows. Yeah.

1400
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:51,079
Speaker 1: Then the children run out of the basement chase Gladys

1401
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:54,359
around the neighborhood. They keep chasing her. That she's going.

1402
01:15:54,399 --> 01:15:57,199
They're going through houses, the people inside the houses. That's

1403
01:15:57,239 --> 01:15:57,680
so funny.

1404
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 2: They're like, honey, very like Fairest Mueller's day off when

1405
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:05,239
he's right through the neighborhoods. It was very that he was.

1406
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 1: It was. Then they catch up to her and tear

1407
01:16:10,039 --> 01:16:10,800
her apart.

1408
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,119
Speaker 2: And they grab her by her three little.

1409
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they just fucking pool and pool.

1410
01:16:18,279 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 2: Oh my god. They pull her apart like a string cheese.

1411
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:26,399
Speaker 1: It's insane. And then her death freeze her more recent

1412
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:30,880
victims but not those who have been in like under

1413
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:36,680
her spell the longest yeah, and it ends with like, okay,

1414
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:39,359
Archer is reunited with Matthew. He carries his son home.

1415
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:42,880
Then a narrator, the little kid narrator, which makes it

1416
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:46,079
all creepier because kids just make things creepier is like

1417
01:16:46,239 --> 01:16:47,960
Alex moved out of the town to live with a

1418
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:51,000
different aunt who is so much nicer, but his parents

1419
01:16:51,079 --> 01:16:55,239
were institutionalized and he's not feeding them soups someone else is.

1420
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:56,760
So they never recovered.

1421
01:16:57,239 --> 01:16:57,399
Speaker 2: Yea.

1422
01:16:57,880 --> 01:16:59,520
Speaker 1: Some of the kids spoke again.

1423
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 2: Yes, some that made me think. I was I was like, okay,

1424
01:17:03,039 --> 01:17:06,439
so is it that the longer they were under the spell,

1425
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:08,439
the longer it's going to take them to get back

1426
01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:08,920
to normal.

1427
01:17:09,079 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 1: Maybe, I feel I hope, because it would suffer Alex

1428
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,159
for his parents to just like, not I recondiz.

1429
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 2: That's it, That's how they are forever. I was like,

1430
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,920
I really think that there's like a rehabilitation aspect that

1431
01:17:20,119 --> 01:17:23,239
like the spell is going to wear off. And because

1432
01:17:23,319 --> 01:17:26,079
like Archer, you know, he kind of like came to

1433
01:17:26,359 --> 01:17:28,880
immediately and he was only under it for not even

1434
01:17:29,039 --> 01:17:33,079
like a minute, right, Yeah, So I was like, I

1435
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:35,359
think and if he's saying that some of the kids

1436
01:17:35,399 --> 01:17:38,479
started talking, I'm like, okay, So it was an immediate

1437
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:41,479
back to normal for Archer. The kids, it took a while,

1438
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:44,399
but they later some of them are talking. Yeah. Yeah.

1439
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:47,479
The parents. Alex's parents were the ones that were under it.

1440
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:50,239
The longest. So I was like, it's probably going to

1441
01:17:50,279 --> 01:17:54,720
take them longer than anybody else to start to get

1442
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:56,439
back to normal a little bit. So I was like,

1443
01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:59,720
I'm hopeful for Alex that his parents will make it back.

1444
01:18:00,039 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 1: He deserves it. He does. He does the hero of

1445
01:18:03,039 --> 01:18:05,399
the movie that moment when his dad isn't there to

1446
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:08,079
pick him up and you immediately know something is wrong.

1447
01:18:08,239 --> 01:18:10,039
And then he gets home and he's trying to talk

1448
01:18:10,079 --> 01:18:12,920
to them and they're not answering back. I was crying

1449
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:13,600
for that little kid.

1450
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 2: I was like, no, no, oh my god. It was. Yeah,

1451
01:18:19,199 --> 01:18:21,319
it was really rough. It was so so sad, so

1452
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:22,279
sad it was.

1453
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:26,840
Speaker 1: It was And Okay, Gladys. I wanted to talk about

1454
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:30,279
Gladys a little bit, played by Amy Madigan again, like

1455
01:18:30,359 --> 01:18:33,119
I said earlier, Okay, Amy, I was not familiar with

1456
01:18:33,239 --> 01:18:39,279
your game, but wow, killed Amy eight. Yes, she did so.

1457
01:18:39,399 --> 01:18:42,560
Apparently Zach Kreeger told her to pick two different ideas

1458
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:45,520
for Gladys' origin story and then she could pick either

1459
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:49,159
one and he no one knows which one she picked, Yeah,

1460
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:52,760
he said quote. I presented Amy with two options of

1461
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:54,760
her origin story. I was like, you can pick one

1462
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:56,880
of those two they're very different options. You don't have

1463
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,159
to tell me, but it's either this or that. I

1464
01:18:59,199 --> 01:19:01,479
don't know which she put. One is that she was

1465
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:04,199
once a regular person. For her spells and corrosive actions

1466
01:19:04,239 --> 01:19:06,439
are our last ditch effort to heal herself of a

1467
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:10,319
life threatening illness. She had to adopt this methodology that

1468
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:12,560
she uses out of a place of emergency to keep

1469
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:14,760
herself alive. I won't say any more than that. The

1470
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:16,960
other was that maybe she's not a person at all.

1471
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:21,800
The off killed her red wigs and outlundish makeup suggests

1472
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,800
Gladys is some other kind of creature trying to stimulate

1473
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:27,880
what she thinks a normal human being looks like. But

1474
01:19:28,039 --> 01:19:33,079
she's doing it badly. He is framed, No, she is

1475
01:19:33,159 --> 01:19:36,359
framed in the context of Javier Bardem's character from No

1476
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:43,000
Country for Old Men. I haven't seen it. But again,

1477
01:19:43,079 --> 01:19:45,159
he doesn't know the answer end quote. He doesn't know

1478
01:19:45,239 --> 01:19:48,039
the answer, and he loves that, he said, quote, I

1479
01:19:48,119 --> 01:19:50,520
don't need to know the answer. He doesn't need to

1480
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:52,479
know it, which is why earlier I was like, I

1481
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:53,920
think he loves the vagueness.

1482
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1483
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 1: Costume top notch.

1484
01:19:59,399 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 2: Listen this Halloween it's going to be a night of

1485
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:04,520
a thousand gladyses. There's gonna be so many, and I

1486
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:06,439
kind of want to be her too, even though I

1487
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:08,319
know there's going to be one hundred of us out there,

1488
01:20:09,039 --> 01:20:11,359
but I'm like, I cannot wait to see. I mean,

1489
01:20:11,399 --> 01:20:14,399
already people are doing her costume and costplaying as her

1490
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:18,079
online and I'm loving all of them. Yes, and I

1491
01:20:18,239 --> 01:20:24,159
also especially love drag queens performing as her. It's so good, amazing.

1492
01:20:24,279 --> 01:20:27,880
But yeah, the Halloween costumes are about to pop off.

1493
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:32,159
Speaker 1: Yes, apparently the costume designer was like deranged grandma when

1494
01:20:32,239 --> 01:20:32,800
designing her.

1495
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 2: Look who's way Who's.

1496
01:20:36,159 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 1: The costume designer was thinking deranged grandma.

1497
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 2: When range GRAMA, Oh my god, yeah no, it really

1498
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:42,520
really is that.

1499
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 1: Like, but before I go on with this part of

1500
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:48,000
the notes, what do you think which one of those

1501
01:20:48,079 --> 01:20:48,920
do you think she pitched?

1502
01:20:50,159 --> 01:20:54,600
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so hard to choose, Like ever

1503
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:57,239
since so Jeff had told me about this, that that

1504
01:20:57,439 --> 01:21:01,439
that that quote, and I really like I cannot make

1505
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,359
my mind up about it. I really don't know, I

1506
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:10,199
I don't know. I'm I'm going to take the easy answer,

1507
01:21:10,319 --> 01:21:12,000
and I'm going to say it's a mix. I'm going

1508
01:21:12,079 --> 01:21:15,159
to say that she was maybe like faced with this

1509
01:21:15,399 --> 01:21:20,560
like life threatening thing, and she started doing these rituals

1510
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:23,640
or this magic whatever it is, and it did become

1511
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,319
corroser to her, and it opened her up to something else.

1512
01:21:26,359 --> 01:21:30,079
And so now she's a mix of something. Okay, maybe

1513
01:21:30,159 --> 01:21:33,119
she like drew in something. She made a deal, you know,

1514
01:21:33,199 --> 01:21:35,439
with a demon or something, and it's like now co

1515
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:40,600
inhabiting her body. So in order to keep away this illness,

1516
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:44,880
she needs to let that demon possess her so that

1517
01:21:45,039 --> 01:21:49,079
her body stays alive. I don't know. I'm like, yes,

1518
01:21:49,239 --> 01:21:49,800
I love that.

1519
01:21:50,279 --> 01:21:53,039
Speaker 1: I think she's a witch, but like an old ass,

1520
01:21:53,359 --> 01:21:57,079
ancient ass, which has been alive for so long. That's

1521
01:21:57,119 --> 01:22:00,000
why she doesn't know how to act because things keep change.

1522
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:01,960
So she's like, I don't even know what the fuck

1523
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:03,720
people are up to anymore. I'm going to be this

1524
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:08,479
fucking weirdo. And I love that she needs people. You

1525
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:10,199
know what she's doing. She needs to do that to

1526
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:14,520
keep staying alive, because like there's so many legends where

1527
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:17,640
we just had to eat babies to stay looking young,

1528
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:20,800
and to me, this could be another iteration of that

1529
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:23,680
where she has to do all this and so. But

1530
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:26,119
the reason she acts so weird and doesn't act like

1531
01:22:26,199 --> 01:22:28,600
a normal person, like a creature trying to be a person,

1532
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:31,079
is because she's so old. She like doesn't know how

1533
01:22:31,119 --> 01:22:31,520
to act.

1534
01:22:32,119 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 2: I love that option.

1535
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 1: That's what I'm going with here.

1536
01:22:35,079 --> 01:22:37,640
Speaker 2: I like that a lot. Yeah, she's like this ancient

1537
01:22:38,319 --> 01:22:44,239
thing maybe human, but yeah, like she's losing her humanity. Yeah,

1538
01:22:44,279 --> 01:22:45,560
because she's so alive.

1539
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:50,600
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I love that. Also, she's been compared to

1540
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:58,079
the like thing from Long Legs. I haven't seen it either, though. Again,

1541
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:00,960
these are all coming out when I was into my

1542
01:23:01,079 --> 01:23:03,880
movie going phase, and I can't I don't know. I

1543
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:06,199
need to like treat movies as shows where I pause

1544
01:23:06,239 --> 01:23:10,960
them and then revisit them because I don't have a

1545
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:14,000
lot of time to watch things. Accept the same shows

1546
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:14,520
again and again.

1547
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:20,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really liked Long Legs too. I can kind

1548
01:23:20,279 --> 01:23:22,039
of see that comparison.

1549
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:26,399
Speaker 1: And then other people have compared her to the clown

1550
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:29,840
from it, Pennywise. But I'm like, what if you combine

1551
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:33,000
Pennywise and Long Legs, I think then that's what she

1552
01:23:33,119 --> 01:23:33,439
looks like.

1553
01:23:34,319 --> 01:23:37,039
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, like I said earlier, like a

1554
01:23:37,119 --> 01:23:42,239
really freaky Ronald McDonald. Yeah, yeah, so maybe like a

1555
01:23:42,319 --> 01:23:44,439
demonic rotal McDonald.

1556
01:23:45,079 --> 01:23:50,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, and oh yeah, I re said this. She's just

1557
01:23:50,079 --> 01:23:54,399
like a super old Asian witch that doesn't want to die. Also,

1558
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:57,960
what was like she's like obviously she's evil, Like there's

1559
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,119
no questioning that. I still love her, you know, I

1560
01:24:01,199 --> 01:24:04,560
support her wrongs and her rights. But what was like

1561
01:24:05,199 --> 01:24:07,680
wild to me is that we see her get so

1562
01:24:08,319 --> 01:24:11,560
like a touch of emotion like sadness. When Alex is like,

1563
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:13,359
if you get better, are you going to leave my house?

1564
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:17,359
It's like she wanted to be welcome there, but first how.

1565
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:22,359
Speaker 2: Like how yeah? Yeah, yeah, there's that little like shred

1566
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:26,720
of again, that humanity where she feels that sting of

1567
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:28,880
like I'm not wanted.

1568
01:24:29,039 --> 01:24:32,840
Speaker 1: Yes again, after all she's done to Alex, I don't

1569
01:24:33,279 --> 01:24:35,319
know why she would expect or want that.

1570
01:24:36,199 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like miss thing parents' faces like, oh crazy,

1571
01:24:43,319 --> 01:24:49,039
that was crazy. I'm getting rid of all of our

1572
01:24:49,079 --> 01:24:52,199
civil war. We're only gonna have plastic cutlery from now on,

1573
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:54,520
so we're eating with our hands. We're eating with our

1574
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:57,720
hands honestly, because the plastic will hurt more, it won't

1575
01:24:57,720 --> 01:24:58,239
even go in.

1576
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,560
Speaker 1: But the reason I think she's a very old ancient

1577
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:06,520
witch is because of her rituals that she does. Because

1578
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:10,640
her stick looks like it's from a blackthorn tree, which

1579
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:14,479
is huge in Ireland, the British Isles, like Europe, it's

1580
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:17,319
like connected to witchcraft there and it has been since

1581
01:25:17,359 --> 01:25:21,479
like the age of time, like fucking the I don't know,

1582
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:24,199
witch trials of like the fifteen hundreds, like medieval times.

1583
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:29,000
And this tree look up a blackthorn tree. It's like rough,

1584
01:25:29,319 --> 01:25:32,840
scaly looking, it looks scary, and the branch she has

1585
01:25:33,039 --> 01:25:37,439
very much looks like it. And to witches, this tree

1586
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:39,800
represents the dark side of witchcraft.

1587
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:41,399
Speaker 2: And I was like, wow, this makes sense.

1588
01:25:42,199 --> 01:25:46,319
Speaker 1: And then even in like European Christian folklore, this tree

1589
01:25:46,399 --> 01:25:52,000
is associated with witches and apparently it was back then

1590
01:25:52,159 --> 01:25:56,159
believed to be used for binding whatever that means. At first,

1591
01:25:56,239 --> 01:25:57,279
I was like what does that mean? But then I

1592
01:25:57,359 --> 01:25:59,159
was like, you know what, it makes sense when you

1593
01:25:59,239 --> 01:26:02,960
think about how she's like when she uses her stick

1594
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:06,039
and snaps it, that person belongs to her now basically

1595
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:09,159
like you know, so she's like, I guess binding them.

1596
01:26:09,319 --> 01:26:12,119
You could say they're like attached to her now. So

1597
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:14,279
I was like, wow, yeah, no, this doesn't make so

1598
01:26:14,359 --> 01:26:18,119
much sense. And in medieval times it was said that

1599
01:26:18,199 --> 01:26:22,119
the devil poked his followers fingers. I don't know why

1600
01:26:22,159 --> 01:26:23,960
their fingers, but then I was like, wait, she's poking

1601
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:27,279
her finger. Oh my god, my brain is making connections. Anyway,

1602
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:31,359
he would poke the finger of his followers with the

1603
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:35,600
thorn of a blackthorn tree. And then I was like, wow, okay,

1604
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:36,479
yeah she's a witch.

1605
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm googling it now and I'm seeing all

1606
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:43,720
of these results for this tree. I was like, oh

1607
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:47,439
my god, it was like this magical bond zee and

1608
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:50,119
I kind of want one, right, I'm like, where do

1609
01:26:50,279 --> 01:26:52,800
I where can they plan on? What nursery do I

1610
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:54,720
go to to buy one? Right?

1611
01:26:55,079 --> 01:26:59,560
Speaker 1: Wow? So yeah that's the After reading all that, I

1612
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:02,319
was like, no, this she's for sure, which to me now,

1613
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:05,720
after all, taking all this and these practices are like

1614
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:09,640
old as fuck, so like like Celtic times, I was like, well, well, yeah,

1615
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:10,920
she's probably from that time.

1616
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:15,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. She has such like a mastery of the craft

1617
01:27:15,399 --> 01:27:17,520
in the movie, like she's just like it's like second

1618
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:19,840
nature to her. It's very she's like super casual with

1619
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:22,560
it too, like especially when she's well for all of them.

1620
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:24,680
She's just kind of talking to her and she's like, yeah,

1621
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:28,359
you know, I'm like trying to She's like yeah, just

1622
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:31,600
like you know, hot dog that's cute. Snap yeah yeah,

1623
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:34,680
Like she's barely even trying. Yeah, she's no baby witch,

1624
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:38,119
truly experienced, experienced for sure.

1625
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:44,319
Speaker 1: Professional, She's been around and I mean that's what I

1626
01:27:44,399 --> 01:27:46,079
had on Gladys. Is there anything else you want to

1627
01:27:46,079 --> 01:27:46,600
add about her?

1628
01:27:48,319 --> 01:27:53,399
Speaker 2: She is the mother I never had, the sister I

1629
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:59,840
always want. Okay, yeah, Like I'm obsessed with her and

1630
01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:02,680
the like the like for like, I don't know, I'm like,

1631
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:04,880
I know she's evil. I know she's evil. I know

1632
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:08,560
what she was doing was wrong, but she's kind of fierce.

1633
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:11,279
Like you said earlier that County Bob, like she's giving

1634
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:14,920
giving me life and she's and she's also taking life,

1635
01:28:15,159 --> 01:28:20,159
you know, so she's giving him taking. It's recipious. Yeah.

1636
01:28:20,199 --> 01:28:21,840
It was like just I don't know. Everything about her

1637
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:26,079
was like such good character design and so well performed,

1638
01:28:26,359 --> 01:28:30,079
like and the the lore is so good, especially because

1639
01:28:30,199 --> 01:28:33,239
it's like, what exactly is the lore that ay Amy

1640
01:28:33,279 --> 01:28:38,119
Madigan was given this prompt of like you choose her

1641
01:28:38,199 --> 01:28:44,359
background and don't tell anybody I think that's so cool. Yeah,

1642
01:28:44,399 --> 01:28:47,119
she's one of my favorite characters. I think. Ever, like

1643
01:28:47,239 --> 01:28:49,359
she's yes, yes, so so cool.

1644
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree. And then the title weapons. Obviously,

1645
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:59,119
I think one direct tied to the title is Gladys

1646
01:28:59,159 --> 01:29:02,520
turning her victim into literal weapons to do her bidding

1647
01:29:03,239 --> 01:29:06,760
when she is snapping them to her will or snapping

1648
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:11,760
them into her will. But there's something else, And I

1649
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:13,600
was like, you know what, though, you could also say

1650
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:19,159
that grief can be weaponized for nefarious purposes, which we

1651
01:29:19,279 --> 01:29:22,960
have seen in real irl sadly, like when the whole

1652
01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:26,199
this is terrible because I don't remember her name, Blake

1653
01:29:26,279 --> 01:29:32,279
and Riley act happened and unfortunately the family of her

1654
01:29:33,199 --> 01:29:37,840
went on like a media press run demonizing immigrants when

1655
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:40,560
like one person did this, and I was like, she's

1656
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:44,239
essentially become a weapon for them to push their narrative

1657
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:46,840
and with the whole movie, so you're not grief, I

1658
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:48,399
was like, oh, there it is.

1659
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh my god, that is such a good

1660
01:29:53,279 --> 01:29:57,880
way of looking at that, Like that's like a there's

1661
01:29:57,920 --> 01:29:59,239
got to be a better word than good, but that

1662
01:29:59,319 --> 01:30:02,359
is like such I don't know, like yeah, that is

1663
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:04,680
it's just yeah, That is a really interesting, like I

1664
01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:08,399
think accurate way to look at that is that, yeah,

1665
01:30:08,439 --> 01:30:15,159
people will weaponize their grief and their trauma. Although it's hard,

1666
01:30:15,239 --> 01:30:17,840
it's hard right to be like, you don't want to

1667
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:20,279
tell somebody how to grieve, but this is obviously like

1668
01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:25,640
you're like, yeah, you're using this person's tragedy to harm

1669
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:32,520
entire communities, to harm an entire group of people, and

1670
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:36,039
so yeah, you're essentially you're turning their their their legacy

1671
01:30:36,119 --> 01:30:39,159
now is that they're a weapon against those people. Yeah.

1672
01:30:39,279 --> 01:30:41,319
So wow, I didn't even I hadn't thought of that.

1673
01:30:41,319 --> 01:30:43,760
Speaker 1: And that is this is what happens when you overanalyze things.

1674
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:51,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you really be thinking you yeah, yeah, god, yeah, yeah, no, definitely,

1675
01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:54,319
and it happens a lot. Yeah yeah, oh yeah wow.

1676
01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:59,399
Speaker 1: I mean even within the movie Josh Berlin, I keep

1677
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:01,159
going from using his name in the movie and his

1678
01:31:01,239 --> 01:31:03,279
actor name because I keeps getting one or the other.

1679
01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:04,279
Speaker 2: But he is.

1680
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:09,640
Speaker 1: Essentially attacking just seeing the most in that initial scene

1681
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:13,039
during the conference that they're doing in the school, he's

1682
01:31:13,079 --> 01:31:16,199
the most outspoken. He's the one riding Witch on her car.

1683
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:24,279
He's the one attacking her verbally, not like Marcus who

1684
01:31:24,319 --> 01:31:29,159
physically attracted her in the gas station, and because he

1685
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:32,640
has turned his grief into a weapon because he's grieving.

1686
01:31:33,079 --> 01:31:36,079
Now there's a witch hunt for Justine who literally doesn't

1687
01:31:36,159 --> 01:31:40,439
know what's happening. Yeah, and she's become the scapegoat. But

1688
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:41,520
it looks bad, like.

1689
01:31:43,159 --> 01:31:48,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think one not even a criticism,

1690
01:31:48,159 --> 01:31:51,199
but just like something I was curious about is everybody

1691
01:31:51,359 --> 01:31:54,840
was so like like, yeah, the witch hunt was on her.

1692
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:59,760
But I feel like if I was someone in that community,

1693
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:03,880
I would have also been like why was he spared? Alex? Right?

1694
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:08,479
Like where nobody asking Yeah, suddenly his parents are sick

1695
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:11,520
after these kids go missing, like no, I want to

1696
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:14,880
see them, Like what do you mean? Why was why

1697
01:32:15,039 --> 01:32:16,880
was he taken? And why was he left? And my

1698
01:32:17,039 --> 01:32:19,359
kid was taken? Yes, yeah, I would have been asking

1699
01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:22,079
that as much as I was like why why did

1700
01:32:22,119 --> 01:32:24,479
it happen? In her class? Like yes, his parents I

1701
01:32:24,520 --> 01:32:27,640
think were also should have been as much of a

1702
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:31,960
suspects as as she was, right, because it's like, you know,

1703
01:32:32,039 --> 01:32:35,119
like why was he spared? Like that doesn't so yeah,

1704
01:32:35,159 --> 01:32:38,800
I was like why is nobody questioning except her? Except

1705
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:41,359
for true? True? True? Yeah, But again like it's it's

1706
01:32:41,399 --> 01:32:43,199
a movie, right, so people are not going to go

1707
01:32:43,279 --> 01:32:45,359
to the most obvious things.

1708
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:49,159
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, another thing that came to mind for me,

1709
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:52,039
and the director has come out and said, no, this

1710
01:32:52,279 --> 01:32:54,840
was not my intention at all, but in this climate,

1711
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:59,720
there's no avoiding it. School shootings because kids, like all

1712
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:02,000
these kids in a school go missing. At the same time,

1713
01:33:02,359 --> 01:33:06,560
the parents reaction to yelling at Justine could be very

1714
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:10,079
much mirror a reaction of like, well, why did he

1715
01:33:10,159 --> 01:33:13,279
have access to this like gun? Why was nothing done

1716
01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:16,439
before to stop this? Like that's immediately my mind went

1717
01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:19,079
to there. And like literally at the time we were

1718
01:33:19,119 --> 01:33:22,119
recording this morning or was it yesterday, I see there

1719
01:33:22,159 --> 01:33:22,920
was a school shooting.

1720
01:33:23,399 --> 01:33:32,800
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, oh my god. This fucking country is like

1721
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:39,079
a shill truly, like put it in the garbage bin,

1722
01:33:39,159 --> 01:33:43,960
start all over. But yeah, it's kind of I think

1723
01:33:44,079 --> 01:33:46,279
that is like at like the surface level like before

1724
01:33:46,319 --> 01:33:49,119
I heard also like the interviews with Zach Wher, he

1725
01:33:49,239 --> 01:33:51,800
was like, no, this is more about like my childhood

1726
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:55,239
versus anything else. I think it's very easy for people

1727
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:58,479
to make that assumption, like Budge, it's about that, and

1728
01:33:58,600 --> 01:34:03,199
I think it is again for lack of a better word.

1729
01:34:03,239 --> 01:34:05,439
I think it's a good analogy. It's I think it's

1730
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:09,159
like a poignant kind of way to have that conversation,

1731
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:13,800
because yeah, it's like suddenly these kids go missing all

1732
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:15,479
at once and it's in a school, and it's like,

1733
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:20,119
this is something that unfortunately happens often in this fuck

1734
01:34:20,159 --> 01:34:23,840
ass country. So yeah, I'm like, yeah, I can see

1735
01:34:24,039 --> 01:34:26,239
how people made that connection.

1736
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:34,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Another big theme alcoholism addiction. The ramifications of

1737
01:34:34,399 --> 01:34:38,279
both of those things. We see with Justine whose alcoholism

1738
01:34:38,399 --> 01:34:43,000
gets worse and worse and then thus her descend back

1739
01:34:43,079 --> 01:34:45,920
into alcoholism affects Paul, who again is a piece of

1740
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:49,600
shit already anyway, Yeah, but he makes the wrong choices

1741
01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:52,800
at the same time, and also what's it called, like

1742
01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:56,600
breaks his sobriety with her, and together they're terrible.

1743
01:34:58,119 --> 01:34:58,560
Speaker 2: Combination.

1744
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:00,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, like they bring out the word in each other,

1745
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:04,319
but they were meant to be, Yeah, truly, But like

1746
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:07,920
we see her get worse and worse as the movie

1747
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:10,600
goes on with her, like that's how she's coping with alcohol,

1748
01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:14,000
and then of course James James and his addiction on

1749
01:35:14,159 --> 01:35:17,600
how that plays out, and like through those characters, I

1750
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:19,600
think it makes so much sense that it was an

1751
01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:23,760
introspective movie for the director when he talks about like

1752
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:28,760
his parents and how this is like him putting that

1753
01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:30,399
into a movie, and I was like, oh, that makes

1754
01:35:30,399 --> 01:35:34,119
so much sense when you look at these three characters

1755
01:35:34,279 --> 01:35:35,880
and their addictions.

1756
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:40,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, addiction was very prevalent in this movie. And yeah,

1757
01:35:40,079 --> 01:35:42,640
I don't think it's something that I've seen and maybe

1758
01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:44,760
I'm just not seeing a lot, but it's not I

1759
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:48,359
think a conversation, the conversation that I've seen happening a

1760
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:51,800
lot or maybe enough about this movie because I'm like

1761
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:54,720
three of the main characters, like three of like the

1762
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:57,279
characters that we follow in the movie, they're dealing with this,

1763
01:35:57,479 --> 01:36:02,920
So how is that not more of a focus? And

1764
01:36:03,079 --> 01:36:04,479
I'm talking about like in the rest of the world,

1765
01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:07,000
like people that are talking about the movie online and stuff.

1766
01:36:08,159 --> 01:36:10,560
But again, I could just be missing those conversations.

1767
01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:12,720
Speaker 1: So I mean, I haven't seen them, which is why

1768
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:15,600
I brought it up. Why is no one talking about this?

1769
01:36:18,279 --> 01:36:20,880
Another thing that was like crazy to me because it's

1770
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:24,680
like it happens again and again. But boundaries being crossed,

1771
01:36:25,319 --> 01:36:29,359
Oh my god, yeah, again and again, like obviously the biggest,

1772
01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:32,319
like you know, one Alex crossing the salt boundary that

1773
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:35,920
Gladys has placed. But even like smaller examples of this

1774
01:36:36,359 --> 01:36:42,640
is like the initial when when uh, Justine, Justine and

1775
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:46,560
Paul meet at the bar after that crazy meeting at

1776
01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:48,840
the school, where she's like, can I give you a

1777
01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:51,760
hug because that has to be like some boundary that

1778
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:55,000
him and his girlfriend have and he breaks it immediately

1779
01:36:55,119 --> 01:36:57,279
He's like, sure of course you can.

1780
01:36:59,119 --> 01:37:01,680
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yeah. That seem was kind of funny

1781
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:04,359
to me too, because she was giving very like I'm

1782
01:37:04,399 --> 01:37:07,560
not like a regular girl. She's not She's not like

1783
01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:11,199
the other girl. Ye. Yeah. I was like, Okay, this

1784
01:37:11,439 --> 01:37:13,880
is a problem I already I can already tell like

1785
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:17,840
I've seen this happen before. Yeah, that was yeah.

1786
01:37:18,399 --> 01:37:24,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. And her continuous pushing boundaries with Marcus and Alex, Yes,

1787
01:37:24,319 --> 01:37:28,000
that was another big one where if she hadn't been

1788
01:37:28,079 --> 01:37:32,640
pushing so much, Marcus would have been alive watching documentaries

1789
01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:33,479
with Terry.

1790
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:38,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, truly eating their seven hot dogs. But when

1791
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:41,159
she was like parked outside of Alex's house on the

1792
01:37:41,239 --> 01:37:44,520
street and he's walking back and then now we know

1793
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:47,319
that he's trying to get soup to all of his

1794
01:37:47,399 --> 01:37:50,279
classmates to keep and his parents to keep them alive. Yes,

1795
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:53,560
and his fucking teacher is like, albeit, you know it's

1796
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:55,560
it's probably it's coming from a good place. She's like

1797
01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:58,119
also scared and like this kid should be checked on.

1798
01:37:59,239 --> 01:38:01,880
Speaker 1: But she was told she's repeatedly to leave him alone.

1799
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:05,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, at this point she's stalking him. Yeah, And I'm like,

1800
01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:07,840
this poor kid is already dealing with a lot, and

1801
01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:10,039
now he has this teacher that won't leave him the

1802
01:38:10,119 --> 01:38:13,840
fuck alone. And he like and he's also like, Gladys

1803
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:17,039
has threatened him, I will kill your parents if anybody

1804
01:38:17,119 --> 01:38:19,560
finds out. So he's like just pleased, like I need

1805
01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:22,800
to just survive. Leave me alone. Yes, I'm like, oh

1806
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:26,600
my girl, get away from him, get a job, get

1807
01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:32,079
away from him, get a job. The Demi Levado tweets yes,

1808
01:38:32,199 --> 01:38:36,520
get a job, stay away from him truly. Yeah.

1809
01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:41,000
Speaker 1: Just a lot of boundary pushing crossing in the movie,

1810
01:38:41,119 --> 01:38:44,319
Like it has to be like a purposeful theme.

1811
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:47,640
Speaker 2: In you know when this was being made.

1812
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:50,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, those are those are my notes.

1813
01:38:54,359 --> 01:38:55,319
Speaker 2: Ten out of ten movie.

1814
01:38:56,239 --> 01:38:58,000
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, what's your rating and then you

1815
01:38:58,119 --> 01:38:59,159
said it ten.

1816
01:38:59,119 --> 01:39:02,039
Speaker 2: Out of ten? Yeah, top again, just like all the

1817
01:39:02,119 --> 01:39:06,920
bangers that have been coming out lately, so so good. Yeah, everybody,

1818
01:39:07,039 --> 01:39:08,520
I think if you haven't seen it, you need to

1819
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:13,479
go watch it. Yes, I would. I might go watch

1820
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:14,000
it again.

1821
01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:16,840
Speaker 1: Even if I thought about it. Is I think this

1822
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:18,279
weekend might be its last run?

1823
01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:18,680
Speaker 2: Okay?

1824
01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:19,119
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1825
01:39:19,199 --> 01:39:21,199
Speaker 2: Because what is it a month that they're usually there

1826
01:39:21,279 --> 01:39:23,880
or is it a month a half? I think so No,

1827
01:39:24,239 --> 01:39:24,880
I don't know either.

1828
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:27,079
Speaker 1: It's there this weekend for sure, though.

1829
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:29,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch it again somehow. If I have to

1830
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:32,359
wait for it to stream at home, I will. Oh yeah,

1831
01:39:32,560 --> 01:39:33,039
I'm waiting.

1832
01:39:33,199 --> 01:39:35,239
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for it to be streaming somewhere so I

1833
01:39:35,279 --> 01:39:38,039
can watch it. I've already watched Sinners another two more times.

1834
01:39:39,119 --> 01:39:41,920
So good, so good, and yeah, I can't wait for

1835
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:45,239
this to be streaming. I will probably look for it

1836
01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:48,439
to own the DVD as well, like it's it was

1837
01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:48,800
so good.

1838
01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:51,359
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, it's one that I want to own

1839
01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:52,800
like physical.

1840
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:57,159
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and yeah, Aiden, Thank you so much for

1841
01:39:57,359 --> 01:39:58,880
yapping with me about this movie.

1842
01:39:59,199 --> 01:40:02,239
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for having me. This was so fun,

1843
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:03,399
truly truly.

1844
01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:07,119
Speaker 1: Again, my dream is to have a movie recap podcast,

1845
01:40:07,159 --> 01:40:08,479
but I simply don't have the time.

1846
01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:12,239
Speaker 2: So this will do. This will do for now for now.

1847
01:40:12,920 --> 01:40:15,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, once a month or so, we should like

1848
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:19,439
pick a movie together and just yeah about it. We'll

1849
01:40:19,479 --> 01:40:22,399
have it for our own Patreon members, so so we

1850
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:24,920
can both post it. It'll be a blast. So let's

1851
01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:26,119
do the Substance next.

1852
01:40:26,680 --> 01:40:30,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I need to watch it. Yes, I'm so down. Okay,

1853
01:40:30,239 --> 01:40:32,239
you know what you all you let us know. And

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one of my lights went out. Glads here Yeah, anyway,

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I know I haven't here you go, I have it. Hey,

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always have a backup. I love repaired bam. But anyway,

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before glad Us interrupted me, I was gonna say, you

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all let us know in the comments if you want

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us to keep doing this together, if you want to

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see us review the Substance, because yeah, this is so

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much fun.

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Speaker 1: It was. It was, thank you, thank you, And obviously

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everyone already knows where to find you. But like at

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podcast dot com is my website that has everything on there.

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Speaker 1: Like a pro all right, and yeah, everyone else, if

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you haven't watched it, go watch the movie. Stay a spooky,

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Go follow Aiden if for some reason you don't already,

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but like we have the same listeners like yeah, so yeah,

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thank you again, Aiden, and bye bye y'all. This Book

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Tells is hosted by Christina and Carmen, produced and edited

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by Christina, researched by Christina Carmen, and with the help

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of Don shout out with Don. If you're enjoying the

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podcast considerably, going to say five star review, we would

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get your hoodies. You're gonna need them. If you don't

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just listen like you're listening now, and that's the best

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in our ad break and yeah, if you like history,

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the show notes and we appreciate every single listen. Thank

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you so much, Stay a Spooky