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Speaker 1: And welcome back to the program. Yesterday we got a

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look at the unsealed warrant from Pennsylvania, and today we're

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getting even more information from that warrant, and some of

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the items that were seized from Brian Kolberger's parents' house

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are very very interesting. Now, when this all first started

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and we heard that the person who was responsible used

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a knife to commit these murders, I said that I

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think it's a good possibility or likelihood that not only

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did he have a knife, but he probably had a

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gun as well as a backup. Right, if you're gonna

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go commit these murders, it would make sense to have

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a bit of a redundancy in place just in case

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something went south. And now that Pennsylvania has released all

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of the items, wouldn't you know one of the items

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that was seized was a gun. Now, that doesn't mean

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that he had it on his person if he is

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the man the government tells us he is when these

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murders occurred. But my guess is if that you're going

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to commit murder and you plan on using a knife

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for whatever reason, that you would have that backup plan

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of having a gun on you as well. And this

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is something that I've been convinced of forever. The fact

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that somebody would be so brazen to walk into a

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home where multiple people live and not have a firearm

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as well as that knife is kind of crazy. So

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I don't know if we'll ever get any confirmation one

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way or the other, but I find it interesting as

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hell that they were able to recover a firearm from

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Brian Coberger's parents' home. Now was it Brian Coburger's, Was

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it his father's? Did his father always have possession of it?

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If it was his father's, there's a lot of questions here,

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and obviously we're not going to get any of those

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answers because of the gag order. But now that this

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is being released, I think it's pretty significant, honestly, and

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we're learning about some other stuff that was found at

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this house as well. So let's get into this short

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article from the Daily Mail and let's get caught up

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real quick. Headline two knives, a handgun, black mask and

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black hat among sixty three items of evidence seized from

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Brian Coberger's parents' house, unsealed warrant reveals. Now, yesterday, remember

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we had a small list. It was only what six

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or seven items that they took from Brian Coberger's home.

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And like I said, then if that's all they got,

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well it's underwhelming as hell. But now that we're getting

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more information, with other parts of the warrant being unsealed,

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it seems like they had a significant haul here, folks,

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a lot more so than what they got from the

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house in Pullman. This article was authored by Jen Smith.

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The full list of items seized by Pennsylvania police from

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Brian Coberger's parents' house was revealed on Thursday and includes

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a knife, gun, ammunition, and a criminal psychology book. Coburger

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was arrested at his parents' home in all Brightsville on

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December thirtieth after driving from Idaho to Pennsylvania with his father.

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Cops tied him to the gruesome quadruple murder of four

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college kids after tracking his white Hondai to the scene.

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And the fact that they recovered a knife here, well,

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that's interesting. I don't think it's going to end up

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being the murder weapon, because I think Coburger got rid

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of that. I've said that several times. But maybe this

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dude had so much hubrits and was so confident in

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the crime that he committed that he decided to hang

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on to it. And if that's the case, and if

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the knife that they seized is the murder weapon, then

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Brian Cooberger's done for. But I certainly have my doubts

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that it's going to be the knife that was used

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in these killings. But a few of the things that

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they found were very, very interesting, and chief amongst them,

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in my opinion, was certainly the fact that they found

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a gun. And we also see here that they did

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seize a cell phone. Remember when we were talking yesterday,

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with the little preliminary knowledge that we had, we didn't

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know so if a cell phone had been seized or not.

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So it's interesting to know that they got the cell phone.

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And with them getting that cell phone, obviously they have

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access to what's on it. So we know that we

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have heard about the picture of one of the girls

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at the very least being stored on the phone. And

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could this be the genesis of that. Could one of

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the officers who look at the phone in Pennsylvania be

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the one who had that information and that information somehow

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leaked to the public. Very possible it came from somewhere, right.

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Police sees sixty three items from Coburger's parents' house, and

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they include a knife, a smith and Weston pocket knife,

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a block twenty two generation S forty caliber gun, three

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block forty caliber magazines, black face masks, black gloves, black hat,

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and the black mask. Multiple items of clothing, books, documents, bills,

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and prescriptions were also seized as part of the investor gation.

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So out of those items, a lot of them are

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pretty interesting. Right. Black face masks check. We know that

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Dylan said that the person she saw had their mouth

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and their nose covered with a face mask. We also

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know that the suspect, according to Dylan, was dressed in

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all black, so it makes sense for them to seize

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all of this black clothing as well because they don't

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know what's what. Maybe Brian Koberger is more of a

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dummy than I even thought, and he kept all these clothes.

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If that's the case, forget it. He's definitely done for

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so I doubt that he did. But if he did

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keep those clothes that he allegedly was wearing when he

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killed those four college kids, they're gonna find the DNA

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on them and they're going to be able to use

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those clothes against them. That's why I'm convinced that the

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dude burned them all, had a big ass burn pit,

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and got rid of the knife. But obviously that's all

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just my speculation. Nobody knows for sure what this dude

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was up to or even if Brian Koberger is the

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man who did this. Now I believe that he is.

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I believe that the evidence is very strong and it's

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all pointing towards him. However, until there is a conviction

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in court, we have to leave headroom for that not

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to be the case. Sometimes evidence is provided, new evidence

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is found and it will turn things right on their head.

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It doesn't happen very often, but we have to leave

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the headroom just in case. Right, I'm not one of

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these people that's just like, all right, somebody's guilty. I

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don't need to hear any more evidence, even if new

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evidence is provided that points to him not being guilty.

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There's people out there that once they get something in

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their head, they stick with it. Me. I'm an evidence

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based guy. Right wherever the evidence leads us, that's where

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we're going to go. And I think it's important that

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on that journey we collect as much information as possible

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and have as much context surrounding that information. That way,

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we're fully armed, right, we know the details, we know

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what's going on, and most importantly, we know what's going

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on behind the scenes in the court because of the

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court filings, and that's going to be the blueprint that

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leads us to victory. As far as following along with

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this case, the biggest susic I lost in terms of

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conditions eighteen plus. The host police have been watching Coburger

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for days before they raided the house in the early

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hours of December thirtieth. The twenty eight year old criminal

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psychology student is due back in court in June. He

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is yet to enter a plea. Now we know that

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he is going to enter a not guilty plea. He

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has said that, and we have heard that from his

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lawyer Labar in Pennsylvania and the Public Defender's office in

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Idaho is certainly gearing up for a very long battle,

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and a battle that is literally for Brian Coberger's life.

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Coberger is accused of stabbing Matty Mogan, Kelly Gonsalves, Zana Kernodle,

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and Ethan Chapin on November thirteenth in a savage, unexplained

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quadruple murder The off campus house where the killings took

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place is soon to be demolished. Police say they not

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only traced his card to the scene, but that they

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also matched the DNA sample to Coburgers. And when we

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hear all of this other stuff about the things that

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they seized, my guess is they have a lot more

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evidence behind the scenes than we're even aware of. And

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I think that when all is said and done, they're

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gonna have a digital profile built of Brian Kohberger that's

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going to knock your socks off. They got all of

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those digital warrants in the very beginning, remember over fifty

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warrants of a digital nature, So who knows what the

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hell they found on the computer, on the cell phone,

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and even on the firestick, because remember you can use

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that fire stick to browse the web right on your TV,

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So who the hell knows what he was doing using

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that browser. So when we're talking about the digital nature

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of the evidence that has been collected, it is my

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guess that it is strung as hell, And if they have

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that GPS evidence to go along with it, the kind

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that really puts Brian Kolberger directly at the eleven twenty

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two King Roade Home. There's going to be almost no

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way for his team to challenge that kind of data.

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The GPS data is very, very difficult for the defense

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to challenge. We're not talking about the pings off of

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a tower here. We're talking about legit GPS that can

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put you within a few feet of where you are.

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So when you're talking about that GPS data, that's a

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lot stronger than the pings coming off of the cell phone.

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And my guess is they got some of that or

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a lot of it when they had all of those

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digital warrants when this all first started. So it's going

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to be interesting as hell to see the drip of

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information that we're getting from the court as far as

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these court documents and the unsealed warrants and Affid David's

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and all of the other stuff that has been kept

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close to the vest and with a gag order in place.

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The best way to follow along with what's going on

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is to follow the court documents, and that's what we're

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going to continue to do here on the podcast. All Right, folks,

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