Speaker 1: And welcome back to the program. Yesterday we got a
look at the unsealed warrant from Pennsylvania, and today we're
getting even more information from that warrant, and some of
the items that were seized from Brian Kolberger's parents' house
are very very interesting. Now, when this all first started
and we heard that the person who was responsible used
a knife to commit these murders, I said that I
think it's a good possibility or likelihood that not only
did he have a knife, but he probably had a
gun as well as a backup. Right, if you're gonna
go commit these murders, it would make sense to have
a bit of a redundancy in place just in case
something went south. And now that Pennsylvania has released all
of the items, wouldn't you know one of the items
that was seized was a gun. Now, that doesn't mean
that he had it on his person if he is
the man the government tells us he is when these
murders occurred. But my guess is if that you're going
to commit murder and you plan on using a knife
for whatever reason, that you would have that backup plan
of having a gun on you as well. And this
is something that I've been convinced of forever. The fact
that somebody would be so brazen to walk into a
home where multiple people live and not have a firearm
as well as that knife is kind of crazy. So
I don't know if we'll ever get any confirmation one
way or the other, but I find it interesting as
hell that they were able to recover a firearm from
Brian Coberger's parents' home. Now was it Brian Coburger's, Was
it his father's? Did his father always have possession of it?
If it was his father's, there's a lot of questions here,
and obviously we're not going to get any of those
answers because of the gag order. But now that this
is being released, I think it's pretty significant, honestly, and
we're learning about some other stuff that was found at
this house as well. So let's get into this short
article from the Daily Mail and let's get caught up
real quick. Headline two knives, a handgun, black mask and
black hat among sixty three items of evidence seized from
Brian Coberger's parents' house, unsealed warrant reveals. Now, yesterday, remember
we had a small list. It was only what six
or seven items that they took from Brian Coberger's home.
And like I said, then if that's all they got,
well it's underwhelming as hell. But now that we're getting
more information, with other parts of the warrant being unsealed,
it seems like they had a significant haul here, folks,
a lot more so than what they got from the
house in Pullman. This article was authored by Jen Smith.
The full list of items seized by Pennsylvania police from
Brian Coberger's parents' house was revealed on Thursday and includes
a knife, gun, ammunition, and a criminal psychology book. Coburger
was arrested at his parents' home in all Brightsville on
December thirtieth after driving from Idaho to Pennsylvania with his father.
Cops tied him to the gruesome quadruple murder of four
college kids after tracking his white Hondai to the scene.
And the fact that they recovered a knife here, well,
that's interesting. I don't think it's going to end up
being the murder weapon, because I think Coburger got rid
of that. I've said that several times. But maybe this
dude had so much hubrits and was so confident in
the crime that he committed that he decided to hang
on to it. And if that's the case, and if
the knife that they seized is the murder weapon, then
Brian Cooberger's done for. But I certainly have my doubts
that it's going to be the knife that was used
in these killings. But a few of the things that
they found were very, very interesting, and chief amongst them,
in my opinion, was certainly the fact that they found
a gun. And we also see here that they did
seize a cell phone. Remember when we were talking yesterday,
with the little preliminary knowledge that we had, we didn't
know so if a cell phone had been seized or not.
So it's interesting to know that they got the cell phone.
And with them getting that cell phone, obviously they have
access to what's on it. So we know that we
have heard about the picture of one of the girls
at the very least being stored on the phone. And
could this be the genesis of that. Could one of
the officers who look at the phone in Pennsylvania be
the one who had that information and that information somehow
leaked to the public. Very possible it came from somewhere, right.
Police sees sixty three items from Coburger's parents' house, and
they include a knife, a smith and Weston pocket knife,
a block twenty two generation S forty caliber gun, three
block forty caliber magazines, black face masks, black gloves, black hat,
and the black mask. Multiple items of clothing, books, documents, bills,
and prescriptions were also seized as part of the investor gation.
So out of those items, a lot of them are
pretty interesting. Right. Black face masks check. We know that
Dylan said that the person she saw had their mouth
and their nose covered with a face mask. We also
know that the suspect, according to Dylan, was dressed in
all black, so it makes sense for them to seize
all of this black clothing as well because they don't
know what's what. Maybe Brian Koberger is more of a
dummy than I even thought, and he kept all these clothes.
If that's the case, forget it. He's definitely done for
so I doubt that he did. But if he did
keep those clothes that he allegedly was wearing when he
killed those four college kids, they're gonna find the DNA
on them and they're going to be able to use
those clothes against them. That's why I'm convinced that the
dude burned them all, had a big ass burn pit,
and got rid of the knife. But obviously that's all
just my speculation. Nobody knows for sure what this dude
was up to or even if Brian Koberger is the
man who did this. Now I believe that he is.
I believe that the evidence is very strong and it's
all pointing towards him. However, until there is a conviction
in court, we have to leave headroom for that not
to be the case. Sometimes evidence is provided, new evidence
is found and it will turn things right on their head.
It doesn't happen very often, but we have to leave
the headroom just in case. Right, I'm not one of
these people that's just like, all right, somebody's guilty. I
don't need to hear any more evidence, even if new
evidence is provided that points to him not being guilty.
There's people out there that once they get something in
their head, they stick with it. Me. I'm an evidence
based guy. Right wherever the evidence leads us, that's where
we're going to go. And I think it's important that
on that journey we collect as much information as possible
and have as much context surrounding that information. That way,
we're fully armed, right, we know the details, we know
what's going on, and most importantly, we know what's going
on behind the scenes in the court because of the
court filings, and that's going to be the blueprint that
leads us to victory. As far as following along with
this case, the biggest susic I lost in terms of
conditions eighteen plus. The host police have been watching Coburger
for days before they raided the house in the early
hours of December thirtieth. The twenty eight year old criminal
psychology student is due back in court in June. He
is yet to enter a plea. Now we know that
he is going to enter a not guilty plea. He
has said that, and we have heard that from his
lawyer Labar in Pennsylvania and the Public Defender's office in
Idaho is certainly gearing up for a very long battle,
and a battle that is literally for Brian Coberger's life.
Coberger is accused of stabbing Matty Mogan, Kelly Gonsalves, Zana Kernodle,
and Ethan Chapin on November thirteenth in a savage, unexplained
quadruple murder The off campus house where the killings took
place is soon to be demolished. Police say they not
only traced his card to the scene, but that they
also matched the DNA sample to Coburgers. And when we
hear all of this other stuff about the things that
they seized, my guess is they have a lot more
evidence behind the scenes than we're even aware of. And
I think that when all is said and done, they're
gonna have a digital profile built of Brian Kohberger that's
going to knock your socks off. They got all of
those digital warrants in the very beginning, remember over fifty
warrants of a digital nature, So who knows what the
hell they found on the computer, on the cell phone,
and even on the firestick, because remember you can use
that fire stick to browse the web right on your TV,
So who the hell knows what he was doing using
that browser. So when we're talking about the digital nature
of the evidence that has been collected, it is my
guess that it is strung as hell, And if they have
that GPS evidence to go along with it, the kind
that really puts Brian Kolberger directly at the eleven twenty
two King Roade Home. There's going to be almost no
way for his team to challenge that kind of data.
The GPS data is very, very difficult for the defense
to challenge. We're not talking about the pings off of
a tower here. We're talking about legit GPS that can
put you within a few feet of where you are.
So when you're talking about that GPS data, that's a
lot stronger than the pings coming off of the cell phone.
And my guess is they got some of that or
a lot of it when they had all of those
digital warrants when this all first started. So it's going
to be interesting as hell to see the drip of
information that we're getting from the court as far as
these court documents and the unsealed warrants and Affid David's
and all of the other stuff that has been kept
close to the vest and with a gag order in place.
The best way to follow along with what's going on
is to follow the court documents, and that's what we're
going to continue to do here on the podcast. All Right, folks,
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