1 00:00:21,679 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: And hello, how are you happy Tuesday to you. Today's 2 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,679 the twenty ninth day of July, year of Our Lord, 3 00:00:30,719 --> 00:00:36,000 twenty twenty five. My name is Tom Sullivan, and we've 4 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,920 got a lot to talk about today. We can start 5 00:00:39,039 --> 00:00:43,960 with the top story, obviously, was from last night, was 6 00:00:44,079 --> 00:00:47,560 the shooting not only here in New York City, but 7 00:00:48,079 --> 00:00:51,840 just a couple of blocks down the street from where 8 00:00:52,039 --> 00:00:55,479 I am, and I travel by there all the time, 9 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,240 and it happened right about the time that I'm usually 10 00:00:58,759 --> 00:01:02,799 leaving the studios, so kind of struck home. And that 11 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:08,120 was the shooting at the building on Park Avenue which 12 00:01:08,159 --> 00:01:16,079 houses KPMG accounting firm Blackstone. The NFL headquarters are there, 13 00:01:16,079 --> 00:01:19,000 and that looks like maybe that's what the guy was 14 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:24,280 looking for. So let's start off with Jessica Tish, the 15 00:01:24,599 --> 00:01:28,760 New York Police Department Commissioner, as she describes what we 16 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:29,719 downed last night. 17 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: The shooter is believed to be Shane Timora, a twenty 18 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,560 seven year old male with a Las Vegas address. The 19 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:42,120 vehicle he exited is registered in Nevada to mister Tamora. 20 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,959 Inside of that vehicle, officers found a rifle case with rounds, 21 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:52,079 a loaded revolver, ammunition in magazines, a backpack, and medication 22 00:01:52,359 --> 00:01:54,079 prescribed to mister Tamora. 23 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: She think goes on to talk about as the NYPD 24 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,599 commissioner talk about the police officer who was gunned down 25 00:02:00,719 --> 00:02:05,159 in the lobby of that building, it's he's got two 26 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,599 children and a wife. She's pregnant with a third child. 27 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:13,719 He's been with the police department for three years. And 28 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,759 one of the people that we're going to be playing 29 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,639 here talks about the fact that he normally is stationed 30 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,360 in the Bronx, in one of the highest crime districts 31 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,560 in New York City, where it's a much more dangerous beat, 32 00:02:26,599 --> 00:02:29,639 and the fact that he was working over time to 33 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,599 get some extra money to support his family on Park 34 00:02:33,719 --> 00:02:39,919 Avenue in a corporate building. What could possibly happen? Well, 35 00:02:40,319 --> 00:02:45,240 you never know, do you back to Jessica Tish the commissioner. 36 00:02:45,319 --> 00:02:47,599 Speaker 2: He was doing the job that we asked him to do. 37 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,080 He put himself in harm's way. He made the ultimate sacrifice, 38 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:57,159 shot in cold blood, wearing a uniform that stood for 39 00:02:57,199 --> 00:02:59,039 the promise that he made to this city. 40 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: The commissioner mention that the shooter in this case is 41 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:07,800 from Nevada. He drove across the country in like two 42 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,360 and a half days. I've driven that route. I was 43 00:03:12,199 --> 00:03:14,240 a little above the speed limit sometimes and I did 44 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,120 it in four So this guy must have been awake 45 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,400 on something to keep him going to get there. But 46 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:26,159 he drove from Las Vegas to New York City directly 47 00:03:26,199 --> 00:03:29,680 to this building and got out, double parked his car, 48 00:03:29,879 --> 00:03:33,639 got out, abandoned the car on Park Avenue, and walked 49 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,800 calmly into the building and started shooting the fact that 50 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,199 he's from Nevada also brings up the fact. So this 51 00:03:40,319 --> 00:03:44,680 shooting last night here in New York City, you have 52 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:52,800 five dead, including the shooter. In Nevada. On Monday, Monday morning, 53 00:03:52,879 --> 00:03:55,759 at seven twenty five in the morning, outside of one 54 00:03:55,759 --> 00:03:59,360 of the big casinos in Reno, Nevada, you had another 55 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:04,199 random shooting. A guy comes up into the valley area 56 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,840 in front of the Grand Sierra Resort and just started 57 00:04:07,879 --> 00:04:11,319 shooting people. Three are dead there and two are in 58 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,280 critical condition. So it doesn't matter whether you're in Reno, 59 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,360 Nevada or in New York City. Or there's a couple 60 00:04:18,399 --> 00:04:21,720 who was hiking with their kids in an Arkansas state 61 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:26,480 park that were killed. So it's this randomness that you 62 00:04:26,639 --> 00:04:29,439 just don't know where it's going to happen. So this guy, 63 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,199 this twenty seven year old drove from Nevada, got to 64 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,519 the building, went in, started shooting people right away in 65 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,240 the lobby, then went to the elevator bank. How he 66 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,839 got there. This brings up a whole question about building 67 00:04:42,879 --> 00:04:46,839 security in New York because most buildings have very tight security. 68 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,519 He went to the wrong elevator bank and wound up 69 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,519 on the thirty third floor. In his pocket he had 70 00:04:53,959 --> 00:04:58,279 a three page handwritten letter about the fact that he 71 00:04:58,399 --> 00:05:02,040 was convinced that he was a high school football player 72 00:05:02,079 --> 00:05:06,879 in southern California that from those concussions, those head hits 73 00:05:07,319 --> 00:05:11,120 that he has CTE. And we'll check in with a 74 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,480 doctor on the whole business about CTE, which I want 75 00:05:14,519 --> 00:05:17,360 to explore as well. So there's a lot to go 76 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:24,160 over here with this. Here's the Mayor Eric Adams talking 77 00:05:24,199 --> 00:05:24,600 about it. 78 00:05:24,959 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 3: He alluded to having CTE from playing in the NFL. 79 00:05:30,639 --> 00:05:34,560 He never played in the NFL. With going through the 80 00:05:34,639 --> 00:05:39,120 suicide note to a zero in on the exact reason, 81 00:05:39,199 --> 00:05:42,000 but at this time it appears as though something that 82 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:46,120 is attached to his belief he experienced cte from playing 83 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:46,800 in the NFL. 84 00:05:47,639 --> 00:05:50,879 Speaker 1: So no, he never played for the NFL, but he 85 00:05:51,199 --> 00:05:54,439 looked like that's what he was targeting. The NFL is 86 00:05:54,480 --> 00:06:00,000 headquartered in this particular building. Paul Morrow, former nybt PDE lieutenant, 87 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,000 also has these observations. 88 00:06:03,519 --> 00:06:06,399 Speaker 4: Okay, so Alexis has the basic facts accurately. He drove 89 00:06:06,639 --> 00:06:10,160 from Las Vegas a couple of days straight. Maybe he 90 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,680 stopped along the way, maybe not. He got here awfully quickly, 91 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,240 so it looks like he managed to stay up a 92 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,000 lot of that time. There where drugs in the car. 93 00:06:16,319 --> 00:06:18,560 Maybe he took something to keep himself awake. According to 94 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,920 my reporting that I'm receiving, it's two drugs that he 95 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,240 had in the car, look like prescription drugs. He also 96 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,480 may have had some marijuana. Weed these days is very 97 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,759 very powerful. Some people's are a comment on his demeanor 98 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,279 as he walked up that block, he walked into the lobby, 99 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,360 he seemed to be maybe very determined, very focused, So 100 00:06:36,399 --> 00:06:38,759 there may have been some narcotics there. He had two 101 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,319 mental health incidents in Nevada, that's gonna matter. He had 102 00:06:42,319 --> 00:06:44,120 another gun in the car, as she mentioned it to 103 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,720 three point fifty seven, A big gun. Why he doesn't 104 00:06:46,759 --> 00:06:50,000 bring that gun in with him and then commits suicide 105 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,759 with a long gun is a very difficult enterprise, So 106 00:06:53,879 --> 00:06:57,959 that's a question we wonder about that. His CTE situation, though, 107 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,680 is what's emerging, at least in his mind as the motive, 108 00:07:00,759 --> 00:07:03,120 and I think that's the scient aspect of things. He 109 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:07,439 apparently believed that and blamed the NFL for covering up 110 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,439 the idea that the hits that you take to the 111 00:07:10,519 --> 00:07:15,160 head from playing football can cause CTE. He believes he 112 00:07:15,199 --> 00:07:18,199 suffered from CTE. He seems to have known he was 113 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:22,519 going to die because he wanted the doctors to quote unquote, 114 00:07:22,519 --> 00:07:25,680 to study his brain. And it seems like there was 115 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,399 a particular thing that he watched, a documentary of some 116 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,360 sort that triggered this idea in him that the NFL 117 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,839 is to blame, and he goes to that building, I 118 00:07:34,839 --> 00:07:37,600 guess seeking out the NFL. One last thing I would 119 00:07:37,639 --> 00:07:39,240 say is about it. There's a lot of questions about 120 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,079 why he went to the thirty third floor. The NFL 121 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,720 wasn't even on that floor. Could be he just botched up, 122 00:07:44,279 --> 00:07:46,480 But also my understanding is on that floor there were 123 00:07:46,519 --> 00:07:49,839 a lot of administrative offices for the various enterprises that 124 00:07:49,959 --> 00:07:52,519 exist in that building, So he may have been thinking 125 00:07:52,879 --> 00:07:55,519 he was going to sort of the executive suite, that 126 00:07:55,639 --> 00:07:56,079 kind of thing. 127 00:07:56,319 --> 00:08:00,199 Speaker 1: Paul was also asked about the way it works with 128 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,519 the NYPD. How this officer was in uniform in the 129 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,959 lobby of this building working overtime. 130 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a heartbreaking thing. So cops very often 131 00:08:09,439 --> 00:08:12,279 have to supplement their income, especially early in their careers. 132 00:08:12,319 --> 00:08:14,439 And so at one point the police department tweaked to 133 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,519 the fact that a lot of police would be working 134 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,439 at bars restaurants outside off duty, and it created some 135 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,399 messy situations because they have to take police action. And 136 00:08:23,439 --> 00:08:26,199 the question became, now will the city indemnify them for 137 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:27,959 the fact that they were working as a bouncer. 138 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:28,439 Speaker 5: Let's say. 139 00:08:28,839 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 4: So, what they put in place is I think called 140 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,320 the paid detail. It allows the cops to wear the uniform, 141 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,840 which is the key, and they can go and work 142 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,440 under indemnification as uniform cops, but it's off duty, just 143 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,919 to make some extra money. Here's a cop, he's got 144 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,399 two kids, he's got another one on the way, his 145 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,039 wife's pregnant, and so he's trying to supplement his income 146 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:52,639 off duty doing paid detail standing in a lobby here, 147 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,120 and this was what he gets for. 148 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,519 Speaker 1: And here's an eyewitness who was just going home last 149 00:08:58,600 --> 00:08:59,799 night and got caught up in the middle of his 150 00:09:00,039 --> 00:09:00,559 whole thing. 151 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 6: Walking home, going to Grand Central to take the train home, 152 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,360 and about six twenty and all of a sudden, I 153 00:09:07,399 --> 00:09:10,519 had headphones on, and all of a sudden, there's a 154 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,600 rush of people running past me, and more so than 155 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,840 just a couple of people. So I took my headphones off, 156 00:09:15,879 --> 00:09:19,039 and somebody said gunshots shooting. The police had their guns 157 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,200 drawn for a long time. I did hear a few gunshots, 158 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,879 and then officers started flooding the area. 159 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,799 Speaker 1: You hear what he said. He had his headphones on 160 00:09:28,879 --> 00:09:30,440 and he didn't hear anything, and then all of a 161 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,840 sudden saw the people in the commotion, and he took 162 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,919 his headphones off and heard the gunshots. There's a professor 163 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,039 that over at NYU. That's a lot of professor was 164 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,720 talking about when if you look at people today, they're 165 00:09:41,759 --> 00:09:45,320 walking around with their with their eyes focused in on 166 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,399 their on their phones. They're looking at that or in 167 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,919 this ty's case, he had headphones on. They're not listening 168 00:09:52,039 --> 00:09:56,320 or paying attention to anything going around going on around them, 169 00:09:56,799 --> 00:09:58,600 and and that is why people say, well, how did 170 00:09:58,639 --> 00:10:01,240 this guy had this long gun just casually walk into 171 00:10:01,279 --> 00:10:04,120 this building. Well, it wasn't that far. He double parked 172 00:10:04,159 --> 00:10:07,840 on Park Avenue. He probably had I don't know, one 173 00:10:07,919 --> 00:10:11,480 hundred feet two hundred feet to go through the entrants 174 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,519 until he got to the front doors of the building. 175 00:10:14,039 --> 00:10:17,039 And people weren't paying any attention. They don't look at 176 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,440 each other, they're looking at their phones or they're listening 177 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:21,879 to their headphones. 178 00:10:22,519 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 5: Well, broadly speaking, security in our high rise buildings tends 179 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:32,919 to be effective. It's effective in its execution of its purpose. 180 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:37,200 The purpose of security is to challenge people who enter 181 00:10:37,279 --> 00:10:42,919 the building and to assist the occupants of the building 182 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:47,000 and evacuating building and keeping them safe from all types 183 00:10:47,039 --> 00:10:50,600 of hazards. The purpose of security in a building is 184 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:56,039 actually not to confront armed folks who enter the building. 185 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,519 They are just not enough people available with that type 186 00:10:59,519 --> 00:11:02,360 of training and who are licensed to carry firearms to 187 00:11:02,399 --> 00:11:06,159 go around. What's also interesting you mentioned the photo. A 188 00:11:06,159 --> 00:11:09,440 good friend of mine who is also a retired police officer, 189 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,440 just mentioned to me, think about how many New Yorkers 190 00:11:12,519 --> 00:11:16,399 bury their heads in their cell phones you know, there's 191 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,759 a question of how is he able to just walk 192 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,440 so freely into the building and no one said anything. Well, 193 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,799 next time you go outside, look at how many folks 194 00:11:23,799 --> 00:11:26,639 are just looking at their phones, at text messages and 195 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:31,200 emails and so forth, and not necessarily pay attention, paying 196 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,879 attention to their surroundings. But I don't think we have 197 00:11:34,279 --> 00:11:40,279 necessarily an issue with security in our high rise buildings. Yeah. 198 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: That was Burke Halter, who is a former NYPD He 199 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:51,919 teaches now over at NYU. John Miller, former NYPD guy, 200 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,320 counterintelligence guy. This is what he had to say. 201 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 7: So what we have with the gunman is we've got 202 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,799 the beginning of his life, born in California's time in Hawaii, 203 00:12:04,639 --> 00:12:09,639 comes back to California, living in Las Vegas. But the 204 00:12:09,639 --> 00:12:12,480 beginning is all about football. I mean, when you go 205 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:17,480 into his social media, he is reliving his junior varsity 206 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:22,000 high school career, his football player of the game, you know, 207 00:12:22,159 --> 00:12:25,399 player of the month. That seemed to be a very 208 00:12:25,399 --> 00:12:28,120 big part of his life. We know the end of 209 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,440 the story, we're missing the middle. We know he worked 210 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,519 as a security guard. We know he got a security 211 00:12:34,519 --> 00:12:37,919 guard license in California, that he had a security job 212 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,799 in Las Vegas, that he got a private investigator's license, 213 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,720 that he obtained a concealed carry permit, so we know 214 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,919 he was trying to find his way in the security business. 215 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:53,799 But somewhere between the beginning, which was all about football, 216 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,200 and the end, which was all about his perception that 217 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,600 in injury he thinks he may have received during his 218 00:13:01,639 --> 00:13:06,000 childhood football career, was the animist that brought him to 219 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,960 the NFL building and ended up in the wrong office, 220 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:15,279 killing innocent people and wounding others as he went. We 221 00:13:15,399 --> 00:13:19,080 still have some to fill in. Really today the story 222 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:23,039 will shift to the victims. You have that Blackstone employee, 223 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,080 a serious loss to a company that occupied so much 224 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,759 of that building. You have a woman who worked for 225 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,440 Rudent Management who apparently was executed as he came into 226 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,720 the offices when he got off at that thirty third 227 00:13:35,759 --> 00:13:39,039 floor before he went down the floor and killed himself. 228 00:13:39,519 --> 00:13:41,840 You have, of course, the story of the police officer. 229 00:13:42,399 --> 00:13:45,600 And think about this, three and a half years on 230 00:13:45,639 --> 00:13:48,440 the job. He's in the forty seventh precinct, that is 231 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,879 a very busy and sometimes very dangerous precinct in the 232 00:13:51,919 --> 00:13:55,360 bra and the fact that working a day off on 233 00:13:55,399 --> 00:13:59,240 a paid security detail in a Park Avenue lobby. I 234 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:03,000 guarantee that was the safest thing he did all week. 235 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,840 What could possibly go on in the lobby of a 236 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,399 Park Avenue tower that's you know, headquarters to Corporate America. 237 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,480 But this is part of being a police officer, which 238 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,759 is anything can happen anywhere, anytime, anyhow. And he was 239 00:14:17,759 --> 00:14:21,320 caught in that terrible moment, you know, which is a 240 00:14:21,399 --> 00:14:22,080 real loss. 241 00:14:22,519 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: Juliet KM used to be with the FBI. She has 242 00:14:28,039 --> 00:14:29,639 this to say so, and. 243 00:14:29,559 --> 00:14:32,879 Speaker 8: This is all the questions that one has to ask 244 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:37,120 so that these buildings are better fortified, not simply that 245 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,200 there's blame or necessarily blame one. I was surprised how 246 00:14:41,279 --> 00:14:45,600 little perimeter security there seemed to be as you're as 247 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,679 he's heading into that office. Of course, we always recognize 248 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,120 that there's the security guards at the at the at 249 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,039 the door or inside the door, because they're taking your 250 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,440 driver's license before you can get into the elevator bank. 251 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,720 But if he's breached that already, then of course there's 252 00:14:59,759 --> 00:15:05,320 almost there's no ability to stop him once because he 253 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,919 got on the elevator bank. In fact, the fact that 254 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:12,919 he committed suicide is honestly fortuitous, because we don't know 255 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,080 how easily it would have been for him to just 256 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,360 get onto a stairwell go to the thirty second floor, 257 00:15:18,399 --> 00:15:21,080 thirty first floor. So that's what we look at. And 258 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,519 as John said, also the car factor. We leave a car, generally, 259 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,879 we all have experienced that there's a lot of police 260 00:15:27,919 --> 00:15:32,480 presence that surrounds you. The second is, of course the 261 00:15:32,519 --> 00:15:35,320 potential target. We're going to be very careful here. He 262 00:15:35,559 --> 00:15:42,279 self describes as something related to CTE And obviously the 263 00:15:42,399 --> 00:15:45,320 NFL is in this building, so people investigators are putting 264 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,600 two and two together if that was the target. In 265 00:15:48,639 --> 00:15:52,320 this way, it's a little bit like United Health. I mean, 266 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,919 in the sense that someone has a grievance and is 267 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,360 going after a corporate target. We don't know who the 268 00:15:59,399 --> 00:16:03,000 target was at the NFL, but this is something that 269 00:16:03,039 --> 00:16:09,240 has been scaring corporate enemies and institutions for that matter, 270 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,080 in terms of the kind of violence that they can 271 00:16:12,159 --> 00:16:16,600 face directly for a harm that people perceive is exacerbated 272 00:16:16,679 --> 00:16:17,919 by that company. 273 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:23,039 Speaker 1: I get her associating the shooting with the United Health shooting. 274 00:16:23,799 --> 00:16:26,399 The CEO that was shot down outside the Hilton Hotel 275 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:31,240 back in December. That was a particular executive who was targeted, 276 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,200 and Luigi waited and did all of his homework to 277 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:36,960 find out where he would be and when he would 278 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:41,000 be there. This is different. He was shooting at innocent 279 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,960 civilians in the lobby that had nothing to do with 280 00:16:45,039 --> 00:16:48,039 the NFL. If he was going to go try to 281 00:16:48,159 --> 00:16:50,919 get mad at the NFL, he first of all didn't 282 00:16:50,919 --> 00:16:54,919 get to their floors. Secondly, he's just started killing people 283 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,960 that had nothing to do with them. So no, this 284 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,120 is a cold blooded killer. That's with this whole thing. 285 00:17:01,399 --> 00:17:05,799 Chris Swecker, former assistant director of the FBI. He also 286 00:17:05,839 --> 00:17:09,079 when he retired, he became the head of security for 287 00:17:09,279 --> 00:17:13,039 all a Bank of America, has some interesting comments to 288 00:17:13,079 --> 00:17:13,640 make as well. 289 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, each each individual building has their own security, 290 00:17:18,559 --> 00:17:21,200 and then of course the NYPD has responsibility for the 291 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,960 streets and and and just overall policing. Having been the 292 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,680 head of security for Bank of America and also being 293 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,839 a I was on a board of a Blackstone owned 294 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:35,880 company and attended many meetings there. My theory is that he, 295 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,200 you know, he blew. He was expecting more resistance and 296 00:17:39,279 --> 00:17:42,039 he didn't get any. You know, he before he got 297 00:17:42,039 --> 00:17:45,319 into the building. You know, we we eliminated bank robberies 298 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:49,279 almost virtually eliminated bank robberies by putting security outside the 299 00:17:49,319 --> 00:17:52,799 building where where they're visible and they're deterrent and they 300 00:17:52,839 --> 00:17:55,839 can actually protect people from in, you know, inside and 301 00:17:55,839 --> 00:17:58,599 and act as up a buffer before a bad guy 302 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,960 with bad intentions can get in side of building. Not 303 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:05,519 armshair quarterbacking here, but I you know, the security is 304 00:18:05,559 --> 00:18:09,200 going to be effective. They can be inside a building 305 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,400 because that by the time a shooter gets inside a building, 306 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,400 they're already committed. But if they see an officer outside, 307 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,680 they can either you know, act as that buffer, or 308 00:18:17,759 --> 00:18:20,920 they will not. They'll go go back to their car. 309 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:22,960 You know, he wanted to get into that building. If 310 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,480 he saw more resistance, he may have backed away. Yeah, 311 00:18:25,519 --> 00:18:28,480 I mean that that particular plaza has a has a 312 00:18:28,519 --> 00:18:32,640 recessed fountain there that covers a lot of the big 313 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:37,519 part of the plaza. And after nine to eleven, ballards 314 00:18:37,559 --> 00:18:40,480 went up everywhere in the city in front of in 315 00:18:40,519 --> 00:18:43,960 front of these buildings. But ballards would not have stopped him. 316 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,960 He's on foot. I go back again to there's there's 317 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,160 two things that you can get in, you know, when 318 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,839 he watch starts talking about prevention and the terms one 319 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,759 is red flags people that know him and and well 320 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,000 if they see bizarre behavior and this type of intention 321 00:19:00,079 --> 00:19:03,799 and they report it too. Is again a visible security 322 00:19:03,799 --> 00:19:06,839 guard outside the premises. You see a Bank of America 323 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,359 branch right there as well. 324 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 5: I'm surprised there. 325 00:19:09,039 --> 00:19:11,799 Speaker 9: Wasn't a security guard outside the bank because that's the 326 00:19:11,799 --> 00:19:14,240 way we left it. When I left Bank of America, 327 00:19:14,519 --> 00:19:16,880 was any high risk branch was going to have an 328 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,720 armed security guard outside. If they're inside, there are no 329 00:19:20,839 --> 00:19:24,759 deterrence and they're they're really not that effective. No disrespect 330 00:19:24,799 --> 00:19:28,039 to anyone inside that building. They were ambushed, they never 331 00:19:28,079 --> 00:19:32,319 saw it coming and their heroes. But in this case, 332 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,599 this is about corporate security and private security and how 333 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,759 they work with the police department. Police are on the streets. 334 00:19:40,599 --> 00:19:42,000 You know, they're not going to stand in front of 335 00:19:42,039 --> 00:19:45,599 every building. They just can't be everywhere. So corporate security 336 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,519 has a responsibility and building managers have a responsibility to 337 00:19:48,519 --> 00:19:51,240 put a security guard outside the building. 338 00:19:51,599 --> 00:19:55,079 Speaker 1: So none of these people are coming out explicitly insane it. 339 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,599 But it's pretty clear. You listen between the lines and 340 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:02,680 you'll hear them basically say this building was not adequately protected. 341 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,559 And most of the high rises in New York City, 342 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,119 especially in Midtown, but all through the city, they have 343 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,319 lots that we have probably I go through maybe five 344 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:19,200 or six security layers to get to this studio every day. 345 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:24,200 We have some uniform officers outside. I presume they're off 346 00:20:24,279 --> 00:20:28,000 duty being paid like this officer was. We have undercover 347 00:20:28,079 --> 00:20:33,440 officers in the lobby. We have doors you can't get 348 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,559 through without getting without having a card. You can't get 349 00:20:37,599 --> 00:20:41,000 on the elevators without having a card, you can't get 350 00:20:41,039 --> 00:20:43,960 off the floor where you want to go without having 351 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,400 a car. Goes on and on and on. So I 352 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,039 don't know what they were thinking about regarding this building, 353 00:20:51,079 --> 00:20:53,359 but I think what I heard from all of this 354 00:20:53,640 --> 00:21:01,960 was he really the building wasn't all that secure. Twenty 355 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:08,359 four NYPD killed since nine to eleven. It's a dangerous 356 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:13,759 job the clients in the building. Like I said, KPMG 357 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,119 is at one of the big accounting firms in the nation, Blackstone, 358 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,279 one of the big investment firms. A young woman that 359 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,720 works there who is the head of their real estate portfolios. 360 00:21:23,799 --> 00:21:27,759 She was killed. Was just she came off the elevator 361 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,240 into the lobby. She was going to go meet a 362 00:21:31,279 --> 00:21:35,319 friend to go have a drink after work, and she 363 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,480 got off the elevator and he killed her. Another elevator 364 00:21:39,519 --> 00:21:41,680 opened up that he got on. He got on the 365 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,920 wrong elevator bank and there was a woman walking off 366 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,160 of that elevator that he just walked by, got on 367 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,200 the elevator, didn't do anything to her. So he wasn't 368 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:57,359 of sound mind to say the very least. So again, 369 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,359 it's like I said. In Reno, Nevada, they had the 370 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,480 shooting in front of the seven twenty five in the morning, 371 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,079 in front of the Grand what is it called, Grand 372 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:12,400 Sierra Resort. Three dead, two in critical condition. You've got 373 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,079 the couple hiking with their children in Arkansas State Park 374 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:22,920 who were killed. So life is fragile. That's all this 375 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:29,720 stuff really comes down to. Since we're talking about terrible things, 376 00:22:30,079 --> 00:22:36,759 let's go to Gaza. Because the story that is changing 377 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,200 the hearts of a lot of people in this country 378 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,039 is the story of people starving. And when you see, 379 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:49,440 especially children starving, it touches the hearts of many, many people. 380 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:56,680 So the attitude about letting aid get into the starving 381 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:03,240 people of Gaza has changed policy and President Trump has 382 00:23:03,319 --> 00:23:06,480 taken a completely different look at this from what the 383 00:23:06,559 --> 00:23:09,640 bb net and Yahoo was doing, and so aid is 384 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:14,000 the now starting to flow in. Harry Enton did some 385 00:23:14,079 --> 00:23:16,200 polling about this exact topic. 386 00:23:16,599 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, Benjamin Net and Yahoo. If you look 387 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,680 at polling in the United States, he has lost in 388 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,480 the court of public opinion. I want you to take 389 00:23:23,519 --> 00:23:26,000 a look here at his net favorable rating. It is 390 00:23:26,039 --> 00:23:28,200 the lowest on record according to Gallup, and they have 391 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,759 records going all the way back since the nineteen nineties. 392 00:23:30,799 --> 00:23:32,559 What are we talking about here, Well, on in April of 393 00:23:32,559 --> 00:23:36,759 twenty nineteen, before obviously Israel in Gaza in the latest 394 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:37,599 war that's. 395 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,039 Speaker 5: Been going on for a long time. Benjamin N. 396 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,599 Speaker 10: Yah, who was on the positive side at plus thirteen points, 397 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,680 Look at where he is today minus twenty three points. 398 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,599 My goodness, gracious you look at those under the age 399 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,319 of thirty five. His Net favrile rating at this point, 400 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:55,759 get this, fifty three points under water, my god. And 401 00:23:55,799 --> 00:23:59,519 this of course has everything to do with Israel's actions 402 00:23:59,559 --> 00:24:02,599 in Gaza. The American people at this particular point not 403 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,279 exactly liking what they're seeing, and they believe that Benjamin 404 00:24:05,319 --> 00:24:07,720 D and Yahoo is in large part responsibile. Yeah, so 405 00:24:07,799 --> 00:24:10,119 let's take a look at this, I mean net approval 406 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,599 Israel's military acts in Gazi. You go back to November 407 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,720 of twenty twenty three, so on the positive side of the 408 00:24:14,759 --> 00:24:15,799 ledger plus five points. 409 00:24:15,799 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 5: I bet if you can go back a little bit further, 410 00:24:17,279 --> 00:24:18,000 be a little bit higher. 411 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 10: But gallup only measured in November of twenty twenty three 412 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:21,920 at plus five points. Look at here where we are 413 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,599 in July of twenty twenty five, way down there at 414 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,480 minus twenty eight points among those under the age of 415 00:24:27,519 --> 00:24:32,119 thirty five. Get this a negative seventy three point net 416 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:32,680 approval rating. 417 00:24:32,759 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 5: This is all being led. 418 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 10: All the negative opinions towards Israel's and their acts in 419 00:24:37,039 --> 00:24:39,440 Guys are being led by the younger folks in the 420 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,400 electra negative seventy three points and then approver rating. You 421 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,279 rarely ever see numbers dow low, and that is charging 422 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,640 up this number twenty eight points underwater the net approval 423 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,400 rating of Israel's military acts in Gods of the American 424 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,200 people do not like what they're seeing and increasingly dislike 425 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,559 what they're seeing. So you know, for the longest period 426 00:24:56,599 --> 00:24:59,880 of time Americans have sympathized more with the Israelis than 427 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,640 the Palaestinians. That's still the case, but it's only by 428 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,759 plus five. You go back to May of twenty twenty four, 429 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,519 was plus seventeen. Right after October seventh, look at this 430 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,319 was plus forty in twenty seventeen, it was plus thirty 431 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,920 nine points. That is a dramatic drop, that is what 432 00:25:13,039 --> 00:25:15,519 is that a forty three point drop since the aftermath 433 00:25:15,759 --> 00:25:18,359 of October seventh and again under the age of fifty 434 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,680 you look at those younger voters, it was plus thirty eight. 435 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,599 Israelis back all the way back in twenty seventeen. You 436 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,400 look now it is plus nineteen Palestinians. There has simply 437 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,440 put been a complete change of opinion on this topic, 438 00:25:29,599 --> 00:25:31,759 and it has been at least driven in large part 439 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,920 by how Americans view the military actions of Israel and. 440 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: God, yeah, all the photos of starving people in videos. 441 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,519 People don't like that. It's a bad look. Brett McGirk 442 00:25:43,799 --> 00:25:46,839 has served for presidents and covered this the Middle East 443 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:51,079 and North Africa, and this is his take on the 444 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,759 diplomatic argument regarding Gaza. 445 00:25:56,039 --> 00:25:58,079 Speaker 11: First, I think the president's right to say that, and 446 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,839 I think it's right to just call out exactly what's happening. 447 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,000 But this is a shift in the US policy because 448 00:26:04,039 --> 00:26:06,440 if you go back the last six months, the Trump 449 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,920 administration kind of enabled a lot of things the Israelis 450 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,680 did that. When I was working on this file, we 451 00:26:12,759 --> 00:26:15,640 simply did not permit. There was a ten week siege 452 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,640 almost seventy seven days, a total blockade of Israel of 453 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,240 Gaza by Israel, which really led to this cataclysmic set 454 00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:26,160 of events. And what has happened now, clearly the US 455 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,480 has put pressure on Israel to make sure that UN 456 00:26:29,519 --> 00:26:33,079 provided aid is getting back in there with localized cease fires. 457 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,920 That has to happen. I have to say, when every 458 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,599 morning at seven point thirty, no matter what else was 459 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,880 happening in this crisis, we had a call on the 460 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,240 humanitarian situation and the aid situation. We as senior coordinator 461 00:26:45,279 --> 00:26:47,640 at the State Department, worked this every single day. We 462 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,000 had experts from USAID working this every single day. Where 463 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,920 there was a problem or bottleneck, we would try to 464 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,720 resolve it. Often Israel and the UN disagree, We try 465 00:26:55,759 --> 00:26:58,160 to come in try to resolve It's hard. I'm not 466 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,680 saying that record is perfect and focus. The Trump administration 467 00:27:01,759 --> 00:27:05,160 got rid of that senior coordinator position. They abolish USAID 468 00:27:05,559 --> 00:27:07,440 and you really just kind of lost the attention and 469 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,720 focus on this. That's returning now. That's important because to 470 00:27:10,759 --> 00:27:13,279 your question, no matter what happens in the talks, the 471 00:27:13,319 --> 00:27:16,400 aid has to flow. That's non negotiable. The aid has 472 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,000 to flow. And then you try to get back to 473 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,599 the ceasefire talks. We have to get the ceasefire in place, 474 00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:26,960 and it was close. Hamas hardness demands you got to 475 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,720 stay at it. Hamas is the main obstacle to a 476 00:27:29,759 --> 00:27:30,480 ceasefire deal. 477 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 5: Again. 478 00:27:31,279 --> 00:27:33,559 Speaker 11: We just saw that again last week. Everybody thought we're 479 00:27:33,559 --> 00:27:36,759 moving towards a deal. I'm told my understanding, the HAMAS 480 00:27:36,839 --> 00:27:39,559 leadership in Doha was ready to accept a deal, and 481 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,920 the guys in Gaza said no. The guys holding the 482 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,279 hostages said no, let's harden our positions. So Hamas is 483 00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:50,039 the obstacle to a deal. Second, Hamas does benefit directly 484 00:27:50,079 --> 00:27:52,240 in some ways and indirectly from the flow of aid, 485 00:27:53,079 --> 00:27:55,759 None of that matters. You have to get aid flowing 486 00:27:55,799 --> 00:27:58,359 because if you don't, what happens is you play into 487 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,359 the hands of Hamas. All attention now and that polling 488 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,519 that was just showed by John. It's all focused now 489 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,039 is on Israel and not on Hamas. So this has 490 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:14,400 been a real catastrophic decision. That blockade earlier this year, 491 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,759 it was a mistake. It's being fixed on the talks. 492 00:28:18,079 --> 00:28:21,880 You need a concerted international effort to try to get 493 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,200 this done. And who has influenced over Hamas. It's Cutter, 494 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,759 It's Egypt, it's Turkey. I read this morning Hamas leaders 495 00:28:28,759 --> 00:28:30,680 are on their way to Turkey. I hope we're talking 496 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:35,480 to President Erdawan. Hamas. Accept this deal, get the cease fireplace, 497 00:28:35,799 --> 00:28:38,160 get relief to the people of Gaza. That is the 498 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,359 fastest way out of this. And you just got to 499 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,359 stay at it and try to get this done every 500 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:44,680 single day. 501 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,079 Speaker 1: Since we're talking about the world, there's some other world 502 00:28:48,119 --> 00:28:51,759 news here today. First of all, Secretary Scott Bessant and 503 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,720 Jamis and Greer, who are the We're over in Stockholm, 504 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,839 Sweden talking to China about a deal about trade. And 505 00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:03,039 when they came out of that, there was two reporting. 506 00:29:03,119 --> 00:29:06,200 One was that they concluded the meeting without a deal. 507 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,799 It sounded very negative. But late this afternoon President Trump 508 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,079 said that he talked to Scott Bessant, and that Besont 509 00:29:14,079 --> 00:29:18,440 felt good about the meeting and that they're now talking 510 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:26,000 about extending the deadline for China trade talks. Meantime, another deadline. 511 00:29:26,759 --> 00:29:29,759 Donald Trump gave Russia fifty days to come up with 512 00:29:29,799 --> 00:29:34,640 a ceasefire regarding Ukraine. Today you can tell the president's frustrated. 513 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,880 He changed it and he said, no, ten days. I'll 514 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,240 give him ten days until we lower the boom with 515 00:29:42,319 --> 00:29:48,440 sanctions in tariffs. So we'll see what Russia does about this. 516 00:29:48,559 --> 00:29:52,519 But now we're down to a ten day window for 517 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:58,160 Russia to respond. Jack Keene, these are his thoughts about Russia. 518 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 12: Well, first of all, he's still attempting to have some 519 00:30:02,039 --> 00:30:04,920 kind of a diplomatic solution here, and that he didn't 520 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,759 shut it completely down, which obviously he could have, and 521 00:30:07,799 --> 00:30:10,440 he could have initially, and when he made the major 522 00:30:10,519 --> 00:30:13,559 policy turnaround, which I think is starting to give up 523 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,200 on a diplomatic effort and willing to confront Rusher. And 524 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,839 that's what he's doing by providing military equipment to Ukraine. 525 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,160 And those of us have been looking at this for 526 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,720 a long time solely applaud that effort is something that's 527 00:30:25,759 --> 00:30:29,799 really necessary, and now we have sanctions and potential tariffs, 528 00:30:29,799 --> 00:30:33,079 and he's given them still a window here to come 529 00:30:33,119 --> 00:30:35,400 to the table. But I think you know where the 530 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,160 president is at that time. If Putin doesn't respond, and 531 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,240 I suspect he will not, then we're going to see 532 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,200 the tariffs and the sanctions, and that'll be a departure 533 00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:48,880 from the diplomatic effort and is underlining the fact that 534 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,880 he's now wanting to confront Putin. And I think Putin 535 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,759 has miscalculated a little bit here. I think he really 536 00:30:54,799 --> 00:30:57,039 believed that he was going to frustrate the President quite 537 00:30:57,039 --> 00:30:59,559 a bit by delaying everything, and after all, we're already 538 00:30:59,559 --> 00:31:02,200 looking for the thirty day cease fire and he's will 539 00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:08,599 except unconditional, and he did frustrate the President quite a bit, 540 00:31:09,359 --> 00:31:13,000 But the President didn't walk away from supporting Ukraine, which 541 00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:16,119 is what Putin was hoping would take place. I didn't 542 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,039 think he knew for a fact what would take place, 543 00:31:18,079 --> 00:31:20,119 but he was hoping for that outcome. It didn't happen, 544 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,440 So we have a major shift here to support Ukraine 545 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,640 and their objectives. I think that's very positive on a 546 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,359 part of the president. The patients he's shown here and 547 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,799 putting up with Putin's bluster, and you know, he's a 548 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:39,440 skilled liar, He's a trained KGB agent who uses lies 549 00:31:40,119 --> 00:31:44,279 to change behavior. And I think he's had significant influence 550 00:31:44,319 --> 00:31:46,559 over every president he's had to work with in his 551 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,759 twenty five years. That's a bit of an IOU, you know, 552 00:31:49,839 --> 00:31:52,960 in terms of the five percent defense, in terms of 553 00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:58,039 their commitment to purchase weapons from the United States and 554 00:31:58,079 --> 00:32:02,079 provide them with Ukraine. Out of my mind about that happening. 555 00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:04,960 And at the Rome meeting, which took place a week 556 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,960 to ten days ago, our US representatives were at that 557 00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:12,160 meeting were pleasantly surprised by the Europeans commitment to Ukraine, 558 00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:15,039 and they said, it's not a matter of money. We 559 00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:17,480 have the money. We are all in here. We're going 560 00:32:17,519 --> 00:32:21,519 to provide this support for them. So their commitment is real. 561 00:32:21,599 --> 00:32:25,119 They have always seen the threat to themselves to their 562 00:32:25,119 --> 00:32:29,359 own national security. A lot of misinformation out there about 563 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,559 European support. Actually, through the entire time of the war, 564 00:32:33,599 --> 00:32:36,839 the support has been about even they've provided. The whole 565 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:41,200 European nation states beyond NATO provided about the same amount 566 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,559 of level of support that the United States has provided. 567 00:32:43,599 --> 00:32:46,599 There's a lot of misrepresentation of those facts out there, 568 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,880 but where they are now, and there's particularly eight countries 569 00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:54,400 that are absolutely committed to this and they see an 570 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,279 existential threat, and not too surprising, many of them were 571 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,799 former countries under the bell and control of the Soviet Union. 572 00:33:01,799 --> 00:33:03,960 They lived it for forty five years. They want no 573 00:33:04,079 --> 00:33:06,839 more part of it, and they're wanting to make certain 574 00:33:06,839 --> 00:33:10,400 that the war ends in Ukraine. And after all, nobody 575 00:33:10,519 --> 00:33:13,160 is losing any loss of life there, not the United States, 576 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,759 not the European country. We're just providing them weapons and 577 00:33:16,839 --> 00:33:19,319 a fair amount of moral support, I think as well. 578 00:33:19,599 --> 00:33:23,079 So the president is changing his policy right before our eyes. 579 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,160 And we don't know if Putin is going to come 580 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,440 to the negotiating table as a result of that. That's 581 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,880 not knowable, but we do know this, the previous policy 582 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,920 did not work with him. So let's try something different. 583 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,039 That's what a president is. 584 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: A lot of international topics today, let's talk about our 585 00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:45,000 domestic stock market today. So far markets have been on 586 00:33:45,119 --> 00:33:50,119 a tear not today. The Dow fell two hundred and 587 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,960 four down to forty four thousand and six thirty two, 588 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,880 the S and P down nineteen, the Nasdaq down eighty 589 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,839 both of those coming off records with minor losses. The 590 00:34:01,839 --> 00:34:05,440 price of gold went up fourteen dollars to thirty three 591 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,000 twenty four. The price of oil way up almost three 592 00:34:09,079 --> 00:34:12,639 dollars higher, up to sixty nine dollars now for one 593 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:17,199 barrel of oil. That's it for today. Thanks for coming by. 594 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,920 We will have oh Tomorrow is the Fed will come 595 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,400 out and announce whether they're going to leave interest rates alone, 596 00:34:24,599 --> 00:34:27,760 leave them unchanged, or drop them like the President would 597 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,800 like them to do. I'm going to bet on they're 598 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,000 leaving them unchanged, but we'll find out tomorrow. Thanks for 599 00:34:34,039 --> 00:34:42,559 coming by, We will see you tomorrow