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<v Speaker 1>Hi.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doctor Maria Meyer, anthropologists, primatologist, wildlife correspondent and part

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<v Speaker 2>of the team on Expedition Bigfoot. I've spent my entire

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<v Speaker 2>at Maria Mayor dot com and one what are your reporting?

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<v Speaker 3>I got a screen going on here. Something just kid

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<v Speaker 3>my dog, something killed your dog? My dog? We're flying

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<v Speaker 3>through the or over the tree. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 3>it did it? Okay, damn it. I'm really confused. All

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<v Speaker 3>I saw was my dog coming over the fence and

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<v Speaker 3>they was dead. And once you hit the grill, I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't see any cars. All I saw was my dog

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<v Speaker 3>coming over the fence. One. What are you reporting? We

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<v Speaker 3>got some wond or something crawling around out here? Did

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<v Speaker 3>you see what it was?

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<v Speaker 1>Was?

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<v Speaker 3>It was stand enough. I'm out here looking through the

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<v Speaker 3>window now and I don't see anything. I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to go fight. Hello, hit the boddy out here, pquin

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<v Speaker 3>on out there. I've thought of a mention about technine.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Easy annount there. Yeah, I'm right.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey.

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<v Speaker 5>There are places in this country where civilization ends and

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<v Speaker 5>something else begins. Deep forests where cell phones don't work,

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<v Speaker 5>where the nearest road might as well be on another planet,

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<v Speaker 5>where the only sounds are wind through ancient trees and

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<v Speaker 5>your own heartbeat echoing in your ears. Most people who

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<v Speaker 5>venture into these places come back with stories of scenic vistas,

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<v Speaker 5>wildlife sightings, and the kind of peace that only true

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<v Speaker 5>wilderness can provide, But some come back changed. What you're

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<v Speaker 5>about to hear are six accounts from people who encountered

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<v Speaker 5>something in America's most remote forests, something that science says

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't exist. These aren't campfire tales or Internet legends, their

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<v Speaker 5>first hand testimonies from experience outdoorsmen and women, hunters, park rangers,

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<v Speaker 5>wilderness guides, search and rescue volunteers, people whose livelihoods depend

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<v Speaker 5>on understanding the natural world and the creatures that inhabit it.

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<v Speaker 5>Each story comes from a different decade, a different region,

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<v Speaker 5>a different set of circumstances, but they share common threads

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<v Speaker 5>that run deeper than coincidence. Massive footprints in places where

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<v Speaker 5>no human should be, glimpses of something that walks upright

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<v Speaker 5>but isn't quite human, The unsettling feeling of being watched

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<v Speaker 5>by eyes that reflect in intelligence both ancient and alien.

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<v Speaker 5>These witnesses didn't ask to become part of this mystery.

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<v Speaker 5>They were simply in the wrong place at the right time,

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<v Speaker 5>or perhaps the right place at the wrong time, depending

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<v Speaker 5>on your perspective. Most have never spoken publicly about their experiences.

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<v Speaker 5>Some have never told anyone at all until now. The

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<v Speaker 5>forests they describe still exist, largely unchanged our increasingly connected world,

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<v Speaker 5>millions of acres of wilderness where something large and intelligent

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<v Speaker 5>could live its entire existence without ever appearing in a

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<v Speaker 5>scientific journal or government database. Places where the old rules

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<v Speaker 5>still apply, where humans are visitors at best and trespassers

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<v Speaker 5>at worst. Listen carefully to what these people have to say.

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<v Speaker 5>They have nothing to gain from sharing their stories and

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<v Speaker 5>everything to lose, but they've chosen to speak because they

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<v Speaker 5>believe you deserve to know that there are still mysteries

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<v Speaker 5>in this world, still boundaries between the known and unknown

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<v Speaker 5>that we cross at our own peril. The truth, as

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<v Speaker 5>they say, is out there. Sometimes it's closer than we think.

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<v Speaker 5>The Roosevelt elk hunting season had been disappointing that year.

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<v Speaker 5>Three days into what was supposed to be a week

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<v Speaker 5>long trip, and I hadn't seen so much as fresh sign.

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<v Speaker 5>The Olympic Peninsula's dense rainforest can swallow a man whole

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<v Speaker 5>if he's not careful, and after twenty three years of

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<v Speaker 5>hunting these woods, I thought I knew every game, trail

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<v Speaker 5>and creek crossing from the whole River to Lake Crescent.

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<v Speaker 5>That fourth morning started like any other. I'd set up

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<v Speaker 5>camp near a small clearing about eight miles from the

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<v Speaker 5>nearest logging road, far enough back that most weekend warriors

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<v Speaker 5>wouldn't bother making the track. The mist hung thick between

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<v Speaker 5>the massive Douglas firs and western hemlocks, creating a green

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<v Speaker 5>cathedral that seemed to muffle every sound except the distant

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<v Speaker 5>drip of condensation from branches high above. I was working

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<v Speaker 5>my way along a ridge that overlooked a marshy bottom

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<v Speaker 5>where elk sometimes came to feed in the early morning hours.

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<v Speaker 5>The ground was soft beneath my boots, carpeted with decades

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<v Speaker 5>of fallen needles and moss that grew thick as shag

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<v Speaker 5>carpet on every fallen log and rock. Visibility was maybe

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<v Speaker 5>thirty yards in any direction through the fog. That's when

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<v Speaker 5>I first noticed the tracks. At first glance, they looked human,

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<v Speaker 5>but no human foot measures eighteen inches long and eight

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<v Speaker 5>inches wide. The impressions were pressed deep into the soft

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<v Speaker 5>earth near a small creek, deeper than my own two

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<v Speaker 5>hundred pound frame would have made in the same spot.

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<v Speaker 5>Each toe was clearly defined, with what looked like claw

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<v Speaker 5>marks extending from the tips. The stride length between prints

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<v Speaker 5>measured close to five feet. I knelt down and studied

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<v Speaker 5>them more carefully. The tracks were fresh, maybe an hour

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<v Speaker 5>old at most. Water was still seeping into the deepest

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<v Speaker 5>parts of the impressions. Whatever had made them was massive

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<v Speaker 5>and had passed through this area just after dawn. My

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<v Speaker 5>first instinct was to follow them. Curiosity has always been

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<v Speaker 5>my weakness, and in all my years in these woods,

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<v Speaker 5>I'd never seen anything like this. The trail led away

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<v Speaker 5>from the creek and up a steep embankment covered in

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<v Speaker 5>thick salmon berry and Devil's club. The underbrush showed clear

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<v Speaker 5>signs of something large pushing through broken branches and crushed vegetation,

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<v Speaker 5>creating an obvious path. As I climbed, the four seemed

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<v Speaker 5>to grow quieter. The usual chatter of squirrels and the

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<v Speaker 5>distant calls of ravens faded away, until the only sound

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<v Speaker 5>was my own labored breathing and the soft squelch of

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<v Speaker 5>my boots in the muddy earth. The fog was lifting slightly,

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<v Speaker 5>but the canopy above was so thick that very little

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<v Speaker 5>light reached the forest floor. It felt like walking through

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<v Speaker 5>a living cave. The tracks led me along the ridge

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<v Speaker 5>for nearly half a mile before they turned sharply and

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<v Speaker 5>headed down into a ravine i'd never explored before. The

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<v Speaker 5>sides were steep, and covered with loose shale that made

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<v Speaker 5>footing treacherous. About halfway down, I stopped to catch my breath,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's when I realized I was being watched. The

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<v Speaker 5>feeling hit me like a physical blow to the chest.

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<v Speaker 5>Every hunter knows that sensation, the primitive awareness that you've

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<v Speaker 5>become the hunted. The hair on the back of my

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<v Speaker 5>neck stood up, and my mouth went dry. I turned slowly,

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<v Speaker 5>scanning the forest around me, but saw nothing except the

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<v Speaker 5>endless maze of tree trunks and shadows. But the smell

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<v Speaker 5>hit me then, Not the sweet decay of rotting vegetation

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<v Speaker 5>or the musty scent of damp earth. This was something else, entirely,

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<v Speaker 5>something organic and alive. It reminded me of a wet

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<v Speaker 5>dog that had been rolling in mud. But underneath that

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<v Speaker 5>was something sharper, more acrid, like the smell of fierce sweat,

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<v Speaker 5>but magnified one hundredfold. I continued down the ravine, moving

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<v Speaker 5>more slowly now, my rifle ready but feeling inadequate in

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<v Speaker 5>my hands. The thirty six that had dropped dozens of

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<v Speaker 5>elk over the years suddenly seemed like a toy. At

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<v Speaker 5>the bottom of the ravine was a small stream, maybe

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<v Speaker 5>three feet wide, running crystal clear over rounded stones. The

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<v Speaker 5>tracks continued across it and up the opposite bank. That's

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<v Speaker 5>where I found the tree. It was a western red cedar,

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<v Speaker 5>probably eight feet in diameter and ancient even by old

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<v Speaker 5>growth standards. But about twelve feet up the trunk, someone

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<v Speaker 5>or something had twisted of off branches as thick as

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<v Speaker 5>my arm and woven them together in a crude but

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<v Speaker 5>deliberate pattern. The fresh sap was still bleeding from the wounds,

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<v Speaker 5>and some of the branches were still green and flexible.

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<v Speaker 5>Whatever had done this possessed incredible strength and had been

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<v Speaker 5>here very recently. I was studying the tree when I

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<v Speaker 5>heard the sound. It started low, almost below the range

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<v Speaker 5>of human hearing, a rumbling that seemed to come from

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<v Speaker 5>the earth itself. Then it rose in pitch and volume

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<v Speaker 5>until it became a vocalization unlike anything I'd ever heard.

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<v Speaker 5>Not quite a roar, not quite a scream, but something

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<v Speaker 5>that combined the worst elements of both. The sound echoed

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<v Speaker 5>off the walls of the ravine and seemed to go

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<v Speaker 5>on forever. Every instinct I had screamed at me to run,

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<v Speaker 5>but my legs felt like they were filled with concrete.

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<v Speaker 5>I stood there, rifle raised but shaking in my hands,

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<v Speaker 5>scanning the forest around me. The sound had come from

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<v Speaker 5>somewhere ahead, deeper in the ravine, but the acoustics made

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<v Speaker 5>it impossible to pinpoint exactly where. About sixty yards away,

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<v Speaker 5>standing motionless between two massive Douglas firs, was a shape

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<v Speaker 5>that didn't belong. At first, my brain tried to make

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<v Speaker 5>sense of it, to categorize it as a stump or

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<v Speaker 5>a boulder, or anything else that would fit into the

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<v Speaker 5>natural order of things. But as my eyes adjusted and focused,

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<v Speaker 5>there was no denying what I was looking at. It

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<v Speaker 5>stood nearly eight feet tall, covered in dark brown hair

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<v Speaker 5>that seemed to ripple and flow as it breathed. The

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<v Speaker 5>shoulders were impossibly broad, at least four feet across, and

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<v Speaker 5>the arms hung down past where the knees should be.

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<v Speaker 5>But it was the face that froze my blood. Even

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<v Speaker 5>at that distance, I could see the eyes, dark and intelligent,

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<v Speaker 5>watching me with the same calculating stare a wolf gives

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<v Speaker 5>a deer before it decides whether to attack or move on.

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<v Speaker 5>We stared at each other for what felt like hours

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<v Speaker 5>but was probably only seconds. Then, without any warning or sundund.

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<v Speaker 5>It simply melted back into the forest. One moment it

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<v Speaker 5>was there, solid and undeniably real, the next it had vanished,

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<v Speaker 5>as if it had never existed at all. I stood

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<v Speaker 5>there for several more minutes, waiting for something else to happen,

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<v Speaker 5>but the forest had returned to its previous quiet, and

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<v Speaker 5>gradually the normal sounds of birds and small animals began again.

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<v Speaker 5>When I finally worked up the courage to move, I

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<v Speaker 5>backed away, slowly, never taking my eyes off the spot

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<v Speaker 5>where the creature had stood. I didn't follow the tracks

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<v Speaker 5>any further. Instead, I made my way back to camp

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<v Speaker 5>as quickly as the terrain would allow, broke down my gear,

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<v Speaker 5>and hiked out to my truck. The entire eight mile

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<v Speaker 5>trek back to the logging road was accomplished in record time,

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<v Speaker 5>fueled by adrenaline and the constant feeling that I was

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<v Speaker 5>being followed. I never saw anything directly behind me, but

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<v Speaker 5>several times I heard branches breaking in the forest parallel

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<v Speaker 5>to the trail I was following. Whatever was back there

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<v Speaker 5>was keeping pace with me, staying just out of sight,

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<v Speaker 5>but making sure I knew it was there. The message

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<v Speaker 5>was clear, I was being escorted out of its territory.

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<v Speaker 5>That was thirty five years ago, and I've never been

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<v Speaker 5>back to that particular area of the Olympics. I still hunt,

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<v Speaker 5>but I stick to areas closer to civilization now, places

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<v Speaker 5>where the sound of logging trucks and chainsaws reminds you

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<v Speaker 5>that humanity hasn't been completely swallowed up by the wilderness.

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<v Speaker 5>I've told this story to exactly three people over the years,

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<v Speaker 5>my brother, my son, and now you. Each time I

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<v Speaker 5>see the same look in their eyes. The polite skepticism

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<v Speaker 5>that says they think stress or isolation, or maybe just

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<v Speaker 5>too much time alone in the woods has affected my judgment.

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<v Speaker 5>But I know what I saw that day, and I

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<v Speaker 5>That was nineteen ninety, the end of an era when

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<v Speaker 5>In all that time, patrolling over two hundred thousand acres

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<v Speaker 5>August of nineteen seventy four was one of the wettest

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<v Speaker 5>after these messages. Today, I want to tell you about

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<v Speaker 5>radionetwork dot com. Today, I was maybe five miles from

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<v Speaker 5>the nearest maintained trail when I came across the first

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<v Speaker 5>sign that something was off. A large birch tree maybe

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<v Speaker 5>two feet in diameter had been snapped off about eight

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<v Speaker 5>feet from the ground, not cut or sawed, but twisted

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<v Speaker 5>and broken, as if something had grabbed it and wrenched

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<v Speaker 5>Storm damage was always a possibility in the main woods,

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<v Speaker 5>but there hadn't been any significant wind in the past week,

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<v Speaker 5>I took some photographs from my report and continued along

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<v Speaker 5>the trail. About a quarter mile further on, I found

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<v Speaker 5>more evidence of disturbance. Saplings had been pushed aside or

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<v Speaker 5>broken off, creating a path that diverged from the main

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<v Speaker 5>trail and headed deeper into the forest. The undergrowth showed

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<v Speaker 5>clear signs of something large passing through, but the tracks

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<v Speaker 5>in the muddy ground were unlike anything in my field guides.

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<v Speaker 5>As a ranger, I'd learned to follow my instincts, and

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<v Speaker 5>a short distance to see where it led. That decision

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<v Speaker 5>nearly cost me everything. The path led through increasingly dense forest,

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<v Speaker 5>winding between massive granite boulders left behind by glaciers thousands

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<v Speaker 5>of years ago. The canopy above was so thick that

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<v Speaker 5>even in mid afternoon, the light barely penetrated to the

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<v Speaker 5>and the normal sounds of the forest, the chirping of

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<v Speaker 5>gradually faded away until the only sound was my own breathing.

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<v Speaker 5>After about half a mile, the trail led to a

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<v Speaker 5>small clearing beside a beaver pond that wasn't marked on

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<v Speaker 5>any of my maps. The water was dark and still

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<v Speaker 5>reflecting the overcast sky like a black mirror. Along the shoreline,

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<v Speaker 5>the mud was churned up, as if something large had

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<v Speaker 5>been waiting or drinking there recently. But what caught my

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<v Speaker 5>attention were the structures on the far side of the pond.

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<v Speaker 5>Three trees had been uprooted and arranged in a rough triangle,

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<v Speaker 5>They hadn't fallen naturally. They'd been deliberately placed to form

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<v Speaker 5>what looked like a primitive shelter or marker. Inside the triangle,

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<v Speaker 5>I was studying this construction through my binoculars when I

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<v Speaker 5>heard the sound. It started as a low, whooping call,

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<v Speaker 5>of a coyote, but something that seemed to combine elements

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<v Speaker 5>of both while being distinctly neither. The sound came from

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<v Speaker 5>somewhere across the pond, echoing off the water and the

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<v Speaker 5>I spun around my hand, instinctively, going to the three

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<v Speaker 5>point fifty seven revolver on my hip, though I suspected

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<v Speaker 5>it would be about as effective as a pop gun

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<v Speaker 5>against whatever was making those sounds. The forest around me

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<v Speaker 5>looked the same as it had moments before, but something

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<v Speaker 5>I backed toward the edge of the clearing, my eyes

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<v Speaker 5>when I saw them, two shapes, barely visible in the

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<v Speaker 5>They stood upright like humans, but were far too large

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<v Speaker 5>The features were distinctly non human, but disturbingly familiar. The

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<v Speaker 5>and the nose was flat and wide. But the eyes

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<v Speaker 5>were what struck me most. They weren't the dull, vacant

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<v Speaker 5>eyes of an animal. They showed intelligence, awareness, and something

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<v Speaker 5>that looked disturbingly like recognition. We stared at each other

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<v Speaker 5>across the dark water for several long seconds. Then the

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<v Speaker 5>creature raised one massive arm and pointed directly at me,

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<v Speaker 5>not in a threatening gesture, but more like it was

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<v Speaker 5>identifying me. To its companion. The second creature stepped forward well,

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<v Speaker 5>and I could see that it was even larger than

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<v Speaker 5>and ran, crashing through the underbrush with all the stealth

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<v Speaker 5>and dignity of a panicked deer. Branches tore at my

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<v Speaker 5>uniform and pack, and I slipped several times on the

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<v Speaker 5>wet leaves, but I didn't slow down until I reached

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<v Speaker 5>the main trail nearly a mile away. My radio crackled

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<v Speaker 5>with routine traffic from other rangers, the normal sounds of

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<v Speaker 5>civilization that seemed impossibly distant from what I just experienced.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't report the encounter officially, who would have believed it. Instead,

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<v Speaker 5>Over the years, I've had a few occasions to return

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<v Speaker 5>to the general area, but I never found that unmarked

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<v Speaker 5>But I wasn't the only one who'd had unusual experiences

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<v Speaker 5>in from hikers and campers, sounds in the night that

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<v Speaker 5>as hoaxes or misidentifications, and I went along with the

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<v Speaker 5>official explanations. But I started keeping my own files documenting

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<v Speaker 5>patterns and locations. What I found was that all of

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<v Speaker 5>unexplained experiences in the park. He since retired as well,

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<v Speaker 5>and I don't know what became of those records. Officially,

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<v Speaker 5>Baxter State Park has never had any confirmed encounters with

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<v Speaker 5>unknown wildlife, but the park is huge, over three hundreds

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<v Speaker 5>square miles of wilderness, and there are vast areas that

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<v Speaker 5>Woods of Maine have always harbored secrets, and the Panobscot

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<v Speaker 5>creatures that walk upright like men, but live apart from

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<v Speaker 5>human civilization. I've never spoken publicly about what I saw

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<v Speaker 5>that day in nineteen seventy four, But now that I'm

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<v Speaker 5>die with the people who experience them, I feel an

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<v Speaker 5>obligation to add my voice to the record. What I

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<v Speaker 5>aware of my presence in its territory. Whether it was

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<v Speaker 5>the last remnant of some unknown species or something else entirely,

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<v Speaker 5>I can't say, but I know that the Deep Woods

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<v Speaker 5>of Maine still hold mysteries that science hasn't cataloged and

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<v Speaker 5>and some questions are better left unanswered. The forest keeps

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<v Speaker 5>it learned to respect that silence. The north Woods of

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<v Speaker 5>when people talk about bigfoot encounters, but the creature or

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<v Speaker 5>creatures don't respect regional boundaries. The Appalachian Mountains stretching from

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<v Speaker 5>Georgia to Canada have their own long history of unexplained encounters.

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<v Speaker 5>In the summer of nineteen sixty five, nine years before

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<v Speaker 5>that Ranger's experience in Maine, a wilderness guide in North

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<v Speaker 5>Carolina would discover that the Blue Ridge Mountains held secrets

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<v Speaker 5>the Hendersons hired me for what they called a wilderness

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<v Speaker 5>photography expedition. They were from New York City, a father

417
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<v Speaker 5>and his college aged son, both carrying more camera equipment

418
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<v Speaker 5>than most professional photographers I'd known. The plan was simple,

419
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<v Speaker 5>spend five days deep in the Pizga National Forest, camping

420
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<v Speaker 5>in areas where few people ventured, documenting what they ca

421
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<v Speaker 5>called the authentic Southern Appalachian wilderness experience. September in the

422
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<v Speaker 5>Carolina Mountains is about as perfect as weather gets. The

423
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<v Speaker 5>summer heat was breaking, but the real cold hadn't set

424
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<v Speaker 5>in yet. The leaves were just starting to turn, painting

425
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<v Speaker 5>the ridges in subtle shades of gold and red. We'd

426
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<v Speaker 5>had enough rain to keep the streams running clear and cold,

427
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<v Speaker 5>and the morning mist would rise from the valleys like

428
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<v Speaker 5>smoke from some ancient fire. I took them into an

429
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<v Speaker 5>area I knew well, about twelve miles south of the

430
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<v Speaker 5>Blue Ridge Parkway, where old Cherokee hunting trails wound through

431
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<v Speaker 5>stands of virgin timber that had somehow escaped the logger's saws.

432
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<v Speaker 5>The terrain was challenging, but not dangerous for experienced hikers,

433
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<v Speaker 5>with plenty of scenic overlooks and wildlife viewing opportunities that

434
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<v Speaker 5>would give them the shots they were looking for. Our

435
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<v Speaker 5>first two days went perfectly. The Hendersons proved to be

436
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<v Speaker 5>competent outdoorsmen despite their city origins, and young Michael had

437
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<v Speaker 5>a real eye for photography. He captured images of morning

438
00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:05.599
<v Speaker 5>mists rising from hidden valleys, ancient rhododendron thickets, and mountain

439
00:26:05.599 --> 00:26:08.000
<v Speaker 5>streams that looked like they'd never felt the touch of

440
00:26:08.079 --> 00:26:12.400
<v Speaker 5>human hands. His father focused more on the broader landscapes,

441
00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:15.920
<v Speaker 5>the endless ridges fading into blue distance that gave these

442
00:26:15.960 --> 00:26:19.480
<v Speaker 5>mountains their name. On the third day, we were camped

443
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<v Speaker 5>in a small meadow beside Laurel Creek, maybe eight miles

444
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<v Speaker 5>from the nearest Forest Service road. The site was one

445
00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:30.279
<v Speaker 5>of my favorites, surrounded by towering white oaks and tulip poplars,

446
00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:34.079
<v Speaker 5>with a clear view of the surrounding ridges. The Hendersons

447
00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:36.839
<v Speaker 5>had spent the day photographing a family of black bears

448
00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:40.400
<v Speaker 5>that had wandered through the area, keeping a respectful distance

449
00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:44.640
<v Speaker 5>but getting some remarkable shots. That evening, as we sat

450
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<v Speaker 5>around the campfire sharing stories and planning the next day's route,

451
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<v Speaker 5>Michael mentioned that he'd been hearing odd sounds during the night.

452
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<v Speaker 5>Not the usual nocturnal symphony of owls and whipper wheels,

453
00:26:56.359 --> 00:26:59.400
<v Speaker 5>but something else, something that seemed to move through the

454
00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:03.720
<v Speaker 5>forest parallel to our camp. His father had noticed it too,

455
00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:08.079
<v Speaker 5>but neither of them seemed particularly concerned. City folks often

456
00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:11.119
<v Speaker 5>have trouble sleeping in the woods at first, overwhelmed by

457
00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:15.240
<v Speaker 5>sounds that seem unnaturally loud in the darkness. I'd heard

458
00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:18.119
<v Speaker 5>the sounds as well, but hadn't thought much of them.

459
00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:21.559
<v Speaker 5>Large animals moving through the forest at night wasn't unusual,

460
00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:24.279
<v Speaker 5>and the sound seemed to come from far enough away

461
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<v Speaker 5>that they posed no immediate threat. Bears, deer, even the

462
00:27:28.680 --> 00:27:32.039
<v Speaker 5>occasional wild boar, would create plenty of noise crashing through

463
00:27:32.039 --> 00:27:35.519
<v Speaker 5>the underbrush especially if they were startled or just passing

464
00:27:35.559 --> 00:27:40.200
<v Speaker 5>through their territory. The fourth morning changed everything. I woke

465
00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:43.240
<v Speaker 5>before dawn, as was my habit, to get the fire

466
00:27:43.279 --> 00:27:47.279
<v Speaker 5>started and coffee brewing before my clients stirred. The forest

467
00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:50.680
<v Speaker 5>was wrapped in that peculiar stillness that comes just before sunrise,

468
00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:53.519
<v Speaker 5>when even the night sounds have faded, but the day

469
00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:57.039
<v Speaker 5>shift hasn't yet taken over. I was crouched beside the

470
00:27:57.039 --> 00:28:01.599
<v Speaker 5>fire ring arranging kindling when I noticed the smell. It

471
00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:04.039
<v Speaker 5>wasn't the clean scent of wood smoke or the earthy

472
00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:08.119
<v Speaker 5>aroma of morning mist. This was something organic and potent,

473
00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:11.759
<v Speaker 5>like wet fur mixed with something sharper and more pungent.

474
00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:17.000
<v Speaker 5>Not unpleasant exactly, but definitely foreign to these mountains. I'd

475
00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:20.160
<v Speaker 5>smelled black bear at close range, and this wasn't that.

476
00:28:20.960 --> 00:28:24.599
<v Speaker 5>This was something else entirely. I looked around the campsite

477
00:28:24.599 --> 00:28:27.000
<v Speaker 5>more carefully and noticed that our food, which we'd hung

478
00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:29.839
<v Speaker 5>properly in a bare bag twelve feet up a nearby

479
00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:33.920
<v Speaker 5>oak tree, was undisturbed. That's when I found the footprints.

480
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<v Speaker 5>They were in a muddy patch beside the creek, maybe

481
00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:40.759
<v Speaker 5>thirty yards from our tents. At first glance, they looked

482
00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:45.160
<v Speaker 5>almost human, but the proportions were all wrong. Each print

483
00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:48.119
<v Speaker 5>was nearly sixteen inches long, and the heel impression was

484
00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:51.920
<v Speaker 5>deep and round. The stride length between prints was at

485
00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:55.240
<v Speaker 5>least four feet. I called the Hendersons over to look,

486
00:28:55.279 --> 00:28:58.920
<v Speaker 5>and Michael immediately started photographing the tracks from multiple angles,

487
00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:01.759
<v Speaker 5>while his father took measurements and made sketches in his

488
00:29:01.839 --> 00:29:06.279
<v Speaker 5>field notebook. They were excited by the discovery, speculating that

489
00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:09.400
<v Speaker 5>they might have stumbled onto evidence of some unknown species,

490
00:29:09.759 --> 00:29:13.359
<v Speaker 5>or possibly a hoax left by previous campers. But I

491
00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:16.000
<v Speaker 5>knew these mountains too well to dismiss the tracks as

492
00:29:16.039 --> 00:29:20.000
<v Speaker 5>a prank. We were miles from any established trail in

493
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<v Speaker 5>an area that maybe saw a dozen visitors per year.

494
00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:27.119
<v Speaker 5>The prints were too perfect, too detailed, and too fresh

495
00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:30.319
<v Speaker 5>to have been manufactured. Whatever had made them had been

496
00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:33.119
<v Speaker 5>in our camp during the night, close enough to touch

497
00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:36.559
<v Speaker 5>our equipment, and we'd never known it was there. We

498
00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:39.279
<v Speaker 5>spent most of that morning following the trail of footprints.

499
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<v Speaker 5>They led away from the creek and up a steep

500
00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:45.160
<v Speaker 5>ridge covered in mountain laurel and rhododendron so thick it

501
00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:49.039
<v Speaker 5>formed natural tunnels through the vegetation. The creature had pushed

502
00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:53.319
<v Speaker 5>through this nearly impenetrable thicket with ease, leaving broken branches

503
00:29:53.359 --> 00:29:57.119
<v Speaker 5>and crushed foliage in its wake. About halfway up the ridge,

504
00:29:57.160 --> 00:29:59.680
<v Speaker 5>the trail led to a small clearing where several large

505
00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:02.720
<v Speaker 5>stone had been arranged in what looked like a deliberate pattern.

506
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<v Speaker 5>And stay tuned for more sasquatch ott to see.

507
00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:07.519
<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back after.

508
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:17.039
<v Speaker 5>These messages not random placement, but organized purposeful, as if

509
00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:19.640
<v Speaker 5>someone had been trying to create some kind of structure

510
00:30:19.720 --> 00:30:22.640
<v Speaker 5>or marker. In the center of the arrangement was a

511
00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:26.880
<v Speaker 5>pile of fresh pine boughs, still green and aromatic, woven

512
00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:31.279
<v Speaker 5>together in a loose, nest like construction. Michael was photographing

513
00:30:31.319 --> 00:30:33.839
<v Speaker 5>everything when his father grabbed my arm and pointed toward

514
00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:37.200
<v Speaker 5>the opposite side of the clearing. Standing just inside the

515
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:40.680
<v Speaker 5>tree line, partially hidden by the shadows and thick vegetation,

516
00:30:41.319 --> 00:30:43.480
<v Speaker 5>was a shape that didn't belong to any animal I'd

517
00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:47.079
<v Speaker 5>ever seen in these mountains. It stood upright like a man,

518
00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:50.160
<v Speaker 5>but was far too large and covered in coarse, dark

519
00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:53.880
<v Speaker 5>brown hair that seemed to ripple in the morning breeze.

520
00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:57.160
<v Speaker 5>The shoulders were impossibly broad, but it was the head

521
00:30:57.200 --> 00:31:00.279
<v Speaker 5>that held my attention. The skull was a long d

522
00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:03.599
<v Speaker 5>and peaked, with a pronounced ridge above the eyes, and

523
00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:06.359
<v Speaker 5>the face was a disturbing mixture of human and ape

524
00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:09.839
<v Speaker 5>like features. We stared at each other across the clearing.

525
00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:13.680
<v Speaker 5>The creature showed no sign of fear or aggression, just

526
00:31:13.720 --> 00:31:17.000
<v Speaker 5>a kind of patient curiosity, as if it was studying

527
00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:20.319
<v Speaker 5>us the same way we were studying it. Then, without

528
00:31:20.319 --> 00:31:23.680
<v Speaker 5>any sound or sudden movement, it simply stepped backward into

529
00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:27.119
<v Speaker 5>the deeper shadows, and it was gone. The three of

530
00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:29.759
<v Speaker 5>us stood in stunned silence for a long time after

531
00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:33.720
<v Speaker 5>it disappeared. Michael had been too shocked to take any photographs,

532
00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:36.519
<v Speaker 5>and his father's hands were shaking too badly to write

533
00:31:36.519 --> 00:31:40.680
<v Speaker 5>in his notebook. We were experienced outdoorsmen, not prone to

534
00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:44.279
<v Speaker 5>hysteria or flights of fancy, but what we'd just witnessed

535
00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:47.480
<v Speaker 5>challenged everything we thought we knew about the natural world.

536
00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:50.759
<v Speaker 5>We made our way back to camp in subdued silence,

537
00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:54.279
<v Speaker 5>each of us trying to process what we'd seen. The

538
00:31:54.319 --> 00:31:56.720
<v Speaker 5>Hendersons wanted to return to the clearing and set up

539
00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:00.519
<v Speaker 5>a longer observation post, but every instinct idea developed in

540
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:02.799
<v Speaker 5>nearly ten years of guiding told me that would be

541
00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:07.160
<v Speaker 5>a mistake. Whatever we'd encountered had allowed us to see it,

542
00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:10.200
<v Speaker 5>possibly even wanted us to see it, but that didn't

543
00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:14.680
<v Speaker 5>mean it would tolerate extended intrusion into its territory. That night,

544
00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:17.759
<v Speaker 5>the sounds around our camp were different. Instead of the

545
00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:21.680
<v Speaker 5>distant crashing through underbrush we'd heard on previous nights, there

546
00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:26.119
<v Speaker 5>were closer sounds, more deliberate, the sounds of large feet

547
00:32:26.160 --> 00:32:29.440
<v Speaker 5>circling our camp site, the occasional crack of a branch.

548
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:34.920
<v Speaker 5>Most unsettling of all, what sounded like soft vocalizations, low

549
00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:38.240
<v Speaker 5>whooping calls that seemed to come from multiple directions at once.

550
00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:41.880
<v Speaker 5>None of us slept much that night. We took turns

551
00:32:41.960 --> 00:32:44.720
<v Speaker 5>keeping the fire burning bright and staying alert for any

552
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:47.960
<v Speaker 5>sign of immediate danger, but whatever was out there in

553
00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:51.960
<v Speaker 5>the darkness seemed content to observe from a distance. When

554
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:55.319
<v Speaker 5>dawn finally came, we found fresh tracks around the perimeter

555
00:32:55.400 --> 00:32:58.079
<v Speaker 5>of our camp, as if something had been patrolling our

556
00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:01.319
<v Speaker 5>site throughout the night. We broke camp that morning and

557
00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:03.799
<v Speaker 5>hiked out to the truck a day earlier than planned.

558
00:33:04.599 --> 00:33:08.359
<v Speaker 5>The Hendersons had gotten their wilderness photography expedition, but not

559
00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:12.000
<v Speaker 5>in the way any of us had expected. Michael's photographs

560
00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:14.799
<v Speaker 5>of the footprints and the stone arrangement came out perfectly,

561
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:18.400
<v Speaker 5>but he's never shown them to anyone outside his immediate family.

562
00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:21.680
<v Speaker 5>The experience changed all of us in ways that are

563
00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:26.000
<v Speaker 5>difficult to explain. I continued guiding in the Pisga National

564
00:33:26.039 --> 00:33:29.400
<v Speaker 5>Forest for another fifteen years, but I never took clients

565
00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:33.079
<v Speaker 5>back to that particular area. Several times over the years,

566
00:33:33.319 --> 00:33:35.440
<v Speaker 5>I returned alone to see if I could find any

567
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:38.960
<v Speaker 5>additional evidence, But the forest had reclaimed the clearing where

568
00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:43.000
<v Speaker 5>we'd had our encounter. The stone arrangement was gone, scattered,

569
00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:46.279
<v Speaker 5>or removed, and the area showed no signs of continued

570
00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:50.240
<v Speaker 5>unusual activity. But I've never forgotten those few moments when

571
00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:52.960
<v Speaker 5>I stood face to face with something that science says

572
00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:57.200
<v Speaker 5>doesn't exist. The mountains of North Carolina have been home

573
00:33:57.240 --> 00:33:59.880
<v Speaker 5>to the Cherokee for thousands of years, and their led

574
00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:03.160
<v Speaker 5>speak of creatures that walk upright like men, but live

575
00:34:03.200 --> 00:34:07.400
<v Speaker 5>apart from human civilization. The old timers in the communities

576
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:11.199
<v Speaker 5>around the National Forest have their own stories passed down

577
00:34:11.239 --> 00:34:15.559
<v Speaker 5>through generations of hunting and logging families. Most people dismiss

578
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:19.800
<v Speaker 5>these accounts as folklore or misidentification, and maybe their right.

579
00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:22.679
<v Speaker 5>But I know what I saw that September morning in

580
00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:26.360
<v Speaker 5>nineteen sixty five, and I know it was real. The

581
00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:30.119
<v Speaker 5>Southern Appalachians are old mountains, worn smooth by millions of

582
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:33.280
<v Speaker 5>years of weather and time, and they harbor secrets that

583
00:34:33.360 --> 00:34:36.960
<v Speaker 5>go deeper than most people realize. Some of those secrets

584
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:41.400
<v Speaker 5>are better left undisturbed, living reminders that human knowledge has limits,

585
00:34:41.639 --> 00:34:44.320
<v Speaker 5>and that mystery still has a place in our increasingly

586
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:48.559
<v Speaker 5>cataloged world. The mountains of North Carolina were ancient when

587
00:34:48.599 --> 00:34:51.960
<v Speaker 5>the first European settlers arrived, but the forests of northern

588
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:56.199
<v Speaker 5>Minnesota were shaped by more recent forces. Glaciers carved the

589
00:34:56.280 --> 00:34:59.880
<v Speaker 5>landscape into a maze of lakes and streams, creating some

590
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.400
<v Speaker 5>one of the most remote wilderness left in the lower

591
00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:05.719
<v Speaker 5>forty eight States. It was in this maze, during the

592
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:09.440
<v Speaker 5>difficult economic times of the early nineteen nineties, that a

593
00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:13.159
<v Speaker 5>man seeking solitude would find far more than he bargained for.

594
00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:18.000
<v Speaker 5>The plan had been simple enough, a solo backpacking trip

595
00:35:18.039 --> 00:35:22.039
<v Speaker 5>through the Boundary Waters Canoe Area wilderness, taking advantage of

596
00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:24.800
<v Speaker 5>the brief window between the end of hunting season and

597
00:35:24.840 --> 00:35:29.239
<v Speaker 5>the arrival of serious winter weather. November and northern Minnesota

598
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:32.800
<v Speaker 5>can be unpredictable, but the forecast called for clear skies

599
00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:35.760
<v Speaker 5>and temperatures in the thirties, perfect for the kind of

600
00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:39.599
<v Speaker 5>solitary hiking that helps clear your head after a difficult year.

601
00:35:40.360 --> 00:35:43.039
<v Speaker 5>I'd been through a messy divorce that summer, lost my

602
00:35:43.159 --> 00:35:45.719
<v Speaker 5>job in the corporate downsizing that seemed to be hitting

603
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:49.079
<v Speaker 5>everyone in the early nineties, and needed time away from

604
00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:53.840
<v Speaker 5>the relentless demands of modern life. The Superior National Forest

605
00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:57.320
<v Speaker 5>offered exactly what I was looking for, a million acres

606
00:35:57.360 --> 00:36:00.679
<v Speaker 5>of pristine wilderness where a man could walk for without

607
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:04.239
<v Speaker 5>seeing another human being or any trace of civilization beyond

608
00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:07.519
<v Speaker 5>his own footprints. My route started from the gun Flint

609
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:09.920
<v Speaker 5>Trail and led deep into the back country along a

610
00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:13.719
<v Speaker 5>series of portage trails that connected remote lakes and streams.

611
00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:17.599
<v Speaker 5>The autumn colors had already peaked and fallen, leaving the

612
00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:21.000
<v Speaker 5>hardwood forest bare and stark against the gray November sky.

613
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:25.239
<v Speaker 5>The conifers, mostly red and white pine with scattered stands

614
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:28.400
<v Speaker 5>of spruce and balsam fir, provided the only color in

615
00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:32.440
<v Speaker 5>a landscape that seemed drained of warmth and life. Everything

616
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:35.400
<v Speaker 5>went wrong On the fourth night. The temperature had dropped

617
00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:38.440
<v Speaker 5>below freezing and I was camped beside a small lake

618
00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:41.880
<v Speaker 5>about six miles from the nearest trail. I chosen the

619
00:36:41.880 --> 00:36:45.639
<v Speaker 5>spot because it felt isolated and peaceful, exactly what I

620
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:49.679
<v Speaker 5>needed after the divorce. Around midnight, I was jolted awake

621
00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:52.400
<v Speaker 5>by the sound of something large crashing through the woods

622
00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:55.519
<v Speaker 5>on the opposite shore. Not the careful movement of a

623
00:36:55.559 --> 00:36:59.119
<v Speaker 5>deer or bear, but heavy, deliberate footsteps that seemed to

624
00:36:59.119 --> 00:37:02.480
<v Speaker 5>circle the entire lake. I lay in my sleeping bag,

625
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:05.119
<v Speaker 5>listening as whatever it was made a complete circuit of

626
00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:08.400
<v Speaker 5>the water, the sounds getting closer each time it passed

627
00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:12.159
<v Speaker 5>my camp site. Then came the first rock. It hit

628
00:37:12.239 --> 00:37:14.880
<v Speaker 5>my tent with enough force to shake the entire structure,

629
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:19.280
<v Speaker 5>followed immediately by a low, guttural vocalization that sounded like

630
00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:22.400
<v Speaker 5>a mix between a bear's roar and something almost human.

631
00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:26.360
<v Speaker 5>I grabbed my flashlight and unzipped the tent, fly scanning

632
00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:29.800
<v Speaker 5>the treeline across the lake. That's when I saw the eyes,

633
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:34.320
<v Speaker 5>two points of greenish light reflecting my beam, positioned about

634
00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:36.840
<v Speaker 5>eight feet off the ground and spaced too far apart

635
00:37:37.079 --> 00:37:40.360
<v Speaker 5>to belong to any animal I knew. They didn't move

636
00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:43.119
<v Speaker 5>or blink, just stared at me with an intensity that

637
00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:46.280
<v Speaker 5>made my skin crawl. When I shifted the light away

638
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:49.840
<v Speaker 5>and back again, they were gone. But the rock throwing

639
00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:53.239
<v Speaker 5>had just begun. For the next hour, stones pelted my

640
00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:58.480
<v Speaker 5>campsite with mechanical regularity, not random throws, but carefully aimed

641
00:37:58.519 --> 00:38:02.079
<v Speaker 5>projectiles that hit my tent, my pack, even my cooking

642
00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:06.159
<v Speaker 5>gear with deliberate precision. Each impact was followed by that

643
00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:11.000
<v Speaker 5>same unsettling vocalization, now coming from multiple directions around the lake.

644
00:38:11.760 --> 00:38:14.800
<v Speaker 5>I wasn't dealing with one creature. There were several of them,

645
00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:19.360
<v Speaker 5>and they were coordinating their harassment. The vocalizations grew more

646
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:23.039
<v Speaker 5>complex as the night wore on. What started as simple

647
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:27.000
<v Speaker 5>grunts and roars evolved into what sounded almost like communication,

648
00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:30.639
<v Speaker 5>different tones and patterns that seemed to be responses to

649
00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:34.480
<v Speaker 5>each other. Whatever these things were, they were talking, and

650
00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:38.360
<v Speaker 5>I was the subject of their conversation. Around three am,

651
00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:41.199
<v Speaker 5>they got bold enough to approach my camp site directly.

652
00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:44.599
<v Speaker 5>I could hear heavy breathing just outside my tent, so

653
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:48.800
<v Speaker 5>close that the fabric moved with each exhalation. Something brushed

654
00:38:48.840 --> 00:38:53.039
<v Speaker 5>against the guylines, testing their tension, while footsteps circled my

655
00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:57.480
<v Speaker 5>shelter with what seemed like deliberate slowness. The closest one

656
00:38:57.480 --> 00:39:00.639
<v Speaker 5>made a sound I'll never forget, a low rumbling that

657
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:02.840
<v Speaker 5>I felt in my chest as much as heard with

658
00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:06.639
<v Speaker 5>my ears, like a massive cat's purr mixed with a growl.

659
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:10.320
<v Speaker 5>It was right next to my head, separated only by

660
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:14.360
<v Speaker 5>a thin layer of nylon fabric. I stayed perfectly still,

661
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:18.760
<v Speaker 5>barely breathing, until the sounds finally moved away toward dawn.

662
00:39:19.639 --> 00:39:21.880
<v Speaker 5>When the first light appeared, I packed my gear with

663
00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:24.920
<v Speaker 5>shaking hands and started the longest hike of my life

664
00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:27.880
<v Speaker 5>back to the parking area. But they weren't done with

665
00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:31.159
<v Speaker 5>me yet. The entire six mile trek out became a

666
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:34.920
<v Speaker 5>gauntlet of psychological warfare. I could hear them pacing me

667
00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:37.679
<v Speaker 5>through the forest, staying just out of sight, but making

668
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:40.719
<v Speaker 5>sure I knew they were there. Branches broke in the

669
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:44.000
<v Speaker 5>woods on both sides of the trail, Rocks sailed past

670
00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:47.320
<v Speaker 5>my head close enough that I could feel the air displacement.

671
00:39:48.079 --> 00:39:50.840
<v Speaker 5>Every few hundred yards. I'd catch glimpses of movement in

672
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:54.559
<v Speaker 5>my peripheral vision, dark shapes that vanished the moment I

673
00:39:54.599 --> 00:39:57.639
<v Speaker 5>turned to look directly at them. But the eyes were

674
00:39:57.639 --> 00:40:01.320
<v Speaker 5>the worst part. Whenever I stopped rest or check my map,

675
00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:04.599
<v Speaker 5>I'd see those greenish reflections watching me from the forest.

676
00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:09.519
<v Speaker 5>Multiple pairs positioned at different heights and distances. About three

677
00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:12.679
<v Speaker 5>miles from my car, one of them stepped partially into view.

678
00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:16.639
<v Speaker 5>It was massive, easily seven feet tall and built like

679
00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:20.480
<v Speaker 5>a linebacker, covered in dark hair that hung in coarse patches.

680
00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:23.599
<v Speaker 5>But what struck me most was how human like its

681
00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:27.599
<v Speaker 5>posture was, standing fully upright with arms that hung nearly

682
00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:30.840
<v Speaker 5>to its knees. It watched me for maybe ten seconds,

683
00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:34.079
<v Speaker 5>then melted back into the forest without making a sound.

684
00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:38.960
<v Speaker 5>The last mile was pure terror. The harassment intensified, as

685
00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:42.239
<v Speaker 5>if they knew I was almost to safety. Rocks flew

686
00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:45.679
<v Speaker 5>constantly now, and the vocalizations grew louder and more aggressive.

687
00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:49.159
<v Speaker 5>Something heavy crashed through the underbrush just ahead of me,

688
00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:52.360
<v Speaker 5>and I could smell a rank, musky odor that reminded

689
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:55.679
<v Speaker 5>me of a zoo's primate house. I reached my car

690
00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:57.880
<v Speaker 5>at a dead run and through my gear in the

691
00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:01.199
<v Speaker 5>back without even looking behind me. As I drove away,

692
00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:03.559
<v Speaker 5>I could see shapes moving at the forest edge in

693
00:41:03.559 --> 00:41:06.920
<v Speaker 5>my rear view mirror, watching my departure with what seemed

694
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:10.280
<v Speaker 5>like satisfaction. I've never been back to that part of

695
00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:13.440
<v Speaker 5>the Superior National Forest, and I've never told this story

696
00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:16.800
<v Speaker 5>to anyone who might think I was crazy. But sometimes

697
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:20.719
<v Speaker 5>on quiet nights, I still wake up hearing those vocalizations

698
00:41:20.719 --> 00:41:23.320
<v Speaker 5>and feeling like something is watching me through the darkness.

699
00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:27.960
<v Speaker 5>The ojibwe have stories about creatures in those woods, beings

700
00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:30.679
<v Speaker 5>they say are guardians of the deep forest who don't

701
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:35.039
<v Speaker 5>appreciate human intrusion. After what I experienced, I think they

702
00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:38.320
<v Speaker 5>might be right. Some places are meant to stay wild,

703
00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:42.400
<v Speaker 5>and some boundaries shouldn't be crossed. Our next account moves

704
00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:45.599
<v Speaker 5>us forward eight years and over one thousand miles west

705
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:49.480
<v Speaker 5>to the volcanic landscape of Mount Saint Helens in Washington State.

706
00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:52.800
<v Speaker 5>By two thousand and three, the mountain's blast zone had

707
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:56.960
<v Speaker 5>become a living laboratory for studying ecological recovery, but some

708
00:41:57.119 --> 00:42:00.519
<v Speaker 5>forms of life that return to the devastated landscape weren't

709
00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:04.920
<v Speaker 5>in any scientific textbook. A veteran search and rescue volunteer

710
00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:07.159
<v Speaker 5>would learn that when people go missing in the shadow

711
00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:11.400
<v Speaker 5>of an active volcano, sometimes what you find challenges everything

712
00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:13.599
<v Speaker 5>you thought you knew about the creatures that call the

713
00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:17.880
<v Speaker 5>wilderness home. The call came in just after dawn a

714
00:42:17.920 --> 00:42:20.480
<v Speaker 5>family of three missing in the blast zone near Mount

715
00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:24.159
<v Speaker 5>Saint Helen's. The Yamadas had been camping at Swift Creek

716
00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:26.920
<v Speaker 5>and failed to check out or return home as scheduled.

717
00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:30.400
<v Speaker 5>What should have been a routine search and rescue operation

718
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:33.920
<v Speaker 5>turned into the most terrifying experience of my eight year

719
00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:38.400
<v Speaker 5>volunteer career. We found their abandoned campsite within the first hour.

720
00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:42.079
<v Speaker 5>The tent was still standing, but something had clearly gone

721
00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:46.679
<v Speaker 5>wrong during the night. Gear was scattered everywhere, sleeping bags

722
00:42:46.760 --> 00:42:50.079
<v Speaker 5>dragged outside and left in the dirt. The camp chairs

723
00:42:50.079 --> 00:42:53.039
<v Speaker 5>were overturned, and their food cooler had been ripped open

724
00:42:53.079 --> 00:42:56.719
<v Speaker 5>with what looked like claw marks. But the most unsettling

725
00:42:56.760 --> 00:43:01.400
<v Speaker 5>discovery was the silence. Mount Saint Helen's recovering ecosystem usually

726
00:43:01.400 --> 00:43:05.320
<v Speaker 5>buzzed with bird calls and insect activity, but the entire

727
00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:09.159
<v Speaker 5>area around their campsite was dead quiet, not even wind

728
00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:12.599
<v Speaker 5>in the trees. We split into teams to cover more ground,

729
00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:16.239
<v Speaker 5>and I was paired with Janet to search the northeast quadrant.

730
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:19.400
<v Speaker 5>About two miles from the campsite, we found the first

731
00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:22.400
<v Speaker 5>sign of what we were really dealing with, a line

732
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:26.199
<v Speaker 5>of depressions in the soft volcanic soil that were definitely footprints,

733
00:43:26.599 --> 00:43:30.320
<v Speaker 5>but far too large to be human. Each print was massive,

734
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:33.519
<v Speaker 5>easily twice the size of my boot, with clear tow

735
00:43:33.599 --> 00:43:36.719
<v Speaker 5>impressions and a stride length that suggested something over seven

736
00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:40.679
<v Speaker 5>feet tall. The tracks led deeper into the blast zone,

737
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:44.199
<v Speaker 5>toward terrain so rough that experienced hikers would need ropes

738
00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:47.840
<v Speaker 5>and climbing gear to navigate safely. We followed the trail

739
00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:51.000
<v Speaker 5>for another mile before we heard the first scream. It

740
00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:54.480
<v Speaker 5>came from somewhere ahead of us, high pitched and clearly human,

741
00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:58.920
<v Speaker 5>a woman's voice echoing off the volcanic ridges. But mixed

742
00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:01.920
<v Speaker 5>with it was something else, a deeper roar that made

743
00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:05.119
<v Speaker 5>the hair on my neck stand up. We radioed our

744
00:44:05.159 --> 00:44:08.519
<v Speaker 5>position and pushed forward, moving as fast as the treacherous

745
00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:12.079
<v Speaker 5>terrain would allow. The sounds led us into a narrow

746
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:15.000
<v Speaker 5>canyon that had been carved by the eruption's debris flows.

747
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:19.079
<v Speaker 5>The walls were steep and unstable, covered in loose rock

748
00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:22.639
<v Speaker 5>that could avalanche at any disturbance. At the bottom of

749
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:26.039
<v Speaker 5>the canyon, we found evidence of a struggle, torn fabric

750
00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:29.760
<v Speaker 5>caught on sharp rocks, scattered personal items, and more of

751
00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:33.880
<v Speaker 5>those massive footprints. That's when we realized we were being watched.

752
00:44:34.760 --> 00:44:37.760
<v Speaker 5>Eyes reflected our flashlight beams from ledges high up on

753
00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:42.480
<v Speaker 5>the canyon walls. Multiple pairs positioned at impossible heights where

754
00:44:42.519 --> 00:44:45.480
<v Speaker 5>nothing should have been able to climb. They didn't move

755
00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:50.159
<v Speaker 5>or blink, just tracked our movements with predatory focus. Janet

756
00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:53.559
<v Speaker 5>grabbed my arm and pointed upward. Something large was moving

757
00:44:53.599 --> 00:44:56.599
<v Speaker 5>along the rim of the canyon, paralleling our route, but

758
00:44:56.719 --> 00:45:01.119
<v Speaker 5>staying just out of clear sight. Stay tuned for more

759
00:45:01.159 --> 00:45:04.239
<v Speaker 5>sasquatch otta see, We'll be right back. After these messages,

760
00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:12.239
<v Speaker 5>we could hear rocks dislodging under its weight, the scrape

761
00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:15.679
<v Speaker 5>of claws on stone, and occasionally a low huffing sound

762
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:19.599
<v Speaker 5>that echoed off the canyon walls. We weren't alone down there,

763
00:45:20.079 --> 00:45:24.519
<v Speaker 5>and whatever was watching us wasn't human. The harassment started

764
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:28.159
<v Speaker 5>small pebbles dropping from above just enough to get our attention,

765
00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:32.679
<v Speaker 5>then larger rocks thrown with enough accuracy to land uncomfortably

766
00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:36.440
<v Speaker 5>close to our position. Each impact was accompanied by what

767
00:45:36.599 --> 00:45:40.519
<v Speaker 5>sounded like laughter, if animals could laugh, a series of

768
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:44.480
<v Speaker 5>grunting barks that came from multiple directions. We found the

769
00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:47.159
<v Speaker 5>family huddled in a shallow cave about a quarter mile

770
00:45:47.239 --> 00:45:51.519
<v Speaker 5>deeper into the canyon. They were alive, but traumatized, The

771
00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:54.760
<v Speaker 5>parents shielding their teenage daughter while scanning the canyon walls

772
00:45:54.800 --> 00:45:58.719
<v Speaker 5>with wild eyes. When they saw us, they nearly collapsed

773
00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:02.840
<v Speaker 5>with relief. Their story came out in fragments between sobs.

774
00:46:03.639 --> 00:46:07.119
<v Speaker 5>Something had surrounded their camp site during the night, multiple

775
00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:10.199
<v Speaker 5>creatures that stayed just outside the range of their flashlights,

776
00:46:10.519 --> 00:46:14.519
<v Speaker 5>but made themselves known through vocalizations and rock throwing. When

777
00:46:14.519 --> 00:46:17.159
<v Speaker 5>the family tried to retreat to their car, the creatures

778
00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:20.679
<v Speaker 5>had herded them deeper into the forest like wolves driving prey.

779
00:46:21.559 --> 00:46:24.840
<v Speaker 5>The harassment had continued for hours, with the creatures taking

780
00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:28.320
<v Speaker 5>turns approaching their hiding spots and forcing them to keep moving.

781
00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:32.639
<v Speaker 5>They described glimpses of massive, hair covered figures that moved

782
00:46:32.679 --> 00:46:37.480
<v Speaker 5>through the devastated landscape with impossible ease, leaping between boulders

783
00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:41.480
<v Speaker 5>and scaling cliff faces that would challenge experienced rock climbers.

784
00:46:42.360 --> 00:46:44.920
<v Speaker 5>Getting the family out of the canyon became a nightmare.

785
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:48.480
<v Speaker 5>Whatever was watching us from above grew more aggressive as

786
00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:51.639
<v Speaker 5>we tried to leave, raining down rocks and debris with

787
00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:57.239
<v Speaker 5>increasing intensity. The vocalizations grew louder and more coordinated, coming

788
00:46:57.239 --> 00:46:59.960
<v Speaker 5>from all sides now in what sounded like an organized

789
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:03.880
<v Speaker 5>effort to trap us in the narrow space. About halfway out,

790
00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:06.960
<v Speaker 5>one of them showed itself completely. It stood on a

791
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:10.599
<v Speaker 5>ledge maybe fifty feet above us, silhouetted against the gray sky.

792
00:47:11.599 --> 00:47:15.559
<v Speaker 5>Even at that distance, its size was overwhelming, easily eight

793
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:19.000
<v Speaker 5>feet tall, with shoulders that looked powerful enough to move boulders.

794
00:47:19.719 --> 00:47:22.639
<v Speaker 5>It watched us for several long moments, then threw back

795
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:25.000
<v Speaker 5>its head and let out a roar that echoed through

796
00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:28.760
<v Speaker 5>the canyon like thunder. The sound was answered immediately from

797
00:47:28.840 --> 00:47:32.920
<v Speaker 5>multiple locations around us. We were surrounded, and they wanted

798
00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:35.559
<v Speaker 5>us to know it. The final push to get out

799
00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:39.519
<v Speaker 5>of the canyon was pure chaos. Rocks flew constantly, now,

800
00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:42.679
<v Speaker 5>some large enough to cause serious injury if they connected.

801
00:47:43.440 --> 00:47:46.519
<v Speaker 5>The creatures crashed through the forest around us, staying just

802
00:47:46.599 --> 00:47:48.920
<v Speaker 5>out of sight but making sure we knew they were there.

803
00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:52.440
<v Speaker 5>The family's daughter broke down completely, and we had to

804
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:55.800
<v Speaker 5>carry her the last few hundred yards. We reached the

805
00:47:55.800 --> 00:47:59.360
<v Speaker 5>search command post with a full scale rescue operation mobilizing

806
00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:02.920
<v Speaker 5>around us. But when additional teams went back to investigate

807
00:48:02.960 --> 00:48:07.239
<v Speaker 5>the canyon, they found nothing, no tracks, no evidence of

808
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:11.000
<v Speaker 5>the creatures we'd encountered, no sign that anything unusual had

809
00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:14.599
<v Speaker 5>happened at all. The official report listed the incident as

810
00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:17.119
<v Speaker 5>a case of the family getting lost and panicking in

811
00:48:17.199 --> 00:48:21.400
<v Speaker 5>difficult terrain. The physical evidence we'd observed was attributed to

812
00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:26.239
<v Speaker 5>misidentified bear signs and stress induced hallucinations, but those of

813
00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:30.039
<v Speaker 5>us who were there knew what we'd experienced. I retired

814
00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:32.760
<v Speaker 5>from search and rescue work two years later, but I

815
00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:35.840
<v Speaker 5>still think about that day. In the blast zone. Mount

816
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:40.400
<v Speaker 5>Saint Helen's eruption created a unique landscape, vast areas of

817
00:48:40.480 --> 00:48:43.880
<v Speaker 5>devastated terrain that provide perfect cover for things that don't

818
00:48:43.960 --> 00:48:47.280
<v Speaker 5>want to be found. Maybe we discovered that some legends

819
00:48:47.320 --> 00:48:50.760
<v Speaker 5>are based on reality, and that the recovering forest harbors

820
00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:55.039
<v Speaker 5>more than just returning wildlife. The family never spoke publicly

821
00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:58.800
<v Speaker 5>about their experience, but they moved to Florida within six months.

822
00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:01.719
<v Speaker 5>They send me a Christmas card every year with the

823
00:49:01.760 --> 00:49:05.719
<v Speaker 5>same message. Thank you for believing us. I always will.

824
00:49:06.719 --> 00:49:09.920
<v Speaker 5>Our next account takes us forward in time to twenty nineteen,

825
00:49:10.360 --> 00:49:14.280
<v Speaker 5>to the ancient peaks of New York's Adirondack Mountains. By

826
00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:17.599
<v Speaker 5>this time, social media and smartphone cameras had made wilderness

827
00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:22.599
<v Speaker 5>encounters harder to keep secret, but some experiences transcend documentation.

828
00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:26.559
<v Speaker 5>Our final witness discovered that in the digital age, the

829
00:49:26.639 --> 00:49:29.440
<v Speaker 5>most terrifying encounters are still the ones that leave no

830
00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:33.639
<v Speaker 5>evidence behind, only memories that refuse to fade, and the

831
00:49:33.679 --> 00:49:36.920
<v Speaker 5>certain knowledge that something was hunting him through the darkness.

832
00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:40.400
<v Speaker 5>The weather alert came through just as I was finishing

833
00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:44.679
<v Speaker 5>dinner at my camp site beside coldon lake, severe storm approaching,

834
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:49.639
<v Speaker 5>sudden temperature drop, possible early snow. I'd been backpacking for

835
00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:52.960
<v Speaker 5>twenty years and felt confident riding it out. But I

836
00:49:53.000 --> 00:49:56.519
<v Speaker 5>should have hiked out immediately. Some storms bring more than

837
00:49:56.599 --> 00:49:59.599
<v Speaker 5>just bad weather. The first sign of trouble came around

838
00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:02.519
<v Speaker 5>ten pe when every animal in the area went silent.

839
00:50:03.320 --> 00:50:06.320
<v Speaker 5>Not the gradual quiet of creatures settling down for the night,

840
00:50:06.760 --> 00:50:10.760
<v Speaker 5>but an abrupt, total silence that felt wrong. Even the

841
00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:14.119
<v Speaker 5>lake stopped lapping against the shore, as if the entire

842
00:50:14.239 --> 00:50:18.000
<v Speaker 5>landscape was frozen in fear. Then I heard the howl.

843
00:50:18.719 --> 00:50:22.960
<v Speaker 5>It started low and mournful, like a wolf's call, but wrong, somehow,

844
00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:27.599
<v Speaker 5>too long, too intelligent, with an almost human quality that

845
00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:31.800
<v Speaker 5>made my skin crawl. The sound echoed off the surrounding peaks,

846
00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:34.840
<v Speaker 5>and when it faded, it was answered by another howl

847
00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:39.719
<v Speaker 5>from the opposite direction, then another, and another, until I

848
00:50:39.760 --> 00:50:43.039
<v Speaker 5>realized I was surrounded by whatever was making those sounds.

849
00:50:43.559 --> 00:50:46.599
<v Speaker 5>I retreated to my tent and zipped it shut, listening

850
00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:50.280
<v Speaker 5>as the howls grew closer and more frequent. But the

851
00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:55.880
<v Speaker 5>vocalizations weren't random. They followed patterns that suggested communication, coordination

852
00:50:56.000 --> 00:51:01.639
<v Speaker 5>between multiple individuals. Whatever was out there was talking. Around midnight,

853
00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:04.960
<v Speaker 5>they moved in closer. I could hear heavy paws moving

854
00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:08.400
<v Speaker 5>through the forest around my campsite, circling at a distance

855
00:51:08.440 --> 00:51:12.400
<v Speaker 5>of maybe thirty yards, Not the careful steps of wildlife,

856
00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:17.440
<v Speaker 5>but deliberate, purposeful movement. Occasionally I'd catch glimpses of reflected

857
00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:20.800
<v Speaker 5>light through my tent walls, eyes that glowed with an

858
00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:24.719
<v Speaker 5>eerie green shine, positioned higher off the ground than any

859
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:29.360
<v Speaker 5>natural predator. The harassment started slowly. A stick would break

860
00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:33.599
<v Speaker 5>in the forest, followed immediately by silence, then another break

861
00:51:33.639 --> 00:51:37.480
<v Speaker 5>from a different direction. They were testing my nerves, seeing

862
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:40.800
<v Speaker 5>how I'd react to their presence. When I stayed silent

863
00:51:40.840 --> 00:51:45.000
<v Speaker 5>and motionless, they escalated. The first rock hit my tent

864
00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:48.239
<v Speaker 5>around one am, not large enough to cause damage, but

865
00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:51.639
<v Speaker 5>thrown with enough accuracy to make their intent clear. They

866
00:51:51.719 --> 00:51:54.400
<v Speaker 5>knew exactly where I was, and they wanted me to

867
00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:57.760
<v Speaker 5>know they were there. Each impact was followed by a

868
00:51:57.840 --> 00:52:00.920
<v Speaker 5>low growling sound that seemed to come from multiple throats,

869
00:52:01.599 --> 00:52:04.559
<v Speaker 5>but it was the stalking behavior that truly terrified me.

870
00:52:05.320 --> 00:52:08.400
<v Speaker 5>One of them approached my tent directly, moving with such

871
00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:10.400
<v Speaker 5>stealth that I only knew it was there when I

872
00:52:10.440 --> 00:52:15.280
<v Speaker 5>heard breathing just outside the fabric, deep rhythmic inhalations that

873
00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:19.199
<v Speaker 5>told me something large was studying my scent, learning everything

874
00:52:19.239 --> 00:52:23.199
<v Speaker 5>it could about the human hiding inside. When I shifted position,

875
00:52:23.599 --> 00:52:27.119
<v Speaker 5>the breathing stopped. Then I heard what sounded like sniffing,

876
00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:31.440
<v Speaker 5>as if the creature was following my movements by smell alone.

877
00:52:31.519 --> 00:52:35.519
<v Speaker 5>It circled my tent, slowly, pausing at different points to investigate,

878
00:52:35.960 --> 00:52:39.880
<v Speaker 5>occasionally making soft whimpering sounds that were disturbingly dog like.

879
00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:44.639
<v Speaker 5>Around three AM, I made the mistake of looking outside.

880
00:52:44.679 --> 00:52:47.320
<v Speaker 5>I unzipped the tent blide just enough to peer through

881
00:52:47.880 --> 00:52:50.920
<v Speaker 5>and found myself staring directly into a pair of glowing

882
00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:54.280
<v Speaker 5>eyes less than ten feet away. But these weren't the

883
00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:57.639
<v Speaker 5>eyes of any normal animal. They showed an intelligence that

884
00:52:57.760 --> 00:53:02.000
<v Speaker 5>was unmistakably aware of being observed. The creature held my

885
00:53:02.079 --> 00:53:05.320
<v Speaker 5>gaze for several long seconds, then opened its mouth in

886
00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:08.519
<v Speaker 5>what looked like a grin, revealing teeth that reflected my

887
00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:12.519
<v Speaker 5>flashlight beam. The face was a nightmare fusion of wolf

888
00:53:12.559 --> 00:53:17.360
<v Speaker 5>and human features, elongated muzzle filled with predator's teeth, but

889
00:53:17.440 --> 00:53:21.079
<v Speaker 5>with an expression that was disturbingly knowing. When I jerked

890
00:53:21.159 --> 00:53:23.599
<v Speaker 5>back and zipped the tent closed, I heard what could

891
00:53:23.599 --> 00:53:27.320
<v Speaker 5>only be described as laughter, a series of barking sounds

892
00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:30.559
<v Speaker 5>that held genuine amusement. They played with me for the

893
00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:34.239
<v Speaker 5>rest of the night. Rocks pelted my campsite in carefully

894
00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:37.760
<v Speaker 5>timed intervals, each throw designed to keep me awake and

895
00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:42.960
<v Speaker 5>on edge. The vocalizations grew more complex, incorporating sounds that

896
00:53:43.079 --> 00:53:46.960
<v Speaker 5>ranged from wolf howls to something that almost resembled human speech.

897
00:53:47.719 --> 00:53:50.679
<v Speaker 5>When dawn finally came, I packed my gear in record

898
00:53:50.719 --> 00:53:53.639
<v Speaker 5>time and started what became a seven mile run for

899
00:53:53.760 --> 00:53:58.079
<v Speaker 5>my life. They followed me the entire way. About three

900
00:53:58.119 --> 00:54:01.000
<v Speaker 5>miles from the trailhead, one of them stepped into the open.

901
00:54:01.719 --> 00:54:03.599
<v Speaker 5>It stood in the middle of the trail, about fifty

902
00:54:03.679 --> 00:54:06.800
<v Speaker 5>yards ahead, and my first thought was that someone was

903
00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:10.639
<v Speaker 5>playing a prank. No animal could stand that upright or

904
00:54:10.679 --> 00:54:14.400
<v Speaker 5>look that human. But as I got closer, the wrongness

905
00:54:14.440 --> 00:54:18.639
<v Speaker 5>became obvious. The proportions were all off, too tall and

906
00:54:18.679 --> 00:54:22.119
<v Speaker 5>too muscular, and a head that was distinctly canine despite

907
00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:25.079
<v Speaker 5>the human posture. We stared at each other for a

908
00:54:25.079 --> 00:54:28.159
<v Speaker 5>few seconds, then it dropped to all fours and loped

909
00:54:28.199 --> 00:54:30.880
<v Speaker 5>off into the forest with a grace that no human

910
00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:34.360
<v Speaker 5>in a costume could replicate. But not before I saw

911
00:54:34.360 --> 00:54:39.519
<v Speaker 5>the intelligence in its eyes, ancient, calculating, and completely unafraid.

912
00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:43.719
<v Speaker 5>The last few miles were a blur of terror and adrenaline.

913
00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:46.239
<v Speaker 5>I reached my car at a dead sprint and drove

914
00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:50.199
<v Speaker 5>straight home without stopping, constantly checking my mirrors for signs

915
00:54:50.239 --> 00:54:53.599
<v Speaker 5>of pursuit. It wasn't until I was back in civilization,

916
00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:58.000
<v Speaker 5>surrounded by traffic and noise, that I finally felt safe.

917
00:54:58.039 --> 00:55:02.000
<v Speaker 5>I've researched the area extensively, then and found scattered reports

918
00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:04.639
<v Speaker 5>dating back over a century of similar encounters in the

919
00:55:04.679 --> 00:55:10.000
<v Speaker 5>Adirondack region. The descriptions are consistent, large wolf like creatures

920
00:55:10.039 --> 00:55:14.400
<v Speaker 5>that display human intelligence and behavior, particularly an apparent enjoyment

921
00:55:14.440 --> 00:55:19.960
<v Speaker 5>of psychological harassment. The local Howdenisaani traditions include stories about

922
00:55:19.960 --> 00:55:23.639
<v Speaker 5>creatures they call night hunters that test humans who venture

923
00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:27.199
<v Speaker 5>too deep into the wilderness. According to these accounts, the

924
00:55:27.239 --> 00:55:31.119
<v Speaker 5>creatures aren't necessarily malevolent, but they don't tolerate disrespect for

925
00:55:31.199 --> 00:55:35.480
<v Speaker 5>their territory. I still backpack regularly, but I stay closer

926
00:55:35.480 --> 00:55:39.800
<v Speaker 5>to popular trails now. The Adirondack Park covers six million

927
00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:43.719
<v Speaker 5>acres of mostly wild forest with vast areas that rarely

928
00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:48.320
<v Speaker 5>see human visitors. It's entirely possible that remnant populations of

929
00:55:48.440 --> 00:55:52.840
<v Speaker 5>unknown predators survive in such remote regions, especially if they've

930
00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:57.239
<v Speaker 5>learned to avoid human contact. But sometimes, when conditions are

931
00:55:57.320 --> 00:56:00.719
<v Speaker 5>right and someone ventures too far into their domain, they

932
00:56:00.760 --> 00:56:04.400
<v Speaker 5>make their presence known. And once you've experienced that level

933
00:56:04.400 --> 00:56:08.400
<v Speaker 5>of predatory intelligence focused on you personally, the wilderness never

934
00:56:08.440 --> 00:56:13.400
<v Speaker 5>feels quite as peaceful again. Multiple encounters spanning decades and

935
00:56:13.480 --> 00:56:17.920
<v Speaker 5>covering thousands of miles of North American wilderness, different witnesses,

936
00:56:18.239 --> 00:56:22.239
<v Speaker 5>different creatures, but all sharing common threads that run deeper

937
00:56:22.280 --> 00:56:25.639
<v Speaker 5>than coincidence. Each of these accounts came to us through

938
00:56:25.639 --> 00:56:29.679
<v Speaker 5>different channels. The Boundary Water story from a retired engineer

939
00:56:29.679 --> 00:56:33.400
<v Speaker 5>in Minneapolis who contacted us after hearing our show, The

940
00:56:33.440 --> 00:56:36.280
<v Speaker 5>Mount Saint Helen's incident from a former search and rescue

941
00:56:36.360 --> 00:56:39.800
<v Speaker 5>volunteer who finally felt ready to share his experience, and

942
00:56:39.880 --> 00:56:43.360
<v Speaker 5>the Adirondack encounter from a social media post that led

943
00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:47.440
<v Speaker 5>to hours of detailed interviews. What strikes us most about

944
00:56:47.480 --> 00:56:52.000
<v Speaker 5>these stories isn't their dramatic elements, but their consistency, the

945
00:56:52.079 --> 00:56:56.760
<v Speaker 5>intelligence displayed by these creatures, their apparent coordination and communication,

946
00:56:57.440 --> 00:57:00.159
<v Speaker 5>their ability to remain hidden while making their presence it's

947
00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:04.559
<v Speaker 5>unmistakably known to those who venture too deep into their territory.

948
00:57:04.920 --> 00:57:08.440
<v Speaker 5>These aren't random monster encounters or cases of mistaken identity.

949
00:57:09.039 --> 00:57:12.280
<v Speaker 5>There are accounts of interactions with beings that clearly understand

950
00:57:12.360 --> 00:57:17.800
<v Speaker 5>human behavior, human psychology, and human limitations. Whether we're dealing

951
00:57:17.880 --> 00:57:23.119
<v Speaker 5>with unknown species, interdimensional visitors, or something else entirely, one

952
00:57:23.119 --> 00:57:26.920
<v Speaker 5>thing is certain. We're not alone in the wilderness. The

953
00:57:27.039 --> 00:57:30.320
<v Speaker 5>vast forests of North America still hold secrets that science

954
00:57:30.360 --> 00:57:35.760
<v Speaker 5>hasn't cataloged, Mysteries that are increasingly connected world hasn't solved.

955
00:57:36.280 --> 00:57:40.039
<v Speaker 5>In an age of satellite imagery and GPS tracking, where

956
00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:42.960
<v Speaker 5>every mountain peak has been photographed and every trail has

957
00:57:43.000 --> 00:57:46.800
<v Speaker 5>been mapped, it's both humbling and terrifying to realize that

958
00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:49.719
<v Speaker 5>there are still things watching us from the shadows of

959
00:57:49.760 --> 00:57:53.159
<v Speaker 5>the deep woods. To our listeners who are planning their

960
00:57:53.199 --> 00:57:58.599
<v Speaker 5>own wilderness adventures, respect the forest, respect its inhabitants, and

961
00:57:58.679 --> 00:58:02.239
<v Speaker 5>remember that you're entering tearritory that belong to others long

962
00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:06.159
<v Speaker 5>before humans ever set foot on this continent. Pack your gear,

963
00:58:06.599 --> 00:58:11.119
<v Speaker 5>plan your roots, but also pack your humility. The wilderness

964
00:58:11.159 --> 00:58:13.639
<v Speaker 5>is not a playground or a conquest to be achieved.

965
00:58:14.159 --> 00:58:17.840
<v Speaker 5>It's a living ecosystem where predators still hunt, where ancient

966
00:58:17.960 --> 00:58:21.679
<v Speaker 5>territorial boundaries still matter, and where some residents prefer to

967
00:58:21.719 --> 00:58:25.679
<v Speaker 5>remain undiscovered. Stay safe out there, keep your eyes open,

968
00:58:26.079 --> 00:58:29.199
<v Speaker 5>and remember if something seems to be watching you from

969
00:58:29.199 --> 00:58:34.360
<v Speaker 5>the tree line, trust that instinct. It probably is. Until

970
00:58:34.360 --> 00:58:35.280
<v Speaker 5>next time.

971
00:58:36.320 --> 00:58:40.719
<v Speaker 6>They say you don't gotta go home, but you can't

972
00:58:40.760 --> 00:59:06.719
<v Speaker 6>stay steps, steps.

973
00:59:08.280 --> 00:59:15.119
<v Speaker 1>Stops, chart, this child, that chart.

974
00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:20.119
<v Speaker 4>Everything came right back, bride back to Joy.

975
00:59:19.960 --> 00:59:24.960
<v Speaker 1>For me Joy stay right there, you.

976
00:59:25.159 --> 00:59:55.800
<v Speaker 4>Come in right away. Still step.

977
01:00:00.280 --> 01:00:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Fasts do do do Talk about.

978
01:00:20.480 --> 01:00:34.400
<v Speaker 7>Thesssssts us stas

979
01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:38.760
<v Speaker 1>Used USS
