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Speaker 1: This is an Unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me

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covering Dungeon Crawler Carl chapters thirty two through thirty six.

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In these chapters, we come up against the crack heron

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genius problematic, Yes, fantastic. Also yes. Welcome to spoil Me.

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Welcome to the show everyone. I am Natasha. Thank you

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very much to Michael commissioning this episode. So to start

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things off, I have Michael and Rob in the chat

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here with me, and Rob asked before starting, and I

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decided to save answering it until I was recording. I'm

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wondering if you're enjoying the book. Also, I wonder how

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much enjoyment must change when you do it for a job. Yeah,

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so first, I'm loving the book. I am having a

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great time. Definitely. I am very lucky with my commissions

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that there have been almost no duds at all. I

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won't say there have been none, there have definitely been

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a couple. There was a series that started to get

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commissioned for me at the very beginning of doing this

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that got dropped because it became so clear how much

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I hated the main character, and that was Iron Druid.

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Apparently one of those series that a lot of people

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feel if you like Dresden Files, then you will also

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like this. I didn't. I feel like Harry Dresden is

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written to be a lot more likable than the thousand

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year old Druid, who was insufferable. So that was a dud.

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But most of the time I have been very lucky

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that my listeners have great taste and they are really

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eager to share things that moved them, and that's what

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they want to spend their money on, and that usually

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means something that is really really worth the time. But

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oh sorry, Michael says, Iron Druid was very wish fulfillment. Yeah,

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Iron Druid. The thing that kept getting me about that

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series was how immature the main character was. For being

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a thousand years old, he felt like he was twenty,

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just a regular old human of twenty years old. There

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was no feeling of real wisdom to him that you

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would have to accumulate after some time on Earth, and

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that always played a part in the plot, was him

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just being a fucking fool, and I just couldn't get

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on board. You can't have a main character be that

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old and not have them be really intelligent to a

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degree that you have to change the whole way you're

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writing your stories, which the author was not interested in doing.

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Rob says apropos of that. Then do you have a

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list that you keep of your bests. I don't have

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a list, but I definitely do have, like my mental

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tally my number one unfinished series. Unfortunately it's not finished.

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But the books that I covered that really, by far

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have taken over my brain are the Ninth House and

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hell Bent books by Lee Bardugo. You guys, I cannot

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recommend those books enough. They are some of the most

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spectacularly accurate to life and also fantastical books I've ever read,

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with some of the most brutal plot elements, but also

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moments of such deep satisfaction that you just want to

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like stand up and like pound your chest and yell

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because you're just like, yeah, fucking do it that kind

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of vibe. So highly highly recommend Ninth House and Hellbent,

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but only if you are prepared to wait for the

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third book, which isn't even forthcoming. We don't have a date, Sorry, everybody.

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I don't want to take over this episode with just

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talking about I will say though, for right now. Dungeon

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Crawler Carl is definitely like in my top ten that

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I have covered so far. There are certainly, though, times

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where something that starts off on the top of my

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list over time begins to fall. So I don't want

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anybody to hold me to this. I may change my

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mind eventually, who knows. But right now I am having

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a really good time and it's like different enough because

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of the structure of it from other things that it's

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really keeping my attention in this way as well. Sorry, oh,

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they're still talking at Michael's mentioning Iron Druid. I had

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trouble with a dog just being completely sentient as well.

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It doesn't play as well as Donut does for whatever reason.

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Agree the dog. It was the kind of thing this

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happens a lot when you just decide to make a

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pet talk Donut there is a childlike quality to her

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that makes her still feel like she needs Carl. But

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the dog, I can't remember his name. Wasn't it like

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Oberon or something? He uh? There was just always this

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sort of vibe of like Oberon can just do with

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or without his guy, It doesn't matter. He's basically like

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a full person, you know, Rob says oh Man. Ninth

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House is so good. I want Gideon Nabs my inner monologue.

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And then damn, that's not the same Ninth House. I

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don't know which one you're talking about, but yeah, the

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Ninth House by Lee Bardugo is. I mean, you guys,

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just strap in that. That is one of those books

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that the more I read, the more I kept being like,

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how does she keep doing this? Like she just she

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would these these descriptions that she describes at one point,

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the like trees and the fact that there are buds

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beginning to form as like rings on a gnarled old

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woman's fingers. Just like little moments like that that I'm

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just like they stuck in my brain as being so

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evocative and correct. And then the plot, the pace is

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beyond belief. It's just she just keeps fucking rolling and

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the stakes keep getting higher even though you don't think

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they can. And I just by the time I finished

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the second book, it was like I was out of breath.

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It was that kind of energy. So anyway, okay, okay, okay,

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start talking about this. Chapter thirty two begins with the

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the discovery of these fucking creatures I don't even know,

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like when we first see them, and they are described

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as unvaccinated. I had my suspicions the direction that we

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were going in, right of course, but I was like,

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I don't know, maybe I didn't check to see what

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year this was written, so that was part of it.

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I wasn't really sure if the vibe was different when

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it was written than it was now, because there are

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certain things where the timing of it totally changes the

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context and therefore the intent of the author. And I

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was afraid to look up published dight because sometimes you

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just start to type in the type I've a thing,

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and it'll be like, you know, dungeon Crawler, Carl Donuts,

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terrible Death. We'll just autofill and it's like, oh, thanks great.

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So I just didn't want to even try it. But

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it's also, I have to admit, very difficult for me

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to fully comprehend that the start of the pandemic was

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at this point almost five years ago, because I can't.

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I just that doesn't make any sense. Time is insane.

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So I kept thinking, like, the way I'm interpreting this

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has to be too recent, because I wasn't understanding really

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like how long ago this could have been written and

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that still makes sense. And chloricons are distant hillbilly relatives

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of the Leprechauns. And while the Leprechauns are said to

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guard vast piles of gold, the only thing Chloricons might

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hoard are polaroids of their own sisters sitting on the

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can and questionable business schemes. This particular sect of the

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unvaccines of the unvaccinated variety. Don't let them sneeze on you.

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Warning this is a fairy class mob. Mobs of this

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class inflict twenty percent more damage against you due to

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your goblin pass. So these guys are actually quite easy

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to kill. But obviously, with Carl being possibly more prone

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to getting infected than Donut, he can't loot the bodies

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the way that she can, so she has to go

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and get the stuff like and she also he gives

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her the option to try her raise the dead spell,

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and she manages to do this and make it rip

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apart its friends, which is super gross. Both of them

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almost throw up when they see it doing the thing

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that she told it to do. Each of them has

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a clay jug of something called toilet grade moonshine don'na said.

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we get this bizarre flashback. It's not even a flashback,

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it's just really a memory. I remembered my dad finding

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my sling shot. He and his friends played with it,

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breaking the band. He'd promised he'd get me a new one.

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that your father is basically the equivalent of like a

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shitty little brother. I there's a lot. It's interesting. Actually,

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there's a lot of stories out there with female protagonists

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who have a mother that they kind of feel they

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need to be the adult for. And I've always related

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deeply to that because my mother had me when she

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was so young, and I grew up hyper aware of

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how fragile she was in some ways due to that,

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and like very protective of her. And eventually when people

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who knew me met my mother, I had more than

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one adult, like a teacher say to me, it's so strange.

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You feel like you're older than her, which is correct.

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That's how it's always felt. So I know this feeling

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very well in the context of mother daughter relationships, but

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this kind of vibe with a father's son is less

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of a thing, the father son relationship being like straight

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up abusive. You see that a lot, and this is

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clearly he was abusive, but a lot of the memories

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that Karl has that we have gotten so far are

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less like straight abuse and more just neglect and general

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like shittiness in a way that feels really immature. And

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I'm really really curious about this because I feel like

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this has to inform Carl's personality in a particular way

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that we haven't fully gotten to see yet. And I'm

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really interested to eventually see what that's going to look like,

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because Carl is, like, we know that he is somebody

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who is going to try very hard to do the

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right thing. We have already seen that with the elderly

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people and the way he's reacting to them. We know

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how he feels about bullies, and I am feeling like

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that may wind up being a big part of what

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drives him a little bit further on into things. But

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you know, we'll get there. So I loved this. A

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pamphlet entitled rev Up, Make Money, Be your own Boss,

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Move to the next floor down a y'all. I really

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enjoy this. This is look so so many books have

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their like little ways of making fun of pyramid schemes

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or the energy of like getting ahead and out smarting

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the system. And the thing about like why it's so

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easy to make fun of is the fact that the

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system is not designed for you to outsmart it. It's

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designed to trick you into thinking that you are outsmarting it,

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thus falling prey to it and looking down on other

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people who are also prey to it. Because you believe

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you've somehow cracked a code and they don't know the code.

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to feel like you're better than them, because dividing us

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is the best way to conquer us. That's really all

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it is. But the fact that this MLM, which they

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keep saying, it's not a pyramid and I love Donut,

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so it's not a pyramid. I love donut skullibility. It's like,

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this is a really fun character trait of hers. It

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would be so easy to make Donut, especially as a

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cat character. Making her sort of a snob is something

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that is a sort of go to personality trait when

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you make a cat be able to talk and communicate.

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the author into a sarcasm and shrewdness, maybe even a

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cynical quality, and I really enjoy that's not quite present

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with her. She is a snob in a very specific,

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like a privileged way, but not in like a wise

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to the world kind of way, and that just gives

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a lot more room to the author to have fun

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with her and have her juxtaposed against Carl. So I

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just think that he is playing Donut really well because

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talking about Ober and the sentient dog in this other

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series and why he just isn't as much fun when

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the animal just seems straight up smarter than your main

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character in a lot of ways. I get that you

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think you're being subversive, but it's not really. That's sort

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of what often happens. You need your little character, your

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animal character, to have something that makes them still vulnerable

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beyond just their physical vulnerability of being smaller and more fragile. So,

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also getting back to the MLM, we find out later

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there is something at the bottom of this pamphlet about

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these drinks, these these smoothies rev up smoothies, portable, delicious, invigorating.

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and we find out later that the smoothies are composed

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of moonshine plus the body of a dead fairy blended together.

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I just feel like that's very significant. It's sort of

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like easy to just be like, oh, yeah, that's just

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a mechanic of the game, because this is what we're

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being led to, is that you do something really gross

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to get the perk of this, you know. But I

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think that there is something else happening here with the

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fact that, like these fairies work for a company that

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literally used to sell their parts as a smoothie. That

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does ring a little true to hyper capitalism, as like,

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oh yeah, you can like you cracked the code they

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used to prey on you and blend you into smoothies

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and now you're the boss. Oh honey, is that even true? Like,

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I just there's there's something there and I can't totally

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put words to like what it is, but I just

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feel like there's more of a story in this than

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we are given time to unpack. And uh, it's obviously

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they're not the ones in charge, even though they are

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clearly like middle management, they have to be aware what

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the recipe used to be. So my assumption is kind

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of we used to be killing and blending you to

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sell you, as you know, something to stave off this disease.

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But for whatever reason, we can't do that anymore. So

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instead of literally killing you for sale, we will make

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you our middle management and exploit you in a less

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brutal but ultimately similar way. You know what I'm saying. Anyway,

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I am just I've got my eye on it, that

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is all I'm saying. So, of course, Doughnut, do you

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think we can become consultants? And he is like, girl,

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oh my god, got you gotta stop. As we finished

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our circle of the outer ring of the quadrant, I

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was forced to kill one of the Chloricons with a

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punch to the head. Doughnut missed a shot, and the

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little monster came running right at me, impossibly fast, and

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he defends himself too slowly, and it's head caved in.

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And when I opened my hand, my fingers were covered

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with a lime green oily residue. Warning you've been infected

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with the taint. Having the taint is like having the giggles,

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or like having the time of your life. But instead

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of being a good thing, you are balancing on the

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precipice of death. You may not heal your health using

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any method while you are inflicted with the taint. And

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Carl reacts quite poorly to this. Uh, I was genuinely scared.

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I had received something that was going to kill me

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on its own. The de buff wasn't a big deal.

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I simply had to wait it out. I suspected it

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was part art of a one to two punch. They

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first inflicted you with the taint, then they hit you

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with something else that seeped your health away. If that

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was the case, it didn't matter. These guys were only

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level three. They were dangerous. So this is when he

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starts looking at the moonshine and Uh. Jugs of this

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concoction are highly sought after by the drinking established this

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Oh my god, you guys, I cannot I get ahead

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of myself as I'm reading, and my tongue just starts

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to read ahead as well before I'm actually done, And

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so I combine words in these highly improbable ways. Jugs

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of this concoction are highly sought after by the drinking

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establishments that populate the third, sixth, ninth, twelfth, fifteenth, and

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eighteenth floors. Very very specific drinking A swig defined as

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one point five ounces of this potion will immediately cause

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you to gain the shit faced deep buff has a

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fifty percent chance to render you blind for period of

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thirty hours, a five percent chance to immediately kill you,

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and a forty five percent chance to permanently raise a

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random stat by two points. What odds like? Honestly, even

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though it's insane, I was a little still tempted, not

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gonna lie, and he decides that he is going to

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create some Molotov cocktails, which results in a new item

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that's created and named after him, Carl's jug a Boom,

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and I love how he is described created by an

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unstable pantsless man who talks to a cat. Carl's jug

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a Boom takes the bigger is better approach when it

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comes to Hobgoblin fire bottles burns hotter, bigger, and faster

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than your normal Molotov cocktail. The use of a standard

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torch instead of a cloth wick makes these devices much

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more stable. Just don't drop it once it's lit, lest

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you find yourself doing a joan of our impersonation. And she,

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like Donah, is super excited that this is named after

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him in a way that Carl isn't, But of course

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she would be, and he is like, I really hope

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that everybody doesn't see it like that, whereas personally I

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was sort of like, I don't know, man, it might

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be kind of fun to develop this weird like reputation

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before people meet you, and then they're like, wait, you're

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Carl jug a boom? Carl? Is that you? So they

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test one out and the thing just like makes such

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an inferno that they have to back away several times

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because it just keeps getting bigger. Most of the jugs

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were already about three quarters full, which was good. I

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didn't have to waste any of the moonshine. Out of curiosity,

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I examined the jugs in my inventory and compare their

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value to my other explosive devices. The jugs were pretty

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high on lie list, just above the smoke bombs. The full,

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unaltered jugs of moonshine were more valuable, however, in fact,

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they were near the top of my list, just above

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the engineer's table I still had. And I couldn't help

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but think about how I would react if I saw

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that they made this great weapon, but they also were

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super valuable just as moonshine. It would be very difficult

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to get myself to use them as Molotov cocktails. I

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have to admit it would just be too I think

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I might hoard them, I really do so. We finally

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came across a new type of mob just outside of

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the boss room. There wasn't any sort of giant machinery,

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but a tube ran along the ceiling, curving into what

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looked like a filthy aluminum bathtub. There were piles of bottles,

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empty and full. The snock covered Level threes were taking

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the jugs and tipping them into the tub to fill

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them up. At the far end of the room was

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a doorway guarded by a pair of small floating creatures.

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These weren't Chloricons, but small fat fairies who buzzed about

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with a pair of hummingbird wings. They looked like miniature

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winged soccer moms. Lambanac rev Up Consultant Elites Level six,

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the second tier of the rev Up Empire. These Laminac

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consultants don't need to speak to a manager. They are

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the managers. They run their business with a brutal efficiency.

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It is said that if one of their underlings falls

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behind on their sales quotas, they punish them by requiring

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them to take a sip of their own product. Those

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that survive are repurposed as workers for the filling room,

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or worse, as still engineers working directly under Krakaren herself,

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and he comes up with a plan here with Donut

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using her spell to jump over there. The two biggest

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problems with donuts puddle Jumper spell was the cool down

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and manocost one cast. She couldn't do it again for

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five hours, which meant once she was in that room,

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she couldn't teleport it out. Secondly, it costs twenty manipoints,

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which reminder, she can't drink manipotions for like two full

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minutes between them. So he basically tells her, if you

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get in trouble, you just have to run, but we're

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going to do our best. And what she has to

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do is go in there and use her charm on

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everybody to get them to leave and follow them into

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a room where Carl can attack them using one of

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these juggo booms. Every time I say it, it just

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feels like a little bit like a slur. I don't

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know why. And the thing that is interesting a little

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bit later is that Carl feels that using her ability

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to attack these creatures is a little bit unsavory. I

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think that's the word he uses, and what I thought

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he meant was more like, I don't like like. It's

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one thing to come in and just be ready to

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kill people and honestly say to them, yeah, that's what

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we're here for, is to kill you. It's another thing

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to pretend to be somebody's friend and act like you

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want to help and then turn on them, which I

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still would understand. I really would get it. But it

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turns out he really means is that once they get

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to know people, it's more difficult to see them as

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a just straight up faceless enemy because they say things

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that humanize them, which is exactly the thing about the

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way that war works is that you have to dehumanize

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the enemy in order for a lot of people to

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be able to do the job they're there for as soldiers.

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There's a forgive me for mentioning Black Mirror, which can

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be a very heavy handed show at times, but there

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is an episode where there is like this weird alien

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invasion and all of these soldiers are wearing these particular

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suits to protect them from some gas or something that

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these beings allegedly give off and you know, to keep

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them safe, and they have to go into these spaces

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and just eradicate all of these like weird alien insect beings.

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And then eventually somebody figures out that the suits or

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something that they were given when they first signed up

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changes their perception and those aren't alien insectoid beings, those

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are people, and they have been made to not see

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human beings very literally so that they would just go

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in and fucking destroy everybody. And so this whole time

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they've been murdering like hiding refugees, and it's a pretty

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fucking grim episode, as you can imagine. And the end,

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somebody has been promised a beautiful, like three bedroom home

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to come back to if he finishes his tour, and

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it's left very open ended when he gets back whether

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or not the beautiful three bedroom that he is looking

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at is really there, or if they have done something

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using that perception changer to make it look like that's

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what it is, when it's actually like some piece of shit,

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you know. And I just really like this was what

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I was saying when we were dealing with the goblins earlier,

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and then to talking about like the crawlers come here

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and we have to deal with them, but eventually we'll

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get to another floor. Clearly, everybody is being sold this

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bullshit climb the ladder, except the reverse sort of story

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where if you just work hard enough, you'll get somewhere

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where it's safe, where these people won't bother you. They're

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your enemy right now and you have to earn your way.

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And it's just obviously a fucking pipe dream for so

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many of them. And they are put in a place

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where they are being tormented for a game. Why would

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they just like let you get out of it eventually.

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Even if they do let you get out of it

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and go to a different floor, all of the floors

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have crawlers on them if you are, like, are up

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to the thirteenth floor, So how long could it possibly

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take you? You're not gonna make it. It's just so unlikely,

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you know. And so yeah, getting to know people makes

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them seem more real, and it makes them seem more empathetic,

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and you get more wrapped up in how they're doing

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and their story. And it's part of the reason why

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it's so funny to me how many people can just like,

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you know, create a stereotype of like, oh, you know,

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welfare queens, and they just make up this person that's

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somehow living large on welfare, which is like, that's not

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how welfare works unless you are invested in a very

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very elaborate fraud, which is extremely rare and unlikely. And

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they make this thing up, and then everybody just has

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it in their head that that's the majority of people

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on welfare, and of course this welfare queen is almost

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always black in the imagination, when in fact, the majority

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of people on welfare are white, And by dehumanizing them

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and making them seem like they're a scammer, anybody that's

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on welfare suddenly becomes suspect and suddenly maybe it doesn't

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deserve it, and maybe we should keep an eye on

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them and look at what's in their cart and maybe

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judge them on the fact that they are getting something

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that's like a little bit too nice for somebody poor.

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Do they really deserve to have that they didn't work

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for it, even though the majority of people on welfare

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do have jobs. It's just like, it's really kind of

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remarkable how quickly and effectively that takes hold, because we

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are often so eager to feel superior to other people.

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And then there's another aspect to this of like how

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we can watch a TV show where we're in the

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POV of a bad person, but we still root for

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them because we're in their POV and so we've come

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to identify with them even though they are actively trying

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to harm others and get away with bad things, but

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we're still sort of like, yeah, but I want to

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I'm here, I'm rooting for them. And it's just like

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very funny how we can go from this one extreme

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of blaming a completely innocent person for something that you

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don't know at all about them, but just comes from

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a range of like brainwashing techniques, or if you get

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to know a person really well, you start to justify

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literally everything they do and make it seem like the

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you know, whatever it is that they're inflicting on the

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world isn't that big a deal. And it's just a

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kind of like interesting phenomenon to me because we'll do

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this with our friends as well. We'll know somebody and

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we'll know that they did some shitty things, but we'll

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also kind of excuse it because there are bud or

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you know whatever, and it's just like how much we

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actually are personally invested in somebody It's like it cannot

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be overstated how much we change our standards of conduct

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for that person depending on what we know about them.

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So anyway, I just really this like repeated sort of

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we were going to go to a lower floor. I

475
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,240
expect that this is just going to be a thing

476
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:05,559
over and over again. So and also she keeps yelling

477
00:33:05,559 --> 00:33:08,400
for somebody named Damien to come and help, who doesn't.

478
00:33:08,519 --> 00:33:11,400
But later on when he brings up the name Damien

479
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:17,440
to oh my god, Mordecai, Mordecai gets very agitated that

480
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:23,079
he even knows that name. So that's interesting. I have

481
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,359
to assume again that this is like maybe maybe Damien

482
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,039
was the one that was like, oh, yeah, we're doing

483
00:33:28,079 --> 00:33:30,680
something good. Well, we're not blending you up into smoothies anymore,

484
00:33:30,839 --> 00:33:33,079
we're putting you in charge. Actually, like I bet he

485
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,599
was the fucking go between to make it seem like

486
00:33:35,759 --> 00:33:38,160
we're doing you such a favor. Look at how much

487
00:33:38,279 --> 00:33:47,759
more woke we are. So he like uses his uh

488
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,359
boom thing, he catches one of them and kills her,

489
00:33:51,119 --> 00:33:54,720
and he has like is hoping that when he kills her,

490
00:33:54,759 --> 00:33:58,960
it's just gonna be that her body like drops a potion.

491
00:33:59,599 --> 00:34:01,839
But that is not how it works. So he just

492
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:08,239
has to hold on to her, and uh, let's see.

493
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,199
I remember what Mordecai had said that the mobs and

494
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,599
deeper levels weren't going to be as sympathetic I really hoped.

495
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:16,440
So I needed to remember who the real enemies were,

496
00:34:16,559 --> 00:34:20,159
the syndicate born the Kua Teine. I felt bad about

497
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,960
killing monsters who were nothing more than ponds, but the

498
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,320
fact was we needed to get as strong as we could.

499
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,920
It was us or them, which, unfortunately at this point,

500
00:34:29,079 --> 00:34:37,840
seems to be true. So the Boss. The door to

501
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,719
the boss chamber looked like the entrance to some sort

502
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,519
of community center. It had live, Laugh, Love written on

503
00:34:42,559 --> 00:34:45,760
top of the door in little cutout wooden letters. Under

504
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,079
that was a schedule of events. The next event schedule

505
00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:50,400
was for noon on the day after the collapse. It

506
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,599
read good news everyone, Little Brian Lynn has the chicken pox.

507
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,360
I just need to take a moment to admire Brian Lynn.

508
00:35:00,199 --> 00:35:05,039
That's all one word. It's honestly perfect. It's such a

509
00:35:05,159 --> 00:35:09,559
perfect name for this exact demographic. Pop luck pox party

510
00:35:09,559 --> 00:35:15,400
here at noon, No peanuts, Let's get that immunity. So

511
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,800
he's saying, I think that maybe we shouldn't go into

512
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:23,039
the deal with the boss. I think that, like, we

513
00:35:23,159 --> 00:35:25,039
might not get out if we try and just blow

514
00:35:25,079 --> 00:35:27,760
it up. We don't know how many of these other

515
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,320
things are going to be in there, and they have

516
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:34,039
that taint debuff and Donut is on board with this.

517
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:41,360
So this is when he discovers that the bicycle things

518
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,840
are actually blenders and he gets the smoothie recipe and

519
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,760
it's just like, oh, oh gross, but he doesn't say

520
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,760
out loud what it is yet. We find this out

521
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:58,800
later and he puts together, oh, okay, this is set

522
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,840
up so that we figure this out just before we

523
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,119
fight the boss. But I don't want to drink this thing.

524
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,480
Let's just not go in there. And then the door

525
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:11,199
just opens and the AI says bosses can leave their rooms.

526
00:36:11,559 --> 00:36:18,119
Welcome to the second floor, bitches, and we Getaren the

527
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:25,159
Krakaren Clone Level ten neighborhood boss. First off, this isn't

528
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,079
the krak Karen. This is a Krakaren for everyone that

529
00:36:29,199 --> 00:36:34,559
is killed. Krakheren prime births two more part of a

530
00:36:34,599 --> 00:36:39,000
collective mind intent upon destroying any semblance of scientific progress

531
00:36:39,039 --> 00:36:41,719
in the universe. The kra Karen is the only communal

532
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,800
brain entity in the galaxy who actually gets stupider as

533
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:49,840
time moves on. Consisting of multiple shrieking tentacles, members of

534
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,679
the k Karen Cooperative spend their days birthing their disease

535
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:58,760
laden minions, creating and selling harmful products, attempting to debate

536
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:03,719
scientific experts, and proselytizing to the weak minded, all in

537
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,519
an attempt to well, nobody knows what the hell their

538
00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:13,800
end goal is. I swear to God, I know that

539
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,639
there is a lot in here that like I should

540
00:37:16,639 --> 00:37:21,079
probably take issue with. But it's very difficult because you guys,

541
00:37:21,199 --> 00:37:26,519
if this isn't also partially very very true, I don't

542
00:37:26,559 --> 00:37:30,239
know what is the rise. And if you are listening

543
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,440
to this and you yourself are an anti vaxxer and

544
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,199
you had an issue with this representation, I am so sorry.

545
00:37:37,199 --> 00:37:38,880
But maybe look at the fact that you're an anti

546
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,440
vaxxer and just like reevaluate what that means, because it's

547
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:49,360
incredibly foolish and shortsighted and self centered and just it's

548
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:56,159
fucking twenty twenty five. Grow up. But I so part

549
00:37:56,159 --> 00:37:59,760
of the thing for me is that Karen is something

550
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,639
that actually this like has evolved into what we just

551
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:11,000
call difficult women, especially difficult white women. But what it

552
00:38:11,079 --> 00:38:15,079
had used to be was a particular type of white

553
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:20,400
women who would bully oftentimes black women, sometimes black people

554
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:25,239
in general. And it really was like the type that

555
00:38:25,599 --> 00:38:28,559
would see a black person walking in their neighborhood and

556
00:38:28,599 --> 00:38:32,079
like call the cops. That was what Karen originally meant.

557
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,400
And then over time it just became the thing that

558
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,360
people just called a woman that was annoying them, and

559
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:44,159
so it really lost its like ultimate meaning. But I

560
00:38:44,199 --> 00:38:47,159
still think that it applies here because honestly, if I'm

561
00:38:47,199 --> 00:38:51,440
thinking Karen now, I definitely also have like racist and

562
00:38:51,559 --> 00:38:56,239
anti vaxer together. Apologies if your name is Karen. That's

563
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:01,039
just something that happens sometimes. But I just really, uh,

564
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,920
I understood exactly what he was doing, and I couldn't

565
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:19,119
help but support. So I am this this thing. He

566
00:39:19,199 --> 00:39:21,920
has to make the smoothie, and he has to he

567
00:39:22,039 --> 00:39:28,079
describes trying to get the fairy into the bottle that

568
00:39:28,119 --> 00:39:34,280
he will use to make the blender like shoving a

569
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,039
uh what is it that he says, I'm sorry, guys,

570
00:39:38,079 --> 00:39:40,199
I'm trying to remember. I think he says, like a

571
00:39:40,519 --> 00:39:44,880
shoving a cornish game hen into a bottle. Oh. Here

572
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,719
it is trying to stuff us a cornish game hen

573
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:52,000
into a thermos, which her body is like still warm.

574
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,599
The whole way that he literally has to consume the

575
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:03,480
enemy to make this work is so gross and so bonkers.

576
00:40:04,079 --> 00:40:08,480
So he blends it and then he has to drink it.

577
00:40:09,159 --> 00:40:14,719
And the description here it was it tasted as if

578
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,079
I'd taken a drink directly from the diseased asshole of

579
00:40:18,119 --> 00:40:22,280
an incontinent skunk. It took all of my strength not

580
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:28,599
to vomit, honestly, that is vivid. I have to hand

581
00:40:28,639 --> 00:40:34,360
it to him, and of course he winds up getting buzzed,

582
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,639
which later on, as he is feeling this, he's like, wow,

583
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,039
what is this shit face? Deep Buff like, because I

584
00:40:40,159 --> 00:40:44,559
feel fucked up right now actually, and the two of

585
00:40:44,599 --> 00:40:47,800
them are having to like fight these things while there's

586
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,480
a weird sort of shaky cam at Deep Buff that

587
00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:56,119
happens where he's like, woozy, my health already in the

588
00:40:56,159 --> 00:40:59,440
red moved further down. The monster didn't seem to realize

589
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,239
what it has. I watched as it grasped on the

590
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,599
last standing chloricon wrapping around him. The mouths stopped screaming,

591
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,559
all revealing long, sharp teeth as they pulled the shrieking

592
00:41:09,599 --> 00:41:13,000
monster back into the boss room, chewing. It returned a

593
00:41:13,039 --> 00:41:17,719
moment later, blood dripping from the mouths, which resumed their catterwall.

594
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:25,400
And then there is a tentacle with just orifices. A longer,

595
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,599
thinner arm reached into the room and made a noise

596
00:41:28,679 --> 00:41:32,599
like a spray bottle. A fine green mist filled the chamber.

597
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,119
You've been infected with the vigorous measles infection negated due

598
00:41:37,199 --> 00:41:42,719
to immunity. At this point, Donut says, if we die,

599
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,079
I want you to know that I love you, Carl.

600
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,039
I don't love you as much as I love Miss

601
00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:50,440
Beatrice because she's you know, she's my person, or as

602
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,519
much as I love Ferdinand, But I love you focus, Donut,

603
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,199
I said. I tried not to let what she'd said sting,

604
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,880
but it did. Who the fuck was Ferdinand? Anyway? B

605
00:42:03,199 --> 00:42:05,639
was going to give you up, Donut. She was giving

606
00:42:05,679 --> 00:42:09,039
you up, trading you in for a younger model. But

607
00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:12,239
I didn't say it, not out loud. Now was not

608
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,039
the time for that conversation. Never was that time for

609
00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:18,800
the con was the time for that conversation, not anymore,

610
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,800
but especially not now, not when Bee was fucking dead.

611
00:42:24,199 --> 00:42:28,000
This was so interesting because I really got the impression

612
00:42:28,039 --> 00:42:32,280
that b was like obsessed with donut and knowing that

613
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,440
she was going to trade up. First of all, what

614
00:42:36,679 --> 00:42:41,440
precisely does that mean? Was she going to put donut down?

615
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:47,159
I have to assume not that wasn't it right giving

616
00:42:47,199 --> 00:42:51,760
you up? I would The thing is, though, what like

617
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,519
he was fighting to keep donut when he felt like

618
00:42:55,679 --> 00:42:58,480
be or her father would definitely come after him to

619
00:42:58,519 --> 00:43:03,199
take donut away, which doesn't exactly align with she was

620
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:09,559
going to give you up. I don't know, but I

621
00:43:09,639 --> 00:43:16,920
this like, honestly, the picture that he keeps painting of Beatrice,

622
00:43:18,519 --> 00:43:23,440
you really do start to be like, Carl, what did

623
00:43:23,519 --> 00:43:30,760
you like about her? Guy? What about her made you

624
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:35,679
want to stay at all? It just seems like there

625
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,400
was very little to recommend her. You know, everything that

626
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:44,039
he has been saying about his time with her has

627
00:43:44,119 --> 00:43:49,679
been riddled with her being like incredibly selfish or just

628
00:43:50,199 --> 00:43:52,559
you know, a shitty person, and then finding out that

629
00:43:52,599 --> 00:43:55,199
he was cheating on her, that she was cheating on

630
00:43:55,280 --> 00:44:00,440
him with multiple people. Also, you know, there's just are

631
00:44:00,519 --> 00:44:04,360
that I'm like, maybe this is part of him having

632
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,480
a father who is such a bully that he winds

633
00:44:08,599 --> 00:44:13,760
up seeking out the familiar, which is a bully. Maybe

634
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:18,079
it's just that simple that she felt like a familiar

635
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:23,079
type due to the fact that she It's an interesting

636
00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:25,800
thing that I'm reading this other book right now and

637
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:31,960
somebody says, are you happy? And the person says yes.

638
00:44:32,039 --> 00:44:34,679
And they say, but you make other people unhappy, and

639
00:44:34,679 --> 00:44:37,119
the person says, yes, I think that's also true. And

640
00:44:37,159 --> 00:44:41,599
they said, okay, so you make other people unhappy, but

641
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:51,039
you are still happy. That is significant. And the person replies, well,

642
00:44:51,199 --> 00:44:55,679
everybody is in charge of their own destiny. Basically, whether

643
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,519
other people are happy is really up to them, not me.

644
00:45:00,119 --> 00:45:06,280
And the psychiatrist they're speaking with says, well, but you

645
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:12,559
are driven and intelligent. You're a more powerful person than

646
00:45:12,599 --> 00:45:14,920
a lot of people out there. And they sort of

647
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,239
shrug and are like, well yeah, and they say the

648
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:22,119
psychiatrist says, so taking that is truth. This means that

649
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:26,159
you have a certain amount of power and you use

650
00:45:26,199 --> 00:45:29,559
it to make other people unhappy, which means you're a bully.

651
00:45:30,519 --> 00:45:33,880
Because if you have a certain amount of power and

652
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,039
you have the like you inherently have the choice of

653
00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:41,239
either protecting people who are less powerful than you or

654
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:46,519
exploiting them. And you're choosing to exploit them, You're a bully.

655
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,079
And unless you're a sociopath, and I don't think you are,

656
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,559
Someday you are going to have to reckon with the

657
00:45:54,559 --> 00:45:57,639
fact that this is how you've chosen to live your life.

658
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,159
It's going to catch up with you. And the person

659
00:46:01,199 --> 00:46:04,000
they're speaking with just has a moment of like, you know,

660
00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:07,880
that thousand yard stare into the distance of like realizing

661
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,360
what he is saying is true, and then gets kind

662
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:14,159
of angry because he truly like fucking read them for

663
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:20,920
filth basically. And so this is what like I'm wondering

664
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:29,159
about b is, Like was she just such a dynamic

665
00:46:29,559 --> 00:46:36,079
and driven person that she sort of overwhelmed him? You know?

666
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,159
Because I could see how that could happen. I think

667
00:46:39,159 --> 00:46:44,599
I have been that person for some people. And you

668
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,960
just tolerate a lot if you have been taught during

669
00:46:48,039 --> 00:46:52,000
other portions of your life to tolerate a lot. But

670
00:46:52,599 --> 00:46:55,840
I can't help but wonder if like, as this goes on,

671
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,079
he's gonna start asking himself the same question, like why

672
00:46:59,199 --> 00:47:01,840
was I with her? I don't even remember you know,

673
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:07,039
and reminder, it doesn't seem like Donut has any real

674
00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:11,840
concept that she's dead, so he isn't telling Donut she

675
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,599
was going to trade you up, but he's not telling

676
00:47:13,679 --> 00:47:19,199
her because B is dead and Donut doesn't know that

677
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,320
B is dead. So he's probably going to have to

678
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:28,320
eventually have that conversation. Also that just like, I mean,

679
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,400
maybe he won't. I don't know. I feel like, how

680
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,840
long can this possibly be sustained? Though? It will have

681
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,320
to come up at some point because there's been so

682
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,039
many mentions via the AI of like, oh, so and so,

683
00:47:43,119 --> 00:47:45,679
too bad, they're probably dead, you know. I feel like

684
00:47:46,599 --> 00:47:51,679
there has to eventually come a moment where either Donut

685
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,280
puts two and two together and has kind of a meltdown,

686
00:47:55,039 --> 00:47:58,960
or where Donut confesses that she has been in denial

687
00:47:59,119 --> 00:48:02,280
but she is perfect aware that B is probably dead.

688
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:12,880
You know. Anyway, this the way that this fight eventually goes.

689
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:20,920
He overdoes it with the dynamite. Donut is immediately like

690
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,599
I thought you said the explosion was going to be

691
00:48:22,679 --> 00:48:25,440
too big to use it in here. I looked at

692
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,239
my health already perilously low. Donut didn't have a scratch

693
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:33,559
on her it probably is, and I'm probably about to die,

694
00:48:33,639 --> 00:48:38,599
but I think you'll be okay, Carl. No, No, it's okay.

695
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,119
Go back to Brandon. They'll watch over you. I wrapped

696
00:48:42,119 --> 00:48:44,920
myself around the cat. I don't want to do this

697
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,519
without you, Carl, I lied before. I won't be fine

698
00:48:47,519 --> 00:48:51,360
on my own. I need you. No, no, I couldn't

699
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:55,320
answer her before the explosion came. I feel like him

700
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:59,519
doing this is really going to uptick their popularity. He

701
00:48:59,599 --> 00:49:03,599
was very willing to sacrifice himself and doing that for

702
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,320
a pet is going to earn you a lot of points.

703
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:11,679
It just is, it really will. And also I do

704
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:17,159
have to mention that, like he just had his feelings

705
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:21,599
hurt by Donut saying that, like, I love you not

706
00:49:21,679 --> 00:49:26,360
as much as be but you know, there is some

707
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,239
part of me that's like, do you feel like you

708
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:32,079
have to prove something, buddy, because that's the vibe I'm

709
00:49:32,079 --> 00:49:35,480
getting here A little bit is like I'll show you

710
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,280
she was going to trade you up, but I'll literally

711
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,159
die for you, even though it's not like she's gonna

712
00:49:41,199 --> 00:49:45,800
like understand this comparison that's happening. But still, I it

713
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,679
did enter my mind that maybe he had something to prove,

714
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:55,599
That's all I'm saying. And he doesn't die, he does

715
00:49:55,679 --> 00:49:59,840
have his legs broken, and when he wakes up, his

716
00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:02,280
your drums are busted and she's yelling and he can't

717
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,519
hear her, so she has to speak to him through

718
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,000
the chat and tells him we killed the boss. That

719
00:50:08,079 --> 00:50:12,639
doors open, but the fire is getting closer. Hurry, and

720
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:17,199
eventually she has to drag him, which it's super lucky

721
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,199
that her strength is as high as it is. And

722
00:50:21,079 --> 00:50:23,480
she says something about how he needs to work on

723
00:50:23,519 --> 00:50:26,920
his cardio, but as we know, he's actually in pretty

724
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,480
solid shape, so that's probably not it. He's probably real

725
00:50:29,559 --> 00:50:34,639
heavy because he's muscular. But yeah, this is delightful and precious.

726
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,920
It's like it didn't even occur to him to not

727
00:50:37,079 --> 00:50:40,639
do this for Donut. This is a hero, straight up.

728
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,960
I awakened my body screaming. I felt everything inside of

729
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,719
me repair itself. Donut had used one of the healing scrolls,

730
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,519
possibly at the last possible second. I jammed down on

731
00:50:56,559 --> 00:50:59,199
my healing spells, also was sped up the process. I

732
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,880
felt my hearing return, my sight restored, the burn on

733
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,760
my face smoothed out. I didn't move for several moments,

734
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,239
sitting there staring up the ceiling of the hallway. You

735
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,320
saved me again, I said to the cat, that's what

736
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:17,079
I do, donut. I don't want to say this out loud,

737
00:51:17,119 --> 00:51:20,119
but our views went way up. Isn't it great? I

738
00:51:20,159 --> 00:51:22,119
really do love that. She just can't help but type

739
00:51:22,119 --> 00:51:25,360
in all caps all the time. It's just her. She's

740
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:30,599
a little bit of a boomer. It's fine. I think

741
00:51:30,639 --> 00:51:33,559
I was saved by that damn pedicure kit. I said,

742
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,519
the table should have severed my feet right at the angles.

743
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,519
Instead it bounced off and broke my legs. I would

744
00:51:40,559 --> 00:51:46,880
have bled out. I it's like the idea that it

745
00:51:47,079 --> 00:51:51,480
would break it broke his legs, but that it would

746
00:51:51,519 --> 00:51:55,840
have been worse if he let you know what I'm saying.

747
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,719
That is really scary to me. The idea of like,

748
00:52:01,159 --> 00:52:05,199
you die because you bled out when your legs got

749
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:11,880
cut off. Friends, that's that's a really awful way to die.

750
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:21,079
I just there's something about your feet and how essential

751
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:27,000
they are for like our survival in certain circumstances that

752
00:52:27,679 --> 00:52:31,039
whenever that's the thing that goes first, I have a

753
00:52:31,199 --> 00:52:38,519
very intense visceral reaction similar thing to like, there's some

754
00:52:38,639 --> 00:52:40,920
horror movie where the bad guy is hiding under a

755
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,760
car and he slices their achilles tendons as they're walking by,

756
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,719
and so they just can't get up and run, and

757
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:55,920
it's just its bad. So what I'm saying is, even

758
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,880
though the AI is a creep, a kind of a

759
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,719
appreciate that it's protecting his feet the way that it is,

760
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,760
because it feels like that's actually a lot more valuable

761
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:17,760
than Carl completely understands. So let's see they Oh, yeah,

762
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:22,559
they're looking at the Kirkaeren and uh, he says, I

763
00:53:22,679 --> 00:53:26,880
suspected the Kirkeren Collective was a real thing the whole

764
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,480
time it had seen they were just combining absurd stereotypes

765
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,800
from Earth with random monsters just to fuck with us.

766
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,280
It came to me, now as I stared up at

767
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,960
this thing, that they were doing the opposite. This is

768
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,360
really for the benefit of the audience, not us. They

769
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,679
were taking something familiar to the viewers, like these interstellar

770
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,599
dumbass octopus monsters and combining them with an Earth analog

771
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,039
in an effort to both teach the watchers about Earth

772
00:53:49,039 --> 00:53:53,320
culture and to lampoon Interstellar cultures and creatures they felt

773
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,679
deserving of scorn, kind of like the way cartoonists would

774
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,840
sometimes personify rats and snakes as scumbags, or foxes as

775
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:09,159
shady used car dealers, or persian cats as princesses. And

776
00:54:09,199 --> 00:54:13,480
this is when he sees on the map fifty brindle

777
00:54:13,519 --> 00:54:18,079
grubs at least heading toward them, which makes sense later

778
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,559
why when they open the door there are so many

779
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,639
right there. So they go to the safe room or

780
00:54:24,679 --> 00:54:28,440
the Tutorio guild sorry, and Mordecai is there, and he

781
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:33,440
is incensed about what Odette said, and he says, I

782
00:54:33,519 --> 00:54:38,280
want to note I would rather spend another two thousand

783
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:48,000
years in this room another. You say, that's a long time,

784
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,440
read that fine print when the time comes, Carl, That's

785
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:58,679
all I'm saying. I'd rather meet a woman's sire children

786
00:54:58,679 --> 00:55:01,079
and then devour those children and then have anything to

787
00:55:01,159 --> 00:55:06,079
do with her again. He, by the way, is no

788
00:55:06,199 --> 00:55:09,679
longer a rat hooligan. He is a bugaboo, which is

789
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:15,360
essentially some kind of like creepy rapist monster. And he

790
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,159
can only say, like stay away from Alley's at night

791
00:55:19,519 --> 00:55:23,280
on the third floor, which Carl responds to with like

792
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:28,719
night because they don't have night and day, and he says,

793
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,719
I can't tell you about that, and we get this,

794
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:35,000
like mentioned later that since they are popular, and since

795
00:55:35,039 --> 00:55:38,360
people can see inside the tutorial guilds like they do

796
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:43,599
film in here, now that there is more attention on them,

797
00:55:44,119 --> 00:55:47,440
he can't play as fast and loose with giving them

798
00:55:47,599 --> 00:55:51,320
hints as he used to be able to do. And

799
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,480
I for one, am devastated. Now it's going to have

800
00:55:54,519 --> 00:55:56,920
to be a lot more in code. He was doing

801
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:58,920
his best to help. I believe he still will do

802
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,119
his best to help. Obviously getting them to the fourth

803
00:56:01,159 --> 00:56:06,719
Floori's paramount to him. But I just hate that now

804
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:11,480
he is more restricted than he was. It is kind

805
00:56:11,519 --> 00:56:15,159
of like a smart idea, though, to put these things

806
00:56:15,199 --> 00:56:19,039
together for the sake of like, yes, it's an advantage

807
00:56:19,039 --> 00:56:20,960
for them to level up and to get more eyes

808
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,920
on them and get more popular, But there is also

809
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:27,480
a different downside, and that is their guy isn't going

810
00:56:27,519 --> 00:56:29,440
to be able to help them the same way anymore.

811
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:37,960
So the let's see if she invites us back on

812
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,400
the show, Should we go? Oh, you should go. Her

813
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,679
program is one of the few I would recommend, not

814
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,159
that they give you much of a choice, and later

815
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,000
on we find out about like the way that this

816
00:56:49,119 --> 00:56:50,639
is going to be handled, and they're actually going to

817
00:56:50,679 --> 00:56:55,039
get their own pr agent. This is when he mentions

818
00:56:55,159 --> 00:56:58,559
Damien it was a mob of fairy she called for

819
00:56:58,639 --> 00:57:02,679
him just before we killed her. Those damn theories. They're

820
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:06,639
always getting themselves in trouble. Damien is a local manager.

821
00:57:07,039 --> 00:57:10,320
Each city area has one. There are only three for

822
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:14,000
this floor. He's my manager's manager. You're not supposed to

823
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,920
see or know about him. I'm only allowed to tell

824
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:17,679
you about the sort of stuff if you asked directly.

825
00:57:20,199 --> 00:57:22,679
We spent some time talking about the borough Boss fight

826
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,400
and the last fight with the kirk Karen, but it's

827
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,360
very clear they're going to see another kirk Karen in

828
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:32,199
the future. I asked him about Agatha, about them editing

829
00:57:32,239 --> 00:57:35,079
her out. He waved it off. They probably didn't want

830
00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:39,280
to confuse the narrative again. I could sense there was

831
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,559
more there. I tried not to let my frustration show.

832
00:57:44,159 --> 00:57:46,239
I told him my theory about how they were combining

833
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:52,559
real aliens with Earth stereotypes. Mordecai looked equally frustrated. He paused,

834
00:57:52,599 --> 00:57:58,719
as if thinking hard, that's mostly correct again, it's not

835
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,719
really something I can disc But this isn't exactly some

836
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:05,360
big secret either. Some of these monsters are made by AI,

837
00:58:05,519 --> 00:58:08,039
some are simply the actual creatures from their world, the

838
00:58:08,119 --> 00:58:12,039
Tuskling's ball of swine, for example, and some like you've

839
00:58:12,079 --> 00:58:15,199
deduced or created by a team of writers. Like anything

840
00:58:15,199 --> 00:58:16,920
that's been put together by a team, what you end

841
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,719
up with can vary wildly. Those lamas, for example, they're

842
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:22,760
unique to your planet, and I don't recall anything in

843
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:26,000
your culture that suggests they should be anthropomorphized as drug

844
00:58:26,039 --> 00:58:29,599
dealing gang bangers. Someone just thought it'd be an interesting combo.

845
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:34,119
Not everything will be social commentary. It's usually just stupid,

846
00:58:34,239 --> 00:58:38,840
I muttered. It's entertainment, Mordecai said, once again, reminding me

847
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:42,000
of something Odette had said. There was a much deeper

848
00:58:42,079 --> 00:58:46,280
story there between those two. I wondered if I'd ever learn.

849
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:51,760
I just love that this is basically the author being like, hey, guys,

850
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,079
don't try and analyze all of my weird creatures, because

851
00:58:55,119 --> 00:58:58,119
it's not going to do anything that's not like, you know.

852
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,119
That's just very much what it felt like to me

853
00:59:00,559 --> 00:59:02,400
was him just giving us a little bit of a

854
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,000
nod and being like, yo, I know that y'all are

855
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:08,199
going to want to find meaning in all of these

856
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:12,039
and kind of don't bother, which I think is like

857
00:59:12,079 --> 00:59:13,559
it didn't even occur to me to try and look

858
00:59:13,599 --> 00:59:17,599
further into the lamas. They're delightful, bad lama. I mean,

859
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,679
it's fantastic, and that is it, and I just immediately

860
00:59:20,719 --> 00:59:23,239
moved on and never thought any more about it. So

861
00:59:23,519 --> 00:59:31,280
apparently that was the right instinct new achievement Dragon Dono. Sorry,

862
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:35,480
dungeon preneur, you've invented a stackable weapon device or potion.

863
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,159
You will be memorialized for eternity with your name in

864
00:59:38,199 --> 00:59:41,119
the Dungeon Codex. Just don't let it go to your head,

865
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,960
ey lawn. For every kill made with this device by

866
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:48,280
other crawlers, you will receive a single gold coin. If

867
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,800
you survived the Dungeon. You will continue to receive this

868
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,039
benefit even during future seasons at the current gold to

869
00:59:54,079 --> 00:59:56,679
credit exchange rate, for the remainder of your natural life.

870
00:59:57,079 --> 00:59:58,920
Our lawyers made us put that last part in, but

871
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:00,639
between you and me, we both no, you're going to

872
01:00:00,679 --> 01:00:02,519
die and or going to keep using your hard work

873
01:00:02,559 --> 01:00:05,719
for our own benefit, which if that isn't the truest

874
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:09,719
fucking thing, just the idea like this is so, this

875
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:14,559
is completely on brand, he says, interesting, it was too

876
01:00:14,599 --> 01:00:18,679
bad nobody else would ever use these things. The main ingredient,

877
01:00:18,719 --> 01:00:23,119
the jug of moonshine, was probably pretty rare. I was like,

878
01:00:23,519 --> 01:00:25,880
I don't know, dude, I bet that that's not as

879
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,719
rare as you think it is. There's a mention at

880
01:00:28,719 --> 01:00:35,320
one point about like on floors, what three, six nine,

881
01:00:35,679 --> 01:00:41,599
it's like every multiple of three that there are like

882
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,679
stills or something. I feel like maybe he will make

883
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:50,280
some money off of this. I don't know. He opens

884
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:55,360
the boss box. Don't say anything, don't say anything out loud.

885
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,400
I couldn't help it. I looked up at the ceiling

886
01:00:59,039 --> 01:01:04,880
really fucking really behind me. Mordecai laughed, but a moment

887
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:08,960
later he added, well, that's actually a really good prize.

888
01:01:09,079 --> 01:01:12,039
It was a white pair of boxers covered in little

889
01:01:12,079 --> 01:01:16,000
red hearts. God damn it, I muttered as I examined them.

890
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,840
This is delightful. First of all, I believe on the

891
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:23,039
cover he is depicted as wearing white boxers with little

892
01:01:23,079 --> 01:01:26,559
red hearts, and I assumed that this was simply the

893
01:01:26,639 --> 01:01:30,199
artist interpretation of him having been outside in boxers, and

894
01:01:30,239 --> 01:01:32,079
I was like, oh, that makes sense that you would

895
01:01:32,079 --> 01:01:34,039
put him in that for like the comedic effect of

896
01:01:34,079 --> 01:01:38,039
the drawing. I never thought about the fact that, like, no,

897
01:01:38,199 --> 01:01:40,639
this is an actual item that he is going to

898
01:01:40,679 --> 01:01:48,039
get later on. So that's delightful. And uh, the have

899
01:01:48,119 --> 01:01:52,360
the enchanted Big Boy Boxers as the name. Have you

900
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,559
ever read an Incredible Hulk comic? I thought to yourself,

901
01:01:54,679 --> 01:01:58,760
everything rips off his body except his pants. No way. Well,

902
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,400
spoiler alert, You're not wrong. Size altering and wear creatures

903
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,559
such as the Big Boy are required to wear enchanted

904
01:02:04,599 --> 01:02:06,679
self sizing items lest they wish to turn the dungeon

905
01:02:06,719 --> 01:02:09,960
into a nudist colony when they transform. That means everything

906
01:02:10,039 --> 01:02:14,400
they wear requires an enchantment everything including their naughty little

907
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:19,599
undies plus two to constitution. Wearer may cast a level

908
01:02:19,639 --> 01:02:25,840
fifteen protective shell once every thirty hours and duration five

909
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:29,480
seconds plus one second per level of spell target three

910
01:02:29,559 --> 01:02:33,559
meter radius plus fifty centimeters of radius per level of intelligence.

911
01:02:35,119 --> 01:02:38,000
A favorite of frontline tanks and castle guards, The expensive

912
01:02:38,039 --> 01:02:41,400
and rare protective shell spell shields a caster and anyone

913
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,639
within the sphere from a mob's physical presence or physical attacks.

914
01:02:45,119 --> 01:02:49,119
This spell does not protect against magic or against non

915
01:02:49,199 --> 01:02:54,280
corporeal entities. This shield spell does not move with you.

916
01:02:54,960 --> 01:03:00,000
This spell's area of effect remains static once cast, unimpas

917
01:03:00,239 --> 01:03:03,239
by your physical surroundings. So if you use the spell

918
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,920
only when you really really need it, you're probably only

919
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:10,679
delaying me inevitable by a few seconds. And Mordecai starts

920
01:03:10,719 --> 01:03:14,880
to say it has a fantastic secondary effect since the

921
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:19,199
spell doesn't move once cast, you can and then they

922
01:03:19,239 --> 01:03:22,679
get interrupted by the arrival of a kuatine and I

923
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:26,400
was so annoyed. And of course, at the end of

924
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,679
the conversation, like Carl's just about to open the door

925
01:03:28,679 --> 01:03:31,400
and walk out, he does not remember to ask Mordecai.

926
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:36,239
So what I keep trying to like determine is how

927
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:41,159
you would use something like this to protect, Like if

928
01:03:41,519 --> 01:03:44,840
you can leave the area that it is in, is

929
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:49,199
it possible to use it as like a solid object somehow?

930
01:03:50,159 --> 01:03:52,519
Even if you could, though, who cares because he's got

931
01:03:52,519 --> 01:03:54,800
a bunch of other things in his inventory that he

932
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,800
can actually use the solid objects because they are solid objects.

933
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:03,719
So what advantage is that serve? I'm trying to like

934
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:09,239
imagine using it to sort of I don't know there's

935
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,800
something here, and I'm very interested to see if Carl

936
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:18,480
figures it out. So chapter thirty six, the Kuatine is

937
01:04:18,599 --> 01:04:23,679
two feet tall and she is wearing a particular type

938
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:29,280
of water tank over her head that Mordecai mentions is

939
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:34,039
like really antiquated and says, why are you wearing this?

940
01:04:34,079 --> 01:04:37,880
And she says because of the armor. If other people

941
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:41,320
want to come down here without protection, that's their business.

942
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:45,760
And when Mordecai is sort of like, I really don't

943
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:49,079
think you need to worry about danger down here, she says,

944
01:04:50,239 --> 01:04:53,039
tell that to those twelve workers in site prep. Did

945
01:04:53,039 --> 01:04:56,679
you see this morning's update they were swallowed whole or

946
01:04:56,719 --> 01:04:59,440
that human admin who didn't realize the no urinating in

947
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,639
the dungeon rule applied to everyone, they said, All that

948
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:07,400
was left was splatter on the floor. I really enjoy this,

949
01:05:07,519 --> 01:05:09,880
as well as her little monologue that she gets later,

950
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:15,159
all of this serving to remind us that even though

951
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:19,639
these people work for the enemy, they aren't getting treated

952
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:24,199
any better. They are just as subject to the fucking

953
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:29,000
whims of the folks in charge as everybody else. Now

954
01:05:30,719 --> 01:05:36,360
there's a caveat here. It's not it's difficult because here's

955
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:44,199
the thing that happens. It makes sense, fully that you

956
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,920
begin to have sympathy for other people who are also

957
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:52,360
being put in an impossible position. And I think you should,

958
01:05:52,519 --> 01:05:55,440
and I think if you don't, there's something weird about

959
01:05:55,440 --> 01:06:01,840
you that you need to examine. However, I also feel

960
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:07,559
that this is another tactic of the people in charge,

961
01:06:08,079 --> 01:06:11,960
is that they make you feel responsible for the other

962
01:06:12,119 --> 01:06:15,280
folks who are at your level in a way that

963
01:06:15,599 --> 01:06:20,320
they don't feel responsible themselves, even though they are actually responsible.

964
01:06:21,039 --> 01:06:26,519
And what I'm saying is, for example, let's say you

965
01:06:26,599 --> 01:06:29,119
work somewhere that's understaffed, and they keep telling you they're

966
01:06:29,119 --> 01:06:31,480
going to hire more people, and they keep not doing that,

967
01:06:31,519 --> 01:06:34,199
and so every day you're always just a little behind

968
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:37,440
all fucking day and super stressful. And then one day

969
01:06:37,639 --> 01:06:41,719
you're sick and you go to call in and your

970
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,239
boss is kind of shitty about the fact that you know,

971
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,159
we're shorthanded and you're just leaving us in the lurch.

972
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:51,000
What about your friends here, you're letting them down? Well, no,

973
01:06:52,079 --> 01:06:56,119
I'm not. You know that people have to call out sometimes,

974
01:06:56,159 --> 01:06:58,400
and you've been saying you will hire people, and then

975
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:04,159
you don't. Now it's my problem. Oh really, but it's not.

976
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,880
It's fucking not. It's their problem. And they just pretend

977
01:07:08,079 --> 01:07:11,559
it's your problem because you're the one being exploited, so

978
01:07:11,599 --> 01:07:16,760
you're the one that's going you know. And the guilt

979
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:20,599
trip here is very very effective on those of us

980
01:07:20,599 --> 01:07:23,880
who feel some sort of obligation to our fellow workers

981
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,039
a lot of the time. And so that was what

982
01:07:26,079 --> 01:07:29,360
occurs to me when she Odette mentions that Mordecai needs

983
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:30,920
them to get to the fourth floor in order for

984
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:38,159
like his inventured servitude to be up. It just felt

985
01:07:38,159 --> 01:07:40,440
to me like, oh, the pressure is on, not just

986
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,000
for yourself but also for him, and that feels like

987
01:07:43,119 --> 01:07:47,840
really manipulative. And then here finding out that, like all

988
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:50,039
of these other people who are involved in this thing,

989
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:53,760
she is literally she says, her family is being held

990
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:57,320
basically at gunpoint, that if she fucks up, her whole

991
01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:02,440
family is going to die. So she is in almost

992
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,519
a worse position than Karl in some ways, because Carl

993
01:08:05,599 --> 01:08:09,199
at least he's got nobody left but Donut, and this

994
01:08:09,239 --> 01:08:11,840
woman has a lot more left to lose. I say, woman,

995
01:08:12,079 --> 01:08:18,600
you know whatever. So it's like everybody is getting fucked

996
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:26,520
here in this way that is, it's just so like

997
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:30,319
that there's just so many levels of manipulation in it

998
01:08:30,359 --> 01:08:34,039
that it's it's really gross that the people who seem

999
01:08:34,079 --> 01:08:37,359
to have no empathy can use empathy as a weapon

1000
01:08:38,399 --> 01:08:45,319
this way. It's just deeply fucked up. Anyway, she explains

1001
01:08:45,359 --> 01:08:48,840
to them that she is going to be their new

1002
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:53,359
pr agent because they are popular enough that the requests

1003
01:08:53,359 --> 01:08:56,000
for interviews are going to get kind of like too much.

1004
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:59,640
And she says, they make me come down here and

1005
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,319
talk to you directly after interviews for a deep briefing,

1006
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:08,239
and Donat of course, is super excited and is like, oh,

1007
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,000
can we provide advanced riders like with makeup and green

1008
01:09:11,079 --> 01:09:15,600
room requirements? Which I would love if they could do that.

1009
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,319
This question does not really really get answered, but I

1010
01:09:18,359 --> 01:09:21,880
would like to cover this later because who knows what

1011
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:25,159
advantages you could get if you set that up. Carl

1012
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,319
is much more like, okay, so can we just like

1013
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:30,159
not interview then? Is that something we're allowed to like

1014
01:09:30,239 --> 01:09:34,079
just turn down? And she's like yeah, but Odette has

1015
01:09:34,159 --> 01:09:36,560
contracted with us, so she gets first right of refusal

1016
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,520
and you're locked into those you'll go on her show

1017
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:43,920
if you keep your numbers up. You can refuse what

1018
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,399
show you go on, but I'm afraid you'll be obligated

1019
01:09:46,399 --> 01:09:49,600
to pick something. We might move to three interviews for

1020
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:53,000
the lower floors, depending on how it's going. Whatever happens,

1021
01:09:53,039 --> 01:09:55,479
I promise I'll do my best to get you quality gigs.

1022
01:09:56,359 --> 01:09:58,439
For this first one. I went ahead and chose a

1023
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:01,760
program for you. It's a little less serious than Odath's show,

1024
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,119
but we'll hit a demographic you aren't yet trending in.

1025
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:10,279
I less serious like Odath's show is fluff. So what

1026
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:15,279
is less serious like? I'm concerned. It's a round table

1027
01:10:15,359 --> 01:10:18,760
style discussion. And in this program, all crawlers get a

1028
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:22,439
parting gift. Sometimes it's a joke, but it's usually something

1029
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:26,119
useful a gift. Donut, said Carl. We get a gift.

1030
01:10:27,359 --> 01:10:30,920
I am so donut, you guys. As soon as she

1031
01:10:31,039 --> 01:10:33,279
was like, and you get a present, I was like, ooh, presence.

1032
01:10:33,359 --> 01:10:36,680
I swear to God, you guys, it's just I am

1033
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:42,600
what I am? Are we doing this now? I asked?

1034
01:10:43,319 --> 01:10:45,479
No Zev said, I'll pin you when it's time. It'll

1035
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:49,560
be at minus six plus one full. I felt a sudden,

1036
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:54,359
unexpected wave of rage at this fishwoman. It came out

1037
01:10:54,359 --> 01:10:56,359
of nowhere, and I didn't know what set it off.

1038
01:10:57,039 --> 01:10:59,279
I couldn't help it. She was the enemy and I

1039
01:10:59,279 --> 01:11:07,359
couldn't do anything about it. So she like explains, six

1040
01:11:07,399 --> 01:11:09,680
hours before the next recap, not the one tonight, but

1041
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:13,680
the next one, so in about forty hours, you should

1042
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,439
try to line up a major boss battle right as

1043
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:18,000
the floor closes, like you did last time. That really

1044
01:11:18,039 --> 01:11:22,239
worked in your favor. That rage, which I thought I

1045
01:11:22,279 --> 01:11:27,159
had successfully held back, bubbled up and out and he

1046
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:34,119
loses his shit and he is like, with respect, fuck you,

1047
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,600
we are literally just trying to stay alive, and you're

1048
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:40,880
worried about when we schedule boss battles when they apparently

1049
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,279
can fucking just leave their rooms, by the way, so

1050
01:11:43,359 --> 01:11:46,800
it's not like it's that much up to them. I

1051
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:49,399
am doing what you have asked. I am killing monsters,

1052
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:52,279
trying to level up, trying to survive. I will smile,

1053
01:11:52,319 --> 01:11:53,920
and I will joke, and I will put a proper face.

1054
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,520
I'm when we go on these shows. But fuck, you

1055
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:59,840
have already taken everything from us. Do not ask us

1056
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:02,119
to give more than what we have. We are not

1057
01:12:02,159 --> 01:12:07,960
going to fight or survive on your schedule. Look, she said,

1058
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:12,760
after a moment, I know, Okay, nobody in this room

1059
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,920
is an idiot. The moment I appeared, he was terrified

1060
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:17,840
of me. Once he saw I wasn't wearing a party badge,

1061
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:20,239
he relaxed. When I'm done here, I go back down

1062
01:12:20,239 --> 01:12:22,239
to the production headquarters not have to face my boss,

1063
01:12:22,279 --> 01:12:24,319
who is a member of the party. If I do

1064
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:26,920
or say the wrong thing, my entire family will be

1065
01:12:27,039 --> 01:12:30,119
wiped from the universe. You're going out there to kill

1066
01:12:30,119 --> 01:12:32,199
and face mobs who know people like you are prowling

1067
01:12:32,199 --> 01:12:34,800
the holes trying to find and kill them. The sapient

1068
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:37,720
ones live in constant fear of you. Guys. We are

1069
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:41,560
all parts of the same inexorable machine. All of us

1070
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:46,159
are afraid. Yes, your place in this really sucks. It's

1071
01:12:46,159 --> 01:12:48,479
not fair. You know it. I know it. The cat

1072
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:51,960
knows it. But believe it or not, I am on

1073
01:12:52,079 --> 01:12:55,399
your side. The better you do, the longer you survive,

1074
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,319
the better I do. So when I tell you that

1075
01:12:58,359 --> 01:13:01,560
you should do something, you best listen because I know

1076
01:13:02,119 --> 01:13:07,119
what I'm talking about. This is just like that scene

1077
01:13:07,159 --> 01:13:09,000
in season three ye Gossip Girl when Chuck and Blair

1078
01:13:09,039 --> 01:13:13,199
break up over the Hotel Doughnut said, I turned to

1079
01:13:13,279 --> 01:13:16,640
regard the cat on my shoulder and I burst out laughing.

1080
01:13:17,239 --> 01:13:20,680
I couldn't help it. It wasn't funny. I never watched

1081
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:24,159
that damn show yet I laughed, and I had a

1082
01:13:24,199 --> 01:13:29,840
hard time stopping. No, it's not, Mordecai said a moment later.

1083
01:13:30,319 --> 01:13:34,079
How do you even get that from this? Zev turned

1084
01:13:34,079 --> 01:13:37,680
her fish gaze to my cat, and then Mordecai, I

1085
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:41,359
can't believe it. You too have watched Gossip Girl. Nobody

1086
01:13:41,359 --> 01:13:43,840
on my team has watched anything except that old Cops

1087
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:47,359
and Judge Judy. We've been stuck here for fifteen solars

1088
01:13:47,399 --> 01:13:50,119
with nothing for entertainment but earth based programs, and I've

1089
01:13:50,119 --> 01:13:56,720
had nobody to talk to about them. You guys, I

1090
01:13:56,840 --> 01:14:00,640
love this so much for so many reasons. First of all,

1091
01:14:01,079 --> 01:14:04,600
I love the fact that sometimes Donuts like Charm is

1092
01:14:05,119 --> 01:14:09,039
seemingly sort of accidental. She just manages to connect with

1093
01:14:09,119 --> 01:14:12,439
Zev on this level, purely by mentioning Gossip Girl in

1094
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:16,199
this like offhand way. I also love we are in

1095
01:14:16,239 --> 01:14:20,039
the midst of like a hostile government takeover, and I'm

1096
01:14:20,119 --> 01:14:23,800
here talking about this book to people who paid me

1097
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:28,359
because they wanted to share it so badly, and other

1098
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:30,439
people are here who have read it because they want

1099
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:33,000
to hear me talk about it. This is like this

1100
01:14:33,079 --> 01:14:36,560
kind of thing, detaching from the horror of your current

1101
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:40,279
situation and the world you live in by engaging in

1102
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:46,680
like joint enjoyment of media is like my whole job.

1103
01:14:47,239 --> 01:14:50,359
That's what I do. And so for that to be

1104
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:53,319
what kind of brings them together in this moment. It's

1105
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,600
not that they are all in an equally garbage position.

1106
01:14:57,119 --> 01:14:59,239
It's that they have all watched this show and they

1107
01:14:59,279 --> 01:15:03,680
relay on that level, and this also takes their mind

1108
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:07,439
off of things for a little bit. This is it,

1109
01:15:08,039 --> 01:15:11,439
This is it, This is how it goes. This just

1110
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:14,000
fucking got to me, guys. You know it would. It's

1111
01:15:14,039 --> 01:15:16,119
my job, like I said, so, it's just really gonna

1112
01:15:16,159 --> 01:15:20,600
hit a particular nerve for me. But my lord, and

1113
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:25,159
later on, when Zev says something like have you watched

1114
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:28,960
what is it that, she says, uh, there's something some

1115
01:15:29,079 --> 01:15:31,640
other show that makes don't oh here it is. Tell

1116
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:34,640
me you've watched Riverdale, which is a similar I've watched

1117
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,479
gossip Girl. I have not watched Riverdale. Gossip Girl is

1118
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:39,159
the kind of show that I enjoyed so much at

1119
01:15:39,159 --> 01:15:40,560
the time, and I have a feeling if I were

1120
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:42,079
to try and watch it now, I would be so

1121
01:15:42,159 --> 01:15:43,920
disgusted that I wouldn't be able to get through it

1122
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:48,319
because it's about people who have such extreme wealth that

1123
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:50,439
it was just sort of fun to watch the rich

1124
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:53,000
people at one point in my life, and now that's

1125
01:15:53,039 --> 01:15:57,319
not as much fun anymore. Riverdale is the seems like

1126
01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:01,760
type of like trashy drama, you know, So I feel

1127
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:03,920
like I would kind of enjoy Riverdale in a weird

1128
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:07,840
way because I that's Michael Is in the chat saying

1129
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,479
Riverdale gets batshit crazy. That is what I have heard.

1130
01:16:11,279 --> 01:16:13,920
I've been spoiled on a few small points of Riverdale.

1131
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:17,439
So anyway, just saying if anybody wants to commission that,

1132
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:24,239
I'm open. And Mordecai takes a moment to talk to

1133
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:29,479
Carl about how dangerous that was, and he brings up

1134
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,560
the party and is basically like the closest thing you

1135
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:35,279
would have is like access Japan with a good splash

1136
01:16:35,279 --> 01:16:40,079
of Nazi Germany. When I signed my Indentions Indentureship contract,

1137
01:16:40,079 --> 01:16:43,159
the Bloom represented less than fifteen percent of the votes.

1138
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:46,680
Now they control the whole Kubatine government. They've run it

1139
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:50,239
into the ground. The whole system is bankrupt, which is

1140
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:52,600
part of what is so funny about a lot of

1141
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,640
right wingers is that they whine and cry about taxes,

1142
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,199
but they always wind up fucking bankrupting us, and then

1143
01:16:58,239 --> 01:17:01,119
we have to like, that's why we have to taxes, y'all,

1144
01:17:01,119 --> 01:17:03,479
don't mind Like, ugh, you know what, I'm not doing it.

1145
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:05,640
I'm over time already as I was last time. I

1146
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:09,960
really need to get it together. Listen carefully. We don't

1147
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:12,439
have time to get into details. But Boren is being

1148
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:14,920
forced by their own government to end the game as

1149
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:18,159
quickly as possible. You need to be especially careful not

1150
01:17:18,199 --> 01:17:21,920
to upset them. I don't understand. I thought they started

1151
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:24,960
it early to stave off a bankruptcy seizure action. That's

1152
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:27,640
what Odent implied. Wouldn't they want to keep it running

1153
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:30,800
as long as possible. That's what everyone thought at first.

1154
01:17:31,119 --> 01:17:33,680
They're doing a cash grab with a new patron system.

1155
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,680
But they don't get that money or any money from

1156
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:39,840
the advertising or the tourism funds or Elite Monster sponsorship

1157
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:43,680
or anything else until the season is over. They need

1158
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:47,319
that cash as soon as possible, but they also first

1159
01:17:47,399 --> 01:17:50,760
need to raise enough. Their whole system is balancing on

1160
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:54,239
a wire. They need the game to be entertaining and profitable,

1161
01:17:54,279 --> 01:17:57,359
but they also needed to finish much more quickly than usual.

1162
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:00,920
The committee has already issued a warn putting Boring on

1163
01:18:01,039 --> 01:18:03,760
notice over the bugs that keep occurring, like the issue

1164
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:06,960
with the bathrooms and the overpowered mobs. One too many

1165
01:18:07,039 --> 01:18:11,359
violations and Born could lose everything. There are protections in place,

1166
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:14,880
plus there's pushback within the company, but the Kuwatin government

1167
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:19,840
is working extra hard to get you killed. That's just wonderful.

1168
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:24,079
And this is when they're like, all right, time to

1169
01:18:24,119 --> 01:18:27,279
head out, let's do this. Zev has to leave before them.

1170
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:30,760
And then they opened the door and a waste high

1171
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:35,159
pile of grubs fell into the room. And that's the

1172
01:18:35,359 --> 01:18:41,760
end of the chapter. There's more I want to say,

1173
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:43,199
but I don't have time. Kids, I'm gonna have to

1174
01:18:43,239 --> 01:18:46,319
save it till next time. All right, everybody, Thank you

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all again so much for hanging out with me. Thank

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you to Michael for commissioning this and commissioning the next

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book as well. I'm very excited. I hope you all

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are having fun listening I'm having fun reading, and until

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next time, to the lou motherfuckers that was an unspoiled network.