Speaker 1: What's up everybody? Welcome into another episode of Prophet Picks.
If you are new, we always start this show by
being transparent. Yesterday I didn't play any NBA. I had
a top play in college basketball Houston first half was
a winner, and then couldn't quite get there on the
NFL game first half over. Cowboys left too many points
on the field in that first half. So it wasn't
slightly profitable day for myself. Ravino. It was a nice
start to college basketball. How are you doing today? How's
everything for you?
Speaker 2: Things are good, skit. It was a good college basketball
day here as well. Three and two ran out of
the gate solid places. It wasn't very good in the
NBA though. Over two Yesterday. NBA I had another one
that stung the most was having the Portland team total
over and them falling short without Luca or Austin Reeves
in the lineup last night. Again we texted real briefly
about it. But this NBA injury report, you're even on
the good side of all of that stuff and you
can't get a win, and now you're jokingly texted back Lakers.
So when now we've seen this one before, take all
the stories when the other team wins exactly. Uh, it
defies all logic. And I don't know that one. That
one hurt a little bit. We'll look to get get
it right here tonight on this six game card.
Speaker 1: I mean, my my friend, uh, my friend Dutch, he
had the Lakers plus three and then he saw everybody
got rude out. He was so man, I can see
it all over his face. I'm like, it's all right, bro,
you see all the time when this happens, Lakers still
could win. It's okay, And you know what, you know,
I think it's like, I mean, it makes sense kind of.
I mean, it shouldn't be this way. You should get
massed effort from everybody every day. But we've heard guys
like Draymond say, you know, when you look on the
other side and you don't see the main guys over there,
you know, a lot of that energy you had to
play that game and play that matchup goes out the window.
And then on the flip side, you got guys, you know,
getting an opportunity. Like the point guard that the Lakers
had out there, he had the flu. He was like
he was throwing up at halftime. He was like, I
don't care I got my opportunity, I'm getting out there,
and he made the most of it. So you get
stuff like that, just effort, high effort versus low effort
in those situations. I think that's what we're seeing. But yeah,
outside of that, we got nice six games slate here, Rob,
you know so yeah, Nick s Myth, shout out the
nixt Myth like I say his name, the way he
was bawling yesterday. Anything for you, you know, before we
get to it.
Speaker 2: No, you covered it, buddy. The only thing I'll say.
And it is kind of a subjective theory that we're
throwing out there, But in my case, when the other
side is Portland and you've realized the Lakers stars, right,
you think that would jack Portland up a little bit.
They're not one of those veteran teams that's always in
the playoffs. But it didn't, and it's been what it's
been for three years. Ski. I should actually maybe if
we go back to COVID, I mean when you and
I started doing shows together for Wager Talk, maybe it's
been that long since we've noticed Stars down run through
the window with the other side not an issue.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we're getting some guys maybe rode out
today too, So let's talk about it. Let's see what
we got. Let's refresh that injury report before we get started,
and we will go in rotation order like we always do.
That means, first up, you know, the Bucks playing again
here versus the Raptors open, Raptors minus three. I saw
it go to about four and a half. Joannis got
rolled in I believe or Jannis was. Let me see,
Yannis is listed as probable and it goes down to three.
Obviously no KPJ yet still for them, and then Yaku hurdle.
They could be getting him back for Toronto and versus
guy like Jannis. You know you need some paint protection desperately.
But who's to say ya didn't even plays. I mean
they did play yesterday. We've already seen them one time
this year go from it was either probable to out
or just normal to out. It absolutely can happen, especially
here on the back back. I don't know if you know,
this game was not my favorite, but to see Toronto
minus three, I mean they did just lose to this
team and their minus three again here, Like that's just
standing out to me. It's making me think that their
favorite for a reason, So I don't have a whole
lot on this other than that, if I was betting
on somebody for Milwaukee, I'd probably actually just wait for
the injury report to finish. So either raptors or stay off.
What do you think? You know?
Speaker 2: Yeah, with that, I mean my first thought here, and
I had it yesterday on the show and it was correct.
I mean, when we came on yesterday, Luca was scheduled
to play, and I had mentioned, you know, Luca might
not even play in second of back to backs, and
he wound up not playing, And it's what I immediately
thought of with Giannest And then I saw Giannis listed
as probable now and I thought, well, maybe this is
a new year for Milwaukee. Maybe they're going after games early.
But I would wait on it because the Austin Reeves
info didn't come until much later yesterday, so we don't
know for sure. I know Toronto's gonna play with a
lot of pace. Ski to use a comp game. We
saw it last night Miami even in second of back
to backs pace against Methodical. In that Clippers case, Miami
forced a bunch of turnovers and wound up winning that
game out right, now, Milwaukee's not methodical, but if Gianni's
doesn't play, I don't trust those guys against Toronto's tempo,
so wouldn't want to lay three. My secondary thought is
to go toward total, perhaps even Toronto team total over.
Toronto's gonna score. Toronto's going to push. But where side
is concerned, the Yaka Peertal injury does inhibit their rim defense.
So there's a lot of questions and concerns in this game.
Rather wait and see, but I know that Toronto will
try and wear Milwaukee out with pace since Milwaukee's in
the second to back to back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see. This is definitely one. You gotta wait
because I can just see some fishy stuff and Yan
is still getting rolled out late. Shout out to you
Kapur in the chat. He's been hot, he was out
of all of October, and he's reminding everybody to hit
the light button. So appreciate you out there, RC. All right,
I do have a few players today, Robino. That first game,
I just did not like a couple other players. I'm
willing to talk out and open my wallet too. This
next game Magic in Atlanta. It could be one opened
up minus three for the Magic looks like three and
a half total hasn't really moved Mo Wagner out, Trey
Young out. This Magic team we saw to start the year.
They were playing fast, they weren't playing any defense. Jamal Moseley,
you know, and a couple of postgame interviews ago, you know,
he was just saying, we got to sit down and
guard like he was just talking about defense the entire time.
And we've seen their defense pick up a little bit
and we've seen them pay Slow a little bit as well.
For Atlanta without Trey Young, he would think the pay
Slow's offense likely gets a little worse. My initial thought
here was under Rov, you know, But the more I
thought about it, when I'm watching Atlanta now without Trey,
they getting the rebound and whoever grab it, they're going
And yeah, if they do that tonight versus Orlando, get
out in transition. Orlando struggles, their transition defense has not
been good. South Atlanta pushes them in that regard they
can have success. And Jamal Mosley did emphasize, you know,
the pace that he's talking about is when they get stops,
they want to get out and run immediately. So I
do think you'll get some pace in this game, Well,
we get enough offense to get over how do you
see it?
Speaker 2: You know? Well, I bet the Orlando side. I thought
there's a bit of revenge for the game they played
to start the season. Remember, these are the two teams
that are supposed to contend for the Southeast Division title.
I happen to have a ticket on Orlando to win
that division this year, but or Atlanta came to Orlando's
second game of the season. Atlanta wins that one, one
to eleven, one oh seven. Pretty good defensive job by
the Orlando Magic in that game. Held the Hawks to
only eight three pointers on twenty nine attempts, held them
to one hundred and eleven points, but they didn't score
in that one. I think they returned the favor here tonight.
I like what you said about their defense turning a
corner a little bit, so to speak. Charlotte and Washington,
as far as what their styles are are nothing but
pace and scoring. I mean, Charlotte and Washington don't strike
you as defensive teams, but they strike you as offensive teams.
And those are two that Orlando held down to one
oh seven and ninety four. So to see to see
them play good defense here against the Hawks, and what
would we be surprised. There was an interesting quote that
I was going to get to here from Franz Wagner
of Orlando who said, the way the season started, we
needed to improve on defense as well as well, but
long term offense is where we've got the biggest room
for improvement. So on the floor, they're thinking they're still
not scoring enough, which is kind of interesting. I think
Atlanta you can get into, you know, scoring matches with
them and without Trey, I really don't trust them. However, again,
we started the broadcast or the show here by talking
about teams without stars coming through with victories. Tray's injury
is long term. I don't think Atlanta's gonna benefit from
this long term injury. I did play, however, and like
I say, the premise of the play was a revenge
for Orlando. It's divisional. I don't think they want to
go too to this team any tiebreaker at the end
of the year that would hurt. So I'm on the
Orlando side playing a little better defense and I think
probably just as good on offense. We'll see how Alexander
Walker handles the point guard duties. Now for this team
certainly not Trey Young as far as creating goes it.
Tray's such a great lane penetrator and Ali up guy, etc.
Et cetera. Assist guy. I don't know that Alexander Walker
is the same guy you.
Speaker 1: No. I agree, And I did look at a lot
of props in this one. Guys in the chat looking
at props too, sf Niner says Franz over his point.
Prop U Caver says Dyson Daniels. You know, I looked
at Dyson. Dyson has been good. He the two games
he's played with out Trede scored eighteen points in both
of them, and last year he did a lot more scoring.
I think he went over this thirteen and a half
every game last year without Trey. But last year they
also didn't have Alexander Walker, right, and he's been filling
it up too. Both of them have really been hitting
their prop. It's hard for me to choose. And if
I'm liking, you know, everybody to score, seems like I
would like an over in the game. But again, you're
liking these props because it's a lot of minutes to
go around when Trey Young is not out there. In
that regard, to they need Jalen Johnson more. JB likes
Jalen Johnson points and rebounds, but I'm going rebounds and assists.
I can see both. But to what else? Saying earlier
they grabbed the rebound and they go and he's grabbing
a lot of rebounds for his team. He had thirteen,
I think the past two games. So I see him
grabbing them, getting out in transition with the magic are
week and hopefully kicking it up to some of these guys.
Without Trey, you get that minute boost. I think this
season it went up from about thirty two minutes to
thirty seven something like that. And then you look at
the two games so far without Trey his rebounds assists line.
In fourteen and a half, he had twenty one versus Pacers,
he had eighteen versus Cavs. You can go back last
year without Trey two more games, twenty two versus Celtics,
nineteen versus Grizzlies. They're gonna have to rely on Jalen
Johnson a lot in this game, and so I bet
his rebounds and assists fourteen and a half. Let's see, uh,
anything else we have here before we keep going. Gilbert
doesn't think jj hits a three star show, reminding everybody
at the light button appreciate that. All right, let's keep
going here. Next game of you know, Hornets and Pelicans,
and it opened minus one and a half. Wow, we
must have some injury news. We now see minus four
and a half. And did we get anything here? We
must have got something. LaMelo literally right now just got
rolled out. So I figured he would get rolled out.
He didn't play last game, that same ankle that he
always hurts, lingering injury again. Now Zion is still a question.
But we don't know if Zion is gonna play. But
if he does, I feel like this is a slam dunk.
I already played the Pelicans just to win at minus
one forty. Obviously I'm seeing five and a half. Now
it's gonna go up. You might want to open your
wallet and get in right now before all of these
lines go up. But the Pelicans have not won a
game yet this season. But competition have been tough, you know,
like when I look at who both of these teams
have played, actually I got it right here, schedules. So
when I look at who both of these teams have played,
let's look at the Hornets. Hornets had the Jazz, the Timberls,
the Magic, the Wizards, the Sixers, the Nets, the Heat.
They ain't been playing nobody, you know, and they still
haven't been looking great. You look at your three and
four playing nobody's You look at the Pelicans. They have
played the thunder Clippers, the Nuggets, Celtics, Spurs, Grizzlies. I mean,
it seems like a hell of a lot more competition
to me, and the game versus Celtics. They didn't even
have Zion, So it's a tough schedule out the game
for the Pelicans team with some new pieces dealing with
some injuries. Now though, you're at home seeing this Hornets
team without LaMelo out there. The Hornets are three and
twenty three without LaMelo straight up last season, Raveno. They
don't have Brandon Miller. I mean that playmaking is gonna
be ass Colin Sexton, I like him, but you know,
Miles Bridges, he could score, but it's not gonna be
enough here. I like the Pelicans. I took the Pelicans,
and if Zion gets rolled out, I might also double
up on Treg Murphy pra What do you think about
this one?
Speaker 2: Be no yeah, I can't argue at all. I mean,
without LaMelo, it's kind of a different team in Charlotte.
It's interesting that the last three games they're scoring output.
Two of the last three games, excuse me, their scoring
output has gone down considerably. I kind of like the
New Orleans team total to go over in this game.
Orlando's been just a miserable defensive team, as has the Pelicans,
by the way. I mean between these two teams, there's
only two games in regulation where they've allowed less than
one twenty. So it's tough to think that Charlotte's in
any way, shape or form, is gonna start New Orleans
from scoring. However, Uh, sometimes those numbers get a little
bit big here, and for the Pelicans, it's the first
home after a three game road trip, something we look
at a little bit and probably a minor detail here
because the injuries on the other side override maybe the
first home game back. But I think it's some capacity.
If I was gonna play, I would look towards the
Pelicans and mainly towards their team total. I just think
this is a chance for them. You know, when you
mentioned they were zero and six, I'll just jump on
that a little bit. I think that this is a
step down in class for them, where they can absolutely
put points on the board. The number was one nineteen
and a half. I think they get to one twenty.
So if I'm gonna play, it's gonna be Pelicans team
total over and I'll you know, we'll go from there.
Speaker 1: All right. I like it. I like it, and I'm
on them Pellies today, I got in early. I knew
Labelo wasn't gonna play well. Seem Zion still plays. He's
still questionable, so we shall the next game. Chicago and
Philly opened up minus one for the Bulls. Still there,
total open two thirty nine looks like two forty. As
far as the injuries, Barlow George both out for Chicago,
I thought the summer was out. Did they upgrade him
the questionable? I could have worn. I saw him out,
but yeah, I don't know. I swear they must have
upgraded him to questionable. Today he's questionable. Zach Collins is
out and Kobe White. Kobe White also out, so that
kind of messes up my headycap a little bit. I mean,
I took Josh Giddy over his rebounds and assists, really,
because you know, we know Kobe White and no Dissumo.
It's a lot of minutes to go around, and he's
the engine for this team anyway, so I would like
it if does not play. I'm pretty sure he was
listed as out and now he's questionable, so pretty annoying.
But Gudea's had eighteen plus rebounds and assist the last
four games anyway, a few of those games as soon
we did play, and you never know, he could just
only play limited minutes tonight, and Getty still has to
go out there and carry the big log so versus
Sixers soft defense on the back to bab that was
the direction that I've chosen this one. How do you
see seventy six Ers and Bulls, Well.
Speaker 2: If you're looking at player props, I mean the three
names that just continue to perform for the Sixers no
matter what the circumstances are, Maxi, Edgecomb and Ubre. Those
three guys have just dominated offensively so far this season
for this team. Whether it's in a game where embiid
plays or whether it's a game where mbat six really
doesn't matter. I'm more interested in the Chicago Psyche though,
Ski you know they were undefeated, went to New York
to play the Knicks. In that rematch, the Knicks were
waiting for him. They had lost in Chicago, and the
Knicks gave them their first loss. And I wonder how
Chicago handles the first loss. Here. Things have been going
really well, the Sixers have been Here's the problem with
the Sixers. Every single game they're involved in, or basically
every single game they're involved in, they have to come
from behind. They get behind in every game these fourth quarter.
At some point it's not going to happen. But right
now it's a team that gives you the full forty eight.
No double digit lead in the fourth quarter is too
much for them to stop fighting for it. And they've
come back in a number of situations. So the number
here of Chicago minus one at home was interesting to me,
just seems way off base. I don't know why we're
giving Philadelphia so much credit on the road, especially a
team like I say, that has been behind in most
all of their games in the fourth quarter. So slight
lean towards the Bulls to regroup. Like I say, I'm
somewhat concerned. And maybe that's just fabricated in my head
about them losing a game and seeing if they can
bounce back. But I think they should be able to
here tonight. Remember Billy Donovan, and we've repeated it three
or four times, but he has placed an emphasis on
some physicality and defense, and Philadelphia has done neither of those.
So I think at home only laying one point, Bulls
are probably the right side. I may get to the
window with this one. Not positive yet, all.
Speaker 1: Right, fair enough, let's keep going down the list. McCain active.
You can have a reminder us of that, so that
would change the rotation up a little bit for the
six Ers team. We'll see what he looks out, what
he looks like in his debut. Next game, we are
going to go in the lat oh. I think I'll
skip one, so we will skip this one and out
out a banner, we'll go Thunder and Clippers. Right now
open minus five for okay, See looks like seven total
came down from two twenty two and a half to
two twenty one and a half. And as far as
injuries are concerned, you do have Jimmy Butler now questionable,
Horford is out, Melting's out two days out for UH Phoenix,
No Dylan Brooks, Jalen Green, Liver's questionable, done is probable,
stet up. I'm asked that up, you know which I'll read.
I was reading the game that I got to make
the banner for. So okay, seeing Clippers my bad Dort questionable,
AJ Mitchell questionable? Is this that's Jalen Williams questionable topic?
Kenrick Williams and Jada are all out for the Clippers.
Bill is questionable, Kawhi is questionable, Miller and Sanders are doubtful.
So I'm going to pass this one to you real quick,
you know, while I while I fix my mistakes, all.
Speaker 2: Right, So logically again, perfect logic tells you the thunder
are probably a play here, and the number has been
bet up from five all the way to seven some
seven and a half. Clippers, on a back to back
played the fastest paced team in the NBA last night.
They're going to face a team that will utilize pace
in this game, and the Clippers just have not handled
quick teams at all so far this season. Oklahoma City
still undefeated despite the injuries that they've been through, come
to play every single night. I think the low Dort
illness is a reason why I'm not there yet. And
you need all the defense you can get here. The
Clippers actually have Beal and Kawhi listed for potential rest.
If that happens, maybe it benefits the Clippers scheme. Maybe
you take a couple of older guys out of the lineup.
I'm not so sure, but I don't think there's much
in the way of a defense for the Clippers other
than getting seven to seven and a half at home.
Is probably too much for me to lay. But again,
all logic would tell you that the way this game
is going to be played, Oklahoma City should win. There
should be a spurt at some time where they create
margins separation. They're known for it, and I think they
take these games pretty seriously. Still in watching now, they
haven't covered more than five hundred. They're not a better
than five hundred ATS team, but the last two have
been pretty sizeable wins for OKC. Could be rounding it
to for them a little bit. I would just wait
on lou Dort. To me, that's a real important injury
there because he's so key to that defense.
Speaker 1: Good points there. This is a game that I'm not
going to get too involved with, so we'll move on
over to the next one, and that is and by
the way, S four nineer said, what happened in tennis
brought out money on it. Now, Ukapper's talking about those
old guys with the walkers with the tennis balls on
the bottom. He said, put them on the hell no list,
that's what you got, says all right, they don't know. Look,
I'm not talking about tennis. Ski notes one. All right,
last game, man, I'm dying. I can't wait till I
feel better. Phoenix and Golden State open to minus ten
for Golden State looks like nine and a half or
ten depending where you shot. Total open two thirty one
and a half looks like two thirty two and a
half for the word. I mean, I told you guys
already Jimmy's questionable, Horrorford out melting out too, hayout for
the Sun's done, probable, Livers questionable, Dylan Brooks, Jayalen Green
both out.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just keep it simple here. You can't get
the number I got anymore because props change when guys
like Jimmy Butler become questionable. But I did take kaminga
over five and a half rebounds. Really, I mean he
probably didn't get even more with Jimmy out two, he's
probably gonna do a lot more of everything. If you
wanted to take assist PRA with every you know, I'm
not mad at that either. But without Horford was the
main looking this one for me, just looking at the
games without Horford specifically, get back here my bad rebounds.
So he had eight rebounds and he had ten rebounds.
Just looking at the opportunities, like seventeen rebound chances, thirteen
rebound chances. So in my mind that's what that's thirty Like,
you're asking him to get less than fifty percent of
his rebound chances. Like, I think that's absolutely doable, especially
when you're missing a big so kaminga over it's six
and a half. Now, I still think that's gonna hit.
But if you want to do PRA, like I said,
I'm not mad at that. As far as the game,
you know what you know, if Jimmy Butler misses his game, Yes,
you're gonna miss some free those, You're gonna miss some
points a little bit. You're also gonna miss some defense,
and your pace will increase. These Warriors like to play
up tempo, that like to move the ball. Jimmy's the
one guy who likes to play a little bit slower.
So if he's out and that total comes down, I
could be interested in it. Over what do you think
about that?
Speaker 2: You know, well, I think a lot of that because
I got there with this total. Over, I just a
couple of things here. Ski Golden State's last two games,
both on the road, their offense didn't really perform well.
That Indiana game still is kind of a head scratch.
You're only scoring one O nine against Indiana, and even
prior to that a couple of games offense hadn't been there.
I think it bounces back here tonight against a Phoenix defense.
It hasn't been good. Everything that they preached. You know,
we got Dylan Brooks. We're gonna you know, he's kind
of an enforcer. We're gonna be tougher physically. Blah blah
blah blah blah blah. They're getting caught in these high
scoring games. The Phoenix Suns are and I feel like
Golden State back home looking to get their offense right.
If Jimmy doesn't play, You're probably correct, it probably goes
a little bit quicker, But the small lineup anyway is
going to go quicker. And force Phoenix into pace with them.
If Golden State gets out in front, Phoenix has to
play catch up. It really goes fast, I think at
that point. So for me again, style of play, matchups,
make fights, et cetera, et cetera. I just thought this
one was going to be played at a higher tempo.
And I'm always looking for, you know, these really good
offensive teams that haven't shown well the last couple of games,
looking for a bounce back. This is the perfect team
to bounce back against in Phoenix technical foul battle between
Tranmond and Brooks, and we had a prop on.
Speaker 1: That maybe he'll get one from the bench.
Speaker 2: Still, I mean, it's been it's been done before. But
for me, obviously, like I said earlier, I've already played
this game over so if it comes down, I've probably
got the wrong side of the line if it comes
down due to Jimmy's absence, But I don't know that
it would affect my bet here at two thirty two and.
Speaker 1: A half, So two thirty two and a half over right, Yeah,
all right, I like it. I might. I might be
there with you. If I see Jimmy out, I'm gonna
have to push that button. Good stuff. You know, that
is the NBA car. We didn't have too much today,
so we will go ahead and before we move it
to best bets, we'll put this up. Remind everybody it
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the promotions are what they are for today, Ski
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big hit with folks out there. I'll go back earlier.
I like to revenge angle with or and here. I
think that they expected to win that first home game.
They didn't. They get an opportunity without Trey Young. I'm
hoping this is not one of those instances where the
star doesn't play and you know, Atlanta at home comes through.
But I just think Orlando has got their focus back
a little bit on the defensive end. If it gets
into a scoring battle, they've been able to score here.
We'll see, But I just think that three and a
half was a pretty good number in this spot. So
it's more of a situational play than anything else, a
little bit of fundamental because Trey is better playmaker than
anybody else on that Atlanta roster. So give me Orlando
minus three and a half has the best bet for
the show.
Speaker 1: All right, good stuff from Robno for myself, you know
a few of my lines have already moved, and I
like to give you guys what I can take. Are
you know the same thing that I've taken? So I
will go with Jalen Johnson over fourteen and a half
rebounds plus assis. Like I said earlier, he's just he's
boreding like crazy at thirty team the past two games.
They need him out there to playmate to score. Without
Trey Young, he's getting extra minutes and without trailing out there,
whoever gets that rebound is pushing, and like I said,
magics transition defense is poor. I can see him finding
some people out in transition racking him some assists. So
Jalen Johnson over fourteen and a half rebounds plus assists.
You know, appreciate you taking the time to catch these
games with me upside my process. I'm sure you help
everybody else out as well. People in the chat, we
appreciate you. Good capers, good people, and we all just
help each other win. So man, it's time for me
to go drink some tea and orange juice and get
myself together and that will catch you guys again tomorrow