Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to another episode of Hard Shrew's podcast.
Speaker 1: This is your host Ashton Forbes, and today I have
Speaker 1: a very special guest, Doctor You from NASA. Doctor U
Speaker 1: has a unification theory called you On Theory, which believes
Speaker 1: that at the smallest level, everything is a magnetic particle,
Speaker 1: and that this theory can explain dark energy, dark matter,
Speaker 1: and all the fundamental forces. Welcome right now with me
Speaker 1: on the on the show is doctor You. Thank you,
Speaker 1: doctor you for being here. How are you doing today?
Speaker 2: Thank you Ashton for having me. I'm doing great. I'm
Speaker 2: so excited. I have a conversation with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So right off the bat, did I get you
Speaker 1: on theory correct? How do you explain you on theory
Speaker 1: to people?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, it is a unified physical theory. Try to
Speaker 2: explain all the phenomenal phenomenal physical phenomenons and the misteres
Speaker 2: in physics with a wooden particle, wind force, Winfield principle
Speaker 2: and also one universe.
Speaker 1: Well, let's start right off the bat with light. Now.
Speaker 1: I've watched some of your previous podcasts and I love
Speaker 1: your explanation of what light is and how we should
Speaker 1: think about light. So right off the bat. Tell me
Speaker 1: why is light not a particle? Why is light a wave?
Speaker 1: Or is light a wave? Is light actually a particle
Speaker 1: and a wave at the same time.
Speaker 2: This is the mystery of the light, you know, because
Speaker 2: we're accessing to two different theory. When you say that
Speaker 2: light is a wave, well another one's light is a particle. Eventually,
Speaker 2: when it's a certain one, say hey, live, is it
Speaker 2: called wave a co wave and the particle? You know,
Speaker 2: my quek answer is after I studied that, that's a
Speaker 2: my Creek answer. Light that is one hundred percent of wave.
Speaker 2: It's not a particle. But if you want me to
Speaker 2: subtimate it's more. Experts say light has a light, a source,
Speaker 2: and the light propagation. So if we say lie the source,
Speaker 2: it is a cause of the biparticle is like a
Speaker 2: draw a pabble in the pond right create the motion.
Speaker 2: So the lie the source is a particle. However, whence
Speaker 2: the motion started the motion propagates is a through a
Speaker 2: medium through a medium, so then that becomes a wave
Speaker 2: up wave of phenomena for light propagates. I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the example that you gave, I think in the
Speaker 1: podcast I was watching, which I really liked just to
Speaker 1: visualize was that you said, you know, if you imagine
Speaker 1: a light in the middle of a room and we're
Speaker 1: all looking at that light, in order for light to
Speaker 1: be a particle, it would mean that the whole room
Speaker 1: would have to be completely filled with particles, and that
Speaker 1: theoretically light could be infinitely small, so it would have
Speaker 1: to be an infinite number of particles, which wouldn't make
Speaker 1: sense at all. Is that the strongest that you think
Speaker 1: for why light would have to be a wave? And
Speaker 1: if so, then how do you explain the photoelectric effect
Speaker 1: and this idea of this packet of photons?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Uh, the photo electric effect? That the short answer is,
Speaker 2: I do not believe current explanation of photo electric electrical
Speaker 2: effect is correct. So I'm gonna divide it by two things.
Speaker 2: Number one, photo electro assuming electricity photo electric u E.
Speaker 2: Fact that assuming electricly is the motion of an electron.
Speaker 2: So so that's why they hey, we come out of
Speaker 2: And also as assumption is light is a pack of
Speaker 2: h wave particle a pack of particle, right, so now
Speaker 2: becomes a particle and a particle interaction. So that's the
Speaker 2: current understanding. But I started I found no, it's totally different.
Speaker 2: The first thing is electricity is now the flow of
Speaker 2: the particles. Whenever we generate the photo electric in fact,
Speaker 2: is when your life coming in, we have an electricity
Speaker 2: come out. Right, So we're assuming based on the connection theory,
Speaker 2: we're assuming you create the motion of electron and the
Speaker 2: electric traveling through the through the the substrate. So that's
Speaker 2: our created electricity. I found actually electricity does not created
Speaker 2: by any particle. Called the translated motion is actually it's
Speaker 2: a vibration motion. It's a way of propagate. So so
Speaker 2: on the solar panel, let's say I'm the solar panel,
Speaker 2: life coming in. All the particles on solar panel sub
Speaker 2: subject to light the excitation, right, they only created oscillation
Speaker 2: or called the vibration oscillation disturbance in local area. However,
Speaker 2: the atoms on the surfa of this of the solar panel,
Speaker 2: they are elastic connected. So that's why you create a medium.
Speaker 2: Vibrating medium propagates outside. So the so that the.
Speaker 1: Light, which is the photon that's hitting is this electromagnetic
Speaker 1: wave potentially just a magnetic wave that's hitting this medium
Speaker 1: of particles that's there, and then that's what's producing what
Speaker 1: we're seeing in the photoelectric effect as this this disturbance
Speaker 1: in the medium.
Speaker 2: Yes, so now you just answered my second second question.
Speaker 2: So we are assuming lighter. Is the wave means that
Speaker 2: light does not come out of the whole things some impact.
Speaker 2: It's not like an impact. It is a wave will
Speaker 2: create the oscillation of an electromagnetic field. When you're shining
Speaker 2: the light. What happens is on the surface of that
Speaker 2: you create oscillating oscolating a magnetic field. And then that's
Speaker 2: the number one thing. So light that is not the particle.
Speaker 2: We think about this a wave. Of course, the wave
Speaker 2: we have a wavefront, right, we have a wavefront, wave
Speaker 2: vibration and the vibration wave you have a wavefront go
Speaker 2: through it create the oscillation of a magnetic wave. However,
Speaker 2: what the effect when's a magnetic wave goes through let's
Speaker 2: say solar panel equivalent to photo elastic material, right, solar panel.
Speaker 2: So what happens when you will have oscillation in electromagnetic
Speaker 2: wave you create all the particles on the surface of
Speaker 2: the material solar panel, our magnetic particle. So is what
Speaker 2: happens in the word oscillating, where is the wave frequency oscillating?
Speaker 2: Where's a wave? So that means light is induced light
Speaker 2: the wave induced the oscillation of the particle on the
Speaker 2: surface of solar panel. And then this this is this
Speaker 2: oscillation in local area create what is a create a
Speaker 2: wave motion along the surface out of that solar panel.
Speaker 2: So that's the probagates. So if you keep going, yeah,
Speaker 2: if you pay someth this one you too, Now to
Speaker 2: say how much a pack of energy to knock electron
Speaker 2: out in order to make the emotion? Right, we don't
Speaker 2: needed to not the knock the electron out because the
Speaker 2: electricity does not require translatele motion, just alsolving. That's it.
Speaker 1: So why because then Einstein would say, right that the
Speaker 1: size of the are we can interact by changing I
Speaker 1: think the frequency, Right, we change the size of the spoon.
Speaker 1: Is the analogy that they use in terms of like
Speaker 1: what we're how we're interacting. So what would be your
Speaker 1: explanation there for like that we can change the size
Speaker 1: of the spoon by changing the frequency. How does that
Speaker 1: we're like changing the excitation by doing that, like we're
Speaker 1: making the excitation more impactful or go ahead.
Speaker 2: That's where resonance. You need a he that the resonance
Speaker 2: of frequency, right, you just frequency? Now that every every
Speaker 2: frequency is the resident of frequency. Only in the resid
Speaker 2: the frequent you use, the smallest energy can propagate. You
Speaker 2: like the word resonance? Do I love? The right?
Speaker 1: I mean? And I can already tell, like you know,
Speaker 1: this is pre recorded, but I already know the people
Speaker 1: in the chat are all yelling tesla, tesla, tesla right
Speaker 1: now and things like that, because yes, resonance I think
Speaker 1: is something that I love your opinion on this, but
Speaker 1: it seems like it's discounted in physics. And yet like
Speaker 1: I use it every day when I turn my radio on,
Speaker 1: you know, and tune to the right station, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden the music.
Speaker 2: That's a problem with the theoretical physicist. They are starting point.
Speaker 2: They cannot think without the formula. Somebody gave them a
Speaker 2: formula in front of them. That's the problem. They cannot
Speaker 2: you know. So that's why if you do not have
Speaker 2: a day working in real job, you're dealing with true universe. Right,
Speaker 2: How can you read truly understand how electricity works and
Speaker 2: how Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, absolutely, the resonance thing. Now, it's also making me
Speaker 1: think of you. You know, you were debating or talking
Speaker 1: with Terrence Howard. You're a great discussion with Terrence Howard,
Speaker 1: and it makes me think of Walter Russell and that
Speaker 1: periodic table with the resonance on it. Do you think
Speaker 1: there's some merit to that viewpoint of looking at atoms
Speaker 1: like in terms of resonance like that? Then if everything
Speaker 1: is a wave, oh.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know, resonance is you know, every every
Speaker 2: structure you know has its own natural resonance, right, no
Speaker 2: problem with that one, right. And then every multiple of
Speaker 2: frequency we call it icon valuable. You know, you know,
Speaker 2: we have an icon valuable and in multiple interns and
Speaker 2: multiplication of the same value, the fundamental frequency any if
Speaker 2: your times any interger value, there's still count as is
Speaker 2: it still called the natural frequency. But just now the
Speaker 2: fundamental natural frequency, it's a still natural frequency. So so
Speaker 2: that means that Terrence said, hey, I have this one
Speaker 2: oscollation added natural frequency. Right, if I tumbles or triples it, right,
Speaker 2: it is still counted as a same family of eigenvalue family.
Speaker 2: Give you a different vibration mode, different mode than we
Speaker 2: call the aigenvector. Right, it's the same family. I hope
Speaker 2: that makes it sense, makes sense to me. So it's
Speaker 2: not a violator anything, but but that's not everything. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think you put it beautifully because I'm I've looked
Speaker 1: at that period table and it makes conceptual sense, like
Speaker 1: the way you described it, if everything is a wave,
Speaker 1: but I just don't know enough to look at it
Speaker 1: to tell, like, Okay, is silicon the fourth octave.
Speaker 2: Of yeah, he said, another octave another other of the
Speaker 2: Is it still it's still a natural frequency? It's still
Speaker 2: it's still a natural frequency. That means that you you
Speaker 2: can still use the same resonance of frequency to excite them.
Speaker 1: However, a coherent matter wave beam, yes, yes, yes, And
Speaker 1: so that would be using that concept, right, which would
Speaker 1: be like if you go to the atomic level and
Speaker 1: say that, okay, rubidium has this certain wavelength and you
Speaker 1: can theoretically, like I think they use these cavities to
Speaker 1: like vibrate these atoms.
Speaker 2: To the point where they exciting them.
Speaker 1: Become coherent and because osons. Yeah, and he takes on
Speaker 1: that because that seems like like I watched the patent
Speaker 1: holder talk about it a couple of weeks ago, and
Speaker 1: he said that it could be a million times more
Speaker 1: powerful than a laser, and I.
Speaker 2: Just thought, that's that's what the principle of a resonance
Speaker 2: they do give you theoretically as the infinite amplitude. So
Speaker 2: he's hey, millions of times, it's a less than infinite right,
Speaker 2: So so basically everything happens. It's a natural vibration frequency.
Speaker 2: How do we know it's a natural free uh natural
Speaker 2: uh vibran So wait, basically you just use a hammer
Speaker 2: to knock it. If it doesn't ring, keep you know,
Speaker 2: initially it has some noise, you know, transition period. After
Speaker 2: a while, you know we're oscillating constantly by itself. Fall.
Speaker 2: That's actually it's a natural frequency. So now if you
Speaker 2: have excitation, hit it exactly the free vibration frequency. That's
Speaker 2: a naturally at that time, you know what happens afrequency,
Speaker 2: Keep keep on vibrating, even though you import a very
Speaker 2: very small I thought that they we'll have a like
Speaker 2: an army marching over bridge, right, armed army marching over
Speaker 2: bridge if they marching in the in unison at a
Speaker 2: certain frequency, it's another that it's about. It's never about
Speaker 2: how many people there. It's just if you use the
Speaker 2: same frequency and right a hit that the residents of
Speaker 2: freak and see that's a rare time is coming in
Speaker 2: as a timic even though magnitude there very small, but
Speaker 2: the time is coming in accumulated and you can increage, increase.
Speaker 1: You can't break it down one parametric resonance or parametric
Speaker 1: oscillations of electrical circuits. Yeah, and that's also I think
Speaker 1: what Salvator pais So I've spoken to him. He's a
Speaker 1: US Navy engineer. He so he talks about that a lot,
Speaker 1: about tenderizing, like when he talks about manipulating space time.
Speaker 1: He talks about it like that with resonance. Yes, and
Speaker 1: you can use also the analogy of like the opera
Speaker 1: singer hitting the note for the work.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, showers wine glass, right, yes, if you hear that,
Speaker 3: the if you hear.
Speaker 2: That, the natural frequency of of of the glass, and
Speaker 2: of course you have to last a longer time, right,
Speaker 2: you cannot just hit the windows. Then you jump over
Speaker 2: and then you keep at that note. After a few seconds,
Speaker 2: I say, you were to see stratten. So that's that's
Speaker 2: the power of frequency. Just like you mentioned someone said
Speaker 2: that you know, could have been a million times higher. Theoretically,
Speaker 2: resonants of frequency can't go to amplitude, that can go
Speaker 2: to ufility. You know that one, right, Yeah, keep.
Speaker 1: That in mind because we're going to come back to
Speaker 1: that and when we talk about some of the other
Speaker 1: later topics. Here one last topic on light, which is
Speaker 1: how do you answer the double slit experiment? Like why
Speaker 1: does the wave function break down? And just to clarify
Speaker 1: for people out there who don't know the double slit experiment,
Speaker 1: we're shooting photons through two slits. We would expect there
Speaker 1: to be like two slits on the detectors on the
Speaker 1: backside that matches our two slits. But when we look
Speaker 1: instead we get this wave pattern and so we say, okay, well,
Speaker 1: how is that possible? Which slit did the photon go through?
Speaker 1: So we set up a detector and we say, okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna look and see which which when it went through.
Speaker 1: And then when that happens, the wave function goes away
Speaker 1: and instead we just get our two slits. This is
Speaker 1: the number one mystery in all of physics is that
Speaker 1: whoever can solve this probably figures out all physics. So
Speaker 1: do you go ahead and solve it for us?
Speaker 2: Okay, so you give me the easiest questions about the
Speaker 2: double slated right now? Okay, so you shooting uh photons?
Speaker 2: We if you uh you know, yeah, if you are
Speaker 2: audience watching in your previous video, it will be knows.
Speaker 2: So my theory about the photon is actually now the
Speaker 2: attack of a particle. I mean it's a Fullton's actually
Speaker 2: just the uh a wave propagation. So at a different
Speaker 2: location you see a pack that's a different uh, different
Speaker 2: particles of the medium particles library at that time. So
Speaker 2: it's another like a wind particle go through the photoon. Okay,
Speaker 2: so this is the one thing. So when you go
Speaker 2: through the go through this uh, go through this double slit.
Speaker 2: If you're shooting, when you know what happens, you're shooting
Speaker 2: wind photons we so called the window. Actually you just
Speaker 2: created win excitation when you created windows. The photon transmitted
Speaker 2: or propagated is through the medium. So you see the
Speaker 2: photon just like somebody's swimming over there, right, it's actually
Speaker 2: the wave of motion goes through it. So when the
Speaker 2: wave will reach to the two slid and so basically
Speaker 2: the shooting photon is the equivalent to create the oscillation
Speaker 2: of the wave. So now the wave that's the medium wave, right,
Speaker 2: medium wave goes through the slit in the were Now
Speaker 2: that goes through a single one the wave work goes
Speaker 2: through to outslids simultaneously. So now you have a have
Speaker 2: some a wave motion in phase right in face and
Speaker 2: everything's uh in qubein angle everything. So now you create
Speaker 2: the double slid. There's a coherent that wave.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so if everything, so I get the part where
Speaker 1: the wave part but I guess I just still understand
Speaker 1: the part where it breaks down and why it breaks down.
Speaker 2: The breakdown the breaks down when you're shooting electrons mhm,
Speaker 2: electrons particles right, They said that, hey, we know electrons
Speaker 2: particles right. If this is if a theoretical physicist anything, right,
Speaker 2: it has to have a particles, right, So okay, so
Speaker 2: electrons particle. They said that if we're shooting electron one
Speaker 2: at a time, and we're always around one at a time,
Speaker 2: go through this one or go that one. We know
Speaker 2: we can count. And they find that you're shooting one
Speaker 2: at a time and still find the screen shooting the
Speaker 2: slight interference pattern. That's a where that's where I believe
Speaker 2: people's question come up. So how can you shooting electron
Speaker 2: and we know we monitor the electron, we monitor electron
Speaker 2: go through one seat one slip or go through the
Speaker 2: other slid. Right, we monitor one at a time and
Speaker 2: still shoot that one. You know, the key lies in
Speaker 2: I know one of your favorite. The thing is we
Speaker 2: got either back? Is that right? You said either? You said,
Speaker 2: you know, we know the space. In order for light
Speaker 2: proba gates, we need a carrier that's a wave. So
Speaker 2: so this wave is made by what electromagnetic matters. So
Speaker 2: that's why electromagnetic wave. So now you think about the electron.
Speaker 2: What is the electron in my if you understand the yeah,
Speaker 2: I know you understand. My electron is just this little
Speaker 2: magnetic particles. You think about it, a moving magnetic particles
Speaker 2: inside the magnetic medium. What happens to the medium, the
Speaker 2: medium will create a wave. So now when you go
Speaker 2: through the two slits, your electron goes through it, but
Speaker 2: the wave, the carrier wave, also goes through them. The
Speaker 2: wave started started the ways of the interference pattern. And
Speaker 2: you know how small electron is, right? You know is
Speaker 2: you know is elements supposed to be elementary just tiny.
Speaker 2: So you were carried by the wave. So eventually and
Speaker 2: the wave is still in the various right, just so
Speaker 2: I can lie the wave. So now your electron very
Speaker 2: small being carried by that wave. So that's why I
Speaker 2: end up shooting the same wave pattern. I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't know. If you film fields, you know, remember
Speaker 2: when thing is electron is a magnet, which means electron.
Speaker 2: It's a self carrying magnet. The field right carry the
Speaker 2: more So so this is a magnet, the field, the
Speaker 2: interact the ways, the medium, the electro mag the medium field.
Speaker 2: What happens migration wave.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're saying that it's actually I think I
Speaker 1: get it. Is that so the electron is a little uh,
Speaker 1: assuming the electron is a particle and it's also a magnet,
Speaker 1: and so we have this medium, there must be some medium,
Speaker 1: which we're gonna that's the next topic I want to
Speaker 1: talk about. Then there would be a wave disturbance from
Speaker 1: the electron moving through the medium.
Speaker 2: So yeah, from the electronity magnetic field.
Speaker 1: So then you could have a situation where the electron
Speaker 1: can create a particle type effect and also one where
Speaker 1: it can also a wave type effect at the same time.
Speaker 1: And I have thought the reason why I like this
Speaker 1: is I think the answer must be that there is
Speaker 1: this extra dimension, this extra medium of kind of energy
Speaker 1: or what have you out there, and physics understands that
Speaker 1: to be real. So that's why I like that that answer.
Speaker 1: And so then my next question is, well, where is
Speaker 1: energy coming from? Where is electricity coming from? In your view,
Speaker 1: If you're telling me that we are in this medium
Speaker 1: of particles of energy all around us and that light
Speaker 1: is an excitation of that, so then wouldn't that mean
Speaker 1: that the electricity and energy is locally coming from wherever
Speaker 1: that excitation is curring. Or go ahead and explain to
Speaker 1: me what your what your concept of electricity is.
Speaker 2: Oh, I do believe if you know the energy level
Speaker 2: close to you know, because the light that is light,
Speaker 2: that is electromagnetic oscillation right wave propagation, and because we
Speaker 2: have a light transmitted that's through there's a medium wave
Speaker 2: electro matic So you know, if we can't see the light,
Speaker 2: we know the whole medium is in the background is vibrating.
Speaker 2: It's carry we do just like a fish. Fish do
Speaker 2: not a sea water, right, the water vibrating. However, we
Speaker 2: do see you know, yeah, we see we can't see fishy,
Speaker 2: but the fish it does not sea water. This is
Speaker 2: the same thing when we see light, just like we
Speaker 2: saw fish. But we know the fishure has to go
Speaker 2: through the medium. Right, So that's why that means the
Speaker 2: medium it comes under vibrating. The reason is if you
Speaker 2: can't carry light, light is vibrating of course the medium.
Speaker 2: So what is it? Yeah? Uh, what is a cosmic
Speaker 2: microwave background? You know? Yeah? Of course the medium. You
Speaker 2: have a light, you have a thermonuclear explosions on the stars.
Speaker 2: These are created huge explosions of huge waves, huge the disturbance.
Speaker 2: Of course, everything is vibrating. You were energy, were any
Speaker 2: were your sea light?
Speaker 1: So where's that energy coming from? Then? So I mean
Speaker 1: you're saying that, so are you talking about zero point energy?
Speaker 1: I mean to me, it sounds like you're saying there's
Speaker 1: an ether like and this.
Speaker 2: Is what tesla is. Yes, you think with light, won't
Speaker 2: you won't be able to see light?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Because everything requires all waves require medium, right, I
Speaker 1: mean it seems pretty obvious to me. Why do you
Speaker 1: think physicists have discounted that? I mean, what is the
Speaker 1: counter argument to that? Space is not empty? Really, that's
Speaker 1: the end of the day.
Speaker 2: You're saying, probably, right, Probably it is the same as
Speaker 2: scientific discussion and somehow being side attracted by political issue
Speaker 2: maybe you know, social issue or political issue and some
Speaker 2: somehow a certain point of view has to be shut
Speaker 2: or shut down silence. Maybe I don't know, but I
Speaker 2: notice a lot of a lot of contemporaries as albut
Speaker 2: eye insense contemporaries. They believe a light wave wave, we
Speaker 2: need a medium and they should have some kind of
Speaker 2: transmission medium there and then right now, I try to
Speaker 2: avoid the world called the ether. It has an active connotation,
Speaker 2: So I would say, hey, just simple simple called black
Speaker 2: is black? Say it's just a magnetical also just a
Speaker 2: magnetic uh medium? You know, light as a magnetic electromagnetic
Speaker 2: wave right of course carried by electromagnetical medium. You you
Speaker 2: may see, you may you may notice I always struggling
Speaker 2: with the word electromagneta or magneta or something because in
Speaker 2: my mind only wouldn't type of wave magnetic wave?
Speaker 1: So are you talking about the zero point energy?
Speaker 2: Zero point? Can you? Can you define zero point energy
Speaker 2: to me? I think I know what you mean, But
Speaker 2: can you explain to audience? So what if this if.
Speaker 1: This is a if I'm in a box here or
Speaker 1: I don't know where the why the width of this
Speaker 1: box is, but the screen is this box? If I
Speaker 1: were to take all of the photons and heat, all
Speaker 1: of what we would think of the non vibrational energy
Speaker 1: out of this box. Then we would say there's no
Speaker 1: there's no energy left in there. Conventionally we would say that.
Speaker 1: But if we were to do stuff like to take
Speaker 1: the Casmir effect in that empty box, and we were
Speaker 1: to put two plates together, we would see them come together,
Speaker 1: and you would say, how is that possible? You took
Speaker 1: all the energy out of the box, but we're still
Speaker 1: seeing plates come together are on their own, So there
Speaker 1: must be some energy there. And you know, from what
Speaker 1: you described to me sounds like to me that's the
Speaker 1: answer to what you're saying, is that where's that light
Speaker 1: coming from. Well, it's not coming from the thermal energy.
Speaker 1: It's not coming from any other energy in this box
Speaker 1: other than the vibrations, the zero point energy.
Speaker 2: That's the medium id. But that's that's to say, Hey,
Speaker 2: all the all observable particles, everything, we can feel something
Speaker 2: to take it out. We know the universe. The space
Speaker 2: is not empathy, right, not the vacuum. The feel is
Speaker 2: the electromagnetic medium, and that's the vibration that medium that's
Speaker 2: transmitted the light and the created temperature so you you
Speaker 2: might know, right that the code is of the temperature
Speaker 2: in basic observation, right still like a street Kevin or something, yeah,
Speaker 2: something around that one. It's never be a zero, right yeah.
Speaker 1: But they you know. And then the whole idea too
Speaker 1: is that like they cool down, they create these artificial environments,
Speaker 1: so they cool thing is the region down to like
Speaker 1: absolute zero. And then we also have like superfluidity, you know,
Speaker 1: like heal, yes three will still act like a superfluid,
Speaker 1: doesn't freeze, so there must be some energy there just
Speaker 1: even using conventional physics to explain that. And then the
Speaker 1: big argument is, you know, the vacuum catastrophe. So where
Speaker 1: do you land on the vacuum catastrophe? Do you you know,
Speaker 1: what do you think the true energy the latent energy
Speaker 1: of the universes? Do you think it's just what we
Speaker 1: see with respect to heat or do you think it's
Speaker 1: the answer of when you know, Fineman and Wheeler took
Speaker 1: quantum mechanics and they added up all the modes all
Speaker 1: that europeant and they said, oh, it's one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty orders of magnitude or something like that. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's like the difference is huge like, so who's right.
Speaker 2: I just give you into even simple answer saying, hey,
Speaker 2: in those space of fiel the ways that this call
Speaker 2: the magnetic of fluids, right, Okay, so where the I
Speaker 2: need to come from? Because we do have a star galaxies.
Speaker 2: You see those bright lights or something where they come
Speaker 2: around that is from a new thermonuclear explosions. So what
Speaker 2: that do? They create a huge moving time barying magnet
Speaker 2: the field. Right, so you know even though we cannot
Speaker 2: see the stuff, we know the stuff is in motion
Speaker 2: have energy. That's why we can see light, you know, right,
Speaker 2: the light is the vibrations through that one. So we
Speaker 2: know that's the background of the wave. Is never never
Speaker 2: truly be stationary still because if a light goes through it,
Speaker 2: you know, you know the light the traveling throughout the
Speaker 2: street dimension of space, so you know it will will
Speaker 2: create the oscillations.
Speaker 1: Well, so let me ask this because when you say
Speaker 1: that and you say okay, you know any movement through
Speaker 1: space is going to be creating these excitations. Yes, I
Speaker 1: start to wonder, shouldn't like free and energy be possible
Speaker 1: free energy and the cut in the sense that like
Speaker 1: we have unlimited energy to tap into because if what
Speaker 1: you're saying is true, then stars and the light and
Speaker 1: the and the energy coming off stars are just a
Speaker 1: byproduct of this interaction happening in the medium. The should
Speaker 1: be able to recreate that even producer at a smaller scale.
Speaker 1: And I go, well, that seems like that's just unlimited
Speaker 1: access to energy. If we can figure that out, what
Speaker 1: do you think.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think that's true. So basically, WinCE Away, understand
Speaker 2: that based on the un theory, everything's started with fundamental
Speaker 2: with magnetic particles of magnetic medium and magnetica albents. Right,
Speaker 2: so everything all the universe beility that buy the single
Speaker 2: force magnetic field and field of force. So I think,
Speaker 2: of course, so I believe anything natural can happen, we
Speaker 2: can repeat by human being use this fundamental principle. And
Speaker 2: remember you said you said that when things is better,
Speaker 2: use a resonant the frequency. We do not need a
Speaker 2: huge energy. We can create the almost infinite magnitude. I believe.
Speaker 2: So that's why I do believe what is called a
Speaker 2: low energy nuclear reaction or something. Uh. And if you're
Speaker 2: talking about a zero point energy, it's all about the medium, right,
Speaker 2: the medium. If you can excite it, a medium at
Speaker 2: a certain resonant frequency, which excitation doesn't not that require
Speaker 2: lots of force. You're just a constantly, constantly small excitation.
Speaker 2: It just always a period of time, right, accumulation of
Speaker 2: time can create a huge energy. That that's why I
Speaker 2: do believe we can create like a best top of
Speaker 2: the type of a nuclear I'm not using nuclear fusion.
Speaker 2: I have a different definition of future. So a nuclear
Speaker 2: reaction device create create unlimited similite.
Speaker 1: You go ahead, I mean a star. The we're just
Speaker 1: trying to recreate star with fusion. And the secrets to
Speaker 1: the star is gravity. You know, it's not temperature. It's
Speaker 1: gravity as the secret. And then gravity produces the pressure
Speaker 1: and the temperature. And we've been trying to use We've
Speaker 1: just been discounting gravity this whole time. No wonder we've
Speaker 1: never figured out fusion for seventy years. And then you
Speaker 1: come in with you on theory, and this was actually
Speaker 1: on my list of questions to ask you, and I go,
Speaker 1: if everything's just a magnet, and you know, I sat
Speaker 1: and listen to you to talk about how okay, well
Speaker 1: it's going to repel because they're both like charges. But
Speaker 1: if they get too close, it's just a sphere, so
Speaker 1: it's going to rotate around and then it's going to
Speaker 1: connect back together. If you have control over that over
Speaker 1: all four forces, the fundamental forces, you can cause fusion
Speaker 1: to happen at will. And if you can cause fusion
Speaker 1: to happen at will, that's access to unlimited energy in
Speaker 1: my opinion, just from basic chemistry. Right. So I thought
Speaker 1: about that and I wanted to get your opinion then,
Speaker 1: because if that's the case, we don't need hot fusion anymore.
Speaker 1: Like you said, we should be able to produce low
Speaker 1: energy reactions by manipulating the forces that you know, atomic level,
Speaker 1: at the base level. And that kind of scares me
Speaker 1: because I think, like, do you think they've already figured
Speaker 1: this out or do you think you're the first one?
Speaker 2: No? No, no, you know you know, not only not
Speaker 2: only in the United States. I believe even in the
Speaker 2: rivals to be unitised to the other countries system, they
Speaker 2: still use the ibdive us a false fusion theory nuclear theory.
Speaker 2: You know, my my major engineer mechanics, right my advisors
Speaker 2: a nuclear engineer professor, and he was he eventually becomes
Speaker 2: the department chair of Nuclear and Engineer Physical department, you know. So,
Speaker 2: so I know a lot about the nuclear reactions in
Speaker 2: nuclear engineering theories.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: He's an RI student Ta and ra A. Right, So
Speaker 2: you know the reason of all the money we invested.
Speaker 2: What is that every time I heard a tent dy
Speaker 2: billion forty billion dollars accumulated over one hundreds billions at
Speaker 2: least the two hundred billions in worldwide. You know the
Speaker 2: end that they use the best and the brightest the
Speaker 2: physicist to do the would never say success because they
Speaker 2: misunderstood the fusion. Actually, I just let you know there
Speaker 2: are no energy created by combining two things together. That's
Speaker 2: called the fuse them together. That's a wrong concept. So however,
Speaker 2: we do measure that we not have a nuclear explosion.
Speaker 2: We do measure that. Okay, we do have a we
Speaker 2: do have a side of product. We don't have a
Speaker 2: fund heliums. Right, So just started with a fusion is
Speaker 2: a hydrogen you know something and eventually phoning forming helium.
Speaker 2: So we sat, okay, there must be fuse particle together
Speaker 2: create the energy. That's opposite. If let's see if I
Speaker 2: can explain to you and if you understand, I want
Speaker 2: you to into your audience. So What happens is I
Speaker 2: believe we're having no problem with the fish anything. You
Speaker 2: split the two, if you do any energy calculation, you doubles,
Speaker 2: you increase energy. So it means that whenever you split
Speaker 2: the one object to smaller objects, your same same same
Speaker 2: force pushing them, you you increase the energy. So the
Speaker 2: fusion when you buying them increase. That's not whenever you're
Speaker 2: buying two things and let them both moving together, you're slower.
Speaker 2: Okay you you you're moving slower, So that means energy
Speaker 2: and reduce. So then where comes the helium healing forms? Right?
Speaker 2: I believe the fure called the nuclear hydrogen bomb or
Speaker 2: fusion bomb or something is split the atom to a
Speaker 2: smaller your nuclear nuclear bomb, just split a nuclear you know,
Speaker 2: split what is a molecules you into little atoms or something.
Speaker 2: But if you said affusion, you split the atoms to
Speaker 2: the sub atomic a smaller What is the subatomic particles?
Speaker 2: Based on yours? They all magnet products, just smaller parts.
Speaker 2: When you split them, you always increase the energy. So
Speaker 2: so what I believe so called the atomic Obama versus
Speaker 2: a hydrogen bomba the difference is you split at a
Speaker 2: deeper level when all the magnetude deeper make particles sleepit dipper. However,
Speaker 2: the what happens when you split a sub atomic particle
Speaker 2: becomes a all the particles becomes a charge right forever. However,
Speaker 2: once they're cooling down, you know what happens the charge
Speaker 2: the particle our magnetic particle when it's high energy that
Speaker 2: I ever were when cooling down, they study neck together
Speaker 2: for that's formati. So human is a side product after
Speaker 2: deeper level level of fishing.
Speaker 1: That's really interesting in the context of like Stanley Meyer
Speaker 1: and his water powered car. Yes, he was arguing that
Speaker 1: he found a way to at low energy levels cause
Speaker 1: hydrogen and oxygen to come apart, and then he basically
Speaker 1: just moved it to a new area and then like
Speaker 1: a normal area, and then it would they would come
Speaker 1: back together.
Speaker 2: Just come back together. And that they also foam. I
Speaker 2: believe they form a helium as a neutral and they.
Speaker 1: Saw transmutation as well.
Speaker 2: Yes, and they'd be crashing, right, they be trashing the
Speaker 2: entire I thought, actually, you know what the kind of
Speaker 2: force and make them make them your use the electricity.
Speaker 2: You know, electricity is what is also vibration equivalent to excitation. Force.
Speaker 2: If you have an electricity hit at the resonance frequency
Speaker 2: of whatever you are, you're testing right, you know, eventually
Speaker 2: going to break the break atoms apart. I believe that's
Speaker 2: the right way to go. I want to energy myself
Speaker 2: about it. Why the big money use a high temperature
Speaker 2: couldnot create a future energy? You know what happens to
Speaker 2: charge the particle. So let's assuming they already high enough
Speaker 2: to make it all become charge le The only thing
Speaker 2: they can fuse it together is when you're cooling down.
Speaker 2: Now the charge particle, they slow down, so they aren't
Speaker 2: They no longer hit each other bumping back and forth.
Speaker 2: They started study connection write that way, but the current
Speaker 2: theory is saying you have have a huge temperature to
Speaker 2: fuse them together. You know what happens. They never fills
Speaker 2: them together because high energy make it keep constantly, constantly moving.
Speaker 2: You never see you do the sea helium will come out.
Speaker 2: What happens They increase the temperature another older magnitude and
Speaker 2: that problem comes Your container cannot hold that temperature. Right,
Speaker 2: you have to use you create a plasma, keep them
Speaker 2: away from a wall. This has become a new technology.
Speaker 2: Now how you keep the heat right away from the
Speaker 2: the wall container wall. That's a totally even come out
Speaker 2: of the different material new materials, right, But it's it's
Speaker 2: not gonna make a hu fusion world. Man.
Speaker 1: I think we should go into a consulting business. Maybe
Speaker 1: we can help solve some of these fusion companies because
Speaker 1: like it just it's I had the same exact thought,
Speaker 1: and it's just a logical thought. It's like, Okay, you're
Speaker 1: increasing the temperature and you're making the molecules bounce around.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to solve anything that's just the together, right,
Speaker 1: just random chance. We're just gonna hope that they randomly
Speaker 1: hit each other and all of the space. It's like
Speaker 1: as opposed to using a magnetic approach, which is like
Speaker 1: we're just gonna force their paths to come together. Like
Speaker 1: that just seems so much more obvious to me. So
Speaker 1: I don't want to get too much into the conspiratoral
Speaker 1: aspect of it, but I am very skeptical that why
Speaker 1: haven't other people figured this kind of out already? In
Speaker 1: my personal opinion is they probably have. And then it
Speaker 1: makes me question like, Okay, well are we being kind
Speaker 1: of like you know, you know, for example, what I
Speaker 1: will say, is that when you speak to energy amplification
Speaker 1: through vibrational amplification, that's that's dangerous. You know, energy amplification
Speaker 1: in general is dangerous, and I would surprise me.
Speaker 2: We have to control it the right exactly.
Speaker 1: So when find it surprised me to find out that yes,
Speaker 1: we could do fusion very efficiently using these concepts, but
Speaker 1: that it's also very dangerous and that we also don't
Speaker 1: want to just give that to everybody out on the planet.
Speaker 1: Do you would you agree with that?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Where do you stand on the dangers of some of
Speaker 1: this science?
Speaker 2: Oh? I believe if you use us now the high energy,
Speaker 2: high temperature, use electromagnetically induce the vibration. Uh, you know,
Speaker 2: to us try to create a resonance to a material.
Speaker 2: You can split them out. When you split them, you
Speaker 2: know what happens, right, That's where people ask a word
Speaker 2: a nuclear for nuclear ethogy come from to connect the particles,
Speaker 2: the magnetic connect when you split it. You know what
Speaker 2: happens when the split it and the bouncing back and
Speaker 2: the force. When when's bouncing back and the force, you
Speaker 2: have attraction and initiate a repulsion. Now attraction, you're reproaching,
Speaker 2: so the back and the force and just had the
Speaker 2: increase not the just the not just the regular called
Speaker 2: the impact. If you have a like time to particle impact,
Speaker 2: the higher you impact, the bigger the reporting force. Right,
Speaker 2: so the back of the force. So now you'll see,
Speaker 2: oh everything's started. Energy increase the heat and energy increase
Speaker 2: the mag that's called the magnetic reportion. I believe that's
Speaker 2: that's where play a huge part of the nuclear and.
Speaker 1: Well, if any spooks are watching, I just want everyone
Speaker 1: to know that doctor you from NASA just taught me
Speaker 1: how to make a fusion bomb. So you know what,
Speaker 1: it's not on me. You can blame NASA. They're the
Speaker 1: ones who taught me how to do it. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: Uh but no, that's good. I appreciate that conversation. But
Speaker 1: let's move just a little bit away from the possibly
Speaker 1: end of the world creating destruction bombs, and let I
Speaker 1: want to ask more questions on you on theory in
Speaker 1: terms of how it can explain stuff in cosmology. So
Speaker 1: I think I understand your explanation of dark matter. That
Speaker 1: one I think is the easiest to explain with you
Speaker 1: on theory because I've already been thinking for like fifteen
Speaker 1: years that like, can't magnetism just explain this idea that galaxies,
Speaker 1: the stars in our galaxies are rotating faster than we
Speaker 1: would expect if we just had like a pinwheel.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, jumping, You said, a fastertain we expect only
Speaker 2: when we use the Newtonian concept.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if we use electromagnetic concept or magnetic concept,
Speaker 1: then the speeds are actually match what we would expect.
Speaker 1: Is that you know, we've got this if you just
Speaker 1: use like the right hand rule and electrical engineering and
Speaker 1: you just look at the rotat the of the galaxies,
Speaker 1: then it all makes sense. That part. No problem with
Speaker 1: the part I think I need a little bit more explanation.
Speaker 1: Maybe not. Is the dark energy side of it? So
Speaker 1: dark energy. The way I look at it is like
Speaker 1: if I had some paint and a canvas or this table,
Speaker 1: and I pour the paint on the table, It's gonna
Speaker 1: spread out kind of all over the table evenly. That's
Speaker 1: kind of how I imagine like space time spreading or
Speaker 1: like the energy spreading out throughout space time to create
Speaker 1: you know, our reality. So when you explained it, I
Speaker 1: think you did. I love your plasma globe. By the way,
Speaker 1: I got to get one of those for my back.
Speaker 1: When you put your hand on it. I like the
Speaker 1: idea that you're like, oh, why do the tendrils, why
Speaker 1: do they all spread out? Like why aren't the tendrils
Speaker 1: like coming together? It almost look evenly spread out. So
Speaker 1: I guess what you're saying there is that there's attractive
Speaker 1: and repulsive forces that happen on these large scales that
Speaker 1: would cause them, like the kind of paint to spread
Speaker 1: out of the canvas. Or what is your analysis of
Speaker 1: why we how dark energy is solved?
Speaker 2: I believe it could be your spirit. Uh, spill the
Speaker 2: pain the right, spread it over uh, and of course
Speaker 2: follow the least resistance fast right when you spread. But
Speaker 2: you know for the plasma ball, because you know at
Speaker 2: the center of it, that's that's testa coil on the
Speaker 2: one side of the tesla coil. You know, testa oil
Speaker 2: is highly electromagnet generated electromagnifield. So when we use a
Speaker 2: win kip a ball on the top right, so that
Speaker 2: means it's all the same the like a pole, it's
Speaker 2: all from started with the same light pole. So that's
Speaker 2: why you you you're shooting you're shooting. This is called
Speaker 2: the filament. The filament that is all started with like
Speaker 2: a pole. So that's why repulsion and since everywhere repulsion,
Speaker 2: So that's why you were to see each each pushing
Speaker 2: together eventually almost uniformly in all the directions. Does that
Speaker 2: make sense to you? You explain to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you remind me of a different thing that you
Speaker 1: showed where you had like a magnet, right and you
Speaker 1: put like three poles in it and they pull, they
Speaker 1: spread out from one another. Oh you have it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was actually the best visual now because.
Speaker 2: Now, oh you think this is a visual better than
Speaker 2: sho that one. Yes, you know, I have a strong
Speaker 2: new themium magnets inside and I put it this one inside.
Speaker 2: You know, I like a collector all the physical souvenirs.
Speaker 2: But my son told me you shouldn't. You should not
Speaker 2: the use of this one as an exemple. He said,
Speaker 2: people would be definitely distracted, but they need I just
Speaker 2: use it as a holder of a magnet. Okay, so
Speaker 2: now I have a three. You know, this is just
Speaker 2: a stainless steel, you know, some kind of steel. It's
Speaker 2: aself of another magnets. But I try to say how
Speaker 2: to demonstrate the lack a pole repel. I said, hey,
Speaker 2: since I have a magnets all on the bottom side,
Speaker 2: there is the wooden side of the magnets. I hope
Speaker 2: you can see it's right, yep, And then put another one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they repel.
Speaker 2: Oh you like this one better.
Speaker 1: That That makes a lot of sense to me because
Speaker 1: then I look at that as like the universe is like,
Speaker 1: oh no, wonder they repel because you can see they
Speaker 1: repel more and more and more as they get for
Speaker 1: like as it kind of expands out.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, so I may use this one more.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I use plus my eyes so that hey, that
Speaker 2: represented the universe. Yeah. So so basically people can understand.
Speaker 2: So it's so called the dark energy or we caught
Speaker 2: a dark force just pushing something away from each other,
Speaker 2: just a magnetic repulsion, right.
Speaker 1: You have to Yeah, No, that's that's good.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 1: Let me ask, though, then, how do you explain These
Speaker 1: are two questions I don't think i've seen you explain.
Speaker 1: Maybe you have. How do you explain mass and inertia?
Speaker 1: And there's an equivalence principle between the two as well,
Speaker 1: So how does magnetism alone explain why there's mass at all.
Speaker 2: You ask a great question. Actually that's a mystery about
Speaker 2: the mass, right, I don't if you think about the
Speaker 2: origin of a mess right now, under quantum mechanical frame,
Speaker 2: we solved there was the twenty twelve. But he Higgs
Speaker 2: Higgs right, Higgs Boson right, So that's try to solving
Speaker 2: where the mass come from based on the quantum mechanics.
Speaker 2: Or everything's a single a point particle, So how could
Speaker 2: the point particle generate a mess?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: So they use called the interact uses a point particle
Speaker 2: interact with a field that they called it called the
Speaker 2: Haiggs field. Now my question is does the Haiggs field,
Speaker 2: How does the Higgs field can interact with a point particle?
Speaker 2: How could they interact? Use the word interact because the
Speaker 2: Haiggs field, I believe, if my understanding is correct, it's
Speaker 2: a neutral field. It's not a magnetic field. Is that right?
Speaker 1: I think that Yeah. Generally, I haven't heard enough explanation
Speaker 1: of how the Higgs field. My understand is the Higgs
Speaker 1: field does not adequately explain where all the masks can
Speaker 1: come from. Now here's where I would push back on
Speaker 1: you or push back on that and ask you is
Speaker 1: that I would say, why doesn't the zero point energy
Speaker 1: just explain it? So you know, you get rid of
Speaker 1: the Higgs field. Okay, okay, instead of that thermal energy
Speaker 1: that we've got out there, Let's take that zero point
Speaker 1: in that vibrational energy that you talked about that can
Speaker 1: amplify it.
Speaker 2: That's to where the medium. That's exactly that's the I'm
Speaker 2: called the medium. The medium could be at a zero
Speaker 2: point right or at the point.
Speaker 3: Yes, the maximums what's giving you mass're the medium interact?
Speaker 2: The medium interact. The modium electron is a magnetic medium, okay,
Speaker 2: interest is a particle particle.
Speaker 3: What a particle is, oh particle by magnet magnetic particle,
Speaker 3: So that's why they interact. You have a resistance, I
Speaker 3: hope I I solving the mystery of a mass, right,
Speaker 3: That's what it is called. The mass is resistance of motion.
Speaker 2: Right. That means it's a force can changeing motion.
Speaker 1: And that's why there's an equivalence principle between inertia and mass,
Speaker 1: because when you move around, you're just moving through the
Speaker 1: resistance of the magnetic moment. If you want to consider that,
Speaker 1: like you know, the same reason why I can't move
Speaker 1: my hand through this, like there's repulsion that's occurring there.
Speaker 1: And that happens even on the small scales, even if
Speaker 1: I was in outer space, because even in outer space
Speaker 1: there still is that zero point energy. Even if you
Speaker 1: remove all the energy from the space region, you're still
Speaker 1: going to have that inertia, You're still going to have
Speaker 1: that mass. And this is why I love your theory,
Speaker 1: because you can literally just set the idea of zero
Speaker 1: point energy right on top of your theory. It makes
Speaker 1: a perfect sense.
Speaker 2: That's the media. You cannot you for price of ways
Speaker 2: that a medium you own to see light, You want
Speaker 2: to see anything, right, And if.
Speaker 1: It's one more thought is that if anybody or to say,
Speaker 1: oh they want to challenge it, which I would love
Speaker 1: for people challenges that. Even Leonard Suskaide was asked about
Speaker 1: if we remove all this energy, how how can there
Speaker 1: be something there still? Well, well, how can there be
Speaker 1: something there? And he goes, yes, there's something there and
Speaker 1: it's electromagnetic. He says it has charge. And they go,
Speaker 1: how can that have charge if there's no mass, if
Speaker 1: there's nothing actually there's no energy or act there, and
Speaker 1: and that he says, I don't know where it can
Speaker 1: come from. Well, you just said it. It's there must
Speaker 1: be a medium and that electromagnetic, and it's.
Speaker 2: The interactive moving particles are magnetic. Two right, they are
Speaker 2: interacting magnetic.
Speaker 1: So isn't it just a beautiful kind of way to
Speaker 1: piece everything together? And and I love it also too
Speaker 1: that you can now explain from your magnetic you on
Speaker 1: theory all the fundamental forces and we don't need any
Speaker 1: of them. And the thing that's beautiful about physics is
Speaker 1: the most simplest. The simplest answers are usually the.
Speaker 2: Best, right, can you? I want your audience to understand
Speaker 2: how how is it unified? Let's say, do we need
Speaker 2: a strofs? I want you to explain it because your
Speaker 2: audience that worthy or understand that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So like this strong nuclear force, why if I
Speaker 1: take two positively charged or two negatively charged things, if
Speaker 1: I bring them together, they should repel, right if they
Speaker 1: get too close to right? So the reason why that
Speaker 1: is if you imagine their balls, if you imagine it's
Speaker 1: a ball of charge, a sphere of charge, then yes,
Speaker 1: they will repel at first, but if they get too close,
Speaker 1: the sphere is gonna rotate and then you'll have then
Speaker 1: they'll attract together. Boom. Now you have the strong nuclear force.
Speaker 1: And then when you describe the weak force. This is
Speaker 1: the one that I had the hardest time to understand,
Speaker 1: but when you showed the image it made so much sense.
Speaker 1: Is that we see this beta decay. We'll see this
Speaker 1: spontaneous decay where we see electrons get shot out from
Speaker 1: our nucleus. How can that be possible? Well, it turns
Speaker 1: out if we slam something in to our our atom,
Speaker 1: our nucleus, then we we'll see stuff get shot out
Speaker 1: the other side. So yeah, just conservation of energy. And
Speaker 1: we're in in this magnetic, this medium all the time,
Speaker 1: so of course things are interacting all the time. Things
Speaker 1: are getting hit all the time. So that would explain
Speaker 1: the weak force as well. And then gravity. You I
Speaker 1: think that your view of gravity works perfectly well with
Speaker 1: zero point energy because the zero point energy it is
Speaker 1: also electromagnetic. And what we're basically just saying is gravity
Speaker 1: is an electromagnetic force. Your explanation of taking the magnet,
Speaker 1: let me see if I can use like my phone right,
Speaker 1: or actually you have the magnets right, If you could
Speaker 1: do that explanation would be great. Yes, please, this is
Speaker 1: the one that I loved. Oh you know even when
Speaker 1: I when you showed this the first time, I didn't
Speaker 1: even know what was going to happen, which just goes
Speaker 1: to show that even somebody who's been studying physics, you
Speaker 1: don't know, Like, that's a very powerful magnet right now,
Speaker 1: and it can pick up something very very heavy. Right,
Speaker 1: look at that. But then all you do is folded
Speaker 1: in half. Right, Yeah, there you go. Perfect?
Speaker 2: So even that tiny ball, yep, yeah, I believe it.
Speaker 2: I can pick a tub ball together. Oh wow, I
Speaker 2: cannot pick a three. Okay. So then my question is
Speaker 2: what do if I folded this one? I'm so happy
Speaker 2: when I watch you. I know you are you even
Speaker 2: stop them, stop them your video ask people questions, right,
Speaker 2: So I said, hey, so these are these are just
Speaker 2: regular magnetic interaction, right, not nothing serious? What if I
Speaker 2: folded this one makes senter gravity lower and foot again? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I believe who uh you know, Patrick a bad David
Speaker 2: form my for for my traffic this one. And so Terrence, right,
Speaker 2: Terrence Howard, I said, hey, if I make travel graphy lower,
Speaker 2: I was trying to.
Speaker 1: And then so yeah, pass intuitive because most people look
Speaker 1: at that, and they think it's still going to pick
Speaker 1: the stuff.
Speaker 2: Up I have. Basically, we'll have a stronger magnets closer
Speaker 2: to that one.
Speaker 1: Right, should be smart stronger, right, but logically you would
Speaker 1: think it was. But you know, go ahead and do it.
Speaker 2: Almost almost ninety nine percent of people say that one
Speaker 2: very you. Okay, there's some about to say that. I
Speaker 2: may not even believable. You know what he's he's he's understanding.
Speaker 2: So if I do this one I ever thought to
Speaker 2: think about it? Now, you should have picked up all
Speaker 2: shoot the balls?
Speaker 1: Mm hm, can't even pick up any of them? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Can you even pick up a small one? No?
Speaker 2: Right, I hope you can see my small ball? Can
Speaker 2: you see a small ball?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I can't even pick that up. Wow, incredible.
Speaker 2: What happens is if I failed even.
Speaker 1: More, Yeah, it's gonna get even weaker, right or no,
Speaker 1: because it can get stronger again after it starts to
Speaker 1: become long again though, right, Oh, you mean.
Speaker 2: If I unfolded, you're long stronger. But if i'm I
Speaker 2: mean if I folded food to make it even come
Speaker 2: pack it.
Speaker 1: So I have two questions on this. So my first one,
Speaker 1: I guess is what is super conductivity. How do you
Speaker 1: explain super conductivity because it repels all magnetic fields, right,
Speaker 1: so how does that work in the context of this theory?
Speaker 1: And then I also just want to say, I love
Speaker 1: that because what you explain there. And all the physicists
Speaker 1: come to me when I say that electricity unifies general
Speaker 1: relativity and quantum mechanics, and they say, oh, no, gravity
Speaker 1: is too weak. And even though you look at the
Speaker 1: terms the actual equations and you realize that electric force
Speaker 1: and gravity have like the same formations in terms of
Speaker 1: the equations, it's just the constant that's different. And so
Speaker 1: people say, oh, why is it weaker? Well, you just
Speaker 1: explained it because you just folded in half. Now you've
Speaker 1: got the same amount of masks, but your force just
Speaker 1: became much much weaker. So thank you for that explanation.
Speaker 1: But so explain to me super conductivity and how that
Speaker 1: all fits in the role of.
Speaker 2: This I actually I have an experimented to demonstrate it.
Speaker 2: Super conductivity is actually just a magnetic phenomenon.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 2: So right now, where ever, about to try to strive
Speaker 2: for super room temperature conductivity? Right? Super doesn't doesn't not
Speaker 2: that means good? Super means you have to be a
Speaker 2: super cold temperature, right room of temperature conductivity. That's what
Speaker 2: we really wanted to applic apply. So if if if
Speaker 2: you allow me, I'm going to just set up. If
Speaker 2: you take a takeo long you can, you can cut
Speaker 2: a I'm going to show you. I'm gonna I'm.
Speaker 1: Glad we'll have them ed, no problem.
Speaker 2: Right, So then I'm going to show you what I
Speaker 2: what I have here. We have a room superconductive room
Speaker 2: superconductivity too, you know. Yeah, so that's what I try
Speaker 2: to say. So I have a oh my goodness, you
Speaker 2: know okay, when you whenever you're dealing with the magnet
Speaker 2: you know you you said very well everything bawling ball
Speaker 2: down to magnetism, right, so that's why. So right now
Speaker 2: let me see if I how can I demonstration that's
Speaker 2: one to you? H m. I have a six magnets.
Speaker 2: Can you see that one? Ye? Yep, you can see
Speaker 2: the megan So I'm must do. I'm gonna just just
Speaker 2: keep it to keep it the keep it that you're here,
Speaker 2: you can see that, right, Okay, So now what happens, Oh,
Speaker 2: what happens is here I have this called the poom
Speaker 2: graphie graphite. You know, just just type of a graphite
Speaker 2: given the ships. Let me see if that can make
Speaker 2: make make any sense to you. Okay, and that's a
Speaker 2: demonstrator what it is the super room of temperature superconductivity
Speaker 2: is okay, I'm not sure if if the okay, let's
Speaker 2: let's let's use this one. I have to take it
Speaker 2: out otherwise I cannot say, hey, did you see does
Speaker 2: things of floating?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, can you see it's a floating Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can see it.
Speaker 2: You can see that, right, and I can if I
Speaker 2: have a piece of paper.
Speaker 1: So it's definitely hovering above the top. So why though,
Speaker 1: is it because of the configuration and the magnets that
Speaker 1: you put it is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So so you you do see it's hovering, hovering there
Speaker 2: right as you can't see it, so so you're know
Speaker 2: it's harving. So this is exactly what called a room
Speaker 2: temper youre uh, you know conductions you know, so basically
Speaker 2: the so called ress remember electric the reason that that
Speaker 2: we said, hey, if we can reduce electrical resistance, so
Speaker 2: we can have a constant the consonant the energy never
Speaker 2: So that's why we we'll have unlimited energy because they
Speaker 2: never consuming. That's that's a run concept, you know, if
Speaker 2: you if you think about it, the so called the
Speaker 2: electricity electricity is oscillation, right, yeah, the oscillation. So work
Speaker 2: comes to the resistance, you know, the particle oscillation, what
Speaker 2: comes to reason? You know, when the oscillation, you create
Speaker 2: a rotational acceleration, right, anglar acceleration, So the resistance is
Speaker 2: created accelerated as angular momentum, you know, right, So that's
Speaker 2: there part of the that's part of the resistance come
Speaker 2: from another part of you know, probably friction over heat,
Speaker 2: so the particles random bumping each other, right, so when
Speaker 2: they're alcinating, they could be a little bit of bouncing
Speaker 2: each other and reduce some energy. So that's why it
Speaker 2: never it never. There's nothing called the resistant electron motion.
Speaker 2: That's what definitions we said that electron move on the
Speaker 2: super super disks. So that's why if you can reduce it,
Speaker 2: reduce the resistance, it can keep keep on motion. No,
Speaker 2: that's not the word resistant come from. You know, it's all.
Speaker 1: Because you know, we've seen stuff like.
Speaker 2: Crap.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of good examples. But oh so
Speaker 1: like Cooper pairs then, so like what is a Cooper pair?
Speaker 1: Then if you're saying that it's you know, a local excitation,
Speaker 1: therefore nothing's actually moving. But we've measured superconductivity and we're
Speaker 1: seeing these effects. So what actually is done?
Speaker 2: Oh that's where you come come after to magnetism. You
Speaker 2: remember what they do is they put up cold the temperature.
Speaker 2: You know what the cold the temporary to temperature can
Speaker 2: do to water make a water to eyes? Right? What
Speaker 2: what what the difference between water ice, the crystal item
Speaker 2: crystal item? Basically you align the negative positive positive crystal
Speaker 2: grow the crystals is an actually positive? You align them.
Speaker 2: So what happens you form a magnets So now magnetic force,
Speaker 2: you're forming a maganeta force. The same thing happens to
Speaker 2: call the superconductive material the particles and the super cold.
Speaker 2: What happens super cold basically create the condition just create
Speaker 2: a condition less friction so that that kind of free
Speaker 2: rotation now free rotation free. So it's basically all the
Speaker 2: particles are started lying as a magnet. In every layers
Speaker 2: there becomes a magnetic particle. So that's why it's a graphite.
Speaker 2: Have a one layer is layer lay that different layers
Speaker 2: different lay layup and on bottom is a. It's a
Speaker 2: wind magnet pole on the bi different layers, different magnepole.
Speaker 2: So that's why you wered you were suddenly suspended. Oh
Speaker 2: my godness, I have another I have another evidence to shoe.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if it sounds all like magnet inversion.
Speaker 2: That yes, exactly, magnetic version. That's called the di magnetism. Right,
Speaker 2: somehow make it becomes a dimagnetic So that's what the
Speaker 2: colde the temperature you do, so do now the believer code.
Speaker 2: The temperature truly can make a resistance to zero. The
Speaker 2: most of the resistance. When you make a particle oscillation,
Speaker 2: you're consuming accelerating force, consuming to accelerate the particles. Right, Yes,
Speaker 2: that's part of resistance, of course. I'm a part of
Speaker 2: is due to heat or something reveals the motion.
Speaker 1: This makes a lot of sense. Remember LK ninety nine
Speaker 1: with that room temperature superconductor. They had experiments and the
Speaker 1: big pushback was that it never got to absolute zero resistance,
Speaker 1: like it was really really really really low but not actually.
Speaker 2: And still still have a similar resistance basically, Yes, I
Speaker 2: I remember, evenough.
Speaker 1: We're looking at it levitating like we're literally right.
Speaker 2: Levitating just like a just like a superconductive just like
Speaker 2: a magnetsm floating, right, Yeah, and.
Speaker 1: That would imply that it's something fundamentally they've misunderstood about
Speaker 1: the concept in general. And that's what you're saying here,
Speaker 1: is that you know, as you cool it down, the
Speaker 1: lattice structure of the magnet forms in case.
Speaker 2: Of one form of magnetic a structure.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that's in place. And so you could see
Speaker 1: that same thing happening when you do that to any material.
Speaker 1: And so that's why you might see that, and then
Speaker 1: you could theoretically, you know, create that same effect at
Speaker 1: a higher temperature. And this actually makes me think of
Speaker 1: another question I wanted to lead into, which is do
Speaker 1: you think we can make like coherent balls of plasma
Speaker 1: under this theory? So if you're saying everything's magnetism and
Speaker 1: we can control all the forces, and we've been talking
Speaker 1: about fusion, why can't I just make a ball of
Speaker 1: plasma that can float around freely because theoretically I can
Speaker 1: control all the forces at the fundamental level.
Speaker 2: Sure, this is very similar to anti gravity force, right
Speaker 2: if you can tell you know gravity? Okay, so I
Speaker 2: just say in my I give you my results from
Speaker 2: you all theory. Say gravity is like a magnetic attraction,
Speaker 2: just magnetism part of attraction, part of magnetism. So if
Speaker 2: you're watching the the the PbD that the podcast, I
Speaker 2: use a different language. I said, oh, gravity is the
Speaker 2: manifestation of magnetism or a summation. Remember summation of electric
Speaker 2: magnetic body. You know, summation of a mass system when
Speaker 2: when you when you have a lot of matter mass together,
Speaker 2: actually you reduce the force. Right, It's not like incream messa.
Speaker 2: So I use the call the summation or called the
Speaker 2: research your force of of the magnetic body. You you
Speaker 2: you made so so basically so the gravity is a magnetics,
Speaker 2: part of magnetics.
Speaker 1: So just to cancel out any anti gravity would just
Speaker 1: be uh, you know, a reverse charge or a reverse
Speaker 1: force going the other direction.
Speaker 2: Since the gravity we saw the attraction only force is
Speaker 2: a magnetic is part of magnetic But however magnetism has
Speaker 2: both attraction and the repulsion. Right, so we do able
Speaker 2: to use you set a manipulated plasma bol COUNTERWD counter
Speaker 2: gravity counter earth magnetic field. If you just kind of
Speaker 2: reverse counter control the magnetic field of the platform counter
Speaker 2: earth attraction man field, you're not that is a floating
Speaker 2: You could have been repelled at the accelerated when I.
Speaker 1: Go in any direction then, right, like just pretty simply.
Speaker 2: I hope it doesn't justify the u f O phenomena,
Speaker 2: right you ap phenomena.
Speaker 1: I think people that don't see the connection between the
Speaker 1: UFO stuff and magnetism, like I just don't know how
Speaker 1: to help them, because like I can look at the superconductivity,
Speaker 1: I can just look at like magnetic levitation in general,
Speaker 1: and it looks just like all these UFO videos flying
Speaker 1: around exactly same. They got to be using magnetism, right,
Speaker 1: I believe if.
Speaker 2: They are more advanced than us, or somebody asked me
Speaker 2: in the in the past, could be in the in
Speaker 2: the past of human reads. It could be mastered this
Speaker 2: kind of technology, right, You just need to reverse the
Speaker 2: magnetic field so then it can can build itself, like
Speaker 2: what is the pyramid or or something coral? What is
Speaker 2: the death in the Florida Oral castle or coral cat
Speaker 2: or something? It is highly them, might be, might be
Speaker 2: not that complicated. M hm.
Speaker 1: A couple more physics questions for you. So, do you
Speaker 1: think that the universe is scale invariant? Do you think
Speaker 1: that we can make an atom at the size of
Speaker 1: a human like scale it up that way then, because
Speaker 1: if you're saying that everything is just magnets, like the
Speaker 1: way you've described everything to me today, I see no
Speaker 1: reason why you couldn't just make something bigger at the
Speaker 1: same you know, scale invariant. Everything just tiny little magnets,
Speaker 1: and then you just add them together make bigger.
Speaker 2: That's what we see in the sum or in some
Speaker 2: of some some of the giant you know, the oportunity
Speaker 2: that we're talking about the black hole. What is the
Speaker 2: six a billion times a mass of a sum, right,
Speaker 2: which is the is You know what happens with it?
Speaker 2: You have a launching magnet together, you have a limit.
Speaker 2: You launched them up. They started to force a reduce, right,
Speaker 2: to feel the redeals to become the neutual. When you're
Speaker 2: too much, you know what happens is unstable now unstable,
Speaker 2: very easily to create what is the ejection? Suddenly the
Speaker 2: fourth is so weak, right, Suddenly local is instead of attraction,
Speaker 2: they rotated and then becomes ejection. So that's why that's
Speaker 2: called the radioactivity. So that's where all the radioactive material
Speaker 2: has atomic upounding a number greater than eighty six or
Speaker 2: eighty four. You know, yeah, if you counted everything heavier
Speaker 2: than that one. So if it becomes radioactive, because unstable.
Speaker 2: So that's what I try to answer, you do we
Speaker 2: have a limited I believe once you land together enough
Speaker 2: probably the very easy way to create uh what is
Speaker 2: it called the uh what is supernova or something you
Speaker 2: know exploded and something? Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're saying the big energetic events like as
Speaker 1: we just keep stacking things together.
Speaker 2: It's not like you there the balance a point, right, even.
Speaker 1: In a black hole? They say, so even if we
Speaker 1: were say okay, we get to this point where it
Speaker 1: gets so large, we have such a gravitational force that
Speaker 1: light can't escape. There's these huge like ejections that are.
Speaker 2: Like on the perfectly access to the black holes, right,
Speaker 2: yeahing radiation To talk about it, you just have a pap,
Speaker 2: you know. You know, I do not believable we need
Speaker 2: a black hole, right.
Speaker 1: I know. I was going to ask you that's why,
Speaker 1: And so it sounds like you know, you're kind of playing.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you're playing both sides here where
Speaker 1: you're saying, okay, well, you know, I guess you're I
Speaker 1: think your argument is going to be that it gets
Speaker 1: so big where it's unstable. Therefore a black hole couldn't
Speaker 1: really become stable, and therefore they shouldn't exist. Is that
Speaker 1: where you're getting at? Oh?
Speaker 2: No, not that you have that dipart you know, you know,
Speaker 2: we know every galaxy or every super giant all particular,
Speaker 2: they have a certain limit beyond that limit that they
Speaker 2: create a ceremonuclear reaction. You were, there were some dynamic
Speaker 2: balance right throughout, something coming back and surround. As to
Speaker 2: keep repeating this pattern, I try to say, black hole
Speaker 2: is another it's an about the way missing matter. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's another about the way missing force. We still have
Speaker 2: the same force, just instead of a gravitational force, we
Speaker 2: use a back that the force. Does that make sense
Speaker 2: to you?
Speaker 1: So we could go ahead, keep on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So if you travel in near center of the
Speaker 2: galaxy without without a black hole, you still crowd probably
Speaker 2: want to be burned objects nearby that yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: The center of the black the universe, even without a
Speaker 1: black hole, is going to be a center of the
Speaker 1: galaxy is going to be a very tumultuous place filled
Speaker 1: with high energy reactions. Right, yes, So so you think
Speaker 1: that so you do you don't think that black I
Speaker 1: guess you're saying that you don't think we need black holes,
Speaker 1: but they still could be possible. Is that what you're
Speaker 1: kind of a right?
Speaker 2: Yes? Oh, I want to emphasize the win thing about
Speaker 2: the black hole. Are you living in Florida or in
Speaker 2: somewhere else where?
Speaker 1: Do you I love Minnesota or we're in Minnesota?
Speaker 2: Or the weather you use a central time? Have you
Speaker 2: studied in Florida or have you lived in Florida before? Okay?
Speaker 2: So what I my analysis to uh to black hole
Speaker 2: is that if you live in Florida, you go through
Speaker 2: hurr hurricane season? Have you? Okay? You know That's where
Speaker 2: I learned something counter into the I'm living at Merry Island.
Speaker 2: It's the island, so you know the barrier island. Every
Speaker 2: time hurricane they falls, you to you know, to move
Speaker 2: somewhere else. Right at the one year, we have a
Speaker 2: neighbor from Miami. They said, how we are not moving?
Speaker 2: They came from Miami is more than the central Orlando
Speaker 2: are right? They said, oh, we've been through this one
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. Okay. So I said, okay, I will follow you.
Speaker 2: So I think another moving you know, what happens hurricane comes,
Speaker 2: before her comes, everything's shaking. After the center of the
Speaker 2: eye reach them, everything suddenly totally quiet. Have you been
Speaker 2: through that?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that happens in Minnesota, to the tornadoes. You
Speaker 1: get to the eye of the tornado and it's just oh.
Speaker 2: Why too, that's a similar phenomenon. So I said, why
Speaker 2: it is another? Wind is quiet because all the heavy particles,
Speaker 2: the moistures in the air completely just like spined out,
Speaker 2: just like what what's your machine? All the words spinned
Speaker 2: out right, all the closes on the wall in the
Speaker 2: center is completely empathy. That's what I found. Oh my goodness,
Speaker 2: the center, I feel like wind is having no wind,
Speaker 2: no sound, and then no wind. I said, where did
Speaker 2: the wind go? All the particles the wind particles look
Speaker 2: on the wall or on the hurricane wall outside of
Speaker 2: the eye. And also there is no clouds when you
Speaker 2: look through the eye, no clouds. It feels like it's
Speaker 2: a complete that fils the peace. Yeah, that's what I
Speaker 2: have iopt. But that's what happens to black hole. We're
Speaker 2: called the hole. It's another because black it's not because
Speaker 2: the gravity is so strong, no particle can no light.
Speaker 2: I believe that's absent matter or my son given name
Speaker 2: is card. It's called the void, black hole, black hole,
Speaker 2: he called a black avoid.
Speaker 1: It's an actual nothingness, right, It's like there's actually just
Speaker 1: nothing there. That's why we see it as a black void,
Speaker 1: because the forces everything's pushing pointing around it, just like
Speaker 1: the eye of the storm, right. You see, if you're
Speaker 1: in it, you would see nothing. And actually, I I
Speaker 1: love that theory perfectly, honestly, and I wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 1: to find out that it's real at the end of
Speaker 1: the day. And this this makes me think about wormholes
Speaker 1: as well, Okay, because this is this idea of an
Speaker 1: Einstein Rosen bridge, which would say, if we make that
Speaker 1: that black hole, that that space, what's really happening is
Speaker 1: you are creating a bridge between some point there and
Speaker 1: some other point anywhere else in the universe, and that
Speaker 1: if you were actually somehow to be able to go
Speaker 1: into that, really you're just going through a bridge and
Speaker 1: that's a shortcut between space and time. Do you you
Speaker 1: think that's possible given your understanding of black holes and
Speaker 1: what have you, What are your thoughts on Einstein Rosen bridges?
Speaker 2: Oh, I doubt that I went through. But you know,
Speaker 2: now I'm thinking about how about the black of void
Speaker 2: could have that effect? Yeah, could I have? Now you
Speaker 2: know you may not. You know, so called the black
Speaker 2: hole is still out in the center right, just a
Speaker 2: article partly, so you're still flying there, right, If a
Speaker 2: black avoid, do you still have an ampty space there right,
Speaker 2: and you still have a force the dragon them, So
Speaker 2: I'm now the exclude of that possibility.
Speaker 1: I guess way I would look at is if the
Speaker 1: universe is like I guess hard explaining maybe you know
Speaker 1: the word for this, but like if I go in
Speaker 1: one direction in the universe and I just keep going
Speaker 1: in one direction and I end up back where I was,
Speaker 1: Like if I just after a while, if you look
Speaker 1: at it like that, then I would say this point
Speaker 1: black hole cannot exist, Like there cannot be a singularity
Speaker 1: that goes to nothing. That must go and open up
Speaker 1: to something else somewhere else. So like I would argue
Speaker 1: that every black hole, if one does exist, must have
Speaker 1: a white hole somewhere else, either in our reality or another.
Speaker 2: It goes through the whole, right, it's first a black
Speaker 2: hole dragon you're in right to the other side of
Speaker 2: it called the white hole.
Speaker 1: Let me push your yeah.
Speaker 2: Another one is a yeah.
Speaker 1: So based on what you said here, I see no
Speaker 1: reason why negative energy couldn't exist, because you're saying that
Speaker 1: magnetism interacting with the medium is like churning up the ether.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's pulling energy out of the ether, and
Speaker 1: then you can polarize it positively or you can polarize
Speaker 1: your interaction positively or minus. And I would say, okay,
Speaker 1: if that's the case, then now negative energy would just
Speaker 1: be depending on how you polarize it.
Speaker 2: If you consider positive charge in negative charge, polarize a
Speaker 2: different way. I don't know how the nective energy defined, right,
Speaker 2: you know convention that it defined the energy like that
Speaker 2: positive a number. Right. However, if you relatively if you
Speaker 2: you define a different ways, say relatively absolute a zero degree, right,
Speaker 2: if you define that one, could we could it define
Speaker 2: some energy right below? It's always so so called the
Speaker 2: absolutely zero could have could be not not not that case,
Speaker 2: so then you could have a different definition. I'm not
Speaker 2: a h excrude or not contromed, but I just just
Speaker 2: have a salt. You know how we define things.
Speaker 1: So there is Miguel al kubi Ares warp drive metric
Speaker 1: consistent with your understanding. I mean, if what you're saying
Speaker 1: is true and we can manipulate magnetic forces like this,
Speaker 1: I don't see a reason why we couldn't have infinite
Speaker 1: acceleration to a point where we would see relativistic faster
Speaker 1: than light travel. What do you think.
Speaker 2: I believe there is no speed limit at the speed
Speaker 2: of a light. Just speed a light in the cosmic
Speaker 2: scale is a very very limited finite number. You know.
Speaker 2: The reason is the Albert Einstein postly it's called the
Speaker 2: speed of universe, right, based on the light in his
Speaker 2: conceptual light is the capital. You know, is a particle concept.
Speaker 2: If a car concept in particle traveling, the fastest way
Speaker 2: is absent of any resistance. So then assuming vacuumly is
Speaker 2: completely absent of any any medium, anything's right. So then
Speaker 2: you could say, hey, if complete today vacuum any resistance
Speaker 2: and materials in it, that we should have a maximum velocity.
Speaker 2: So that's that attraction to make make believe there's a
Speaker 2: limit of speed, the limit of universe. But in one case,
Speaker 2: we believe that the speed of a light that is
Speaker 2: just they called the characteristic velocity of the medium.
Speaker 1: Right index, Yes, yes, yes, you can modify the refractive
Speaker 1: index then, right.
Speaker 2: If you can change it, you can change the density,
Speaker 2: you can change the strength. So that's why light speed
Speaker 2: of a light is different even in the air, different
Speaker 2: than in the water, in in vacuum, or in diamond
Speaker 2: in glass, right exactly.
Speaker 1: So you do believe then that speed of light is variable.
Speaker 2: I do be speed light is not the ultimate the
Speaker 2: speed of universe. No, we definitely can faster than speed
Speaker 2: of light.
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard this term dynamic nuclear orientation?
Speaker 2: If you can't define them, I'm not.
Speaker 1: Basically has to do with manipulating the spin and orbit
Speaker 1: the spin of electrons so to line them up. So
Speaker 1: like imagine that a permanent magnet is just a bunch
Speaker 1: of electrons that are perfectly lined up, kind of like
Speaker 1: we were talking about before, and that if you can
Speaker 1: manipulate the each spin of each electron, like at that
Speaker 1: atomic level, If you could do that, the idea is
Speaker 1: that you could create a repulsive gravity like that just
Speaker 1: by changing those around, you could cause your thing to
Speaker 1: just lift off or move around in any direction. And
Speaker 1: and to me, the reason why bring it up is
Speaker 1: it sounds like your theory it's like, okay, well everything
Speaker 1: is just a dipole magnet.
Speaker 2: Then you're right, you turn turn T off, you can repair, right.
Speaker 1: And then you would use magnetism for that is so
Speaker 1: that theory that sounds like it could make sense to you.
Speaker 2: I mean it sounds like you have Yeah, that's not
Speaker 2: the violate anything. I want to make sure before and
Speaker 2: I want to as a win thing about it. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know the the connection with electron. We're talking about
Speaker 2: the electrial monetarging prodict does not exist. Right, I will
Speaker 2: replace that term because that you are you are means
Speaker 2: universal fundamental particle means business magnetic particle. Right. Yeah. And
Speaker 2: you know sometimes my my partner, that's David Garowski, he
Speaker 2: said that sometimes I said, hey, electron does not exist.
Speaker 2: He said, why in the later on you you're talking
Speaker 2: about using electron term. I said, I changed the definition.
Speaker 2: I said that. Initially I said electron does not exist
Speaker 2: based on the quantum theory nective charge particle. I said,
Speaker 2: later on, I use the electron means oh, it's just
Speaker 2: a magnet. He thinks I'm confusing. So I want to
Speaker 2: make sure I'm gonna instead of a say electron, I'm
Speaker 2: going to just you are you? It means a magnet.
Speaker 2: And another thing I want to emphasize is significance. If
Speaker 2: the electron does another exist a protoon does not? Only
Speaker 2: you are magnets. What does that mean? That means current
Speaker 2: atomic model that's called a propussion motion model would not
Speaker 2: be true. What that means? That means entire quantum mechanics
Speaker 2: builded on top of this nucleus with election clouds or
Speaker 2: electron orbitals should not be should not be there. There's
Speaker 2: no free rotating electron in the clouds or whatever whatsoever,
Speaker 2: so that entire model will be out. That means, I
Speaker 2: hate to say them, some certain my colleagues that the
Speaker 2: teaching quantum mechanics for almost half of the life. They
Speaker 2: will say, are you telling me I'm a light my
Speaker 2: sting to the whole career. It's a difficult subject.
Speaker 1: Well, you're not. You're arguing conceptually though right from an experience.
Speaker 1: You're not arguing that the experiments that we've seen around
Speaker 1: quantum mechanics are flawing. You're saying that we have to
Speaker 1: look at it through a different lens.
Speaker 2: It's not this lens of different things. A couple of
Speaker 2: cass Yeah.
Speaker 1: Different interpretation of it and that, and I don't think
Speaker 1: there's anything wrong with that. I mean, to me, that's
Speaker 1: what science is all about. It's about building on previous theories.
Speaker 1: I mean science has pretty much always been wrong and
Speaker 1: then improved over history. So I actually look up to
Speaker 1: the fact that you are bold enough to say stuff
Speaker 1: like that, like, hey, look, I'm saying quantum mechanics is wrong.
Speaker 1: You know, like in generally in academia, people are too
Speaker 1: afraid to do that because we've got this gate keep
Speaker 1: kept peer review process. And if you don't, if you
Speaker 1: go against the grain, then you are get shunned by
Speaker 1: your your colleagues. So thank you for being brave enough
Speaker 1: to say that. There's a few more there's a few
Speaker 1: more last questions on it there, I think are pretty
Speaker 1: quick is what about phase conjugation? So there was this,
Speaker 1: uh I think he was a lieutenant Colonel Tom Bearden
Speaker 1: back in like the eighties, was talking about this idea
Speaker 1: of phase conjugation, which you take your waves and they
Speaker 1: perfectly overlap. You can either create amplification so interfering patterns,
Speaker 1: so either an amplification effect or a cancelation effect. Right, destructive, destructive?
Speaker 1: Now imagine that I did a destructive event. So I
Speaker 1: like to use this rubber band analogy. So let's say
Speaker 1: I take my waves and I have them cancel each
Speaker 1: other out perfectly, so they're perfectly in phase or out
Speaker 1: of phase one hundred and eighty degrees out of phase
Speaker 1: one another, and I say, okay, I'm gonna use one
Speaker 1: let's say one unit of amplify or amplitude on each
Speaker 1: and then I increase it to two units each. I
Speaker 1: would say, okay. Standard physics would say, both sides are
Speaker 1: equalizing out. So there's no net force in any direction here.
Speaker 1: If I increase it to three times, there's still no
Speaker 1: net force in either direction. If I keep pulling on,
Speaker 1: it's gonna rip, it's gonna snap.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So the question here is I'm pulling on both sides.
Speaker 1: Standard physics says there's no net force, no net Yeah,
Speaker 1: but why is the rubber banding about to break?
Speaker 2: Then, you know, would stand out of phasically saying no
Speaker 2: net force. A references to the center of the mass.
Speaker 2: You are talking about it now, you are talking about it.
Speaker 2: That's the defamation part, the internal forces, you know. Now
Speaker 2: we come to now the talking about it in the
Speaker 2: trade I read it a body. You know that, right,
Speaker 2: So now we're talking about the trade. The materials, as
Speaker 2: an Elaska material have a defamation, have a local point
Speaker 2: that different the stress string. So that's why even though balanced, however,
Speaker 2: the internal if you cut it, if you look at
Speaker 2: the cross sectional stress inside the rubber band, it's an increase.
Speaker 1: Let me put this because I want to put in context. Now,
Speaker 1: imagine that I'm taking two photons, two packets waves of
Speaker 1: light and I'm doing and I'm having them cancel each
Speaker 1: other out. What's happening there? If I have them completely
Speaker 1: out of phase one another, and I have destructive interference occurring?
Speaker 1: What would you say I'm doing physically to reality there?
Speaker 1: What's occurring is is there nothing happening.
Speaker 2: If two full time? We're talking about that too too,
Speaker 2: like a wave. If like a wave you're talking about
Speaker 2: they say destructive coherence. So that means when they meet
Speaker 2: meeting and then you do not see any any wave
Speaker 2: motion right peak and valleys, they are canceleding each other,
Speaker 2: just like a steel what perfect colm whether in the
Speaker 2: located surface of the pond, right, perfect steel? Yeah? That
Speaker 2: that that's that's the one. It's very rare happened, right. However, yeah,
Speaker 2: if they are constructive constructive, so now you have double
Speaker 2: you see double amplitude, right, and you will see this
Speaker 2: call a wave in interference pattern.
Speaker 1: Constructing possible because if that's just two waves of light,
Speaker 1: then I imagine what I just described there is if
Speaker 1: it's going to be constructive, would see a bright amplification
Speaker 1: of light destructive? I imagine it would just disappear. Does
Speaker 1: that make any sense?
Speaker 2: Actually, actually you just mentioned about it. That's one mystery.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: In the abasilid experiment, we see light, light across there, right,
Speaker 2: light that goes through we see in the ferum patter
Speaker 2: this said, what what happens if we were all observe
Speaker 2: the light from the other side, when we all observed this,
Speaker 2: suddenly this said that the pattern disappeared. Remember that that
Speaker 2: that episode? Remember that one, right? You know how they
Speaker 2: observe light, they shining another light opposud the direction. You
Speaker 2: know what happens in the interaction of the cancel each
Speaker 2: time either is a great the original interference pattern. I'm
Speaker 2: sorry I I probably distracted you, but you reminded me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that that's another mystery. When they say that we all
Speaker 2: observe it. We measured this suddenly way it becomes a
Speaker 2: part of what is it? Yeah, we would disappeared right because.
Speaker 1: The article, I guess what I was getting at was
Speaker 1: trying to figure out if there might be a connection
Speaker 1: between these electromagnetic waves we tall light and potentially some
Speaker 1: and the disturbance causing some sort of gravitational effect or
Speaker 1: some sort of second order effect where And that's kind
Speaker 1: of what I was getting at, because like I'm pointing
Speaker 1: out with the robber bands, like okay, you have the
Speaker 1: the waves cancel each other out, but it's not really
Speaker 1: that there's nothing there. There's still this disturbance in the
Speaker 1: medium stress and if that material is under stress, then
Speaker 1: maybe that stresses gravity or some other you know, second
Speaker 1: order effect that might be occurring there. And I just
Speaker 1: thought that kind of pieced together what we were talking
Speaker 1: about with respect to magnetism and then this you know
Speaker 1: medium that might be out there. Do you think have
Speaker 1: you ever heard of one electron theory? How many electrons?
Speaker 1: Do you think?
Speaker 2: Oh? I believe maybe ten years ago or maybe certain
Speaker 2: years ago, I watched a move when when field is
Speaker 2: that a European is someone lead physicism presented that.
Speaker 1: If there is this energy out there, whatever this you
Speaker 1: know that we're talking about here, that this idea of
Speaker 1: why does there have to be more than just one
Speaker 1: like maybe all of space and time is kind of
Speaker 1: an illusion, and then there's just it's really just one
Speaker 1: electron and it's everywhere. At the same time, I just
Speaker 1: wanted to get your opinions on that type of idea
Speaker 1: and the framework of you on theory.
Speaker 2: I saw that, you know, the particle based on our
Speaker 2: daily daily experience, right, the particle is just like a
Speaker 2: one piece of materials, And when electron to explain an
Speaker 2: entire universe electro phenomena, it's a little bit a stretch
Speaker 2: for me.
Speaker 1: Got it?
Speaker 2: What do you say?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the idea, but I guess to me
Speaker 1: it depends on For me, it would have to be
Speaker 1: that space and time is an illusion. But I guess
Speaker 1: I already believe that.
Speaker 2: So Okay, if.
Speaker 1: You take a very hard line approach to general relativity
Speaker 1: and you say that we're all in our own little
Speaker 1: reference frame all the time, like all in our own
Speaker 1: little bubble, then how big or small does that bubble
Speaker 1: have to be? It could theoretically be infinitely small, So
Speaker 1: maybe everything really is the same, and it's all been
Speaker 1: broken out of some equilibrium. We all come from one
Speaker 1: tiny little point or something like that. So I kind
Speaker 1: of like that idea. But the last thought I had
Speaker 1: on you is is another one that it starts to
Speaker 1: get in the more esoteric or the fringe aspects of physics,
Speaker 1: which is, what do you think about the holographic principle
Speaker 1: or what do you think about you know, the nature
Speaker 1: of our reality in general and time?
Speaker 2: Oh okay, at at least in the area i'm a study,
Speaker 2: I do not feels that there's a true need for
Speaker 2: that theory. So basically, use uan theory. Magnetum can explain everything,
Speaker 2: all the mysteries that we have, at least I can collect.
Speaker 2: I also, you can't expect, so I do not feel
Speaker 2: the needs for that one. So if there's no needs
Speaker 2: for that one, so I would leave it as a
Speaker 2: other physis has led them to imagine. All right, I
Speaker 2: just leave it out for now.
Speaker 1: Well, uh, doctor, you thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 1: I'll go ahead and give you a moment to just
Speaker 1: shout out any of the projects or anything that you're
Speaker 1: working on, or any other colleagues that you want. But
Speaker 1: thank you very much for joining me.
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