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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to another episode of Hard Shrew's podcast.

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This is your host Ashton Forbes, and today I have

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a very special guest, Doctor You from NASA. Doctor U

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has a unification theory called you On Theory, which believes

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that at the smallest level, everything is a magnetic particle,

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and that this theory can explain dark energy, dark matter,

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and all the fundamental forces. Welcome right now with me

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on the on the show is doctor You. Thank you,

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doctor you for being here. How are you doing today?

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Speaker 2: Thank you Ashton for having me. I'm doing great. I'm

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so excited. I have a conversation with you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So right off the bat, did I get you

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on theory correct? How do you explain you on theory

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to people?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, it is a unified physical theory. Try to

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explain all the phenomenal phenomenal physical phenomenons and the misteres

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in physics with a wooden particle, wind force, Winfield principle

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and also one universe.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's start right off the bat with light. Now.

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I've watched some of your previous podcasts and I love

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your explanation of what light is and how we should

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think about light. So right off the bat. Tell me

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why is light not a particle? Why is light a wave?

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Or is light a wave? Is light actually a particle

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and a wave at the same time.

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Speaker 2: This is the mystery of the light, you know, because

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we're accessing to two different theory. When you say that

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light is a wave, well another one's light is a particle. Eventually,

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when it's a certain one, say hey, live, is it

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called wave a co wave and the particle? You know,

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my quek answer is after I studied that, that's a

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my Creek answer. Light that is one hundred percent of wave.

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It's not a particle. But if you want me to

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subtimate it's more. Experts say light has a light, a source,

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and the light propagation. So if we say lie the source,

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it is a cause of the biparticle is like a

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draw a pabble in the pond right create the motion.

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So the lie the source is a particle. However, whence

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the motion started the motion propagates is a through a

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medium through a medium, so then that becomes a wave

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up wave of phenomena for light propagates. I know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the example that you gave, I think in the

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podcast I was watching, which I really liked just to

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visualize was that you said, you know, if you imagine

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a light in the middle of a room and we're

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all looking at that light, in order for light to

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be a particle, it would mean that the whole room

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would have to be completely filled with particles, and that

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theoretically light could be infinitely small, so it would have

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to be an infinite number of particles, which wouldn't make

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sense at all. Is that the strongest that you think

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for why light would have to be a wave? And

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if so, then how do you explain the photoelectric effect

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and this idea of this packet of photons?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Uh, the photo electric effect? That the short answer is,

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I do not believe current explanation of photo electric electrical

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effect is correct. So I'm gonna divide it by two things.

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Number one, photo electro assuming electricity photo electric u E.

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Fact that assuming electricly is the motion of an electron.

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So so that's why they hey, we come out of

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And also as assumption is light is a pack of

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h wave particle a pack of particle, right, so now

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becomes a particle and a particle interaction. So that's the

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current understanding. But I started I found no, it's totally different.

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The first thing is electricity is now the flow of

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the particles. Whenever we generate the photo electric in fact,

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is when your life coming in, we have an electricity

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come out. Right, So we're assuming based on the connection theory,

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we're assuming you create the motion of electron and the

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electric traveling through the through the the substrate. So that's

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our created electricity. I found actually electricity does not created

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by any particle. Called the translated motion is actually it's

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a vibration motion. It's a way of propagate. So so

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on the solar panel, let's say I'm the solar panel,

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life coming in. All the particles on solar panel sub

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subject to light the excitation, right, they only created oscillation

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or called the vibration oscillation disturbance in local area. However,

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the atoms on the surfa of this of the solar panel,

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they are elastic connected. So that's why you create a medium.

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Vibrating medium propagates outside. So the so that the.

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Speaker 1: Light, which is the photon that's hitting is this electromagnetic

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wave potentially just a magnetic wave that's hitting this medium

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of particles that's there, and then that's what's producing what

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we're seeing in the photoelectric effect as this this disturbance

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in the medium.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so now you just answered my second second question.

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So we are assuming lighter. Is the wave means that

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light does not come out of the whole things some impact.

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create the oscillation of an electromagnetic field. When you're shining

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the light. What happens is on the surface of that

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you create oscillating oscolating a magnetic field. And then that's

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the number one thing. So light that is not the particle.

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We think about this a wave. Of course, the wave

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we have a wavefront, right, we have a wavefront, wave

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vibration and the vibration wave you have a wavefront go

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through it create the oscillation of a magnetic wave. However,

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what the effect when's a magnetic wave goes through let's

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say solar panel equivalent to photo elastic material, right, solar panel.

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So what happens when you will have oscillation in electromagnetic

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wave you create all the particles on the surface of

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the material solar panel, our magnetic particle. So is what

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happens in the word oscillating, where is the wave frequency oscillating?

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Where's a wave? So that means light is induced light

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the wave induced the oscillation of the particle on the

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surface of solar panel. And then this this is this

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oscillation in local area create what is a create a

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wave motion along the surface out of that solar panel.

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So that's the probagates. So if you keep going, yeah,

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if you pay someth this one you too, Now to

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say how much a pack of energy to knock electron

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out in order to make the emotion? Right, we don't

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needed to not the knock the electron out because the

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electricity does not require translatele motion, just alsolving. That's it.

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Speaker 1: So why because then Einstein would say, right that the

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size of the are we can interact by changing I

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think the frequency, Right, we change the size of the spoon.

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Is the analogy that they use in terms of like

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what we're how we're interacting. So what would be your

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explanation there for like that we can change the size

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of the spoon by changing the frequency. How does that

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we're like changing the excitation by doing that, like we're

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making the excitation more impactful or go ahead.

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Speaker 2: That's where resonance. You need a he that the resonance

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of frequency, right, you just frequency? Now that every every

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frequency is the resident of frequency. Only in the resid

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the frequent you use, the smallest energy can propagate. You

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like the word resonance? Do I love? The right?

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Speaker 1: I mean? And I can already tell, like you know,

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this is pre recorded, but I already know the people

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in the chat are all yelling tesla, tesla, tesla right

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now and things like that, because yes, resonance I think

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is something that I love your opinion on this, but

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it seems like it's discounted in physics. And yet like

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I use it every day when I turn my radio on,

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you know, and tune to the right station, and then

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all of a sudden the music.

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Speaker 2: That's a problem with the theoretical physicist. They are starting point.

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They cannot think without the formula. Somebody gave them a

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formula in front of them. That's the problem. They cannot

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you know. So that's why if you do not have

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a day working in real job, you're dealing with true universe. Right,

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How can you read truly understand how electricity works and

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Speaker 1: No, absolutely, the resonance thing. Now, it's also making me

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think of you. You know, you were debating or talking

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with Terrence Howard. You're a great discussion with Terrence Howard,

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and it makes me think of Walter Russell and that

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periodic table with the resonance on it. Do you think

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there's some merit to that viewpoint of looking at atoms

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like in terms of resonance like that? Then if everything

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know, resonance is you know, every every

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structure you know has its own natural resonance, right, no

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problem with that one, right. And then every multiple of

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frequency we call it icon valuable. You know, you know,

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we have an icon valuable and in multiple interns and

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multiplication of the same value, the fundamental frequency any if

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your times any interger value, there's still count as is

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it still called the natural frequency. But just now the

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fundamental natural frequency, it's a still natural frequency. So so

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that means that Terrence said, hey, I have this one

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oscollation added natural frequency. Right, if I tumbles or triples it, right,

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it is still counted as a same family of eigenvalue family.

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call the aigenvector. Right, it's the same family. I hope

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that makes it sense, makes sense to me. So it's

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not a violator anything, but but that's not everything. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think you put it beautifully because I'm I've looked

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at that period table and it makes conceptual sense, like

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the way you described it, if everything is a wave,

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but I just don't know enough to look at it

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to tell, like, Okay, is silicon the fourth octave.

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Speaker 2: Of yeah, he said, another octave another other of the

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it's still a natural frequency. That means that you you

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Speaker 1: However, a coherent matter wave beam, yes, yes, yes, And

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so that would be using that concept, right, which would

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say that, okay, rubidium has this certain wavelength and you

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can theoretically, like I think they use these cavities to

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Speaker 2: To the point where they exciting them.

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Speaker 1: Become coherent and because osons. Yeah, and he takes on

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that because that seems like like I watched the patent

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holder talk about it a couple of weeks ago, and

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he said that it could be a million times more

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powerful than a laser, and I.

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Speaker 2: Just thought, that's that's what the principle of a resonance

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they do give you theoretically as the infinite amplitude. So

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he's hey, millions of times, it's a less than infinite right,

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very small I thought that they we'll have a like

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an army marching over bridge, right, armed army marching over

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certain frequency, it's another that it's about. It's never about

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how many people there. It's just if you use the

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Speaker 1: You can't break it down one parametric resonance or parametric

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oscillations of electrical circuits. Yeah, and that's also I think

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what Salvator pais So I've spoken to him. He's a

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US Navy engineer. He so he talks about that a lot,

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about tenderizing, like when he talks about manipulating space time.

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He talks about it like that with resonance. Yes, and

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you can use also the analogy of like the opera

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singer hitting the note for the work.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, showers wine glass, right, yes, if you hear that,

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Speaker 2: That, the natural frequency of of of the glass, and

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of course you have to last a longer time, right,

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you cannot just hit the windows. Then you jump over

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I say, you were to see stratten. So that's that's

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the power of frequency. Just like you mentioned someone said

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we're shooting photons through two slits. We would expect there

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to be like two slits on the detectors on the

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backside that matches our two slits. But when we look

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instead we get this wave pattern and so we say, okay, well,

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how is that possible? Which slit did the photon go through?

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we're gonna look and see which which when it went through.

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and instead we just get our two slits. This is

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the number one mystery in all of physics is that

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whoever can solve this probably figures out all physics. So

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do you go ahead and solve it for us?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you give me the easiest questions about the

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double slated right now? Okay, so you shooting uh photons?

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audience watching in your previous video, it will be knows.

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attack of a particle. I mean it's a Fullton's actually

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just the uh a wave propagation. So at a different

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location you see a pack that's a different uh, different

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particles of the medium particles library at that time. So

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it's another like a wind particle go through the photoon. Okay,

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so this is the one thing. So when you go

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through the go through this uh, go through this double slit.

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wind photons we so called the window. Actually you just

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created win excitation when you created windows. The photon transmitted

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or propagated is through the medium. So you see the

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photon just like somebody's swimming over there, right, it's actually

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the wave of motion goes through it. So when the

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wave will reach to the two slid and so basically

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the shooting photon is the equivalent to create the oscillation

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of the wave. So now the wave that's the medium wave, right,

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medium wave goes through the slit in the were Now

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that goes through a single one the wave work goes

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through to outslids simultaneously. So now you have a have

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some a wave motion in phase right in face and

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everything's uh in qubein angle everything. So now you create

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the double slid. There's a coherent that wave.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so if everything, so I get the part where

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the wave part but I guess I just still understand

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the part where it breaks down and why it breaks down.

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Speaker 2: The breakdown the breaks down when you're shooting electrons mhm,

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electrons particles right, They said that, hey, we know electrons

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particles right. If this is if a theoretical physicist anything, right,

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it has to have a particles, right, So okay, so

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electrons particle. They said that if we're shooting electron one

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go through this one or go that one. We know

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we can count. And they find that you're shooting one

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at a time and still find the screen shooting the

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slight interference pattern. That's a where that's where I believe

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people's question come up. So how can you shooting electron

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and we know we monitor the electron, we monitor electron

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go through one seat one slip or go through the

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other slid. Right, we monitor one at a time and

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still shoot that one. You know, the key lies in

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I know one of your favorite. The thing is we

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got either back? Is that right? You said either? You said,

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you know, we know the space. In order for light

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proba gates, we need a carrier that's a wave. So

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so this wave is made by what electromagnetic matters. So

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that's why electromagnetic wave. So now you think about the electron.

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I know you understand. My electron is just this little

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magnetic particles. You think about it, a moving magnetic particles

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inside the magnetic medium. What happens to the medium, the

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medium will create a wave. So now when you go

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through the two slits, your electron goes through it, but

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the wave, the carrier wave, also goes through them. The

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wave started started the ways of the interference pattern. And

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you know how small electron is, right? You know is

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you know is elements supposed to be elementary just tiny.

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the wave is still in the various right, just so

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I can lie the wave. So now your electron very

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small being carried by that wave. So that's why I

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end up shooting the same wave pattern. I don't know,

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I don't know. If you film fields, you know, remember

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when thing is electron is a magnet, which means electron.

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more So so this is a magnet, the field, the

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interact the ways, the medium, the electro mag the medium field.

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What happens migration wave.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're saying that it's actually I think I

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get it. Is that so the electron is a little uh,

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assuming the electron is a particle and it's also a magnet,

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and so we have this medium, there must be some medium,

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which we're gonna that's the next topic I want to

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talk about. Then there would be a wave disturbance from

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the electron moving through the medium.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, from the electronity magnetic field.

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Speaker 1: So then you could have a situation where the electron

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can create a particle type effect and also one where

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it can also a wave type effect at the same time.

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is I think the answer must be that there is

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this extra dimension, this extra medium of kind of energy

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or what have you out there, and physics understands that

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to be real. So that's why I like that that answer.

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And so then my next question is, well, where is

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energy coming from? Where is electricity coming from? In your view,

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If you're telling me that we are in this medium

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of particles of energy all around us and that light

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is an excitation of that, so then wouldn't that mean

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that the electricity and energy is locally coming from wherever

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that excitation is curring. Or go ahead and explain to

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me what your what your concept of electricity is.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I do believe if you know the energy level

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close to you know, because the light that is light,

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that is electromagnetic oscillation right wave propagation, and because we

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have a light transmitted that's through there's a medium wave

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electro matic So you know, if we can't see the light,

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we know the whole medium is in the background is vibrating.

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It's carry we do just like a fish. Fish do

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not a sea water, right, the water vibrating. However, we

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do see you know, yeah, we see we can't see fishy,

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but the fish it does not sea water. This is

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the same thing when we see light, just like we

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saw fish. But we know the fishure has to go

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through the medium. Right, So that's why that means the

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medium it comes under vibrating. The reason is if you

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can't carry light, light is vibrating of course the medium.

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So what is it? Yeah? Uh, what is a cosmic

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microwave background? You know? Yeah? Of course the medium. You

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have a light, you have a thermonuclear explosions on the stars.

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These are created huge explosions of huge waves, huge the disturbance.

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Of course, everything is vibrating. You were energy, were any

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were your sea light?

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Speaker 1: So where's that energy coming from? Then? So I mean

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you're saying that, so are you talking about zero point energy?

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I mean to me, it sounds like you're saying there's

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an ether like and this.

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Speaker 2: Is what tesla is. Yes, you think with light, won't

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you won't be able to see light?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Because everything requires all waves require medium, right, I

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mean it seems pretty obvious to me. Why do you

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think physicists have discounted that? I mean, what is the

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counter argument to that? Space is not empty? Really, that's

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the end of the day.

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Speaker 2: You're saying, probably, right, Probably it is the same as

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scientific discussion and somehow being side attracted by political issue

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maybe you know, social issue or political issue and some

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somehow a certain point of view has to be shut

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or shut down silence. Maybe I don't know, but I

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notice a lot of a lot of contemporaries as albut

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eye insense contemporaries. They believe a light wave wave, we

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need a medium and they should have some kind of

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transmission medium there and then right now, I try to

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avoid the world called the ether. It has an active connotation,

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So I would say, hey, just simple simple called black

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is black? Say it's just a magnetical also just a

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magnetic uh medium? You know, light as a magnetic electromagnetic

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wave right of course carried by electromagnetical medium. You you

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may see, you may you may notice I always struggling

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with the word electromagneta or magneta or something because in

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my mind only wouldn't type of wave magnetic wave?

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Speaker 1: So are you talking about the zero point energy?

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Speaker 2: Zero point? Can you? Can you define zero point energy

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to me? I think I know what you mean, But

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can you explain to audience? So what if this if.

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Speaker 1: This is a if I'm in a box here or

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I don't know where the why the width of this

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box is, but the screen is this box? If I

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were to take all of the photons and heat, all

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of what we would think of the non vibrational energy

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out of this box. Then we would say there's no

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there's no energy left in there. Conventionally we would say that.

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But if we were to do stuff like to take

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the Casmir effect in that empty box, and we were

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to put two plates together, we would see them come together,

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and you would say, how is that possible? You took

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all the energy out of the box, but we're still

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seeing plates come together are on their own, So there

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must be some energy there. And you know, from what

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you described to me sounds like to me that's the

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answer to what you're saying, is that where's that light

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coming from. Well, it's not coming from the thermal energy.

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It's not coming from any other energy in this box

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other than the vibrations, the zero point energy.

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Speaker 2: That's the medium id. But that's that's to say, Hey,

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all the all observable particles, everything, we can feel something

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to take it out. We know the universe. The space

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is not empathy, right, not the vacuum. The feel is

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the electromagnetic medium, and that's the vibration that medium that's

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transmitted the light and the created temperature so you you

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might know, right that the code is of the temperature

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in basic observation, right still like a street Kevin or something, yeah,

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something around that one. It's never be a zero, right yeah.

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Speaker 1: But they you know. And then the whole idea too

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is that like they cool down, they create these artificial environments,

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so they cool thing is the region down to like

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absolute zero. And then we also have like superfluidity, you know,

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like heal, yes three will still act like a superfluid,

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doesn't freeze, so there must be some energy there just

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even using conventional physics to explain that. And then the

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big argument is, you know, the vacuum catastrophe. So where

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do you land on the vacuum catastrophe? Do you you know,

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what do you think the true energy the latent energy

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of the universes? Do you think it's just what we

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see with respect to heat or do you think it's

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the answer of when you know, Fineman and Wheeler took

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quantum mechanics and they added up all the modes all

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that europeant and they said, oh, it's one hundred and

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twenty orders of magnitude or something like that. I mean,

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it's like the difference is huge like, so who's right.

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Speaker 2: I just give you into even simple answer saying, hey,

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in those space of fiel the ways that this call

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the magnetic of fluids, right, Okay, so where the I

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need to come from? Because we do have a star galaxies.

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You see those bright lights or something where they come

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around that is from a new thermonuclear explosions. So what

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that do? They create a huge moving time barying magnet

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the field. Right, so you know even though we cannot

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see the stuff, we know the stuff is in motion

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have energy. That's why we can see light, you know, right,

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the light is the vibrations through that one. So we

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know that's the background of the wave. Is never never

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truly be stationary still because if a light goes through it,

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you know, you know the light the traveling throughout the

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street dimension of space, so you know it will will

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create the oscillations.

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Speaker 1: Well, so let me ask this because when you say

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that and you say okay, you know any movement through

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space is going to be creating these excitations. Yes, I

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start to wonder, shouldn't like free and energy be possible

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free energy and the cut in the sense that like

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we have unlimited energy to tap into because if what

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you're saying is true, then stars and the light and

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the and the energy coming off stars are just a

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byproduct of this interaction happening in the medium. The should

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be able to recreate that even producer at a smaller scale.

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And I go, well, that seems like that's just unlimited

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access to energy. If we can figure that out, what

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do you think.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think that's true. So basically, WinCE Away, understand

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that based on the un theory, everything's started with fundamental

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00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,279
with magnetic particles of magnetic medium and magnetica albents. Right,

475
00:28:38,599 --> 00:28:43,400
so everything all the universe beility that buy the single

476
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,240
force magnetic field and field of force. So I think,

477
00:28:46,279 --> 00:28:50,759
of course, so I believe anything natural can happen, we

478
00:28:51,039 --> 00:28:56,559
can repeat by human being use this fundamental principle. And

479
00:28:57,599 --> 00:28:59,839
remember you said you said that when things is better,

480
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,839
use a resonant the frequency. We do not need a

481
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:08,839
huge energy. We can create the almost infinite magnitude. I believe.

482
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:13,279
So that's why I do believe what is called a

483
00:29:13,359 --> 00:29:17,799
low energy nuclear reaction or something. Uh. And if you're

484
00:29:17,799 --> 00:29:22,720
talking about a zero point energy, it's all about the medium, right,

485
00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:25,799
the medium. If you can excite it, a medium at

486
00:29:25,799 --> 00:29:30,960
a certain resonant frequency, which excitation doesn't not that require

487
00:29:31,039 --> 00:29:35,160
lots of force. You're just a constantly, constantly small excitation.

488
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,440
It just always a period of time, right, accumulation of

489
00:29:38,519 --> 00:29:42,640
time can create a huge energy. That that's why I

490
00:29:42,759 --> 00:29:46,160
do believe we can create like a best top of

491
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,920
the type of a nuclear I'm not using nuclear fusion.

492
00:29:50,039 --> 00:29:53,079
I have a different definition of future. So a nuclear

493
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:58,720
reaction device create create unlimited similite.

494
00:29:59,119 --> 00:30:02,599
Speaker 1: You go ahead, I mean a star. The we're just

495
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,200
trying to recreate star with fusion. And the secrets to

496
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,920
the star is gravity. You know, it's not temperature. It's

497
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,119
gravity as the secret. And then gravity produces the pressure

498
00:30:10,119 --> 00:30:12,200
and the temperature. And we've been trying to use We've

499
00:30:12,279 --> 00:30:14,240
just been discounting gravity this whole time. No wonder we've

500
00:30:14,279 --> 00:30:16,599
never figured out fusion for seventy years. And then you

501
00:30:16,759 --> 00:30:18,720
come in with you on theory, and this was actually

502
00:30:18,759 --> 00:30:20,319
on my list of questions to ask you, and I go,

503
00:30:20,759 --> 00:30:23,359
if everything's just a magnet, and you know, I sat

504
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,559
and listen to you to talk about how okay, well

505
00:30:25,759 --> 00:30:28,200
it's going to repel because they're both like charges. But

506
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,079
if they get too close, it's just a sphere, so

507
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,799
it's going to rotate around and then it's going to

508
00:30:31,839 --> 00:30:35,880
connect back together. If you have control over that over

509
00:30:36,119 --> 00:30:40,319
all four forces, the fundamental forces, you can cause fusion

510
00:30:40,359 --> 00:30:42,759
to happen at will. And if you can cause fusion

511
00:30:42,799 --> 00:30:45,599
to happen at will, that's access to unlimited energy in

512
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,680
my opinion, just from basic chemistry. Right. So I thought

513
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,519
about that and I wanted to get your opinion then,

514
00:30:51,559 --> 00:30:54,160
because if that's the case, we don't need hot fusion anymore.

515
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,240
Like you said, we should be able to produce low

516
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:01,680
energy reactions by manipulating the forces that you know, atomic level,

517
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,559
at the base level. And that kind of scares me

518
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,279
because I think, like, do you think they've already figured

519
00:31:07,319 --> 00:31:09,039
this out or do you think you're the first one?

520
00:31:09,279 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: No? No, no, you know you know, not only not

521
00:31:13,839 --> 00:31:17,559
only in the United States. I believe even in the

522
00:31:17,759 --> 00:31:20,640
rivals to be unitised to the other countries system, they

523
00:31:20,759 --> 00:31:25,680
still use the ibdive us a false fusion theory nuclear theory.

524
00:31:26,799 --> 00:31:30,160
You know, my my major engineer mechanics, right my advisors

525
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:35,640
a nuclear engineer professor, and he was he eventually becomes

526
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:40,640
the department chair of Nuclear and Engineer Physical department, you know. So,

527
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,480
so I know a lot about the nuclear reactions in

528
00:31:43,559 --> 00:31:44,799
nuclear engineering theories.

529
00:31:46,039 --> 00:31:46,279
Speaker 1: I was.

530
00:31:46,519 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 2: He's an RI student Ta and ra A. Right, So

531
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:56,279
you know the reason of all the money we invested.

532
00:31:56,359 --> 00:31:58,480
What is that every time I heard a tent dy

533
00:31:58,559 --> 00:32:02,559
billion forty billion dollars accumulated over one hundreds billions at

534
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:07,319
least the two hundred billions in worldwide. You know the

535
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,759
end that they use the best and the brightest the

536
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,240
physicist to do the would never say success because they

537
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:20,000
misunderstood the fusion. Actually, I just let you know there

538
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:26,119
are no energy created by combining two things together. That's

539
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,640
called the fuse them together. That's a wrong concept. So however,

540
00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:33,400
we do measure that we not have a nuclear explosion.

541
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,240
We do measure that. Okay, we do have a we

542
00:32:37,359 --> 00:32:39,519
do have a side of product. We don't have a

543
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:45,039
fund heliums. Right, So just started with a fusion is

544
00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:48,880
a hydrogen you know something and eventually phoning forming helium.

545
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,960
So we sat, okay, there must be fuse particle together

546
00:32:53,079 --> 00:32:56,240
create the energy. That's opposite. If let's see if I

547
00:32:56,319 --> 00:32:59,240
can explain to you and if you understand, I want

548
00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:02,960
you to into your audience. So What happens is I

549
00:33:03,039 --> 00:33:05,880
believe we're having no problem with the fish anything. You

550
00:33:06,039 --> 00:33:10,039
split the two, if you do any energy calculation, you doubles,

551
00:33:10,319 --> 00:33:13,880
you increase energy. So it means that whenever you split

552
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,920
the one object to smaller objects, your same same same

553
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,799
force pushing them, you you increase the energy. So the

554
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:27,039
fusion when you buying them increase. That's not whenever you're

555
00:33:27,079 --> 00:33:30,440
buying two things and let them both moving together, you're slower.

556
00:33:30,599 --> 00:33:34,720
Okay you you you're moving slower, So that means energy

557
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:40,039
and reduce. So then where comes the helium healing forms? Right?

558
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,400
I believe the fure called the nuclear hydrogen bomb or

559
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,599
fusion bomb or something is split the atom to a

560
00:33:50,759 --> 00:33:55,640
smaller your nuclear nuclear bomb, just split a nuclear you know,

561
00:33:56,799 --> 00:34:01,640
split what is a molecules you into little atoms or something.

562
00:34:02,039 --> 00:34:05,960
But if you said affusion, you split the atoms to

563
00:34:06,119 --> 00:34:10,320
the sub atomic a smaller What is the subatomic particles?

564
00:34:10,559 --> 00:34:13,360
Based on yours? They all magnet products, just smaller parts.

565
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,199
When you split them, you always increase the energy. So

566
00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:21,239
so what I believe so called the atomic Obama versus

567
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,360
a hydrogen bomba the difference is you split at a

568
00:34:24,559 --> 00:34:30,400
deeper level when all the magnetude deeper make particles sleepit dipper. However,

569
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,519
the what happens when you split a sub atomic particle

570
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:41,400
becomes a all the particles becomes a charge right forever. However,

571
00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:45,119
once they're cooling down, you know what happens the charge

572
00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:48,519
the particle our magnetic particle when it's high energy that

573
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:53,480
I ever were when cooling down, they study neck together

574
00:34:54,079 --> 00:34:58,920
for that's formati. So human is a side product after

575
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,320
deeper level level of fishing.

576
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,039
Speaker 1: That's really interesting in the context of like Stanley Meyer

577
00:35:06,119 --> 00:35:09,079
and his water powered car. Yes, he was arguing that

578
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,719
he found a way to at low energy levels cause

579
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,719
hydrogen and oxygen to come apart, and then he basically

580
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,239
just moved it to a new area and then like

581
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,320
a normal area, and then it would they would come

582
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:22,119
back together.

583
00:35:22,119 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 2: Just come back together. And that they also foam. I

584
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,039
believe they form a helium as a neutral and they.

585
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: Saw transmutation as well.

586
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 2: Yes, and they'd be crashing, right, they be trashing the

587
00:35:33,159 --> 00:35:36,440
entire I thought, actually, you know what the kind of

588
00:35:36,519 --> 00:35:40,159
force and make them make them your use the electricity.

589
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:46,679
You know, electricity is what is also vibration equivalent to excitation. Force.

590
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,239
If you have an electricity hit at the resonance frequency

591
00:35:50,599 --> 00:35:54,480
of whatever you are, you're testing right, you know, eventually

592
00:35:54,639 --> 00:35:58,159
going to break the break atoms apart. I believe that's

593
00:35:58,199 --> 00:36:00,760
the right way to go. I want to energy myself

594
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,440
about it. Why the big money use a high temperature

595
00:36:04,519 --> 00:36:07,599
couldnot create a future energy? You know what happens to

596
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,880
charge the particle. So let's assuming they already high enough

597
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,480
to make it all become charge le The only thing

598
00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:17,920
they can fuse it together is when you're cooling down.

599
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,519
Now the charge particle, they slow down, so they aren't

600
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,039
They no longer hit each other bumping back and forth.

601
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,519
They started study connection write that way, but the current

602
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,400
theory is saying you have have a huge temperature to

603
00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:36,360
fuse them together. You know what happens. They never fills

604
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,400
them together because high energy make it keep constantly, constantly moving.

605
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,760
You never see you do the sea helium will come out.

606
00:36:44,559 --> 00:36:48,599
What happens They increase the temperature another older magnitude and

607
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,559
that problem comes Your container cannot hold that temperature. Right,

608
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,639
you have to use you create a plasma, keep them

609
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,840
away from a wall. This has become a new technology.

610
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,800
Now how you keep the heat right away from the

611
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,079
the wall container wall. That's a totally even come out

612
00:37:07,079 --> 00:37:12,079
of the different material new materials, right, But it's it's

613
00:37:12,159 --> 00:37:14,679
not gonna make a hu fusion world. Man.

614
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: I think we should go into a consulting business. Maybe

615
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,960
we can help solve some of these fusion companies because

616
00:37:19,039 --> 00:37:21,599
like it just it's I had the same exact thought,

617
00:37:21,679 --> 00:37:23,800
and it's just a logical thought. It's like, Okay, you're

618
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,400
increasing the temperature and you're making the molecules bounce around.

619
00:37:29,039 --> 00:37:32,159
I'm not going to solve anything that's just the together, right,

620
00:37:32,639 --> 00:37:35,159
just random chance. We're just gonna hope that they randomly

621
00:37:35,199 --> 00:37:37,239
hit each other and all of the space. It's like

622
00:37:38,199 --> 00:37:40,639
as opposed to using a magnetic approach, which is like

623
00:37:40,679 --> 00:37:43,679
we're just gonna force their paths to come together. Like

624
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,800
that just seems so much more obvious to me. So

625
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,760
I don't want to get too much into the conspiratoral

626
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,559
aspect of it, but I am very skeptical that why

627
00:37:52,639 --> 00:37:55,599
haven't other people figured this kind of out already? In

628
00:37:55,639 --> 00:37:57,880
my personal opinion is they probably have. And then it

629
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,960
makes me question like, Okay, well are we being kind

630
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,440
of like you know, you know, for example, what I

631
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,480
will say, is that when you speak to energy amplification

632
00:38:06,639 --> 00:38:12,320
through vibrational amplification, that's that's dangerous. You know, energy amplification

633
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,400
in general is dangerous, and I would surprise me.

634
00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 2: We have to control it the right exactly.

635
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: So when find it surprised me to find out that yes,

636
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,159
we could do fusion very efficiently using these concepts, but

637
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,639
that it's also very dangerous and that we also don't

638
00:38:26,159 --> 00:38:28,400
want to just give that to everybody out on the planet.

639
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,119
Do you would you agree with that?

640
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 2: Like?

641
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: Where do you stand on the dangers of some of

642
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,000
this science?

643
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 2: Oh? I believe if you use us now the high energy,

644
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:45,119
high temperature, use electromagnetically induce the vibration. Uh, you know,

645
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,840
to us try to create a resonance to a material.

646
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,000
You can split them out. When you split them, you

647
00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:55,239
know what happens, right, That's where people ask a word

648
00:38:55,280 --> 00:39:00,719
a nuclear for nuclear ethogy come from to connect the particles,

649
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,039
the magnetic connect when you split it. You know what

650
00:39:03,159 --> 00:39:06,480
happens when the split it and the bouncing back and

651
00:39:06,519 --> 00:39:09,480
the force. When when's bouncing back and the force, you

652
00:39:09,639 --> 00:39:16,000
have attraction and initiate a repulsion. Now attraction, you're reproaching,

653
00:39:16,079 --> 00:39:19,199
so the back and the force and just had the

654
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:24,519
increase not the just the not just the regular called

655
00:39:24,559 --> 00:39:29,960
the impact. If you have a like time to particle impact,

656
00:39:30,199 --> 00:39:33,400
the higher you impact, the bigger the reporting force. Right,

657
00:39:33,639 --> 00:39:35,480
so the back of the force. So now you'll see,

658
00:39:35,519 --> 00:39:39,639
oh everything's started. Energy increase the heat and energy increase

659
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,480
the mag that's called the magnetic reportion. I believe that's

660
00:39:43,639 --> 00:39:48,480
that's where play a huge part of the nuclear and.

661
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,039
Speaker 1: Well, if any spooks are watching, I just want everyone

662
00:39:51,119 --> 00:39:53,199
to know that doctor you from NASA just taught me

663
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:54,840
how to make a fusion bomb. So you know what,

664
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,079
it's not on me. You can blame NASA. They're the

665
00:39:57,119 --> 00:39:59,119
ones who taught me how to do it. I'm just kidding.

666
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,519
Uh but no, that's good. I appreciate that conversation. But

667
00:40:02,639 --> 00:40:05,400
let's move just a little bit away from the possibly

668
00:40:05,519 --> 00:40:09,119
end of the world creating destruction bombs, and let I

669
00:40:09,199 --> 00:40:12,320
want to ask more questions on you on theory in

670
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,840
terms of how it can explain stuff in cosmology. So

671
00:40:17,559 --> 00:40:21,519
I think I understand your explanation of dark matter. That

672
00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:23,880
one I think is the easiest to explain with you

673
00:40:24,039 --> 00:40:26,920
on theory because I've already been thinking for like fifteen

674
00:40:27,039 --> 00:40:32,559
years that like, can't magnetism just explain this idea that galaxies,

675
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,559
the stars in our galaxies are rotating faster than we

676
00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:37,760
would expect if we just had like a pinwheel.

677
00:40:39,119 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 2: Go ahead, jumping, You said, a fastertain we expect only

678
00:40:43,119 --> 00:40:45,519
when we use the Newtonian concept.

679
00:40:45,639 --> 00:40:50,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if we use electromagnetic concept or magnetic concept,

680
00:40:50,159 --> 00:40:53,119
then the speeds are actually match what we would expect.

681
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,519
Is that you know, we've got this if you just

682
00:40:55,639 --> 00:40:58,280
use like the right hand rule and electrical engineering and

683
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,320
you just look at the rotat the of the galaxies,

684
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,920
then it all makes sense. That part. No problem with

685
00:41:04,199 --> 00:41:06,159
the part I think I need a little bit more explanation.

686
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,000
Maybe not. Is the dark energy side of it? So

687
00:41:09,199 --> 00:41:10,920
dark energy. The way I look at it is like

688
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,559
if I had some paint and a canvas or this table,

689
00:41:14,599 --> 00:41:17,000
and I pour the paint on the table, It's gonna

690
00:41:17,039 --> 00:41:20,880
spread out kind of all over the table evenly. That's

691
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,280
kind of how I imagine like space time spreading or

692
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,000
like the energy spreading out throughout space time to create

693
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,079
you know, our reality. So when you explained it, I

694
00:41:30,119 --> 00:41:31,880
think you did. I love your plasma globe. By the way,

695
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,280
I got to get one of those for my back.

696
00:41:35,039 --> 00:41:36,320
When you put your hand on it. I like the

697
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,960
idea that you're like, oh, why do the tendrils, why

698
00:41:39,039 --> 00:41:40,880
do they all spread out? Like why aren't the tendrils

699
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,400
like coming together? It almost look evenly spread out. So

700
00:41:44,599 --> 00:41:47,400
I guess what you're saying there is that there's attractive

701
00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:51,400
and repulsive forces that happen on these large scales that

702
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,519
would cause them, like the kind of paint to spread

703
00:41:53,519 --> 00:41:56,440
out of the canvas. Or what is your analysis of

704
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,000
why we how dark energy is solved?

705
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 2: I believe it could be your spirit. Uh, spill the

706
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,719
pain the right, spread it over uh, and of course

707
00:42:09,039 --> 00:42:13,119
follow the least resistance fast right when you spread. But

708
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,679
you know for the plasma ball, because you know at

709
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,880
the center of it, that's that's testa coil on the

710
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,000
one side of the tesla coil. You know, testa oil

711
00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:25,480
is highly electromagnet generated electromagnifield. So when we use a

712
00:42:25,559 --> 00:42:28,119
win kip a ball on the top right, so that

713
00:42:28,199 --> 00:42:31,119
means it's all the same the like a pole, it's

714
00:42:31,159 --> 00:42:34,000
all from started with the same light pole. So that's

715
00:42:34,039 --> 00:42:37,719
why you you you're shooting you're shooting. This is called

716
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,920
the filament. The filament that is all started with like

717
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,239
a pole. So that's why repulsion and since everywhere repulsion,

718
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:49,360
So that's why you were to see each each pushing

719
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,960
together eventually almost uniformly in all the directions. Does that

720
00:42:54,039 --> 00:42:56,159
make sense to you? You explain to you.

721
00:42:56,679 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you remind me of a different thing that you

722
00:42:59,079 --> 00:43:02,719
showed where you had like a magnet, right and you

723
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,079
put like three poles in it and they pull, they

724
00:43:05,159 --> 00:43:07,400
spread out from one another. Oh you have it. Yeah,

725
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,000
that was actually the best visual now because.

726
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,599
Speaker 2: Now, oh you think this is a visual better than

727
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,480
sho that one. Yes, you know, I have a strong

728
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:22,000
new themium magnets inside and I put it this one inside.

729
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,000
You know, I like a collector all the physical souvenirs.

730
00:43:26,119 --> 00:43:28,960
But my son told me you shouldn't. You should not

731
00:43:29,039 --> 00:43:30,960
the use of this one as an exemple. He said,

732
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:37,079
people would be definitely distracted, but they need I just

733
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,960
use it as a holder of a magnet. Okay, so

734
00:43:40,119 --> 00:43:43,000
now I have a three. You know, this is just

735
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,960
a stainless steel, you know, some kind of steel. It's

736
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,880
aself of another magnets. But I try to say how

737
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,119
to demonstrate the lack a pole repel. I said, hey,

738
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,360
since I have a magnets all on the bottom side,

739
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,880
there is the wooden side of the magnets. I hope

740
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:04,639
you can see it's right, yep, And then put another one.

741
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they repel.

742
00:44:07,079 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 2: Oh you like this one better.

743
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 1: That That makes a lot of sense to me because

744
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:11,920
then I look at that as like the universe is like,

745
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,119
oh no, wonder they repel because you can see they

746
00:44:14,159 --> 00:44:15,760
repel more and more and more as they get for

747
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,280
like as it kind of expands out.

748
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, so I may use this one more.

749
00:44:21,159 --> 00:44:23,559
Sometimes I use plus my eyes so that hey, that

750
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:28,360
represented the universe. Yeah. So so basically people can understand.

751
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,119
So it's so called the dark energy or we caught

752
00:44:32,159 --> 00:44:35,000
a dark force just pushing something away from each other,

753
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,639
just a magnetic repulsion, right.

754
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 1: You have to Yeah, No, that's that's good.

755
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 2: I like that.

756
00:44:42,559 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: Let me ask, though, then, how do you explain These

757
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,199
are two questions I don't think i've seen you explain.

758
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,880
Maybe you have. How do you explain mass and inertia?

759
00:44:50,199 --> 00:44:53,119
And there's an equivalence principle between the two as well,

760
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:57,960
So how does magnetism alone explain why there's mass at all.

761
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 2: You ask a great question. Actually that's a mystery about

762
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:07,719
the mass, right, I don't if you think about the

763
00:45:08,079 --> 00:45:12,760
origin of a mess right now, under quantum mechanical frame,

764
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:17,000
we solved there was the twenty twelve. But he Higgs

765
00:45:17,079 --> 00:45:20,440
Higgs right, Higgs Boson right, So that's try to solving

766
00:45:21,159 --> 00:45:25,480
where the mass come from based on the quantum mechanics.

767
00:45:25,599 --> 00:45:28,960
Or everything's a single a point particle, So how could

768
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,679
the point particle generate a mess?

769
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: Right?

770
00:45:31,519 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 2: So they use called the interact uses a point particle

771
00:45:36,039 --> 00:45:38,280
interact with a field that they called it called the

772
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:43,039
Haiggs field. Now my question is does the Haiggs field,

773
00:45:43,199 --> 00:45:47,960
How does the Higgs field can interact with a point particle?

774
00:45:48,559 --> 00:45:52,159
How could they interact? Use the word interact because the

775
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,960
Haiggs field, I believe, if my understanding is correct, it's

776
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,960
a neutral field. It's not a magnetic field. Is that right?

777
00:46:00,199 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: I think that Yeah. Generally, I haven't heard enough explanation

778
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,159
of how the Higgs field. My understand is the Higgs

779
00:46:05,159 --> 00:46:08,159
field does not adequately explain where all the masks can

780
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,760
come from. Now here's where I would push back on

781
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,280
you or push back on that and ask you is

782
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,679
that I would say, why doesn't the zero point energy

783
00:46:15,679 --> 00:46:17,719
just explain it? So you know, you get rid of

784
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,280
the Higgs field. Okay, okay, instead of that thermal energy

785
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,239
that we've got out there, Let's take that zero point

786
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,159
in that vibrational energy that you talked about that can

787
00:46:25,199 --> 00:46:25,639
amplify it.

788
00:46:25,679 --> 00:46:29,039
Speaker 2: That's to where the medium. That's exactly that's the I'm

789
00:46:29,199 --> 00:46:32,079
called the medium. The medium could be at a zero

790
00:46:32,199 --> 00:46:35,039
point right or at the point.

791
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 3: Yes, the maximums what's giving you mass're the medium interact?

792
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:45,079
Speaker 2: The medium interact. The modium electron is a magnetic medium, okay,

793
00:46:45,559 --> 00:46:47,400
interest is a particle particle.

794
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,199
Speaker 3: What a particle is, oh particle by magnet magnetic particle,

795
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,880
So that's why they interact. You have a resistance, I

796
00:46:55,039 --> 00:46:57,880
hope I I solving the mystery of a mass, right,

797
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:02,239
That's what it is called. The mass is resistance of motion.

798
00:47:02,559 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: Right. That means it's a force can changeing motion.

799
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,679
Speaker 1: And that's why there's an equivalence principle between inertia and mass,

800
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,239
because when you move around, you're just moving through the

801
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,960
resistance of the magnetic moment. If you want to consider that,

802
00:47:16,119 --> 00:47:18,119
like you know, the same reason why I can't move

803
00:47:18,159 --> 00:47:20,960
my hand through this, like there's repulsion that's occurring there.

804
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,599
And that happens even on the small scales, even if

805
00:47:23,639 --> 00:47:25,760
I was in outer space, because even in outer space

806
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,880
there still is that zero point energy. Even if you

807
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,800
remove all the energy from the space region, you're still

808
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,960
going to have that inertia, You're still going to have

809
00:47:33,079 --> 00:47:35,400
that mass. And this is why I love your theory,

810
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,239
because you can literally just set the idea of zero

811
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,920
point energy right on top of your theory. It makes

812
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:41,599
a perfect sense.

813
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 2: That's the media. You cannot you for price of ways

814
00:47:45,039 --> 00:47:47,599
that a medium you own to see light, You want

815
00:47:47,639 --> 00:47:49,440
to see anything, right, And if.

816
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,159
Speaker 1: It's one more thought is that if anybody or to say,

817
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,719
oh they want to challenge it, which I would love

818
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,599
for people challenges that. Even Leonard Suskaide was asked about

819
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,920
if we remove all this energy, how how can there

820
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,559
be something there still? Well, well, how can there be

821
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,280
something there? And he goes, yes, there's something there and

822
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,599
it's electromagnetic. He says it has charge. And they go,

823
00:48:09,679 --> 00:48:11,519
how can that have charge if there's no mass, if

824
00:48:11,519 --> 00:48:14,320
there's nothing actually there's no energy or act there, and

825
00:48:14,599 --> 00:48:16,119
and that he says, I don't know where it can

826
00:48:16,159 --> 00:48:17,920
come from. Well, you just said it. It's there must

827
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,800
be a medium and that electromagnetic, and it's.

828
00:48:21,679 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 2: The interactive moving particles are magnetic. Two right, they are

829
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:26,480
interacting magnetic.

830
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: So isn't it just a beautiful kind of way to

831
00:48:29,559 --> 00:48:32,559
piece everything together? And and I love it also too

832
00:48:32,679 --> 00:48:36,199
that you can now explain from your magnetic you on

833
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,840
theory all the fundamental forces and we don't need any

834
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,280
of them. And the thing that's beautiful about physics is

835
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,840
the most simplest. The simplest answers are usually the.

836
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 2: Best, right, can you? I want your audience to understand

837
00:48:49,159 --> 00:48:53,119
how how is it unified? Let's say, do we need

838
00:48:53,199 --> 00:48:55,559
a strofs? I want you to explain it because your

839
00:48:55,639 --> 00:48:57,920
audience that worthy or understand that.

840
00:48:59,039 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, So like this strong nuclear force, why if I

841
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,760
take two positively charged or two negatively charged things, if

842
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,480
I bring them together, they should repel, right if they

843
00:49:08,519 --> 00:49:13,280
get too close to right? So the reason why that

844
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,840
is if you imagine their balls, if you imagine it's

845
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,039
a ball of charge, a sphere of charge, then yes,

846
00:49:19,119 --> 00:49:21,719
they will repel at first, but if they get too close,

847
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,360
the sphere is gonna rotate and then you'll have then

848
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,320
they'll attract together. Boom. Now you have the strong nuclear force.

849
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,199
And then when you describe the weak force. This is

850
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:33,880
the one that I had the hardest time to understand,

851
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,840
but when you showed the image it made so much sense.

852
00:49:36,599 --> 00:49:39,119
Is that we see this beta decay. We'll see this

853
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:43,400
spontaneous decay where we see electrons get shot out from

854
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,800
our nucleus. How can that be possible? Well, it turns

855
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,320
out if we slam something in to our our atom,

856
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,480
our nucleus, then we we'll see stuff get shot out

857
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:59,480
the other side. So yeah, just conservation of energy. And

858
00:49:59,559 --> 00:50:02,599
we're in in this magnetic, this medium all the time,

859
00:50:02,679 --> 00:50:04,960
so of course things are interacting all the time. Things

860
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,440
are getting hit all the time. So that would explain

861
00:50:07,519 --> 00:50:11,320
the weak force as well. And then gravity. You I

862
00:50:11,559 --> 00:50:13,559
think that your view of gravity works perfectly well with

863
00:50:13,639 --> 00:50:17,519
zero point energy because the zero point energy it is

864
00:50:17,639 --> 00:50:20,800
also electromagnetic. And what we're basically just saying is gravity

865
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:25,760
is an electromagnetic force. Your explanation of taking the magnet,

866
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,639
let me see if I can use like my phone right,

867
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,400
or actually you have the magnets right, If you could

868
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,119
do that explanation would be great. Yes, please, this is

869
00:50:32,159 --> 00:50:34,920
the one that I loved. Oh you know even when

870
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,840
I when you showed this the first time, I didn't

871
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,679
even know what was going to happen, which just goes

872
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,000
to show that even somebody who's been studying physics, you

873
00:50:41,039 --> 00:50:43,679
don't know, Like, that's a very powerful magnet right now,

874
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,519
and it can pick up something very very heavy. Right,

875
00:50:47,559 --> 00:50:50,800
look at that. But then all you do is folded

876
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,199
in half. Right, Yeah, there you go. Perfect?

877
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,199
Speaker 2: So even that tiny ball, yep, yeah, I believe it.

878
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,840
I can pick a tub ball together. Oh wow, I

879
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,880
cannot pick a three. Okay. So then my question is

880
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,719
what do if I folded this one? I'm so happy

881
00:51:09,039 --> 00:51:11,719
when I watch you. I know you are you even

882
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,199
stop them, stop them your video ask people questions, right,

883
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,599
So I said, hey, so these are these are just

884
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:23,760
regular magnetic interaction, right, not nothing serious? What if I

885
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:29,519
folded this one makes senter gravity lower and foot again? Yeah,

886
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,039
I believe who uh you know, Patrick a bad David

887
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:41,400
form my for for my traffic this one. And so Terrence, right,

888
00:51:41,679 --> 00:51:46,440
Terrence Howard, I said, hey, if I make travel graphy lower,

889
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:48,440
I was trying to.

890
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: And then so yeah, pass intuitive because most people look

891
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:55,679
at that, and they think it's still going to pick

892
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:56,639
the stuff.

893
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,199
Speaker 2: Up I have. Basically, we'll have a stronger magnets closer

894
00:51:59,239 --> 00:51:59,719
to that one.

895
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: Right, should be smart stronger, right, but logically you would

896
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,400
think it was. But you know, go ahead and do it.

897
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 2: Almost almost ninety nine percent of people say that one

898
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,199
very you. Okay, there's some about to say that. I

899
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,519
may not even believable. You know what he's he's he's understanding.

900
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,400
So if I do this one I ever thought to

901
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,159
think about it? Now, you should have picked up all

902
00:52:21,199 --> 00:52:21,880
shoot the balls?

903
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: Mm hm, can't even pick up any of them? Yeah?

904
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,119
Can you even pick up a small one? No?

905
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 2: Right, I hope you can see my small ball? Can

906
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:34,119
you see a small ball?

907
00:52:35,199 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 1: Yeah? I can't even pick that up. Wow, incredible.

908
00:52:38,159 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 2: What happens is if I failed even.

909
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,679
Speaker 1: More, Yeah, it's gonna get even weaker, right or no,

910
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,719
because it can get stronger again after it starts to

911
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,280
become long again though, right, Oh, you mean.

912
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 2: If I unfolded, you're long stronger. But if i'm I

913
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,480
mean if I folded food to make it even come

914
00:52:53,559 --> 00:52:53,840
pack it.

915
00:52:56,679 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 1: So I have two questions on this. So my first one,

916
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,639
I guess is what is super conductivity. How do you

917
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:08,719
explain super conductivity because it repels all magnetic fields, right,

918
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,159
so how does that work in the context of this theory?

919
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,280
And then I also just want to say, I love

920
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,360
that because what you explain there. And all the physicists

921
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:21,039
come to me when I say that electricity unifies general

922
00:53:21,079 --> 00:53:24,679
relativity and quantum mechanics, and they say, oh, no, gravity

923
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,920
is too weak. And even though you look at the

924
00:53:27,079 --> 00:53:31,320
terms the actual equations and you realize that electric force

925
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,440
and gravity have like the same formations in terms of

926
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,760
the equations, it's just the constant that's different. And so

927
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,000
people say, oh, why is it weaker? Well, you just

928
00:53:40,079 --> 00:53:43,000
explained it because you just folded in half. Now you've

929
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,840
got the same amount of masks, but your force just

930
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:49,440
became much much weaker. So thank you for that explanation.

931
00:53:49,519 --> 00:53:52,119
But so explain to me super conductivity and how that

932
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:53,119
all fits in the role of.

933
00:53:53,119 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 2: This I actually I have an experimented to demonstrate it.

934
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,599
Super conductivity is actually just a magnetic phenomenon.

935
00:54:04,519 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 1: Nice.

936
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,679
Speaker 2: So right now, where ever, about to try to strive

937
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:14,119
for super room temperature conductivity? Right? Super doesn't doesn't not

938
00:54:14,199 --> 00:54:16,039
that means good? Super means you have to be a

939
00:54:16,199 --> 00:54:20,679
super cold temperature, right room of temperature conductivity. That's what

940
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,719
we really wanted to applic apply. So if if if

941
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,360
you allow me, I'm going to just set up. If

942
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,719
you take a takeo long you can, you can cut

943
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:35,920
a I'm going to show you. I'm gonna I'm.

944
00:54:35,599 --> 00:54:39,760
Speaker 1: Glad we'll have them ed, no problem.

945
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 2: Right, So then I'm going to show you what I

946
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:47,280
what I have here. We have a room superconductive room

947
00:54:47,559 --> 00:54:50,440
superconductivity too, you know. Yeah, so that's what I try

948
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:59,000
to say. So I have a oh my goodness, you

949
00:54:59,079 --> 00:55:03,920
know okay, when you whenever you're dealing with the magnet

950
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,000
you know you you said very well everything bawling ball

951
00:55:07,639 --> 00:55:12,079
down to magnetism, right, so that's why. So right now

952
00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:17,360
let me see if I how can I demonstration that's

953
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:26,840
one to you? H m. I have a six magnets.

954
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,119
Can you see that one? Ye? Yep, you can see

955
00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:31,280
the megan So I'm must do. I'm gonna just just

956
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,239
keep it to keep it the keep it that you're here,

957
00:55:34,199 --> 00:55:40,280
you can see that, right, Okay, So now what happens, Oh,

958
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:47,039
what happens is here I have this called the poom

959
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:52,239
graphie graphite. You know, just just type of a graphite

960
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:57,360
given the ships. Let me see if that can make

961
00:55:57,559 --> 00:56:01,400
make make any sense to you. Okay, and that's a

962
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:05,320
demonstrator what it is the super room of temperature superconductivity

963
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:14,480
is okay, I'm not sure if if the okay, let's

964
00:56:14,559 --> 00:56:18,679
let's let's use this one. I have to take it

965
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:28,320
out otherwise I cannot say, hey, did you see does

966
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:29,039
things of floating?

967
00:56:30,599 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, can you see it's a floating Yeah, yeah,

968
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:34,440
I can see it.

969
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 2: You can see that, right, and I can if I

970
00:56:40,039 --> 00:56:41,039
have a piece of paper.

971
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:47,559
Speaker 1: So it's definitely hovering above the top. So why though,

972
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:49,679
is it because of the configuration and the magnets that

973
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,280
you put it is what I'm saying.

974
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 2: So so you you do see it's hovering, hovering there

975
00:56:55,079 --> 00:57:00,119
right as you can't see it, so so you're know

976
00:57:00,199 --> 00:57:03,360
it's harving. So this is exactly what called a room

977
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:07,960
temper youre uh, you know conductions you know, so basically

978
00:57:08,559 --> 00:57:14,519
the so called ress remember electric the reason that that

979
00:57:14,679 --> 00:57:18,719
we said, hey, if we can reduce electrical resistance, so

980
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,519
we can have a constant the consonant the energy never

981
00:57:22,159 --> 00:57:25,039
So that's why we we'll have unlimited energy because they

982
00:57:25,079 --> 00:57:28,800
never consuming. That's that's a run concept, you know, if

983
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:30,960
you if you think about it, the so called the

984
00:57:31,039 --> 00:57:37,320
electricity electricity is oscillation, right, yeah, the oscillation. So work

985
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:41,719
comes to the resistance, you know, the particle oscillation, what

986
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,960
comes to reason? You know, when the oscillation, you create

987
00:57:45,079 --> 00:57:51,519
a rotational acceleration, right, anglar acceleration, So the resistance is

988
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:57,840
created accelerated as angular momentum, you know, right, So that's

989
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,199
there part of the that's part of the resistance come

990
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:05,719
from another part of you know, probably friction over heat,

991
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,920
so the particles random bumping each other, right, so when

992
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,519
they're alcinating, they could be a little bit of bouncing

993
00:58:12,559 --> 00:58:16,400
each other and reduce some energy. So that's why it

994
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:22,000
never it never. There's nothing called the resistant electron motion.

995
00:58:22,559 --> 00:58:27,719
That's what definitions we said that electron move on the

996
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,800
super super disks. So that's why if you can reduce it,

997
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,280
reduce the resistance, it can keep keep on motion. No,

998
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:39,039
that's not the word resistant come from. You know, it's all.

999
00:58:40,039 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: Because you know, we've seen stuff like.

1000
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 2: Crap.

1001
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of good examples. But oh so

1002
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,599
like Cooper pairs then, so like what is a Cooper pair?

1003
00:58:49,679 --> 00:58:53,239
Then if you're saying that it's you know, a local excitation,

1004
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:58,000
therefore nothing's actually moving. But we've measured superconductivity and we're

1005
00:58:58,039 --> 00:59:00,320
seeing these effects. So what actually is done?

1006
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 2: Oh that's where you come come after to magnetism. You

1007
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,719
remember what they do is they put up cold the temperature.

1008
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,519
You know what the cold the temporary to temperature can

1009
00:59:12,639 --> 00:59:17,599
do to water make a water to eyes? Right? What

1010
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,440
what what the difference between water ice, the crystal item

1011
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:27,679
crystal item? Basically you align the negative positive positive crystal

1012
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:31,119
grow the crystals is an actually positive? You align them.

1013
00:59:31,559 --> 00:59:36,960
So what happens you form a magnets So now magnetic force,

1014
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,000
you're forming a maganeta force. The same thing happens to

1015
00:59:40,239 --> 00:59:45,599
call the superconductive material the particles and the super cold.

1016
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,880
What happens super cold basically create the condition just create

1017
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,159
a condition less friction so that that kind of free

1018
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,400
rotation now free rotation free. So it's basically all the

1019
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:59,559
particles are started lying as a magnet. In every layers

1020
00:59:59,719 --> 01:00:04,840
there becomes a magnetic particle. So that's why it's a graphite.

1021
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,519
Have a one layer is layer lay that different layers

1022
01:00:09,639 --> 01:00:15,039
different lay layup and on bottom is a. It's a

1023
01:00:15,119 --> 01:00:18,880
wind magnet pole on the bi different layers, different magnepole.

1024
01:00:19,119 --> 01:00:23,840
So that's why you wered you were suddenly suspended. Oh

1025
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:27,159
my godness, I have another I have another evidence to shoe.

1026
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if it sounds all like magnet inversion.

1027
01:00:31,559 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 2: That yes, exactly, magnetic version. That's called the di magnetism. Right,

1028
01:00:37,159 --> 01:00:39,960
somehow make it becomes a dimagnetic So that's what the

1029
01:00:40,039 --> 01:00:43,199
colde the temperature you do, so do now the believer code.

1030
01:00:43,239 --> 01:00:47,599
The temperature truly can make a resistance to zero. The

1031
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,760
most of the resistance. When you make a particle oscillation,

1032
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:57,199
you're consuming accelerating force, consuming to accelerate the particles. Right, Yes,

1033
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,480
that's part of resistance, of course. I'm a part of

1034
01:01:00,719 --> 01:01:03,039
is due to heat or something reveals the motion.

1035
01:01:04,239 --> 01:01:06,639
Speaker 1: This makes a lot of sense. Remember LK ninety nine

1036
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:10,320
with that room temperature superconductor. They had experiments and the

1037
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:14,199
big pushback was that it never got to absolute zero resistance,

1038
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:17,599
like it was really really really really low but not actually.

1039
01:01:17,519 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 2: And still still have a similar resistance basically, Yes, I

1040
01:01:21,079 --> 01:01:22,079
I remember, evenough.

1041
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: We're looking at it levitating like we're literally right.

1042
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 2: Levitating just like a just like a superconductive just like

1043
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,000
a magnetsm floating, right, Yeah, and.

1044
01:01:30,039 --> 01:01:33,719
Speaker 1: That would imply that it's something fundamentally they've misunderstood about

1045
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,119
the concept in general. And that's what you're saying here,

1046
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:39,880
is that you know, as you cool it down, the

1047
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,360
lattice structure of the magnet forms in case.

1048
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 2: Of one form of magnetic a structure.

1049
01:01:44,559 --> 01:01:47,679
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that's in place. And so you could see

1050
01:01:47,719 --> 01:01:49,719
that same thing happening when you do that to any material.

1051
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:51,360
And so that's why you might see that, and then

1052
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,199
you could theoretically, you know, create that same effect at

1053
01:01:54,239 --> 01:01:57,480
a higher temperature. And this actually makes me think of

1054
01:01:57,519 --> 01:02:00,280
another question I wanted to lead into, which is do

1055
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:04,400
you think we can make like coherent balls of plasma

1056
01:02:04,719 --> 01:02:07,039
under this theory? So if you're saying everything's magnetism and

1057
01:02:07,079 --> 01:02:10,000
we can control all the forces, and we've been talking

1058
01:02:10,039 --> 01:02:11,960
about fusion, why can't I just make a ball of

1059
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,360
plasma that can float around freely because theoretically I can

1060
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,639
control all the forces at the fundamental level.

1061
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 2: Sure, this is very similar to anti gravity force, right

1062
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:28,679
if you can tell you know gravity? Okay, so I

1063
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:32,320
just say in my I give you my results from

1064
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:36,119
you all theory. Say gravity is like a magnetic attraction,

1065
01:02:36,679 --> 01:02:42,800
just magnetism part of attraction, part of magnetism. So if

1066
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:47,639
you're watching the the the PbD that the podcast, I

1067
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,719
use a different language. I said, oh, gravity is the

1068
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:59,199
manifestation of magnetism or a summation. Remember summation of electric

1069
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:03,000
magnetic body. You know, summation of a mass system when

1070
01:03:03,119 --> 01:03:06,239
when you when you have a lot of matter mass together,

1071
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:10,760
actually you reduce the force. Right, It's not like incream messa.

1072
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,679
So I use the call the summation or called the

1073
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:17,800
research your force of of the magnetic body. You you

1074
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:23,360
you made so so basically so the gravity is a magnetics,

1075
01:03:23,599 --> 01:03:24,559
part of magnetics.

1076
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 1: So just to cancel out any anti gravity would just

1077
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,599
be uh, you know, a reverse charge or a reverse

1078
01:03:30,679 --> 01:03:31,719
force going the other direction.

1079
01:03:33,559 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 2: Since the gravity we saw the attraction only force is

1080
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,639
a magnetic is part of magnetic But however magnetism has

1081
01:03:41,719 --> 01:03:45,480
both attraction and the repulsion. Right, so we do able

1082
01:03:45,599 --> 01:03:50,519
to use you set a manipulated plasma bol COUNTERWD counter

1083
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:54,320
gravity counter earth magnetic field. If you just kind of

1084
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:59,360
reverse counter control the magnetic field of the platform counter

1085
01:03:59,599 --> 01:04:03,440
earth attraction man field, you're not that is a floating

1086
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,159
You could have been repelled at the accelerated when I.

1087
01:04:07,599 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: Go in any direction then, right, like just pretty simply.

1088
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,719
Speaker 2: I hope it doesn't justify the u f O phenomena,

1089
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:15,159
right you ap phenomena.

1090
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 1: I think people that don't see the connection between the

1091
01:04:18,119 --> 01:04:21,079
UFO stuff and magnetism, like I just don't know how

1092
01:04:21,119 --> 01:04:23,639
to help them, because like I can look at the superconductivity,

1093
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,559
I can just look at like magnetic levitation in general,

1094
01:04:26,599 --> 01:04:28,960
and it looks just like all these UFO videos flying

1095
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:33,159
around exactly same. They got to be using magnetism, right,

1096
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:35,559
I believe if.

1097
01:04:35,559 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 2: They are more advanced than us, or somebody asked me

1098
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,480
in the in the past, could be in the in

1099
01:04:41,559 --> 01:04:44,960
the past of human reads. It could be mastered this

1100
01:04:45,159 --> 01:04:48,159
kind of technology, right, You just need to reverse the

1101
01:04:48,239 --> 01:04:52,559
magnetic field so then it can can build itself, like

1102
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:56,320
what is the pyramid or or something coral? What is

1103
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:59,880
the death in the Florida Oral castle or coral cat

1104
01:05:00,159 --> 01:05:04,039
or something? It is highly them, might be, might be

1105
01:05:04,159 --> 01:05:06,199
not that complicated. M hm.

1106
01:05:07,159 --> 01:05:11,679
Speaker 1: A couple more physics questions for you. So, do you

1107
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:15,280
think that the universe is scale invariant? Do you think

1108
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,719
that we can make an atom at the size of

1109
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,320
a human like scale it up that way then, because

1110
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,599
if you're saying that everything is just magnets, like the

1111
01:05:22,679 --> 01:05:24,480
way you've described everything to me today, I see no

1112
01:05:24,599 --> 01:05:27,119
reason why you couldn't just make something bigger at the

1113
01:05:27,239 --> 01:05:31,719
same you know, scale invariant. Everything just tiny little magnets,

1114
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:33,119
and then you just add them together make bigger.

1115
01:05:34,719 --> 01:05:37,079
Speaker 2: That's what we see in the sum or in some

1116
01:05:37,199 --> 01:05:41,840
of some some of the giant you know, the oportunity

1117
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,159
that we're talking about the black hole. What is the

1118
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,159
six a billion times a mass of a sum, right,

1119
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:50,119
which is the is You know what happens with it?

1120
01:05:50,239 --> 01:05:53,840
You have a launching magnet together, you have a limit.

1121
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,599
You launched them up. They started to force a reduce, right,

1122
01:05:58,119 --> 01:06:00,360
to feel the redeals to become the neutual. When you're

1123
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:04,039
too much, you know what happens is unstable now unstable,

1124
01:06:04,239 --> 01:06:07,719
very easily to create what is the ejection? Suddenly the

1125
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:11,679
fourth is so weak, right, Suddenly local is instead of attraction,

1126
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:16,199
they rotated and then becomes ejection. So that's why that's

1127
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:21,639
called the radioactivity. So that's where all the radioactive material

1128
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:28,119
has atomic upounding a number greater than eighty six or

1129
01:06:28,159 --> 01:06:31,639
eighty four. You know, yeah, if you counted everything heavier

1130
01:06:31,719 --> 01:06:35,679
than that one. So if it becomes radioactive, because unstable.

1131
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,960
So that's what I try to answer, you do we

1132
01:06:38,079 --> 01:06:40,920
have a limited I believe once you land together enough

1133
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,199
probably the very easy way to create uh what is

1134
01:06:44,239 --> 01:06:47,800
it called the uh what is supernova or something you

1135
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:50,000
know exploded and something? Right?

1136
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're saying the big energetic events like as

1137
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,320
we just keep stacking things together.

1138
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 2: It's not like you there the balance a point, right, even.

1139
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 1: In a black hole? They say, so even if we

1140
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:05,800
were say okay, we get to this point where it

1141
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,599
gets so large, we have such a gravitational force that

1142
01:07:08,719 --> 01:07:12,280
light can't escape. There's these huge like ejections that are.

1143
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:15,119
Speaker 2: Like on the perfectly access to the black holes, right,

1144
01:07:15,599 --> 01:07:19,159
yeahing radiation To talk about it, you just have a pap,

1145
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:21,320
you know. You know, I do not believable we need

1146
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:22,199
a black hole, right.

1147
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:24,119
Speaker 1: I know. I was going to ask you that's why,

1148
01:07:24,239 --> 01:07:26,880
And so it sounds like you know, you're kind of playing.

1149
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:28,440
I was gonna ask you're playing both sides here where

1150
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:31,280
you're saying, okay, well, you know, I guess you're I

1151
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:32,960
think your argument is going to be that it gets

1152
01:07:33,039 --> 01:07:36,159
so big where it's unstable. Therefore a black hole couldn't

1153
01:07:36,159 --> 01:07:38,480
really become stable, and therefore they shouldn't exist. Is that

1154
01:07:38,519 --> 01:07:40,400
where you're getting at? Oh?

1155
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 2: No, not that you have that dipart you know, you know,

1156
01:07:44,559 --> 01:07:50,280
we know every galaxy or every super giant all particular,

1157
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:53,079
they have a certain limit beyond that limit that they

1158
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,440
create a ceremonuclear reaction. You were, there were some dynamic

1159
01:07:56,599 --> 01:08:00,119
balance right throughout, something coming back and surround. As to

1160
01:08:00,239 --> 01:08:03,800
keep repeating this pattern, I try to say, black hole

1161
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,360
is another it's an about the way missing matter. Yes,

1162
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,920
it's another about the way missing force. We still have

1163
01:08:09,079 --> 01:08:13,440
the same force, just instead of a gravitational force, we

1164
01:08:13,639 --> 01:08:15,840
use a back that the force. Does that make sense

1165
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:16,119
to you?

1166
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:18,520
Speaker 1: So we could go ahead, keep on.

1167
01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, So if you travel in near center of the

1168
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:27,279
galaxy without without a black hole, you still crowd probably

1169
01:08:27,319 --> 01:08:33,199
want to be burned objects nearby that yes, yeah, yeah.

1170
01:08:33,079 --> 01:08:34,720
Speaker 1: The center of the black the universe, even without a

1171
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:36,359
black hole, is going to be a center of the

1172
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,359
galaxy is going to be a very tumultuous place filled

1173
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:45,159
with high energy reactions. Right, yes, So so you think

1174
01:08:45,239 --> 01:08:47,520
that so you do you don't think that black I

1175
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:50,159
guess you're saying that you don't think we need black holes,

1176
01:08:50,199 --> 01:08:52,000
but they still could be possible. Is that what you're

1177
01:08:52,279 --> 01:08:52,880
kind of a right?

1178
01:08:54,199 --> 01:08:57,039
Speaker 2: Yes? Oh, I want to emphasize the win thing about

1179
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:01,239
the black hole. Are you living in Florida or in

1180
01:09:01,399 --> 01:09:02,920
somewhere else where?

1181
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 1: Do you I love Minnesota or we're in Minnesota?

1182
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 2: Or the weather you use a central time? Have you

1183
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:13,600
studied in Florida or have you lived in Florida before? Okay?

1184
01:09:14,119 --> 01:09:18,399
So what I my analysis to uh to black hole

1185
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,159
is that if you live in Florida, you go through

1186
01:09:21,279 --> 01:09:25,840
hurr hurricane season? Have you? Okay? You know That's where

1187
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:30,439
I learned something counter into the I'm living at Merry Island.

1188
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,079
It's the island, so you know the barrier island. Every

1189
01:09:33,159 --> 01:09:37,119
time hurricane they falls, you to you know, to move

1190
01:09:37,239 --> 01:09:40,560
somewhere else. Right at the one year, we have a

1191
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:44,000
neighbor from Miami. They said, how we are not moving?

1192
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:47,840
They came from Miami is more than the central Orlando

1193
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,319
are right? They said, oh, we've been through this one

1194
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,000
doesn't matter. Okay. So I said, okay, I will follow you.

1195
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:56,920
So I think another moving you know, what happens hurricane comes,

1196
01:09:57,279 --> 01:10:03,000
before her comes, everything's shaking. After the center of the

1197
01:10:03,119 --> 01:10:07,960
eye reach them, everything suddenly totally quiet. Have you been

1198
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:08,279
through that?

1199
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that happens in Minnesota, to the tornadoes. You

1200
01:10:11,359 --> 01:10:13,920
get to the eye of the tornado and it's just oh.

1201
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:18,159
Speaker 2: Why too, that's a similar phenomenon. So I said, why

1202
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:23,520
it is another? Wind is quiet because all the heavy particles,

1203
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:27,479
the moistures in the air completely just like spined out,

1204
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:31,279
just like what what's your machine? All the words spinned

1205
01:10:31,319 --> 01:10:34,199
out right, all the closes on the wall in the

1206
01:10:34,239 --> 01:10:38,119
center is completely empathy. That's what I found. Oh my goodness,

1207
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:41,840
the center, I feel like wind is having no wind,

1208
01:10:43,119 --> 01:10:46,399
no sound, and then no wind. I said, where did

1209
01:10:46,399 --> 01:10:50,359
the wind go? All the particles the wind particles look

1210
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:53,279
on the wall or on the hurricane wall outside of

1211
01:10:53,359 --> 01:10:58,199
the eye. And also there is no clouds when you

1212
01:10:58,359 --> 01:11:02,439
look through the eye, no clouds. It feels like it's

1213
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:05,560
a complete that fils the peace. Yeah, that's what I

1214
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:09,600
have iopt. But that's what happens to black hole. We're

1215
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:12,800
called the hole. It's another because black it's not because

1216
01:11:13,199 --> 01:11:16,600
the gravity is so strong, no particle can no light.

1217
01:11:17,359 --> 01:11:21,880
I believe that's absent matter or my son given name

1218
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:26,199
is card. It's called the void, black hole, black hole,

1219
01:11:26,319 --> 01:11:27,600
he called a black avoid.

1220
01:11:28,159 --> 01:11:31,520
Speaker 1: It's an actual nothingness, right, It's like there's actually just

1221
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:33,880
nothing there. That's why we see it as a black void,

1222
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,600
because the forces everything's pushing pointing around it, just like

1223
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:40,000
the eye of the storm, right. You see, if you're

1224
01:11:40,039 --> 01:11:42,640
in it, you would see nothing. And actually, I I

1225
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,960
love that theory perfectly, honestly, and I wouldn't be surprised

1226
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:47,359
to find out that it's real at the end of

1227
01:11:47,399 --> 01:11:52,520
the day. And this this makes me think about wormholes

1228
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,840
as well, Okay, because this is this idea of an

1229
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:59,399
Einstein Rosen bridge, which would say, if we make that

1230
01:12:00,079 --> 01:12:04,000
that black hole, that that space, what's really happening is

1231
01:12:04,039 --> 01:12:06,319
you are creating a bridge between some point there and

1232
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:10,119
some other point anywhere else in the universe, and that

1233
01:12:10,239 --> 01:12:11,680
if you were actually somehow to be able to go

1234
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:13,800
into that, really you're just going through a bridge and

1235
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:17,439
that's a shortcut between space and time. Do you you

1236
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,720
think that's possible given your understanding of black holes and

1237
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:22,840
what have you, What are your thoughts on Einstein Rosen bridges?

1238
01:12:24,359 --> 01:12:27,600
Speaker 2: Oh, I doubt that I went through. But you know,

1239
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:31,119
now I'm thinking about how about the black of void

1240
01:12:32,039 --> 01:12:38,520
could have that effect? Yeah, could I have? Now you

1241
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,560
know you may not. You know, so called the black

1242
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:44,760
hole is still out in the center right, just a

1243
01:12:47,359 --> 01:12:50,359
article partly, so you're still flying there, right, If a

1244
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,119
black avoid, do you still have an ampty space there right,

1245
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:56,279
and you still have a force the dragon them, So

1246
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:58,960
I'm now the exclude of that possibility.

1247
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:01,159
Speaker 1: I guess way I would look at is if the

1248
01:13:01,359 --> 01:13:05,800
universe is like I guess hard explaining maybe you know

1249
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:07,039
the word for this, but like if I go in

1250
01:13:07,159 --> 01:13:09,439
one direction in the universe and I just keep going

1251
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:11,399
in one direction and I end up back where I was,

1252
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,399
Like if I just after a while, if you look

1253
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:17,560
at it like that, then I would say this point

1254
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:21,159
black hole cannot exist, Like there cannot be a singularity

1255
01:13:21,199 --> 01:13:24,359
that goes to nothing. That must go and open up

1256
01:13:24,399 --> 01:13:27,479
to something else somewhere else. So like I would argue

1257
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,760
that every black hole, if one does exist, must have

1258
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:33,800
a white hole somewhere else, either in our reality or another.

1259
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:37,119
Speaker 2: It goes through the whole, right, it's first a black

1260
01:13:37,199 --> 01:13:39,840
hole dragon you're in right to the other side of

1261
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:41,079
it called the white hole.

1262
01:13:44,239 --> 01:13:45,720
Speaker 1: Let me push your yeah.

1263
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 2: Another one is a yeah.

1264
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 1: So based on what you said here, I see no

1265
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:57,159
reason why negative energy couldn't exist, because you're saying that

1266
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:01,600
magnetism interacting with the medium is like churning up the ether.

1267
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:04,720
It's it's it's pulling energy out of the ether, and

1268
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:07,920
then you can polarize it positively or you can polarize

1269
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:11,199
your interaction positively or minus. And I would say, okay,

1270
01:14:11,199 --> 01:14:13,520
if that's the case, then now negative energy would just

1271
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:15,319
be depending on how you polarize it.

1272
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 2: If you consider positive charge in negative charge, polarize a

1273
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:24,239
different way. I don't know how the nective energy defined, right,

1274
01:14:25,199 --> 01:14:27,640
you know convention that it defined the energy like that

1275
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:31,319
positive a number. Right. However, if you relatively if you

1276
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:37,880
you define a different ways, say relatively absolute a zero degree, right,

1277
01:14:38,279 --> 01:14:41,119
if you define that one, could we could it define

1278
01:14:41,159 --> 01:14:44,960
some energy right below? It's always so so called the

1279
01:14:45,039 --> 01:14:48,119
absolutely zero could have could be not not not that case,

1280
01:14:48,279 --> 01:14:51,039
so then you could have a different definition. I'm not

1281
01:14:51,199 --> 01:14:56,119
a h excrude or not contromed, but I just just

1282
01:14:56,239 --> 01:14:58,600
have a salt. You know how we define things.

1283
01:14:59,039 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 1: So there is Miguel al kubi Ares warp drive metric

1284
01:15:02,119 --> 01:15:05,520
consistent with your understanding. I mean, if what you're saying

1285
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:07,960
is true and we can manipulate magnetic forces like this,

1286
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:10,760
I don't see a reason why we couldn't have infinite

1287
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:14,119
acceleration to a point where we would see relativistic faster

1288
01:15:14,239 --> 01:15:15,560
than light travel. What do you think.

1289
01:15:16,159 --> 01:15:20,279
Speaker 2: I believe there is no speed limit at the speed

1290
01:15:20,319 --> 01:15:23,199
of a light. Just speed a light in the cosmic

1291
01:15:23,359 --> 01:15:28,800
scale is a very very limited finite number. You know.

1292
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:33,800
The reason is the Albert Einstein postly it's called the

1293
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,840
speed of universe, right, based on the light in his

1294
01:15:37,159 --> 01:15:41,800
conceptual light is the capital. You know, is a particle concept.

1295
01:15:42,399 --> 01:15:45,520
If a car concept in particle traveling, the fastest way

1296
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:52,640
is absent of any resistance. So then assuming vacuumly is

1297
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:57,199
completely absent of any any medium, anything's right. So then

1298
01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:01,960
you could say, hey, if complete today vacuum any resistance

1299
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:06,159
and materials in it, that we should have a maximum velocity.

1300
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:11,199
So that's that attraction to make make believe there's a

1301
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:16,159
limit of speed, the limit of universe. But in one case,

1302
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:18,479
we believe that the speed of a light that is

1303
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:22,800
just they called the characteristic velocity of the medium.

1304
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:28,079
Speaker 1: Right index, Yes, yes, yes, you can modify the refractive

1305
01:16:28,119 --> 01:16:29,439
index then, right.

1306
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 2: If you can change it, you can change the density,

1307
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:35,760
you can change the strength. So that's why light speed

1308
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,000
of a light is different even in the air, different

1309
01:16:38,079 --> 01:16:41,199
than in the water, in in vacuum, or in diamond

1310
01:16:42,359 --> 01:16:44,840
in glass, right exactly.

1311
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:47,359
Speaker 1: So you do believe then that speed of light is variable.

1312
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 2: I do be speed light is not the ultimate the

1313
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,560
speed of universe. No, we definitely can faster than speed

1314
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:56,920
of light.

1315
01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard this term dynamic nuclear orientation?

1316
01:17:02,279 --> 01:17:04,039
Speaker 2: If you can't define them, I'm not.

1317
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 1: Basically has to do with manipulating the spin and orbit

1318
01:17:09,039 --> 01:17:13,079
the spin of electrons so to line them up. So

1319
01:17:13,199 --> 01:17:15,720
like imagine that a permanent magnet is just a bunch

1320
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:17,800
of electrons that are perfectly lined up, kind of like

1321
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:20,920
we were talking about before, and that if you can

1322
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:24,560
manipulate the each spin of each electron, like at that

1323
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:27,560
atomic level, If you could do that, the idea is

1324
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:30,319
that you could create a repulsive gravity like that just

1325
01:17:30,399 --> 01:17:32,800
by changing those around, you could cause your thing to

1326
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:36,319
just lift off or move around in any direction. And

1327
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:37,880
and to me, the reason why bring it up is

1328
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:40,000
it sounds like your theory it's like, okay, well everything

1329
01:17:40,119 --> 01:17:41,279
is just a dipole magnet.

1330
01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:48,279
Speaker 2: Then you're right, you turn turn T off, you can repair, right.

1331
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 1: And then you would use magnetism for that is so

1332
01:17:51,399 --> 01:17:53,640
that theory that sounds like it could make sense to you.

1333
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 2: I mean it sounds like you have Yeah, that's not

1334
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:59,119
the violate anything. I want to make sure before and

1335
01:17:59,279 --> 01:18:01,479
I want to as a win thing about it. Uh,

1336
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:05,439
you know the the connection with electron. We're talking about

1337
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:08,399
the electrial monetarging prodict does not exist. Right, I will

1338
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:11,720
replace that term because that you are you are means

1339
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:15,800
universal fundamental particle means business magnetic particle. Right. Yeah. And

1340
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:21,439
you know sometimes my my partner, that's David Garowski, he

1341
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,119
said that sometimes I said, hey, electron does not exist.

1342
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:26,560
He said, why in the later on you you're talking

1343
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:29,680
about using electron term. I said, I changed the definition.

1344
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:32,159
I said that. Initially I said electron does not exist

1345
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:35,600
based on the quantum theory nective charge particle. I said,

1346
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:38,840
later on, I use the electron means oh, it's just

1347
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:42,560
a magnet. He thinks I'm confusing. So I want to

1348
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,520
make sure I'm gonna instead of a say electron, I'm

1349
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:47,479
going to just you are you? It means a magnet.

1350
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:51,840
And another thing I want to emphasize is significance. If

1351
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:55,720
the electron does another exist a protoon does not? Only

1352
01:18:56,000 --> 01:19:00,960
you are magnets. What does that mean? That means current

1353
01:19:01,159 --> 01:19:06,439
atomic model that's called a propussion motion model would not

1354
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:13,479
be true. What that means? That means entire quantum mechanics

1355
01:19:14,119 --> 01:19:19,479
builded on top of this nucleus with election clouds or

1356
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:23,840
electron orbitals should not be should not be there. There's

1357
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:29,399
no free rotating electron in the clouds or whatever whatsoever,

1358
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:33,039
so that entire model will be out. That means, I

1359
01:19:33,159 --> 01:19:35,760
hate to say them, some certain my colleagues that the

1360
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:39,880
teaching quantum mechanics for almost half of the life. They

1361
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,239
will say, are you telling me I'm a light my

1362
01:19:42,359 --> 01:19:46,800
sting to the whole career. It's a difficult subject.

1363
01:19:47,159 --> 01:19:51,560
Speaker 1: Well, you're not. You're arguing conceptually though right from an experience.

1364
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:54,199
You're not arguing that the experiments that we've seen around

1365
01:19:54,239 --> 01:19:56,399
quantum mechanics are flawing. You're saying that we have to

1366
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:58,039
look at it through a different lens.

1367
01:19:58,199 --> 01:20:00,359
Speaker 2: It's not this lens of different things. A couple of

1368
01:20:00,399 --> 01:20:01,479
cass Yeah.

1369
01:20:01,399 --> 01:20:05,199
Speaker 1: Different interpretation of it and that, and I don't think

1370
01:20:05,239 --> 01:20:07,079
there's anything wrong with that. I mean, to me, that's

1371
01:20:07,119 --> 01:20:09,800
what science is all about. It's about building on previous theories.

1372
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,359
I mean science has pretty much always been wrong and

1373
01:20:12,399 --> 01:20:16,720
then improved over history. So I actually look up to

1374
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:19,000
the fact that you are bold enough to say stuff

1375
01:20:19,079 --> 01:20:21,920
like that, like, hey, look, I'm saying quantum mechanics is wrong.

1376
01:20:22,119 --> 01:20:24,720
You know, like in generally in academia, people are too

1377
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:27,520
afraid to do that because we've got this gate keep

1378
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:30,960
kept peer review process. And if you don't, if you

1379
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:33,640
go against the grain, then you are get shunned by

1380
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:36,359
your your colleagues. So thank you for being brave enough

1381
01:20:36,399 --> 01:20:39,279
to say that. There's a few more there's a few

1382
01:20:39,319 --> 01:20:41,039
more last questions on it there, I think are pretty

1383
01:20:41,119 --> 01:20:45,439
quick is what about phase conjugation? So there was this,

1384
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:49,720
uh I think he was a lieutenant Colonel Tom Bearden

1385
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:53,079
back in like the eighties, was talking about this idea

1386
01:20:53,079 --> 01:20:56,079
of phase conjugation, which you take your waves and they

1387
01:20:56,119 --> 01:21:00,520
perfectly overlap. You can either create amplification so interfering patterns,

1388
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:07,039
so either an amplification effect or a cancelation effect. Right, destructive, destructive?

1389
01:21:07,079 --> 01:21:11,359
Now imagine that I did a destructive event. So I

1390
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:14,439
like to use this rubber band analogy. So let's say

1391
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:17,359
I take my waves and I have them cancel each

1392
01:21:17,399 --> 01:21:19,720
other out perfectly, so they're perfectly in phase or out

1393
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:21,359
of phase one hundred and eighty degrees out of phase

1394
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:24,000
one another, and I say, okay, I'm gonna use one

1395
01:21:24,279 --> 01:21:27,680
let's say one unit of amplify or amplitude on each

1396
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:30,199
and then I increase it to two units each. I

1397
01:21:30,239 --> 01:21:32,640
would say, okay. Standard physics would say, both sides are

1398
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:35,840
equalizing out. So there's no net force in any direction here.

1399
01:21:36,359 --> 01:21:38,840
If I increase it to three times, there's still no

1400
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:41,199
net force in either direction. If I keep pulling on,

1401
01:21:42,159 --> 01:21:43,600
it's gonna rip, it's gonna snap.

1402
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 2: Right.

1403
01:21:44,119 --> 01:21:48,560
Speaker 1: So the question here is I'm pulling on both sides.

1404
01:21:49,039 --> 01:21:53,840
Standard physics says there's no net force, no net Yeah,

1405
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:55,640
but why is the rubber banding about to break?

1406
01:21:55,760 --> 01:22:00,199
Speaker 2: Then, you know, would stand out of phasically saying no

1407
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:05,720
net force. A references to the center of the mass.

1408
01:22:07,079 --> 01:22:09,479
You are talking about it now, you are talking about it.

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01:22:10,039 --> 01:22:14,079
That's the defamation part, the internal forces, you know. Now

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we come to now the talking about it in the

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trade I read it a body. You know that, right,

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So now we're talking about the trade. The materials, as

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an Elaska material have a defamation, have a local point

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that different the stress string. So that's why even though balanced, however,

1415
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:36,479
the internal if you cut it, if you look at

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01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:41,199
the cross sectional stress inside the rubber band, it's an increase.

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Speaker 1: Let me put this because I want to put in context. Now,

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imagine that I'm taking two photons, two packets waves of

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01:22:50,119 --> 01:22:53,039
light and I'm doing and I'm having them cancel each

1420
01:22:53,079 --> 01:22:56,239
other out. What's happening there? If I have them completely

1421
01:22:56,279 --> 01:22:59,920
out of phase one another, and I have destructive interference occurring?

1422
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:04,319
What would you say I'm doing physically to reality there?

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01:23:04,359 --> 01:23:06,640
What's occurring is is there nothing happening.

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01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:10,119
Speaker 2: If two full time? We're talking about that too too,

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01:23:10,399 --> 01:23:13,399
like a wave. If like a wave you're talking about

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01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:17,560
they say destructive coherence. So that means when they meet

1427
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:22,039
meeting and then you do not see any any wave

1428
01:23:22,159 --> 01:23:25,439
motion right peak and valleys, they are canceleding each other,

1429
01:23:26,319 --> 01:23:33,159
just like a steel what perfect colm whether in the

1430
01:23:33,239 --> 01:23:37,520
located surface of the pond, right, perfect steel? Yeah? That

1431
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:41,560
that that's that's the one. It's very rare happened, right. However, yeah,

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01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:45,800
if they are constructive constructive, so now you have double

1433
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:48,960
you see double amplitude, right, and you will see this

1434
01:23:49,159 --> 01:23:52,560
call a wave in interference pattern.

1435
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 1: Constructing possible because if that's just two waves of light,

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01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:58,039
then I imagine what I just described there is if

1437
01:23:58,039 --> 01:24:02,159
it's going to be constructive, would see a bright amplification

1438
01:24:02,239 --> 01:24:07,920
of light destructive? I imagine it would just disappear. Does

1439
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:08,680
that make any sense?

1440
01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:13,159
Speaker 2: Actually, actually you just mentioned about it. That's one mystery.

1441
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 1: Uh.

1442
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 2: In the abasilid experiment, we see light, light across there, right,

1443
01:24:19,319 --> 01:24:21,000
light that goes through we see in the ferum patter

1444
01:24:21,199 --> 01:24:23,920
this said, what what happens if we were all observe

1445
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:27,279
the light from the other side, when we all observed this,

1446
01:24:27,399 --> 01:24:30,960
suddenly this said that the pattern disappeared. Remember that that

1447
01:24:31,119 --> 01:24:34,199
that episode? Remember that one, right? You know how they

1448
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:39,479
observe light, they shining another light opposud the direction. You

1449
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:41,560
know what happens in the interaction of the cancel each

1450
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:45,479
time either is a great the original interference pattern. I'm

1451
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:50,239
sorry I I probably distracted you, but you reminded me. Yeah,

1452
01:24:50,279 --> 01:24:53,439
that that's another mystery. When they say that we all

1453
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:56,720
observe it. We measured this suddenly way it becomes a

1454
01:24:56,760 --> 01:25:00,279
part of what is it? Yeah, we would disappeared right because.

1455
01:25:00,039 --> 01:25:02,199
Speaker 1: The article, I guess what I was getting at was

1456
01:25:02,399 --> 01:25:04,279
trying to figure out if there might be a connection

1457
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:10,079
between these electromagnetic waves we tall light and potentially some

1458
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:14,720
and the disturbance causing some sort of gravitational effect or

1459
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:19,039
some sort of second order effect where And that's kind

1460
01:25:19,039 --> 01:25:20,359
of what I was getting at, because like I'm pointing

1461
01:25:20,359 --> 01:25:21,680
out with the robber bands, like okay, you have the

1462
01:25:22,039 --> 01:25:24,079
the waves cancel each other out, but it's not really

1463
01:25:24,119 --> 01:25:26,359
that there's nothing there. There's still this disturbance in the

1464
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:32,199
medium stress and if that material is under stress, then

1465
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:35,800
maybe that stresses gravity or some other you know, second

1466
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:38,800
order effect that might be occurring there. And I just

1467
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:40,640
thought that kind of pieced together what we were talking

1468
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:43,399
about with respect to magnetism and then this you know

1469
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:47,079
medium that might be out there. Do you think have

1470
01:25:47,159 --> 01:25:50,039
you ever heard of one electron theory? How many electrons?

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01:25:50,079 --> 01:25:50,359
Do you think?

1472
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:54,159
Speaker 2: Oh? I believe maybe ten years ago or maybe certain

1473
01:25:54,239 --> 01:25:57,760
years ago, I watched a move when when field is

1474
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:02,640
that a European is someone lead physicism presented that.

1475
01:26:06,039 --> 01:26:08,720
Speaker 1: If there is this energy out there, whatever this you

1476
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:10,560
know that we're talking about here, that this idea of

1477
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:12,279
why does there have to be more than just one

1478
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:14,920
like maybe all of space and time is kind of

1479
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:17,319
an illusion, and then there's just it's really just one

1480
01:26:17,399 --> 01:26:20,439
electron and it's everywhere. At the same time, I just

1481
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:23,319
wanted to get your opinions on that type of idea

1482
01:26:23,399 --> 01:26:25,279
and the framework of you on theory.

1483
01:26:26,239 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 2: I saw that, you know, the particle based on our

1484
01:26:29,199 --> 01:26:33,319
daily daily experience, right, the particle is just like a

1485
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:38,880
one piece of materials, And when electron to explain an

1486
01:26:39,079 --> 01:26:43,520
entire universe electro phenomena, it's a little bit a stretch

1487
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:43,840
for me.

1488
01:26:44,399 --> 01:26:44,720
Speaker 1: Got it?

1489
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:45,640
Speaker 2: What do you say?

1490
01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:49,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the idea, but I guess to me

1491
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:52,000
it depends on For me, it would have to be

1492
01:26:52,079 --> 01:26:54,079
that space and time is an illusion. But I guess

1493
01:26:54,119 --> 01:26:55,079
I already believe that.

1494
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:57,079
Speaker 2: So Okay, if.

1495
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 1: You take a very hard line approach to general relativity

1496
01:27:00,079 --> 01:27:02,520
and you say that we're all in our own little

1497
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:04,600
reference frame all the time, like all in our own

1498
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:07,359
little bubble, then how big or small does that bubble

1499
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:09,600
have to be? It could theoretically be infinitely small, So

1500
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:13,720
maybe everything really is the same, and it's all been

1501
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:16,199
broken out of some equilibrium. We all come from one

1502
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:19,680
tiny little point or something like that. So I kind

1503
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:21,520
of like that idea. But the last thought I had

1504
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:23,600
on you is is another one that it starts to

1505
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:26,000
get in the more esoteric or the fringe aspects of physics,

1506
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:28,319
which is, what do you think about the holographic principle

1507
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:31,439
or what do you think about you know, the nature

1508
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:33,880
of our reality in general and time?

1509
01:27:35,239 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 2: Oh okay, at at least in the area i'm a study,

1510
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:44,359
I do not feels that there's a true need for

1511
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:51,439
that theory. So basically, use uan theory. Magnetum can explain everything,

1512
01:27:52,159 --> 01:27:55,119
all the mysteries that we have, at least I can collect.

1513
01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:58,279
I also, you can't expect, so I do not feel

1514
01:27:58,359 --> 01:28:02,000
the needs for that one. So if there's no needs

1515
01:28:02,119 --> 01:28:04,399
for that one, so I would leave it as a

1516
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:08,680
other physis has led them to imagine. All right, I

1517
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:10,159
just leave it out for now.

1518
01:28:11,239 --> 01:28:14,239
Speaker 1: Well, uh, doctor, you thank you so much for your time.

1519
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:16,000
I'll go ahead and give you a moment to just

1520
01:28:16,039 --> 01:28:17,840
shout out any of the projects or anything that you're

1521
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:20,319
working on, or any other colleagues that you want. But

1522
01:28:20,399 --> 01:28:21,399
thank you very much for joining me.

1523
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 2: Go ahead, okay, I hope you have my presentation. If

1524
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:29,479
you can turn to the very last page and the

1525
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:32,239
second and last page, if you can open open the

1526
01:28:33,079 --> 01:28:35,439
power point file, I send it to you and I

1527
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:39,359
will say so. When is my name of whiping you.

1528
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:42,840
I'm the founder of a universal particle theory. I call

1529
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:48,600
the U R theory of everything and try to interpret

1530
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:54,279
the entire universe use one particle, win fundamental force and

1531
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:59,439
the wind field win universe and simpler to explain that one.

1532
01:29:00,039 --> 01:29:00,159
Speaker 1: Uh.

1533
01:29:00,239 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 2: And also I want the technology my If you're looking

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for additional information, you can look at the website calla

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a Neighbor's Choice dot com.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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01:29:11,359 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 2: That's my partner. He's the host of the a A

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A Neighbor Choice dot com website and of the podcast

1539
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:21,399
and also readio with you, and I'm his a co

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host for the for the part of the that show

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is called the Science and the U Program.

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Speaker 1: Awesome.

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01:29:28,319 --> 01:29:29,199
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, thank you.

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01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:31,600
Speaker 1: I know I'll be checking it out. And thank you

1545
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:34,239
everybody for watching another episode of Hard Trews podcast. I

1546
01:29:34,319 --> 01:29:35,800
hope you enjoyed it and I hope you learn from

1547
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:38,119
new physics till next time, later, everybody