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<v Speaker 1>You're listen sings KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>The bill handles show on demand on the iheartradioff I

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<v Speaker 2>AM six forty handle Here in the morning, Crew Amy

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<v Speaker 2>is back. It's a taco Tuesday, May thirteenth. The President

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<v Speaker 2>is in Saudi Arabia today and he's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>visiting other MIDYSN countries. Doesn't look like Israel at least

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<v Speaker 2>it hasn't been announced yet. And it's all about investment,

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<v Speaker 2>putting in Saudi Katari Amaradi money into the United States

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<v Speaker 2>as an investment. So he's going over there on a

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<v Speaker 2>business trip because he says he is the business president,

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<v Speaker 2>and he is. There's no question about that. So let's

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<v Speaker 2>move in a double In another direction, the Department of

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<v Speaker 2>Homeland Security has lost and has launched an investigation into

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<v Speaker 2>California's Cash Assistant program for immigrants and what this does.

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<v Speaker 2>Provide monthly cash benefits to a number of aged, blind,

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<v Speaker 2>disabled non citizen that are ineligible for Social Security benefits

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<v Speaker 2>because of their immigrant status or non immigration status. And

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<v Speaker 2>normally for those of us that are citizens or here legally,

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<v Speaker 2>we're entitled the Social Security benefits. If you happen to

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<v Speaker 2>be blind, if you happen to be old, if you

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<v Speaker 2>happen to be disabled, put those three of you together,

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<v Speaker 2>all three together, and you really comply.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is a subpoena.

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<v Speaker 2>That the government DHS requesting all the records from La

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<v Speaker 2>County Department of Public Social Services to determine if ineligible

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<v Speaker 2>immigrants have received SSI money Social Security money during the

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<v Speaker 2>past four years. Homeland Security Secretary Christin Noam said, radical

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<v Speaker 2>left politicians.

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<v Speaker 1>Boy, that's the language.

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<v Speaker 2>You're here. A lot in California prioritize illegal aliens over

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<v Speaker 2>our own citizens.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the point of.

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<v Speaker 2>All this is to make sure that illegal immigrants do

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<v Speaker 2>not get federal money under the Social Security Administration. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>here's the problem. The benefits that do go to these

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<v Speaker 2>folks do not come from the Feds. This is state money.

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<v Speaker 2>And do the FEDS have jurisdiction. No, this is state

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<v Speaker 2>money that says we're going to pay you regardless of

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<v Speaker 2>immigration status. Because the Social Security folks aren't paying you

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<v Speaker 2>where you would normally be entitled to this money, aged, blind,

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<v Speaker 2>disabled under SSI, you're not going to receive it because

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<v Speaker 2>under federal law you can't receive it because of your

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<v Speaker 2>immigration status.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're going to supplement.

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<v Speaker 2>The state of California is going to do it, and

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<v Speaker 2>therein lies the fight. For some reason, the Feds, the

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<v Speaker 2>Trump administration is insisting that somehow this is federal money,

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<v Speaker 2>even though it can be proven it's not. And so

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<v Speaker 2>the state's saying, you can't do this, so let's go

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<v Speaker 2>to second tier. Can the state be forced to stop

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<v Speaker 2>these payments? Well, in reality, tons of federal government of

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<v Speaker 2>federal money goes to the states, I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>The FED funds.

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<v Speaker 2>So many programs. So here is what the government can do,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is exactly what happened with Harvard. Can we

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<v Speaker 2>force you to give up your DEEI programs? Well, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a private institution, so of course the government doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Have the to issue an order.

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<v Speaker 2>For example, no judge is going to say to Harvard

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<v Speaker 2>you must give up your DEI programs. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>a private institution. But here's what the FEDS do is

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<v Speaker 2>they say those nine billion dollars in federal money that

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<v Speaker 2>we do give to Harvard for various research grants, pel grants,

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<v Speaker 2>other forms of financial support, those stop unless you give

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<v Speaker 2>up those DEI programs and you stop your anti Semitic policies.

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<v Speaker 1>And add and on, and so this is.

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<v Speaker 2>A fight that can the federal government withhold money to

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<v Speaker 2>the states based on the states are doing something that

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<v Speaker 2>the states have the power to do and the Feds

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<v Speaker 2>are wrong in saying this is federal money.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's another one for the courts.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, for the next four years, you're gonna see

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<v Speaker 2>more cases going into the courts. I mean, by the hundreds,

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<v Speaker 2>lawsuits will be filed, all right. The governor of the

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<v Speaker 2>state of California has come out and released a model

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<v Speaker 2>ordinance for local governments and it's urging California cities and

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<v Speaker 2>counties to ban homeless encampments. This is one of the

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<v Speaker 2>issues in which this wild leftist out of controlled governor

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<v Speaker 2>in fact is pretty conservative on the homeless side. And

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<v Speaker 2>he timed the announcement with a release of three point

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<v Speaker 2>three billion dollars in prop one funding for housing and

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<v Speaker 2>treatment options for the mentally ill and homeless populations. We

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<v Speaker 2>seem to be really in favor of spending ungodly amounts

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<v Speaker 2>of money to help the homeless and those who need

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<v Speaker 2>mental health. The homeless, the mental health people are a

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<v Speaker 2>big part of the homeless population. And not that I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how many people are against helping homeless people,

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<v Speaker 2>but the amount of money that has gone in to

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<v Speaker 2>these projects over the years is astronomical. Newsom said, is

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<v Speaker 2>time to take back the streets. It's time to take

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<v Speaker 2>back the sidewalks. It's time to take these encampments and

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<v Speaker 2>provide alternatives, which I don't know what you know, how

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<v Speaker 2>much more money can you spend? And the state is

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<v Speaker 2>giving you, the sister, the county and cities more resources

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<v Speaker 2>than ever and it's time to just end the excuses.

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<v Speaker 2>Homelessness is a huge political issue in California. The governor

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<v Speaker 2>ran on homelessness his last election. Karen Bass ran on

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<v Speaker 2>homeless as the number one issue, and we've got a

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<v Speaker 2>huge homeless issue. We have a high cost of living,

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<v Speaker 2>lack of affordable housing, shortage of health and drug treatment centers,

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<v Speaker 2>and this lack of progress big time is the governor

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<v Speaker 2>is blaming the cities and the counties for not doing more,

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<v Speaker 2>even with the insane amount of money they've received. So

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<v Speaker 2>he has released a model ordinance, which he says is

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<v Speaker 2>a starting point and asking locals to prohibit persistent camping

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<v Speaker 2>in one location and encampments on blocks.

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<v Speaker 1>On streets that block sidewalks, which is already a law.

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<v Speaker 2>But the political atmospheres when the cops rouse these people,

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<v Speaker 2>you have the homeless advocates going to court and how

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<v Speaker 2>dare you rouse these people? They have the right to

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<v Speaker 2>be homeless, which is true. They have the right to

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<v Speaker 2>camp out on the city sidewalks, which probably not true, parks,

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<v Speaker 2>probably not, but they do it anyway. And the argument

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<v Speaker 2>is where are you going to put these people? Because

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<v Speaker 2>the number of homeless is well, to give you idea,

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<v Speaker 2>La County sixty thousand people homeless. That's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>tents to go up. RII is thrilled with this. They

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't be happier. Both they're used and new section. And

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<v Speaker 2>so right now, the city of La bars homeless encampments

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<v Speaker 2>within five hundred feet of schools and daycare centers. Citations

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<v Speaker 2>possible for violations which are never given.

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<v Speaker 1>Illegal for the.

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<v Speaker 2>Unhoused in the city of Los Angeles to refuse to

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<v Speaker 2>clear space for wheelchairs or to put up tents within

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<v Speaker 2>five feet of a doorway. Ask any person that owns

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<v Speaker 2>a business that has a tent six feet away from

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<v Speaker 2>the front door.

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<v Speaker 1>And say, hey, that's a good idea. I really like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So he coupled this announcement with the release of three

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<v Speaker 2>point three billion dollars that we voted to pay into

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<v Speaker 2>the program in twenty twenty four, and that's to expand

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<v Speaker 2>health and housing and treatment options for our mentally ill

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<v Speaker 2>and homeless folks. And the funding is not connected to

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<v Speaker 2>citi's banning encampments. And the governor pointed out that the

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<v Speaker 2>funding this three point three billion is in addition to

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty seven billion dollars the state has already given

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<v Speaker 2>local governments to address homelessness. That doesn't count county money,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't count city money, and it doesn't count NGO

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<v Speaker 2>money non governmental organizations charities.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year, Newso issued in executive order requiring state.

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<v Speaker 2>Agencies to remove homeless encampments on state property, county property,

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<v Speaker 2>city property. Is another issue, and I've as I've said

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<v Speaker 2>many many times, the issue of homelessness is virtually impossible

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<v Speaker 2>to deal with for a few reasons. One, Southern California

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<v Speaker 2>is a great place to be homeless versus let's say

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<v Speaker 2>upstate New York. I don't know how many people are

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<v Speaker 2>out on the street in Buffalo in the middle of winter.

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<v Speaker 1>That gets a little problematic.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, here we are where the land of sunshine, and

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<v Speaker 2>so the services are particularly good in southern California, and

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<v Speaker 2>you can't afford housing. I mean, there are people that

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<v Speaker 2>actually lived in reasonable decent apartments, for example, lost their jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>They're on the street, They're living in their cars, and

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<v Speaker 2>some of them are on the sidewalk camping.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's a whole issue is these people.

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<v Speaker 2>Would go into shelters because there are beds available, but the.

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<v Speaker 1>Shelters don't let you bring in pets.

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<v Speaker 2>And how many homeless do you see there with pets

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<v Speaker 2>on leashes or just hanging loose there on the sidewalk,

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<v Speaker 2>tons and tons. And for those of you that have

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<v Speaker 2>dogs and have not eaten them yet, it's your really

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<v Speaker 2>really tied up with your dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't let go of my dogs. I love my dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is a problem that is just.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't deal with this without insane amounts of money.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've already spent insane amounts of money. Do we

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<v Speaker 2>spend more? Do we front burner more? I mean, the

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<v Speaker 2>only way to deal with this is to spend a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more money. And government is certainly limited in the

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<v Speaker 2>amount of money it takes in la is at a

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollar deficit this year. How much more do you

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<v Speaker 2>pour into homelessness? And your heart goes out to homeless people?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it does, you know. As much as I

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<v Speaker 2>want to be a complete dick, I feel terrible and

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<v Speaker 2>I see someone on the street, you know, living there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's no fun. Now I'm glad that I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have gone down the sidewalk where I've been asked,

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<v Speaker 2>do you have change?

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<v Speaker 1>Mister?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have any spare change? And I go into

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<v Speaker 2>my pocket, reach into my pocket and jingle the change

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<v Speaker 2>and say, yes, I do have change, and then keep

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<v Speaker 2>on walking. But that's more entertainment than anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we're done with that. Okay, let me tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on with minimum wage and this.

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<v Speaker 2>I have really mixed feelings about this, and one of

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<v Speaker 2>them is the philosophy that if someone is working full time,

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<v Speaker 2>and I really believe this, there should not be a problem,

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<v Speaker 2>or you still should be able to at least feed

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<v Speaker 2>yourself and have some kind of housing. And that is

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<v Speaker 2>not the case. Minimum wage just says and cut it.

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<v Speaker 2>If you go go to the Hilton Universal City, twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four stories up there on the hill next to Universal Studios,

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<v Speaker 2>they have four hundred and ninety five rooms. So they

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<v Speaker 2>have signed a deal with the LA twenty eight organizing

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<v Speaker 2>Committee reserving hundreds of rooms for Olympic fans.

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<v Speaker 1>It's block booking.

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<v Speaker 2>And the city council just approved a plan to let

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<v Speaker 2>the Hilton add another second building, eighteen story tower, just

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<v Speaker 2>in time.

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<v Speaker 1>For the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 2>This is two hundred and fifty million dollars and now

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<v Speaker 2>the folks that own this are saying, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe not. The La City Council is set to vote

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<v Speaker 2>on a requirement that hotels with sixty or more rooms

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<v Speaker 2>pay their workers at least thirty dollars an hour by

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty eight, and along with a new eight dollars

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<v Speaker 2>and thirty five cents per hour healthcare payment.

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<v Speaker 1>And if the city Council approves without.

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<v Speaker 2>Significant changes, according to the owners, we're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>pulling out of the room block for the Olympics. We're

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<v Speaker 2>done and we're going to kill the expansion. Just can't

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<v Speaker 2>afford it anymore. And last year, the city Council voted

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<v Speaker 2>twelve to three to draft the package of minimum wage hikes,

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<v Speaker 2>which would apply not to hotels but also private companies.

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<v Speaker 2>At LA International, the airport, airlines, concessions, and the minimum

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<v Speaker 2>wage would be the most in the country by a

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<v Speaker 2>LA's tourism workers are struggling just to pay for rent

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<v Speaker 2>and for food and should benefit financially for the Olympics

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<v Speaker 2>just as much as private corporations do. And private corporations

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<v Speaker 2>and the city and the county do.

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<v Speaker 1>Really well with the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't know about government, but certainly hotels and restaurants and

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<v Speaker 2>tour companies do pretty well during the Olympics. And so

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<v Speaker 2>the backers of a higher wages say, hey, listen, you

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<v Speaker 1>Why shouldn't our workers.

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<v Speaker 2>Do better when the Olympics are here? And when these

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<v Speaker 2>major hoteliers and corporate owners of major venues say, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, those wages are simply going to scuttle development

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<v Speaker 2>of new hotels.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a croc.

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<v Speaker 2>The backers of the minimum wage proposals say, that is

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<v Speaker 2>a croc. It's not going to stop them from building

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<v Speaker 2>new or expanding hotels. And this is their accusation, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's true, and that is every single time the minimum

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<v Speaker 2>wage has gone up, you, the owners of hotels and

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<v Speaker 2>restaurants have said we're done. Business is going to collapse,

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<v Speaker 2>We're not going to be in business anymore. And in reality,

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<v Speaker 2>this is prior to COVID, business was going up pretty dramatically.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, minimum wage went up. Businesses didn't fail. Business

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<v Speaker 2>is still expanded.

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<v Speaker 3>Neil, there are fast food places closing throughout California.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, but not prior, not prior to COVID.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, I'm talking since the minimum wage went up.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what would be better is if they had

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<v Speaker 3>profit sharing that is tied in automatically to the growth

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<v Speaker 3>of a business.

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<v Speaker 2>Rather here and I don't disagree, but you're a union leader, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>And this is where you and I disagree because the

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<v Speaker 2>union backers are arguing that's not true. Because the reason

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<v Speaker 2>in that places close up is not that minimum wage

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<v Speaker 2>is they're just simply not making enough money. They make money,

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<v Speaker 2>but just not enough money. They don't hit what businesses require.

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<v Speaker 2>And so when you talk about the profit sharing, which

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<v Speaker 2>makes a lot of sense, well, profits go up and

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<v Speaker 2>they go down.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the way business works.

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<v Speaker 2>If your profit sharing, do you simply say, okay, you

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<v Speaker 2>get a piece of the profits when they go up,

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<v Speaker 2>But when the company does badly. Let's see one year

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<v Speaker 2>it loses money, which happens to business all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Do the wages go down? Of course not because you

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<v Speaker 2>have a baseline. It doesn't matter what that's like. Colpers

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<v Speaker 2>the retirement system that teachers pay into, for example, and

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<v Speaker 1>It's a one way street.

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<v Speaker 2>When the economy increases and the investments do really well,

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<v Speaker 2>CalPERS increases your portfolio, your four to oh one k,

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<v Speaker 1>When it goes down, the state just picks up the difference.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a one way street. It's all up. Nothing is down.

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<v Speaker 3>When I make more money, the union takes more of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's a different issue.

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<v Speaker 2>Now when you make more money, the government picks up

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more money from you. But that's a different

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<v Speaker 2>issue at a different time. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to come back and continue on.

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<v Speaker 2>With this because there is a real moral issue, an

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<v Speaker 2>ethical issue involved in this. One of them being and

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<v Speaker 2>right back to what I've always said, we should not

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<v Speaker 2>have a society where if you work full time, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't feed yourself or you can't have housing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a tough one and.

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<v Speaker 2>Businesses are saying, hang on a minute, we've got to

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<v Speaker 1>Both of which are true.

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<v Speaker 2>City Council is going to propose or meeting tomorrow that

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<v Speaker 2>during or prior to the Olympics at hotels and restaurants

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<v Speaker 2>thirty dollars an hour minimum wage actually thirty dollars and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five cents, and developers and owners of restaurants are going,

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<v Speaker 2>we just can't afford it anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>We're done, We're done. And then you have a.

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<v Speaker 2>Hotel developers saying we're not going to develop like we

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<v Speaker 2>have asked for and gotten permits for, that's all, and

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<v Speaker 2>the unions are saying, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>A croc that you still are going to develop.

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<v Speaker 2>Amy came in and said during the course of the

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have to worry about minimum wage at the counters

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<v Speaker 2>because there was no one at the counter.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Amy, what did you experience there?

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<v Speaker 4>So it was it was actually we did not go

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<v Speaker 4>into a McDonald they had them in France. It was

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<v Speaker 4>when we were in Canterbury, England, and we were Jones

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<v Speaker 4>and for a diet coke with ice, because in a

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<v Speaker 4>went in and there are no cash registers at the counter.

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<v Speaker 4>It's all kiosks. There were a few people putting the

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<v Speaker 4>actual orders together. But even the soda machine is fully automated.

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<v Speaker 4>They you order it, the cup drops down, goes on

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<v Speaker 4>people at all. So that's I think a concern of

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<v Speaker 4>those higher rates. You can get the higher wage, but

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's a point where the union folks, and in

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<v Speaker 2>What we need is people still working there, and plenty

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<v Speaker 2>of people working there. That happened during the course of

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<v Speaker 2>automation in auto plants, and it's certainly happened during the

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<v Speaker 2>the rail road yeah, the owners of the rail roads. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so now we're talking about the minimum wage going up

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<v Speaker 2>thirty bucks an hour, and this is the ongoing fight.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it going to be true? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>For example, in Long Beach, residents voted to raise the

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<v Speaker 2>hotel minimum wage last year, revenue per available room went

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<v Speaker 2>up sixteen percent, and that's what the unions are arguing,

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<v Speaker 2>And in reality, the people that own the hotels are saying,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, it's a lot more in the We

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<v Speaker 2>really don't want to even talk about wages because don't

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<v Speaker 2>talk about your living expenses and how difficult it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the cost of housing, it's inflation.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the cost of living in southern California that's the problem,

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<v Speaker 2>not the wayes.

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<v Speaker 1>And the union says, so that's a croc.

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<v Speaker 2>You say you're not going to build, and at the

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<v Speaker 2>And the union says, okay, we were wrong, when in

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<v Speaker 2>fact they don't build. You've got a couple of permits

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<v Speaker 2>going up, particularly in Universal, for example, eighteen stories going

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<v Speaker 2>up in a building next to the Hilton, the big hotel,

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<v Speaker 2>and they've been given the okay, and the developer says,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, we're done.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not going to pay this.

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<v Speaker 2>We're simply not going to build this addition to the hotel,

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<v Speaker 2>and the union says that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Bs okay, So they don't build. Now does the union

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<v Speaker 1>say it's a real struggle? It is a real struggle.

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<v Speaker 2>And why only hotel workers when and fast food workers?

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<v Speaker 2>How about the people that are on the manufacturing line.

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<v Speaker 2>How come they don't get those wages?

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<v Speaker 1>But the union doesn't create any jobs. That's not a

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's not companies that are building hotels, restaurants and

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<v Speaker 1>But the argument is here is the argument.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to call it a socialist argument, and it

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<v Speaker 2>is you couldn't increase your business without us. You are

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<v Speaker 2>making money on our backs. And the answer is, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the way it works with owners of business and employees. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, welcome to a capitalist, a capitalistic system. And

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<v Speaker 2>then you have other countries around the world where the

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<v Speaker 2>unions are so strong. For example, in Germany, you have

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<v Speaker 2>a major corporation. Do you know that a union member

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<v Speaker 2>has to sit on the board of directors in Germany

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<v Speaker 2>for example.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a different world, all.

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