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<v Speaker 1>All right, Derby Week rolls along here. Thanks for hanging out,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for joining us wherever you're listening however you're listening,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly appreciate it. I know I stole that from Colin Cowherd.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure if you listen to the Herd then you've

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<v Speaker 1>heard him say that. But it's a great way to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because again this day and age, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>people listening live, you've got people listening on podcast in

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of different ways. So big thanks to you,

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<v Speaker 1>and also thanks to Thornton's. As you likely know, if

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I don't know if people still go inside

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<v Speaker 1>to pay for gas. I mean, if you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>pay in cash, obviously that's the only way you'd be

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<v Speaker 1>able to do it. But I don't know many people that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm sure it still happens more often than

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<v Speaker 1>I realize. But nonetheless, if you're at Thornton's filling up

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<v Speaker 1>because you're saving money. At the pump, you might see

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<v Speaker 1>all the great things they've got that they're promoting on

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<v Speaker 1>the windows, on the door. Even at the pump, you'll see, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>many great deals they've got. So again, big thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>our friends over there at Thornton's. I do want to

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<v Speaker 1>remind you that you could take us with you reever

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<v Speaker 1>you go. Listen live on the iHeartRadio app. Also listen

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<v Speaker 1>live at seven ninety Louisville dot com. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>thinking earlier, earlier, I was looking at I was on Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it was. I couldn't remember which social media

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<v Speaker 1>platform it was, but I was on Instagram and I

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<v Speaker 1>was just scrolling. And obviously the algorithm targets things that

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<v Speaker 1>you're interested in, or maybe they you know, maybe they're

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<v Speaker 1>listening to us. And I know I'm not the only

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<v Speaker 1>one that has noticed this. In fact, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>become like a conversation that you hear, maybe not frequently,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's just no scenario where you could be talking

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<v Speaker 1>about something without googling anything on.

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<v Speaker 2>Your computer or your phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Or clicking on anything and then sure enough, just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you mention a product, you mentioned something, and then all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden you pop open a social media app Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, Snapchat,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's an ad for something that you just

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<v Speaker 1>discussed aloud. Like that makes people assume that they're listening

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<v Speaker 1>to you, which, hey, if it's targeting me for things

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<v Speaker 1>that they think I'm interested in, there's a good chance

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<v Speaker 1>they're right. So anyways, I was on Instagram and I

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<v Speaker 1>was just talking about the different Derby Festival events that

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<v Speaker 1>we have here, because to be honest with you, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean there's some that I've known of for a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>like I knew of them, but there's also many that

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know was a thing. And I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>just did it, not a full deep dive today, but

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of looked at the entire schedule of the

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky Derby Festival events and I didn't know that we

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<v Speaker 1>had a one million dollar hole in one golf contest.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that we had Actually I knew of this,

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot about the bed races, which by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>took place this week. There was kind of some controversy.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as the winner, we can maybe get into

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<v Speaker 1>that a little bit later. I'm not sure if it's

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<v Speaker 1>super controversial, but there is somebody who had a picture

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<v Speaker 1>of two beds crossing the finish line and the one

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<v Speaker 1>that is crossing just a hair like it was clearly

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<v Speaker 1>a photo. Finish was not announced the winner, and it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds as if there's been some confusion on.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, there used to be a.

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<v Speaker 1>Rule that everybody had to have their hands on the

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<v Speaker 1>bed as it crosses the finish line in order for

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<v Speaker 1>you to win, and maybe that's why they.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't get the victory and their competitor did.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know which companies it was that ended up

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<v Speaker 1>coming in first and second, but hopefully they just had fun,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, if you were out there really competing

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<v Speaker 1>and there was a big prize on the line, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that could really be controversial. But anyways, looking at

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<v Speaker 1>all these great different events that we have here for

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky to every festival season, it's just a reminder how

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<v Speaker 1>rare this is, and I get a little bit I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know in my own head sometimes when we get

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<v Speaker 1>close to Derby, because you know, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>it's fomo, which is you don't know what that means,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fear of missing out. I'm not sure if it's

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<v Speaker 1>that or if it's you know, an insecurity that I have,

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<v Speaker 1>But like, I wish I was more into horse racing sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, over the years, I've just convinced myself that

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<v Speaker 1>there's really no scenario where I'll ever be super into it,

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<v Speaker 1>but other people are. You know, it kind of makes

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<v Speaker 1>me feel like, hey, you know, I wish I shared

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<v Speaker 1>that same interest that some people have. But I was

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<v Speaker 1>talking with Paul Miles earlier today, one of our our

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<v Speaker 1>phenomenal reporters over their own news radio eight forty whas,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was we were just talking about what the

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<v Speaker 1>Derby's kind of turned into, not necessarily just Derby season,

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<v Speaker 1>but the Kentucky the Kentucky Derby itself. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>just thinking, to the people who come here in their

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<v Speaker 1>private jets that land at Bowman Field or and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>stay for a few days, maybe they just come for

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<v Speaker 1>the Derby and then fly out, Like do they realize

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<v Speaker 1>that we do these things, like we have a steamboat race,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's to me, that's you know, some would say

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that's kind of weird. I think it's kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 1>So as we get closer and closer to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the actual Kentucky Derby, which it'll be here before you

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<v Speaker 1>know it, Derby Week's rolling along pretty quickly. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to take it all in, right, because

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<v Speaker 1>I can't match the level of love and passion that

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<v Speaker 1>some people have for horse racing. So I'm just trying to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, embrace all the things that come with Derby.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean we've got a balloon fest, hot air balloons,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, it's not just a horse race. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot that comes with it. And it's a special,

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<v Speaker 1>special thing around here. I know I've said it many

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<v Speaker 1>times this week. I know I've said it many times

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<v Speaker 1>in years prior, but there's just something about being in

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<v Speaker 1>Louisville during the Kentucky Derby Festival season and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's good vibes, good energy, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So a lot to get into here today, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not really sure where to start, but I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to be a thing for many, many

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<v Speaker 1>many years to come, this time of year where we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about something that we didn't talk about for, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>decades prior and what I mean is once you get

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<v Speaker 1>to the end of the college basketball season, that's whenever

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's attention shifts to the portal and NIL, because NIL

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<v Speaker 1>has led us to players sticking around in college basketball

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<v Speaker 1>longer than they ever used to. And there's some real

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<v Speaker 1>numbers that I want to get into here in just

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<v Speaker 1>a moment that I think really makes me feel more

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<v Speaker 1>confident in what I've been saying for a while, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is that you know, the new world here with

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<v Speaker 1>NIL and the transfer portal, meaning now you get paid

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<v Speaker 1>to play, and now with the portal, you can go

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<v Speaker 1>wherever you want, seemingly as many times as you want.

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<v Speaker 1>So what that has done is that has made college

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<v Speaker 1>basketball a much better product, not only because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys sticking around longer, but because you got you've

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<v Speaker 1>got free agency essentially where you can just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>build a team from scratch, just like Pat Kelsey did

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<v Speaker 1>a year ago. Like that, that's that's good for the game.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, there's the downside of it, where you don't

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<v Speaker 1>get guys to stick around for four years. The four

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<v Speaker 1>year player is going to be a real rare thing

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<v Speaker 1>moving forward, and that is and you know that sucks However,

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<v Speaker 1>I still believe that if you're just looking at the

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<v Speaker 1>pros and cons, I mean, it's way more beneficial for

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<v Speaker 1>college basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>This new world is than detrimental.

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<v Speaker 1>And I you know, I'm somebody who loves college basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>so I certainly appreciate that. So again, I don't see

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<v Speaker 1>any change as far as what I guess late March

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<v Speaker 1>and really all of April is and that is where

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<v Speaker 1>you get a feel for what your team's gonna look

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<v Speaker 1>like the following season and the NBA Draft. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you used to have guys that would go to the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA Draft knowing like they would turn pro, enter their

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<v Speaker 1>name and draft and know that they didn't have any

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<v Speaker 1>real chance of getting drafted, right, but they just decided, Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to stick around in college anymore. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I can come back and get my degree whenever I'm

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one years old, and I want to go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and start my pro career now, because you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're a professional athlete, Let's be real, in most instances,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't do that for the same amount of time

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<v Speaker 1>that folks can do most jobs that they have. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>like God willing, I won't need to have any athleticism

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<v Speaker 1>or be in great shape to do this for as

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<v Speaker 1>long as they allow me to do it. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>a basketball player, you got a window. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>spend four years in college, yeah, it would probably be

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<v Speaker 1>a great experience. I doubt anybody would ever regret that experience.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there are some examples, and yes, you would

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<v Speaker 1>get an education and you'd live a good lifestyle, right

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<v Speaker 1>if you're I mean before an il, before anybody was

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<v Speaker 1>getting paid to play as far as you know, name,

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<v Speaker 1>image and likeness, they were still living a pretty good life.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got a I mean, these college athletes have nice

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<v Speaker 1>facilities they live in. They don't pay for health insurance.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they're fed, and you actually even get like

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<v Speaker 1>a stipend, like the cost of attendance stipend. So like

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<v Speaker 1>even before that, you were still living a great lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't as if you were out here just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>doing manual labor and being tortured, nothing like that. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like it would make sense that you would decide, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'll come back and get my degree, because again,

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<v Speaker 1>why not go ahead and start making money and instead,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just say you've got a.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten year pro.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say you're going to play till you're thirty two

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<v Speaker 1>years old, and by the time you get thirty three

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<v Speaker 1>or just you know, your body's not what it once

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<v Speaker 1>was and you no longer are playing at the level

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<v Speaker 1>to where you can earn a living doing it, G League.

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<v Speaker 2>Europe, wherever.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you left college at twenty you would have

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<v Speaker 1>had twelve years to do it. You leave college at

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three, you have less time. So again it's not

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<v Speaker 1>that big of a difference. But now you've got guys

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<v Speaker 1>that are turning down the NBA knowing that they would

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<v Speaker 1>get drafted, albeit maybe late first round, second round. They're

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<v Speaker 1>now turning that down to come back to college because

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna make more money. So Draft Express put this

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<v Speaker 1>out earlier. Today, they're only one hundred and six players

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<v Speaker 1>that have entered the twenty twenty five NBA Draft, according

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<v Speaker 1>to the NBA's latest release.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the.

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<v Speaker 1>Lowest number of early entrants since twenty fifteen. And it's down. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty one, that was right before the NCAA's

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even think it's I don't think it's close.

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<v Speaker 1>College basketball has benefited from it more than any and

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<v Speaker 1>translate to the NBA, but you know, the product of

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<v Speaker 1>improvement from the year prior, or maybe even you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think it was suffering in a big way.

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<v Speaker 1>but we're clearly a big college basketball market, both programs

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<v Speaker 1>this wasn't. I mean, it wasn't widespread, but it was,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they weren't developed yet, maybe they were still just

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're a top twenty five recruit of McDonald's

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<v Speaker 1>like you didn't you didn't really have a big role

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<v Speaker 1>because you weren't ready. Like it was almost as if

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<v Speaker 1>like you had no time to develop, I mean you did,

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<v Speaker 1>doing that, but there's also I think some level of

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that you were a McDonald's All American or

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<v Speaker 1>it was just viewed as a bad thing that you

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<v Speaker 1>were a bust and you're you know, you know, your

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<v Speaker 1>story's over. Yeah, you're you're all right, you're decent, but hey,

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<v Speaker 1>they were really wrong about you. Will now, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not ready to play as a freshman and

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<v Speaker 2>So I just think it's it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Beneficial for literally everyone involved in college basketball. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess those that would probably say, hey, you're out

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<v Speaker 1>of your mind, this is killing us. It's probably the

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<v Speaker 1>mid majors, right, the coaches that are recruiting players and

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<v Speaker 1>developing them for a few years and then they're about

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<v Speaker 1>to enter a special season that they've been building for.

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<v Speaker 1>But then they're two best players. They leave because they

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<v Speaker 1>can go elsewhere and make more money, and they'd be

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<v Speaker 1>foolish not to do that. So yeah, I guess from

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<v Speaker 1>that aspect, there are some signs there are some downsides

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<v Speaker 1>of it, but they'll adapt, right, I mean, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>they have to do. I mean, it just sounds like something,

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<v Speaker 1>sales pitch from mid major and low D one programs

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<v Speaker 1>the hell out. I mean again, think about that, a

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<v Speaker 2>To a better program.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's just unheard of, and I'm sure that's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be directly how it is, but that's probably

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<v Speaker 1>a good to an extent. I think that's probably a

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<v Speaker 1>good sales pitch because you know you can sell that. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>with with coaches at the high majors now being able

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<v Speaker 1>players that are twenty one, twenty two years old, most

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<v Speaker 1>coaches are choosing to do that, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a trend that's only gonna grow. So you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you can you know, you use that against those coaches, right, like, hey, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>time because they've got this guy back and that guy back,

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<v Speaker 1>and oh, by the way, they brought in two guys

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<v Speaker 1>that play on the wing just like you. So why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you come here. Yeah, it's not the SEC, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not the Big Ten, it's not the ACC. But you'll

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<v Speaker 1>get minutes, you'll put up big numbers, and then when

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<v Speaker 1>you hit the portal the next year, you'll have everybody

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<v Speaker 1>calling you again. I mean, I doubt that that will

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<v Speaker 1>be like the direct sales pitch, but I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you should do if you want to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you're gonna make this work, because if

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<v Speaker 1>you just try to, you know, I mean again, you

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<v Speaker 1>could try whatever you want to keep guys to stay,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's just not realistic. You can't pay, and the

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<v Speaker 1>nil situation is just gonna be just gonna be much different. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I used to kind of worry about the

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<v Speaker 1>future of college basketball because you know, the product wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>Davis to really bring eyeballs to the sport because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>of the product, meaning guys that everybody knew were probably

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<v Speaker 1>tell when you watch them play for programs like Duke

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<v Speaker 1>in Kentucky. But you know, you don't get those guys

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<v Speaker 1>very often. That's a pretty rare thing. Well, now maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have I mean, Cooper Flag was certainly a big,

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<v Speaker 1>big deal this year. But I think even though you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this can't miss NBA prospect like Cooper Flag was the product.

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<v Speaker 1>When I say product, I mean the game like it's competitive,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's another factor that I think makes it

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<v Speaker 1>a benefit to college basketball, meaning the new world that

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<v Speaker 1>we are, that we that we're in now with the

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<v Speaker 1>with nil and with with the portal. So I just thought,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I just thought that number. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty crazy to see only one hundred and six players

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<v Speaker 1>enter the draft when just four years ago, right before

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<v Speaker 1>you get paid to play three hundred and sixty three

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<v Speaker 1>innered And another thing to keep in mind of the

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and six that have entered this year, there's

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<v Speaker 1>many of them that know they're coming back to school

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<v Speaker 1>or at least probably expect to come back to school

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<v Speaker 1>because they're just going through this process to get the

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<v Speaker 1>experience and maybe get some good feedback from the NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Otaga away at Kentucky, I mean, I think the

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<v Speaker 1>expectation is he's back for Kentucky next year, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>and other countries, international players that have entered the draft.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, I don't know if this proof.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure some would say, you know, they don't notice

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<v Speaker 1>much of a difference, but for me, like this is

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<v Speaker 1>this is a good thing. And yeah, it's not really

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<v Speaker 1>college basketball anymore. It's professional basketball, just you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>different version of it compared to the NBA. All Right,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot we're going to get into today, so make

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<v Speaker 2>The ACC. Uh, they decided at least they're looking.

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<v Speaker 1>Into doing something that I think would benefit the league

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<v Speaker 1>that I want to get to. Although I do have

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<v Speaker 1>about the ACC a lot, But I think if you have,

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<v Speaker 1>long time that I don't often think about if you're

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<v Speaker 1>an outsider and you hear about all these events that

418
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<v Speaker 1>come with the Kentucky Derby Festival, you know, leading up

419
00:20:54.440 --> 00:20:57.519
<v Speaker 1>to the actual Kentucky Derby, the most exciting two minutes

420
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<v Speaker 1>in sports, like getting companies to old bed and race

421
00:21:01.680 --> 00:21:04.160
<v Speaker 1>one another against other companies like, that's kind of a

422
00:21:04.200 --> 00:21:08.000
<v Speaker 1>weird thing, but you know, it's interesting. I will say

423
00:21:08.039 --> 00:21:10.200
<v Speaker 1>this Tony Vinetti, believe it or not, he said something

424
00:21:10.200 --> 00:21:11.079
<v Speaker 1>earlier this week that I.

425
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<v Speaker 2>Totally agreed with.

426
00:21:13.839 --> 00:21:17.240
<v Speaker 1>The bed race is kind of awkward, and I would

427
00:21:17.240 --> 00:21:22.720
<v Speaker 1>have never thought, I mean it's I mean it's I

428
00:21:22.799 --> 00:21:25.240
<v Speaker 1>think it's kind of not just awkward, kind of weird.

429
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<v Speaker 1>And I wouldn't have said that had I not attended

430
00:21:28.039 --> 00:21:32.079
<v Speaker 1>the event years ago. So my wife, where she works,

431
00:21:32.240 --> 00:21:34.359
<v Speaker 1>they I don't know if they still participate in it,

432
00:21:34.400 --> 00:21:36.000
<v Speaker 1>but they did at one point, and she was a

433
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<v Speaker 1>part of it, and I think she was like the

434
00:21:38.119 --> 00:21:41.960
<v Speaker 1>one driving the bed and a bunch of her colleagues

435
00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:44.240
<v Speaker 1>were on the team and they were the ones pushing

436
00:21:44.279 --> 00:21:46.920
<v Speaker 1>it around. And just to see a lot of people

437
00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:50.240
<v Speaker 1>that you normally you know, are working with. I guess

438
00:21:50.279 --> 00:21:51.799
<v Speaker 1>it depends on what kind of work you do. Maybe

439
00:21:51.839 --> 00:21:54.640
<v Speaker 1>it's an office setting, maybe it's at a warehouse, maybe

440
00:21:54.680 --> 00:21:59.160
<v Speaker 1>it's at a a factory, or maybe even at like

441
00:21:59.200 --> 00:22:02.640
<v Speaker 1>a restaurant. Maybe it's hospitality, like you usually see your

442
00:22:02.640 --> 00:22:05.200
<v Speaker 1>colleagues in a work setting, and then.

443
00:22:05.079 --> 00:22:06.839
<v Speaker 2>You've got you know, just.

444
00:22:08.279 --> 00:22:10.160
<v Speaker 1>Put it this way, you get a visual of some

445
00:22:10.240 --> 00:22:14.720
<v Speaker 1>people in awkward poses, and maybe poses isn't even the

446
00:22:14.799 --> 00:22:16.759
<v Speaker 1>right word to use, because I'm not sure they're posing,

447
00:22:16.759 --> 00:22:18.720
<v Speaker 1>they're just, you know, like I'm looking at pictures that

448
00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:22.079
<v Speaker 1>somebody got from from the from the uh the race

449
00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:25.640
<v Speaker 1>that took place on Monday, and you know, I mean,

450
00:22:26.160 --> 00:22:27.680
<v Speaker 1>you guy, it's I don't know, it's just kind of weird.

451
00:22:27.839 --> 00:22:28.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

452
00:22:28.279 --> 00:22:31.160
<v Speaker 1>Is there's something about seeing somebody you see you've seen

453
00:22:31.200 --> 00:22:33.640
<v Speaker 1>every day at work for ten years, and then you

454
00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:35.640
<v Speaker 1>see them, you know, moving around, and I don't know,

455
00:22:35.759 --> 00:22:38.400
<v Speaker 1>just just just trust me. It's if you've never been

456
00:22:38.440 --> 00:22:40.759
<v Speaker 1>to it, I'm sure you know it's fun. It's uh,

457
00:22:40.839 --> 00:22:47.039
<v Speaker 1>it's it's lovely, but you know, just my opinion, I'll

458
00:22:47.039 --> 00:22:51.400
<v Speaker 1>put it that way, all right. So the ACC yesterday,

459
00:22:52.079 --> 00:22:54.359
<v Speaker 1>uh well it kind of officially announced it, but it

460
00:22:54.359 --> 00:22:57.519
<v Speaker 1>came out yesterday from a variety of different reporters that

461
00:22:57.599 --> 00:23:00.799
<v Speaker 1>we're discussing something that the ACC is looking to do

462
00:23:01.480 --> 00:23:06.359
<v Speaker 1>to to help the basketball side of things. So CBS

463
00:23:06.359 --> 00:23:09.759
<v Speaker 1>Sports Brandon Marcello is the first that I saw that

464
00:23:09.759 --> 00:23:12.640
<v Speaker 1>put it out there, and uh, I'll just read directly

465
00:23:12.640 --> 00:23:14.680
<v Speaker 1>from his write up, it says the ACC is strongly

466
00:23:14.680 --> 00:23:17.720
<v Speaker 1>considering shrinking its conference basketball schedule to help boost the

467
00:23:17.799 --> 00:23:21.920
<v Speaker 1>leaguess inn CAA tournament profile, and the increasing expectation is

468
00:23:21.960 --> 00:23:25.839
<v Speaker 1>it'll be done, per sources. So, uh, I see this

469
00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:29.319
<v Speaker 1>yesterday and I'm thinking, okay, this is this is this

470
00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:34.039
<v Speaker 1>is good? Meaning, you know, last last year, right before

471
00:23:34.039 --> 00:23:36.599
<v Speaker 1>the season started, I was in Charlotte for the ACC

472
00:23:36.759 --> 00:23:42.000
<v Speaker 1>basketball media days they call it Operation Basketball, and I

473
00:23:42.119 --> 00:23:44.319
<v Speaker 1>was there for the first time in a couple of years,

474
00:23:44.480 --> 00:23:46.720
<v Speaker 1>and I remember kind of, you know, on my way

475
00:23:46.720 --> 00:23:49.240
<v Speaker 1>there on the flight, thinking, Okay, I wonder what the

476
00:23:49.240 --> 00:23:51.880
<v Speaker 1>the real you know, vibe is going to be given

477
00:23:51.880 --> 00:23:54.480
<v Speaker 1>the fact that the league has taken, in my opinion,

478
00:23:54.839 --> 00:23:58.400
<v Speaker 1>significant steps back as a basketball conference in recent years,

479
00:23:58.440 --> 00:24:02.079
<v Speaker 1>and the expectation this year wasn't that the ACC was

480
00:24:02.160 --> 00:24:04.799
<v Speaker 1>gonna be that good. And sure enough, that's exactly how

481
00:24:04.839 --> 00:24:07.599
<v Speaker 1>things played out. And if I'm being real, the ACC

482
00:24:07.799 --> 00:24:09.920
<v Speaker 1>can get better next year. But how much better I

483
00:24:09.960 --> 00:24:15.839
<v Speaker 1>don't know. So I thought maybe they would challenge other teams. Hey,

484
00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:19.000
<v Speaker 1>we gotta we got to collectively get better and improve

485
00:24:19.599 --> 00:24:22.039
<v Speaker 1>to to start, you know, getting some respect back. I mean,

486
00:24:22.079 --> 00:24:24.519
<v Speaker 1>it's not as if it's the worst league in the country,

487
00:24:25.119 --> 00:24:27.519
<v Speaker 1>but it's fallen quite a bit in the last decade,

488
00:24:28.039 --> 00:24:32.319
<v Speaker 1>and other leagues have gotten better. So instead of hearing

489
00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:37.799
<v Speaker 1>the commissioner and maybe other coaches during their you know,

490
00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:40.599
<v Speaker 1>their entire experience at the AEC Basketball Media Day is

491
00:24:40.640 --> 00:24:42.759
<v Speaker 1>kind of talking about, Hey, let's get better, let's let's

492
00:24:42.759 --> 00:24:44.680
<v Speaker 1>get back, let's let's get this thing back on track.

493
00:24:44.920 --> 00:24:46.599
<v Speaker 1>It was more of a hey, what can we do

494
00:24:46.799 --> 00:24:51.119
<v Speaker 1>to to convince the committee that they're wrong? What can

495
00:24:51.160 --> 00:24:53.079
<v Speaker 1>we do, uh, to you know, get more teams in

496
00:24:53.119 --> 00:24:54.880
<v Speaker 1>the tournament? But not because like we need to get better,

497
00:24:54.920 --> 00:24:57.359
<v Speaker 1>but like we need to just sell ourselves that And

498
00:24:57.440 --> 00:24:59.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, okay, you got, you gotta, you gotta. The

499
00:24:59.759 --> 00:25:01.680
<v Speaker 1>first issue here is you got to address the fact

500
00:25:01.720 --> 00:25:03.759
<v Speaker 1>that you're the league is not what it once was.

501
00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:06.279
<v Speaker 1>To me, it was like they were in denial and

502
00:25:06.319 --> 00:25:08.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to acknowledge that the league had taken big

503
00:25:08.240 --> 00:25:09.839
<v Speaker 1>steps back. They just wanted to act like it was

504
00:25:09.880 --> 00:25:12.680
<v Speaker 1>all the committees fauled And in fact, they were having

505
00:25:12.720 --> 00:25:15.559
<v Speaker 1>Lonardi Like I mean, if you remember the whole thing, Liken,

506
00:25:16.200 --> 00:25:19.279
<v Speaker 1>they they were they had Lonardi come and talk to

507
00:25:19.640 --> 00:25:22.000
<v Speaker 1>the AC. It wasn't at basketball media days. It might

508
00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:23.920
<v Speaker 1>have been one of the spring or fall meetings for

509
00:25:23.960 --> 00:25:27.759
<v Speaker 1>the league where like Leonardi was talking to coaches telling

510
00:25:27.759 --> 00:25:30.799
<v Speaker 1>them what they can do to better improve their resume.

511
00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Am thinking, first of all, Leonardi doesn't have anything to

512
00:25:32.920 --> 00:25:38.319
<v Speaker 1>do with the tournament, and you know him having three

513
00:25:38.440 --> 00:25:42.880
<v Speaker 1>four teams in in his bracketology in late February, like,

514
00:25:43.079 --> 00:25:46.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that wasn't that far off. So, I mean,

515
00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:48.680
<v Speaker 1>I was bummed to know that instead of acknowledging that

516
00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:51.039
<v Speaker 1>the league has fallen a little bit, they were just

517
00:25:51.079 --> 00:25:54.119
<v Speaker 1>in denial, acting as if they were being picked on. Well,

518
00:25:54.200 --> 00:25:55.759
<v Speaker 1>then you then you hear that they're going to make

519
00:25:55.799 --> 00:25:59.160
<v Speaker 1>a change to the ACC basketball schedule as far as

520
00:25:59.160 --> 00:26:02.440
<v Speaker 1>how many games you're going to play against conference opponents.

521
00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:04.559
<v Speaker 1>That's that's I mean, maybe they won't say it out loud,

522
00:26:04.599 --> 00:26:06.880
<v Speaker 1>but that's full on proof that you're well aware that

523
00:26:06.920 --> 00:26:13.759
<v Speaker 1>when you play twenty league games, I mean, that's going

524
00:26:13.839 --> 00:26:15.720
<v Speaker 1>to leave you having a huge you know, I guess

525
00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:18.680
<v Speaker 1>that's I think it's four more than some conferences. I

526
00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:21.200
<v Speaker 1>know some do eighteen, some do sixteen, but the ACC

527
00:26:21.240 --> 00:26:23.640
<v Speaker 1>does twenty, and they added to it was eighteen and

528
00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:26.240
<v Speaker 1>then they went to twenty when the ACC Network launched

529
00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:28.960
<v Speaker 1>just because they needed the inventory, but because the ACC

530
00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:33.200
<v Speaker 1>has fallen so much. I mean Louisville was a perfect example.

531
00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:38.880
<v Speaker 1>They went all through January winning games and it wasn't

532
00:26:38.880 --> 00:26:40.640
<v Speaker 1>their fault, but like they got nothing out of winning

533
00:26:40.640 --> 00:26:46.079
<v Speaker 1>those games because the league was down week actually, and

534
00:26:46.160 --> 00:26:50.400
<v Speaker 1>again you can't control that, but I guess they realize

535
00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:52.640
<v Speaker 1>now that you could have another situation where and I

536
00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:55.480
<v Speaker 1>still think Louisville was incorrectly seeded this year, and in fact,

537
00:26:57.160 --> 00:27:00.759
<v Speaker 1>I still would be convinced you could convinced me that

538
00:27:00.759 --> 00:27:03.920
<v Speaker 1>the committee just flipped Louisville and Memphis and put them

539
00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:05.960
<v Speaker 1>in the wrong spot. I mean, that's like the first

540
00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:09.240
<v Speaker 1>conspiracy theory that I'm getting closer and closer to just

541
00:27:09.279 --> 00:27:12.160
<v Speaker 1>believing and not even thinking it's a conspiracy theory.

542
00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:13.000
<v Speaker 2>That's just what happened.

543
00:27:13.000 --> 00:27:18.559
<v Speaker 1>But anyways, if you are like just just next year's expectation,

544
00:27:18.680 --> 00:27:20.839
<v Speaker 1>right like Carolina, maybe they'll be a lot better, or

545
00:27:20.839 --> 00:27:23.079
<v Speaker 1>maybe they'll be a bubble team again, because you know

546
00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:25.880
<v Speaker 1>that wouldn't shock me. Duke is gonna be Duke, They're

547
00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:29.799
<v Speaker 1>gonna have talent. Louisville, I mean, Louisll went eighteen and

548
00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:32.200
<v Speaker 1>two in the league and got a two seed or

549
00:27:32.279 --> 00:27:36.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, got an eight seed. Clemson, there's no scenario

550
00:27:36.279 --> 00:27:38.079
<v Speaker 1>they're able to sustain what they've done the last couple

551
00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:40.960
<v Speaker 1>of years because I mean, they had a special group

552
00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:44.359
<v Speaker 1>that had a good run for Clemson and now they're

553
00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:48.119
<v Speaker 1>kind of starting over. Miami certainly can get better because

554
00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:52.400
<v Speaker 1>they were awful. Will Wade at NC State, I guess

555
00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:54.279
<v Speaker 1>it really depends on what kind of roster he has

556
00:27:54.319 --> 00:27:56.400
<v Speaker 1>when it's all said and done, but they'll get better

557
00:27:56.440 --> 00:27:56.720
<v Speaker 1>with him.

558
00:27:56.759 --> 00:27:57.480
<v Speaker 2>He's a good hire.

559
00:27:58.920 --> 00:28:01.720
<v Speaker 1>Ryan Odom at VIRGINI, I mean, he's not Tony Bennett,

560
00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:03.480
<v Speaker 1>but I think that may actually be a good thing,

561
00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:05.559
<v Speaker 1>just because they need some new life and I think

562
00:28:05.599 --> 00:28:08.400
<v Speaker 1>when you've got players that can transfer any time they want,

563
00:28:08.599 --> 00:28:10.559
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be tough to get guys to stick

564
00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:12.960
<v Speaker 1>around in Virginia and play the style that Tony Bennett played.

565
00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:15.000
<v Speaker 1>So again, like maybe the ACEC is a lot better

566
00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:17.480
<v Speaker 1>next year, but we could certainly be in the same

567
00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:19.920
<v Speaker 1>situation we were in this past year where you've got

568
00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:23.519
<v Speaker 1>some teams that have good records and they're out of conference.

569
00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Louisville actually is the perfect example as to

570
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:27.799
<v Speaker 1>why they should do this, because again, Louisville in the

571
00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:31.039
<v Speaker 1>non conference, they didn't have any losses against teams that

572
00:28:31.079 --> 00:28:34.000
<v Speaker 1>you would say are bad losses. I mean, in fact,

573
00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:36.839
<v Speaker 1>every team that beat them in the non conference made

574
00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:40.480
<v Speaker 1>the tournament, and they actually had you know, a few

575
00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:44.519
<v Speaker 1>decent wins in the non conference as well. And then

576
00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:46.559
<v Speaker 1>you get to ACC play and they went eighteen to two.

577
00:28:48.119 --> 00:28:52.359
<v Speaker 1>So I still think the committee got it wrong. But

578
00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:55.200
<v Speaker 1>in the real issue with the with how they seeded

579
00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:58.799
<v Speaker 1>the tournament with the ACC is that they just weren't consistent, right,

580
00:28:58.839 --> 00:29:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Like Carolina getting in is something that probably shouldn't have happened.

581
00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:07.759
<v Speaker 1>Clemson getting a five seed was it or a four

582
00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:10.799
<v Speaker 1>seed one of those two getting a one. It's like

583
00:29:10.839 --> 00:29:13.920
<v Speaker 1>they didn't see the ACC consistently right. The things that

584
00:29:13.960 --> 00:29:16.759
<v Speaker 1>got Clemson their seed and that got Carolina in, like

585
00:29:16.759 --> 00:29:18.680
<v Speaker 1>the things that they got credit for to get where

586
00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:22.240
<v Speaker 1>they were, Louisville didn't get credit for that. So anyways,

587
00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:26.799
<v Speaker 1>playing more non conference games giving you a chance to

588
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:30.799
<v Speaker 1>go out there and add more valuable opponents, meaning that

589
00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:33.880
<v Speaker 1>there's something there's something to gain if you win, and

590
00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:37.799
<v Speaker 1>if you lose, it's not really a real hit, unless,

591
00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:40.799
<v Speaker 1>of course, you know, you get blown out so they're

592
00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:42.880
<v Speaker 1>going to go from twenty to eighteen. I wish they

593
00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:44.960
<v Speaker 1>actually would go from twenty to sixteen, to be honest

594
00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:49.400
<v Speaker 1>with you. So this is this is full on confirmation

595
00:29:50.039 --> 00:29:51.759
<v Speaker 1>and it's actually kind of a mean, I'm happy they're

596
00:29:51.759 --> 00:29:53.400
<v Speaker 1>doing it, but it's also kind of sad because I

597
00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:55.759
<v Speaker 1>think if you really consider what they're doing here is

598
00:29:55.799 --> 00:29:57.599
<v Speaker 1>like they know they want they need and want to

599
00:29:57.599 --> 00:30:00.000
<v Speaker 1>get more teams in the tournament, but if everybody's playing

600
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:03.079
<v Speaker 1>twenty games, it's gonna leave you to have a not

601
00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:05.599
<v Speaker 1>not a real high ceiling as far as your seed line,

602
00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:08.640
<v Speaker 1>because I mean like the only real valuable win and

603
00:30:08.680 --> 00:30:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean like real value that that you were you

604
00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:15.000
<v Speaker 1>were getting and I guess everybody's you know, barometers different,

605
00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:19.559
<v Speaker 1>but like a resume win, a signature win, the only

606
00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:22.440
<v Speaker 1>one that existed in the ACC this past year was Duke.

607
00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:22.960
<v Speaker 2>That was it.

608
00:30:23.400 --> 00:30:25.599
<v Speaker 1>If if you beat Clemson, that's a good win, that's

609
00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:28.240
<v Speaker 1>that's a solid win, that'll you know, it has quad

610
00:30:28.279 --> 00:30:31.720
<v Speaker 1>one value. But like outside of that, what other win

611
00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:33.960
<v Speaker 1>are you getting in league play that that is going

612
00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:38.200
<v Speaker 1>to help you on selection Sunday. So you know, this

613
00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:40.799
<v Speaker 1>is the ACC confirming they realize their league is not

614
00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:42.480
<v Speaker 1>what it once was, and look, it could get back there.

615
00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:44.720
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I still think the potential is there

616
00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:48.759
<v Speaker 1>for the league to have seven, eight, maybe nine teams

617
00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:51.640
<v Speaker 1>in the tournament. I mean that that's not something that's crazy.

618
00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:54.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean we got to take baby steps, I suppose,

619
00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:56.920
<v Speaker 1>because you had Carolina as the last place team in

620
00:30:56.960 --> 00:30:59.599
<v Speaker 1>Louisville as an eight, Clemson as a as a four

621
00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:01.960
<v Speaker 1>or five, whichever it was, and they lost to McNee state,

622
00:31:01.960 --> 00:31:04.039
<v Speaker 1>and then of course Duke was a one seed. So

623
00:31:05.079 --> 00:31:06.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, this is a good thing.

624
00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>What I don't like is the latest report from David Teal,

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<v Speaker 1>who does a great job covering the ACC for I

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<v Speaker 1>believe he works for the uh well, I think he

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<v Speaker 1>retired from writing for one of the newspapers in Virginia

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<v Speaker 1>in Newport News, Virginia. But he's as connected as anybody

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<v Speaker 1>I can think of in the ACC. And here is

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<v Speaker 1>what he put out there this morning. I'm sorry last night.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, if indeed ACC Men's basketball reduces the league

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<v Speaker 1>schedule from twenty to eighteen games where you play just

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<v Speaker 1>where you're going to play just one rival twice a season.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's so I guess you'll play every team once and

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<v Speaker 1>then one team twice. Would that add up to make sense?

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<v Speaker 1>So who is Louisville's rival in the ACC, you may ask,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we really have one, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>real big on creating rivalries, but I can tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what this is the school that there's like.

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<v Speaker 2>Zero connection with.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that makes no sense if you were you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no right and we over use the word rivalry

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<v Speaker 1>in sports way too much as it is. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have a rival, what would you do? You

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<v Speaker 1>would pick a team where you have history with. Louisville

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<v Speaker 1>apparently would be paired with SMU and I just one.

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<v Speaker 1>I would rather play one of the really good teams

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<v Speaker 1>in the league, which you know, I know there haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been many lately, but like Duke and Carolina are clearly

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<v Speaker 1>going to play each other twice. N C State and

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<v Speaker 1>Wake Forest, FSU, Miami, Clemson, Georgetown, Cal, Stanford, Boston College,

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<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame, pitt and Syracuse, SMU and U of L.

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<v Speaker 1>So that is that is how they have it laid

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<v Speaker 1>out here. According to David Teal, so like SMU and

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<v Speaker 1>U of L put together just because of like being

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<v Speaker 1>you know, being outsiders, I mean, Louisvill's been in the

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<v Speaker 1>ACC for a decade. SMU's brand new. I think you

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<v Speaker 1>could put Louisville in Notre Dame together and it would

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<v Speaker 1>make better sense. I think you could put louis and

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<v Speaker 1>in Syracuse together because these are good basketball programs, like

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<v Speaker 1>basketball schools, and you could take Pittsburgh and SMU and

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<v Speaker 1>who would care? And you know, Boston College Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 1>I g I guess there's some history there just as

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<v Speaker 1>far as the two teams to an extent, but I

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<v Speaker 1>just wish it would be somebody different than SMU. But

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<v Speaker 1>either way, getting rid of the twenty game league schedule

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<v Speaker 1>what it's going to do. And I'm sure they'll have

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation with each member of the league. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing this, and that means you can't go add

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<v Speaker 1>Popcorn State to take these two games. You've got to

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<v Speaker 1>go at you know, try to find somebody that will

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<v Speaker 1>play you to where you have a really really you know,

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<v Speaker 1>competitive game where there's not a whole lot to lose

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<v Speaker 1>if you do slip up, and sometimes just playing good

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<v Speaker 1>teams and you lose, as we've learned, it can actually

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<v Speaker 1>benefit you. Like you could beat a team by thirty

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<v Speaker 1>or lose by five to a really good team, and

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<v Speaker 1>your resume is better from the loss against a good

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<v Speaker 1>team than a win against a nobody. So I'm you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no better. And I really hammered on this when

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<v Speaker 1>Louisville played them, because it was just it was all

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing. But when Louisville ended up playing wake Forest,

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<v Speaker 1>and wake Forest had a good record and they had

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean that that should have been a

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<v Speaker 1>game where there was some value there if you get

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<v Speaker 1>to win. And yet because wake Forest decided to schedule

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of non conference games against teams in the

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<v Speaker 1>three hundreds, and they barely won some of those games,

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<v Speaker 1>like Louisville got Louisville did Louisville beat a team that

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<v Speaker 1>honestly had a better Like they had a better win

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<v Speaker 1>at the time than Louisville did. And I thought wake

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<v Speaker 1>Forest had some good players, but like they were ranked

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<v Speaker 1>in the seven late of the high seventies in the net,

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<v Speaker 1>which made it a quad two game.

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<v Speaker 2>So like some of this is just like you got

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<v Speaker 2>to be smart about how you schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, I think this is good news, And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious if this takes place next year or the

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<v Speaker 1>year after, because if it's next year, I mean that

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<v Speaker 1>could give you some create. You know, we could see

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<v Speaker 1>some non conference matchups for Louisville on the schedule that

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<v Speaker 1>could really exciting. All right, stick around, it's coffee and company.

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<v Speaker 1>We're fuel about Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven

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