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You've got a great show for you as always. It's Monday,

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January fifth, and we're getting rocking a wrong with the transferportal.

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It's wide open and buy is building its staff. There

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were some attrition, right. We heard the official news essentially

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over the weekend that Jay Hill and Genaro Guildford will

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be taking their towns to an arbor. And you know,

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one of the polls that I put out from over

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the weekend, who do you blame the most regarding the

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college football chaos that has impacted our great state? Right?

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This is a marvelous state for college football, for high

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school football, et cetera. And all are impacted by dominoes

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that are falling. But what was that first domino to fall?

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Who do you put the blame on? Who are you

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most anger at? Who are almost at pod at? If

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you will, regarding all of this tomfoolery, all of the

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hullabaloo that has occurred over the last two weeks in

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the college foot world that is impacting our great state. Okay,

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and I I it's a poll I put it out there.

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You choose. Is it the man who fell from grace

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he thought with the wrong head? If you will, Sharon Moore?

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Is is that the guy who ticked off? At? Are

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you ticked off? And Mark Harlan the guy that ticked

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off and disrespected a legendary coach up in Salt Lake

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City who goes by the name of Kyle Freaking Winning Him,

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who is now the head coach of Michigan. Are you

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mad at him you met at? Are you met at

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Kyle for coming in and taking your DC and assistant

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head coach as well as your quarterbacks coach? Or is

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it somebody else? Maybe just mad at Jay Hill? Jay?

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How dare you? I thought you were a BYU cougar.

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I thought you had been adopted into the branch you

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had been, you had been grafted into the tree of

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Lavelle of Brigham, and you portrayed us judas I'm kidding Betteredcdarnald,

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how dare you? Jay? Maybe you tak Dovid Jay. Maybe

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you're ticked off at somebody at BYU. Maybe you tik

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David the upper campus administration. Give me your thoughts, give

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me your come. Maybe you took Dovid b san Kalate

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keep four k Shan raise all of the main players

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in this wild and wacky world at b YU. But

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I give you the first three. Those are the ones

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that you're typically gonna be ticked off at. Give me

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your thoughts on that and why you feel that way. Guys,

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keep us tuned in. It's gonna be a fantastic show.

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I'm also gonna get into the coaching staff vacancy's at byu.

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Who's going to take the baton as the defensive coordinator,

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assistant head coach. Who's gonna be your safety's coach? Who's

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gonna be your quarterbacks coach? Will there be more attrition? When?

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Will we finally find out the news on your coaching

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staff on this BAA Cougar coaching staff also transfer portal

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who could we lose? And why? Who's signed and who

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hasn't signed yet? All that and more here on your utah.

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Ronald the three Bad Weaver, what's up, Roddy.

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Speaker 4: I've been very happy appreciate you saying that I'm a

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it nonetheless. Happy to be here as always and always happy.

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Speaker 1: To lead block Ben. I like physical contact.

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Speaker 4: If you catch me on Thursday nights at the Creekside Basketball,

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I'm going to put my shoulder into your chests.

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Speaker 1: Whether you're six foot six six foot, whether you're a

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thirteen year old teacher geekin.

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Speaker 4: Or whether you're a seventeen year old priest. Everybody can

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get the smoking, get the business. They all have have

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transpired and had to take it. That's just how it goes.

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Speaker 1: There go Ronald and the three band Weaver. Let's also

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welcome in Hammertime show Brett always bringing the hammer. What's

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up Brett Hammer? Ron could we hit it? Freaking news?

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We got breaking right off the back? Oh yeah. Do

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Speaker 5: I'm telling the people I talked to Rider Lions with weeping,

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disliked Rider Lions because I don't know if you saw this,

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they put out an article last week saying, oh Rider

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saying after his mission.

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Speaker 1: There's school's interested. He said he might be interested.

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Speaker 5: So I went and I just said, hey, this is

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what Ryder apparently told Rivals, And I just made a

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video strictly about that I hear from Rider Lions clickbait

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Go Koog's.

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Speaker 1: So I just want.

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Speaker 5: Everyone who sees all these wild commentaries from everyone at Rivals,

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who I'm sure do great work, but I also think

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they have a little bit of a personal vendetta against

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Rider Lions. I don't know who started it, I don't

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know who's finished it, but it's been going on for

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quite a while. But I can tell the people who

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may be worried about Rider Lions going to Michigan, Michigan

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thinks they can just keep stealing from the state of Utah.

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They will not be stealing Ryder Lions because he told

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me this is clickbait go Kogs.

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Speaker 1: Well, so just to kind of give a little bit

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of background here, you mentioned on three and Rivals. The

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report came out. This was I believe on the third

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of January twenty twenty six, after all the all of

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the Kyle Whittingham announcements occurred. Kyle's obviously going to Michigan,

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go along with him that are are you know ldesh

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and have connections to to Utah and BYU. Okay, it

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is what it is. So the title of the article

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written by EJ. Holland of On three and Rivals states

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this Michigan could be optioned for top one hundred BAU

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quarterback commit writer lines after one year mission. Okay and

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so and I quote everything lined up for it to

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be the right choice for me. Okay, this is for BYUN.

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We can all tell that the football program is on

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the rise. They won twelve games this year. Coach Colodia

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Sataking just turned down the Penn State job. It looks

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like he's going to be there for a while. Being

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a part of what they are building is special to me.

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By the way, his wonderful mother and his final games

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reping the y where the BYU hat Okay, that's besides

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the point. I guess I'm definitely committed to BYU. But

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you never know what can happen. Lyon said, you just

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have to be prepared. I know coach Kyle Whittingham really well.

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Utah was like my second scholarship. My brother almost went

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there his brother Walker Lyons, who's currently in the portal

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coming from USC what will be his ultimate destination. But

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he goes on, I really like Michigan as a school

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in a program. I like the area they got. They

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got my DCJ Hill from BYU. There is just a

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lot of familiarity. And then he goes on, I think

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it's a great hire for Michigan. This is Kyle Whningham.

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He's referring to the type of football he's going to

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coach fits Michigan in my mind, the physicality and how

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they're going to play violent. Lions also had high praise

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for a new Michigan offense coordinator, Jacent Back. Utah had

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a really explosive offensive unit this year. They did really

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good with a quarterback who can run and throw the ball,

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very similar to me. I don't know him too well,

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but I do know him a little bit. I also

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know he's LDS as well. Lions is the number five quarterback,

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the number forty three overall recruit nationally. He's going to

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serve a mission in Orlando and hopes to work closely

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with Spanish speaking communities there while this while this time

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to train for football, we limited Lions is excited for

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the opportunity to fully immerse himself in the faith. I'm

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very excited to take a step back, grab myself and

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realize it's all God's plan. Ultimately, football is a big

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part of my life, but my relationship with my heavenly

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father is most important. So he didn't say like, like,

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I'm going to be interested with Michigan. This was a

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not necessarily hit piece, but this is a piece that

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he Hey, now that Michigan has these guys, are you

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open to being re recruited after your mission? These are

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the side type of questions that will be asked because

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of his LDS affiliation, And he really just kept it

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somewhat open ended. I don't think he as you mentioned, like,

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is something that I'm definitely interested. And he says it's

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a little bit of clickbait. It's a little bit of

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a what do they call engagement, not rage engagement, but

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like not rage bait. It's more so, you know, kind

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of a click engagement type of thing. So I think

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it's of intrigue. Look, he's right in the sense that

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anything can happen after you never know what can happen Klannie,

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like I think he talks about in this interview, like

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Colonie almost went to Penn State, so like literally anything

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be a part of Cougar Blue and b Yu I agree, so,

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Speaker 5: There's I think person only there's something going on between

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him and Rivals. I don't know what it is. I

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don't know who started it. But you look at this,

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you look at someone at Rivals. I can't remember the

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name of the individual, but he said, oh yeah, rder

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Lions isn't going to be signing today on signing day

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Speaker 1: Two hours later, rider Line signs. We go back to

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the summer.

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Speaker 5: Where as soon as he committed to BYU, it seems

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like he lost the star that. I don't know if

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there's anything going on, but I just look at the

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interaction back and forth and it just seems a little

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odd to me. But to your point, ryder Lions said,

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he didn't say anything weird, anything that he shouldn't said.

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He literally exists in the world that we live in,

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which is anything that can happen, and he gave very smart, adult,

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real world.

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Speaker 1: Answers to me. If you want to play chess with

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Rivals or twenty four to seven, you just say, yeah,

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my recruitment's open, and then all of a sudden you

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get that fifth star because Michigan offered. Ah, yeah, there

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it is, so if you want to play that game,

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what's going to happen after the mission because of all

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the dominoes my recruitment, and you're like, oh, yeah, Michigan

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be of good cheer. All is well in Giant or

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is it cougarnation? Because you lost your DC, you lost

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your Susan Haco, you lost your cornerbacks coach? Do you

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you blame? Let me start off with this polo day. Okay.

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The reason why we bring this up, like sometimes we

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give credit like Jack Golky. We love Jack Jack Jack

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Jack Golki. What did he do? Ky? He took the

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world by storm in an NC Double A tournament versus

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Coach Cal and the Kentucky Wildcats, and he had a

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gimmer for debt like performance in March Madness and started

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the first Domino. Coach Cal ends up getting criticized. He's

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a one and done. He has too many one and

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dons as players, and he has too many one and

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dons in the NC DOUBLEA tournament. He says, you know,

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I'm gonna take my talent, so I'm gonna go to

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the transport. I'm going to University of Arkansas, but they're

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gonna pay me pretty and I'm not in a glass bowl.

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I'm not in a fish bowl. I'm not gonna just

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sit here and get criticize year and the you out

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for doing a great job. Anyway, he moves on Kentucky

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swings and misses on some of the high high profile coaches.

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They end up going after Mark Pope, an alum that

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is supported by alums and some power brokers there, and

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he hasn't done so well. It hasn't been good. The

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last I mean, last year is okay. Last year, I

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think they did okay, and then they get to the

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sweet sixteen around to thirty two, if I'm not mistaken anyway,

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this year it's been a little bit more tumultuous trials

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and tribulations about anyway, I digress. But that started the

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domino effect. You lost Mark Pope and you thought all

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was not well. In Cougar Country, Bison, Shane or Shane Reeves,

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Keith King execute at a high level with an expeditious nature.

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They get it done literally within like three or four days.

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Announcing that k Y is coming to town, Kevin Young

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is coming to town. And then he built a robust staff,

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an NBA like staff, one of the most well re

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source staff staffs in the country, with the Phoenix and

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nutritionist Milwaukee blocks, strength, the additioning coach, all of the things,

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with great college and professional experience. They went out and

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got aged about all the things. Right, we give credit there.

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Now you're talking about blaming people for the chaos, and

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you're wondering will it get better? Are we gonna be

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thinking Haron Moore? Are we gonna be thanking Mark Harlan?

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Are we gonna be thanking Kyle Whittingham when the dust settles?

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Are we gonna get into the blame game of like, ah,

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they made us worse, they didn't make us better. What

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do you make of it? Yeah? I mean number one

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point of blaming Sharon Moore?

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Speaker 5: Right, Like, I don't think I don't think there's a

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there's it's no one else's fault other than Sharon Moore.

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Speaker 1: Maybe if you want.

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Speaker 5: I don't even really want to blame the assistant. I

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just want to blame Charon Moore for being an idiot.

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He's at fault number one. I want to blame Utah

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a little bit for not just letting Kyle stick around

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for another year, depending on what reports you believe. But

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I just don't know else why Kyle would have gone

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somewhere else to coach, So I do blame. Plus he

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just feels good To blame Utah feels cathartic, even if

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it's not true, like, it just feels good. So I'd

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like to blame Mark Carlin and the University of VIEWSA

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for pushing or I guess I shouldn't say that for

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allegedly not wanting Kyle to come back for the other year,

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because if Kyle is it. First of all, if Sharon

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Moore thinks with the right head, he doesn't get fired,

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that job's and never open. But let's say he still does.

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If Kyle doesn't leave Utah, Jay Hill doesn't go with him,

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and therefore Gennaro doesn't go with him. So number one,

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the person at fault is Sharon Moore. However, he could

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probably plead insanity on that case because he just is

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a little not making totally reasonable decisions. So if you

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want to blame someone reasonable, you could blame.

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Speaker 1: Kyle winning him. Yeah, I mean I put it on

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I put it the feet, I put it on the shoulders,

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of Sharon More, he started the tumultuous domino effect that

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has impacted our great state. But you know, I wonder

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I put it mostly on Shrum right. Yeah, Mark Carlin

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probably could have handled this a bit better, no doubt.

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But how long has Morgan scally been waiting for his opportunity?

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Like as soon as.

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Speaker 5: They for telling him that it was his job to have?

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Did you tell him too early? Because maybe you thought

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Kyle was gonna be gone a lot sooner than he was.

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And now you're sitting there because look, I understand everyone

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making the point saying, oh, well, Morgan Scalley's the coaching waiting.

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Whose fault is that though you told him way too

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long ago that it was his job to have?

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Speaker 1: So now the chicken has come to roost. Yeah, and

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that could be a Kyle Winningham issue. I mean I

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think it was a made official I want to say,

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roughly around. I mean, we knew about this through like

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COVID because remember when when Scalley gotten hot water for

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certain verbiage lexicon utilized right, and he was the head

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coach in waiting, but that was rescinded during that probationary period,

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but he got it back he earned it back through

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merit on the football field, so he got it back.

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So we've known about this for I mean five plus

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years that he was the head coach and waiting. Who's

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false that, right, It's not our fault.

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Speaker 5: It's like you can't sit there as a utah and

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be like, well, he knew he was gonna get the job,

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yet nobody told him or nobody told you that. You

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had to give that to him if you were, I mean, like,

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either stand on business and say we think he's the

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best decision and that's why we want him.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure there's people who are saying that.

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Speaker 5: But the only reason he felt, hey, this is my

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job and if I don't get it, I'm gonna leave

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is because you told him.

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Speaker 1: That was the case.

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Speaker 5: You can't tell the kids they can have ice cream

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for dinner, and when your mom your wife comes home

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and says we're not doing.

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Speaker 1: That, it's your fault.

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Speaker 5: You told him they could have ice cream for dinner,

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knowing that was a poor chase to make in.

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Speaker 1: The first place. Gary Anderson hopped onto a state a

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radio station here locally, and he said, in a tongue

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in cheek manner, you know essentially, Oh, you know, I

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guess everyone can you know, be mad and angry and

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blame Kyle Whittingham for doing all of this? Right? My

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question is this, and this is my statement as I've

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delved into the data and guess what I think. Brandon Gurny.

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Brandon Gurney and I discussed this, I want to say

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two two and a half three months ago, probably when

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the defense was really starting on the rise, and we

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may have broached this subject on the show together as well.

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But he was giving all the credit to Jay, and

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that's what a lot of the fans were doing. I'm like, dude, Yeah,

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of course you got to give a lot of credits.

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He's the assistant head coach of the DC. He's a

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great recruiter. I think he's got a holistic skill set

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that allows him to do a lot of great things

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for any football program, including BYU over the last couple

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of years. But in twenty twenty three when he took over, Okay,

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the defense wasn't that good. Twenty twenty three, it was okay,

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twenty twenty four, elevated top twenty five, twenty twenty five,

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it was about the same as it was that You're

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priborly about top twenty five. You could say the red

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zone defensive efficiency efficiency was better. Takeaways were good as well.

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So but you know that there's a corollary data point

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here that everyone skips, and I go back to when

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Jay Hill was a head coach at Weaver State, when

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he was still operating and managing also the defense. The

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first few three or four years they were okay. You

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know when they elevated their defensive play when Gary Anderson

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became an analyst at Weaver State. Those two years best

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defensive units at Weaver say look it up, Google it. Okay,

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those final two years when Gary was an analyst for

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Weber and Jay, they were great. Guess who Jay didn't

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have in twenty twenty three, did not have Ga the

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general authority of BYU's defense, right, Okay, he didn't have Gary.

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What did he do immediately in twenty twenty four? Hired Gary?

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Hired Gary when they had a down year. Look like

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I remember when if you look at that twenty twenty

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three BYU football season, right, twenty twenty two BYU fans

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just were up in arms. They hated Elisa, they hated Dad.

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They want to get rid of them, Okay, it is

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what it is. You know, they had some good defenses,

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they had some bad defenses. The bend but don't break

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philosophy didn't work well enough for BYU fans. But twenty

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twenty three wasn't significantly better than I would say twenty

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twenty two. Maybe a little bit like but you gave

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up you know, thirty one to Arkansas, You gave up

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thirty eight against Some of it was on the offense.

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You have some defensive touchdowns. He gave up twenty seven

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to Sincy. You gave up forty four to TCU, You

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gave up thirty five to Texas, You gave up thirty

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seven to West Virginia, you gave up forty five to

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Iowa State, you gave up thirty one to Oklahoma, and

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you gave up thirty or forty to Oklahoma State. That

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is not a good defense. And I know the offense

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struggle a little bit running the ball and all those things,

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et cetera. But it wasn't a great defense by any means. Okay,

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So when I'm I remember making the statement, I was

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like fire to Iyaki after like one of these games,

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and like BA fans just were like pissed. They like,

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don't do not you know, But I'm like, dude, the

468
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,279
defense that didn't really improve all that much year one.

469
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,440
That's fine. You're only as good as the people you

470
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:40,240
surround yourself with, and you do need well resource, you

471
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,240
need good is Ky why in and of himself good

472
00:24:43,319 --> 00:24:47,279
enough to coach an elite college basketball team? I don't

473
00:24:47,279 --> 00:24:49,160
think so. I think he needs this staff. I think

474
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,440
he needs him Fanning. I think he needs you know,

475
00:24:51,759 --> 00:24:54,279
Craig Manning on the mental performance. I think he needs

476
00:24:54,559 --> 00:24:56,759
his son's nutrition is I think he needs to the

477
00:24:56,839 --> 00:24:59,039
developmental piece. He needs to be able to pitch. This

478
00:24:59,279 --> 00:25:04,039
is every time such point is NBA. Well, Jay Hill

479
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,839
went out and got Chad k got you know, he's

480
00:25:07,839 --> 00:25:11,119
got Kelly, He's got he's got Gary Anderson. Why wouldn't

481
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,559
you want to come and get coached up in this

482
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,359
defensive front. Okay, we were really good stopping the run.

483
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,119
We were really good, and obviously Gennar was very impactful too,

484
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,079
and that that's the reason why Jay took Gennar with him.

485
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,839
So that'll be a big gap you got to fill.

486
00:25:25,279 --> 00:25:27,519
But Jay's only as good as his supported cast, is

487
00:25:27,519 --> 00:25:30,359
what I'm getting at. And without Gary the g a

488
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,960
right the general authority of the BYU defense. Going forward,

489
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,799
he's gonna be a senior analyst. He's being retained. I

490
00:25:37,839 --> 00:25:40,880
don't know if he's as good as he's uh as

491
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,119
he was the last two years at b YU. I

492
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,160
think Ga is a huge pivotal piece, and I think

493
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,359
all the coaches deserve a lot of credit. Kelly Papinga, Justinetta.

494
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,799
Both those guys have coordinating experience. It was the the

495
00:25:52,839 --> 00:25:55,599
collective sum of talents within that coaching staff room, and

496
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,119
that's why I think we're gonna be okay. I think

497
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,599
we're gonna be good. Will we will we improve from

498
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,960
last year to be determined. I feel pretty confident that

499
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,640
people you can be just as good as they were

500
00:26:04,799 --> 00:26:06,279
this these last two seasons.

501
00:26:06,319 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 5: Though it almost makes you wonder if Ga is like

502
00:26:14,039 --> 00:26:17,799
the mastermind puppeteer without the title, where he's like, look,

503
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,839
I'm gonna be the defensive coordinator, but I only want

504
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,519
to come into work for X amount of hours a week.

505
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,720
You guys do all the work while I'm not here,

506
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,960
and then when I get in, I'll give you guys

507
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,119
lots of things to work on.

508
00:26:29,559 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: I don't know how it works.

509
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, But when you tell that story and you kind

510
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,960
of give the anecdote of Jay Hill with and without Gary,

511
00:26:37,039 --> 00:26:40,119
and how much better everything is when Gary is in

512
00:26:41,759 --> 00:26:43,960
and we know like he enjoys where he's at in

513
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,559
life right now, gets to kind of spend time doing

514
00:26:46,599 --> 00:26:48,759
what he wants, hang out with the grandkids. I almost

515
00:26:48,799 --> 00:26:51,599
wonder if it's like he has enough knowledge in his

516
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,920
own brain to just kind of disperse to everybody, here's

517
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:55,519
what's going down.

518
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:56,599
Speaker 1: You guys, take care of this.

519
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 5: I'll be back tomorrow for my three hours however long

520
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,119
he comes in for. I wonder if he's almost the

521
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,240
mastermind puppeteer behind this whole thing.

522
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: Hey, all I'm saying is that you got to give

523
00:27:06,519 --> 00:27:10,480
credit to everyone involved whoever. That next DC is okay,

524
00:27:10,599 --> 00:27:13,039
And it looks like obviously Jennaral wasn't offered the DC

525
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,519
job or else he probably would have stayed right. Okay,

526
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,440
he was the passing game coordinator. He had been elevated

527
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:24,599
by whom Jay Hill, and so that was a pivotal piece.

528
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,400
And you understand why Gennar was highlighting the Baylor game,

529
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,799
as you know, in that final call to seal the

530
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,039
pick in twenty twenty four on the Road Crew, Wakeley

531
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,279
ends up picking it off, but it was a great

532
00:27:36,599 --> 00:27:41,119
coverage call from Jennar, so he was elevated and kudos Jennaro.

533
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,319
He I thought we should have done everything in our

534
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,240
power to retain him. But Kalani, you know, is probably

535
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,319
given the DC the defensive coordinating duties to somebody else,

536
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,279
or he maybe if he maybe said, hey, you're gonna

537
00:27:54,319 --> 00:27:56,519
be a co coordinator. If he said hey, you're gonna

538
00:27:56,519 --> 00:28:00,440
be a co coordinator and you're gonna be under GA

539
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,359
and he's you know, he's gonna be that senior analyst,

540
00:28:03,519 --> 00:28:05,359
you know, but like you're not gonna have the defense

541
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,240
coordinating role as your title. Then he's like, oh, well,

542
00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:11,559
I'm gonna go to Michigan and I'm gonna hitch my

543
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:17,079
car my wagon. Okay, two to Jay Hill, which is

544
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,559
not a bad play. I don't think there's a bad

545
00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:25,039
decision here for for Gennaro, and so I'm intrigued as

546
00:28:25,079 --> 00:28:27,480
to where BYU goes forward with their DC higher. I

547
00:28:27,519 --> 00:28:30,799
think it it's most likely gonna be I think I

548
00:28:30,839 --> 00:28:33,920
think it's most likely Kelly Papingka. I think he's got

549
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:38,640
co coordinator. Uh experience, and he's next man up. If

550
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:44,400
you look at the best overall unit, okay, offense, defense

551
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,440
and special teams over the last three years, what's been

552
00:28:47,559 --> 00:28:51,039
year over year the best unit per espnsp plosity? You

553
00:28:51,079 --> 00:29:01,160
think linebackers, well overall unit, offense, defense or special teams? Oh, sorry, Sory, Sorry,

554
00:29:00,279 --> 00:29:04,559
I kind of want to say special team. I'll give

555
00:29:04,599 --> 00:29:05,640
it to you. I'll give it to you on the

556
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,119
flip side. And that's who has been operating, you know,

557
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,319
Kelly Popinga. You can make an argument for the defense,

558
00:29:11,319 --> 00:29:13,720
you can make an argument for the special teams unit,

559
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,640
and even over the last two years, the offense has

560
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,400
been much improved. But what's been the best on average unit?

561
00:29:20,319 --> 00:29:25,799
There's a fierce competition between special teams and defense. We'll

562
00:29:25,839 --> 00:29:28,599
elaborate on it next, but give me your thoughts, cougarnation

563
00:29:29,319 --> 00:29:32,440
is does Garry Anderson maybe deserve a little bit of

564
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,799
credit here? How we optimistic are you about the future

565
00:29:35,079 --> 00:29:38,839
with Gary being retained and if Kelly Papinga becomes the DC.

566
00:29:39,599 --> 00:29:43,000
We'll talk vacancies coming up next. Safety and cornerbacks coach,

567
00:29:43,079 --> 00:29:46,240
you need to go fill those positions quickly. Who could

568
00:29:46,279 --> 00:29:48,960
be the candidates and who are we leaning towards? Coming

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at Royal Army. This saw a whole college football carousel,

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college football coaching carousel, as well as the transfer portal.

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It's spinning all of us Right round, baby, right round?

600
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:27,559
Speaker 5: Do you like it?

601
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,119
Speaker 1: Do you do you like it? Do you love it?

602
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,880
Do you hate it? Do you mech it? Well? How

603
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:37,079
do you feel about the new college football world? Brett

604
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,880
always bringing the hammer because the numbers would say, the

605
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,599
numbers would say, it's uh, it's been better for the sport.

606
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:50,119
Because I compare it to look. I feel like the

607
00:31:50,279 --> 00:31:54,200
ladies in our lives. They love what they love reality TV.

608
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,279
They love the soap operas. This is our soap opera,

609
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:04,119
This is all our reality TV show. This is our entertainment.

610
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,680
This is our guilty pleasure. It is sports, and it

611
00:32:07,799 --> 00:32:14,319
is the chaos and the drama that ensues through sports. Right,

612
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,519
So like, do you like it? Do you hate it?

613
00:32:16,759 --> 00:32:20,000
Do you love it? DM? Mech it I you know

614
00:32:20,119 --> 00:32:23,359
the mech is like, eh, eh, how do you feel

615
00:32:23,359 --> 00:32:23,640
about it?

616
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,319
Speaker 5: I will disclose to the people in high school. I

617
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,000
was roped into, uh getting into the Bachelor, and I

618
00:32:33,079 --> 00:32:35,000
wish I could say. I wish I could say I

619
00:32:35,079 --> 00:32:37,920
didn't enjoy it. I wish I could stand on this

620
00:32:38,039 --> 00:32:40,640
is at a but I did enjoy it. And I

621
00:32:40,759 --> 00:32:44,680
will say, like I've been saying for years, sports is

622
00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:46,480
just reality television for men.

623
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:47,759
Speaker 1: I mean literally we.

624
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:53,119
Speaker 5: Have hard knocks. Hard knocks is literally reality television. I

625
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,599
do think it sucks living in an era where you

626
00:32:56,799 --> 00:32:59,880
don't have a lot of continuity. That's I think the

627
00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:02,279
only place where I really have issue with this, because

628
00:33:02,519 --> 00:33:06,279
like nobody has any issue with free agency in the NFL.

629
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,839
We don't have an issue when Devontae Adams goes from

630
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,200
the Jets to the Rant or where like, we don't

631
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,079
have issue with that. What we have issue with is

632
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,799
that every year it feels like our college team is

633
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,640
the difference is different, and.

634
00:33:21,119 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: People are more.

635
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:27,799
Speaker 5: Manipulated by money than it feels like people are at

636
00:33:27,839 --> 00:33:31,319
a normal professional level. And I think part of that

637
00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:33,559
is just because a lot of this is more public,

638
00:33:34,279 --> 00:33:37,359
Like you don't know all the different companies that your

639
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,920
buddy is interviewing at and things like that, and so

640
00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:43,920
when you see things like Sam Levitt and how crazy

641
00:33:44,039 --> 00:33:48,839
that story is getting and he apparently is heading to

642
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,079
the transfer portal like three weeks before the season ends,

643
00:33:53,119 --> 00:33:54,319
and then is hold up one sec.

644
00:33:54,440 --> 00:34:00,559
Speaker 1: Are you able to hear Brett Hammer? Ronnie? Uh? We're

645
00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:03,680
just getting some feedback from from some and saying they

646
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,160
couldn't hear him. So what do you got for me?

647
00:34:05,599 --> 00:34:09,519
You got me Ronnie? Yeah, okay, you can hear it. Okay,

648
00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:11,559
all right, see we'll see if that fix it. See

649
00:34:11,599 --> 00:34:16,360
if there's an issue there still from some of our listeners. Okay, yeah.

650
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 5: I just think that the what's hard about it is

651
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:23,440
we see a lot of issues that are similar to

652
00:34:23,519 --> 00:34:26,360
this in the real world, but we don't have all

653
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,320
the knowledge that we have when it comes to sports.

654
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,239
So like we know, oh, Sam Levin took a visit

655
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,280
to this place, and now he's taking a visit to LSU,

656
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,400
and lots of people thought he was done at Kentucky

657
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,639
and apparently he's not. And then his brother's posting on

658
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,639
his Instagram story that nothing Pete Naco says is true,

659
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:42,599
and then it turns out that it is true. I

660
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,679
gotta be honest with you. From a media standpoint, I

661
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,880
find it a lot more fun, man. It gives us

662
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,800
a lot more to talk about. There's a lot more

663
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,760
chaos involved, and so from that standpoint, I get it.

664
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,760
But as far as being a fan of a team goes,

665
00:35:01,639 --> 00:35:06,159
it does suck knowing that at any point some donor

666
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,519
from another university could steal one of your top players.

667
00:35:09,559 --> 00:35:10,679
Speaker 1: I think if we're sitting here.

668
00:35:10,599 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 5: On Monday morning finding out that fall Teles going to

669
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,679
another school, I don't think I maybe feel as good

670
00:35:15,679 --> 00:35:16,480
as I do right now.

671
00:35:17,159 --> 00:35:17,599
Speaker 1: And so.

672
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:23,119
Speaker 5: I do understand the people who feel as though NIL

673
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,480
has ruined the sport.

674
00:35:25,159 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: I don't know that.

675
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 5: I'd say Nil has ruined the sport. I'd say we

676
00:35:30,559 --> 00:35:33,960
open Pandora's box and we haven't found a good way

677
00:35:34,039 --> 00:35:38,000
to funnel it yet. Because obviously we all agree players

678
00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:41,679
should get paid. The problem is we still don't have

679
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:46,360
a really good uniform collective bargaining way of dealing with it,

680
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,840
and you have guys who take money and then go

681
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,480
to another school before they've really lived up to their contract.

682
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,559
I don't know how we get contracts in the college

683
00:35:54,599 --> 00:35:57,239
football when it comes to players. As soon as we

684
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,199
figure that out, then I think this narrative about Nill

685
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,119
ruin the sport, I think that really takes a dive.

686
00:36:04,559 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: Who's in the College Football Playoff Final four right now?

687
00:36:09,079 --> 00:36:11,599
And how many times have those teams been involved in

688
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,880
any sort of BCS championship or high level bowl game

689
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:20,559
over the last twenty years? Who Oregon, Indiana and ole Miss?

690
00:36:21,159 --> 00:36:24,440
And who's the fourth one? Oh, Miami?

691
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 5: Well Miami, yeah, but ole Miss not really, I mean

692
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,360
in Miami not for twenty something years. Indiana definitely know,

693
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,920
one of the losingest programs in the history of the sport.

694
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,159
And then Oregon like they've always been a great program,

695
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,840
but they were never running to national titles.

696
00:36:41,599 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, I say it's fifty fifty percent new money,

697
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:52,079
fifty percent old money, legacy money, generational money. Does that

698
00:36:52,199 --> 00:36:55,000
make sense? We all know Miami went out and bought

699
00:36:55,159 --> 00:37:02,800
a a brand, or rather a football team and and

700
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,960
a coaching staff. They built, they built a they they

701
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,000
had They've always had a pretty good brand. They've had

702
00:37:07,039 --> 00:37:08,559
a pretty good brand. But they went out and bought

703
00:37:08,559 --> 00:37:12,320
a football team along with their well resourced coaching staff.

704
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,719
They picked off. Remember Crystal Ball from Oregon. Isn't that crazy?

705
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,639
That's where crystal Ball was at. It's kind of like

706
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,119
this Lane Kiffin situation where he's going to LSU and

707
00:37:22,159 --> 00:37:24,800
he very well could bring LSU into the College Football

708
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,519
Championship next year, right, but like Ole Misses over here, like, hey,

709
00:37:28,599 --> 00:37:30,440
guess what, like we're we're we could be in the

710
00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:36,480
national Championship as well this year without our entire offensive staff. Anyway,

711
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,519
That's how I know this is working because Indiana and

712
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,599
and and you know, new Money is essentially in it.

713
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,119
Ole Miss in Indiana, Ole Miss is I've been a

714
00:37:47,159 --> 00:37:49,320
respected program, I think for the most part, but they

715
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:54,280
this this is New Heights. Respected, yes, but they're a

716
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:59,880
nice little SEC program. Yeah, that's it. Indiana has on

717
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:05,239
ten games like once over the last fifty years before

718
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,719
signety So to me, that tells you that this is

719
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,639
a good thing for the sport. Agreed right now? Will

720
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,400
it be long term? Depending? I mean Texas Tech, their

721
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,719
new money. They're new new kid on the block. They

722
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,960
got ousted. It was disappointed. I hate it, but they

723
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,880
went out and got their quarterback from Cincinnati. They're gonna

724
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,559
be probably pretty good this next season. Anyway, I think

725
00:38:28,559 --> 00:38:31,039
it's a good thing. I think it's a good thing

726
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,320
for the sport. I think obviously it's entertainment. It's chaos.

727
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,559
You know who hates it the most, probably coaches put

728
00:38:38,559 --> 00:38:41,480
the Alabamas of the world, the Notre Dames of the world,

729
00:38:41,679 --> 00:38:44,840
the teams that were cheating for a long time with

730
00:38:45,039 --> 00:38:49,679
bag men or had their systemic processes down to where

731
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:54,079
they were able to aggregate and conglomerate talent and retain

732
00:38:54,199 --> 00:38:56,280
talent and then win championships off of that. They're pissed,

733
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:02,119
like they fallen from from the pettis the sec is.

734
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,400
So they're punching air right now because everyone knows the

735
00:39:06,519 --> 00:39:10,639
truth of the matter about the sec everybody knows now

736
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,440
the truth has set us free.

737
00:39:15,079 --> 00:39:15,119
Speaker 5: Ed.

738
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,199
Speaker 1: Ordron went on to busting with the boys, said, look,

739
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:20,360
I could coach in this round.

740
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:20,559
Speaker 5: Now.

741
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,119
Speaker 1: All I need is the bagman coming through the front door. Now,

742
00:39:23,199 --> 00:39:25,280
then the back door to the back door, like me,

743
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:31,000
come on. Everybody knows the truth. You were cheating over

744
00:39:31,039 --> 00:39:34,199
the last fifty years, especially over the last thirty Your

745
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:39,320
brand equity SEC was built off of cheating, cheating, And

746
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,000
now all they want to do is just play each other.

747
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,639
And we're just gonna play each other because we have

748
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:47,119
such a robust strength to schedule. Right, it's a cutlet

749
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,639
here in the SEC wrong anyway, crazy times. Now, I

750
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,280
wanted to give you some data points, I promised them

751
00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:01,119
I will give them unto you. So on average, has

752
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,880
the offense, defense or special teams unit been the best

753
00:40:06,039 --> 00:40:08,519
year of here since twenty twenty three, since Kilane brought

754
00:40:08,559 --> 00:40:13,719
in essentially a new staff defensively and offensively. Remember Kevin

755
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:18,920
Gilbride was was added I think in twenty twenty four,

756
00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:21,400
as it was TJ. Woods twenty twenty three was still

757
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,239
funk as well as coach Clark and so A Rod

758
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,400
got to boost it a little bit in twenty twenty four.

759
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,440
So it's hard to like grade out twenty twenty three

760
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,920
because I don't think the offense was getting as well

761
00:40:31,039 --> 00:40:34,599
resourced and as much coaching talent allocated to them as

762
00:40:34,679 --> 00:40:39,639
they should have. But what do you think's who's been better? Right, offense,

763
00:40:40,519 --> 00:40:46,119
defense or special teams. I think I don't know this.

764
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 5: We didn't have this conversation pre show, but I think

765
00:40:48,519 --> 00:40:50,719
you're trying to prove a narrative and my and so

766
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:56,159
I think my guess truly, I think I want to

767
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:57,280
rock with special teams.

768
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: I think that's the answer that I want to go with.

769
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:06,239
It's close. Like I said, dude, you compare the like,

770
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,039
let's just go with twenty twenty three. For instance, at

771
00:41:10,079 --> 00:41:13,519
the end of the season, BYU was not a great team,

772
00:41:14,079 --> 00:41:17,480
but they were decent, right, I mean they almost knocked

773
00:41:17,519 --> 00:41:21,880
off two top ten teams Oklahoma Oklahoma State. That special

774
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,159
teams unit was ranked eleventh in the country. The offense

775
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:30,360
was seventy fifth, and the defense was ninety fourth. Twenty

776
00:41:30,519 --> 00:41:35,320
twenty three pretty bad, huh yeah, pretty atrocious. Not good, Bob,

777
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:41,360
not good at all. We saw improvement in two thousand,

778
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:48,000
twenty twenty four, right, And this is what happened. BYU

779
00:41:48,119 --> 00:41:53,480
became a top twenty five team. Collectively great finish, overachieved.

780
00:41:54,559 --> 00:41:57,079
They ended up seventeenth in s p plus, their offense

781
00:41:57,199 --> 00:42:01,519
thirty sixth, their defense twenty first, and guess where the

782
00:42:01,559 --> 00:42:06,760
special team's unit was fourth? Wow? Fourth in the nation,

783
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:12,400
fourth in the nation. Okay, so you begin to see

784
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,440
the pitcher here. You can begin to see, you know,

785
00:42:16,639 --> 00:42:19,800
what went on over the last three years. Now, the

786
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,719
special teams took a dip this year, right, took a

787
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,039
little bit of a dip. Where did they end up though,

788
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,719
and was it as bad as what the defense or

789
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,639
offense was in the last few years. Offense was twenty fourth,

790
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:38,480
defense was twenty third, Special teams was forty seventh. So

791
00:42:38,599 --> 00:42:41,639
even if you combine all those, right, okay, you can

792
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,079
see how how the defense and special teams are probably

793
00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:47,760
pretty combative. But you tend to lean towards the special

794
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,760
teams unit just a little bit because they were so

795
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:56,159
elite eleventh and fourth in twenty twenty three and twenty

796
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,639
twenty four. Without the special teams in twenty twenty three,

797
00:42:59,639 --> 00:43:01,440
we probably would have been a three win four win team.

798
00:43:01,679 --> 00:43:05,400
It would have been that bad. It was bad. They

799
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,880
took a dip this year. Why did the special teams

800
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,239
take a dip in twenty twenty five? I mean b

801
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,599
Yu was in good field goal position, like will I

802
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,679
think there was a there was a combo. It's like, okay,

803
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,519
how was the long snap how's the hold? How was

804
00:43:20,599 --> 00:43:23,280
the kick there? You saw a little bit of a

805
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:28,760
drop off. Parker muffs some punts. Wasn't as explosive there?

806
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:34,199
You lost Keelan in the trans report. Yeah, you probably

807
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,599
we probably should have paid up to keep keeling because

808
00:43:36,639 --> 00:43:38,440
we look at him, look at how well he's done

809
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,559
there in Miami. He's a good player, not only at BYU,

810
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,000
he's a good player at Miami, a final four team

811
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,519
in the College Football Playoff. So we probably should have

812
00:43:47,559 --> 00:43:49,360
uped the andy a little bit and then maybe allocated

813
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,480
what we needed to in order to retain him. But

814
00:43:53,039 --> 00:43:56,440
you know, forty seventh is not bad. It's above average, right,

815
00:43:57,199 --> 00:43:59,639
But you had two elite seasons. So that's what I'm

816
00:43:59,639 --> 00:44:04,119
getting at here. If Kelly Popinga becomes the defensive coordinator,

817
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,159
can he do what he did with special teams on

818
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:12,320
the defensive side of the ball, especially with Gary Anderson

819
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:13,119
being retained too.

820
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 5: And if I'm not mistaken, Kelly does work with the

821
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,960
edge rushers as well, Yes he does. He's not just

822
00:44:19,519 --> 00:44:22,440
the guy in charge of special teams. He does work

823
00:44:22,519 --> 00:44:24,159
with the defense as well.

824
00:44:24,639 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: So I don't know he's the special teams coordinator though.

825
00:44:29,519 --> 00:44:30,679
The last three years, right, all right?

826
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 5: But yes, I'd like to say yes, and I do

827
00:44:38,599 --> 00:44:41,599
think he should be in the running for the defensive

828
00:44:41,639 --> 00:44:46,199
coordinator position. But I also wonder, and I don't know

829
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,199
the answer to this question, because I think you can

830
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,119
make the case either way, But do you make the

831
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:55,039
case and say, hey, we're a P four institution now,

832
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,639
we don't just have to hire the BYU guy. And

833
00:44:58,639 --> 00:45:01,679
I'm not saying Kelly doesn't deserve the I'm just saying

834
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,440
Alabama when they need to do DC, they don't just say, oh, well,

835
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,760
we'll just hire the internal guy. They say we're gonna

836
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,639
go out and get the best candidate. And so for me,

837
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,440
I really like Kelly. I think he could be great.

838
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,679
I just don't want it to be Kelly is the

839
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:21,480
option because he's the only option. And so but on

840
00:45:21,639 --> 00:45:23,639
top of all that, you look at the number of

841
00:45:23,679 --> 00:45:28,400
special teams wise, those numbers speak for themselves. So I

842
00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:30,639
do think there's a lot of potential. I will say

843
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,960
I really like the way that Kelly looks at the game.

844
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,760
I remember we did an interview with him once when

845
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,800
I worked at Sports Nation, and and and he's talked

846
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,480
about this a little bit since. But he said, we

847
00:45:42,519 --> 00:45:45,719
don't necessarily track, like sacks are not the most important

848
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,039
thing to us. He said, the most important thing. I

849
00:45:48,119 --> 00:45:52,039
think he called it. They called it havoc plays, I

850
00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:55,679
think is what they called where, Yes, havoc rate, That's

851
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,079
exactly what it was. And where he So he's not

852
00:45:58,159 --> 00:45:59,920
sitting there saying, oh, well, we didn't get a sack,

853
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,239
so that was a failing. He's like, no, we're worried

854
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,679
about did we create pressure, did we create chaos? Did

855
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,320
we create havoc? And I really like the way that

856
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,360
K Pop looks at the game, and so I do

857
00:46:11,639 --> 00:46:14,719
think you have the mentality to back it up. You

858
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,679
have the numbers clearly on special teams to back it up.

859
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,199
I think he could do great if he was the

860
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:24,280
defensive coordinator for BYU, But I also think I want

861
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,320
BYU to get the best defensive coordinator, not just hier

862
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,000
Kelly because he happens.

863
00:46:29,679 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: To be in house. If that makes sense, Yeah, one

864
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,719
hundred percent. You want an expansive search. You want to like,

865
00:46:34,199 --> 00:46:36,239
but you also like one of the things that could

866
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:41,639
determine roster attrition, YEP is not implementing the same defensive scheme.

867
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,480
So if you brought in Justin Wilcox, you brought in

868
00:46:45,039 --> 00:46:52,559
Tony Wite, you brought in Kwakowski from Texas, any one

869
00:46:52,639 --> 00:46:54,719
of these guys. You want to bring in Danny Gonzalez

870
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,199
from U of A because you can pay him more,

871
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,039
You're gonna change your scheme. You want to bring in

872
00:46:59,119 --> 00:47:02,360
Bronco in and all. You gonna change your scheme. You

873
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,599
get to change your scheme and you run some risks

874
00:47:04,639 --> 00:47:08,760
that way. You run the risk of losing players because

875
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:13,239
of that. So does does follow town want to play

876
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,400
in the same scheme. Yeah, Well, there's two places that

877
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,360
are doing this particular scheme this particular way. It's b

878
00:47:18,559 --> 00:47:25,639
YU or Michigan. Those are two options, right. So, if

879
00:47:25,639 --> 00:47:29,360
you're trying to retain guys and build on continuity and culture,

880
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,440
you went out and you retain Gary as a senior analyst.

881
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,559
You could give the play. You could have give the

882
00:47:34,599 --> 00:47:37,400
play called Duties to Jen r. You didn't and at

883
00:47:37,519 --> 00:47:41,599
least not not holistically, not completely. So if you give

884
00:47:41,639 --> 00:47:44,000
it to K pop, you know what you're getting if

885
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,920
you go out and get If you if you try

886
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,760
to retain or bring back Gavin Fowler, you retain your

887
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:56,559
safety room. If you retain Wesley Johnson, who's the GA now?

888
00:47:56,639 --> 00:47:59,000
Has he has he been going out and recruiting? Maybe not,

889
00:48:00,119 --> 00:48:03,519
but Wesley has been there as the GA behind Jennar Guilford.

890
00:48:03,639 --> 00:48:07,920
Maybe he retained Evan Johnson because Evan, I don't think.

891
00:48:08,519 --> 00:48:10,280
I don't know if you can you can confirm this.

892
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,079
I've been looking at social media Ronald and the Three

893
00:48:12,119 --> 00:48:15,360
Man Weaver. Has Evan Johnson been confirmed as a as

894
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:19,559
a signee? Run it back? As Isaiah Glasker said, let's

895
00:48:19,599 --> 00:48:23,800
run it back yet, Ronald the Three Man Weavi be there, buddy,

896
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:29,760
I don't know if you stepped away from the mic. Okay, well,

897
00:48:30,599 --> 00:48:32,639
I'll try to multitask on this one and get it

898
00:48:32,679 --> 00:48:35,599
out there. So that's the question, right, I don't I

899
00:48:35,639 --> 00:48:38,199
haven't seen any confirmation from either one of those guys,

900
00:48:38,599 --> 00:48:40,559
but Folatile said, yeah, I'm coming.

901
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 5: Back, which to me, that's the biggest deal because I

902
00:48:44,679 --> 00:48:50,599
think my personal theory, I think Gennaro and j Hill

903
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,360
love BUYU so much. I don't think either one of

904
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,639
them like if they could have had the prestige frankly

905
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,280
and state at BYU, I think that's what they wanted.

906
00:48:59,559 --> 00:49:03,000
But I think they both understood like dude, Michigan is

907
00:49:03,039 --> 00:49:06,000
one of the best gigs in the entire history of

908
00:49:06,079 --> 00:49:06,440
the sport.

909
00:49:06,519 --> 00:49:07,039
Speaker 1: We gotta go.

910
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 5: I don't think they tried that hard to take Folatau

911
00:49:10,519 --> 00:49:12,760
because I think they were cool with him being at BYU,

912
00:49:13,079 --> 00:49:15,800
because I think had Jay Hill said the word Folla

913
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,519
Taw would have been gone. And to me, if Folatouse staying,

914
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,199
who is a that as big a j Hill guy

915
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:26,239
as exists on the planet. If Fala Tause staying, that

916
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,599
tells me that a lot of these guys, defensively are staying.

917
00:49:30,039 --> 00:49:32,480
And the other point that we haven't mentioned why k

918
00:49:32,639 --> 00:49:35,239
pop makes a lot of sense is what's going on

919
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,079
right now. We're in the middle of college football free agency.

920
00:49:38,159 --> 00:49:40,320
We are in the middle of the transfer portal and

921
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,320
the worst thing you could do. We're talking about some

922
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,079
of these risks that you run. You bring in a

923
00:49:45,159 --> 00:49:47,360
new coach who brings in a new scheme, who doesn't

924
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,519
know the system, who doesn't know BYU, who doesn't know

925
00:49:49,639 --> 00:49:51,920
the guys who have been on your transfer portal board

926
00:49:52,039 --> 00:49:54,119
for a while, he may not be able to go

927
00:49:54,199 --> 00:49:56,159
out and get all the same guys because he's not

928
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:56,440
on the.

929
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 1: Same game plan with everybody else. And so you're sitting

930
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:03,159
here in a transfer portal era right now.

931
00:50:03,679 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 5: And if it is Telly Pepinga who gets the job,

932
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,440
that makes a ton of sense because he's already on

933
00:50:09,599 --> 00:50:12,719
the same page with everybody as far as it goes

934
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,360
with recruiting guys from the portal.

935
00:50:15,519 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 1: So let's get into this. Let me give you a

936
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,320
little maybe let's talk about stat segment or a little

937
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:24,519
inside report on the flip side. Who are the candidates

938
00:50:24,559 --> 00:50:27,239
to be the next cornerbacks coach and the next safeties coach.

939
00:50:27,519 --> 00:50:31,159
I would lean towards the defense going and I put

940
00:50:31,199 --> 00:50:33,199
it out there. You can look at all my different options.

941
00:50:34,079 --> 00:50:36,599
There's plenty of options, right. But you went out and

942
00:50:36,679 --> 00:50:39,039
got like I said, you retained Gary Anderson, which was

943
00:50:39,079 --> 00:50:45,320
a big retention act. That was a fantastically done effort because,

944
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,880
as reported, Jay Hill was trying to bring two people

945
00:50:50,519 --> 00:50:55,880
specifically Jenal Guilford and Gary Anderson with him. He swung

946
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,920
and he missed on Gary, but he got Gennaro. Congratulations

947
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,920
to him. But by you got him and Gary went

948
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,599
online and talked about this, He's like, I want to

949
00:51:04,599 --> 00:51:06,199
be a great coach, I want to be a great mentor.

950
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:07,920
I feel like being an analyst is the thing for

951
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,199
me and I want to be a great grandpa. Fills

952
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:15,960
all of the cups for Gary. Now you have an

953
00:51:16,039 --> 00:51:18,519
option to go out and get a good experience. You

954
00:51:18,559 --> 00:51:19,960
got to go out, and I agree with you. You

955
00:51:20,039 --> 00:51:22,960
got to go find someone that's in the competitive G

956
00:51:23,199 --> 00:51:26,159
six or power for landscape to bring in that's familiar

957
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:30,880
with the region and recruiting at that cornerback spot, typically

958
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,639
a double minority non LDS African American that can recruit

959
00:51:33,679 --> 00:51:36,559
well develop well at that position. And you gotta go

960
00:51:36,639 --> 00:51:39,360
find a safeties coach that can that is also that

961
00:51:39,519 --> 00:51:42,199
fits that mold. So we'll see how it plays out.

962
00:51:42,599 --> 00:51:46,159
But chime in Kugarnation, how do you feel do you

963
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,559
think offense defense or special teams unit has been the

964
00:51:49,599 --> 00:51:53,960
best unit over the last three years? And why let's

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I want to talk about an interesting stat now. I

987
00:52:55,559 --> 00:52:57,960
was asking uh Brett always bringing the hammer. He's by

988
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,639
my side as well as Ron of the three man Weaver.

989
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,880
We were discussing some of the topics we want to

990
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,679
broach today and a couple of stats I want to

991
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:09,199
bring up are football related and basketball related. First and foremost,

992
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,400
let me talk to you about most watch bowl games

993
00:53:12,519 --> 00:53:17,400
on the ESPN networks. Non CFP balls on ESPN networks

994
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:21,559
are up thirteen percent year over year through December twenty seven,

995
00:53:21,599 --> 00:53:25,480
twenty twenty five. Okay, the Pop Tards Bowl, the bowl

996
00:53:25,599 --> 00:53:29,920
game that no one supposedly wanted to watch, that was unimportant,

997
00:53:30,519 --> 00:53:34,440
not entertaining, and that ultimately led to Notre Dame the

998
00:53:34,559 --> 00:53:37,199
quitting Irish to say, you know what, we're good, We're

999
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:43,079
just gonna sit this one out. Received eight point seven

1000
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:50,480
million eyeballs eight point actually it's twice that seventeen million eyeballs.

1001
00:53:50,679 --> 00:53:54,079
We're watching that game. Eight point seven million viewers. That

1002
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:58,880
was the top non CFP NY six Bowl since two

1003
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:03,239
thousand and nineteen. Twenty twenty Citrus Bowl. That's the best

1004
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:08,880
since nineteen ninety one. Pretty crazy to see that stat.

1005
00:54:09,599 --> 00:54:15,000
Pop tars Ball is becoming the best non CFP ball

1006
00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:17,960
in college football. Alimo ball was it was last year?

1007
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,119
How many? I think? Was it? Nine point three million?

1008
00:54:20,159 --> 00:54:23,559
In the Alimo Bowl last year with BYU and Prime

1009
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,880
going head to head BYU versus Colorado, so back to

1010
00:54:28,079 --> 00:54:32,719
back seasons. Now BYU has been a part of the

1011
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:36,760
most viewed college football game outside of a college football

1012
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,079
playoff game. Do you know who played in that Citrus Bowl?

1013
00:54:39,119 --> 00:54:41,519
By the way, I don't know. Two of the biggest

1014
00:54:41,639 --> 00:54:47,280
brands in the history of the sport. Wow, Michigan Bama. Wow.

1015
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,320
I mean that's like good, that's a national championship matchup

1016
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,199
right there. Obviously it was brand base game.

1017
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 5: But when you're when you have Georgia Tech and BYU

1018
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:00,360
doing the biggest thing since that, that's pretty insane, no.

1019
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 1: Doubt about it. It is pretty insane. So it just

1020
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,239
feels good, Like, I mean, what does this mean for

1021
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:09,559
BYU as a brand, BYU as an entity, BYU as

1022
00:55:09,599 --> 00:55:13,239
a football program. It's on the rise. As Ryder Lions mentioned,

1023
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,760
b YU football is on the rise. Now, it's unfortunate

1024
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,719
that by you got stiff armed by the oligopol the cartel,

1025
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,119
the cabal. And like I said, new Money's it's gonna

1026
00:55:23,119 --> 00:55:25,400
be tough to get in unless you're perfect. It just is,

1027
00:55:25,519 --> 00:55:28,039
it's gonna be tough to get in. And maybe there

1028
00:55:28,199 --> 00:55:30,079
was some sort of bigotry, Maybe there was sort of

1029
00:55:30,519 --> 00:55:35,239
you know, X, Y and Z discrimination against BYU this

1030
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,920
year because you could make the argument that b YU

1031
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,039
should have been over Alabama. You could make the argument

1032
00:55:40,079 --> 00:55:42,360
that BOA should have been over Oklahoma, that they should

1033
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:46,000
have been in over to Miami. Right, all these teams

1034
00:55:46,119 --> 00:55:48,079
that were you know on the back end, you know,

1035
00:55:48,159 --> 00:55:51,800
I know JMU and Tulane, they were the highest ranked

1036
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:56,199
G six conference champions, right, and because the ACC poop

1037
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,639
the bed, you know, they got in or two of

1038
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,679
them got in, right. I understand all that it's contractual

1039
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,000
and they had to go with those teams, but you know,

1040
00:56:04,079 --> 00:56:09,159
by you got got ousted unfortunately, and you thought maybe

1041
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,880
this was the year to get over the hump. What

1042
00:56:12,119 --> 00:56:15,599
makes you believe, though, you know that that BYU can

1043
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:21,400
continue to play at this level this consistently and continue

1044
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,719
to maybe overachieve versus their roster because they had the

1045
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,880
seventieth best roster in college football this year and by

1046
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,880
the way, Indiana behind them, it was like right there,

1047
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,039
there's like they were around seventieth two. Indiana is in

1048
00:56:34,159 --> 00:56:36,679
the final four right now with the seventieth best roster.

1049
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,360
But what makes you believe b why you can get

1050
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,599
there again and maybe finally hopefully get over the hump?

1051
00:56:41,039 --> 00:56:45,039
Speaker 5: I mean Number one, the recruiting class twenty twenty six

1052
00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:49,440
classes crazy yeah, and you add in like guys like

1053
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,079
to pool A twins, the tight end class that's coming

1054
00:56:52,119 --> 00:56:55,639
in BYU is gonna be okay, definitely Offensively, you know

1055
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,519
your quarterback is gonna be next year, which is awesome.

1056
00:56:59,079 --> 00:57:02,599
So from and sounds like, I don't think we have

1057
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,239
official do we have? I don't know if we have

1058
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,320
an official word from LJ, but the reports and the

1059
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,920
rumors sound like Lj's coming back. So offensively, you have

1060
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,280
no issues, no holdbacks.

1061
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,079
Speaker 1: Your only questions are going to be about defense, and

1062
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,519
from what we know players wise, outside of Isaiah and

1063
00:57:21,679 --> 00:57:25,559
Jack and maybe Schmev, sounds like everybody is coming back.

1064
00:57:26,199 --> 00:57:29,960
So really all you you could get Jonathan John, Tomoy

1065
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,360
Peu back well, trying to get that juco year.

1066
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 5: Right, so you're not losing. Like there's no real massive

1067
00:57:36,559 --> 00:57:40,119
blows to this team on the field. Obviously we've talked

1068
00:57:40,159 --> 00:57:42,639
about Gennaro and Jay are gone. But if you believe

1069
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,159
that Gary carries enough weight and whoever is gonna be

1070
00:57:46,199 --> 00:57:50,440
the next DC fills that spot seamlessly, then it also

1071
00:57:50,679 --> 00:57:53,639
almost makes you feel as though, BOI, you can run

1072
00:57:53,679 --> 00:57:56,519
it back and do it again next year and frankly,

1073
00:57:57,679 --> 00:57:59,400
they are gonna have a game at the beginning of

1074
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:04,760
the season. And look, the biggest point of conversation in

1075
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,159
the playoffs every single week this year was what well

1076
00:58:09,039 --> 00:58:11,800
Notre Dame loss to so and so, but then Miami

1077
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,880
beat Like that could be what happens with BYU next year,

1078
00:58:16,239 --> 00:58:18,960
where BYU beats Notre Dame and that's the win.

1079
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:20,119
Speaker 1: That everyone remembers.

1080
00:58:20,199 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 5: And so if those things all work out and the

1081
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:26,039
defense doesn't even have to net positive, it just nets

1082
00:58:26,159 --> 00:58:28,840
zero and stays as is. Given the fact that you're

1083
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,519
losing coaches and you're having to bring guys in, that's

1084
00:58:31,559 --> 00:58:34,960
gotta make you feel really good about what BYU has

1085
00:58:35,079 --> 00:58:37,679
going into next year. And frankly, I think there's parts

1086
00:58:37,679 --> 00:58:42,400
of this team that underperformed that still looked really good

1087
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,360
and could get even better next year.

1088
00:58:45,159 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: I like where your heads set. I think the sky's

1089
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,679
the limit right right now for this bau Cougar football team.

1090
00:58:51,159 --> 00:58:54,000
It's all trending in the right direction. And so don't

1091
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,599
you know, just take hart Cougar Nation, don't don't be

1092
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,320
too down in the dubs. Is it a big to

1093
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,320
lose Jay Hill? Isn't a big loss of his Jenner,

1094
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:06,679
no doubt about it. But if BYU is able to

1095
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:12,199
uh to retain Gary Anderson, let's say the DC becomes

1096
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:14,880
h is Kelly Papinga. Let's say they go out and

1097
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,280
get Tomorrio warret from Boise State, Okay, who's the special

1098
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:22,159
team's coordinator or quarterbacks coach right there? Tomorrow? Remember he

1099
00:59:23,239 --> 00:59:26,280
he was the guy that brought Gennaro into the fold

1100
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,039
ed lamb was the head coach tomorrow. Warren was the

1101
00:59:29,079 --> 00:59:31,960
defense cordina at SEU, and Jenneral Gilfer was the cornerbacks

1102
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,960
coach at SEU Okay, Jennar. Remember Tomorrio became the head

1103
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,679
coach at SUU. He struggled a little bit as the

1104
00:59:37,719 --> 00:59:39,880
head coach. It's hard to be head coach, h But

1105
00:59:40,519 --> 00:59:42,199
as soon as he decided not to be a head coach,

1106
00:59:42,239 --> 00:59:43,559
guess we picked him up. Boys to State one of

1107
00:59:43,599 --> 00:59:45,880
the best G six programs in college football, and they've

1108
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,199
had success in the last few seasons, not only recruiting

1109
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,360
but developing high level athletes in that cornerback room. So

1110
00:59:52,639 --> 00:59:54,719
and the special team's units had its ups and downs

1111
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,840
since Tomorrow's taken taken that group over. But if you

1112
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,719
get tomorrow. Let's say you retain Gavin Fowler, you may

1113
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:06,519
be looking pretty good next season. Like the fact that

1114
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:10,400
I have this on good authority. When the Weaver State

1115
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,760
defensive coordinating job opened up when Eric Carrett took over

1116
01:00:14,199 --> 01:00:17,880
as head coach, good authority that Jay Hill and Gary

1117
01:00:18,239 --> 01:00:21,239
and Anderson both called Eric Carrot and said, look, Gavin

1118
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,000
did so much for us on the defensive side of

1119
01:00:24,039 --> 01:00:27,360
the ball. He's a star in the making. He's gonna

1120
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,320
be fantastic for you. You need to hire him as

1121
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:34,519
your DC. I think that speaks to something that's cooking there. Now,

1122
01:00:34,599 --> 01:00:37,440
did Jay Hill hire Gavin to be the safety's coach

1123
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:41,559
at Michigan. No, he went out and got co defensive

1124
01:00:41,599 --> 01:00:50,920
coordinator at Boise State. You know who's a brother, right,

1125
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,719
and so he's got ge and the co defensive coordinator

1126
01:00:53,719 --> 01:00:56,360
of Boise State head up to Michigan. That was his

1127
01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:00,519
strategic move. It wasn't to get Gavin, So take it

1128
01:01:00,559 --> 01:01:03,000
for what it's worth. I do think Boias in a

1129
01:01:03,039 --> 01:01:05,639
good spot. Let's go to break, don't go anywhere. Let's

1130
01:01:05,639 --> 01:01:08,880
talk some college basketball. On the flipside, BYU basketball got

1131
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,800
a nice win on the road that first Roade victory

1132
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,480
in the Big Twelve. It took a little bit of grit,

1133
01:01:14,639 --> 01:01:17,639
took a little bit of competitive fire and juice. They

1134
01:01:17,719 --> 01:01:20,519
had a nice victory, though I wouldn't say it was comfortable,

1135
01:01:20,559 --> 01:01:22,519
but it was a great win on the road. It

1136
01:01:22,639 --> 01:01:25,239
just feels a little bit better when you're winning on

1137
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,440
the road in the Big twelve, big win over Kansas State.

1138
01:01:27,519 --> 01:01:28,920
Let's break it down and get into some of the

1139
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:30,800
news and notes coming out of bring them on the

1140
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,800
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go to break. Let's get some Cougar basketball talk under

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our belt. Coming up next this is Cougar Sports on

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