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Speaker 1: Is that is that a real possibility and then not

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too distant future meet Of course, very different I don't

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need to tell you than California when it comes to regulation.

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They don't really have much here in terms of dealing

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with autonomous but it's a different story in California.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but California is already approved way I am always

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been doing autonomus driving.

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Speaker 1: Another there for a while. But do you need a

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separate approval.

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Speaker 2: Or right now, the approval process is very haphazard and

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sort of state by state and sometimes city by city.

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Speaker 1: We were talking in the Secretary of Transportation about that

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very fact a moment ago. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Right, So it's going to be important to have a

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unified set of national regulations for self driving cars. Otherwise

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you're going to get into this weird situation where if

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you're driving from Maine to New York, you're going to

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go through ten different sets of regulations. Car is going

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to behave differently. It's not going to make any sense.

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So one set of regulations that just like there is

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for highway driving, that's what I think makes sense for

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the country as a whole. But my prediction is that

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probably by the end of next year, we'll have probably

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hundreds of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, if not,

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if not over a million Teslas doing self driving in

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the US.

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Speaker 1: Those are not okay, what percentages those are going to be? Well,

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not the cyber cab you're just talking about on full

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self driving level four.

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Speaker 2: Un supervised full self driving run. You do not need

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to pay attention.

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Speaker 1: Right for me, if I own a Tesla and I

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have the software the capability.

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Speaker 2: Of doing it, yes, right, But we'll have a model

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which is kind of like some combination of Uber and Airbnb.

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So if you, if you're a Tesla owner, you'll be

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able to add or subtract your car to the fleet.

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So just like an AIRB and B, you could like

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run out your spare bedroom or run out your house

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when you're not using it, and the same thing will

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be available for Tesla owners. So it's a way for

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Tesla owners to own revenue. Instead of having your car

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sit in the parking lot, your car could be earning money.

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Speaker 1: Talked to you, and I talked about that a couple

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of years ago, which takes me back a bit because

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of course, I mean you remember twenty nineteen, you were

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talking about twenty twenty the introduction of autonomous And now

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you just introduced a fairly somewhat ambitious target. Why do

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you have the confidence now that and then what was it?

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In a year there'll be a million available?

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Speaker 2: Well it might end of next year, I think.

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Speaker 1: Twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, right, I think that's I mean, these things

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happen slowly but then all at once, so you know,

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it's a Peter Tiel has a book zero one. Once

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you make once you have a proof point, once you

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have it working, then scaling up is you know, just

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amount of time. So once it's working well in Austin,

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then you know, we'll make sure it works well in

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other cities. I mean there are obviously some unique cases

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like downtown New York, like you know if you're in

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but that's a highly unusual situation. Most cities in America

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are like Austin.

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Speaker 1: So right, although you can go on full self driving

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right now in New York, I mean you can obviously

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have to sit there behind the wheel, but and it'll

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do it. Oh yeah, no, it'll it'll it'll navigate the traffic.

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I've seen it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, even a test that you buy it right now,

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and the self driving just costs ninety nine dollars a month,

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will give you autonomous driving anywhere in the country right now.

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The question is when? When is it unsupervised? Right where

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that's that's where.

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Speaker 1: Where you're sitting in the back, so to speak.

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Speaker 2: Right, yes, where you're like asleep and a car you

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wake up at your destination.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: In order for that to be the case, we want

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the autonomous car to be much safer than a car

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driven by apost