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Speaker 4: six o'clock. So sit back, relax, make yourself at home,
Speaker 4: get comfortable, buckle up, let's ride, let's vibe. In fact,
Speaker 4: I just sent the daily tweet letting people know in
Speaker 4: case they forgot, which it's hard to imagine anybody would forget.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure everybody is just waiting impatiently on
Speaker 4: the edge of their seat throughout their day to get
Speaker 4: to three o'clock to have this experience that is Coffee
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Speaker 4: folks in case maybe they were distracted on social media.
Speaker 4: But I used the video of Pat Kelsey doing some
Speaker 4: kind of like weird moonwalk. I mean, it's kind of
Speaker 4: a vibe almost looks like, you know, maybe he's he's
Speaker 4: like slipping on like ice or something.
Speaker 2: But it works.
Speaker 4: Man, when you've got a team that is seventeen and
Speaker 4: two and I mean right now putting together one of
Speaker 4: the best bounce back seasons you'll see in college basketball
Speaker 4: as far as taking a team that was for lack
Speaker 4: of a better word, ass to now being a team
Speaker 4: that you know is safely in the tournament and just
Speaker 4: mowing people down like they did last night. So Pat
Speaker 4: Kelsey was vibing, We're gonna vibe today for the next
Speaker 4: three hours, so of him so much. Yeah, he's last
Speaker 4: night was kind of one of those nights, wasn't it.
Speaker 4: Like we've we've enjoyed the revival all throughout. It's been awesome,
Speaker 4: just kind of living in the moment right and and
Speaker 4: just enjoying the fact that the previous you know, nightmare
Speaker 4: is over. And man, this thing's been fun and it's
Speaker 4: been successful, and then it's not over yet. I mean,
Speaker 4: you still got March and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: But for some reason, last night it just kind of
Speaker 4: felt like, maybe it's because people were realizing, Okay, this
Speaker 4: was the second to last time we're going to see
Speaker 4: these guys, and they played well, they won eighty five
Speaker 4: sixty eight could have been worse than that. So yeah,
Speaker 4: last night just kind of felt like one of There
Speaker 4: have been many really good nights since this whole thing started,
Speaker 4: but last night, for some reason, I wasn't there, but
Speaker 4: I was with you in spirit, Austin, and and it
Speaker 4: just oh, you.
Speaker 2: Didn't no, no, not that I didn't make it. Okay,
Speaker 2: well you.
Speaker 4: Could have told me that you went, and I would
Speaker 4: have just you know, I would I would have just
Speaker 4: believed it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was. It was awesome.
Speaker 4: And like last night, nine o'clock in town, weather's not great,
Speaker 4: but I still feel like, at least from television, I mean,
Speaker 4: it looked like a good crowd comparably, you know, compared
Speaker 4: to what we're we're basing it off of, you know,
Speaker 4: the crowds this year. And of course, you know, once
Speaker 4: this team got rolling, I mean, it was it was
Speaker 4: a rowdy environment, a lot of energy from the players too.
Speaker 4: I think Cal in a weird way kind of. I mean,
Speaker 4: I kind of feel like with the mad Dog being
Speaker 4: their coach and you know, Cal being cal basketball, I
Speaker 4: wasn't expecting it, but they were a little like they
Speaker 4: were talking some noise out there, they were talking reckless
Speaker 4: out there, and it fired up some Louisville players, and I,
Speaker 4: you know, I like to see that. I mean, I
Speaker 4: think they were able to kind of extend that lead,
Speaker 4: get it up more than twenty a couple of times,
Speaker 4: because there were some moments where you felt like, okay,
Speaker 4: all right, we were just gonna kind of whoop your
Speaker 4: alls ass, but now we might actually really do it
Speaker 4: because you're you know, I mean, Terrence Edwards getting the
Speaker 4: getting the technical for just getting up like that was wild.
Speaker 4: And then I don't remember specifically anything with Chucky, but
Speaker 4: like he was he was. I think Chucky's become the
Speaker 4: guy that if, if, if if there's any kind of
Speaker 4: a you know, intense situation where one of his teammates
Speaker 4: may be in a little bit of a potential scuffle,
Speaker 4: or maybe they're just he's just having words, Chucky's gonna
Speaker 4: be there ready to to you know, to ride for
Speaker 4: for his guys. And I think that that was that
Speaker 4: was what was going on last night. The best, the
Speaker 4: best ever is the SMU game where they're shaking hands
Speaker 4: and Johnny ballgame, Pat Kelsey's son was in the handshake
Speaker 4: line and players for SMU for some reason just decided
Speaker 4: they were not gonna shake his hand, but they would
Speaker 4: shake everybody else's. You know, a young a young kid
Speaker 4: so chucky, you know, I don't know if he chased
Speaker 4: him down, but like he he made a point to
Speaker 4: walk over to the guys that didn't shake Johnny's hand,
Speaker 4: and you know he had he had Johnny, you know,
Speaker 4: underneath his basically under his wing, and was like, hey,
Speaker 4: you guys are gonna have to shake this guy's hands.
Speaker 2: And I'm not sure if.
Speaker 4: They were scared of Chucky or just out of respect
Speaker 4: because he's Chucky.
Speaker 2: Hepburn.
Speaker 4: They decided, okay, we are we we will we will
Speaker 4: shake this kid's hands. So anyways, last night eighty five
Speaker 4: sixty eight, and I feel like early on it was sloppy.
Speaker 4: Fat had himself a hell of a game. Thirty five
Speaker 4: points for Terrence Edwards Junior, seven of eleven from three,
Speaker 4: and he really got it going early and that was
Speaker 4: kind of all that was going early. I think it
Speaker 4: was just kind of sloppy, you know, guys missing shots.
Speaker 4: It wasn't as if they you know, I don't think
Speaker 4: they came out like super flat, but they just looked
Speaker 4: a little sloppy and guys were missing some shots that
Speaker 4: you typically see them make. And to be honest, you know,
Speaker 4: when Rain Smith has been the Rain Smith, he's been
Speaker 4: for the vast majority of the season, and then all
Speaker 4: of a sudden, you know, last night he doesn't play
Speaker 4: much at all, and early on he couldn't make a shot.
Speaker 4: We know, he couldn't get shots to fall against against
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh on Saturday, but that was okay, you know, Chuck,
Speaker 4: he made six in a row. So like maybe when
Speaker 4: I think they're sloppy and man, they're missing more shots
Speaker 4: than I'm used to, it could just be a product
Speaker 4: of you know, Rain not every now and then hitting
Speaker 4: two or three in a row, right, because that's kind
Speaker 4: of what he's done all year. But eighty five sixty
Speaker 4: eight again was the score and really a balanced attack
Speaker 4: out well, you know, I lied, it felt more balanced
Speaker 4: than it actually was. You had sixteen a piece for
Speaker 4: Hadley and hepburn and then Terrence Swards of course had
Speaker 4: thirty five and then Waterman kind of a sneaky can
Speaker 4: I say it, Austin kind of a weird, sneaky decent
Speaker 4: game for Watermen, Like there's no specific play, there's no
Speaker 4: stat on the stat line, but like it felt like
Speaker 4: he looked a little more comfortable and looked like he
Speaker 4: kind of fit. I think at times with Noah, the
Speaker 4: poor guy is out there to make shots and he
Speaker 4: really has not shot it well all year. One of
Speaker 4: the reasons for that is that he you know, he's
Speaker 4: got rods in his hand, but he's just looked kind
Speaker 4: of like he does like he's trying to find where
Speaker 4: he fits and where he can just kind of, you know,
Speaker 4: blend in and be a part of what they're doing
Speaker 4: out there. And last night I think was a step
Speaker 4: in the right direction to where, you know, everything for him,
Speaker 4: it kind of came within rhythm. He had some decent
Speaker 4: defensive plays and got six rebounds seemingly in like five minutes.
Speaker 4: And then James Scott not a great night for him,
Speaker 4: I mean two or four from the field, but he
Speaker 4: did miss two he missed one dunk and then he
Speaker 4: missed another layup, and you know he'll make some big
Speaker 4: plays for you. I love his motor, but it really
Speaker 4: is unusual to see a guy that will play usually
Speaker 4: thirty minutes a game and offensively, you know he's makes
Speaker 4: some good pass It's not just all because on offense. Obviously,
Speaker 4: you can be a good offensive play like, you can
Speaker 4: do some good things offensively and be a be somebody
Speaker 4: that is productive for your offense, but not because it's
Speaker 4: you scoring. So like, I think James is actually a
Speaker 4: decent passer. I think he usually makes really good decisions
Speaker 4: in the high post. But when it comes to scoring
Speaker 4: the basketball, man, my guy, he's got to be Duncan
Speaker 4: or it just might fall apart. I mean that he
Speaker 4: had a and I hate to pick on him, but
Speaker 4: he had a nice little dime from Chucky underneath the rim,
Speaker 4: and then he bobbled the ball so he could have
Speaker 4: dunked it and then just missed that opportunity. And then
Speaker 4: once he did gather himself, he did get fouled kind of,
Speaker 4: but like he missed a bunny layup. Like, if anything,
Speaker 4: the staff is well aware that this guy on offense like,
Speaker 4: if you're gonna have him take any kind of shot,
Speaker 4: it needs to be right near the rim, and it
Speaker 4: preferably needs to be a dunk, because when he's doing that,
Speaker 4: he's usually pretty good. But anyways, just some other numbers
Speaker 4: to run through really quickly here. I mean, Louisville eleven
Speaker 4: of twenty three from three, that's forty eight percent. I
Speaker 4: mean that's the like if you're making eleven threes and
Speaker 4: you're shooting in the forties, I mean that's nearly fifty.
Speaker 4: I just think that's gonna be a really good recipe
Speaker 4: for this team. And keep in mind they did that
Speaker 4: without Rain Smith making a single shot and he only
Speaker 4: played six minutes, which we'll talk about Rain coming up
Speaker 4: here a little later on. I want to act like
Speaker 4: I've got information that I'm gonna tease that to share
Speaker 4: with you guys. I don't have a clue what's going
Speaker 4: on with Rain, but obviously he's a weapon that you'd
Speaker 4: like to have as you get this late in the season,
Speaker 4: in fact, one game left before you start postseason play.
Speaker 2: But he's been dealing with I don't know what it is.
Speaker 4: Again, all we can do is speculate, but to me,
Speaker 4: it seems like it's a similar situation to Chucky to
Speaker 4: where he could play and then maybe he aggravated it.
Speaker 4: There was a play where he I guess he was
Speaker 4: trying to draw a foul and they just lost the
Speaker 4: ball right there on the on the sideline, and he
Speaker 4: kind of looked surprised in a way that he didn't
Speaker 4: get the call. And then he also kind of like
Speaker 4: the body language made it seem as if he might
Speaker 4: have not suffered some kind of big injury, but just
Speaker 4: it might have tweaked something. So again he goes back
Speaker 4: to the locker room, comes back out, and the tunnel
Speaker 4: ends up sitting on the bench. Was in good spirits,
Speaker 4: I mean to me, it really is very similar to
Speaker 4: what happened with Chucky.
Speaker 2: So pack Helse is going to talk.
Speaker 4: Tomorrow, and I'm sure he'll be asked about Rain as
Speaker 4: far as what he's going to say, not really sure,
Speaker 4: but cal I mean, they're not a good team, trust me,
Speaker 4: but you kept him. I mean they shot thirty percent
Speaker 4: from the field, twenty one of seventy went overall, twenty
Speaker 4: eight percent from three point range.
Speaker 2: They shot thirty two threes, and I.
Speaker 4: Kind of feel like even when they did score, they
Speaker 4: were like kind of shooting some shots out of their
Speaker 4: rear end, but yet again they still shot thirty percent overall.
Speaker 4: So a good defensive night for Louisville and now they're
Speaker 4: just one game away from wrapping up the regular season.
Speaker 4: They should be able to take care of business against
Speaker 4: Stanford on Saturday on Senior Day and finish with an
Speaker 4: eighteen and two record in ACC play and then, really,
Speaker 4: if things go chalk right, the teams that you know
Speaker 4: have been winning ninety ish percent of the time. You know, Clemson,
Speaker 4: they won at Boston College. I don't know who they
Speaker 4: play next. It might be Virginia Tech. They should win
Speaker 4: that one. Louislle should beat Stanford, and then it comes
Speaker 4: down to that Carolina Duke game. I don't think that
Speaker 4: Carolina will beat Duke, but it is in Chapel Hill,
Speaker 4: and if Carolina pulls off the upset, and again all
Speaker 4: the others of the other things that are expected to
Speaker 4: happen do end up happening, louisvill would actually be the one.
Speaker 2: Seed, which would be cool.
Speaker 4: But the only reason I would like that because it
Speaker 4: would mean you could claim you have a share of
Speaker 4: the regular season title. I mean, that's another thing to
Speaker 4: add to Pat Kelsey's resume in year one, he wont
Speaker 4: to share of the ACC regular season title in his
Speaker 4: first season. But also, if you get the one seed,
Speaker 4: it might make your path a little easier to get
Speaker 4: to the ACC championship game because that semi final game
Speaker 4: would be the four seed if it goes Chalk, rather
Speaker 4: than you playing Clemson, And I guess the four seed
Speaker 4: is going.
Speaker 2: To be who gosh is it SMU? Is it is
Speaker 2: it Wake?
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't even know, because right now you've
Speaker 4: got clearly the top three teams, and by the way,
Speaker 4: as of now with Leonardi, the only three teams in
Speaker 4: the tournament as of right now from the ACC are Louisville, Clemson,
Speaker 4: and Duke. So if you end up getting the one
Speaker 4: seed and you plays SMU, that really doesn't I mean,
Speaker 4: I guess technically it would probably fall somewhere similar to
Speaker 4: the quad. It would be a quad one just like Clemson.
Speaker 4: But I'd rather play Clemson just because you would be
Speaker 4: able to mean, there'd be more value there because Clemson's
Speaker 4: a top fifteen team and we know they're a tournament
Speaker 4: team in fact, looking at bracketology, and we'll get to
Speaker 4: this layer.
Speaker 2: We don't need to get distracted. I get way too distracted.
Speaker 4: When it comes to looking at any bracketology or even
Speaker 4: thinking about bracketology and then looking for one and then just.
Speaker 2: Getting lost in it.
Speaker 4: But anyways, so far this year, I mean again, I
Speaker 4: say so far as if like we've got a long
Speaker 4: way to go.
Speaker 2: We go one game left.
Speaker 4: But the acc one of the things that you've heard
Speaker 4: NonStop about the league, even for me, I mean I
Speaker 4: don't it's not been the main point every day on
Speaker 4: the show. But like we know the league is down.
Speaker 4: Louisville can't control it. It's not their fault. All you
Speaker 4: can do is play is on your schedule, and I
Speaker 4: think it's actually set up well to where it's not ideal,
Speaker 4: But it's not been as big of a you know,
Speaker 4: an issue for Louisville fans.
Speaker 2: I feel like because we.
Speaker 4: Don't care that the teams we're playing night in and
Speaker 4: night out aren't great. I mean again, you'd like to
Speaker 4: see your team challenge to benefit the resume, but because
Speaker 4: of how awful Louisville has been in recent years, that
Speaker 4: like we're still able to have last night and it
Speaker 4: really feel like a big moment because what Louisville did
Speaker 4: was really what they were supposed to do, right, beat
Speaker 4: a bad team. But that feels better and it's more
Speaker 4: enjoyable now than it usually is because again, where we've
Speaker 4: been so the ACC we all know is not great,
Speaker 4: and I just feel like if, if, if everybody's of
Speaker 4: the belief, I don't know why Louisville can end up
Speaker 4: getting four All ACC selections when it comes to the
Speaker 4: the the All League team because obviously Chucky would be
Speaker 4: the player of the Year if it wasn't for Cooper
Speaker 4: Flag right, I mean, he's the best, He's the second
Speaker 4: best player in this conference, best point guard in the conference.
Speaker 4: Uh leads the leads the conference and assists and steals
Speaker 4: when it comes to in you know, doing that in
Speaker 4: in league in league play. So Chucky's a no brainer
Speaker 4: first teamer. And I'll be honest with you. I tweeted
Speaker 4: this out earlier and I stand by it, but I
Speaker 4: want to clarify, like, I'm not predicting this happens, because
Speaker 4: I really don't think that it will happen, but I
Speaker 4: think that it should. Like I think Chucky will be
Speaker 4: the only guy to get All ACC First Team, and
Speaker 4: I would say, they might get one guy on the
Speaker 4: All ACC second team, and it'll probably be Fat. But
Speaker 4: I think if you really consider where the league is,
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, like Louisville, Chucky gets a
Speaker 4: lot of the attention for good reason. He's the I mean,
Speaker 4: he's the guy that really makes all this work. But
Speaker 4: Terrence Edwards, I mean, Louisville is now a I mean,
Speaker 4: they're a two loss team. If they win Saturday, they're
Speaker 4: gonna finish, you know, in second place and potentially could
Speaker 4: end up winning a share of the league. And he's
Speaker 4: averaged in league play seventeen points. He's making at least
Speaker 4: two threes per game. He's had, I believe now six
Speaker 4: games in ACC play of twenty points or more so,
Speaker 4: when you're on a team that is likely to finish
Speaker 4: eighteen and two and you're averaging seventeen points, like I mean,
Speaker 4: I feel like Fat is deserving of All ACC first team,
Speaker 4: But I don't think he's gonna get it because I
Speaker 4: just think it's gonna be tough to see anybody get
Speaker 4: more than one, and then on the second team it'll
Speaker 4: probably be Fat. But I really do believe John Hadley
Speaker 4: is deserving of All ACC second team as well. I
Speaker 4: mean twelve and a half points, seven point three rebounds,
Speaker 4: which is top ten in the ACC. I mean he's
Speaker 4: shooting over fifty percent overall in ACC games, better than
Speaker 4: forty percent from three point range, and he's also shooting
Speaker 4: seventy eight percent from the line. And then Rain Smith,
Speaker 4: I mean, we talked about it yesterday. Rain Smith is
Speaker 4: a guy that most people just know as a shooter,
Speaker 4: and clearly that's the weapon he brings to the fight,
Speaker 4: right Like, that's that's what Rain is.
Speaker 2: He's a shooter. But he's also just a good player.
Speaker 4: And regardless of how he's getting his points, he's averaging
Speaker 4: thirteen and a half points a game for a team
Speaker 4: again that is in that top tier of this league,
Speaker 4: likely going to finish eighteen and two, leads all a
Speaker 4: Power five players in three pointers made. In fact, he's
Speaker 4: got thirteen more threes than anybody in the ACC, ninety
Speaker 4: four point two percent from the free throw line.
Speaker 2: So again, when it comes to.
Speaker 4: All ACC first and second team, that's a group of
Speaker 4: ten guys total. Louisville getting four of ten not gonna happen, right,
Speaker 4: just not. But I really feel like this has been
Speaker 4: a collective effort. Like Louisville, they don't have a deep bench,
Speaker 4: right they bring Trey Ore off the bench.
Speaker 2: Can I give you some minutes.
Speaker 4: Noah's really been spotty because of the injury and just
Speaker 4: really you know, you never know if it's gonna be
Speaker 4: his night. Big Frank will occasionally get in, but like
Speaker 4: the core of this team, those four guys, and look,
Speaker 4: James Scott can be in there as well. I mean,
Speaker 4: I don't think he's gonna get any type of award
Speaker 4: for all acc first second or thirteen maybe honor will mention,
Speaker 4: but you know, he's been He's been pretty consistent with
Speaker 4: what he does too.
Speaker 2: And I think.
Speaker 4: Cooper Flag is gonna win Player of the Year right,
Speaker 4: like there's no I don't think there's any there's any
Speaker 4: question about that. In fact, he'll probably win National Player
Speaker 4: of the Year, to be honest with you, and I
Speaker 4: can't disagree with that.
Speaker 2: He's been very, very good. Jenni Broom's been good.
Speaker 4: As well, But I feel like Cooper Flag is a
Speaker 4: bigger it's kind of a bigger factor in Duke's success.
Speaker 4: I feel like, in fact it's happened and it might
Speaker 4: have been Behim who said it last night, which, by
Speaker 4: the way, I can't tell if I love Behim on
Speaker 4: a game or I hate him. You listened to him
Speaker 4: last night, Austin, what do you think?
Speaker 2: Like, h.
Speaker 4: Just it's whatever. And then occasionally he'll be a smart
Speaker 4: ass and it's funny, you know what I mean? Sure,
Speaker 4: like he's funny when not, like I shouldn't say not
Speaker 4: trying to be funny. Maybe he's trying to be funny,
Speaker 4: but like he doesn't give you like this orchestrated bit
Speaker 4: to like try to be funny and make make a
Speaker 4: joke with a one liner. Like he's just kind of
Speaker 4: being the old Yeah, but like he's kind of a
Speaker 4: smart ass and it works, like it plays with me
Speaker 4: a little bit. So anyways, right, shout out Bay him again.
Speaker 4: Sometimes I can't stand him and wish they would put
Speaker 4: him in the nursing home. And then sometimes I'm like, okay,
Speaker 4: I can come to me. He's got a little Larry
Speaker 4: David at him, like he's got a little Larry David
Speaker 4: that the old kind of you know, funny to him.
Speaker 4: But anyways, Bay, I made this point last night that
Speaker 4: Jeni Broume got hurt and Auburn was able to roll
Speaker 4: without him.
Speaker 2: They didn't lose a game without him.
Speaker 4: If you know, Cooper Flagg never played and if Louisville
Speaker 4: or not Louisvill, but if Duke played a lot of
Speaker 4: these A SEC teams without Cooper Flagg, they probably still
Speaker 4: win because again again we know where the ACC is.
Speaker 4: But also like, I just think he's a bigger piece
Speaker 4: to what his team does, and I think he should
Speaker 4: be National Player of the Year and I would be
Speaker 4: shocked if Heat doesn't end up getting that on her.
Speaker 4: But anyways, looking at the the the rest of this league,
Speaker 4: I mean again, when it comes to Clemson, I would say,
Speaker 4: I mean, Hunter's probably their best bet as far as
Speaker 4: a guy that's going to get first team honors. And
Speaker 4: then you've got also the big fella Ian schneid Scheifflin,
Speaker 4: he'll probably be second team. And then outside of Flag,
Speaker 4: I mean, I think you could make the case. I
Speaker 4: mean honestly I would.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't think he'll be there, but like I wouldn't
Speaker 4: be against Like put it this way, if Fad doesn't
Speaker 4: get first team, which he probably won't, I'd be okay
Speaker 4: if it ended up going to Canipple because he's been
Speaker 4: really good, and I think most people realize that, but
Speaker 4: maybe they don't realize how good he is because you know,
Speaker 4: he's playing alongside Cooper Flag and you know, kN Knipple
Speaker 4: is also averaging thirteen and a half points four rebounds.
Speaker 4: I mean, he's having a good year for a freshman,
Speaker 4: but he'd probably be easily getting twenty one a night
Speaker 4: if he didn't have you know, Cooper Flag playing alongside him.
Speaker 4: And then after that, it's where it gets interesting because
Speaker 4: guys can still be honored by the league even if
Speaker 4: their team's not great.
Speaker 2: But I don't know, like when you look at the.
Speaker 4: Leading scorers in the ACC right now, I mean you
Speaker 4: got Burton at Notre Dame certainly a good player, but
Speaker 4: like Notre Dame last night with the win, just punch
Speaker 4: their ticket to make the ACC tournament, like they've been terrible.
Speaker 4: I just to me, it's gonna be It's gonna be whatever, right,
Speaker 4: Like I feel like I'm turning into like this whole
Speaker 4: it's just weird to be in this position with worls
Speaker 4: of basketball after we've been so bad in recent years.
Speaker 2: But we would all get so worked U about.
Speaker 4: As Lamar going to win the MVP as lamargot to
Speaker 4: win the MVP and then the Heisman race. Of course
Speaker 4: back in the day, it's not to that level yet.
Speaker 4: But like Pat Kelsey, when it comes to Coach of
Speaker 4: the Year awards and these players with the honors that
Speaker 4: I think they deserve, like, it's not that big of
Speaker 4: a deal. It's not something we can control. But I
Speaker 4: kind of feel like I'm gonna be pissed off if
Speaker 4: it doesn't go in their favor and they don't get
Speaker 4: the proper accolades that I feel like they are they're
Speaker 4: worthy of. But yeah, I mean, you've got the big
Speaker 4: fellow from Stanford, who, of course is gonna be a
Speaker 4: tough matchup. He's averaged twenty points a game, rayn Od,
Speaker 4: He's he's right behind Burton. Jamiir Watkins, he's averaging eighteen
Speaker 4: and a half. But like Florida State stinks, Hunter Sallas,
Speaker 4: he'll probably end up being on there, and I have
Speaker 4: no issue with it.
Speaker 2: JJ Starling.
Speaker 4: I mean again, if I had a vote and I
Speaker 4: was putting together my first team, second team, third team,
Speaker 4: I'd have a hard time putting anybody on the first
Speaker 4: and second team that is not from a top five team,
Speaker 4: because you know that maybe they just play for awful teams, right,
Speaker 4: but also like, I mean, if they were that impactful
Speaker 4: and that good, maybe their team wouldn't be, you know, awful.
Speaker 2: So anyways, one.
Speaker 4: More regular season game left and that kind of makes
Speaker 4: me sad. But again, it's the best time of the
Speaker 4: year because next week we've got ACC tournament action. We've
Speaker 4: got i mean postseasons actually already started. There's some games
Speaker 4: going on as we speak when it comes to the
Speaker 4: mid Major tournament. So again, March is here and it
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 4: I'm going to try to do this for the next
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Speaker 4: I won't make it such a such a thing. But
Speaker 4: because we're starting fresh here, I would love if you could, uh,
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Speaker 4: it to be like, you know, like a character name,
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Speaker 4: Let's also not you know, you know, be vulgar. Because
Speaker 4: I can't read certain I can't say certain things on
Speaker 4: the radio, but I hate saying texture or you know,
Speaker 4: I mentioned the text line. But like if I could
Speaker 4: at least do something to position each text that I
Speaker 4: read as if it's coming from like, you know, just
Speaker 4: the name, then then I'd appreciate it because I because
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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's that new number.
Speaker 4: Who is Yeah, so Bert was the first person to
Speaker 4: ever text into our new text line. Shout out to you, Bert,
Speaker 4: I don't have a gift for you, but I'm sure
Speaker 4: it's a big honor for you. But Bert, he mentioned
Speaker 4: his name at the end, so now I'm gonna save
Speaker 4: it as Bert. So when I read his text, I
Speaker 4: can say, let's go to the Ellen and Federal Credit
Speaker 4: Union text line and I'll say Bert says this, and.
Speaker 2: Then you know, and then you know, who knows.
Speaker 4: Maybe if it's like a frequent texture, then like people
Speaker 4: will get to know the kind of you know, tone
Speaker 4: that you get, like everybody's you know, we still want
Speaker 4: to take calls and we will do that.
Speaker 2: But I just it's a crutch for me.
Speaker 4: I don't like saying Texters says this, because look, there's
Speaker 4: a lot.
Speaker 2: Of nonsense that comes in on the text line. Let's
Speaker 2: be real.
Speaker 4: The majority of the stuff that comes in is not
Speaker 4: something that that gets read on the air. In fact,
Speaker 4: there's a lot of stuff that comes in on there
Speaker 4: that people don't want it or expect it to be read.
Speaker 4: They just you know, want to insult me or you know,
Speaker 4: troll or or whatever.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: And that's okay, that's what it is. But I also
Speaker 4: want to give the sense that, like, you know, when
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Speaker 4: you know, I want to shout out somebody's name, not
Speaker 4: that it's going to do anything for their ego or
Speaker 4: their or their you know, or their there's no benefit
Speaker 4: to them, but I just I would rather be able
Speaker 4: to Maybe it's the old school radio in me because
Speaker 4: I've been listening to this format for a long long
Speaker 4: time and text lines didn't used to be a thing.
Speaker 4: I remember Lachlan McClain used to read emails from from
Speaker 4: listeners and that, you know, but they would have a name,
Speaker 4: and it just made it seem more like a real,
Speaker 4: you know, interaction. So if you want to text in again,
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Speaker 2: Like and I remember there was.
Speaker 4: There was somebody who used to call in on like
Speaker 4: the postgame shows only and they would they would, they
Speaker 4: would say they were like I can't think of the
Speaker 4: first name, but I know it was somebody from Shaveley,
Speaker 4: Like I just thought that was cool that like Derek
Speaker 4: from Shavely or you know, Danny from Oldham County. Like,
Speaker 4: you know, it just gives people a little bit of
Speaker 4: sense of where the message is coming from. So anyways,
Speaker 4: by the way, the first ever text that came in
Speaker 4: from Bert it was a question about rain Smith and
Speaker 4: again I don't I don't know what what he's dealing with.
Speaker 4: It's a lower extremity. One thing we did learn about
Speaker 4: Pat Kelsey in year one is that they will be
Speaker 4: pretty tight lipped. I don't think it's like super secret
Speaker 4: of stuff, but they're not gonna They're not really gonna
Speaker 4: go out of their way to give much info on injuries,
Speaker 4: and really they don't have to. You know, maybe some
Speaker 4: people believe it Tom's when asked they have a little
Speaker 4: more info, meaning coaches and Kelsey, maybe they know they
Speaker 4: just don't want to say it.
Speaker 2: But you can always just.
Speaker 4: Fall back to what he falls back to, which is
Speaker 4: I'm not a medical person. I trust our staff, the
Speaker 4: Great Kate, she's.
Speaker 2: The team trainer.
Speaker 4: And even if people don't like it and they want
Speaker 4: an answer, like, there's really no fault for Kelsey for
Speaker 4: doing that, because it is really silly to kind of speculate.
Speaker 4: Although I was selfishly dying to know that Chucky, you know,
Speaker 4: wasn't going to have to have his leg amputated when
Speaker 4: he had that groin injury, which clearly appeared to be
Speaker 4: very minor, but you know, it was a scary thing.
Speaker 4: So with Rain disclaimer, I have no clue and I
Speaker 4: probably shouldn't even know. I probably shouldn't even do this,
Speaker 4: but I am, and I'm going to on the front
Speaker 4: end back let you know that this could just be
Speaker 4: all nonsense. But there is somebody on Twitter who claims
Speaker 4: to have run into Rain's family last night at the game,
Speaker 4: because that was a real bummer. I hope they're sticking
Speaker 4: around for Saturday, and I hope that he plays. But
Speaker 4: Rain Smith had a ton of family in town last night.
Speaker 4: They showed it, and they didn't show the group a
Speaker 4: ton on TV at least not that I saw, but
Speaker 4: they didn't mention it, and there was a lot of
Speaker 4: pictures on social media of it. So yeah, I mean
Speaker 4: nine thousand miles away. That's where they're all from. They
Speaker 4: made the trip here to Louisville, and unfortunately they didn't
Speaker 4: get a chance to see Rain do what we've been
Speaker 4: able to see him do here, which is, you know,
Speaker 4: be one of the best shooters that's ever played for
Speaker 4: this proud program. So again, this is what was said
Speaker 4: by somebody on Twitter, And I mean, I probably shouldn't
Speaker 4: be as paranoid here about, like, you know, sharing something
Speaker 4: that you know is maybe not true. But again, I
Speaker 4: have no clue if it's true, but it's at least
Speaker 4: out there, and it's believable. But again, it's just not
Speaker 4: something you can clarify. But somebody who apparently ran into
Speaker 4: Rain Smith's mom at some point during her time here,
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if it was last night of this
Speaker 4: morning has said that X rays were negative and he's
Speaker 4: getting an MRI.
Speaker 2: Today and he should be good to go Saturday. So
Speaker 2: who knows if that's true.
Speaker 4: But that that to me is plausible because he didn't
Speaker 4: seem to be super injured and he seemed to be
Speaker 4: in good spirits, like he wasn't worried. Although there was
Speaker 4: a long clip and I guess it wouldn't. There was
Speaker 4: like nine to ten seconds of them just showing him
Speaker 4: with a very stoic face on the bench, which it
Speaker 4: didn't look like. I mean, he was just him sitting there, right,
Speaker 4: He didn't, you know, like any human being. He was
Speaker 4: just sitting not knowing that the camera was on him
Speaker 4: for everybody on television to see. But because I'm worried
Speaker 4: about his injury, whatever it may be, I'm thinking, Okay,
Speaker 4: why isn't he smiling? Why wasn't he laughing? Did he
Speaker 4: wink twice? Is that the sign that he's really hurt? Like,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm overthinking it because I'm paranoid, but I
Speaker 4: think him not seemingly that bothered by it. And you know,
Speaker 4: the way they handled Chucky, Like I feel like Chucky
Speaker 4: probably could have played against Miami in the one game
Speaker 4: that he missed, but they didn't need him and they
Speaker 4: wanted him to you know, I think two things. One,
Speaker 4: I think they wanted to make sure and arrest him,
Speaker 4: and also I think they wanted to potentially see what
Speaker 4: this team could do when they don't have Chucky, because
Speaker 4: you know, there may be a time in the tournament
Speaker 4: where he's in foul trouble or God forbid he gets
Speaker 4: injured again or something like that. So again, Pat Kelsey
Speaker 4: will talk tomorrow. And I don't say this as criticism,
Speaker 4: but I would be shocked if he gives us any
Speaker 4: actual update that says he's good to go or but.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe he's practicing tomorrow and they know he's clear,
Speaker 4: so then they do give us the Maybe he does
Speaker 4: give us the thumbs up and say, yeah, Rain's fine.
Speaker 4: You know, we got him looked at and he's good
Speaker 4: to go. But clearly not having him would be would
Speaker 4: be a bummer. But I mean, I don't know. Never mind,
Speaker 4: I'm just going to assume that he's fine, and then
Speaker 4: we'll we'll we'll react to something different if we learn
Speaker 4: something different.
Speaker 2: All right, let's see here.
Speaker 4: This is where I gotta I gotta make a decision
Speaker 4: here because there's a lot a lot I wanted to
Speaker 4: transition into something else, but again, I want to keep
Speaker 4: this thing on track. I want to keep the clock
Speaker 4: management in a good place. So what I'll do is
Speaker 4: I'll use the little time left here in this second
Speaker 4: segment to kind of set the table for you folks. Right,
Speaker 4: I do want to let you guys hear Pat Kelsey
Speaker 4: in the locker room after a life night, because if
Speaker 4: it doesn't get you excited for senior Day, for these
Speaker 4: for these guys, then you have no you have no pulse.
Speaker 2: You're dead inside.
Speaker 4: Also, we can take a look at sort of how
Speaker 4: the uh most recent bracketology looks, and the love fest
Speaker 4: for Tod m love fest for Tyler Shuck continues because
Speaker 4: Todd mcshaye was on with Ron Roussillo, and I mean,
Speaker 4: they're just gassing up my guy Shuck, just gassing him up,
Speaker 4: and I love it. What if he's the third quarterback
Speaker 4: taking I mean again, I say that like it would
Speaker 4: be the craziest thing ever, and I guess it really
Speaker 4: wouldn't because I think we saw all year. You watch
Speaker 4: a lot of NFL Austin, Like you could tell the
Speaker 4: guy's got an NFL arm.
Speaker 2: Doesn't mean he's going.
Speaker 4: To be a successful guy that plays a long time
Speaker 4: in the league, but like we could tell he was special,
Speaker 4: but you really heard nothing about his NFL upside until
Speaker 4: you know, right around the time he was in the
Speaker 4: Senior Bowl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love his arm, talent, I love his I
Speaker 2: love his size. Right let shuck and go. He's you
Speaker 2: like that? Has that always been a thing? It is?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 4: Like I'm just thinking, like, you know, there's he's He's
Speaker 4: got a fun name to where like if somebody does
Speaker 4: draft him and he becomes the guy because of an
Speaker 4: injury or something like, and he starts winning, like, there'll
Speaker 4: be something similar to that that that a franchise is
Speaker 4: going to use, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and yeah and over the I've seen one we
Speaker 5: got two words for you, shuck it.
Speaker 2: Oh. I like that, the degeneration X one. That had
Speaker 2: to be another thing. Yeah, it's his brand.
Speaker 5: And aside from not only is shuck a shuck get
Speaker 5: in love, but it's they're also showing love to just
Speaker 5: the development nature of Louisville football and Brian Bram and
Speaker 5: Jeff Brahm and what they've been able to do.
Speaker 2: With quarterback quarterback factory. Let's be really I look at it.
Speaker 5: So that's awesome. It's great that he's gonna do what
Speaker 5: he's got to do. It seems like everyone's also at
Speaker 5: the same time when they're falling in love with him,
Speaker 5: he's also falling in love with Jackson Dart too. So
Speaker 5: I've seen a lot where he's more like Jackson dork
Speaker 5: Jackson farts. That's a childish one. But we're killing it today.
Speaker 5: Our stand up sets tonight across the hall at thatcher Is.
Speaker 5: There's still a comedy club here at Forstree. I thought
Speaker 5: there was maybe they closed down already. Out they're renovating
Speaker 5: the gardens just for us.
Speaker 2: Good stuff.
Speaker 4: All right, One other thing I'll get to this will
Speaker 4: be for the four o'clock hour, because you know, Kentucky
Speaker 4: is still in a really good position to get a
Speaker 4: three seed in the tournament. Like they their resume, we
Speaker 4: know what it is. They've got a bunch of really
Speaker 4: good wins even though they don't have Jackson Robinson. They've
Speaker 4: also shown that without him they've been able to beat
Speaker 4: some good teams. So don't I don't feel like their
Speaker 4: fans are not excited about a potential March run. But
Speaker 4: they've just had a lot of losses and again most
Speaker 4: of them, in fact, nearly all of them have been
Speaker 4: to good teams. But there was a college basketball podcast
Speaker 4: that I really liked that said something about Kentucky as
Speaker 4: far as if they do this, then they should just
Speaker 4: be happy and over the moon. About year one with
Speaker 4: Mark Pope, and I kind of feel like I understand
Speaker 4: why the podcast host was saying that, but I also
Speaker 4: just can't imagine Kentucky fans viewing it the way he
Speaker 4: laid it out. So again we're loaded the rest of
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Speaker 4: We were wrapping up the three o'clock hour here on
Speaker 4: a beautiful, cold, but beautiful Thursday afternoon. At least the
Speaker 4: sun came out and it warmed up enough to where
Speaker 4: that snow that was on everybody's roofs melted. I mean,
Speaker 4: I know yesterday when we left, did you know it
Speaker 4: was snowing outside Austin? I was, I mean, I guess.
Speaker 4: I mean I did mention during the show, like, hey,
Speaker 4: there's something falling from the sky and it's not rained.
Speaker 4: So it also just didn't seem like I just felt
Speaker 4: like the snow was probably going to be over for us,
Speaker 4: But no, we had some some dustings of snow that
Speaker 4: happened overnight, and sure enough woke up this morning, looked
Speaker 4: outside and all my name. You know, I guess just
Speaker 4: because of the substance of it, and of course I
Speaker 4: guess the temperatures not being super cold, like it just
Speaker 4: stuck to like certain areas like little crevice's in your
Speaker 4: in your driveway, that kind of stuff, and of course roofs.
Speaker 4: But yeah, at least it's sonny and that that helps
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Speaker 4: I'm sure he's gonna add that to like his LinkedIn profile,
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Speaker 4: So Jay billis he said something the other night on
Speaker 4: the call with the Alabama Florida game, which was a
Speaker 4: great game, by the way, In fact, was that last night?
Speaker 4: Yet it was last night and Florida, I mean they
Speaker 4: may be the best team in the country when it's
Speaker 4: all said and done. I mean, I know it's just
Speaker 4: one game, and you know they're beatable, they've been beat
Speaker 4: but the way they played Alabama, I mean it was
Speaker 4: to nerd out a little bit. On basketball, Alabama clearly.
Speaker 2: Wants to run.
Speaker 4: They want as many possessions as possible, they want to
Speaker 4: shoot as many threes. Natos has a formula very similar
Speaker 4: actually to what both Mark Pope and Pat Kelsey like
Speaker 4: to do, which is, hey, we want in rhythm threes.
Speaker 4: We want free throws, or we want shots around the rim,
Speaker 4: and we'll play a style that's going to generate as
Speaker 4: many possessions as possible so we can get potentially as
Speaker 4: many of those three things as possible. So Florida they
Speaker 4: like to play that way as well, right, I mean
Speaker 4: when Florida lost to Kentucky and Rup earlier this year,
Speaker 4: I feel like that was last time Kentucky was fully healthy.
Speaker 4: That was really just a shootout, like that was just okay,
Speaker 4: Like you know, back and forth, back and forth, back
Speaker 4: and forth, and Kentucky and winning, which again was a
Speaker 4: huge win for him. But last night Florida and sorry,
Speaker 4: I get distracted here text lines distracted me. I apologize,
Speaker 4: it's my fault, but they're coming in and I it
Speaker 4: makes me happy. But anyways, last night it was clear
Speaker 4: Florida was going to not let Alabama play as up
Speaker 4: tempo as they wanted and really just kind of forced
Speaker 4: them to be. It's not ground, it's not slowing it
Speaker 4: down and you know, burning out the shot clock, but
Speaker 4: it's just making them get whatever they get in the
Speaker 4: half court. Don't let them, you know, generate an easier
Speaker 4: said than done. I'm sure Alabama was able to still
Speaker 4: get some shots in rhythm and transition and you know,
Speaker 4: try to dictate the.
Speaker 2: Pace a little bit.
Speaker 4: But overall, Florida was effective and okay, we're gonna we
Speaker 4: like our chances here to slow it down and play
Speaker 4: you in the half court more so than up tempo,
Speaker 4: and they dominated. So, you know, Auburn, Duke, Florida, Houston.
Speaker 4: I feel like those are probably the best teams in
Speaker 4: college basketball right now. But anyways, Billis last night he
Speaker 4: talked about college back basketball needing to go to four
Speaker 4: quarters instead of two halves, and I'll let you guys
Speaker 4: hear his reasoning behind that.
Speaker 2: Let's see, here we go, where the hell is it?
Speaker 3: Here we go?
Speaker 6: But the rules that need to change. We need to
Speaker 6: go to quarters, and we're the only game of basketball
Speaker 6: played in the world that doesn't have quarters. Men's college basketball.
Speaker 6: And the reason I like it is you can reset
Speaker 6: team files at the end of the first and third quarters.
Speaker 3: It's just a.
Speaker 6: Smart thing to do. And we have to change the
Speaker 6: replay rules. Make it like the NBA give each team
Speaker 6: one challenge. If they get their first one right, they
Speaker 6: keep it for one more and then that's a it.
Speaker 6: Because we're the referees, and it's not their fault, it's
Speaker 6: the rule. They spend more time watching TV than they
Speaker 6: do officiating the game, but the rules that need to
Speaker 6: do so.
Speaker 4: I didn't even realize he was going to throw in
Speaker 4: the whole thing about the reviews, which I totally agree with,
Speaker 4: because you could only go review certain things, not everything,
Speaker 4: and you can interview everything, I guess at least mostly
Speaker 4: everything under two minutes. Therefore, when you only allow the
Speaker 4: everything gets reviewed under two minutes, you're you're you're you're
Speaker 4: making it clear that they're gonna get calls wrong, that
Speaker 4: if they did go look at the monitor, they could
Speaker 4: then change it. But you're only allowing it towards the
Speaker 4: end of the game. So you know, to me, that
Speaker 4: makes it to where, yeah, let's just live in reality
Speaker 4: where refs are going to make mistakes. Refs are gonna
Speaker 4: get calls wrong and that's just part of sports. And
Speaker 4: you get one challenge to let them go under the
Speaker 4: hood essentially and see if they made the right call
Speaker 4: and if if you get it, if you get it
Speaker 4: right and they were wrong, you you maintain that challenge,
Speaker 4: like I think, that's that's that's a no brainer. Now
Speaker 4: when it comes to the quarters. I'll just ask you,
Speaker 4: do you have do you have a care in the world?
Speaker 2: Like did would would it? Would it make any difference.
Speaker 4: To you at all if college basketball instead of two
Speaker 4: twenty minute halves they went four quarters.
Speaker 2: No, it doesn't make any difference to me.
Speaker 4: I I I agree, although as a college basketball purist,
Speaker 4: I do like that. It's like, you know, it's the
Speaker 4: only place we don't have four cools? Okay, but I
Speaker 4: think what's wrong with that? Like, I think that makes
Speaker 4: it unique. I think I think college basketball like is
Speaker 4: special and is different in a variety of ways. And
Speaker 4: I'm somebody that It's not that I fear change. It's
Speaker 4: just like I see no real reason to do it.
Speaker 4: If they did it, I would get used to it
Speaker 4: and it would be fine. But I've just you know,
Speaker 4: two twenty minute halves, that's what I think of when
Speaker 4: I think a college basketball.
Speaker 2: It would really still be the same amount of time.
Speaker 4: You just would have a break and you would split
Speaker 4: up the you know, you'd split up the bonuses would
Speaker 4: be different, as he mentioned. So you know, if they
Speaker 4: do it, I'll be fine, But like I wouldn't push
Speaker 4: for it because I don't really think there's any harm
Speaker 4: in the way it is. And I like that college
Speaker 4: basketball is now the only I mean, it's the only sport.
Speaker 4: It's the only level of basketball really at any level
Speaker 4: that that that that has two haves rather than quarters.
Speaker 2: So are you a big Billis guy? You love Jay Billis.
Speaker 2: It seems like you're kind of like indifferent on them.
Speaker 4: I that's a great question. I like, I think Jay
Speaker 4: Billis is good at what he does. I think he
Speaker 4: I think he's great. As far as an analyst, he's uh,
Speaker 4: he's he's different enough. I wouldn't say like there's others
Speaker 4: that are like him. He's not, you know, just your
Speaker 4: run of the mill analyst that's talking ball. He's got
Speaker 4: some personality. He can be funny, I think, I think.
Speaker 2: As put it this way.
Speaker 4: Yes, However, as Billis has gotten older, he's kind of
Speaker 4: become not get off my lawn guy, but not far
Speaker 4: from it. Like, you know, we like that you will
Speaker 4: say that refs are bad at times.
Speaker 2: We like that you.
Speaker 4: Would really really really hate the NC double A and
Speaker 4: like to to say that a lot.
Speaker 2: But like sometimes like we get it, Broa, we has
Speaker 2: gone old. We totally get it.
Speaker 4: So, yes, comparatively speaking, he's he's one of the best,
Speaker 4: if not the best, but like he's just kind of
Speaker 4: you know, like give me more young j Z lyrics
Speaker 4: unless complaining about the NC double A. Gotta go to work, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I gotta go to work, and we got to go
Speaker 4: to break. We got two hours left stick around. A
Speaker 4: lot more to get into, including Terry Miners. Had Josh
Speaker 4: Hurt on yesterday, and I want you guys to hear
Speaker 4: Josh Hurt talk about his man Pat Kelsey, and you
Speaker 4: know he did.
Speaker 2: He did get asked about Pat
Speaker 4: Getting a new deal, and we'll let you hear what
Speaker 4: he had to say right here on Sports Talk seven
Speaker 4: ninety mm hmm