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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray on w BZY, Boston's

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<v Speaker 1>news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks very much, Nicole. Nice to be back off for

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<v Speaker 2>a few days around the holiday weekend. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>thank Gary Tangway in Morgan White for sitting in and

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<v Speaker 2>allowing me to spend a little bit of time away

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<v Speaker 2>from the microphone. But I am back. We'll be back tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>Tomorrow night, and on Friday night and then all of

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<v Speaker 2>next week. So a you're gonna get me for the

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<v Speaker 2>next week and a half, that is for sure. Buckle up.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a lot coming up tonight. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>my name is Dan Ray and the host of the show,

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<v Speaker 2>for whom the show is aptly named Knight's Side with

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Ray. Just to give you a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a sense of what we're going to be doing later

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<v Speaker 2>on tonight, I'm going to talk about it looks like

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<v Speaker 2>a mayoral race here in Boston, and it looks as

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<v Speaker 2>if Josh Kraft, son of the New England Patriots owner

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<v Speaker 2>Robert Craft may very soon preps even as early as February,

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<v Speaker 2>announced that he will be a candidate for mayor here

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<v Speaker 2>in Boston against Mayor Michelle wo So that gives us

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<v Speaker 2>something to talk about for the balance of twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 2>or at least too early November, and then later on tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>beginning I'm guessing around ten o'clock, we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the executive orders issued by President Trump in the

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<v Speaker 2>last couple of days. As I kind of mention it,

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<v Speaker 2>the good, the bad, and the questionable. So there are

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<v Speaker 2>some which I think will long overdue and some which

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're a little bit of an overreach. But

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<v Speaker 2>we'll get to all of that during the nine o'clock,

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<v Speaker 2>ten o'clock at eleven o'clock hours. This hour, we have

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<v Speaker 2>four guests here on the night Side News Update, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to start off with Candace Lightner. She's the

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<v Speaker 2>founder and president of an organization called We Save Lives,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's sort of a subtitle here ending the backseat

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<v Speaker 2>driver stigma. Welcome Candace Lightner to Night's Eide. How are

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<v Speaker 2>you this evening.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm fine, and thank you for having me very well.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, first of all, I'm a bit of a back

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<v Speaker 2>seat driver, but I don't think that's the back seat

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<v Speaker 2>driver you're talking about. If I'm sitting on the passenger side,

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<v Speaker 2>I like to help the driver. I like to when

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<v Speaker 2>we're at an intersection, I like to check the ride

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<v Speaker 2>and tell my wife or whomever I'm driving with, you're

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<v Speaker 2>all clear, Oh there's two cars coming or whatever. So

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, but that's really not what you're talking about here.

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<v Speaker 2>You're talking about speaking up to save lives. Tell us

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<v Speaker 2>about your program We Save Lives.

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<v Speaker 3>We launched National Passenger Safety Week several years ago as

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<v Speaker 3>a result of my giving up my car and becoming

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<v Speaker 3>a passenger. And when I did, I realized that, oh

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<v Speaker 3>my gosh, I have to start setting boundaries for drivers

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<v Speaker 3>so that people know not to use their cell phones Bluetooth.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to do this with friends, taxi drivers, and

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<v Speaker 3>it occurred to me after doing this for a while, see,

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder how many other people think to do this too,

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<v Speaker 3>because in reality, it could save your life. And so

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<v Speaker 3>I just became so interested and passionate I still am

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<v Speaker 3>about the issue of passenger safety that I was able

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<v Speaker 3>to put together a great group of organizations, more than

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<v Speaker 3>sixty and we launched this which is now recognized by

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<v Speaker 3>the National Highway Traffic Safety Association and it's called National

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<v Speaker 3>Passenger Safety Week. You're right, we want passengers, Yeah, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Said, I just want to go catch something here. You

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<v Speaker 2>said that you gave up your right to drive. Did

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<v Speaker 2>you have some sort of you sound quite young. Did

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<v Speaker 2>you have some sort of a medical issue that or

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<v Speaker 2>did you do this voluntarily? Or did you get tired

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<v Speaker 2>of driving?

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<v Speaker 3>What was it that's recorded?

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<v Speaker 4>I know?

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<v Speaker 3>I actually was in a crash before this with a

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<v Speaker 3>distracted driver totaled both of our cars and broke back.

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<v Speaker 3>And so as a result of that, I decided to

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<v Speaker 3>give up my car for a period of time. Actually

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<v Speaker 3>I gave it up for about three years, and I

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<v Speaker 3>actually just bought another one about a year ago. But

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<v Speaker 3>during that three years I became a passenger. And you

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<v Speaker 3>really don't think about what the driver is doing until

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<v Speaker 3>you become a passenger as often and as long as

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<v Speaker 3>I did. And I'll tell you, though, the thing that

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<v Speaker 3>ask them how many of you had written in the

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<v Speaker 3>car with somebody who's drunk, and so hardly anybody would

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<v Speaker 3>raise their hands. And then I'd say what about if

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<v Speaker 3>they're drugged? And they'd say, well, legal or illegal drugs?

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<v Speaker 3>would raise their hands, and then I would say, well,

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<v Speaker 3>how many of you you have written in a car

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<v Speaker 3>with someone who's distracted? And everybody rose their raised their hands,

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<v Speaker 3>and I looked at them and I said, why would

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<v Speaker 3>you do that? Why would you risk your life to

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<v Speaker 3>ride with somebody who's driving dangerously? And I was absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>amazed at how many intelligent people would do that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>have you ever, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Have I driven with people who are distracted? Sure? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>But generally I'm like, I'm ninety nine percent of the

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<v Speaker 2>time driving, and I think I'm a pretty good driver,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think I pay attention. And if you looked

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<v Speaker 2>at my, oh what is it now, my eleven year

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<v Speaker 2>old Vovo, you'd say this must be a pretty good driver,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's in pretty good shape. That's that doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't get into an accident tomorrow, obviously, you know

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<v Speaker 2>all of us have at different point in our life.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess got into some sort of you know, fender benders.

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<v Speaker 2>But it sounds to me like you had a horrific event,

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<v Speaker 2>a life changing event, and and and good good for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Now let me ask you, you obviously deal with people

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's a you said, a cab driver or whomever. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and if they're doing something which is clearly dangerous, which

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<v Speaker 2>includes obviously looking at their phone talking on their phone.

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<v Speaker 2>When you drive, when you drive with someone else, do

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<v Speaker 2>you try to help that person who's driving or do

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<v Speaker 2>you feel that when Like I'm I will always when

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<v Speaker 2>we come into an intersection, I'm looking because if the

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<v Speaker 2>car's coming from the right, I'm going to take the

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<v Speaker 2>brunt of the crash. And I've always whether whoever I'm with,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll always try to say, well, you're clearing the right,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing coming, or you got about five seconds here and

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<v Speaker 2>if you if you can't go real quickly, we got

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<v Speaker 2>to you gotta wait, do you or do you sit

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<v Speaker 2>there and oblivious to what's going on outside and you're

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<v Speaker 2>really focusing on the behavior of the driver of your car.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I tend to be helpful. I tend to be

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<v Speaker 3>a helpful driver. Back to one of the things that

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<v Speaker 3>I do. I don't like it when drivers to get

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<v Speaker 3>directions will upload their maps and look at the map

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<v Speaker 3>on their tiny little iPhone or on their dashboard and

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<v Speaker 3>think that's being safe. So what I do is I

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<v Speaker 3>offer to give them directions. I ask them not to

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<v Speaker 3>look at their maps, but I will give them directions

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<v Speaker 3>and myself when I drive, are you Siri and Sory

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<v Speaker 3>gives me verbal directions And I don't even have my

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<v Speaker 3>phone where I can see it. I mean, it's just down.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you. I agree with you on that.

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<v Speaker 2>You sound like the sort of person that I'd be

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<v Speaker 2>willing to get in the car with. Let me ask

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<v Speaker 2>you canvas give us the website so people can get

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<v Speaker 2>more information about We Save Lives. I think it's very important.

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<v Speaker 2>Give people a chance to check out your website. Go

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<v Speaker 2>right ahead. What's the easiest way people can either get

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<v Speaker 2>in touch with you or reach out that we Save Lives.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you can just go to we Save Lives dot org,

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<v Speaker 3>which is our website. We also have another one, National

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<v Speaker 3>Passenger Safety Week, also dot org and get and link

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<v Speaker 3>onto that. And there's two things that I really want

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<v Speaker 3>to mention here. One is the Courage to Intervene promise.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is one of the things we ask people

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<v Speaker 3>to download and sign. And unlike most promises and pledges,

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<v Speaker 3>this does not say I will not drive drunk, et cetera. Instead,

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<v Speaker 3>it will say it says things like I will stop

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<v Speaker 3>my friends and loved ones from driving buzz, drunk or drug.

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<v Speaker 3>I will not ride with them if they are under

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<v Speaker 3>any kind of influence. And it goes on like that.

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<v Speaker 3>But the second thing I want to mention, mainly because

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<v Speaker 3>I work Similarch so much to his victims of car

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<v Speaker 3>crashes motor vehicle crashes, is the parent checklist. And I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if you have children and how old they are,

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<v Speaker 3>but I do wonder. And I've had so many parents

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<v Speaker 3>say to me, especially mothers, after telling me about their

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<v Speaker 3>child's death as a result of a passenger in the car,

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<v Speaker 3>if only I had known, If only I had known,

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<v Speaker 3>they were driving with someone who was unlifensed, who wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>So we have a parent Not to cut you off here, Candace,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm stealing time from my next guest. How can

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<v Speaker 2>how can parents get to that information quickly most effectively?

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<v Speaker 3>Again, National Passenger Safety dot or go to tool kids.

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<v Speaker 5>It was fair.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's great. That's great. Again, we went a little longer,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's well worth it. Uh, Candace Lightner, the group

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<v Speaker 2>we Save Lives dot org or National Passenger Safe. Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>very much, Candice, best of luck. We'll have you back?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, thank you, bye bye, very welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming up, we're going to talk about supporting single moms

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<v Speaker 2>during Poverty Awareness Month. Back on Nightside. My name's Dan Ray.

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<v Speaker 2>Back in the big chair here, the host of Nightside,

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<v Speaker 2>coming to you every Monday through Friday night from eight

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<v Speaker 2>until midnight. Got a great show for the balance throughout

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<v Speaker 2>the evening. As a matter of fact, we just did

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<v Speaker 2>a very interesting guest mortcom Coming up on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Our next guest is Alison Carter Marlow. She's the executive

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<v Speaker 2>director the Boston executive director of the Jeremiah Program. Allison,

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<v Speaker 2>whereas we're talking about supporting single moms during Poverty Awareness Month,

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<v Speaker 2>tell us about the Jeremiah Program. How long has it

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<v Speaker 2>been active? And it is also a Boston based program

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<v Speaker 6>Sure, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>So much for having me. It is a pleasure the

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<v Speaker 4>Jeremy sort of what sort.

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<v Speaker 2>Of microphone do you want here? Allison? I'm getting all

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<v Speaker 2>sorts of Are you on some sort of a headset happened?

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<v Speaker 5>No, I'm not, but I did have a heater plugged

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<v Speaker 5>in is that any better?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Why don't you just Rob will work

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<v Speaker 2>you with worth your fifteen seconds again, it's a better

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<v Speaker 2>audio version. Okay. We're talking with the executive director, the

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<v Speaker 2>Boston executive director of a group called the Jeremiah Program.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is a program that mark's January National Poverty

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<v Speaker 2>in American Awareness Month, and the focus is on supporting

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<v Speaker 2>single moms during Poverty Awareness Month. And certainly, if we

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<v Speaker 2>are ever to break the poverty cycle in this country,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're going to have to focus on single

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<v Speaker 2>moms who are trying to care for themselves as well

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<v Speaker 2>as their children. Alison, I think we have you back.

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<v Speaker 4>Program so much.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you. I hope this is better and stronger.

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<v Speaker 5>The Jeremiah Program was founded in the early nineties by

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<v Speaker 5>a priest in Minnesota who was seeing a number of

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<v Speaker 5>young single moms who didn't have stable, affordable quality housing,

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<v Speaker 5>who didn't have childcare, and who didn't seem to be

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<v Speaker 5>on a path towards economic mobility. Most of us would

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<v Speaker 5>define that as college access or what I like to

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<v Speaker 5>call mortgage paying jobs, and so this father founded a

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<v Speaker 5>location in Minneapolis that housed a number of women, provided

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<v Speaker 5>quality childcare on site, and allowed moms to go to

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<v Speaker 5>school and to work. Since nineteen ninety three, there are

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<v Speaker 5>now nine campuses across the country, three in Minnesota, one

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<v Speaker 5>in Nevada, one in Maryland, one in New York, one

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<v Speaker 5>in Texas, one in North Dakota, and one here in Boston.

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<v Speaker 5>The Boston campus has been around since about twenty fifteen.

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<v Speaker 5>Twenty sixteen, we started with a partnership of doctor Richard

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<v Speaker 5>Moms were housed on campus in Beverly, and yet as

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<v Speaker 5>They wanted to be able to go to different colleges,

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<v Speaker 5>access different majors. For some of those moms, Beverly was

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<v Speaker 5>just too far, and so the Jeremiah Boston program now

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<v Speaker 5>encourages moms to go to whatever college makes sense for them.

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<v Speaker 5>Indicot is still a very strong, wonderful partner to the

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<v Speaker 5>Jeremiah program, as his Urban College of Boston Laborarey College

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<v Speaker 5>of Healthcare. Our moms attend sixteen local colleges in Boston.

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<v Speaker 2>There is probably we mentioned Antegoch College. Was that the

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<v Speaker 2>then president Richard Wiley, who worked with you, that.

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<v Speaker 5>Was he was a great friend, a.

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<v Speaker 2>Great friend of mine. Commencement beach at Endercart College in

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and nine. I can't tell you how impressed

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<v Speaker 2>I am with that facility. So during this period of

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<v Speaker 2>time from twenty fourteen to today, you're getting close to

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<v Speaker 2>celebrating ten years here in the greater Boston area, how

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<v Speaker 2>many moms have participated in the program and how many

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<v Speaker 2>different schools have they either attended or matriculated from.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure, so we in twenty twenty four we reached a

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<v Speaker 5>peak and we're serving seventy two moms. Moms graduate or

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<v Speaker 5>may opt out of the program, and so anywhere between

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<v Speaker 5>sixty and seventy moms are served in our program a year.

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<v Speaker 5>Those sixty to seventy moms in twenty twenty four had

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<v Speaker 5>one hundred and twelve children. And our investments are in

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<v Speaker 5>both moms and their children. As I mentioned, our moms

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<v Speaker 5>attend sixteen area local colleges. They choose which college works

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<v Speaker 5>for them. But it's a credit to doctor Wiley Endicott

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<v Speaker 5>understand some of the unique challenges facing parent scholars and

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<v Speaker 5>have just a number of supports that allow a mom

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<v Speaker 5>who chooses that college to do very well.

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<v Speaker 4>I do want to.

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<v Speaker 5>Say that while we invest in moms, provide them coaching,

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<v Speaker 5>provide backup childcare, try to partner with employers who are

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<v Speaker 5>interested in hiring our moms and our graduates, we also

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<v Speaker 5>invest in private tutoring. We subsidize summer camp, and we

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<v Speaker 5>make investments into the children of our mom's five to

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<v Speaker 5>twenty nine accounts. We are a two generational program, and

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<v Speaker 5>we believe that once mom earns that credential, she is

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<v Speaker 5>do that. They go from first generation college grads to

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<v Speaker 5>second college grads and beyond. We graduate anywhere between four

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<v Speaker 5>to seven moms a year. Moms finish either the Associates degree,

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<v Speaker 5>they may choose to continue on with Jeremiah as they

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<v Speaker 5>pursue their bachelors, or they may in their journey with us.

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<v Speaker 5>Most of our moms are interested in bachelor's degrees.

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<v Speaker 2>So do any of the moms ever come back and

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<v Speaker 2>find themselves actually tutoring others or themselves helping with the program,

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<v Speaker 2>or when they leave the nest, do they leave the

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, no no.

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<v Speaker 5>And to this point of you know, poverty awareness, the

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<v Speaker 5>reality is a marathon and not a sprint. Just because

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<v Speaker 5>our moms are earning that college degree, that doesn't always

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<v Speaker 5>magically translate into that mortgage paying job. We have a

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<v Speaker 5>very strong alumni network among Jeremiah moms. We have close

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<v Speaker 5>to thirty women who have graduated in the eight and

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<v Speaker 5>a half years we have been on the scene. Our

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<v Speaker 5>moms have four to six years that they're allowed to

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<v Speaker 5>be in the Jeremiah program and pursue that associates or

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<v Speaker 5>bachelor's degree. Those alum are very interested in some of

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<v Speaker 5>the things most college grads are interested in. That is

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<v Speaker 5>building their social capital, networking, being introduced to folks who

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<v Speaker 5>might have a job opportunity or an internship opportunity. I

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<v Speaker 5>think the thing that distinguishes Jeremiah program from so many

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<v Speaker 5>other programs that support parents scholars. Our moms will speak

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<v Speaker 5>to the sense of community and sisterhood they get to experience.

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<v Speaker 5>We think that's a driver for college persistence in this population,

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<v Speaker 5>and our alum are definitely close and still connected long

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<v Speaker 5>after they graduate from college. There's still Jeremiah alum and

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<v Speaker 5>they do reach back and offer to tutor and mentor

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<v Speaker 5>our current moms.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds like a great program. How could folks get

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<v Speaker 2>more information on the program or maybe even be a

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<v Speaker 2>little supportive of it in some form of fashion. What's

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<v Speaker 2>the easiest way folks can can find.

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<v Speaker 5>The program www dot Jeremiah program dot org. You can

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<v Speaker 5>look up the Boston campus. We have volunteer opportunities. A

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<v Speaker 5>lot of our donors and supporters like to get involved

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<v Speaker 5>around career panels where we're exposing moms to the different

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<v Speaker 5>fields they might leverage their college degrees and enter. You

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<v Speaker 5>can give and donate. All that information is on our

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<v Speaker 5>website and we certainly accept any ideas people might have

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<v Speaker 5>for sponsoring our events and our programming.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Jeremiah Program dot org, Allison, sounds like a

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<v Speaker 2>great program. Thanks for joining us tonight, and sorry about

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<v Speaker 2>that a little bit of an audio glitch at the

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<v Speaker 2>audio does much better as a result of taking a

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<v Speaker 2>few seconds to get it squared away. Thank you so much,

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate it. We get back. We're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>heart transplants. Adult heart transplants. It is amazing to realize

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<v Speaker 2>how many adult heart transplants have been done nationwide. Here

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<v Speaker 2>in New England and most specifically the Tufts Medical Center.

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<v Speaker 2>They completed seventy doult heart transplant last year twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 2>broke their own record for the second straight year. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>be talking with doctor Michael Kiernan, who's the Associate Chief

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<v Speaker 2>of Cardiology and medical director of the Ventricular assist Device

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<v Speaker 2>Program at Toff's Medical Center. Coming back right after the

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<v Speaker 2>news at the bottom of the Urts Nightside with Dan Ray.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay with us, It's Boston's news Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh truck Day. I remember doing live shots at Fenway

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<v Speaker 2>Park when I was at Chern for doing Truck Day

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<v Speaker 2>Fenway Park. It is like the end, the unofficial end

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<v Speaker 2>of winter. It was so much fun, something to look

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<v Speaker 2>you to doctor Michael Kiernan, who is the Associate Chief

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<v Speaker 2>of Cardiology medical director of the Ventricular assist Device Program

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<v Speaker 2>at Tuft's Medical Center. Doctor Kierenan, Welcome to Night Side, sir.

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<v Speaker 4>How are you hi, Dan? Thanks so much for having

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<v Speaker 4>me you in the show. I'm doing great. I appreciate

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<v Speaker 4>the opportunity to speak a little bit about the great

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<v Speaker 4>work that's hippening here at Tough's Medical Center and discuss

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<v Speaker 4>heart failure. So thank you again for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it's going great. And I never realized that, what

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<v Speaker 2>was it about five thousand heart transplants nationwide last year,

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<v Speaker 2>and you guys had a pretty good sized trunk of that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I didn't realize that heart trans transplants were becoming

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to say common, but so frequent. It's

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<v Speaker 2>been a long way from those first heart transplants back

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<v Speaker 2>in the sixties and seventies.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I know, that's right. The transplant program here at

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<v Speaker 4>Tufts began in nineteen eighty five, you know, and since

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<v Speaker 4>that time we've done eight hundred transplants, and of course,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I think we wish we didn't have to

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<v Speaker 4>do heart transplants, but you know, heart failure remains a

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<v Speaker 4>really the final solution for patients who are no longer

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<v Speaker 4>responding to medications. But yeah, you're absolutely right, Transplant medicine

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<v Speaker 4>has come a long way, and it's even in recent

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<v Speaker 4>we'll be able to provide to people that could unfortunately

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<v Speaker 4>for an organ to become available.

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<v Speaker 2>So before we talk about toughts, and I do want

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about toughs. Because you did seventy adult heart

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<v Speaker 2>transplants last year twenty twenty five, or you broke your

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<v Speaker 2>y it's a new England record for the second straight year.

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<v Speaker 2>As I understand it a lot to be proud of there.

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<v Speaker 2>But I thought that I saw the figure somewhere on

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<v Speaker 2>forty eight hundred nationwide. Was that the figure that that

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<v Speaker 2>I was or did I misread that?

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<v Speaker 4>No, No, that sounds that sounds that sounds right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, approximately, So it's amazing to think, Uh, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a long way from the days of debate and the

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<v Speaker 2>and the the heart transplant pioneers. Let me just ask

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<v Speaker 2>you a really dumb question, because I get paid to

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<v Speaker 2>ask questions dumb or other ways. It has to be

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<v Speaker 2>extraordinarily difficult to perform a heart transplant. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>just can't imagine what it is like. I have trouble

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<v Speaker 2>changing the battery in a flashlight. I mean, how give

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<v Speaker 2>us a sense of what it's like in that room

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<v Speaker 2>when you're doing a heart transplant. You have to have

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<v Speaker 2>all knowing what they have to do and in what sequence.

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<v Speaker 2>Give us a sense of it, if you.

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<v Speaker 4>Would, well, it does. So Number one, I don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to I don't want to disappoint you, but I'm actually

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<v Speaker 4>not the surgeon, so I'm on the medical side. So

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<v Speaker 4>the cardiologists provide all the care you know, before the

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<v Speaker 4>heart transplant, when the patient's waiting in the intensive care unit,

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<v Speaker 4>and the care once they're out of the operating room.

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<v Speaker 4>But yes, I mean there's the choreography of coordinating the transplants,

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<v Speaker 4>and it takes multiple surgeons because you need a surgeon

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<v Speaker 4>on the donor end, which could be a patient somewhere

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<v Speaker 4>else in the US, retrieving that gift of life, that organ,

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<v Speaker 4>and then of course a team of surgeons on the

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<v Speaker 4>receiving end getting our patient ready to receive that heart.

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<v Speaker 4>And it has to be you know, intimately timed so

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<v Speaker 2>It's a short period of time. Generally it's someone who

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<v Speaker 2>help me out. In a motiv a crash or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that, where their organs are donated and the heart,

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<v Speaker 2>what's it about twelve hours that the heart can remain

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<v Speaker 2>viable because I know sometimes you'll see the transplant of

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<v Speaker 2>course here and the person who donated the heart was

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<v Speaker 2>I correct on that?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Well, so that's one of the new innovations, to

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<v Speaker 4>be honest. So you know, historically we were actually in

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<v Speaker 4>years or so, we had about a five hour window

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<v Speaker 4>or four you know, four to five hour window at

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<v Speaker 4>our recipient. But there's new tools that have allowed us

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<v Speaker 4>beating outside of the body and what we call our

420
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<v Speaker 4>perfusion system that can allow us to travel. We've actually

421
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<v Speaker 4>our surgical team has retrieved an organ from Alaska and

422
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<v Speaker 4>not on you know, from the West coast is now

423
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<v Speaker 4>kind of a frequent occurrence for our patients to get

424
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<v Speaker 4>donations from again from the west coast, where five ten

425
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<v Speaker 4>years ago that was impossible. So that is one of

426
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<v Speaker 4>the innovations that allowed this.

427
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<v Speaker 2>So what's the window The window has expanded from four

428
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<v Speaker 2>to five hours, it's still a very limited window.

429
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<v Speaker 4>I mean, well it's still yeah, I mean usually, well,

430
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<v Speaker 4>the I would say, certainly, it's usually within twelve hours

431
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<v Speaker 4>or so. It is a fair number. I wouldn't say

432
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<v Speaker 4>there's not you know, there's not a tail end of it,

433
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<v Speaker 4>to be honest, once heart is on this profusion system,

434
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<v Speaker 4>but in general these are done within about twelve hours.

435
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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Just amazing. And then if I could ask has

436
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<v Speaker 2>the life expectancy of the dony us, I assume it's

437
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<v Speaker 2>substantially increasing over time. I mean, you know, depending on

438
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<v Speaker 2>the age of the recipient in their own physical condition.

439
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<v Speaker 2>What's the lifespan that we're talking about when someone is

440
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<v Speaker 2>successfully transplanted.

441
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well let me start with the So let me

442
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<v Speaker 4>in terms of framing it in terms of what is

443
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<v Speaker 4>really gained. So in people with really end stage disease,

444
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<v Speaker 4>it's generally a coin toss whether or not, they're going

445
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<v Speaker 4>to be alive a year from now, and so that's

446
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<v Speaker 4>why you're you know, you take the risk of doing

447
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<v Speaker 4>a heart transplant, but when you know things go well,

448
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<v Speaker 4>which they most commonly do. We're talking about on average,

449
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<v Speaker 4>close to fourteen to fifteen years of additional life, and

450
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<v Speaker 4>that means on average, so half of patients do better

451
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<v Speaker 4>than that, but of course half are on the on

452
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<v Speaker 4>the shorter side of that as well.

453
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but still the idea of fourteen of fifteen years.

454
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<v Speaker 7>You said on average, that's an average, correct, So yeah,

455
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<v Speaker 7>we're you know, we're restoring a decade and half of

456
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<v Speaker 7>life to people that otherwise would have, you know, probably

457
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<v Speaker 7>a year or less, and of course that year or

458
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<v Speaker 7>less is incredibly limited because of the disability and symptoms

459
00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:01.559
<v Speaker 7>these patients have.

460
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<v Speaker 2>Wow, it is just incredible what you folks can do.

461
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<v Speaker 2>And I never imagined it would be fourteen to fifteen

462
00:27:10.599 --> 00:27:18.079
<v Speaker 2>years on average. Is this is so difficult to talk

463
00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:20.599
<v Speaker 2>to you about because I'm not even sure the best

464
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<v Speaker 2>questions to ask. Obviously, we celebrate what you've been able

465
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<v Speaker 2>to do at TOFFS, and we realize that you're rising

466
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<v Speaker 2>to just I think an incredible I mean, I know

467
00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:40.920
<v Speaker 2>little about medicine, believe me, and I'm overwhelmed and honored

468
00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:44.279
<v Speaker 2>to talk to someone like yourself who's been involved in

469
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<v Speaker 2>all of this. Where do you think is where do

470
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<v Speaker 2>you think will be five and ten years from now?

471
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<v Speaker 2>At some point I assume the advance the advance advances

472
00:27:57.039 --> 00:27:59.839
<v Speaker 2>are going to have to taper off, do you know.

473
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you've made tremendous strides in the last fifty years,

474
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<v Speaker 2>ken is there's still room to grow and lengthen the

475
00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:10.400
<v Speaker 2>time that people's lives might be extended.

476
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<v Speaker 4>I think certainly there's ways to continue to improve utilization

477
00:28:16.640 --> 00:28:19.960
<v Speaker 4>of organs that are are that may be discarded for

478
00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:22.640
<v Speaker 4>a number of reasons, and so by doing that that

479
00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:26.720
<v Speaker 4>allows greater access to patients that wouldn't have access to

480
00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:30.359
<v Speaker 4>this therapy. So there's lots of room for improvement there.

481
00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:33.440
<v Speaker 4>I mean, there's a whole ton of innovations that are

482
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<v Speaker 4>occurring in transplant and heart filiar medicine that are incredibly

483
00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:38.640
<v Speaker 4>exciting that you hear about in the news in terms

484
00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:43.440
<v Speaker 4>of zeno transplantation, which is genetically modified organs, but that

485
00:28:43.599 --> 00:28:46.319
<v Speaker 4>is still I mean, that's more than a decade I

486
00:28:46.359 --> 00:28:49.720
<v Speaker 4>would say into the horizon. So that's far from being available,

487
00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:53.440
<v Speaker 4>but there's a lot of enthusiasm and excitement about thinking

488
00:28:54.240 --> 00:28:55.119
<v Speaker 4>towards that direction.

489
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<v Speaker 2>And let me just ask you a question as a cardiologist,

490
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<v Speaker 2>what is the one thing or the one or two

491
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<v Speaker 2>or three things that people can do, irrespective of their age,

492
00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:09.720
<v Speaker 2>that that advice you would give my audience to stop

493
00:29:09.799 --> 00:29:12.839
<v Speaker 2>doing or to begin to do that will lengthen the

494
00:29:13.640 --> 00:29:17.559
<v Speaker 2>time that their own hearts will work well for them,

495
00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:18.160
<v Speaker 2>you know.

496
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<v Speaker 4>And I think it's what people know. It's to get

497
00:29:20.079 --> 00:29:22.920
<v Speaker 4>up and move, you know, it's to lead a healthy life.

498
00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:25.920
<v Speaker 4>It's it's it's a thing we all hear about regular

499
00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:29.440
<v Speaker 4>it's exercise, it's it's diet. Food, food is medicine. You

500
00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:33.000
<v Speaker 4>are what you eat, but you need to be exercising,

501
00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:36.440
<v Speaker 4>moving and eating well. And then of course, you know, uh,

502
00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:39.480
<v Speaker 4>not smoking. We've made a lot of strides as a

503
00:29:39.480 --> 00:29:42.440
<v Speaker 4>community in terms of awareness of the ills of tobacco

504
00:29:42.519 --> 00:29:45.559
<v Speaker 4>and avoidance of alcohol as well. Well.

505
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<v Speaker 2>I just want to say thank you very much for

506
00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:50.359
<v Speaker 2>what you do. Thank you so much for being with

507
00:29:50.440 --> 00:29:54.160
<v Speaker 2>us tonight. Hopefully a lot of people now realize that

508
00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:57.039
<v Speaker 2>that the Tofts and and all the great hospitals we

509
00:29:57.200 --> 00:30:00.640
<v Speaker 2>were fortunate enough to have in our area just doing

510
00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:03.079
<v Speaker 2>what most of us would think of this miracles every

511
00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:05.079
<v Speaker 2>day of the week. So thanks very much for your

512
00:30:05.119 --> 00:30:08.000
<v Speaker 2>time and your information tonight. I really do appreciate it.

513
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Dan, thank you for helping to bring awareness to this.

514
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<v Speaker 4>I appreciate it. It's great speaking with you.

515
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<v Speaker 2>That's the least I can do, my friend. Let me

516
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<v Speaker 2>tell you, Doctor Michael Caernan, Associate Chief of Cardiology, Medical

517
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<v Speaker 2>Director of the Ventricular assist Device Program at Tufts Medical Center.

518
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<v Speaker 2>Thanks again, doctor m Doctor Kernan, I appreciate it very much.

519
00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:30.880
<v Speaker 4>You're very welcome, Take care, goodbye bye.

520
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<v Speaker 2>When we get back, we'll talk about something a little lighter,

521
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:38.480
<v Speaker 2>and that is Glocester's Soul Salty fourth annual Festival, UH

522
00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:42.319
<v Speaker 2>coming up this weekend, believe it or not. And we

523
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<v Speaker 2>got all the information from you from Oliver Barcer, who's

524
00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:47.480
<v Speaker 2>the director of the Cape Inn Museum. Coming back on

525
00:30:47.559 --> 00:30:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Nightside right after the break.

526
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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World,

527
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<v Speaker 1>Nice Side Studios. I'm do WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, it's been cold couple of days or a

529
00:31:02.039 --> 00:31:06.160
<v Speaker 2>few days here in New England, and I'm hoping that

530
00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:09.119
<v Speaker 2>the weather's going to warm up a little bit as

531
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<v Speaker 2>we get towards this coming weekend. And I tell you this,

532
00:31:13.200 --> 00:31:15.720
<v Speaker 2>we can get you some great activity if you want

533
00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:19.519
<v Speaker 2>to go north to Gloucester with us. As Oliver Barker,

534
00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:22.880
<v Speaker 2>he's the director of the Cape Ian Museum, and Oliver,

535
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:26.200
<v Speaker 2>I believe we talked about this a year ago, and

536
00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:29.440
<v Speaker 2>I hope that the publicity helped a little bit. This

537
00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:34.559
<v Speaker 2>is the fourth annual Gloucesters So Salty Festival coming up.

538
00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:36.599
<v Speaker 2>I guess this weekend. How are you tonight?

539
00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:38.079
<v Speaker 3>Dan?

540
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<v Speaker 6>It is great to speak to you, And yes, the

541
00:31:39.960 --> 00:31:44.079
<v Speaker 6>publicity was wonderful last year. We actually had eighteen hundred

542
00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:48.000
<v Speaker 6>visitors who braved the cold weather and joined us last

543
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:55.240
<v Speaker 6>year to enjoy some of the fish cities recognizably salty character.

544
00:31:55.640 --> 00:31:59.480
<v Speaker 6>So we follow this again. We've got ten ice sculptures

545
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:00.960
<v Speaker 6>that will be on view.

546
00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:03.640
<v Speaker 2>And they're gonna be They're gonna be a good shape. Oliver.

547
00:32:03.720 --> 00:32:05.680
<v Speaker 2>I think the ice sculptors are going to last.

548
00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:08.519
<v Speaker 6>I think so, but we want people to come and

549
00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:11.359
<v Speaker 6>see them this Saturday and Sunday if possible. I'm told

550
00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:15.880
<v Speaker 6>that it's gonna get marginally warmer this weekend, so I'm

551
00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:18.880
<v Speaker 6>hoping that listeners can rug up and join us for

552
00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:21.119
<v Speaker 6>what should be a lot of fun this weekend in Gloucesgow.

553
00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:25.279
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I was out today and I gotta

554
00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:28.599
<v Speaker 2>tell you, when the wind it didn't blow, it wasn't

555
00:32:28.599 --> 00:32:30.960
<v Speaker 2>that bad. So if we can get you a weekend

556
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:34.279
<v Speaker 2>up there without a lot of wind. You have indoor activities,

557
00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:38.480
<v Speaker 2>you have outdoor activities. Let's let's pick some of the activities.

558
00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:41.400
<v Speaker 2>It's Saturday and Sunday. Okay, that's the first thing they

559
00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:44.160
<v Speaker 2>have to know. And both days it goes from ten

560
00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:47.039
<v Speaker 2>in the morning until five in the afternoon, so the

561
00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:51.119
<v Speaker 2>sun is up at ten o'clock. Put it's gonna gonna

562
00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:54.000
<v Speaker 2>the best part of the day. Give us an example

563
00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:56.559
<v Speaker 2>of what you can do on Saturday, and let's talk

564
00:32:56.559 --> 00:32:58.119
<v Speaker 2>about some of the things on Sunday.

565
00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:02.319
<v Speaker 6>Fantastic. So on Saturday, one of the great highlights, something

566
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<v Speaker 6>that was so popular last year was a sing along

567
00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:10.200
<v Speaker 6>sea shanty presentation. This is being offered by a group

568
00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:15.599
<v Speaker 6>called Three Ship, Three Sheets to the Wind, and that's

569
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:18.039
<v Speaker 6>going to be taking place between two and four at

570
00:33:18.119 --> 00:33:23.759
<v Speaker 6>the Unitarian Universalist Church in downtown Gloucester. That's just a

571
00:33:23.799 --> 00:33:27.240
<v Speaker 6>wonderful way of hearing people sitting and actually joining in

572
00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:31.359
<v Speaker 6>many of the choruses. So I think that would be

573
00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:34.039
<v Speaker 6>a great indoor activity once you've come and seen all

574
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<v Speaker 6>the sculptures outside, and then moving to Sunday.

575
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<v Speaker 2>We've got before before Well I'm not going to rush

576
00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:43.920
<v Speaker 2>you here before you moved to Sunday. Okay, wait a second,

577
00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:47.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about you can get breakfast, lunch, or dinner,

578
00:33:48.759 --> 00:33:52.559
<v Speaker 2>or you can get a or a sweet and salty

579
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:57.440
<v Speaker 2>cocktail in an igloo. Is that an actual igloo at

580
00:33:57.519 --> 00:34:00.240
<v Speaker 2>mile mark or one on Route one point three?

581
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:02.759
<v Speaker 6>It's an actual igloo.

582
00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:05.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, we're talking.

583
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:09.440
<v Speaker 6>We've got. There are all sorts of salty and sweet

584
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<v Speaker 6>treats that many of our sister businesses along Main Street

585
00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:19.360
<v Speaker 6>are offering. We've got there's a bakery that's offering cookies

586
00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:24.679
<v Speaker 6>with special mold and salt on top. And and if

587
00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:27.360
<v Speaker 6>you want, if you're shopping, have shopping in mind. I

588
00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:30.960
<v Speaker 6>know one of our local vendors will be selling specially

589
00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:34.639
<v Speaker 6>warm socks to keep everyone cozy as they as they

590
00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:35.840
<v Speaker 6>walk around the downtown.

591
00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:38.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, I get this one. You buy one, you get

592
00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:41.679
<v Speaker 2>one free chocolate chip cookie. I would be stopping there

593
00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:46.760
<v Speaker 2>because that's pretty good to me cookie guy. Right, absolutely,

594
00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:52.440
<v Speaker 2>So then let's move that's that's all weekend. But so

595
00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:56.119
<v Speaker 2>on Saturday you mentioned the sea shanties buy three Sheets

596
00:34:56.159 --> 00:34:59.519
<v Speaker 2>to the Wind. Yes, that that should be a lot

597
00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:02.920
<v Speaker 2>of fun. That's from two to four at the Unitarian

598
00:35:03.000 --> 00:35:06.840
<v Speaker 2>Universalist Church. You got some open mic poetry readings you

599
00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:10.880
<v Speaker 2>got on Sunday. Let's let's talk about some of the

600
00:35:10.920 --> 00:35:15.159
<v Speaker 2>things on Sunday. What's paint salt water dough fish? What's

601
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:15.599
<v Speaker 2>that mean?

602
00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:20.159
<v Speaker 6>So that's one of our local businesses called Local Colors

603
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:24.760
<v Speaker 6>that has fish that are made out of dough that

604
00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:29.800
<v Speaker 6>people will be able to paint. Speaking of kids activities,

605
00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:37.559
<v Speaker 6>a sister institution, Maritime Gloucester on Gloucesters Waterfront is offering

606
00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:42.320
<v Speaker 6>a kid's activity between ten and four as well. So

607
00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:46.840
<v Speaker 6>there are lots of things for people to get there,

608
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:52.920
<v Speaker 6>get involved in and bring their families, and lots of

609
00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:55.599
<v Speaker 6>family friendly activities that are off of this weekend.

610
00:35:56.199 --> 00:35:58.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so there's there's again when you talk about the

611
00:35:58.960 --> 00:36:01.119
<v Speaker 2>ice sculptures and a looking at some of the ones

612
00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:06.320
<v Speaker 2>from last year, they're just beautiful. When are they already

613
00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:10.159
<v Speaker 2>created or are in the process of being created? You know,

614
00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:12.000
<v Speaker 2>today and tomorrow and Friday.

615
00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:16.159
<v Speaker 6>So the sculptures are all actually being made by local

616
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:20.880
<v Speaker 6>artists by the name of Don Chappelle. He's creating them

617
00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:23.599
<v Speaker 6>as we speak in his studio in North Andover and

618
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:27.719
<v Speaker 6>he'll be delivering them on Saturday morning. And for anyone

619
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:31.559
<v Speaker 6>who's there early, it's fascinating to see him actually assemble

620
00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:35.719
<v Speaker 6>the sculptures in situ who he comes with a chainsaw

621
00:36:36.039 --> 00:36:39.400
<v Speaker 6>and he makes certain sort of touch ups as his

622
00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:43.440
<v Speaker 6>positioning the pieces and making sure that they're stable. So

623
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<v Speaker 6>they're being created as we speak and will be installed

624
00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:52.320
<v Speaker 6>on Saturday. And we have ten sculptures this year, with

625
00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:58.840
<v Speaker 6>subjects ranging from fancy fish and lobsters all the way through.

626
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:02.440
<v Speaker 6>Many of your listens listeners might be familiar with a

627
00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:07.719
<v Speaker 6>great author and a great book by Virginia Lee Burton

628
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:12.719
<v Speaker 6>called Mike Mulligan and the Steam Shovel. It's a book

629
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<v Speaker 6>that many kids grew up with a wonderful story, and

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<v Speaker 6>Virginia Lee Burton is a or was a local in Gloucester.

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<v Speaker 6>And so we're actually having Don Chappelle make an image

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<v Speaker 6>of the Steam Shovel for younger audiences this weekend as well.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great, well, Oliver it's great. It looks as if

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of activity up there. People conduct in

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<v Speaker 2>and out of the shops and stay warm. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of it is all a kid friendly and family friend friendly,

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<v Speaker 2>as they say, poetry readings, free stickers, you know, food fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like a great weekend, and it's a great

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<v Speaker 2>weekend to get us through Jeduary. And it's a real

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<v Speaker 2>tradition in Gloucester. This is the fourth annual one, so

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<v Speaker 2>they can get up there. Where can they get information

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<v Speaker 2>if they want to get all the information that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>looking at right now? What's your website?

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<v Speaker 6>So the website for the museum is Capeandmuseum dot org.

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<v Speaker 6>And if people on Saturday or Sunday head straight to

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<v Speaker 6>the museum, which is a twenty seven pleasant street in Gloucester.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll be there with a group of volunteers. We're going

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<v Speaker 6>to be handing out guides so that people can find

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<v Speaker 6>the sculptures and also access all the great other offerings

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<v Speaker 6>that are taking a place around the downtown this weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great, well, Oliver Barker, I hope that you have

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<v Speaker 2>much success. Is even more success than a year ago.

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<v Speaker 4>It is.

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<v Speaker 2>Gloucester is so salty and it's the end of January.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the last full weekend in January, so take advantage

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<v Speaker 2>of it all, particularly if you're here within the New

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<v Speaker 2>England area. It would be a great day either Saturday

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday from ten to five. Oliver, thanks for coming back

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<v Speaker 2>and joining us again. We'll talk to you next year.

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<v Speaker 4>I love that.

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks again, Dan, take care, You're very welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, when we get back, we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the Boston Mayor's race, which seems to be coalescing. It

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<v Speaker 2>appears that Josh Craft. We'll talking about Josh Craft and

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<v Speaker 2>talk about whether or not Mayor Michelle Wu will now

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<v Speaker 2>actually have a race to deal with this year. It's

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five, it said mayor all election year in Boston.

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<v Speaker 2>We now have maybe a second candidate, maybe there'll be more,

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<v Speaker 2>who knows. We'll talk about it right after the nine

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<v Speaker 2>and then later on tonight we will talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>presidents and some of the executive orders. I'm calling it

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<v Speaker 2>the good, the bad, and the questionable. Back on Night's side,

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<v Speaker 2>right after the nine o'clock news.

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<v Speaker 8>Countertops installed in one day. Yes, they do call Bill

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<v Speaker 8>Shay's and Quincy yep. That Bill Shay's Call. The company

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<v Speaker 8>so serious about countertops that they put it in in

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<v Speaker 8>their name, Bill Shay's Countertops. When you say cha's, you

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<v Speaker 8>make your new counter tops