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<v Speaker 1>He's Ben, I'm Skinned. That's Dizzle, that's a little baby

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<v Speaker 1>corn bread. The four of us throw down every day

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<v Speaker 1>right here from three to six. Thank you for joining us.

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<v Speaker 1>And Ben, we have a brand new sponsor for this

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<v Speaker 1>next segment and it is Twisted Root Burger Company. Dude,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're quite possibly the best burgers in the

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<v Speaker 1>history of Dallas Fort Worth.

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<v Speaker 2>They're definitely in the discussion. They're massive, they have a

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<v Speaker 2>new menu they've been working on for the last six months.

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<v Speaker 2>You can, of course get all the same burgers you've

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<v Speaker 2>gotten there over the years, but they have this own

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you you are the architect, you are the chef.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like you just choose exactly what you want

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<v Speaker 2>and you can construct your own burger there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, b yob options, man, build your own burgers. Ben said,

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<v Speaker 1>you're the chef. Also, Man, they got custom piggles.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it, man, I love pickles.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to any of the local Twisted Root Burger companies Carrollton, Coppel,

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<v Speaker 1>Deep Elm, They're all over the place. And mentioned Ben

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<v Speaker 1>and Skin for a ten percent discount. But right now

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<v Speaker 1>it's time for this.

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<v Speaker 3>Now the sports k tweens as all the sports ye

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<v Speaker 3>hold on.

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<v Speaker 2>Say I want to hear that again? Can we can

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<v Speaker 2>we just hear that introg But now it's time for this.

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<v Speaker 3>Now the sports k TD that's the Twins as all

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<v Speaker 3>the sports that's so good, fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't pay you enough.

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<v Speaker 4>Before I get to this Jason Kidd thing, I do

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<v Speaker 4>want to read something real quick because the NBA Finals

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<v Speaker 4>start tonight. I'm excited, dude. Yeah, PACER's Thunder. We'll see

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<v Speaker 4>if it's good or not.

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<v Speaker 1>They're fun team, they're both I know that some tiny

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<v Speaker 1>markets and no one watches them. These are fun teams

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<v Speaker 1>to watch play basketball.

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<v Speaker 4>So the athletic put out a poll about it's like,

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<v Speaker 4>do you like the Thunder? Just that's that's all it was,

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<v Speaker 4>how do you feel at the thunder?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think about inclement weather?

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<v Speaker 4>Thirty four percent said I like them? Yeah, thirty percent

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<v Speaker 4>said I don't like them. Okay, that's pretty normal, pretty even.

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<v Speaker 4>Eighteen percent said not, but I like watching them. Fifteen

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<v Speaker 4>percent of neutral. I think they're pretty neutral. Finals here

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<v Speaker 4>with a Thunder and the Pacers, the great Midwest NBA Finals.

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<v Speaker 4>But then they asked if you don't like them, why not?

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess yes, Shay Gilles Alexander gets all these

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<v Speaker 1>floppy calls.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh forty nine percent, they get an uneven whistle, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>forty SGA's free throws.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just he is a free throw merchant. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a foul hunter. And it's just I hate it.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate watching it. I I just I do not

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<v Speaker 2>like watching them at all. They're one of my least

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<v Speaker 2>favorite teams in the league. And part of it may

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<v Speaker 2>just be the dark cloud hanging over me and knowing

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<v Speaker 2>that they're going to be good for the next decade.

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<v Speaker 2>They're so good now and this is just the beginning

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<v Speaker 2>of their window and then they have all these assets

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<v Speaker 2>to stay good and right. But I don't like him,

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<v Speaker 2>and its specifically I hate Lou Dort. I think he

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<v Speaker 2>is a linebacker playing in the NFL, Like I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even think he's a basketball player. He's so physical. He

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<v Speaker 2>just fouls the hell out of everybody. So you watch

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<v Speaker 2>him brutalize people, and then you see Shay somebody wish

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<v Speaker 2>spur on him and he goes to the free throw line.

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<v Speaker 3>I hate it.

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<v Speaker 1>He is perimeter Draymond. There's no doubt next year you

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<v Speaker 1>will see fewer whistles for Shay Gildess Alexander. I'm willing

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<v Speaker 1>to bet strong money on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, why the NBA is like, we know this is

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<v Speaker 2>a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Because what happened. This happened with James Harden. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>James Harden was a foul merchant. But it's the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, once they start really looking at this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>and seeing he's getting all these calls where he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>deserve to get it, then they start pulling back the

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<v Speaker 1>whistle because it's like, okay, like when they're calling it,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like a foul to them, and he's a

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<v Speaker 1>great player that people can't stay in front of. But

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<v Speaker 1>when they go back and look at the replay, they

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<v Speaker 1>go oh, and so then they start pushing it back

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Dude, Harden used to shoot like twelve free

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<v Speaker 1>throws a game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he initiates the contact and elbow's, you know, shoulder

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<v Speaker 2>somebody just to create space to get a shot off,

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<v Speaker 2>and they call the foul on the defender. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>he just knocked the guy down with his shoulder. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I was not a foul the defender.

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<v Speaker 1>Harden used to hook the defender and get the call,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they started calling it. It's the way that

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<v Speaker 1>these things go. But one thing I do really like

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<v Speaker 1>about him, and I understand what Ben saying. I love

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<v Speaker 1>a smothering defensive team, and it's one of the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>defensive teams I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 4>The other reasons they didn't like them that they were

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<v Speaker 4>stolen from Seattle, they're corny, and that they're this good

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<v Speaker 4>and have all these draft picks.

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<v Speaker 5>The corn this.

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<v Speaker 4>Comment, it's corporate basketball. It's like a manager calling pitches

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<v Speaker 4>from the dugout. The sideline interview crap is exhibit A.

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<v Speaker 4>It feels workshopped and focus group tested, totally inauthentic. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know that I feel that way, but I will

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<v Speaker 4>be watching closer Game one. Let me also say this

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<v Speaker 4>because I've seen it. I was standing ten feet away

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<v Speaker 4>from it. That coach is a genius. I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I have seen him tell the officials where they were

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<v Speaker 1>wrong and watch them reverse the call after they spoke.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's amazing. There's not a single thing that

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<v Speaker 1>is anywhere in that playbook, anywhere in that rule book

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<v Speaker 1>that he cannot instantly recall and hold over an official's head.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing places.

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<v Speaker 4>Audio from the Hoop Collective podcast here's Tim McMahon.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm not gonna sit here and tell you that

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<v Speaker 5>I know or even think that Jay Kidd wants out

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<v Speaker 5>of Dallas. That would be going way too far. What

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<v Speaker 5>I can comfortably say is there certainly have been decisions,

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<v Speaker 5>major franchise decisions that have been made that he was

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<v Speaker 5>not on board with, one of which includes the firing

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<v Speaker 5>of Casey Smith, who J Kidd has been extremely tight

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<v Speaker 5>with since his second tenures of player in Dallas, who

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<v Speaker 5>is now running the health and performance group for the

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<v Speaker 5>New York Knicks, which Tom Thibodeau praised up and down

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<v Speaker 5>on a regular basis.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, we go, So you get the point there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, too much win Hurst there. Yeah, so that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're connecting dots here. That's that's an accurate dot though.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, Casey goes back to J Kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe to the Phoenix days.

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<v Speaker 4>Really.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I could wrong on that, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>when JA Kid was in Phoenix, I think that's Casey's

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<v Speaker 1>wow first four into the NBA. I know it's for

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<v Speaker 1>sure Olympic team before JA Kidd got to the Mavericks,

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<v Speaker 1>like they go way back, and when JA Kidd was hired.

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<v Speaker 1>Casey was one of the people consulted on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. So I think of Jason Kidd. I've always heard

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<v Speaker 2>this that he is you know, he plays a chess game, right,

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<v Speaker 2>He's playing a chess match. He's manipulating the situation. And

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<v Speaker 2>I see him using this as leverage to get more

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<v Speaker 2>power here or if he does really want to get

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<v Speaker 2>out of here. If he doesn't, maybe he didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>the Luca trade. I have no idea, but if he

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<v Speaker 2>wants to get out of here, now would be a

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<v Speaker 2>good time he could. Either way, this is very beneficial

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<v Speaker 2>for this rumor to be out there, very beneficial to

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<v Speaker 2>Ja Kidd.

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<v Speaker 1>And and to your point, been beneficial to the Mavericks

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<v Speaker 1>because they have two guys on their bench that are

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<v Speaker 1>coveted next NBA coaches and Sean sweet Sweeney and Jared Dudley.

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<v Speaker 1>And if Ja Kid doesn't want to be here, which

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying he doesn't, it does or doesn't, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to get an asset out of New York

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<v Speaker 1>to let him go there. If you have two coaches

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<v Speaker 1>that you feel like could run the team. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>been draft picks draft picks player. It could be a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of different things, Uh, but we shall see. It's

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