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Speaker 2: What's going on? Baby, douget fresh and in the house. Baby.
Speaker 4: Oh, I don't like it when you rattled, Yeah, all
cads are you cancent training on the board. It wasn't working.
I didn't even get a hug and you just focused
dialed on it eating.
Speaker 2: We're gonna do it.
Speaker 4: Patience, my friends.
Speaker 3: So many things going on, I tell you. And there
was somebody else that was running some equipment in this morning,
sort of getting trained to be a producer of he's
doing a good job. Yes, he did a great job.
He did a really great job. And then I think
the app that we used that the cameras run through
updated and according to the Internet, that is what happened.
Speaker 2: And what they don't give you any like.
Speaker 4: They didn't have those updates on. People like to bring
him in the twenty first century with manners to see like, hey,
you know what, buddy, you just need to we need
to refresh you because we need to update you.
Speaker 2: That's so funny.
Speaker 3: I uh yeah, So it was just it was just
it was really, uh, kind of frustrating.
Speaker 2: But overall, Dougie, it's good. How are things with Dougie Fresh?
Speaker 4: Oh man, it's a roller coaster of life going on.
I finally get my car back, okay, after five and
a half weeks not being able to Uber. I actually
hit a Reddit card to last week. They gave me
a Dodge Chargers, So how was that funny? It was nice,
but you have to pay three hundred and thirty dollars,
so you got to drive your balls off to make
a profit, right, And sadly to say Monday, my can't
passed away?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, body, Yeah.
Speaker 4: I didn't put anything on Facebook.
Speaker 2: But she wasn't doing good.
Speaker 4: Name is Rosie. She was a rescue from a landlord.
Speaker 2: I knew, yeah.
Speaker 4: And she went to one house and this woman had
a bunch of pets and dogs weren't getting along with it.
And I already knew the cat was lovable, so we
were good. Mixed but she stopped eating and drinking like
the past week and a half, tried different foods and
looking on the internet and asking friends. You know, maybe
it's just a phase. But she kept getting weaker and weaker,
so her legs weren't really working to try to get
out of her bed. That's why she wasn't going to
the bathroom and getting weaker. I'm not gonna take.
Speaker 2: To the vat. You didn't take her to that?
Speaker 4: No, I mean just to see what's wrong. I mean,
you can tell when the animal is coming to its end.
Speaker 2: So how did how did how did the death go?
Did you like.
Speaker 4: So the past few let's say, no, I don't know.
Speaker 2: My god, you're terrible.
Speaker 4: So when I put my recliner and you can hear
the you know, the feet go up, and that was
usually her call to come in, knowing it's cuddle time.
So a couple of times I heard her bell go,
but her legs weren't working to come in the living room.
So Monday I heard a couple of wines from the
kitchen that for about bed was and she couldn't move
her arm to get comfortable, so I got her blanket.
I put her on a blanket and put her on
my lap. This was at four o'clock and I just
patted her and brush here all day and she she
went in my She passed away at about eleven o'clock,
the last breath.
Speaker 2: And with you, yeah, wow, it's devastating.
Speaker 4: Well, I didn't take care. Lolly probably said, well, if
we think we can save her, we will, but you
don't get her back. And I'm like why because maybe
they think you're a bad pet parent or something, or
they'll get her somebody else. I'm like, well, I'm not
going to give her to strangers. I mean, if you
can help, you can help. But if not, you know.
And then I was thinking that she was gasping, you know,
taking her to the emergency that in East Rochester having
her put down. But at that point she had half
an hour, two hours, you know. So I'm like, look,
you know what she fell love in this house. She
she's dying with me, and she did. And I had
a I don't want to say coffin, but a box
and I cut some stuff. What is wrong with you?
Speaker 2: What have you ever had a pet? I've had several.
Speaker 4: Okay, so I had some old blankets and cleaning the
basement and I just cut them up like a bedding,
and then I laid her in there and put her
to piece, and then I took her to Pets and
Pets and Piece in Webster the next day and Empire Boulevard.
They were very nice. Cremated her. No, I'm not getting
it back. I kept her collar.
Speaker 3: And that's the only living thing that in your life.
They thought you were crushing it.
Speaker 2: I mean true, that's true, right, you were just crushing it.
Oh wow, I'm really sorry.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, that's a pet. You know, they're great.
I mean we were. We were a good fit for
each other. Sure, she wasn't happy.
Speaker 2: There was your landlord, your therapist, your best friend.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, she loves She was spoiled. She didn't play
a lot. But you know, treats and food, and I
mean obviously food, but sometimes get a little fancy with
some tuna fish. If I'm making nails here, you go.
Of course you can have something.
Speaker 2: It's kind of hard now to come home to the silence,
I would think it is.
Speaker 4: That is the weirdest part, thinking you're going to hear
that bell coming around the corner.
Speaker 2: It's like most of your relationships, they go silent.
Speaker 4: After oh yeah, that pets, that pets and peas. You
gotta call the daughter like, hey, uh a friend of
your mom's. Well, how good a friend?
Speaker 2: Oh? Pretty good? Your mom's here.
Speaker 4: If you want to come pick her up, you might
want five other friends to come with you.
Speaker 2: There's no other Yeah, there's no one else in the
house to ignore you, now, right. That's a tough thing.
Are you going to find another one? Now? I'm not
you're not, okay?
Speaker 4: No, I think it was too tough when a dog
sit to come back and forth and make sure she
has enough. Yeah, pets are a big commitment.
Speaker 2: I do you know how they are?
Speaker 3: You are absolutely right when people say the pet is
a member of the family. They're absolutely telling the truth
because it requires that much, and you're a shitty.
Speaker 2: Pet owner if you don't. Right, it really needs to
be integrated in the family.
Speaker 3: It needs to almost be treated like another child if
you have children or whatever. Because I mean, yes, I
used to go because I remember somebody saying to me
when my kids.
Speaker 2: Well, I am man, I know what you're going through.
I just got a puppy and get so.
Speaker 3: Pissed off because I'm like, yeah, so I can let
my baby out in the backyard and take a shit
and it runs back in after four weeks old or whatever.
Speaker 2: But I mean, you know what I'm saying. So it's not.
Speaker 3: But in a way, if you integrated into the family,
the kids come to love it. It gives them responsibility
if done correctly, it teaches.
Speaker 2: Them things and and death.
Speaker 4: Well, I was just thinking, I think a pet more
so than a fish or a bird.
Speaker 2: Maybe you know.
Speaker 3: Yes, because I remember when my older boys were little,
they had a fish. They called him Hamish after some
character and SpongeBob, not SpongeBob, Bob the builder, it was Hamish.
Speaker 2: Like I couldn't.
Speaker 4: I don't think he got picked out in the fishball.
Hey Bob, Carl did get a little of Hamish over here.
Speaker 2: So are you a Jewish fish? That's right?
Speaker 4: He doesn't swim on the Sabbath.
Speaker 3: So I go and then one day I come down.
It's the only fish. It's in a fish bowl. It's
on the kitchen counter that you know had the past.
It was open kitchen to the dining room and all.
And they all of a sudden their way me up,
dead Dad. Now Hamish is upside down, floating. Daddy turn Hamish.
Speaker 2: On, I go, what owre?
Speaker 3: They like, three, Uh, you gotta can you can you
put new.
Speaker 2: Batteries in them?
Speaker 4: And that's what they were asking.
Speaker 2: Because they didn't. They didn't.
Speaker 3: To them, it was a it wasn't a dog. It
was something they looked at that they couldn't play with.
So to them, it was like a toy, and I
thought it was. So then my wife did a big
deal of all, we have to teach me a life
and death, and so we wound up going to a
stream and letting Hamish go off. It was the most
It was the weirdest thing to me because I just
was like, just fucking flush it down the toilet.
Speaker 2: It's a fish. I don't get it.
Speaker 4: So in the eyes of God, dust to dust, fish
to a.
Speaker 2: Stream, I've gone, what the fuck?
Speaker 4: Hamish was with us for seven months. No one and
I mean no one can say a bad word about
this fish.
Speaker 2: I'm going, what the fuck?
Speaker 3: So then years later we moved to a house, we
had a yard, we had all this stuff out of
the condo.
Speaker 4: Now and did you put out a tie for Hamishone?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: No, I didn't do anything. I didn't even I was like,
I remember being like pissed. This is what we really did?
Speaker 4: You ask your wife, are we really doing this?
Speaker 2: Are we really?
Speaker 4: I couldn't kids in the car finding a stream and
doing this?
Speaker 2: And we did. Did she read a Bible verse?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't I don't watch. I don't
remember how it went down. I just remember that it
went down, and I knew genesis, I knew what.
Speaker 2: I knew what the.
Speaker 3: The purpose was to try to show them this is
where fish come from.
Speaker 2: It was. It was an attempt to teach something. But
I wasn't buying in.
Speaker 3: So therefore I think I might have ruined it, quite possibly,
because I could get a shitty attitude kind of quickly.
Speaker 2: And that's my fault.
Speaker 3: I really don't blame her now years later because you said,
and this is the first image that popped in my
head when you said, have you ever had a pet?
I've had pets all my life, growing up and everything.
But there was a dog and probably my favorite, one
of my favorite pets of all time, and it was
a boxer named Bailey.
Speaker 2: And of course iritreat, yeah, I think if.
Speaker 3: It's got sick, and we had the cancer removed from
the neck, and then all of a sudden, they're like,
there's really not much more we can do.
Speaker 4: It came back, we got our money from the cancer,
and now we could have told you this.
Speaker 3: Before, but well they did say, like this is probably
only going to extend her life maybe a year, but
we decided to do it more. You know, I have
more for the boys, right, So I will never ever
ever forget the image when we took her to put
her down, because there's just at this point now it's
nothing and you just don't want to see the dog suffer.
And I remember they my oldest son went and he
at that time had to be somewhere around eleven or twelve,
and he just sat there holding her as she passed
away because I had given her the stuff and he
was up against the wall.
Speaker 2: I had to leave the room. I couldn't. I couldn't stay. Yeah,
I just I'm sure you were bing.
Speaker 3: Oh well, yeah, it was more because of of that,
watching him go through this. And I don't even remember
if we in any way he talked about it in
a proper way. I'm sure my wife did, but I
don't think I did. I don't know that I could
have at that At my moment, I was I was
really upset.
Speaker 2: But that's the uh, that's that's the tough part. Put
the injection in. Dog's dead. Okay, who wants fresh frish? Yeah,
it's kind of did Uh. Yeah, I felt terrible.
Speaker 3: He sat there just sobbing and holding the dog and and.
Speaker 4: My best friend called me. This was about seven years ago. Yeah,
he goes, And I was living with him and he
got divorced, and I doubt, but he goes, Uh, you
gotta put Rollo down. It was our dog, Rollo and
it was still it was at his house. He goes,
I'm out of town. You gotta wait whose dog?
Speaker 2: Was it? His?
Speaker 4: His and his ex wife's and his wife and he
had the dog and you needed to go do this
for him. Yes, he was out of town. He goes,
I need to take Rollo with the kids, my ex
wife and my new wife.
Speaker 2: What yes? What?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: How the fund do you get signed up for?
Speaker 3: That?
Speaker 4: One?
Speaker 2: Kid? I still have the ioh yeah? Do you ever? So? Uh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I went over. It was just so sad. He
was such a great dog. I mean I took him
to over my parents, you know, both sets, and I
would ride around town with him and just so he
was drinking and then he would throw it up and
it was just time. So I remember chewing gum. My
knees had gum, and I said, give me a piece
of that. So I was just chewing and that helped
me from not crying. He goes, you gotta be strong
for everybody. So it was me, his ex wife is kids,
his ex.
Speaker 2: Wife was the kids, and his new wife.
Speaker 4: The new wife wasn't there. Got her at the new
wife's house. You got who at the new the roll
of the dog?
Speaker 2: The dog?
Speaker 4: Where was the new wife at the old house? So
she came over so we could all do this together.
Speaker 3: So you had the new wife with there, That's what
I'm asking. Yeah, so you had the new wife, the
ex wife, four kids, four kids and the dog and
the dog and Spencer Port and no husband and no
no father, no father because he's out of town town
and the dog had to be put down there?
Speaker 2: Dude, how you had to be so close to this guy?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, my best friend was best man in his
wedding for my father, two kids. So put the dog
down and you know did the shot, and I mean
they were devastate, obviously.
Speaker 2: It was just you have to drive everybody.
Speaker 4: I held the dog and uh and put the window
down as he was getting wind down his face and all.
Speaker 2: Right, you held the dog. But I mean everybody is
in one car, yes, and there.
Speaker 4: This is like going to get the family Christmas tree,
except this time.
Speaker 2: I mean you're going but your surrogate dad.
Speaker 4: Yeah at that point.
Speaker 3: Why why why couldn't he just say to his wife
or ex wife, Hey, you gotta put roller down.
Speaker 2: Why couldn't you just.
Speaker 4: Try to keep everything, keep everything just you know, if
you're you're there, you're support. I was their uncle.
Speaker 2: I knew him, okay, all right, kids and born, yeah, you.
Speaker 4: Know, godfather or two of them. Okay, good and bad.
And I lived with them enough for six I think
then if I.
Speaker 3: Got that call, even if I had that relationship, I
would go, you're kidding, right right?
Speaker 4: You want me to do that?
Speaker 3: You got you got your wife and your ex wife there,
so fucking you meanful?
Speaker 2: You're fine?
Speaker 4: Come on, We've we've talked about this. How many people
on one hand can you count? Hey, I call you
four o'clock in the morning that are going to show.
Speaker 2: Up for you.
Speaker 3: So I understand, but this is not showing up because
it's it's the fucking dog.
Speaker 2: And I don't know. I mean, clearly it sounds like
you close to the dog. So okay.
Speaker 3: My only point is like it's a pet, if it
was your child something else there. But I mean, you know,
rollo rollo to a friend, buddy, I mean that's rolls.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: I mean, honest to god, Doug, I think, and I
would love to hear from people. You can always write in,
you can always text in. On the bottom of the
screen is the number five A five two zero two.
Speaker 2: I forget what it isn't.
Speaker 4: Right prepared over here? We should almost take you to Pets.
Speaker 3: And Peace sixty six five A five What do you
think about eighty eight sixty six? Or you can email
me Bill at Bill Moran Productions dot com and tell me.
I think that is the biggest ask I've ever heard from.
Speaker 4: Oh, I've been asked to cover for guys. Hey, I
was with you last night.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, that's not a big ass though, that I get.
Speaker 3: But to go to such an emotional thing, and I
guess here's the thing I am not.
Speaker 2: I've clearly clearly I'm not that close to you. No,
I'm just not that close.
Speaker 3: And I'm thinking that is a big ask, and what
a wonderful friend you are. And I'm not I'm not
mocking you. I'm I'm serious. Now let me mock No.
Speaker 4: Okay, I mean I was right in the middle between
not in the middle. But you know he got divorced,
he got remarried. Yeah, right, you know the kids, and
I knew the dog and yeah, you know love that
is he's still married. Yeah, your second wife, second wife,
it worked out. Just yeah, sometimes they don't. You're right,
Sometimes they'll go faster because it's everybody knows. There's an right,
there's an out, there's an eject.
Speaker 2: But I know where that eject button is. Baby, I'm
going to hit it. You know that's no.
Speaker 4: He likes being married, he like, I'm sure, I'm sure.
Speaker 2: Have you never missed being married?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Do I miss being married?
Speaker 4: Think about a boy if I was married, or something
like that run through your head here. You probably have
too much on your mind with other stuff to let
your mind want.
Speaker 3: I how to answer that question, because there are certainly
times that I wish his mom, my son's mom lived closer,
because I think there's a lot of things in the
co parenting world that we could do together. Uh, just
in time in terms of proximity. I think we've come
to a place where we work things out pretty well.
And again maybe that's me because I can I remember
when I I'll just say this, and I guess we
never we never know how we present to somebody else, right,
we think, but we don't know. And I remember early on,
when my kids were little, I read something and not.
Speaker 4: A Hamish's funeralvison, no.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no funeral.
Speaker 3: I read something that said, when you interact with your children,
you should put up a camera somewhere to watch yourself
later on, almost like review the tape to see how
you're interacting with the kids. Sound a little nutty, but
the only thing I could equate it to at the
time was you listened to yourself on the radio with
your boss. You used to have what was air check sessions,
so you would take your little cassette tape that had
They had a skimmer, so anytime the microphone went on,
it recorded.
Speaker 2: Anytime the microphone went off, it stopped. Okay, So you
just had.
Speaker 3: If you were playing music, you heard the end of
the song, you talk the very tail end of the song,
or whenever you turned on the mic, your whole break
and then they would review that with you and give
you correction. And I kind of equated it to that,
and I thought, let me try this. So I had
set up a camera. I think I did it once,
but you know, kind of at the level. And the
point was kids are little, they see you differently and
we don't know how you present. And I thought, shit, man,
that's not just with kids, that's with fucking everybody. So
when I say, now, like my son's mom and I
get along pretty well, uh, that may be because I'm
not a dick. No, I just have kind of and
I would say I didn't think I ever really was,
but I do know that I try now to make
a conscious effort to keep the conversations, you know, around
the kid and make sure everybody's comfortable.
Speaker 2: And I, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know how to say that, but I think
that a lot of times we come at things a
little hard. I come at things a little hard. I
don't know that we the wei is the wrong pronoun there.
I come at a little bit.
Speaker 4: Listen to the podcast. I mean, I know you edited
in somewhat.
Speaker 2: Do you know? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I have people that do that too, So
there's always notes.
Speaker 2: And things going by everything. I'm not kidding.
Speaker 3: I mean I get notes about you know, the there's
been I think it's obvious there has been some changes
in terms of lighting and things like that in the studio.
That is all outside influence people that have been hired.
Speaker 4: I've never got any suggestions from you.
Speaker 2: No, I just must be doing it, doing a great time.
And I try to keep these you know, this podcast
very that. But then.
Speaker 3: There are other podcasts that we're producing, and I'll get
notes on those or I'll give notes on those.
Speaker 2: So there's you listen to those two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got it you well, Because I mean, it's
aren't my it's my name brand that's out there. I
need to have it in a certain way and and uh,
and everything is always like do.
Speaker 2: They videotape it too? Do they see the bill of fighting? No? No, no,
they don't. They don't videotape they do they do? Yes?
What do they do?
Speaker 3: They put a c We have backdrops. If you look
behind you, you can see these stand there. Okay, so
we will put those up every once in a while.
If it's somebody has their own logo, we can put
that there. Uh, and that would be more the host chair.
And then I'm trying to step away from that side
of the business somewhat, and that's why we've been hiring
other people to handle the tech end of it. Yes,
you'll still be doing the podcast. I'll still be doing mine, Yes, yours, Yes,
And I will be doing.
Speaker 2: Dougie Fresh podcast.
Speaker 4: Here we are every other Tuesday and then and then
I'll just sponsored by Abbott's and Chenny Light the diet
of Yes, I'm down, buddy, I'm not going to break.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: Why not because you're up a little bit or you're
not a doubt as much as you thought.
Speaker 4: No, I am okay, I'm trying to crack that two
twenty by April first.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's Wednesday. Yes, or are you close?
Speaker 4: I'm too twenty one point four today, So the answer
twenty two.
Speaker 2: Answer is one hundred percent. You're close. Yeah, it's one
hundred percent.
Speaker 4: You know what I did. I made the mistake last
night having a big glass of chocolate milk before I
went to bed. Something came up at work about ice
cream last night, and all of a sudden, I'm I'm like,
I really want an ice cream. I'm like a sap
it Wegmans. I could add one bowl of ice cream
with chocolate syrup and nuts, and I'm like, you know,
it's a little cheap, but it won't be and it
won't totally ruin my diet. But then I've got the
ice cream waiting there. You know, I'm terrible. If there's
ice cream in the house, it only lasts a couple
of days, you know, and then you have to make
sure that the ice cream and the chocolate milk and
the nuts all end on the same day. Otherwise, if
you got chocolate, you got chocolate syrup and some.
Speaker 2: Nuts, well, fuck, all I gotta buy is ice cream.
That's eaving me money. So you have the really biggest
problem with dogs lights in the summer and not diet.
Speaker 4: Okay, you buy it all three Yeah, the Spanish peanuts,
chocolate syrup, vanilla ice cream. That's a Mexican Sunday.
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna give you a tip. Go on the internet. No,
I'm not, and I'm not. I don't mean this as why.
I have seen several recipes for making like high protein
equivalent of ice cream with Greek yogurt and flavor, different flavors,
and honestly like yeah, but I mean but and then
the people go, so somebody's trying somebody's recipe.
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you if this is bullshit or not,
is their point, and they go, actually, it's great. Now.
The thing is like we are of a certain age.
Speaker 3: You get to a certain age and they start you know,
if you're LDL cholesterol is to how they go, well,
the markers have moved now not to the standard, and
we suggest that you go on a statin. Well, you
don't want to be on a statin if you can
avoid it, right, it would be something that would.
Speaker 2: Help you lower your cholesterol. It's a drug that would
help you lower your cholesterol.
Speaker 3: And what they'll and you know, high cholesterol can honestly,
the bad cholesterol can be a problem your sugar. You know,
you want to keep that low because it could lead
to type two diabetes. And that is not necessarily a
lifelong thing. But that's where like the exercise and the
walking and all that stuff is super important. And I
got my blood work back and there were some abnormal
things to it, and I go, fuck this, I'm not
doing this. I'm not doing this. And it wasn't like
going a saturny it was just like, I'm not doing it.
Speaker 2: So I and I.
Speaker 3: Had been thinking, and I don't know if it was
conversations with you or other people that I'm like, you
know what, dude, this whole thing is.
Speaker 2: I got it.
Speaker 3: I just it's been a whole change in the past,
you know, year for me, if I go from usually
clock my years from my birthday back to my birthday,
that's how I went.
Speaker 2: Birthday it's late August, so I.
Speaker 3: Usually think there and and I started the grad school
program right after that, you know, sort of in an
odd way. But it's going it's going well. It's a
lot of work, but it's going well. And the podcast
and the changes that I've made there and the different things,
and you know, so I clock my ear there and
I and I'm like, I don't I don't want to
be this way. We did a one of the things
was you heard a phone call I just got it
was Damian mulconnery gone right, And we had you know,
one of the new influences is someone who's also handling
the social media. So that person had said I'm gonna
I'm gonna throw some really ridiculous stupid things at you,
and you you can't say no.
Speaker 4: For what the podcast yep, huh, and.
Speaker 3: I said, okay, so one of them was me and Kevin,
who was in here to do to dance. Okay, Well
I danced and I saw my fucking gut come out,
and I'm like, thank god, I'm back at the gym
and I don't And the thing is like, I don't
expect it.
Speaker 2: To be a quick thing. I really don't.
Speaker 3: But I am down like fifteen pounds, which is very
telling drinking glass, right, men can lose that way.
Speaker 2: I expected to plateau. I've been through this before.
Speaker 3: I'm not looking into but it is one of those
things where you're like, yeah, I have to make these changes,
like I can't eat that shit anymore because I am.
Speaker 4: And you had the fifteen to lose, guys, Oh I
guys generally had I got um fifteen down. Yeah, it's
been two weeks one.
Speaker 2: I was doing more boxing and stuff. I was one
ninety one.
Speaker 3: Ninety is a weight that a lot of people said
that I looked emaciated at. I went up a little
bit to two hundred, and I remember people going, man,
you look great.
Speaker 2: This is like the best of yeah. Wow.
Speaker 3: So but two forty five isn't good. To thirty isn't great.
You're still and you're fifty pounds at one point, yeah,
fifty five heavier than you were at the one ninety.
Speaker 2: And that was just a couple of years, just.
Speaker 4: A couple of years ago. Yeah, so you know, I
was it. I'm at January two, fifty in the week,
second week in the January.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna just go on to print. So wait
a second, dude, you have lost over twenty five pounds.
Speaker 4: Yeah you can't. You can see it in my face,
a little bit in my neck. But I always wear
sweatshirts now, yeah, because it's winter, so if I lift
the sweatshirt, you know.
Speaker 2: But congratulations and I don't.
Speaker 3: And I mean that, I mean, wow, you went from
a fucking baked potato right.
Speaker 2: Down to I mean, good for you.
Speaker 4: That is still coming off.
Speaker 2: Well, And look, I think this is something that goes
all stuff that we know how to do.
Speaker 4: It's eating less eating, right, I've been doing like I
don't get me. You laugh, No, I'm not steaking deviled eggs.
Speaker 2: No. I laughed at that because it's your devil fucking eggs.
Speaker 4: Right, Well, I know that's why. Yeah, no eating no
eating after a Ye, cream and sugar in a coffee
no more? Yeah, just black? That helps you lose weight?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want something else that can kind of help
you lose weight? What? Sex? Exercising?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well exercise walking, just walking in general, if that's
what you're saying.
Speaker 2: But to add to your coffee.
Speaker 3: I like this, Some people don't and maybe grossed out
by it, So.
Speaker 2: Do as you please.
Speaker 3: You No, I put coconut oil in there and that
will start to make some shit slip and set. Yeah,
I mean you fart, there's a friend coming. It's an orchestra.
I don't want to be.
Speaker 4: Stuck on the road ubering and then of a sudden
you wear a fucking dip. Right, good thinking, Bill, because
that's what I want to talk about on the podcast.
Speaker 2: How was your week going? Well?
Speaker 4: I shipped my pants on Thursday and I am an uber
rider and uh yeah, all over the place. And Delta
Sonic is not covering that, Bill.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, well we'll take a moment.
Speaker 3: But good for you, honestly, and I hope you in
some way recognize and celebrate. That's a pretty big achievement.
Speaker 2: I mean, and I here's what I.
Speaker 4: Want sometimes I just you know, I don't want to
tell people stuff I agree, or the bragging. You know,
wait till you wait till people start telling you asking
you if you've lost weight, then say yes, it's not
that I've lost ten pounds, I've lost twenty pounds.
Speaker 2: You know big.
Speaker 4: If you can't see it, then you still got a
ways to go.
Speaker 2: It's not the even the bragging stuff.
Speaker 3: I think it's one of those like where you take
your foot off the gas because people start.
Speaker 2: Going, you look great, and so you and you're not
to the weight you want.
Speaker 4: I have my goal in my head whether I can
get to that, and I still think I can.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you can too. I think if you
want to, you will.
Speaker 4: Because when I was in California, i hit two hundred,
I'm like, oh god, I gotta start working out and
we'll get down to one seventy and then creep up. Now,
obviously this is heaviest I ever been. Two hundred and
fifty pounds twenty years or twenty five years ago. Two
hundred was heavy for me. Right, you just stop caring?
Are you getting old?
Speaker 2: You've got a doctor, right, you just said.
Speaker 4: Doctor Vinie Wombats. No, I thought you for real, I
have a I get a column, make an appointment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you haven't done it all right?
Speaker 3: When you lose, When you lose the weight, go yes,
once it's down, once you get to where you want
to be, go get the blood work done. See how
everything is. And I bet you it's great. But it's
it's consistency. It is literally lifestyle change. And this is
where people get angry at me, because the GLP ones
they can do a wonderful job.
Speaker 2: I feel like sometime I'm misconstrued on this. Uh.
Speaker 3: And I know that it helps with inflammation, and there's
a lot of people who also, you know, weight and
sugar and things like that do increase your inflammation.
Speaker 2: Diet for sure.
Speaker 3: But I sometimes feel like if you're not making wholesale changes,
it doesn't last, right, And this is something.
Speaker 4: You may those quick fixed things. I mean, I understand
it's all over the and there could be people that
are remember that. Yeah, I had an ant that did
that and she lost I mean shoes three hundred pounds
and she lost and that's amazing and she stopped it
and it all came back.
Speaker 3: Right, and so the same and and all I say
was some of the GLP ones. They You know, it's
not the same as somebody who can't create insulin.
Speaker 2: That need these things. It is you to lose weight,
is it is? Sure?
Speaker 3: Sometimes I'm hearing you have to be on it forever.
But what I get is this kind of conversation, You've
got to.
Speaker 2: Do something with it.
Speaker 4: You got to exercise a little, change your eating styles.
It's just not you're gonna stick yourself and oh I'm
losing weight. I look like it, because what's gonna happen. Yeah,
that weight's gonna come off, and you're gonna take your
shirt off and you're gonna.
Speaker 2: Have waves of flab. You could have that for you.
Speaker 4: I mean, you might look thinner dressed, but I mean
the ultimate goal is to get laid and be attractive
and wanted. Yeah, you know, desired, good look, you know,
and not only for the other person, but you want
to look in the mirror and be like, yeah, somebody
wants to fuck this. I'm going out there and finding them.
God speak, you know, self attractiveness or I'm lost in
the word. Yes, self esteem. Self esteem, It is very important.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 4: I agree makes you more confident in the workplace, in
life and just stritting your stuff around like a peacock.
Speaker 3: I don't think men talk about this. I don't think
guys do. I really don't in terms of weight loss
and things like that. That's why I think this is
a unique conversation from that aspect. I think you should
be proud that you lost twenty five pounds. You should
keep going.
Speaker 2: You fat? Fuck Yeah, and uh, you know what I
do that you're doing it.
Speaker 4: I wrap a ton of my DVDs in each hand, yeah,
because I have so many.
Speaker 3: I also think that the diet and exercise conversation used
to be kinda one of these ones that people would
sort of bristle at, you know, don't tell me what
to do. My body's fine. Well, I want to keep
that because please go do it, especially if let's say
you're taking the gop one and now you actually feel
like you can move, the inflammation's gone.
Speaker 2: Go take that walk, you continue. You can't do push ups?
Speaker 4: You can do one push up? No, I can't do
one push up tomorrow, do two next week?
Speaker 3: Do five, Doug. I wish I could have filmed this guy.
I was at the gym. Old old guy. I don't
know how old. I'm gonna say somewhere in his eighties,
he could have been ninety.
Speaker 2: He's doing inclined push.
Speaker 3: Ups on with bars on his hand, so his feet
are up on what people box that people jump on,
one of these big cushions. His feet are on that,
and he's got two handles like and they're on wood,
which was weird. And he's got him out and he's
doing pushing. He's just cranking out push ups and I'm like,
holy shit, holy.
Speaker 4: Shit, that is dedication. He's right doing it.
Speaker 3: I don't know, you had to see, like he's this skinny,
he's got some saggy just age skin, right age skin,
and I go that, I go, look at this fucker.
Speaker 4: He got guns like never own.
Speaker 3: No, not really, not really, he's more a wiry guy.
Speaker 2: But and I don't think it was just part of
his routine.
Speaker 4: You know, it's one thing. You see somebody in gym
and oh you're working out, and that's great. Then you
know somebody that's been jogging all his life. And what
happened about Buddy dropped out. He was got a shocking
die like I'm that fucking exercising and they go meet
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Speaker 4: Good afternoon, boys and girls and children of all ages.
You better believe that we are rolling this session number
two out here in Pittsford. You know you who you got,
the one, the only, the hip Shaken Money, Magan Tower,
Power Man in the Hour twenty four to seven, the
one your mother warned you about. Dougie Fresh and the
Hour Baby to My Ride, the Man, the myth legend,
six foot two and has of Blue, the Admiral of
the Airways, a point deck zero podcast, the one and
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Speaker 2: Whoa wow. Look.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Douggy Fresh, Yeah, Douggy Fresh bringing it in.
Speaker 2: That's the way it is.
Speaker 4: That's the way it is. I had a bride and
groom over the other day. Yeah, yep, you saw their wedding.
No talk about that while yeah, slated for June twenty.
Speaker 2: The cat's not there to watch anymore, so you're right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, the cat was alive. It was Sunday. Oh yeah,
she just hung out in the kitchen in her bed.
But I tell you the things I've been hearing. I'll
tell you what aut fair. I just the outrageous prices
and what you're not getting. Yeah, like twenty five hundred
dollars and I don't think that includes a photo booth
or anything like that. They're paying almost four hundred dollars
an hour and you don't get to pick your music.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll be there, and what you get is what
you get. I'm like, I can't and I'm hearing it
from enough people that.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Maybe that should be my thing. I mean, I do
do a good job, but you know, I think about
the comedy or something going on or moving and it's
tough for me to focus not focus on one thing.
But this is going to be it. I'm all in
for this.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I always have other things I'm doing, so maybe that
should be it. I mean, it is what DJing weddings.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I know one friend he does like one hundred and
fourteen a year and he's being hired by a DJ
company just to go in and press play. Really doesn't
do any announcements or anything. And I'm just like, really,
so if somebody's booking the weddings, They just throw you there.
They give you the playlist that the company provides, not
that the bred and groom provide. And I guess every
now and then he'll throw in a song or take
a request, and he's getting paid, obviously, DJ companies get paid.
I'm like, but is it really how you want your wedding?
Your wedding songs? What you don't want? This girl absolutely
wanted no line dancing whatsoever. Right, no chot chest side,
no Cuba shuffle. And I get be like, well, yeah,
you having one hundred and twenty five people, yep, you know,
how about Cotton Eyed Joe. We're gonna do a little blocking, Okay,
Cotton Eye Joe's fine. The Mockarin is fine because she
knew it. But other than that, I'm like, that's fine.
It's your wedding.
Speaker 2: You could have.
Speaker 4: You could have all Love Zeppelin if you want, but
you might want to throw a few in how to
make your crowd happy and get them on the dance floor.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And was she open to that? Yes? She was, okay, yeah, yeah,
there you go.
Speaker 4: Because she had met with a bra uh not DJ,
and she's telling me this, I'm like, no, it's all,
it's your day. Whatever you want and don't want, that's
fine with me, right. She goes, all, amazing, wonderful, Yeah,
that was just thing, amazing, just sweet girl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, amazing and wonderful. The uh, that's that's great.
Speaker 4: And I think she was surprised at so outgoing to
make sure everything she had or wanted to have everything
her way. Who's called Santa Claus? No, no, it was
Is it Tiger?
Speaker 2: Does he need bail money? It's uh, it's a non
stop but trying to.
Speaker 4: Stop his car was not stop yesterday?
Speaker 2: Rollover number four. Okay, now we just found up.
Speaker 4: Wonderful boy, this guy.
Speaker 2: Fucking ship.
Speaker 4: So I tell you my new joke. So this man
and woman are down on their luck and they have
no money, and the woman decides to be a prostitute,
and uh, what.
Speaker 2: Do I do?
Speaker 4: He goes, I'll drop you off in front of the bar,
and I'll hide around the corner and if there's a
promary questions, come get me. She goes, Okay, what do
I charge? He goes one hundred dollars late. She goes,
all right, I can tell you that one I tell
you they tell you on air off air.
Speaker 2: I better finish it out for this show. Finish usband
drops the.
Speaker 4: Wife off in front of the bar and goes around
the corner and this guy comes up to say, you're
turning tricks and she goes yeah. He goes that much
one hundred dollars. He goes, I've only got thirty dollars.
She goes, hold on a second. She goes run to
her husband. He goes, what's up. He goes this guy
wants to full around, but he's only got thirty dollars.
He goes, oh, just give me a hand job. Okay,
So she goes back and says, look, I can give
you a hand jab for thirty dollars. He goes, it's fine.
So they get in this car and she pulls his
crank out and it's the biggest, largest, thickest, longest, most
beautiful penis she's ever seen in a walk life. And
she goes, hold on a second. She runs back to
the husband and he goes, now what. She goes, can
you loan this guy seventy dollars?
Speaker 2: So Tiger Woods? Who yeah, Oh, I think only.
Speaker 4: Fifty people at the bar asked me if there's an
update on Tiger, and I kept saying really no. Oh yeah,
well cause we where I work. He just has a
golf channel on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 4: And of course during the bottom of the thing, you know,
Tiger Wood's involved in a rollover in dwy d Ui.
So people will go in and out eating dinner and
coming back update on Tiger. I'm like, no, there's not
going to be an update. This is a big story
and nobody's gonna know anything for next few days. But right,
how that multi multi multi multi millionaire doesn't have enough
money to have even Dougie Fresh Doug move down to
Florida be my personal driver. I'll pay you a thousand
dollars a day.
Speaker 3: Believe or not, there are probably people and I know
this is airing later that may not completely know. He
trying to pass the truck on a narrow road. Car flips,
he climbs out. No injuries. Please say he showed signs
of impairment. Here's the twist. Breathalyzer zero point zero zero. Oh,
let me say it again, breathalyzer zero point zero zero.
They suspect medication. He refuses a yearine test, therefore is arrested.
Because Florida is different, I guess they do what you're
intense right on the side of the Jupiter. Arrested for yeah,
high end, arrested for DUI, held for eight hours, release,
nobody hurt. But the cops are flat out saying this
could have been worse, and now the internet does what
the Internet does. Blame Tiger, questioned Tiger Judge Tiger. I
heard Mike Wilbon on Wulman or whatever his name is
on ESPN going on about how bad this is with Tiger,
and we would think he would learn his lesson and
all that stuff, and it's been bad. And I'm going,
I see this differently. I'm not saying that it's it's wrong,
but I see it differently. I'm going, this isn't just
a guy messing up. This is a guy who had
to apologize for cheating to.
Speaker 2: The world and the Masters.
Speaker 4: Correct.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but he had a press conference for
the world. There was a press conference where he walked
up to a podium.
Speaker 4: Brian Gumbel was talking about this. I watched the Tiger Woods.
It was on his biography and the Masters. He apologized
there to his mother and everybody, and Brian gumbles like.
Speaker 2: May it may fuck you? He goes, I wentn't apologize
why this is. This is my point. This is my point.
Speaker 3: I don't know where it was. I don't know. I
just remember watching it. There was a room that was
filled with hundreds of people, his mother in the front row,
and he walks up to a podium. I've never ever, ever,
ever seen anybody have to do this, he apologized to
the entire planet. I mean, it was like a parole
hearing to me like it was mom right there.
Speaker 2: And he has.
Speaker 3: Lived under a microscope since he's been Oh it's terrible
two years old, you know. And what I'm thinking is
we don't actually know what normal looks like for Tiger.
Speaker 2: I just don't and and and and.
Speaker 3: Because I don't know that he's ever had a normal
I really known that now I can. I mean, I agreed,
driving drunk or impaired is absolutely the last thing you
should be doing in twenty twenty six, especially.
Speaker 4: For anybody, but especially if you have that kind of money.
Just get a personal driver. But he maybe have a bodyguard.
He's a bad driver, apparently apparently, But.
Speaker 3: Look, I said for years, that accident that happened when
he was racing out of somewhere in California, going through
the canyons and he went off the mountain, right, yeah,
and that they should have taken that Hyundai Gemini because
it was the Hundai Gemini Class or whatever it was.
It was named after the car, so they brought the car.
They should have taken that beat up car and put
it on display fucking everywhere for every golf tournament they
did to go, this guy walked away. This is how
safe our car is. Here's what he did, here's where
he went. He walked away because of our safety standards.
I mean, I gotta think that that there. Everybody said,
I don't know how he survived that going down. I mean,
you were they needed a crane to come in to
get the fucking car out of there. I was like,
you should have absolutely absolutely done that. And I'd say,
how has this not happened more often?
Speaker 4: If he's that better driver?
Speaker 3: Not with it, he's that batter driver, But if he
was on drugs with every it is with everything, you know,
because people instantly go and and we've said it here, right,
he should know better.
Speaker 2: He's done this before. What an idiot? And I go,
I don't know, this is complicated.
Speaker 3: He blew a zero point zero zero D When did
you take a muscle. He wouldn't take a urine test.
I mean, it's like everybody tells you not to, so
what blow?
Speaker 2: Are you getting?
Speaker 4: Interested?
Speaker 2: Right? And he did. So now they're like, well look
urine tests.
Speaker 4: I go, okay, if you're getting pills that whoever sell
them to you, Hey, you can blow, but don't take
a urine simple because he had to ask some questions.
Speaker 2: I don't think that. I mean, if you're a.
Speaker 4: Bar bill and you have two beers a first hour,
then one beer one every hour after that, by law
and wait, you should be okay to drive. Sure, we
know we know that from years of right.
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody's selling Tiger illegal pills.
Speaker 2: I would find that really hard to believe.
Speaker 3: I think that Tiger probably has still you know. I mean,
the guy's held together by titanium and duct tape these days,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I thought he's gonna play in the Masters.
Speaker 3: Well he was talking about it, but I mean he
even said, how many.
Speaker 4: Guys get their dick card from thinking Tiger's coming back?
Speaker 2: Guy, he's gonna do it.
Speaker 3: He's coming back because we want we all want to
see the hero. I mean, and that and that to me,
is like kind of the whole angle with this story.
We don't want nuance in a story. We want a villain,
we want a headline, we want a hero. That's what
we want. Somewhere in there.
Speaker 4: Everybody is waiting for Charlie Woods. Yes it's going to
be just as great as his father, but you can't
replicate it. I mean, I hope he wins twelve championships.
I have nothing better say. But when Tiger came out,
it was just yes, it was you know, and everybody
it was. I wasn't in a Tiger man.
Speaker 3: But the thing is, like I Tiger doesn't fit into
any of these categories anymore.
Speaker 2: He's not the hero. He's not really villain.
Speaker 4: I mean Tom Watson his last ten years, you know,
when he was in the running for a championship, people
railed against for him, not against him for him because
it was like your father, your grandfather winning, right, And
it wasn't that often too. And all of a sudden,
Tom Watson, I know that name. I watched him for
forty years. Sure, he's minus four, he's tied for the lead. What, yeah,
well we're not doing anything tomorrow. No, My my father's
eightieth person. No, No, we're watching it here tomorrow. I'm
not leaving the house. I mean, yeah, stuff like that.
I mean if John Daily came back, was on The
Masters or.
Speaker 2: Something like that, I mean, it would be the same thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I just think just what you root around, right, right,
But Tiger has had one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: And it's also the fact that we're getting older.
Speaker 3: So to see one of the guys who was young
and do it as an older guy.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Hey, that that's it.
Speaker 3: But we're talking about a guy who's had more surgeries,
more comebacks, and more apologies.
Speaker 2: Than any human being. If you haven't watched if you
ever watched.
Speaker 4: That, uh that biography on Tiger, it's on HBO, I believe,
and it is impressive. But that apology was at the
Masters after he got caught cheating and everything his mother and.
Speaker 2: Wherever it was. I just remember that.
Speaker 4: It was like I was watching Brian gumbole here's my
pen so much. I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 3: My my point just being like, I don't where it happened,
I don't know. All I know is that it was
an apology on Like they broke away from daytime programming
to go to this press conference. Okay, and I'm saying,
and to myself, I'm going, no human being has had
to do that. The fucking Catholic Church hasn't done that,
do you know what I'm saying. So that that's my
point is like this guy, we have no idea. That's
why I go, it's complicated, and you're like the the internet,
it's very easy and and and everybody's going to agree.
I mean, the guy's on the ESPN and everybody he's
shouldn't have done this news Well he's the headline, absolutely, but.
Speaker 4: For so long and like you say, he doesn't know
what normalcy is.
Speaker 3: Well, the thing is like to me, this is we
act like him making a bad decision is amazing.
Speaker 2: And I'm going.
Speaker 4: Same with Justin Timberlake.
Speaker 3: I mean, yes, well that one, but he was drunk
or or at the at the point. So here we
got a guy who blew zero on the breathalyzer.
Speaker 2: And I don't know is the thing.
Speaker 3: That I I mean, Look, Tiger's like, you know what
would be great, uh, with being the most famous athlete
in the world, how about a secret second life?
Speaker 2: And when he was fucking all these other women, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 3: I mean Okay, so we got a guy who is
open to bad decisions already is kind of a well, I.
Speaker 4: Know, he should never have got married. I mean, he's
the most popular guy in the world. And what they
had thirteen women on Jay Leno and they came out
with fifty more. I mean, yeah, that's not like scratching
the top.
Speaker 2: There's like sixty something women at the end that we
know of.
Speaker 4: But the most popular guy in the world.
Speaker 3: I mean, but we're going this. But my point is
we don't think he makes bad decisions.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not that this is where this is where
this is where we draw the line now. And he
didn't it wasn't drunk.
Speaker 3: So could it be that he had medication and didn't
realize what it was going to do to him?
Speaker 2: Did he take did he take something that I have
no IM.
Speaker 4: Sure his lawyer will explain anything that he should.
Speaker 3: I'm sure of course. And at the scene they said
he seemed lethargic. And again it's a very similar mugshot
to the mugshot that when he last got arrested.
Speaker 2: I think there was another arrest.
Speaker 3: Uh, it's not that far from the mugshot where Elon
had put a golf club or something to the back
of the window where she could have hit that.
Speaker 4: There was rumors that he she knocked his teeth out
that way. He did to see him for six months, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Right, But he's I mean, what do we know about
Tiger Woods. There's been lots of surgery. Is a golfer,
there's screws, there's titanium, he's one of the masters, there's
whatever CBS said behind the counter that told him together,
and he's I mean, it's almost like the man isn't
a isn't injured anymore, He's assembled, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2: Like that, that's it.
Speaker 3: Look, I don't want to be the guy that's defending Tiger.
He could have killed somebody, right, that could have happened.
You misjudge going around that turn. Or let's say there's
someone on a bikeile that you're not seeing as you
go around the truck, any any any number of things
and that and that matters. But if you think this
is just a guy making a bad choice, that's where
I go, You're missing the biggest story because the real
question is what does life look like when you've never
been allowed to really be human? And I don't know
how this guy has just goes goes through life.
Speaker 2: I don't know how he walks around. I you watch him,
so he.
Speaker 4: Does walk around.
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, well, I don't think so easily.
Speaker 4: He's that private property. I mean, you might know a
neighbor or two.
Speaker 3: But and I don't know where he was or where
he was coming from. It could have been, you know,
it could have been the clubhouse.
Speaker 2: Of the of the property that he lives on.
Speaker 3: They had you know, sometimes those developments have those and
and whatever, and and probably some kind of medication. But
I go, man, we do just fucking And I don't
know why. I don't want to beat him up for
some reason. And and like I said, somebody could have
been seriously injured, not just Tiger I did.
Speaker 4: Somebody asked last night, what do you think? I'm like,
you know, it doesn't matter what I think. It happened
in Florida didn't affect me. You know, he's obviously very
high profile. But if you would have found out that
he took a limo home and had drugs, you know,
I wasn't coherent to drive and I decided to take
a limbo home, I would have been applauding for him, right,
if you want to come over and come out with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. It's just it's interesting. So now
what happens? Does he get to play in the mask?
Cool to see forty seven? Think forty eight?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I'm not exactly sure how old Tiger
Woods is. I would just think that, and then he
was even I just saw the interview fifty years old.
Speaker 4: Birthday is December thirty fifty.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean you look at Nicholas and Watson and you
know Norman. I mean, they were playing into their sixties.
It is because of the injuries why he's not playing more.
And honestly, I would have thought he could have won
a couple more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people did.
Speaker 3: I mean look when he won and he goes up
and scoops up his son. When he won the Masters
more recently, that was a huge story.
Speaker 4: And net worth is one point five billion dollars call uber.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 3: But you know in that moment, you maybe you took
pills and you think you're fine. Who the fuck knows,
Maybe you're just tired.
Speaker 4: On your fourth time. I mean, come on, if you're
taking pills before you're taking pills again. Same way when
you and I go out drinking, Dougie, want another one? No,
I gotta go. I had four beers, two shots. I'm fine.
I'm gonna get home now, yeah, before it kicks in
or whatever. You know, I don't want because after anything
after that, I got an uber and I got a
big day. So you're making a choice as well.
Speaker 2: We all do.
Speaker 4: Anybody that almost say we all do. But if you
if you drink or have fun or gummies or smoke weed.
Speaker 2: Or yeah, I mean you're making sense.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that, I just don't know how this
hasn't happened more. You would think this guy would need
an escape, and being drunk or high or something it
certainly can give you that.
Speaker 4: Well, same as rockstar's part of a rockstar.
Speaker 2: But when it comes to pills, I'm just wondering if
it was I don't know. I have no idea.
Speaker 3: Could he have taken an ambient which is terrible and
you shouldn't have done it. Something will come out at
some point, we'll find out more. But I do find
it interesting.
Speaker 4: But he's on the news every hour on the hour.
Why no you found out anything? Now, there's no more
developments in the Tiger Woods, sitting.
Speaker 3: By the spot where the car is look at it.
He got to be moving right along.
Speaker 4: He's got fifteen majors, five Masters, four PGA Championships, three
US Open and three British Opens which they call the
Open now right, professional wins one hundred and ten. Yeah,
number of wins by tour eighty two, tied first all time,
got to be with Nicholson.
Speaker 3: So, I mean, what do you think bad move at terrible? Yeah,
terrible move bad for him, bad for golf. Bad does it?
Speaker 2: Does it tarnish his image? To me? This is if
a little bit.
Speaker 4: I mean, everybody was expecting him and wanting him to
come back, and you hear Tiger and ah, he's gonna
be the Master's m reform. I mean even if he
would have shot one hundred, one hundred and ten, right,
I mean, he's still going to have the biggest crowd
at the Masters following him. That's who he is. He's enormous, right,
I mean, that's that's one percent of the planet in
those shoes walking the course. You know, it's just everybody,
and I mean the PGA jumped on him. This is
our this is our golden boy. This is what's going
to take us. We're gonna he's He's going to make
us money.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and it did for a long long time.
Speaker 3: I think that's that's part of the problem with Tiger
is that I DIDs go. The enormous amount of pressure
that this guy has been under for a number of
years is something that I don't know that anybody could
really handle.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: He has navigated it, I think as well as anybody.
There have there been bad decisions. Yes, is he a
human being?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Is there the drug ones are harder to me to
excuse than the sex, which you know, because they were
not They weren't relationships.
Speaker 2: This is just getting late. Is it good for your marriage? No?
Speaker 3: Does it make you look like the family man that
you were out there? Are you a phoning? Are you
this show me that as a CEO? And are are
we surprised? I mean, we have a I don't ever
remember a president being sued by a porn star before.
You know, understand what I'm saying, And I'm not bringing
that up for any other reason than to say it's
just different. People don't give a fuck anymore about that stuff,
and so to me, this is clearly worse than that, right,
I mean, it's clearly worse than that. And that's and
I get it right. If the president drove drunk or
drove high, we would be out of our minds about this.
That would be probably something where a lot of people
think more.
Speaker 4: I think more people would be out of the if
the president didn't Tiger Woods. More people be out of
their minds with Tiger Wood. Was because you say so
many people that that is their hero.
Speaker 3: Right, No, No, I'm saying that. I do think in
a political landscape, I think it would make a lot
of people go what the fuck? Now?
Speaker 2: You know, what is this? And then we find out.
Speaker 4: Who's the guy that his wife had cancer? Then they
found out he was cheating at her. I can't think
of his name, but there again, it's.
Speaker 3: Tall, skinny guy was up to be the Democratic nominee
for president.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my wife is cancer, I'm cheating at her.
Speaker 3: Well it came out, yeah, because I think it was
the Inquirer. And I always laughed because I go the
Inquirer for all their alien you know.
Speaker 2: Bigfoot bullshit.
Speaker 3: They also had some They broke a lot of stories,
a lot of the deeper Oh yeah.
Speaker 4: They said they helped an awful out with the oj oh.
Speaker 2: I believe that.
Speaker 3: I believe that where I but I think they've they've
broke political stories. They're that's not the only political scandal.
There was a guy, Gary Hart. Gary Hart was supposed
to be this big thing, and then the The Inquirer
found out and it was no, no, Jessica Han I
thought was with Baker Baker, Yes, yeah, no, but it
was someone It was another attractive blonde woman or whatever,
more fitting to the style of the time.
Speaker 4: And you know, they said that the person that ruined
it was Nixon because everybody knew that Kennedy was falling
around with Maryland and some other women and like being
the press are like, well, we're not gonna We're not
gonna make this public. And then everybody found out Nixon
was lying, and they're like, well, now the gloves are
off for whatever we find out, we're going to report.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was one theory. It could be.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I can tell you, like that,
how much the world has changed. Guys are dropping out
of presidential racist because they have extram marital affairs. Now
we have a president who was sued by a porn
star and everybody looks the other way.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying things have evomb I wasn't looking the
other way. It was looking.
Speaker 4: I was looking right into your eyes.
Speaker 2: Bill, I was.
Speaker 4: I was giving it. I was beating it down. I was.
Speaker 2: Isn't it weird?
Speaker 3: Though when you think about it, like, like, honestly, I
look at it. It's the same thing as weed. It was
the most horrible thing you could do. Don't do it,
don't this, don't that. Uh, And now all of a
sudden it's legalized, and it's almost the same.
Speaker 4: They're beating Trump down because okay, he banged Stormy McDaniels
whatever her name is. But you know, Clinton got a
blowjob in the office and they both got impeached. I mean,
it's it's a seesaw.
Speaker 2: And that was a that was a huge deal too.
That was a huge deal.
Speaker 4: So you looked at his wife and like, I'd take
a no, But.
Speaker 3: I mean the president doing that, the manipulate all of that,
it was not good and it didn't. But I think
now if these things happened, we just go is he
the best person for the job. I don't care who
got hurt, right if it or now, it's none of
our business all of a sudden.
Speaker 4: What does phase people nowadays?
Speaker 2: I think this.
Speaker 4: I think that it has to be that big for
people to turn their head and take no interesting I.
Speaker 2: Think, do I think on any level? I do. Even
if it's like here, if we think that there's.
Speaker 3: Anybody like a public figure that think of Santra Doorley
and what altered state she was or was not in
when she pulled in her garage and she didn't pull over.
Speaker 2: People were outraged, outraged by that.
Speaker 3: Right, But if Sandra Dorley had an affair or was
caught even having sex in the back of the.
Speaker 2: Car or whatever, Well, if you're.
Speaker 4: Having sex in the back of the car and then
you roll down the hill, that's a double.
Speaker 2: Bubble, right, there's a double bubble.
Speaker 3: But even that, or and if she came back stone
cold sober, I think there people will go, eh, none
of my business.
Speaker 2: Really, I mean, you don't understand what I'm saying. Do
you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Where we used to like Kennedy, they knew we keep
it quiet, right, And I think back then, according to
some the press was trying to bring it out and
they shut it down. Yeah, like they shut it down
now there nobody had that stuff out there.
Speaker 2: Now it's just like.
Speaker 4: That TMZ three miles zone. If it happens within the air,
we're taking pictures, We're gonna be up your ass. I'll
be hanging outside, but you know, the paparazzi.
Speaker 2: On this shoar.
Speaker 3: So my point with this is I don't think Tiger's
bad decision with women is the worst thing he did,
at least by today's standards.
Speaker 2: I think the worst thing he's doing is putting himself.
Speaker 4: If you take Tiger and all his bad decisions, I
would not say sleeping around would be a number one,
but probably top three.
Speaker 3: But look, did he not have to sit? And again
I don't even remember what year that was. We could
find out, but I don't remember it was like so
even if we go back and I'm going to say
it had.
Speaker 2: Was it five? God?
Speaker 1: Was it?
Speaker 2: No? No?
Speaker 3: No no, no, oh, I'm no, I'm thinking that he was. Uh, well,
we can we have a thinking box right in front
of us.
Speaker 2: We could find it.
Speaker 4: Did Tiger apologize twenty ten? Delivered it held by his apology?
Speaker 2: Okay, so.
Speaker 3: Sixteen years ago, sixteen years ago, So sixteen years ago,
we were still doing that and now we don't do it.
And they tried with Trump, they tried to make them
look bad.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: They brought to give it, they tried, I tried. I'm
not saying it for any other reason. I think nobody.
It's not as impactful anymore as it used to be.
I mean, that was a big deal back in the
day Jesus Christ, somebody was called banging around.
Speaker 2: And it would still be like on a micro scale,
I'm talking to Macro.
Speaker 4: It's amazing how our standards have lower year after.
Speaker 2: Year after year.
Speaker 3: But I'm saying, like, on a micro if you heard
your buddy got caught cheating, or your buddy's wife was cheating,
it puts a pit in your stomach, puts pit in
your stomach because you're connected emotionally to these people into
that story. But when it's somebody like this, I don't know,
Tiger Woods, but people fucking were outraged, outraged over the
sex thing, to the point where he had to have
that whole thing.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, I thought that was awful.
I don't thought thought it was awful. But he shouldn't try.
Speaker 4: You put him up on a pedestal. It's your old
fault if you're looking up to this guy like a
god or something, and.
Speaker 3: Well, that's my point is he's a human being. Did
he do amazing things? Yes, dedicated to his whole life.
I remember reading an article where he was backstage at
a Utube concert and allegedly, according to the article, how
do you really prove this, but the reporter said they
saw it. He asked to see a copy of the
playlist so that way he could mention songs when he
meant the band, because he didn't know any of their songs.
And I don't think it had anything to do other
than when's he sitting down to listen to music? This
guy became a fucking corporation. You don't get one point
five billion dollars. All he did was play golf right
and play it. Well, that's it, that's all he did. Well,
that's what I'm saying, because you did this one thing.
Speaker 2: Better than anybody.
Speaker 3: His whole life was dedicated to doing something better than anybody,
anybody in the world, and he did so for a
while for a long time. Yeah, yeah, for quite a while.
So that's all. And you're right, you your whole take
on it is is absolutely right wrong. No, no, no, I think
you're absolutely right if I mean, the bottom line is
someone could have gotten seriously hurt or who says he
didn't go through somebody's front window and Grandma's watching I
don't know, you know, Jeopardy at night, and all of
a sudden, she's fucking smushed into the television and it's
part of the plasma. TV has Grandma's plasma in it,
you know.
Speaker 2: What I mean. Like, you can't, you just can't. You
can't justify it. I get it. But at the same time,
I'm like, hold on a fucking second.
Speaker 3: The guy's made bad decisions before, right, Yeah, your tiger
was the most famous planet person on the planet and
you're picking up fucking Perkins waitresses, Like, come on, dude,
that's my point. So that's all all right, take a moment.
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Speaker 3: Aug get Rash do what it as always, Dougie Fresh Doug.
I've got a story that sounds completely insane, completely insane.
Speaker 4: Mark Sane, Mark Hillman in a threesome.
Speaker 2: Uh, New York.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 2: Look give you my goodness.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this story and then somehow it gets even more
complicated the more you look at the story. Okay, okay.
There is a pastor in South Africa, a pastor, a pastor, pastor,
pastor of the church. Okay, you got it, who claims
he heals people through faith.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll do it, including.
Speaker 3: Sitting on them. Fop and allegedly farting on them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't like the story.
Speaker 3: Already people are lining up waiting months months. But now
some of his own followers are saying, yeah, I came
for prayer, not this. Yeah okay, And to me, that's
where it gets interesting.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: As a pastor, UH pastor Chris Penelope has gone viral
for this, for his controversial healing methods, that's what it is.
Some members have spoken out saying they came for prayer,
not this, and they've even stopped attending, even though the
pastors are condemning, saying it's it isn't biblical and warning
people not to be misled. And I go, I don't
think people are stupid, you don't know.
Speaker 2: I think that they're desperate. I think they need to be.
Speaker 4: Healed that much. I don't believe that a pastor sits
on your chest. It's on your face.
Speaker 2: Maybe somebody did something.
Speaker 4: In farts and you think the like the I don't
father the ghosts and the Holy Spirit, excuse me save
this woman from ken.
Speaker 3: I think that they're showing up because they're struggling. I
think they're hurting.
Speaker 4: Mary, give me your crutches and start walking towards me.
Speaker 2: I think there's what you brought it up. I know
about to go.
Speaker 4: They're looking for something day this daily bread and forgive
those who trespassed. Excuse me trespass against says, where was
I trespassed?
Speaker 3: I think anything that works, I really do, and I
and I go when life gets hard enough, I really
really really and you tell me.
Speaker 4: Okay, what's he eating? Before church? Those wafers say, hey,
out every Sunday and for our communion, we'd like to
sing super Mary and Bob around with.
Speaker 3: I really think that hope gets gets louder than logic.
I think that's why some people turn to selling drugs
and ship. They're just selling drugs, are using drugs selling
I think both, but even selling like to just go.
I got nothing else. I can't get hired. I'm not
doing that. Whatever it is.
Speaker 2: You don't think so I do. And I just think
that that hope becomes the.
Speaker 4: I don't think that's out of desperation. I believe that's
out of laziness.
Speaker 3: Sometimes sometimes, but I go, there are so many programs
out there.
Speaker 4: If you have a negative, I'll give you a positive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. And if a random guy did this
on the street to be arrested. I mean right, I
mean they get paid for us. But if if you
got a title pastor, leader, man of.
Speaker 4: God, I mean, now, is that why they call him Pews?
Speaker 3: And I go when you have those titles, people don't hesitate,
they rationalize, I really do.
Speaker 4: I really the same way you said if you have
a white Cota and you don't question.
Speaker 2: It because exactly because they're the ones.
Speaker 4: There's somebody to be questioned.
Speaker 2: It should be.
Speaker 3: We want to talk about Uh this guy right, absurd,
absurd that he's parting. But please, somebody look at the
Catholic church. Priests were the scene as almost deities, human deities.
The priests coming over for dinner was a big deal,
you know, when my dad was growing up, and the
fact that they got away with all this shit like
it was he couldn't possibly father so and so, couldn't pie.
Speaker 2: He would never do that.
Speaker 3: That's not right because again it goes back to the
titles pastor, leader, man of God, priest leader, man of.
Speaker 4: God, who you're going to put your trust in, exactly,
And so maybe that's what Tiger should be, Yes, should
be Yeah, pastor Woods. Yeah, I don't I'm Pastor Woods.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, some people, some people tolerate it,
some people go nope, I'm out, and other people are like, I.
Speaker 2: Can't believe there's a line.
Speaker 4: I just can't believe somebody wouldn't be like, you know what,
we'll find if it's one thing I've heard when it
comes to churches, and we just didn't like that, Pastor,
we just didn't feel it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you change it.
Speaker 4: It's a relationship. You want to believe, and you want
trust and you want to feel good. I mean, that's
what church is. And to give you some life lessons.
I believe the tench Commandments. Do you know all tench commandments?
Speaker 2: I don't. You don't know. Hold on, I know.
Speaker 3: I mean, now, thou shalt not killed, Thou shallt not steal,
Thou shall not come to another man's wife.
Speaker 4: I don't like that one. She lived in Spencerport for Christ.
When those apostles start filling my gas tank, okay, I'll
go to that one.
Speaker 2: But I mean, you know what I'm saying, And so
I think there's a lot of that stuff.
Speaker 4: But Charltons, oh no, we don't.
Speaker 2: Well, this is the time of year you get to
watch it don't you.
Speaker 4: I love the time.
Speaker 2: I know. I just think we don't.
Speaker 4: Judge behavior, we judge who's doing. Those shall not have
other gods before me. Okay, thou should not make yourself
an idol. Those should not take the name Lord in vain,
God in vain. Now that one I follow, I don't say,
g D gosh damn. Really try that one. Now that
I'm Catholic or in a church train thing, remember the
Sabbath day and keep it holy, honor your mother and
your father. Thou shall not murder, Thou shalt not commit adulterrio.
That one was broken a long time ago and as
often as they could.
Speaker 2: Ah.
Speaker 4: Hey, yeah, if he was taking care of business.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, the head commandments had to have a
if we all lived by them, yeah, it would be
a nice safe world.
Speaker 2: We don't.
Speaker 4: Well, there's no uh right, drinking and driving.
Speaker 2: On here, no, right, But I think there's things like,
you know.
Speaker 4: You will not steal steel, you will write false witness
to your neighbor, well false, and you won't covert your
neighbor's belongings.
Speaker 2: Yeah, including his wife. Right. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I just uh, I think if the right person says,
it's meaningful whatever it is. And I know that it's
cult sounding, but look at the number of cults for
a while. There are people who stop asking if it's ridiculous,
and they just go along for the ride, and it's still.
Speaker 4: Thing to be welcome. You got it in that circle?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I think everybody has a breaking point,
I really do. I think like I can't take anymore.
And here we are, yeah, fucking far of me because I.
Speaker 2: Can't take this saving your diabetes, No excuse me. It might.
Speaker 4: What if he gets a little too much into the well,
the thing is the thermon and ships on your chest.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I'm just thinking digckleberries and all this stuff.
Speaker 2: But I mean how, I mean, how long did this line?
You have?
Speaker 4: That many farts?
Speaker 2: Like, I don't will I don't know. I don't know.
If you go once a month and then you just
eat a ton.
Speaker 4: Of you know, what if you can't go that day,
I don't Nobody gets saved, you know, Charlie walks out here,
he's still got cancer. You gotta wait till next Sunday
when the reverend has gas.
Speaker 3: I think we all think we'd walk away immediately, right,
we'd walk away imediately. That's a little until we're standing
in it and it doesn't know. I mean, this is
a bad this is an example. But I really think
you can This isn't South Africa.
Speaker 2: I said in the beginning. Oh, I did not hear. No, No,
it's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 3: I only say that because it was part of the story.
Speaker 4: I did not hear that it's a south half makes
it any more sense, No, it.
Speaker 2: Doesn't, because human beings are human beings.
Speaker 4: I think sometimes there are still tribes out there that
do things that are just blow your mind. Yeah, watching
the Discovery channel that you can't turn away from.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: The last one I saw was tribe and I think
this was in Africa, maybe it was in Brazil or something.
They honor alligators, and I think at fourteen or fifteen
years old, they carve into your body and make tattoos
or not tattoos.
Speaker 2: But raised skin.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, and such a horrific uh procedure. But they
think it takes you into manhood. Yeah, I'm like fuck that. Well,
I'll have this guy fright on my chest. And those
are my choices.
Speaker 3: But there are also some things that were healing practices
that were starting the leeches.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I used to think leeches would suck the bad
out of it.
Speaker 3: But they still write, But they still use leeches sometimes
in surgeries and things to stop the excessive bleeding and
try to put.
Speaker 4: A right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, modern day world, I'm pretty sure that, yeah, that
there's been leeches, and I know they were used the machine.
Speaker 2: Let's see, uh it is used.
Speaker 4: Nurse Betty any scalpel and three leaches. Oh here you go, doctor.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Medicinal leeches are used in modern reconstructive and plastic
surgery as a specialized FDA approved medical device to salvage tissue.
Speaker 2: That as is at risk of necrosis due to.
Speaker 3: Uh venious congestion. In other words, they're going to suck
the blood through those veins that we normally I don't know,
she looks great, she looks. They are typically imp employed
following microsurgery to reattach digits, fingers, and toes.
Speaker 2: So if you lost a finger, they put it back.
Speaker 3: The leech sucking the blood there kind of gets it
to the other vein and so now, yeah, reattached fingers.
Speaker 4: It keeps the blood flowing where it should be. Yes, okay,
almost a natural thing, I guess.
Speaker 3: Yeah, ears noses their lips where re establishing the shoulders
and toes. Then his outflow is more challenging than ourterial
So yeah, isn't that interesting.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, yes, you're right.
Speaker 3: So there's a practice who found that out the oswaganda
here and or that's the herb uh the canon Dagua tribe.
Speaker 4: Or whatever, you know, more Louisiana.
Speaker 2: But maybe. But I'm like, wow, this is it's crazy.
Speaker 3: And but there's other like healing things that they did
that are sort of making a comeback. I mean just
simply like sitting and breathing is now getting scientific proof
that it helps calm you and calm your mind and
let you kind of step back. And I mean that's
spending one and fuck that meditationous you look all right,
but now they're showing you.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm just saying when I'm sitting at.
Speaker 4: My recliner night and going through the reels and looking
at different videos, there is one that has got a ball.
It's on the line it says breathe in yeah, yeah,
and hold.
Speaker 3: It yeah breathing yeah.
Speaker 2: Is that what it's called called box breathing? If they
have you go for a certain amount of time.
Speaker 4: And then I think it's like ten seconds, hold it
for five, let it out, and then at the end,
so I'm watching it, I'm like, okay, I'll try this.
Then you kind of find yourself doing it, and what
do you think? I enjoy it, and then they forget
about it till I see the video. But I mean
I'm in the moment in the intro, the nose out
through the mouth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's box breathing. That's what it's called.
Speaker 4: I just when you're working out. Yeah, oh, when you're
working somebody said we were walking in the cold. I
don't know when, a couple of weeks ago, and I, oh,
it's fucking cold out here. I'm like, well, actually cold weather,
cold is good for your your body. It helps you
make new blood. That's why boxers used to to train
in Colorado and elevated heights.
Speaker 2: That clearly all did, I mean the cyclist everybody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it's just interesting, right that these ancient things. Yeah,
they're finding like sometimes they fucking leeches were still being use.
Speaker 2: I had a little bit basic. Yeah, health.
Speaker 4: Suggestions are still the best. Ice it stretch every morning, yeah,
which I don't do, which you should do. I can
tell yeah, walking all hunch the grab your crank and
remember the doctor story, doctor story, Yes, yanked a hundred times.
Speaker 3: Look, we could laugh at it all, this fucking story.
It's the most ridiculous thing.
Speaker 4: But now when you say South Africa, I mean if
it's a tribe or something.
Speaker 2: No, it's not. It's a bad no.
Speaker 3: And other priests are going or pastors of churches are going,
you're giving us all a bad name.
Speaker 2: You got to stop this shit.
Speaker 3: It's not it's not yesh, but you're doing it.
Speaker 2: And but the real story to me is how far.
Speaker 3: People will go, how long they'll stay right, and what
finally makes them say, yeah, I'm out. That's the part
that the fact that there's a line allegedly right right,
because we all have a line where we're not going
to do it. But the problem is most of us
don't know where that is until we cross it and go, well,
I'd never do that again. And my favorite part of
the guy goes, I came here for prayer. I came
here for prayer. That may be the most polite way
just to say to take your fucking ass away from me.
Speaker 2: Don't ever ever, you.
Speaker 4: Know what if you just read a page of the
Bible a day, would you get through it in a year?
You know, if that's what you need and find something
in there. Yeah, yeah, it's no different than Laking ac
DC the Deaf Leopard of Chicago if that's your favorite band.
The same way with finding somebody that gives you healing
spirit and brings you closer to God and the whole
zin about yourself, Dougie Fresh Cathedral.
Speaker 3: I don't know, well anyway, I just thought I go mad,
Douggle because I know you don't like fart jokes.
Speaker 2: But I knew, I knew, I know.
Speaker 4: It. Just it just seems absurd that there's a line
and this guy can magically fight not magically, but he's
gonna fight on everybody. I mean, what do you say
in between? I want to see the whole thing? You know,
what are you reading between the name of God? The
Holy goes? There you go, Sarah, now you can walk? Well, sorry,
more beans next time.
Speaker 3: But I mean, look, take it away from the farting
pastor and let's turn it to the Ponzi scheme.
Speaker 4: Well, or maybe putting the hand is feel the power
of God through me?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: And I don't even I don't mean it like in
a negative way, right, Okay, feel the power God for me.
But my point is like there are other things that
we buy into. We believe in people who are confident
and speak confidently, even to the point we're in some
parts of the world they're letting you far on them.
That's all I'm saying. It's like there's you know, like
the same thing that we believe. The guy in the
white lab coat, he goes, well, he's the doctor, he
went to school. We're not going to question that, right,
And then some people do question it, and then we go, well,
what the fuck are you doing? He's the doctor, right,
and so even here and I go, yeah, it's it's absurd.
Speaker 2: Who the fuck?
Speaker 3: If some I used to run in college, I would
run into somebody's room, jump up on their bed, far
on their pillow and run out right stupid thing to do,
and guys would get pissed.
Speaker 2: So and then so keep doing it.
Speaker 3: That was part of the thing, right, Who knew, Hey, man,
one guy got a girlfriend out of that.
Speaker 4: Father.
Speaker 3: Yes, so I just to me, but I go, we
leave people at every look. The Catholic Church, to me,
was the greatest example you had kids being harmed. I'm
sure some kids are like, hey man, you won't believe this.
Oh he would never, he would never really happened? Yes,
well they no, not not no, not like you should
not to them. And the Catholic Church started moving people
around thinking, well, if we we.
Speaker 4: Take Reverend Bob from this church and put him an
eye on his church, right he does it? Turn the
lights out?
Speaker 2: Bili?
Speaker 4: Do you want to blow out the candles?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Sure, I shouldn't laugh at that, but I mean, you're right.
And that's my point is that we just believe people blindly.
This is an absurd example, but take it away. You
can think of anything that maybe you believe something at
some point or believed. I don't mean that like a
faith wise, but let's say there was somebody you believed
in that was gonna, you know, make it. He had
he's big drama mom on your bandwagon, buddy, I give
you some money, I'm gonna do this, and the next
thing you know, it's like he just disappears or whatever happened.
And that's why I said Ponzi scheme, because there's a
lot of I mean, look the Bernie Madoff stuff. I
mean that that hurt the New York Mets. He was
the guy who ran a big Ponzi scheme and when
it all came crashing down, it was devastating to many many,
many people because they thought they had money and it
was all just a shell game for him. And then
it came crashing down and he wound up in But
I think he's I think he died. But he was
in prison for an extremely long time. And I don't
know that anybody really, I mean, I don't think people
pull this shit alone.
Speaker 2: So I think there's other people who are aware.
Speaker 3: But I think that circles tight and small, tight and
small the way I like it, And that was coming.
Speaker 2: But yeah, and I do, and and but that guy,
I mean, it was the New York Mets. It was
all these things. They lost fucking millions of dollars.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was with the New York Mets.
Speaker 3: He was no he had a he had an investment firm,
and he ran a Ponzi scheme where he was saying, Doug,
I can turn your twenty five thousand dollars into one
hundred thousand dollars in a real brief time.
Speaker 2: We've got a great track record.
Speaker 3: Look at this is our stuff, here's our clients, here's
who got boom, give me your money.
Speaker 2: And he did that. And what he would do is go, like.
Speaker 3: You know, live off of it and then get somebody
else and then take their money and pay you back.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: And then the Mets invested, Yeah they were. It was
at the time like a payroll. Like a lot of
times if you're part of a union or whatever, they
invest or they invest your pension. So over years they
did that. He fucking wiped out people's mention, like, well,
wiped it out, Doug, it was gone.
Speaker 4: And never comes back.
Speaker 2: No was another one, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, I don't know how to have one
as well. But yeah, and so you go, what in
the fuck?
Speaker 2: But yet we believed this guy.
Speaker 3: Why because he came in and spoke confidently and had
this track record and I don't know finances as well.
My job is, you know, teaching classes or whatever it is.
And that's what you believe in, right, And I go.
Speaker 2: Okay, a guy farting on me to heal me, not
so much. But these other things. I think it's just
sort of a universal thing, right, that's all.
Speaker 3: You know, You get the get the title, get the
job there you go. I would actually, I got to.
Speaker 2: Tell you this.
Speaker 3: Tell me I may, I may, you may if this
were happening even in our area, I may go to
that church you at the front of me. Why because
I just I would want to film that experience. I
want to film it. I want to see all the people.
I want to see who's buying into it.
Speaker 4: I want to know in front of you, I get
a turf toe, I got hemorrhoids.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you too, Doug.
Speaker 3: I am so curious about human beings that I would
want to go and.
Speaker 2: If I had to fund me for you so you
can go down. I don't want to go South, but
you want to fly.
Speaker 3: Him here because I got so many You have to
get so many shots and things when you go to Africa. Yeah,
I don't know about South Africa, but I'm pretty sure
my mom has gone to Africa and stuff and yeah.
So God, there's all kinds of just different things, and
I know malaria is one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's I went out.
Speaker 4: With the malaria Mallory, go ahead.
Speaker 3: I I I think I would go get farted on,
and then I would be like, I don't know if
I want to buy into it and go at work
here's the other thing that's fucked up. And I'm gonna
say this because this is another scientifically proven thing as
I'm sitting here talking.
Speaker 2: About it, the placebo effect. You know what the placebo is? Right?
Speaker 4: Really?
Speaker 3: Okay, So if it's if I there have been medical
studies that have been done that if I explain to
you what a certain medication is doing for you, whether.
Speaker 2: It be a.
Speaker 3: Medicine for something like anxiety or something like liver failure, right,
that it actually works better because you buy into it. Yes,
placebo is you think you're on the medicine but it's
a sugar pill.
Speaker 2: You're right, right, yes, And I don't.
Speaker 3: And there's so many times in studies where they go
the placebo got just as we well, why because you
believe the medicine.
Speaker 2: So it's all about what you truly believe.
Speaker 3: If that doesn't show you that that all life has
lived in your fucking head, it's crazy. So if someone
truly believes that this motherfucker's back end wind is gonna
you know, save that I don't know. I don't know
that they're kidneys whatever, and it does. All he needs
is one, All he needs is one. But that person
believe in so verb so much. Yeah, I wonder if
he sells like I think.
Speaker 4: Can can fart.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you knew exactly where I was going.
Speaker 3: I'm wondering if he's got you know, I can't get
to all you today, but please feel.
Speaker 4: Fair all these handkerchiefs.
Speaker 3: Yes, please come in for a mere twenty five dollars.
We have jarred, I have farted in these jars and
it has been.
Speaker 4: Just fifteen fans behind him and drops his trial and
just farts out a whole congregation. I'm healing everybody today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't, you can't.
Speaker 3: I mean, I would hope that it was the worst, deadliest,
deadliest far.
Speaker 2: You know, what would be a great experiment is to no.
Speaker 3: Seriously take a ad out on Craigslist. I know it's
I know, I know it's not as popular as it
used to be taken. And just say that you were
pastor so and so, and you have had a visit
from the Lord and the Lord bless your asshole. Uh,
you know, you were sleeping and the Lord came.
Speaker 2: Down, thought your head was on the pillow, but you
were at the other end of the bed.
Speaker 3: Bless your asshole. And now now if you are desperate.
If you have diabetes, glaucoma, can't walk, if you are
dealing with you know, any kind of.
Speaker 4: Ailment, hemorrhoids, asteroids, low gas, mile, you come right over
to my house, Dougie, Fred's gonna put it one on here.
All you do is lay down, lift your shirt up.
Excuse me, and we're gonna make the Lord God come
from my ass to your chest and heal you today.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, breast cancer, whatever it is, you come and
I and my back end, my back end, the wind
that comes up.
Speaker 4: I could just say, let me rub one off on
your chest and there you go, rub it in the
there you go.
Speaker 3: I have the healing lotion God. Yes, you could say
I have got my patented two ball elickture.
Speaker 2: You're terrible.
Speaker 4: We got easter right around it.
Speaker 2: I understand. But my point is that people are desperate.
Speaker 3: People are desperate, and that is the part that this
is where.
Speaker 2: We get mad.
Speaker 3: But come on, Jim and Tammy fay Baker, all the
televangelists for fucking ever, come on, come the fuck on,
so we've all.
Speaker 4: I mean, you got to hear Sam Kinnison if you
ever remember him, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, oh god, he went off on the fucking uh
Jerry's kids.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, he brought some kid out. You're giving him,
You're giving him a show. Yeah, that's what you want. Yes,
he took that and went to comedy and Steve Martin
and ever if you ever saw a leap of faith.
He plays an evangelist, a traveling paster with Debora Winger
and Elea and Neeson plays a cop and they're having
this talk outside his bus. He goes, you know what,
New York City, you get sixty dollars for this show?
Speaker 2: I just gave you.
Speaker 4: He goes, right now, they're giving me five ten dollars
and they're going they're leaving feeling good about them. Right,
The God is with them. What is a harm in that?
Speaker 2: None? None in a way, right, I mean except for
the fact that you.
Speaker 4: Know, I mean, how many people throughout the history of
the world have used God in a bad way.
Speaker 2: Look, there are.
Speaker 3: We've talked about natural healers and stuff. There are people
that make money as shaman and reiki and all that.
Speaker 2: Is there anything tangible?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: It can it help?
Speaker 3: It seemed to have been scientifically proven that yes, there
are people who benefit from it. Is that everybody know
why because they probably don't fully buy in and it
is all about your mind. So that makes you say,
can I heal myself? Do I have that own power
to heal myself? And the answer is I think yes.
I often think that the God conversation is fucked up.
I think the Bible was misinterpreted in some ways, and
it's been interpreted through so many languages. How could it
not be? How could it not be? And written at
different times in the world, the different times, so how could.
Speaker 2: It not be?
Speaker 3: But I do think that they're finding more and more
that Jesus like, yeah, yeah, you're all made of the Father.
You all have the same abilities as me. You all
could do this, but you have to be focused pure divine,
nothing else.
Speaker 2: And that's it.
Speaker 4: I don't know, but to err is human?
Speaker 2: Right? Well, so did he he sinned? You know? I mean, yeah,
what do you do?
Speaker 3: He was weeping in the garden because he sinned, And
I forgot what the sin was. I not Mary Magdalene
on the end, I don't remember, but there was something.
There was something and.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if Mary was, but there were prostitutes.
Speaker 3: Yes, we'll take a moment. I want to do something
a little different, okay, and we'll get to that right after.
They never think you're gonna need a personal injury attorney
until you do. It's not something you plan for. You know,
one minute, you're just living your life.
Speaker 2: Do do next thing? You know you're dealing with.
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of stress you didn't ask for. And here's the truth.
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Speaker 2: Because when it matters most, you want someone in your
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what do we have in store for around number four?
Speaker 3: Oh you know what, I wanted to find that Sam
Kennison bit I forgot, Well, well we got another time.
Speaker 2: No, I wanted to do something a little different where
you know, we spent.
Speaker 3: A lot of time when you're on uh kind of
busting your chops about the deviled eggs and those sorts
of things, uh, you know.
Speaker 2: Strip club DJ days.
Speaker 3: We've talked about those bartender uber driver when the cars
working properly.
Speaker 2: Right, We've we've talked about all.
Speaker 3: That aspiring comedian who I think you have got a
lot of talent in that area in my opinion.
Speaker 4: Then definitely using Jack Rabbit a joke tonight.
Speaker 3: But I've realized something we don't. Oh that's where you
got to show tonight. I got to show what time
is that?
Speaker 2: Seven? I get six started, let's get let's wipe this
up real quick.
Speaker 3: And then but I realized someone, we we have talked
about what you do, and I was going, I don't
know if we've ever really talked about who.
Speaker 2: Doug is.
Speaker 3: In a sense, like what actually makes you tick? Do
you understand what I'm saying? Yeah, Like, because here's the
deal and other people live in this space as well.
You're fifty five single, you're losing weight, right, I wrote
down trying to lose weight, but you're losing weight. It
seems like life's throwing a lot of curve balls right now.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think there's something really interesting in that space when
you're not twenty five trying to figure it out, but
you're also not fifty five?
Speaker 2: Well, what is that like?
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, and I'm sort of there too, right
because I'm doing this and I'm back at school and
I'm not right and I'm trying to figure it out.
How many times are you fucking just move the lights
today for you right right?
Speaker 4: Trying to make me look that's a tough job in
the self.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, you're not young.
Speaker 3: I'm not young, and I go, it's interesting, and I'm
just curious, like, what does a good day for Doug
Phelps look like.
Speaker 2: Like right now? For you know, and.
Speaker 4: Waking up refreshed?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, a good day? Yeah? Or what are
you ailes? And laughter? Yeah? What do you are?
Speaker 3: You do you feel like you're chasing anything at this
point in life?
Speaker 4: My goals, I've got to start working on the Breast
Cancer Bowl, the prizes for that, Yeah, catch up with it.
I have not had a.
Speaker 2: Car, but I mean let's say, like, yeah, well my
goals aren't car.
Speaker 3: Are you trying to get Like I'm just trying to
get depth free This year that was my that I
have a plan for that.
Speaker 4: The plan was in motion last year. Yeah, didn't work
out like I wanted. Yeah, so this year I'm yeah, just.
Speaker 2: Get out of debt.
Speaker 4: I mean, and I'm not that I'm not fifty one
hundred thousand dollars in debt. I'm very little, but just
to get ahead and stay ahead, I guess, and see
where comedy goes, have some more time focus on that.
When you when you're not making money, it's tough to
focus on anything else, writing something funny when you you're
seeing the bill, when you're do next week and you
can't you know what I mean. Yeah, And to force
yourself to go through that sometimes is tougher than you think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that these there is I think
there's a whole group of guys that kind of live
in that space as well, or some variation, but very similar.
And I think it's something that nobody talks about. Honestly, honestly,
I'd like.
Speaker 4: To get a forty five minutes hour set of comedy
together and take myself and send it to cruise lines
and see about maybe getting a job on there.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, yes, that's one goal, right, But here's
the thing is, like you are you bring energy? You
do those intros here, right, you were a strip club, DJ,
the bartending, the comedy, those are all those these things.
But I go, that's your highlight reel. Well, what's Doug like?
When Doug is not on display? Who are you? Because
you I mean, think about it. Bartending, bartending, you're on display?
Speaker 2: Yeah, DJ and wedding pretty boring.
Speaker 4: When I'm home, it's not funny. I like watching movies
whatever catches my Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: What would you say people get wrong about you? Is
there anything? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think when they say you shouldn't feel that way,
you're oh, you're mad. You're mad at me? Like, I'm
not mad at you. I hate when people tell me
my feelings, well you're not saying anything.
Speaker 2: Well, doesn't mean I'm mad at you.
Speaker 4: They misinterpret who I am, right, and like if I'm
not joking or laughing, they know that I'm just you know,
just one of those days because I'm usually always joking
or laughing, right, you know, And I've tried to tell
that back. I don't always have to say something that
doesn't always have to be a joke. But what am
I doing at home? I generally watching movies?
Speaker 3: Are you would you say? Would you say you're more
introverted than people would think? Yeah, isn't that funny?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I'm not always on the go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because this is sort of it's a contrast between
that fun guy.
Speaker 4: I do get stir crazy and cabin fever and wish
i'd be outside more and not so much at a
bar anymore because I think that time has passed. But
golfing or casino or doing something I seem to want
to be doing something I found this week. I was
really getting bored without being able to work this week
and try to keep active.
Speaker 3: So is that the hardest part, if you're being real, Yeah,
just not being able to be as active as.
Speaker 2: I wrote some comedy down this week. How do you turn? Like?
Speaker 3: Or I guess the question wouldn't be how do you turn?
But how do you not let a negative?
Speaker 2: Oh? It's tough to.
Speaker 4: Turn beyond my LB on my mind yeah, and I
can't get out. I can't get it out of my mind.
Speaker 2: I wish I could.
Speaker 4: Some people just let roll, let it roll off your back. Yeah,
not me.
Speaker 2: Well and dwell on it.
Speaker 4: I think, because I don't have other things to think about, family, wife, everything.
So that's one thing.
Speaker 2: Well do you ever feel stuck?
Speaker 4: Oh I have?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Or do you feel like something's coming? That's a
good thing.
Speaker 4: I'm always hoping something's coming. And my friend has said,
so you got to get out, You got to go
out there and get it.
Speaker 3: You know, because I go if it happens after midnight,
Dougie's Thresher's involved, chef cluff, DJ Bartender, right, uber driver,
all that stuff, like.
Speaker 2: You have a very interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fucking resume many And I just I just thought,
you know, wow, what.
Speaker 2: A what an interesting thing. And I do think that
there are people who.
Speaker 3: Uh, they may feel stuck right now or whatever, and
I go, well, here's a guy who shows up funny
all the time, like, shows up with energy, no matter
really what's going on.
Speaker 2: Your cat died, Well, that's a hard thing.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 3: It is anybody who has a pet that they genuinely
care about love, they're a liar.
Speaker 4: If they're like, ooh whatever, Then I was telling you
one thing I was thinking about as I was driving
around and putting it in a comedy act or going
to work on it. There is a difference between playing
doctor and playing a vet.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, big difference. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Well it's almost like nursing a cat or something. Is
I think easier maybe than nursing a human. I don't know,
because I was saying, can't well, they can't tell you
what they need, but well, I.
Speaker 4: Think, uh, more heartfeld or more tears come as to
the bigger the casket. You know, if you bury a
gerbil or a hamster, a bird, yeah, and you flush
a fish, then you get up to a cat. Hey,
you go downstairs and find an old shoe box and
bury sneakers in the backyard. Then you get up to
a dog. Yeah, then you got to start making calls
and cremation. And you know, if your kid has a
horse and you got to look for a friend that
has a bobcat, that costs you.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: So the the bigger the cough and the bigger the tears.
Speaker 3: The some of it's just the financial of Oh, without doubt,
it's terrible you know, the family dog, the family pet,
you know, and I want I think, did I give you.
Speaker 2: A Christmas card?
Speaker 4: I put Rosie in the Christmas dish?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and trust me, I love animals, but also there
was a place for animals. Don't bring your Yeah, don't
bring your dog to the bank. I know, well, you
know pet smart. Yeah, they encourage that, but I don't
know your dog. Your dog doesn't know me. And I
love dogs. I'm dog sitting right now.
Speaker 2: Don't bring your bring your dog to a bar.
Speaker 4: Your service dog, then give then they gives a service
dog name.
Speaker 2: I agree with that. I agree with that.
Speaker 3: I just think people hear the stories of dog and
the funny things, and when.
Speaker 4: They think, I'm like, well, sometimes I'm quiet.
Speaker 3: Sometimes well, there's just this version of it that that
you're just the guy trying to figure it out, just
like everybody else, just like everybody else. And I just
thought that you just have a slightly more interesting resume
than most people.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And well, I'll tell you what I did at uber
right last month and from it was from Churchville to
the airport. She was visiting her mother, and we had
forty minutes of talking and you know.
Speaker 2: What are you doing.
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, I I uber and bartend and she goes, no, this,
I got to do a podcast. Oh, I DJ weddings,
Oh my gosh. And I run a fundraiser for breast cancer.
Speaker 2: Oh wow.
Speaker 4: That's and I dug said. She's like, you know what,
I've heard more people having making their way through life
doing odd jobs instead of having the corporate job to
pay the bills.
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, like, I found playing music on
the radio so boring. Yeah, and I needed to talk
and prep and do these things right.
Speaker 2: So that's and I did for a number of years.
Speaker 3: That was it was talk radio for me and I
often and then out of that would come other things,
comedy and you know, m seeing gigs and being here
and being there, and it was never just being the
radio personality. There was all this other stuff that went
with it. And I think even now with pot I
can't I I not that I can't sit still.
Speaker 2: I can't. I could vegetate like any human.
Speaker 3: But I also feel like when I'm at my best,
I have multiple things going on. I have, you know,
the podcast, and we're getting others up and running, and
then I'm doing the grad school stuff and I've got
this and I got that, and it's just being being
and I like that. I don't know why I feel
more well.
Speaker 4: I think it's easier for me when I have more
stuff going on to balance those plates. You know, I
can't work, so I can't do this and I can't
do that. But I am working. Then I'm going to
make a list and I got to do this today.
You know, I'm driving till four o'clock. I'm gonna go
out and get donations till six o'clock and then I'm
going to write some jokes from seven to eight. And
you know, when you're multitasking, that's what you're used to,
and that's when you feel more comfortable. Comfortable, yeah, you know,
not just watching TV all day. I was thinking about
it this week. I'm like, I go out of my
mind if I didn't have a job.
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, well I would go out of my mind
if I had a job where I had a bunch
of clock.
Speaker 2: Yeah that.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I just don't like that. And I don't necessarily
like having a job where.
Speaker 4: I have to well I look online and I have
to be told what to do right indeed dot com
and I'm like, I don't even know what I'd be
qualified for.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, right, But it is a gig economy now,
so like the dog walking and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, put or or watching excuse me. And you can
put together a website.
Speaker 4: If you wanted to put together a website for theday,
you can put together a webs you could.
Speaker 2: Start your Facebook page for that and or.
Speaker 3: But even with the website, you d have live cams
in certain rooms your house, you know, and all of
them right, you know, you could see the dogs or whatever.
You know what I mean if you want that in
your bedroom, you know, there you go. And then next
thing I know, Doug's not only fans running with some.
Speaker 2: Docks only rough.
Speaker 4: Only wolfs, Dougie Fresh, thank you for your patience.
Speaker 2: Absolutely all right, Bill Moran, We'll see you next time.
Speaker 4: Well up in Holding