WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.240 --> 00:00:04.639 Karen, let's test your knowledge of will. Oh boy, what 2 00:00:04.839 --> 00:00:08.240 is the number one thing I've always wanted to do? 3 00:00:08.519 --> 00:00:09.279 Astro project? 4 00:00:09.359 --> 00:00:11.119 Astral project? That's right? 5 00:00:11.359 --> 00:00:12.640 That and eat unlimited cake. 6 00:00:13.560 --> 00:00:15.320 Oh, we need to get someone about cake. No. 7 00:00:15.599 --> 00:00:19.239 No, this one's about astral projection. It's that all elusive 8 00:00:19.320 --> 00:00:22.719 skill set that I've been trying to gain forever. Well, 9 00:00:23.120 --> 00:00:25.320 I think today we're going to solve it. 10 00:00:25.760 --> 00:00:26.519 Whoa, Yep. 11 00:00:26.600 --> 00:00:29.839 This episode is all about astral projection. What is it really? 12 00:00:30.039 --> 00:00:32.640 What are the benefits of leaving your body? And most 13 00:00:32.640 --> 00:00:34.320 of all, how. 14 00:00:34.079 --> 00:00:36.039 To do it? Step by step? 15 00:00:36.520 --> 00:00:39.079 Yep, We're diving into the easiest way to master out 16 00:00:39.119 --> 00:00:41.679 of the body travel. Welcome to another episode of the 17 00:00:41.719 --> 00:00:46.119 Skeptic Metaphysicians. My name is Will and I'm garous, and 18 00:00:46.200 --> 00:00:48.960 unlike Boulder and Scully, both want to believe. So we've 19 00:00:48.960 --> 00:00:54.079 embarked in a journey of discovery. 20 00:00:54.920 --> 00:01:03.240 Welcome to Skeptic Medicians Classic. You are listening to the 21 00:01:03.560 --> 00:01:12.439 Classic Skeptic Metaphysicians. Welcome to our version of her walkdown 22 00:01:12.480 --> 00:01:15.920 Memory Lane as we present classics from the Skeptic met 23 00:01:15.959 --> 00:01:18.200 Physician Library, warts and all. 24 00:01:30.120 --> 00:01:31.239 Well, today's story is. 25 00:01:31.200 --> 00:01:35.079 Called the Blind Girl. There was a blind girl who 26 00:01:35.159 --> 00:01:38.680 hated herself purely for the fact that she was blind. 27 00:01:39.680 --> 00:01:43.799 The only person that she didn't hate was her loving boyfriend, 28 00:01:43.799 --> 00:01:47.280 as he was always there for her. She said that 29 00:01:47.359 --> 00:01:51.159 if she could only see the world, she would marry him. 30 00:01:51.560 --> 00:01:54.439 One day, someone donated a pair of eyes to her, 31 00:01:54.920 --> 00:02:00.400 and now she could see everything, including her boyfriend. So 32 00:02:00.920 --> 00:02:03.840 her boyfriend dropped to one knee and asked her, now 33 00:02:03.879 --> 00:02:05.879 that you can see the world, will you marry me. 34 00:02:06.760 --> 00:02:10.159 The girl was shocked when she saw that her boyfriend 35 00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:14.199 was blind too, and she refused to marry him. 36 00:02:15.120 --> 00:02:15.439 Well. 37 00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:19.159 The boyfriend walked away in tears and later wrote her 38 00:02:19.159 --> 00:02:24.400 a letter saying, I understand, Please just take care of 39 00:02:24.400 --> 00:02:24.919 my eyes. 40 00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:25.199 Dear. 41 00:02:27.080 --> 00:02:28.960 I won't even give you the moral of this story. 42 00:02:29.120 --> 00:02:38.759 I'm sure the message is loud and clear. Hey everyone, 43 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:42.759 I'm will We are your guides of this journey of discovery. 44 00:02:42.800 --> 00:02:46.479 Today we've got a special treat. Florentine Eonita is an 45 00:02:46.599 --> 00:02:50.800 astral projection teacher and explorer who has created the world's 46 00:02:50.800 --> 00:02:56.240 most complete astral projection program, the Astral Projection Accelerator Program. 47 00:02:56.960 --> 00:03:00.680 He's helped hundreds of students achieve out of by experiences 48 00:03:00.680 --> 00:03:03.879 with the help of this systematic training methodology, and I 49 00:03:04.080 --> 00:03:08.120 could not be more excited to talk to him today. Florentine, 50 00:03:08.159 --> 00:03:10.919 thanks for being on show. Hello, Hello, thanks to thank 51 00:03:10.960 --> 00:03:13.199 you for having me. So We've got a lot to 52 00:03:13.280 --> 00:03:15.240 talk about, and I know Karen's going to tell you 53 00:03:15.319 --> 00:03:17.400 that I can talk about this stuff forever. So I'm 54 00:03:17.400 --> 00:03:18.680 going to try to keep it as concise as I 55 00:03:18.719 --> 00:03:21.080 can and let you speak for a little bit. But first, 56 00:03:21.199 --> 00:03:23.400 let's set the table so that everyone is on the 57 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:28.680 same page. Astral projection out of body experiences, what exactly 58 00:03:28.879 --> 00:03:31.000 is it. There's a lot of misconceptions out there, right, 59 00:03:31.039 --> 00:03:33.080 so let's put some of those misconceptions to rest. 60 00:03:33.319 --> 00:03:37.159 Okay, great, So that's a good price to start, because 61 00:03:37.319 --> 00:03:40.280 there is a lot of misconceptions. So the first one 62 00:03:40.400 --> 00:03:46.360 is the idea that we are leaving our bodies and 63 00:03:46.680 --> 00:03:49.439 that our body is going to be empty, and that 64 00:03:49.639 --> 00:03:52.000 someone's going to take over the body maybe or something's 65 00:03:52.000 --> 00:03:53.680 gonna happen to their body, and there's a fear there, 66 00:03:54.199 --> 00:03:57.360 maybe that we're not able to come back if we 67 00:03:57.479 --> 00:04:00.360 travel somewhere. There's all this whole idea of sep from 68 00:04:00.360 --> 00:04:04.199 the body kind of thing. And although it feels like 69 00:04:04.360 --> 00:04:07.919 we are moving away from the body, that we're leaving 70 00:04:08.039 --> 00:04:11.439 the body in a strained way when we're doing it. 71 00:04:12.120 --> 00:04:14.639 I think the truth is more like, we are not 72 00:04:15.080 --> 00:04:17.720 in our bodies in the first place. Our consciousness is 73 00:04:17.759 --> 00:04:22.199 not in our brain. Our consciousness is beyond this dimension 74 00:04:22.600 --> 00:04:26.240 in the first place, and it's projecting itself to our 75 00:04:26.279 --> 00:04:29.959 physical body, to a human experience. And then when we 76 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:34.279 have to project, it's basically our consciousness projecting itself somewhere 77 00:04:34.319 --> 00:04:38.759 else in a different reality. That would be where ass 78 00:04:38.759 --> 00:04:42.879 projection is. So you can also be in multiple plays 79 00:04:42.879 --> 00:04:45.680 at the same time. So you can be occupying your 80 00:04:45.680 --> 00:04:50.160 physical body while you're doing this practice, aware of the 81 00:04:50.160 --> 00:04:52.079 physical body, and at the same time you can be 82 00:04:52.120 --> 00:04:56.120 aware of a complete different reality as well. You can 83 00:04:56.160 --> 00:04:58.560 have multiple parallel projections. 84 00:04:58.680 --> 00:05:02.839 So so if someone coming into this topic cold, you 85 00:05:02.920 --> 00:05:06.079 just dropped about fifteen bombs. 86 00:05:06.439 --> 00:05:07.639 Now that sounds exist. 87 00:05:07.759 --> 00:05:10.920 In less than two minutes. So let's take it back 88 00:05:10.959 --> 00:05:14.040 for a second. You mentioned that the consciousness does not 89 00:05:14.079 --> 00:05:16.319 reside in the body. That you're talking of course about 90 00:05:16.319 --> 00:05:19.720 the theory that our consciousness is not developed by a brain, 91 00:05:19.800 --> 00:05:22.800 but rather it lives outside of our brain, and our 92 00:05:22.839 --> 00:05:25.639 brain is actually just a filter that allows us to 93 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:29.600 live in this three dimensional body. It's a super interesting 94 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:32.720 thought and one that I've talked about and thought about 95 00:05:32.800 --> 00:05:37.360 a lot, because the thought of projecting our consciousness into 96 00:05:37.399 --> 00:05:40.600 our bodies to the use of our brains is intriguing 97 00:05:41.120 --> 00:05:43.519 and it opens up a lot of possibilities in the 98 00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:47.279 quantum realm. If this resonates with you, then this conversation 99 00:05:47.360 --> 00:05:49.040 is going to be easy one for you. If it 100 00:05:49.079 --> 00:05:52.000 doesn't resonate with you, then we have got some work 101 00:05:52.040 --> 00:05:55.439 to do. If they're first and foremo so, then you 102 00:05:55.639 --> 00:05:59.519 are also talked about being in multiple places at one time. 103 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:02.439 At that point, now you're talking about the fact that 104 00:06:02.680 --> 00:06:06.160 we are an infinite being. Also, the quantum physics thought 105 00:06:06.240 --> 00:06:09.319 that there is no time, that all time is happening simultaneously, 106 00:06:09.399 --> 00:06:12.120 so that could be something along those lines. So trying 107 00:06:12.120 --> 00:06:14.319 to catch up those that aren't as versed in some 108 00:06:14.360 --> 00:06:19.079 of these concepts. If someone doesn't resonate with some of 109 00:06:19.120 --> 00:06:22.480 these concepts, for lack of a better word, is astra 110 00:06:22.560 --> 00:06:25.439 projection completely out of bounds for them? 111 00:06:25.959 --> 00:06:29.680 No h So there's like two different beliefs that you 112 00:06:29.720 --> 00:06:32.600 can have with this. You can believe that, like I 113 00:06:32.680 --> 00:06:36.120 was just saying before that consciousness is beyond the body, 114 00:06:36.160 --> 00:06:39.800 beyond the brain, and you can therefore trouble to different 115 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:44.000 realities that are outside of you. Or you can believe 116 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:47.199 that consciousness is in your brain and that everything that's 117 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:50.839 happening to you is always in your in your mind, 118 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:55.000 in your imagination, and that's all. That's okay. You can 119 00:06:55.040 --> 00:06:57.600 have that belief, and you can still ask the project. 120 00:06:57.600 --> 00:07:00.600 You can still have these experiences and now you can 121 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:03.240 kind of make what you want out of it. You 122 00:07:03.279 --> 00:07:05.439 can still you can believe that, oh, that was just 123 00:07:05.560 --> 00:07:10.399 some type of dream or that was happening in my mind. 124 00:07:10.959 --> 00:07:13.600 It's okay. You could have that belief, and I think 125 00:07:13.639 --> 00:07:15.560 a lot of people do have that belief in the beginning. 126 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:18.199 I think it's healthy to have the belief of maybe 127 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:20.800 this is all just the illusion or a dream or 128 00:07:20.839 --> 00:07:26.319 imagination and whatever. And then you know, you have that belief, 129 00:07:26.680 --> 00:07:29.639 you have that skeptic kind of mindset, but you still 130 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:32.800 have an open mindset with that because you are willing 131 00:07:32.959 --> 00:07:36.160 to try this out for yourself. To start with the practice, 132 00:07:36.560 --> 00:07:39.680 you start doing the actual work and you start having experiences, 133 00:07:40.120 --> 00:07:43.279 and then through that journey of experience, you start to 134 00:07:43.319 --> 00:07:46.480 shift your belief system, you start to have experiences that 135 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:49.920 maybe you won't be able to explain with that theory 136 00:07:49.959 --> 00:07:52.040 that it's all in your mind, because maybe you will 137 00:07:52.040 --> 00:07:55.920 have an experience where you see something outside of your room, 138 00:07:56.199 --> 00:07:59.279 maybe your neighbor's room, that you have never seen before, 139 00:07:59.720 --> 00:08:02.120 and then you go out in the physical the next 140 00:08:02.199 --> 00:08:04.240 day you check out the roof and you see actually 141 00:08:04.279 --> 00:08:07.279 the same thing. You know, things like this happen all 142 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:09.639 the time, or that people go to people's houses and 143 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:15.079 they overhear conversation and they can come back and recall 144 00:08:15.160 --> 00:08:18.079 exactly what happened. Tell that brand I saw you having 145 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:22.759 this conversation with this person in these clothes. Is that true? Like, yes, 146 00:08:22.920 --> 00:08:26.360 that's that happened. And those are those kind of confirmations, 147 00:08:26.360 --> 00:08:30.120 personal confirmations that then take your experience, your perception of 148 00:08:30.199 --> 00:08:34.120 reality to another level where you start to expand what 149 00:08:34.159 --> 00:08:37.159 you believe is true about this reality and about yourself 150 00:08:37.240 --> 00:08:39.600 and about the universe. And it's kind of the whole 151 00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:43.080 purpose of this is to take you on that journey 152 00:08:43.080 --> 00:08:46.080 of truth where you start to unravel more of what 153 00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:49.360 reality is and what you are and what is going on. 154 00:08:49.559 --> 00:08:51.440 And so it's totally okay to have that belief in 155 00:08:51.480 --> 00:08:55.120 the beginning that everything is happening out here, it's totally okay. 156 00:08:55.399 --> 00:08:57.960 One of the main questions I guess from people when 157 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:03.519 it comes to this topic is why why would you 158 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:05.919 do this? Why would you leave your body and go 159 00:09:05.919 --> 00:09:09.080 into different dimensions? And what's the point? Like iasy like 160 00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:14.039 for you and for you, you didn't. You didn't actually 161 00:09:14.080 --> 00:09:16.240 ask me that question because it's so clear to you 162 00:09:16.279 --> 00:09:19.919 why And I wanted to ask you why. Why do 163 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:21.840 you want to ask the project? Why do you think 164 00:09:21.840 --> 00:09:23.720 this is something that you would That's a great question 165 00:09:23.879 --> 00:09:26.440 for me. It's a way of validating that this stuff 166 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:29.559 is all real. So in the show Open you'll hear 167 00:09:29.879 --> 00:09:31.960 we talk about the fact that we're like Molder and Schully, 168 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:34.440 we really want to believe. But I'm the kind of 169 00:09:34.480 --> 00:09:36.639 mindset that I have to feel it. I have to 170 00:09:37.399 --> 00:09:40.120 sense it, taste it, touch it. Right, I've got to 171 00:09:40.159 --> 00:09:43.440 know it's real before I can just full on believe it. 172 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:46.320 And I got that when it became a Reikie practitioner. 173 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:48.759 I did feel these energies, which then led me to think, Okay, 174 00:09:48.919 --> 00:09:51.679 if this is real, then there's boundary other things out 175 00:09:51.679 --> 00:09:55.039 there that are real as well, but it's eluding me. 176 00:09:55.399 --> 00:09:58.720 So I figured if I can ask for project and 177 00:09:58.879 --> 00:10:03.200 if it as real as you're saying, like as palpable, 178 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:07.080 as it's not a dream state kind of real, then 179 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:10.120 that is going to prove without a shadow of doubt 180 00:10:10.120 --> 00:10:12.519 for me that this stuff is real. So that's really 181 00:10:12.519 --> 00:10:14.720 that's my why, That's why I've always wanted to ask 182 00:10:14.720 --> 00:10:17.960 to project. So for you is confirmation that this stuff 183 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:21.919 is real, correct, And it's very much the same for me. 184 00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:23.840 I'm very much like you, like I need to have 185 00:10:23.879 --> 00:10:26.960 the experience to believe something a conscious like believe in everything. 186 00:10:27.159 --> 00:10:30.320 That's kind of the whole purpose with afterprojection specifically, it's like, 187 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:33.240 don't believe what people tell you, don't read books about 188 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:36.039 all kinds of stuff. Go ahead and just have the 189 00:10:36.080 --> 00:10:39.240 experience yourself. Learn how to do it, find out for yourself, 190 00:10:39.279 --> 00:10:44.639 because the difference between believing something and knowing something experiencing 191 00:10:44.679 --> 00:10:49.240 something is massive, It's completely different territory. There's one thing 192 00:10:49.279 --> 00:10:52.399 to believe that you might continue after physical death, there 193 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:55.759 might be an afterlife, your uncle, that I might be 194 00:10:56.000 --> 00:11:01.000 somewhere out there, and knowing through experience a difficult different 195 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:05.159 state of mind, right, so you know, think about how 196 00:11:05.639 --> 00:11:09.240 that would feel to have that knowing through your personal experience. 197 00:11:09.679 --> 00:11:12.480 So it's a it's a very different experience as a 198 00:11:12.919 --> 00:11:16.240 and if someone was motivated like I am about confirmation. 199 00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:19.159 I think you alluded to earlier that there are certain 200 00:11:19.279 --> 00:11:23.200 benefits to astral projection. Can you share some of those 201 00:11:23.200 --> 00:11:26.080 with us? Yes? So, to me, asks projection is a 202 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:29.720 tool for spiritual evolution. It's a it's a tool to 203 00:11:29.759 --> 00:11:33.919 discover your spiritual essence. And I think when you are 204 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:36.639 in the spiritual community and you learn about these different 205 00:11:36.639 --> 00:11:39.440 topics and you find out that, oh, you are not 206 00:11:39.519 --> 00:11:43.320 a physical body, human being, you're something more, You're something 207 00:11:43.399 --> 00:11:47.159 beyond this, the question comes up, like then what what 208 00:11:47.200 --> 00:11:50.080 am I? What am I more than this? And how 209 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:52.679 can I like experience this? And this will be the 210 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:55.679 way to experience this. And you can experience this stuff 211 00:11:55.720 --> 00:11:58.840 with psychedelics. It can take different substances, but that's a 212 00:11:59.039 --> 00:12:02.600 completely different thing, and it's usually maybe a bit more intense, 213 00:12:02.679 --> 00:12:06.559 and not many people already ready for that. This stuff 214 00:12:06.639 --> 00:12:10.320 is very smooth, you know. It's like I said before, 215 00:12:10.440 --> 00:12:13.000 you you will take it to places that you're ready for, 216 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:15.159 So it just smooths the journey that you can go 217 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:19.480 on and start finding about finding out about your essence, 218 00:12:19.519 --> 00:12:23.399 who you are, where you are, about the universe. And 219 00:12:23.440 --> 00:12:25.919 it's also a tool to connect with somebody that has 220 00:12:25.960 --> 00:12:29.360 passed away, that has basically left from this physical realm 221 00:12:29.600 --> 00:12:32.519 and gone into different realm. You can connect with them. 222 00:12:32.559 --> 00:12:34.440 And we have students that do that all the time. 223 00:12:34.519 --> 00:12:37.200 And I mean seeing a students that had lost their 224 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:41.200 loved one connecting with them in the astrol and then 225 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:43.960 having the talk with them afterwards and seeing how happy 226 00:12:44.039 --> 00:12:46.840 they are and how like you know, it's it's it's 227 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:50.519 amazing because there's such a healing experience built to talk 228 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:53.879 to somebody that you love that you you think you've lost, 229 00:12:53.919 --> 00:12:55.759 but then you find out that you haven't lost them. 230 00:12:55.799 --> 00:12:58.039 They're still there and this is a tool for them 231 00:12:58.080 --> 00:13:01.159 to connect with somebody like that. And then of course 232 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:04.360 is the connecting with spiritual guides is a which is 233 00:13:04.360 --> 00:13:06.120 a big one as well. Many people want to connect 234 00:13:06.120 --> 00:13:09.840 with their spiritual guides that knows everything about them and 235 00:13:10.039 --> 00:13:12.879 get guidance on their life and what to do that 236 00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:17.000 wants to it called Ashwin. He found out his life's 237 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:20.039 purpose with the help of his guides and this is 238 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:22.639 one of those super important things to do, which is 239 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:27.039 one of those keystones things that you want to do 240 00:13:27.080 --> 00:13:29.440 as well, Like you want to connect your spiritual guide 241 00:13:29.480 --> 00:13:32.159 to get guidance, to get help to navigate the astral 242 00:13:32.159 --> 00:13:34.320 because you want know where to go that you will 243 00:13:34.360 --> 00:13:37.039 know they can help you. It seems like a no 244 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:37.960 brainer to me. 245 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:40.519 That's more of my motivation. I don't need the proof 246 00:13:40.600 --> 00:13:43.039 because I do believe it, but I feel like it's 247 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:46.360 something we're supposed to do to become more and that's 248 00:13:46.600 --> 00:13:47.919 what that's what I want. 249 00:13:47.919 --> 00:13:51.720 Right So in your estimation, Florentine, you think eventually everyone 250 00:13:51.759 --> 00:13:54.080 will get to the point where they do this regularly. 251 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:56.879 Is this part of our spiritual evolution? Then I really 252 00:13:56.879 --> 00:13:58.799 believe that. I really believe that this is what we're 253 00:13:58.799 --> 00:14:05.080 supposed to do to evolve our consciousness constantly, and I 254 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:07.919 understand what we are and what we are not and 255 00:14:08.159 --> 00:14:11.080 understand the true, the truth about this reality. Right So 256 00:14:11.080 --> 00:14:13.240 that's kind of alter what it is about, understanding the 257 00:14:13.240 --> 00:14:18.919 bigger picture, and with that comes great, great peace, great healing, 258 00:14:19.000 --> 00:14:22.639 great I mean, the more I think for you guys too, 259 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:25.600 the more you find out, the more kind of amazed 260 00:14:25.759 --> 00:14:29.360 you be about what's happening, and the more the more 261 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:34.240 loves comes from that, from knowing the bigger truth. And 262 00:14:34.320 --> 00:14:37.279 so I think it's definitely a part of our evolution 263 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:40.679 to go on this journey of truths and expansion. 264 00:14:41.320 --> 00:14:43.440 So you said that some people might think, well, was 265 00:14:43.480 --> 00:14:46.519 that a dream? So kind of take expanding on that. 266 00:14:46.919 --> 00:14:49.360 Sometimes when you sleep, you have these dreams that are 267 00:14:49.440 --> 00:14:52.559 just incredible and seem incredibly vivid, like you are right there, 268 00:14:52.879 --> 00:14:55.440 I mean, could you be I guess while you're sleeping 269 00:14:55.519 --> 00:14:59.600 as for projecting and not on accident, but like not 270 00:14:59.639 --> 00:15:02.039 inten doing it. But is it something that could just happen. 271 00:15:02.320 --> 00:15:05.240 Yes, that's something that happens actually to like ten percent 272 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:09.200 of the population. People have these spontaneous out about experiences 273 00:15:09.720 --> 00:15:11.639 and for the most part they shreak out because they 274 00:15:11.639 --> 00:15:14.120 don't know what's happening. And it's very scary if you 275 00:15:14.159 --> 00:15:17.360 don't know that this is possible to start leaving your body. 276 00:15:17.600 --> 00:15:19.480 Might you might think you're dying, You might you know, 277 00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:23.559 I think something weird is happening. And then also it 278 00:15:23.639 --> 00:15:27.000 happens a lot in our sleep. When we're sleeping, we 279 00:15:27.080 --> 00:15:31.480 have more unconscious experiences. For the most part, we might 280 00:15:31.480 --> 00:15:34.399 not remember them, or you might remember some pieces, maybe 281 00:15:34.399 --> 00:15:37.200 that we are flying and we saw a village or something, 282 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:40.240 but we come back from that experience and always kind 283 00:15:40.279 --> 00:15:43.120 of disregarded to be a dream, but sometimes could actually 284 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:46.320 be something more than a dream. But I think the 285 00:15:46.360 --> 00:15:48.519 best way to do this is to describe what is it? 286 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:51.000 There was the difference between a dream, and then ask 287 00:15:51.039 --> 00:15:53.879 projection because of the you know, the lines are kind 288 00:15:53.879 --> 00:15:54.960 of blurry. Yeah. 289 00:15:54.960 --> 00:15:57.679 In fact, I was going to ask if someone's freaking 290 00:15:57.720 --> 00:16:00.919 out because they do this in this and suddenly they 291 00:16:00.960 --> 00:16:04.919 freak feel they're dying. It must feel different because that's 292 00:16:04.960 --> 00:16:07.360 always been my big thing, Right, is it me just 293 00:16:07.480 --> 00:16:11.279 dreaming or using my imagination and feeling like I'm leaving 294 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:14.240 my body? Like does it feel other physical sensations when 295 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:16.720 you leave your body? Do you feel the wind whistling 296 00:16:16.799 --> 00:16:19.559 through your hair as you're lying through the night or 297 00:16:19.639 --> 00:16:22.440 is it really just a mental projection? 298 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:25.759 Great question. So that's why people freak out because it's 299 00:16:25.799 --> 00:16:29.639 so real. They don't even know that they're I mean, 300 00:16:29.679 --> 00:16:31.039 they don't even know that they're out of body. A 301 00:16:31.080 --> 00:16:34.039 lot of times I have students when they go out 302 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:37.679 of body, they actually think there are standing in their 303 00:16:37.759 --> 00:16:40.399 room physically, and so they they leave their body and 304 00:16:40.399 --> 00:16:43.799 they're like, oh, oh, I'm just I'm still physically standing 305 00:16:43.799 --> 00:16:46.759 in my room. Everything looks the same. They go back 306 00:16:46.759 --> 00:16:48.720 to bed, and then they wake up and then they realize, 307 00:16:48.759 --> 00:16:50.960 oh my god, that I was out of body just now. 308 00:16:50.960 --> 00:16:54.000 But it was so real that I thought it was 309 00:16:54.080 --> 00:16:58.200 physical reality. Okay, So it's that level of realism, and 310 00:16:58.240 --> 00:17:01.440 sometimes people report that it's even more real than their 311 00:17:01.440 --> 00:17:03.559 physical experiences. 312 00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:06.880 Definitely encouraging to me because you talk to people and 313 00:17:06.920 --> 00:17:08.480 they're like, oh, it's just like it's like just like 314 00:17:08.480 --> 00:17:11.480 it's in your imagination. And to me, it's kind of 315 00:17:11.480 --> 00:17:13.839 a compout if I'm not feeling it, but I if 316 00:17:13.839 --> 00:17:16.359 I don't feel something different, it feels like I'm not 317 00:17:16.400 --> 00:17:19.240 really astro projecting. So I'm hearing from you that it 318 00:17:19.279 --> 00:17:23.680 is indeed feels like you are physically somewhere else. 319 00:17:24.160 --> 00:17:29.160 Yeah, it's it's insane. It's it's really insane. Like I mean, 320 00:17:29.519 --> 00:17:32.000 when you it's only when you have the first time 321 00:17:32.680 --> 00:17:35.839 that you can just like grasp what would just what 322 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:37.880 just happened? Because it's I remember for me when I 323 00:17:37.880 --> 00:17:39.920 heard this as well, I was also a bit skeptic. 324 00:17:40.039 --> 00:17:43.680 I was also thinking, hmmm, maybe these guys, these people 325 00:17:43.839 --> 00:17:48.200 just imagining these things, because I would go to different retreats, 326 00:17:48.200 --> 00:17:51.599 to different workshops, meitation workshops, and I always meet these 327 00:17:51.640 --> 00:17:55.319 people that they always had this very interesting stuff happening 328 00:17:55.359 --> 00:17:57.279 for them. When they're closing their eyes, they all kinds 329 00:17:57.279 --> 00:17:59.279 of stuff, and I was like, nah, I don't see anything. 330 00:17:59.319 --> 00:18:03.799 It's just I'm just I'm not even Yeah, nothing is happening. 331 00:18:03.839 --> 00:18:06.440 And I was always wondering if these people are just 332 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:10.000 kind of making things up or they're just measuring things. Yeah, 333 00:18:10.000 --> 00:18:12.359 because people so it wasn't stuff around all the time, 334 00:18:12.359 --> 00:18:15.079 Oh yeah, when I left my body or it's such 335 00:18:15.119 --> 00:18:17.799 a buzzword. It's like everyone in this space is talking 336 00:18:17.799 --> 00:18:23.039 about astro projection or leave out of body experiences, like 337 00:18:23.279 --> 00:18:28.119 just throwing around like if it was hotcakes. But that's 338 00:18:28.240 --> 00:18:31.880 what makes someone like me who's been struggling trying hard 339 00:18:31.920 --> 00:18:34.680 to do it for so long, get super frustrating and thinking, no, 340 00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:36.519 you guys are full of crap. This is not it 341 00:18:36.559 --> 00:18:39.039 can't be real. So yeah, totally, I mean that's exactly 342 00:18:39.119 --> 00:18:40.720 what happens if you tried for a while and then 343 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:45.119 don't get very far. Then you know you're you're going 344 00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:46.839 to have all kinds of stories that you're going to 345 00:18:46.839 --> 00:18:49.359 tell yourself, like this is not real, or maybe you're 346 00:18:49.400 --> 00:18:52.599 going to have the limiting belief that I had, which is, 347 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:55.000 I'm not gifted enough to do this. I don't have 348 00:18:55.079 --> 00:18:57.240 the ability to do this. This is for special people. 349 00:18:57.240 --> 00:18:59.960 This is for someone that has meditary for ten years exactly, 350 00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:02.559 and I'm not one of those people. So a lot 351 00:19:02.559 --> 00:19:04.599 of things can come like that, and that can also 352 00:19:04.599 --> 00:19:07.400 become a limiting belief which blocks you from actually being 353 00:19:07.440 --> 00:19:09.799 able to do it, because now you're creating a belief 354 00:19:09.839 --> 00:19:11.960 system around it that you cannot do it, which is 355 00:19:12.000 --> 00:19:16.599 not helping you. So it's but yeah, it's the moment 356 00:19:16.599 --> 00:19:18.440 that you have the experience is the moment that you 357 00:19:18.519 --> 00:19:23.359 truly go, Okay, this is possible, and the experience is 358 00:19:23.599 --> 00:19:28.640 extremely real. It's it's very physical and you you can 359 00:19:28.680 --> 00:19:32.240 feel things, you can touch things with your hands, you 360 00:19:32.279 --> 00:19:35.000 can smell things, you can see things, you can hear things. 361 00:19:36.039 --> 00:19:39.279 Sometimes you're hearing can be so and halls that you 362 00:19:39.319 --> 00:19:42.519 can hear things that are really really far away from 363 00:19:43.319 --> 00:19:45.480 the room that you're practicing in. Like for example, if 364 00:19:45.519 --> 00:19:48.279 I practice, if I do the practice in a city 365 00:19:48.400 --> 00:19:52.559 like London, I would be I can get into a 366 00:19:52.599 --> 00:19:56.559 state where I start hearing conversations of lots of different 367 00:19:56.559 --> 00:19:59.680 conversations taking place, as if there's like people sitting in 368 00:19:59.680 --> 00:20:01.279 my room. And in the beginning, a lot of times 369 00:20:01.319 --> 00:20:04.839 I actually got confused. I actually thought someone walked into 370 00:20:04.839 --> 00:20:07.079 my room, and so I took off my headphones and 371 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:09.759 looked around, like, what's happening here? Is someone's coming into 372 00:20:09.799 --> 00:20:12.480 my room? There's nobody there, but it's so clear. The 373 00:20:12.599 --> 00:20:14.960 sound is so clear. And if I do it in 374 00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:19.079 a place that's like just nature around the area, I 375 00:20:19.119 --> 00:20:22.480 can hear birds and the river creaking, and like the 376 00:20:23.079 --> 00:20:25.559 sounds that will be in that environment I hear very 377 00:20:25.599 --> 00:20:27.880 clearly as if they're next to me. So it's very 378 00:20:28.240 --> 00:20:31.599 very interesting how our senses when we get into these states, 379 00:20:31.720 --> 00:20:37.200 get very heightened beyond the physical possibility that we have 380 00:20:37.240 --> 00:20:38.519 with our physical senses. 381 00:20:38.920 --> 00:20:41.960 That's interesting because sometimes when I dream, I can I 382 00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:44.759 can smell things, or I can taste things. I just 383 00:20:45.799 --> 00:20:47.880 thought that was normal dreaming, And I don't know, will 384 00:20:47.880 --> 00:20:49.440 do you smell and taste in your dreams? I never 385 00:20:49.440 --> 00:20:49.880 asked you that. 386 00:20:49.920 --> 00:20:51.799 I don't think I ever have No, I don't smell 387 00:20:51.880 --> 00:20:54.960 or taste or I mean hear things. 388 00:20:55.079 --> 00:20:57.880 But well you got to hear things well, but well in. 389 00:20:57.839 --> 00:20:58.559 A dream, i'm more. 390 00:20:58.599 --> 00:21:02.880 I'm it's more less less hearing it more seeing it 391 00:21:02.920 --> 00:21:05.880 in my mind, Like I know that they're someone saying something, 392 00:21:05.880 --> 00:21:10.200 but it's not like auditory really Yeah, yeah, I mean 393 00:21:10.319 --> 00:21:11.920 I don't I don't think. At the same time, I 394 00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:14.200 also don't remember my dreams a lot. Very seldom do 395 00:21:14.240 --> 00:21:15.559 I remember my dreams, so. 396 00:21:15.559 --> 00:21:16.839 Like when you have a dream that you're flying, you 397 00:21:16.880 --> 00:21:17.599 don't feel it. 398 00:21:17.799 --> 00:21:21.720 Like the only dreams I've had have been and it's 399 00:21:21.799 --> 00:21:23.400 it's been a very long time since I had one 400 00:21:23.440 --> 00:21:25.920 of them is falling. I've had dreams I've been falling 401 00:21:26.200 --> 00:21:29.720