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Speaker 1: The video you're about to see is a short video

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that I made four years ago on the kind of

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dance of decorating the Christmas tree. It's wild because I

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made this video the very first few weeks after I

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had moved into our new home after our house was

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flooded in twenty nineteen, and so it was a particularly

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touching moment because we redecorated our Christmas tree in our

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home again, which was a big deal for our family.

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Speaker 2: Every year we would do that. And so please enjoy.

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This is Jonathan fjel Welcome to the symbolic world.

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Speaker 1: So the activity of decorating a Christmas tree is one

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which most families will engage in during you know, the

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up upcoming towards Christmas. You know, when you have young kids,

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it's actually the most fun. Mom My kids are getting

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a little older and they're a little blase about decorating.

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Speaker 2: The Christmas tree.

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Speaker 1: But when your kids are you know, like six, seven,

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eight around that age, it's it's a blast to decorate

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the Christmas tree together. And it's also kind of shows

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you how reality works, and you you see this kind

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of balance that needs to come about between order and

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let's say heaven and earth between order and improvisation, between

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the regular and the irregular. And so I've already talked

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about the symbolism of the Christmas tree per se. You

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can check that out if you're interested in it. Here

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it's mostly about how the actual decorating of the tree,

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and so especially if you do that as a family,

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you really get that experience. And so you can imagine,

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for example, because you've seen Christmas trees, you know, all

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the time, and you've seen beautiful Christmas trees, and you've

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seen ugly Christmas trees, and what makes a Christmas tree

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beautiful and what.

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Speaker 2: Makes it off somehow?

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Speaker 1: And we've all had that experience of seeing a Christmas

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tree which is off, and often it's usually off because

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it looks too chaotic, where all the ornaments don't fit together,

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all the ornaments are, there's too much space between the ornaments,

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there's too much there's some places where they're too close together,

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other places where there's too much space, where from one

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side it looks really nice, but then when you kind

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of turn you see that it doesn't look very good

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from the other side. And so that is obviously one

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version of what makes the Christmas tree not look so nice.

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There's also the possibility of a Christmas tree being too perfect,

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you know, of everything being lined up perfectly and everything,

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you know, you can imagine that you can almost see

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bands in it coming down of ornaments, you know, you

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see that sometimes and stores they can push that too much.

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But you definitely don't want something like that for your

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home Christmas tree because there is a lacking of homey feeling,

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like you're lacking that sense of.

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Speaker 2: Comfort.

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Speaker 1: You could say that comes from a somewhat a a

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giving in to idiosyncrasy, you know, And so you can imagine,

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for example, a Christmas tree that only has just glass

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balls and they're all perfect, and they all kind of

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come down, and you don't want that. So the Christmas

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tree ends up being a balance between the different aspects

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of the you know, the very shiny glass ball ornament,

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but then also the ribbon which goes around the tree,

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and the ribbon which goes around the tree. You know,

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if it's too perfect, it won't look right. You have

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to find that balance, and the balance often happens in

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a very interesting way as you're actually doing it. And

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so when you start and you start putting ornaments in

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the tree, you start to create patterns, and the patterns

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kind of reveal themselves as you're decorating it. You put

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up an ornament here, and then you realize that if

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you have several ornaments that are the same, you don't

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want the next ornament to be too close to that one,

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but you don't also want it to be too far.

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far enough, not on the same line, but not too far,

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and then you kind of create this pattern which is

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which is orderly but also is organic at the same time.

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want to now add to that one that you had

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Speaker 2: You start to add the.

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Speaker 1: Ornament, and then you start to want to balance it

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out with the ornament which is already there, So you

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end up creating a kind of balancing act between what

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is already there and what is added what is new.

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Speaker 2: You want it to fit in.

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Speaker 1: You don't want it to stand out so much that

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it calls attention to itself completely.

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Speaker 2: You want the new.

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be in a harmonious hole with the others, but also

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not completely vanished and still have a say, still have

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something which makes it, which makes you able to see it,

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and so you put on the ornaments. And when you're

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doing it together, this is when it becomes very fascinating

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because it also becomes an exercise in family unity, you know,

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because people have a slightly different way of understanding how

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let's say balanced or how imbalanced, how orderly or how

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improvisational the tree has to look, and also even the

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level of attention that you're wanting to put into the tree.

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just put a few put the ornaments, no matter where

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they are, and they think it's fine, like they think

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it's it's okay that way.

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Speaker 2: It's not. You know, it's good enough, you could say.

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Speaker 1: And then for someone else, you know, they might want

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to spend, you know, hours and hours fiddling with each

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ornament in order to make it absolutely perfect. And when

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you're dealing with several people, you also you have to

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be careful. You have to find the same balance that's

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in the Christmas tree, you have to find among the

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people that are decorating the tree as well, because if

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the person who wants too perfect a Christmas tree nitpicks

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too much and keeps taking the ornaments that other people

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are placing in the tree and replacing them. At some

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point the friction is going to start to appear. And

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the same goes the other way. If the person who

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just wants to get it over with move onto something

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else just throws them in there and then just wants

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to leave, they will also be they'll also prick the

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person who cares about it more and wants the Christmas

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tree to be beautiful.

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Speaker 2: And so what you end up.

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Speaker 1: Seeing is this dance between the different people where someone

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will put an ornament somewhere and then maybe someone else

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will have a small reaction which is like, maybe it

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doesn't go there, and so you end up moving it

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a little bit, and you know, maybe once in a while,

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when someone's not looking, you'll take the ornament that they

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put and then you'll just change the place of where

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Speaker 2: And that is really a really.

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Speaker 1: A representation of just how the world lays itself out,

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you know, because the patterns of the world have to

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adapt themselves to the circumstance in which they're manifesting manifesting themselves,

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and so you know, whatever pattern it is, whether it's

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a law, whether it's a you know, an aesthetic pattern,

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like you know, the building of a house. You want

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to build a house a certain way, but you have

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to take into account, you know, the place where you are.

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there's a tree there, whether the other houses what they

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look like, and so people in a normal society, people

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and improvisation or order in particularity. That is what makes traditional cities,

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like an old medieval town, that's what makes them so

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beautiful because they operate on a longer scale in the

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same way that a good Christmas tree is decorated, which

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is proposition and then modification, you know, and then someone

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that's there. Then maybe even that first house at some

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point will change, will be changed in order to kind

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of fit or to adapt itself to to what is happening,

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you know, in other places of this city.

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Speaker 2: And so that is why the Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Tree remains a very nice ritual that you can practice

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as a family, that you can practice together with your kids.

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Speaker 1: You can almost guess what a family's culture is. If

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you could watch them, probably not just almost. You definitely

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can guess a culture's family's culture if you watch them

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decorated Christmas tree, both in terms of how they interact

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while they're doing it and then ultimately the final result

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at what it would look like. Will it look like

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something that no one cares about? Will it look like

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something that is straight out of a magazine, so perfect

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that it's almost doesn't feel like it should be in

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a in a home, you know, And then and all

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the way in between that you'll find you'll find a

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pattern of manifestations. So your Christmas tree could really be

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an image of your family and your family's capacity to

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work together and to also be, let's say, a to

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participate in the celebration of Christmas, and celebration happens that

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way as well. There's something about celebration which is both

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a looking up towards the same goal, the same purpose,

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the thing which unites us, but also the capacity to

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express some idiosyncrasy together as we're celebrating. And so it

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really is something like a dance, you know, this ebb

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and flow between the particularity of the relationship of the dancers,

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the music and the tempo and the beat which is

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imposing a certain order, and in that magic is where

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you find the world. And so I hope everybody you

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all had a merry Christmas. Christ is born, glorify him.

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I wish you also a happy New Year. I'm looking

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forward to twenty twenty one despite our fear of what's

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on the horizon.

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Speaker 2: So thanks and I'll talk to you very soon.

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Speaker 3: Hello there, Well, this is Martin Shaw and I'm afraid

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whatever you had planned for January scrap it. I am

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returning to Symbolic World gleefully with one of the great

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stories of our time, the Epic of Passable, the story

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of the Holy Grail itself. Over five nights, I will

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be telling the tale. These will not be dry lectures

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or PowerPoint presentations. This will be wild, old philosophical storytelling

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in its deepest dimensions. It is life changing stuff, this story.

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I've written a book about it, I've been studying it

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for twenty years. I've told it all over the world,

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but I have not shared it with you. I've not

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shared it with Symbolic World. So what else would you

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want to do in the great wintering time but to

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sit at the feet of this wonderful story and let

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me be your guide. I'll see you there.

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