Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Shirley You Can't
Be Serious Podcast. We are here with a special interview episode.
Oh snap, We're getting ready to get jiggy with Andy Frye,
who is pretty fly for a white guy, talking about
his new book, which is hella good.
Speaker 2: No, stop stop, what that is awful?
Speaker 1: Hey, talk to the hand.
Speaker 3: I knew you're gonna say, talk to the hand, and
you're gonna say, don't go there because wrapped up in
the nineties already, I guess.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, what what's sapped? Andy Frye. So, dear Shirley listeners,
we are here talking with the author of a new
book called ninety Days in the Nineties. I don't think
it's given up too much to say. There's a little
time travel involved and obviously going back to the last
decade of the millennium. Yeah, it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: We both read it and had a blast.
Speaker 3: Many I'm glad you liked it. It was fun to write.
Speaker 1: So tell us about you, Andy. You you've done sports writing,
You've had stuff with Rolling Stone and what was the
other Man? ESPN? ESPN. Tell us about your kind of
your history in the writing world.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I started off doing a nine to
five like a lot of people, and you know, writing
was always a hobby in the background. So but I
wrote for ESPN for about six years. So most of it,
especially in the beginning, was extreme sports. So you probably
remember page two and all the wacky stuff that was
on page two. And one of the cool things was
at the same time I was writing, so probably like
twenty eleven in two thousand and let's say sixteen, one
of my favorite features there, like there's a lot of
stupid stuff and some of it was that Disney has
the Jonas Brothers, so they're like, hey, we own ESPN.
Let's put let's put the Jonas Brothers on the ESPN basketball.
We'll we'll play pick up with you know, Bonzie Wells
or whoever back, you know, whoever you can find to
hang out with him for We'll pay him enough. But
but I love the fact that Duff mccag and from
Guns of Rose is the bass player. He's a great writer.
He actually wrote a book on his own. He would
write a Wednesday column and I would always read and
I think it must have been when he was with
delet Revolver. He'd go around the country talk about, like,
you know, playing live, but also talking like football trash
talk with the lead singer Pantera. I remember the lead
singer Pantera is a Saints fan, and Duff, you know
from Pacific Northwest, he's a Seahawks fan, and you know,
they kind of lay it out as like we would
with our friends. You know, you could go visit one
of your friends from college or I don't know, you're
you're in the printing business and you go to printing conference,
but you're gonna en up talking about music and sports,
and that's how I think a lot of Americans are,
so uh yeah, I just kind of followed that, like
I consider myself a fan first, and I you know,
I would have written about log tossing championships for ESPN.
I just kind of wanted to write about things that
I thought were fun and fascinating, and so the first
couple of articles I wrote for them were extreme sports.
I actually did cover Southside Catholic football for a while
in the fall of twenty eleven. I basically had a
game a weekend and would cover like I don't know,
like a Saint Ritas versus Mount Carmel and kind of
all the parochial stuff that happens here in Chicago. And
then I had a stint just covering, like I mean,
what it was was aging rock starts and talking about sports.
I first started out with Billy from Smashing Pumpkins, who
was starting a wrestling league. He actually just started another
wrestling league now that his band is playing again. A guy,
he's a guy who always needs to keep busy, I guess, wow.
And I was blogging first site that was owned by
the Tribune, and I was the one person who got
the interview with him. I think just because our community
manager at the site was like, Hey, if you want
to interview Billy from Smashing Pumpkins as a wrestling league,
you know, here's here's who you contact. Don't bug me
about it. Good luck. You know. Literally, within within an hour,
I'm writing an email, like you know, with ESPN and
the subject line thick and I maybe I'll get a
bite on this. And I did, and we talked about
just sports fandom and why he's starting in his wrestling league,
and I eventually kind of played frogger hopped a couple
other interesting rockers who taught wanted to talk to me
about sports, like Noel from Oasis had a new band
at the time, which he still has now. I got
to talk. I got to do an email exchange with
Marssey from the Smiths, you know, the great Marssy, the
Fussy Morrissey, and talked about English football and some things
like that, and I just kind of, you know, I
just kind of took a project by project until about
the probably the summer twenty sixteen, and I made a
contact at Rolling Stone who was kind of their new
sports editor, and I lucked out that he was a
Cubs fan from Chicago, so, you know, and this is
twenty sixteen, when the Cubs are awesome and they won,
We're going to go on to win the World Series.
So I just always you know, I was in sales
and account management for party of twenty years. I just
kind of used that sink or swim impulse of like
reaching out with people, following up, you know, throwing ideas
out there and not getting offended with people like editors
would say no. And it's opened a lot of doors,
a lot of cool a lot of cool interviews and
just a lot of cool. You know, as a freelance writer,
I've got to do a lot more. Probably the most
freelancers just get to do, and you know, that's that's
kind of the brunt of my sports writing career.
Speaker 1: I guess you could say, you've talked to athletes about music,
and you've talked to musicians about sports, and you've talked
to Tom Brady about fashion.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we.
Speaker 1: Need to hear about that. I was going to say,
I'm kind of fascinated by the let's talk about the
thing that's not related to what you're famous for kind
of idea. I think that's fantastic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, maybe that's why I ended up at Forbes.
Things are kind of floundering at in about twenty eighteen,
at Rolling Stone they had a new buyer and they
kind of rebrand and just went like they kind of
dumped a lot of the pop culture that wasn't music related,
went straight to music. So I kind of saw the
writing on the wall. I just looked around and talked
to some people, and I ended up at Forbes as
a freelancer there. So the cool part about that is
it it's, you know, right for the sports vertical, basically
the sports business vertical. So sports business can be different
things to different people. I mean, the first really well
known athlete I interviewed there, but that was in May,
or like June of twenty eighteen, right after I started
there interview Johnny Bench and he was doing it must
have been in May, because you maybe in April. You
may remember this about five six years ago, Major League
Baseball decided that everybody was going to have everybody's gonna
play Opening Day on the same day, so all thirty
teams were playing. So Kingsford Charcoal had this commercial with
a couple of different players, but I remember the one
that I saw, I had seen a couple of times
was Johnny Bench was like literally sitting at desk cold
calling baseball fans won by but like, hey, you're gonna
be there there, Hey, I'll see you there. You know
you're gonna be there. I thought it was funny because
I was in sales, and you know, I pitched stocks
and currencies, and I smiled and dialed you know, way
too long, and I just kind of like two and
two connected. I thought, well, if I could search online
for these sometimes you look at like business Wire, there's
sites that have the press releases that become the basis
of an article. I knew that much, and I figured
if I could find out who the pr person the
publist publicists on this campaign is, and I stock him
a little bit. Maybe, you know, i'd get an interview
with Johnny Bench and I found the person and just
kind of pitched him on a Friday and her back
on a Monday, and they said, yeah, you know, we'll
get you ten minutes or fifteen minutes or so with
Johnny Bench on the phone. And you know, i'd be
great if you mentioned the sponsor. You don't have to
talk about how great Kingsford charcoal is. But he'll probably
all want to talk to you about barbecue because he's
that He's that guy. So that's kind of the blueprint
for business sports business, and you know, Tom Brady started
its brand, so it's kind of same, kind of a reverse.
I got an email probably even like December. You know
a lot of a lot of times it's like, oh,
here's a press release. We know you're going to want
to write about this, Go write an article. And it's
kind of every once while I'm a wise guy and
I will respond and be like, yeah, if you get
me Tom Brady on the phone for ten minutes, I'll
be glad to write an article about this. And a
lot of times the response, you know, I never hear anything.
I just assumed I wouldn't. Then like four days later,
publicist comes back and he's like, yeah, we can get
you ten minutes on like audio only zoom or the
phone with Tom Brady, and I was like, you know,
holy crap.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I got to ask the question, were you
really wearing Philadelphia Eagles?
Speaker 3: No? Well, the thing is like they put the audio only.
I wasn't allowed to see him, you know. I mean
maybe it's because he's way more famous than you know,
he's too famous for me to see what he looks
like coming you know, weren' a sweatshirt on a but
that's what they did to me. So I was like, oh,
can you see me? And he's like no, but I
can hear you. And it's like, oh, well, it's too
bad because I got you know, my my Nick Foles
jersey on and my in and he laughed or pretended
to laugh and was, you know, gracious about it. And
he's like, why are you doing this to me? Man?
And so I did say, like, don't hang up. I
think I'm an Eagles fan for Philadelphia, but you know,
his brand is all about apparel, So of course, like
either he's trying to be a designer or what I
figure was I'm gonna ask hibout this, like, oh, you're
starting this brand with you hire a designer, you got
business people behind you, Like, I'm assuming you have to
be coachable like you were when you started Bill Belichick.
Tell me about is that true or whatever? And he
was like, yeah, you know, I have like visions for
my brand. And obviously he has a style that you know,
he's I don't know, he's probably made a hundred million
dollars plus and he can afford whatever pairs of shoes
he wants or whatever. But he wanted to kind of
do two things which I thought was cool. He wanted
like his brand is like like I'm Onrea kind of
a plain gap shirt right now, but you know his
shirts and I guess his apparel is like kind of
plane and earth tones. And the other really cool part
is like instead of getting Gronk to pitch his stuff,
he's got most If you look at the website for
Brady Man, it's mostly college athletes. It might be all
college athletes. A lot of are from the university mission
of course, but it's like the star quarterback whose name
I forget, a tennis player, a track athlete, there's like
a swimmer like he could he could obviously go out
and get I don't know Kevin Durant to like pitch
his stuff, but he picked college guys and men and
women and just kind of people that he wanted to
kind of bring it back down to earth. And I
thought that was cool, and that was sort of the
approaches his brand. And everybody's different, Like so I get
to talk to all these great athletes about what are
you doing? And you know, I talked to Lindsay Vonn
a couple of times, and you know her, she's she's
got a bunch of different businesses and her products tend
to be very high end ski related stuff like a
little bit of lux but also high performance. And then
I just talked to Derek Jeter and I've talked to
GSP about their stuff, and there's stuff is kind of
more bare bones like Brady stuff. So everybody's doing something different.
It's great to kind of people talk to me. I mean,
I get to talk about the sports too. I never
do with Jim Gray and be like, well told me
about the time you missed the past and Barister team
because I'm not that kind of person, but I just
want to talk to them about the nuts and bolts,
So like, hey, what else do you do? And I
know that you are investing in real estate or you
got this fashion brand, and you know, I think it
disarms them because I mean, we journalists can you know,
we got a bad reputation in general, just do what
we do. You can be that person that nois the
heck out of somebody. But I think if you talk
to people like people talk about what they're doing, you know,
you get a good response and you get some gifts
in the conversation that make for good writing and you
know everything else.
Speaker 1: So kind of a touch base on the book. You
know that your main character starts off kind of Wall
Street type of the first who ends up leaving that
and going to own a record store that she's inherited.
What inspired you to start with this process? That the
was that the seed or was it something else and
that came along later?
Speaker 3: I think the only seed was originally I just had
this idea about five years ago that I think I
was listening to my Spotify playlist of the nineties playlist
and I just had a recurring thought there was like, oh,
it'll be cool to go back to the nineties, like
if you could time travel to see the show, you know,
like talk about our wishless concerts or sporting events that
I'd love to go back and see that a second time.
And I just as a writer, some of us writers
do this thing where we come up with We come
up with great ideas all the time, sometimes in the
middle of the night. We had a couple of beersier
at the bar and you have a bar napkin. It's
sort of the stereotypical thing like, oh, I write the
you know, the idea that founded Microsoft on a bar
napkin like that, that's the story. But you got to
test yourself and realize if you come with a great idea,
like do you care about it in two weeks? And
I kind of tested myself out that that way, and
just I still cared about I thought, you know, I
don't know how to write a book, but I want
to try the plot. I had the plot and probably
an idea some characters, and then like literally what Darby,
the main character in my days in the nineties comes
is a little bit some of it from my experience
from bounce around different jobs and then ending up really
doing what I want to do or what I was
supposed to do no longer in sales. I don't work
for a corporation anymore. So some of that informs the character.
But I really had to, like I mean, it's that
the end product of the books is completely different from
the first draft. Like I didn't know what I was
doing when I first started writing it. I had to
tweaked some things how to make more readable and shorten
it a lot, and then I hired an editor who
told me to change it from first person to third person,
and you know, a lot of those things just kind
of evolved. So when you are kind of figuring out
what the heck you're supposed to do and you want
to put this theme in you create some dialogue, You're like, oh,
this idea would be cool, But what if I did
this and you make discoveries? So that was really like
I could go through all of it, but that I
just kind of made a lot of discoveries and kind
of it took place in Chicago, so I know Chicago
and know the music scene, know this seeming just kind
of played with a lot and made it work.
Speaker 1: So there are tons of nineties references throughout, mostly music.
You got a few sports touch on sports, just a
bit here and there. I mean, you get what you
would expect. You get some Nirvana references, some Stone Table Pilots. Yeah,
which and we just we just got finished covering Stone
Tiple Pilot's Core versus Alison Chain's Dirt as to which
to which of those two albums was the best. And
so it's kind of neat knowing that both of those
guys not too terribly long after ninety six were gone.
And so you know, the idea that you could go
back and listen to Alison Chain's play with Lane Staley singing,
or with you know, stp with Scott Wiland singing, that's
an intriguing thought. I would want to go do that.
Your character's got a band that she when she begins
her journey, she wants to go check them out to
kind of see why they never became with what she
thought they should be called Dreaded Letters. Yeah, so I
know that's not a real band, but did you is
there a band that you can think of from that
time period where you were, like, man, I thought these
guys were going to be huge and then kind of
nothing happened.
Speaker 3: Well actually, so it's like correction. Darby is like when
she she she you see her in the beginning, she
kind of like in the first chapter, she's in this
record store this year inherited from her uncle Martin. Her
life in New York fell apart, you know, like her
she made a couple of bad crypto trades and her
broke up with her fiance. So now she's running this
record store, kind of getting a taste of like being
back in Chicago. And actually Dreaded Letters is a band
that you know, she saw him once when they were
nobody's and now they're one of the biggest bands of
all time, So I kind of, I mean stylistically, I
just thought of, like, so one of the bands that
maybe is close to them is Slater Kenny. Slater Kenny's
not super famous or but like they're just a riot
fester in Chicago, and I'm glad that they can open
up a show. You sell tickets in the ticket they're
gone in twenty minutes. And it could be because Carrie
was on Portlandia for all those years and a lot
of people know one of the members of the band
from that. But I kind of combined that with like
I think about I like, I have a sort of
an interest in rock trios, like the Jimmy Hendrick experience
and the Police, you know, kind of like the in
the Holy Triumphant Rush. I'm not a huge Rush fan,
but there's this dynamic that trios have that I think
a lot of other bands don't have, and it just
other than Green Day, there weren't and maybe the presence
there weren't really too many there were. Strangely, there are
a lot more four and five person bands and maybe
doesn't get down to that, but yeah, I just kind
of wanted to eventually I created the band. I think
I had hired an editor to kind of work with
me on some things, and at first she kind of
pushed like, well, she's gone back in time and she's
gonna like it's the real reason that she wants to
go discover like you know A does she played the
lottery and when the Jackpotter does, she discovered the band,
And yeah, I wanted to have some of that in there,
but not really have it be about the band. That
Darby's journey is really personal, so that when it's kind
of staple to that when she goes back into the
mid nineties, like, yeah, she's not trying to prevent nine
to eleven from happening, or she's not feeling like she
goes needs to go back further to kill Hitler or anything.
That's what we see a lot in time travel fiction
and movies, and that there's this big giant thing that
they have to solve or prevent. And I guess I
wanted to take it a different way, like I just
wanted to be like, maybe it's a generational thing. Like
I think of movies like that we love from the nineties,
like Days and Confused and pulp fiction where you just
hang out for the hangout for a day with the characters.
Both those movies take place over the span of twenty
four hours, and my book does not what I wanted
to say. I knew that one of the things I want
to do was the same dynamic, like there's these characters,
they're really cool, they're doing cool stuff, and you just
want to hang out with them. And I thought, you know,
I want to see if I could pull this off
in writing a book that you feel like you're tagging along.
You guys can tell me whether it worked or not,
you know, I think that that was something that I
hadn't seen in books before, and I wanted to.
Speaker 1: Just test it out.
Speaker 3: So so yeah, there's kind of like jEdit LETTERDS is
the band that she goes back to see. She kind
of thinks it's all about that, but it's not really
about that. That's it's an important like part of her
being a music fan, but there's a lot more her
life and you know what she's looking for than that.
Speaker 1: We talk about those things from our past, but we
do it. We do it because we kind of enjoy
the idea of living back in that time. I'm going
to quote your own book to you. Forgive me for
doing this, but you say, when she's kind of reached
what we think might be the end of her journey,
she had started off with this list, you know, like
The Dreaded Letters was on the list, Lena was on
the list. You know that she's got these objectives, and
then once she's there, that's not what happens, Like that's
my expectation. And then, like you said, you decided to
let her sit in a space and live with her
in that space. And so it says the only thing
that mattered for Darby was talking about more meaningless, stupid
things with her best friend again, and that meant everything,
and that kind of hit me. I was just like, Okay,
so this is really what it's all about. It's like
what we do We talk about stupid, meaningless you know,
movies that we loved and music that we loved. But
it's because it takes us back. And with a lot
of our listeners, they've got kids who are you know,
like a spacey kid who's maybe just learning about this stuff,
but they get to live in that experience with them.
I'll tell you in nineteen ninety six, I went to
Europe and I flew into Amsterdam and the whole coffee
shop story that I've got to I've got too. So
when you got to that part of the book, I
was like, oh wow, this is I mean, this has
hit me on all kinds of all kinds of levels.
But it's it is really that what we probably loved
about that time period was not necessarily the pop culture
stuff that we talked about. It was experiencing that with
our best friends and going through the friends.
Speaker 3: Are you guys both Oklahoma Sooners fans like diehards or what? Yeah,
I'm a diet I mean, they could suck for a
decade and you're still going to go to the games.
You're still going to like if you have kids, you're
gonna kind of bring them along and have them feel
the experience, and it doesn't really have to do with
who's coaching or who's who's playing. Like, you know, historically
the Cubs suck and we've had some good stints here.
But you know, my kid grew up knowing that he
dislikes the White Sox and he likes the Cubs, even
if he doesn't know, you know, who's starting tonight on
the mountain. So I think, you know, music in sports
and all those things, like we all kind of latch
on the things that we love, and some of it
is about what goes on in the you know, whether
it's following a sports team or following a band or
a scene. But a lot of it's just the experience.
And you know, you know Amsterdam was I don't know,
I think that was like we were the first generation
that did that. Like we got five hundred bucks in
our pocket, We got a little time, like we got
these we have a job, but we know our job
is not going to be your career. So I'm like,
why not plan Sometimes you just go walk around Europe
and see something different and end up on the other
side of the ocean. Your your culture shocked when there's
not skyscrapers everywhere, and people are speaking a different language
and it's different than how you expected, and there's no
strip malls, and it's just like, you know, I try
to tell my kid, my kids sixteen, I try to
tell him about that. He's been to Europe a couple
of times, just you know, with us, and I think
he appreciates other culture. But I don't know if he
gets that culture shock that we got. Like I remember,
like as a kid, going to the inner city as
we called it, you know, from the sub Phillies Philly
suburbs to the city and just being like shock that
like wow, you know, smells different, looks different. The street
food that they have street food here that I can't
get in my little suburb. Yeah, I just you know,
maybe I'm just a generational thing, just kind of fascinated
with like little experiences, and yeah, it sounds like something
that came through. So I'm glad. I'm glad you guys
enjoyed or picked up on some of that.
Speaker 1: So I meant to. I meant to actually asked this
when we started. So nineteen ninety six, which is when
or when Garby goes back to time? That's what. Oh,
by the way, I noticed that her first concert was
Huey Lewis. Yeah, who of course had the song back
in time. I don't know if that was purpose or not,
but good job. And and so in nineteen ninety six,
I was actually playing in a band. I had started
playing shows at you know, bars and stuff like that,
and then went to Europe. What were you doing in
ninety six? I got married in ninety six. Oh wow, yeah,
you're so old, but you know you got married.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm married, Yes to my wife Kelly.
Speaker 3: Did you know very well?
Speaker 1: My gosh.
Speaker 2: But so we pop out in September of ninety six,
I think right around there.
Speaker 1: I got married in.
Speaker 2: August ninety six. So I was telling d I can't
remember five things that happened in twenty sixteen, but when
you drop me off in ninety.
Speaker 3: Six, okay, it's very vivid.
Speaker 2: In my imagination and what's going on in the world.
So I had a great time revisiting ninety six. And
I'll just touch on something you said earlier, the person
that I want to hang out with the most is
Darby one.
Speaker 3: But Rachel, oh yeah, well you triw a picture that
she's she looks like a Jessica Chastain in a leather
jacket maybe, but yeah, yeah, Like that was another like
a couple of characters like her in space. He actually
kind of popped up later when I'm thinking, like I've
gotta my editor that I kind of said, you gotta,
you gotta set some limits and put some guardrails up here,
like well, the first thing was if she could just
come and go as she wants back in time, like
that's not gonna work, Like you need to have a timer,
or like you think about movies where there's a heist
or like a bomb's gonna blow up, like the hero
doesn't just think, oh, well, I got, you know, a
couple of weeks to disview as his bomb, because otherwise
that movie wouldn't work. So we did that and I
changed that. But I also, you know a lot of
obviously you could tell a lot of this is about
grunge and Indian alternative music, and you know, I suppose
if you love Celine Dion or Phil Collins nineteen nineties movies.
You know, hits, you're probably gonna be angry our characters
and narrator rip on that stuff, and even depeche Mode
a little bit that there's a little something in there
for everybody. And I wanted Darby's kind of music snobbishness,
which I have a little bit of that going on.
I mean, maybe you guys too. I wanted that to
be tested that she likes this girl named Rachel who's
a metal head, and like, how could you like hair
metal in the mid nineties? What's what's she does? Like
some cool stuff like Motorhead and tool and stuff like that.
But you know that that kind of pushes her buttons
a little bit because I remember when I was in
you know, twelfth grade or freshman year in college, like
I could have liked this girl, but if she was
into like radio pop, I just would have had no
interest because I can't really communicate. And you realize those
things don't matter when you grow up. But maybe that
was a nineties thing that you know, you know, oh,
you like you like country, Well, I'm into I'm into
the Ramones. We can't we can't hang out like that
was actually, you know, in the late eighties early nineties
when I was in you know, my twenties, and I
don't know, that's something a theme I wanted to play with.
That was fun to find a character who is like
I basically made her game to play that.
Speaker 1: So I will say this you so you've got listeners.
Check out the playlist on Spotify. He's got a playlist
that's called ninety Days in the Nineties as well that
is full, chocked full of nineties music that is in
the underground what I would expect from the book, but
then thrown in the middle of it, I'm I see
TLC and I'm pretty and I'm like, what what? How
did how did this radio pop jam fall it? Yeah,
it's mixed. So tell me about what were you What
were you listening to in ninety six yourself?
Speaker 3: So ninety six, I was twenty four, so this was
you know, I'll throw some other contacts context and this
is you know, I remember that. So I'll just say,
like in the summer, I want to say, July August
ninety six, I come home my roommates like we got
Tennis Robman today. I'm like, yeah, I know, I heard
of the radio, Like this is the second run of
the Bulls. Like literally, we actually would go to the
bar twice a week. Bar is silent while the game's on,
bowls down fifteen with two minutes to go, and we
know they're going to win. But I also had to
slip at some concerts too, like I would go to
Loungejacks when I could afford a fifteen dollars ticket to
see bands, Like a lot of it was like testing
the waters, Like I saw bands that I don't I'm
not super into now, like Chavez and Pavement and Elastica,
But like I kind of stuck with the ones that
I'm a huge Anglo file. So if you see the
other part of my room, you would see a Stone
Roses poster. I've got some like I love the Verb
and Oasis, and I like old British music too, like
The Who. So I think I was probably still stuck
in that. I probably of the grunge set. Allison Changes
my favorite, just because I think Lane Stale is just
such an amazing underrated singer. But the cool part about
the nineteen nineties and ninety six was, like, you know,
it was so much different than nineteen eighty eight, Like
in nineteen eighty eight, you turn the radio and to
be like Debbie Gibson and you know, just like pop
and Boys the Man, and occasionally if you got to
the right radio station, you might hear Pixie Song, you
might hear The Cure. And I was like, oh, oh,
this is like the music I like. In nineteen ninety six.
It was all you know, Oasis, Garbage, the Pixies, the Breeders,
Like there was never music that didn't appeal to me,
or that was uncreative or people in the band didn't
play the instruments. So there was so much there that
I felt like I was it was like a fire hose.
I was trying to consume and just be you know,
conscious of like, wow, it was another great song by
a band I never heard of that, you know, maybe
puts out two or three. So yeah, I mean pretty
much like the English music that I was always into.
I love Ned's Atomic Dust bind They kind of didn't
really do much after ninety four, but I saw them
when I first came to Chicago, and then like I
was just almost you know, it was it was a
great time to be open minded and consume different types
of music that I wasn't a diehard super fan of
only a genre like I have my friends who were
all into grunge, and then my friends who were into
New Order and kind of alternative dance music. I wasn't that.
I was kind of like, give me it a little
bit of everything, because I'm you know, dub reggae or
non grunge, you know, metal metal influenced rock. I was
into all of it. So I must have a lot
more bandwidth than I have now because I feel like
my brain shrinking in my fifties here. But the music
kind of is like a take, like taking vitamins every
day kind of keeps your brain working, keeps you alive.
So there's a long answer right there. But there was
so much to enjoy that I'm not sure that I
could pinpoint like one band or one sub genre.
Speaker 1: Really, so we're talking to books, we might as well
talk books too. You mentioned Jimmingway, you mentioned T. S
Elliott in there. Who's who's your inspiration or who do
you want to emulate when you're writing at this point
of the authors that you've read.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a couple obsolutely. I mean people talk about
Nick Hornby when they hear about Molley book is about
and I know Hyphadeli was a great book. You know,
the movie was shot here in Chicago. It takes place Chicago,
even though the book, the story of the book was
in London. And as you probably know, Hulu did a
series with Zoe Kravitz where it takes place in Brooklyn,
appropriately for the two thousands. So Nick Hornby's books are great.
I love Fever Pitch for I'm a huge English football
fan soccer fan, but I love like a couple things
like George Plimpton. Yeah, he's like obviously an upper class
person who tried to I think his struggle was to
associate with the common man, so to speak. Put out
a book called Paper Lion, where he kind of just
did what Eli Manning just did, like he showed up
to Detroit Lyons. I guess training camp at night sixty
eight is like a third string quarterback, and he was.
I think up to that point they had let him
play it in a preseason game and he was the
only quarterback to successively lose yardage in every play that
he played. I think that book's hard to fight. I
think it's hard to find out. I don't think it's
out of Prince called Paper Lion He's got a book
called The X Factor where he talks he hangs out
with the Bush family in Texas, and they're like the
Bush Family, like George W. And George Sr. And Neil
like and the and the daughters, Like they play horseshoes
when they're a vacase and they're super competitive about it,
like it's a bragging, right thing. So those two writers
are the main thing. But you know, I grew up
loving I like to read sports articles in nonsports publications
like The New York Times. Saturday always had great quirky articles.
My favorite broadcaster of all time was Dick Shapp because
he's like conversational like normal people are. So there's a
lot of influences that way. I'm not like, you know,
eighteen year old Stephen King, where I could say that
I read eight thousand books growing up and that's why
I'm a writer, like I actually probably didn't, probably haven't
read as much as I would like to think that
I could have. But yeah, those writers, and then also
Michael Schaibon I kind of first got took turned onto
his movies. I think the movie called The Wonder Boys.
It's hilarious, So I went and read his books after that. Yeah,
hornby Michael Sabon George Plimpton. I think because those people
do great dialogue, they talk about nuts and bolts, things
like sports and music, and they keep a conversational I
think all that has kind of driven me to right
the way right, and I hope i'm you know, in
the ballpark, but who knows.
Speaker 1: I remember George Plumpton as the guy who would introduce
the cartoons on the Disney Channel. Yeah, and they were
having the masterpiece theater style of cartoons. Later did I
find out? Because he did it with like several different
like he did open net and like he would just
do that. He just this every man, not particularly as
the athletic guy, that would get on with these sports teams.
And I just thought that was the coolest idea I've
ever heard.
Speaker 2: Tim Carver did a show on HBO a long time
ago that talked about the George Plumpton story. I remember
as a kid watching that, just fascinated that there's this
writer willing to play football just to see what it
was like.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have thought that, I like, because he's
kind of like the guy. I would have thought that
he would be a fearful of getting injured. But I
think in that time, like maybe in the sixteen seventies,
Like again, I haven't read all their books, but like
one of my favorite movies from the eighties is The
Right Stuff, and Tom Wolfe wrote that I think he
did as a series for Rolling Stone or something, but
he basically like, I want to interview these guys to
find out why they're willing to put themselves in danger
for this dubious thing, which now we look at astronauts
and we think it's like got to be the best job.
But in the sixties, when they didn't know whether the
rocket was going to blow up, like that was kind
of a risky thing. So I think it created a
whole new they call it new journalism, where a bunch
of authors would write, you know, mostly real life stories
but kind of add a little style to it, and
you know, take some liberties with the way that people,
real people were depicted to characters in terms of the
bravado or the way that they cast themselves. And I
think that that's we don't even think about that today.
We know that like maybe you know, Shack on the
TV commercials is different than Shaq in the locker room
and shack hanging out with his kids, and we're okay
with those different depictions of a person that we consider
like one person. But yeah, I think, you know, those
a lot of the writers from the the latter couple
decades of the twentieth century of influence me as a
writer and just sort of the way we think.
Speaker 1: So Jason pose his question as we were going through
the book. He was like, you know, what, what sporting
events would you go back to? What concerts would you
go back to? And I'm not I'm not as big
of a sports guy, but concert wise have already kind
of touched on it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I'd love to see the guys who we've lost before
we lost him, when they were kind of their peak,
and I would love to do it in like small venue.
I remember that I would hear that Pearl Jam would
show up at some you know, small club and just unannounced,
just come on stage and start playing. And if I
could be a part of, you know, part of the
audience for one of those shows, I would definitely do that.
But a small venue on some stuff I would I
would honestly have loved to see and Andrew would play.
I'd be interested to see because he was like, you know,
he treated the bars they were playing in like an arena.
So I got to think that would be fun. What
do you what do you got, Jason? What are you thinking?
Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm gonna do my top five and then
Andy will give you a chance to do your top
five musical and sports related, you know, time travel. Okay,
all right, So for me, I'm going wide right, I'm
not keeping it just to Chicago. Yeah, yeah, the Beatles
and Shay Stadium for me. Number one Live Aid in
nineteen eighty five, you two doing the Downtown La concert
where they do where the streets have no name with
that just kind of impromptu concert in the streets. I
think that'd be really cool. To go to the Moscow
Peace Festival in nineteen eighty nine. I'm a big hair
metal guy, man, I'm sorry, I think that'd be a
lot of fun. And then finally, you know, I mean,
Allison Chains with Blaine Staley would be incredible. Seeing Prince
or Michael Jackson, anything like that would be awesome.
Speaker 3: But I saw that.
Speaker 2: Metallica played a concert in Antarctica in twenty thirteen. Really yes,
And I'm like, dude, that would be the bomb.
Speaker 3: Do they play for like the researchers down there or
what it's like two hundred people? Yeah? Wow?
Speaker 2: So okay, Andy, we're putting you on the spot man
five dream Time Travel concerts that you would attend, all right.
Speaker 3: So I grew up in the Philadelphia area. I remember
I was thirteen when Live A came on. At the time,
I was really the Judas Priest and there's there's no
way that so I go to concerts with my kid.
Now we're going to Dinast for Junior next Friday, and
he's sixteen. There's no way my parents would have driven
downtown for me to see Judas Priests at Live A,
even if the dickets were cheap. So I'm gonna say
uh because I think the stage of the concert I
remember this from TV was like Joan Baiez sings with
Dale guitar, Billy Ocean comes on, and then at noon
it's Judas Priest. I'm like, that doesn't go together, but
that's pretty awo wow. I feel like Rob Halford, you know,
he sometimes will come out with a motorcycle on stage.
I don't remember if he did that. I feel like
he brought it out for like one song. It was like,
so that'd be number one. I'm not a fan of
anything having to do with Russia special see Putin, So
I will say, I'm gonna go the Prodigy playing Red
Square and you know, leaving by flipping the bird like
I think they rocked Red Square and then they just
went to go fly back to England to see a
west Ham game the next day. Number three, so I
think it was New Year's Day ninety six. Don't quote
me on this, I'd have to look it up, but
the House of Blues in Chicago opened up. I think
that was the day. But the first act was James Brown.
So and I heard like basically like you're not going
to get tickets if you're trying to get tickets, like
if you're you know, your CEO or your you know,
you're Billy Corgan or your Eddie Vedder coming in for
the weekend, yeah you might get in. But it was
you know, I'd love to see that House of Blues
is a great acoustics, they're all designed that way. And
to see James Brown while he's alive, you know, in
ninety six doing James Brown would that I'd have to
put that. So last two I think the last show
that that before Loungejacks closed, And I mentioned Lounge Jacks
is one of the venues. It might be the first
venue that Darby goes to in ninety days. In the nineties,
it was a great little club. If you watch high Fidelli,
they actually go to see Rita salad Lounge Jacks. But
I remember that the Pumpkins played their very the very
last show before the venue shut its doors. So I'm
gonna say that for number four. And you know, Smashing
Pumps was just here a couple of days ago. They
played Metro and like all my radio friends went, so
I'm a little jealous about that. So I guess that's
number four. And uh, I don't know. Since I'm a
British fan, I know that the sound wasn't supposedly great
on this, but I go back to I go see
the Stone Roses at Spike Island in nineteen ninety. I
didn't know about it until afterwards, but you know, I
was a big fan of the band. Big fan of
a band that doesn't play gigs and then gets back
together and plays them only the UK and then breaks
up before I get a chance to see them. Yeah,
I'm gonna go to you know, the Merseyside, England to
see that outdoor gig just to kind of see it.
So those are those would be my five.
Speaker 1: I guess okay, ninety six. I saw Smashing Pumpkins play. Yeah,
I saw in Little Rock, Arkansas, Okay, and had front
I wasn't even a big Pumpkins fan, like I mean,
it was just like, hey guys, we got tickets and
we happened to also have front row tickets, Like, okay,
we'll go. The girl I went with Billy Corgan took
her on stage. I was see you later.
Speaker 3: He did like Bruce Berings seen dancing in the dark
thing where he reached out and brings her up on
stage like with Courney Boxes.
Speaker 1: Basically exactly like that, like she got a kiss, she
kind of awkwardly danced. It was very very much the
yeah and the night was over for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so let's go to sports. I love how
your your book really one of the tent pole events
for me anyway, because I didn't grow up in Chicago.
Is the Bulls, Right. Everybody in the world called Michael
Jordan and the Bulls at that time, and so that
cemented that idea of where we are in the story.
But I'm gonna get my five and then I give
you five top five time travel sporting events.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2: So Number five for me Kurt Gibson's homer in the
nineteen eighty eight World Series. Not a big Dodgers fan
or even an Oakland AG fan. I just want to
see that event happen, like I think that would be amazing.
I'd love to see the ninety two Dream Team play
in Barcelona, the greatest team ever assembled?
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Yes?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Number three for me, I want to see Tyson
and Buster Douglas in Tokyo in nineteen ninety. Okay, the
biggest baddest man in the world gets knocked out, biggest
upset of all time.
Speaker 1: I will go back to Tyson versus Sphinx, where I
went to go get a coke and some chips and
I missed the fight. I would go back just so
I could see that ninety.
Speaker 3: Second five ends or something. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Number two for me Game six of the Mets Red
Sox World Series in nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 3: Wait, witch, Game Game six was that when Bill Buckner
like the blog of his legs. Okay, yes, yes, Red
Socks fan obviously at the time.
Speaker 2: I was just kind of a bandwagon New York Mets
fan at that moment.
Speaker 1: So uh.
Speaker 2: And then number one, the Miracle on Ice. Come on,
that's number one for me. Okay, Andy Fry, you're on
the hot seat. Top five sporting events.
Speaker 3: Well, because I couldn't get tickets the whole three plus
years and Jordan was back with Bulls, I'm gonna say
any of the any of the NBA Final games, uh,
from ninety six, ninety seven, ninety eight. I mean probably,
like I you know, i'd have to go to Utah
unfortunately to see it, but to see Jordan, you know,
dash one way and dust Brian Russell and put it
back up and actually right behind me, I've got the
the shot is right there over my shoulder where yeah,
when you look at the crowd, there's all these Utah
Jazz fans were like no, No. One kid who was
a Bulls fan apparently in the in the background going
like yeah, oh my god. You know, so like Jordan's
making a shot and and Brian Russell's like over here
halfway on the floor. So that would probably, I guess
I'd just say that number two. I'd say, probably like that, uh,
not the Harp on the Bulls, But I want to
say it's the nineteen eighty five the slam Dunk contest,
the one, the first one where Jordan really like cleaned up,
you know, I think, uh that post now, I think
it's that that's the one was him and Dominique Wilkins.
If I could have the year wrong, but yeah, let's
say just the Jordan versus Wilkins, and Jordan wins the contest,
even though it's not like official sanctioned thing. Uh. Probably
the other three, like, uh, you know that Alabama Auburn
game a couple of years ago where Auburn caught the
field goal that didn't become a field goal and ran
it back and scored a touchdown. Awesome. Yes, and I'm
not even a huge college football fan, but I'll say
for the fourth one, most of my family's Ohio State fans.
And I loved the first year the BCS playoffs, seeing
I think it was new was it a New Year's Eve?
I feel like my family all went to bed and
I watched Ohio State bludgeon Alabama on national TV and
then keep they kept it. There's a couple of pick
sixes and they just completely distroyed and embarrassed Alabama the
first time out. I'd be I mean, you know, o,
Higo States fans are pretty obnoxious and maybe even more
so than than Alabama fans could be. But that just
had to be, you know, something to see. So yeah,
I probably go with that one. And out of the
fifth one, I don't know, like, uh, throw a wild
card in there. I don't dislike Ronda Rowsey, but I
would like to see Holly Holm knock her out just
because it was so unexpected and it's kind of like
health rows over, you know, and sort of skill and
sort of the traditional side of that sport. Trump to
the bullet that's pretty much the same thing as Buster
doug Well, it's in this in the same ballpark as
Buster Douglas knocking out Tyson Orlanic Lewis knockout Tyson. Like
the big behemoth that was supposed to level the field
got clocked. And yeah, I don't I don't uh dislike
rod to Rousey, but that was you know, Yeah, let's
throw some of the best women fighters in there for
the top of the list. I'll go with that one.
Speaker 1: Awesome, awesome, Okay, So we're more eighty centric, but we
definitely have fallen back into the seventies and dipped heavily
into the nineties as well, And so we want to
know your opinion on some of the nineties things, nineties
movies and music that ever. Give us your We're going
to give you matchups. You tell us which one you pick,
and if you feel like, if you feel like you
need to explain your choice, feel free to explain it.
Speaker 2: To Okay, this is a little bit of a lightning
round that if you want to expand on this, you
feel free go for it, all right. So earlier this
year we did Goodfellas versus The Godfather.
Speaker 3: The Godfather is sort of the archetype of the perfect movie,
but I enjoyed Goodfellas more. Okay, So like the first
time I saw it, actually it was probably like ninety six,
and my roommate at the time was a film school grad.
He actually is the model for the character in my
book named Rod James Bottoms Assess seven. I think it's like,
I was, yeah, I've never seen Good fellow It's like, what, Okay,
we're gonna watch it right now. Watch you watch it
right now? And it was like a I don't know.
It was just like a Sunday afternoon. Yeah, it was
worth it to just stop what I was doing to
watch Good Fellows. I'm gonna say that one.
Speaker 1: Is your buddy short. Oh yeah, and did he date
super Modeled a.
Speaker 3: Couple of times? Yeah, hits some. He's some tall, glamorous
women that he needed. I mean, all those are exaggerations,
which is what you do in fiction. But yeah, there's
a there's a five story where he hung out with
Wesley Snipes one night in Chicago when he was in
town for for Blade to promoting Blade two and like
ninety eight or something, and all kinds of great stories
about like how weird Wesley Snipes is. And I go
on doing on a doing different episode than that. I
can even talking about that online. But uh, yeah, Wesley
Snipes is apparently a he's uh he thinks he knows
how to do kung fu and whatever, so r.
Speaker 1: Like, but he hits like.
Speaker 3: Always been on black back for a while.
Speaker 2: All right, here you go, this is a few your episode.
We're hoping to do collective soul versus live.
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't dislike collective soul. I know a lot
of people think they're like post grunge, or there's I've
heard a lot of people kind of level criticism is like, oh,
there's radio band kind of grunge you want to be.
I think they're just regular dudes who put out an
album or two. And but I don't know. I mean,
I really like mental jewelry. I got this conversation with
somebody a couple of days ago. The first live album
that came out when I was maybe a sophomore in college,
which is less grungey. It's more I don't know, it's
just unique. And uh, I don't know. So I'm gonna
say probably live because I think that there have a
little bit more musical depth. And yeah, they just I
don't want to say either one is better, but there's
a little bit more of a I'm gonna listen a
little closer when I listen to Live.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, here you go comedies Dumb and dumber
versus something about Mary.
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, they both grew on me. I mean,
that's kind of a toss up. But I'm gonna say
dumb and dumber is because even though I know that
you know the jokes are sophomooric. I can go back
and watch that movie anytime, and it's like still funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, Caddy Shak versus Happy Gilmore.
Speaker 3: I think Caddy Shack just because it's so much more
quotable and classic. But of Adam Sandler movies, Kapy Goimore
is one of the better ones. Is one of the
ones he didn't screw up by being Adam Sandler.
Speaker 2: All right, here you go the use your Illusion guns
and Roses albums versus Telica's Blackoutum.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say use your illusion to primarily, but either
one will do. Yeah, okay, the Roses fan. I just
watched the Metallica you know, like my cable provider I
think is Xfinity, was like only on this week Metallica
set at Lollapool Lose And I don't tend to be
interested in Lollapo because it's more of a popfest now,
but it came out. I'm like, yeah, I'm watching this
and it was, you know, it was like an hour
of Metallica just being Metallica. And the cool part was
like you could see the fans and like all the
metal heads who came there just for that were up front.
There's no oh my god, I think I like Metallica
because like there's dudes, so you could tell, like have
the next he's been following them for decades. We're at
upfront for that show, so it was a real deal.
I can't disparage either one of those bands, but I
just lean more guns than Roses because I like them better.
Speaker 1: So okay, all right.
Speaker 2: Allison Chain's Dirt Album versus Stone Tumble Pilot's Core both
really same Day ninety two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they's not my favorite album, although it was a
pretty solid one, but like Alison Chain's better than STP.
I don't dislike SDP, but yeah, I'm gonna go with
Alison Chains always.
Speaker 1: Okay. Cool.
Speaker 2: Last one, Pearl Jam's ten album versus Nirvana's never Mind kind.
Speaker 3: Of depends on what mood I'm in. Like I've got
tons of super like Pearl Jam people who like all
their golf clubs have like a Pearl Jam, you know,
like a you know, the things you put on your
golf clubs. Keeping Like I've got those friends who are
just you know, like they've been to fifty concerts, so
I appreciate them, but I think, yeah, I've it took
me a while to if you ask me in nineteen
ninety nine. Let's say, like, do you really like never Mind?
Be like, yeah, it's it's good. It's really grown on me.
And I'm not like a depressive sad person ever. I
have a pretty good life. Because I want to put
on never Mind just kind of feel it what Kirk
Comaine was feeling and talking about. I think, in retrospect
the emotions of his lyrics, and I mean, the musicianship
is great but simple, and I just think that now
more than ever, that you realize how much how good
that album is. Never Mind is and program is great
to attend. But I didn't get it back then when
it came out, but I get it now that never
Mind is just such a great album.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna dive just a bit deeper because this is
the point of contention between Jason and I. On never
Mind has a song called Territorial Pissings. I think it's
punk gold. Jason thinks it's absolute trash. Three thoughts.
Speaker 3: I think it's punk old. But they have some other
songs like love Buzz that are better punk punk gold.
So I think, like my favorite song, but I think
the best song on never Light as come as you
are in terms of like a tune lyrically maybe lithium. Yeah,
it's all subjective, isn't it.
Speaker 1: So I think that's one of the things that I
like best about the book is that you've got guys,
I mean from the outset, even when she's in twenty
first century, You've got guys in her record store who
are arguing about the merits of various types of music.
And it's a conversation that you can have with anybody,
And as long as you keep it friendly and good nature,
it's a great conversation to have. You know, you can
act shocked and dismayed, but it's all really just in
good fun.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: D So this week we got a Shirley showcase from
our good friend Amber Lewis of the Docking Base seventy
seven podcast.
Speaker 1: She's going to talk about Lethal Weapon versus Diehard, which
we covered back Christmas or two ago, and I'm anxious
to hear what she has to say.
Speaker 2: First of all, let's just make sure that if she
says that these are Christmas movies, then we automatically she's like.
Speaker 1: Best friends with us. Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's hear what she has to say.
Speaker 4: Hello, Shirley fans, This is Amber Lewis frequent guest of
the Docking Bay seventy seven podcast, here to discuss two
of the greatest Christmas movies of all time. That's right,
die Hard and Leath the Weapon. First, we have Bruce
Willis as a New York City cop John McClain, who
finds himself trapped in Nakatomi Plaza on Christmas Eve as
the Great Alan Rickman, together with Alexander Goudanoff and a
team of terrorists, take control of the building to steal
six hundred and forty million dollars worth of Bearer bonds.
Their meticulous plans are thwarted, however, by our cowboy hero McLain,
who acts as the self described fly in the Ointment,
the Monkey in the wrench, the pain in the ass. McLain,
with the support of Officer Al Powell via Waukie Talkie,
uses his street smarts and sense of humor to outwit
the glorified bank robbers and save his wife and the day. Elsewhere,
in the City of Angels, Detective Roger Murtau played by
Danny Glover is forced to spend his last week before
retirement partnered up with Mel Gibson's detective Martin Riggs, who
may be crazy or just acting crazy to draw a
psycho pension, but should definitely be registered as a lethal weapon.
The two detectives have to try to not kill themselves
or each other while tracking down the Shadow Company, who
is trafficking heroin from Asia to the United States. The
two detectives save MARTA's daughter and the city while forming
a true and lasting partnership that is sealed by the
sharing of the world's Worst Christmas Dinner. With this matchup,
we all need to first come to the agreement that
these are in fact Christmas movies, even down to the
detail that they both have happy endings with a Christmas
Carol playing us out as to which movie is better.
It's a challenge to choose when one is a Buddy
Cup movie and the other is an every man's hero movie.
Leith a Weapon is a much darker story and Danny
Glover does not get near enough credit for his amazing work,
but the villains in this movie are by far the
weakest and less interesting point. However, die Hard has a
much more relatable hero, a stronger cast of supporting characters,
and one of the best movie villains ever. The comedy
Lands the effects are greater, and it's generally a more
fun movie that I will definitely stop and watch no
matter what. Put down the remote. I'm in for the
long haul and that's what makes it the winner in
this matchup. That's your Shirley's showcase for this episode. Thanks
for listening, and check out Docking Base seventy seven.
Speaker 2: Okay, Amber, absolutely, these are fantastic Christmas movies and we
love your pick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we are obviously on the same page. If you
haven't heard her episode on those two movies, go check
them out. But we are die hard, die hard.
Speaker 2: Fans if you will, We're die hardly the Weapon fans
to be honest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we're die harder.
Speaker 2: And Alan Rickman is one of the greatest movie villains
of all time.
Speaker 1: Yes, Sin, since he's moving up to kidnapping, you should
be more politible.
Speaker 2: Ember, Thank you so much for doing that for us.
We sure appreciate you. If you get a chance, go
check on our friends Dayton Johnson and Amber Lewis over
at the Document seventy seven podcast.
Speaker 1: Thanks ever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but those people are in record stores everywhere. Like
you can get an argument with somebody in a record
shore if you want to just buy a side conversation
you picked up on like, oh, can you say that,
you know, say that this version of the song is
better than that? Yeah, that was That was one fun
part of the book that just kind of happened our game. Well,
I'm glad that you like that. You want to take
the gray Line with me time travel back to the nineties.
We can go fight with those people if you want
to our our music tastes. That's sort of the spirit
of the book. I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we would love to take the gray Line and
travel back with you to the nineties.
Speaker 1: That would be awesome. Hey, we're going to wrap it
up before we go. Can you tell people where they
can get your book?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so if you want to go to Nineties and
Nineties dot com. That's my website. It's the Nineties and
the Nineties with the numbers, and that's a direct for me.
And I'll sign it for you to send some swag.
And also you can buy it on Amazon too. It's
Amazon or any other place you buy books. I suppose
buying it direct from the author. You know, if you
really want to make sure that Jeff Bezos has more
stupid cowboy hats, go to Amazon. I mean, like, we
all buy stuff on Amazon, so it is there, and
if you want to get from there, that's fine too.
But I can sign you a copy for Interesting Coming
to Ninetyays in the nineties dot com. Other than that,
if you're in Chicago, there are a couple of places
like Reckless Records and Rattleback Records have a couple of copies,
and I try to get the local record stores and
bookstores to to participate too, So it just depends on
where you buy books, and a couple of places there
you can get it.
Speaker 1: Awesome.
Speaker 2: Well, Diana had a great time with this one. Yeah,
to our listeners, if you're looking for a book that
will bring you back to the nineties and grunge and music.
Speaker 1: And sports and also just hanging out with your friends
and just the importance of being in that moment and
just loving on people who maybe you twenty years later
didn't see again. I think that's I think that kind
of was one of my favorite features that you did.
You did appreciate, Hey, one of the things that was
great about this was the people that I got to
spend that time with. So I think it's really well
done book. Anybody that is listening please check it out.
We love it.
Speaker 2: It has sparked conversation between D and I about people
in his past, people in my past, friends that are
long gone, that type of thing.
Speaker 1: So that's been fun, too awesome.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you guys liked it, and thanks for having
me on.
Speaker 1: It's been great having you Andy anything, any parting words
that you'd like to give to people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Phil Collins, I'm sorry, I don't like your stuff.
You know, the book is about music, snop, somebody's got
to get beat up. But I've been listening to some
like early eighties Genesis in the car a little bit
like actually, you know, like once I got rid of
Peter Gabriel, I like Genni Sits. But then, you know,
then you give Toul Collins eight million dollars to come
up with a sappy song for Lion King too, it
all goes to hell. So we'll have our hang ups
about music, and that's part of what makes it fun.
Speaker 2: I guess for the record, I love eighties Phil Collins,
so yeah, it is.
Speaker 1: It is a bunch of fun. So everybody please go
check out that book. Thank you for joining us. Remember
to go leave a review on our podcast page. If
you want to be an executive producer, definitely go over
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podcast chasing anything else.
Speaker 2: Go to ninety Days in the Nineties dot com and
pick up Adies Book.
Speaker 1: Okay, one more nineties cliche Yes later, Dudeticulator