WEBVTT 1 00:00:30.079 --> 00:00:32.439 Hello everybody, I'm welcome back. Thank you very much for 2 00:00:32.520 --> 00:00:36.640 joining me tonight. I am sharing a startling update on 3 00:00:36.679 --> 00:00:39.719 a recent case and a number of new encounters and 4 00:00:39.799 --> 00:00:43.359 experiences that have come into BBN. Sin is our last 5 00:00:43.520 --> 00:00:47.960 podcast two weeks ago now. Last month, I shared what 6 00:00:48.079 --> 00:00:50.920 has become a very worrying case that took place in 7 00:00:50.960 --> 00:00:55.439 the area of Brigstock in the UK. Now, the accounts 8 00:00:55.479 --> 00:00:59.520 centered around a missing man who died in mysterious circumstances 9 00:01:00.119 --> 00:01:04.120 and he was found later in conditions that were held 10 00:01:04.159 --> 00:01:07.799 back by the coroner other than the statement that he 11 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:11.719 did have some lacerations. Now I'll give you a recap 12 00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:14.760 of those events and share with you the information received 13 00:01:15.239 --> 00:01:19.200 from the UK police about the incident, which they refuse 14 00:01:19.560 --> 00:01:23.439 to either confirm or deny. Now, the man was in 15 00:01:23.480 --> 00:01:25.799 his sixties and he was employed as a beata for 16 00:01:25.879 --> 00:01:29.000 one of the Loveful shoots between two three pm in 17 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:32.599 the afternoon on the last drive. One of the birds 18 00:01:32.599 --> 00:01:35.000 that had been shot was outstanding. They hadn't found it, 19 00:01:35.079 --> 00:01:37.319 so the beata and his dog went back in to 20 00:01:37.439 --> 00:01:40.680 the woodland to get that bird. They to retrace the 21 00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:45.159 steps they'd just made know under normal circumstances, This should 22 00:01:45.159 --> 00:01:48.079 have taken no more than say, ten to fifteen minutes 23 00:01:48.120 --> 00:01:51.640 at the most, and he had a trained retriever with him, 24 00:01:51.680 --> 00:01:55.000 but he didn't have a gun. When he didn't return, 25 00:01:55.599 --> 00:01:59.519 people became concerned and searching the area for him, but 26 00:01:59.519 --> 00:02:02.760 there was no s of him. His family made posts 27 00:02:02.760 --> 00:02:06.280 about his disappearance and shared them on Facebook, asking for help. 28 00:02:07.040 --> 00:02:11.000 By eight pm, some five hours later, the police were 29 00:02:11.159 --> 00:02:15.199 stationed on the outside of the woodland along with some 30 00:02:15.240 --> 00:02:17.680 of the shoot members who had been asked to stay, 31 00:02:18.560 --> 00:02:20.919 and they never went into the wood to search for him. 32 00:02:21.680 --> 00:02:26.439 He simply kept other people from entering the woodland. Then 33 00:02:26.560 --> 00:02:30.199 the family's Facebook postings were removed. That's the very night, 34 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:33.360 even though at the point they were removed, he hadn't 35 00:02:33.400 --> 00:02:37.759 yet been found. Around eleven am the following day, which 36 00:02:37.800 --> 00:02:41.360 would have been the Sunday, paramedics were in attendance in 37 00:02:41.400 --> 00:02:44.719 the field to the roadside of Springwood. Now the missing 38 00:02:44.759 --> 00:02:48.000 man was either found dead on site or he died 39 00:02:48.039 --> 00:02:52.159 in hospital later that day, but he had no other 40 00:02:52.520 --> 00:02:59.240 injuries other than the bulb, other than noticeable lacerations. Now 41 00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:03.199 at the local about it between themselves, but there had 42 00:03:03.240 --> 00:03:08.280 been no official statement made. If his death was an accident, 43 00:03:08.560 --> 00:03:12.240 then surely that would have been stated. He even't reported 44 00:03:12.240 --> 00:03:16.080 in the local newspaper, But it wasn't If it took 45 00:03:16.080 --> 00:03:20.599 his own life, you'd think the same would apply. One 46 00:03:20.639 --> 00:03:23.400 local man who lived quite close to the woodland, stated 47 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:26.599 that there were upwards of thirty police officers out that 48 00:03:26.719 --> 00:03:29.400 night and the man that was found in an area 49 00:03:29.639 --> 00:03:34.759 that could have been easily searched, meaning he was out 50 00:03:34.800 --> 00:03:38.240 there all night and into the next day before he 51 00:03:38.360 --> 00:03:42.000 was found. Why didn't he search that wood Now? When 52 00:03:42.000 --> 00:03:43.719 this chat went over to the police to see if 53 00:03:43.759 --> 00:03:47.919 they needed any assistance, he realized that the firearms squad 54 00:03:47.960 --> 00:03:51.199 were involved due to the missing man being an experienced shooter, 55 00:03:52.240 --> 00:03:56.039 but he didn't have his gun with him that day. 56 00:03:56.159 --> 00:03:59.120 The woodland's very small, so he has no idea how 57 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:02.919 it was even possible to go missing there. Other than 58 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:06.159 the police presidence, you wouldn't have known anything was happening 59 00:04:06.280 --> 00:04:09.199 or that anything was wrong. The police did do a 60 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:11.960 house to house checked to see if anyone had seen him. 61 00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:20.040 Nobody had and nobody knows what happened with his dog. Now, 62 00:04:20.079 --> 00:04:21.959 the man who was the head of the shoot had 63 00:04:22.040 --> 00:04:25.720 made a report some months earlier after coming face to 64 00:04:25.800 --> 00:04:29.680 face with what he described as a large black cat. 65 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:33.759 The wooden question is stopped for shootes and the large 66 00:04:33.879 --> 00:04:36.319 pen where the birds are raised, and it's an area 67 00:04:36.439 --> 00:04:39.560 used by people for that reason. He said on the 68 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:41.480 day that he saw on the cat, it was in 69 00:04:41.639 --> 00:04:44.920 thick brambles, and they looked at each other and he 70 00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:48.160 held themselves together on more past it. So we know 71 00:04:48.639 --> 00:04:51.360 that a large cat has been spotted in the area, 72 00:04:51.959 --> 00:04:54.439 and I know of some other reports because I have 73 00:04:54.519 --> 00:04:56.839 the one on my map. While all mentioning a large 74 00:04:56.879 --> 00:05:01.720 black cat, in fact, there are seven reports in all 75 00:05:01.800 --> 00:05:05.199 of the counties of large black cats not native to 76 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:10.240 the UK, and the sightings are increasing. I find this 77 00:05:10.360 --> 00:05:13.839 case baffling, so I applied under the Freedom of Information 78 00:05:13.920 --> 00:05:18.959 request laws for information held by the constabora that pertains 79 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:22.639 to this case. I specifically asked if they could confirm 80 00:05:22.720 --> 00:05:26.199 that the incident with the man happened and for information 81 00:05:26.519 --> 00:05:29.720 on the deceased man. I applied three times in all, 82 00:05:30.439 --> 00:05:33.000 and it was only on the third request that I 83 00:05:33.040 --> 00:05:37.439 received a response, and it states quite clearly that and 84 00:05:37.519 --> 00:05:41.480 I quote Hampshire and the Isle of Wight Constabulary of 85 00:05:41.639 --> 00:05:46.480 neither willing to confirm nor deny that it holds information 86 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:52.720 with regards to the specific investigation. Any confirmation or dial 87 00:05:53.800 --> 00:06:00.079 information were or were not held may jeopardize future investigation 88 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:06.279 measures or any associated legal case. And although we recognize 89 00:06:06.279 --> 00:06:09.920 a general benefiting confirmation or denial in the importance of 90 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:15.600 transparency overall, we do not consider it appropriate to confirm 91 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:22.319 or deny that information. Now, I did a follow up 92 00:06:22.399 --> 00:06:25.759 with another request for information on any large cats or 93 00:06:25.800 --> 00:06:30.240 strange animals or cryptire reports that have happened in the 94 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:34.920 brigstock area or around spring Wood, and I was advised 95 00:06:34.920 --> 00:06:38.240 by Hampshire Police that it would cost over four hundred 96 00:06:38.319 --> 00:06:42.439 pounds to make that search happen. So I think my 97 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:46.959 next move is to submit individual reports for the years 98 00:06:47.240 --> 00:06:50.920 either side of the event happening and see if that 99 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:54.560 will garner any information. So I'm thinking if I asked 100 00:06:54.600 --> 00:06:58.079 for the year before and I stick with just the 101 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:03.079 area of brigstock Wood, we may get an answer back 102 00:07:03.120 --> 00:07:06.720 because that would be just one search. Now, I can't 103 00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:10.240 understand why it costs around about five hundred pounds because 104 00:07:10.279 --> 00:07:13.040 basically you would just be put in the search words 105 00:07:13.279 --> 00:07:18.600 large cat, brigstock spring Wood and see what comes back 106 00:07:18.800 --> 00:07:22.639 with that. Now, if they're saying there isn't a large 107 00:07:22.639 --> 00:07:25.079 amount of CAT reports, then that should be a very 108 00:07:25.279 --> 00:07:31.759 quick process unless there are many large CAT reports, too 109 00:07:31.839 --> 00:07:37.600 many for them. Two. But I don't know. I don't 110 00:07:37.639 --> 00:07:40.199 work for the freedom of information, but I do you 111 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:42.720 find it really concerning that it took me three goals 112 00:07:42.759 --> 00:07:46.920 to actually get a mention at all. When I submitted 113 00:07:47.160 --> 00:07:50.920 the freedom of information requests for the incident on the 114 00:07:50.959 --> 00:07:54.000 man that had gone missing and was found dead with lacerations, 115 00:07:55.000 --> 00:07:59.519 I thought that if that case hadn't happened, it would 116 00:07:59.519 --> 00:08:02.079 be a really simple no, we have no knowledge on this, 117 00:08:02.199 --> 00:08:05.120 We do not know you know that this event took place. 118 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:08.079 But that wasn't what they said. They said they would 119 00:08:08.160 --> 00:08:13.240 neither confirm nor deny because the information they have on 120 00:08:13.319 --> 00:08:18.279 it could be used a later date in the criminal case, 121 00:08:19.360 --> 00:08:23.160 which tells me that that man disappeared and was found 122 00:08:23.199 --> 00:08:26.279 in unusual circumstances. Or it would have been really easy 123 00:08:26.360 --> 00:08:29.800 to just deny it and say no, negative, this didn't happen, 124 00:08:29.879 --> 00:08:32.679 you know. Or I thought, what would happen is we'd 125 00:08:32.679 --> 00:08:37.879 get the usual Normally, when I submit freedom of information request, 126 00:08:38.240 --> 00:08:41.200 I get a return back saying, you know that it 127 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:44.440 wasn't in the coroner's interest to release the information, or 128 00:08:44.440 --> 00:08:46.720 they didn't think it was in the public interest to 129 00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:49.879 release the information. So that's what I was expecting, but 130 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:54.039 I was not expecting we, you know, refused to deny 131 00:08:54.200 --> 00:08:57.480 or confirm that this event took place. It's the same 132 00:08:57.519 --> 00:08:59.320 with the big cats, and it'd be really easy for 133 00:08:59.360 --> 00:09:02.559 them to look check. I mean, newspaper reports is where 134 00:09:02.600 --> 00:09:04.679 I found So you know, it's not our art. They're 135 00:09:04.679 --> 00:09:08.000 out there on the internet, but that is the powers 136 00:09:08.000 --> 00:09:11.480 that be, you know, and how they are. So that 137 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:15.519 was our first case, and as you can see from 138 00:09:15.559 --> 00:09:18.080 the freedom of information requests, it didn't get very far. 139 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:20.480 But I haven't give up. I'm going to keep going. 140 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:23.000 There'll be a LOOPO. I'll find the door and I'll 141 00:09:23.039 --> 00:09:27.720 get in there. So for our second case, tonight, we 142 00:09:27.759 --> 00:09:31.840 are going to hear of local tales the feral people 143 00:09:32.279 --> 00:09:35.440 who roamed the Baron Fells. Now, I must tell you 144 00:09:35.519 --> 00:09:39.240 before we do this report one every one of us, 145 00:09:39.240 --> 00:09:41.360 don't they We have this weird fear and we don't 146 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:43.919 understand what it is. Well, I can put my weird 147 00:09:43.960 --> 00:09:46.480 fear of wild people down to the thing that I 148 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:48.879 saw when I was fifteen, and if any of you 149 00:09:48.960 --> 00:09:54.679 were ex files watches, you'll remember one episode where there 150 00:09:54.679 --> 00:09:59.000 were feral people, wild people that lived in the woodlands 151 00:09:59.120 --> 00:10:01.559 and they would like come out of tree chunks or 152 00:10:01.679 --> 00:10:04.639 up from a leaf pile and grab humans and take 153 00:10:04.679 --> 00:10:07.039 them away and eat them, which is awful. It's very 154 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:13.039 much like the sawney bean Taiale in Scotland. But that 155 00:10:13.240 --> 00:10:17.039 I can't watch that episode of absolutely freaks me out. 156 00:10:17.080 --> 00:10:19.399 It's the idea that you can be walking through a 157 00:10:19.440 --> 00:10:23.720 woodland and that woodland clearing that's a stump of you know, 158 00:10:23.919 --> 00:10:26.639 loads of old stumps or some old moss or where 159 00:10:26.679 --> 00:10:30.919 they drag the blackberries, could literally be hiding a feral 160 00:10:31.080 --> 00:10:34.320 person that is a cannibal in some way, you know. 161 00:10:34.360 --> 00:10:36.720 And what if those feral people and what we're mixing 162 00:10:36.799 --> 00:10:40.120 up with bigfoots. That's for a whole other podcast. But 163 00:10:40.279 --> 00:10:41.960 let us have a listen to what one of my 164 00:10:42.039 --> 00:10:44.919 listeners sent in. I thought it was bloody brilliant, so 165 00:10:45.080 --> 00:10:47.960 she said, I recently stumbled on your podcast and I 166 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:50.679 just wanted to say how much I've been enjoying it. 167 00:10:51.320 --> 00:10:54.320 The stories and encounters which you share really strike a 168 00:10:54.399 --> 00:10:58.000 card with me. Listening to them reminded me of something 169 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:00.600 from my own past that I thought my in Trisia. 170 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:04.080 When I was a little girl in the nineteen fifties, 171 00:11:04.159 --> 00:11:06.559 we used to travel up from the city of Manchester 172 00:11:06.840 --> 00:11:09.879 to visit my grandmother, who lived in a small village 173 00:11:10.039 --> 00:11:13.440 near shap in Cumbria, and it was a long journey 174 00:11:13.480 --> 00:11:15.879 in those days, but I always look forward to it. 175 00:11:16.639 --> 00:11:20.159 The area was and still is incredibly remote and wild, 176 00:11:20.720 --> 00:11:23.879 and I remember the sense of isolation you felt there, 177 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:29.320 especially when she left the main road behind. My grandmother 178 00:11:29.320 --> 00:11:32.720 had a way of telling stories, half in jest, half 179 00:11:32.720 --> 00:11:36.519 in warning that had stayed with me after all those years. 180 00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:41.120 She used to speak of wild and feral people who 181 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:45.840 roamed the barren fells, especially in the more desolate parts 182 00:11:45.840 --> 00:11:49.639 of the Lake district, and according to her, they lived 183 00:11:49.639 --> 00:11:53.759 off the land, taking farmers, sheep and stealing the odd crop, 184 00:11:54.559 --> 00:11:58.320 avoiding all contact with villages, and was said to have 185 00:11:58.399 --> 00:12:02.440 been there for generations. My grandmother claimed that the local 186 00:12:02.480 --> 00:12:07.240 farmers and shepherds sometimes saw strange figures in the distance, 187 00:12:08.120 --> 00:12:13.480 or they would find signs of someone or something moving 188 00:12:13.679 --> 00:12:16.840 through the farm and off up into the hills at night. 189 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:21.840 As a child, those stories both terrified and fascinated me. 190 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:25.559 I can still picture her sitting by the fire with 191 00:12:25.600 --> 00:12:29.039 me and my brother. Whether they were old folk tales 192 00:12:29.120 --> 00:12:32.840 and local legends or something she truly believed, I'll never know, 193 00:12:33.679 --> 00:12:38.120 but they stayed with me ever since. Your podcast brought 194 00:12:38.159 --> 00:12:40.759 that all rushing back, and I thought i'd reach out 195 00:12:40.799 --> 00:12:44.080 and share it with you. Perhaps it's just another piece 196 00:12:44.120 --> 00:12:48.240 of old Cumbrian law, or perhaps there's something more to it. 197 00:12:49.000 --> 00:12:51.519 Either way, thank you for the work you do in 198 00:12:51.559 --> 00:12:57.320 gathering and preserving the strange and mysterious accounts. Now I 199 00:12:57.360 --> 00:13:00.399 say it often don't know, but it never yet told. 200 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:05.200 For me, it doesn't matter how many reports I take. 201 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:08.759 Each time a new one comes in, I still get 202 00:13:08.799 --> 00:13:12.360 the same excitement. And as I read through the account, 203 00:13:12.600 --> 00:13:16.600 my brain's clicking on patterns. So you know what season 204 00:13:16.639 --> 00:13:18.639 it was, what you know what the moon phase was 205 00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:21.159 at that time of the year. Are there any other 206 00:13:21.200 --> 00:13:23.960 reports in the area. Oh, I've heard a similar report 207 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:26.360 and work in that case from a different area. So 208 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:28.440 all these thoughts are going through my mind as I'm 209 00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:32.279 doing it. But there's just something about the idea of 210 00:13:32.440 --> 00:13:37.799 wild people. It really creeps me out. Maybe it's primal. 211 00:13:38.200 --> 00:13:40.840 You know. I once watched a documentary and it was 212 00:13:40.840 --> 00:13:44.559 on crows and it was absolutely fascinating, and I think 213 00:13:44.559 --> 00:13:47.039 it was done by some big universes like Harvard or 214 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:50.240 something like that in America. And one of the professors 215 00:13:50.279 --> 00:13:53.120 was put on a troglodyte mask, like an old so 216 00:13:53.159 --> 00:13:55.679 you looked like a caveman. Normal clothes, you know, out 217 00:13:55.679 --> 00:13:58.240 on the campus, but this mask. And when he wore 218 00:13:58.279 --> 00:14:02.879 the mask, these crows that had never seen a traveler 219 00:14:02.919 --> 00:14:06.000 die because remember, you know, clothes only for millions of 220 00:14:06.080 --> 00:14:10.039 years do that would instantly start to alarm. Well, that 221 00:14:10.159 --> 00:14:14.120 is a genetic memory, so they see that that shape 222 00:14:14.159 --> 00:14:18.080 of face, that style and description is a threat to 223 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:22.080 them as a whole. So once we were all wild people, 224 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:25.639 weren't we As I'm making this podcast today, I am 225 00:14:25.720 --> 00:14:28.960 literally staying in a very small shed in the middle 226 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:33.399 of nowhere with no electricity and no water and no 227 00:14:33.559 --> 00:14:37.279 Wi Fi. And it's absolutely wonderful. I'm actually up in 228 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:40.519 Penriff at the moment with Mark. When I thought while 229 00:14:40.519 --> 00:14:42.600 I was here, I'd do the audio and I could 230 00:14:42.759 --> 00:14:45.799 upload it when we get home cheaper in the field. 231 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:49.960 I put some photographs up for you on YouTube so 232 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:52.480 you can see it. Absolutely beautiful place. It's an old 233 00:14:52.519 --> 00:14:57.960 shepherd's hut. So yeah, so at night, when the dark comes, 234 00:14:58.159 --> 00:15:01.600 I would think of every single love report I've ever 235 00:15:01.679 --> 00:15:06.039 heard from around that area. And I'm sat central to 236 00:15:06.159 --> 00:15:09.559 a number of reports that kind of surround where I 237 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:13.360 am at the time. But it's applely Fair time. So 238 00:15:14.240 --> 00:15:16.879 me and Mike decided to take the week off and 239 00:15:16.919 --> 00:15:19.559 that's what we've done. It's been absolutely wonderful. But when 240 00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:22.840 you hear this on Saturday, I'll already be back. So 241 00:15:23.159 --> 00:15:26.360 in our next case, it's been shared with us by 242 00:15:26.360 --> 00:15:29.200 a lady and she's making me a report on behalf 243 00:15:29.240 --> 00:15:33.440 of a friend. Really, do you remember the old saying 244 00:15:33.840 --> 00:15:38.240 that all of us have enough life experiences to write 245 00:15:38.679 --> 00:15:42.000 at least one book, which I find to be true. 246 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:45.600 To be honest, so many people have unusual experiences, you know, 247 00:15:45.679 --> 00:15:49.320 or they know of someone who has recounting those tales 248 00:15:49.320 --> 00:15:54.039 his vical or they slipping to obscurity. And our witness said, 249 00:15:54.559 --> 00:15:57.120 thank you, you know, for saving these stories, because that's 250 00:15:57.120 --> 00:15:58.919 what I don't want to happen. I don't want those 251 00:15:58.919 --> 00:16:02.240 stories to just fail to obscurisa. I really think that 252 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:06.600 we should be sharing this information, you know, So I'm 253 00:16:06.720 --> 00:16:09.480 next witness. I'm going to give the pseudonym of kay 254 00:16:10.240 --> 00:16:13.759 as she wishes to remain anonymous, and that's absolutely fine 255 00:16:13.799 --> 00:16:18.279 with me, Kaye said. As I've said, I've always planned 256 00:16:18.279 --> 00:16:21.159 to write a book one day about my experiences, but 257 00:16:21.480 --> 00:16:24.279 one between one thing and another, you know, life got 258 00:16:24.279 --> 00:16:27.879 in the way. I never did get around to it. Firstly, 259 00:16:28.080 --> 00:16:32.120 this testimony is from nineteen ninety two ninety three, and 260 00:16:32.159 --> 00:16:34.919 it's not even mine. I've never even met the guy, 261 00:16:35.360 --> 00:16:37.639 but it had quite an effect on me at the time, 262 00:16:38.039 --> 00:16:41.399 and over the years. I've been having experiences since I 263 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:44.919 was a baby, well before I could walk off off, 264 00:16:45.399 --> 00:16:50.600 and I still vividly remember the frustration, crying hysterically because 265 00:16:50.639 --> 00:16:54.159 I couldn't let my parents know what had happened. So 266 00:16:54.279 --> 00:16:58.399 these stories will be quite taking to my other experiences. 267 00:16:58.639 --> 00:17:01.679 But since I've been listening to your YouTube channel, I've 268 00:17:01.720 --> 00:17:05.559 been feeling guilty about keeping all of this information to myself. 269 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:10.359 My story still seems to snowballer. And even though this 270 00:17:10.480 --> 00:17:16.039 weablef story isn't mine, I have had four black dog experiences, 271 00:17:16.240 --> 00:17:20.119 and at least one of them is definitely connected to 272 00:17:20.240 --> 00:17:24.880 this incident in my mind. Anyway, the other two black 273 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:28.880 dog experiences I now think we're in counters are black shock, 274 00:17:29.559 --> 00:17:31.720 and I've only come to realize this in the last 275 00:17:31.720 --> 00:17:36.559 few weeks or so, now I have the information at hand. Anyway, 276 00:17:36.759 --> 00:17:39.039 this is a werewolf dog man's story from a bloke 277 00:17:39.119 --> 00:17:43.039 I never met, many many years ago. Now, so back 278 00:17:43.039 --> 00:17:45.559 then I was about twenty years old. I should have 279 00:17:45.839 --> 00:17:47.759 written it all down in a diary and then I 280 00:17:47.759 --> 00:17:50.640 could have found it. The exact date, I was staying 281 00:17:50.640 --> 00:17:53.039 the night at a friend's house and at some point 282 00:17:53.119 --> 00:17:55.680 her mum had come home, and when she came in, 283 00:17:56.079 --> 00:17:58.039 she had such a look of shock on her face, 284 00:17:58.160 --> 00:18:01.519 and my friend and I were immediately. I thought she'd 285 00:18:01.519 --> 00:18:03.680 had a bump in the car, you know, while running 286 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:06.559 with her ex or something like that. But it wasn't 287 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:12.000 anything like that at all, but something farst scarrea. When 288 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:14.079 she told us what had happened and that her friend 289 00:18:14.079 --> 00:18:17.160 had seen a werewolf, me and my friend just collapsed. 290 00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:19.440 You know, we thought it was really funner. The more 291 00:18:19.519 --> 00:18:22.880 she tried to convince us the worst week, you know, 292 00:18:23.480 --> 00:18:26.119 In fact, she didn't try to convince us. She told 293 00:18:26.200 --> 00:18:29.480 us what he said and then just that quietly, and 294 00:18:29.559 --> 00:18:32.880 so we asked her another question. I've never seen her 295 00:18:32.920 --> 00:18:36.039 like this, and I think that's why I still remember 296 00:18:36.039 --> 00:18:39.720 it quite clearly. She'd known this guy for years and 297 00:18:39.759 --> 00:18:42.799 she trusted him. She said he would never make up 298 00:18:42.839 --> 00:18:46.160 something like this. She was completely freaked out by it. 299 00:18:46.920 --> 00:18:49.480 This guy said he had seen a werewolf across the 300 00:18:49.559 --> 00:18:53.720 road and then it had jumped onto the graveyard wall 301 00:18:54.400 --> 00:18:59.759 before disappearing. Well, of course, my first thought was that 302 00:18:59.839 --> 00:19:02.559 it was a bloke dressed up messing about, you know, 303 00:19:02.680 --> 00:19:06.200 jumping into the graveyard felt way too convenient for me. 304 00:19:07.200 --> 00:19:09.519 After much taking of the pace, and I asked, why 305 00:19:09.559 --> 00:19:12.000 did this blow believe me Tee the werewolf and not 306 00:19:12.079 --> 00:19:14.519 someone in the costume taking a shark of home from 307 00:19:14.519 --> 00:19:18.440 a fancy dress bat. She answered that there was no 308 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:23.160 way a human could have made that jump onto the wall, now, 309 00:19:23.279 --> 00:19:27.799 you know, no way. It was effortless unnatural, and to 310 00:19:27.839 --> 00:19:30.279 be honest, a few of my hair stood up when 311 00:19:30.279 --> 00:19:34.319 she said that. I'm no strangers to the supernatural. I've 312 00:19:34.319 --> 00:19:39.039 had lots of experiences myself, everything from my dreams coming true, 313 00:19:39.400 --> 00:19:44.160 premonitions and ghosts and aliens and more, But were wolves 314 00:19:44.200 --> 00:19:47.599 seemed too out there, even for me. My thoughts were 315 00:19:47.640 --> 00:19:51.279 at the time, if were wolves existed now, they must 316 00:19:51.279 --> 00:19:53.400 be hidden. You know, there must be a hidden entity. 317 00:19:54.119 --> 00:19:57.400 Otherwise who'd all know about them? You know they would 318 00:19:57.480 --> 00:20:01.279 try hard not to be seen. Surely, I felt if 319 00:20:01.279 --> 00:20:04.160 a werewolf had crossed this road, then he would have known, 320 00:20:04.720 --> 00:20:08.720 smelled sense to human watching him, or at least know 321 00:20:09.000 --> 00:20:12.079 that one was in the vicinity. He just didn't quite 322 00:20:12.119 --> 00:20:16.759 make sense. He seemed ridiculous. But there was a part 323 00:20:16.759 --> 00:20:20.960 of me that couldn't shake this off as a prank. 324 00:20:21.960 --> 00:20:25.359 I'd seen many unexplainable weird things, so why not this? 325 00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:30.240 Why would this guy tell people when he knows he 326 00:20:30.279 --> 00:20:33.599 will be mocked. He must have been a hundred percent 327 00:20:33.720 --> 00:20:39.119 certain at this point when our interject, once you accept 328 00:20:39.319 --> 00:20:43.000 the dog men or werewolves or bigfoot or any other 329 00:20:43.200 --> 00:20:48.279 entity is real, we've put that thought out there into 330 00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:52.680 the universe, and it can trigger, almost like a hitchhiker effect, 331 00:20:53.839 --> 00:20:59.440 a visitation, I said, preacher, and I believe that's what's 332 00:20:59.480 --> 00:21:02.319 happened to the witness in this case, because soon after 333 00:21:03.319 --> 00:21:07.400 maybe a week or two, maybe more, she said, I 334 00:21:07.480 --> 00:21:11.640 went to which is an old country manor estate owned 335 00:21:11.799 --> 00:21:14.480 now by the National Trust with a couple of friends. 336 00:21:14.920 --> 00:21:17.920 It was late, still lying, and the werewolf memories didn't 337 00:21:17.960 --> 00:21:21.519 even occur to me, so we were there. I honestly 338 00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:24.240 don't know if I just thought about it or if 339 00:21:24.240 --> 00:21:28.079 I talked about it. I just remember that while that 340 00:21:28.240 --> 00:21:31.440 was in my head, one of my friends asked, what 341 00:21:31.480 --> 00:21:35.440 the hell's that. I looked and way across the field 342 00:21:35.920 --> 00:21:40.519 there was a big black something. We couldn't figure it out. 343 00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:44.240 At first. We deduced it was a dog, but we've 344 00:21:44.279 --> 00:21:49.119 never seen one that large before. Someone said we should 345 00:21:49.200 --> 00:21:52.039 leave it. I remember saying that a dog that big 346 00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:55.559 would have to have an owner close by, and we 347 00:21:55.559 --> 00:21:57.519 should just wait a bit for them to come along. 348 00:21:58.440 --> 00:22:01.000 But it was far away, so there was no row. 349 00:22:01.119 --> 00:22:04.519 There was nothing to worry about. It was only much 350 00:22:04.599 --> 00:22:08.480 later I realized this sequence of events didn't make sense, 351 00:22:09.319 --> 00:22:13.559 because we stood in silence watching this dog walking towards us. 352 00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:18.400 It was for a few minutes, and we stood there frozen, 353 00:22:19.079 --> 00:22:24.839 not saying a word. The dog was walking slowly, very passively, 354 00:22:25.279 --> 00:22:28.119 with its head down, and it was making a beeline 355 00:22:28.119 --> 00:22:33.480 for us. In normal circumstances, I would have definitely walked 356 00:22:33.480 --> 00:22:37.119 slowly away. I was scared of big animals and knew 357 00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:40.240 how to act around him. But for some reason, we 358 00:22:40.400 --> 00:22:43.720 just stood there. It got to about ten foot in 359 00:22:43.759 --> 00:22:47.559 front of us and then stood on its hind legs 360 00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:52.440 and continue to walk towards us, and I swear it 361 00:22:52.519 --> 00:22:55.839 was making eye contact with me. The way thing was 362 00:22:56.240 --> 00:23:00.000 the way it moved onto its hind legs. It didn't 363 00:23:00.200 --> 00:23:04.039 seen like what a normal dog would do. You know, 364 00:23:04.359 --> 00:23:07.359 even though I've had no experience of a dog doing this, 365 00:23:07.920 --> 00:23:13.240 It just didn't bait. It was a slow move and 366 00:23:13.440 --> 00:23:17.920 there was no misstep. In fact, it was so natural 367 00:23:19.039 --> 00:23:23.279 it looked unnatural, if that makes sense. When it looked 368 00:23:23.279 --> 00:23:27.799 at me, I felt it telling me to run, and 369 00:23:27.839 --> 00:23:31.000 I shouted run, And boy did we run. Now there's 370 00:23:31.000 --> 00:23:34.200 no way normally I would run away from a dog, 371 00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:37.599 especially a dog in out size. It's the opposite of 372 00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:42.039 what you should do. The whole experience didn't make sense 373 00:23:42.319 --> 00:23:45.759 after I'd processed it. I don't remember anything after that. 374 00:23:46.559 --> 00:23:49.920 I don't remember looking back or anything. But I knew 375 00:23:50.240 --> 00:23:53.079 it was connected to that way wolf. I just knew 376 00:23:53.119 --> 00:23:57.599 it was. This experience made me believe, but I couldn't 377 00:23:57.599 --> 00:24:03.319 really tell you why. Many years later, I'm guessing was 378 00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:07.319 what made you know? I went into Waterstones, I saw 379 00:24:07.359 --> 00:24:11.200 a book on weird wrexm and a chapter about the 380 00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:14.839 w Rex and werewolves around. I must admit I was gutted. 381 00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:18.400 You know. It wasn't a modern sighting, but yeah, it 382 00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:22.640 added another layer to my thinking. And then years after 383 00:24:22.680 --> 00:24:25.559 that was when I became a late comer to the internet. 384 00:24:26.279 --> 00:24:30.920 I searched many things i'd experienced. I'd experienced many crazy things, 385 00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:33.400 so the werewolf and the black dogs were quite far 386 00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:37.480 down my list, you know. But when I did the research, 387 00:24:38.160 --> 00:24:41.599 I was gutted to find the black shock. I instantly 388 00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:44.559 knew that the dog I'd seen was not a devil dog. 389 00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:50.880 I think it'd been protective one hundred percent. Years later, 390 00:24:51.200 --> 00:24:54.119 I came across your YouTube channel and there was one 391 00:24:54.279 --> 00:24:58.240 episode when you were talking about werewolves being connected to graveyards, 392 00:24:58.720 --> 00:25:02.200 waterways and like angel Land. I can't quite remember which 393 00:25:02.200 --> 00:25:05.599 one it was, but in that moment I thought, yes, 394 00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:09.200 it was Maybe a couple of years after that when 395 00:25:09.240 --> 00:25:13.359 something triggered me. I found my friend whose mum informed us, 396 00:25:13.440 --> 00:25:16.519 you know the way wolf Follo those years ago. I 397 00:25:16.559 --> 00:25:18.480 want you to talk to the man who'd seen it. 398 00:25:18.920 --> 00:25:21.119 She asked a mum, But we found out that he died. 399 00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:26.160 I have more information that I found out about the 400 00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:29.680 land or snowballs, but I feel if I don't send 401 00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:35.359