Speaker 1: All right, hello everyone. So my apologies for the late start.
Speaker 2: We unfortunately had a massive distributed denial of service attack
Speaker 2: against our servers and saturated all of our all of
Speaker 2: our data lines, like basically hundreds of gigabits of of
Speaker 2: data were saturated. We've we think we've overcome most of that,
Speaker 2: and so it's not time to proceed. But as as this,
Speaker 2: this massive attack illustrates, there's a lot of opposition to
Speaker 2: people just hearing what President Trump has to say, and
Speaker 2: so but I'm honored to have this conversation. I had
Speaker 2: want emphasize it's a it's a conversation, and it's really
Speaker 2: intended to just get get a feel for what Donald
Speaker 2: Trump is just like in a conversation. So it's hard
Speaker 2: to catch a vibe about someone if you just don't
Speaker 2: hear them talk in a normal way. And when you know,
Speaker 2: when there's when there's an adversarial interview, like no one's
Speaker 2: themselves in adversarial interview. So for and this is really
Speaker 2: aimed at kind of open minded independent voters who they're
Speaker 2: just trying to make up their mind, and so you
Speaker 2: can understand, like what what is you know, what is
Speaker 2: it just like to have a conversation, so uh, honor
Speaker 2: to Donald, great to uh to speak. We had a
Speaker 2: great conversation yesterday. As you mentioned yesterday, if we could
Speaker 2: just record that conversation and posted, it would have been excellent.
Speaker 2: And I hope we can have something like that today.
Speaker 3: Well I think we will. I'm pretty sure we will.
Speaker 3: And congratulations because I see you broke every record in
Speaker 3: the book with so many millions of people, and that's
Speaker 3: an honor. We view that as an honor. And then
Speaker 3: you do want silencing of certain voices. Usually those are
Speaker 3: voices that have something to say that are constructive, oftentimes constructive,
Speaker 3: and so we have to consider it an honor. But
Speaker 3: congratulations and breaking every record in the book tonight, that's great.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you. Well, maybe we could start off with,
Speaker 2: I mean, the assassination attempt, which.
Speaker 1: Was an incredible thing.
Speaker 2: And I have to say that, you know your actions
Speaker 2: at that mess that that assasination attempt were inspiring. You know,
Speaker 2: you instead of shying away from things, instead of ducking down,
Speaker 2: you were pomping your fists in there and saying fight, fight, fight,
Speaker 2: And I think that's I mean, you know, the president
Speaker 2: of the United States represents America and I think that
Speaker 2: is that is America, that that is strength under fire,
Speaker 2: and so that's you know, a big you know. Part
Speaker 2: of the reason why I was excited to endorse you
Speaker 2: as the President United States for having enough term here
Speaker 2: is that was that was just incredibly inspiring.
Speaker 1: But I mean, what was it like for you?
Speaker 3: Not pleasant?
Speaker 1: To be pleasant?
Speaker 3: I said it was. I didn't know. I didn't know
Speaker 3: I had that much blood. The doctors later told me
Speaker 3: that the ear is a place that is a very
Speaker 3: bloody place if you're going to get hit. But in
Speaker 3: this case, it was probably the best alternative you could
Speaker 3: even think about because it went at the right angle,
Speaker 3: and uh, you know it it was a hard hit.
Speaker 3: It was very I guess you would say surreal, but
Speaker 3: it wasn't surreal, you know. I was telling somebody, you
Speaker 3: have instances like this or like a lot less than this,
Speaker 3: where you feel it's a surreal situation, and I never
Speaker 3: felt that way. I do immediately that it was a bullet.
Speaker 3: I knew a media that it was at the ear. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and because it you know, it hit very hard, but
Speaker 3: hit the ear. And I also heard people shout bullets, bullets,
Speaker 3: you know, get down, get down, because I you know,
Speaker 3: I moved down pretty nicely, pretty quickly, and we had
Speaker 3: bullets flying right over my head after I went down,
Speaker 3: So I'm glad I went down. The bigger miracle was
Speaker 3: that I was looking in the exact direction of the
Speaker 3: shooter and so it hit It hit me at an
Speaker 3: angle that was far less destructive than any other angle.
Speaker 3: So that was the miracle that was for those people
Speaker 3: that don't believe in God. I think we got to
Speaker 3: all start thinking about that. You have to, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm a believer. Now I'm more of a believer,
Speaker 3: I think. And a lot of people have said that
Speaker 3: to be a lot of great people have said that
Speaker 3: to me. Actually, but it was. It was amazing that
Speaker 3: I happened to be turned just at that perfect angle,
Speaker 3: and all because I put down a chart on immigration
Speaker 3: that showed that the numbers were so great. I love
Speaker 3: that chart.
Speaker 1: Even maybe it's a sign. Maybe that's a sign.
Speaker 3: An immigration sign.
Speaker 2: You highlighted a serious issue at that moment.
Speaker 1: You know your hear, but but you know your head.
Speaker 3: I mean, well, the amazing thing is that, uh the sign.
Speaker 3: I said, bring down that sign and immigration and it
Speaker 3: was literally about an eighth of a second where it
Speaker 3: would be good, and and after that it was going
Speaker 3: to be a disaster no matter which which way you
Speaker 3: were facing. But it just had that that perfect angle
Speaker 3: which was exactly at this shooter. Very sad situation, such
Speaker 3: a sad situation. As you know, we lost somebody that
Speaker 3: was great, Corey who a firefighter, a great gentleman, a great,
Speaker 3: a great trumper, he was a just a fantastic family
Speaker 3: and a fantastic man. And a friend of mine came
Speaker 3: up Elon and said, I'd like to give the family
Speaker 3: some kind of help and I said that's great. He said,
Speaker 3: do you mind. I said, I don't mind at all,
Speaker 3: and he wrote out a check for a million dollars
Speaker 3: gave it to the wife, and you know, she said,
Speaker 3: this is really nice, but I'd rather have my husband back,
Speaker 3: which is a nice thing for somebody to say. To
Speaker 3: be honest, she's great. The family is great, and we
Speaker 3: raised a lot of money for them and for two
Speaker 3: other gentlemen. Are unbelievable people. Also, they were hit really badly.
Speaker 3: They thought they were not going to make it, and
Speaker 3: they did. The doctors in the Butler area, I tell
Speaker 3: you they were incredible. They saved the two and they
Speaker 3: were really hit tough, both of them equally, and we thought.
Speaker 3: My first question was because I heard bullets flying over me,
Speaker 3: and I said, how many people were killed? Because we
Speaker 3: had a massive crowd there a tremendous thousands and thousands
Speaker 3: of people and there was no land, I mean, it
Speaker 3: was just it was all people. So I said, how
Speaker 3: many people had been killed? Because I knew there were
Speaker 3: other shots being fired? Sure, And they said, we don't
Speaker 3: know yet, but some people have been badly hurt. And
Speaker 3: I have to give the a secret service sniper they
Speaker 3: call him or sharp shooter, but sniper because he didn't
Speaker 3: know there was a problem. He's been he's an extraordinary shot, obviously,
Speaker 3: and he didn't know there was a problem, and he
Speaker 3: was able to pick it all out within five seconds,
Speaker 3: and he used one bullet from very far away. I
Speaker 3: guess probably about four hundred yards. The shooter was one thirty,
Speaker 3: but he was on the he was on the opposite
Speaker 3: side of the field and the podium, and he saw
Speaker 3: the smoke and the flame from the gun, immediately recognized
Speaker 3: it and immediately took a shot. And it was one
Speaker 3: perfect shot from very far away. And if he if
Speaker 3: he didn't do that elon he would have. I mean,
Speaker 3: if he would have a lot of people, a lot
Speaker 3: more people have been could have been badly hurt and killed.
Speaker 3: So I have to take my hat off to him
Speaker 3: because that's also a surreal You know, we've been with
Speaker 3: them for twenty three years and he's never had anything
Speaker 3: like this, and all of a sudden he has to act,
Speaker 3: and it's a very tough thing to act and to
Speaker 3: be shooting somebody. But he saw the he saw the gun,
Speaker 3: saw the smoke, saw the flame from the gun very
Speaker 3: far away. I obviously has very good ice, he's got
Speaker 3: very good vision, which I assume you have to have
Speaker 3: in that particular work. But he, uh, he took him
Speaker 3: very quickly, and it was they say it was approximately
Speaker 3: five seconds from long range one bullet. If that didn't happen,
Speaker 3: because the shooter had a lot of bullets, he had
Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of cartridges up there with him.
Speaker 2: So well, I mean I mean that that that that's
Speaker 2: clearly uh you know, you know he was he was
Speaker 2: very competent in taking that shot to stop the assassin,
Speaker 2: the attempt at assassination. But but I mean, that does
Speaker 2: seem to be I mean some pretty significant failings elsewhere
Speaker 2: in the system, Like there's just no way that, Like,
Speaker 2: how on Earth is a shooter gun on a roof
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty yards away?
Speaker 1: That seems crazy.
Speaker 2: I think most people like what people are wondering, how
Speaker 2: that earth could such a thing happen?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I view it as two ways. There
Speaker 3: should have been nobody in the roof. There were people
Speaker 3: because there were so many tens of thousands of people there.
Speaker 3: There were people that were seeing him. And there was
Speaker 3: one woman with a red shirt and uh and she's
Speaker 3: screaming that guy's got a gun. You know you saw it.
Speaker 3: Probably there's a guy atle Bit with a gun.
Speaker 2: It's like, I'm just I'm just I guess, I mean
Speaker 2: find for my part, and I think probably many members
Speaker 2: of the public all wondering how the heck are you know,
Speaker 2: basically people wondering by it pointing out there's a guy.
Speaker 1: On the roof with a gun. Yeah, and there see it.
Speaker 2: But somehow that's it's not being addressed that that does
Speaker 2: seem crazy.
Speaker 3: Well, they're going to learn from this communication between the
Speaker 3: local police who sort of had an idea, and then
Speaker 3: ultimately a man lifted himself up to the roof, could
Speaker 3: barely do it because you know, he was pulling himself
Speaker 3: up and he saw the man with the gun. The
Speaker 3: man with the gun pointed the gun at him. He
Speaker 3: thought he was probably gonna get shot. But you know,
Speaker 3: he's like pulling himself up and because of that, he
Speaker 3: couldn't get to his gun. And he fell down, actually
Speaker 3: very badly. Hurt his leg, his ankle. I hear very badly.
Speaker 3: But he fell down and he did, you know, from
Speaker 3: what I understand, he did say there's a guy up
Speaker 3: there with a gun. And the shooting started very quickly
Speaker 3: after that. I think it forced the shooter to go
Speaker 3: maybe quicker. You know, he was supposed to be a
Speaker 3: very good shot. Yeah, my son's Don and Eric. They
Speaker 3: can't believe what happened. But they said from one hundred
Speaker 3: and thirty yards a bad shot without that target. Almost
Speaker 3: every time they said, it's like in golf, thinking the
Speaker 3: two foot put.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not at it's not a tough shot, it's not.
Speaker 3: It's not a long shot. The Secret Service person had
Speaker 3: the long shot. He had a you know, triple the
Speaker 3: distance actually, so you know, it was a terrible thing.
Speaker 3: Look Uh, it's hard. I have to say this about
Speaker 3: the Secret Service. When I went down, and you know
Speaker 3: I went down based on I think they're screaming, but
Speaker 3: other people also because people saw this happen. You know,
Speaker 3: you had so many people. One of the miracles was
Speaker 3: that nobody ran. I mean, if a gun goes off,
Speaker 3: the crowd control people showed us this. When guns go off,
Speaker 3: and it does happen in stadiums and a soccer match
Speaker 3: or some kind of a match, everybody flees. They call
Speaker 3: it a stampede like cattle, but everybody and a lot
Speaker 3: of people get killed with those stampedes. We had more
Speaker 3: people than you'd have it, you know, some of these
Speaker 3: matches or these games, and nobody left. You know, you
Speaker 3: had a small group behind us in the grandstand and
Speaker 3: that was full, and you look at it as it
Speaker 3: was taking place, and normally they'd be running. They didn't leave.
Speaker 3: They saw that I was hurt, They saw a lot
Speaker 3: of blood, and they saw that I went down, and
Speaker 3: it's almost like they wanted to be with me. Well,
Speaker 3: out front, you had thousands, tens of thousands of people
Speaker 3: as far as the eye could see. You had people
Speaker 3: in butler as far as the eye could see, and
Speaker 3: and a lot of press too. There was you know,
Speaker 3: many cameras on watching this. It's what makes it so
Speaker 3: different because normally things happen that aren't good, but you
Speaker 3: never have a picture of here. We have all these
Speaker 3: cameras shooting it, so you know, it's sort of amazing.
Speaker 3: But one of the interesting things was that you didn't
Speaker 3: have anybody flee, you didn't have anybody stampede nobody. And
Speaker 3: there were some people behind me. They stood up and
Speaker 3: they're looking like, you know, I mean, I say, you
Speaker 3: want to have you want to have them in a
Speaker 3: fox hall with you. I want to meet some of
Speaker 3: those people, because it's so different from what you heard.
Speaker 3: But so so I was down, but the Secret Service
Speaker 3: guys there were bullets flying right over my head. You
Speaker 3: could hear him go whizzing. And and these guys came
Speaker 3: jumping on top of me and a young lady Kate,
Speaker 3: uh would jump. They moved so fast. And let me
Speaker 3: tell you that took tremendous courage. Now there was a
Speaker 3: lack of coordination. Uh, there was you know, obviously everybody
Speaker 3: understands that somebody that that building should have been covered.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean it was a big thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, looking at the araw of views, that building
Speaker 2: would be like the number one spot for a sniper.
Speaker 2: I mean it's like it's like that if you would
Speaker 2: have picked, like what is the favorite if you so,
Speaker 2: if the goals assassinate, what's your favorite spot, that building,
Speaker 2: that building would be number one.
Speaker 3: That would have been the spot.
Speaker 1: It's like you you can ask for It's like that
Speaker 1: would have.
Speaker 3: Been this spot. You know what people think is when
Speaker 3: the local policeman, who by the way, was you know,
Speaker 3: he really uh, he did what he was supposed to do.
Speaker 3: He couldn't hold on any longer. And then when he
Speaker 3: got his head just peeking above this guy standing there
Speaker 3: with a gun at his head and when he fell
Speaker 3: down again hurt his ankle very badly. But he was
Speaker 3: making the calls. But what happened is the firing took
Speaker 3: place very soon. So what they think is that this
Speaker 3: guy ran to his site, which he had all planned
Speaker 3: out with the gun. Uh, he ran to the site
Speaker 3: and he started shooting fast, and maybe that's why he uh,
Speaker 3: well he sort of missed. I mean, you know, he
Speaker 3: got it, but it would have been it could have
Speaker 3: been could have been a much bigger problem.
Speaker 2: But he totally would have hit if if you hadn't
Speaker 2: turned your head, so like, you know, there was it
Speaker 2: was a very near thing.
Speaker 3: It was a miracle. If I hadn't turned my head,
Speaker 3: I would not be talking to you right now, as
Speaker 3: much as I like you.
Speaker 1: Exactly, I would not.
Speaker 3: I would from another Yeah, that's right, we'd be talking
Speaker 3: from a different place. But it was it was a
Speaker 3: you know, it was a very terrible experience. The Butler Hospital.
Speaker 3: They did such a great job. The doctors were so good,
Speaker 3: everybody was so good. There was there was a mistake
Speaker 3: if somebody knew because people were hearing that, you know,
Speaker 3: there was just a bad feeling that there was somebody
Speaker 3: was around. You know that story Now it's been really
Speaker 3: and if somebody could have said, because they've oftentimes said,
Speaker 3: you know, like there'd be a lightning storm or something,
Speaker 3: because I've done I think over three hundred I think
Speaker 3: I did a lot more of that, but we did
Speaker 3: a lot and oftentimes they'll say, sir, could you wait
Speaker 3: ten minutes please, sir? Could you wait twenty minutes? As
Speaker 3: a storm overhead or lightning or something, right, And that
Speaker 3: happens often and this would have been a perfect time
Speaker 3: for that to have happened, but it didn't. It didn't
Speaker 3: get coordinated. That was the problem.
Speaker 2: Well, it was your I think your actions in the
Speaker 2: in the heat of a fire in you know, like
Speaker 2: what I find honorable there was that you can't fake
Speaker 2: bravery under such circumstance as the courage is instinctual or
Speaker 2: it is not.
Speaker 1: It's not a rehearst action.
Speaker 2: And so I just want to say that I think
Speaker 2: a lot of people admire your your your carriage under
Speaker 2: fire there and yeah, so thank you very much.
Speaker 3: I appreciate it. I didn't I don't think I didn't
Speaker 3: think of it. I just wanted to get up and
Speaker 3: I want to stand up. I want to let people know,
Speaker 3: you know, I felt I was good when when they
Speaker 3: were on top of me, covering me, actually very much
Speaker 3: covering me and very bravely. But I wanted to get up.
Speaker 3: I said, I want to get up, and they wanted,
Speaker 3: you know, they had they have everything there. They they
Speaker 3: wanted stretcher. I didn't like the stretcher. And I knew
Speaker 3: I was hit in the ear, but I knew I
Speaker 3: wasn't hit anywhere else. They felt I was hit someplace
Speaker 3: because it was such a lot of blood, and they
Speaker 3: were sure that I was hit someplace else and they
Speaker 3: were saying, sir, you you were hitting more than the aar.
Speaker 3: I said, nope, I was hit in the air. I
Speaker 3: want to get up. Let me get up. And so
Speaker 3: I got up, and the crowd didn't know what to think.
Speaker 3: I mean, this was so so many people, and they did.
Speaker 3: You could see they were confused. They didn't know what
Speaker 3: to think. And I wanted to let them know I
Speaker 3: was okay. It was very important for me to let
Speaker 3: them know that. And they went wild. You you've seen
Speaker 3: the after. They didn't go wild when I got up
Speaker 3: because they didn't know was I alive. You really couldn't tell.
Speaker 3: When I stood up, before the hand, before the you know,
Speaker 3: the fist in the air, they didn't know if I
Speaker 3: was alive. Nobody did. And when I put the fist up,
Speaker 3: they were. They were just relieved and happy and thrilled,
Speaker 3: and the place went crazy. It was pretty amazing. It was.
Speaker 3: It was a terrible thing, but.
Speaker 1: It was well.
Speaker 2: And I mean, speaking of the the the sort of
Speaker 2: slide that got you to turn that saved your life
Speaker 2: really was the legal immigris slide. Maybe maybe we're talking
Speaker 2: about about that.
Speaker 3: It was it was that now the illegal immigration saved
Speaker 3: my life. You're right, but it had to be at
Speaker 3: an exact angle.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's a great one save you know.
Speaker 3: The the incredible thing though, when you talk about the odds,
Speaker 3: you had to be exactly at that angle. But but
Speaker 3: the incredible thing is that the chart. I used it
Speaker 3: less than twenty percent of the time. It was just
Speaker 3: a moment. It's always on my left, never my right,
Speaker 3: and it's always at the end of the speech. So
Speaker 3: here we have it. It's on the right, not the left.
Speaker 3: It's at the beginning, not the end. And even the
Speaker 3: people that put it up, they were unprepared and they
Speaker 3: did a great job. They got it up immediately, fortunately.
Speaker 3: But I looked to the right and and the bullet,
Speaker 3: and the bullet came whizzing by, hitting my ear. So
Speaker 3: it was amazing. But when you think of the odds
Speaker 3: of that, and you know that that normally you wouldn't
Speaker 3: use it. Normally I wouldn't have the thing, and then
Speaker 3: you know it would have been a very different story.
Speaker 3: It's it's very much, I say, an act of God.
Speaker 3: It's a miracle that it happened, and I'm honored by it.
Speaker 3: I'm honored by it.
Speaker 2: Well, well, what what what what what?
Speaker 1: What were what were you.
Speaker 2: About to say about illegal immigration before you were rudely interrupted.
Speaker 3: Well, I was going to say how good the numbers were.
Speaker 3: By the way, we're going back to Butler and we're
Speaker 3: going to go back in October. We're all set up
Speaker 3: and we're the people are fantastic in Butler. It's a
Speaker 3: big it's a great area. Great, these are incredible people
Speaker 3: like the three that in the case of Corey killed
Speaker 3: and the other two, the the families are. I get
Speaker 3: to know him a little bit, and the families are great.
Speaker 3: But we're going back to Butler, and uh, I think
Speaker 3: I'll probably start by saying as I was saying, being
Speaker 3: so horribly.
Speaker 1: Interrupted, but yeah, so really interrupted by it.
Speaker 3: Yes, but the chart elon. The chart was just a
Speaker 3: chart that in my last week we had the best
Speaker 3: illegal immigration numbers, meaning stopping. It was at the lowest
Speaker 3: you've seen the chart. It's become quite a famous art,
Speaker 3: but that was the lowest point ever recorded. It was
Speaker 3: a really I mean, I was very proud of those numbers.
Speaker 3: And then you see what happened with these people, Uh,
Speaker 3: Kamala and Joe, you see what happened. They just let
Speaker 3: it go. I had remain in Mexico policies. I had
Speaker 3: all these different policies that were so good. Uh, guys
Speaker 3: like Tom Hollman and Brandon Judd from Border Patrol. All
Speaker 3: these are all people that they've been on television. It
Speaker 3: says the best numbers we've ever had. We had so
Speaker 3: many different jacks, catch and release in Mexico, not the
Speaker 3: United We had catch and release in the United States.
Speaker 3: We had it in Mexico. We had so many things.
Speaker 3: We had things where if people many people come in there,
Speaker 3: they have contagious diseases, we had everything passed. If you
Speaker 3: have a contagious these I'm sorry, but we can we
Speaker 3: cannot allow you into the country. So we were setting
Speaker 3: literally records, and uh, all I was doing is showing that.
Speaker 3: And I use it sometimes and in this case, I'm
Speaker 3: glad I used it. I can tell you that. But
Speaker 3: but there were fantastic numbers. But I'm going to sleep
Speaker 3: with that yard always. I'm gonna I'll be sleeping with
Speaker 3: that chart. That chart was was very important, very important
Speaker 3: for a lot of reasons.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I mean, would it be accurate to
Speaker 2: would it be accurate to say that you're supportive of
Speaker 2: legal immigration but that but we obviously need to shut
Speaker 2: down illegal immigration, uh, and especially unvetted illegal immigration, because
Speaker 2: you you know, and and that's that's not the same
Speaker 2: as saying that everyone who's a llegal immigrant is bad.
Speaker 2: In fact, I think most people who are illegal immigrants
Speaker 2: are actually good. But but you can't tell difference unless
Speaker 2: there's a solid betting of who comes across the border.
Speaker 1: That is that position.
Speaker 3: I say it very simply. They have to come in legally.
Speaker 3: They have to be checked because look, Kamala was the
Speaker 3: borders are now she's denying it everything that I do.
Speaker 3: She's saying she was strong on the border. We're going
Speaker 3: to be strong. Well, she doesn't have to say it.
Speaker 3: She could close it up right now. They could, They
Speaker 3: could do things right now. It's horrible. Uh, no tax
Speaker 3: on tips, and all of a sudden she's making the
Speaker 3: speeches and there will be no tax on tips. I
Speaker 3: said that months ago. And by the way, they had
Speaker 3: just the opposite. You know, they had not only tax
Speaker 3: on tips, but they hired eighty eight thousand irs agents
Speaker 3: and many of them were assigned to go get waitresses
Speaker 3: and caddies and all of this on tips. They have
Speaker 3: a policy, they had a policy. They were really going
Speaker 3: to go after you, and we're really harassing people horribly.
Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, for politics, she says,
Speaker 3: you know, she comes out with with what I said,
Speaker 3: which I think is terrible, and I think it's also
Speaker 3: hitting them very hard. These people are fake. Now they're
Speaker 3: also saying they did a good job in the border.
Speaker 3: We had the worst numbers in the history of the world,
Speaker 3: not of our country. There's never been a country in
Speaker 3: history that has had a catastrophe like this we've had.
Speaker 3: I believe, and I think you believe this too. You know,
Speaker 3: you hear twelve million, thirty I believe it's over twenty million.
Speaker 3: People came into our country, many coming from jails, from prisons,
Speaker 3: from mental institutions or a bigger version of that is
Speaker 3: insane asylums, and many are terrorists. And I'll tell you what,
Speaker 3: They're coming not just from South America. They're coming from Africa.
Speaker 3: They're coming from all over the world. They're coming from Asia,
Speaker 3: they're coming from the Middle East, They're coming from countries
Speaker 3: that are stupidly and horribly bombing Israel October seventh. They're
Speaker 3: coming from all over the world, and you know, you
Speaker 3: look at it's so sad October seventh because it should
Speaker 3: have never happened. When you look at Ukraine, it should
Speaker 3: have never happened. We have a defective government. These are
Speaker 3: defective people, and they're not people that should be running it.
Speaker 3: But where you see it the best is the border,
Speaker 3: because you had you have millions of people coming in
Speaker 3: a month. And then she gets up and she tries
Speaker 3: to pretend like she's going to do something. She had
Speaker 3: three and a half years and by the way, they
Speaker 3: have another five months that they can do something, but
Speaker 3: they won't do anything. It's all talk. She's incompetent and
Speaker 3: he's incompetent. And frankly, I think that she's more incompetent
Speaker 3: than he is. And that's saying something because he's not
Speaker 3: too good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think it's it is essential to have
Speaker 2: a secure border. I mean, you're really not a country
Speaker 2: unless you're in a secure border and secure elections, absolutely
Speaker 2: secure elections, and so it's just essential to have a
Speaker 2: real border or or we can't function as a country
Speaker 2: and our services you know, arecial services are being overwhelmed
Speaker 2: in a lot of cities.
Speaker 1: And uh.
Speaker 2: And but I as so as we were talking about earlier,
Speaker 2: I think having illegal immigration process that is smooth and
Speaker 2: efficient and done well. And you know, I'm speaking as
Speaker 2: someone who is illegal immigrant, and.
Speaker 1: I think that that.
Speaker 2: I mean, like, one way to think of it is
Speaker 2: who do you want on your team? You know, who, like,
Speaker 2: who do you want on team America? And and I
Speaker 2: think we want to just say, okay, we we want
Speaker 2: to let in people who are gonna, you know, be
Speaker 2: great contributors to our society and to our economy, and
Speaker 2: you know, and who do you want on the team?
Speaker 1: And it's and it's not to say that like in
Speaker 1: my opinion, actually i'd say.
Speaker 2: Like probably most of the illegal immigrants actually are are
Speaker 2: are actually good hardworking people, that's my opinion.
Speaker 1: But some are not.
Speaker 2: And uh, and you just have this sort of adverse
Speaker 2: selection process where you know, if if somebody's uh, you know,
Speaker 2: if somebody is like a you know, it has a
Speaker 2: career in in theft or robbery, I don't understand what's
Speaker 2: taken them so long to get here Because we're such
Speaker 2: a target rich environment. I mean, you know, why don't
Speaker 2: they Why don't more people who have a career in
Speaker 2: you know, bad things coming here sooner? Because it's I mean,
Speaker 2: it's a piece of cake to go rob you know,
Speaker 2: hous in La or New York compared to other parts
Speaker 2: of the world, and and and and in a lot
Speaker 2: of places in America. If if you try to stop
Speaker 2: the person who's robbing you, you'll be arrested.
Speaker 3: So it's right, I mean, what's what's happening with crime?
Speaker 3: And our police are so good, but they're not allowed
Speaker 3: to do their job. But I have to tell you,
Speaker 3: you know, I hate to say because it's such a
Speaker 3: downer to say it. I hate to say it. I
Speaker 3: hate it, but you have a lot of people that
Speaker 3: just shouldn't be I think it's a much bigger number
Speaker 3: than you think. They're allowing. Again, they're allowing people from
Speaker 3: their jails. And if you were running one of these
Speaker 3: countries where they're coming from, you would have had all
Speaker 3: of them. As an example of Venezuela, their crime is
Speaker 3: down seventy two percent. They're taking their drug dealers, they're
Speaker 3: taking frankly, their prisoners, they're emptying out their prisons, they're
Speaker 3: taking their criminals, their murderers, their rapists, and they're.
Speaker 1: Delivering them into the That's what Castro.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well he did on a much smaller scale. You know,
Speaker 3: it was a much smaller scale. But this is a
Speaker 3: massive scale because this is being done worldwide. But here's
Speaker 3: what's happening. Crime all over the world is down, and
Speaker 3: way do you see the numbers that we have. You know,
Speaker 3: this is migrant crime. This is crime that that's going
Speaker 3: to be And I saw it today in New York
Speaker 3: where somebody was knifed where they raped the girlfriend of
Speaker 3: a man that stood there watching in New York and
Speaker 3: one of the shelters and started pulling out the knives.
Speaker 3: And bad things happen today, but this is happening every day.
Speaker 3: These are rough people. These are people that are in
Speaker 3: jail for murder and all sorts of things, and they're
Speaker 3: releasing them into our country and they're telling them if
Speaker 3: you come back, we're gonna kill you. We're gonna give
Speaker 3: you the death penalty or kill you. So they don't
Speaker 3: want to come back. But these are rough people. These
Speaker 3: are criminals that make our criminals look like nice people.
Speaker 3: And it's horrible what they're doing. And she's in charge
Speaker 3: of it, because you know, now she's trying to say
Speaker 3: she had nothing to do with it, and she's such
Speaker 3: a liar because she was called the borders are the
Speaker 3: first day and it was on the headlines of every newspaper.
Speaker 3: She's the borders are and she never even went there.
Speaker 3: She went to one location which had nothing to do
Speaker 3: with where the problem is. You know, she went in
Speaker 3: and out, I guess because she was getting a lot
Speaker 3: of pressure but had nothing to do with the problem was.
Speaker 3: But she was the borders are, and you people can't
Speaker 3: allow them to get away with their disinformation campaign. Now
Speaker 3: she's trying to say that she wasn't she wasn't really involved,
Speaker 3: and the whole thing is horrible. She was totally in charge.
Speaker 3: She could have shut the border down without him. He
Speaker 3: didn't know what he was doing anyways, He wouldn't have
Speaker 3: even known what happened. You could shut the border down.
Speaker 3: He wouldn't even know the difference. But the fact is
Speaker 3: that she was borders are. But if you don't have
Speaker 3: to call her that, the fact is you could just
Speaker 3: call her she was in charge of the border and
Speaker 3: the border was the worst ever.
Speaker 2: It's simply not working. But whether it's by whether it's
Speaker 2: by whether it's a question of intention or competence. Either way,
Speaker 2: we don't have a secure border and we have people
Speaker 2: streaming over like it looks like World War Z zombie
Speaker 2: Apocalypse at times, and you know, sometimes you got to
Speaker 2: sort of wonder like is it real or not? So
Speaker 2: I you know, because you see things like is it real?
Speaker 2: I saw I went to the border at Eagle Pass
Speaker 2: and I saw for myself in Texas and I was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: it's real. I'm like seeing this in real time. I
Speaker 2: actually posted the video like just live. I just I
Speaker 2: just flew there one day and just to see, hey,
Speaker 2: is this is this? Is this made up or real?
Speaker 2: And I'm just seeing people stream across the border, and
Speaker 2: and I have to say, you know, at least the
Speaker 2: people that I saw did not look friendly. You know,
Speaker 2: these these are the people people to look at my
Speaker 2: video and say, hey, you know, these people look friendly.
Speaker 1: I don't look super friendly.
Speaker 3: So these are people that Elon would not be the
Speaker 3: same man if he had a walk across the street
Speaker 3: and look at these people in the eye. These are
Speaker 3: rough people. These are really rough people coming across. And
Speaker 3: I know rough people, and these are people that we
Speaker 3: don't want in our country. And you know, the caravans
Speaker 3: are coming in and they're putting and who's doing this?
Speaker 3: As the heads of the countries, and you would be
Speaker 3: doing it, and so would I and everyone say, oh,
Speaker 3: what a terrible thing to say. The fact is it's
Speaker 3: brilliant for them because they're taking all of their bad people,
Speaker 3: really bad people. And I hate to say this, the
Speaker 3: reason the numbers are much bigger than you would think
Speaker 3: is they're also taking their non productive peace people. Now
Speaker 3: these aren't people that will kill you, we have enough
Speaker 3: of them. But these are people that are non productive.
Speaker 3: They are just non productive. I mean, for whatever reason,
Speaker 3: they're not workers, or they don't want to work or whatever.
Speaker 3: And these countries are getting rid of non productive people
Speaker 3: in the caravans in many cases, and they're also getting
Speaker 3: rid of their murderers and their drug dealers and the
Speaker 3: people that are really brutal people. And they're coming into
Speaker 3: our country levels that have never been seen before. And
Speaker 3: I saw an ad just before I got on the air.
Speaker 3: I'm walking over here and I saw an ad by
Speaker 3: Kamala saying how she is going to provide border security.
Speaker 3: Where's you been for three and a half years, for
Speaker 3: three and a half years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, it's a terrible Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think this frankly, I think this is a fundamental
Speaker 2: existential issue for the United States. And if we have
Speaker 2: another four more years of open borders and it's going
Speaker 2: to be even worth with another for more years, it's
Speaker 2: gonna be even worse than it's been for the PASTU
Speaker 2: you know, three and a half years, I'm not sure
Speaker 2: we've got a country.
Speaker 3: You don't have a country level elon. If they get in,
Speaker 3: you will have fifty to sixty million people from all
Speaker 3: over the world, not South America only. You know, we
Speaker 3: think of South America. We think of Honduras and El Salvador,
Speaker 3: Guatemala and Mexico, you know, the four. But it's not that,
Speaker 3: it's everywhere. They're coming in from everywhere. And I had
Speaker 3: to say, and I.
Speaker 1: Think this is a this is a super important point.
Speaker 2: Like people, It's like basically when I went down there,
Speaker 2: I was like, well, where are people from. It's like
Speaker 2: it's like almost no one was from Mexico now Mexico less.
Speaker 2: It's just the border. It's just the border with Mexico.
Speaker 2: But the people come in. It's it's it's Earth. The
Speaker 2: rest of Earth and America is is only you know,
Speaker 2: about four, four or five percent of the population of Earth.
Speaker 2: It would only take a few percent of the rest
Speaker 2: of Earth to overwhelm everything.
Speaker 3: We're already overwhelmed. Elon, it's we're over well. You had
Speaker 3: to see the news tonight about New York, New York,
Speaker 3: and I love that place, and what they're doing to
Speaker 3: it is horrible. What they're doing to it. And all
Speaker 3: the courts do is they try and focus on Trump. Okay,
Speaker 3: let's focus on Trump, who did nothing wrong. I complained
Speaker 3: about a rigged election. Elon, what's happened is unbelievable. You
Speaker 3: have from Africa from the Congo. They're coming from the Congo,
Speaker 3: and twenty two people came in from the Congo recently
Speaker 3: and they're murderers and they've dropped. They drop them. They
Speaker 3: take them out of jails, which is very expensive, you know,
Speaker 3: to maintain the jails. They don't do too much maintaining,
Speaker 3: I can tell you. But they take them out of
Speaker 3: jail's prisons. They take them out and they bring them
Speaker 3: to the United States. They deposit them in the United States.
Speaker 3: They don't ever come back you're going to be executed,
Speaker 3: and they don't want to come back, but they won't
Speaker 3: come back. But they're coming from Africa, they're coming from Asia,
Speaker 3: they're coming from the Middle East, they're coming from South America,
Speaker 3: They're coming from everywhere. And there are a lot of
Speaker 3: every lot of ones.
Speaker 2: It's just a it's just it's just an everywhere on
Speaker 2: Earth thing, and it's just it's just not possible for
Speaker 2: the United States to absorb, you know, everyone from Earth
Speaker 2: or you know, even a few percent of the rest
Speaker 2: of Earth is just not possible.
Speaker 3: Well, we're gonna have just finish this up. We're going
Speaker 3: to have the largest deportation in history of this country,
Speaker 3: and we have no choice otherwise we're going to have
Speaker 3: a country. What they're what they've done to our country.
Speaker 3: Think of it with with you know, in Venezuela and
Speaker 3: in some of these other countries, crime is down fifty sixty,
Speaker 3: seventy eighty percent, and you would be the same you
Speaker 3: would have, you would have. I'll tell you what. Venezuela
Speaker 3: has not gotten rid of all of them. They've gotten
Speaker 3: rid of about seventy percent of their really bad people.
Speaker 3: Their jails are about fifty percent put into the United States.
Speaker 3: The same with other countries. Some are thirty percent, some
Speaker 3: are at fifty percent. They're all different. But the bottom
Speaker 3: line is they're all going to be a one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you put one hundred percent of Yeah, and
Speaker 3: they're doing it right now while this third rate phony candidate.
Speaker 3: Don't forget I beat I beat Biden. He failed in
Speaker 3: the debate miserably. And you know, some people said, oh, geez,
Speaker 3: too bad, it's too bad, he did so badly, or
Speaker 3: I did well in the bed. You know, the first
Speaker 3: night they said, wow, one of the people at CNN said,
Speaker 3: that was the greatest debate performance I've ever witnessed. And
Speaker 3: then two days later they didn't talk about that. They
Speaker 3: just said he was bad. But that's okay. That's the
Speaker 3: way I get treated, and I don't mind that at all.
Speaker 3: What I can tell you is this, we cannot have
Speaker 3: a Democrat. We cannot have her. She's incompetent, she's as
Speaker 3: bad as Biden in a difference. Yes, she hasn't done
Speaker 3: an interview since this whole scam started. And say what
Speaker 3: you want, this was a coup. This was a coup
Speaker 3: of a president of the United States, he didn't want
Speaker 3: to leave, and they said, we can do it the
Speaker 3: nice way, or we can do it the hard way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they just took him out back behind the shed
Speaker 2: and basically shot him.
Speaker 3: Oh what they did with this guy? A fan of his.
Speaker 3: And he was a horrible president, the worst president in history.
Speaker 3: And one of the reasons he was so bad. First
Speaker 3: of all, the Israeli attack would have never happened. Russia
Speaker 3: would never have attacked Ukraine, and we'd have no inflation,
Speaker 3: and we wouldn't have had the Afghanistan mess if you
Speaker 3: think of it, well, and we wouldn't have had Afghanistan.
Speaker 3: But we think of it. You take a few of
Speaker 3: those events away, and we have a different world. We
Speaker 3: would also have no inflation was caused by oil.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no.
Speaker 2: I think you make an excellent point here, which is
Speaker 2: that when other countries, can you know that that are
Speaker 2: you know, are thinking about invading or doing bad things.
Speaker 2: When they're thinking about that, they're thinking about, Okay, what's
Speaker 2: the American president going to do? And do they fear
Speaker 2: the American president or is it someone that they do
Speaker 2: not respect and do not fear, And I think they do.
Speaker 1: They do. They would.
Speaker 2: Rightfully be I mean, but you know, lots look at
Speaker 2: the footage of the assassination, they're like, Okay, you know, uh.
Speaker 1: President Trump is like, don't mess with me.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's like whereas I think people are are
Speaker 2: not going to be and they obviously have not been
Speaker 2: at all intimidated by by Biden, and they certainly will
Speaker 2: not be intimidated by by Kamala. And you have to
Speaker 2: really think about it in the context of global security.
Speaker 2: That's that's that if the if the American president is
Speaker 2: someone someone that like, you know, evil dictators are scared of,
Speaker 2: that makes a huge difference to the security of the world.
Speaker 3: So I had a good relationship with Putin despite the
Speaker 3: Russia Russia Russia hoax that lasted for over two years.
Speaker 3: Just a hoax created by Hillary Clinton and Adam Shifty Shift.
Speaker 3: Some just bad people, you know, just sick people. Frankly,
Speaker 3: I mean, Siff Schiff is a sick person. He's going
Speaker 3: to end up probably being a senator. It's hard to believe.
Speaker 3: The whole thing is hard to believe. But uh, you know,
Speaker 3: they put our country in danger with that stuff too.
Speaker 3: They actually when they make up stories and you have
Speaker 3: to fight your way out of it for a long time.
Speaker 3: But I know Putin very well. I got along with
Speaker 3: him very well. He respected me, and it's just one
Speaker 3: of those things. And he would we would talk a
Speaker 3: lot about Ukraine. It was the apple of his eye.
Speaker 3: But I said, don't ever do it. Don't ever do it.
Speaker 3: You know. I shut down north Stream too. That was
Speaker 3: the big oil pipeline, the biggest, I think, the biggest
Speaker 3: pipeline in the world, going all over Europe. I shut
Speaker 3: it down. Biden came and then they say, you know,
Speaker 3: I was I loved Russia. I was a friend of
Speaker 3: Putin and I loved Russia. Now he actually said to
Speaker 3: me one time, he said, if you're my friend, I'd
Speaker 3: hate to see you as an enemy. I shut down
Speaker 3: his pipeline, the biggest pipeline they were looking at that,
Speaker 3: the fund and this pathetic president gets in there and
Speaker 3: the first thing he did, one of the early things
Speaker 3: he did, is he shut down He shut down Keystone
Speaker 3: XL pipeline, which is our pipeline that would have employed
Speaker 3: forty eight thousand people pipeline workers. Shut it down. That was,
Speaker 3: you know, a massive job that Obama refused to allow.
Speaker 3: I allowed it in my first week because it was jobs,
Speaker 3: and it moved oil and by the way, in a
Speaker 3: much more environmentally friendly way. It's underground. It's not a
Speaker 3: truck that catches on fire or a train that catches
Speaker 3: on fire. But think of it. He shut down the
Speaker 3: UH Excel pipeline, the Keystone Excel pipeline. He shuts that down,
Speaker 3: and he approves the Russian pipeline.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just making sense.
Speaker 2: It's like it's inconsistent certainly, the but I mean, I
Speaker 2: think it's just worth emphasizing, you know, to listeners, the
Speaker 2: that the the immense importance of of whether the United
Speaker 2: States president is intimidating or not intimidating, and how much
Speaker 2: that matters to global security because there's some real tough
Speaker 2: characters out there, and if they don't think the American
Speaker 2: president is tough, they will do what they want to do.
Speaker 2: I know everyone, and that it puts the whole world
Speaker 2: in danger.
Speaker 3: Elan. I know every one of them, and I know well,
Speaker 3: I know Putin, I know President she, I know Kim
Speaker 3: Jong unerf North Korea. I know every one of them.
Speaker 3: And let me tell you, people will say, oh, this
Speaker 3: is terrible, he said. I'm not saying anything good or bad.
Speaker 3: They're at the top of their game. They're tough, they're smart,
Speaker 3: they're vicious, and they're going to protect their country. Whether
Speaker 3: they love their country, they probably do, it's just a
Speaker 3: different form of love. But they're going to protect their country.
Speaker 3: But these are tough people at the top of their game.
Speaker 3: And when they see a Kamala or when they see
Speaker 3: Biden sleepy Joe, they can't even believe it. They can't
Speaker 3: believe this happened. All the stuff that you're seeing now,
Speaker 3: all the horror that you look at Israel, they're all
Speaker 3: waiting for an attack from Iran. Iran would not be attacking.
Speaker 3: Believe me, you know when I was there, and I
Speaker 3: say it with respect because I think we would have
Speaker 3: been good with Iran. I don't want to do anything
Speaker 3: bad to Iran, but they knew not to mess around.
Speaker 3: Iran was broke because I told China, if you buy
Speaker 3: from Iran oil, it's all about the oil, that's where
Speaker 3: the money is. But if you buy oil from Iran,
Speaker 3: you're not going to do any business with the United States.
Speaker 3: And I meant it, and they said, we'll pass it.
Speaker 3: They didn't buy oil other countries. Likewise, you want to
Speaker 3: buy you're not doing business with the United States. And
Speaker 3: they were at a point where they were they had
Speaker 3: no money for Hamas, they had no money for Hesbela,
Speaker 3: they had no money for any of these instruments of terror.
Speaker 3: And it was amazing. In fact, there were articles when
Speaker 3: I was leaving, which is hard to believe, actually, especially
Speaker 3: when you look at what's happened to our country. Our
Speaker 3: country is so bad right now. It's such a different place.
Speaker 3: We were respected. Think of it. Four years ago. We
Speaker 3: were so respected to a point where when I said,
Speaker 3: don't buy oil, they didn't buy oil, but they had
Speaker 3: no money. And Israel would have never been attacked, is
Speaker 3: zero chance. And again I said to Vladimir Putin, I said,
Speaker 3: don't do it. You can't do it. Vladimir, you do it,
Speaker 3: It's going to be a bad day. You cannot do it.
Speaker 3: And I told them things that what I do. And
Speaker 3: he said no way, and I said way. And you know,
Speaker 3: it's the last time we ever had the conversation. He
Speaker 3: would he would never have done. I got along well
Speaker 3: with him. I hope to get along with well with
Speaker 3: him again. You know, getting along well with them is
Speaker 3: a good thing, not a bad thing. I got along
Speaker 3: well with John Lunn. When I met with President Obama
Speaker 3: just before entering, you know, it's a sort of a ritual,
Speaker 3: and I sat down with him and we talked to
Speaker 3: He was supposed to be for a very short period
Speaker 3: of time. It turned out to be a long period
Speaker 3: of time. I said, what's the biggest problem? He said,
Speaker 3: North Korea. I had that problem worked out very quickly.
Speaker 3: It was nasty at the beginning with rocket Man and
Speaker 3: you know, all the different things. But all of a
Speaker 3: sudden I.
Speaker 1: Got a call. Epic tweets, by the way.
Speaker 3: Yeah they were no they were epic. Everything he said.
Speaker 3: He said that he has a red button on his desk.
Speaker 3: I said, I have a red button on my desk too,
Speaker 3: but my red button is much bigger and my red
Speaker 3: button works. And then I called him a rocket man,
Speaker 3: if little rocketman. Anyway, here's the bottom line. All of
Speaker 3: a sudden I got a call from him and they
Speaker 3: said they want to meet. They want to meet me,
Speaker 3: and we met. As you remember, we met in Singapore.
Speaker 3: We have met also in Vietnam, and uh I got
Speaker 3: along with him great. We were in no danger, but
Speaker 3: President Obama. President Obama thought we were going to end
Speaker 3: up in a war, a nuclear war with him. And
Speaker 3: let me tell you, he's got a lot of nuclear self.
Speaker 3: He's got plenty of nuclear he can do plenty of damage.
Speaker 2: So yes, I mean it's because you know, I mean
Speaker 2: people like like Kim, you know, Kim talking on their
Speaker 2: respond to strength, not we well.
Speaker 3: And he and I got here and I had a
Speaker 3: good relationship. You know. Remember I remember I met him
Speaker 3: and we walked onto his land. Nobody ever walked onto
Speaker 3: his land before I walked on. I wouldn't say spring
Speaker 3: up secret service again, I wouldn't say they were thrilled
Speaker 3: when I did that. I walked onto his land and
Speaker 3: it was. It was an amazing period. But we were
Speaker 3: not in danger with him because of me. You know,
Speaker 3: I always say that we have enemies on the outside,
Speaker 3: and we have enemies on the inside. We have some
Speaker 3: really bad people in our government and people that are
Speaker 3: and controlling of the people. I mean, I mentioned names,
Speaker 3: but I don't. I really don't want to give them
Speaker 3: the credit. But we have some really bad and I
Speaker 3: say they're more dangerous than Russia and China. If you
Speaker 3: have a smart president, a president that gets it, we
Speaker 3: are not in danger from those countries because they need
Speaker 3: us and they need our help. I mean, we forced
Speaker 3: Obama if you think about it, Obama and Biden and
Speaker 3: Bush to a certain extent at all fairness, forced Russia
Speaker 3: and China together. And if you're a history stude, the
Speaker 3: first thing you learn is you cannot let Russia and
Speaker 3: China align. But then they also got If you take
Speaker 3: a look Iran and they have North Korea, that's you know,
Speaker 3: they caught the access of evil. In the old days,
Speaker 3: you have the access of evil here. We have a
Speaker 3: modern day access of evil. These are powerful countries, very
Speaker 3: heavy nuclear which is the biggest threat. You know, the
Speaker 3: biggest threat is not global warming, where the ocean is
Speaker 3: going to rise one eighth of an inch over the
Speaker 3: next four hundred years. The big and you'll have more
Speaker 3: you'll have more ocean front property. Right, The biggest threat
Speaker 3: is not that. The biggest threat is nuclear warming, because
Speaker 3: we have five countries now that have significant nuclear power,
Speaker 3: and we have to not allow anything to happen with
Speaker 3: stupid people like Biden. You know, Biden did something with Russia.
Speaker 3: There was no chance of him ever going in. And
Speaker 3: when I left, and then after I left, they started
Speaker 3: forming big armies on there on the border with Ukraine, right,
Speaker 3: And I looked at that, and I thought he was
Speaker 3: doing that because Putin's a good negotiator. I thought he
Speaker 3: was doing that to negotiate. But then Biden started saying
Speaker 3: such stupid things. For instance, he said that it can
Speaker 3: be in NATO country now put Russia, for for as
Speaker 3: long as there's been NATO has said we're never going
Speaker 3: to agree to that. And we go right up front
Speaker 3: and say that, And we did things and said things
Speaker 3: through this president with a low IQ, very low IQ.
Speaker 3: He had a low IQ thirty years ago, by the way,
Speaker 3: but now he might not even have a IQ at all.
Speaker 3: There is no there's nothing on the board that goes
Speaker 3: as law. He said things that were so stupid that
Speaker 3: that war would have been. That war had zero chance
Speaker 3: of happening if I were there, zero chance. He was
Speaker 3: saying everything the opposite, everything the opposite. And it's so
Speaker 3: sad because many more people have been killed in Ukraine
Speaker 3: than you read about. You don't read about how bloody
Speaker 3: it is and how de hey look, just in the
Speaker 3: two armies you lost to half a million people, and
Speaker 3: you know Ukraine's having a hard time. Ukraine I don't
Speaker 3: know if you saw the article recently, and it's true,
Speaker 3: you don't hear the true story. But if you think
Speaker 3: about it, Russia's gone. You know, Russia defeated Germany with US,
Speaker 3: and they defeated Napoleon. You know, they've been around a
Speaker 3: long time. They're a big fighting force. And it's very unfair.
Speaker 3: And Ukraine now doesn't have enough men. They're now using
Speaker 3: young men and very old men to fight, and it's it.
Speaker 3: We're in a very bad position. And I'm not going
Speaker 3: to blame exclusively, but I can tell you I could
Speaker 3: have stopped that, and a smart president could have stopped that.
Speaker 3: It wouldn't have happened, but we had, we had a
Speaker 3: man that actually made it. It made it more prevalent.
Speaker 3: It was so bad, the words that he was using,
Speaker 3: the stupid threats coming from a stupid face that he
Speaker 3: was using. I said, this guy's going to cause us
Speaker 3: a war. He's going to cause us And let me
Speaker 3: tell you, if it can lead to World War three,
Speaker 3: that can lead to World War three. The Middle East
Speaker 3: can lead. We have numerous places that could end up
Speaker 3: in World War three right now for no reason whatever.
Speaker 1: I think you're right.
Speaker 2: I think I think people underrate the risk of World
Speaker 2: War three, and it's just that, you know, when when
Speaker 2: looking at the risk of global theem and nuclear warfare,
Speaker 2: it's game over for humanity, and you know, that's it's
Speaker 2: something that people have I think after the end of
Speaker 2: the Cold War, people have become complacent about but they're
Speaker 2: actually have forgotten that there are currently a lot of
Speaker 2: nuclear missiles that that are that that have targeting parameters
Speaker 2: for the United States countries.
Speaker 3: And one of the things we're gonna do is we're
Speaker 3: going to build an iron dome over us. We're you know,
Speaker 3: Israel has it. We're gonna have the best iron dome
Speaker 3: in the world. We need it, and we're gonna make
Speaker 3: it all in the United States. But we're gonna have
Speaker 3: We're gonna have protection, because it just takes one maniac
Speaker 3: to you know, start something. We're gonna have protection, and
Speaker 3: we're gonna have Why shouldn't we have an iron dome.
Speaker 3: Israel has one, some other places have one that nobody
Speaker 3: even knows about, frankly, but uh, Israel has it. We're
Speaker 3: gonna have an iron dome. But you know, with all
Speaker 3: of that being said, to me, that's so important the
Speaker 3: most important. But with all of that being said, the
Speaker 3: elections coming up and the people want to hear about
Speaker 3: the economy and the fact that they can't buy groceries
Speaker 3: because they don't have enough money to buy groceries. The
Speaker 3: inflation has killed them. Food prices are up fifty sixty,
Speaker 3: even one hundred percent in some cases, and this stupid
Speaker 3: administration allowed this to happen. And it's a shame. And
Speaker 3: that's the thing that people most care about. In my opinion,
Speaker 3: they care about the border a lot, and we discussed
Speaker 3: the border at great length. It's nice to have a
Speaker 3: forum like this where I can discuss something at length.
Speaker 3: And by the way, you think Biden could do this interview,
Speaker 3: and you think that Kamalas would do this interview, they
Speaker 3: would take a pass on you. So they don't need Elon.
Speaker 3: They don't need Elon screaming up questions. It's it's pretty
Speaker 3: sad when you think that somebody that does this for
Speaker 3: a living can't answer a question or is afraid to
Speaker 3: do an interview, and in her case, with a very
Speaker 3: friendly interview. She's got all friendly interviewers. It's pretty good.
Speaker 3: But the big thing now is the economy. Elon and
Speaker 3: as much as I mean, I viewed nuclear as the
Speaker 3: single most important thing. But a lot of people don't.
Speaker 3: A lot of people don't understand that. But it doesn't
Speaker 3: have to if I understand it, that's all you need
Speaker 3: because if I was president, you're not gonna have that
Speaker 3: kind of a problem. But the thing that they really
Speaker 3: is making them angry is what Kamala and Biden have
Speaker 3: allowed to happen to the economy. It's a disaster with inflation.
Speaker 3: The inflation, it doesn't matter what you make. The inflation
Speaker 3: has eating you alive. If you're a worker or if
Speaker 3: you're a just a middle income person, you can't afford.
Speaker 3: You know, four years ago, five years ago, people were
Speaker 3: saving a lot of money. Today they're using all their
Speaker 3: money and borrowing money just to live. It's a horrible
Speaker 3: thing that's happening. And we'll end that well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people just don't understand where inflation
Speaker 2: comes from. Inflation comes from government over spending because the
Speaker 2: checks never bounced when it's written by the government. So
Speaker 2: if the government spends far more than it brings in,
Speaker 2: that increases the money supply. And if the money supply
Speaker 2: increases faster than the rate of goods and services.
Speaker 1: That's inflation.
Speaker 2: So really we need to have we need to reduce
Speaker 2: our government spending and we need to re examine. I
Speaker 2: think I think we need like a government efficiency Commission
Speaker 2: to say, like, hey, where are we spending money that's sensible?
Speaker 1: Where is it not sensible? And we need to live
Speaker 1: within our meetings.
Speaker 2: We're currently adding I think a trillion dollars to the
Speaker 2: deficit every roughly every hundred days. And you know, the
Speaker 2: interest payments on the national debt have now exceeded the
Speaker 2: defense budget.
Speaker 1: It's on the order of a trillion dollars. It's interest
Speaker 1: and it keeps going.
Speaker 3: I rebuilt our military, largely rebuilt our military. Did a
Speaker 3: great job on it, which was so important. You know,
Speaker 3: we had jets, we had fighters that were and bombers
Speaker 3: that was seventy years old, and we did a great job.
Speaker 3: And that then we by the way, then we gave
Speaker 3: eighty five billion of it back to Afghanistan. If you
Speaker 3: can believe it, we've gave them eighty five billion. You know,
Speaker 3: they're one of the larger sellers of military equipment in
Speaker 3: the world. They're selling what we gave them. That was
Speaker 3: one of the most embarrassing days in the history of
Speaker 3: our But uh, if you think about let's go back
Speaker 3: to the uh, the economy. We have to bring energy
Speaker 3: prices down. Energy started it the price of gasoline. Now
Speaker 3: your cars don't require too much. And say, you know
Speaker 3: you're you have a good and you do make a
Speaker 3: great product. I have to say, I have to be
Speaker 3: honest with you. That doesn't mean everybody should have an
Speaker 3: electric car. But these are minor details. But your product
Speaker 3: is incredible. But the gasoline elon is the cost of energy.
Speaker 3: Not only gasoline, it's the cost of heating your house
Speaker 3: and cooling your house that has to come down. It's
Speaker 3: gone up one hundred percent, one hundred and fifty and
Speaker 3: two hundred percent, and that has to come down. When
Speaker 3: that comes down, And we're gonna drill, baby, drill. You
Speaker 3: know they stopped drilling and then they went back to
Speaker 3: drilling because they went back to the Trump policy. But
Speaker 3: if they won, the day after they get into office,
Speaker 3: we're gonna this country will go out of business because
Speaker 3: they're going to go to an energy policy that's not sustainable,
Speaker 3: wind and different things. You're not going to have anything.
Speaker 3: And I know you're a big fan of the AI,
Speaker 3: and I have to say that AI, and this is
Speaker 3: shocking to me, but AI requires twice the energy that
Speaker 3: the country already produces for everything. So you're gonna have
Speaker 3: to build. We're gonna have to build a lot of
Speaker 3: energy if our country will be competitive with China, because
Speaker 3: that's our primary competitor. For this on the AI, you're
Speaker 3: gonna need a lot of electricity. You're gonna need tremendous electricity,
Speaker 3: like almost double what we produce now for the whole country.
Speaker 3: If you can believe it.
Speaker 2: Sure well, just going you know, back to this like
Speaker 2: this this basic thing which is that people try to
Speaker 2: make it sound complicated, it is not. But inflation is
Speaker 2: caused by government over spending. Would you would you agree
Speaker 2: that that we need to take a look at govern
Speaker 2: spending and and and and have perhaps a government efficiency
Speaker 2: commission that that just tries to make the spending sensible
Speaker 2: and so the country lives within its means.
Speaker 1: Just like just like a person, weight.
Speaker 3: Is incredible and it's nobody negotiates prices. You used to
Speaker 3: have a lot of people making jets and you end
Speaker 3: up with two companies and they'll probably try and merge
Speaker 3: at some point. I mean I wiped through it like
Speaker 3: air Force, just a thing like air Force one. One
Speaker 3: of the first documents they asked me to sign a
Speaker 3: general walks, I'm sure, will you police sign this document?
Speaker 3: What is it? Air Force one that's with Boeing, which
Speaker 3: is basically two planes, two seven forty sevens and the
Speaker 3: price was five point seven billion dollars for two planes. Now,
Speaker 3: now they're highly sophisticated. They're even nicer than your plane, okay,
Speaker 3: but much more sophisticate, and they're very I won't say
Speaker 3: what's on it, but they got a lot of stuff
Speaker 3: on it. Anyway, but it's five point seven crazy. It's crazy.
Speaker 3: But I said, I'm not going to pay five point
Speaker 3: seven I'm not going to do it. I said, who
Speaker 3: made the deal? Obama and his people. I said, well
Speaker 3: then I know the deal is no good. I'm not
Speaker 3: going to do it. And over course of about four weeks,
Speaker 3: by my saying I'm not going to do it, I
Speaker 3: got the price reduced by one point six billion dollars
Speaker 3: for the exact same plane other than we had a
Speaker 3: nicer paint job if you want another to but for
Speaker 3: the exact same plane I got I saved and I
Speaker 3: said to Boeing man, you guys must make a lot
Speaker 3: of money if you can reduce the price by that.
Speaker 3: But now, what I do here is that they're going
Speaker 3: back to the Biden administration and wanting big cost overruns,
Speaker 3: you know, because they see these dopey suckers in there,
Speaker 3: and they'll end up getting some of the money back.
Speaker 3: But I shaved it by one point six billion dollars
Speaker 3: for the exact same plane, and you can now take
Speaker 3: that and multiply that out time thousands of other itemies. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the numbers that astronomical. I agree with you.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if so, I mean, I mean, I
Speaker 2: think it'd be great to just have a government efficiency
Speaker 2: commission that takes a look at these things and just
Speaker 2: ensures that the taxpayer money, the taxpayers are harder money
Speaker 2: is spent in a good way.
Speaker 1: And I'd be happy to help out on such a commission.
Speaker 3: I'd love it. Well, you you're the greatest cutter. I mean,
Speaker 3: I look at what you do. You walk in, you
Speaker 3: just say you want to quit. They go on strike.
Speaker 3: I won't mention the name of the company, but they
Speaker 3: go on strike, and you say, that's okay, you're all gone.
Speaker 3: You're all gone, So every one of you is gone,
Speaker 3: and you are the greatest. You would be very good.
Speaker 3: Oh you would love it. But you know, if you
Speaker 3: look at Argentine, by the way, congratulations. I just looked
Speaker 3: at the number of people that are listening to you
Speaker 3: and I chat will quote a chat, but congratulations. This
Speaker 3: is very good. I mean it's great, it's and and
Speaker 3: you're an interesting character. You know, the new head of
Speaker 3: a place called Argentina, and he was he's a big
Speaker 3: you know, he's great and he's a big Maga fan.
Speaker 3: You know that he ran on Mega and he took
Speaker 3: it to an extreme too, he ran on Maga. And
Speaker 3: I hear he's doing really terrific job. It's going to
Speaker 3: make Argentina great again. It worked out perfectly. He came in,
Speaker 3: they bought a lot of hats, he brought over it.
Speaker 3: But he's he's doing a big job. He really cut
Speaker 3: and I'm hearing, yes, starting to do pretty well. Inflation's
Speaker 3: getting done. You know, they had like ten thousands percented.
Speaker 3: They had inflation like like not normal inflation. They had
Speaker 3: the real deal. But we're going to have that pretty soon.
Speaker 3: We we have I think we have the worst inflation
Speaker 3: we've had in one hundred years. They say it's forty
Speaker 3: eight years. I don't believe it. I think we have
Speaker 3: the worst. They don't include a lot of the items
Speaker 3: that should be included, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's it's it's it's just from from a
Speaker 2: government over spending and not just not spending tax payer money, yeah,
Speaker 2: effectively and having you know, just depart like so many
Speaker 2: departments you can't even name them all. And what Malay
Speaker 2: is doing is, you know, he's he's cutting government spending,
Speaker 2: he's simplifying things, he's having putting in regulations that make sense.
Speaker 2: And and we're Argentina overnight is experiencing a giant improvement
Speaker 2: in prosperity.
Speaker 1: But it's also a lesson for the United States, which
Speaker 1: is that.
Speaker 2: Argentina used to be one of the most prosperous countries
Speaker 2: in the world, you know, in the I think in
Speaker 2: the thirties forties, and because of bad government policy, it
Speaker 2: ruined the country. And you take Venezuela for example. Venezuela
Speaker 2: should be incredibly prosperous. They have, you know, phenomenal reserves
Speaker 2: of everything, all everything, and it should be prosperous. But
Speaker 2: if the government's wrong, it impoverishes the people. And so
Speaker 2: I think we should not be complacent in the United
Speaker 2: States and thinking that and taking out prosperity for granted,
Speaker 2: because if with bad government policy, we can run the
Speaker 2: country into the ground. And that's that's just something people
Speaker 2: should bear in mind. Don't take prosperity for granted.
Speaker 3: Well, think of education. So we're ranked at the bottom
Speaker 3: of every list. Of the top forty, we're ranked number forty,
Speaker 3: number thirty eight, Norway, Switzerland. Different countries are ranked good.
Speaker 3: Actually China is pretty close to the top. There are
Speaker 3: top six or seven, but we're ranked at the bottom,
Speaker 3: almost at the bottom, thirty eight, thirty nine to forty.
Speaker 3: In other words, horrible. And yet we spend more per
Speaker 3: pupil than any other country in the world. So we
Speaker 3: spend more. And what I'm going to do one of
Speaker 3: the first acts, and this is where I need an
Speaker 3: Elon Musk. I need somebody that has a lot of
Speaker 3: strength and courage and smarts. I want to close up
Speaker 3: Department of Education, move education back to the states, where
Speaker 3: states like Iowa, where states like Idaho. You know, not
Speaker 3: every state will do great because states that basically aren't
Speaker 3: doing good. Now you look at Gavin Newscombe, the governor
Speaker 3: of California. He's terrible. He does a terrible job, so
Speaker 3: he's not going to do great with education. But of
Speaker 3: of the fifty, I would bet that thirty five would
Speaker 3: do great, and fifteen of them or you know, twenty
Speaker 3: of them will be as good as Norway. You know,
Speaker 3: Norway is considered great. You can name them. I mean,
Speaker 3: just they're so good. Some of these countries are so good.
Speaker 3: But if you go into some of these really well
Speaker 3: run states, you know, we have states that don't know
Speaker 3: what debt is. We have states that are have low taxes,
Speaker 3: no debt, everybody working. You know, they're really well run.
Speaker 3: And maybe they have certain advantages in terms of location,
Speaker 3: in terms of you know, the land or the sun,
Speaker 3: the sun and the water and the whole thing. You know,
Speaker 3: there are a lot of advantages that some people. But
Speaker 3: if you moved education back to the fifty, you'll have
Speaker 3: some that won't do well, but you'll have but they'll
Speaker 3: actually be forced to do better because it'll be a
Speaker 3: pretty bad situation. But if you think about it, you'll
Speaker 3: have some of these states. I'll bet you'd have thirty
Speaker 3: thirty five states. It'll be much better, and you know what,
Speaker 3: it'll cost less than yeah, what it is in Washington.
Speaker 3: And these people don't care about students in these you know,
Speaker 3: far away states, and it will be will be unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think you're making a good point in that if
Speaker 2: the states have to have to if each individual, if
Speaker 2: each state has to compete against other states, then people
Speaker 2: will naturally move to states where it's better.
Speaker 3: Well like California. You know, as we said, it's a
Speaker 3: badly run state. I could go through. I got so
Speaker 3: many friends that are in those states, even if they're Democrats.
Speaker 3: I hate to mention certain states, but Illinois badly run
Speaker 3: with Pritzker, he's a real loser. But you know, some
Speaker 3: of these places are just badly run. But you know
Speaker 3: it's almost going to force them to run better, and
Speaker 3: they won't do it good initially, but you're not going
Speaker 3: to do worse than you're doing right now. And I
Speaker 3: would say that the cost, you would cut your cost
Speaker 3: by fifty or sixty percent. And you have a little monitor.
Speaker 3: You know, you want to make sure they're teaching English,
Speaker 3: is you know given them other legalists? Right?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: No, No, I mean to what I mean, I mean,
Speaker 2: so man, of these governors are doing so badly. I mean,
Speaker 2: they got so many people moving out of their state.
Speaker 2: They should they should get U Whole Salesmen of the
Speaker 2: Year award because they're driving so much.
Speaker 3: You will, it's actually amazing people moving out. Is the
Speaker 3: amazing to you as a businessman, that they can even survive,
Speaker 3: Like Illinois, so many people are leaving, and you wonder,
Speaker 3: how do they survive? I mean, how do they survive?
Speaker 3: I saw where you left California and you moved to Texas.
Speaker 3: Texas does a great job, but you know, I mean,
Speaker 3: I just wonder, how do these states survive when big businesses?
Speaker 3: A big oil company just left California, as you know,
Speaker 3: and they moved to Texas. How do these big states
Speaker 3: survive when they lose so many businesses and their taxes
Speaker 3: are already really high, you know, the taxes are among
Speaker 3: the highest taxes. You almost wonder how do they how
Speaker 3: do they continue on? And in many cases the governors
Speaker 3: don't do a good job, and their crime ridden places.
Speaker 3: You wonder, how do they continue to just go on?
Speaker 3: It's it's not it's not a good situation.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think the thing that's the only thing
Speaker 2: that's going to force some of these states to change
Speaker 2: is if they risk bankruptcy and they're not getting bailed
Speaker 2: out by the federal government.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, you don't have You remember the area in
Speaker 3: California where they had that where I guess somebody had
Speaker 3: sticky fingers and they sold a lot of money and
Speaker 3: they went into a form of chapter and it was
Speaker 3: very nasty for a period of time. But now it's
Speaker 3: probably the most popular place in all of California. So
Speaker 3: so you know, at some point something like that may
Speaker 3: have to happen. But the problem is you can't penalize
Speaker 3: people that loan money to the state when you have
Speaker 3: incompetent people like a Pritsker. Look, the family didn't want
Speaker 3: him in the family business, and that he ends up
Speaker 3: being governor of Illinois. So you know, what is he
Speaker 3: going to be? Is he going to be a great governor?
Speaker 3: And you know, you have people I could name every
Speaker 3: one of them. I got to know every one of
Speaker 3: these and some are very good and some are just horrible.
Speaker 1: Well, I think that I mean that larger point here too.
Speaker 2: You know, as you're saying like that, you know a
Speaker 2: lot of people concerned about the economy a lot of
Speaker 2: people concerned about inflation.
Speaker 1: And inflation is effectively a tax on people.
Speaker 2: That that that saved money, and for people that are
Speaker 2: working day to day, it's it's it's just it's just
Speaker 2: a form of taxation.
Speaker 1: And uh. And if we can solve the government spending problem,
Speaker 1: will solve the inflation problem, which means people will have
Speaker 1: a better standard of living. And that's that's a.
Speaker 3: Really big deal. The people that got hurt worse are
Speaker 3: the people that did it the way they were taught
Speaker 3: to do it all through, you know, their younger life,
Speaker 3: and their their young life and their whole life. The
Speaker 3: people that saved money and then they got no interest
Speaker 3: on their money, and inflation destroyed them. And frankly, they
Speaker 3: were almost better off if they didn't do anything like that.
Speaker 3: I mean, those people have been absolutely decimated. And we're
Speaker 3: going to bring those people back and help those people.
Speaker 3: We've got to get the down. You know, when I
Speaker 3: look at bacon costing five, four or five times more
Speaker 3: than it did a few years ago. When you look
Speaker 3: at some of the food products and groceries, those people go,
Speaker 3: they can't believe it. They used to be able to
Speaker 3: buy a whole cart and today. You know a lot
Speaker 3: of people just don't have the money. They go in
Speaker 3: and they can't buy anything they looked at. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: sticker shock. They call it sticker shock, right.
Speaker 2: I think it really just comes like I said, I
Speaker 2: think it's just comes down to really, I guess really
Speaker 2: two things, which is is that if you solve goverment
Speaker 2: over spending, you solve inflation, which improves lot of standards
Speaker 2: of the average person. And then and then if you deregulate,
Speaker 2: like have sensible regulations. So because a lot of the
Speaker 2: regulations are nonsensical and cause the costs to be extreme
Speaker 2: for no reason. But unless you've got effective deregulation, like
Speaker 2: Reagan did a great job on deregulation in the eighties.
Speaker 2: But it's been forty years since we hadn't to anyone really,
Speaker 2: I mean during your ordministration we made some but I
Speaker 2: think this tarity to make I think radical progress with
Speaker 2: sensible regulation.
Speaker 1: And yeah, we set a record.
Speaker 3: We did more deregulation and more restrictions on all of
Speaker 3: the different businesses than any other president. I remember I
Speaker 3: had the rule for everyone we put in you have
Speaker 3: to get rid of at ten or twelve, and we
Speaker 3: we did radical cuts and all of that, and a
Speaker 3: lot of that's being put back by this administration. And
Speaker 3: we did radical cuts and things that weren't necessary. But
Speaker 3: we were we were all set, you know, we had
Speaker 3: the best economy ever maybe in the world. And then
Speaker 3: what happened as COVID came in and we had a
Speaker 3: focus on that and nobody knew what it was. And
Speaker 3: I always say I got good marks on economy, good
Speaker 3: marks on military. We knocked out Isis. We did so
Speaker 3: many different things. We rebuilt, but you know, I never
Speaker 3: got the credit that we really deserved on what we
Speaker 3: did with COVID. We never got the credit. But we
Speaker 3: were if had that not happened, a gift from China
Speaker 3: from Wuhan came in from Wuhan, the Wuhan Labs, and
Speaker 3: I always said it and it turned out to be right.
Speaker 3: But had not had that not happened, we were set
Speaker 3: to start reducing debt. We're going to reduce taxes further.
Speaker 3: I gave the largest tax cuts and we were going
Speaker 3: to reduce taxes still further for middle income people, not
Speaker 3: only businesses. But we did it for businesses because they're
Speaker 3: the ones that That's why we had the great job numbers.
Speaker 3: But we were set to really start reducing debt. And
Speaker 3: you know, we were sitting on the biggest pile of
Speaker 3: liquid gold anywhere in the world, bigger than Saudi Arabia,
Speaker 3: bigger than Russia, and we were going to drill and
Speaker 3: we were going to make so much money. We were
Speaker 3: going to supply Europe with oil. I had stopped the
Speaker 3: Russian pipeline and we were going to supply them with
Speaker 3: oil and gas. We were going to we were going
Speaker 3: to make a fortune. And then the COVID came in
Speaker 3: and we had we really had a divert. Then what
Speaker 3: happened is when they came in, you know, we kept
Speaker 3: a lot of businesses alive. If I didn't do what
Speaker 3: we did, we would have had a nineteen twenty nine
Speaker 3: type depression. But the problem is when Biden came in,
Speaker 3: he got trillions of dollars and just started spending it stupidly.
Speaker 3: You didn't need it anymore. You know, we got over
Speaker 3: that bad period where it was everybody was dying and
Speaker 3: feeling you know, it was it was just not a
Speaker 3: good period. Interestingly, you know, during his administration, many more
Speaker 3: people died. During his administration of COVID than during my administration,
Speaker 3: and we really got the brunt of it. But people
Speaker 3: don't realize more people died during his administration than ours.
Speaker 3: But it diverted us from doing what I wanted to do.
Speaker 3: But we had the greatest for you know, almost three years.
Speaker 3: We had the great and you know that probably better
Speaker 3: than anybody. So many of your friends said to me,
Speaker 3: the best years we've ever had in business were during
Speaker 3: the Trump years, and also said that African American Hispanic
Speaker 3: American were so incredible. They were having the best Asian
Speaker 3: American women, men, young people without a diploma, young people
Speaker 3: that graduated from the best colleges, from from m I T,
Speaker 3: from the Wharton School, from all of the great colleges Harvard.
Speaker 3: They were doing better, and people without a diploma were
Speaker 3: doing better, and everybody was happy. And then COVID came
Speaker 3: and we had we had the problem is they spent
Speaker 3: trillions and trillions of dollars. They wasted. They shouldn't have
Speaker 3: taken any money and we wouldn't be having inflation right now,
Speaker 3: which is killing our country.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, I mean I should probably say
Speaker 2: something about like, you know, made my views on climate
Speaker 2: change and oil and gas because I think it probably
Speaker 2: different from what most people would assume, because my views
Speaker 2: are actually pretty I think moderate in this regard, which
Speaker 2: is that I don't think we should vilify oil and
Speaker 2: gas industry and the people that have worked very hard
Speaker 2: in those industries to provide the necessary energy to support
Speaker 2: the economy. And and if we were to stop using
Speaker 2: oil and gas right now, we would all be starving
Speaker 2: and the economy would collapse. So it's you know, I
Speaker 2: don't think it's right to sort of vilify the oil
Speaker 2: and gas industry, and and I and I you know,
Speaker 2: and the world the world has a certain demand for
Speaker 2: oil and gas, and it is probably better if the
Speaker 2: United States provides that than than than some other countries,
Speaker 2: and it would it would help with prosperity in the US.
Speaker 1: And at the.
Speaker 2: Same time, obviously my view is is like we do,
Speaker 2: over time want to move to a sustainable energy economy
Speaker 2: because eventually you do run out of I mean, you
Speaker 2: run out of oil and gas. It's it's not therefore,
Speaker 2: it's not infinite, and there is.
Speaker 1: There is some risk. I think it's not the risk
Speaker 1: is not as as high.
Speaker 2: As uh, you know, a lot of people say it
Speaker 2: is with respect to global warming. But I think if if,
Speaker 2: if you just keep increasing the post million in the
Speaker 2: atmosphere long enough, eventually it actually simply gets.
Speaker 1: Uncomfortable to breathe. People don't realize this.
Speaker 2: If the if you go, if you go past one
Speaker 2: thousand post million of CO two, you start getting headaches
Speaker 2: and nausea.
Speaker 1: And so we're now in the sort of four hundred range.
Speaker 2: We're adding I think about roughly two parts million per year,
Speaker 2: So I mean it still gives us. So what it
Speaker 2: means is like we still have quite a bit of time.
Speaker 2: But but so there's not like we don't need to rush,
Speaker 2: and we don't need to like, you know, stop farmers
Speaker 2: from farming or you know, prevent people from having steaks
Speaker 2: or basic stuff like that, Like you leave the farmers alone.
Speaker 3: How crazy is that? Where I mean, you have farmers
Speaker 3: that are not allowed to farm anymore and have to
Speaker 3: get rid of their cattle, and the whole the whole
Speaker 3: world is a little crazy. But it's largely taken its
Speaker 3: lead from us. I do say, though, I've heard in
Speaker 3: terms of the fossil fuel because even to create your
Speaker 3: electric car and create the electricity he needed for the
Speaker 3: electric car, you know, fossil fuel is what really creates
Speaker 3: that at the generating plans, and you know, so you
Speaker 3: sort of can't get away from it at this moment.
Speaker 3: I mean someday you might be able to, but I
Speaker 3: do hear we have anywhere from one hundred to five
Speaker 3: hundred years left. You know, much of it hasn't even
Speaker 3: been found yet, but there are tremendous like anwar. I
Speaker 3: got anwar in Alaska approved. Ronald Reagan couldn't do it.
Speaker 3: Nobody could do it. Everybody tried, nobody could do it.
Speaker 3: I got it approved. The first thing that Biden did
Speaker 3: was unimproved to get rid of it. He ended it.
Speaker 3: His secretary went in and she ended it. And what
Speaker 3: a disgrace. That's anwhar that's bigger or they think it
Speaker 3: could be bigger than Saudi Arabia in Alaska could be
Speaker 3: bigger than Saudi Arabia. But they went in and they
Speaker 3: terminated it. And I'll get it going very quickly because
Speaker 3: not only is it big for Alaska, I mean you
Speaker 3: talk about noomic development, that for the United States. I
Speaker 3: mean that that is they say bigger than Saudi Arabia
Speaker 3: or the same size and pure really good stuff, and
Speaker 3: you know they ended, so I think we have you know,
Speaker 3: perhaps hundreds of years left, nobody really knows. But during
Speaker 3: that during that coming will come around. That will be
Speaker 3: very good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean as would be you know, a
Speaker 2: little more aggressive in that. But it's it's not the
Speaker 2: sort of like we'rell gonna die in five years stuff.
Speaker 1: That's that's obviously BS.
Speaker 2: But in my view is like if you just look
Speaker 2: at sort of the post million uh that increments every year,
Speaker 2: you know, you get sort of two or three poster
Speaker 2: million every year of CO two. I mean, I think
Speaker 2: some of that it's problematic if it accelerates, if you
Speaker 2: start going from two or three to say five, and
Speaker 2: then there may be some situations where you get to
Speaker 2: just a step change increase in the CO two and
Speaker 2: and I think we don't we don't want to get
Speaker 2: too close to a thousand ppm because like that's that's
Speaker 2: actually makes it uncomfortable to to to breathe. Like just
Speaker 2: existing in a thousand ppm CO two is uncountable. That's
Speaker 2: like a that's considered like an industrial hazard, right, just
Speaker 2: so so it's you know, that's that's that's actually start
Speaker 2: getting headaches and stuff. So it's even without global warming,
Speaker 2: it's not it's not comfortable to you don't want.
Speaker 1: To get too close to that. But I mean, I
Speaker 1: think we've got I think we want to just move over.
Speaker 2: And like and if if I don't know, fifty to
Speaker 2: one hundred years from now, we're we're I don't know,
Speaker 2: mostly sustainable. I think that'll probably be okay. So it's
Speaker 2: it's it's not like the houses on fire immediately, but
Speaker 2: I think it is something we need to to move towards.
Speaker 2: And on you know, on balance, it's probably better to
Speaker 2: move they're faster than slower. But like said, without vilifying
Speaker 2: the oil and gas industry, uh and and and without
Speaker 2: causing hardship in the short term, I.
Speaker 1: Think this can be done.
Speaker 2: With without you know, people can still have you know,
Speaker 2: a stake and they can still drive gasing cars and
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's it's okay, it's like, it's not
Speaker 2: I don't think we should valify people for it, but
Speaker 2: I think we should just just generally lean in the
Speaker 2: direction of sustainability.
Speaker 1: And uh.
Speaker 2: I actually think solar is going to be a majority
Speaker 2: of of uth's energy generation UH in the future, and
Speaker 2: it's certainly trending that way. And and so you get
Speaker 2: the solar power mind that with with with batteries, so
Speaker 2: because obviously the sun doesn't shine at night, and uh,
Speaker 2: and they use that to charge the electric cars, and
Speaker 2: you have a long term sustainable solution. And you know,
Speaker 2: that's that's what tells us trying to move things towards
Speaker 2: and I think we've made a lot of progress in
Speaker 2: progress in that regard. But when you look at our cars,
Speaker 2: we'd like, we don't believe that environmentalism, that caring about
Speaker 2: the arm it should should mean that you have to suffer.
Speaker 1: So we make sure that our cars.
Speaker 2: Are beautiful, if they drive well, that they're fast, they're
Speaker 2: you know, sexy.
Speaker 1: I mean they're they're they're cool. In fact, literally I mean.
Speaker 2: The sexier model S, Model three, Model X and Y
Speaker 2: spells out sexy.
Speaker 1: It's probably most expensive joke out there. But I you know,
Speaker 1: I just I don't know, like cheesy humor, you know.
Speaker 1: So and but I'm I'm I'm.
Speaker 2: A big fan of like, let's have an inspiring future
Speaker 2: and let's uh, let's work towards you know, a better future,
Speaker 2: and and and we do so without demonizing, right.
Speaker 3: Okay, you know it's very interesting you use the word
Speaker 3: global warming and today they use the word climate change,
Speaker 3: because you know, you have some places that go up,
Speaker 3: and so they were getting themselves in a little trouble
Speaker 3: with the word global warming because not every place is warming.
Speaker 3: Some places are going the opposite direction. But uh, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm sort of waiting for you to come up with
Speaker 3: solar panels on the roofs of your cars and on
Speaker 3: the trunks of the cars, and it just seems like
Speaker 3: something that at some point you will come up with.
Speaker 3: I'm sure you'll be the first, but it would seem
Speaker 3: that a solar panel on the roofs, you know, on
Speaker 3: flat surfaces, on certain surfaces might be good at least
Speaker 3: in certain areas of the country where you have the
Speaker 3: or the world where you have the sun. But I
Speaker 3: would think, and I have no idea because that's not
Speaker 3: my world, but I would think that this would be
Speaker 3: something that would be interesting. But you know, the one
Speaker 3: thing that I don't understand is that people talk about
Speaker 3: global warming or they talk about climate change, but they
Speaker 3: never talk about nuclear warming. And for me, that's an
Speaker 3: immediate problem because you have, as I said, five countries
Speaker 3: where you have major nuclear and you know, probably some
Speaker 3: others are getting there, and that's very dangerous. That's why
Speaker 3: you need a strong American president because you just you
Speaker 3: don't want to have this proliferation. But you have five
Speaker 3: countries and getting more. You know, China is much less
Speaker 3: than us right now, but they're going to catch us
Speaker 3: sooner than people think. They're way lower. Russia and US
Speaker 3: are number one, and we were sort of tied and
Speaker 3: China is far behind. But they're developing at a level
Speaker 3: that you know, you're not surprised to hear very fast.
Speaker 3: It's gonna they'll end up catching up, maybe even sempastic.
Speaker 3: But to me, the biggest problem is not climate change.
Speaker 3: It's not and and and everything is you know, a problem,
Speaker 3: but it's degrees to me. The big problem is the
Speaker 3: nuclear power. The power of nuclear is so great. And
Speaker 3: when I talk about I'll prevent world I'll prevent World
Speaker 3: War three, I will. But but the truth is that
Speaker 3: you have to because this is no longer army tanks
Speaker 3: going back and forth and shooting at each other. This
Speaker 3: is a level of destruction and power that nobody's ever
Speaker 3: seen before.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Actually there's the there's the bad side of nuclear which
Speaker 2: is a nuclear war, very bad side. But there's there's
Speaker 2: also I think nuclear electricity radio and it's actually, you know,
Speaker 2: people have the sphere of nuclear nuclear electricity generation, but
Speaker 2: it's actually one of the safest forms of electricity generation.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's just a huge misunderstanding. And if you
Speaker 2: look at the injuries and desks you know, caused by say,
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not going to try to pick on
Speaker 2: call money if it's just any kind of mining operation,
Speaker 2: and uh, this is certain number of injuries and desk
Speaker 2: per year, and you compare that to nuclear, nuclear is
Speaker 2: actually way better.
Speaker 1: So it's it's underrated as a.
Speaker 2: As an electricity source, and I think it's it's something
Speaker 2: that's worth reconsidering, but there's so much regulation that people
Speaker 2: can't get it done, so that you know.
Speaker 3: Maybe they'll have to change today. The name is is
Speaker 3: a rough name. There are some areas likely like when
Speaker 3: you see what happened, to rebrand it, we'll have to
Speaker 3: give it a good name, We'll name it after you
Speaker 3: or something. You know. No, it has hey, it has
Speaker 3: the branding problem, you know, when you see what happened
Speaker 3: a branding problem, when you see what happened in Japan
Speaker 3: where they say you won't be able to go on
Speaker 3: the land for about three thousand years. Do you ever
Speaker 3: see that? And in Russia where they had the problem,
Speaker 3: where they you know, there's a lot of bad things
Speaker 3: happened and they have a problem, and they say that
Speaker 3: in two thousand years people will start to occupy the
Speaker 3: land again. You know, you realize it's pretty bad, but
Speaker 3: you're right about it.
Speaker 1: It's basically it's actually not that bad.
Speaker 2: So so like after Pokushima happened in Japan, like people
Speaker 2: were asking me in California, you know, are we worried
Speaker 2: about like a nuclear cloud coming from Japan. I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: that's crazy, It's it's actually it's not even dangerous. In Pokushima,
Speaker 2: I actually flew there and and and ate locally grown vegetables.
Speaker 1: On TV to prove it.
Speaker 2: And I donated a solar water treatment a solar power
Speaker 2: system for a water treatment plant.
Speaker 3: And yeah, but you happen to be failing so well lately,
Speaker 3: and I'm worried about it. No, no, but I'm only
Speaker 3: getting on mine.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's it's like, you know, Hiroshiman and Knightshoki were bombed,
Speaker 2: but now they're they're like full cities again.
Speaker 1: So it's really not something that you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: not as scary as people think. Basically, Let's see.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean there's some other topics we should
Speaker 2: touch on, you know, like lawfair.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, we need to be.
Speaker 3: Concerned about what they've done to this country obviously. Yeah. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 3: we just won the big case in Florida. This was
Speaker 3: a Biden administration did something that's never been done in
Speaker 3: this country. And let's go after that political opponent me
Speaker 3: with this nonsense and just nonsense. And the big case
Speaker 3: in Florida, we won. But they've always they always pick
Speaker 3: a judge and a jury, and they used local DA's,
Speaker 3: they used the local attorney generals like Fani, you know
Speaker 3: Fani spelled f a and I Fani. And it's all
Speaker 3: a big hoax and it's all run from there. Like
Speaker 3: in Manhattan, the one of the top people from the
Speaker 3: Justice Department went in rand Manhattan ran the state. The
Speaker 3: Letitia James deal was run by a person from the
Speaker 3: Department of Justice. Biden. They've never done this before, and
Speaker 3: they set up a very bad precedents. It's called law
Speaker 3: fair warfare. It's a terrible thing and never happened in
Speaker 3: our country. It does happen in Banana republics and third
Speaker 3: world countries, but it's never happened. And the incredible thing
Speaker 3: is it actually drove my numbers up because people see,
Speaker 3: you know, fortunately I have a platform like you or
Speaker 3: you know, in all fairness, like a conversation like this,
Speaker 3: where I can talk about it that people understand. I mean,
Speaker 3: you fight for election integrity and you end up getting
Speaker 3: indicted because you're fighting for election integrity. And when the
Speaker 3: day comes that you can't fight for election integrity, you
Speaker 3: don't have a country anymore. So what happens. What happens
Speaker 3: is they went after their political opponent me. Now, Biden's
Speaker 3: a you know, close to vegetable stage in my opinion. Okay,
Speaker 3: I looked at him today on the beach and I said,
Speaker 3: why would anybody allow him? The guy could barely walk.
Speaker 3: Why would but anybody allow him? Does he have a
Speaker 3: political advisor to thinks this looks good? You know, he
Speaker 3: thinks this looks good because it looks so bad and
Speaker 3: it's it's ridiculous. I mean, and he's been doing that
Speaker 3: for a long time. You know, he can't lift the chair.
Speaker 3: The chair weighs about three ounces. It's meant for children
Speaker 3: and old people to lift, and he can't lift it.
Speaker 3: The whole thing is crazy.
Speaker 2: Well, it's clearly, I mean he's clearly like, we just
Speaker 2: don't have a president, right.
Speaker 3: You don't have a president. And she's going to be
Speaker 3: worse than that because she is a San Francisco Liberal
Speaker 3: who destroyed San Francisco and then as Attorney general, she
Speaker 3: destroyed California. You talk about location, and we're talking about
Speaker 3: the sun and the water and all, there's nothing better
Speaker 3: than California. She has destroyed that. She was the original
Speaker 3: da she was the original in San Francisco, she was
Speaker 3: the original Attorney general in California. What she has done
Speaker 3: to California is, well, you know better than I do.
Speaker 3: You just left California for a lot of those reasons.
Speaker 3: And what she's done with with crime, with with cashless bail,
Speaker 3: where you kill somebody, I mean we have states there
Speaker 3: you kill somebody and they let you out right away.
Speaker 3: I mean you don't have to even put up and
Speaker 3: then they never find the people unless they kill again,
Speaker 3: and then they let them out again. Our country is
Speaker 3: becoming a very dangerous place and she is a radical
Speaker 3: left San Francisco liberal and now she's trying to protect
Speaker 3: Now she's looking like she's she wants to be more
Speaker 3: Trump than Trump. If that's possible. I don't think it's possible,
Speaker 3: But she wants to be more Trump than Trump.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want a wall.
Speaker 3: I want you know, she wants to release all the
Speaker 3: prisoners that are in attention, and some of these guys
Speaker 3: are really bad. That just came out to that she wants.
Speaker 3: She doesn't want to build the wall, even though the
Speaker 3: walls work. Walls and wheels. You know, in your business,
Speaker 3: everything you do is obsolete as well, not the tunnels,
Speaker 3: but everything is obsolete. Even your rocket shifts, they're like
Speaker 3: a month later, they're obsolete. You find a better way
Speaker 3: to the only thing that's not obsolete is a wall
Speaker 3: and a wheel and the wall. You know, I built
Speaker 3: hundreds of miles of wall, and that's why we had
Speaker 3: such good numbers. I was going to add two hundred miles.
Speaker 3: We bought it. We could have flipped it, flipped it
Speaker 3: up in three weeks, and they sold it for five
Speaker 3: cents on the dollar. That meant I said, wow, that
Speaker 3: means that they actually do want to have open borders.
Speaker 3: She wants to have open borders, and now she's going
Speaker 3: like she's tough on the on the border. It's such
Speaker 3: a lie, and everybody knows it's country. It's a disgrace
Speaker 3: that she can say no.
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, what was happening sort of overnight is
Speaker 2: their their rewriting history and making Coumo sound like a moderate,
Speaker 2: when in fact she is far left, like far far left, worse.
Speaker 3: Than Bernie Sanders. She is considered more liberal by far
Speaker 3: than Bernie Sanders. She's a radical left lunatic. And if
Speaker 3: she's going to be our president very quickly, you're not
Speaker 3: going to have a country anymore. And she'll go back
Speaker 3: to all of the things that she believes in. She
Speaker 3: believes in defunding the police, she believes in no fracking zero.
Speaker 3: Now all of a sudden she's saying, no, I will
Speaker 3: I really want to see fracking the day if they
Speaker 3: got in the day she got in, she'll end fracking.
Speaker 3: And by the way, if people didn't think that the
Speaker 3: lunatics that really believe in that, they won't vote for,
Speaker 3: you know, like the Palestinians and Israel. She is so
Speaker 3: anti Israel, and she's bad for both Biden actually just
Speaker 3: something that was impossible. Both sides hate them, you know,
Speaker 3: both sides. That was a hard thing to do. Unification.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, I mean, I mean the you know,
Speaker 2: Nettyahu came to give a talk to a joint Senate
Speaker 2: and House sitting and I was there and Kamala stood
Speaker 2: them up.
Speaker 1: You know what does that say?
Speaker 3: I think it's highly disrespectful. And I say, if you're
Speaker 3: a Jewish person, or if you believe in Israel, if
Speaker 3: you're a person that you know is a very pro Israel,
Speaker 3: if you vote for her, it's worse than Biden, and
Speaker 3: Biden has mad. But if you vote for her, you
Speaker 3: ought to have your head examined. And you see tonight,
Speaker 3: I mean, as we're doing this, I'm seeing reports coming
Speaker 3: that they expect to attack tonight or tomorrow from hundreds
Speaker 3: and maybe thousands of rockets. You know, they're iron dome
Speaker 3: as they call it, as we all call it. But
Speaker 3: their shield that they build that can be swamped. We'll
Speaker 3: use the term that's appropriate, swamp. But they swamp it
Speaker 3: by shooting enough missiles. You know, there's better than anybody.
Speaker 3: By shooting enough missiles, they can't defend themselves. You know,
Speaker 3: they just obliterate the whole place. And that's what some
Speaker 3: people think they're looking to do. And we have no leadership.
Speaker 3: There's no respect for the United States of America with
Speaker 3: these people. And I'm telling you she'll be worse than
Speaker 3: him because she's a belief in being read a left
Speaker 3: and he wasn't.
Speaker 1: I think you're right.
Speaker 2: I mean, you really it's important for the public that
Speaker 2: may be listening to this to say to look at
Speaker 2: Kamala's track record, you know, before the last month, and say, uh,
Speaker 2: is that a track record you agree with? And I
Speaker 2: think if you're an independent moderate, you definitely would not
Speaker 2: agree with it, because it is. Her behavior has been
Speaker 2: far left, and we're seeing just an overnight propaganda attempt
Speaker 2: to rewrite history and make it sound like Kamala's moderate
Speaker 2: when she in fact is not moderate.
Speaker 3: Well, her her running mate approved signed into legislation camppons
Speaker 3: in boys bathrooms. Okay, now that's all I have to
Speaker 3: hear camp pons and boys bathrooms, and that means she
Speaker 3: believes in that too. I mean, she picked this guy
Speaker 3: because he was the closest to her. A lot of
Speaker 3: people thought she'd picked sort of the opposite. But she
Speaker 3: picked an anti Israel, radical left person. But she is
Speaker 3: far worse, they say, than Bernie Sanders if we have
Speaker 3: her as a president, if we have a Democrat. At
Speaker 3: this moment, there's a president, I don't think our country
Speaker 3: can survive.
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's a massive I think
Speaker 2: I think we're in massive trouble, frankly with with a
Speaker 2: Kamala administration. And that's my honest opinion. And and I
Speaker 2: think I think really it's essential that that you win
Speaker 2: for the good of the country for this election.
Speaker 1: And I mean that's understating my opinion. Now you know,
Speaker 1: you may have seen.
Speaker 2: This, but I got a letter from the the EU
Speaker 2: Commission like saying, you know, to not have disinformation on
Speaker 2: the like during this discussion that we're having, like and
Speaker 2: you know, there's like there's there's a lot of attempts
Speaker 2: to do censorship and to force censorship even on Americans
Speaker 2: from other countries.
Speaker 1: And you know, what do you think about that?
Speaker 3: Well, I know the European Union very well. They take
Speaker 3: great advantage of the United States in trade. As you know,
Speaker 3: we through a different form NATO, we protect them. And
Speaker 3: yet if you build a car in the United States.
Speaker 3: You can't sell it in Europe. You just can't sell it.
Speaker 3: It's it's impossible. The same thing with our farmers. Our
Speaker 3: farmers find it very difficult to do business. You know.
Speaker 3: We have a deficit with them of two hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty billion dollars, which people don't know. It sounds so nice,
Speaker 3: the European Union, but let me tell you, they're they're
Speaker 3: not as tough as China, but they're bad and I
Speaker 3: let them know it, and that's probably why they notified you. No,
Speaker 3: they don't treat our country. Well, we defend them, you
Speaker 3: know with Ukraine. So we're in for two hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty billion and they're in for about seventy one billion,
Speaker 3: and they have the same size. It's if you add
Speaker 3: up the European nations that you know, in terms of
Speaker 3: an economy, it's about the same size. When you say,
Speaker 3: is US and they're in and and they're a much
Speaker 3: greater risk they they're right there. We have an ocean
Speaker 3: separating us from In this case, the enemy would be
Speaker 3: Russia used to be for the Soviet Union. But let's
Speaker 3: assume they're close enough. What happens is they're in for
Speaker 3: seventy something million, I think even less than that billion,
Speaker 3: and we're in for about two hundred and fifty billion,
Speaker 3: and it could be a lot higher than that. And
Speaker 3: I say, why aren't you going to equalize? Why aren't
Speaker 3: they paying what we're paying? And they're in much more,
Speaker 3: you know, it's much more important for them because of
Speaker 3: the fact that you know they're right near there. I mean,
Speaker 3: they're all sort of in that location. We're not. But
Speaker 3: they should, they should. And I did it with NATO
Speaker 3: were there were only seven countries that were paid up
Speaker 3: in NATO out of twenty eight at the time, and
Speaker 3: the United States was subsidized. The United States was subsidizing NATO,
Speaker 3: tremendously subsidizing NATO. And I said, I went in and
Speaker 3: I said, you got to pay up. If you don't
Speaker 3: pay up, we're not going to defend you any longer.
Speaker 3: I took a lot of heat, but you know what happened,
Speaker 3: Billions and billions of dollars came flowing in.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I think I think a lot of the
Speaker 2: public isn't isn't aware of the fact that the United
Speaker 2: States pays a disproportionate share of the NATO expenses.
Speaker 3: And then we get thinking advantage you of on trade.
Speaker 3: So think about that.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean the point of NATO is defending Europe,
Speaker 2: and it's you know, it's like then, okay, well, why
Speaker 2: is the United States paying disproportionately more to defend Europe
Speaker 2: than Europe. That doesn't make sense. That's unfair, and that
Speaker 2: that is an appropriate thing to address.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, when you talk about cost cutting and
Speaker 3: savings and everything else. I mean, honestly, look, there's nobody
Speaker 3: that feels worse about the Ukraine situation than I do,
Speaker 3: because I know it would have never happened. I know Zelenski,
Speaker 3: he was very honorable to me because when they went
Speaker 3: with the Russia hoax and they said I had a
Speaker 3: phone call with him. He said it was a perfect
Speaker 3: phone call. It was a great phone call he could
Speaker 3: have granted and you know, said, oh he was very threatening.
Speaker 3: He said, no, it's a very nice phone call. I
Speaker 3: called him up to congratulate him on his win. And
Speaker 3: you end up getting impeached because these people are lunatives.
Speaker 3: You know, I was talking about the difference from the
Speaker 3: people within and the enemies on the outside. In many cases,
Speaker 3: the people from within are more dangerous for our country
Speaker 3: than the Russias and the Chinas. If you have a
Speaker 3: smart president, you're not going to have a problem with them.
Speaker 3: You're gonna make you're going to do things. Yeah, now
Speaker 3: they've taken advantage of them incredibly, but you're going to
Speaker 3: do things with the right person. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's obvious that you're a believer and
Speaker 2: an advocate of a free speech because during your first
Speaker 2: time as president, you were attacked relentlessly every day, often
Speaker 2: very unfairly with false you know, with false attacks, and
Speaker 2: you didn't try to shut down the media.
Speaker 1: You didn't try to inhibit their freedom of speech. And
Speaker 1: I think that's his lot.
Speaker 3: Well, the good thing is that you and I have
Speaker 3: and some people, very few, we can get the word out,
Speaker 3: although sometimes it's hard because they don't want to print it,
Speaker 3: you know, like like we're having a great conversation right now.
Speaker 3: Kamala wouldn't have this conversation. She can't because she's not smart,
Speaker 3: you know, she's not a smart person, by the way,
Speaker 3: she can't have this conversation. And Biden, we don't even
Speaker 3: have to talk about it. I mean, he couldn't have
Speaker 3: this conversation. He would have given up in the first
Speaker 3: half of a question. He would have walked out. He
Speaker 3: would have said where am I? Where am I going?
Speaker 3: So anyway, but no, he wouldn't have this.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 3: Not a lot of people would have this conversation. But
Speaker 3: you know, we cover a lot of territory. But the
Speaker 3: beauty is that you, you know, we can have a
Speaker 3: conversation and yes, I have to get it out without
Speaker 3: because I gets a.
Speaker 1: Really big point. You can actually have a conversation with you.
Speaker 3: It's nice.
Speaker 1: And you can't have a conversation with Biden Kamala. It's
Speaker 1: like not is it possible? Yes, so this is like
Speaker 1: talking to an MPC. It's just impossible.
Speaker 3: But think of it. We need a man or person
Speaker 3: who's unbelievably sharp in order to stop all the nuclear danger,
Speaker 3: all the dangers that I'm talking about. And I got
Speaker 3: along with all these you know, I got along with
Speaker 3: Kim Jonga and we had dinner, we had everything, and
Speaker 3: he really liked me, and I got along with him
Speaker 3: really well. By the way, he's the absolute boss over there.
Speaker 3: You know a lot of people said, oh, do you
Speaker 3: think you will let me tell you I saw things
Speaker 3: that you don't want to know about. He is the boss,
Speaker 3: but we had a good relationship. And he doesn't like Biden.
Speaker 3: He considers him a stupid man. He said, he's a
Speaker 3: stupid man. Well, at least he speaks his mind. But
Speaker 3: you know, in this country, you're not sort of allowed
Speaker 3: to say it, but I guess you are. You should
Speaker 3: be allowed to say that. It's true. But we need,
Speaker 3: really we need smart people, and we need people that
Speaker 3: have an ability to lead, and she doesn't have that ability.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine, now, you know, Chairman, she very well.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine her and him negotiating or even standing together.
Speaker 3: It is a whole concept, is we date. She is terrible,
Speaker 3: She's terrible, but he's getting a free rider. I threw
Speaker 3: a picture of her on Time magazine today. She looks
Speaker 3: like the most beautiful actress ever to live. It was
Speaker 3: a drawing, and actually she looked very much like our
Speaker 3: great first lady Milania.
Speaker 1: She looks she.
Speaker 3: Didn't look she didn't look like Camilla. That's right, But
Speaker 3: of course she's a beautiful woman, so we'll leave it
Speaker 3: at that, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, maybe it's like I think part
Speaker 2: of what you know, people in America wanted, you know,
Speaker 2: people in America wantn't want to feel excited and inspired
Speaker 2: about the future.
Speaker 1: We want to feel like the tuture was going to
Speaker 1: be better than the past.
Speaker 2: And at this America is going to do things that
Speaker 2: are greater than we've done in the past, reached new
Speaker 2: heights that make you proud to be an American and
Speaker 2: uh and excited about the future.
Speaker 3: They want the American dreamback, you know, they want the
Speaker 3: American dream back more important than anything else. It's it's
Speaker 3: like you don't have that today because the people they've
Speaker 3: been just sucked. They the incompetent people running are you know,
Speaker 3: the Biden thing is very interesting. People just found him
Speaker 3: to be incompetent. And when I debated him, I was like,
Speaker 3: is this for real?
Speaker 1: It was, yeah, it was just absurd. But I mean,
Speaker 1: I think there are like, you know, some some you know,
Speaker 1: grand projects that that that we could do.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think, like, you know, we could we
Speaker 2: could build a base on the Moon. We could send
Speaker 2: American nationals to Mars. We we could built build high
Speaker 2: speed connections that are more advanced than anything else in
Speaker 2: the world between our cities, so people have fast transport.
Speaker 1: You know, it's possible to solve traffic with tunnels.
Speaker 2: We were you know, we're already made great progress in
Speaker 2: Vegas doing that, and you know, and and and just
Speaker 2: do things that are exciting and aspiring to make the
Speaker 2: future feel like it's better than the past.
Speaker 3: Well, I what you did in Vegas, and I'll tell
Speaker 3: you it was amazing. I got to see. I took
Speaker 3: a big glimpse at it, and it's incredible. What you know,
Speaker 3: it's incredible. And you could do that all over. You
Speaker 3: could do that all over. It's it's deep. Yeah, you
Speaker 3: don't even need much structure, you know, assuming you're in
Speaker 3: the right area.
Speaker 1: No, it's straightforward.
Speaker 3: It's amazing.
Speaker 2: So and like, I think we could do some things
Speaker 2: that like like China's got incredible high speed rail between
Speaker 2: its cities. But I think it's actually possible with with
Speaker 2: with tunnels, if it with deregulation, with with an ability
Speaker 2: to actually it's like legal to actually do the tunnels,
Speaker 2: then you can have high speed tunnels that are actually
Speaker 2: better than anything else in the world for high speed
Speaker 2: transport between cities. And that would be something that you know,
Speaker 2: Americans can say, Wow, Okay, we've got something that's cooler
Speaker 2: than anyone else in the world. That's that's kind of
Speaker 2: thing that makes you proud to be.
Speaker 3: Much safer than surface trains where there is a danger there,
Speaker 3: you know, with people with crazy people, it's much safer,
Speaker 3: much better. And you know, it's sad because I've seen
Speaker 3: some of the greatest trains. I find it fascinating, and
Speaker 3: I've seen the systems and how they work, and the
Speaker 3: bullet trains they call them, I guess, and they go
Speaker 3: unbelievably fast, unbelievably comfortable, with no problems, and we don't
Speaker 3: have anything like that in this country, not even close.
Speaker 3: And it doesn't make sense that we don't. Doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think also like that there's you know, just
Speaker 2: I'm kind of hopping on the excess regulation. But I
Speaker 2: think something that I think people can generally understand is
Speaker 2: that what happens with laws and regulations is that they
Speaker 2: just there's more and more of them every year, and
Speaker 2: unless there's a process to clean them up, eventually everything
Speaker 2: becomes legal, and that actually it slows down the development
Speaker 2: and new technologies. I mean, if you take the sort
Speaker 2: of like I think we this this this room for
Speaker 2: some reform at the at the FDA, for improving the
Speaker 2: speed with which we approve drugs that that could help
Speaker 2: save lives and improve people's lives.
Speaker 3: And I worked very hard on that. You know, we
Speaker 3: got that down to the lowest number ever and we
Speaker 3: got therapeutics approved in the FDA that people can't even
Speaker 3: believe the speed. But I took them on. I don't
Speaker 3: think they liked me too much, but I got things
Speaker 3: approved and the FDA at numbers that they wouldn't believe.
Speaker 3: And you know, it's a very bureaucratic group. Actually it's
Speaker 3: a fine group of people. In many cases. I got
Speaker 3: to know a lot of them, but I was pushing
Speaker 3: them really hard for Regeneron, for so many different things
Speaker 3: that were really pretty amazing. But the FDA takes too long.
Speaker 3: They would it's twelve years to get a product approved.
Speaker 3: I got it down to four, and I got some
Speaker 3: things done very quickly. But it's it's really something that
Speaker 3: is going to have to be worked on because it
Speaker 3: takes too long. Just takes too long.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just takes too long, and it's you end
Speaker 2: up in the same with the approval. But it just
Speaker 2: it's just, you know, it takes years instead of something
Speaker 2: that that I think could potentially take months, that improves
Speaker 2: people's lives, I think, you know, and and but I
Speaker 2: just wanted to hop on this point that like there
Speaker 2: has to be an active process for reducing rules and regulations,
Speaker 2: because otherwise they just keep building up every year to
Speaker 2: get like hardening of the arteries, and eventually everything's illegal
Speaker 2: or takes forever. And then and then we we we
Speaker 2: just we just ossify as a society. We just uh,
Speaker 2: we can't make any progress. And and that's it's a
Speaker 2: really big you know, I'm.
Speaker 3: Just getting back to the FDA for one second. I
Speaker 3: got something dead called right to try. This is where
Speaker 3: you can go in and if you're terminally ill, you
Speaker 3: can use a space age uh you know, medicine or
Speaker 3: whatever it may be. We have the best doctors, the
Speaker 3: best labs in the world, we really do. And but
Speaker 3: people would go to other countries because you couldn't use
Speaker 3: this the product even if they thought it worked. Because
Speaker 3: it's going through the FDA. I got it approved where
Speaker 3: you can you basically, look, nobody wanted the doctors didn't
Speaker 3: want it because of the liability. The country didn't want it,
Speaker 3: our country because they didn't want to get to it.
Speaker 3: These are people terminally ill. The insurance companies didn't want it,
Speaker 3: and the pharmaceutical companies nobody wanted it. I got everybody
Speaker 3: into a room and we came up with an agreement
Speaker 3: that you won't get sued. And also they didn't want
Speaker 3: it on their record. If somebody's erminally ill and they
Speaker 3: die after taking a drug, they didn't want that on
Speaker 3: their record. So we set a second a separate list
Speaker 3: if somebody was so it wouldn't count as the negative. Okay,
Speaker 3: And as you know, we got it done. We have
Speaker 3: saved right to try. They've been trying to get this
Speaker 3: done for fifty eight years and it sounds simple, but
Speaker 3: it wasn't because you know, I mean, you know, the
Speaker 3: insurance companies nobody wanted it, but we got it done.
Speaker 3: Somebody signs, you signed a document that you're not going
Speaker 3: to sue the insurance companies of the country, you're not
Speaker 3: going to sue anybody, and we got it done, and
Speaker 3: we're saving tens of thousands of lives right to try.
Speaker 3: Hopefully you never need it, but if you do, you
Speaker 3: don't have to travel to Asia. You know, people if
Speaker 3: they had money, they go to Asia, they go to Europe.
Speaker 3: If they don't have money, they go home and die.
Speaker 3: That's what happened. They'd go home and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, well, I mean and actually, to give Europe
Speaker 2: some props here, it's like, if a drug is improved
Speaker 2: approved in the in the in Europe, which has a
Speaker 2: crazy amount of regulations, it should obviously be approved in
Speaker 2: the US. I mean, they got more regulations than we do.
Speaker 2: So what why would a drug be approved in Europe
Speaker 2: and not in the US. That's that's crazy.
Speaker 3: Well we did it. We did something that really they've
Speaker 3: been trying to do it for fifty years then they
Speaker 3: just couldn't get it done. And I got it done.
Speaker 3: And it's, uh, it's really something. But you're right, some
Speaker 3: people go to Europe because a drug isn't approved here,
Speaker 3: but it's approved in Europe and it's a drug that
Speaker 3: generally speaking would work. It's pretty crazy, absolutely right.
Speaker 2: And I think so as long as people are properly
Speaker 2: informed of the pros and cons and like that these
Speaker 2: are the risks. There's you know, there's the risk and
Speaker 2: like you make your own decisions.
Speaker 1: That makes sense.
Speaker 3: Well, I think just you know, in sort of closing up,
Speaker 3: and by the way, I'm looking at the numbers, you
Speaker 3: get a lot of people listening. I hope you don't
Speaker 3: get nervous because you got a lot of people listening
Speaker 3: to you right now, like sixty million or something. What
Speaker 3: is that number? It's crazy, it's amazing how you can
Speaker 3: see that right away. How many? What is the number? Wow?
Speaker 3: What is it?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 3: I think that's a big that's bigger than you said.
Speaker 3: You said twenty five and you're more than much more
Speaker 3: than double that number twenty five million. I think you're
Speaker 3: going to be sixty or seventy. And I guess over
Speaker 3: a period of time, Hey, that's I congratulate you. Do
Speaker 3: I get paid for this or not? Well?
Speaker 2: I think actually, in terms of the number of people
Speaker 2: that will will hear this conversation over the next a
Speaker 2: few days, two weeks, it's going to be one hundred, that's.
Speaker 3: What they say. Yeah, that's good. Well, look it's an honor.
Speaker 3: But I I just asked this, Are you better off now?
Speaker 3: Or well? You better off when I was president? Nobody's
Speaker 3: better off now. People, you know, we put out polls
Speaker 3: on that, and nobody's better off now. Inflation is killed it.
Speaker 3: And you know, they also feel very unsafe. You look
Speaker 3: at what's going on with a lot of different things.
Speaker 3: You look at the riots we had in the colleges
Speaker 3: over I mean, it's ridiculous, but all of the rights,
Speaker 3: they just feel unsafe. And now they really feel unsafe
Speaker 3: because you have a new form of crime. It's called
Speaker 3: migrant crime. I call it biden migrant Maybe I'll call
Speaker 3: it Kamala migrant crime.
Speaker 1: But you know, I mean it was with all these things.
Speaker 2: I always try to like try to get to the
Speaker 2: ground truth by just asking people.
Speaker 1: And you know, my mom lives in New York.
Speaker 2: And I was like, you know, Mom, you know, do
Speaker 2: you know have you any of your friends you know,
Speaker 2: been attacked orssaulted? And she said, yeah, three of her
Speaker 2: friends in three separate incidents, were assaulted just just just
Speaker 2: in recent months, just walking around the streets in New York.
Speaker 2: And and I and I said, well, did what what
Speaker 2: happened to the people that sold them?
Speaker 1: Oh? Nothing, that they got away, like and they're just.
Speaker 2: And they don't ever and that they don't even bother
Speaker 2: reporting it because there's not they know that there's not
Speaker 2: they're not going to you know, people can get prosecuted.
Speaker 1: They just they just let you know, violent criminals out
Speaker 1: in New York.
Speaker 3: The only one that gets prosecuted is Donald Trump. They
Speaker 3: don't get they prosecuted Trump.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's it's it's just obviously messed up,
Speaker 2: terrible if violent criminals are being are being getting off
Speaker 2: Scar three and meanwhile the New York spending massive resources
Speaker 2: prosecuting you, and it's like, what this, you know, And
Speaker 2: and I think the sort of sensible public said looks
Speaker 2: at this and said, what the heck's going on here?
Speaker 2: This is obviously abuse the legal system. You know, the
Speaker 2: legal system is supposed to be protecting the public from
Speaker 2: violent criminals, and it should be obviously allowing the public
Speaker 2: to make their own decision about who should be president,
Speaker 2: as opposed to you know, some you know legal case.
Speaker 3: Once they start this precedent, because this can go on
Speaker 3: with the next one. I mean, this is a very
Speaker 3: bad precedent what they're doing in terms of, you know,
Speaker 3: going after their political opponent. And that's all it is.
Speaker 3: It's going on after their political opponent. And then you
Speaker 3: get a judge who's, you know, a strong Democrat and
Speaker 3: I'm being nice when I say that in many cases
Speaker 3: crooked as hell. But you get a judge and you
Speaker 3: go into an area where a Republican gets three or
Speaker 3: four percent of the vote, and you know you'll have
Speaker 3: a jury pool with people that hate Republicans or hate
Speaker 3: It could also be the other way, though, because it
Speaker 3: could start the other way areas where they hate Democrats
Speaker 3: and you get into a Pandora's box. Is a very
Speaker 3: dangerous thing for this country and a very dangerous thing
Speaker 3: even for the state. New York City is losing. New
Speaker 3: York City and State lose a lot of business over
Speaker 3: what they did to me, because these people say, we
Speaker 3: don't want that to happen to us. That's no justice system.
Speaker 3: You have an unfair system of justice. And it's costing
Speaker 3: New York State a tremendous amount of money. People are
Speaker 3: leaving and companies are leaving and they won't come back.
Speaker 3: So you know, all of that stuff is important, But
Speaker 3: the economy now is the big thing. And we can
Speaker 3: turn that economy up so fast and people are going
Speaker 3: to be back again. We're going to get rid of this.
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of opportunity right.
Speaker 3: Absolutely so, And I just want to I want to
Speaker 3: congratulate you. You've done an amazing job. You are You
Speaker 3: have definitely got a fertile mind. You know, we can
Speaker 3: talk to you and I can talk about rockets.
Speaker 1: Kind of you to say thanks.
Speaker 3: Tunnels. We can talk about tunnels and rockets and and uh,
Speaker 3: electric cars, so many things. And now you're you're into
Speaker 3: the AI and that's going to be another beauty I'll say.
Speaker 3: So it's it's an amazing it's an amazing thing you've done. Elan,
Speaker 3: it's an amazing thing. And I congratulate you.
Speaker 2: I mean, thank you well, I mean I just to
Speaker 2: say here, you know, here's too an exciting, inspiring future
Speaker 2: that people can look forward to and be optimistic and
Speaker 2: excited about what happens next. And that's the kind of
Speaker 2: future that I think you will bring as president. And
Speaker 2: that's why I endorse you.
Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate that that endorsement meant a lot to me.
Speaker 3: Not all endorsements mean that much, to be honest, your
Speaker 3: endorsement meant a lot. And you know, we have a phrase,
Speaker 3: make America great again. It's pretty simple, but it really
Speaker 3: and we want to make America ingredient and we can
Speaker 3: do it. We can do it now. But if we
Speaker 3: were going to suffer another four years like we suffered
Speaker 3: for the last four years, I'm not sure the country
Speaker 3: can ever come back. That's how bad it is. It's
Speaker 3: so bad we have to we have to do.
Speaker 1: I think that's a very real rus.
Speaker 3: It's a big risk.
Speaker 2: It's a very real risk, and it's you know, I'd
Speaker 2: just like to note to people listening, like, I've not
Speaker 2: been very political before, and if just if you look
Speaker 2: at my record, it's I've actually been I'm not like
Speaker 2: I try to paint me as like a far right guy,
Speaker 2: which is absurd because I like making electric pickles and
Speaker 2: you know, solar and Baptists helping them with the environment,
Speaker 2: and uh and and I actually I I uh, you know,
Speaker 2: I supported Obama. I stood in line for six hours
Speaker 2: to shake Obama's hand when when he was running for president.
Speaker 2: And you know, so it's not like I'm like some
Speaker 2: sort of died in the world long term Republican. I'm
Speaker 2: actually I call myself, uh, you know, historically a moderate Democrat.
Speaker 2: But now I feel like we're really at a critical
Speaker 2: juncture for the country. And uh, you know, I think
Speaker 2: a lot of people thought, you know, that Biden administration
Speaker 2: would be a moderate administration, but it's not.
Speaker 1: And and obviously that we're just going to see and.
Speaker 2: Even further left UH administration with with Kamala. That's that's
Speaker 2: my honest opinion. I mean her dad, it's literally, I
Speaker 2: mean she was brought up as a as an actual
Speaker 2: her dad is a is a Marxist economist.
Speaker 1: That's you can google it. I mean, it's not a
Speaker 1: we're not making this up, you know, that's how she
Speaker 1: was brought up.
Speaker 2: So and and we we just we want to have
Speaker 2: a future that is prosperous. And and I think we're
Speaker 2: just at this critical juncture. And and I think this
Speaker 2: is a case of the America is king of at
Speaker 2: a fork in the road, and.
Speaker 1: And I think it will take. It will take.
Speaker 2: If the path, like you are, the path to prosperity,
Speaker 2: and I think Kamala is the up it, then that's
Speaker 2: I mean, that's myst opinion.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm a get attacked like crazy.
Speaker 2: And you know, I've also experienced quite a bit of
Speaker 2: lowfair myself, and but I'm just trying to tell people
Speaker 2: my honest opinion. And I haven't been active and really
Speaker 2: active in politics before, and I'm just trying to point
Speaker 2: out that my track record historically has been moderate, if
Speaker 2: not moderate, slightly left and and so this is the
Speaker 2: people out there who are in the moderate camp to say,
Speaker 2: I think you should support Donald Trump for president. And
Speaker 2: I think it's actually a very important junction in the road,
Speaker 2: and we're a deep trouble if if if it goes the.
Speaker 3: Other way, well, I want to thank you. And you know,
Speaker 3: I actually always did think of you as somewhat left.
Speaker 3: I must say that. So it's it's even more of
Speaker 3: an honor to have your endorsement. I know how strong
Speaker 3: you feel about it. But you know, when you think
Speaker 3: of her San Francisco fifteen years I had a great friend,
Speaker 3: Bob Tis. She said, it's the greatest city in America,
Speaker 3: and now it's it's almost not livable there. And California,
Speaker 3: you likewise, and she was involved in the destruction of
Speaker 3: San Francisco and the destruction of California, and she will
Speaker 3: be involved in the destruction of our country if people
Speaker 3: are so unwise as to elect her. And I hope
Speaker 3: that doesn't happen. And I hope the elections are going
Speaker 3: to be run honestly, and we're going to turn this
Speaker 3: country around. We're going to do things that and we
Speaker 3: can do it fairly quickly, and we have to get
Speaker 3: rid of the criminals that have been given to us
Speaker 3: by other countries. As they laugh, They laugh at us.
Speaker 3: They think we're stupid to accept these people. These are
Speaker 3: radical stone cold killers in many cases, and terrorists, and
Speaker 3: they're in our country by the hundreds of thousands. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and we have to take them out. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, if I could summarize it, perhaps, you know,
Speaker 2: I think these are issues that I think most people
Speaker 2: in America would agree with, which is that we want
Speaker 2: safe and clean cities, we want secure borders, we want
Speaker 2: sensible government spending. We want to restore both the perception
Speaker 2: and reality of respect in the in the in the
Speaker 2: judicial system, you know, stop the lawfare. And and I
Speaker 2: think that that's like and how are the how are
Speaker 2: those even right wing positions? I think those are just said,
Speaker 2: that's that's just common sense, and that's uh, I mean,
Speaker 2: would you agree with that.
Speaker 3: I don't understand, you know, the whole they call it progressive.
Speaker 3: They don't like the word liberal anymore, but call it
Speaker 3: liberal or progressive. I don't understand how somebody could say
Speaker 3: that it's okay for them to empty prisons into our country.
Speaker 3: And again, I told you their crime rates all over
Speaker 3: the world are going way down, which makes sense. The
Speaker 3: fact the next time, what we'll do is, if something
Speaker 3: happens with this election, which would be a horror show,
Speaker 3: we'll meet the next time in Venezuela because it'll be
Speaker 3: a far safer place to meet than our country. Okay,
Speaker 3: so we'll go, You and I will go and we'll
Speaker 3: have a meeting and dinner in Venezuela. Because that's what's happening.
Speaker 3: Their crime rates coming down and our crime rates going
Speaker 3: through the roof. And it's so simple, and you haven't
Speaker 3: seen anything yet because these people have come into our
Speaker 3: country and they're just getting acclimated and they don't know
Speaker 3: about being politically correct law enforcement or lack of law enforcement,
Speaker 3: and our police. I have to just end with this.
Speaker 3: We have great police, we have great law enforcement, but
Speaker 3: they're not allowed to do their job. They have to
Speaker 3: be able to do their job without being destroyed.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and it's obviously demoralizing if you're a police officer
Speaker 2: risking your life to you know, to you know, to
Speaker 2: arrest violent criminals who could kill you and do kill
Speaker 2: you sometimes, and then you arrest the violent criminal and
Speaker 2: then the the DA you know, doesn't prosecute and that's
Speaker 2: let the guy out. Well, and like, why why should
Speaker 2: a police officer risk their life to arrest a violent talent?
Speaker 1: Well, nothing going to happen.
Speaker 3: Even worse, they prosecute the police officer. They go after it,
Speaker 3: and they prosecute the police officer, and they take away
Speaker 3: his pension, they take away his job, He loses his family,
Speaker 3: he loses his house.
Speaker 1: Well, I thought it was very telling, like incredibly telling
Speaker 1: that you know, when that there was a case where, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, sort of a gang of thugs beat up
Speaker 1: police officers.
Speaker 2: I think it was in Times Square in New York
Speaker 2: and and and then nothing happened to.
Speaker 1: Those guys there.
Speaker 2: They were let out zero bail, and I think bunchmen
Speaker 2: were given free tickets to California. Well, what is the
Speaker 2: I mean that that is that is a that is
Speaker 2: a gross indignity against the United States. And and that's
Speaker 2: how I mean this is insane, Like have we lost
Speaker 2: all pride?
Speaker 1: What that? How can such a thing be allowed to occur?
Speaker 3: I've never seen anything you know, we see where they
Speaker 3: get shot. It's a very dangerous profession, but something they're
Speaker 3: very proud of and they want to be able to
Speaker 3: do their job. But I've seen them get shot. I've
Speaker 3: seen a lot of things, but I've never seen where
Speaker 3: these guys are standing in the middle of a big street,
Speaker 3: everybody watching them, and they're literally boxing, like punching, stand
Speaker 3: up fighting a police officers. There are two of them
Speaker 3: and yet about six of these guys and they're punching
Speaker 3: the hell out of them. And in their own country,
Speaker 3: they would be dead if they did that, they'd be shot.
Speaker 3: They would be shot instantly. And you know, they come
Speaker 3: from these countries and it's taking them a while to
Speaker 3: realize that we don't do that in this country. But
Speaker 3: in their own country, if they stood on a street
Speaker 3: and had a fight with a police officer, they would
Speaker 3: be shot. There's no political correctness, and it's such a
Speaker 3: sad it's such a sad thing to see. And that's
Speaker 3: the reason you have time, by the way, because we
Speaker 3: don't do anything about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we just cannot have a situation where our police
Speaker 2: officers be beaten up on camera by you know, a
Speaker 2: gang of legal immigrants and then nothing happens to the
Speaker 2: guys that beat up the cops, I mean, and they're
Speaker 2: let out.
Speaker 3: This is well, we're going to change it, and we're
Speaker 3: going to get them out of the country. You know,
Speaker 3: when I first got involved, they said, you couldn't get
Speaker 3: them back to these countries. You couldn't take them back.
Speaker 3: In the case of Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, some others,
Speaker 3: you couldn't get it back. And I said, really, oh,
Speaker 3: you can't get it back because under Obama he couldn't
Speaker 3: get him back. They put up they'd fly them in,
Speaker 3: and they put planes on the runways in these countries
Speaker 3: so he couldn't land the plane. They'd bring them back.
Speaker 3: And the general told me. The generals told me, sure,
Speaker 3: we can't bring them back. The countries won't accept MS
Speaker 3: thirteen gang members. They won't accept them. And I said, really,
Speaker 3: how much do we pay these various countries in terms
Speaker 3: of economic aid, which is also somewhat ridiculous, And the
Speaker 3: answer was seven hundred and fifty million dollars. They said, good,
Speaker 3: tell them they're in default, that delinquent. We're not going
Speaker 3: to do. We're not paying them anymore because they won't
Speaker 3: accept there. And you know what happened. They all called me,
Speaker 3: one of them. They said, we would be honored to
Speaker 3: take them back, sir. We would be honored. They was
Speaker 3: so easy. But it's one of those things. And we
Speaker 3: got it back. We took in so many, you know,
Speaker 3: MS thirteen is probably the worst gangs in the world.
Speaker 3: They're the most vicious violence. We took them out of
Speaker 3: here by the thousands and got them out out of here,
Speaker 3: and their countries took them back. And because I said,
Speaker 3: you're not getting any more economic aid. And once I
Speaker 3: said that they were nice, they wouldn't take them back
Speaker 3: for Obama. They wouldn't take them back for anybody. And
Speaker 3: now we have a problem because we have this guy
Speaker 3: and they again they don't take him back anymore with
Speaker 3: the Biden because they don't respect him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's so, it's just it's just gotta it's
Speaker 1: just gotta be done.
Speaker 2: We just can't can't have uh, whether they're citizens or
Speaker 2: not citizens, we can't have because they weren't prosecuted citizens
Speaker 2: either not not just not just legals. So uh, they
Speaker 2: if it's you can't have violent repeat violent defenders that
Speaker 2: are not that that that don't get incosts rates because
Speaker 2: they will they will obviously by definition, can continue to
Speaker 2: uh to uh, you know.
Speaker 1: Hurt people.
Speaker 2: And and and I think where part of this comes
Speaker 2: from is that this and you know, I do sort
Speaker 2: of consider myself liberal and some way. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: just that you want to have empathy for people. Obviously,
Speaker 2: you want to have empathy for people. I totally agree
Speaker 2: with that. You want to have empathy, but you also
Speaker 2: have to have empathy for the victims of the criminals.
Speaker 2: And if you just have empathy for the criminals, it's
Speaker 2: actually shallow empathy. It's not real. You're not thinking, you know,
Speaker 2: you have one layer deep empathy. You've got to say, like,
Speaker 2: what if you don't incarcerate this person, who are they
Speaker 2: going to.
Speaker 1: Hurt? Who?
Speaker 2: They might kill someone, they rape someone if you don't
Speaker 2: incarcerate them, you have to have empathy for the victims.
Speaker 2: And there's a lack of empathy for the victims of
Speaker 2: the criminals and too much empathy for the criminals. It
Speaker 2: doesn't make sense. That's why you want to have deep
Speaker 2: empathy for society as a whole, not shallow empathy for criminals.
Speaker 3: And we have to give our police officers the dignity
Speaker 3: and the respect that they deserve, and we have to
Speaker 3: let them do their job that they can do a
Speaker 3: great job. But we have to let them do their job.
Speaker 3: And if we don't do that, you know, it's going
Speaker 3: to all disappear. There's never been a society like this
Speaker 3: where you're allowed to do anything you want and nothing happens.
Speaker 3: And I'm talking about violent crime, and it's going to
Speaker 3: get more violent because these are really really violent people.
Speaker 3: And we're going to get them out of our country
Speaker 3: and we're going to get them back to where because
Speaker 3: they were sent here by the presidents and by the
Speaker 3: various people that run those countries. And I know every
Speaker 3: one of those guys, and they're smart people, and they're
Speaker 3: street wise people, and they really think that the USA
Speaker 3: is stupid. They think we're run by stupid people, and
Speaker 3: they happen to be right. But when I was there,
Speaker 3: we had no problem. We got them out. We took
Speaker 3: out thousands of MS thirteen gang members, we brought them back.
Speaker 3: And now again they it's the same old story, we
Speaker 3: don't do it. And they actually gave them a big
Speaker 3: increase in a they raised it up to billions of
Speaker 3: dollars and they get nothing for it. So you know,
Speaker 3: it's it's I hope everybody's going to vote for Trump
Speaker 3: and we're going to get this country. I didn't need this.
Speaker 3: I'm like you, I didn't need this. I had a
Speaker 3: very nice life. I didn't need to go through court
Speaker 3: systems and go through all the other stuff and run.
Speaker 3: At the same time I have to run, I have
Speaker 3: to go through fake trials with in some cases corrupt judges,
Speaker 3: totally corrupt judges. I didn't need it. I had a
Speaker 3: nice life. I have great locations. I have beautiful oceans
Speaker 3: that I have places. You know this was but I
Speaker 3: felt it was important and if I had if I
Speaker 3: had to do it over again, you probably think I'm
Speaker 3: crazy for doing it. Actually, but if I had to
Speaker 3: do it over again, I would have done it over
Speaker 3: again because this is so much more important than me
Speaker 3: or my life. This is we're going to save this country.
Speaker 3: This country is going down, and these people are bad
Speaker 3: people that were running against and their liars. They make statements,
Speaker 3: they they do things that are so bad. They they
Speaker 3: say they're going to make a strong border. They say
Speaker 3: they've been great on the border, and they've been the
Speaker 3: worst in history. They say they're going to stop trying.
Speaker 2: Incredible speak like it's got to the point where where
Speaker 2: people just don't even bother reporting crime and a lot
Speaker 2: of sture because they know nothing that's going to happen.
Speaker 2: You know, That's what I hear anecdotally from from people
Speaker 2: all the time.
Speaker 1: So you know, it's just you know, my values.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying to people out there, like my you know,
Speaker 2: the things I think are bordant for the future. Is like,
Speaker 2: we've got to have safe cities, We're gonna have secure borders.
Speaker 1: We've got to have sense ful spending.
Speaker 2: And we have and we've got to have you know,
Speaker 2: deregulation and so we can have a prosperous future. And
Speaker 2: then we want to have some exciting, you know, sort
Speaker 2: of moonshot projects that that people can get fired up about.
Speaker 2: And you know, that's that's the future I'm looking for.
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm pro environment, but but I'm not
Speaker 2: against uh you know, I'm not like, I don't think
Speaker 2: we should vilify the oil and gas industry because they're
Speaker 2: they're keeping civilization going right now and h but I
Speaker 2: do think we want to move you know, you know,
Speaker 2: a reasonable speed towards uh sustainable energy comany. Those those
Speaker 2: are my values and and and I think you know,
Speaker 2: and and so I mean that's why I'm supporting you
Speaker 2: for president.
Speaker 3: You know, well, I appreciate we're gonna make We're gonna
Speaker 3: give incentive to companies to come into our country, not
Speaker 3: to leave our country. We're gonna be be giving tremendous incentives.
Speaker 3: We want companies to build here, not to build in
Speaker 3: other locations, and we want to create jobs. And again,
Speaker 3: it's about the American dream. You don't hear about the
Speaker 3: American dream anymore. Eland, you don't hear you're the American dream,
Speaker 3: and the truth says, but you don't hear about the
Speaker 3: American dream anymore. And you're gonna hear about it. People
Speaker 3: they need that incentive to go out and do it.
Speaker 3: And they're gonna love their lives. I mean, they're gonna
Speaker 3: love They're gonna look forward to getting up in the
Speaker 3: morning and going to you know, going to a job
Speaker 3: that they love, not a job that they can't stand,
Speaker 3: or not any job at all where they have no money,
Speaker 3: where they literally have no money, and then they end
Speaker 3: up with violence and lots of other problems. Now we're
Speaker 3: gonna do We're gonna do some great things. And I
Speaker 3: learned a lot in the first we had a great
Speaker 3: economy and all of that. We rebuilt, the military did
Speaker 3: so much. But I also learned, and I also learned
Speaker 3: the best people. I learned, the good people, the smart people,
Speaker 3: the dumb people, the people that can do things, the
Speaker 3: people you know you learn. When I first came in,
Speaker 3: I tell people I was in Washington, d C. Only
Speaker 3: seventeen times. According to the fake news media, I was
Speaker 3: in seventeen times. I never stayed over. And you don't
Speaker 3: know people. You rely on other people to give your names,
Speaker 3: and then you realize the people you rely to it
Speaker 3: weren't so good. Now we had great people, but we
Speaker 3: also had somewhere I wouldn't have, you know, used them
Speaker 3: had I know now, I know everybody, and I think
Speaker 3: we're going to really turn things around. Face we have
Speaker 3: no choice, otherwise we're not going to have a country.
Speaker 3: And I really appreciate this has been to me. It's
Speaker 3: been a lot of fun being with you. You're an amazing guy.
Speaker 3: You've done an incredible job and a great inspiration to people,
Speaker 3: a great inspiration. And I hope you keep going and
Speaker 3: just continue to do well. And we're going to have
Speaker 3: a big election coming up, and I think November fifth
Speaker 3: will be the most important day in the history of
Speaker 3: our country. I think that election will be the most
Speaker 3: important election, and I think it'll end up being maybe
Speaker 3: the most important day in the history of our country,
Speaker 3: because if we don't win, I just feel so sorry
Speaker 3: for everybody.
Speaker 2: No, we're I think we're at a folk in the
Speaker 2: road of destiny of civilization, and I think we need
Speaker 2: to take the right path, and I think you're the
Speaker 2: right path.
Speaker 1: So I think that's where it comes down to.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Elon. It's a great honor and
Speaker 3: we'll we'll do it again sometime. And it's been really fun.
Speaker 3: And I hope you've got a lot of viewers. I
Speaker 3: hear you got a lot, but I hope, I know
Speaker 3: you've got a lot of them, so I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: I'll see you soon, all right, sounds good. Thank you,
Speaker 3: thank you, Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: Bye.