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So 10 00:00:29,679 --> 00:00:34,079 Democrats up in Raleigh in the state legislature, they very 11 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:40,039 much wanted to vote for House Bill eighth five, which 12 00:00:40,079 --> 00:00:44,240 would the short title of this legislation was Prevent Sexual 13 00:00:44,399 --> 00:00:50,159 Exploitation of Women and minors. But they would not vote 14 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,479 for it because it defined what a woman is. 15 00:00:56,679 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: Well and men too, and mothers and fathers. 16 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:03,119 Speaker 2: And then there was also stuff about not you know, 17 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,719 getting access to porn in the school libraries, and they 18 00:01:06,719 --> 00:01:09,640 were they didn't like that. They think you should be 19 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,319 able to have your kid exposed to that sort of stuff, 20 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,840 and they didn't like the fact that, you know, people 21 00:01:14,879 --> 00:01:18,200 would be able to look up what school libraries may 22 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:22,760 be stocking on the shelves. They wanted that restricted only 23 00:01:22,799 --> 00:01:26,680 to parents or guardians of students at every particular school. 24 00:01:27,079 --> 00:01:30,120 So this way nobody outside of the of the PTA 25 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,400 basically would be able to see the kinds of books 26 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:34,879 that the libraries are offering. 27 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,239 Speaker 1: But other than that, they were like, we are for 28 00:01:39,359 --> 00:01:41,319 this bill. Now. 29 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 2: The Republicans, for their part, they too engaged in some 30 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:53,319 political mechanisms here or machinations I should say, they. 31 00:01:53,159 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: Did well, it's not quite. 32 00:01:55,319 --> 00:01:59,319 Speaker 2: You may have heard this term gut and replace, and 33 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,840 I don't like the term, mainly for marketing and branding purposes. 34 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,640 I prefer gutt and stuff. Just sounds funnier and better. 35 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,599 And it's the same thing where you know, on the 36 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,759 legislative calendar, the House and the Senate, they run their 37 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,439 own bills, they debate them, they pass them, and they 38 00:02:17,479 --> 00:02:19,240 have to meet a deadline, and then all of the 39 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,319 bills from the House have to have crossed over to 40 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,159 the Senate, and all the Senate bills have to have 41 00:02:23,159 --> 00:02:26,319 crossed over to the House. They call that crossover. And 42 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,479 so there's and that's already passed, that was like a 43 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,960 month or so ago. And then the idea is that 44 00:02:32,199 --> 00:02:36,560 nothing after that crossover deadline can move through because otherwise, 45 00:02:36,759 --> 00:02:39,080 you know, you would have a legislative session that never ends, 46 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:44,719 unlike our current legislative calendar where sometimes the calendar never ends. 47 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:51,000 So the crossover deadline is meant to restrain legislative sessions, 48 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:52,680 the length of the sessions. 49 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: And so what for decades the legislature has. 50 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 2: Done is any bill that has crossed over and the 51 00:03:03,319 --> 00:03:07,000 other chamber now wants to do something else, but they 52 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:11,159 didn't make the crossover. They will, they will gut an 53 00:03:11,199 --> 00:03:14,879 existing bill and then they will stuff something else into it. 54 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:21,479 Speaker 1: This is how I believe it was the the. 55 00:03:20,719 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: Regulation and inspections of abortion clinics in North Carolina. That's 56 00:03:25,159 --> 00:03:28,840 how that bill passed. It was a motorcycle safety bill. 57 00:03:29,319 --> 00:03:31,759 It had come over from maybe from the House over 58 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,639 to the Senate or vice versa, it doesn't matter. It 59 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:39,000 was a motorcycle safety bill. And then they stuffed a 60 00:03:39,039 --> 00:03:46,080 bunch of rules on inspecting abortion clinics because under Democrat 61 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:50,319 administrations they really weren't interested in inspecting abortion clinics to 62 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,639 see if they met like bare minimum standards of for example, 63 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:59,439 veterinarians clinics. They right, they had a higher they had 64 00:03:59,439 --> 00:04:03,599 a higher and inspection regime and standard for for vets 65 00:04:04,479 --> 00:04:08,360 than they did for abortion centers, and so when the 66 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,240 Republicans came along, they were like, yeah, you know what, 67 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:14,919 we're going to make sure these are actually like hygienic facilities. 68 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: Outrage ensued. The left called them all. 69 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: Sorts, called this legislation all sorts of disgust and grotesque 70 00:04:21,639 --> 00:04:25,319 names because that's what they do, and they're very you know, 71 00:04:25,399 --> 00:04:29,759 focused on anatomy and genitalia for some reason. I don't 72 00:04:29,759 --> 00:04:31,959 know if that I'm not sure if that comes with 73 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,839 like when you sign up to be a Democrat, like 74 00:04:33,879 --> 00:04:36,439 that's like they give you a rule book or something, 75 00:04:36,519 --> 00:04:39,360 and they give you all of these arguments in the 76 00:04:39,439 --> 00:04:44,000 vocabulary to make things, you know, gross. But anyway, so 77 00:04:44,199 --> 00:04:48,680 that that was an example. But you don't necessarily have 78 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,600 to gut the legislation in order to stuff it right. 79 00:04:52,639 --> 00:04:53,879 Speaker 1: You don't. It's not required. 80 00:04:54,319 --> 00:04:57,319 Speaker 2: So that's what the Republicans did with House Built eight 81 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:03,240 oh five. They didn't gut the Prevention of Sexual Exploitation 82 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,920 of Women and miners. They did not gut that part 83 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,839 of it. They kept it. They just added stuff to it. 84 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:14,279 So the Democrats were in favor initially of the original 85 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:19,199 bill preventing the sexual exploitation of women and miners. And 86 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,240 I have the bill and it went from about I 87 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,759 don't know, four pages to eight pages, so it's a 88 00:05:25,879 --> 00:05:30,439 very like there's a lot of additional legislation that they 89 00:05:30,519 --> 00:05:36,600 stuffed in here, but under the bill, this is aimed 90 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:46,079 at preventing online porn that is using underage models or performers. 91 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,399 They got to get consent, They have to prove that 92 00:05:48,399 --> 00:05:52,879 they're over the age of eighteen. They got age verification obligations. 93 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,000 You have to have explicit written evidence of consent for 94 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:01,000 each act of sexual activity in which the individual engage 95 00:06:01,079 --> 00:06:05,000 during the creation of the pornographic image. This also gets 96 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:09,199 at the revenge porn stuff. It gets at my wife 97 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,240 and I we were on a road trip recently and 98 00:06:11,319 --> 00:06:14,439 we were listening to I think his name is Jordan Harbinger, 99 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,720 and he had this whole interview with somebody about like 100 00:06:19,759 --> 00:06:23,879 the porn industry, porn hubs specifically, which is apparently just 101 00:06:24,079 --> 00:06:28,600 like trafficking. It's like a human trafficking hub. And you 102 00:06:28,639 --> 00:06:33,160 have all of these I guess users upload stuff to 103 00:06:33,399 --> 00:06:37,680 the site, and then other users will will download those 104 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,839 videos and then re upload them, and so it creates 105 00:06:40,879 --> 00:06:49,079 this constant content populating of the of the website, and 106 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,279 then porn hub will say stuff like, well, we didn't 107 00:06:51,319 --> 00:06:54,040 have anything to do with that. That's just user created content, 108 00:06:54,199 --> 00:07:00,160 you know. So now this bill is trying to get 109 00:07:00,199 --> 00:07:05,720 some of these practices like online entity operators shall obtain 110 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,240 all of the following from the user or entity seeking 111 00:07:10,279 --> 00:07:14,800 to publish the images. Okay, so that's talking about the platform, 112 00:07:14,839 --> 00:07:17,680 the website you're going to have to get. You are 113 00:07:17,839 --> 00:07:21,120 you shall obtain, So there's no may This is a mandate. 114 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,959 You shall obtain written consent from each individual appearing in 115 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:30,160 the image, and that consent has to also include the name, 116 00:07:30,399 --> 00:07:33,879 date of birth, and signature of the individual, proof that 117 00:07:33,959 --> 00:07:38,279 they are over the age of eighteen, a statement that 118 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,600 the consent is for also not just the acts, but 119 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:46,800 also the distribution of the specific images, a statement that 120 00:07:46,879 --> 00:07:50,800 explains coerced consent, and that the individual has the right 121 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:55,199 the right to withdraw their consent at any time. So 122 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,120 if you are, you know, nineteen years old, you do 123 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,199 one of these videos or something, and then you know, 124 00:08:01,279 --> 00:08:03,519 fast forward ten years and you're like, I want this 125 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,279 stuff taken down, you would have the ability to get 126 00:08:06,279 --> 00:08:10,160 it taken down, and you got to have a valid 127 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:14,800 form of identification for each individual appearing in the images. 128 00:08:15,759 --> 00:08:18,279 Speaker 1: That's the that's on the platform. 129 00:08:19,439 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 2: An online entity operator, that's what they keep calling it, 130 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,759 shall establish a procedure for removing a pornographic image from 131 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,399 the online entity at the request of a person and 132 00:08:31,519 --> 00:08:35,559 designate one or more employees of the operator, so like 133 00:08:35,639 --> 00:08:39,919 a pornhub employee would have to be responsible for handling 134 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:46,440 requests for removal. An online operator shall display a prominently 135 00:08:46,639 --> 00:08:50,200 visible notice on the website or mobile app of the 136 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,519 online entity that provides instructions on how to request the 137 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,840 removal of those images. So on the homepage, you got 138 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,720 to have a big banner or something up there. That's like, 139 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,440 if you're on this site and you want to remove 140 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,000 content that shows you, here's where you click. And then 141 00:09:07,039 --> 00:09:11,320 the operator shall remove the pornographic image as quickly as possible, 142 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,080 and in any event, not later then seventy two hours 143 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,840 after receiving the request, so you got three days to 144 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:24,320 take it down. An online entity operator shall remove the 145 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,639 image temporarily if any question arises as to the consent 146 00:09:28,799 --> 00:09:32,879 of a performer. Because this was there was a big 147 00:09:32,919 --> 00:09:36,080 campaign again, this was from that podcast that we heard 148 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:40,120 where a mom was looking for her daughter and she 149 00:09:40,279 --> 00:09:43,840 was being trafficked, and it was somebody who sent her 150 00:09:44,919 --> 00:09:46,639 a link and said, I found your daughter. 151 00:09:46,759 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: She's on pornhub. 152 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,799 Speaker 2: And this mom then launched a crusade against Pornhub because 153 00:09:52,039 --> 00:09:57,679 Pornhub would not would not take down the images, and 154 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,559 they were like, oh, sorry, that's just user generated. We 155 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:05,039 didn't publish it. We can't do anything. 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It says a term 184 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,879 that means an individual self declared identity that may not 185 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,960 align with biological sex and being a subjective internal sense, 186 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,879 shall not be treated as legally or biologically equivalent to sex, 187 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:08,240 and that is accurate. That is accurate. It defines biological sex. 188 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,440 It defines a boy in case any lefties are listening, 189 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,320 that would be a minor human male. It defines a father, 190 00:12:16,879 --> 00:12:21,559 which as a male parent a female. It defines a girl. 191 00:12:21,639 --> 00:12:25,480 It defines male, It defines man, and it defines mother, 192 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,440 and it defines woman. And again, in case any of 193 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,080 our friends on the left do not know what a 194 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,039 woman is, it is an adult human female. And a 195 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,399 female is a term that, when used to refer to 196 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,879 a natural person, means a person belonging at conception to 197 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,799 the sex characterized by a reproductive system with the biological 198 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,879 function of producing ova or eggs. Okay, so now you know, 199 00:12:48,399 --> 00:12:50,039 because I know there are a lot of people who 200 00:12:50,039 --> 00:12:54,200 aren't biologists, like you know Supreme Court Justice Katanji Brown Jackson. 201 00:12:54,799 --> 00:12:59,919 And so now the North Carolina Republican lawmakers have helped 202 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:04,799 fully provided these definitions for everybody. They're really doing all 203 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,000 of us a service because it seems like so many 204 00:13:07,039 --> 00:13:12,240 Americans have become confused about things that the human species 205 00:13:12,279 --> 00:13:18,039 has known since the very beginning of time. So this 206 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:22,440 bill started off as a bill to prevent the exploitation 207 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,879 of women and miners, which you may ask yourself, well, 208 00:13:25,919 --> 00:13:29,440 how would democrats know that women are being exploited? Like 209 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,799 if you don't even know what a woman is and 210 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,360 you cannot define what a woman is, and then when 211 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,320 someone defines what it is and you object to that definition, 212 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,639 how could you be in support of a bill that 213 00:13:40,759 --> 00:13:47,480 seeks to eliminate the exploitation of women. It's all very confusing. 214 00:13:51,399 --> 00:13:54,600 This was a bipartisan bill, the XTU, the you know, 215 00:13:54,639 --> 00:13:58,840 the targeting of the exploitation of women and children. It 216 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:03,919 was initially bipartisan. Everybody supported it, but then it turned into, 217 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,480 as Paul Speck calls it, a political minefield. 218 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,799 Speaker 1: How for whom? For Democrats? 219 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 2: Yes, for Democrats it turned into a minefield, if you will, 220 00:14:14,759 --> 00:14:19,000 because they have become so insane on these topics. They 221 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,600 they cannot, will not. They refuse to define what a 222 00:14:22,639 --> 00:14:25,600 woman is because they don't want to offend, They don't 223 00:14:25,639 --> 00:14:28,799 want to alienate their base, they don't want to get 224 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:35,159 called names whatever, Like they cannot and I'm sorry, but like, 225 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,519 I am not going to be governed by the insane. 226 00:14:39,519 --> 00:14:43,840 I refuse, I refuse now if you come to me, 227 00:14:43,919 --> 00:14:46,399 and it's like look, if you come to me and say, hey, 228 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:50,879 my name is William, but I go by Bill, and 229 00:14:50,919 --> 00:14:53,480 then I will say okay, Bill, because I'm not trying 230 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,559 to be transgressive towards you, and that's not anything to 231 00:14:56,559 --> 00:14:58,960 do with gender identity. I'm trying not to offend. I'm 232 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,639 a nice person. I'll be polite, you know. So if 233 00:15:01,679 --> 00:15:04,039 you go by a certain name, I will call you 234 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:05,840 that name. I don't care. It doesn't matter to me 235 00:15:07,399 --> 00:15:12,200 because you're not governing me right now. If you tell 236 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:17,120 me that you have to call me Bill, and I 237 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,320 mess up or something and I call you William, or 238 00:15:20,399 --> 00:15:23,320 maybe I refuse to call anybody Bill because I believe 239 00:15:24,279 --> 00:15:27,600 that the only Bill that could ever be named Bill 240 00:15:27,919 --> 00:15:30,440 was my father, and so I refuse to give anybody 241 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,320 else that honorific And so I'm going to. 242 00:15:32,279 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: Call you William. 243 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,879 Speaker 2: And then if your response is well, if you don't 244 00:15:34,879 --> 00:15:38,240 call me Bill, I'm going to penalize you somehow. I'm 245 00:15:38,279 --> 00:15:40,919 going to like make you lose your job. I'm going 246 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,399 to give you a citation or something. If you're over 247 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,759 in like Germany and the UK, like you could be 248 00:15:47,879 --> 00:15:52,320 thrown in jail. So that's the difference. It's that you 249 00:15:52,399 --> 00:15:56,759 don't get to govern me, right, that's the bright line. 250 00:15:56,799 --> 00:16:00,320 There so a political minefield for Democrats. I would just 251 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:05,159 add four democrats because they've become insane on this issue. 252 00:16:05,519 --> 00:16:08,960 The State Senate passed a revised version of House pilatoh five, 253 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,559 which the House passed unanimously as an initiative to crack 254 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:16,480 down on the exploitation of women and children. Senate Republicans 255 00:16:16,519 --> 00:16:21,480 added several proposals to the bill that critics aka Democrats 256 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,480 and media but I repeat myself, derided as culture war 257 00:16:25,639 --> 00:16:32,279 issues intended to repel democrats. Now, look, I will say 258 00:16:32,639 --> 00:16:34,799 I never thought that we would have to define what 259 00:16:34,879 --> 00:16:39,480 a woman is in legislation, but thanks to the left, 260 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:44,960 we now have to. Right, y'all are the aggressors in 261 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:49,039 the culture war. This is the response. This is the reaction. 262 00:16:49,279 --> 00:16:52,320 This is people saying this is too far. Lefties, and 263 00:16:52,399 --> 00:16:55,200 I know a lot of lefties are never told that 264 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,679 you've gone too far, because in the lefty world, you 265 00:16:58,759 --> 00:16:59,840 can never go too far. 266 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: Everything is just forward. 267 00:17:02,679 --> 00:17:07,559 Speaker 2: To quote the Kami slogan, everything is just forward progress 268 00:17:08,319 --> 00:17:12,440 right towards the utopian vision of you know, one hundred 269 00:17:12,519 --> 00:17:16,079 million dead under communism, Like that's the whole focus. So 270 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,279 to the left, there is no too far. And so 271 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:23,920 when you have this response, they they can't believe, Well, what, 272 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,559 we're the moral and good ones here. We just care 273 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,480 about people, and you obviously don't, so you must be hitler. 274 00:17:30,559 --> 00:17:34,079 You know a number of Democrats attempted to vote present 275 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:39,440 on the bill rather than yes or no. You're actually 276 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,359 not allowed to do that. Though we're going to get 277 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,920 to this. I've got a bunch of audio. Listen to 278 00:17:44,079 --> 00:17:48,759 the entire like two plus hour debate on the Senate 279 00:17:48,799 --> 00:17:52,720 floor overall of this. So it started out as an 280 00:17:52,759 --> 00:17:57,279 anti exploitation bill, and then some stuff got added into it. 281 00:17:57,279 --> 00:17:59,359 I'll tell you what I got added into it, including 282 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:03,119 the definition of you know, male female, biological sex, and 283 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:04,400 gender identity. 284 00:18:04,519 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: That stuff gets added in there with a couple other provisions. 285 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,279 Speaker 2: You know, stories are powerful. They help us make sense 286 00:18:10,319 --> 00:18:13,759 of things, to understand experiences. Stories connect us to the 287 00:18:13,759 --> 00:18:16,880 people of our past while transcending generations. They help us 288 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,000 process the meaning of life, and our stories are told 289 00:18:20,079 --> 00:18:24,160 through images and videos. 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Right, So, 304 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,599 the North Carolina Senate added a bunch of new provisions 305 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:20,720 into an Anti Women and Minor Exploitation bill, which also 306 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,559 would have like huge daily penalties for you know these 307 00:19:24,599 --> 00:19:28,480 porn websites or if you're you're doing revenge porn, or 308 00:19:28,519 --> 00:19:32,880 you're taking pictures, or you're you're getting you know, kids 309 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,359 to send you pictures of themselves and then you threaten 310 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,599 to post it online and you blackmail them. So big 311 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,160 finds and stuff for these website operators and that sort 312 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,920 of stuff, and that had bipartisan support when it came 313 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,960 out of the House, but when the Senate got ahold 314 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,680 of it, they added some stuff. They added definitions, and 315 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:57,279 wr l's Paul spect he still can't he's I don't 316 00:19:57,319 --> 00:20:00,079 know if he doesn't know that, you know, gender and 317 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,559 or two different things according to the Left, because he says, 318 00:20:03,599 --> 00:20:08,759 define gender as two sexes. No, it's defining sex as 319 00:20:08,759 --> 00:20:12,279 male and female, because that's accurate. That's all there are. 320 00:20:12,519 --> 00:20:18,319 There are only two. The bill also bars state prisons 321 00:20:18,799 --> 00:20:21,960 from using state taxpayer funds to pay for sex reassignment 322 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:26,680 surgery for inmates, requires transgender North Carolinians to use their 323 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,240 original birth certificate in official transactions. I actually have the 324 00:20:30,279 --> 00:20:32,440 bill in front of me. I will go over those details. 325 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,319 Allow public school students to request to be excused from 326 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,319 any course material if they believe that material would quote 327 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:44,400 impose a substantial burden on their religious beliefs. We have 328 00:20:44,559 --> 00:20:48,920 to be able to force this on the kids. I 329 00:20:49,079 --> 00:20:53,960 want you to skip and gallop through that rainbow balloon 330 00:20:54,519 --> 00:20:56,960 arch that we have set up in the hallway while 331 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:01,960 wearing a rainbow tiara and tutu and I'm not making 332 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,319 this up. This was actual video that was posted. This 333 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,119 is the kind of stuff that's going on in the 334 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,279 in the schools, and there are parents and students who 335 00:21:09,319 --> 00:21:12,960 do not want to participate in this. It would require 336 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,920 school boards to post a list of books available in 337 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,839 their schools, require public schools to block students from borrowing 338 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,200 certain books if instructed to do so by that student's parent, 339 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,960 and so all of this is obviously outrageous. Okay, here 340 00:21:29,039 --> 00:21:34,240 is State Senator Buck Newton who says that this was 341 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:40,279 hotly debated. These additional provisions was debated in the committee 342 00:21:40,319 --> 00:21:42,599 in a Senate committee, and then he goes on to 343 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,200 explain why the bill is necessary. 344 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 3: You know, you know, across the country, we all have 345 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:54,200 to recognize that women are being systemically erased from our language. 346 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:59,440 You know, whether it's changing words to pregnant, from pregnant 347 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:05,319 women to person, or mother to a birthing parent. These 348 00:22:05,319 --> 00:22:09,359 are small changes but send a very strong message to women. 349 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,200 We want to send an equally strong message that women 350 00:22:13,279 --> 00:22:16,279 exist and they're supported here in North Carolina. 351 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: And it's pretty simple. 352 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:23,079 Speaker 3: We cannot ignore the biological realities, and we believe our 353 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:27,240 state laws should reflect that at the federal level, President 354 00:22:27,279 --> 00:22:30,839 Trump is issued in executive order which restored the United 355 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:35,920 States recognition of only two sexes, male and female. And 356 00:22:36,079 --> 00:22:38,160 it's time here in North Carolina for us to do 357 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,000 the same. And that's exactly what we do here in 358 00:22:41,039 --> 00:22:46,559 this bill. Section one affirms that biological sex as truth 359 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,839 and ensures that our states regulations and policies are clear 360 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:55,799 and certain about the biologically grounded definition of sex. Clearly 361 00:22:55,839 --> 00:23:01,839 states the definition of female, male, boy, girl, father, mother, man, 362 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,720 and woman right. 363 00:23:04,519 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 2: So the bill would also extend the period under which 364 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:13,240 people can sue medical providers for issues related to gender 365 00:23:13,279 --> 00:23:18,279 reassignment surgery for up to ten years after a procedure 366 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:24,519 was performed. So the statute of limitations is now ten years. 367 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,000 And I have this also highlighted in the legislation. I'm 368 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:34,160 I'm not really sure that this WURL story. I'm not 369 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:38,960 sure it's framed correctly. Senate Minority Leader Sidney Batch, we're 370 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,799 going to hear from her as well. She accused Senate 371 00:23:41,839 --> 00:23:47,279 Republicans of hijacking the bill with culture war amendments. And 372 00:23:47,319 --> 00:23:49,640 this is one of the things that the left loves 373 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,799 to do, and they get a free pass on it. 374 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:57,160 Whenever they do it, they accuse the right of engaging 375 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:04,440 in culture war issues when the right is responding to 376 00:24:05,039 --> 00:24:11,319 the incursions made by the culture warriors, right, these social 377 00:24:11,519 --> 00:24:15,680 justice warriors, these culture warriors from the left, they make incursions, 378 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:22,039 They attack institutions, they attack vocabulary, like birthing persons and such. Right, 379 00:24:22,759 --> 00:24:27,440 they make these incursions, and when the right says stop 380 00:24:27,519 --> 00:24:30,079 with this, we mounted defense. And now we're going to 381 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:35,160 say no, you know, a woman is a person who 382 00:24:35,279 --> 00:24:38,519 is born female, like, we're going to define this stuff 383 00:24:38,559 --> 00:24:42,559 because you guys are manipulating and corrupting the language in 384 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:48,680 order to make these different inroads under your you know, 385 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,519 Graham shean Marxist long march through the institutions. And so 386 00:24:52,559 --> 00:24:55,480 when the right pushes back, then it's, oh, you're engaging 387 00:24:55,480 --> 00:25:00,240 in the culture war issues. No, we are engaging with 388 00:25:00,319 --> 00:25:03,160 you as you attacked in the culture war. 389 00:25:03,559 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: Y'all did this. 390 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 2: Y'all did this, and you think that you're justified in 391 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,480 doing it, and you're morally superior for doing it. But 392 00:25:11,519 --> 00:25:17,799 you're not. You are not, She suggested, Sidney Batch did that. 393 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,400 Senate Republicans don't care about solving the issue of exploitation 394 00:25:21,799 --> 00:25:24,680 because they're turning a bill that previously had unanimous support 395 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:29,319 into a party line fight over unrelated LGBTQ issues. 396 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,559 Speaker 1: Yes they are. You are correct. 397 00:25:34,519 --> 00:25:38,559 Speaker 2: They saw an opportunity to jam you guys up because 398 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,279 you don't know what a woman is. Although you do 399 00:25:41,319 --> 00:25:43,319 know what a woman is because you say it all 400 00:25:43,319 --> 00:25:46,319 the time. You talk about how first woman ever to 401 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,680 do fill in the blank. So we know you know 402 00:25:49,759 --> 00:25:51,960 what a woman is, but we also know that you 403 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,880 can't define it because politically among your base you will 404 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,480 be shunned. You'll be chastised for it. So yes, publicans 405 00:26:00,519 --> 00:26:03,319 see and opening to jam you up on this so 406 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,680 you don't get to use it in your campaign commercials. 407 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,559 You won't get to say I voted for a bill 408 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,640 to crack down on online exploitation of women and minors. 409 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,640 You won't get to say that, and your opponents, who 410 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,920 will likely be Republicans, they will be able to say 411 00:26:21,079 --> 00:26:24,359 you voted against it. See that's how this works, and 412 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,200 it has worked for a very very long time, and 413 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,799 you Democrats have been doing it yourselves. I remember when 414 00:26:28,799 --> 00:26:31,640 you ran the North Carolina Legislature, you did do it. 415 00:26:32,079 --> 00:26:37,039 So you can lament the game, but don't hate the players. 416 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,400 You know, she said, if we don't fix the bill, 417 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,519 that we're sending a message to predators that we don't 418 00:26:41,519 --> 00:26:44,359 care about our children. And that's just a stupid argument, 419 00:26:45,079 --> 00:26:48,480 but she made it because they really don't have much 420 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,000 else of an argument to make. But they did try 421 00:26:51,039 --> 00:26:55,880 some tactics. Yeah, they did try some tactics. We'll get 422 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,400 to that in a minute. All right, If you're listening 423 00:26:58,400 --> 00:26:59,920 to this show, you know I try to keep up 424 00:27:00,079 --> 00:27:02,200 all sorts of current events, and I know you do too, 425 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,880 And you've probably heard me say get your news from 426 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,559 multiple sources. Why Well, because it's how you detect media bias, 427 00:27:09,599 --> 00:27:12,160 which is why I've been so impressed with ground News. 428 00:27:12,519 --> 00:27:15,920 It's an app and it's a website, and it combines 429 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,039 news from around the world in one place, so you 430 00:27:18,079 --> 00:27:21,440 can compare coverage and verify information. You can check it 431 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:26,039 out at check dot ground, dot news slash Pete. I 432 00:27:26,079 --> 00:27:28,960 put the link in the podcast description too. I started 433 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,720 using ground News a few months ago and more recently 434 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,880 chose to work with them as an affiliate because it 435 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,799 lets me see clearly how stories get covered and by whom. 436 00:27:38,079 --> 00:27:41,039 The blind spot feature shows you which stories get ignored 437 00:27:41,079 --> 00:27:44,000 by the left and the right. See for yourself check 438 00:27:44,079 --> 00:27:48,559 dot Ground, dot News slash pete. Subscribe through that link 439 00:27:48,599 --> 00:27:51,480 and you'll get fifteen percent off any subscription. I use 440 00:27:51,559 --> 00:27:54,680 the Vantage plan to get unlimited access to every feature. 441 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,640 Your subscription then not only helps my podcast, but it 442 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,839 also supports Ground News as they make the media landscape 443 00:28:00,839 --> 00:28:01,720 more transparent. 444 00:28:02,039 --> 00:28:03,039 Speaker 1: So I mentioned. 445 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 2: Sidney Batch, Democrat from Wake County. She criticized the the 446 00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:15,319 inclusion the additional language defining men, women, boys, girls. 447 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:16,039 Speaker 3: Right. 448 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 2: She opposed this and criticized the inclusion of these very 449 00:28:19,559 --> 00:28:22,440 elementary definitions in the Senate version of the bill. 450 00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 4: This bill was introduced to protect children originally and women. 451 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,319 Speaker 1: That was its intent and women. 452 00:28:28,039 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 4: It was actually introduced to protect our children, especially our sons, 453 00:28:31,279 --> 00:28:34,359 from being targeted, extorted and exploited online. 454 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:35,839 Speaker 1: What's a sun and that's what. 455 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,359 Speaker 4: We came here to do. But what's before us now 456 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,039 is not a bill that we agreed to or that 457 00:28:41,119 --> 00:28:46,160 the House by unanimous vote voted for. It's been hijacked, 458 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,160 gutted and replaced, has language that's been not just unrelated, 459 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,720 but dangerous. We are watching a crisis. 460 00:28:53,359 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: Unfold, all right. So it was not gutted. 461 00:28:57,799 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 2: And you know, under this gut and stuff procedure as 462 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,640 I laid out earlier, and I got a tweet from Eric. 463 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,839 It's a Pete tweet. He says, gut and stuff is 464 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,599 so uncivilized. Pete, may I suggest purgein pack. 465 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,799 Speaker 1: I like it. Purgein pack. It's a good one too. 466 00:29:16,759 --> 00:29:17,119 Speaker 4: So the. 467 00:29:19,079 --> 00:29:24,799 Speaker 2: Additional provisions that were put into this legislation, they're not unrelated. 468 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,920 It's literally the same thing, Like you're talking about protecting 469 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:34,559 women and children, and this puts into the law the 470 00:29:34,599 --> 00:29:37,440 definition of a woman and a boy and a girl, 471 00:29:38,079 --> 00:29:41,880 which the legislation refers to, So it's not completely unrelated. 472 00:29:42,319 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 4: Sex stortion is exploding in our state, a six increase 473 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,839 in cases in just one year between twenty twenty one 474 00:29:51,079 --> 00:29:55,960 and twenty twenty two. Teenage boys are being manipulated into 475 00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:01,160 sharing explicit images and then blackmailed. Some have taken their 476 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:07,480 own lives. There are real kids, real families, and real consequences. 477 00:30:08,119 --> 00:30:12,000 The State Bureau of Investigations reported that nearly nineteen thousand 478 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:16,119 cyber tips about extortion in North Carolina were reported in 479 00:30:16,279 --> 00:30:21,599 twenty twenty two, up from twenty five hundred six years prior. 480 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,680 We received a clean bill from the House in eight 481 00:30:24,759 --> 00:30:27,559 o five to address this, and rather than pass this 482 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,279 clean bill to immediately address the crisis and to save 483 00:30:30,319 --> 00:30:34,240 more lives, the bill was modified without the consent of 484 00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:39,160 the House sponsors. When my Republican colleagues loaded this bill 485 00:30:39,359 --> 00:30:43,319 with culture War amendments, they didn't just distract from the problem. 486 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,079 They made it impossible to solve. 487 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,359 Speaker 1: No, it's not impossible to solve. 488 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 2: You can make a decision as to what's more important, right, Like, 489 00:30:54,039 --> 00:30:56,680 you can vote for the bill. You can do that 490 00:30:57,759 --> 00:30:59,519 even if it doesn't have everything in it that you like, 491 00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:01,920 and still vote for a bill that has things in 492 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,359 it you don't like. You can do that, but you 493 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,960 don't want to do that, right you want a quote 494 00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:10,680 clean bill. So this way you can tout the fact 495 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,880 that you supported this clean bill. You could say, look 496 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,599 at me, I'm protecting women. I'm protecting young kids against sextortion, 497 00:31:16,759 --> 00:31:20,519 which is a real problem, no doubt about it. And 498 00:31:20,599 --> 00:31:24,119 so you have to weigh the options here. But before 499 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,200 we get to a decision there, they went about a 500 00:31:28,279 --> 00:31:35,400 whole series of legislative maneuvers. She proposed first that the 501 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,000 bill gets sent back to the Rules Committee, and if 502 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,240 the Senate does not do so. She said that would 503 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,759 send a message to the predators that the legislature does 504 00:31:43,839 --> 00:31:48,759 not care about protecting children. That attempt to send it 505 00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:51,319 back to the Rules Committee was ruled to be out 506 00:31:51,319 --> 00:31:54,160 of order under the Senate rules, so you can't do that. 507 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,039 So then they tried something else. They were like, Okay, well, 508 00:31:58,039 --> 00:32:01,160 how about we split the bill into two different parts, 509 00:32:01,599 --> 00:32:04,039 the part we like and the part we don't like. 510 00:32:04,519 --> 00:32:06,880 In this way, we can vote against the part we 511 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,359 don't like and we can vote for the one we 512 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:14,799 do And that motion to divide the measure failed as well. 513 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,440 Then they tried to postpone the bill until December twenty fourth. 514 00:32:20,039 --> 00:32:23,680 I'm not sure why Christmas Eve was chosen as the day, 515 00:32:23,799 --> 00:32:27,720 but that's what they attempted, and that also failed. Because 516 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:34,200 Democrats do not have a majority. You are legislating in 517 00:32:34,319 --> 00:32:37,799 a chamber that has a Republican super majority. They don't 518 00:32:37,799 --> 00:32:41,720 need any of your votes. They don't need a single 519 00:32:41,799 --> 00:32:45,640 vote from you. Now they're going to need a Democrat 520 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:50,240 vote over in the House. Because the House sent you 521 00:32:50,279 --> 00:32:53,279 a version the clean bill, you then added stuff to it, 522 00:32:53,319 --> 00:32:54,920 which means it has to go back to the House 523 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,839 for their concurrence. They have to agree with what you've added, 524 00:32:58,359 --> 00:33:01,839 and maybe the House doesn't, maybe they vote no on it. 525 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,279 Maybe they want a veto proof majority over in the 526 00:33:05,319 --> 00:33:06,960 House too. They don't have the numbers, so they're going 527 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,920 to have to peel away some Democrats and who knows, 528 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,119 maybe they already have a Democrat or two lined up 529 00:33:11,599 --> 00:33:13,839 for that to override a potential. 530 00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: Veto, or maybe they don't. 531 00:33:16,079 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 2: Maybe they don't have a Democrat or too that are 532 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:20,440 going to help them pass this. 533 00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: They'll still pass it. 534 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 2: It's a majority Republican body, and then it goes to 535 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,200 the governor and then the governor he'll have a decision 536 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,759 to make does he or does he veto this or not? Yeah. See, 537 00:33:31,839 --> 00:33:36,440 these are politically tricky questions for Democrats. That's what they 538 00:33:36,519 --> 00:33:42,599 don't like that they're being jammed up by the Republican majorities. 539 00:33:43,759 --> 00:33:46,519 And if they don't vote for these things, then that 540 00:33:46,599 --> 00:33:50,480 will be used against them in their election campaigns. And 541 00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:53,759 Democrats do this to Republicans all the time, at the 542 00:33:53,839 --> 00:33:56,000 national level, at the state level, at the local level, 543 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,599 they do it all the time. They'll stick poison pills 544 00:33:58,599 --> 00:34:02,359 inside of bills, so this way Republicans won't vote for it. 545 00:34:03,559 --> 00:34:06,960 By the way, the postponement to Christmas Eve that failed also, 546 00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:09,119 and then they tried to limit the access of school 547 00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:12,400 library books to only parents or guardians of students at 548 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:19,480 the individual schools that failed to All right, that'll do 549 00:34:19,559 --> 00:34:20,719 it for this episode. 550 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,119 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening. 551 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 2: I could not do the show without your support and 552 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,119 the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, 553 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,559 so if you'd like, please support them too and tell 554 00:34:29,599 --> 00:34:31,320 them you heard it here. 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