1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: If you've had a bigfoot siding, I would like to 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,320 be a guest. Please go to bigfootwitness dot com and 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:06,839 let me know. 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: My name's Kenneth Metzker. I'm the founder of the Montana, 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:17,559 Idaho Bigfoot Research Group. I'm also a published author on 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:22,480 a book about bigfoot. I've been doing this hardline now 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:27,120 for about five years, being in the field online research. 8 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:33,880 I'm currently working on another book about bigfoot and it's 9 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,600 a fascinating subject to me because of my personal encounters 10 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:46,840 with bigfoot things I've seen, heard, smelled, and that. And 11 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,960 it really started in seventy eight with my first bigfoot 12 00:00:52,039 --> 00:00:56,240 siting of whole body sighting at fifty yards coming out 13 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,439 of an alpine lake here in western Montana. Looking that 14 00:01:00,679 --> 00:01:05,439 was not a bear. It was a bipedal creature walking upright. 15 00:01:06,439 --> 00:01:09,760 It had been tearing. It sounded like tearing a log apart. 16 00:01:10,079 --> 00:01:12,640 You could see parts of that wood on its spur 17 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:22,959 and it was all black and proturning brow high treating eyebrows. 18 00:01:23,159 --> 00:01:28,400 The head was round and not conical, flat nose, the 19 00:01:28,519 --> 00:01:31,120 mouth is open. You can see the upper and lower banks. 20 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:38,040 Extremely a barrow chest, extremely muscular arms and legs. It 21 00:01:38,079 --> 00:01:40,799 went up the bank, it stopped and looked at me, 22 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,879 and the window was blowing towards It had a creole 23 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,079 pull of fish, so if it come at me, I 24 00:01:48,079 --> 00:01:50,480 could drop those and back away. And it never did. 25 00:01:50,519 --> 00:01:53,439 It just went up the bank and then start parling 26 00:01:53,519 --> 00:01:57,000 the road above me. And when it got behind me, 27 00:01:57,719 --> 00:02:00,120 that's when I really got a good smell of it. 28 00:02:01,439 --> 00:02:05,640 That's the smell you'll never forget. And that smell has 29 00:02:05,719 --> 00:02:09,280 happened to me up in the swan and our field 30 00:02:09,319 --> 00:02:12,319 researches up there. All of a sudden, you get that 31 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,479 smell and you start feeling like you're being watched. Now 32 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,639 bigfoot will stand there and watch you. It's curious about you. 33 00:02:21,879 --> 00:02:25,479 I firmly believe they know within thirty minutes an hour 34 00:02:25,599 --> 00:02:31,319 that you're there, even though you're not doing anything but 35 00:02:31,439 --> 00:02:36,080 set in your camp up that But it's been even 36 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:40,400 as a child, things would happen. I couldn't explain back then. 37 00:02:41,479 --> 00:02:45,479 I do associate it now with a bipedal creature we 38 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:52,599 call big pot or sashquatch. Strange wood structures, abandoned cabins 39 00:02:53,039 --> 00:02:57,560 that nests built in them, Caves that had grass piled 40 00:02:58,719 --> 00:03:02,120 as a bedding area, and when you're young, you really 41 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,960 don't really think about it, what's doing it. But now, 42 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:11,639 after all the research I've gone through, I'm leaning more 43 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,479 and more to being around it, especially when you see 44 00:03:15,479 --> 00:03:18,759 something large walking away from you, you know, eight nine 45 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,120 tenth foot twe and it looks back at you, but 46 00:03:22,199 --> 00:03:25,719 it stays walking. And the other thing that hurts us 47 00:03:25,759 --> 00:03:30,400 who are active bigfoot researchers is these guys in costume 48 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:35,439 bigpoot costumes going out there having buddies, post video on 49 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:40,479 post them, Oh this is bigfoot, it's not. Now with AI, 50 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,319 you can pretty much make any kind of bigfoots you 51 00:03:43,319 --> 00:03:46,080 want with AI. So it's getting harder and harder to 52 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:52,639 prove actual what we're getting. And it's just it's a situation. 53 00:03:52,919 --> 00:03:57,080 Just keep going going, stay on the track, just ignore everything. 54 00:03:57,599 --> 00:04:02,439 I rarely watch any kind of Bigfoot show like Expedition Bigfoot, 55 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:09,080 Mountain Monsters, Expedition X. Rarely I'll watch those because to me, 56 00:04:09,159 --> 00:04:13,759 they're all scripted. And my question with them to a 57 00:04:13,759 --> 00:04:18,040 lot of that program, do they have to sign a 58 00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:24,199 non disclosure actor the government? They have the evidence, why 59 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:32,079 aren't they releasing it? And it's just a subject that's 60 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:39,240 still new but something we have to realize. We have 61 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:44,879 a species it's worldwide, just not North America, that is 62 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:54,160 a bipedal evolving primate. This is controversial the build they 63 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:59,879 have in the Congo. Bipedal primates are actually walking upright 64 00:05:00,079 --> 00:05:03,839 the real friendly. Their pattern of what they do is 65 00:05:03,879 --> 00:05:09,120 similar to what our pigots do. And look at Australia, 66 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,480 anywhere you look in this world, those reports of a 67 00:05:12,519 --> 00:05:15,600 bipedal creature by a different name, but it's the same 68 00:05:15,879 --> 00:05:19,480 same creature. Description may be a little different, life may 69 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,839 be a little different. And that's what's so fascinating about 70 00:05:23,439 --> 00:05:27,480 even doing online research, is digging all this stuff up, 71 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:33,519 reading about all this stuff, and it's just a fascinating 72 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,879 to me. It's a world of education. I'm a high 73 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:43,759 school dropout. I hated school, and this has really gotten 74 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:50,879 me to appreciate studying and researching because it's a subject 75 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:55,240 subject I really love to do. And this year we're 76 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:59,120 going to actually have a small voice recorder so when 77 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:04,120 I talk to the littles a lecture of start getting documented 78 00:06:04,959 --> 00:06:11,319 audio case files of their experiences, which is something I 79 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:15,439 haven't done before, but it's time I do that because 80 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,720 that's that's all part of the part of our mission statement. 81 00:06:20,639 --> 00:06:24,160 We wanted it available to people, and that's what we're 82 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:28,439 working towards. But I started going into the mountains when 83 00:06:28,439 --> 00:06:31,279 I was thirteen years old and out of East Missoula, 84 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:37,639 and that's when I started having seeing unusual things, structures, 85 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:43,920 hearing vocalizations like coyots that weren't coyotes, owls that weren't owls. 86 00:06:44,439 --> 00:06:50,240 They're good at me making a lot of birds. And 87 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,480 it's always been there. And now I'm a serious, a 88 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:59,199 very serious researcher on big put Like I said, I've 89 00:06:59,199 --> 00:07:04,639 got my second book coming up released sometime this fall, 90 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:09,120 and it's going to go worldwide this time. And they 91 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,680 could all be talking about a few things we talked 92 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,879 about while ago in my group. The month in Idaho 93 00:07:15,959 --> 00:07:19,920 Bigfoot Research Group was four and five years ago, and 94 00:07:19,959 --> 00:07:22,519 it was foreign because I got tired of seeing people 95 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:27,519 get trolled on big Foot sites. They post something photos 96 00:07:28,199 --> 00:07:30,480 and people to troll them. I was determined to have 97 00:07:30,519 --> 00:07:34,000 a group that didn't happen. Our number one rule in 98 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,480 the group is to be respectful. If you're not respectful, 99 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,040 I removed you immediately from the group. I don't play games, 100 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:45,560 I don't give warnings. I remove you. We're finally getting 101 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,560 people to start opening up about experiences they've been having. 102 00:07:48,879 --> 00:07:51,120 And it's taken almost four years for this to happen. 103 00:07:52,519 --> 00:07:54,519 And we do have members from all over the world. 104 00:07:54,639 --> 00:07:57,800 I do get contacted by them about things that are 105 00:07:57,839 --> 00:08:05,240 going on in art and Wales, China, Russia. So just 106 00:08:05,279 --> 00:08:08,279 not like I said, it's Bigfoot is not local. It's 107 00:08:08,319 --> 00:08:16,120 not native to North America. And the one thing most 108 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:21,199 people overlook is the Native American culture. Their history goes back, 109 00:08:21,959 --> 00:08:25,120 according to them, to the Black Beat, to Black Boots. 110 00:08:25,199 --> 00:08:28,680 Everyone I've talked to name Americans. Bigfoot was already here 111 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:35,120 when they cross that land bridge. So and one of 112 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:39,320 the oldest tribes in North America is to the Black Beat. 113 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,960 That then Moray is the black Wood in the Black Beat. 114 00:08:44,879 --> 00:08:50,200 They are the first Native. Their DNA comes back thousands 115 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:56,840 of years they've been in this country. So these are 116 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,840 the ones you want to talk to, listen to, and 117 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,240 number one role with Native Americans be respectful. If you're 118 00:09:04,279 --> 00:09:09,919 not respectful, they won't talk to you. Yeah, it's just 119 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,960 it's a learning learning curve. It's all learning, and the 120 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,000 main thing is you have to have an open mind. 121 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:22,000 Because somebody says something you may not believe in, don't 122 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:26,879 criticize them unless I personally see it. I don't discount it. 123 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,799 I've never seen a dogment, so I don't. I don't 124 00:09:29,799 --> 00:09:35,480 discount I've never seen portals inter dimensional, but I'm not 125 00:09:35,519 --> 00:09:38,240 going to discount them because I haven't seen him. I 126 00:09:38,279 --> 00:09:44,519 can't say that guy hasn't experienced it. And my members 127 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,519 are the same way. It's an open you keep an 128 00:09:47,519 --> 00:09:51,480 open mind, being respectful to who you're talking to. Yes, 129 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,919 I have done a lot of podcasts. I enjoy doing podcasts, 130 00:09:56,519 --> 00:10:01,799 and we end up like with Nick Harrius, where you're 131 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:08,759 talking about put what I've experienced. And there was an incident. 132 00:10:08,879 --> 00:10:11,000 I was coming out, had been hunting. I rarely get 133 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,440 turned around in the woods. This time I did. I 134 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,759 don't panic. I sat down and I pulled out a 135 00:10:16,799 --> 00:10:20,559 little packet of raisins and some jerkin, chewing on it 136 00:10:20,639 --> 00:10:24,279 to get my orientation. I get up to start a 137 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,759 walking alsen. I had a feeling a certain I need 138 00:10:26,759 --> 00:10:29,960 to go a certain way. There were arrows on the ground. 139 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,120 I called them right to my truck. I went back 140 00:10:36,159 --> 00:10:38,919 the next day there were snow arrows anymore? What put 141 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:44,240 them there? What took them? These are the unexplained things. 142 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:51,799 You can't they happen, but it's hard to believe what 143 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:56,879 you're seeing. What puts an extra bundle of dry wood 144 00:10:56,879 --> 00:11:01,879 by your fire when you're about out, You don't hear anything, 145 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:07,759 but yet it happens. It's happened to me a couple 146 00:11:07,799 --> 00:11:12,440 of times in the high upline country gather. Would you 147 00:11:12,519 --> 00:11:15,559 have about three o'clock stoked the fire, realize you maybe 148 00:11:16,039 --> 00:11:19,799 have one more udden up wood for one more fire 149 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,480 to stoke it? And then you wake up and there's 150 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,519 another pile of wood there? What put that wood there? 151 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:34,879 There's no humans there, primitive fish traps. These all areas 152 00:11:34,919 --> 00:11:43,120 nobody goes into. What's building them. This is what your 153 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:52,039 awareness of something real special out there, and that it's 154 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:56,679 just it's hard to really explain when you've been through 155 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,440 a lot in your life, especially with the white Field creature, 156 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:07,080 but you know it's always been around. I still can't 157 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:11,399 explain what took that body, that coyote on my coyote 158 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:16,320 line in the wintertime there. I never thought about brushing 159 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,519 this fresh snow out of those tracks that were large. 160 00:12:20,279 --> 00:12:25,720 You're talking eighteen nineteen inch tracks. I always what took it? 161 00:12:26,159 --> 00:12:34,279 What destroyed the beaver traps? I took the beaver. There's 162 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:38,799 not time of year. The bears are hibernating one thing 163 00:12:38,919 --> 00:12:43,120 capable of destroying connobers, and that is something of extreme strength. 164 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:53,279 I can't do it. Logs that it looks impossible, or throwing. 165 00:12:54,799 --> 00:12:56,679 You try to pick that log up, you can't pick 166 00:12:56,759 --> 00:13:01,559 it up. If you can out nature and man made, 167 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:08,159 what's doing it? And like structures, you're going to see 168 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,159 things out there, But you have to understand. You've got 169 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:15,639 to be able to distinguish between natural, man made and 170 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:21,120 possibly big foot. Heavy rain and wind will top the trees, 171 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:30,840 You'll have excess heavy snow will make bows, and you 172 00:13:30,919 --> 00:13:33,679 have to know. You have to understand what you're looking at. 173 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,039 And no one rule is understand what you're doing in 174 00:13:36,039 --> 00:13:40,679 the woods. The mountains are unforgiving. They will hurt yours 175 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,279 you not careful, and if you get hurt back there, 176 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:49,320 you're alone. You can pretty much seal your fate. But 177 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,759 still we do it. We still go out there traps 178 00:13:51,799 --> 00:13:55,440 in the woods and do our research. I'm looking so 179 00:13:55,519 --> 00:13:58,279 forward to the one in June that's coming up, and 180 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:04,279 we do welcome others to join us, come learn, come 181 00:14:04,279 --> 00:14:06,679 out with us to see how we set up trail camps. 182 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,320 What we're looking for, what kind of structures, maybe a 183 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:15,759 nesting site, kinds of food they eat, and we'll get 184 00:14:15,759 --> 00:14:21,320 into the one they can. They talked about, Oh what 185 00:14:21,639 --> 00:14:30,559 time things happen. It's fascinating, but you have to understand 186 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:35,480 you're dealing with something that is unknown. I firmly believe 187 00:14:35,519 --> 00:14:39,519 as others the government knows exactly what people is. If 188 00:14:39,519 --> 00:14:43,120 you get too close, they'll shut you down. Yes, you 189 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:48,360 will get warned. Trusting you will get warned. They don'tant 190 00:14:48,399 --> 00:14:51,519 you talking about it. They don't want you expose in 191 00:14:51,759 --> 00:14:55,720 the truth like the UFOs and all that to They 192 00:14:55,720 --> 00:15:01,279 finally admitia. They finally said, yeah, they're here. Why is 193 00:15:01,279 --> 00:15:04,919 the relationship between big put aliens and that in the 194 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:09,720 Native American culture? This is something they're not making up. 195 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:14,399 This is something they're seeing. Why did we have a 196 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,919 cylind care object behind our motor home on the second 197 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:27,360 year and the swan covering in the air It wasn't there. 198 00:15:27,399 --> 00:15:30,600 That might be poor or afterwards. The fire of light 199 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:37,759 is actually reflecting off the casing. Yeah, the fire light's 200 00:15:37,799 --> 00:15:40,320 not reflecting off of the motor home or the tents 201 00:15:40,399 --> 00:15:47,200 or anything just that object. But I've come to expect 202 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:51,440 the unexpected in a given time. I've never had a 203 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,879 big foot being aggressive, except for once when I threw 204 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,240 something at the motorhome. I use a class A mortar 205 00:15:58,279 --> 00:16:02,840 home as my base and I work out a bit. 206 00:16:03,559 --> 00:16:06,960 We do have hathields forty channel CBS that go in 207 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,799 the field. They're all tied into that mortar hold my 208 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,679 jeep so I can monitor what's going on. We do 209 00:16:13,759 --> 00:16:17,840 have two way radios we use. We do use night 210 00:16:17,919 --> 00:16:23,679 vision binoculars. We are also starting to use a high 211 00:16:23,679 --> 00:16:32,120 density motion detected on night lights. They're solar powered. Anybody, 212 00:16:32,279 --> 00:16:36,080 anything that comes in it gets lit up and the 213 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:42,120 trail cancel catch what's there. We're always trying new things. 214 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:46,799 That's what's fun about field research is trying new things. 215 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,240 I don't feel they put it's afraid of trail cameras. 216 00:16:51,799 --> 00:16:54,840 They're much, very much aware of one. Yes, so are 217 00:16:54,879 --> 00:17:02,519 the deer, the elk, the moose. I've gotten video moose, deer, elk. 218 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,839 I've got one of the cow grove in the trail camera. 219 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,400 I've got wolves. Took three years. I've finally got a bird. 220 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:16,319 I have yet to get a bear and two two 221 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,640 years three years ago, when I went up with my 222 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,920 youngest daughter, I got a photo of hear of me 223 00:17:22,039 --> 00:17:25,480 walking away from the trail camp. Then there's nothing at 224 00:17:25,519 --> 00:17:29,599 the end of the field and the trees standing. A male, 225 00:17:29,799 --> 00:17:32,319 it looks like a male. They put in a juvenile, 226 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:38,960 possibly a fet man. And all these are taken during 227 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:44,480 the day. The shoulder and the finger is from Saint Mary's, Idaho, 228 00:17:44,599 --> 00:17:49,119 my son's property. He was taken during the day. I 229 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,599 think they are very nocturnal. Once a full moon they'll 230 00:17:52,599 --> 00:17:55,599 move more night under full moon, so do the deer 231 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,279 and elk, But once the darken the moves. They're moving 232 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:07,640 during the day. Well, this group, my group, we are 233 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:14,440 dedicated defining the truth. Where we want to talk to people. 234 00:18:14,799 --> 00:18:19,519 We want to tell people what we've learned. I can 235 00:18:19,559 --> 00:18:22,480 sit in a bar and somebody'll ask me. I'll be 236 00:18:22,519 --> 00:18:24,759 there for two three hours talking to a group of 237 00:18:24,799 --> 00:18:29,279 people about bigot. I don't go in planning to, but 238 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:36,319 it just ends up that way. And that's what it's 239 00:18:36,319 --> 00:18:39,839 all about. Is learning is learning. I'm a firm believer 240 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:46,960 that Bigfoot is an evolving primate just like humans. And 241 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,680 that's going to be controversial over with creationists and that 242 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:55,480 that we didn't evolve for make what was Lucy? For 243 00:18:55,599 --> 00:18:58,240 us to survive. For Lucy to survive, you have to 244 00:18:58,279 --> 00:19:01,680 have a breeding population, so there had to be more 245 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,960 than Lucy. The dragon man in China is similar to 246 00:19:06,039 --> 00:19:09,599 Lucy and around the time same time, in the time 247 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:18,119 frame history, there's been skulls uncarvered in Malaysia that not 248 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:23,039 quite as old as Lucy. But getting back there, where 249 00:19:23,039 --> 00:19:27,319 did humans come from? If you stay away from the 250 00:19:27,839 --> 00:19:34,440 creationist stuff, we evolved from something. We have a good history. 251 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:39,400 If you look at the records of human development, then 252 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,680 look at the primate development. There's no change in primate 253 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:49,480 development humans. There's changes different speed types of humans for 254 00:19:49,519 --> 00:19:53,799 a short period in time. This is what research is 255 00:19:53,839 --> 00:19:59,640 all about and what I find so fascinating. One question 256 00:20:00,039 --> 00:20:06,799 it is, is bigfoot as of Gigantopithecus. I'm not saying 257 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:13,799 it's not. It could be. Gigantopithecus is based on mores 258 00:20:13,839 --> 00:20:18,359 than a few poss opponents. The size of it. You 259 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,559 have a better chance of finding a cave bear, primitive 260 00:20:21,599 --> 00:20:24,799 cave bear in a cave somewhere than finding a complete 261 00:20:24,839 --> 00:20:32,240 gigantic or skeleton. I get hit. Why don't we find 262 00:20:32,279 --> 00:20:35,759 any dead ones? How can you've been in the woods 263 00:20:35,759 --> 00:20:40,559 and find dead deer, dead bear? You don't. Nature takes 264 00:20:40,599 --> 00:20:45,440 care of it own of its own A body the 265 00:20:45,559 --> 00:20:49,319 case really fast. If you want to roadkill, watch how 266 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:55,880 fast that body disappears from scavenging a dec composition. Like 267 00:20:55,960 --> 00:21:00,960 I said, it's something I'm still learning. But the more 268 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:05,359 I do this research, the more intriguing I'm getting about 269 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:12,880 where did Bigfoot actually really come from? And did it 270 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,519 come across the land ridge? One of the first languages 271 00:21:15,599 --> 00:21:20,559 they know, the land ridge whig in Asia and Alaska 272 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:26,480 had occurred several times. Did it come in one of those? 273 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,519 Did it move the other way? Instead of going easy 274 00:21:34,039 --> 00:21:39,559 they went west in Asia and that part of the world. 275 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:45,319 These are all unanswered questions. Maybe I'll never be able 276 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,400 to answer them, and that's what makes it so intriguing. 277 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:54,599 The best challenge is an unanswered question, because you're going 278 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:59,559 to try to answer that question. And that's what I do. 279 00:21:59,599 --> 00:22:02,839 I'll spend hours on the computer doing research. I spend 280 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,480 when I can as much time as I can. Now 281 00:22:06,519 --> 00:22:11,880 in the mountains wintertime, I don't Montana winters can be brutal, 282 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,960 they can be cold. We get real hot summers here, 283 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:21,000 so I feel they do move. They move in areas 284 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,119 that are cooler in the summertime. There are areas that 285 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:28,480 are warmer in the wintertime that they move to. They 286 00:22:28,519 --> 00:22:34,839 may hibernate somewhat. And I'll explain that in a little while. 287 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:39,599 Why I said that bears are known to get up 288 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:45,759 from hibernation and wander around. Think about the animals that hibernate. 289 00:22:45,839 --> 00:22:50,480 They do move around eventually in the wintertime. Humans we 290 00:22:50,559 --> 00:22:55,640 do not hibernate. We're out there in the winter writing snowmobiles, 291 00:22:55,640 --> 00:23:01,359 ski and snowshoes and fishing to survive the cold weather. 292 00:23:03,279 --> 00:23:08,799 But we're addressed accordingly. But the main thing what people 293 00:23:08,799 --> 00:23:12,799 do understand is this is to me, it's not a game. 294 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:20,000 I'm I want to know exactly what bigfoot is. Yes, 295 00:23:20,079 --> 00:23:23,359 I've had DNA done on a scat. It's come back 296 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,880 to an unknown trymate, and we keep trying to verify that. 297 00:23:28,039 --> 00:23:30,640 Every time we go in the field. We're looking for hair, 298 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:37,799 we're looking for scat, oh things like that, and it's 299 00:23:37,799 --> 00:23:41,799 hard to find. It's really hard to find. I have 300 00:23:41,839 --> 00:23:48,359 a microscope. I took time. I've got sixteen samples of 301 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:53,359 hair of known species. I can look under a microscope 302 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,640 with them and compare them to the hair samples we find. 303 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,039 If it doesn't match one of those, what is it? 304 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,559 We get the particle. We have DNA. So I do 305 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,200 go well prepared I go in the field. 306 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like you go very well prepared when 307 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,160 you head into the field. 308 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 2: Yep, everything I have. I do have video cameras. We 309 00:24:16,799 --> 00:24:20,519 can video. I have a thirty five millimeter with a 310 00:24:20,599 --> 00:24:24,839 total plants. That lens can take a clear photograph of 311 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:30,039 five miles Wow, long way off. Yes, yes it is, 312 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,119 and it's all set up. It's all set up there. 313 00:24:35,319 --> 00:24:37,920 We have people stop by the camp and sit down 314 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:43,000 by the fire. We offer coffee and when they start talking, 315 00:24:43,079 --> 00:24:50,079 we listen. When they've done, I asked questions. I go 316 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,799 to the store up there. We don't get out of 317 00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:55,359 that store without somebody bother stopping to talk to me, 318 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,599 even terists. We do have two T shirts. This is 319 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:05,559 big researcher on it. We are people waiting to talk 320 00:25:05,559 --> 00:25:11,839 to us. When I was on the reservation, in the 321 00:25:11,839 --> 00:25:16,000 Blackfeet Reservation, I'd come out at the store and people 322 00:25:16,079 --> 00:25:20,599 want to talk. People would flag me over to their 323 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:29,440 car to talk about what they've seen. When I left Browning, 324 00:25:30,519 --> 00:25:35,720 they gave me the name that they put man, which 325 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:41,000 I honored that actually gave me a name. So it's 326 00:25:41,079 --> 00:25:45,400 like I said, it's just if you find something that 327 00:25:45,519 --> 00:25:49,480 intrigues you to the point it doesn't become an obsession, 328 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,680 but comes a point of learning. There's a lot of 329 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:59,759 information out there. It's just taking the time to do 330 00:25:59,799 --> 00:26:02,759 their research. If you love being in the mountains, go 331 00:26:02,799 --> 00:26:06,160 out and spend the time, but go prepared. Don't go 332 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:12,480 out there half way. You have to prepare for adverse weather. 333 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,079 We went up and all they did was rain for 334 00:26:15,079 --> 00:26:18,599 eleven days. It makes it hard to want to go 335 00:26:18,599 --> 00:26:22,880 out there swashing through wet brochures and stuff. I won't 336 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,640 do it. I don't expect my people to do it, 337 00:26:25,279 --> 00:26:30,599 but I've got those that will do it. Your equipment, 338 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,160 don't go out there. Spend a lot of money. Make 339 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,799 yourself a budget, buy the cheaper trail cams, learn how 340 00:26:37,839 --> 00:26:42,119 to operate them. If you're into drones with the cameras, 341 00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:45,039 don't go out there spend thousand dollars for a drone, 342 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,839 buy a cheap one and learn how to fly it. 343 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,720 To do a drone, you have to get certified, which 344 00:26:54,759 --> 00:26:59,000 I am certified to fly drone. And we do use drones. 345 00:26:59,279 --> 00:27:05,039 We use big ones and little ones, and everything's a 346 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,880 learning process. So when you first start, take it baby steps, 347 00:27:10,079 --> 00:27:12,680 one step at a time. Every time you go out, 348 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,359 you're going to learn what you're going to need. Don't 349 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,400 go overboard. It's taking me four years to get all 350 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,960 the stuff we have. We have over about thirty trail cancer. 351 00:27:23,079 --> 00:27:29,920 We point out to high end night vision binoculars that 352 00:27:30,079 --> 00:27:38,000 does record both video and photo, and it's just you 353 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,880 just take your time and do it right. Safety is 354 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,119 number one. They say never go in the woods alone, 355 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,720 and were firm believable of that. Yes, well, we're in 356 00:27:49,759 --> 00:27:55,160 basecams from that. We have weapons. Montana has two species 357 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,359 of bear, the black bear and the grizzly. Grizzlies are aggressive. 358 00:28:00,039 --> 00:28:02,720 The weapons can camp for to protect those that are there. 359 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,880 I don't like the people to wear weapons into the 360 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,960 field because I think pig putting sense them, but I'm 361 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,319 going to tell them not to do it. I'm not 362 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,480 going to tell them that that's their choice when they're 363 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:20,400 at camp. I want them put away because the one 364 00:28:20,559 --> 00:28:24,720 primary weapon shoots a four hundred and thirty grain gas 365 00:28:24,799 --> 00:28:28,240 check bear load. It's the one chuck bullet, so forty 366 00:28:28,279 --> 00:28:35,480 five seventy and it will drop a bear Well. We 367 00:28:35,559 --> 00:28:37,640 have yet to use one. I have to use it, 368 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:42,599 but it's always there in case we need it. Safeties 369 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:47,519 are prior to you. If I don't know you, well, 370 00:28:47,599 --> 00:28:49,799 if you get stupid, you will be told to leave 371 00:28:49,839 --> 00:28:53,079 the camp. When you come with this, you do sign 372 00:28:53,079 --> 00:28:58,559 a non disclosure agreement. You also sign they have to 373 00:28:58,599 --> 00:29:03,559 sign a release of liability. I had an attorney draw 374 00:29:03,599 --> 00:29:06,359 all this up, and anybody joined us has to sign 375 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,799 it because if you get hurt out there, I don't 376 00:29:10,799 --> 00:29:14,519 want you suing me for you being stupid, and people 377 00:29:14,559 --> 00:29:19,119 do get stupid. Trust and I have seen it. But 378 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:23,720 safety and respect to the number one thing. But you know, 379 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,559 the years have come by, and now that I'm at 380 00:29:27,559 --> 00:29:31,000 a point in my life, I have the time to 381 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,839 really get into this deeper and deeper. Every year I 382 00:29:33,839 --> 00:29:36,440 get into it deeper and deeper. And like I said, 383 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:43,240 I do other podcasts. I think I've done seven already, 384 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,759 one with Vick Audio one. Then I've also been featured 385 00:29:47,799 --> 00:29:50,839 on a radio station here in Missoula. I didn't know it. 386 00:29:53,759 --> 00:29:58,960 Ray Harwood wrote part of it chapter about the Native 387 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:03,359 Americans and Montana in the Bigfoot. He actually wrote about 388 00:30:03,359 --> 00:30:08,279 me and my group in his book, which I feel honored. 389 00:30:10,039 --> 00:30:13,880 There some good books out there, But when we look 390 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,440 at other groups that are out there, a lot of 391 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,880 their programs are scripted to what they can say, and 392 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:27,160 that because at the time allowance, they want to drag 393 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:32,519 these programs out. We've been going to the same area 394 00:30:32,559 --> 00:30:38,440 for four years and we're still finding stuff. A lot 395 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:43,680 of it I cannot disclose. I've been advised not to disclose, 396 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,839 which is fine. For the stuff I disclose. What I 397 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:54,039 talk about is it's safe to talk about. And like 398 00:30:54,079 --> 00:30:58,559 I said, it's something that I'm very passionate about. Let's 399 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:03,759 say that I've had a good life. I've been all 400 00:31:03,799 --> 00:31:08,599 over the world, but my home's Montana. I will die 401 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:13,559 here in Montana. But with the group, I've got good members. 402 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,039 They do a lot of them do come to these 403 00:31:16,559 --> 00:31:23,079 research the field research trips and we have fun. We 404 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,680 do send up party at night. We do use a 405 00:31:27,759 --> 00:31:34,240 high density flashlight, but we also use high density black 406 00:31:34,319 --> 00:31:39,119 light flashlights the black light flashlight, you don't get an 407 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:44,480 eye shine. You will with the regular flashlight. These you don't. 408 00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:48,480 I've tested mon, deer, elk and all that you have 409 00:31:48,519 --> 00:31:53,200 no eye shine at all. With the other ones, you 410 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,640 will have eye shine. Eye shine is the number one 411 00:31:56,119 --> 00:32:02,200 tell tale about animal out there. They're watching you. You 412 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:07,000 cannot become invisible to Bigfoot. He knows you're there. He 413 00:32:07,079 --> 00:32:09,519 can be invisible to you. They're very hard to find, 414 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,920 very hard to see. But yet the family is they 415 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,640 make themselves knowing if they want you to see them, 416 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,680 they'll show themselves to you. And I'm not talking about 417 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:25,319 the guys driving down the highway and bigfoots walks out 418 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,480 across the road in front of them, or they see 419 00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:31,240 him along the road picking a fresh road killed and 420 00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:36,000 carrying it off as it does happen. This is the 421 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,559 ones that will stand there. They may stand there for hours, 422 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:45,079 watching you, observing you. You know the Native Americans saying, 423 00:32:45,119 --> 00:32:48,200 is bigfoots a guardian of the mountains. It speaks for 424 00:32:48,279 --> 00:32:53,160 those that can't. Yes, they can be aggressive, and we 425 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,000 are aware of that. We never know, just like a bear, 426 00:32:56,119 --> 00:32:57,960 you never know if it's going to be aggressive or not. 427 00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:03,160 All part of being out there, but be respectful. 428 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,039 Speaker 1: When you have one clear sighting of a sasquatch can 429 00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:09,759 that can cause an individual to struggle to find normalcy 430 00:33:09,839 --> 00:33:13,200 in their life. Considering how many experiences you've had, though, 431 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,880 do you struggle to find normalcy in your life. 432 00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 2: And certain aspects? Yeah, well I get hurt. I have 433 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,960 an analytical mind. So when I have like a full 434 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,640 body sighting or I see it on video or something 435 00:33:29,759 --> 00:33:34,400 a real what we get it's like, I'm still scratching 436 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:40,119 my head. Does it change your perspective? Yes, it does, 437 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,799 because you're looking at something that shouldn't be there, that 438 00:33:45,839 --> 00:33:50,440 one that when I come out of that lake, it 439 00:33:50,599 --> 00:33:56,880 just happened to have it stop and look at you. 440 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,240 Your heart kind of race, You kind of get scared. 441 00:33:59,799 --> 00:34:02,920 You know what's going to do. You can't outrun it, 442 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,960 and it may through it. It gives you a better 443 00:34:09,039 --> 00:34:15,880 understanding of how closed mind humans can be. They'll do 444 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,360 it and all that can't happen. That can't be. But 445 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,159 yet the evidence says opposite that it's there. You know, 446 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,840 for years they said there were no primate fossils in 447 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:31,840 North America. Explain the small primate fossils found in Canada, 448 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,679 Northern Canada, and then again in a basein in Wyoming. 449 00:34:36,519 --> 00:34:42,719 They're primate fossils. They may have come out of South America, 450 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:53,119 may have moved, you know, to me everything. I'll talk 451 00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:55,639 to the girls and I want every to think about this. 452 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:06,199 One thousand, twenty six, twenty twenty six, that's a thousand years. 453 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:12,159 What has humans done in that thousand years? We've walked 454 00:35:12,159 --> 00:35:21,320 on the moon, we have cell phones. If people don't realize, 455 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,159 if you set dates like that, you look at a 456 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:30,840 thousand years and that's what our country is, two hundred 457 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:37,800 and fiftieth anniversary, something like that. We've only been around. 458 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,559 This country's on even been around a drop in the 459 00:35:41,599 --> 00:35:47,360 bucket according to time, How has a planet evolved in 460 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:52,199 that thousand years? How many volcanoes? How many times do 461 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:59,719 the yellow Stone cold air erupt? Krakatoa blue Mount, Vesuvius Blue, 462 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:05,400 There's other called errors that have erupted in that thousand years. Cynomies. 463 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:15,119 We have no idea the size earthquakes. I think of 464 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,159 things like that. Just now we have a species bipedle 465 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:24,320 species that is unknown. Maybe in time we'll finally get 466 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:29,760 the answers from the government or find that defind to prove. 467 00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:32,719 If you claim you have a body, I guarantee they'll 468 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,599 come confiscated. Every big Foot that's been hit by a 469 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,920 vehicle and killed, the body disappears. They come in and 470 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,280 they have a special chemical. They worked the highway down 471 00:36:43,639 --> 00:36:47,679 so there's no trace as a DNA. What happened to 472 00:36:47,679 --> 00:36:52,480 the dead? Uh bigfoot? After they found after the Mount 473 00:36:52,519 --> 00:36:59,920 Hell's eruption, it's documented in the newspapers that them sling 474 00:37:00,039 --> 00:37:02,119 loading dead. But bigot, where do they go? Where do 475 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:06,679 they take them? It was just but we keep doing 476 00:37:06,679 --> 00:37:08,840 what we do and what we enjoy doing. And that's 477 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,920 that's the main thing. You got to enjoy doing it. 478 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,119 Don't go crazy about it, but just press the beer 479 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,239 and you'll learn. You'll learn. 480 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 1: I'm glad you found something you're so passionate about. That's 481 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:25,960 what life's all about. 482 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:26,760 Speaker 2: It is. 483 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,079 Speaker 1: It is a bit ago you stayed that you think 484 00:37:30,159 --> 00:37:33,800 sasquatch hybrid needs. Please go into more detail explaining your 485 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,239 theories on why they do that and how they do that. 486 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 2: It's like any mammals in the and I don't believe 487 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,360 they do it down south in the warmer, like Arizona 488 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,320 and all that. This more related up to the North 489 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:56,880 country of heavy snow ice winners. If you look squirrels, mice, 490 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,480 a lot of animals will go in to a hibernating 491 00:38:01,559 --> 00:38:06,039 species that all sleep. The bears do, but I think 492 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:13,400 Bigfoot will go into a semi hibernating state that during 493 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,719 the extreme colds. When they do that, their heart rate 494 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:24,639 slows down. They may wake up daring it bears annoying 495 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,360 to and wander around and return the way they've been hibernating. 496 00:38:30,159 --> 00:38:32,559 If you look at birth and everything, when does everything 497 00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:43,199 take place in the spring? Deer, elk, moose, the horses, cows, sheep, 498 00:38:46,519 --> 00:38:51,360 and I also believe they do do it somewhat hibernate 499 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,320 during the coldals part of the year. They may not 500 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,360 go into a whole hibernation, but the areas they've built 501 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:05,360 their nests, maybe in old mining mine tunnels, abandoned buildings, 502 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,280 anything to cut that wind. If you've ever been in 503 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,880 a cave or an old mine during the summer, it's cool, 504 00:39:14,559 --> 00:39:20,039 going there in the wintertime it's warm. There are natural 505 00:39:20,119 --> 00:39:25,800 thermal spots in the mountains, and I'm sure Bigfoot's fully 506 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:31,400 aware of those. It can be ten twenty zero and 507 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:36,559 you're in an area that might be thirty five degrees warm, 508 00:39:36,599 --> 00:39:38,639 though you can take your jacket up and sit on 509 00:39:38,679 --> 00:39:44,079 the ground. I know bigfoots aware of all those areas. 510 00:39:44,199 --> 00:39:46,440 He has a better understand those mountains than you do. 511 00:39:47,039 --> 00:39:50,440 Like I said, I spend a lifetime in these mountains 512 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:56,880 and I still learn every time I go out. Hibernation, bear, squirrels, 513 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:03,639 a lot of animals do hibernate. And I'm not talking 514 00:40:04,039 --> 00:40:06,800 down south where it's warm year around, and that I'm 515 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:12,400 talking or it gets real cold. Yeah, we may have 516 00:40:12,519 --> 00:40:17,480 a male bigfoot move around, except bears will to get 517 00:40:17,519 --> 00:40:22,719 up and move around, especially the Christlies. This year here 518 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:27,880 in western Montana, we haven't had a winter. The average 519 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,920 temperature this year than forty five in the wintertime, no 520 00:40:32,079 --> 00:40:35,320 snow except each of the Divide and everywhere else they're 521 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:40,639 getting hammering with snow. This is the warmest winner on record. 522 00:40:41,559 --> 00:40:45,519 So naturally the bears, they've already had bear sightings early. 523 00:40:46,039 --> 00:40:49,719 I think one of the first bear sightings was in March, 524 00:40:50,159 --> 00:40:50,840 which is early. 525 00:40:52,039 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 1: If they do go into a form of hibernation, do 526 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,039 you think it's a shallow one like bears, do you 527 00:40:57,039 --> 00:40:59,519 where they can wake up quickly? If they're disturbed or 528 00:41:00,119 --> 00:41:01,400 think it's too deep for that. 529 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:09,679 Speaker 2: I think it's cattleman. They come up instantaneous as they 530 00:41:09,679 --> 00:41:14,159 get disturbed, even if flick at the squirrels. They hibernate, 531 00:41:15,119 --> 00:41:17,199 but in the middle of winter you'll see him running around. 532 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:24,440 There are true ams of hibernate. They're toads that go 533 00:41:24,519 --> 00:41:28,039 into kind of I can't remember the name of, similar 534 00:41:28,039 --> 00:41:31,920 to hibernation. They can be in that stage for ten years. 535 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,719 They only appear when it rains. 536 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one heck of an adaptation. 537 00:41:38,199 --> 00:41:44,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, seeds that have been frozen in from afrost. No 538 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:50,840 rejuvenate was that they're planted. They found seeds in the 539 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:56,280 mammoth that they planted. It grew. Why is prehistoric trees 540 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,840 starting to appear around the world growing around the world. 541 00:41:59,639 --> 00:42:03,440 Plants you know that were extinct. You look at the 542 00:42:03,679 --> 00:42:08,639 fish fossil. Oh, it was finally caught off the coast 543 00:42:08,679 --> 00:42:12,000 of Africa. This is a fish. It was supposed to 544 00:42:12,039 --> 00:42:16,800 be extinct. You know, everything in life. If you fought 545 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:22,199 track of all evolutionary time, which I really been studying. 546 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,519 At one time, everything was large. Mammals are extremely large, 547 00:42:27,119 --> 00:42:31,119 Plants were large. But as the climate change they all 548 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:36,440 started downsizing to what we have today. You had the 549 00:42:36,679 --> 00:42:43,440 giant sloth, you had the giant cave bear, giant beavers. 550 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:49,199 The true prehistoric animals that are still alive are your 551 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:55,960 alligators and crocodiles. A lot of lizards we have are 552 00:42:56,039 --> 00:42:59,280 similar to what's back in for esoteric time. You got 553 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:04,480 the dragon lizard that can. It flares out and it 554 00:43:04,559 --> 00:43:11,119 runs on water. It's adapted species adapt to the environment. 555 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,199 Humans have a hard time doing that. We have to 556 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:23,079 have our shelters. We cannot survive a hard winter without shelter, 557 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:24,039 proper clothing. 558 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,360 Speaker 1: Speaking of winter, do you think sasquatch cash food for 559 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,639 the winter or do you think they're one hundred percent 560 00:43:30,679 --> 00:43:31,000 hand to. 561 00:43:31,079 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 2: Mouth if possible. I've never crossed come across anything indicating 562 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:44,320 they do. I'm not saying they don't. You get more 563 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,079 activity on the highways in the wintertime because of the 564 00:43:47,159 --> 00:43:52,079 road skill of bigfoot being seen. I know guys have 565 00:43:52,119 --> 00:43:54,119 gone hunting in that late hunts and that in the 566 00:43:54,159 --> 00:43:58,400 snow drops. Some they go out to get friends and 567 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,960 they come back and it's gone. It's not drug, it's 568 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:06,000 been carried away. Any animal that would die in the 569 00:44:06,039 --> 00:44:10,800 wintertime vicer's going to take a feed on it. They 570 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:16,599 are meat eaters, so partial hibernation, Yeah, very strongly, I 571 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:22,599 believe they do. Through the worst of the weather. When 572 00:44:22,639 --> 00:44:28,000 you're dealing with something that's so unknown, everything becomes a 573 00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:32,360 theory and every going to have their own theory about 574 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,760 Bigfoot and what it does. And like I tell people, 575 00:44:36,039 --> 00:44:38,800 what I talk about is based on my own personal 576 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:49,280 theories that I've developed through years of research af through observation. Now, 577 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,880 when I first started running a trap line, I learned 578 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:57,079 through observation of the animals I'm going to trap. I 579 00:44:57,199 --> 00:44:59,360 learned how to do it properly, how to skin and 580 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:05,400 all that which meat like the beaver. Beaver's actually and 581 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:10,159 teat so it's muskrat. But I do it from like 582 00:45:10,199 --> 00:45:12,880 I said, I do for me believe Bigfoot dusk go 583 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,599 into a semi hibernating state, especially the female. 584 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 1: Speaking of the females, You've got an interesting theory regarding 585 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:25,559 what happens with Sasquatch mothers from conception to birth. Please 586 00:45:25,599 --> 00:45:26,800 expand on that for us. 587 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,280 Speaker 2: Okay, I got to thinking about that. Nobody's ever talking 588 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:36,639 about when Bigfoot conceives Nobody's able to deserve it, so 589 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:42,840 I took a large larger primeates guerrilla, orangutan, chimpanze, and human. 590 00:45:44,079 --> 00:45:46,440 The term of birth is anywhere from eight and a 591 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:50,039 half months to nine months, humans being the longest. Most 592 00:45:50,079 --> 00:45:53,800 averages eight and a half months or to add those 593 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:58,280 all together and divide by four. If Bigfoot is a primate, 594 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,519 it puts it in eight and a half months, which 595 00:46:02,559 --> 00:46:06,239 means it's conceived in the fall and birth in the spring. 596 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:11,639 Time of plenty, you have baby birds, you have eggs, 597 00:46:11,679 --> 00:46:17,880 you have fish running, you have fonds calves. Everything's a 598 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:22,559 new birth if you look at bears, any animal out 599 00:46:22,599 --> 00:46:27,760 there that gives birth is in the spring. And I 600 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:32,599 think I'm not going to say I bet donus to 601 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,960 dollars on it, but I'm looking at eight and a 602 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:40,119 half months from conception to birth. That put it around 603 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:46,079 September that they conceive and early April May that they 604 00:46:46,159 --> 00:46:50,079 give birth. Once it's warmer. The female, I feel those 605 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,719 does go into a hibernating state. The male may bring 606 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:59,400 her food when she's awake. The mortality of baby big 607 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:04,119 but it's going to be high, so they're very protected. 608 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:09,039 Those that are born, they can be very aggressive, as 609 00:47:09,079 --> 00:47:15,679 many animals are around all they're babies. A cow moose 610 00:47:15,679 --> 00:47:18,320 will kill you if you get teene and his baby. 611 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:22,760 A bar will kill you because and the scumbs they 612 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:27,079 put no different. But i'm i'm. My theory is you're 613 00:47:27,119 --> 00:47:29,880 looking at us from conception to birth of eight and 614 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:30,960 half months. 615 00:47:31,599 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 1: That's an interesting theory. 616 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 2: Nobody's ever talked about it. 617 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, this is the first time I've heard 618 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,400 it mentioned. It seems like they have everything about their 619 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,320 lives figured out. If that's the case, I'm sure there 620 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,639 is definitely a reason for when they choose to time 621 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:48,960 the conception. 622 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's mate in the fall, you get birth in 623 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:58,599 the spring. Deer elk and all that they mate in 624 00:47:58,599 --> 00:48:02,000 the fall, they get birth in the spring. Everything is 625 00:48:02,039 --> 00:48:04,679 based on the spring. Humans are the only one that 626 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,760 can have babies anytime in the year, but all species 627 00:48:10,159 --> 00:48:16,400 our birth are. What I see is deer, elk, moose bears. 628 00:48:16,679 --> 00:48:24,320 A lot of animals will because it can see in 629 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,519 the fall, and they give birth in the spring. It's 630 00:48:28,559 --> 00:48:34,280 just not like fish and stuff. There's also new plants, watercrest, scumk, cabbage, 631 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,719 all this other greens out there too that are fresh growth, 632 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:44,400 baby cattail, rists are dynamite eat higbeaten big nose? Are 633 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,920 good Americans eat them? Like I said, it's only a 634 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:57,199 theory about birth of big put. But to me, I 635 00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,920 use the best approach I could to make that determination. 636 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,960 I said, humans carry the longest berth. Yeah, we have 637 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:10,119 premature verse. Yes, but the average birthtime is nine months 638 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,000 and the other one is of Beteam eight eight and 639 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:17,000 a half months. So I'm basing it off the DNA 640 00:49:17,199 --> 00:49:19,719 of an unknown primate. I'm looking at eight in a 641 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,320 half months from conception to bursting. 642 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:27,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it just might be right about that. You describe 643 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:31,400 Sasquatch as being evolving by pudal primates. Does that mean 644 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,159 that you're vehemently opposed to the idea that it just 645 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:35,800 might be spiritual beings. 646 00:49:37,679 --> 00:49:42,599 Speaker 2: Well, I always approach it like this, Victor. I've never 647 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:48,000 seen portals, I've never seen interdimensional and I'd say it 648 00:49:48,039 --> 00:49:55,159 doesn't happen. I'm not saying their descendants of able and 649 00:49:55,199 --> 00:49:59,199 them or any of that. I based everything on my 650 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:06,239 own first and experiences. Is it possible, Yes, I'm not 651 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,440 going to say it's not. I don't have a right 652 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,519 to sell something. Oh that's not true. That can't happen 653 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,199 because the way they look at the research is going 654 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,920 to be different than what I see. If they said, 655 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:21,960 oh I saw this thing come out of a portal, 656 00:50:23,039 --> 00:50:26,440 it seemed to be interdimensional, I'm not going to disclaim 657 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,360 it and put them down. If it's the other way, 658 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,000 like what you were talking about, I can't say no 659 00:50:32,159 --> 00:50:37,639 to that. I have to respect everybody's own opinion or 660 00:50:37,679 --> 00:50:44,360 how they're viewing something, because we're all different. We're all different. No. 661 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:49,239 I was raised very religious. Vietnam took care of that. 662 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,639 But that's okay. Now. I hear it all the time, 663 00:50:52,679 --> 00:50:55,400 Like dog man, I'm not going to say it doesn't exist. 664 00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:01,079 I've never encountered one. There are a few here in Montana. 665 00:51:01,519 --> 00:51:05,239 They've been reported one ere it's north of US. I 666 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,760 have yet to get to that area. I've been so 667 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:13,400 concentrated on bigfoot sasquatch that it's an area I may 668 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:18,320 look into something else that might get interested in. And 669 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:23,400 I know they're very aggressive, but being a spiritual aspect, 670 00:51:24,599 --> 00:51:31,599 it's possible. It's possible, and we all I think it's 671 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:39,320 individuals perception of something unknown that matters, like why does it? 672 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,960 Like when I work security in Kawai the grade school 673 00:51:43,079 --> 00:51:46,840 high school. That night, I'm walking checking doors down a 674 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,960 wooden walkway. What grabbed my shoulder and jerk me back? 675 00:51:51,039 --> 00:51:57,920 There's nobody there? What causes steel light falls to start 676 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:02,480 swaying when there's no wind? What turns on lights and 677 00:52:02,559 --> 00:52:05,719 water in an empty cabana when there's nobody in there. 678 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:14,360 It's the unexplained stuff that's you know, are you afraid? Possibly? 679 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,800 Most of my jobs I work graveyard shifts. I loved 680 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:28,320 working graveyard shifts, and we had one there on Kawhi 681 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,639 when I first started working, Scared of the hotel scurty graveyard, 682 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,159 there was a hayo by the park Livegate Park. I 683 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,599 sit by Zakouzie and you could see right through to 684 00:52:39,679 --> 00:52:42,400 the ocean. There was a young girl who would sing 685 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:46,000 there about every other night in Hawaii, but there was 686 00:52:46,039 --> 00:52:51,480 nobody sitting there. Do I discount it? No, I don't 687 00:52:51,519 --> 00:52:56,400 discount it. You know, each of us are going to 688 00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,679 form our own theories and that and we have to 689 00:52:59,679 --> 00:53:02,000 respect to each other for those theories. 690 00:53:03,199 --> 00:53:05,199 Speaker 1: One of the many reasons why I find you so 691 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,000 impressive there a Ken is the fact they hear you 692 00:53:08,039 --> 00:53:11,239 clearly know so much about these guys, but you're still 693 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,039 open to the fact that there's still a lot that 694 00:53:14,079 --> 00:53:16,519 you don't know about them. A lot of people, once 695 00:53:16,559 --> 00:53:19,119 they get to know a certain amount about a topic, 696 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,920 they just close off their minds and they think they 697 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,239 know pretty much all there is to know about that subject. 698 00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,199 But that's not you, And that's really impressive. 699 00:53:28,039 --> 00:53:30,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have an open mind. I mean I want 700 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:31,199 to learn. 701 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:31,760 Speaker 1: I want to hear. 702 00:53:32,039 --> 00:53:33,679 Speaker 2: If you've got a different view than me, I want 703 00:53:33,679 --> 00:53:39,400 to hear it because we have something in common. We've 704 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:45,719 witnessed something, even though it'd been different, you still experience 705 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:51,920 something very unique. You can't close your door mind to that. 706 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,559 Like I was telling that, I don't have much time 707 00:53:55,639 --> 00:54:00,880 lift in my life, and I'm living my life and 708 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,519 I'm enjoying my life what time I got left, And 709 00:54:04,559 --> 00:54:08,000 it's not being sitting on a pot chair feeling sorry 710 00:54:08,039 --> 00:54:11,679 for myself. I've never felt sorry for myself. I don't 711 00:54:11,679 --> 00:54:13,559 know how many times I've been knocked down in light 712 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,719 in the gutter, But you know what, I come out 713 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:22,519 standing on my own two feet and got better. And 714 00:54:22,639 --> 00:54:26,119 this is these books. It's actually my legacy to my 715 00:54:26,159 --> 00:54:27,159 group and my family. 716 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,239 Speaker 1: You can't keep a good man down there's a lot 717 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:31,920 of truth to that. 718 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, when I was young and dumb, I got 719 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,519 drunk in a bar and me and a friend decided 720 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:45,039 try to write a buffalo. If you could call that stupid, well. 721 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, not a good idea, not a good choice. But yeah, 722 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:49,599 we've all done stupid stuff like that. 723 00:54:50,039 --> 00:54:52,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank god there was a John Deere tractor there. 724 00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,440 You know, when he hit that tractor, almost tipped it over. 725 00:54:56,519 --> 00:54:58,920 But you know, when you're dumb, you don't think about stuff. 726 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,519 We used to ca We have a boy scouts up 727 00:55:01,599 --> 00:55:04,840 Gold Creek, and it's how crazy we were. It would 728 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,719 drift us may. We didn't go winter camping until it 729 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,960 was thirty blow zero thirty forty. We get buck ass 730 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,880 snake and set a log in the middle of the 731 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,760 Goat Creek. We go on the cliffs and we jump 732 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,519 off these cliffs into snow drift. You're talking thirty forty 733 00:55:20,519 --> 00:55:24,920 to fifty feet or higher. Well, yeah, we were nuts. 734 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,400 Speaker 1: You were burning at both ends, no doubt about that. 735 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. Like I said, I've been fortunate. I've got to 736 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,519 travel the world. Yeah, I served in Vietnam, and I'm 737 00:55:34,559 --> 00:55:36,559 proud of my service in Vietnam. 738 00:55:37,519 --> 00:55:38,559 Speaker 1: Thank you for your service. 739 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,480 Speaker 2: Thank you. And then I ended up in Germany before 740 00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,440 I got out of the military, and I got back 741 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:51,559 in the Army reserves over a bar bed And I'm 742 00:55:51,559 --> 00:55:54,719 the one who will take a challenge head on. If 743 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:56,960 you've got you're going to challenge, you better have some money, 744 00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,159 because I'll do. I'll attempt to challenge. 745 00:56:00,639 --> 00:56:03,079 Speaker 1: I'd challenge you to give me one hundred dollars skin. 746 00:56:04,079 --> 00:56:04,760 Speaker 2: What's your address? 747 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,480 Speaker 1: Uh No, I didn't think that was gonna work, but 748 00:56:09,519 --> 00:56:10,280 I had to try. 749 00:56:10,599 --> 00:56:16,159 Speaker 2: Nonetheless, I'll send it to you on my next royalty check. 750 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,519 Speaker 1: That sounds like a plan. That sounds good to me. 751 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. I do get royalty for my first book, So 752 00:56:23,519 --> 00:56:24,360 that makes it nice. 753 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,960 Speaker 1: Oh, that's got to make it nice. And speaking of 754 00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,559 that book, please take this opportunity to promote your first book, 755 00:56:31,679 --> 00:56:34,320 the new one you're working on in the Montana, Idaho 756 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:35,559 Bigfoot Research Group. 757 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:40,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. My first is a personal Quest to Understand 758 00:56:40,559 --> 00:56:46,840 Bigfoot and it is available on Amazon and paperback is 759 00:56:47,199 --> 00:56:49,360 nine to ninety nine. Of course hard covers a little 760 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,639 bit more in it. I talk about a lot of 761 00:56:52,639 --> 00:56:55,719 this stuff the group and I have come across and 762 00:56:55,840 --> 00:57:00,960 the time we've been out doing field research. The next 763 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:07,360 book's actually going to have photographs, photos taken off of 764 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:14,199 trail cams, the areas, what kind of territory we're actually 765 00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:18,960 doing our research in, so people can understand that the structures. 766 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:23,119 I'll have a whole chapter on structures alone, drawings of 767 00:57:23,199 --> 00:57:29,280 what I believe are bigfoot drawings already been told that 768 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,639 they will continue the group after I pass away all 769 00:57:33,719 --> 00:57:36,800 my stuff, all my field research equipment goes to the 770 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:43,559 group to continue continue, all my notes, all my sim 771 00:57:43,599 --> 00:57:47,920 cards and everything on them. But the next book, it, 772 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,079 according to the publisher, will be going international. He's talking 773 00:57:52,119 --> 00:57:56,000 twenty one different languages. So it's the sole process. But 774 00:57:56,280 --> 00:58:00,719 I won't send them any manuscript till I'm done, and 775 00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,840 I'm looking probably early winner this coming year, this year 776 00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:09,360 top before I'm ready to send it. But the group 777 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:13,079 we welcome anybody to join. We are on Facebook. If 778 00:58:13,119 --> 00:58:16,840 you look up mont in Idaho Bidfoot Research Group and 779 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,360 you want to join, make sure you answer the questions. 780 00:58:21,239 --> 00:58:26,000 My admin will deny anybody that doesn't answer the questions, 781 00:58:26,639 --> 00:58:29,760 even if you're in groups. We are in also because 782 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,239 one thing our primary goal is and rule is you 783 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,480 have to be respectful. Because all make comment you should 784 00:58:36,559 --> 00:58:39,039 kicked him out fast. He wasn't even done type and 785 00:58:39,079 --> 00:58:42,480 I said, I know I will not be disrespected, nor 786 00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:46,000 will I have any of my memories and be disrespected 787 00:58:46,039 --> 00:58:51,239 by somebody, because you all have something in common, wanting 788 00:58:51,679 --> 00:58:54,559 to know what Bigfoot is, wanting to learn about it. 789 00:58:55,719 --> 00:58:59,039 But I always appreciate when I talk to Vic. It's 790 00:58:59,079 --> 00:59:01,800 been a couple of years, and I actually brought up 791 00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:06,039 the last audio one I did for you. I keep 792 00:59:06,079 --> 00:59:13,960 all that stuff good man. Yeah, but I know running 793 00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,320 out of time, and I want to thank you Vic 794 00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:20,039 for having me on. And I want everybody out there 795 00:59:20,079 --> 00:59:23,239 to be safe, and those of you that are interested 796 00:59:23,239 --> 00:59:26,159 to get into the Bigfoot research, just take it slow, 797 00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:30,519 take it real slow, and you'll learn a lot. And 798 00:59:30,559 --> 00:59:33,880 I'm easy to get a hold of us through Facebook. 799 00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,679 Speaker 1: And so that everyone listening news, I'm going to put 800 00:59:36,719 --> 00:59:40,760 a link to the Montana, Idaho Bigfoot Research Group Facebook 801 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:44,039 page and the description for tonight's show. That'll make it 802 00:59:44,039 --> 00:59:45,280 really easy for you to find. 803 00:59:46,159 --> 00:59:48,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate it, and I appreciate it. 804 00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,360 Speaker 1: Oh, glad to do it. But having said that, Ken, 805 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,320 I can't thank you enough for coming on to share 806 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,639 all those experiences and all this info with us. I 807 00:59:57,719 --> 00:59:58,920 really do appreciate it. 808 01:00:00,039 --> 01:00:02,079 Speaker 2: I'm glad you had me and I'm glad you're contacted 809 01:00:02,159 --> 01:00:07,360 me again. Like I said, it's one subject I'm learning 810 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,639 every year. Every day I'm learning more and more and 811 01:00:11,679 --> 01:00:13,639 I have more and more happening. So maybe down the 812 01:00:13,679 --> 01:00:14,840 road we can do another one. 813 01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,639 Speaker 1: Just let me know. You're a great ambassador for the field. 814 01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,679 So yeah, I mean, it's always great to have you on. 815 01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:24,000 So thank you for your time. 816 01:00:24,639 --> 01:00:27,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, Vick, and for everybody else you all 817 01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:28,559 be safe and God bless you. 818 01:00:29,719 --> 01:00:37,199 Speaker 1: Thanks so much and have a good night. 819 01:00:38,079 --> 01:00:41,719 Speaker 3: That's it for another episode of Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio with 820 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,559 Vic Kendiff. If you've had a sasquatch encounter and would 821 01:00:45,599 --> 01:00:47,599 like to be a guest on the show, please go 822 01:00:47,679 --> 01:00:51,519 to Bigfoot Eyewitness dot com and submit a report. We'd 823 01:00:51,559 --> 01:00:55,800 love to hear from you. Thanks for listening, have a 824 01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,360 great night.