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if this feels like groundhog Day, it's not, but it
kind of sort of is because local Democrats are still
very angry about Carla Cunningham voting with the Republicans to
pass a bill to override the governor's veto. Cunningham is
a Democrat state representative in Charlotte, and she voted to
override the Democratic governor Josh Stein's veto of the Immigration
Enforcement bill that would force local sheriff's offices to fully
cooperate with ICE. Because sheriffs like ours here in Mecklenburg
County Gary not my fault. McFadden, our illustrious sheriff. When
he's not letting people loose, he's frustrated that his command
staff forces him to use racial epithets, but she voted
with the Republicans and this has gotten the Democrats very angry.
Last week I played clips of the full was it
last week or maybe it was two weeks ago. I
guess it was last week, and I played her full
speech ran about six minutes. She was interrupted twice by
Democrats and leftists. The first was the first interruption was
a bunch of the people in the gallery that started
coughing and clearing their throats really loudly, you know, like
that kind of thing, and the Speaker of the House,
Deston Hall, had to gabble them down and say act
like adults. Basically, by the way, we're going to have
Speaker of the House Deston Hall on the show here
at two o'clock, so third hour of the show today
will be chatting with him. They've still got more vetos
to get through, but on this one they need on
all veto overrides. They need a Democrat on board because
they are one seat shy of a super majority, and
so Carla Cunningham was that Democrat vote and she got
up and explained her vote in this speech. Again, she
got interrupted by the peanut gallery and then she got
interrupted by a fellow Democrat lawmaker deb we will not yeah,
mister speaker Butler from New Hanover County, who is very
theatrical in her performances, and she attempted to shut down
Cunningham by calling the question basically, I call for a vote,
just like the and floor debate, and let's just move
the question. She did not want Cunningham to be able
to finish explaining why she wanted this vote or why
she wanted to side with the Republicans, and her comments
were directed mainly at Democrats and Democrat voters, explaining herself
and her colleague did not want her to be able
to do that. And immediately afterwards then we start getting
all of the condemnations from her fellow Democrats. We had
the senatement minority leader Sidney Batch, Democrat, who ripped into Cunningham.
We saw an op or, well not an op ed,
but a column in the Charlotte Observer by Paige Mastin.
Speaker 2: The opinion editor.
Speaker 1: She ripped into Cunningham saying how dare she say what
she said? And what is it that she said? Well,
I will play this clip again. This was the clip
that I played for State Representative Caleb or sorry, State
Senator Caleb Tedros from Charlotte. I had him on the show.
I think that might have been Monday, and I played
this clip for him because he had put out a
statement saying that there's no room for what she said
in the Democrat Party. And in his post on substack
this statement, he said that her comment is dangerous and divisive.
Here's what she said, and here's the clip I played
for him because this is the one that he quoted.
Speaker 3: First, as a people, we need to recognize that it's
not just the numbers that matth, but also where the
immigrants come from and the culture they bring with them
to another country. As the social scientists report, all cultures.
Speaker 1: Are not equal.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 3: Some immigrants come and believe they can function and isolation,
refusing to adapt. They have come to our country for
many reasons, but I suggest they must assimilate, adapt to
the culture of the country they wish to live in.
Speaker 1: So that's what got her in all the trouble because
she said all cultures are not equal. And so when
I had Senator ted Dross on and I asked him, like,
you said that that's divisive and dangerous. So are you
making the argument that all cultures are equal? And he
tap danced around in he said, well, you know, I
don't mean it like that. It's the context of what
she was talking about. And I said, okay, well what's
the context?
Speaker 2: And well the bill.
Speaker 1: Okay, but the bill was about enforcement of illegal immigration law, right,
so what was what's the context? And he never explained
the context. So now we have yet another Democrat organization
weighing in on this against Carla Cunningham. Here's from the
Charlotte Observer Sophia Bailey and Avi Bajpai. Their story begins
THUSLYE Representative Carla Cunningham's fiery speech about immigration on the
House floor last week continues to draw a major pushback
from fellow Democrats and hints of appetite within some corners
of the party for a primary challenge. Okay, there aren't.
These are not hints. There are Democrats that are calling
for her to be primary down and the Young Democrats
of North Carolina, the official youth arm of the state party,
joined the chorus of intra party voices condemning Cunningham's remarks.
Here is what the Young Democrats put out following her
vote overri Governor Stein's veto of anti immigrant legislation. It's
not it's an illegal immigration enforcement. See again, stop conflating
illegal with legal immigration. They are different. Representative Cunningham disgraced
her office with a hate filled speech. It wasn't actually
hate filled. She didn't say anything hateful towards anybody. She
was talking about the need to assimilate into the American society.
When people come here, and when you come in such
large numbers and then you self isolate and you refuse
to assimilate, that creates problems because cultures clash on things
they do not agree with each other on. And when
you bring in too many people that have a difference
in cultural norms that clashes with the home country, you're
going to have bigger problems.
Speaker 2: That's what she was saying.
Speaker 1: And by the way, she's one hundred percent correct, one
hundred percent correct. Of note, the Taliban this week announced
the reinstitution of the stoning of women. Yeah, they're bringing
it back because they haven't had themselves a good stoning
in quite a while, been about thirty something years, and
so now they're bringing it back where they get to,
you know, accuse a woman of adultery, bury her up
to her shoulders and pelt her with large rocks until
she is dead. Yes, that is a cultural norm I
wish to not import. That's just me, I would say
on the ledger of good culture bad culture. If we're
doing a comparison, if you stone women to death based
on an allegation of adultery, I think you're a worse culture.
And I think that gives the other culture in comparison
a lot oflyway, unless they're murdering people based on accusations
and only one gender, by the way, like, unless that's
the case, like, there's that other culture gets to do
quite a bit in order to offset that scale.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: They go on to say, to say all cultures are
not equal is completely disqualifying and has no place in
our party.
Speaker 2: See what are they doing.
Speaker 1: They're doing the same thing that the Coffers and deb
Butler did. Just shut up, Cunningham, that's what they're saying
to her. They cannot argue the merits, just like teddros
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it debate, but I guess this is what passes for
it in the Democrat Party, It's like they are incapable
of discussing the actual issue and this Carla Cunningham speech
is a perfect example of it.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: The Young Democrats put Yeah, the Young Democrats in North
Carolina put out this statement attacking her, and they say
immigration is an unqualified good. Well, wait a minute, what
kind of immigration? See immigration? I would agree that immigration,
legal immigration is good.
Speaker 2: I know about unqualified good.
Speaker 1: Because if you just have you know, open borders with
legal immigration just as sort of a rubber stamp on
millions and millions or billions of people, like I don't
know if that's an unqualified good. But controlled legal immigration
I would agree good.
Speaker 2: I want that.
Speaker 1: I want people who want to participate in the American
project to come here. I want to want them to
bring their skills and their ambition, their entrepreneurship, their love
of freedom right, their willingness to be self reliant.
Speaker 2: I want all of those people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, illegal immigration, Well you know, now, I don't know
who's signing the guest book on the way in. They
say diversity is an unqualified good, and that is flat
out false. There are good things to diversity, but there
are also bad things about diversity. There are there are challenges,
and you are a fool if you are blind to that.
When you put people together who have competing visions of
what a society should be doing and what is good
or bad. They don't have the same they don't have
similar views on civil rights. For example. No, it's not
necessarily a good thing. Like you guys are the fish
that doesn't know it's wet. Like you've just grown up
as young democrats. You've just grown up in this multi
plural society, multiplural, multicultural, pluralistic society, let's say that. But
I guess multiplural could be an amalgamation of the two terms. Anyway,
you've just grown up in this society and you think that, oh,
this is normal. This is not normal. Okay, this experiment
of America is unique. This is what American exceptionalism is about.
It is the exception to the way societies have been
ordered throughout all of human history. That's what makes us
so special. But that takes work and tolerance. Yes, but
when you have people of diverse opinions about things in
the society, you get friction. So it's not always an
unqualified good. And then they go on to quote the
statue of a liberty poem because you remember when that
got adopted into the US Constitution, right, And then they
say we are better because of the immigrant communities who
call our country, state, and cities home.
Speaker 2: Legal immigrant, legal immigrant.
Speaker 1: Cunningham's constituents deserve better than a representative who rejects this ideal.
She doesn't, right, she doesn't. And by the way, I
would say we are better because of the immigrant communities
who call our country, state, and cities home. I would say, no,
we are better when immigrants come to America and call
themselves Americans. That's what makes us better, not just like, oh,
this is my home, and you know, I'll maybe go
back home to that other place, or I'll go someplace
else and that'll be home. They said that Cunningham's floor
speech dehumanizes her neighbors, which it did not. Here's the
thing when you create subgroups of oppressed peoples as your coalition,
your diverse coalition, which according to them, is an unqualified good.
Right note the reaction. They're saying diversity is an unqualified good.
But when someone has a different opinion than they do,
they savage her and they threaten her with a primary
because that's what this statement is doing. You'll be held
accountable by your community. Good luck.
Speaker 2: They've made, They've.
Speaker 1: Solicited and supported primary challenges in the past against Cecil Brockman.
He won his re election in the primary very close
Michael Ray Democrat. Also he lost his primary after being
targeted for crossing Governor Cooper Mecklimberg County Democrat party chair
Wesley Harris told WFAE that he has received calls from
Democrats across the state who want the party to help
put up a primary challenger to her. To Cunningham, Harris
told wfa that he cannot weigh in during primaries. I
don't get to pick who is a Democrat and who isn't.
And I agree with him on that that's Roy Cooper's job.
Any challenge has to come from their district.
Speaker 2: He said.
Speaker 1: When you create all of these little subgroups of the oppressed,
you cannot be surprised when they get angry, much like
the young Democrats are now angry. You can't be surprised
when they get angry. That's some other subgroup in the
coalition is getting or is perceived to be getting preferential
treatment by the group leaders. And that's what Cunningham was articulating.
That's what she was saying.
Speaker 2: She got it.
Speaker 1: The first thing she said was I am an a
DOS is what she said, ADS.
Speaker 2: I think it.
Speaker 1: Stands for I'd never heard this term before. She said
it afric or is it African descendant or American descendant
of slaves?
Speaker 2: I think is what she said. A DOS is what
the acronym is. Right.
Speaker 1: So she is a participant and member of a subgroup
in the Democrat coalition, one of the oppressed classes that
Democrats keep telling their fellow Americans that you are an
oppressed class. Here's how you're oppressed, and here's the oppressor,
White Republicans basically, right, So when you when you start
forcing that victimhood mentality into your subgroups and then aligning
all of these subgroups based on their perceived depression and
telling them gonna, we're gonna champion your causes and they're
all gonna be equal. They're all our top priority, which,
of course is garbage. You cannot have one hundred top priorities.
One of them is going to be the top one, right,
There's only one that's the top. And so what she
was saying is that she's tired of her priorities as
a member of one of the subgroups being brushed aside
for the priorities of another one of your subgroups. That
is a normal dynamic that happens in politics all the time.
Republicans have different subgroups as well, different you know, around
policy preferences and and you know things they want to say,
tax rates, over foreign wars, over whatever. Like, they're different
subgroups over there too. But this the Democrats, is based
on identity. And when she sees prioritization being given now
to some other subgroup, that's what she's for. That that's
what she's pushing back against. And the Democrat's.
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Message from Eric regarding the all Cultures are Equal argument
that Democrats still are having saying that they are all equal,
all cultures are equal, and how dare Democrat Carla Cunningham
say otherwise when she supported the local sheriff being forced
to cooperate with ICE to remove illegal aliens, criminal illegal
aliens that end up at the jail. Right people who
get arrested for something, they end up at the jail.
That's who we're talking about. And so they've been savaging her,
attacking her and making this argument without any evidence, to
quote a phrase that's in vogue now, without any evidence,
saying that her comments are dangerous and divisive to say
that all cultures are not equal.
Speaker 2: But she is correct, they are not all equal.
Speaker 1: That's not to say that you go out and target
them or attack them or anything like that. It's just
recognizing that if we get to pick and choose as
a nation state who we would like to admit into
our nation, then we have to make some sort of
value judgment about the people who are coming in. And
if you are coming from a culture that says, you
know what our cultural norm and I'm just going to
make one up here is to you know, murder every
one of our neighbors just because they're.
Speaker 2: Not like us.
Speaker 1: No okay, wait that's humas, that's uh okay, never mind.
So like, but there you go, Like, would you allow
Amas to come in?
Speaker 2: Why not?
Speaker 1: Because it's a deaf cult, right, It's a deaf cult
that wants to murder every infidel. So no, I don't
want any of them moving into America. So Eric says
on the UH text line driven by Liberty Buick gmc,
so are they saying a culture that has public executions
for gay people or says women should be totally subservient
to men and that culture is no worse than any
other and an unqualified good that should be accepted here.
See Eric, that's the kind of question that they will
not answer, just like Senator teddros would not answer that question.
They don't want to have to defend their position. And
I don't blame them for not thinking they have to,
because media never makes them defend these decisions. They never
ask the Democrats why or what evidence do you have
that supports that claim?
Speaker 2: They never ask them that.
Speaker 1: King Daddy texts in and says, I guess the Democrats
don't feel like we should listen to all women anymore.
So across the pond, Britain's Labor government or is it
labor Lebauer They put a you in their words. For
some reason, the Labor government is in trouble. It's program
of massive Third World immigration from places like Pakistan, sorry
Pakistan and Somalia is wildly overwhelmingly unpopular. Glenn Reynolds at
The New York Post says that that's not even the
real problem. The real problem is that, despite the best
efforts of Prime Minister Geter Sturmer and his leftist captive media,
Britain's themselves have discovered just how unpopular it is. And
you might think that's absurd, right if mass immigration and
let's be clear, this is illegal immigration. And also let's
be clear that despite Britain giving millions of dollars to
the French to try to stop to have the French
stop the people from getting on all the boats from France,
and France is aiding and abetting this invasion of Britain.
Like that's part of the story too. The French are
not cracking down on this. They're allowing these operations to occur.
And once they start, you know, going into the water,
then maritime law says you got to rescue these people.
And now they're in your country. So you may think, well,
how is it that not everybody knows mass illegal immigration
is so unpopular. Well, everybody doesn't know it, Reynolds says,
because the government has been policing speech about immigration. The
point of this is not to reduce racism or hate,
but to make it harder for people to realize just
how many of their fellow citizens feel the same way
they do. That's why you police the speech. This is
what Rush law and the audience that he had recognized,
and it's what made him so popular, was that he
got on the radio and he said things that many,
many millions of people agreed with but thought nobody else
thought like they did because they weren't hearing any of
these arguments being articulated. Rush gets on the air, and
now they hear somebody saying the same thing, like that's
what I think too. I thought I was alone. And
then you hear people call in and they're like, I
think the same thing. And then you get a permission structure,
which is what happened with Trump in the last election.
Right when all of a sudden, Elon Musk comes out
and you get other people that are like, you know,
oh my god, like Zuckerberg, even he's like, man, he
looked pretty cool and he stood up, fight fight fight, Right,
It granted permission for people to say, you know, this
is cool, this is okay, I can do this. Britain
has been persecuting people who have been trying to call
attention to the problem, and as the government gives light
sentences to child rapists there, it then imprisons moms for
tweets on the grounds of inciting race hatred. They're literally
going into people's homes based on Facebook posts. And the
whole point of this effort is to construct and maintain
something known as a preference falsification, which I'd never heard
of before. This is usually found in authoritarian regimes. The
trick is here with a preference falsification is that you
make citizens pretend that they believe what the government says
when they really don't, but you force them to pretend.
You make them pretend that they believe it, and fake
their approval of what the government does. You promote marches
and demonstrations and speech all in favor of the government's
preferred positions, and you severely punish marches, demonstrations, and speech
that oppose the government's favored positions. And if you do
it right, you can have like ninety percent of your
population hating you and your policies but doing and saying
absolutely nothing about them. Because everybody in that ninety percent
thinks they're part of a tiny minority. Resistance seems to
be futile. And it works until it doesn't. This is
the problem that Britain is facing right now. It's starting
to not work anymore. The problem with preference falsification Reynolds
rights is that sooner or later, some event or some
development can make people realize that what they have been
told to is popular is in fact very unpopular. They
realize they are the majority opinion. When that happens, As
Duke University scholar Timor Kiran writes in his book Private Truths,
Public Lies, the result is a preference cascade. I've talked
about preference cascades for years. Think of it in this term.
Slowly at first, then very quickly. That's a preference cascade.
That was Russe Limbaugh's rise, a preference cascade. All of
a sudden, people realize I'm not the only one that's
my preference. More people see that preference displayed, and they
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When when you have a large swath of the population
wake up and realize that their dissident views are in
fact widely held, well, then they become less afraid of
the government and less hesitant about sharing their true sentiments,
and that can be very dangerous for a regime that
has been gaslighting them. Right this is all from a
piece by Glenn Reynolds.
Speaker 2: Well not all.
Speaker 1: I've been peppering in my own thoughts as I go
Glenn Reynolds at the New York Post. Glenn Reynolds, by
the way, is a professor of law at the University
of Tennessee and he is the founder of the Instapundit blog.
Instapundit dot com is the website. So what's happening now
in Britain? People are waking up to the realization that
the majority of them actually agree with each other and
not the government after a string of cases in which
migrants sexually assaulted local girls and women. See, this has
been a problem going on in Britain for probably a
decade now, and you've reached critical mass. There are so
many victims and the government's efforts to keep a lid
on the story has not worked. Thanks to the rise
of new media podcasters, you know, British based YouTuber and stuff.
They've been covering these stories and the more they cover them,
the more people realize that what they had heard or
what they had experienced is actually pretty common now. So
now they've started taking to the streets. There have been
demonstrations in Britain over the last two weeks. The demonstrations
are too big to hide. It's not like twelve people
in front of some you know, gas station, much like
the UH the No King's.
Speaker 2: Rally or the UH what was it?
Speaker 1: The Rage against the Regime protest last weekend here in
the States. These are too big to hide. They're cropping
up in every corner of the nation, organized largely on
Facebook and other social media. After London police I saw
this story when it happened the other day. They tried
to ban protesting outside of one of these migrant hotels
literally hotel where the government is putting up all of
these migrants. They're paying for their room and board, giving
them stipends and such authorities. They first tried to ban
the protest, and then they walked it back with a
clarification that the ban applied only to specific protesters, just
people with these names like Tommy Robinson.
Speaker 2: I gots it questionable.
Speaker 1: Groups of masked, thuggish counter protesters have been allegedly delivered
two marches in police buses. They're literally bussing people in
to counter protest the British protesters who are demanding a
stop to this illegal immigration that is changing the very society.
When they tried to bring one of these buses in,
though they found themselves outnumbered and were pushed back by
the crowds, by the British crowds, shoving them back into
the vans. I didn't think the Brits had it in them.
I thought anybody that would behave that way already immigrated
to America. But sometimes, Reynolds writes, preference cascades presage major
political changes. Other times, as in the infamous case of
Nicholas Chichescu's Communist Romania, they produce violent revolution. The one
thing about preference falsification is that a lot of times
it keeps the It keeps not just the people in
the dark, but really even not so much, because the
people know what's going on around them in their daily lives,
their real lives, and they just pretend to go along
with this fake news from the government. Right, what's the
joke from communist Russia? It was the old Soviet Union.
They would say, like, we listen to the news and
we pretend that they're not lying to us, and they
pretend that we don't know they're lying to us. They
would watch the news just to know what the government
wanted them to believe, not that they believed it, they
just would watch it to know what the propaganda was.
But not only does it try to deceive the public,
but it also keeps the government itself in the dark too.
In Chichescu's case, he genuinely believed that his people loved him,
right up until he was dragged out of his mansion
and shot. The British establishment would have been better served
to let its citizens to debate the immigration question openly
and fairly, but it didn't do that because it knew
it would lose such a debate, so it foisted open
borders on a nation that did not want that, and
then try to silence the opposition. And now we are
watching as the regime's strategy collapses and the preference cascade
is in the very fast phase.
Speaker 2: Right. It was slowly at first and then very quickly.
Speaker 1: Is this going to end Keir Starmer's career, result in
his ouster or worse violence? I'm seeing a lot of
people talking about the potential for violence in Britain coming
their way.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't make predictions, but it'd have been better off
just having the debate, all right, that'll do it for
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