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And again, thank you so much for your support. All Right, so,

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if this feels like groundhog Day, it's not, but it

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kind of sort of is because local Democrats are still

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very angry about Carla Cunningham voting with the Republicans to

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pass a bill to override the governor's veto. Cunningham is

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a Democrat state representative in Charlotte, and she voted to

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override the Democratic governor Josh Stein's veto of the Immigration

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Enforcement bill that would force local sheriff's offices to fully

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cooperate with ICE. Because sheriffs like ours here in Mecklenburg

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County Gary not my fault. McFadden, our illustrious sheriff. When

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he's not letting people loose, he's frustrated that his command

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staff forces him to use racial epithets, but she voted

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with the Republicans and this has gotten the Democrats very angry.

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Last week I played clips of the full was it

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last week or maybe it was two weeks ago. I

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guess it was last week, and I played her full

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speech ran about six minutes. She was interrupted twice by

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Democrats and leftists. The first was the first interruption was

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a bunch of the people in the gallery that started

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coughing and clearing their throats really loudly, you know, like

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that kind of thing, and the Speaker of the House,

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Deston Hall, had to gabble them down and say act

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like adults. Basically, by the way, we're going to have

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Speaker of the House Deston Hall on the show here

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at two o'clock, so third hour of the show today

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will be chatting with him. They've still got more vetos

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to get through, but on this one they need on

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all veto overrides. They need a Democrat on board because

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they are one seat shy of a super majority, and

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so Carla Cunningham was that Democrat vote and she got

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up and explained her vote in this speech. Again, she

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got interrupted by the peanut gallery and then she got

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interrupted by a fellow Democrat lawmaker deb we will not yeah,

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mister speaker Butler from New Hanover County, who is very

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theatrical in her performances, and she attempted to shut down

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Cunningham by calling the question basically, I call for a vote,

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just like the and floor debate, and let's just move

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the question. She did not want Cunningham to be able

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to finish explaining why she wanted this vote or why

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she wanted to side with the Republicans, and her comments

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were directed mainly at Democrats and Democrat voters, explaining herself

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and her colleague did not want her to be able

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to do that. And immediately afterwards then we start getting

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all of the condemnations from her fellow Democrats. We had

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the senatement minority leader Sidney Batch, Democrat, who ripped into Cunningham.

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We saw an op or, well not an op ed,

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but a column in the Charlotte Observer by Paige Mastin.

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Speaker 2: The opinion editor.

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Speaker 1: She ripped into Cunningham saying how dare she say what

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she said? And what is it that she said? Well,

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I will play this clip again. This was the clip

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that I played for State Representative Caleb or sorry, State

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Senator Caleb Tedros from Charlotte. I had him on the show.

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I think that might have been Monday, and I played

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this clip for him because he had put out a

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statement saying that there's no room for what she said

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in the Democrat Party. And in his post on substack

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this statement, he said that her comment is dangerous and divisive.

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Here's what she said, and here's the clip I played

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for him because this is the one that he quoted.

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Speaker 3: First, as a people, we need to recognize that it's

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not just the numbers that matth, but also where the

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immigrants come from and the culture they bring with them

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to another country. As the social scientists report, all cultures.

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Speaker 1: Are not equal.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 3: Some immigrants come and believe they can function and isolation,

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refusing to adapt. They have come to our country for

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many reasons, but I suggest they must assimilate, adapt to

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the culture of the country they wish to live in.

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Speaker 1: So that's what got her in all the trouble because

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she said all cultures are not equal. And so when

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I had Senator ted Dross on and I asked him, like,

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you said that that's divisive and dangerous. So are you

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making the argument that all cultures are equal? And he

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tap danced around in he said, well, you know, I

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don't mean it like that. It's the context of what

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she was talking about. And I said, okay, well what's

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the context?

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Speaker 2: And well the bill.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but the bill was about enforcement of illegal immigration law, right,

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so what was what's the context? And he never explained

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the context. So now we have yet another Democrat organization

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weighing in on this against Carla Cunningham. Here's from the

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Charlotte Observer Sophia Bailey and Avi Bajpai. Their story begins

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THUSLYE Representative Carla Cunningham's fiery speech about immigration on the

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House floor last week continues to draw a major pushback

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from fellow Democrats and hints of appetite within some corners

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of the party for a primary challenge. Okay, there aren't.

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These are not hints. There are Democrats that are calling

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for her to be primary down and the Young Democrats

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of North Carolina, the official youth arm of the state party,

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joined the chorus of intra party voices condemning Cunningham's remarks.

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Here is what the Young Democrats put out following her

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vote overri Governor Stein's veto of anti immigrant legislation. It's

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not it's an illegal immigration enforcement. See again, stop conflating

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illegal with legal immigration. They are different. Representative Cunningham disgraced

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her office with a hate filled speech. It wasn't actually

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hate filled. She didn't say anything hateful towards anybody. She

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was talking about the need to assimilate into the American society.

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When people come here, and when you come in such

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large numbers and then you self isolate and you refuse

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to assimilate, that creates problems because cultures clash on things

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they do not agree with each other on. And when

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you bring in too many people that have a difference

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in cultural norms that clashes with the home country, you're

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going to have bigger problems.

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Speaker 2: That's what she was saying.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, she's one hundred percent correct, one

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hundred percent correct. Of note, the Taliban this week announced

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the reinstitution of the stoning of women. Yeah, they're bringing

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it back because they haven't had themselves a good stoning

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in quite a while, been about thirty something years, and

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so now they're bringing it back where they get to,

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you know, accuse a woman of adultery, bury her up

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to her shoulders and pelt her with large rocks until

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she is dead. Yes, that is a cultural norm I

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wish to not import. That's just me, I would say

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on the ledger of good culture bad culture. If we're

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doing a comparison, if you stone women to death based

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on an allegation of adultery, I think you're a worse culture.

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And I think that gives the other culture in comparison

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a lot oflyway, unless they're murdering people based on accusations

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and only one gender, by the way, like, unless that's

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the case, like, there's that other culture gets to do

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quite a bit in order to offset that scale.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: They go on to say, to say all cultures are

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not equal is completely disqualifying and has no place in

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our party.

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Speaker 2: See what are they doing.

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Speaker 1: They're doing the same thing that the Coffers and deb

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Butler did. Just shut up, Cunningham, that's what they're saying

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to her. They cannot argue the merits, just like teddros

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it debate, but I guess this is what passes for

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it in the Democrat Party, It's like they are incapable

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of discussing the actual issue and this Carla Cunningham speech

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is a perfect example of it.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: The Young Democrats put Yeah, the Young Democrats in North

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Carolina put out this statement attacking her, and they say

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immigration is an unqualified good. Well, wait a minute, what

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kind of immigration? See immigration? I would agree that immigration,

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legal immigration is good.

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Speaker 2: I know about unqualified good.

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Speaker 1: Because if you just have you know, open borders with

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legal immigration just as sort of a rubber stamp on

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millions and millions or billions of people, like I don't

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know if that's an unqualified good. But controlled legal immigration

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I would agree good.

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Speaker 2: I want that.

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Speaker 1: I want people who want to participate in the American

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project to come here. I want to want them to

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bring their skills and their ambition, their entrepreneurship, their love

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of freedom right, their willingness to be self reliant.

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Speaker 2: I want all of those people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, illegal immigration, Well you know, now, I don't know

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who's signing the guest book on the way in. They

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say diversity is an unqualified good, and that is flat

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out false. There are good things to diversity, but there

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are also bad things about diversity. There are there are challenges,

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and you are a fool if you are blind to that.

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When you put people together who have competing visions of

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what a society should be doing and what is good

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or bad. They don't have the same they don't have

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similar views on civil rights. For example. No, it's not

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necessarily a good thing. Like you guys are the fish

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that doesn't know it's wet. Like you've just grown up

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as young democrats. You've just grown up in this multi

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plural society, multiplural, multicultural, pluralistic society, let's say that. But

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I guess multiplural could be an amalgamation of the two terms. Anyway,

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you've just grown up in this society and you think that, oh,

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this is normal. This is not normal. Okay, this experiment

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of America is unique. This is what American exceptionalism is about.

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It is the exception to the way societies have been

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ordered throughout all of human history. That's what makes us

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so special. But that takes work and tolerance. Yes, but

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when you have people of diverse opinions about things in

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the society, you get friction. So it's not always an

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unqualified good. And then they go on to quote the

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statue of a liberty poem because you remember when that

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got adopted into the US Constitution, right, And then they

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say we are better because of the immigrant communities who

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call our country, state, and cities home.

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Speaker 2: Legal immigrant, legal immigrant.

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Speaker 1: Cunningham's constituents deserve better than a representative who rejects this ideal.

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She doesn't, right, she doesn't. And by the way, I

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would say we are better because of the immigrant communities

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who call our country, state, and cities home. I would say, no,

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we are better when immigrants come to America and call

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themselves Americans. That's what makes us better, not just like, oh,

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this is my home, and you know, I'll maybe go

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back home to that other place, or I'll go someplace

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else and that'll be home. They said that Cunningham's floor

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speech dehumanizes her neighbors, which it did not. Here's the

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thing when you create subgroups of oppressed peoples as your coalition,

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your diverse coalition, which according to them, is an unqualified good.

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Right note the reaction. They're saying diversity is an unqualified good.

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But when someone has a different opinion than they do,

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they savage her and they threaten her with a primary

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because that's what this statement is doing. You'll be held

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accountable by your community. Good luck.

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Speaker 2: They've made, They've.

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Speaker 1: Solicited and supported primary challenges in the past against Cecil Brockman.

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He won his re election in the primary very close

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Michael Ray Democrat. Also he lost his primary after being

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targeted for crossing Governor Cooper Mecklimberg County Democrat party chair

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Wesley Harris told WFAE that he has received calls from

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Democrats across the state who want the party to help

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put up a primary challenger to her. To Cunningham, Harris

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told wfa that he cannot weigh in during primaries. I

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don't get to pick who is a Democrat and who isn't.

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And I agree with him on that that's Roy Cooper's job.

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Any challenge has to come from their district.

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Speaker 2: He said.

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Speaker 1: When you create all of these little subgroups of the oppressed,

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you cannot be surprised when they get angry, much like

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the young Democrats are now angry. You can't be surprised

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when they get angry. That's some other subgroup in the

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coalition is getting or is perceived to be getting preferential

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treatment by the group leaders. And that's what Cunningham was articulating.

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That's what she was saying.

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Speaker 2: She got it.

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Speaker 1: The first thing she said was I am an a

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DOS is what she said, ADS.

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Speaker 2: I think it.

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Speaker 1: Stands for I'd never heard this term before. She said

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it afric or is it African descendant or American descendant

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of slaves?

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Speaker 2: I think is what she said. A DOS is what

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the acronym is. Right.

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Speaker 1: So she is a participant and member of a subgroup

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in the Democrat coalition, one of the oppressed classes that

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Democrats keep telling their fellow Americans that you are an

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oppressed class. Here's how you're oppressed, and here's the oppressor,

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White Republicans basically, right, So when you when you start

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forcing that victimhood mentality into your subgroups and then aligning

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all of these subgroups based on their perceived depression and

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telling them gonna, we're gonna champion your causes and they're

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all gonna be equal. They're all our top priority, which,

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of course is garbage. You cannot have one hundred top priorities.

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One of them is going to be the top one, right,

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There's only one that's the top. And so what she

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was saying is that she's tired of her priorities as

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a member of one of the subgroups being brushed aside

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for the priorities of another one of your subgroups. That

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is a normal dynamic that happens in politics all the time.

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Republicans have different subgroups as well, different you know, around

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policy preferences and and you know things they want to say,

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tax rates, over foreign wars, over whatever. Like, they're different

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subgroups over there too. But this the Democrats, is based

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on identity. And when she sees prioritization being given now

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to some other subgroup, that's what she's for. That that's

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what she's pushing back against. And the Democrat's.

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Message from Eric regarding the all Cultures are Equal argument

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that Democrats still are having saying that they are all equal,

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all cultures are equal, and how dare Democrat Carla Cunningham

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say otherwise when she supported the local sheriff being forced

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to cooperate with ICE to remove illegal aliens, criminal illegal

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aliens that end up at the jail. Right people who

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get arrested for something, they end up at the jail.

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That's who we're talking about. And so they've been savaging her,

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attacking her and making this argument without any evidence, to

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quote a phrase that's in vogue now, without any evidence,

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saying that her comments are dangerous and divisive to say

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that all cultures are not equal.

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Speaker 2: But she is correct, they are not all equal.

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Speaker 1: That's not to say that you go out and target

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them or attack them or anything like that. It's just

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recognizing that if we get to pick and choose as

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a nation state who we would like to admit into

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our nation, then we have to make some sort of

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value judgment about the people who are coming in. And

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if you are coming from a culture that says, you

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know what our cultural norm and I'm just going to

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make one up here is to you know, murder every

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one of our neighbors just because they're.

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Speaker 2: Not like us.

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Speaker 1: No okay, wait that's humas, that's uh okay, never mind.

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So like, but there you go, Like, would you allow

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Amas to come in?

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Speaker 2: Why not?

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Speaker 1: Because it's a deaf cult, right, It's a deaf cult

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that wants to murder every infidel. So no, I don't

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want any of them moving into America. So Eric says

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on the UH text line driven by Liberty Buick gmc,

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so are they saying a culture that has public executions

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for gay people or says women should be totally subservient

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to men and that culture is no worse than any

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other and an unqualified good that should be accepted here.

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See Eric, that's the kind of question that they will

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not answer, just like Senator teddros would not answer that question.

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They don't want to have to defend their position. And

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I don't blame them for not thinking they have to,

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because media never makes them defend these decisions. They never

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ask the Democrats why or what evidence do you have

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that supports that claim?

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Speaker 2: They never ask them that.

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Speaker 1: King Daddy texts in and says, I guess the Democrats

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don't feel like we should listen to all women anymore.

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So across the pond, Britain's Labor government or is it

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labor Lebauer They put a you in their words. For

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some reason, the Labor government is in trouble. It's program

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of massive Third World immigration from places like Pakistan, sorry

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Pakistan and Somalia is wildly overwhelmingly unpopular. Glenn Reynolds at

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The New York Post says that that's not even the

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real problem. The real problem is that, despite the best

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efforts of Prime Minister Geter Sturmer and his leftist captive media,

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Britain's themselves have discovered just how unpopular it is. And

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you might think that's absurd, right if mass immigration and

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let's be clear, this is illegal immigration. And also let's

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be clear that despite Britain giving millions of dollars to

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the French to try to stop to have the French

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stop the people from getting on all the boats from France,

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and France is aiding and abetting this invasion of Britain.

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Like that's part of the story too. The French are

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not cracking down on this. They're allowing these operations to occur.

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And once they start, you know, going into the water,

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then maritime law says you got to rescue these people.

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And now they're in your country. So you may think, well,

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how is it that not everybody knows mass illegal immigration

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is so unpopular. Well, everybody doesn't know it, Reynolds says,

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because the government has been policing speech about immigration. The

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point of this is not to reduce racism or hate,

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but to make it harder for people to realize just

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how many of their fellow citizens feel the same way

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they do. That's why you police the speech. This is

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what Rush law and the audience that he had recognized,

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and it's what made him so popular, was that he

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got on the radio and he said things that many,

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many millions of people agreed with but thought nobody else

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thought like they did because they weren't hearing any of

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these arguments being articulated. Rush gets on the air, and

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now they hear somebody saying the same thing, like that's

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what I think too. I thought I was alone. And

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then you hear people call in and they're like, I

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think the same thing. And then you get a permission structure,

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which is what happened with Trump in the last election.

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Right when all of a sudden, Elon Musk comes out

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and you get other people that are like, you know,

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oh my god, like Zuckerberg, even he's like, man, he

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looked pretty cool and he stood up, fight fight fight, Right,

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It granted permission for people to say, you know, this

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is cool, this is okay, I can do this. Britain

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has been persecuting people who have been trying to call

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attention to the problem, and as the government gives light

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sentences to child rapists there, it then imprisons moms for

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tweets on the grounds of inciting race hatred. They're literally

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going into people's homes based on Facebook posts. And the

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whole point of this effort is to construct and maintain

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something known as a preference falsification, which I'd never heard

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of before. This is usually found in authoritarian regimes. The

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trick is here with a preference falsification is that you

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make citizens pretend that they believe what the government says

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when they really don't, but you force them to pretend.

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You make them pretend that they believe it, and fake

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their approval of what the government does. You promote marches

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and demonstrations and speech all in favor of the government's

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preferred positions, and you severely punish marches, demonstrations, and speech

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that oppose the government's favored positions. And if you do

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it right, you can have like ninety percent of your

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population hating you and your policies but doing and saying

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absolutely nothing about them. Because everybody in that ninety percent

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thinks they're part of a tiny minority. Resistance seems to

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be futile. And it works until it doesn't. This is

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the problem that Britain is facing right now. It's starting

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to not work anymore. The problem with preference falsification Reynolds

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rights is that sooner or later, some event or some

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development can make people realize that what they have been

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told to is popular is in fact very unpopular. They

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realize they are the majority opinion. When that happens, As

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Duke University scholar Timor Kiran writes in his book Private Truths,

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Public Lies, the result is a preference cascade. I've talked

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about preference cascades for years. Think of it in this term.

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Slowly at first, then very quickly. That's a preference cascade.

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That was Russe Limbaugh's rise, a preference cascade. All of

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a sudden, people realize I'm not the only one that's

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my preference. More people see that preference displayed, and they

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When when you have a large swath of the population

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wake up and realize that their dissident views are in

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fact widely held, well, then they become less afraid of

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the government and less hesitant about sharing their true sentiments,

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and that can be very dangerous for a regime that

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has been gaslighting them. Right this is all from a

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piece by Glenn Reynolds.

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Speaker 2: Well not all.

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Speaker 1: I've been peppering in my own thoughts as I go

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Glenn Reynolds at the New York Post. Glenn Reynolds, by

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the way, is a professor of law at the University

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of Tennessee and he is the founder of the Instapundit blog.

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Instapundit dot com is the website. So what's happening now

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in Britain? People are waking up to the realization that

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the majority of them actually agree with each other and

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not the government after a string of cases in which

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migrants sexually assaulted local girls and women. See, this has

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been a problem going on in Britain for probably a

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decade now, and you've reached critical mass. There are so

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many victims and the government's efforts to keep a lid

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on the story has not worked. Thanks to the rise

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of new media podcasters, you know, British based YouTuber and stuff.

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They've been covering these stories and the more they cover them,

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the more people realize that what they had heard or

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what they had experienced is actually pretty common now. So

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now they've started taking to the streets. There have been

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demonstrations in Britain over the last two weeks. The demonstrations

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are too big to hide. It's not like twelve people

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in front of some you know, gas station, much like

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the UH the No King's.

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Speaker 2: Rally or the UH what was it?

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Speaker 1: The Rage against the Regime protest last weekend here in

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the States. These are too big to hide. They're cropping

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up in every corner of the nation, organized largely on

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Facebook and other social media. After London police I saw

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this story when it happened the other day. They tried

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to ban protesting outside of one of these migrant hotels

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literally hotel where the government is putting up all of

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these migrants. They're paying for their room and board, giving

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them stipends and such authorities. They first tried to ban

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the protest, and then they walked it back with a

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clarification that the ban applied only to specific protesters, just

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people with these names like Tommy Robinson.

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Speaker 2: I gots it questionable.

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Speaker 1: Groups of masked, thuggish counter protesters have been allegedly delivered

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two marches in police buses. They're literally bussing people in

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to counter protest the British protesters who are demanding a

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stop to this illegal immigration that is changing the very society.

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When they tried to bring one of these buses in,

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though they found themselves outnumbered and were pushed back by

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the crowds, by the British crowds, shoving them back into

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the vans. I didn't think the Brits had it in them.

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I thought anybody that would behave that way already immigrated

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to America. But sometimes, Reynolds writes, preference cascades presage major

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political changes. Other times, as in the infamous case of

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Nicholas Chichescu's Communist Romania, they produce violent revolution. The one

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thing about preference falsification is that a lot of times

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it keeps the It keeps not just the people in

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the dark, but really even not so much, because the

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people know what's going on around them in their daily lives,

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their real lives, and they just pretend to go along

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with this fake news from the government. Right, what's the

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joke from communist Russia? It was the old Soviet Union.

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They would say, like, we listen to the news and

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we pretend that they're not lying to us, and they

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pretend that we don't know they're lying to us. They

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would watch the news just to know what the government

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wanted them to believe, not that they believed it, they

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just would watch it to know what the propaganda was.

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But not only does it try to deceive the public,

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but it also keeps the government itself in the dark too.

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In Chichescu's case, he genuinely believed that his people loved him,

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right up until he was dragged out of his mansion

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and shot. The British establishment would have been better served

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to let its citizens to debate the immigration question openly

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and fairly, but it didn't do that because it knew

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it would lose such a debate, so it foisted open

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borders on a nation that did not want that, and

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then try to silence the opposition. And now we are

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watching as the regime's strategy collapses and the preference cascade

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is in the very fast phase.

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Speaker 2: Right. It was slowly at first and then very quickly.

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Speaker 1: Is this going to end Keir Starmer's career, result in

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his ouster or worse violence? I'm seeing a lot of

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people talking about the potential for violence in Britain coming

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their way.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't make predictions, but it'd have been better off

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just having the debate, all right, that'll do it for

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this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I could

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