WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.360 --> 00:00:01.360 How are you, my friend? 2 00:00:01.800 --> 00:00:02.960 Good morning, Good morning. 3 00:00:03.520 --> 00:00:04.960 You're indoors this time? 4 00:00:05.040 --> 00:00:07.480 Where are I'm indoor? I was outdoors and it was 5 00:00:07.559 --> 00:00:10.080 it was too high. 6 00:00:10.279 --> 00:00:15.720 So so was the sun directly shining upon the greg. Yes, 7 00:00:19.480 --> 00:00:21.519 and so discretion being the better part of valor. You 8 00:00:21.559 --> 00:00:24.320 decided to come in and hang out with us this morning, and. 9 00:00:24.239 --> 00:00:26.160 We get a little bit air conditioning for sure. 10 00:00:26.399 --> 00:00:28.879 As always we we appreciate that kind of stuff when 11 00:00:28.920 --> 00:00:31.039 you can take time out of your hyper busy schedule 12 00:00:31.079 --> 00:00:33.159 to come and hang out with us, whether it's doing 13 00:00:33.159 --> 00:00:36.399 stuff with Major League Soccer and and making sure that 14 00:00:36.439 --> 00:00:38.600 everyone's on the same page off the field when it 15 00:00:38.600 --> 00:00:43.719 comes to their teammates and everything. I want to do 16 00:00:43.799 --> 00:00:46.039 a couple of things because I kept you, I kept 17 00:00:46.079 --> 00:00:49.399 your notes from last time, and I want I want 18 00:00:49.399 --> 00:00:51.799 to get into this, but I want to kind of 19 00:00:51.799 --> 00:00:53.880 I want to hold my breath for a second on that. 20 00:00:54.439 --> 00:00:54.759 Uh. 21 00:00:54.880 --> 00:00:56.920 Since you spent some time with the national team, I 22 00:00:56.920 --> 00:00:58.840 want to go there. I want to talk about Eminent 23 00:00:58.920 --> 00:01:03.719 Land United. So h new coach the national team in Mercia, Pochettino. Uh. 24 00:01:03.840 --> 00:01:06.799 It appears that two hedge fund dudes helped out to 25 00:01:06.840 --> 00:01:09.599 make sure that they could pay what Pochettino was looking for. 26 00:01:10.079 --> 00:01:12.079 What do you think about Pochettino now being a part 27 00:01:12.120 --> 00:01:13.400 of things with the US Soccer? 28 00:01:14.200 --> 00:01:17.799 I like it. It's another I mean it's the biggest 29 00:01:17.840 --> 00:01:20.079 higher since Klinsman, right, so. 30 00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:22.519 A lot look at it be bigger than that. 31 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:26.040 Yeah, for sure. I mean, Uh, you know, you're looking 32 00:01:26.079 --> 00:01:31.560 at a coach who has maybe not had as much success, 33 00:01:32.560 --> 00:01:38.159 but somebody who is who is you know, very what's 34 00:01:38.280 --> 00:01:41.159 what's the right word for it, somebody who has I 35 00:01:41.159 --> 00:01:44.439 guess you could say a lot of potential on the rise, 36 00:01:44.920 --> 00:01:48.519 somebody who has a say, somebody who I feel like 37 00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:50.159 is really going to put their foot down on a 38 00:01:50.159 --> 00:01:53.519 lot of different things. And so I think that in 39 00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:57.239 changing the mindset, and what all these players keep saying 40 00:01:57.359 --> 00:01:59.400 is we need somebody to come in and change the mindset. 41 00:01:59.480 --> 00:02:01.280 Need somebody to come in and change the mindset. Need 42 00:02:01.359 --> 00:02:03.159 somebody to come in and change the mindset. This is 43 00:02:04.480 --> 00:02:08.240 what better person could you get? An Argentinian? Right? All 44 00:02:08.280 --> 00:02:10.639 the success I had with in my careers was always 45 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:14.879 with Argentinian coaches. And they don't play no games. So 46 00:02:15.120 --> 00:02:17.879 we'll see, uh, we'll see, uh, we'll see how that goes. 47 00:02:18.520 --> 00:02:21.840 They don't play no games. That's the direct quote. 48 00:02:22.199 --> 00:02:22.479 Yep. 49 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:25.599 I mean yeah, they're gonna, they're gonna let you know 50 00:02:25.639 --> 00:02:27.919 what they think. They're gonna let you know what their 51 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:30.759 expectations are. They're going to sit there and it's like, 52 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:33.360 all right, you went. You might have been with me 53 00:02:33.680 --> 00:02:37.639 or someone you know who is of Argentinian descent. Uh 54 00:02:37.759 --> 00:02:40.479 in a in a team situation, this is a national 55 00:02:40.520 --> 00:02:43.800 team situation. Capital in Capital T. We ain't messing around here. 56 00:02:43.840 --> 00:02:45.280 That's the vibe that I'm getting from you. 57 00:02:45.879 --> 00:02:49.199 Uh yeah, don't argue with an Argentina. I'll just say 58 00:02:49.199 --> 00:02:53.840 that my coach, one of my my coach in t 59 00:02:54.000 --> 00:02:56.840 one I always put it. He said, look, in Argentina 60 00:02:56.919 --> 00:03:01.800 we had Diego Maridona. Uh huh, you know see, thank god, 61 00:03:03.520 --> 00:03:06.039 that's those those are the three Argentinians that you need 62 00:03:06.080 --> 00:03:08.080 to Then you need to pay attention to it. 63 00:03:08.199 --> 00:03:10.520 And not in that order I imagine though, right. 64 00:03:10.439 --> 00:03:13.000 Oh no, no, not that wonder Yeah. Yeah, probably in 65 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:14.000 the order that I just gave it. 66 00:03:14.280 --> 00:03:18.400 Yes, yeah, I mean that's that. That is not a surprise. 67 00:03:18.599 --> 00:03:21.719 And the reason that I asked you first about men's 68 00:03:21.759 --> 00:03:25.159 national team goes to our notes from last time and 69 00:03:25.360 --> 00:03:27.080 and like I said, I wrote it down from two 70 00:03:27.080 --> 00:03:31.479 weeks ago, and it has to do with a couple 71 00:03:31.479 --> 00:03:36.879 of things that you said, quote quoting Greg and the US. 72 00:03:36.960 --> 00:03:37.919 We are too nice. 73 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:45.439 We are too nice nationally as as Americans, and possibly 74 00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:50.039 representing ourselves out on the field as a US national 75 00:03:50.039 --> 00:03:55.560 team or a US representative. So having an Argentinian as 76 00:03:55.599 --> 00:03:59.719 a coach, I would posit the idea that it might 77 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:04.919 whist that being too nice too not necessarily needing to 78 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:07.199 be too nice. At least I would think that that 79 00:04:07.240 --> 00:04:08.800 would be the path that we're going down here. 80 00:04:09.199 --> 00:04:11.639 Yeah, I think he'll for sure change the mindset of 81 00:04:11.719 --> 00:04:15.759 a lot of these guys. You know, it's you have 82 00:04:15.840 --> 00:04:18.279 the good old saying in Spanish you gotta play with 83 00:04:18.319 --> 00:04:22.519 the with the knife between the teeth. That's what they say. 84 00:04:24.839 --> 00:04:28.800 That's that's definitely a saying that they kind of live by. 85 00:04:28.839 --> 00:04:30.680 And I'm sure that's something that he will implement. 86 00:04:31.160 --> 00:04:35.040 Can you translate that effectively without getting us into trouble? 87 00:04:35.240 --> 00:04:39.000 Yeah? Knife, knife between the teeth? Yeah, yeah, I just 88 00:04:39.160 --> 00:04:44.000 I'm not gonna translate it. Uh. I Remember I just 89 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:45.959 had a couple of coaches whenever I played in Mexico 90 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:47.399 that you would just look over at the bench and 91 00:04:47.399 --> 00:04:52.759 they would just be like this, and you just kind 92 00:04:52.759 --> 00:04:55.079 of shake your head and be like, Okay, I know 93 00:04:55.079 --> 00:04:55.519 what to do. 94 00:04:56.040 --> 00:04:58.839 Yeah, how to be I gotta dial it up all 95 00:04:58.839 --> 00:05:00.160 of a sudden. Yeah uh. 96 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:03.240 And that and that got into note number two and 97 00:05:03.319 --> 00:05:05.519 three from last time that you were here. 98 00:05:05.560 --> 00:05:07.560 Actually, since I'm left handed, I guess I should do that. 99 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:13.839 The world of the ethical dilemma and being malicious without malice. 100 00:05:14.000 --> 00:05:15.560 Wow, that's one. 101 00:05:15.800 --> 00:05:18.079 Yeah. You uh, like, hey, you you wrote it that, 102 00:05:18.240 --> 00:05:19.839 you said you talked about it, and it was toward 103 00:05:19.839 --> 00:05:21.160 the end of a segment, and I'm like, oh, I 104 00:05:21.199 --> 00:05:22.639 better write this down for next time. 105 00:05:22.720 --> 00:05:24.079 So yeah, uh. 106 00:05:24.120 --> 00:05:28.759 The idea of being malicious without malice and the idea 107 00:05:28.839 --> 00:05:33.000 of the ethical dilemma when it comes to the the 108 00:05:33.040 --> 00:05:38.720 ethical dilemma and having these kinds of discussions with your mentees, 109 00:05:39.519 --> 00:05:42.199 I guess at the surface level, to start things off, 110 00:05:42.279 --> 00:05:46.319 do they understand the idea of having an ethical dilemma 111 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:49.560 and trying to get pasted it out on the field. 112 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:55.560 I'll give a great example this This is this is 113 00:05:55.639 --> 00:06:01.000 using my own son, right. Great example there was I 114 00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:05.360 remember there was a play probably about two years ago, 115 00:06:06.279 --> 00:06:11.920 maybe two years ago and he shot the ball went 116 00:06:11.959 --> 00:06:14.800 out for they were we were winning one zero, his 117 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:18.120 team was winning one zero. And it is I think, 118 00:06:18.160 --> 00:06:22.079 like the final final couple of minutes of the game, right, 119 00:06:24.439 --> 00:06:27.759 and he shot the ball hit the posts and went 120 00:06:27.759 --> 00:06:29.879 out of bounce and he and he could have gone 121 00:06:29.879 --> 00:06:33.000 and got it, and I think he was about to 122 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:34.360 go and get it, and he was about to give 123 00:06:34.360 --> 00:06:39.759 it to the goalie, and I screamed, I said, leave it. 124 00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:42.160 Go back to your position and leave it. Let the 125 00:06:42.199 --> 00:06:45.360 goalie get it. Right, it's the last couple of minutes 126 00:06:45.360 --> 00:06:47.399 of the game. Let the goalie get it. It's their ball, 127 00:06:47.600 --> 00:06:49.839 don't get it. And I remember I had a parent 128 00:06:49.879 --> 00:06:53.720 from the other team scream, way to teach your kids sportsmanship, 129 00:06:55.199 --> 00:06:59.920 And that to me is just that's that's the that's 130 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:03.920 the maliciousness without malice. Because if you go to anywhere 131 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:08.959 else in the world and watch soccer, these kids at five, six, seven, 132 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:11.800 eight years old, if that ball goes out of balance 133 00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:14.800 and they're winning one zero, they're gonna fake stretch like 134 00:07:14.839 --> 00:07:16.560 they're doing a quad stretch, and they're gonna let that 135 00:07:16.560 --> 00:07:21.759 ball roll right by. And that to me is just like, 136 00:07:22.319 --> 00:07:24.160 that is the thing that I think we need to 137 00:07:24.199 --> 00:07:29.480 teach Americans that you'll do anything to win, right that 138 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:32.759 that to me is not evil. Right, that's not evil. 139 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:35.519 That has nothing to do with sportsmanship in my opinion. 140 00:07:35.920 --> 00:07:39.680 That is finding the littlest smallest of details to try 141 00:07:39.680 --> 00:07:42.480 and win a game. And that's that's something that I 142 00:07:42.519 --> 00:07:48.240 think if we play, if you watch Cope America, right, yeah, 143 00:07:48.360 --> 00:07:52.560 you watch Cope America, that those guys are doing anything 144 00:07:52.680 --> 00:07:56.920 and everything they can to win. Now, are they cheating? No? 145 00:07:57.319 --> 00:08:00.480 Was that moment right there a teaching lesson to tell 146 00:08:00.519 --> 00:08:03.560 my son, Hey, that's cheating. No, because it's not cheating. 147 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:06.839 It's their ball. Right, you don't have to be the 148 00:08:06.920 --> 00:08:08.759 kid that's going to take the ball. You're not losing. 149 00:08:08.800 --> 00:08:10.199 You don't have to get the ball and take it 150 00:08:10.240 --> 00:08:12.920 back and put it on the on the on the 151 00:08:12.959 --> 00:08:16.480 six yard box right to to you know, now, make 152 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:19.519 play go by quicker. You're winning. Let the time go 153 00:08:19.600 --> 00:08:22.439 by slower or earlier. Let your head you just take 154 00:08:22.439 --> 00:08:26.879 your time. It's like when a corner kick goes us 155 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:30.360 as us as parents or us as coaches sometimes or 156 00:08:30.399 --> 00:08:33.879 as kids. You're winning the ball and the ball goes 157 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:36.320 out for a corner kick and a kid an American kid, 158 00:08:37.320 --> 00:08:39.879 every American kid that I watch, they will sprint over 159 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:41.039 to get the ball and they'll put it on the 160 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:42.679 corner and you're winning one zero and you have three 161 00:08:42.720 --> 00:08:45.879 minutes left. Well, I remember the second I moved to 162 00:08:45.879 --> 00:08:47.879 Brazil and that happened, I probably would have gotten taken 163 00:08:47.879 --> 00:08:50.919 out been the next sub because the coach would have said, hey, 164 00:08:51.039 --> 00:08:52.600 the next time the ball goes out for a corner 165 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:55.039 kick and you're winning one to zero, I want you 166 00:08:55.080 --> 00:08:59.600 to walk as slow as you can, right. And that 167 00:08:59.600 --> 00:09:02.399 that is that to me, is not malicious. That is 168 00:09:03.360 --> 00:09:07.600 that to me is right maliciousness without without malice, right. 169 00:09:08.679 --> 00:09:12.840 And I think those little nuances that I think that 170 00:09:12.960 --> 00:09:18.159 I think other cultures can teach us to understand. And 171 00:09:18.200 --> 00:09:23.159 I think that's that's probably a huge asset of Whattino 172 00:09:23.200 --> 00:09:26.840 will probably give these guys, right, even from even from 173 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:31.600 a professional level. I think it trickles, It trickles down right, 174 00:09:31.639 --> 00:09:33.320 and I think that, you know, I think that's a 175 00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:38.120 huge piece of it to to really you know, in 176 00:09:38.480 --> 00:09:42.120 my personal opinion, it is doing it. I heard I 177 00:09:42.159 --> 00:09:43.679 heard the saying the other day and it says there 178 00:09:43.720 --> 00:09:47.120 is a winning mentality that most kids and most people 179 00:09:47.200 --> 00:09:50.919 have a winning mentality, and then beyond the winning mentality 180 00:09:50.960 --> 00:09:55.360 is the domination mentality. And it was talking about professional 181 00:09:55.360 --> 00:09:59.440 athletes having a domination mentality. You don't want to just win, 182 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:03.480 you want to absolutely dominate. And that that is that 183 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:07.799 is even if you're playing against right, or you're competing 184 00:10:08.279 --> 00:10:11.320 with your teammates. Right, if I'm competing with my teammates 185 00:10:11.399 --> 00:10:14.200 or my old teammates and we're doing whatever the silliest 186 00:10:14.200 --> 00:10:17.200 of soccer tennis games, right and playing soccer tennis, I 187 00:10:17.240 --> 00:10:19.919 want to dominate my friend in soccer tennis, right. And 188 00:10:19.960 --> 00:10:22.279 I think that's just the that's the mentality that I 189 00:10:22.279 --> 00:10:26.080 think we need to bring within the national team to 190 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:30.840 to just find a way to do anything anything possible 191 00:10:30.879 --> 00:10:34.679 within their hands without cheating, without being evil, but by winning. 192 00:10:35.080 --> 00:10:37.600 And I think that's that that's a huge that's a 193 00:10:37.639 --> 00:10:40.639 huge step that I think I personally think, but Youatina 194 00:10:40.679 --> 00:10:41.840 will bring will bring to the. 195 00:10:41.799 --> 00:10:46.080 Team because I would pause it that there is a 196 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:54.039 difference between sportsmanship and gamesmanship and be and and being 197 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:57.480 at the front of soccer etiquette and you know, being 198 00:10:57.519 --> 00:10:59.840 prim and proper and you know like this, you know 199 00:10:59.879 --> 00:11:01.519 we have to we have to do things this way 200 00:11:01.559 --> 00:11:03.960 because they've done it this way for five centuries and 201 00:11:04.000 --> 00:11:05.799 you know we have Yeah, but there's there's there's a 202 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:10.960 difference between sportsmanship, gamesmanship, and being and being a dominant 203 00:11:10.960 --> 00:11:12.960 individual out there. And I think that you can you 204 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:16.320 can integrate two or three of those at the same 205 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:18.639 two of three of those at the same time. You 206 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:21.320 can be dominant, and you can have gamesmanship. You can 207 00:11:21.360 --> 00:11:24.519 be dominant and have sportsmanship. You can be uh, you 208 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:27.639 can have gamesmanship and still have sportsmanship. So I think 209 00:11:27.679 --> 00:11:29.919 you can take two of those three at any given 210 00:11:29.960 --> 00:11:33.200 time and still be as highly successful as you feel 211 00:11:33.240 --> 00:11:33.879 like you need to be. 212 00:11:35.039 --> 00:11:37.519 And and I think there are moments, even when I 213 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:39.840 watch youth soccer that I just give another example of 214 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:42.879 even that of watching kids there that you might be 215 00:11:42.960 --> 00:11:45.360 winning two to one and there's a counter attack for 216 00:11:45.399 --> 00:11:48.639 the other team, and in your mind you have these 217 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:53.360 parents or you have your coach telling you don't foul, right, Well, 218 00:11:53.399 --> 00:11:55.759 mine is it's okay to foul. There's a kind of 219 00:11:56.000 --> 00:12:00.720 professional foul pool. Yeah, jersey, pull a jersey from behind right, 220 00:12:00.799 --> 00:12:06.000 stop the counter attack, and and you know you if 221 00:12:06.039 --> 00:12:07.919 you need to receive a yellow, you receive a yellow. 222 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:11.080 It's okay, it's a warning. A yellow card is a warning, right, 223 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:13.559 just don't do it again. Right, But you've taken a 224 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:18.639 foul for You've taken something for the team, and that's that. 225 00:12:18.639 --> 00:12:20.799 That's you're not being evil in that moment. You're not 226 00:12:20.840 --> 00:12:24.519 coming from behind and absolutely swiping some kid from his 227 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:26.639 feet and just kicking him as hard as you can. Know. 228 00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:30.840 You're creating a professional foul to try and give an 229 00:12:30.879 --> 00:12:33.639 advantage for your team to hopefully. That's why I say 230 00:12:34.000 --> 00:12:37.799 you're doing anything and everything you can to win, and 231 00:12:38.120 --> 00:12:41.279 that that that is something that I think if I 232 00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:45.320 were to go to Spain or Brazil or any other 233 00:12:45.399 --> 00:12:48.960 place in the in the sorry in the world, in 234 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:52.840 the United States pretty much pretty pretty much. But uh, 235 00:12:54.080 --> 00:12:56.519 you don't. You don't. You see it quite often there, right, 236 00:12:56.559 --> 00:12:59.120 You see these kids already having because I think they 237 00:12:59.200 --> 00:13:03.320 watch so much they watched their their there. It's so 238 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:06.519 it's so they're so used to seeing those things within 239 00:13:06.559 --> 00:13:09.000 the within the game that they watch, and we don't. 240 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:11.399 We don't have that, right, we don't, we don't have 241 00:13:11.480 --> 00:13:14.879 that within us. For them. It's it's you know, it 242 00:13:14.919 --> 00:13:18.000 embodies their culture of doing anything and everything to win. 243 00:13:18.039 --> 00:13:19.480 It even from a very young age. 244 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:22.360 You're reading my notes because the word I was going 245 00:13:22.360 --> 00:13:25.440 to use was cultural, and it seems like it is 246 00:13:25.480 --> 00:13:28.519 a cultural thing in the you know, in the United States, 247 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:32.240 that regardless of what we're talking about here, we we 248 00:13:32.399 --> 00:13:34.279 have to be the ones that play by the rule book. 249 00:13:34.320 --> 00:13:36.279 We have to be the ones that stand the straightest 250 00:13:36.320 --> 00:13:38.159 and sit there and point at the rule book and go, well, 251 00:13:38.200 --> 00:13:40.639 these are the rules of engagement that you know, and 252 00:13:40.679 --> 00:13:42.480 these are the rules that are written therefore, these are 253 00:13:42.480 --> 00:13:43.720 the rules that are that they are. 254 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:45.279 And and like I said, I think we could be. 255 00:13:45.279 --> 00:13:47.919 Talking sports, We're could be talking yeah, you know, business 256 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:49.960 or whatever, but these are the rules, and these are 257 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:51.840 the rules that we have to abide by, as you know, 258 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:57.200 the guy in the white hat. But culturally, I think 259 00:13:57.240 --> 00:13:59.320 that and it's easy to see from what you mentioned 260 00:13:59.360 --> 00:14:01.360 with all of the all of the countries that all 261 00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:03.120 of that have all the different leagues that are out 262 00:14:03.159 --> 00:14:04.919 there now that we can watch that we have access to, 263 00:14:05.720 --> 00:14:10.039 that it's not one of those situations where you have 264 00:14:10.120 --> 00:14:12.600 to wear the white hat all the time. There's nothing 265 00:14:12.639 --> 00:14:15.240 wrong with the good guy who's got that little streak 266 00:14:15.279 --> 00:14:18.399 of wearing the dark stripe every once in a while. 267 00:14:18.399 --> 00:14:22.200 There's nothing wrong with that if you are chasing after 268 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:26.759 an achievement and other folks are doing it. But you've 269 00:14:26.759 --> 00:14:28.279 got to you know, we have to be too nice. 270 00:14:28.279 --> 00:14:29.840 We've got to be the white hat all the time. 271 00:14:29.879 --> 00:14:31.279 It seems like it's a cultural thing. 272 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:34.840 I spoke to him in tea yesterday, girl, and I 273 00:14:34.879 --> 00:14:37.720 told her, look, this weekend, I want you to play 274 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:40.200 a chip on your shoulder with chip with a chip 275 00:14:40.200 --> 00:14:44.039 on your shoulder, but also be compassionate. Right, you can 276 00:14:44.080 --> 00:14:46.039 be both. You can still play with a chip on 277 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:49.399 your shoulder and you can know that you are right 278 00:14:49.799 --> 00:14:52.639 the bomb, but you can still be compassionate, and you 279 00:14:52.639 --> 00:14:54.879 can still be compassionate towards your teammates and be a 280 00:14:54.879 --> 00:14:58.200 great leader. But you know, give me the ball, I'll 281 00:14:58.200 --> 00:15:00.679 resolve it, right, give me the ball. I'll take care 282 00:15:00.720 --> 00:15:05.080 of this. And I think that's that's that's the mentality 283 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:06.759 that I think a lot I want a lot of 284 00:15:06.759 --> 00:15:10.440 these kids to to take to They can take on 285 00:15:10.480 --> 00:15:13.519 that responsibility and sometimes put that pressure on their shoulders 286 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:16.879 because it holds them accountable to a certain extent, but 287 00:15:17.039 --> 00:15:18.919 it helps them mature and it helps them grow in 288 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:23.759 a certain way, and so I like, I like putting 289 00:15:23.759 --> 00:15:27.759 that pressure on kids sometimes because I feel like in 290 00:15:27.799 --> 00:15:31.320 their minds and we always talk about this sometimes with kids, 291 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:34.559 and just I use the younger generations because I think 292 00:15:35.720 --> 00:15:38.960 from a soccer perspective, we are still so far away 293 00:15:39.600 --> 00:15:43.879 from this is my first opinion from winning a World Cup. 294 00:15:44.360 --> 00:15:47.120 We're so far away. But because I think those are little, 295 00:15:47.320 --> 00:15:49.559 those are still like the little nuances and the little 296 00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:51.960 things that I think we need to it needs to 297 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:54.960 start from a very young age to start to start 298 00:15:55.000 --> 00:15:58.720 teaching these things. That that is. And I guess you 299 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:01.879 know the word. The word will always come back to hunger, right, 300 00:16:01.960 --> 00:16:04.080 And I think that's that that that to me is 301 00:16:04.120 --> 00:16:06.679 I think something that you you see in other cultures. 302 00:16:06.720 --> 00:16:09.399 You see in other places there is a hunger. There 303 00:16:09.440 --> 00:16:13.480 is a hunger from the very gig go. And I 304 00:16:14.159 --> 00:16:17.679 just don't see that with soccer yet. I see it 305 00:16:17.679 --> 00:16:21.639 with other sports within the States, but not with soccer yet. 306 00:16:21.799 --> 00:16:24.159 And I think once we develop that hunger, I think 307 00:16:24.200 --> 00:16:26.159 that that things will change. 308 00:16:26.320 --> 00:16:28.240 Well I would, and I would sit there and say 309 00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:30.679 that probably because those sports were here first and they've 310 00:16:30.679 --> 00:16:34.600 been here longer, that you have that mental those mentalities 311 00:16:34.600 --> 00:16:37.600 attached to those sports, and the longer that soccer is here, 312 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:39.720 the more it becomes ingrained, the more that it becomes 313 00:16:39.720 --> 00:16:41.879 a part of the fabric of what we see on 314 00:16:41.919 --> 00:16:45.759 a daily basis, then that idea will continue to rise 315 00:16:45.799 --> 00:16:47.759 and be a part of things in soccer. I would 316 00:16:47.960 --> 00:16:49.919 I would venture to guess that that would be the case. 317 00:16:50.440 --> 00:16:52.960 I would assume. So I think that's you know, if 318 00:16:53.000 --> 00:16:55.799 you speak to kids who travel the world or go 319 00:16:55.879 --> 00:16:58.440 play soccer in other places, although they might not be 320 00:16:58.519 --> 00:17:02.799 playing at a higher level in the other places, but 321 00:17:02.840 --> 00:17:04.720 when every time they come back, I'll always ask them, 322 00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:06.599 you know, all these kids that go to you know, 323 00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:10.240 Europe or South America during the summer, and I'll always 324 00:17:10.279 --> 00:17:12.599 ask them, what's what's the biggest difference that we loved it? 325 00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:15.160 It was so great, man, Those kids they want it 326 00:17:15.160 --> 00:17:18.720 more than anything. And my question is, well, why don't 327 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:20.440 Why don't you want him more than anything? You have 328 00:17:20.440 --> 00:17:21.880 to want any more. You can do this. You can 329 00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:25.359 have the same mentality just in a different environment, in 330 00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:29.279 a different location, and and it's okay to have that mentality. 331 00:17:29.359 --> 00:17:32.720 And so, you know, I think that's that's a that's 332 00:17:32.720 --> 00:17:34.960 a massive lesson for all of us, and just going 333 00:17:35.039 --> 00:17:38.440 back to our national team head coach, I think that 334 00:17:38.559 --> 00:17:43.200 is that is the mindset that he will try. I 335 00:17:43.200 --> 00:17:45.880 don't know if he will be successful, but that he 336 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:51.240 will try and strive to implement within within the team 337 00:17:51.240 --> 00:17:52.000 that we have right now. 338 00:17:52.240 --> 00:17:54.359 How hard is it to pull the want two gene 339 00:17:54.359 --> 00:17:55.359 out of a mend. 340 00:17:57.200 --> 00:17:59.319 The want two gene of just like wanting it more 341 00:17:59.359 --> 00:17:59.839 than anything? 342 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:00.279 Yeah? 343 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:04.039 Yeah, Basically it's a it's a there's a Southern expression. 344 00:18:04.079 --> 00:18:07.599 It's about the want to and it's uh, you know, 345 00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:10.519 it's like, well, you know, you see someone who is 346 00:18:10.559 --> 00:18:14.240 allegedly not performing to what adults have as a standard 347 00:18:14.279 --> 00:18:17.119 for a you know, for a teenager that the want 348 00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:19.720 to isn't there. You know, So how did to pull 349 00:18:19.759 --> 00:18:21.039 the want two out of a mantee? 350 00:18:22.920 --> 00:18:26.480 You know? I always always try and like pick their 351 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:29.480 brains a bit and and and get them to understand. 352 00:18:29.519 --> 00:18:32.119 You know, obviously the game is very mental, right it is. 353 00:18:32.599 --> 00:18:34.759 I always tell kids, I think it's one hundred percent mental, 354 00:18:35.559 --> 00:18:37.440 But it can only be one hundred percent mental if. 355 00:18:37.279 --> 00:18:40.240 You if you also have heart, yeah right. 356 00:18:40.319 --> 00:18:42.880 And if your heart's not in it, then that grit 357 00:18:43.200 --> 00:18:46.079 and like you said, that one that desire, that will, 358 00:18:46.240 --> 00:18:50.480 that love, that passion, then the brain is most likely 359 00:18:50.519 --> 00:18:53.160 not going to be in it. So before before your 360 00:18:53.400 --> 00:18:57.200 mental game can play a massive piece, there has to 361 00:18:57.240 --> 00:19:00.039 be heart. And so I think that's a that's a 362 00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:03.880 huge component. That's a huge that's a huge way that 363 00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:06.799 I try and explain to kids the best way possible 364 00:19:06.839 --> 00:19:12.079 for them to understand that. But I I can't. I 365 00:19:12.119 --> 00:19:12.880 can't teach that. 366 00:19:13.200 --> 00:19:13.599 Yeah, right. 367 00:19:13.880 --> 00:19:16.119 I can teach them things to use as self talk. 368 00:19:16.240 --> 00:19:19.240 I can teach them things to in ways to be 369 00:19:19.279 --> 00:19:22.720 a great leader. I can teach them ways and and 370 00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:27.920 and understanding that life is not fair. I can't teach heart. 371 00:19:28.559 --> 00:19:31.000 That's something I can't teach. That's something I can talk about. 372 00:19:31.599 --> 00:19:34.359 But like I always tell them, and we've talked before 373 00:19:34.400 --> 00:19:37.759 about the bamboo tree, right, I can only plant to 374 00:19:37.799 --> 00:19:39.759 see you know, the rest. The rest is up to 375 00:19:39.799 --> 00:19:43.480 them to water each and every day. That's that's that grit, 376 00:19:43.519 --> 00:19:45.200 that's that heart that you have behind it. 377 00:19:46.039 --> 00:19:51.680 When you see as a mentor, the the bamboo tree grow. 378 00:19:51.839 --> 00:19:54.039 When you get to see as a mentor, you get 379 00:19:54.079 --> 00:19:56.599 to see that want to come out, You get to 380 00:19:56.640 --> 00:19:58.880 see the heart, You get to see the God come out. 381 00:19:59.000 --> 00:20:01.799 From a men tea that you've been trying to sit 382 00:20:01.839 --> 00:20:05.599 there and and you know, just have a conversation where 383 00:20:05.599 --> 00:20:08.480 it's like, hey, you know if it's there, I know 384 00:20:08.599 --> 00:20:11.279 it's there. When you get to see all of that 385 00:20:11.319 --> 00:20:13.720 come out of a mentee, what does that mean to you? 386 00:20:13.759 --> 00:20:16.480 And Parky when you get to see something like that happen. 387 00:20:18.440 --> 00:20:21.920 It's it's it's great because you in my in my 388 00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:29.079 personal opinion, it is knowing that right, ninety nine percent 389 00:20:29.119 --> 00:20:31.079 of that kid's future is not going to be in 390 00:20:31.119 --> 00:20:36.839 professional soccer and so well nine point nine right, But 391 00:20:37.160 --> 00:20:41.519 it's it's it's it's coming to an understanding that whatever 392 00:20:41.559 --> 00:20:42.240 that kid. 393 00:20:42.039 --> 00:20:46.640 Does, he or she uh will have that mentality to 394 00:20:46.799 --> 00:20:50.000 tackle their tasks ahead of them, right to want to 395 00:20:50.039 --> 00:20:52.519 accomplish those tasks that they haven't ahead of them. 396 00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:55.680 And that's that's the biggest message. That's the biggest message, 397 00:20:55.720 --> 00:20:59.480 and wanting them to understand that if they have college ahead, 398 00:21:00.000 --> 00:21:05.039 if they have entrepreneurship ahead, if they have a managing 399 00:21:05.079 --> 00:21:09.119 position ahead, if they have an industrial worker ahead, it 400 00:21:09.160 --> 00:21:13.359 doesn't matter whatever they become, that they will have tasks 401 00:21:13.559 --> 00:21:17.119