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<v Speaker 1>You unlock this door with the key of imagination. Beyond

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<v Speaker 1>it is another dimension, a dimension of sun, a dimension

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<v Speaker 1>of sight, a dimension of mind. You're moving into a

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<v Speaker 1>land of both shadow and substance of things and ideas.

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<v Speaker 1>You've just crossed over into the Twilight Zone.

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<v Speaker 2>In an interview that was conducted during the third season

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<v Speaker 2>of The Twilight Zone, Road Sailing expressed his fatigue with

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<v Speaker 2>the show. He said, I'm tired of it, as most

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<v Speaker 2>people are when they do a series for three years.

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<v Speaker 2>I was tired after the fourth show. It's been a

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<v Speaker 2>good series. It's not been consistently good, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know any one series that is consistently good when you

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<v Speaker 2>shoot each episode in three days. We've been trying gradually

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<v Speaker 2>to get away from the necessity of a gimmick, but

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<v Speaker 2>the show has the stamp of the gimmick and it's

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<v Speaker 2>hooked for now. It's tough to come up with them

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<v Speaker 2>week after week. And this wasn't the only time that

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<v Speaker 2>Rod Sailing spoke about his growing exhaustion. As the series

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<v Speaker 2>progressed by the fifth season, his fatigue must have been

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<v Speaker 2>even more pronounced, and if he felt that the show

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<v Speaker 2>was relying too heavily on the twist ending gimmick, as

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<v Speaker 2>he called it. Perhaps in its fifth year, it needed

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<v Speaker 2>to evolve, with other writers taking on the line's share

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<v Speaker 2>of writing duties. In season five, wrote only six episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>It was clear that times where changing and new themes emerging,

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<v Speaker 2>and this evolution of the show occurred against the backdrop

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<v Speaker 2>of nineteen sixty four, a pivotal year in American history

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<v Speaker 2>marked by social and cultural changes. The civil rights movement

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<v Speaker 2>reached a milestone with the signing of the Civil Rights

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<v Speaker 2>Act of nineteen sixty four by President Lyndon B. Johnson,

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<v Speaker 2>outlawing discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin.

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<v Speaker 2>The arrival of the Beatles in America sparked a British invasion,

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<v Speaker 2>influencing music and fashion. The Vietnam War was escalating, leading

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<v Speaker 2>to growing anti war sentiment and protests. Culturally, new forms

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<v Speaker 2>of expression in art, music, and literature were emerging in

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<v Speaker 2>fluenced by the beat generation and the burgeoning counterculture movement.

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<v Speaker 2>This period of transformation set the stage for the social

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<v Speaker 2>and political upevils that would define the rest of the decade.

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<v Speaker 2>So if counterculture was leaving its mark on the arts,

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps it was time for the Twilight Zone to address

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<v Speaker 2>that counterculture.

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<v Speaker 3>You know who they are, no, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Strange type of this neighborhood and you stay away from

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<v Speaker 4>a young lady.

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<v Speaker 2>Traditionally the Twilight Zone was the domain of men in

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<v Speaker 2>suits and ties. But as three men ride their motorcycles

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<v Speaker 2>into a white pickard fence neighborhood, the type that we've

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<v Speaker 2>seen over and over in episodes like Walking Distance, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the show was ready to address the counterculture and leave

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<v Speaker 2>the suits and ties in the closet of instead for

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<v Speaker 2>some black leather jackets.

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<v Speaker 1>Three strangers arrive in a small town, three men in

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<v Speaker 1>black leather jackets and an empty rented house. We'll call

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<v Speaker 1>them Steve and Scott and Fred, but their names are

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<v Speaker 1>not important. Their mission is as three men on motorcycles

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<v Speaker 1>lead us into the twilight'sign.

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<v Speaker 2>First broadcast on January thirty first, nineteen sixty four, written

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<v Speaker 2>by el Hamner Junior and directed by Joseph F.

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<v Speaker 3>Newman.

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<v Speaker 2>So pretty basic opening narration from Rod Sailing where he

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<v Speaker 2>introduces the characters even by name, and says they have

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<v Speaker 2>a mission. So not much to comment on here. And

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<v Speaker 2>our writer tonight is Earl Hamner Junior, who is on

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<v Speaker 2>episode six of his eight episode run, and he shares

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<v Speaker 2>something in common with our director tonight, who is Joseph f.

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<v Speaker 2>New who we have spoken about before, because he is

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<v Speaker 2>one of that new crop of directors who came to

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<v Speaker 2>the show in season five, and he actually has the

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<v Speaker 2>distinction of bookending this season by starting it with in

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<v Speaker 2>praise of Pip. And the thing he has in common

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<v Speaker 2>with al Hamner is they both ended with the Bewitching Pool.

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<v Speaker 2>So I won't go into his bio now, as we

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<v Speaker 2>will have done it before in this season, apart from

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<v Speaker 2>to say that after this episode he only has one

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<v Speaker 2>more credit, one episode of a Western show called The

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<v Speaker 2>Big Valley. So our scene is set. Three bikers come

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<v Speaker 2>to this quiet suburb, attracting suspicious looks from one of

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<v Speaker 2>the residents, Stuugh Tillman, but admiring looks from his daughter

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<v Speaker 2>Ellen Tillman, and the Tilmans settled down for the evening

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<v Speaker 2>in their living room, which is a set that gets

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of use here in season five because as

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<v Speaker 2>we've seen it in ninety years without slumbering and ringed

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<v Speaker 2>in girls so far. But when they do sit down,

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<v Speaker 2>the television loses its picture. The lights flicker, on and off.

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<v Speaker 2>Ellen's radio is picking up strange voices, and Stu Tillman

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<v Speaker 2>notices a new aerial on the roof of the house

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<v Speaker 2>where the three bikers moved in, so Stu goes to investigate.

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<v Speaker 1>Billy, I'm Stu Tillman live over next door. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>having a little trouble over there with my electricity.

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<v Speaker 3>It fades on and off. Are you boys? Don't happen

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<v Speaker 3>to be Ham radio operators? Do you? What's so funny?

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<v Speaker 5>Big Daddy wants to know what's so funny?

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<v Speaker 3>Who are you boys? Anyway? We are Master's Daddyo.

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<v Speaker 2>We came from out of space.

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<v Speaker 3>Take us to your.

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<v Speaker 4>Leader just a minute, or I'll just syntegrated with my

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<v Speaker 4>rag gun.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you wait.

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<v Speaker 2>So, after being pushed around by the bikers, ste does

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<v Speaker 2>forget it after one of the bikers uses powers of

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<v Speaker 2>suggestion to remove it from his mind.

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<v Speaker 3>Still, what is it? What's happened to you? Do? Those men?

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<v Speaker 5>What they've done to you?

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<v Speaker 3>M nothing, They didn't do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you were you were going to ask them about

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<v Speaker 1>the television interference.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh it wasn't them. There the nice boys. There three

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<v Speaker 3>very nice boys.

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<v Speaker 2>So who are these three very nice boys. Now, I

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<v Speaker 2>won't go too deep into bios on our three Bikers,

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<v Speaker 2>because otherwise this episode will be nothing but bios. But

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<v Speaker 2>let's just briefly go over their careers. Steve has played

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<v Speaker 2>by Michael Frost, who I believe is still with us

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<v Speaker 2>today and has been working as recently as twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>and in contrast to his rugged screen persona, he was

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<v Speaker 2>also an accomplished Shakespearean actor and in Unlocking the Door

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<v Speaker 2>to a Television classic, Martin Graham's junior prints part of

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<v Speaker 2>an interview that he did with Tom Weaver, and Michael says,

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<v Speaker 2>we played aliens on motorcycles in there, and I used

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<v Speaker 2>to ride motorcycles. They gave me a bike that had

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<v Speaker 2>a regular foot clutch, which was the old fashioned kind

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<v Speaker 2>that I was used to riding. So they gave me

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<v Speaker 2>this nineteen thirty nine Harley frame with a brand new

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<v Speaker 2>engine and a foot clutch. They call it a suicide clutch.

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<v Speaker 2>The other bikes had the hand clutch, which of course

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<v Speaker 2>all bikes have now. It was fun because they were

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<v Speaker 2>very hot bikes, and we did wheelies a couple of times,

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<v Speaker 2>which weren't supposed to do, but we got fooling around

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<v Speaker 2>and it was a fun episode to do.

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<v Speaker 3>So.

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<v Speaker 2>The next of our trio is Fred, played by Tom

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<v Speaker 2>gilleran an actor with so few credits to his name

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<v Speaker 2>that I can reel them off for you right now.

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<v Speaker 2>He was in Riverboat in nineteen sixty Alfred Hitchcock Presents

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen sixty one to nineteen sixty two, four episodes

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<v Speaker 2>in total, an episode of The Donna Reed Show in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixty two, this episode of the Twilight Zone in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixty four, one episode of the TV show Gidget

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen sixty six, an episode of the FBI in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy two, one episode of Dallas in nineteen eighty one,

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<v Speaker 2>and two episodes of night Rider in nineteen eighty four.

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<v Speaker 2>So not particularly prolific in acting, and it does suggest

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe he decided that the business wasn't for him,

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<v Speaker 2>and I believe that he left acting and worked in

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<v Speaker 2>real estate for many years. Then finally, Scott is played

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<v Speaker 2>by Leakinsolving and he was born in nineteen thirty eight

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<v Speaker 2>in Boston, Massachusetts. Initially he was a Broadway actor and

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<v Speaker 2>was signed by the same agents who had brought success

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<v Speaker 2>to James Dean and Tad Hunter. He hit television screens

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen fifty eight and started to do the rounds

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<v Speaker 2>on anthologies like Playhouse ninety and The Westinghouse Desilu Playhouse.

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<v Speaker 2>So things were looking bright. But as he approached the

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<v Speaker 2>mid sixties, although he was working steadily, he hadn't found

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<v Speaker 2>that breakout part that would take him to the next level, so,

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<v Speaker 2>after becoming frustrated, he too quit the business. After that,

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<v Speaker 2>he ran a bar for a couple of years, managed

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<v Speaker 2>Dark Galleries, and then in nineteen seventy two decided to

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<v Speaker 2>spend most of his time on his boat exploring exotic locations.

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<v Speaker 2>But sadly, in nineteen seventy four, at the age of

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<v Speaker 2>thirty six, he died of a mysterious respiratory illness. So

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<v Speaker 2>back to our episode. While Stu Tillman didn't have a

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<v Speaker 2>particularly good running with the bikers, his daughter has quite

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<v Speaker 2>a different experience when the bus that she wants it

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<v Speaker 2>to catch drives away and biker Scott approaches her on

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<v Speaker 2>his motorcycle.

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<v Speaker 6>Did you see that bus?

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<v Speaker 3>It pulled right away?

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<v Speaker 6>It's like a game with them. They just like to

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<v Speaker 6>make people suffer.

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<v Speaker 3>Why do they do that?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>It beats me? Just thank you're lucky stars.

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<v Speaker 6>You don't have to depend on buses to get around.

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<v Speaker 5>Stars are lucky?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you know that old expression.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I understand a great deal about the constellations, that

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<v Speaker 7>is the nature of the galactic structure.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean I dig stars.

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<v Speaker 3>But so they're lucky.

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<v Speaker 7>That's a gas.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, So are you? One minute you sound like a professor.

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<v Speaker 3>In the next minute you're.

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<v Speaker 6>Talking like a beatnik.

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<v Speaker 2>You need a ride?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you're not going by the library by any chance,

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<v Speaker 6>are you? I could with me on the back seat?

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<v Speaker 3>Why not?

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<v Speaker 2>So we hear that, Scott and Nish. He doesn't grasp

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<v Speaker 2>that figure of speech that Ellen says. But then it's

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<v Speaker 2>like he remembers that he's supposed to talk a particular

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<v Speaker 2>way and starts to use slang again, and Ellen says

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<v Speaker 2>that he talks like a beatnik.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things that sticks out about this episode

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<v Speaker 2>is the language, the use of words like daddio and cool,

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<v Speaker 2>and in Rod Selling's closing narration on the previous episode,

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<v Speaker 2>he says this, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Now mister Surling Earl Hamnrid Junior brings his typebreter in

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<v Speaker 1>his ferutile mind back into the twilight. So next time

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<v Speaker 1>with a program about visitors on the service. They're beatniks.

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<v Speaker 1>A few ranchy looking characters and motorcycles draw in a

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<v Speaker 1>tone one day, but once you meet them, you won't

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<v Speaker 1>forget them. They're quite different from what they appear.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm no expert on American history, and I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 2>whether the term beatnick could be used in different ways,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like how someone might call another person a punk.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not saying that a punk in the context of

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<v Speaker 2>punk music, but they're saying that they're a troublemaker or

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<v Speaker 2>immature or disruptive. So I don't know whether they're called

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<v Speaker 2>beatnicks in that sense, because to me, the three bikers

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<v Speaker 2>who we see here aren't beatnicks. Beatnicks were a kind

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<v Speaker 2>of social and literary movement that took place in the

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<v Speaker 2>black leather jackets talk, the beatnick talk, the more in

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<v Speaker 2>which is somewhat in line with the Beatnick ethos, he

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<v Speaker 2>to or more associated with the literary and artistic counterculture

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<v Speaker 2>of the nineteen fifties, focusing on poetry, jazz, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, where you been?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey?

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, what's happening later?

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<v Speaker 2>What are you gonna do later?

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<v Speaker 3>I work? You gotta go forth, don't you Well? You're

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<v Speaker 8>What I'm talking about tonight after finish up my ten

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<v Speaker 8>years long we're busy, sounds like we're going to be

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<v Speaker 8>busy until you leave here?

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<v Speaker 2>Where are you going when you leave here?

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<v Speaker 3>Don't you know? Hm? Man, We're just gonna go.

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<v Speaker 9>Just trying to make conversation that means nothing to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, on the weekends, we go out and have a ball.

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<v Speaker 1>And what do you do?

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, do you just ride around or do you

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<v Speaker 9>go on some sort of a picnic or something?

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<v Speaker 3>A picnic?

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<v Speaker 1>Man, you are too square.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm ya.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to straighten you out.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 8>Listen.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't go any one special place.

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<v Speaker 5>You just go a bunch gets together after all week,

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<v Speaker 7>Just the idea is to have a ball.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, if you're gonna stay cool, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Got to whale.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to put something down. You got to make

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<v Speaker 2>Don't you know what I'm talking about?

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<v Speaker 9>What you mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's all I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 9>My father was going to take me on a fishing

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<v Speaker 9>trip to Canada once.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we didn't go crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>And his character in that movie became a cultural corner

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<v Speaker 2>of the nineteen fifties, symbolizing youthful defile and the spirit

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<v Speaker 2>of rebellion. So, while there are some overlapping themes of

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<v Speaker 2>nonconformity and rebellion, and also I guess similar youth speak,

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<v Speaker 2>Johnny Strabler is more accurately described as an outlaw biker

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<v Speaker 2>rather than a beatnick. And I'd argue that our characters

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<v Speaker 2>here in black leather jackets would be too. So while

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's inaccurate to call them beat nicks, is

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<v Speaker 2>that the point is that what el Hamner was getting

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<v Speaker 2>at was he showing us that these aliens are getting

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<v Speaker 2>their countercultures mixed up. They dress like bikers, but they

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<v Speaker 2>talk like beatnicks. Or is it the case that Hamner

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<v Speaker 2>just wasn't up on his countercultures? Well, I think in

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<v Speaker 2>Hamner's favor on that one, would Allen have said, you

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<v Speaker 2>talk like a beatnick if he'd have actually looked like

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<v Speaker 2>a beatnick, she'd have just taken that as red. So

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<v Speaker 2>she does have a bit of a sense of why

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<v Speaker 2>you talking like beating it? You don't look like one.

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess we'll give el Hamner the benefit of

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<v Speaker 2>the doubt on that one. But it's not really drawn

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<v Speaker 2>attention to apart from nah the fact that these aliens

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<v Speaker 2>are getting their kind of cultural milestones mixed up and

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<v Speaker 2>melding together these styles. It kind of comes to nothing

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<v Speaker 2>in the episode, but as Scott and Allen rides away

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<v Speaker 2>on Scott's bike, there's a nice shot where the other

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<v Speaker 2>two members of Scott's gang look out of the window disapprovingly,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we cut to Ellen's parents looking out of

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<v Speaker 2>their window disapprovingly too. So while Scott and Allen head

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<v Speaker 2>to the library, we can't help but notice that Ellen's dad, Stu,

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<v Speaker 2>looks very familiar. And that's because Stu Tillman is played

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<v Speaker 2>by Denver Pyle and he was born in nineteen twenty

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<v Speaker 2>in Colorado. Now, depending on your viewing habits, you might

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<v Speaker 2>recall him mouse for the role where he sported a

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<v Speaker 2>big white beard and dungarees and was the uncle of

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<v Speaker 2>those Duke boys in The Dukes of Hazard. But that

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<v Speaker 2>fame in the eighties really was just a tip of

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<v Speaker 2>the iceberg of a career that spanned two hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>sixty seven credits, making him truly one of the hardest

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<v Speaker 2>working actors of his day. As a young man, having

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<v Speaker 2>grown up on a farm, he worked on everything from

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<v Speaker 2>oil fields to shrimp boats before serving in the Navy

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<v Speaker 2>in World War Two. But following the war he went

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<v Speaker 2>back to manual labor, but also took part in some

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<v Speaker 2>amateur dramatics, and it was here that he was spotted

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<v Speaker 2>by a talent scout, and he made his film debut

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen forty seven in a film called The Guilt

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<v Speaker 2>of Janet Ames, and then the hard work ethic that

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<v Speaker 2>he had as a younger man translated to the screen.

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<v Speaker 2>Often in his early career he would take uncredited sidekick roles,

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<v Speaker 2>but later on his association with John Wayne Will lead

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<v Speaker 2>them to work on several of the Duke's movies like

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<v Speaker 2>The Horse Soldiers, The Man Who Shot Liberty, Balance, and

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<v Speaker 2>The Alamo, and he was often cast as older than

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<v Speaker 2>he was because of his prematurely white hair, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was not old age that beat him in the end.

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<v Speaker 2>Denver passed away in nineteen ninety seven of lung cancer,

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<v Speaker 2>but not before The Dukes of Hazard Reunion movie was

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<v Speaker 2>released that year, and he also received the honor of

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<v Speaker 2>a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, attending the

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<v Speaker 2>ceremony despite his weakness from his illness. So when Ellen

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<v Speaker 2>and Scott drive off into the night on Scott's motorbike,

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<v Speaker 2>we are coming up to halfway through the episode, and

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<v Speaker 2>while the language the bikers use is a bit goofy

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<v Speaker 2>and dated, it's not the only reason why this feels

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<v Speaker 2>a bit different from your usual Twilight Zone. Maybe in

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<v Speaker 2>the fifth season that's a good thing. So let's just

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<v Speaker 2>keep an eye on that for the moment. But when

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<v Speaker 2>Ellen and Scott decide to take a walk to the

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<v Speaker 2>library through the park, this happens pretty.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't it.

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<v Speaker 9>Mm hm?

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<v Speaker 6>You know this is kind of a special place with me.

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<v Speaker 6>I come you sometimes and I just try to figure

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<v Speaker 6>things out, like what, Well, for one thing, did you

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<v Speaker 6>know that you have lived next door to me for

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<v Speaker 6>a week and you've never said hello, Hello?

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<v Speaker 3>My name is Ellen, my name is Scott.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you from?

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, where did you live before you move next door?

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<v Speaker 7>Long way from here?

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<v Speaker 5>Where I doubt you ever even heard of?

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<v Speaker 2>It?

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<v Speaker 8>Could be geography is one of my worst subjects.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you finished school? Yes? Ten years ago?

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<v Speaker 6>Ten years ago?

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<v Speaker 3>You're not that at old.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm older than you'd think.

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<v Speaker 5>My people just don't show their age well by time.

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<v Speaker 9>It's the same way.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, my grandmother lived to be ninety and you

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<v Speaker 6>would have taken when he was sixty until we eh,

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<v Speaker 6>she died.

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<v Speaker 5>I've never seen anything so beautiful now.

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<v Speaker 2>When this episode was given a production number, Martin Graham's

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<v Speaker 2>junior writes that it was originally titled Love Story, And

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<v Speaker 2>you could say that this is where the episode kind

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<v Speaker 2>of screeches to a halt and we get thrown over

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<v Speaker 2>the handlebars. Scott and Allen start to fall for each other,

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<v Speaker 2>and Steve and Fred look on disapprovingly as they man

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<v Speaker 2>a huge computer bank.

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<v Speaker 3>Be at ease. Where is your brother? You no longer

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<v Speaker 3>trust our brother? What has he done?

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<v Speaker 2>Formed an attachment here with one of the people.

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<v Speaker 3>What kind of attachment? I'm not sure yet.

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<v Speaker 2>He's with a young girl in spite of our orders.

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<v Speaker 3>Proceed without him. Good. We've been in touch with all units.

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<v Speaker 4>The second wave has landed successfully and has concealed as planned.

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<v Speaker 4>The landing of a third wave, we will be in

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<v Speaker 4>key position us throughout the country.

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<v Speaker 3>Excellent. The people, are they suspicious? Not a bit?

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<v Speaker 4>They are stupid race, as our research stutus an inferior breed.

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<v Speaker 4>Given the killing, hatred, making war, greed and cruelly to

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<v Speaker 4>one another.

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<v Speaker 3>The universe can well do with that.

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<v Speaker 4>Then you will receive your instructions for the final move

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<v Speaker 4>in a few days.

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<v Speaker 2>So these two aliens Shor did lose trust in their

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<v Speaker 2>brother quickly, and they informed their leader of that. And

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<v Speaker 2>we discovered that this is a plot to take over

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<v Speaker 2>the world, and this is just one of several teams

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<v Speaker 2>who are doing it, so why did they choose the

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<v Speaker 2>names Scott, Steve and Fred Well. In his book Dimensions

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<v Speaker 2>Behind the Twilight Zone, Stuart Staniard speaks to el Hamner

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<v Speaker 2>Junior and asks him black Leather Jacket seems to be

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<v Speaker 2>a precursor to biker films of the mid to late sixties,

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<v Speaker 2>and el Hamner says, oh, yes, they stole that idea

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<v Speaker 2>from me.

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<v Speaker 6>No.

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<v Speaker 2>The only similarity I can find to real life of

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<v Speaker 2>the guys in the Leather Jacket story with the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that there were kids in my neighborhood, my son Scott

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<v Speaker 2>and the Kooch's boy Steve and the next door neighbor

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<v Speaker 2>the hobblets on Fred all had mini bikes and they

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<v Speaker 2>used to terrorize the neighborhood with their mini bikes. There

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<v Speaker 2>was an English lady, Pamela Goldstein who lived next door,

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<v Speaker 2>who would get hoses out and throw water at them

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<v Speaker 2>and shout be gone. As a matter of fact, I

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<v Speaker 2>even call those characters Freddie, Scott and Steve. And I

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<v Speaker 2>understand a lot of people who felt that episode was

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<v Speaker 2>rather faultily constructed with a lot of holes in it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I still had the fun of naming the characters

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<v Speaker 2>after my son and his friends. I don't think they

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<v Speaker 2>were especially pleased about it. Now, in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>this episode, there is a space for a commercial break,

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<v Speaker 2>and prior to the break, we see the two brothers

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<v Speaker 2>speaking to their leader on the bank of s Greens

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<v Speaker 2>at their house. And then after the break we see

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<v Speaker 2>them there again, but this time five days have passed

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll learn that Scott has been seeing Ellen for

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<v Speaker 2>those five days and this has caused the alien commander

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<v Speaker 2>to lose trust in them too, and the other two

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<v Speaker 2>are to continue with the plan themselves. Now, the alien

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<v Speaker 2>leader is depicted as just a huge eye on the screen,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a bit of a strange choice considering the

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<v Speaker 2>aliens themselves seem to take on human form, So if

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<v Speaker 2>he's just taken on human form, why doesn't he just

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<v Speaker 2>sit in front of the screen. But this wasn't how

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<v Speaker 2>he was described in the original script. In the original

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<v Speaker 2>script it said, over the heads of the three men,

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<v Speaker 2>we see a screen where a being of some kind

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<v Speaker 2>is visible. It is ahead a metallic mask with slits

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<v Speaker 2>for eyes, nose, and lips. Now, central to this story

430
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<v Speaker 2>is the love affair between Scott and Ellen, which sabotages

431
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<v Speaker 2>Scott's ability to take part in the alien invasion plot,

432
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<v Speaker 2>and possibly sabotage is the episode itself. So with about

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<v Speaker 2>ten minutes left, we are treated to a scene between

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<v Speaker 2>Ellen and Scott with the dialogue is so clunky that

435
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<v Speaker 2>it feels like George Lucas might have used it as

436
00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:27.359
<v Speaker 2>inspiration for the Infamous I don't like sand scene between

437
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<v Speaker 2>Padme and Anakin in Attack of the Clones.

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<v Speaker 3>You like me, don't you?

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00:25:33.559 --> 00:25:33.759
<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>You know that, Scott very much?

441
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, very much.

442
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<v Speaker 3>Do you know the word love?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, silly? What an odd question?

445
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<v Speaker 5>What's odd about it?

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<v Speaker 7>Don't you read your newspapers, your magazines, listen to your

447
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<v Speaker 7>television programs, your radio?

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<v Speaker 2>We have we, Scott?

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<v Speaker 6>Who is we?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, that doesn't matter. It is filled with hate, Ellen, hate, violence, mistrust.

451
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<v Speaker 7>I don't see how anyone as nice as you have

452
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<v Speaker 7>survived this long.

453
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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm certainly no different from anybody else.

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<v Speaker 5>I haven't seen a single report on anyone.

455
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<v Speaker 1>Like you report, Scott.

456
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<v Speaker 4>You're talking riddles.

457
00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:20.720
<v Speaker 6>Sometimes you make me feel like an insect under a microscope.

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<v Speaker 2>Please, I'd like to go home.

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<v Speaker 1>Got it?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm very sorry, but I feel as though you have

461
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<v Speaker 6>been lying to me. I don't know why or what

462
00:26:31.359 --> 00:26:34.039
<v Speaker 6>it is you're trying to hide, but I know you're

463
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<v Speaker 6>not what you're seeing.

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<v Speaker 5>What if I'm not?

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<v Speaker 7>Do you think you're in any position to judge me?

466
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<v Speaker 5>Any of you?

467
00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:41.359
<v Speaker 3>Please?

468
00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:42.400
<v Speaker 2>I would like to go home.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry, Ellen, It's my fault.

470
00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:53.559
<v Speaker 3>I expected too much. Now.

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00:26:53.559 --> 00:26:55.960
<v Speaker 2>I know Scott is an alien and his use of

472
00:26:56.000 --> 00:26:59.359
<v Speaker 2>the language can be off sometimes, but I still find

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<v Speaker 2>the dialogue here and in several other scenes to be

474
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<v Speaker 2>pretty bad. But while Scott and Allen talk about whatever

475
00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:11.319
<v Speaker 2>that was, let's meet the woman who played Ellen. Shelley

476
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<v Speaker 2>Fabrerez plays Ellen, and she was born in nineteen forty

477
00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:18.480
<v Speaker 2>four in Santa Monica, California, and her aunt was a

478
00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:22.880
<v Speaker 2>singer and comedian called Nanette Fabri who was successful in

479
00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:26.119
<v Speaker 2>the business in several shows of the fifties and sixties,

480
00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:30.640
<v Speaker 2>and she appeared in things like Playhouse ninety. But her

481
00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:34.240
<v Speaker 2>renditions of songs can also be heard on several soundtracks,

482
00:27:34.839 --> 00:27:38.759
<v Speaker 2>most recently a version of that entertainment in the movie

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<v Speaker 2>Joker Folio dur So. Shelley started early in the business,

484
00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:46.160
<v Speaker 2>tap dancing at the age of three, modeling in school

485
00:27:46.440 --> 00:27:49.599
<v Speaker 2>and at the age of eleven, appearing on television in

486
00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:54.240
<v Speaker 2>shows like Mattine Theater and Captain Midnight, but it was

487
00:27:54.319 --> 00:27:58.799
<v Speaker 2>their teenage years that really cemented her star status, becoming

488
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<v Speaker 2>a teen idol in film like Rock Pretty Baby, where

489
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<v Speaker 2>she played Twinkie daily and again in its sequel Summer

490
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<v Speaker 2>Love in nineteen fifty eight. So by the time she

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<v Speaker 2>hits the Twilight Zone in nineteen sixty four, she'd have

492
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<v Speaker 2>been about nineteen or twenty years old, and thankfully she

493
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<v Speaker 2>was able to make that transition from teen star to

494
00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:22.559
<v Speaker 2>adult star when a lot of other teen idols of

495
00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:27.359
<v Speaker 2>hair generation fizzled out. And after the Twilight Zone, she

496
00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:31.160
<v Speaker 2>had parts in the Elvis movies Girl Happy, spin Out,

497
00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:35.759
<v Speaker 2>and clam Bake, and then transitioned mainly into television going Forward,

498
00:28:36.359 --> 00:28:38.880
<v Speaker 2>where she worked all the way up to two thousand

499
00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:42.680
<v Speaker 2>and six, and one of her lastree caring roles was

500
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<v Speaker 2>as Mark Kent in Superman the animated series. So what

501
00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:49.839
<v Speaker 2>we find out is that the aliens have a plot

502
00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:53.640
<v Speaker 2>to put bacteria in a reservoir that will wipe out

503
00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:56.559
<v Speaker 2>all the people in the area, and we learn this

504
00:28:56.759 --> 00:28:59.599
<v Speaker 2>when the alien leader is speaking with Steve and Fred,

505
00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:04.319
<v Speaker 2>but Scott overhears, and when they notice him, he runs

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00:29:04.359 --> 00:29:07.839
<v Speaker 2>away to Ellen's house. And the way it kind of

507
00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:11.279
<v Speaker 2>plays is that Scott is shocked by this, But what

508
00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:14.279
<v Speaker 2>exactly did he think they were there to do? He

509
00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:17.000
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have come to Earth for nothing, And as we

510
00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:19.640
<v Speaker 2>hear in a moment, he knows every other aspect of

511
00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:22.519
<v Speaker 2>the plan. If he's not into it, he's had a

512
00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:25.359
<v Speaker 2>whole week of dating Allen to do something about it.

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<v Speaker 5>We came from out there, Ellen, from beyond those stars,

514
00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:30.119
<v Speaker 5>the thousands.

515
00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:31.079
<v Speaker 2>Of us on this planet right now.

516
00:29:31.960 --> 00:29:34.720
<v Speaker 5>Our people need space. We've come here to set up colonies.

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<v Speaker 6>Scott, you can't be serious.

518
00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:40.000
<v Speaker 5>We have had bacteria units in every country on this

519
00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:43.359
<v Speaker 5>planet for months. Each unit has enough germs to poison

520
00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:45.680
<v Speaker 5>the drinking supply of the entire world population.

521
00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:48.759
<v Speaker 6>I will walk with you over to your friend's house.

522
00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:50.599
<v Speaker 1>You had better wake them and let them call you

523
00:29:50.720 --> 00:29:51.279
<v Speaker 1>a doctor.

524
00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:53.359
<v Speaker 2>Now you've got to listeners.

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00:29:53.519 --> 00:30:02.640
<v Speaker 6>Good please, I love you, but you're not wildn.

526
00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:02.759
<v Speaker 5>Now.

527
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:05.839
<v Speaker 2>I often say that I don't need Twilight Own episodes

528
00:30:05.880 --> 00:30:08.440
<v Speaker 2>to join every dot for me. I see them as

529
00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:11.480
<v Speaker 2>fables and will accept a lot as long as everything

530
00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:15.759
<v Speaker 2>generally hangs together and the message is delivered intact, but

531
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<v Speaker 2>what exactly is the message here?

532
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:18.960
<v Speaker 3>Now?

533
00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:22.799
<v Speaker 2>Granted, not everything needs to have a message. Sometimes something

534
00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:24.759
<v Speaker 2>can just be a story for the sake of it,

535
00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:28.119
<v Speaker 2>and that's fine, but the episode does seem to be

536
00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:31.920
<v Speaker 2>reaching for something. You know, a love story about an

537
00:30:31.960 --> 00:30:35.160
<v Speaker 2>alien who is part of an invasion force changing his

538
00:30:35.319 --> 00:30:38.759
<v Speaker 2>mind because he falls in love and learns what love is.

539
00:30:39.400 --> 00:30:42.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, there's a story in that. But this is

540
00:30:42.599 --> 00:30:45.599
<v Speaker 2>just so undercooked. It would have made a lot more

541
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:48.720
<v Speaker 2>sense if Scott was falling for Ellen, and the more

542
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:51.799
<v Speaker 2>he fell for her, the more he began to reflect

543
00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:54.559
<v Speaker 2>on why they were there and why he didn't want

544
00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:57.720
<v Speaker 2>to be part of her anymore. But this just plays

545
00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:01.039
<v Speaker 2>like he forgot about it and it doesn't really make

546
00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:05.119
<v Speaker 2>any sense. So things come to a head, and while

547
00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:09.039
<v Speaker 2>Scott continues to try and do the right thing, unfortunately

548
00:31:09.079 --> 00:31:12.519
<v Speaker 2>things are more advanced than we thought, and when Ellen's

549
00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:16.079
<v Speaker 2>family try to report it to the deputy Sheriff, it

550
00:31:16.160 --> 00:31:18.920
<v Speaker 2>turns out that the deputy sheriff is one of them

551
00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:22.839
<v Speaker 2>two and the ever ready men in white coats come

552
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:26.359
<v Speaker 2>to take Scott away. In the Twilight Zone, companion Mark

553
00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:31.559
<v Speaker 2>Zickri says the episode is filled with wild implosibilities, such

554
00:31:31.559 --> 00:31:34.480
<v Speaker 2>as the fact that these creatures attempting to blend into

555
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:37.519
<v Speaker 2>the background as much as possible so that they can

556
00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:42.440
<v Speaker 2>surreptitiously poison the water supply. Assume disguise is guaranteed to

557
00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:46.400
<v Speaker 2>attract the eye of every nervous suburbanite. Then there's the

558
00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:48.559
<v Speaker 2>matter of one of them falling in love with a

559
00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:53.480
<v Speaker 2>pretty little Native girl. Although he has telekinetic powers, the

560
00:31:53.559 --> 00:31:56.400
<v Speaker 2>smith and alien makes no effect to prove his claim

561
00:31:56.440 --> 00:32:00.759
<v Speaker 2>that he's from outer space by demonstrating his otherworldly abilities,

562
00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:04.720
<v Speaker 2>So not un much to disagree with Dare. And then

563
00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:07.480
<v Speaker 2>there are the reviews from critics of the day that

564
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Martin Graham's junior quotes in Unlocking the Door to a

565
00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:15.640
<v Speaker 2>television Classic, and he writes that Edwin Matteski, a television columnist,

566
00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:18.880
<v Speaker 2>gave a rundown of the shows that had been presented

567
00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:22.640
<v Speaker 2>on the program for the past few weeks, including Probe seven,

568
00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:26.079
<v Speaker 2>Over and Out, Number twelve, Looks Just Like You, and

569
00:32:26.160 --> 00:32:29.680
<v Speaker 2>The Long Morrow, and he said that they were underdone,

570
00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:34.240
<v Speaker 2>sometimes mediocre type of science fiction from the level of

571
00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:38.920
<v Speaker 2>great science fiction ala Ray Brabery or Isaac Asimov or

572
00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:42.599
<v Speaker 2>Our Long sailing the Twilight Soon has tumbled, for the

573
00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:48.720
<v Speaker 2>most part, into the bleak pedestrian world of pulp science fiction. Now,

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00:32:48.759 --> 00:32:50.839
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't necessarily agree with him with some of the

575
00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:54.359
<v Speaker 2>other episodes that he quoted, but I probably would with

576
00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:58.799
<v Speaker 2>this one. And another newspaper columnist said that this was

577
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:02.480
<v Speaker 2>more an outer limit episode than anything else, and I

578
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:06.640
<v Speaker 2>would probably agree with that too. Throughout the history of

579
00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:09.400
<v Speaker 2>the Twilight Zone podcast, I've made it a point to

580
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:14.480
<v Speaker 2>set aside preconceived notions and give each episode a fair chance,

581
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:19.079
<v Speaker 2>regardless of its reputation. But it's hard to ignore the

582
00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:23.519
<v Speaker 2>shadow that black Leather Jackets casts. So where do we begin?

583
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<v Speaker 2>Does it disave its infamy as one of the worst

584
00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:31.720
<v Speaker 2>Twilight Zone episodes. I've often said that the Twilight Zone

585
00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:34.799
<v Speaker 2>is a product of its time, but most of the

586
00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:39.599
<v Speaker 2>time it's also timeless. The fashion of the nineteen fifties

587
00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:45.680
<v Speaker 2>and sixties, for example, rarely feels outdated. Fashions evolve, but

588
00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:49.079
<v Speaker 2>there's something enduring about a well tailored suit on a man,

589
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:51.599
<v Speaker 2>or the kind of attire that the women of the

590
00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:56.519
<v Speaker 2>Twilight Zone wear. These styles not only remain appealing today,

591
00:33:56.960 --> 00:34:00.640
<v Speaker 2>but they also harken back to the earlier decades, as

592
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:04.400
<v Speaker 2>men's suits had been staples in American fashion since the

593
00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:09.440
<v Speaker 2>early nineteen hundreds. So because of this, the Twilight Zone

594
00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:15.480
<v Speaker 2>feels classic but seldom dated until now. By the time

595
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Black Leather Jackets aired, it had been ten years since

596
00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:22.119
<v Speaker 2>Marlon Brando's rebellious ten in the Wild one where he

597
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:26.000
<v Speaker 2>rode a motorcycle in jeans and a leather jacket, So

598
00:34:26.159 --> 00:34:29.440
<v Speaker 2>by now this look wasn't new by any means, but

599
00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:32.480
<v Speaker 2>it was still fresh in the world of the Twilight Zone,

600
00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:37.599
<v Speaker 2>where protagonists were typically clad in those timeless formal styles.

601
00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:42.599
<v Speaker 2>So in that context, the ganging leather jacket does feel

602
00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:47.559
<v Speaker 2>like a disruption. So there is something potentially intriguing here,

603
00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:52.920
<v Speaker 2>the idea of our classic Twilight Zone world being invaded

604
00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:58.000
<v Speaker 2>by this anarchic new generation the bikers, and for these

605
00:34:58.119 --> 00:35:01.639
<v Speaker 2>rebellious figures to turn out to be actual invaders from

606
00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:05.800
<v Speaker 2>another world. So that parallel does seem very much in

607
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:10.760
<v Speaker 2>line with the show's sensibilities. So what went wrong? I

608
00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:14.360
<v Speaker 2>do think part of it is the language. The beatnick

609
00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:18.679
<v Speaker 2>slang feels painfully dated now, so while tailored suit and

610
00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:22.400
<v Speaker 2>leather jackets might have a timeless appeal, this mode of

611
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:26.960
<v Speaker 2>talking with its daddios and far out sounds ridiculous to

612
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:30.719
<v Speaker 2>modern ears. And whether they are beat Nicks or whether

613
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:35.599
<v Speaker 2>they are bikers, this ethos of rejecting traditional American values,

614
00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:40.000
<v Speaker 2>a theme that is rich with potential, is barely explored

615
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:44.159
<v Speaker 2>in any meaningful way. At the time this episode aired,

616
00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Earl Hamner Junior was forty years old, But more significant

617
00:35:48.880 --> 00:35:52.159
<v Speaker 2>than his age was the fact that he wasn't really

618
00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:55.599
<v Speaker 2>part of the counterculture. Now, I know you don't need

619
00:35:55.639 --> 00:35:58.440
<v Speaker 2>to be part of a thing to write about a thing,

620
00:35:59.119 --> 00:36:01.559
<v Speaker 2>but when you read the works of true beat Nicks,

621
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:06.119
<v Speaker 2>you realize just how difficult it is to capture that spirit.

622
00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:10.599
<v Speaker 2>It's not something you can fake. The language and philosophy

623
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:14.119
<v Speaker 2>of the Beat generation comes from a deeply rooted rebellion

624
00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:18.280
<v Speaker 2>against convention, and if you're not part of that movement,

625
00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:23.360
<v Speaker 2>it's hard to authentically replicate their voice. Dropping a few

626
00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:29.559
<v Speaker 2>catchphrases like daddio without fully understanding the subculture just feels hollow.

627
00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:33.480
<v Speaker 2>But as we said earlier, maybe that's the point that

628
00:36:33.559 --> 00:36:36.760
<v Speaker 2>the aliens are faking it, and that they are just

629
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<v Speaker 2>a mishmash of different cultures, not understanding any of them.

630
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<v Speaker 2>But If that's the case, it seems that so little

631
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<v Speaker 2>is done with that there's no payoff to the whole thing. Now,

632
00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:51.360
<v Speaker 2>to be fair, this poor use of the language. El

633
00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:55.519
<v Speaker 2>Hamner wasn't alone in struggling with that. Even Rod Sailing

634
00:36:55.639 --> 00:36:58.960
<v Speaker 2>stumbled when trying to write for youth culture in his

635
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<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixty nine show The New People.

636
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<v Speaker 3>Now.

637
00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:05.679
<v Speaker 2>It didn't feature beating it specifically, but it did involve

638
00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:09.320
<v Speaker 2>a group of young people stranded on an island, and

639
00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:12.559
<v Speaker 2>the attempt to catch a youth speak was just as

640
00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:13.880
<v Speaker 2>cringe inducing as this.

641
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<v Speaker 10>I'm not going to take too much of your time,

642
00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:26.440
<v Speaker 10>Sunny Share Center mission time. Well, now you've got the

643
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:29.320
<v Speaker 10>authority to stop this tour handah chet, I've got the

644
00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:32.400
<v Speaker 10>authority to confiscate that guitar and then feed it to

645
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:33.079
<v Speaker 10>your strings.

646
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<v Speaker 3>First. Wow, there's a serious cat.

647
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<v Speaker 10>Man, all right, by young Grahams. I'm going to give

648
00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:41.440
<v Speaker 10>you the bottom line.

649
00:37:41.639 --> 00:37:45.159
<v Speaker 2>But perhaps the biggest flow in Black Leather Jacket is

650
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:48.519
<v Speaker 2>that it just doesn't feel like a Twilight Zone. The

651
00:37:48.559 --> 00:37:52.159
<v Speaker 2>show is proven, it can take many forms, and even

652
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:55.840
<v Speaker 2>in the lesser episodes, it is often a distinctive quality

653
00:37:56.400 --> 00:38:01.920
<v Speaker 2>that still makes it unmistakably twilight Zone. Here, however, the

654
00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:05.519
<v Speaker 2>core of the story is a shallow love plot that

655
00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:11.159
<v Speaker 2>ultimately says nothing significant. Yet this episode held the potential

656
00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:17.280
<v Speaker 2>to comment on much deeper themes, counterculture, rebellion, the friction

657
00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:22.440
<v Speaker 2>between generations. The nineteen sixties were a period when the polished,

658
00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:27.960
<v Speaker 2>idealized image of nineteen fifties domesticity began to crack. A

659
00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:32.599
<v Speaker 2>shift was underway from the rigid expectations of the past

660
00:38:33.199 --> 00:38:38.400
<v Speaker 2>to a more complex, turbulent future defined by civil rights,

661
00:38:38.599 --> 00:38:44.280
<v Speaker 2>youth culture, and a rejection of conformity in black leather jackets.

662
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:48.079
<v Speaker 2>There was an opportunity to explore the changing tides of

663
00:38:48.119 --> 00:38:53.280
<v Speaker 2>an era, the angst and uphevial simmering beneath the surface,

664
00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:58.679
<v Speaker 2>with the advancement of youth represented by an alien invasion.

665
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:03.960
<v Speaker 2>But instead the episode just feels devoid of any substance.

666
00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:08.519
<v Speaker 2>And maybe that's okay if on the surface it's still entertaining,

667
00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:13.119
<v Speaker 2>But I think it'll also fall short of even providing

668
00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:15.119
<v Speaker 2>that surface level entertainment.

669
00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Portrait of an American family and the eve of invasion

670
00:39:19.039 --> 00:39:22.400
<v Speaker 1>from outer space. Of course, we know it's merely fiction,

671
00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:25.559
<v Speaker 1>and yet think twice when you drink your next class

672
00:39:25.559 --> 00:39:28.639
<v Speaker 1>of water. Find out that it's from your local reservoir,

673
00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:32.360
<v Speaker 1>or possibly it came direct to you from the Twilight.

674
00:39:32.039 --> 00:39:36.400
<v Speaker 2>On Okay, black leather jackets, that was one that a

675
00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:39.960
<v Speaker 2>lot of people mentioned to me as being one that

676
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:42.920
<v Speaker 2>they were kind of looking forward to be being covered.

677
00:39:43.360 --> 00:39:47.960
<v Speaker 2>But maybe not for necessarily the right reasons.

678
00:39:47.960 --> 00:39:48.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

679
00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:51.639
<v Speaker 2>So let's go over to our friends in the after

680
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:55.079
<v Speaker 2>hours club to see what they thought of it. Now,

681
00:39:55.119 --> 00:39:57.119
<v Speaker 2>over there, I put a vote up to see whether

682
00:39:57.159 --> 00:40:00.000
<v Speaker 2>people think it's top tier, middle tier or bottom tier

683
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:04.480
<v Speaker 2>twilight Zone, and the vote well, like this top tier

684
00:40:04.599 --> 00:40:07.360
<v Speaker 2>two percent. Now, that would have been one person, and

685
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:09.920
<v Speaker 2>I think he fessed up to it that it was

686
00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:13.559
<v Speaker 2>Chad Boykin, our friend, the writer of the Twilight Zone

687
00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:16.840
<v Speaker 2>hi Q, and he'd been at the Golden Daylight that night,

688
00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:20.559
<v Speaker 2>so he he did a bit of a drunken vote

689
00:40:20.559 --> 00:40:24.239
<v Speaker 2>on that one. Now we have twelve percent say it's

690
00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:29.400
<v Speaker 2>middle tier, okay, and then bottom tier are whopping eighty

691
00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:34.039
<v Speaker 2>six percent. Have we had a bottom tier that high?

692
00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:38.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm not too sure, but it's a high one for sure.

693
00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:43.400
<v Speaker 2>So let's hear what people have to say about it. Okay,

694
00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:45.760
<v Speaker 2>We've had a lot of comments, so I'll just try

695
00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:50.440
<v Speaker 2>and zip through them. So thank you everyone for your comments. Unfortunately,

696
00:40:50.440 --> 00:40:54.519
<v Speaker 2>with this many won't be able to really personalize any responses,

697
00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:55.559
<v Speaker 2>but we'll just zip through.

698
00:40:55.920 --> 00:40:56.039
<v Speaker 3>So.

699
00:40:56.079 --> 00:40:59.079
<v Speaker 2>Our friend Liam Young says, I rewatched. I rewatched this

700
00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:02.119
<v Speaker 2>having memories of being terrible. I have to say that

701
00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:04.960
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't as bad as I remembered, and I actually

702
00:41:05.079 --> 00:41:09.119
<v Speaker 2>quite enjoyed. It shows what managing expectations can do for

703
00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:12.239
<v Speaker 2>your perception of something. Had a touch or valley of

704
00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:15.360
<v Speaker 2>the shadow about it, but done for a teen audience.

705
00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:19.159
<v Speaker 2>Our friend Joshua Haired says, really more of an outer

706
00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:22.519
<v Speaker 2>limit episode that Ale couldn't sell right, and this is

707
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:26.440
<v Speaker 2>an Earl Hamner junior script good Night Ale. Our friend

708
00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:30.280
<v Speaker 2>Jason Schwartz says it's bad, like really bad, daddy O.

709
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:33.119
<v Speaker 2>But I kind of enjoy it because it's so bad,

710
00:41:33.679 --> 00:41:37.840
<v Speaker 2>like watching Mystery Science Theater three thousand. It's still low tea,

711
00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:40.719
<v Speaker 2>but I like it. It's like when you eat something

712
00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:43.360
<v Speaker 2>terrible and immediately turn to the person next to you

713
00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:46.599
<v Speaker 2>and say, hey, try this well, not sit next to

714
00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:51.480
<v Speaker 2>you again. Jason, okay. So, Our old friend Al Shadsman says, oh,

715
00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:54.760
<v Speaker 2>it's awful. Dreadful, horrible, and it seemed to be on

716
00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:57.440
<v Speaker 2>every other time that I turned on a TZ rerun

717
00:41:57.480 --> 00:41:59.800
<v Speaker 2>when I was a kid. But I've seen it enough

718
00:41:59.840 --> 00:42:02.880
<v Speaker 2>time times now that it's sort of grown on me. Well, Al,

719
00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:04.719
<v Speaker 2>you are a fan of the Bard, so you know

720
00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:10.000
<v Speaker 2>everything's fair game. Airing early two months after the Kennedy assassination,

721
00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:13.480
<v Speaker 2>you could think of it as a classic Cold War commentary,

722
00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:17.760
<v Speaker 2>but the elements in employees were already dated. Brando's The

723
00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Wild One was ten years before, and fifties SF films

724
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:24.639
<v Speaker 2>were already gutted with the they came from out of

725
00:42:24.679 --> 00:42:28.400
<v Speaker 2>space to conquerors motifs. The whole thing plays like a

726
00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:33.199
<v Speaker 2>ridiculous parody, a mad magazine pastiche. On that level, it

727
00:42:33.280 --> 00:42:36.639
<v Speaker 2>works brilliantly. It is a parody, isn't it.

728
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:37.639
<v Speaker 9>Thank you?

729
00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:37.920
<v Speaker 3>Al.

730
00:42:38.639 --> 00:42:41.480
<v Speaker 2>Our friend Whitney Beeler says, I really dig the way

731
00:42:41.480 --> 00:42:45.719
<v Speaker 2>the bikers sequentially park and dismount their bikes. Man, listen, Dad, Yo.

732
00:42:46.119 --> 00:42:48.920
<v Speaker 2>As a TZ fan, I think I'm supposed to dislike

733
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:53.480
<v Speaker 2>this story. Honestly, I can't totally dismiss it. It's enjoyable

734
00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:56.960
<v Speaker 2>and at the very least is never dull. The impending

735
00:42:57.039 --> 00:42:59.760
<v Speaker 2>doom that's coming to the planet is not a pleasant thought,

736
00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:03.440
<v Speaker 2>especially knowing that the bikers aliens will soon poison the

737
00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:06.400
<v Speaker 2>water supply, never mind that the alien seems to have

738
00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:09.639
<v Speaker 2>forgotten about a substantial number of humans with well water.

739
00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:13.679
<v Speaker 2>The episode reminds me of an earlier version of The Invaders,

740
00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:18.719
<v Speaker 2>Quinn Martin's TV series, especially the deputy that intervenes in

741
00:43:18.760 --> 00:43:22.800
<v Speaker 2>the relationship between Scott and Allen. Ultimately, this is somehow

742
00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:25.639
<v Speaker 2>silly and grim at the same time, and that's part

743
00:43:25.679 --> 00:43:29.079
<v Speaker 2>of its appeal. Still at my bottom tier, but seems

744
00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:32.159
<v Speaker 2>to be creeping up my list. Thank you, Whitney. Our

745
00:43:32.199 --> 00:43:35.400
<v Speaker 2>friend Steve Badger says, Shelley Fabres looked great in this.

746
00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:38.800
<v Speaker 2>She was in three Alvis movies in the mid sixties. Anyway,

747
00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:42.039
<v Speaker 2>what was the question? Oh, yeah, bottom tier. I'm afraid

748
00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:45.119
<v Speaker 2>despite Shelley Fabres being in it, did I mention she

749
00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:49.639
<v Speaker 2>looks great? Thank you, Steve. Am If anyone was going

750
00:43:49.719 --> 00:43:52.039
<v Speaker 2>to mention the Alvis connection, I knew it would be you.

751
00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:52.639
<v Speaker 3>Now.

752
00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:55.440
<v Speaker 2>I actually have met Steve a couple of times and

753
00:43:55.480 --> 00:43:58.880
<v Speaker 2>he has like the best Elvas shrine going in his house.

754
00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:03.760
<v Speaker 2>Our friend Michael Clark says, a bit of an unintended comedy.

755
00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:04.119
<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

756
00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Michael cerebral P says, I like this one, but probably

757
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:10.880
<v Speaker 2>better suited for an hour long episode. It would have

758
00:44:10.920 --> 00:44:14.639
<v Speaker 2>been great to see a spaceship landing or some bedlam enchewing.

759
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:18.159
<v Speaker 2>It's difficult to imagine the scale of the invasion force,

760
00:44:18.679 --> 00:44:21.480
<v Speaker 2>though I'm sure a select group of paranoid individuals in

761
00:44:21.519 --> 00:44:25.440
<v Speaker 2>the sixties were wary of Beatnicks on bikes. It's the

762
00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:28.559
<v Speaker 2>cheese baked on top of the bottom tier, a healthy

763
00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:34.199
<v Speaker 2>saving of hammer O Greton, Thank you, cerebral P. Brian

764
00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:39.400
<v Speaker 2>Griffin says black leather pajamas, pantalons, el fuego. But since

765
00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:44.320
<v Speaker 2>this was jackets, no mass, Thank you, Brian. Okay, Chad

766
00:44:44.360 --> 00:44:48.639
<v Speaker 2>boych and here he is the drunken polster, he says,

767
00:44:48.719 --> 00:44:50.719
<v Speaker 2>top tier all the way, but I've had too many

768
00:44:50.760 --> 00:44:53.559
<v Speaker 2>golden delights. I may regret this in the morning. Well,

769
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:56.280
<v Speaker 2>I hope you took a long look at yourself in

770
00:44:56.320 --> 00:45:00.679
<v Speaker 2>the morning, Chad. Michael Fahnbach says bottom tier. But it's

771
00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:03.559
<v Speaker 2>almost like a condensed version of those cheesy science fiction

772
00:45:03.679 --> 00:45:07.840
<v Speaker 2>alien movies from the fifties. That mystery signs theater three

773
00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:11.440
<v Speaker 2>thousand like to tackle. So while it's bottom tier, it's

774
00:45:11.480 --> 00:45:16.079
<v Speaker 2>not without some entertainment value. Thank you, Michael. Our friend

775
00:45:16.119 --> 00:45:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Professor John says, despite the fact that Black Leather Jackets

776
00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:23.440
<v Speaker 2>features Michael Forrest, who masterfully played the Gord Apollo in

777
00:45:23.480 --> 00:45:26.559
<v Speaker 2>the original Star Trek, this episode is a bit silly

778
00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:27.639
<v Speaker 2>and poorly executed.

779
00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:29.079
<v Speaker 3>I agree.

780
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:33.039
<v Speaker 2>Our friend Andrew Snyder says, I consider this by far

781
00:45:33.119 --> 00:45:36.719
<v Speaker 2>the waste episode of the entire series. It's as if

782
00:45:36.719 --> 00:45:39.360
<v Speaker 2>Hamner were trying to do The Wild One as a

783
00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:43.760
<v Speaker 2>Twilight Zone episode. A failure on every level. It actually

784
00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:46.920
<v Speaker 2>hits to watch this because I can easily imagine the

785
00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:50.760
<v Speaker 2>network executives doing so and deciding it was time to

786
00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:56.039
<v Speaker 2>cancel the series. Our friend Ben Carkem says terrible. Sorry, Well,

787
00:45:56.159 --> 00:45:59.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry too, Ben. Our friend Michael Lynn says, just

788
00:45:59.239 --> 00:46:02.920
<v Speaker 2>a bad story episode, not much to add to earlier comments.

789
00:46:03.320 --> 00:46:06.239
<v Speaker 2>Considered a low point. Tough to imagine that Hamner also

790
00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:10.400
<v Speaker 2>wrote The Hunt, which was an excellent episode. Issue may

791
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:13.440
<v Speaker 2>have been that Hamner's strength was folksy, perhaps even old

792
00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:17.840
<v Speaker 2>fashioned tales versus contemporary sci fi fantasy. Our friend John

793
00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:21.559
<v Speaker 2>Hayes says, very bad, very very bad, bad writing. Bad acting,

794
00:46:21.840 --> 00:46:25.199
<v Speaker 2>nothing redeeming about it. Thank you, John. Our old friend

795
00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Uncommon Nasa says, I wanted to like this episode a

796
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:30.360
<v Speaker 2>law for a while. I pushed it to mid tier

797
00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:34.159
<v Speaker 2>just on its concept alone, but after watching several times,

798
00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:37.039
<v Speaker 2>its slow pace and dry acting from the main biker

799
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:40.519
<v Speaker 2>make it lower tier. It's a shame that Hammner is

800
00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:43.639
<v Speaker 2>known for this episode, sometimes more than the classic The Hunt.

801
00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:46.639
<v Speaker 2>There is a good episode buried in here, but not

802
00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:50.400
<v Speaker 2>many of uncovered it yet, and I haven't either. Our

803
00:46:50.440 --> 00:46:53.400
<v Speaker 2>friend Joe Brown says, this episode is just not good.

804
00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:56.280
<v Speaker 2>Aliens using the trope to blend in with Earthlings in

805
00:46:56.880 --> 00:47:00.159
<v Speaker 2>order to facilitate a takeover, and they won't even no

806
00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:03.280
<v Speaker 2>it's coming is poorly done. I look at this as

807
00:47:03.320 --> 00:47:06.360
<v Speaker 2>a Trojan Horse story that turns into west Side story

808
00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:10.400
<v Speaker 2>or the wild Ones. Tough kids aliens bent on destruction

809
00:47:11.000 --> 00:47:13.519
<v Speaker 2>while one of them gets sidetracked by a love interest,

810
00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:18.239
<v Speaker 2>causing the infiltrators aliens to leave them behind branded as

811
00:47:18.280 --> 00:47:21.159
<v Speaker 2>a traitor. It's just so bad it reminds me of

812
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:24.199
<v Speaker 2>a B movie. In twenty five minutes. Bottom of the

813
00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:28.079
<v Speaker 2>bottom tier. Thank you, Joe. Our friend Adam Scriven says,

814
00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:30.400
<v Speaker 2>it's close to the very bottom of the series. For me,

815
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:33.440
<v Speaker 2>it's certainly in the bottom ten and possibly the bottom five.

816
00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:36.519
<v Speaker 2>It was written like someone in the twenty twenties was

817
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:40.880
<v Speaker 2>trying the stereotype in nineteen sixties, not like a contemporary

818
00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:46.039
<v Speaker 2>commentary on current culture. Thank you, Adam. We're almost there, man,

819
00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:48.960
<v Speaker 2>This one feels like a marathon. Okay, Jordan Dlock, our

820
00:47:48.960 --> 00:47:51.559
<v Speaker 2>friend says, come on, it's not that bad. It can't

821
00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:53.920
<v Speaker 2>be the human and it doesn't make me cringe like

822
00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:58.079
<v Speaker 2>Cavender is coming. Thank you, Jordan. Our friend Joseph Lesino says,

823
00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:02.280
<v Speaker 2>this episode has to go in the bototier in my ranking. However,

824
00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:06.199
<v Speaker 2>this doesn't prevent the episode from being an interesting, campy episode.

825
00:48:06.679 --> 00:48:09.840
<v Speaker 2>To me, this episode is a window into how counterculture

826
00:48:10.199 --> 00:48:13.400
<v Speaker 2>could and would be shown to a nineteen sixty four audience.

827
00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:16.119
<v Speaker 2>It could also be seen as a spoof sci fi

828
00:48:16.199 --> 00:48:19.199
<v Speaker 2>at the time. All in all, can be fun to

829
00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:24.679
<v Speaker 2>examine and sometimes watch. And our friend Josh Chambers finally says,

830
00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:28.840
<v Speaker 2>oh boy, oh okay, we got through it.

831
00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:29.360
<v Speaker 3>Man.

832
00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:31.239
<v Speaker 2>That was a lot of comments.

833
00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:32.440
<v Speaker 3>Now.

834
00:48:32.480 --> 00:48:35.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I've thanked the new members of the

835
00:48:35.320 --> 00:48:38.239
<v Speaker 2>After Hours Club for a while now. So I'm going

836
00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:41.480
<v Speaker 2>to go back a little bit and I might double

837
00:48:41.559 --> 00:48:43.360
<v Speaker 2>up on these board. I just want to make sure

838
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:46.480
<v Speaker 2>that I thank people because I really do appreciate when

839
00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:51.920
<v Speaker 2>people come aboard. So I want to thank Chris Pulman

840
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:55.039
<v Speaker 2>for joinings. Thank you, Chris, Jay, thank you for coming

841
00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:58.480
<v Speaker 2>on board. James la Grotta, Thank you, James. Appreciate it.

842
00:48:59.039 --> 00:49:02.559
<v Speaker 2>Aaron and Maxwell, thank you both for coming on. I

843
00:49:02.639 --> 00:49:07.079
<v Speaker 2>really appreciate you coming on board. Christopher Sadler, Thank you, Christopher.

844
00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:10.280
<v Speaker 2>Thank you for coming to the After Hours Club. My

845
00:49:10.360 --> 00:49:15.199
<v Speaker 2>old friend Cassie, sailing Fest attendee and longtime friends of

846
00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:19.719
<v Speaker 2>the show. Thank you. Jeffrey kat came on board. Thank you, Jeffrey.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciate it. And finally John Caderet my old friend John Caderett.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember you, John. Don't you worry about that? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Next on the Twilight and Podcast, I was hoping to

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<v Speaker 2>get another episode out before Christmas, because I know we

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<v Speaker 2>had that big summer break because of Sailing Fest. But

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<v Speaker 2>time has just caught up with me as it always

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<v Speaker 2>tends to do. And after this one, we will be

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<v Speaker 2>going into our December Twilight and Podcast Advent calendar, and

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<v Speaker 2>then that will lead up to Christmas Day, when I

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<v Speaker 2>will be presenting a version of my Sailing Fest presentation,

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<v Speaker 2>which is called No Christmas this year. So that's the

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<v Speaker 2>plan for decem But it went down really well last

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<v Speaker 2>time and everyone seemed to make good comments about the

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<v Speaker 2>advent calendar, so I hope you enjoy it this time.

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<v Speaker 2>But don't worry. I will still be working behind the

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<v Speaker 2>scenes so that we can hopefully hit the ground running

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<v Speaker 2>in January with our next episode. But before that, let's

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<v Speaker 2>hear some comments on black leather Jackets.

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<v Speaker 9>Hi, Tom, I'm here to give a rare defense of

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<v Speaker 9>black leather jackets. Ever since I started reading The Twilight

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<v Speaker 9>Own Companion as a kid, I remembered reading how terrible

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<v Speaker 9>this episode was. It was also sort of hard to

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<v Speaker 9>find the episode because when they started releasing them on DVD,

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<v Speaker 9>they were done nonsequentially, so I never saw it on

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<v Speaker 9>DVD until the box sets were released. But when I

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<v Speaker 9>saw it, I could tell it was bad, but it

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<v Speaker 9>wasn't terrible. It was a little bit funny, but the

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<v Speaker 9>brand of humor doesn't seem quite as obvious anymore. It's

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<v Speaker 9>tongue in cheek, it's really self aware, and it's similar

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<v Speaker 9>to any number of alien invasion comic book stories from

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<v Speaker 9>the fifties. The sensibility of the episode actually reminds me

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<v Speaker 9>a whole lot of an episode of Alfared Hitchcock Presents

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<v Speaker 9>It's in the fifth season, called Special Delivery. It's an

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<v Speaker 9>alien invasion story that involves aliens persuading kids to grow

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<v Speaker 9>mushrooms in their basements, and while black leather jackets used

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<v Speaker 9>as a more realistic extermination method, both of them are

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<v Speaker 9>handled with the same kind of ridiculousness, and that's really

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<v Speaker 9>the fun of it. The radio adaptation of the episode

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<v Speaker 9>does a whole lot better at playing up some of

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<v Speaker 9>the campy fifty style lingo and making the aliens behave

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<v Speaker 9>in more dated ways, but the overarching joke of the

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<v Speaker 9>aliens behaving in a dated way hasn't age very well.

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<v Speaker 9>For good reason. It's that most people can't tell the

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<v Speaker 9>difference between popular slang of the fifties and of the

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<v Speaker 9>early sixties. I think at the time this would have

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<v Speaker 9>been a whole lot more obvious and funny. There are

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<v Speaker 9>a few other things that I'd like. The aliens justify

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<v Speaker 9>their invasion by saying that mankind is cruel and violent,

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<v Speaker 9>but then they bully the father needlessly and then brainwash

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<v Speaker 9>him into thinking that they're good people. The aliens also

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<v Speaker 9>seem to restrict their telekinesis to the most trivial things possible,

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<v Speaker 9>like doors and window blinds. The romance element of the

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<v Speaker 9>episode is not meant to be taken seriously. It's a

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<v Speaker 9>step removed from what is this thing you humans call love?

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<v Speaker 9>I don't think there's any message beyond the surface level

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<v Speaker 9>with this episode. It really doesn't have anything special to say,

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<v Speaker 9>insights to offer, or even clever plotting or storytelling, but

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<v Speaker 9>it doesn't offend, and that's something that bumps this episode up.

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<v Speaker 9>In my estimation of the Twiletson episodes make you feel

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<v Speaker 9>a little embarrassed for the project. Cavender is coming and

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<v Speaker 9>mister Beats make me cringe. But you can also imagine

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<v Speaker 9>if this episode were made as an eighties Twilightson episode.

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<v Speaker 9>To my eye, I think it would fit right in,

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<v Speaker 9>and the joke of them behaving in such a dated

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<v Speaker 9>way would be much more outlandish and entertaining. I can't

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<v Speaker 9>defend it as a good Twiletson episode, but I can

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<v Speaker 9>say that it's watchable and for an episode without a message,

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<v Speaker 9>that's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 8>Hey there, Tom Harold Clark reporting in from you to

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<v Speaker 8>Texas talking about black leather jackets. If you look at

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<v Speaker 8>the world today, if you open up your social media

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<v Speaker 8>or turn on your local news feed, perhaps even look

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<v Speaker 8>at your own window, you were going to see that

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<v Speaker 8>this is a planet filled with hate, violence, and mistrust,

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<v Speaker 8>and that we are a world of angry, frightened people.

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<v Speaker 8>But also it is true that they murder and hurt

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<v Speaker 8>one another, and that they're subject to unreasonable hate and prejudice.

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<v Speaker 8>But these are only the brutes you find them in

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<v Speaker 8>any race. Most of these people have the capacity for love.

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<v Speaker 8>They learn love from their God and they teach it

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<v Speaker 8>to their children. There's more of love here than hate.

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<v Speaker 8>All of that came from this episode, so we obviously

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<v Speaker 8>haven't changed very much in sixty two years. It's been

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<v Speaker 8>a long while since I've seen this episode. Fifteen years,

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<v Speaker 8>I guess, and I knew of its reputation as one

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<v Speaker 8>of the worst Twilight Zone episodes. Sure, it plays like

933
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<v Speaker 8>a cliff notes version of a more fleshed out episode,

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<v Speaker 8>and perhaps this would have been a fine example to

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<v Speaker 8>turn into a season four episode in order to flesh

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<v Speaker 8>out some of these some of the story beats, but

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<v Speaker 8>one of the worst. Nah if for no rather reason,

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<v Speaker 8>it shows us that we are a stubborn human race.

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<v Speaker 8>But it also should remind us that there is more

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<v Speaker 8>love than.

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<v Speaker 9>Hate in the world.

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<v Speaker 8>But there are brutes or bad apples in every group

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<v Speaker 8>of people Americans, Europeans, white, Black, Hispanic Asians, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, police, doctors, lawyers, teachers, politicians, celebrities, neighbors,

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<v Speaker 8>family members, and the list goes on and.

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<v Speaker 9>On and on.

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<v Speaker 8>We can't let them drowned out the rest of us.

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<v Speaker 8>Let us not forget we all are all a part

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<v Speaker 8>of one race, the human race, and this episode reminded

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<v Speaker 8>me of that. So Bravo twilight Zone and Earl Hamner Junior.

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<v Speaker 4>Rod Serling, creator of The Twilight Zone. We'll tell you

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<v Speaker 4>about next week's story after this message.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to get your thoughts onto the show,

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<v Speaker 2>then send a clip of about five minutes or less

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<v Speaker 2>to Tom at the twilight Zone podcast dot com about

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<v Speaker 2>the show that we've covered or our next one. And

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<v Speaker 2>let's go over to Rod Sailing to find out what's

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<v Speaker 2>coming up next.

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<v Speaker 1>And now, mister Surling next time out on the Twilight Zone,

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<v Speaker 1>Richard Matheson provides us with a tour de force and

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<v Speaker 1>suspense and the unexpected with a show called Nightcall. It

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<v Speaker 1>stars one of the most eminent actresses of our time,

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<v Speaker 1>Miss Gladys Cooper, and it poses the kind of question

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<v Speaker 1>that arises when a telephone keeps ringing and you realize

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<v Speaker 1>that the caller has.

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<v Speaker 3>Not been on earth for a number of years.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope this intrigues, because I think the show will.

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<v Speaker 1>Next time out. Nightcall fand the Band took the Band

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<v Speaker 1>and
